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SIREN BLARES
Over here!
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Well, we all mess up,
we're all fallible,
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we've all done things
of which we are ashamed.
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The trick in life, I think...
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is knowing which things
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we should forgive ourselves for,
and which not.
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Except I'm not sure
it really is that.
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Suspect is a white male,
mid-40s, wearing a navy top
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and a grey baseball cap.
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Last seen walking toward
Burleigh Road,
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witnesses said he had
a knife in his hand. Over.
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I think a part of me wonders
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if I'm just coming to a
natural conclusion here.
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I've been doing this for... 28 years?
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There are other things
to do in life.
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Not like this.
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So why did you retire?
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I didn't retire. I was A19-ed.
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In the cutbacks.
Ah.
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The truth is, what I did,
what you still do,
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when you lose it, you realise
what a privilege it was.
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To be able to help people,
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often at the very worst moment
of their lives,
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to find faith in the world again.
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Cos I genuinely believe that's
a big part of what we do.
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Restore a little shape,
a little order,
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a little meaning to the world.
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I mean, not so much on traffic duty,
but, erm...
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And obviously Naked Gun.
Yeah, oh, say, Naked Gun.
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Midnight Run?
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Oh, man, Midnight Run.
Yep. Definitely.
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And Fargo would be on there.
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"You're darn tootin'!"
"OK, hun!"
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BOTH CHUCKLE
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His BP and stats are very low now.
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Get me four units of red cells...
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Well, that was a great evening,
thank you.
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I'd really like to do it again
sometime.
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Yeah, me too.
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All right, this is me.
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HE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY
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Well, anyway...
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..good night, then.
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Good night.
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MOBILE RINGS
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Yes, it went very well,
and no, I didn't snog him.
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Sorry, boss, that's not
what I was ringing about.
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What? Pete Carr.
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He's been attacked
outside his office. Stabbed.
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Oh, no!
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They say he's gonna be OK, but...
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No, no!
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He still had the knife on him
when they nicked him.
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Who was he?
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Some local nutjob.
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Links to far-right groups,
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got geed up by all the
online paedophile stuff.
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So we go after all those... fuckers.
Absolutely.
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She's exaggerating. Tim and I
were out for about 45 minutes,
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and Pete just went down the pub.
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And Chris Lowe?
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I don't know where Chris went,
you'd have to ask him.
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But you accept you were
all out of the house
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at various points between
9pm and midnight?
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Yes.
So why did you lie?
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I would have thought that had
become blindingly obvious.
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I thought there was
a very good chance
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anything I told you
would be leaked,
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and given my best friend is
now in intensive care,
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entirely because of you,
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I think I had pretty
good reason to be nervous.
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Can we move on to your car,
Mr Hollis?
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Which, in fact,
matches exactly the description
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of a car seen driving erratically
at approximately 12:20am
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on the morning that Hayley
went missing.
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And how many dark saloons
with trailer bars
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would there be in the Hardy area?
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We didn't ask your opinion,
Miss Gray.
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Although she's right.
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But I suspect even my ex-wife
will confirm I was in the house
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in bed at 12:20am.
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How old was your son...
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..that New Year's Eve, James?
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How old was Eliot?
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15.
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Actually, only a few weeks off 16,
I believe.
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And sadly, quite a
troubled young man, it seems.
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Already arrested twice,
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for possession of cannabis,
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once for ecstasy,
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and just one month before
New Year's Eve 1999,
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for stealing his dad's car and
driving it whilst drunk.
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Which is why I have to ask you,
James...
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..did Eliot take your car
that night?
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No.
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Maybe he came across Hayley,
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maybe hitch-hiking somewhere,
picked her up?
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Something happened between them,
something went wrong...
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Eliot's never hurt a fly.
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Maybe it was an accident.
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The car was seen to be driving
erratically.
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Maybe he was drunk, maybe he knocked
her down, it was a dark, wet night.
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But in either instance,
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you found out.
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And agreed to drive the body
back up to London
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to obscure your son's involvement.
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The idea that I would
drive the dead body
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of a young girl my son had
killed, to London,
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is...
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as absurd as it is abhorrent.
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Then can we ask you why,
when we first interviewed you,
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you referred to your son
as a "little boy"?
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A turn of phrase.
Really?
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We think it was deliberate.
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We think that you didn't want us
to even consider the idea
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that there was effectively another
adult in the house that night.
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I don't want my client
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answering any more questions
about his son.
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So unless you have any
actual evidence,
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rather than shot-in-the-dark
theories, I think we're done here.
