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[music playing]

ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.

Whenever possible, the
actual family members

and police officials
have participated

in recreating the events.

What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.

ROBERT STACK: Charlie Sigmin
lived in Blytheville, Arkansas.

He was a kind man with
strong religious beliefs,

but Charlie was a
man unlucky in love.

Married and divorced
twice, he despaired

of finding the right
woman, until he met Ann.

This time Charlie had thought
he had finally found happiness.

He was wrong.

[radio chatter]

During the early morning
of October 20, 1986,

Charlie Sigmin was
shot seven times.

MAN: Charlie was laying
face down on the carpet,

quite a bit up under him.

His clothes were in disarray
as he'd been in a fight.

He was soaking wet with sweat
and of course was bloody.

ROBERT STACK: Ann was
separated from Charlie.

He was killed in the home of
her new boyfriend, Garey Goff.

Ann admitted at the time
that Charlie had been shot

by her boyfriend,
but the police are

divided about the circumstances
of Charlie Sigmin's death.

Was it self-defense
or was it murder?

Tonight, we'll examine this
case and two other mysteries.

In one, a loving,
reliable family man

walked away from his home
and simply disappeared.

Police fear he may have amnesia.

The other involves
the odd memory

lapses called missing
time, experienced

by over 200 Americans.

Incredibly, they claim they
were abducted by UFO aliens.

It sounds outrageous,
but many are

credible citizens
and their claims

cannot be easily dismissed.

Join me.

You may be able to
help solve a mystery.

[music playing]

Charlie Sigmin loved
children, and when

he fell in love
with Ann, he also

fell in love with her two boys.

He wanted the best
for his new family,

and shortly after his marriage,
Charlie sold his small house

and moved Ann and her child
to a nine acre truck farm.

Charlie name the farm
after his and Ann's

initials, CNAs, a
name that he felt

symbolized his happy marriage.

BONITA SIGMIN: They
worked side by side.

And I know there's got to
have been-- got to have

been some love there somewhere.

Those two children is what
drew he and Ann together,

and they were so
crazy about Charlie,

and he'd watch those children.

After all of these things
that have happened--

and I can look back now, I can
see that she was feathering

her nest, she thought.

It was strange.

It's something I've never
been able to put my finger on,

but she just didn't seem
Charlie's type, ever,

from day one from
the day I met her.

I mean, he was crazy
about her, and I

wouldn't say
anything against her,

but she just never
seemed his type.

ROBERT STACK: During
the summer of 1986,

Charlie began to suspect that
Ann was seeing another man.

JOE IGLEHEART: He had
suspicions about her being

involved with somebody
else, and he said

that he'd been watching her.

She had disappeared one
night, had come back.

And then he woke up another
night and she was gone,

and he thought she
had taken off again.

Well, he got up,
put his clothes on,

and she wasn't in the house.

He saw a light under the door
of their refrigerator-- a little

shed they kept their
vegetables and stuff in.

He went out, opened
the door, and she

was sitting on the
floor in a negligee,

the way he described
to me about half naked.

She had a semi-circle
of candles around her,

had a poster or a
drawing of something

of a Satan-like figure on
the wall-- was chanting,

which he didn't understand.

[non-english speech]

And they had a confrontation.

They went in the house.

And he didn't go any
further than that.

I didn't ask.

And he said I'm not going to
tell you, mother, how he was--

how she was dress, and I'm not
going tell you what all I saw.

But he said she does
not worship God.

ROBERT STACK: Three
weeks earlier,

Charlie had found this
doll in their bedroom

and said that Ann
had told him it was

used in her witchcraft rituals.

BONITA SIGMIN: And he
said, mother, you don't

realize what that is, do you?

And I said, well, what is it?

He said that is a doll that
they use in their worship.

He said look at that
needle in through the heart

that's drawn on that.

And he said when I woke up
when I found that, he said

it was laying on my pillow.

ROBERT STACK: Disturbed
by Ann's behavior,

Charlie demanded
that she move out.

She went to nearby
Caruthersville,

Missouri to live with
Garey Goff, a truck driver

who had once been a policeman.

Ironically, Charlie had
known Gary since childhood.

But most upsetting to Charlie
was that Ann had taken

her two children with her.

These events took
their toll on Charlie.

He became depressed.

He missed his wife
and her two boys.

He still talked to
Ann occasionally,

and according to some
friends had then received

threatening calls from Garey.

On the night of
October 19, 1986,

Charlie was with an
old friend at home

when he received a
phone call from Ann.

[phone ringing]

Fearing publicity,
Charlie's friend

prefers to remain anonymous.

