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- Lord Jesus Christ, in this admirable sacrament,
you left us the memorial of your passion.
Give us to worship of such a great love
the mystery of your body and your blood,
that we can collect constantly the fruit of your redemption.
You who reigns for centuries and centuries.
Amen.
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Piano
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- You have to go there! - I finish my page.
- Marie!
My name is Alexandre Guérin. I'm 40 years old, I'm a father of 5,
educated to Lazarists in Lyon where my wife teaches.
- Gaspard. - Victor, Gautier.
- I have been in conflict for a long time with the Church,
but I keep an intimate touch with the love of Christ
and I raise my children in the faith of His love.
I met the father from a comrade of my children.
Like me, he was the Scouts of St. Luke.
We remembered our memories
and he asked me this question:
"You too, Father Preynat fiddled with you? "
It is this discussion which allowed me to write to you.
I will be direct: during 2 years,
Scouts, between my 9th and 12th grade,
I suffered touching of priest Bernard Preynat.
After a camp
where the Father tried to force me to masturbate him, I fled the scouts.
- LORD,
I AM NOT WORTHY TO RECEIVE YOU
BUT ONLY ONE WORD AND I WILL BE HEALED.
choirs
...
- The body of Christ.
...
- Amen.
...
- The body
of Christ. - Amen.
Unfortunately, I discover a month ago, by chance,
that Father Preynat returned in the Lyon area
and that he intervened for the pastoral care of some colleges.
Even though I was able to forgive what I could
and that his trace will accompany me all my life,
many questions haunt me: did you know?
Has he had any sanctions? Was he sentenced?
Why is he taking care of more children?
Do not be afraid to be afraid for our children.
Respectfully, Alexandre Guérin.
- Sir, Pierre Durieux sent me your message.
Terrible testimony.
We understand that you needed time to write it.
Thank you for your trust.
I think of your children and your family.
May none of them suffer consequences of these acts.
We gave you the coordinates from Mme Régine Maire
who receives those who have lived such suffering because of a priest.
May the Lord enlighten us
and that He heals what needs to be in his Church.
Philippe Barbarin.
- The Saturday, he took me to the photo room,
on the right, at the top of the stairs.
It was dark, quiet.
He closed the door, took me in his arms.
He passed his hand in my shorts. I was not moving.
He held me tight. Very strong.
He kissed me in the neck. He was rubbing against my leg.
He said, "I love you."
Afterwards, he said, "This is our secret." in a benevolent tone.
Then I found the others.
oddly, I was proud to be the Father's elect.
Everyone said:
"He is exceptional. If all the men of the Church
"were like him." - It lasted a long time?
- Until Portugal, in 1986.
It was an organized summer camp by Father Bernard every year.
There, I tried to avoid it.
I found pretexts to not be near him
and avoid accompanying him.
Many times he asked me, but I found an excuse.
And there was the football tournament.
The camp was empty, the tents too.
At halftime, I went to get my medicine.
I have a chronic illness since the first abuse.
And here, Father Bernard follows me in my tent.
He lies down.
He lies down next to me and I feel his weight,
his big belly on me.
And it begins again. He kisses me with the tongue.
He's going down my fly, he puts his hand ...
He rubs himself. He is breathing hard.
He puts my hand on his sex.
There is no one but us and I feel it more urgent.
Excited.
Suddenly, I hear someone outside and I take advantage of it.
It's like a click.
I go out and I go back at the football field.
Sob
Excuse me.
- Thank you for being entrusted.
These things happened
and alas, they are still coming.
At the time, we were moving
the priests.
- Do you know Father Preynat? - By name, yes. Not personally.
Piano
- We take back.
...
Yes.
...
You continue.
...
So? - I told him everything.
- What did she say?
- Not much. She listened to me and we prayed.
- You have to talk to the kids.
- You think? - Yes. They asked me questions.
They see that you are concerned. Especially the big ones.
...
- I always had the impression that my family had abandoned me.
- Grandpa and Grandma have not abandoned you. - No.
But I blame them not to have protected me.
- That's why we did not do the scouts?
- Yeah ...
- You told them
papi and granny? - At 17 years old,
they listened to me but I felt that it did not interest them.
- They did not want to feel guilty. - Perhaps.
Barbarin proposed that I meet the priest
who abused me, but I do not know what to do.
- He will ask you to forgive?
- Yes maybe.
- You will do it?
- I do not know if it's possible.
- Why are you doing all this?
- So that it does not happen again.
And then for you: you will know that you must not
to be afraid to speak.
- Hello, Father. I met Alexander this summer.
I found a man without bitterness and in peace.
thanks for accepting to meet him because this will be factor
of peace and healing.
Would you like to contact him directly?
Do you come to Lyon?
Alexandre is often in Paris For his work.
Thank you for your reply. God bless your ministry.
Sincerely, Regine Mayor.
- Wash me of my faults and cleanse me of my sin.
- Hello Régine and thank you for your mediation.
I do not ask for better than to meet Alexander.
Is there two or three moments where would he be available?
I will come to Lyon then. It will take define a meeting place.
Or if he prefers me to contact him ... See that with him.
- It's Barbarin.
- Thank you for praying for me, Bernard.
- Alexandre, I had a positive answer from Bernard Preynat.
He wants you to offer him
two or three moments where it would be possible for you.
For the place, it could be the house diocesan where we saw each other.
Regine Mayor.
- Good news, even if it's a little stressful.
I find two or three dates where I am in Lyon and I tell you.
The Diocesan House is perfect. I would like you to be there to listen.
- Do not you want to go?
- I do not remember.
Régine Mayor told me that one day she had organized a meeting
which had gone wrong.
- Why? - She did not tell me.
- You are scared?
It's normal. - No.
It's not just fear. It's anger.
- What? - Let him deny. Let him say that I am lying.
And that it's useless. - It's a risk.
If you do not go, you'll regret it. - I want him to confess.
And that the diocese and Barbarin be witnesses.
Let them hear it.
- Then go.
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Organ
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Door
Music disturbing Happy screaming
...
... Childish hubbub
... ...
Zipper
...
Someone knocked.
Door
- Hello, Father. - Hello, Regine.
- Thanks for coming.
- Hello, Alexandre. - Hello, Father.
- So? How is it going? In good health?
- Yes, I am fine. - Régine told me that you worked
in Paris. - Yes, in a bank.
- And you are married? - Yes.
- Do you have children? - Yes, five.
- Ah well!
Happy to see that you started a family.
A large family!
- You remember what you did to me?
In the photo lab from 1983 to 1986?
- Yes.
- And in Portugal too? - Yes, Alexandre, I remember it.
- You kissed me with the tongue, tight against you,
undressed, fondled sex and make touch yours.
- Yes, it's a shadow on my life.
I had to live with that.
I always had an attraction for kids
and it's a pain for me.
- A suffering for you? And for me? - I know the harm I did,
but it's an illness.
I tried to get treatment several times.
- Have there been other children like me? - Yes.
Very many.
Scouts especially. It was another time.
- You would agree to recognize publicly these touching?
Its important to me.
- I understand,
but publicly ...
I want to avoid overflows
or physical aggression that would provoke.
- What do you mean? - I have already been
assaulted and molested in the garden from my country house
by violent, hysterical parents.
- You had abused their children.
- But that's not a reason!
- You realize what are you saying?
You need to understand that you are a pedophile
and this violence is nothing compared to suffering
that their children have suffered.
- Father Preynat,
Something to add?
- No.
- Do you want to talk to Alexander? - No.
- Alexander?
- No it's OK.
- Well, I invite you to get up.
- OUR FATHER WHO ARE IN HEAVEN,
HALLOWED BE THY NAME, THAT YOU TELL VIENNA
THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US TODAY
OUR BREAD OF THIS DAY.
FORGET OUR OFFENSES,
AS WE FORGINE TOO TO THOSE WHO OFFENED US
DO NOT SUBMIT TO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
- Amen. I salute you marie,
- FULL OF GRACE, THE LORD IS WITH YOU.
YOU ARE BÉNIE BETWEEN ALL WOMEN
AND JESUS, THE FRUIT OF YOUR ENTRAILS, IS BÉNI.
HOLY MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, PRAY FOR US, POOR SINS,
NOW AND AT THE TIME OF OUR DEATH.
- So be it.
- Amen.
- Bye, Regine. - Thank you, Father.
Tense music
...
- It's okay?
...
How are children? - Hi Dad.
- Dad? - Yes?
...
- He is smart!
He knows it's prescribed. He's risking nothing.
- He confessed before a representative of the Church
and they will definitely clear it. - Let's hope, but I do not believe it too much.