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OK.
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Henry.
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We spoke to Maria.
Pete's conscious and talking.
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Stay strong, fella, stay strong.
Yeah, you too.
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It was stupid, and I apologise.
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A case of misguided loyalty.
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Misguided loyalty to who?
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Jamie.
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He rang us all after he'd first
been interviewed by you,
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and he said he told you that
we all stayed in that night.
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The inference I took was that
we should all say the same.
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Why do you think
he wanted you to lie?
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At first I thought it was
because of his profile
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that he didn't want the press
latching onto him.
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And, yeah, I was happy
to go along with that,
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because I didn't for a
nanosecond believe there was any...
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..darker motive.
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Except then yesterday Pete rang me.
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Pete Carr.
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And he told me something
about Jamie's son.
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Told you what?
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He said he'd seen Eliot
climbing into the house
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through a first-floor window
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at around two in the morning
on New Year's Day.
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OK, so where are we
with Eliot Hollis?
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Still looking for him.
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But for what it's worth,
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I just pulled this off an
online employment site
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which he signed up to in 2007,
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when he was living in the
States with his dad.
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It details holiday work on a
building site in the UK, so...
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OK. Let's check James Hollis's car,
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the BMW, I wanna see
its service history.
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Maybe speak to the ex again,
check their bank statements,
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insurance companies.
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I want to know if the car
had any bodywork repairs done
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in the months immediately
after Hayley died.
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I just wanna say I'm sorry, Pete.
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I was angry, and... shocked...
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..but I also know in my heart
you're a good man.
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Yeah, you've done some silly things,
we both know that, but...
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..you're a good man.
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And I want you to hear
that I know that.
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Basically, I think Hayley
used a sort of code,
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in her diary,
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I'm guessing
for if her mum read it,
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so she wouldn't know what
she was referring to.
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So, first up,
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when she has sex,
I think she calls it "tea".
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And then, and I think this is
actually more important,
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when she says she had some cake, I
think she's saying she took drugs.
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So this is just a small selection
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of the times these words appear,
but you can see a clear pattern.
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"Great cake at Marly's, then
went shopping, a very nice trip."
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"Went clubbing in Portsmouth,
ate cake, up till six."
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"Had tea and cake with Ade,
his birthday present to me,
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"just what I always wanted."
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The reason I think
this is significant
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is this reference here.
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This is dated two days
before she disappeared.
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And here, she says,
"G's gonna get us some cake
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"for the New Year party."
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I think this is why
she left work earlier,
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I think G's is where she was going.
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Dealer, maybe? Or friend
who was selling her some gear.
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Erm...
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I mean, it might explain
how she could have been
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in the vicinity of the Spinney,
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which from the pub, is the
opposite direction to the party.
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Nice work, Fran.
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OK, can we liaise with
Hampshire Police
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on local drug dealers,
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then and now?
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But really good work, Fran.
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Thanks, guys.
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Shall we?
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Miller, hi, it's me.
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Erm... I'm sorry I haven't
rung before,
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but I just needed some time
on my own to think things through.
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And I wanted to say...
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..don't believe what you might
hear about me from the police.
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I'm not a bad man.
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I made some mistakes
but I'm not a bad man.
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So, why did you lie, Christopher?
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I lied, erm... because from the
moment Hayley Reid went missing
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I sort of believed
that at some point
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someone would knock on my door
wanting to blame me.
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Which... I believed for
a number of reasons.
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None of which include me having
anything to do with her death.
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Erm... in late December 1999...
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..I was in a bad way, mentally.
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I was in the manic phase,
I know now, of a bipolar episode.
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Exacerbated by over-work,
and by a personal event
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that had...
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profoundly traumatised me.
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And on New Year's Eve,
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in addition to me idiotically
taking some cocaine,
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it overwhelmed me.
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And I became very unwell.
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I think I ended up leaving the
house, and just, just walking,
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eh, I dunno where,
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for a couple of hours.
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And then finally, when I returned,
I was exhausted
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and I fell asleep
almost immediately,
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and then the next day...
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..news started to filter through
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about this missing local girl,
and...
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..because of this personal thing
that had happened,
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and I suppose to a degree because
of my poor mental health,
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I became... obsessed that the
police would come for me,
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that a knock on the door
was imminent.
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But it-it-it didn't actually come.
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Not that day, nor the next, or the
day after. It didn't come.
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But, erm... I never stopped
waiting for it.
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So, when you finally showed up,
DCI Stuart,
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in my head I went straight
back to those first days
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after Hayley Reid went missing,
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I felt the same fear,
the same panic,
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and yeah, I lied.