Hello?

JANE DOE: She said that the
two boys was crying after him.

She was threatening suicide.

And he said that he
had to go up there

and see what was happening.

He says I could be
getting set up here.

ROBERT STACK:
Charlie reluctantly

agreed to drive to Ann's.

According to his friend,
Charlie was quite sober.

He thought of taking a pistol
along but reconsidered.

No.

ROBERT STACK: 3:20
AM that same night--

Charlie's been shot.

Charlie's been shot.

ROBERT STACK: Ann
Sigmin reported

the shooting of her husband
at Garey Goff's house.

A Caruthersville Police
Department conducted

a crime scene investigation.

[police chatter]

GARY HILBURN: The
house was torn apart.

It was been a very
bad struggle in there.

There was blood all over
the door and the walls,

and there was a
couple of bullet holes

in the walls and [inaudible].

And there were seven
bullet wounds in the body.

There were two bullet holes on
the inside of his left thigh,

one bullet hole in the
upper left scrotum,

one in the right jaw, one
of his outside right fists,

one in the right ear, and one
in the front of the neck here.

This is the one that
was fatal, according

to the autopsy report.

ROBERT STACK: Two
guns were found.

A 32 revolver was
lying on the floor

and a 25 caliber pistol
was on top of the TV.

Both had been fired.

In addition, a bloody iron had
been placed in a wastebasket

in the kitchen.

She was yelling for help.

I got in there and
Charlie was beating her.

ROBERT STACK: Garey and Ann
were interrogated at length.

Garey Goff said he
struggled with Charlie,

hitting him with the iron and
firing all seven of the shots.

Ann corroborated
Garey's testimony,

but did admit to handling
the 25 caliber pistol.

Did you give it to Garey or
did Garey take it from you?

Uh, I gave it to Garey.

ROBERT STACK: Ann
claimed that Charlie

had arrived at the
house in a drunken rage,

demanding to be let inside.

Come on!

Come on!

Come on.

We've got to talk.

ROBERT STACK: He then forced
his way into the house.

Ann maintained that
once inside, Charlie

began beating her severely--
- Charlie!

ROBERT STACK: --until Garey
Goff came to her rescue.

[screaming]

Leave her alone!

Though Garey had a broken
arm from an earlier incident,

he fought with Charlie,
then shot him five times.

[gunshots]

He fired two more shots
from the 25 caliber pistol.

Finally, Charlie collapsed.

Unfortunately, no blood
test was taken to prove

if Charlie had been drinking.

But even if Ann's
story was true,

there still might be grounds for
a charge of premeditated murder

if Ann and Garey had
both fired at Charlie.

Police conducted a
powder residue test

to see if Ann had fired a gun.

It was inconclusive.

We took it all to the
prosecutor's office.

We told them what was in it.

He asked what I felt,
and at that time

I told him I felt
like it was probably

self-defense, that
I believed that they

were telling the truth.

And the only thing I
could tell him is we'll

have to do more
investigation and see.

ROBERT STACK: The
Caruthersville Police Department

released Ann and Garey.

However, the
investigation continued.

One of Ann's friends
claimed that Ann

had told her she had reasons
for wanting Charlie dead.

The sheriff's department
wired Ann's friend for sound

and waited for Ann
to say something that

would be an admission of guilt.

It sounds like it.

We were fast
reaching rope's end

at being able to charge
anybody with this crime,

so we had to do something
different than what

we were doing.

You just need that much time.

Fine.

I will wait until tomorrow
and then I'll call, OK?

JACK DAVIS: She had, in
talking with Ms. Sigmin,

had told her she was
fixing to go to the police.

Ms. Sigmin ultimately told
her not to go to the police

or ask her not to
go to the police

and give her time to-- her and
Mr. Goff time to leave town.

She incriminated
herself on the tape.

ROBERT STACK: After this
recorded conversation,

the authorities began to
prepare a warrant for Ann

and Garey's arrest.

But only a few hours
later, Ann Sigmin vanished,

leaving her two boys behind.

Garey Goff had
already left town,

and his truck was later found
abandoned in Phoenix, Arizona.

The couple has not
been seen since.

The police are still divided
on whether the shooting

of Charlie Sigmin was
self-defense or a murder.

In my mind, I do not see
a murder first degree here.

And I say that
because of the scene,

the disarray of the house, the
damage that was done to it,

the angle of the bullet wounds
to the body, the fight that

occurred, and the
damage to Garey--

the bruises on his chest
and face, and the bruises

on his back.

And, of course, the
man had a broken arm.

In my opinion, there is no
probability of self-defense.

