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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tonight, on Unsolved Mysteries,
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Tim McClure and his
mother were inseparable,
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until Terry McClure
was found shot
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to death in a
casino parking lot,
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and her son became the
number one suspect.
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Tonight, Tim McClure wants to
tell his side of the story.
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In 1973, America was
crippled by the gas shortage.
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Liz Carmichael raised $3
million for her revolutionary,
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three-wheeled car,
which she claimed would
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get 70 miles to the gallon.
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The government claimed fraud,
and Liz has disappeared.
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In Georgia, a feud between
two rival restaurant owners,
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competing for the
same customers,
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ended in a contract killing.
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One of the murderers
is still at large.
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Four mysteries with no endings--
but they can be solved.
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Last November, we presented
the story of the kidnapping
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of a wealthy Mississippi
woman, whose husband was
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told to send $1
million to 12 people
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named in a bizarre ransom note.
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He paid out, but his
wife was not released.
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Tonight, an update on
this extraordinary case.
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Join me-- you may be able
to help solve the mystery.
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[theme music]
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In 1977, TK Harty's saloon was
a popular bar and restaurant,
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catering to the student
crowd of the university
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town of Athens, Georgia.
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The saloon's owner was Ted
K. Harty, nicknamed TK.
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He rented space from a
group of businessman,
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who were converting
an abandoned train
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depot into a complex of
restaurants and trendy shops.
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LEE EPTING: TK Harty
was an obnoxious Yankee
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when you first met him.
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He came on really strong.
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And when he came to town,
it took me a little while
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to get used to him,
so that I would even
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want to have him as a tenant.
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When you got to know TK, he
was just a real teddy bear.
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Just a really nice guy.
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He was enthusiastic about the
complex, and doing it right.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Harty's arch rival was
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a man named John Mooney,
who also leased space
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in the remodeled train
station for his restaurant,
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called Somebody's Pizza.
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Mooney and TK Harty had a
long history of animosity,
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because both their
restaurants were
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going after the same
student clientele.
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LEE EPTING: When John
Mooney came to town,
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he was the preppy,
out of college,
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cool guy, who was full of
vigor and enthusiasm about what
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he was going to do down there,
and how he was going to make
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his millions of dollars.
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And what all he had to offer.
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And that lasted until he got the
lease signed and got the place,
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and then he started--
well, I just need this,
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and I just need that.
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And I can't pay the rent.
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And
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Then John kind of got greedy.
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Hey come see us next door,
nickel beer-- Somebody's Pizza.
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Come to Somebody's
Pizza right next door.
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Good deal on beer.
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LEE EPTING: John started
wanting to infringe
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on everybody else's business.
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His idea was to go
up to TK's, pass out
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flyers on the deck
for nickel beer,
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and draw TK's crowd
down to his place.
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John, what do you
think you're doing here?
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Hey, what does it look like?
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LEE EPTING: That just
went all over TK.
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I mean, he couldn't stand
that that was the last straw.
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I'll tell you what this
is-- this is private property!
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I want you out of
here right now!
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LEE EPTING: John Mooney and
TK Harty despised each other.
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They really had
gotten to the point
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that there was no reconciliation
between the two people.
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ROBERT STACK: The feud between
TK Harty and John Mooney
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started out as a dispute
between restaurateurs
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going after the same customers.
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But after three years,
when the original lease
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on the train station
expired, TK Harty
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took over the entire complex.
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It was then that his
feud with John Mooney
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escalated into a full-scale war.
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The end result was murder.
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When we decided to
not pick up the lease,
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we had to sell the place.
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Ted came up with
the money, and Ted
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bought the station complex--
the shops, everything.
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Which included John
Mooney's place.
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He said he was going
to evict John as
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soon as we signed the papers.
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And he did that on
a Friday afternoon.
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This is your eviction notice.
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Eviction notice?
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This is your eviction
notice-- you are out of here.
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Wait a minute, TK--
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HARRY GORDON: TK Harty had
made mention to several members
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of his family, to his
girlfriend, that he was
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concerned-- not to the
extent that he would harm him
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physically, perhaps-- but
that he was really concerned
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about the attitude of John
Henry Mooney against him,
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concerning the eviction.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
10 days later,
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in the early morning hours of
August the 30th, 1977, TK Harty
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arrived home as
usual, after closing
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up his saloon for the night.
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A man lurked in the shadows
of TK's kitchen, watching him.
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When Harty left to walk into
his study, a man followed him.
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[gun shot]
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TK Harty was shot
one time in the head.
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He died instantly.
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Four hours after
Harty's body was found,
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police picked up John
Mooney for interrogation.
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At first, Mooney was
very cooperative.
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John, do you know why
you are here tonight?
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Well, I guess it's about
the shooting of TK Harty.
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How did you know
about the shooting?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
News of Harty's murder
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had not been released
to anyone, yet Mooney
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seemed to know exactly why
he was being questioned.
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On the shooting,
and how I felt about.
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KENNETH KILGORE: When
John Mooney told me
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that he was aware that
TK Harty had been shot,
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I told him that we had not
released that information,
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and that nobody knew that
except the police department,
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and the people that
were investigating
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this murder-- that
he had been killed,
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or how he had been killed.
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At that time, he
did become nervous.
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He said, I think I need
to talk to my lawyer.
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All righty, thanks.
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Bye
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Hold on just a
second, sit down.
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KENNETH KILGORE: When
he hung up the phone,
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he said, my lawyer said
for me to get up and walk
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out if I wasn't under arrest.
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I'm going to
allow you to leave.
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I want to tell you something
before you go-- you're not
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under arrest right now, but--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Police did not
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have sufficient evidence
to arrest Mooney.
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No other leads surfaced, and
three weeks after the murder,
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the authorities were
still at a dead end.
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On the fourth week, another
local restaurant manager
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who known both TK
Harty and John Mooney
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called the police
with a bizarre story.
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He said he was cleaning
up behind the bar
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one night when an Atlanta
electrician, named Elmo
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Florence, began to drop hints
that he was willing to kill
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people for money.