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I lied about where I was that night.
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That is all that I lied about,
because I swear, I-I...
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I didn't hurt Hayley Reid.
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I never even met her.
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And this event, that fed
into your paranoia...
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..what was that?
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Yeah, so, uh...
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On October 12th 1999 I was
arrested for credit card payments
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to online child sex abuse sites.
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The card was a business one, which
meant I was arrested at the office,
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and the police told my
business partner, Helen,
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because I sometimes visited
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commercial shoots
involving children.
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She then told the board,
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and in January 2000,
she told my wife.
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Two months later, when I was
charged, the board sacked me.
256
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Then my wife filed for divorce.
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So, within four months
of my arrest...
258
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..yeah, I lost, erm...
259
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I lost everything.
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Everything I loved.
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My wife, Laura, and my career.
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My...
CHOKES UP
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My beautiful daughter.
264
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Yeah. Yeah, my life just
pretty much collapsed.
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But here's the thing,
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it wasn't me.
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The credit card payments,
I didn't make them.
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My life had been ruined, and
I was completely, 100% innocent.
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And do you happen to remember
who packed the trailer?
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Jesus! You don't think...?
Do you?
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I always used to pack the bags,
and...
272
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James always used to put them
in the trailer.
273
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OK. And your car, a BMW 3 series,
I believe?
274
00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,700
Yeah. Do you recall if it sustained
any damage over that break?
275
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You think it was a car accident?
Do you?
276
00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:31,420
Mrs Hollis?
277
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He said he'd hit a deer.
278
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Your husband?
Yes, my husband. Who else?
279
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Why don't you take a look at these
photos, and this floor plan...
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..and tell me if you can remember
which bedroom
281
00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:52,020
you and your husband slept in,
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which bedroom your friends slept in,
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and which your son.
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No.
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My card details, like those
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of hundreds of other
completely innocent people
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were cloned.
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Of course, I protested my innocence,
I told them, "This is crazy.
289
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"I've never visited these sites,
it's absurd, a mistake."
290
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But I was charged.
291
00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:19,860
And then...
292
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..then suddenly I was living alone
in a depressing flat in Acton.
293
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And my trial date had not been set.
294
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I managed to salvage some money from
my separation, and I found a lawyer,
295
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and we hired a team of investigators
296
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to prove that the sites paid for
were never actually visited,
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they proved that when
the payments were made,
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allegedly from my work computer,
I was abroad.
299
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And so in 2003, finally,
300
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the charges were dropped
301
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and I was granted a
record deletion application
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in 2004.
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00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:55,100
By this time Laura had remarried,
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and I hadn't seen her,
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or been allowed to see my daughter,
for three years.
306
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I was living in shelters,
or on the streets,
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without access to
the medication I needed.
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LAUGHS
The idea of just turning up,
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00:18:09,140 --> 00:18:12,340
and persuading them I hadn't
somehow bought my innocence...
310
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..yeah, that was beyond me.
311
00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:22,100
So I had to try and begin to accept
what had happened to me,
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this awful injustice,
313
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this catastrophic unfairness.
314
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To try... to try and...
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rebuild a life.
316
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You know, which sounds simpler
than it actually was,
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because I was homeless,
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in and out of temporary
accommodation for six more years...
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..before Tim...
CHOKES UP
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..my friend, Tim,
321
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he finally tracked me down,
322
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bought me my first van, in 2010,
323
00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:55,860
then I began to live again,
rather than just exist.
324
00:18:56,060 --> 00:18:59,020
Then one week ago, you turn up, and
ask a man who has lost everything,
325
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,100
through, what, just simple bad luck,
326
00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:05,940
someone... someone who knows
what can happen,
327
00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:07,940
and you ask him where
he was that night.
328
00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:13,500
Yeah, so, that's why I lied.
329
00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:15,780
That.
330
00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:18,820
(That.)
331
00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:22,460
James Hollis's ex remembers
his son slept in a box room.
332
00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:24,780
The only box room in the house
333
00:19:24,980 --> 00:19:27,140
has a window that goes out
onto a flat roof.
334
00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:28,700
Which supports Tim Finch's claim
335
00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:30,780
that Pete Carr saw him
seen climbing in at 2am.
336
00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:32,420
Exactly.
337
00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:36,100
Yeah.
PHONE RINGS
338
00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:37,380
Jake Collier.
339
00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:41,660
She's in an interview at the moment,
can I pass on a message?