Self-defense just don't
exist in this case.

And once we'd get into the
trial part of this case

where we can bring all
the information out,

I don't think that anybody
else will assume that, either.

I think their biggest
mistake is being gone.

I would like to see them come
back and resolve this thing,

because I do not believe
that Garey Goff is

capable of murder
first degree, and I've

got questions about it.

ROBERT STACK: The only way
the case will be resolved

is when Ann and Garey
have their day in court.

They have never been officially
served with a warrant,

and may not even be aware
that they are wanted.

[music playing]

Next, a shocking story of two
happy-go-lucky teenage boys

who died in a bizarre
train accident.

Their parents believe
they were murdered.

[music playing]

Last month, we told you
about two teenage boys

in Arkansas who apparently died
in a bizarre train accident.

Recent developments
have left no doubt

that in fact the
boys were murdered,

and that they may have been
killed by drug dealers.

Shortly after midnight
on August 23, 1987,

Don Henry and Kevin Ives set out
night hunting near the railroad

tracks behind Don's home.

Four hours later, a cargo train
traveling at 52 miles per hour

hurtled down on their
motionless bodies.

[horn honking]

STEPHEN SHROYER: And I started
laying down the diesel horn,

and I got no reaction, none at
all, not so much as a flinch.

ROBERT STACK: The two boys were
lying parallel on the tracks.

They were partially covered
by a light green tarp.

Beside them lay Don's
22 caliber rifle.

The state medical
examiner initially

ruled that their deaths
were an accident.

Months later, prosecutor
Richard Garrett

instigated a second autopsy.

This time the results revealed
that Kevin Ives had been

stabbed in the back
by a large knife,

Don Henry had been hit in
the face with a rifle butt.

Officials now believe
that both boys

were either unconscious or
dead before the train hit them.

Since the broadcast,
several anonymous callers

to our 800 number alleged
that Kevin and Don's death

is related to drug
trafficking in the area.

We have asked prosecutor
Richard Garrett to join

us to update the investigation.

Richard, how could the killings
be related to drug trafficking?

RICHARD GARRETT: Saline County
in the central Arkansas area

has overrun at this time
with drug trafficking,

and it's drug trafficking
on a high level

that extends into other states
and into other counties.

What do you believe
happened the night they died?

RICHARD GARRETT: I think
that the boys saw something

that they shouldn't
have seen, and it

had to do with drugs either
with a crank lab-- which

manufactures methamphetamine--
or certain individuals

involved in those matters.

And those people felt
like that the information

that the boys then
had was such that they

could not allow them to live.

Could anyone else be involved?

RICHARD GARRETT:
I think there is

a distinct
possibility that there

are other parties involved.

The thing is, the case is so
complex that the solution could

lead to something as simple
you as a vagrant or a migrant

on the railroad track
doing it, and going away

and us never hearing
anything from them again.

Or it could be as complicated
as police involvement.

MAN (ON RADIO):
--California license plate--

ROBERT STACK: I remember in the
segment the parents were very

frustrated with
the fact that they

couldn't get any information?

Do you think there's a cover-up?

RICHARD GARRETT: There certainly
was a cover-up at first,

whether inadvertent,
through lack of attention,

or through just plain
stubbornness when

this thing first got started.

The parents hollered for six
months for someone to help them

and for someone to find out
what happened to the boys,

and no one would help.

And how has this case
affected you personally?

RICHARD GARRETT: I go to bed
at night thinking about it

and I wake up in the
morning thinking about it.

It's all that's been on my mind.

The majority of my time during
the week is devoted to it.

And you just get involved
in it and you can't quit.

Thank you, Richard,
for being with us.

I hope we helped
you in the case.

In a moment, the
story of an Air Force

Sergeant who experienced
a bizarre phenomenon

called missing time.

In 1966, he vanished for
the period of one hour.

You said he had no idea
what happened until placed

under hypnosis 20 years later.

[music playing]

Imagine for a moment
that you go to the corner

store for a quick errand.

When you return home thinking
you've been gone no more

than five minutes, you
find that in reality three

hours had passed, and what is
more you have no memory of it

at all.

We're about to meet
several people who

have dealt with a
deeply disturbing

experience of missing time.

Their stories are both
bizarre and chilling.

Our first glimpse into the
extraordinary phenomenon

of missing time
begins simply enough.

At 8:45 PM on October
the 1st, 1966,

a bus pulled up in
front of Dutra's Market

in the small Cape Cod
village of North Truro.

Only one man got off the bus.

