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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,860 SIREN BLARES Over here! 2 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:07,900 Well, we all mess up, we're all fallible, 3 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:10,495 we've all done things of which we are ashamed. 4 00:02:10,885 --> 00:02:13,018 The trick in life, I think... 5 00:02:13,340 --> 00:02:14,460 is knowing which things 6 00:02:14,566 --> 00:02:17,229 we should forgive ourselves for, and which not. 7 00:02:17,557 --> 00:02:20,100 Except I'm not sure it really is that. 8 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:23,540 Suspect is a white male, mid-40s, wearing a navy top 9 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:25,020 and a grey baseball cap. 10 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:26,740 Last seen walking toward Burleigh Road, 11 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:29,100 witnesses said he had a knife in his hand. Over. 12 00:02:29,140 --> 00:02:30,820 I think a part of me wonders 13 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:34,180 if I'm just coming to a natural conclusion here. 14 00:02:34,340 --> 00:02:37,175 I've been doing this for... 28 years? 15 00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:41,180 There are other things to do in life. 16 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:44,817 Not like this. 17 00:02:45,139 --> 00:02:47,259 So why did you retire? 18 00:02:47,284 --> 00:02:49,955 I didn't retire. I was A19-ed. 19 00:02:50,144 --> 00:02:52,144 In the cutbacks. Ah. 20 00:02:52,282 --> 00:02:55,202 The truth is, what I did, what you still do, 21 00:02:55,682 --> 00:02:58,955 when you lose it, you realise what a privilege it was. 22 00:02:59,135 --> 00:03:00,430 To be able to help people, 23 00:03:00,485 --> 00:03:02,645 often at the very worst moment of their lives, 24 00:03:02,687 --> 00:03:04,967 to find faith in the world again. 25 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:08,745 Cos I genuinely believe that's a big part of what we do. 26 00:03:09,003 --> 00:03:11,568 Restore a little shape, a little order, 27 00:03:11,593 --> 00:03:13,273 a little meaning to the world. 28 00:03:13,714 --> 00:03:16,794 I mean, not so much on traffic duty, but, erm... 29 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:26,307 And obviously Naked Gun. Yeah, oh, say, Naked Gun. 30 00:03:26,356 --> 00:03:27,356 Midnight Run? 31 00:03:27,392 --> 00:03:29,760 Oh, man, Midnight Run. Yep. Definitely. 32 00:03:29,858 --> 00:03:31,417 And Fargo would be on there. 33 00:03:31,441 --> 00:03:33,321 "You're darn tootin'!" "OK, hun!" 34 00:03:33,396 --> 00:03:34,636 BOTH CHUCKLE 35 00:03:35,116 --> 00:03:38,057 His BP and stats are very low now. 36 00:03:38,452 --> 00:03:40,572 Get me four units of red cells... 37 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:44,340 Well, that was a great evening, thank you. 38 00:03:45,438 --> 00:03:47,838 I'd really like to do it again sometime. 39 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:50,239 Yeah, me too. 40 00:03:50,871 --> 00:03:52,791 All right, this is me. 41 00:03:56,980 --> 00:03:59,860 HE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY 42 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:01,300 Well, anyway... 43 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:03,820 ..good night, then. 44 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:09,380 Good night. 45 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:16,100 MOBILE RINGS 46 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:18,700 Yes, it went very well, and no, I didn't snog him. 47 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:20,900 Sorry, boss, that's not what I was ringing about. 48 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:23,380 What? Pete Carr. 49 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:26,260 He's been attacked outside his office. Stabbed. 50 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:27,580 Oh, no! 51 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:31,220 They say he's gonna be OK, but... 52 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:34,060 No, no! 53 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:49,780 He still had the knife on him when they nicked him. 54 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:51,100 Who was he? 55 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:52,780 Some local nutjob. 56 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:54,380 Links to far-right groups, 57 00:04:54,580 --> 00:04:56,820 got geed up by all the online paedophile stuff. 58 00:04:57,020 --> 00:05:00,140 So we go after all those... fuckers. Absolutely. 59 00:05:11,620 --> 00:05:15,580 She's exaggerating. Tim and I were out for about 45 minutes, 60 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:17,020 and Pete just went down the pub. 61 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:18,140 And Chris Lowe? 62 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:20,396 I don't know where Chris went, you'd have to ask him. 63 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:23,180 But you accept you were all out of the house 64 00:05:23,380 --> 00:05:25,820 at various points between 9pm and midnight? 65 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:27,900 Yes. So why did you lie? 66 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,580 I would have thought that had become blindingly obvious. 67 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:32,380 I thought there was a very good chance 68 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:34,140 anything I told you would be leaked, 69 00:05:34,340 --> 00:05:36,540 and given my best friend is now in intensive care, 70 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:37,900 entirely because of you, 71 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:39,980 I think I had pretty good reason to be nervous. 72 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:46,500 Can we move on to your car, Mr Hollis? 73 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:49,700 Which, in fact, matches exactly the description 74 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:52,860 of a car seen driving erratically at approximately 12:20am 75 00:05:53,060 --> 00:05:54,900 on the morning that Hayley went missing. 76 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:57,260 And how many dark saloons with trailer bars 77 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:58,980 would there be in the Hardy area? 78 00:05:59,180 --> 00:06:00,700 We didn't ask your opinion, Miss Gray. 79 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:02,260 Although she's right. 80 00:06:02,460 --> 00:06:05,260 But I suspect even my ex-wife will confirm I was in the house 81 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:06,900 in bed at 12:20am. 82 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:14,780 How old was your son... 83 00:06:15,780 --> 00:06:17,740 ..that New Year's Eve, James? 84 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:20,460 How old was Eliot? 85 00:06:22,540 --> 00:06:23,820 15. 86 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:27,700 Actually, only a few weeks off 16, I believe. 87 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:31,700 And sadly, quite a troubled young man, it seems. 88 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:34,140 Already arrested twice, 89 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:35,700 for possession of cannabis, 90 00:06:35,860 --> 00:06:37,740 once for ecstasy, 91 00:06:37,940 --> 00:06:41,220 and just one month before New Year's Eve 1999, 92 00:06:41,420 --> 00:06:44,220 for stealing his dad's car and driving it whilst drunk. 93 00:06:44,420 --> 00:06:46,580 Which is why I have to ask you, James... 94 00:06:48,140 --> 00:06:50,380 ..did Eliot take your car that night? 95 00:06:50,540 --> 00:06:51,900 No. 96 00:06:52,060 --> 00:06:54,180 Maybe he came across Hayley, 97 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:57,220 maybe hitch-hiking somewhere, picked her up? 98 00:06:57,420 --> 00:07:00,700 Something happened between them, something went wrong... 99 00:07:00,860 --> 00:07:02,380 Eliot's never hurt a fly. 100 00:07:02,540 --> 00:07:03,900 Maybe it was an accident. 101 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:06,260 The car was seen to be driving erratically. 102 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:09,540 Maybe he was drunk, maybe he knocked her down, it was a dark, wet night. 103 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:11,540 But in either instance, 104 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:12,820 you found out. 105 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:15,180 And agreed to drive the body back up to London 106 00:07:15,220 --> 00:07:17,500 to obscure your son's involvement. 