340
00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:47,100
Hello, is it Maria?
341
00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:49,140
SNIFFS
Yeah.
342
00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:51,660
Sorry, I was just having
a quick nap.
343
00:19:51,860 --> 00:19:55,420
I'm Dr Walsh. I'm one of the doctors
who's been looking after Peter.
344
00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:58,140
Oh, right. Yes. How's he doing?
345
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,460
(Shit.)
346
00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:12,500
D'you believe him?
I dunno.
347
00:20:13,540 --> 00:20:14,940
Maybe.
348
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,580
You speak to the legal firm,
349
00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,540
I'll try and track down the
unit that investigated him. OK.
350
00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:21,540
KNOCK ON DOOR
Guv?
351
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,120
King's Lynn nick just rang.
Peter Carr's died.
352
00:20:25,765 --> 00:20:27,605
Heart attack.
353
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,840
SOBBING
354
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760
PHONE RINGS
355
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,560
'Please leave your message
after the tone.'
356
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,120
Mrs Carr, it's DCI Cassie Stuart.
357
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480
I just wanted to ring
and say... how..
358
00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:06,930
..desperately sad I was...
359
00:21:09,212 --> 00:21:11,532
..to hear about your
husband's death.
360
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,440
DCI Stuart? DCI Stuart,
have you got anything to say?
361
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,280
CAMERAS CLICK
362
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,440
ALL SHOUT
What will you say to his family?
363
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,280
D'you blame yourself, DCI Stuart?
364
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,200
WINDOWS THUMPED
365
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,160
'..and as his wife comforts
their two young sons tonight,
366
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:35,864
'I think the death of Mr Carr raises
a number of important questions.
367
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,520
'Firstly, what new laws, if any,
do we need,
368
00:21:39,844 --> 00:21:41,604
'in order to better restrict
369
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,145
'the sort of hateful
social media campaign
370
00:21:44,184 --> 00:21:47,840
'that undoubtedly contributed
towards his murder?
371
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,720
'And secondly, I think we need
to ask how problematic it is
372
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,600
'that such major
criminal investigations
373
00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,070
'as this one, are increasingly being
held under such a public gaze.
374
00:22:00,688 --> 00:22:03,760
'With police so far
refusing to confirm
375
00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:06,834
'whether Peter Carr
remained a suspect,
376
00:22:06,883 --> 00:22:09,828
'the parents of Hayley Reid
must be asking themselves
377
00:22:09,930 --> 00:22:12,320
'the most painful question.
378
00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:15,559
'Has the killer of
their beloved daughter
379
00:22:15,675 --> 00:22:19,995
'taken the secret of her
final moments to his grave?
380
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,320
'This is Rohit Katru,
outside Bishop's -'
381
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,440
DOOR CLOSES
382
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,720
Hey.
383
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,200
I just went out to grab a bag.
I didn't forget to turn it off.
384
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,240
Dad -
I just want to say that I've been...
385
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,880
..thinking about what we were
discussing the other day.
386
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,240
And I am genuinely sorry about
what you are going through.
387
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,480
I'm fine.
The problems at work
388
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,000
or whatever it is personally.
389
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040
My personal life is fine, too.
390
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,920
Of course... I'll always be there,
you know?
391
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,880
To give you whatever I can,
392
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,240
whenever you need it.
393
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,240
Wow. Well, thank you so much.
394
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,000
It's just that, erm...
395
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,120
..well, at the moment I think it
would be better for both of us
396
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,560
if I were to give you
a bit of space.
397
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,920
So I think it's best if I
move in with Jenny for a bit.
398
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,520
All right.
399
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,440
Anyway...
400
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840
it'll be a rehearsal for us,
you know?
401
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,800
"Rehearsal."
402
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,920
I asked her last night
if she'd marry me.
403
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,600
She said she would.
404
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,280
So, we'll probably...
405
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,040
buy somewhere together, next year.
406
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,920
Sorry, you mean, like,
move in together? Cos you can't...
407
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,760
you can't buy somewhere together,
can you?
408
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,360
Cos you're the only one
with any money.
409
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,560
I never thought that
we'd fall out about money.
410
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,720
I'll give you a call tomorrow.
411
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040
I love you, sweetheart.
412
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,560
Yeah!
413
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,600
DOOR CLOSES
414
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,200
I miss... us...
415
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,960
as a family.
416
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,240
I miss us all being together.
417
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,960
I miss you.
418
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,000
And I missed you, Aisha.
419
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,480
When you left for your soulmate.
420
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,200
D'you remember?