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You're a what?
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I'm a hit man.
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You don't need to call
into Jersey, if you want
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somebody good-- give me a call.
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Yeah?
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RESTAURANT MANAGER: Elmo was
bragging to me about the fact
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that he was a hit man-- and
that his services were for hire.
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At first I thought
he was kidding me--
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that he had murdered TK Harty.
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You're batty.
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RESTAURANT MANAGER: You have
to understand Elmo-- I just
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thought he was kidding
around with me, some sort
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of warped sense of humor.
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And then we started to
go on, and you know,
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I just said to him,
I said, all right--
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how'd you get in the house?
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Piece of cake.
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Busted out the glass.
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[glass shatters] Went in,
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waited around for him.
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[phone rings]
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Telephone signal-- two rings.
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I knew he was on his way.
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I waited.
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Saw the car lights, heard
the car, and waited for him.
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Elmo Florence
began to describe
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the inside of the house,
where the murder took place.
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He began to tell
the point of entry.
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He told what type of weapon
was used to kill Ted Harty.
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He told where the bullet entered
the head, and where it exited.
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There was basically, in the
statement that we received
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from the manager
of the restaurant,
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there were 21 different
points that we
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had not released to the public.
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[knocking]
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We knew at that time that we
had a very hot suspect here.
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Mr. Florence?
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Yeah.
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Elmo Florence?
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That's right.
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You're under
arrest for murder.
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Don't move.
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All right, get out of here.
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OK, get them on him--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Elmo Florence
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had told the restaurant
manager that John Mooney
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hired him to kill TK Harty.
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But when the police
tried to arrest Mooney,
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they found that he
had left the country.
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KENNETH KILGORE: If
Elmore Florence had not
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walked into the bar, and started
telling the different things
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that we later
determined to be true,
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possibly the investigation
into this murder
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would have never been solved.
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John Mooney had already been
established as a suspect,
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but there was no
connection at that time
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between Mooney and Florence.
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I don't know how long
that would have taken,
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if it were ever uncovered.
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This was a terrific
break-- it was lucky.
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And we took advantage of it.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Two weeks later, police
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were tipped off that Mooney had
returned to the United States
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and was staying at a
friend's apartment.
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Cobb County Police
Lieutenant, Lee Moss,
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went to the apartment building,
and approached two men who were
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drinking in the parking lot.
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LEE MOSS: The time I
arrested John Mooney,
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all I knew was his name
and a general description.
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And I knew that the
warrant was for murder.
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So when I saw the two
individuals drinking beer,
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this gave me a perfect out,
I figured, to approach them
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from this angle.
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But I knew if he
knew he was wanted,
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he would probably flee from us,
or else he'd pull a gun on us.
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I tell you, all these cans
here, it kind of upsets me--
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all this littering, y'all
sitting out here drinking.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Officer Moss
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ascertained that one of the
men was indeed John Mooney.
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I tell you what-- put
your hands on the car.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
He arrested Mooney,
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and charged him with murder.
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When the police inventoried
Mooney's belongings,
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they found several incriminating
notes he'd jotted to himself.
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Incredibly, Mooney had
written, "See Elmo,
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offer to him, if worse comes
to worst, to take the whole rap
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and say robbery was the motive.
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We have agreement for me to take
care of his wife and family."
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Elmo Florence's trial
lasted only one week.
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He was sentenced to life
at a maximum security
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prison in Georgia.
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John Mooney was also
sentenced to life
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in a maximum security prison.
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But three months
later, he was moved
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to a minimum security facility.
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After six months of observation
there, prison officials
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gave Mooney the job
of kitchen clerk.
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Now, he had access to
areas that were not
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available to most prisoners.
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How's the count
today, pretty good?
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245.
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245.
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CALVIN GREEN: John
Mooney was a--
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what you call an ideal inmate.
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He fit in well with
the inmate and staff.
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He didn't complain about
the rules and regulations,
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he just worked hard.
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And he gained the confidence
of the staff, and myself.
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So he had proven himself.
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But he-- now we see
he was a con artist,
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and he was conning us all.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On March the 16th,
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1980, after serving only 19
months of his life sentence,
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John Mooney
engineered his escape.
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When the prisoners
went back inside,
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the guard locked the
gate and walked away.
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Mooney made his break.
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An accomplice was waiting
in a car parked nearby.
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As Mooney ran toward the car,
he discarded his prisoner
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wardrobe, piece by piece.
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Two hours went by
before prison officials
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noticed Mooney was missing.
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By then, it was too late-- John
Mooney had made his getaway.
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He has not been seen
for over nine years.
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HARRY GORDON: Without the
actions of Mooney, and actually
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hiring somebody to take
another person's life,
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TK Harty would be here today.
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Unless John Henry
Mooney is captured,
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he got away with murder.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): These
photographs were taken in 1979.
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Today, John Mooney
would be 40 years old.
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He is 5 feet 10 inches tall,
and weighs about 170 pounds.
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Mooney has a fair
complexion, green eyes
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and sandy-blond hair.
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He may be living in
the Dayton, Ohio area.
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Update-- Scottsdale, Arizona.
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Within minutes of our
broadcast, two viewers
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called our telecenter to
report that John Mooney
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was living in this house,
under the assumed name,
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Robert J. Kelly.
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On August 8th,
John Mooney-- alias
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Robert Kelly-- was arrested at
his home by the Mesa Police.
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Mooney had been living
in Arizona since 1982.
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He was enrolled at
Arizona State University.
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For the past several
years, he'd been
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working as an accountant
for various companies
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in the Scottsdale area.
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Mooney married six years ago,
and has a one-year-old child.
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On September 16th, 1989, over
nine years after he escaped,
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John Mooney was
returned to Georgia.
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In a moment, the story of
Liz Carmichael-- visionary,
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automotive genius,
wanted fugitive.
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[theme music]
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In 1973, America was faced
with an oil crisis that
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nearly crippled the country.
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It created a gas shortage, and
motorists had to wait hours
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to fill up their tanks.
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Consumers wanted a
solution-- cheaper
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gas, or more economical cars.