107 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:19,660 The idea that I would drive the dead body 108 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:22,020 of a young girl my son had killed, to London, 109 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:23,700 is... 110 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:27,620 as absurd as it is abhorrent. 111 00:07:27,820 --> 00:07:30,300 Then can we ask you why, when we first interviewed you, 112 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:32,860 you referred to your son as a "little boy"? 113 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:36,620 A turn of phrase. Really? 114 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:38,020 We think it was deliberate. 115 00:07:38,220 --> 00:07:41,100 We think that you didn't want us to even consider the idea 116 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:43,860 that there was effectively another adult in the house that night. 117 00:07:43,940 --> 00:07:44,940 I don't want my client 118 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:47,500 answering any more questions about his son. 119 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:49,700 So unless you have any actual evidence, 120 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:52,540 rather than shot-in-the-dark theories, I think we're done here. 121 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:55,700 OK. 122 00:08:01,260 --> 00:08:02,540 Henry. 123 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:08,460 We spoke to Maria. Pete's conscious and talking. 124 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:13,420 Stay strong, fella, stay strong. Yeah, you too. 125 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:19,540 It was stupid, and I apologise. 126 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,100 A case of misguided loyalty. 127 00:08:22,260 --> 00:08:24,140 Misguided loyalty to who? 128 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:26,820 Jamie. 129 00:08:27,020 --> 00:08:30,660 He rang us all after he'd first been interviewed by you, 130 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:34,820 and he said he told you that we all stayed in that night. 131 00:08:36,340 --> 00:08:39,460 The inference I took was that we should all say the same. 132 00:08:39,660 --> 00:08:41,620 Why do you think he wanted you to lie? 133 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:45,580 At first I thought it was because of his profile 134 00:08:45,780 --> 00:08:48,100 that he didn't want the press latching onto him. 135 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:51,620 And, yeah, I was happy to go along with that, 136 00:08:51,660 --> 00:08:54,260 because I didn't for a nanosecond believe there was any... 137 00:08:55,980 --> 00:08:57,780 ..darker motive. 138 00:08:59,220 --> 00:09:02,220 Except then yesterday Pete rang me. 139 00:09:02,380 --> 00:09:03,740 Pete Carr. 140 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:08,180 And he told me something about Jamie's son. 141 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:10,050 Told you what? 142 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:14,540 He said he'd seen Eliot climbing into the house 143 00:09:15,097 --> 00:09:16,820 through a first-floor window 144 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:19,540 at around two in the morning on New Year's Day. 145 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:28,237 OK, so where are we with Eliot Hollis? 146 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:29,740 Still looking for him. 147 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:31,020 But for what it's worth, 148 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:33,100 I just pulled this off an online employment site 149 00:09:33,220 --> 00:09:34,580 which he signed up to in 2007, 150 00:09:34,780 --> 00:09:37,237 when he was living in the States with his dad. 151 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:40,776 It details holiday work on a building site in the UK, so... 152 00:09:41,245 --> 00:09:44,620 OK. Let's check James Hollis's car, 153 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:46,820 the BMW, I wanna see its service history. 154 00:09:46,846 --> 00:09:49,213 Maybe speak to the ex again, check their bank statements, 155 00:09:49,238 --> 00:09:50,318 insurance companies. 156 00:09:50,365 --> 00:09:52,765 I want to know if the car had any bodywork repairs done 157 00:09:52,797 --> 00:09:55,117 in the months immediately after Hayley died. 158 00:09:59,735 --> 00:10:01,960 I just wanna say I'm sorry, Pete. 159 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:06,140 I was angry, and... shocked... 160 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:10,340 ..but I also know in my heart you're a good man. 161 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:15,124 Yeah, you've done some silly things, we both know that, but... 162 00:10:17,540 --> 00:10:18,700 ..you're a good man. 163 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:22,140 And I want you to hear that I know that. 164 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:28,420 Basically, I think Hayley used a sort of code, 165 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:30,020 in her diary, 166 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:31,860 I'm guessing for if her mum read it, 167 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:34,020 so she wouldn't know what she was referring to. 168 00:10:34,180 --> 00:10:36,300 So, first up, 169 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:39,220 when she has sex, I think she calls it "tea". 170 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:41,700 And then, and I think this is actually more important, 171 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:44,980 when she says she had some cake, I think she's saying she took drugs. 172 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:47,140 So this is just a small selection 173 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:50,260 of the times these words appear, but you can see a clear pattern. 174 00:10:50,460 --> 00:10:52,900 "Great cake at Marly's, then went shopping, a very nice trip." 175 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:56,140 "Went clubbing in Portsmouth, ate cake, up till six." 176 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:59,100 "Had tea and cake with Ade, his birthday present to me, 177 00:10:59,260 --> 00:11:01,020 "just what I always wanted." 178 00:11:01,220 --> 00:11:03,660 The reason I think this is significant 179 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:04,820 is this reference here. 180 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:08,340 This is dated two days before she disappeared. 181 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:11,020 And here, she says, "G's gonna get us some cake 182 00:11:11,180 --> 00:11:13,420 "for the New Year party." 183 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:17,420 I think this is why she left work earlier, 184 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:18,980 I think G's is where she was going. 185 00:11:19,140 --> 00:11:23,140 Dealer, maybe? Or friend who was selling her some gear. 186 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:24,700 Erm... 187 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:27,340 I mean, it might explain how she could have been 188 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:29,100 in the vicinity of the Spinney, 189 00:11:29,300 --> 00:11:31,860 which from the pub, is the opposite direction to the party. 190 00:11:33,940 --> 00:11:36,060 Nice work, Fran. 191 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:38,420 OK, can we liaise with Hampshire Police 192 00:11:38,580 --> 00:11:39,820 on local drug dealers, 193 00:11:39,980 --> 00:11:41,660 then and now? 194 00:11:41,820 --> 00:11:43,700 But really good work, Fran. 195 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:46,740 Thanks, guys. 196 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:49,180 Shall we? 197 00:11:49,340 --> 00:11:51,260 Miller, hi, it's me. 198 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:55,220 Erm... I'm sorry I haven't rung before, 199 00:11:55,260 --> 00:11:58,300 but I just needed some time on my own to think things through. 200 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:01,180 And I wanted to say... 201 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:07,060 ..don't believe what you might hear about me from the police. 202 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:08,780 I'm not a bad man. 203 00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:11,260 I made some mistakes but I'm not a bad man. 204 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:29,740 So, why did you lie, Christopher? 