He was 19-year-old Airman
First Class Robert Matthews,

reporting for his
first tour of duty

at a nearby Air Force outpost.

He noticed that the
area was deserted.

Matthews was from Philadelphia.

Although he didn't know it,
his assignment in Cape Cod

would be a prelude to
service in Vietnam.

BOB MATTHEWS: I got off where
the bus driver told me where

I was supposed to
get off, and then

he told me to phone the
base and they would send

a truck down to pick me up.

Yes, I'll be waiting.
Thank you, sir.

BOB MATTHEWS: I told him I was
in front of Dutra's Market.

And he told me to stay
there and that there

would be a truck there to
pick me up in a minute.

[music playing]

While I was standing
there, I saw

these lights moving from
right to left across the sky.

That's when I felt
this fear you know.

And I said I better
call the base.

Hello.

This is Airman Matthews.

Yes, sir.

Yes, I've been
here all the time.

No, I haven't gone anywhere.

Please tell them to hurry.

There's something strange
going on out there.

BOB MATTHEWS: When I
called the base again,

they asked me where
I'd been and I

told them I'd been there
in front of Dutra's

you know waiting you know.

And he told me-- he
just, well, we sent

a truck down there already.

And I says, well, I've
been standing here waiting

and no one's been by here.

Matthews!

Matthews!

ROBERT STACK: The Air
Force told Bob Matthews

that a driver had arrived
to pick him up at 8:50 PM,

just five minutes after
his first phone call.

The driver claimed that
Matthews was nowhere in sight.

Nearly one hour later at 9:45,
the Air Force post received

Matthews' second phone call.

Yet in Bob Matthews' mind, those
two phone calls had been made

less than four minutes apart.

MAN: I want to know where
you were for that one hour!

In front of the market.

We sent a Jeep out there.

The officer came back
and you weren't there.

ROBERT STACK: When Matthews
arrived at the post,

he was questioned extensively
by Air Force personnel

wearing civilian clothes.

They began to interrogate
me about where

I'd been the past hour.

BOB MATTHEWS: I
stick to my story.

You know I tell them that I
was in Dutra's the whole time.

Matthews, you claim you
saw three lights coming

down from the sky at you.

Is that correct?

They were coming from
the sky down toward you.

RICHARD GARRETT:
They kept asking

me, well, what kind of
aircraft did you see,

and what did it do.

And this went on
for a long time.

And I thought it was still part
of basic training or something.

I thought this is what
they do to new guys.

Let me ask you, Matthews,
had you been drinking

before you got on the bus?

Had you been drinking
while you were on leave?

No.

MAN: Look, I think we all need--

BUDD HOPKINS: We have
this in many cases

where the person
is literally gone

but has been consciously
unaware of being missing.

It's kind of a mini
period of amnesia.

This is what the missing
time phenomenon really is.

It is not perceived as a
break in which something

happens and then a resumption.

It is time is remembered
as continuous, and yet

the half hour trip-- as it
turns out to be a two hour trip

or whatever.

And this is
sometimes experienced

in conjunction
with a UFO sighting

or something like a
light, but not always.

ROBERT STACK: In 1964,
Hopkins-- a well-known artist--

experienced a UFO sighting
along with several friends.

He delved into the field
and became a UFO expert.

BUDD HOPKINS: I began getting
phone calls from people

and letters, and many of
their sighting reports

had pieces of
missing time in them.

They could not
account for what--

why something that should
have taken 15 minutes

took two hours and a half,
a drive in a car which

involved a sighting of a UFO.

And we began looking
into those cases

and discovered one after another
of these abduction cases.

And, eventually-- together with
a psychologist who was helping

me with this and
other investigators--

we put together
many cases, and I

finally wrote a book about it.

ROBERT STACK: Over
the past 10 years,

Hopkins has written
two books dealing

with the phenomenon of missing
time and abduction by aliens.

He has received
thousands of letters

from people who believe
they have experienced

the missing time abduction.

He has personally investigated
more than 200 of them.

What was shocking to
me was that it turned out

to seem so incredibly common.

This is extraordinarily
widespread.

ROBERT STACK: At the time
Hopkins' books came out,

Bob Matthews was wrestling with
a secret that had haunted him

for 30 years, a secret
that had tormented

him long before his experience
at Dutra's Market on Cape Cod.

BOB MATTHEWS: When I was a
child-- maybe five or six--

I just happened to
wake up one night.

And I walked to my
right in my bedroom

and there was this
figure standing there,

a small figure with
a green glow to it.

And I sat up in bed,
and I tried to scream

and nothing came
out of my mouth.

And I thought I had
lost my hearing.