- Barbarin is brave. He has always denounced pedophilia.
- I'm sure everyone knew and nobody did anything.
- You know what?
You should testify too. They would see that I am not alone.
- I dunno. - Yes!
You have to talk. Write them.
- Isabelle freaks out a little, she is afraid of rumors.
For us, it would be complicated. - That's within the Church.
- Exactly, you know Isabelle's family.
- Madam, thank you for your approach.
This situation should not have been easy for you.
Think about these children and this past so dark in our history ...
These confessions bring us to the question of forgiveness,
but also to broken innocence. Not easy.
With all my prayers. Alexander.
- What? - She did not answer me.
- It's the weekend, it's normal.
- I thought she would announce me that he was sanctioned.
- She gathered you, she did her job.
It's up to Barbarin to act. - I hope she'll tell him everything.
- She registered you? She noted everything?
- No. But it's okay, I'm not worried.
- Alexandre,
I too wanted to join you.
This meeting is already a step, but I waited one more step:
a real request for forgiveness.
But are the priests able to do it? I feel small.
I hope this meeting can to heal you of a painful past
who will always leave a scar, of course,
but who, with Grace, closes if we do not scratch it too much.
But she is there.
- Nothing about Barbarin!
For her, it's settled, even if he did not say sorry.
- I continue to write? - Yes, it's too light.
This scar story, for a so-called shrink, it's not end.
- I am serene, without aggressiveness, but it's our duty
to put a name on what it is, without fear or shame.
Father Preynat is a pedophile, yesterday as today.
I pray that Monsignor Barbarin have the courage to say stop
and fight this plague who has hurt the Church so much.
I hope to meet Monseigneur Barbarin. I count on you.
Where's my shirt?
- Do not tell me to copy
my two boys who will be confirmed
by our bishop this saturday and who support me.
- And you?
- Sir,
Régine Mayor sent me your email.
He had to apologize during this meeting
and that's incomprehensible that these words did not come.
I am ready to receive you.
I am ready to receive you ...
Not Saturday,
because you will probably want to be in family.
At least we can greet us and find
another moment.
Let us accompany our young people
which will be confirmed. Philippe Barbarin.
Organ
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By baptism,
You delivered them from sin and bring forth water and the Spirit.
As you promised, spread now on them
Your Holy Spirit.
Give them fullness the Spirit that rested
on your son, Jesus: spirit of wisdom and intelligence,
spirit of advice and strength,
spirit of knowledge and filial affection.
Fill them with the spirit of worship
by Jesus Christ, our Savior who is alive
For centuries and centuries. - AMEN.
Organ
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Gauthier
be marked with the Holy Spirit, the gift of God.
...
Victor
be marked with the Holy Spirit, the gift of God.
...
He whispers.
- Barbarin did a very good sermon. - Yes.
He's going to meet me about Preynat. - Really?
- Its important to me. - It's been over 30 years, Alexandre!
- I need to talk to him.
- Why bother him with that? He has nothing to do with it.
- Preynat is always in contact with children.
- He's a harmless old man and surely sick.
- The Church must act and condemn it.
- Today, it's no longer useful.
- He could dismiss him. It would be a strong and symbolic act
who would prove that the Church
condemns pedophilia.
Did you tell daddy? - Vaguely.
- What's he saying?
- That you're good at stirring shit.
- In 91, I told you everything and you did not do anything!
- You were already 17 years old.
- It's okay? - I want to go.
- Already? - I can not see them anymore.
- You spoke? - I should not "disturb" Barbarin!
- You should have waited for your appointment. - Let's go?
Mom, we're leaving.
To the attention of Pierre Durieux.
It was a joy that my boys are confirmed by Bishop Barbarin.
We had to make an appointment.
I had answered him promptly.
I'm afraid he will not receive my answers.
This happens often with my emails.
Since he had quickly answered me following the email of Régine Maire,
I wanted to check.
Not
...
- You follow me?
Do you like grape juice? - YES.
- How's it going since your confirmation?
- Yes. It's more complicated for our father.
- Your father has courage to dare to testify
for the truth to be told and that justice be done.
- It's difficult. - We would like to help him.
- It's nice to worry you for your father.
I did not know anything the actions of Father Preynat.
Bishop Decourtray who had taken care of it no longer of this world.
We can not go back to the past.
But now I'm here and you can count on me.
You have to pray for your father and all the sinners of our Church.
Such acts are revolting,
that they are committed in family,
at school, in the world of sport. But they are doubly so
when the guilty are priests whose mission
is to announce Christ and the Gospel.
For the sinner, there will always be mercy.
But priest and pedophile are two incompatible words.
- When will you meet him?
- Very soon.
My schedule was very busy.
Good, Regine ...
I signed one for your father.
Our Father who is in heaven ...
- HALLOWED BE THY NAME, THAT YOU TELL VIENNA
THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US TODAY OUR BREAD OF THIS DAY
FORGET OUR OFFENSES
AS WE FORGINE TOO TO THOSE WHO OFFENED US
- I want to throw them. - He's on our side.
Did you know they were going to see him? - No, I would have forbidden them.
- Why? - He could have manipulated them.
- He did not do it. On the contrary.
- I feel like he's trying to fall asleep, to anesthetize you.
First with Régine Maire, Preynat, then the children ...
- They seem obsessed with the absence request for forgiveness.
- It's normal.
They believe in redemption, to the strength of forgiveness.
- You see,
if Preynat had asked me for forgiveness,
I do not know what I would have done. - You would have become his prisoner,
his victim forever.
- Regine, I finally had Cardinal Barbarin on the phone.
We have an appointment in 15 days. Thank you.
I reread The Life of the month of July,
magazine that was one of the catalysts of my approach.
Here is the link. It's very interesting.
Our Pope has incredible sentences. He says:
"I pledge to tolerate no harm to a minor
"for no wolf to enter in the sheepfold. "
- Alexandre, thanks for this text where the demand for forgiveness is central.
The cardinal spoke to me of your appointment.
I wanted to warn you:
it seems like rumors on Bernard Preynat are spreading
on Neulise at least.
It is regrettable. I know it was not your goal.
I just wanted to inform you
before your appointment with the cardinal.
Have a nice week end. May the peace of the Lord dwell in you.
Friendship, Regine Mayor.
Investigative Music
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- This picture is poignant. Did you know her?
- Yes, I saw her in a history book.
- Bishop Decourtray had it hooked here,
his successors preserved it. You're welcome.
- Thank you.
- How many victims? Two? Three? - Much more!
Tens or even a hundred.
He had 200 scouts under his responsibility
every year you can imagine. - I'm horrified.
I regret so much
that Father Preynat was not able to to say sorry.
I told him. He claims that it is an oversight.
He told me: "I should have asked him for forgiveness."
- I do not wait
repentance, but a penalty against him.
Father Preynat is a danger for kids.
He admitted to being a pedophile ...
- Avoid this expression. - What expression?
- This word!
- But that's what he is! - Yes, but in the etymological sense,
Pedophile means "to love children."
According to God, one must love children.
Not too much, of course.
- But ...
What does it say then? Child sex?
- Yes, it seems fairer to me.
I passed throughout the diocese a circular
demanding that no priest do not stay alone with a child
for a confession.
For the catechism, that they are accompanied by someone.
- That puts stigma on all priests.
And they are not all child sex!
- It's a measure prevention, security.
- It would be better condemn pedophilia
and dismiss the rapist priests. - Everything in its time.
Pope Francis tells us to be brave
regarding this Evil.
Believe me, I'm not going to lack courage. See you soon.
- Thank you, my lord. Goodbye. - Goodbye.
- "We brought before Jesus the little ones
"for him to touch them but the disciples greed them. "
- "Jesus, at this sight, was indignant and said to them:
"Let the little children come to me
"for the Kingdom of God is to those who are like them. "
- "I tell you,
"who will not receive as a child the Kingdom of God will not enter it. "
- Then, He kissed them and blessed them by laying hands on them.
The day of our baptism, we become the children of God
and Jesus loves us how he loved these little children.
- Mr. Cardinal, I did not write
during this Christmas period, so conducive to prayer.
But the fact that Father Preynat still gives catechism classes
revolts me a little.
Fortunately, the words of our Pope have resonated firmly in me.
I followed closely the case of the priests pedophiles of Granada.
You spoke of courage, our Pope There is no obvious lack of it.
I leave it to you.
I pray for our Church so beautiful and so human.
Alexander.
Christmas song
- AND THE ECHO OF OUR MOUNTAINS
REDIT THIS MELODIOUS SONG
GLORIA
...
IN EXCELSIS DEO
- OH!
- Wow!