421
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,040
The girls missed you so much.
422
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,520
And I'm so sorry for that.
423
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,880
For all the mistakes I made,
which I want to put right.
424
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,120
Now!
425
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720
It's too late. We've moved on.
426
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,000
I've moved on.
427
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,360
Then...
428
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840
you... love her, do you,
429
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,600
this... Sal?
430
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,760
Yes, I do.
431
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,800
And the girls, I mean...
432
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800
Surely we owe it to them
to ask what they'd like?
433
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,560
"We"?
434
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Surely you can't deny them that.
I mean, if they want it,
435
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,840
the chance for us all
to be together again.
436
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,600
A proper family.
437
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320
You always said
the girls came first.
438
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,160
But I never meant for anyone
to actually DO anything!
439
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840
OK.
440
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Can I read what your last post said?
441
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760
"For too long, paedophiles,
rapists and murderers
442
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,960
"have been treated as if
they were the victims.
443
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,240
"but enough is enough.
444
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,680
"If the government won't bring back
the death penalty for such crimes,
445
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,600
"perhaps it's time for honest,
law-abiding citizens,
446
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,080
"to take matters into
their own hands."
447
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,520
And then you've put a picture of
Peter Carr
448
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,920
with his work address,
under the headline, "Monster".
449
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,560
But I never said to anyone
to kill him!
450
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,960
So when you said it was time
451
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,440
for people to take matters
into their own hands,
452
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,920
what did you mean, exactly?
453
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,640
I just wanted a job.
454
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720
I'm 27, and I have
a degree in journalism
455
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800
that's cost me the
best part of 50 grand.
456
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960
And I have never
457
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,120
had proper paid work
in my chosen field,
458
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440
despite having written hundreds
of job applications.
459
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,600
So I was just trying to... shock.
460
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520
Cos... that's what you need
to do these days.
461
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Otherwise no-one hears you,
no-one listens.
462
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,640
And if no-one listens, what are you?
463
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,360
You're no-one.
464
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480
In terms of the IPCC
it's a mandatory referral.
465
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,800
I don't really have any choice.
466
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,880
And the case?
467
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
The Reid family have reiterated
their faith in you.
468
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240
For now, the case remains yours.
469
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,880
Thank you.
470
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,720
Oh, just ask the actual
fucking question, Em, please.
471
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,040
Look, I've got ten minutes
before I'm due back,
472
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,840
and I really don't have time for
endless, dreary euphemisms.
473
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,216
You don't have to get so unpleasant,
Dad. Oh, you think?
474
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,800
It's just that, as your father,
475
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280
I thought you might
already know the answer.
476
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,200
I'm sorry.
477
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,640
I'm very stressed by all of this.
478
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,560
But, no.
479
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,680
I never hit your mum.
480
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,200
Apologies, but I...
have a two o'clock.
481
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440
And for the avoidance of any doubt,
482
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960
I'm not a psychopathic murderer,
either.
483
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,400
Just pull the door to,
when you leave.
484
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Love you.
485
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,360
DOOR CLOSES
486
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,280
Els?
487
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520
If you don't tell me the truth,
Eliot,
488
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920
I can't continue to protect you.
Like you have for the past 32 years?
489
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600
Protect me from what? Have you had
a good look at me recently, Dad?
490
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Prison. And I will happily do that.
491
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,320
I will lie for you,
and say I was driving that night.
492
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:38,720
But you have to tell me the truth.
493
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,400
I've already told you
a million times.
494
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,920
I don't think so.
495
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Yes, I have. I was driving,
I hit something, I don't know what.
496
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160
I went out to look for it and
couldn't find anything. That's it.
497
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,680
No. Yes! Because you actually
went back that night.
498
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,040
I what?!
I think you actually found her,
499
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,080
and then you hid her,
500
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320
and then you went back to get
her a few nights later.
501
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,640
What the fuck are you talking about?
Tell me the truth, please, Eliot!
502
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,840
It's been 18 years, I need to hear
it, now, I need to hear the truth!
503
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Where was she found?
Oh, you KNOW where she was found!
504
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480
I don't! I've been using
since you first called me!
505
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,960
Where was she found?
506
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Tell me, where was she found?!
She was buried in London.
507
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,640
What?
508
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,560
(No.)
509
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,720
What?
510
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,120
DOG BARKS
Come on!
511
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,080
Good boy!
512
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Wooh!
DOG BARKS
513
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,520
Boss.
Yep.