I thought I had lost my voice.

I didn't know what was going on.

The next thing I know,
everything was black again

and I was laying
back down in the bed.

And this thing-- this ghost,
I thought at the time--

when I was a kid, I called it a
ghost-- came over and sat down

on my bed and pulled
up my pajama top

and-- and I don't know
what it did to my chest,

but I knew it was doing
something to my chest

at the time, you know?

I told my mother that there
was a ghost in my room.

She kept reassuring me that
I was only having nightmares,

but I went through all my
life doubting my sanity,

wondering whether or not
these things have occurred.

ROBERT STACK: Bob Matthews
began to resolve his doubts

in the winter of 1987.

BOB MATTHEWS: I was on vacation,
looking for something to read

and on the shelf
there in front of me

I saw this book with this
creature on it, you know?

And when I looked at the book, I
said to myself that's the thing

that was in my room.

I read the book and I
thought someone had stepped

into my head and taken
my inner most fears

and put them in a book.

It brought tears to
my eyes, you know?

I couldn't believe
this was actually

happening to someone else.

BUDD HOPKINS: When
Bob called me,

it had that familiar
ring of truth

to me, as did the
details of his case.

He was quite convinced
that this was not a dream.

He sounded troubled,
curious, very, very stable.

ROBERT STACK: After weeks
of intensive interviews,

Budd Hopkins put Bob
Matthews under hypnosis

to explore the details of
Bob's childhood experiences.

While he was
hypnotized, Bob also

began to recall what
happened to him that night

outside Dutra's Market.

It's evening, October 1, 1966.

Now, very relaxed,
Bob, I want you to feel

the movement of that bus.

You can feel that
bus rolling along

and the sound-- hypnosis
is often very useful.

Even the AMA's
report on hypnosis

has said that it's
a very proper method

of retrieving lost memories.

So I connected myself with
a psychiatrist and a couple

of psychologists who
were doing the hypnosis,

and we began looking
into a number of cases.

Something was really,
really wrong, because all

of a sudden I got very afraid.

BUDD HOPKINS: Bob Matthews' case
is really typical and a very

good missing time case,
because the fact that there is

an indirect witness
to his having

been missing during a missing
time period is very important.

BOB MATTHEWS: I'm
going to call the base.

I'm going to call the base
and tell them, you know,

that there's something
strange happening here.

ROBERT STACK: Bob's
recollections were so vivid

that he was able to
return to Cape Cod

and reconstruct what
he believes took

place outside Dutra's Market.

BOB MATTHEWS: Under hypnosis,
I observed in the sky

two, three lights moving
in this direction.

They hovered over here, and
the red one came at me so fast.

It just got there so quick.

I-- if I had blinked
my eye, I don't

think I would have seen it,
but it got there so quick,

you know?

BUDD HOPKINS: Mhm.

And it just momentarily hovers
right on the parking lot there.

BUDD HOPKINS: Mhm.

And I can see some
light coming from a crack.

It's like a ramp opens down,
and I can see a lot of light

coming out of there.

Right over here is about where
the ramp was, right here.

Part of it was still
out in the road.

I walked up to it.

I walked up the ramp,
and I looked inside,

and I saw four beings sitting
over here on the left.

There was two
sitting on the right.

And the place reminded
me of a doctor's office.

I mean, it was clinical.

It looked clean.

I remember sitting down on
the table-- sitting down

on the bench, and I
remember looking down

and I saw that my shoes were
off and my shirt was off.

And they came over.

They examined my chest.

He looks at my chest
and the two of them,

it's like they have a
discussion with each other.

And it's like--

BUDD HOPKINS: Every
single case we

came out with a scenario,
which was exactly

like the other scenarios.

They're taken into a craft,
a landed UFO, put on a table.

Their clothes are removed.

They seem to have no will
or no ability to resist.

They are then
physically examined.

The descriptions
of the procedures,

what follows what, what
kinds of things happened

are extremely similar.

Samples are taken during that
time-- sometimes blood samples,

but often skin
scrapings, and very

often sperm and ova samples.

The descriptions that we're
getting of the UFO occupants,

at about 85%, are
extremely similar.

The figures are little,
between 3 and 1/2

and 5 feet tall,
extremely slender.

They have a grayish white skin.

They have very large craniums.

The eyes are often
very, very black.

The mouth is a slit,
which never seems to move

and there are no ears.

I'm the first one to admit
how outrageous all of this is.

The people to whom
it happens also

say this just can't happen.

Sometimes I even think it's
harder for people like us

to believe it than
the outside-- people

that it hasn't happened to.