- Thank you. Happy New Year to your entire family
and especially to our two confirmed ones.
I do not know
what happened in Granada but I will inquire.
May the Lord watch on all his family.
To Sunday maybe for diocesan vows.
* - For the first time,
* a leader of the Church, accused of pedophilia, will be judged.
- Did not you take a shower? What are you doing?
- I arrive.
I arrive!
- Hurry up.
- Mr. Cardinal,
Regine, I send you this article on the Polish archbishop,
Józef Wesolowski,
accused of pedophilia and refugee in the Vatican since 2013.
He was arrested by the gendarmerie of the Holy See.
The Pope asks that we face
the situation with rigor.
I'm waiting for more testimonials on the actions of Father Preynat.
I will direct my action at the level of Rome.
Where are you?
May God continue to protect our children.
- Thank you Alexander, I read your article.
In the recent consistory, the cardinal O'Malley from Boston was very clear,
it is he whom the Pope has charged of this file on pedophilia.
I will take the measurements which will be suggested to us.
I'll keep you informed.
Good Lent and a hello to the confirmed last year,
they are nice gentlemen.
- Dear Alexander, I had read this text well.
The Church is determined. Did the cardinal answer you?
I can not tell you what to do with the Pope.
The bottom line is that you find peace and the means to find it.
I assure you of my friendship and my prayer.
Sincerely, Regine Mayor.
- Marie thinks I'm too nice and they lead me by boat.
- They protect the institution, classic.
- I'm going to make a file with their emails, other testimonials
and send it to the Pope.
- And justice? - It's up to the church to fix that.
- It's annoying that I'm prescribed? - Why this?
- I thought about.
I am ready to testify. - And Isabelle?
- It does not look, it's my story.
Investigative Music
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- Cardinal, here is the letter from a friend, Olivier Itaque,
who suffered the same actions pedagogues of Father Preynat.
He told me that Preynat was running on many boys.
- I was sexually touched
and many times he kissed me on the mouth.
- I'm afraid there was hundreds of child victims.
Olivier Itaque knows several.
- Thank Mr Itaque for my part
for his testimony and tell him that we will receive it
if he wishes.
As announced, I called Father Preynat.
He came and I told him that I was taking away the charge
of his parish and that he would have no other.
Have a nice Sunday.
Organ
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- He saw you. - I know.
- The body of Christ.
- (No, not with him.)
- (Sit down.) - The body of Christ.
The body of Christ.
The body of Christ.
...
The body of Christ.
...
- Come.
Let's go.
...
- I do not understand.
Barbarin does not care about me.
To the attention of Father Frillon.
Knowing that Father Preynat is under your direction,
I would like to know why he still celebrates Masses
surrounded by choirboys.
- Our Lord. - AMEN.
- I will write about him to our Holy Father, the Pope.
Alexandre Guérin.
PS: I met Suzanne Cremer, former secretary to the diocese,
who has a lot of information on the Preynat folder.
- Around 1980, one of my brothers told me
that the cardinal of the time removed Preynat
of the parish for pedophile problems.
He was forbidden to be in contact with the kids.
That's right, he had always had blond darlings.
At that time, Preynat recognized with a friend that he was sick,
that he had himself suffered adult assaults.
- It does not excuse anything but it seems that he never denied, just downplayed.
- Since a long time,
we hear about him but no one has ever complained.
- Why Barbarin does nothing? He has enough power to act.
- You know,
they have known each other for a long time.
When Barbarin saw the good work of Preynat,
money and the faithful that he brought back ...
- You would know non-prescribed victims?
- My nephews
have luckily not dealt with him.
But I'm sure there are some in the countryside,
among the altar boys, catechism.
I do not think he stopped.
You know, I blame myself.
Basically, I knew. We all knew and we said nothing.
- Are you there? We are going for a walk. Alexandre, are you coming?
- I finish. - Write to whom?
- To the Pope.
- OK, let's go.
- Where are we going?
- To the Golden Head.
Victor, Gautier, Benoît, let's go.
- Most Holy Father, I started a step of truth.
I met Mgr Barbarin and Mrs. Régine Maire.
I spoke with Father Preynat who confessed his pedophilia
and all the abuse
that he had to endure to children.
Our silence did not absolve him of his crimes,
source of pain which often never stops.
The Church can not forget his complacency.
We must put the light on the terrible darkness of the Church.
Cardinal Barbarin give him no more church,
but he will remain a priest.
"No wave." This minimization his crimes is unbearable to me.
There is very little compassion before that.
My gait of truth is both embarrassing and boring.
It's thanks to your commitment that I confided,
but I am ashamed to belong to our Church
which leaves people like Father Preynat is still a priest.
Why do not you act?
- Alexander.
- He stained children in their flesh.
Soft music
...
To no longer be afraid to write, it will have taken me 30 years.
- Thanks to you,
in our meetings, we talk of homosexuality and pedophilia.
- This is not the same, sexual orientation
and a criminal perversion.
- Yes, but as they are subjects that we never touched,
I consider it a progress
for our Church.
- What is going on really for Preynat,
for his dismissal? - I'll be clear,
maybe a little brutal,
but I think Father Preynat
will and will always be a priest.
- You deny our status as victims.
- Of course we are on the side of the victims.
We are aware of the character criminal of Father Preynat.
Moreover, we found Decourtray papers
saying "scalded by the truth concerning Preynat ".
- But no dismissal.
- No. - You know what's going to happen
if he is not dismissed?
In six months, the case will be buried
and he can go abroad exercise his perversion with impunity.
After the scouts, the little Lebanese. - Please, Mr. Guérin!
- More than a solution. - What?
- Bring the case to justice. - It's useless.
You are prescribed and no non-prescribed has been declared.
Does it exist?
No, according to Preynat's words ...
- The words of Preynat? How do you believe it?
- But ...
Why stir those old stories?
I will pray for you. Door
- Dear Alexander,
I spoke again to my brothers and nephews of Preynat for your investigation.
One of my nephews, Didier, recognized have been touched by Preynat.
I am in shock.
The word needs time to free oneself
We also spoke about Mathieu, his dead brother.
He would have suffered the most sexual attacks.
My brother thinks that his suicide would be related to these rapes.
I am upset
and I feel guilty to have said nothing.
I have not seen Didier for 5 years.
He has a lot of conflict with his father and authority.
A marginal life after difficult years in drugs.
Meet the because if the facts took place,
they are not prescribed for him.
He is 33 years old.
- Did he teach you catechism?
- Yeah.
- And the altar boy? - Sometimes,
but not every Sunday.
- Where was it? - It depends.
In the sacristy, but sometimes also in the cure.
- What did he do to you?
- No ... I do not want to talk about that.
- I understand. Me, he held me tightly in his arms.
He kissed me, he told me
"I love you." and he caressed me.
You know,
if you complain, Preynat will be attacked by justice.
You would do it for the prescribed victims.
And there are many.
Your aunt told me of your brother, Mathieu.
He committed suicide because of Preynat?
Sigh
- No, it's because he was queer. - Even if he was homosexual,
the attacks of Preynat were criminal.
We must break the chain of silence. Do it for Mathieu.
- It's easy to speak for you.
You, you have a family, money, a job. You have everything.
What do I have? Huh? What do I have? I have that slab.
I have no future. - Okay, but I come back from a distance.
- If I do it, What was there on my mouth?
Victim of pedophile?
- If you speak, others will speak.
You will not be alone. We will be there.
- I dunno.
I have to think.
Piano
...
- Look, that's where we were. - Yes.
- Yes.
...
* Beep
...
* - You have a new message.
...
- We are going to go there. - Why?
- I have something to do. - We were good.
- Come.
...
Here. - Thank you.
Hammer drill
...
- Hello.
- What are you doing here? - I wanted to talk.
- You have not got my message? - Yes...
- We have nothing more to say to each other. - I would like...
- I will not testify, it's clear?
- Didier ... - Go away!
Rhythmic music
...
...
- I complain against Mr. Bernard Preynat.
...
bell
- Hello. Mr. Debord? - Yes.
- Courteau, brigade of the miners.
- It's 25 years old, we thought it was classified.
- Yes, but no complaints had not yet been filed.
- That he has done?
- One of his victims but I can not tell you who.
But it is possible
that there is prescription.
- A scout? - Yes, from St. Luke, like your son.
- I knew it would come out.
- We found in the archives of the diocese, your letter of 1991
addressed to Mgr Decourtray about Preynat.
- There were plenty of them.
- That is to say?
- I traded with Decourtray and Preynat.
- With Preynat?
- Yes. - Can I see that?
- Of course.
There, Decourtray asked me to stop sending referrals.
That's Father Plaquet ...