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One visionary
claims she had just
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such a car-- a startling new
three-wheeled vehicle called
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the Dale.
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It was claimed that
this revolutionary car
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would get 70 miles
to the gallon,
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and cost less than $2,000.
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Made of a special
aerospace plastic,
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its creator claimed
it could withstand
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an impact against a brick
wall at 50 miles an hour,
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and was impossible to tip over.
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It seemed the perfect
answer to the gas crunch.
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It was a new idea.
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It's something-- we
all heard of the gas
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guzzlers coming from Detroit.
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And here's somebody who could
put out an automobile that
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could get 60 miles
to a gallon gas,
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and travel all over the
city without a problem--
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would've been the
ideal automobile .
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The entrepreneur
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who unveiled the Dale was a
remarkable and forceful woman
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named Liz Carmichael,
who saw herself
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as a cross between Howard
Hughes and Henry Ford.
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We have pledges from
private individuals--
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for private stock.
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BILL HALL: Elizabeth
Carmichael was very positive,
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a very command presence, a
very powerful appearing person.
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A big woman, a
massive woman-- but that
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was part of her appeal.
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She wanted to be a man.
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She wanted to wear
a man's pants.
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She acted like a
man-- she was strong.
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She was determined.
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FRANK GAVRICH: She
had the ability
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to incite the fire in you.
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Not wimpish in any way-- she was
a very dynamic, strong person.
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And she did things
that impressed us.
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ROBERT STACK: Liz
achieved celebrity status
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while raising over $3
million, through advanced
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purchases of her car.
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Then on May 29th, 1975,
Geraldine Elizabeth Carmichael
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was indicted by the Los
Angeles County grand jury
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for a grand theft and fraud.
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She was later found
guilty on 34 counts.
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Liz Carmichael's car, the
Dale, turned out to be a sham.
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Was this a case of
someone simply failing
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to live up to their dreams,
or did Liz Carmichael
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deliberately set out to swindle
millions from naive investors?
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In 1973, Liz was a
housewife living in Los
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Angeles with her five children.
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She claimed she had a degree
in mechanical engineering,
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and in 1974, formed
20th Century Motor
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Car Corporation to produce her
three-wheeled car, the Dale.
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I've called you all
together to try and give you
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some updated information
on what we're
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doing here at 20th Century
Motors, and with the Dale.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Liz Carmichael
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told investors and the press
that her company was renting
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three large aircraft
hangars, where they
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would soon start production.
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In our first year.
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And what about the cost?
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Cost factor-- any
American can afford our car.
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ROBERT YOUNGDAHL: And the
questions that were asked
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were not, well, if you've
got a manufacturing
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facility, where is it?
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And how long have
you been making cars?
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And who are your engineers?
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I mean, not the tough
questions-- the questions
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were basically, well,
Liz, we're behind you.
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And where can I send my money?
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It was just so exciting.
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And it was unbelievable.
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We used to get mails
sacks full of mail
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dragged into that
office almost every day.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): News
of Liz and her infamous car
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spread across the
country, and soon
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she was being interviewed by
Newsweek and People Magazine.
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Back at Liz's headquarters
in Encino, California,
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the authorities began
to question her claims.
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I'd like to see
Liz Carmichael.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The California Department
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of Corporations accused
Liz of illegally
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selling both dealer
franchises, and cars
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that did not yet exist.
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Department of Corporations.
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How do you do?
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I have a desist
and refrain order,
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issued against the 20th
Century Motor Car Corporation.
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It orders 20th Century
to desist and refrain
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from the further offer
and sale of securities.
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Thank you.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
Department of Motor Vehicles
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discovered the company had no
state permit to manufacture
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cars, and even questioned
whether the lab was
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developing a vehicle at all.
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We went to the research
and development lab,
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and observed what appeared to
be people appearing to be busy,
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but in wandering
through the lab,
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I saw no evidence that they
were designing a vehicle,
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or in the process
of making a vehicle.
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GERRY MCGUINESS: Everyone in the
research and development lab,
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without a doubt, was
sincere-- believed in the car.
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And there was even talk,
if the company should fold,
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there was a group of us
that wanted to get together
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and continue with the car.
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We believed that
much in the car.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Bill Hall
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went to check out
the three hangars
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where Liz claimed she was
gearing up to make the cars.
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BILL HALL: I went
to this airport.
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Upon entering, I
discovered the factory
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were nothing-- the hangars
were absolutely empty.
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No tools, no machinery, nothing
but a little dirt on the floor.
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They had rented this
for only one month,
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and the rent had now expired.
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So they actually did not
have a factory that they
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were representing they had.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): With
the authorities closing in,
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Liz decided it was time to move
her headquarters to Dallas.
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But there, two and a half weeks
later, the district attorney
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filed criminal charges
against Elizabeth Carmichael
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for grand theft.
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One week later, Bill Hall went
to the research and development
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lab with a search warrant.
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BILL HALL: Upon inspection
of this vehicle,
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it was not a viable
vehicle at all--
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it had no engine, two by fours
were holding up the rear wheel.
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The accelerator was just
sitting on the floor--
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it wasn't even attached.
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The windows were
not safety glass,
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they would bend back and forth.
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The doors were put on by
a regular door hinges--
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like one might find
on a house door.
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The vehicle just
absolutely did not exist.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Armed with a search
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warrant, the Dallas police
arrived at Liz's home.
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Ms. Carmichael?
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Police officers.
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We have a warrant.
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Police officers, ma'am.
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Ms. Carmichael?
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Police officers.
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What do you make
of this? [inaudible]
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[knocking]
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Ms. Carmichael?
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We have a warrant.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
police searched the house.
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It appeared Liz and her five
children had left in a hurry.
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God-- will you
look at this stuff?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Looking through Liz's
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belongings, the police found
evidence that Liz Carmichael
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was not what she seemed.
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What do you got there?
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Looks like some
kind of padded girdle.
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This is incredible.
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Mrs. Carmichael?
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I don't know.
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You know, we better
call this stuff in.