I'm as much a skeptic
as anybody else.

I mean, I wasn't born
believing that UFOs existed.

Of course, I mean, you know I
get up in the morning and say,

no.

That can't be, just
that's ridiculous.

I can't use those
words abducted by aliens.

I just don't know what it was.

I know that some people came
and did some things to me,

but where did they come from?

I don't know.

I've worked with intensively
with about 11 abductees.

And I would say, to
my mind, seven of them

seem to be valid in terms of
the material that they present.

Nobody's ever been
through should ever wish--

ROBERT STACK: Budd Hopkins
has organized support groups

so that people who believe
they are victims of missing

time and alien
abduction can compare

their disturbing experiences.

The big question is, why me?

MAN: Yeah.
- I think we all ask that.

SUSAN FOX: I was
utterly skeptical.

I thought it was complete
hogwash, hocus pocus,

abducted by aliens, except
for the fact that there were

these patients of mine who I
knew to be very trustworthy,

very honest, very
un-crazy people,

just your garden variety
Boston area folks,

and they were reporting
strange things.

How many experiences
does each of you

remember having or
think you've had?

I would say at least 10--
I mean, 10 that I know of.

And Budd and I have done
hypnosis on about six of them.

ROBERT STACK: Kristina Florence
is a New York choreographer who

feels she has had multiple
experiences of missing

time and alien abduction.

--nothing happened.

And, I mean, I've got--

There is no question
that these stories

stretch the imagination.

Perhaps as a skeptic
suggests, they

could be the product of some
kind of mass hallucination.

But the people we
interviewed sincerely

believe what happened is real.

When we return, we'll hear
Kristina Florence's story.

Incredibly, her experiences
and others like hers

suggest that some sort of
genetic experimentation

is being conducted on the
victims of missing time.

[music playing]

The Mojave Desert,
1974-- Kristina Florence

was 17 years old when she, her
mother, and her older sister

crossed the Mojave en
route to San Francisco.

Near Barstow, California, their
car overheated and they took

the first exit off the highway.

You girls stay in the car.

Oh, mom.

Roll up the windows
and lock the door.

Yes, please--

KRISTINA FLORENCE:
Somewhere along the line

we got to this park.

We're going to suffocate.

Mom, don't you
think we're old enough

to handle this on our own?

MOM: We're having a
problem with this engine.

I have to go get some water.

KRISTINA FLORENCE: At that
point, she just walked away.

Where was she going?

I don't know, but she
said stay in the car.

[music playing]

We're not supposed
to go outside.

She said stay in the car.

Well, I am doing it.

KRISTINA FLORENCE: My
sister got out of the car

and I heard her run around
the back, and all of a sudden

she said, oh my god.

Come out here quick.

And the next thing I
remembered consciously

was that we were
lying on this blanket

in the middle of the park
as if we'd had a little nap,

just lying there.

Our mom was still not
around, and we woke up

and it was like,
whoa what happened.

And then the next thing I
remember, the three of us

were just driving like hell.

We never talked about
it until my sister

just called me up one day.

And we sort of began to
talk about it further

and realized that we'd both
had this very bizarre memory

of this missing time thing.

And she knew about
Budd, and she suggests

that I get in touch with Budd.

She had to sort of
crank up her courage

to look into it and
it was reluctant--

she was reluctant to do so.

I wasn't interested in UFOs.

I wasn't interested in
finding out-- meeting

some guy doing UFO research.

In New Mexico--

ROBERT STACK: In 1986, Kristina
agreed to undergo hypnosis,

hoping she could
recall some details

about what had happened
to her and her sister

that afternoon in Barstow.

At some point, your
mother pulls off the road.

You can feel the car move
as it turns off the road.

And you can see your mother,
and you can see yourself there.

You're there with Vicki.

KRISTINA FLORENCE:
Under hypnosis, I

start having this
picture that my sister's

getting out of the car.

And then I get out of
the car, and I looked up

and there was something
above the car.

And I was so scared.

I didn't know what it was.

I ran back to the
car, and she ran back.

And she got herself crunched
under the dashboard.

She was so scared.

And I was trying to start the
car and it wouldn't start.

[engine sputtering]

I don't know
what they're doing.

KRISTINA FLORENCE:
Then the next memory

that I had into the hypnosis
was that I was on a table

and there were
some people around.

It's like they're
pulling on my leg.

KRISTINA FLORENCE:
There was this screen.

It was about as wide as a
large television screen.

But it was paper
thin, and it was

just moving around the table and
it wasn't attached to anything.

And I could see three
dimensional shapes

of my skull and my whole body.