Father Faivre and here are Preynat's letters.
- "A deep wound in my priestly heart. "
He confesses, incredible.
- He always confessed. This is his only quality.
- I take all that. - I do not have doubles.
- We send you copies by email. - Okay.
- Your son is in Lyon? - He lives in Beaujolais.
- His coordinates? - It's not opportune.
- We have to see him quickly. His number.
Calm music
...
- I'm calling Francois? - I'm taking care of it.
...
I'm going to get ready!
...
- Oh bah? Mum?
- It's okay? - Yes, I am fine.
- I was shopping in the area.
- Do you want a little coffee? - Yes.
- You got something to tell me.
It's Louis. - Nothing to do with your brother.
- What is it? - It will annoy you but ...
- But what?
- The police went to see us ...
To ask us Father Preynat.
An investigation for sexual abuse. - Oh?
- He found us thanks to my letter of 91.
- So what? - A complaint
was filed against Preynat and the commissioner would like
question you. - But no.
It's from the past! Who is the con who is waking up now?
He could not speak before? - I do not know, he did not say anything.
- It's for the money.
- He will call you.
- No, I have nothing to say to him.
- He took all my file. - What folder?
- You know well.
The letters of the cardinal, of Preynat. I had everything kept for the day
where you would like to read them.
I'm sorry to go back in there.
- Do not take your head, I will handle that.
* - Can we make an appointment?
- I stop you, I have nothing to declare.
But I would like retrieve the documents.
* - You should testify r. You may not be prescribed.
* M. Debord? - Yes, I am here.
Hello, darling? * - Yes .
- I'm going to get some bread? * - No, I bought some.
- Are the girls lying? * - I just put them to bed.
- It works. To all, I love you. * - Right now.
* - Call ended.
- Francois, can you come?
- François, what did you do Father Preynat is bad.
It's forbidden by law.
A priest does not kiss a child on the mouth
and do not touch her buttocks.
He risks prison. - I do not want.
- We have to do something.
He was not allowed to do that to you.
- So you will not go to Scout Camp
your brother and you. - I wanted to go!
- Louis!
- What interests Preynat, it's the little ones.
Tense music
...
- Dad?
- Are you alright, darling? Dors.
My parents did stop the scouts.
- That's crazy.
- I was bad and that's why that I did not want
let him go to jail. - I do not understand,
it was not yours, at 11, to decide!
- They did what they could.
At least they reacted.
- Yeah ...
Imagine that happens to girls.
- Fuck, that's not true! - What?
- He's still with kids!
It's sick.
I thought he was dead.
Faraway shots
...
Drums
...
- I'm not fine? - No.
* - Decourtray assured us that it was done.
- What a bunch of bastards!
* - Did you get the commissioner? - We have a meeting.
* - We did everything so that it is no longer contact with children.
- With your letters, we will have to do something.
* - Be careful, they are powerful.
- I kiss you.
I have a confession from Preynat that I can show you.
* - Listen, I know them, that does not seem credible to me.
- There is already a complaint for sexual abuse,
I'm not delirious! * - I see that and I'll call you back.
- She is beautiful the local press!
* - Good, goodbye.
- Connard.
- Ah yes. How did Barbarin react? - I dunno,
he must call me.
You can not quote me? - Do not you assume?
- Yes, but I would like protect my family.
You understand? - No, have to go there.
- I do not want to reveal my identity.
- OK, can I take your letters?
- Can I read the article? - No.
It's not my ethics.
- OKAY.
He's laughing.
- That will not stop me from writing. - I let you pay?
I'm going to the police station.
He was charismatic, good speaker, appreciated.
He was almost a guru. - How did it go for you?
- It happened several times. Between 5 and 10 times.
In isolated places.
In camp or on St Luc, during outings, on weekends ...
He cuddled me like my father.
- What did you say to your parents? - I spoke only of the last contact.
- Yes?
- It was the Cubs. He had asked me to stay.
We were alone, the light was out.
He took off my beret, my glasses and took me against him
to give me a hug.
It lasted about fifteen minutes.
I still remember his groans,
his hot breath, the color of his shirt.
He hugged me and ...
And all at once, he raised my thigh
to put his hand under my shorts and caress my buttocks.
- He went under your pants?
- In my memory,
he did not touch me sex.
But he kissed me on the cheek and by the way,
he kissed me on the mouth. And he said it was our secret.
- The kiss was laid or slipped? - It was...
Posed. Without the language.
- And after?
- I'm home. I told my brother:
"Preynat kissed me on the mouth."
I was proud. My brother told my parents
who fought to keep him away from children.
For me, it stopped there. - Your mother
told us that she had extrapolated,
declaring that he had undressed you.
What is it?
- No, my mother had to do an amalgam with other stories.
It's normal. She had very bad experience with the facts.
- You know you are not prescribed? - Yes.
- Do you file a complaint against him?
- Yes, I'm complaining.
Not only Preynat but also since when did the diocese know?
And if Barbarin knew, why did he leave him in office?
- If you want Barbarin, you will run a long time.
- Then I complain against the diocese of Lyon who knew
and who did nothing.
- OKAY. Do you have something to add?
- No.
Yes! I will publicize the case.
- What do you mean?
- It must go out.
- You're going to rot my job
by exciting journalists which will reveal too much.
Be reasonable.
Let's avoid the syndrome of the Gregory case.
- Oh fuck! You want to judge a man,
me, it's an institution, a system, which allowed a pedophile
to commit his crimes years with impunity.
- We're fighting the same fight.
- I hope. - Of course!
Portable
- Hello yes? * - Hello, here is Cardinal Barbarin.
* François Debord? - Yes, hello, thanks for reminding me.
I leave Courteau's house. * - Really? Very good.
- Since I read the letters, I am in shock.
* - I understand.
But we should meet us to talk about it.
- With pleasure. * - In mid-November?
- It's a bit late.
* - I have gone r in Lebanon a few days.
- I have a proposition.
- I'm listening to you.
* - That would be great if we did a joint statement.
* A cardinal and an atheist, that would be a joke.
- I do not understand.
- To condemn pedophilia and the silence of the Church.
It's a question of morality and duty.
* - I do not think so
be it a good idea but I take the case seriously.
- But with or without you, we must mediate.
Good bye, sir.
- I will not cancel Lebanon? - No.
But we must act quickly.
- Did you tell Benoît? - No.
- He also went to the police station. - Oh?
- But he did not complain.
- That does not surprise me. - Can I ask you
a question about what happened for François?
- My sweetheart... - We have nothing to hide.
- I say nothing more. - But no.
- We're listening, Aline.
- Why not see the police?
- It's complicated to explain but it's true, we asked ourselves
the question.
Maybe we should have?
- It had to be protected,
to avoid pressure of justice, the press ...
It's complicated for a child to testify and then,
we thought it was not worth it to add some.
The Church has been trusted. - I called Decourtray
and he told me
"I removed it from the group St Luc, what can I do more? "
I told him we could not leave him without psychological follow-up!
"I'm taking care of it." You speak!
- Can we talk about something else?
- Yes, of course, darling.
Light brouhaha
...
* - Hello .
* Several complaints have been filed against a priest of this diocese.
* The facts, prior to 1991,
* implies this accused priest sexual assault on minors.
* I condemn unreservedly acts that have reached
* young people in their intimate life.
* This priest has no more pastoral responsibility
* and all contact with minors was forbidden to him.
* As the Pope said:
* "Families need to know that the Church wants to protect children.
* "They can trust
* "because it's a safe house."
- Monseigneur, I must tell you my deep respect
for your approach.
No need to lose you precious time
and I propose to cancel our meeting.
- Thank you. I leave you judge the opportunity of this meeting.
But I find it helpful to hear you.
Happy All Saints Day to you.
- Monseigneur, to be sincere,
I do not feel the need to be heard
and let me hear compassion.
Thanks to my parents, I freed myself from all that.
I have no animosity against Father Preynat or the Church.
Nice to see the Catholic religion is questioning himself.
But I am outraged by the inertia Cardinal Decourtray.
There is a criminal in this case and I will fight,
animated by what I think is right and good deep in my soul.
I will preserve the faith of your faithful that I respect, despite my atheism.
Cordially. François Debord.
- Look! - What?
- "At least 20 kids
"have passed there", assures a Lyonnais victim of the priest.
- Me? - Yes.
"The silence will have held 20 years but his past catches up with him.
"Father Preynat did not follow up
"to our solicitations. He lives with the Sisters of Montgay ... "
- "Where he was sidelined.
"But this priest could benefit of the prescription. "
Portable
Hello, Captain. * - Did you see La Tribune ?
- Yes, incredible!