514
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Uh, so, just got off the phone
to Eastleigh nick,
515
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,360
which is the nearest one
to Middenham,
516
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,040
so they've identified our 'G'
as local drug dealer,
517
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,560
nickname 'Gandalf',
518
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,880
real name, Nigel Farndale.
519
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440
He's got a 30-year record
of drug offences, so they're gonna
520
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
pull him up and bring him
straight in. OK. Thank you.
521
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600
James Hollis is downstairs,
with his son.
522
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,840
For the past 18 years
523
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,520
I have believed that my son
killed Hayley Reid.
524
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,960
Because he did steal my car,
he was drunk,
525
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,080
and when he got back home
at two in the morning
526
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280
and I found him in his room
in a terrible state,
527
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,840
he told me that he'd hit something.
528
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,600
He said that he'd got out
to see what it was,
529
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,360
but couldn't find anything.
530
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,840
And although his gut instinct told
him that it was just an animal...
531
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,920
..he was also very scared...
532
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,960
..that it might be a person.
533
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Which fear grew, when the next day
534
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,160
news that Hayley Reid was missing
started to filter through.
535
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,240
And the fact they couldn't find her
536
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000
also, uh... fitted
537
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120
because the road he was on
538
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,480
was next to the river
539
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
which had burst its banks
following the heavy rain.
540
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Meaning we had to consider
541
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040
the awful possibility...
542
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040
..that she had been knocked into the
water, washed down the river,
543
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,680
and out to sea.
544
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440
And for 18 years
545
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,800
he and I have hidden that, uh...
546
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,320
dreadful secret,
and I'm so, so sorry for that.
547
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,280
And then she was found.
548
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800
The nightmare should have been over.
Except...
549
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800
INHALES SHARPLY
..instead of finally
550
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680
believing that he was innocent...
551
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,400
..I started to believe that
not only had he hit her,
552
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,720
but he'd actually found her,
553
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,240
and hidden her
554
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800
to drive back down a few days later,
555
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960
retrieve the body...
and bury it in London.
556
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,920
Oh, it, erm...
557
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,520
might seem a terrible thing
to believe about your son.
558
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,520
But...
559
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,560
18 years of this...
560
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,520
toxic secret between us, and...
561
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,040
..seeing the consequences of that in
everything my son has become...
562
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
..has made my judgement bad.
563
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440
And how do you know he didn't do
exactly what you've described?
564
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Because when I finally found him,
just a few hours ago,
565
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,640
and talked to him properly
566
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,360
for the first time since
Hayley had been found...
567
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,520
he reminded me that we
drove back early on the 2nd,
568
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,200
to put him on a
flight to Switzerland
569
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,160
for a school skiing trip.
570
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800
He was away for ten days.
There will be school records.
571
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,160
He could have driven back
down there once he got back.
572
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,720
By which time the police
and half the world's press
573
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
were in Middenham,
so I don't think so.
574
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,120
But, listen, we're not
hiding anymore.
575
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440
He's here, to answer your questions.
So ask him.
576
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,720
But...
577
00:33:40,177 --> 00:33:43,057
I think he did just hit a deer
that night.
578
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,400
And by me... enabling him
579
00:33:48,997 --> 00:33:51,637
to not face up to his
responsibilities...
580
00:33:55,201 --> 00:33:57,121
..I've messed up his whole life.
581
00:34:00,505 --> 00:34:02,745
For absolutely no reason at all.
582
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,073
So, I'm gonna stay
in the van tonight,
583
00:34:11,174 --> 00:34:13,774
because I want you to have
the time you need,
584
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,120
you know, to absorb everything.
585
00:34:17,152 --> 00:34:20,152
And when might the police know,
do you think...
586
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,400
..that you're not a suspect anymore?
587
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,360
I don't know.
588
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,776
But if it's worth me saying
one more time,
589
00:34:30,874 --> 00:34:32,474
you know, it wasn't me.
590
00:34:32,698 --> 00:34:35,978
Not Hayley Reid, not the
credit card stuff, not anything.
591
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,880
And sometimes...
592
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,160
we have to, you must know this,
593
00:34:42,598 --> 00:34:44,558
we have to accept that...
594
00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:47,929
..that life can be just random,
595
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,680
and cruel,
596
00:34:50,135 --> 00:34:53,560
before being,
in the blink of an eye,
597
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,600
just as randomly wonderful.
598
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,600
SHE SOBS
599
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,760
DOOR CLOSES
600
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,560
CAR LOCK CLICKS
601
00:35:23,581 --> 00:35:24,741
Eliot?
602
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,320
D'you wanna fuck off, Dad?