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OK, c'mon.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nine weeks later,
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Liz Carmichael was
discovered living in Miami
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with her five children.
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A neighbor recognized
her from a news photo
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and called the authorities.
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She was working for a dating
service, and going by the name
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was Susan Raines.
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They also learned
that Liz Carmichael
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had another identity.
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She was really a man--
Gerry Dean Michael.
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Michael claimed he
had begun hormone
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treatments in preparation
for a sex change operation.
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It was later learned
that Michael was wanted
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by the federal authorities
for counterfeiting in 1961,
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and jumping bail in 1962.
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We had no doubt
that this was a woman.
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You just didn't question it.
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You just didn't question it.
493
00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:53,566
I never thought
that Liz was a man.
494
00:23:53,666 --> 00:23:55,201
I always thought
that-- and she is,
495
00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:58,471
today, she's still Liz to me.
Still a female.
496
00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:03,442
Ms. Carmichael?
497
00:24:03,543 --> 00:24:05,978
We have a warrant
for your arrest.
498
00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,113
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): On April
499
00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:10,382
the 12th, 1975,
Gerry Dean Michael,
500
00:24:10,483 --> 00:24:14,621
alias Geraldine Elizabeth
Carmichael, was arrested.
501
00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,489
She was extradited
to Los Angeles,
502
00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:19,425
where she went on trial.
503
00:24:19,526 --> 00:24:22,695
Liz, you know, arrived
in court, every day,
504
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,964
in miniskirts.
505
00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,199
Now here is somebody
who's over 200 pounds,
506
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:33,172
and over 6 feet tall,
and has a demeanor of I
507
00:24:33,272 --> 00:24:35,875
am a new Henry Ford.
508
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:39,411
It was rather bizarre.
509
00:24:39,512 --> 00:24:43,049
You can say that Liz did not
give one quarter in the course
510
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:46,052
of the trial--
there was never once
511
00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:51,558
when Liz gave up her possession
that the people who supported
512
00:24:51,658 --> 00:24:53,993
her would vindicate her.
513
00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:55,695
Why did you tell the
public that that car
514
00:24:55,795 --> 00:25:00,767
could go 70 miles an hour, and
still get 70 miles per gallon?
515
00:25:00,867 --> 00:25:03,035
Because it can, sir.
516
00:25:03,135 --> 00:25:06,172
This car is the car
of the future, sir.
517
00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:09,308
Without all these
trial proceedings,
518
00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:12,311
this car would now
be in production.
519
00:25:12,411 --> 00:25:15,948
Well, then why did you collect
$19.95 from over 5,000 people,
520
00:25:16,048 --> 00:25:18,017
when there was no car existing?
521
00:25:18,117 --> 00:25:20,653
The car has yet to
roll off the line?
522
00:25:20,753 --> 00:25:22,154
As soon as the car
rolls off the line,
523
00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:23,990
the cars will be delivered.
524
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:27,093
As soon as this thing is
over, we will be rolling.
525
00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:29,095
GERRY MCGUINESS: The idea
was valid-- it was sound.
526
00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:30,496
It could be done today.
527
00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:31,931
It could still go
back in production,
528
00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:33,800
it still would be a great car.
529
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:35,301
There's no doubt about it.
530
00:25:35,401 --> 00:25:37,503
If she were to walk in this
room and say, let's go again,
531
00:25:37,604 --> 00:25:40,372
I'd go right with her.
532
00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:43,475
Has the jury
reached its verdict?
533
00:25:43,576 --> 00:25:45,477
JURY FOREMAN: Yes,
we have, your honor.
534
00:25:45,578 --> 00:25:48,147
JUDGE: What is your verdict?
535
00:25:48,247 --> 00:25:51,450
We find the defendant guilty.
536
00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:53,886
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On January 24, 1977,
537
00:25:53,986 --> 00:25:55,988
Carmichael was
convicted of conspiracy,
538
00:25:56,088 --> 00:25:57,924
grand theft, and fraud.
539
00:25:58,024 --> 00:26:00,326
She was released on
$50,000 bail, which
540
00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:01,961
was paid by a
prominent television
541
00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:05,264
production company in exchange
for the rights to her story.
542
00:26:05,364 --> 00:26:08,367
For four years, Liz
appealed her conviction.
543
00:26:08,467 --> 00:26:10,870
Finally, in 1980,
she failed to show up
544
00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:14,240
in court for sentencing, and
Liz Carmichael and her five
545
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:16,108
children vanished again.
546
00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:19,712
They have not been seen
for over eight years.
547
00:26:19,812 --> 00:26:22,615
If I were Liz, I would
be living as a man.
548
00:26:22,715 --> 00:26:26,318
Because all of this publicity,
and all of these victims,
549
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:28,387
know Liz as a woman.
550
00:26:28,487 --> 00:26:30,890
So I can't see how
anybody could now
551
00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:33,259
imagine, with the
passage of the years,
552
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,227
what Liz would look like.
553
00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:39,598
And if I were Liz, I
think I would be a man.
554
00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:41,734
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): This
is what Liz Carmichael looked
555
00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:46,172
like is a man in 1960-- and
using the FBI computers to age
556
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:49,676
his appearance, how
he may look today.
557
00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:54,380
This is Liz Carmichael
dressed as a woman in 1975,
558
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,982
and how she may look today.
559
00:26:59,185 --> 00:27:01,988
Update, within minutes
of our broadcast,
560
00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:04,056
our telecenter received
a tip from a viewer
561
00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:06,458
who recognized Liz
Carmichael as a flower
562
00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:09,128
vendor named Katherine Johnson.
563
00:27:09,228 --> 00:27:12,198
Curiously, she had chosen a
small community of Dale, Texas,
564
00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:13,833
as their new home.
565
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:17,103
Shortly thereafter,
Elizabeth Carmichael, a.k.a.
566
00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:20,807
Gerry Dean Michael, was
arrested at her home.
567
00:27:20,907 --> 00:27:22,541
Eight years after
she jumped bail,
568
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:25,311
Carmichael was returned to
California to face sentencing
569
00:27:25,411 --> 00:27:27,446
for her prior conviction.