* - Is it you? - It's not me!
But it's very good that it finally comes out.
* - I'm not sure. - The investigation goes ahead?
* - I have non-prescribed victims.
- But I warned you.
* - I ask you to be discreet not to interfere with the investigation.
- I disagree! You, you make respect the laws,
me, my duty is to inform so that it does not happen anymore.
* - Francois thought he had turned the page.
* - I was dressed as a scout, with short shorts,
* he took off my beret, my glasses,
* he hugged me and it happened what happened.
* - He is sexually touched.
* His parents warn the diocese who recognizes other reports.
* The priest is far from the parish,
* and admit the facts.
* But 3 weeks ago, François learns
* that the priest is quickly
* income officer with children.
* The Diocese of Lyon issued a press release
* but the mutations are not justified.
* The police are looking victims of recent aggression.
- Bravo.
To face discovered!
- We will not hide.
- We'll have calls! - Support!
- No, our bridge friends are Catholics and it will not please them.
- You did the right thing.
- I was at the Boy Scouts in 1980, well before you.
This story is at least 35 years old.
He blows.
- How old were you? - At the beginning, 9 years old.
At 10, I told my mother that I wanted to stop
because of Preynat.
She went to find Father Plaquet
who told him that Preynat would be far from children.
Which was wrong.
- I went around the local media, but nothing moves.
I would like to do a national press conference.
- Before, we have to find other victims to have more weight.
- Do you know?
- I have old boyfriends scouts. I'm sure some have been abused.
- Were there lists of scouts?
- Certainly.
- Well then, we start? - OKAY.
I follow you.
- Thank you.
What year in St Luc? Very well!
Oh ok. OK, thank you sir. Good bye, sir.
Preynat, a great guy. Another?
- Call that one. - Thank you.
François Debord, former scout of the group St Luc.
There is an investigation on Father Preynat for pedophile acts. Hello?
You hear me? - He hung up?
- I understand.
You can call me to this number when you want.
Thank you. Goodbye.
- So? - He was crying.
- We will organize a meeting with several victims.
Waiting,
could you write your story? Yes, that would be great.
Good, thank you very much. See you soon.
- So? - Already four.
- Not bad. Do you want help?
- Can you take care of this list?
Alarm
...
- Hello? * - Hello ?
* Tristan, we talked to each other. r.
- Yes. * - Do not you mind?
- Not at all. I'm listening to you. - (Put the speaker on.)
* - It was hard to talk to you yesterday
* but since then, my head has exploded ... I vomited this self r.
* It's like he's back. - I understand.
* - Preynat is an old bastard. He screwed me up.
- You are not the only one. * - I never spoke.
* My wife, my mother, my son, nobody knows what he did to me.
- Do you want to testify? * He's crying.
The police are looking for victims.
* - I do not know.
*
- There is a crowd.
- A guy told me:
"When we make love, we are three. Me, my wife and Preynat. "
- It's certain that it is difficult to rejoice.
- You know who is behind of the complaint?
- No. Courteau did not give you his name?
- He's suspicious of me.
He is happy we send victims.
Hubbub
- Excuse us, we'll start.
Go ahead.
- Gilles had the idea to create a website for the association.
There will be news articles,
the letters and our testimonies. - Here.
This will be a source of information and support for the victims.
- We must find a maximum of victims, prescribed or not.
We are counting on you to come in force
in January. - Why January?
We are not in a hurry. - Yes!
Courteau finishes his investigation at the end of January, so we have to go out before
to put pressure on the floor
and make noise. - The testimonies,
we have to? - Each
do what he wants, but take the example on the survivors of Auschwitz.
- It's not a very good example. - No.
- It's to avoid
the glaucous details.
He sucked me, I caressed him ... People do not want to read that.
- You know what risk
Father Preynat?
- According to Courteau, he risks prison.
- He incurs the correctional unless there is rape,
that is to say any form penetration:
ass fuck, blowjobs, there is the Assises.
And "minors under 15 years", it aggravates his case.
But his lawyers will play the prescription is not won.
We must see Courteau even if it's unpleasant.
Dominique?
- I am a psychologist-victimologist.
Some of you have built themselves
with such defenses and repressed so many traumas
that they will hesitate to undertake steps.
Put words on memories who belong to you
and be listened to by a judicial authority
neutral and rather benevolent,
who will confirm that what you have suffered is neither normal nor invented.
It does not have a price for the tranquility of the spirit.
Basically, talking is good. - Thank you.
- A little quiche? - Thank you.
- Sorry, mom, we're not done.
- Excuse me, darling. - Thank you.
We started
an open letter around the silence of Preynat.
We will be published in Le Progrès and we would have a page ...
- In The Tribune. - To say what?
- We speak to the Church but also to those who did not say anything.
These "collabo-catho" who organized a real omerta,
will never be judged but they must understand
that they are all guilty. And they are many.
We thought of a title like "Shame on you."
- Should we take the risk of falling
in a register "all collabo".
- The guilty parents are those who do not have
wanted to hear their children.
It's not the majority. - I agree with them.
We must not be guided by revenge, but justice.
- OK ... Thanks guys, good crop.
We are here for that.
I was clumsy, but I would like
have people condemned who remained silent.
Personally, I would have trouble living with that.
Drums
.
Portable
.
Hello? * - François ?
- Yes. * - We found it.
- Who? * - The one at the origin of the 1 r complaint.
* By a mutual friend.
Cymbal
- Yes!
The association, it's "The liberated Word".
We will file the statutes.
I will be president, Gilles, secretary and you, treasurer.
- I dunno.
I went to the end of my step. You do not need me.
- Without you, Courteau would never back to me.
You are at the origin of everything. Without you, we are not credible.
- You can not stop there.
- I'm an eco consultant on TV in Paris, it's complicated.
- You do not have to expose yourself.
- Yes. - There is also
my wife who works among the Lazarists. It jazes.
My children are there.
- I'm a surgeon, half my clientele is ultra catho.
They all support Barbarin.
I do not think I'm losing my clientele for that.
I am Catholic, like you.
I do that against, but for the Church.
- Thank you.
- Are we waiting for him? - He's going to arrive.
- I hope. - I call him.
Someone knocked. - Come in.
- I'm sorry, there were traffic jams. - Great, you came!
- Hello Master.
- Get comfortable.
- There is an incredible snowball effect.
We have about sixty testimonials.
- The word is free everywhere, even in the Church.
- You're attacking a big machine, a real institution.
It is not won. - We know,
we are here to make things happen. - We'll have trouble
to have convictions, but we can move things
on the prescription.
- The public must understand
that 20 years is not long enough. It takes time for the victims.
- If not,
your status is anything.
- Sorry?
- We'll have to see each other again.
- We do not have time. The site must start before Christmas.
- He is right,
we need members. Must darken. - And we are preparing
a complete file for journalists, so no.
- Well ... Well, okay.
Let me re-read everything to avoid a slanderous denunciation.
- No problem.
It's going to be Christmas, There are children's gifts.
Must pay the typo, the photo, have to get started.
- You come? - No, I have an appointment.
- Oh? - Hi. See you soon.
- See you soon. - Yeah.
- He is soooo
- No more than you. - I make him flipper?
- Your side "priest baker", it's not his thing.
- I calmed down anyway. - You will have to reboss your text.
"Yes, I will do it, Father. - Otherwise, it's the lab-photo.
Laughs
- "Surprised of the little impact of this case,
"we created the association "The liberated Word"
"who supports the victims Father Preynat.
"And finally, a press conference will be held on January 12, 2016.
"Everyone can join by a contribution of 10 €.
"I need your mobilization. Join! "
- So?
- That's good, it's clear. When did you post it?
- Yesterday on Facebook. - Did you get any returns?
- People at work.
- Did your parents answer? - Right now.
- And Louis? - Not yet.
Hubbub
.
- Madeleine, Aurelian, come back to the table.
- Leave them, it's Christmas. - Christmas, it's tomorrow.
Gifts, it's tomorrow morning, children!
Thank you. - What time is midnight mass?
- In your opinion? - I dunno.
Usually it's 10-11 hours?
- You think? - It's fine at midnight.
- Are we going to Mass?
- If you want. - Dad?
- It will be without me.
- Make an effort, it's Christmas.
Please. - Turkey?
- No, thank you very much.
- Cheese. - I will help you.
- Thank you my love. - It was really good.
- Yes, please.
- Should I make an effort?
- For your children.
jingle
- Ah!
.
- I enjoy of this beautiful Christmas family evening
to toast my brother. - Francois,
please. - It's for me.
- Louis. - Yes.
- Thank you for your great generosity and your legendary benevolence.