603
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,312
He's right, I'm afraid.
604
00:35:39,004 --> 00:35:40,882
Within five days
of her disappearance
605
00:35:40,969 --> 00:35:42,369
Middenham was crawling with police,
606
00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:45,663
there were search parties,
choppers with cameras, road blocks,
607
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:47,440
if she was murdered in Middenham,
608
00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:50,827
it was always my belief she had to
have been moved within a day or so.
609
00:35:51,382 --> 00:35:52,720
KNOCK ON DOOR
610
00:35:52,762 --> 00:35:53,843
Sorry.
611
00:35:54,038 --> 00:35:55,518
They're looking at
their records now,
612
00:35:55,648 --> 00:35:57,928
but the teacher I spoke to
remembers the skiing trip well
613
00:35:57,979 --> 00:35:59,546
and remembers Eliot being on it,
614
00:35:59,655 --> 00:36:01,615
because he was such
a pain in the arse.
615
00:36:02,010 --> 00:36:03,164
Right.
616
00:36:03,260 --> 00:36:05,380
And Nigel Farndale's here.
617
00:36:05,866 --> 00:36:06,913
Thanks.
618
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,160
Did you talk to the son?
Uh, briefly.
619
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,160
And?
My sense was
620
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,440
he is telling the truth.
621
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920
So for now we're
letting them both go.
622
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,720
I better speak to
this Farndale bloke.
623
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400
Yeah, I better push off.
No, thank you for coming in.
624
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,640
No worries.
625
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,520
Uh, look, I'm probably gonna head
back down to Hampshire tomorrow,
626
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,280
so...
Right.
627
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560
But, erm... can I call you?
628
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,040
I don't know if this is a good idea,
right now, John.
629
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440
I've just got so much...
630
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,360
..c-crap on, right now,
that I need to sort out.
631
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,880
And... I'm not sure starting, uh...
632
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,080
It wouldn't be fair on you.
633
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,880
Sorry.
634
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,560
I'll call you, then.
635
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,760
I mean, we all lived together
for 10, 11 years, Mum,
636
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
we never saw him
do anything like...
637
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,480
You know, the photos, were they even
you, or was it make-up, or...?
638
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,000
I dunno.
639
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Help me out here,
cos I'm struggling.
640
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Well...
641
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,960
you're not struggling, Em,
or you wouldn't be here.
642
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,400
You wouldn't have driven five hours
just to ask!
643
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Listen, I know I shouldn't
have asked for the money,
644
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040
it was stupid, but it was the
first time in nearly 30 years
645
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,960
I felt like I had the upper hand.
646
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,400
And I got a little giddy.
647
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Although...
648
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,480
..for what it's worth,
he never did pay the settlement.
649
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,680
These are the letters
from my lawyer to his.
650
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,080
I instructed mine
to stop fighting in 2005,
651
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,560
after your father put his hands
around my neck, at our old house,
652
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,080
and threatened to kill me.
653
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Of course you and Clare never saw
stuff, I did everything I could
654
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,080
to keep it from you both.
655
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,720
As did he.
656
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,040
For different reasons, obviously.
657
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,040
But that takes its toll,
658
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200
sweetheart, living that lie.
659
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,840
To keep smiling, as you told me
about all your fun times with him.
660
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,280
The lovely holidays with him.
661
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,240
When I knew... what he really was.
662
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520
It took its toll on me,
663
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,080
and in turn, my problems
served his deception well.
664
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,960
The photos were genuine, my love.
665
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,320
And you're here now
because some part of you,
666
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,280
some subconscious part,
667
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,040
has always known that
something was wrong.
668
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,760
And it gives me no pleasure at all
669
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,920
to tell you that you are right.
670
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Yes, she came to my house
that night.
671
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Mm-hm. And that was to buy?
672
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,160
In 2000, it would have been E's,
I'd imagine.
673
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,480
You didn't think to mention this
to the police at the time?
674
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000
I had a house full of gear!
675
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,880
I knew I hadn't done anything wrong,
so...
676
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,200
But, yeah, I'm sorry. I should have.
677
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,320
Do you remember what time
she arrived?
678
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Would have been about...
twenty past eleven.
679
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,840
How do you remember so specifically?
680
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,320
Cos we chatted a bit, maybe
ten minutes, then we left together.
681
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,960
I went to a party in Alcross, which
is about half an hour aways,
682
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,320
and I remember I got there
just as Big Ben was chiming.
683
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,320
And when she left, did she say
where she was going?
684
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800
She said straight to her party.