205 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:34,900 I lied, erm... because from the moment Hayley Reid went missing 206 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:36,660 I sort of believed that at some point 207 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:39,180 someone would knock on my door wanting to blame me. 208 00:12:41,020 --> 00:12:43,980 Which... I believed for a number of reasons. 209 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:46,620 None of which include me having anything to do with her death. 210 00:12:46,740 --> 00:12:51,380 Erm... in late December 1999... 211 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:55,220 ..I was in a bad way, mentally. 212 00:12:55,420 --> 00:12:58,980 I was in the manic phase, I know now, of a bipolar episode. 213 00:13:00,140 --> 00:13:03,060 Exacerbated by over-work, and by a personal event 214 00:13:03,220 --> 00:13:04,620 that had... 215 00:13:04,780 --> 00:13:06,700 profoundly traumatised me. 216 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:09,580 And on New Year's Eve, 217 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:12,660 in addition to me idiotically taking some cocaine, 218 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:14,780 it overwhelmed me. 219 00:13:14,940 --> 00:13:16,660 And I became very unwell. 220 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:22,420 I think I ended up leaving the house, and just, just walking, 221 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:24,940 eh, I dunno where, 222 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:26,900 for a couple of hours. 223 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:29,780 And then finally, when I returned, I was exhausted 224 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:31,460 and I fell asleep almost immediately, 225 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:32,780 and then the next day... 226 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:36,260 ..news started to filter through 227 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:38,620 about this missing local girl, and... 228 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:43,540 ..because of this personal thing that had happened, 229 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:46,300 and I suppose to a degree because of my poor mental health, 230 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:50,740 I became... obsessed that the police would come for me, 231 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:52,900 that a knock on the door was imminent. 232 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:55,540 But it-it-it didn't actually come. 233 00:13:55,740 --> 00:13:58,780 Not that day, nor the next, or the day after. It didn't come. 234 00:13:58,980 --> 00:14:01,140 But, erm... I never stopped waiting for it. 235 00:14:02,860 --> 00:14:05,380 So, when you finally showed up, DCI Stuart, 236 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:07,860 in my head I went straight back to those first days 237 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:09,580 after Hayley Reid went missing, 238 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:11,740 I felt the same fear, the same panic, 239 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:12,980 and yeah, I lied. 240 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:14,900 I lied about where I was that night. 241 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:18,940 That is all that I lied about, because I swear, I-I... 242 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:20,940 I didn't hurt Hayley Reid. 243 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:23,300 I never even met her. 244 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:27,220 And this event, that fed into your paranoia... 245 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:30,380 ..what was that? 246 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:32,380 Yeah, so, uh... 247 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:36,780 On October 12th 1999 I was arrested for credit card payments 248 00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:39,180 to online child sex abuse sites. 249 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:43,540 The card was a business one, which meant I was arrested at the office, 250 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:46,420 and the police told my business partner, Helen, 251 00:14:46,580 --> 00:14:48,260 because I sometimes visited 252 00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:50,940 commercial shoots involving children. 253 00:14:52,980 --> 00:14:54,780 She then told the board, 254 00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:57,620 and in January 2000, she told my wife. 255 00:14:58,940 --> 00:15:01,500 Two months later, when I was charged, the board sacked me. 256 00:15:01,660 --> 00:15:03,500 Then my wife filed for divorce. 257 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:07,260 So, within four months of my arrest... 258 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:11,140 ..yeah, I lost, erm... 259 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,460 I lost everything. 260 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:15,140 Everything I loved. 261 00:15:16,820 --> 00:15:19,580 My wife, Laura, and my career. 262 00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:23,500 My... CHOKES UP 263 00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:28,140 My beautiful daughter. 264 00:15:30,580 --> 00:15:33,660 Yeah. Yeah, my life just pretty much collapsed. 265 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,180 But here's the thing, 266 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:39,540 it wasn't me. 267 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:43,300 The credit card payments, I didn't make them. 268 00:15:44,980 --> 00:15:48,380 My life had been ruined, and I was completely, 100% innocent. 269 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,140 And do you happen to remember who packed the trailer? 270 00:15:57,340 --> 00:16:00,460 Jesus! You don't think...? Do you? 271 00:16:02,180 --> 00:16:05,460 I always used to pack the bags, and... 272 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:07,940 James always used to put them in the trailer. 273 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:11,700 OK. And your car, a BMW 3 series, I believe? 274 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,700 Yeah. Do you recall if it sustained any damage over that break? 275 00:16:15,820 --> 00:16:18,300 You think it was a car accident? Do you? 276 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:31,420 Mrs Hollis? 277 00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:33,940 He said he'd hit a deer. 278 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:38,020 Your husband? Yes, my husband. Who else? 279 00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:42,900 Why don't you take a look at these photos, and this floor plan... 280 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:49,860 ..and tell me if you can remember which bedroom 281 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:52,020 you and your husband slept in, 282 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:54,020 which bedroom your friends slept in, 283 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,300 and which your son. 284 00:16:56,700 --> 00:16:58,380 No. 285 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:03,020 My card details, like those 286 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:05,900 of hundreds of other completely innocent people 287 00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:07,140 were cloned. 288 00:17:07,340 --> 00:17:11,540 Of course, I protested my innocence, I told them, "This is crazy. 289 00:17:11,580 --> 00:17:15,020 "I've never visited these sites, it's absurd, a mistake." 290 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:18,340 But I was charged. 291 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:19,860 And then... 292 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:25,100 ..then suddenly I was living alone in a depressing flat in Acton. 293 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:28,740 And my trial date had not been set. 294 00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:34,460 I managed to salvage some money from my separation, and I found a lawyer, 295 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:36,060 and we hired a team of investigators 296 00:17:36,140 --> 00:17:38,540 to prove that the sites paid for were never actually visited, 297 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:41,180 they proved that when the payments were made, 298 00:17:41,380 --> 00:17:44,100 allegedly from my work computer, I was abroad. 