- What are you talking about? You're drunk?
- You know that this cause Dear to my heart.
And I do not ask much,
10 € symbolic.
I must be stupid to imagine
that my loved ones, my brother, support me.
And besides, you ask me to go to church?
- OK, this is the holidays ... - Yes!
We are together and not a word!
Nothing! - It's useless to become hysterical.
Do you want 10 €? Here. - Oh no!
It's too generous, frankly!
No, Louis, keep them. You can even put them in your ass.
- That's enough!
- Please, François.
- You know Louis, your silence, it's a betrayal.
Sigh
- What
you speak? You're crazy. - You despise the suffering of others.
- It's okay! You do not have the monopoly of suffering!
You bother us with your association! - Whore!
Damn, the truth that finally comes out!
- The truth is that you bother us with your story of priest!
The parents
talk about that! Do not you see that we can not anymore?
It has always been like this!
Everything has always revolved around you!
You take the whole place
and you made us shit all our childhood.
It continues!
You know what? You succeeded. Even mom is under your influence.
- What are you talking about? - That you want to be cremated,
where did this come from?
- I did not even know.
- Louis ... - Dad, seriously ...
Come on, I'm fine All is well, dad ... everything is fine.
I ride.
(I'm going to bed, shit.)
- His words have gone beyond his thought. - No.
He is jealous. It's me who should be.
He succeeded everything! He is armored with his two barracks.
- For him, you stayed the darling of your parents.
- Come on.
You send me a text message when you arrive. - Hi.
- Goodbye. Good road.
Goodbye!
Children's choirs
.
- LORD JESUS, LEARN TO BE GENEROUS,
TO SERVE YOU AS YOU DESERVE IT,
TO GIVE WITHOUT COUNTING,
TO COMBAT WITHOUT CONCERNS INJURIES,
WORKING WITHOUT SEEKING THE REST,
WE SPEND WITHOUT WAITING ANOTHER REWARD
THAT THAT OF KNOW THAT WE MAKE YOUR HOLY WILL.
AMEN.
.
.
- I'm freaking out,
in fact. - Why?
- Tristan sent me his testimony yesterday.
It's horrible.
Everything came back to him. He was raped for 3 years.
- To rape? - By fellatio.
- Is it prescribed? - Yes. Preynat behaved
like a pig with him.
He had hearing problems and had been diagnosed with autism.
He knew he would not speak.
He even went on Sunday at his parents' house for lunch.
- The junk.
Tristan agrees to be on the site? - I need to talk to him about it
- I read your text for the conference. It's good, but too long.
- Ah?
- You have to be more neutral, more factual.
Remove aggressive passages.
The testimonies, the facts, play for us.
It's up to journalists to be indignant,
we give the information. - The lawyer will agree.
- What do we do?
- You read your text, I answer questions,
Fabrice presents the site,
and Alexander ... - I'm not sure I'm here.
- You're kidding? - Sorry,
I have an appointment in Paris.
- Our approach is secular, apolitical, citizen.
We work for the good.
We have 40 members including 10 victims.
Among us entrepreneurs, computer scientists,
finance professionals, doctors.
We have a powerful network associated with a total determination.
I will not come back on the assaults sexual abuse,
a preliminary inquiry is underway
and the instruction of the file should take place soon.
This case of pedophilia is of appalling magnitude.
Children were broken, families broke up,
upset religious beliefs.
In view of the irresponsibility of Dantesque
of the diocese of Lyon, we would like to ask 3 questions:
Bishop Barbarin,
why the ecclesiastical tribunal was not entered
given the number of complaints received by the diocese?
Bishop Barbarin, since when? do you know
Father Preynat is a pedophile pervert?
Bishop Barbarin, since when? does the Vatican know
that Father Preynat is a pedophile?
On behalf of the victims, their parents,
of their children, of your faithful, innocent priests soiled
by this case, French citizens,
lay people, clergy and society,
we urge you to answer publicly to these three questions.
The world is watching you and waiting for answers.
Thank you.
- Are you whistleblowers?
- Alexandre! Great that you're here.
- I was able to free myself.
- The one thanks to whom everything has happened. - Can we question you?
- Yes, go ahead. - I'll take that from you
- Thank you. - Great.
- You are the first to have contacted Bishop Barbarin?
- We always apprehend. - It's normal.
Hello. - My wife.
- Enchanted. - Good, thank you very much.
- See you soon.
- Goodbye. - Goodbye.
You know her?
- She's a journalist we have already met.
- I did not speak too fast? - No.
- Your father has something to tell you.
- How are you, Dad?
- It was very good. - Thank you.
- You spoke calmly.
You know, I talked to your brother. - So what?
- He gave me that for you.
- (Thank you.)
(Thank you dad.)
* Weather on the radio
*
- Mom, it's me.
- It's okay? - It's okay?
I went to the bakery. - There's coffee.
- Do you have mail for me? - I'll get it for you.
I also put 2 articles. - What's this?
- I'll let you watch. - A croissant?
- No thanks.
Slowly slowly. Calm.
Slowly... That's ... Here ...
It will be fine...
- I have to write to them. - Wait a bit.
- Today, my mother showed me 20 minutes and the Progress.
I was a victim between 1988 and 1991,
of this priest, Father Bernard Preynat.
I have pictures of the trip to Ireland
where my mother was accompanying and to whom I told everything at 17 years old.
My mother rented an apartment facing this church
that I can describe in detail.
- It's Ireland. He nods.
- The emotion is so strong that I have not looked at the site yet,
I directly clicked on "contact".
I was diagnosed zebra at 30 years old.
Since then I understood why I am unstable in life in general.
Always in survival mode.
- Zebra, that is to say?
- It means the gifted. I have an IQ of over 140.
Zebra is too smart to adapt.
Intelligence never made happy person.
- And Preynat?
- From 88 to 91. It's been 25 years.
I have always waited someone is talking,
that I can tell everything.
- Are you accompanied? - What do you mean?
- Do you see a shrink? It can help. - Oh no!
I did a lot of things: therapy, hypnosis, Sufi dance workshop.
The only thing that helps me is the sport.
- I understand. - It's emptying my head.
In any case, I will help you
for Preynat to go to jail. He must pay!
I worked for Euronews, few years ago.
I can call them for them to make a subject.
- Yes, but most important, it's going to see Courteau
to make your testimony. And after, write
your testimony for the site. - No problem.
- Great.
- It's good to know that we are not alone.
- It is important. - Yeah.
- Had to wait for me.
- I was hungry. Tomorrow I get up early.
- Good evening.
- How did that happen?
- It's okay. He is nice. He's fighting.
- It's a bourge? - Like many scouts.
- Except you.
- What are you doing tomorrow? - I'm going to the hospital, see my mother.
- She is going better? - No I think not. You come with me?
- No, I have to go to the police station. - Good luck.
- Stop being mean. - A bit of humour.
- It's funny!
* Television
*
We arrived with my mother in Lyon in February 88.
I was 8 years old.
A lady advised my mother to register with the group St Luc.
That's where I met Father Preynat. He was nice.
I believed in God.
At the beginning of '89, I do not know the exact day,
but I visualize well, just on the right.
He asked me to come with him to help him.
Tense music
.
Scary roar
.
It lasted 5 to 10 minutes and we went out again.
But from the second time, he ...
- Yes?
- He took off the shirt from the shorts,
caressed sex ...
Then he put his hand in my panties.
He caressed my sex in a circular motion.
He kissed me on the lips.
- Did you talk about it at the time? - No.
Sex was taboo. And it was at the church.
I was disturbed by the divorce from my parents, the move.
Once I confessed to my mother that he kissed me.
- And your comrades? - Nobody talked about it.
But I saw that he was taking others to his office.
- How did it stop? - When Preynat was transferred to the Loire
to take care of so-called of seniors in 91.
- Do you want to add something? - Yes.
Following his touching,
I had a way to masturbate during adolescence ...
Like his hand on my cock.
It provoked a deformation of my penis.
- It handicaps you?
- Currently, no.
I have a normal sex life, in a relationship with.
But it makes me very complex with women.
- Good. Do you file a complaint?
- Of course.
Goodbye. - Goodbye.
- Mum?
- It's okay? - Do you want to read?
- What? - I stole a copy of my statement.
- Oh? - Yes.
(Go ahead.)
So? - I did not know the details.
- I will send it to François Debord. - Yes.
What does Jennifer say?
- She's happy for me. - All the better.
Are you coming to dine with her? - No thanks.
- I am proud of you. - (Thank you.)
Portable
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Hello? * - Mr. Emmanuel Thomassin?
- Yes. * - Mr. Courteau. I'm investigating Preynat.