570
00:27:27,546 --> 00:27:30,783
A judge reimposed a
sentence of one to 10 years.
571
00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:32,551
Carmichael served
two and a half years,
572
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,486
and was released from prison.
573
00:27:34,586 --> 00:27:36,422
She is currently living
as a private citizen
574
00:27:36,522 --> 00:27:37,824
in an undisclosed location.
575
00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:54,306
[theme music]
576
00:27:55,908 --> 00:27:57,576
On a previous
broadcast, we examined
577
00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:00,346
the case of 72-year-old
Annie Laurie Hearin,
578
00:28:00,446 --> 00:28:02,749
wife of Robert Hearin
Sr., one of the wealthiest
579
00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:04,416
men in Mississippi.
580
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:07,619
On the afternoon of
July the 26th, 1988,
581
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,421
Mrs. Hearin was
abducted from her home
582
00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,423
in Jackson, Mississippi.
583
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:14,426
The kidnapper left behind
a bizarre ransom note,
584
00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,328
demanding that Robert
Hearin pay money
585
00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:18,630
to 12 people, who
had all been sued
586
00:28:18,731 --> 00:28:20,466
by a company he controlled.
587
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,872
Neighbors reported seeing
a suspicious white van
588
00:28:25,972 --> 00:28:29,508
with Florida license plates
driving by the Hearin home,
589
00:28:29,608 --> 00:28:33,746
just before Annie
Laurie was kidnapped.
590
00:28:33,846 --> 00:28:35,514
Robert Hearin held
a press conference
591
00:28:35,614 --> 00:28:37,083
on the steps of
his home, to make
592
00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:41,888
a personal plea to the
kidnapper for his wife's safety.
593
00:28:41,988 --> 00:28:46,158
My children and I appeal
to whomever has my wife,
594
00:28:46,258 --> 00:28:50,062
that they may safe-- that she
may be safely returned to us.
595
00:28:50,162 --> 00:28:52,564
Thank you.
596
00:28:52,664 --> 00:28:53,766
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Eight days
597
00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:55,601
after the press
conference, Robert Hearin
598
00:28:55,701 --> 00:28:58,270
received a letter,
postmarked Atlanta, Georgia.
599
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:01,140
He recognized the
handwriting as his wife's.
600
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,574
ANNIE HEARIN (VOICEOVER):
Bob, if you don't
601
00:29:02,674 --> 00:29:04,811
do what these people
want you to do,
602
00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:07,479
they're going to seal me up
in the cellar of this house
603
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,882
with only a few jugs of water.
604
00:29:09,982 --> 00:29:10,817
Please save me.
605
00:29:13,719 --> 00:29:15,454
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Robert Hearin sent out checks
606
00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:17,824
totaling nearly $1
million to the people
607
00:29:17,924 --> 00:29:19,725
named on the kidnapper's list.
608
00:29:19,826 --> 00:29:22,128
He never again heard
from the kidnapper,
609
00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:23,195
or from Annie Laurie.
610
00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:29,168
Update-- last month,
Newton Alfred Wynn,
611
00:29:29,268 --> 00:29:32,304
a 65-year-old lawyer,
was arrested by the FBI
612
00:29:32,404 --> 00:29:34,706
in Florida, on charges
relating to the abduction
613
00:29:34,807 --> 00:29:36,575
of Annie Laurie Hearin.
614
00:29:36,675 --> 00:29:38,878
Wynn was one of the 12
men named in the ransom
615
00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:41,047
note left at the Hearin home.
616
00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:43,449
Also, less than one month
before the kidnapping,
617
00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:45,384
he had allegedly
purchased a van which
618
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:47,619
matched the description
of the vehicle seen
619
00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:50,056
in the Hearin neighborhood.
620
00:29:50,156 --> 00:29:52,458
The woman told the FBI
that Wynn had promised her
621
00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:55,527
$500 to travel from Florida
to Atlanta, Georgia,
622
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,664
and mail a letter for him,
just 16 days after Annie
623
00:29:58,764 --> 00:30:00,632
Laurie Hearin was kidnapped.
624
00:30:00,732 --> 00:30:02,668
He handed her a manila envelope.
625
00:30:02,768 --> 00:30:06,138
Inside was the letter, wrapped
in a gray linen napkin.
626
00:30:06,238 --> 00:30:09,175
Wynn instructed her not to
look at or touch the letter.
627
00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,910
But to deposit the
letter in a mail slot,
628
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:13,745
she had to ease the napkin off,
and she was able to observe
629
00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:15,747
the writing on the envelope.
630
00:30:15,848 --> 00:30:18,150
Later, she identified a
photograph of the envelope
631
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,386
Robert Hearin had
received from his wife,
632
00:30:20,486 --> 00:30:22,554
as the one she had
mailed in Atlanta.
633
00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:50,382
ROBERT HEARIN JR: I think
of my mama all the time,
634
00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:53,652
and I'm sure my daddy does, too.
635
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:57,689
There's no real way to quantify
what this-- how enormous
636
00:30:57,789 --> 00:31:00,059
a tragedy and ordeal
this has been to him,
637
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:01,460
and to the rest of the family.
638
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,038
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1983, Terry McClure
639
00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:13,505
was discovered murdered.
640
00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:15,574
Her son, Tim, was a key suspect.
641
00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:18,477
When he took a polygraph
test, he flunked.
642
00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:20,046
Tonight, he tells why.
643
00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:26,752
[theme music]
644
00:31:29,255 --> 00:31:31,523
This is the Unsolved Mysteries
telephone center, where
645
00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:33,825
viewers call with information.
646
00:31:33,926 --> 00:31:36,595
They also call with
suggestions for stories.
647
00:31:36,695 --> 00:31:39,966
Six months ago we received
a highly unusual call.
648
00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:42,868
It came from a man who is a
leading suspect in the murder
649
00:31:42,969 --> 00:31:43,735
of his own mother.