299 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:47,460 And so in 2003, finally, 300 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:48,620 the charges were dropped 301 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:50,780 and I was granted a record deletion application 302 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:52,820 in 2004. 303 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:55,100 By this time Laura had remarried, 304 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:56,180 and I hadn't seen her, 305 00:17:56,380 --> 00:17:58,940 or been allowed to see my daughter, for three years. 306 00:17:59,140 --> 00:18:01,860 I was living in shelters, or on the streets, 307 00:18:02,060 --> 00:18:05,340 without access to the medication I needed. 308 00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:08,940 LAUGHS The idea of just turning up, 309 00:18:09,140 --> 00:18:12,340 and persuading them I hadn't somehow bought my innocence... 310 00:18:15,580 --> 00:18:17,340 ..yeah, that was beyond me. 311 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:22,100 So I had to try and begin to accept what had happened to me, 312 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:23,340 this awful injustice, 313 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,580 this catastrophic unfairness. 314 00:18:26,740 --> 00:18:28,620 To try... to try and... 315 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:30,060 rebuild a life. 316 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:34,780 You know, which sounds simpler than it actually was, 317 00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:35,940 because I was homeless, 318 00:18:36,140 --> 00:18:38,740 in and out of temporary accommodation for six more years... 319 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:44,740 ..before Tim... CHOKES UP 320 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:47,220 ..my friend, Tim, 321 00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:49,500 he finally tracked me down, 322 00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:52,700 bought me my first van, in 2010, 323 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:55,860 then I began to live again, rather than just exist. 324 00:18:56,060 --> 00:18:59,020 Then one week ago, you turn up, and ask a man who has lost everything, 325 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,100 through, what, just simple bad luck, 326 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:05,940 someone... someone who knows what can happen, 327 00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:07,940 and you ask him where he was that night. 328 00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:13,500 Yeah, so, that's why I lied. 329 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:15,780 That. 330 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:18,820 (That.) 331 00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:22,460 James Hollis's ex remembers his son slept in a box room. 332 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:24,780 The only box room in the house 333 00:19:24,980 --> 00:19:27,140 has a window that goes out onto a flat roof. 334 00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:28,700 Which supports Tim Finch's claim 335 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:30,780 that Pete Carr saw him seen climbing in at 2am. 336 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:32,420 Exactly. 337 00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:36,100 Yeah. PHONE RINGS 338 00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:37,380 Jake Collier. 339 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:41,660 She's in an interview at the moment, can I pass on a message? 340 00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:47,100 Hello, is it Maria? 341 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:49,140 SNIFFS Yeah. 342 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:51,660 Sorry, I was just having a quick nap. 343 00:19:51,860 --> 00:19:55,420 I'm Dr Walsh. I'm one of the doctors who's been looking after Peter. 344 00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:58,140 Oh, right. Yes. How's he doing? 345 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,460 (Shit.) 346 00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:12,500 D'you believe him? I dunno. 347 00:20:13,540 --> 00:20:14,940 Maybe. 348 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,580 You speak to the legal firm, 349 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,540 I'll try and track down the unit that investigated him. OK. 350 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:21,540 KNOCK ON DOOR Guv? 351 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,120 King's Lynn nick just rang. Peter Carr's died. 352 00:20:25,765 --> 00:20:27,605 Heart attack. 353 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,840 SOBBING 354 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760 PHONE RINGS 355 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,560 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 356 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,120 Mrs Carr, it's DCI Cassie Stuart. 357 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480 I just wanted to ring and say... how.. 358 00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:06,930 ..desperately sad I was... 359 00:21:09,212 --> 00:21:11,532 ..to hear about your husband's death. 360 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,440 DCI Stuart? DCI Stuart, have you got anything to say? 361 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,280 CAMERAS CLICK 362 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,440 ALL SHOUT What will you say to his family? 363 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,280 D'you blame yourself, DCI Stuart? 364 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,200 WINDOWS THUMPED 365 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,160 '..and as his wife comforts their two young sons tonight, 366 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:35,864 'I think the death of Mr Carr raises a number of important questions. 367 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,520 'Firstly, what new laws, if any, do we need, 368 00:21:39,844 --> 00:21:41,604 'in order to better restrict 369 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,145 'the sort of hateful social media campaign 370 00:21:44,184 --> 00:21:47,840 'that undoubtedly contributed towards his murder? 371 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,720 'And secondly, I think we need to ask how problematic it is 372 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,600 'that such major criminal investigations 373 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,070 'as this one, are increasingly being held under such a public gaze. 374 00:22:00,688 --> 00:22:03,760 'With police so far refusing to confirm 375 00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:06,834 'whether Peter Carr remained a suspect, 376 00:22:06,883 --> 00:22:09,828 'the parents of Hayley Reid must be asking themselves 377 00:22:09,930 --> 00:22:12,320 'the most painful question. 378 00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:15,559 'Has the killer of their beloved daughter 379 00:22:15,675 --> 00:22:19,995 'taken the secret of her final moments to his grave? 380 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,320 'This is Rohit Katru, outside Bishop's -' 381 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,440 DOOR CLOSES 382 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,720 Hey. 383 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,200 I just went out to grab a bag. I didn't forget to turn it off. 384 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,240 Dad - I just want to say that I've been... 385 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,880 ..thinking about what we were discussing the other day. 386 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,240 And I am genuinely sorry about what you are going through. 387 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,480 I'm fine. The problems at work 388 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,000 or whatever it is personally. 389 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040 My personal life is fine, too. 390 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,920 Of course... I'll always be there, you know? 391 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,880 To give you whatever I can, 392 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,240 whenever you need it. 393 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Wow. Well, thank you so much. 394 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,000 It's just that, erm... 395 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,120 ..well, at the moment I think it would be better for both of us 396 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,560 if I were to give you a bit of space. 