It was just taking pictures.

And it was just this
huge, spherical room that

was just covered with dials.

There wasn't space.

It was just dials.

And I felt like they put
like these rubber pants

on me or something
with things attached.

And then they left the
room and I laid there.

And I was asking for
my sister, and somebody

was telling me she's OK.

She's all right.

And then the dial started going
in, and they came back in,

and that's the last
thing I remember.

Then we were back on the grass.

Kristina Florence I think
is, without a doubt, absolute,

utterly, totally legit.

She is a very trustworthy,
very honest person

who I've talked
to several times,

and she's angry about
what's happened to her.

She doesn't like
what's happened to her.

She's been able to
incorporate it into her life

and get on with her
life, despite this.

WOMAN: Four and go,
and go, and step back.

KRISTINA FLORENCE: I live
a perfectly normal life.

You know I have a dance company.

I go to work every day.

I have an apartment.

I have two cats.

I have a perfectly normal life.

I'm not crazy.

There's definitely
something going on.

And what it is, I don't know.

I could be having a
dream and everyone else

is having the same
dream, but I'm not lying

and I'm not crazy.

ROBERT STACK: If Kristina and
Bob Matthews and the hundreds

of others like them are
not lying, if we even

admit the possibility that
these abductions have occurred,

it raises a
frightening question.

Why are the abductors here?

BUDD HOPKINS: Ultimately, the
focus becomes reproductive,

and the interest seems to have
to do with taking sperm and ova

samples-- and the whole
central focus of these--

of the physical
part of it-- seems

to deal with the idea of an
ongoing genetic experiment.

And these abductees
are, let's say,

involuntary victims
or specimen in this

ongoing genetic experiment.

There's an incredibly
high incidence

of gynecological,
physiological history

of symptoms that has
just not appeared

in the rest of the population.

Every time I meet
one of these people

and I say, well,
what is your history?

There is almost always something
like ovarian cancer at a very

young age, an ovarian cyst that
burst in the ovary was removed,

or some kind of strange thing
with twisted fallopian tubes,

all kinds of weird,
bizarre things

that have happened
that just don't happen.

I mean, women have
gynecological problems

but not to this degree.

A lot of us have
had false pregnancies,

miscarriages after three
months of pregnant--

abortions where there
actually was nothing that--

nothing was found.

And I don't know what that's
for or what that's about.

ROBERT STACK: The
thought of aliens

conducting reproductive
experiments

seems totally unbelievable.

WOMAN: Is it going to be--

ROBERT STACK: Yet those who
have experienced it insist

it is real, painfully real.

--this time, and I wish the
people that ridiculed us could

live one day and one night in my
body, but I don't want anybody

to go through what I live with.

BUDD HOPKINS: The numbers of
cases, the amount of distress--

emotional distress-- the
consistency of the accounts,

the physical marks, the
weight of the evidence

is so powerful
now that even if I

wished for the
luxury of disbelief,

it's not possible
for me anymore.

And that's unfortunate.

It would be, in a
certain sense, life

would be a lot simpler and nicer
if this would somehow go away.

It can't make sense and
it doesn't make sense.

So we're stuck, really, trying
to make sense out of something

that doesn't make sense.

But that is no reason to
dismiss it out of hand.

And I would really like to
get to the bottom of it someday.

I'd really like
to know what it's

about, because the hard part
of it is just not knowing.

If the scientists were
doing what they are supposed

to be doing, they
should be doing this

and it shouldn't be left
to people like myself.

The existence of an
extraordinary phenomenon--

as this is-- demands an
extraordinary investigation.

And, unfortunately, most of
the proper scientific community

is sitting on the sidelines,
leaving it up to the rest of us

to look into, and it's not
what should be happening.

ROBERT STACK: Abduction by
aliens, it seems outrageous,

yet those who have experienced
missing time episodes

believe that is exactly
what happened to them.

Of course, there's
no proof either way.

Until there is, even the
most skeptical among us

must admit at least
the slim possibility

that these unbelievable
events might

actually have taken place.

[music playing]

ROBERT STACK: Rogest Cain had
always hoped to build a better

life for his seven children.

In 1958, Rogest moved from
Mississippi to Los Angeles,

and for the first time ever
was able to give his children

advantages he never had.

My dad was a caring man.

He was the type of father
that would take his kids

to Disneyland, Long
Beach, Dodger Stadium,

different amusement parks.

He always wanted to
share time with his kids.

I think also his job
played a big part,

and in order for him
to be a good father,

he had to fulfill those
duties with the job.

ROBERT STACK: Rogest was 62
and worked for the Department

of Parks and Recreation.