685
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,240
Erm, can you...
686
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,560
show me where you were living,
in 1999?
687
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,880
So, if what he's saying is true,
688
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,760
then to get from the Farndales
to the party house,
689
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,680
there's absolutely no reason
for her to be passing the church.
690
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,720
Or where Eliot Hollis was
spotted driving the car.
691
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,080
Which would seem to suggest
James Hollis
692
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,240
is telling the truth,
693
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
as was Peter Carr.
694
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,240
Yeah.
695
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,720
As she walked from here to here,
696
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,200
if she encountered anyone,
697
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,760
the more likely it would be
Chris Lowe or Tim Finch.
698
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,200
And I've just come off the phone
to West End Central,
699
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080
who have detailed records of the
credit card investigation into Lowe,
700
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,640
which they themselves now admit,
701
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,280
with hindsight,
702
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,880
was flawed.
703
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
So he didn't just hire good lawyers?
704
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,720
On balance, they think not.
705
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360
They think he should never
have been charged.
706
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,560
That doesn't mean we eliminate him
as a suspect, of course,
707
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,560
but for now, I think we should
concentrate our fire elsewhere.
708
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,520
And some, erm,
slightly better news here.
709
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,280
Yesterday we got in touch with DVLA
to see if any of our
710
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,600
four main suspects
had any endorsements
711
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,880
for the days after New Year.
712
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520
And my thinking was,
713
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120
you have a dead body in your boot,
714
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,760
you might be driving
a little faster than normal.
715
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,920
So here is a copy of Tim Finch's
driving license endorsements,
716
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,600
going back 35 years.
717
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520
There's four speeding offences
on there, which is kinda normal.
718
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,880
Except for the date
of the second one.
719
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Shit!
720
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,720
The 3rd of January, 2000.
721
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,600
That's the day after
he got back to London.
722
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,520
D'you know where he got it?
Not yet.
723
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,880
They're gonna get back to us.
724
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,880
But that... is a tickle.
725
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,280
That's definitely a tickle.
726
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,360
PHONE RINGS
727
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000
DI Khan.
'Have you got a pen?'
728
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Yes, yes, I have, yep.
729
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,520
'6:20am, A405 South.'
730
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,440
That is so helpful,
thank you so much.
731
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Ticket was issued at 6:20am
on the A405. Which is where?
732
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,400
Six miles outside of Middenham.
733
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Was he heading to, or from?
734
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,200
From.
735
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,720
KNOCK ON DOOR
736
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,960
Timothy Finch, I'm arresting you
on suspicion of the murder
737
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,360
of Hayley Reid.
738
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,800
You do not have to say anything,
739
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,160
but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention now
740
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,840
something you later
rely on in court.
741
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,560
As you're being arrested, we have
authority to search your premises
742
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,840
under Section 32 of the
Police And Criminal Evidence Act.
743
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Would you like to get dressed,
please?
744
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Why were you on the road
out of Middenham,
745
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,120
heading to London,
746
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,240
at... 6:20am,
747
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,960
the day after
you'd returned to London?
748
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,080
I'd left my laptop in the house
and drove back down to pick it up.
749
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880
I left very early because
I wanted to be back in time
750
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,120
for morning surgery.
751
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800
And you'd arranged this
with the lettings agency?
752
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Yes.
They've made no mention of that.
753
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560
Well, what d'you want me to say?
I arranged it.
754
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,760
Who'd you speak to?
755
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,440
I don't remember, it's...
756
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,320
nearly 20 years ago, erm...
757
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,800
a bloke, I think.
758
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,920
And, what, he took you round there,
did he?
759
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,640
At 6am?
760
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000
No, he left the key,
under a flowerpot.
761
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Apparently the house was vacant
that week,
762
00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:59,360
and he said to just let myself in.
763
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,240
So why were you speeding?
764
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,496
It had taken longer that
I thought to get down there.
765
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,360
I was running late.
KNOCK ON DOOR
766
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,800
For the purposes of the interview,
DC Collier has entered the room.
767
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,360
Sorry to interrupt, Ma'am.
Can I have a quick word?
768
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Excuse me.
769
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,280
Interview suspended at 8:31.
RECORDER BEEPS
770
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,840
In his cellar, behind
a thousand boxes of junk,
771
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,960
we found one of those old, like,
money box type things.
772
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,040
And when we got it open,
we found these.
773
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,080
A necklace, with hair
still attached to the clasp,
774
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:39,690
a scrunchie...
775
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,880
..and a pair of knickers.
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