397 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,920 So I think it's best if I move in with Jenny for a bit. 398 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,520 All right. 399 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,440 Anyway... 400 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840 it'll be a rehearsal for us, you know? 401 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,800 "Rehearsal." 402 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,920 I asked her last night if she'd marry me. 403 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,600 She said she would. 404 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,280 So, we'll probably... 405 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,040 buy somewhere together, next year. 406 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,920 Sorry, you mean, like, move in together? Cos you can't... 407 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,760 you can't buy somewhere together, can you? 408 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,360 Cos you're the only one with any money. 409 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,560 I never thought that we'd fall out about money. 410 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,720 I'll give you a call tomorrow. 411 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040 I love you, sweetheart. 412 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,560 Yeah! 413 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,600 DOOR CLOSES 414 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,200 I miss... us... 415 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,960 as a family. 416 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,240 I miss us all being together. 417 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,960 I miss you. 418 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,000 And I missed you, Aisha. 419 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,480 When you left for your soulmate. 420 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,200 D'you remember? 421 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,040 The girls missed you so much. 422 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,520 And I'm so sorry for that. 423 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,880 For all the mistakes I made, which I want to put right. 424 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,120 Now! 425 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720 It's too late. We've moved on. 426 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,000 I've moved on. 427 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,360 Then... 428 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840 you... love her, do you, 429 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,600 this... Sal? 430 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,760 Yes, I do. 431 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,800 And the girls, I mean... 432 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Surely we owe it to them to ask what they'd like? 433 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,560 "We"? 434 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280 Surely you can't deny them that. I mean, if they want it, 435 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,840 the chance for us all to be together again. 436 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,600 A proper family. 437 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320 You always said the girls came first. 438 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,160 But I never meant for anyone to actually DO anything! 439 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840 OK. 440 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,080 Can I read what your last post said? 441 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760 "For too long, paedophiles, rapists and murderers 442 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,960 "have been treated as if they were the victims. 443 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,240 "but enough is enough. 444 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,680 "If the government won't bring back the death penalty for such crimes, 445 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,600 "perhaps it's time for honest, law-abiding citizens, 446 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,080 "to take matters into their own hands." 447 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,520 And then you've put a picture of Peter Carr 448 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,920 with his work address, under the headline, "Monster". 449 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,560 But I never said to anyone to kill him! 450 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,960 So when you said it was time 451 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,440 for people to take matters into their own hands, 452 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,920 what did you mean, exactly? 453 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,640 I just wanted a job. 454 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720 I'm 27, and I have a degree in journalism 455 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800 that's cost me the best part of 50 grand. 456 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960 And I have never 457 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,120 had proper paid work in my chosen field, 458 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440 despite having written hundreds of job applications. 459 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,600 So I was just trying to... shock. 460 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Cos... that's what you need to do these days. 461 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Otherwise no-one hears you, no-one listens. 462 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,640 And if no-one listens, what are you? 463 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,360 You're no-one. 464 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480 In terms of the IPCC it's a mandatory referral. 465 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,800 I don't really have any choice. 466 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,880 And the case? 467 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240 The Reid family have reiterated their faith in you. 468 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240 For now, the case remains yours. 469 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,880 Thank you. 470 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,720 Oh, just ask the actual fucking question, Em, please. 471 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Look, I've got ten minutes before I'm due back, 472 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,840 and I really don't have time for endless, dreary euphemisms. 473 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,216 You don't have to get so unpleasant, Dad. Oh, you think? 474 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,800 It's just that, as your father, 475 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280 I thought you might already know the answer. 476 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,200 I'm sorry. 477 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,640 I'm very stressed by all of this. 478 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,560 But, no. 479 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,680 I never hit your mum. 480 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,200 Apologies, but I... have a two o'clock. 481 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440 And for the avoidance of any doubt, 482 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960 I'm not a psychopathic murderer, either. 483 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,400 Just pull the door to, when you leave. 484 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Love you. 485 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,360 DOOR CLOSES 486 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,280 Els? 487 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520 If you don't tell me the truth, Eliot, 488 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920 I can't continue to protect you. Like you have for the past 32 years? 489 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Protect me from what? Have you had a good look at me recently, Dad? 490 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960 Prison. And I will happily do that. 491 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,320 I will lie for you, and say I was driving that night. 492 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:38,720 But you have to tell me the truth. 