650
00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,509
38-year-old Tim McClure
lived with his mother, Terry,
651
00:31:50,609 --> 00:31:53,245
off and on throughout his 20s.
652
00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:54,713
Tim and his mother
were often seen
653
00:31:54,813 --> 00:31:57,216
together around town,
gambling at the slot machines,
654
00:31:57,316 --> 00:31:58,517
or dining out.
655
00:31:58,617 --> 00:32:00,519
Even after Tim moved
away from Reno,
656
00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:03,022
he remained close to Terry.
657
00:32:03,122 --> 00:32:05,924
She'd do anything for anybody.
658
00:32:06,025 --> 00:32:08,127
She'd-- you know-- give
the shirt off her back,
659
00:32:08,227 --> 00:32:09,795
or her last nickel to anybody.
660
00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:13,799
She was just-- she was just
a real kind-hearted woman.
661
00:32:13,899 --> 00:32:18,704
Very gentle-- she was
just a very calm person.
662
00:32:18,804 --> 00:32:20,672
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In 1983, Terry McClure was
663
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:23,042
62 years old and living alone.
664
00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:24,843
She was thrilled when
Tim called to tell her
665
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:26,312
he was getting married.
666
00:32:26,412 --> 00:32:28,380
His wedding took place
on Friday, January
667
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,250
the 14th, 1983 at
Lake Tahoe, Nevada.
668
00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,954
TIM MCCLURE: I was
totally ecstatic.
669
00:32:36,055 --> 00:32:38,524
I mean, a person waits all
their life to get married,
670
00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:41,293
and it's, you know, the
big moment in their life.
671
00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:44,130
You know, it wasn't
an elaborate wedding,
672
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:47,533
but to me it was the big moment.
673
00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:51,637
And it was great.
674
00:32:51,737 --> 00:32:52,971
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The newlyweds
675
00:32:53,072 --> 00:32:56,208
and their parents celebrated
by doing a little gambling.
676
00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,444
Then, around 10
o'clock in the evening,
677
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:02,448
Tim left to walk his
mother to her car.
678
00:33:02,548 --> 00:33:04,483
Terry planned to drive
straight home to Reno,
679
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:07,753
about an hour's drive
from Lake Tahoe.
680
00:33:07,853 --> 00:33:09,155
Tim told her that
he and his wife
681
00:33:09,255 --> 00:33:10,956
would stop by to
visit the next day.
682
00:33:16,062 --> 00:33:18,230
When the newlyweds went
to visit Terry at 6:00 PM
683
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:21,467
the next evening, they noticed
signs that she was not at home.
684
00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:31,210
Wow, this is strange.
685
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:33,045
I wonder why she didn't take
the paper in this morning.
686
00:33:33,145 --> 00:33:37,015
It just appeared as though
she hadn't been home.
687
00:33:37,116 --> 00:33:39,851
And it was at that point I
just had the strangest feeling
688
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:41,487
that something was wrong.
689
00:33:41,587 --> 00:33:45,257
I didn't know, but it just--
I knew she hadn't been home.
690
00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:48,527
And to me, that was
real odd and strange,
691
00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:52,798
because there I was, you
know, on my honeymoon,
692
00:33:52,898 --> 00:33:56,668
there to get married, and
she'd taken time off of work.
693
00:33:56,768 --> 00:34:03,409
And did not find her at home-- I
just, I couldn't understand it.
694
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:05,311
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Tim
call various family members
695
00:34:05,411 --> 00:34:06,878
and friends of his mother.
696
00:34:06,978 --> 00:34:09,115
No one had seen or
heard from Terry.
697
00:34:09,215 --> 00:34:11,683
So he called the police.
698
00:34:11,783 --> 00:34:16,088
Yes, I'd like to
report a missing person.
699
00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,856
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three days later, on Monday,
700
00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:20,459
January the 17th,
Terry McClure's car
701
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,294
was found in the
parking lot of a Carson
702
00:34:22,394 --> 00:34:25,497
City, Nevada casino--
only a half hour's drive
703
00:34:25,597 --> 00:34:27,766
outside Lake Tahoe.
704
00:34:27,866 --> 00:34:31,002
The keys were in the ignition,
the doors were locked,
705
00:34:31,103 --> 00:34:34,706
and Terry McClure was sitting
in the front seat, dead.
706
00:34:34,806 --> 00:34:36,508
She had been shot
twice in the head.
707
00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:39,978
The day after they
found the body,
708
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:43,149
Carson City detectives
questioned Tim.
709
00:34:43,249 --> 00:34:44,916
He was shocked when they
asked him if he wanted
710
00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:46,585
to have an attorney present.
711
00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:51,490
But slowly it dawned on Tim that
he was considered a suspect.
712
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:52,924
TIM MCCLURE: started
to feel like a victim.
713
00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:54,993
And I thought, why should
I have an attorney?
714
00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:56,762
You know, I mean, this
is my mother's death--
715
00:34:56,862 --> 00:34:59,631
you should be investigating
it on another level,
716
00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:02,601
rather than thinking of me as
doing it-- which, I found out,
717
00:35:02,701 --> 00:35:05,471
they were looking towards me.
I couldn't understand why.
718
00:35:05,571 --> 00:35:08,640
I started to feel
like the victim.
719
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:12,043
And it just--it
didn't make sense.
720
00:35:12,144 --> 00:35:13,545
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tim told the police
721
00:35:13,645 --> 00:35:15,214
that after he'd walked
his mother to her car
722
00:35:15,314 --> 00:35:17,616
at 10:00 PM on the
night of his wedding,
723
00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:19,151
he'd returned immediately
to the casino.
724
00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:26,758
Tim said his wife was still
gambling with her parents,
725
00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:30,962
so he gambled alone for two
hours, then rejoined his wife.
726
00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:34,700
They went out dancing till dawn.
727
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,668
Police have not been
able to substantiate
728
00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:40,906
Tim's or his wife's
whereabouts that night.