He rarely missed
a day on the job.

[dog barking]

On the afternoon of
February 19, 1986,

Rogest told his sister
that he was going

to a local hardware store.

His family never saw him again.

[dog barking]

Rogest Cain is like millions
of Americans, whose virtues are

steadiness and reliability,
and his praises

remain largely unsung.

Because stability is a quality
we tend to take for granted,

a man like Rogest who
has both a solid employee

and a steadfast family
man, is often not

appreciated until he is gone.

Several clues have
surfaced to suggest

that Rogest is still alive.

The day after
Rogest disappeared,

he called a neighbor and
told her he didn't feel well

and would not be going to work.

THERESA WARNER: So immediately
I knew something was wrong.

And we proceeded
to call the police

departments, the
hospitals, the nursing

homes, all my relatives.

ROBERT STACK: Two days later,
a private security company

in an affluent neighborhood
spotted a man whom they

believed to be Rogest Cain.

The man appeared confused and
gave them a phone number--

Hi.
Can I help you with something?

ROBERT STACK: --belonging
to Rogest's sister, Theresa.

Is there a family
member I can call, maybe,

somebody I can get a hold
of to come pick you up?

ROBERT STACK: When Theresa
arrived to pick up her brother,

the man had disappeared.

One month later,
Rogest's car was

found parked on a busy street
22 miles from his home.

Remarkably, all his
papers-- his GI bill,

the deed to his property,
and his insurance

policies, as well as his
glasses and false teeth--

were in the car.

DEBRA CAIN: And there
were pieces of paper

with my sister's phone
number where he was

writing it over and over again.

And it made me think that he
was trying to remember it.

ROBERT STACK: At a gas station
next to Rogest's abandoned car,

police learned
that he had talked

with a mechanic on the
day after he disappeared.

The mechanic told us that our
father had brought the car in

and he needed it to be repaired.

And he paid for the
car before he left.

What's it going to cost?

You're looking at about $40.

$40?

OK, I'll pay you now, OK?

Now is fine.

The person at the
station told us

that he was last seen walking
away from the station,

kind of staggering, swaying,
that his speech was slurred.

DOUG HASKIN: At that
time was when we really

felt that he may have suffered
a slight stroke causing

some type of memory impairment.

He had a telephone credit card
on him when he was missing,

and that credit card was
used on a number of occasions

after he was last seen
by the security company.

ROBERT STACK: The calls
made on Rogest's credit card

were traced.

All of them were
numbers from want ads

printed in a local newspaper.

DOUG HASKIN: I
think when he became

lost he had that need to work.

He had no money.

He had enough
faculties about him

that his natural instinct
to survive took over

and Ro just did make
some of those calls using

his telephone credit card.

He was probably picked up,
either by a law enforcement

agency or even our
paramedics and transported

to a hospital for medical
treatment as a John Doe.

And he's probably still there.

THERESA WARNER: I don't give up.

I still pray that I find
him somewhere one day.

I just feel it within my
heart that he'll be all right.

[music playing]

ROBERT STACK: Update,
Topeka, Kansas-- the night

after our broadcast,
police received a call

from a man who
believed he recognized

Rogest Cain as a local
resident named Elmer Jackson.

ED KUEHL: The caller said when
he'd seen him on TV that he

was positive it was him.

And in questioning him,
that's when he came up

with the mannerisms,
the fact that he had

no dentures at that time, a
scar on his body, which I don't

think anybody probably knew,
except maybe the Los Angeles

Police and the relatives.

ROBERT STACK: Acting
on a caller's tip,

police attempted to
locate Elmer Jackson,

only to discover
he had disappeared.

Within days, Rogest Cain's
son, Lynn, flew to Topeka

and joined the police search.

LYNN CAIN: From what I
know, he's been in the area

about a year, a year and a half,
and a truck driver picked him

up, decided to name him Elmer,
and gave him his last name,

which was Jackson, so he
goes by Elmer Jackson.

He's been working
several jobs or side

jobs here and there, laying
bricks and things like that.

ROBERT STACK: Lynn
Cain and the Topeka

Police canvassed the
neighborhood where

Elmer Jackson was last seen.

They passed out flyers
of Rogest Cain's picture

but were unable to locate him.

LYNN CAIN: It's been
the best lead so far,

the only lead for
us at this point.

And we were unsuccessful
today, but maybe

tomorrow or days to come.

[music playing]

ROBERT STACK: For every
mystery, there is someone

somewhere who knows the truth.

Perhaps that
someone is watching.

Perhaps it's you.

[music playing]