493 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,400 I've already told you a million times. 494 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,920 I don't think so. 495 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Yes, I have. I was driving, I hit something, I don't know what. 496 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160 I went out to look for it and couldn't find anything. That's it. 497 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,680 No. Yes! Because you actually went back that night. 498 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,040 I what?! I think you actually found her, 499 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,080 and then you hid her, 500 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320 and then you went back to get her a few nights later. 501 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,640 What the fuck are you talking about? Tell me the truth, please, Eliot! 502 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,840 It's been 18 years, I need to hear it, now, I need to hear the truth! 503 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Where was she found? Oh, you KNOW where she was found! 504 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480 I don't! I've been using since you first called me! 505 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Where was she found? 506 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,120 Tell me, where was she found?! She was buried in London. 507 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,640 What? 508 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,560 (No.) 509 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,720 What? 510 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,120 DOG BARKS Come on! 511 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Good boy! 512 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,160 Wooh! DOG BARKS 513 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Boss. Yep. 514 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Uh, so, just got off the phone to Eastleigh nick, 515 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,360 which is the nearest one to Middenham, 516 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,040 so they've identified our 'G' as local drug dealer, 517 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,560 nickname 'Gandalf', 518 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,880 real name, Nigel Farndale. 519 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440 He's got a 30-year record of drug offences, so they're gonna 520 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680 pull him up and bring him straight in. OK. Thank you. 521 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600 James Hollis is downstairs, with his son. 522 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,840 For the past 18 years 523 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,520 I have believed that my son killed Hayley Reid. 524 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Because he did steal my car, he was drunk, 525 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,080 and when he got back home at two in the morning 526 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280 and I found him in his room in a terrible state, 527 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,840 he told me that he'd hit something. 528 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,600 He said that he'd got out to see what it was, 529 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,360 but couldn't find anything. 530 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,840 And although his gut instinct told him that it was just an animal... 531 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,920 ..he was also very scared... 532 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,960 ..that it might be a person. 533 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Which fear grew, when the next day 534 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,160 news that Hayley Reid was missing started to filter through. 535 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,240 And the fact they couldn't find her 536 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000 also, uh... fitted 537 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120 because the road he was on 538 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,480 was next to the river 539 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200 which had burst its banks following the heavy rain. 540 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Meaning we had to consider 541 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040 the awful possibility... 542 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040 ..that she had been knocked into the water, washed down the river, 543 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,680 and out to sea. 544 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440 And for 18 years 545 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,800 he and I have hidden that, uh... 546 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,320 dreadful secret, and I'm so, so sorry for that. 547 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,280 And then she was found. 548 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800 The nightmare should have been over. Except... 549 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800 INHALES SHARPLY ..instead of finally 550 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680 believing that he was innocent... 551 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,400 ..I started to believe that not only had he hit her, 552 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,720 but he'd actually found her, 553 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,240 and hidden her 554 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800 to drive back down a few days later, 555 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960 retrieve the body... and bury it in London. 556 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Oh, it, erm... 557 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,520 might seem a terrible thing to believe about your son. 558 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,520 But... 559 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,560 18 years of this... 560 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,520 toxic secret between us, and... 561 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,040 ..seeing the consequences of that in everything my son has become... 562 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800 ..has made my judgement bad. 563 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440 And how do you know he didn't do exactly what you've described? 564 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Because when I finally found him, just a few hours ago, 565 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,640 and talked to him properly 566 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,360 for the first time since Hayley had been found... 567 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,520 he reminded me that we drove back early on the 2nd, 568 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,200 to put him on a flight to Switzerland 569 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,160 for a school skiing trip. 570 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800 He was away for ten days. There will be school records. 571 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,160 He could have driven back down there once he got back. 572 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,720 By which time the police and half the world's press 573 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360 were in Middenham, so I don't think so. 574 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,120 But, listen, we're not hiding anymore. 575 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440 He's here, to answer your questions. So ask him. 576 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,720 But... 577 00:33:40,177 --> 00:33:43,057 I think he did just hit a deer that night. 578 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,400 And by me... enabling him 579 00:33:48,997 --> 00:33:51,637 to not face up to his responsibilities... 580 00:33:55,201 --> 00:33:57,121 ..I've messed up his whole life. 581 00:34:00,505 --> 00:34:02,745 For absolutely no reason at all. 582 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,073 So, I'm gonna stay in the van tonight, 583 00:34:11,174 --> 00:34:13,774 because I want you to have the time you need, 584 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,120 you know, to absorb everything. 585 00:34:17,152 --> 00:34:20,152 And when might the police know, do you think... 586 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,400 ..that you're not a suspect anymore? 