* I'm contacting you following your testimony.
* You are free tomorrow at 9am for a confrontation?
- Tomorrow? * - Yes .
* We have to hurry, Preynat is put under examination. You are several
* to be confronted with him.
- Can I come with my mother? * - No, just with a lawyer.
- Oh ok. * - Is it good?
- OKAY.
* - Thanks, see you tomorrow. - See you tomorrow.
- So? - I'm calling the lawyer.
- Do not call that bitch.
- Stopped. - She could not defend you from your ex.
- Good, shut your mouth, break up!
Door
- I will be cash: the facts go back 25 years.
He may deny. Prepare yourselves.
- If he dares, I kill him!
- No, do not say that, to kill someone is not you.
OKAY? Okay, we'll have to go.
- Did you take your medicine? - Oh no.
- Good luck. - Right away.
- Enter, please.
- Thank you.
- Oh!
It's little Emmanuel! How is it going?
- But ...
We are no longer at Scouts, he is no longer 8 years old.
Talk to him otherwise.
- Sit down, Mr. Preynat.
Hello Master. - Hello.
- Here is the report of Mr. Thomassin.
Mr. Preynat, do you recognize the facts described?
- Yes.
I acknowledge the facts. - You did it well
in your office for sexual touching?
- Yes. All he tells is true.
- You knew that you had ascendancy?
- At the time, no, but today, I understand that...
I may have hurt them.
- Do you think that this young man has suffered?
- Yes.
He must have suffered.
But you know, I talked about it to my hierarchy several times.
Nobody did anything. - How's the hierarchy?
They knew? - Yes!
They always knew, since Bishop Decourtray.
- Until Barbarin?
- Yes! - They did not do anything?
- What did you say to your hierarchy?
- That I had problems with the kids.
- That's all? Nothing more precise? - No.
Mr. Courteau,
I would like to add something. - We're listening to you.
- Emmanuel,
I would like to tell you... - See him!
- Mr Preynat.
- I would like to say today to Emmanuel
sorry for all that I made you suffer.
- I "made" you.
- I made you suffer.
- Mr. Thomassin?
- You betrayed my trust,
and that of all those who came to this church.
I was a child. For you, it was a game but me, it destroyed me,
destroys in me the "value of the father".
I will never forgive you.
- Master, anything to add?
- No.
- You can take him away. Goodbye, Mr. Preynat.
- (There it's done.)
- What a son of a bitch.
- So?
- I dunno. - Hello. Nadia,
my lawyer.
- He recognized everything and said that his hierarchy knew.
- We do not care! - No, it must be condemned.
- Yes, and especially the silence of the Church.
- We have to go.
- We keep in touch? - Good luck.
- On the attack of Preynator!
He's laughing.
Calm music
.
- That is why?
- Bravo.
- Why?
- You won. - I won?
- Father Preynat is indicted
for sexual assault and rape on a minor under 15
by person having authority.
.
- (Oh fuck...)
.
I think I'll call my dad. - To tell him what?
- To know if he knows.
He will be proud to see what we do, to know that I am part of it.
- He knows about Preynat? - No.
- So what?
- It impacted my sexuality.
It took me a long time to find not what edge I am,
but how to flourish
in a relationship.
I was an early child, a zebra. I had facilities,
but I could not implement them.
I remained in school failure.
- What are you waiting for today? - That Preynat
be sentenced.
Other people testify, that the legislation changes
so that there is more prescription.
- I hope you will do move things.
- We fight for that, anyway.
- Thank you again and see you soon.
- Do you know when that will happen? - Not yet.
I will send a text message.
- How nice. - Thank you.
- Goodbye. - Goodbye. Good luck.
- Did you like that? - What?
- Talk to this bitch.
- Fuck, stop.
- You loved playing your victim.
You're going to see her again for her to suck you deep.
- She suck me, she. - Connard.
- What do you have? What's your problem?
You would have loved to play on TV! You are jealous! Pathetic!
- You're pathetic. - Pathetic!
Holy shit!
She's crying.
.
.
Why are you reacting like that? I do not understand.
You have experienced the same thing.
Go.
- You can get dressed.
Effectively, you have a penis curvature
which is similar at Lapeyronie's disease.
- My lawyer would like to link that
with the touching that I suffered.
This is important for the trial.
- I understand but ... This curve may have appeared
during your puberty following movements
individuals. - A circular motion.
- Yes, but it was 20 years ago.
This is where I could have done an accurate diagnosis.
Certain men have the penis curved naturally.
This may be your case. The only thing I can do ...
He starts.
- Hello. - Hello.
- It's okay? - And you?
- It's okay.
- It would have been good to have a certificate
but we will put it in the medical file.
- Want to see pictures? - Pictures?
- Of my sex. - No, it's not necessary.
.
Calm music
.
Hubbub
- Are we starting? - Yes.
- You know for the indictment of Preynat?
- YES.
- It caused a shock in the diocese.
Since Barbarin contradicts himself: he said to have learned the facts in 2014,
and now he says he knew since 2007.
His lawyers had to tell him
that after 3 years, there was prescription.
It can be bleached.
It's immoral since he knew
and he said nothing. Now,
we will continue to search
a way to attack them
for non-denunciation and jeopardy.
- And the canonical process? - We wrote to Barbarin,
to the Pope, no answer.
With the mediatization, they will move.
- Sorry. About media,
I wanted to tell you that it's good,
I have a driver who will help us for 3000 €.
- A pilot? - Why?
- Explain to them.
- In addition to legal action against Barbarin,
we need a big shot of com and I thought of doing skywriting.
- What? - It's an airplane that would draw
Above Fourvière, a big cock
with the LPL logo. Laughs
- It's funny.
- It was not leaflets? - No, a giant dick!
It says, "What shocks the most,
"a dick or pedophiles?"
- It's heavy as a message. - Yes!
- It can be done above the Vatican:
the guy is doing it at 4000 because it makes him laugh.
There, global resonance!
- No,
you can not let go a cock in the sky!
We have to see the initials of the association
or "Pedophilia stop at the silence of the Church ".
- It is too long!
- Otherwise you do your meeting alone.
- No I did not say that. I'm talking about feasibility.
Otherwise, yes, you're right:
we write "The word liberated.fr" but he can not do it.
- It's a good idea. - Yes, it comes
of your man. - At least,
we are sure to make the buzz.
If I see a logo in the sky, I think it's advertising.
A cock, it speaks. - It's certain!
- It's less shocking than the subject of the debate.
- Debord, you are incredible.
- It's still a popular action. - OK, for this idea,
except that precise terms are needed that fit with our action.
It would be necessary to speak of the sexuality of priests,
a taboo subject, and in particular pedophilia.
Must bring this back to a dimension intellectual, and there, OK!
- I agree. I am talking to you to make a sick buzz.
It will make everyone laugh
and it will put pressure on the diocese, politicians and prosecutors.
- The image of Fourvière is protected.
For any media, they must agree.
They may not be happy.
- We dont do that so that they are happy.
- This makes me think to the hood on the obelisk.
It made the buzz, but it's controversial.
- It's the world of today, we do not have a choice.
- At Easter, it would be nice.
Laughs
- The sky must be clear.
- I'm against, it's too extreme.
It's going to shock the average peking who will understand nothing.
- The goal is to federate. - Excuse me.
She's our lawyer.
- We go to the buffet, huh?
Hubbub
.
- Hi. It's Alexandre?
- Yes hello. - Emmanuel.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
I read your testimony on the site:
I found that crazy ... Forcing you to pray hand in hand
with Preynat ... - My wife, Marie.
Emmanuel. - Ah!
Good evening. - Nice to meet you.
- Your testimony moved me a lot. - Thank you.
- Goodbye.
For dick on Fourvière, it's dead. - Why?
- According to Nadia, it is direct defamation.
- I should have been a lawyer!
- You should have. - A glass?
- White.
- While we're there, someone wants to resume
the phone line of the association, I can not anymore.
It's 24 hours a day, between the victims and the media ...
I'm exhausted. Someone?
- Me.
I am Emmanuel's mom. I can, I'm retired.
I've got time. - Yes with pleasure.
- Awesome.
- You're sure? - Of course.
Good evening. - Alexander. Married.
- You want to drink something? - Gladly.
- Good evening.
- I swear,
how many times I dreamed of torturing him,
to tear off his eyes, his fingers,
one by one. - Like in Reservoir dogs.
- I have not seen.
- He cuts off his ear. - He speaks with his ear cut off!
- Boys, in bed.
You get up early tomorrow.
- Hi. - Good night Daddy.
- Good night. - Hi.
No nightmares, no ears cut.
- Good night.