729
00:35:41,006 --> 00:35:44,075
Although they couldn't provide
specific locations where they
730
00:35:44,176 --> 00:35:48,447
went, we made every attempt
to determine which bar
731
00:35:48,547 --> 00:35:50,716
or which dance hall they
had gone to that night,
732
00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:52,318
and we were unsuccessful.
733
00:35:52,418 --> 00:35:55,721
They indicated that they partied
from approximately midnight
734
00:35:55,821 --> 00:35:58,724
until 6:00 AM the
following morning.
735
00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:01,560
None of which we were
able to substantiate,
736
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:03,495
one way or another.
737
00:36:03,595 --> 00:36:05,297
So we kind of went
on what he said.
738
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:09,868
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tim also told the police
739
00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:12,604
that two days before his
mother's body was discovered,
740
00:36:12,704 --> 00:36:15,974
he'd searched the main highway
between Lake Tahoe and Reno.
741
00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:18,510
The police became suspicious
when Tim said he was
742
00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:22,281
looking for his mother's purse.
743
00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:24,182
SCOTT BURAU: You know,
we, again, found it odd
744
00:36:24,283 --> 00:36:28,387
that he would attempt to
retrace his mother's steps
745
00:36:28,487 --> 00:36:30,021
for the purpose of
finding something
746
00:36:30,121 --> 00:36:32,391
that nobody knew was missing.
747
00:36:32,491 --> 00:36:36,895
On the 16th, nobody had any
idea her purse was missing.
748
00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:40,699
But he felt a specific need to
go out and look for that purse.
749
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:43,335
Yeah, oddly
enough, she was found
750
00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:45,136
with only her purse missing.
751
00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:48,106
She was fully clothed,
had all her jewelry.
752
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,376
The only thing
missing was her purse.
753
00:36:50,476 --> 00:36:52,278
They put together
the fact that I
754
00:36:52,378 --> 00:36:54,613
said I was looking for--
some evidence of her purse
755
00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,382
along the side of the highway.
756
00:36:56,482 --> 00:37:00,519
And the only reason I said that
was because my older sister
757
00:37:00,619 --> 00:37:02,120
had put the idea
that maybe somebody
758
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,224
had commandeered her vehicle,
and stolen her purse.
759
00:37:06,325 --> 00:37:07,526
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tim also drove
760
00:37:07,626 --> 00:37:09,295
through the parking
lots of the casinos
761
00:37:09,395 --> 00:37:11,162
along his mother's route.
762
00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:13,365
He proceeded at a slow
crawl through the lots
763
00:37:13,465 --> 00:37:18,236
of every casino, except one.
764
00:37:18,337 --> 00:37:21,440
TIM MCCLURE: Sometimes
you get a gut feeling--
765
00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:24,576
you could, maybe, think
of the Holy Spirit,
766
00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:29,014
if you will, just kind of
guiding you through perhaps
767
00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:31,517
a feeling of keeping
me away from there,
768
00:37:31,617 --> 00:37:33,552
to save me from finding her.
769
00:37:33,652 --> 00:37:35,354
I thank God I didn't find her.
770
00:37:35,454 --> 00:37:40,992
That would have
destroyed me to find her.
771
00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:42,628
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
That casino parking lot
772
00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:44,463
was the very spot
where Terry McClure's
773
00:37:44,563 --> 00:37:47,533
body would be found two days
later, on Monday, January
774
00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:49,568
the 17th.
775
00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:52,571
Police estimated that Terry
had been dead since Friday,
776
00:37:52,671 --> 00:37:56,408
the night of Tim's wedding.
777
00:37:56,508 --> 00:37:59,378
Police are also puzzled by a
call Tim made to cancel one
778
00:37:59,478 --> 00:38:02,047
of his mother's credit cards.
779
00:38:02,147 --> 00:38:04,249
Tim claimed you made the
call and Monday, January
780
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:07,986
the 17th, the day his
mother's body was found.
781
00:38:08,086 --> 00:38:09,655
But the credit card
company says he
782
00:38:09,755 --> 00:38:14,259
called on Friday, before
his mother had disappeared.
783
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,363
TIM MCCLURE: I had reported
her credit cards missing,
784
00:38:17,463 --> 00:38:20,031
thinking maybe that somebody
had commandeered the vehicle,
785
00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:22,734
and that her purse might
have possibly been missing.
786
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:24,102
I called on Monday.
787
00:38:24,202 --> 00:38:27,739
The woman had written down
that I called on Friday--
788
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:29,007
which I couldn't understand.
789
00:38:29,107 --> 00:38:30,442
It just didn't make any
sense to me why she would mix
790
00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,345
up from a Monday to a Friday.
791
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:35,414
The credit memo for
that particular company
792
00:38:35,514 --> 00:38:38,016
is now in the possession
of the Sheriff's office.
793
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:41,620
And it clearly shows,
according to their file,
794
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:47,058
that Tim called, indicated
to the recipient,
795
00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,060
that his mother was dead.
796
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,664
And the fact that his father
was dead, and to please
797
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,500
cancel the account.
798
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,502
TIM MCCLURE: It's just-- it's
one of the strangest things
799
00:38:56,602 --> 00:38:57,869
I have ever heard of.
800
00:38:57,969 --> 00:39:00,238
Because I called on Monday,
and how she could have mistaken
801
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:02,808
that for a Friday,
and then mixed
802
00:39:02,908 --> 00:39:04,976
up my words like that--
saying she had been murdered.
803
00:39:05,076 --> 00:39:06,277
I had no idea she'd
been murdered.
804
00:39:06,378 --> 00:39:07,546
All I knew, she was missing.
805
00:39:07,646 --> 00:39:09,381
And that's what I told them.
806
00:39:09,481 --> 00:39:13,351
We have a credit
memo, dated January 14.
807
00:39:13,452 --> 00:39:18,089
The lady that wrote that
credit memo, in her own mind,
808
00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:21,527
is absolutely sure that's the
date she received the phone
809
00:39:21,627 --> 00:39:26,331
call, from a person identifying
himself as Tim McClure.
810
00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:27,533
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Six months
811
00:39:27,633 --> 00:39:29,300
before Terry McClure
was murdered,
812
00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:33,972
she took out a $10,000
insurance policy on her life.