587 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,360 I don't know. 588 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,776 But if it's worth me saying one more time, 589 00:34:30,874 --> 00:34:32,474 you know, it wasn't me. 590 00:34:32,698 --> 00:34:35,978 Not Hayley Reid, not the credit card stuff, not anything. 591 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,880 And sometimes... 592 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,160 we have to, you must know this, 593 00:34:42,598 --> 00:34:44,558 we have to accept that... 594 00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:47,929 ..that life can be just random, 595 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,680 and cruel, 596 00:34:50,135 --> 00:34:53,560 before being, in the blink of an eye, 597 00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,600 just as randomly wonderful. 598 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,600 SHE SOBS 599 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,760 DOOR CLOSES 600 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,560 CAR LOCK CLICKS 601 00:35:23,581 --> 00:35:24,741 Eliot? 602 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,320 D'you wanna fuck off, Dad? 603 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,312 He's right, I'm afraid. 604 00:35:39,004 --> 00:35:40,882 Within five days of her disappearance 605 00:35:40,969 --> 00:35:42,369 Middenham was crawling with police, 606 00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:45,663 there were search parties, choppers with cameras, road blocks, 607 00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:47,440 if she was murdered in Middenham, 608 00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:50,827 it was always my belief she had to have been moved within a day or so. 609 00:35:51,382 --> 00:35:52,720 KNOCK ON DOOR 610 00:35:52,762 --> 00:35:53,843 Sorry. 611 00:35:54,038 --> 00:35:55,518 They're looking at their records now, 612 00:35:55,648 --> 00:35:57,928 but the teacher I spoke to remembers the skiing trip well 613 00:35:57,979 --> 00:35:59,546 and remembers Eliot being on it, 614 00:35:59,655 --> 00:36:01,615 because he was such a pain in the arse. 615 00:36:02,010 --> 00:36:03,164 Right. 616 00:36:03,260 --> 00:36:05,380 And Nigel Farndale's here. 617 00:36:05,866 --> 00:36:06,913 Thanks. 618 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,160 Did you talk to the son? Uh, briefly. 619 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,160 And? My sense was 620 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,440 he is telling the truth. 621 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920 So for now we're letting them both go. 622 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,720 I better speak to this Farndale bloke. 623 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400 Yeah, I better push off. No, thank you for coming in. 624 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,640 No worries. 625 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,520 Uh, look, I'm probably gonna head back down to Hampshire tomorrow, 626 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,280 so... Right. 627 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560 But, erm... can I call you? 628 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,040 I don't know if this is a good idea, right now, John. 629 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440 I've just got so much... 630 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,360 ..c-crap on, right now, that I need to sort out. 631 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,880 And... I'm not sure starting, uh... 632 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,080 It wouldn't be fair on you. 633 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,880 Sorry. 634 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,560 I'll call you, then. 635 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,760 I mean, we all lived together for 10, 11 years, Mum, 636 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160 we never saw him do anything like... 637 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,480 You know, the photos, were they even you, or was it make-up, or...? 638 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,000 I dunno. 639 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,040 Help me out here, cos I'm struggling. 640 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600 Well... 641 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,960 you're not struggling, Em, or you wouldn't be here. 642 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,400 You wouldn't have driven five hours just to ask! 643 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080 Listen, I know I shouldn't have asked for the money, 644 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040 it was stupid, but it was the first time in nearly 30 years 645 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,960 I felt like I had the upper hand. 646 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,400 And I got a little giddy. 647 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,120 Although... 648 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,480 ..for what it's worth, he never did pay the settlement. 649 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,680 These are the letters from my lawyer to his. 650 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,080 I instructed mine to stop fighting in 2005, 651 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,560 after your father put his hands around my neck, at our old house, 652 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,080 and threatened to kill me. 653 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,000 Of course you and Clare never saw stuff, I did everything I could 654 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,080 to keep it from you both. 655 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,720 As did he. 656 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,040 For different reasons, obviously. 657 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,040 But that takes its toll, 658 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200 sweetheart, living that lie. 659 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,840 To keep smiling, as you told me about all your fun times with him. 660 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,280 The lovely holidays with him. 661 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,240 When I knew... what he really was. 662 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520 It took its toll on me, 663 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,080 and in turn, my problems served his deception well. 664 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,960 The photos were genuine, my love. 665 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,320 And you're here now because some part of you, 666 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,280 some subconscious part, 667 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,040 has always known that something was wrong. 668 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,760 And it gives me no pleasure at all 669 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,920 to tell you that you are right. 670 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,400 Yes, she came to my house that night. 671 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680 Mm-hm. And that was to buy? 672 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,160 In 2000, it would have been E's, I'd imagine. 673 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,480 You didn't think to mention this to the police at the time? 674 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000 I had a house full of gear! 675 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,880 I knew I hadn't done anything wrong, so... 676 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,200 But, yeah, I'm sorry. I should have. 677 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,320 Do you remember what time she arrived? 678 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,160 Would have been about... twenty past eleven. 679 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,840 How do you remember so specifically? 680 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,320 Cos we chatted a bit, maybe ten minutes, then we left together. 681 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,960 I went to a party in Alcross, which is about half an hour aways, 682 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,320 and I remember I got there just as Big Ben was chiming. 683 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,320 And when she left, did she say where she was going? 684 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800 She said straight to her party. 