- They are awesome. - Mary has raised them well.
- We get on well, we talk a lot.
- The opposite of me with my parents. - It's the same for me.
If you saw my mother's text messages ...
- You've been hard too.
- That's one of my texts.
"Mom, Barbarin just has to confess that he has protected a pedophile.
"To be forced to suck or masturbate a priest at 9,
"What is more terrible?
"We protect the children we were.
"We are victims and do not be ashamed or afraid. "
- Yeah, it sends!
What did she say? - "We love you,
"pay attention to yourself and beware of the media. "
Tears No leave it.
- Are you going? - Yes.
- Do we drink coffee in the living room? - Yes.
It's beautiful this family that you train. I admire you.
- Thank you.
- I have nothing.
No family, no job.
A toxic relationship with my girlfriend.
- U.S. too, we had difficult moments.
- You are always together and you support him.
- Yes, it's true.
- Still, it's hard to live with zebras like us.
Sob
It was careless of me?
- No it's nothing.
- It's okay?
- I am going to tell you something that others do not know.
- Yeah?
- If I managed to support Alexandre in his steps,
it's because his fight is mine too.
- I understand.
- Me too, I was abused.
It was a neighbor ...
Finally, a friend. Everyone loved him.
He's dead, so it's prescribed ...
If I spoke, my family would explode, so I am silent.
You have to be brave to talk and face the eyes of others.
I could not. That's why I admire you all.
- Thank you.
bell
* - Who is it? - It's me!
* - Who ? - Emmanuel.
* - It's Emmanuel. * - Opener him .
- Had to warn.
- No, but I passed by chance.
- A little mash? - Yes. Thank you.
Did you receive what I sent you? - Yes.
- Did you watch? - It's life, we all have our problems.
- What ramdam,
with your association!
- You had to know.
To understand our relationship and why it was hard
- It's your mother, the manager. Should not have sent you there.
- She did not know.
- Do you know what I think of her? - Yes.
- She deserved it.
She did everything to ride against me.
- The victim is not you.
It's me.
- Victim ... Stop with that!
You're a man now.
Do something of your life. - That's it, my life!
The liberated speech! You will never understand anything!
Sorry for bothering you! - No!
Do not do that. We are very happy to see you.
- Sorry.
- Rest. - Tell him to go fuck himself
to this old con.
Door slam
- You could have made an effort.
The bike is moving away.
- You want something else? - No thanks.
- That will make you 6 €,
please. - Here.
- Did you know Father Preynat? - Ah ...
Uh ... Oh yes, yes.
I am one of his victims.
- I was part of the group St Luc. - Yes.
- I was at the scouts. - OKAY.
You want to talk about it?
- No, thank you, I'm fine.
See you soon.
You wish? - Hi.
- Chocolate bread.
- Of course, I understand.
Very well. Okay.
It is complicated, but it can do you good
to put that on paper. Remember when you want.
Goodbye.
Excuse me, but it does not stop.
Three new victims.
A nun is adorable. - It is deserved.
- I saw Stephen. - Yes?
- I think he was abused. - He told you?
- Not directly, but I understood. - He lives with his parents
and apart from the bakery, he does not seem to have a life.
He is ready to testify? - I do not think so.
- It's not good for the trade: they have five bakeries
and they are very cathos.
And you? Things are going well?
With Jennifer? - I think we're going to take a break.
- It's sad. - It's used.
She does not support that I go better.
I saw my father.
- To do what? - To talk to him.
- So what?
- He says we have all our problems.
- You will not change it. Nicole was there?
- Yeah.
Mom, remember,
one day, I told you that Preynat had kissed me.
- Yes ... I do not really remember.
- Why did not you say anything?
- I could not imagine something like that.
At the church, he kissed all the children.
I could not believe he was ...
She sniffs.
I blame myself today.
Portable
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- The liberated speech.
Yes, hello sir. Of course.
Yes I'm listening.
- BEFORE ALL I AGREE
ON MY HONOR
AND I MAKE YOU A TRIBUTE
OF ME, LORD!
I WANT TO LOVE YOU WITHOUT DECREASE
MORE AND MORE
PROTECTS MY PROMISE
LORD JESUS
.
FAITHFUL TO MY HOMELAND, I WILL BE
Faraway songs
.
- Come pray, Emmanuel.
Heavy music
.
- Why did you believe Father Preynat when did you see it in 2007?
- When you talk to me, I think.
It's on that that it was the most unleashed.
Well Named!
So, my first question, it's the children of course.
I said, "Was there any the slightest child damaged or assaulted
"since 1990?"
He told me:
"No, I promise you because I hate what I did. "
And that's it, I believed it.
If you prove me that there were facts after,
it's dramatic.
I recognize the extreme violence suffered by the victims,
but personally, I have never covered a single act.
Thanks to God, all these facts are prescribed.
Clamor
Some, maybe not. Justice will decide.
- You measure the violence of: "Thank God, it's prescribed."
- Uh yes ... Yes, that is to say ...
Legally, the majority is prescribed.
- "Thanks to God" means "fortunately".
- Yes...
It's just a mistake of my language, I recognize him.
When I received this victim, I asked him to send his letter.
There, I was horrified.
The first thing I did, even for these ancient and prescribed facts,
I sent them to Rome and Rome said to me
"It is not possible, give him no more ministry. "
Thank you for taking me back.
- And the canonical process?
- I asked Pope Francis if he could lift the prescription.
He accepted.
This procedure will be conducted
by several priests who will study the coins, will hear the victims,
and render a canonical judgment. - Would Preynat be sent back
in the secular state?
- It is possible.
jingle
.
- I wanted to toast. To all of you.
At our work within the association
who will lead us to the conviction of Preynat
and I hope, to that of the Church and Barbarin.
And tell you thank you for everything you did ...
For your support. It changed my life.
It even made sense to him.
A value. That's it, I know that today,
thanks to you, all that we have lived, suffered,
will not be used for anything. - We're going to cry!
- To the Lyonnais
of the year!
- I would have liked
see Barbarin's head. - HEALTH!
- Health at all. - Health.
- I bring the dessert. - I will help you.
- Well, I wanted to tell you only for Dominique and me,
the work is finished.
- What do you mean? - We had to do pretty much
all media apart from 30 million friends.
We have reached our goal.
Preynat will be judged. - That's more the problem.
- As long as the Church do not recognize his mistakes,
and refuses to evolve ... - What he does not say,
it is necessary to be together as a couple.
The association took a lot of emotionally,
professionally.
- Our lives have been turned upside down.
I understand you.
- Everything is on track: it's the lawyers who will do
the job.
- It breaks a little atmosphere but ... - No.
Do not become fair beasts.
- Sorry?
- Give the victims back.
- We are victims. - Others
victims!
- For the trial, is there a date?
- No. - But Preynat is old. If he dies
or commit suicide, what happens? - Nothing, darling.
No trial. All this will have been vain.
- No!
He will commit suicide forever! Too proud!
- He could have an accident.
- The paranoid conspiracy!
- That would arrange the world that he disappears.
- Yes, all the policies of Lyon argue Barbarin.
- Good!
I had good news. - AH?
- That's it, I did a request for apostasy.
- What's this?
- It's when you get lost.
- Bravo.
- Too bad.
Sad!
- I have human values, not Catholics: too much hypocrisy.
- We, our daughter
will not do his sacraments.
What matters is faith.
- I understand you. It's a strong gesture. - No!
To fight against the Church, you have to be inside.
Strength is when you are in it. He's laughing.
- All your steps prove the opposite, right?
- Yes,
we should all be done ...
- Apostatizer. - And we communicate on it.
"The members of" The liberated Word " leave religion
"Catholic."
It's enormous.
No?
I say that like that.
- We serve the dessert. - No thanks.
I am going to smoke. - I come.
- Thank you.
Melancholic music
- Hi! - Thank you, it was great.
- Thank you. - Emmanuel, are you brought back?
- No it's OK.
- Goodbye. - Hi.
- Thanks see you soon.
- Goodbye and happy holidays.
- Merry Christmas! - Yes, happy holidays.
- It's okay? - Yes.
.
Calm music
.
.
. Key
.
Did you see the time?
- Mom had accepted. Tomorrow is Sunday.
- You were with Elodie? - Yes.
- It was good? - Yes, we were at a party.
And you, dinner? - It's okay, a little tense.
We are the Lyonnais of the year!
- Ah! Bravo!
- Do you know who won last year? - No.
- Go ahead, guess. - I dunno.
- Barbarin. - It's enormous.
- Good night. - Good night.
.
Dad?
- Yes?
- Do you still believe in God?
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Children's choir
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. Investigative Music
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Soft music
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