813
00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:37,976
Tim and one of his sisters
were named as co-beneficiaries.
814
00:39:38,076 --> 00:39:39,411
TIM MCCLURE: I didn't
think my mother would
815
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,013
take out an insurance policy.
816
00:39:42,113 --> 00:39:43,615
It just wasn't like her.
817
00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:45,451
I mean, they're thinking
that I, you know,
818
00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:47,886
did this for a reason.
819
00:39:47,986 --> 00:39:49,821
Which, my share is only $5,000.
820
00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:52,458
I mean, that's ridiculous.
821
00:39:52,558 --> 00:39:55,026
Well, I can't say that
that is the absolute motive
822
00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:57,429
in this case, but,
you know, I'm here
823
00:39:57,529 --> 00:40:01,600
to tell you that people have
been killed for a lot less.
824
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:02,834
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): On February
825
00:40:02,934 --> 00:40:05,871
the 14th, 1983, the
Carson City police
826
00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:08,373
asked Tim and his wife
to take a polygraph test.
827
00:40:11,142 --> 00:40:12,377
TIM MCCLURE: was
completely cooperative.
828
00:40:12,478 --> 00:40:13,945
I, you know, had
nothing to hide,
829
00:40:14,045 --> 00:40:15,180
no reason not to take one.
830
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,483
So, naturally, I said,
sure, I'll take a polygraph.
831
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,451
My wife agreed, too.
832
00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:24,255
So it was a strange situation--
when they were asking
833
00:40:24,355 --> 00:40:28,059
the questions, they
made me close my eyes,
834
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:30,295
being all wired up,
I felt like I was
835
00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:33,131
an electric chair, a very
hard, wood-armed chair,
836
00:40:33,231 --> 00:40:34,432
sitting there.
837
00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:36,401
And as they asked
the question, there
838
00:40:36,502 --> 00:40:39,871
was, oh, it seemed like maybe
a minute between each question,
839
00:40:39,971 --> 00:40:42,373
with my eyes closed.
840
00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:43,842
Just a number of
things were just
841
00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:45,210
going around through my mind.
842
00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:47,913
At that point, that's when I
started thinking, well, geez,
843
00:40:48,013 --> 00:40:50,949
what if they think I did it.
844
00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:52,918
I'd never taken a
polygraph before, I
845
00:40:53,018 --> 00:40:54,586
didn't know how to react.
846
00:40:54,686 --> 00:40:58,524
And it was just a very awkward
and uncomfortable situation
847
00:40:58,624 --> 00:41:00,158
for me.
848
00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:02,060
No.
849
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,330
The results of those
polygraph examinations
850
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:08,700
would strongly suggest deception
on both the part of Timothy
851
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,402
McClure and his wife.
852
00:41:11,503 --> 00:41:14,472
They were both
adamantly confronted
853
00:41:14,573 --> 00:41:19,678
about those deceptions,
and in the interviews,
854
00:41:19,778 --> 00:41:21,146
they had no response.
855
00:41:21,246 --> 00:41:24,883
They could not respond to why
the machine was telling them
856
00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:25,917
they were being deceptive.
857
00:41:26,017 --> 00:41:27,418
They had no answers.
858
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,388
I don't know why,
but I flunked the test.
859
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:34,726
And my wife had flunked only
one question, which didn't make
860
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,462
any sense-- do you know who
murdered Terry McClure was
861
00:41:37,563 --> 00:41:39,565
a question she was
asked, and it appeared
862
00:41:39,665 --> 00:41:42,467
to be a lie when she said no.
863
00:41:42,568 --> 00:41:44,903
So it looked like she
was trying to cover up.
864
00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:49,007
Which is unexplainable to me.
865
00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:51,042
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): All
the circumstantial evidence was
866
00:41:51,142 --> 00:41:53,044
submitted to the
Nevada DA, but he
867
00:41:53,144 --> 00:41:56,682
deemed it insufficient
to arrest Tim McLure.
868
00:41:56,782 --> 00:41:59,150
Police questioned friends,
family, and acquaintances
869
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:01,019
of Tim and Terry.
870
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,989
Their testimony indicated that
Tim had been genuinely devoted
871
00:42:04,089 --> 00:42:06,257
to his mother, and they
believed he would never
872
00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:09,260
have done anything to harm her.
873
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,630
TIM MCCLURE: mother
was my best friend.
874
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:14,399
I mean, all I could think of
was taking care of my mother,
875
00:42:14,499 --> 00:42:15,634
you know, for the
rest of her life,
876
00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:17,903
after she had taken
care of me all my life.
877
00:42:18,003 --> 00:42:20,639
That's the one thing I wanted to
do, was take care of my mother.
878
00:42:20,739 --> 00:42:21,640
And now I can't.
879
00:42:24,042 --> 00:42:25,944
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): This
picture of Tim and his mother
880
00:42:26,044 --> 00:42:27,445
was taken at his
wedding on January
881
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:31,149
the 14th, 1983, the
night she disappeared.
882
00:42:31,249 --> 00:42:33,418
Tim is hoping that someone
who was in the casino,
883
00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:35,987
or the dance hall in
Lake Tahoe that night,
884
00:42:36,087 --> 00:42:37,956
will remember him
because of his long hair
885
00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:41,059
and his unusual height
of 6 feet 5 inches.
886
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:43,261
He wants his alibi with
the night of his mother's
887
00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:46,331
murder to be substantiated.
888
00:42:46,431 --> 00:42:48,734
Perhaps somebody
will come forward.
889
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:50,135
Maybe they were
afraid in the past.
890
00:42:50,235 --> 00:42:52,137
Maybe somebody saw something.
891
00:42:52,237 --> 00:42:55,540
There has to be somebody out
there that had seen something
892
00:42:55,641 --> 00:42:57,075
that happened to my mother.
893
00:42:57,175 --> 00:43:00,445
You know, now would be a good
time to come out with it.
894
00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:17,395
[theme music]
895
00:43:17,495 --> 00:43:22,668
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