685 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,240 Erm, can you... 686 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,560 show me where you were living, in 1999? 687 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,880 So, if what he's saying is true, 688 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,760 then to get from the Farndales to the party house, 689 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,680 there's absolutely no reason for her to be passing the church. 690 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,720 Or where Eliot Hollis was spotted driving the car. 691 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,080 Which would seem to suggest James Hollis 692 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,240 is telling the truth, 693 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560 as was Peter Carr. 694 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,240 Yeah. 695 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,720 As she walked from here to here, 696 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,200 if she encountered anyone, 697 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,760 the more likely it would be Chris Lowe or Tim Finch. 698 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,200 And I've just come off the phone to West End Central, 699 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080 who have detailed records of the credit card investigation into Lowe, 700 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,640 which they themselves now admit, 701 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,280 with hindsight, 702 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,880 was flawed. 703 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200 So he didn't just hire good lawyers? 704 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,720 On balance, they think not. 705 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360 They think he should never have been charged. 706 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,560 That doesn't mean we eliminate him as a suspect, of course, 707 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,560 but for now, I think we should concentrate our fire elsewhere. 708 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,520 And some, erm, slightly better news here. 709 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,280 Yesterday we got in touch with DVLA to see if any of our 710 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,600 four main suspects had any endorsements 711 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,880 for the days after New Year. 712 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520 And my thinking was, 713 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120 you have a dead body in your boot, 714 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,760 you might be driving a little faster than normal. 715 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,920 So here is a copy of Tim Finch's driving license endorsements, 716 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,600 going back 35 years. 717 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520 There's four speeding offences on there, which is kinda normal. 718 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,880 Except for the date of the second one. 719 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,640 Shit! 720 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,720 The 3rd of January, 2000. 721 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,600 That's the day after he got back to London. 722 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,520 D'you know where he got it? Not yet. 723 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,880 They're gonna get back to us. 724 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,880 But that... is a tickle. 725 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,280 That's definitely a tickle. 726 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,360 PHONE RINGS 727 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000 DI Khan. 'Have you got a pen?' 728 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,160 Yes, yes, I have, yep. 729 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,520 '6:20am, A405 South.' 730 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,440 That is so helpful, thank you so much. 731 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,360 Ticket was issued at 6:20am on the A405. Which is where? 732 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,400 Six miles outside of Middenham. 733 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,560 Was he heading to, or from? 734 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,200 From. 735 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,720 KNOCK ON DOOR 736 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,960 Timothy Finch, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder 737 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,360 of Hayley Reid. 738 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,800 You do not have to say anything, 739 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,160 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention now 740 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,840 something you later rely on in court. 741 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,560 As you're being arrested, we have authority to search your premises 742 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,840 under Section 32 of the Police And Criminal Evidence Act. 743 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,480 Would you like to get dressed, please? 744 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,080 Why were you on the road out of Middenham, 745 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,120 heading to London, 746 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,240 at... 6:20am, 747 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,960 the day after you'd returned to London? 748 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,080 I'd left my laptop in the house and drove back down to pick it up. 749 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880 I left very early because I wanted to be back in time 750 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,120 for morning surgery. 751 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800 And you'd arranged this with the lettings agency? 752 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,680 Yes. They've made no mention of that. 753 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560 Well, what d'you want me to say? I arranged it. 754 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,760 Who'd you speak to? 755 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,440 I don't remember, it's... 756 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,320 nearly 20 years ago, erm... 757 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,800 a bloke, I think. 758 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,920 And, what, he took you round there, did he? 759 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,640 At 6am? 760 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000 No, he left the key, under a flowerpot. 761 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,200 Apparently the house was vacant that week, 762 00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:59,360 and he said to just let myself in. 763 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,240 So why were you speeding? 764 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,496 It had taken longer that I thought to get down there. 765 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,360 I was running late. KNOCK ON DOOR 766 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,800 For the purposes of the interview, DC Collier has entered the room. 767 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,360 Sorry to interrupt, Ma'am. Can I have a quick word? 768 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680 Excuse me. 769 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,280 Interview suspended at 8:31. RECORDER BEEPS 770 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,840 In his cellar, behind a thousand boxes of junk, 771 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,960 we found one of those old, like, money box type things. 772 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,040 And when we got it open, we found these. 773 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,080 A necklace, with hair still attached to the clasp, 774 00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:39,690 a scrunchie... 775 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,880 ..and a pair of knickers. 58729

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