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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,500 --> 00:00:04,707 Tonight on "Beyond Skinwalker Ranch." 2 00:00:04,708 --> 00:00:06,332 Back in 1965, an object 3 00:00:06,333 --> 00:00:10,041 came in about 4:47 PM over the Greater Pittsburgh area. 4 00:00:10,042 --> 00:00:12,583 There was guys out there in dark suits. 5 00:00:12,708 --> 00:00:14,999 The official explanation was the next day, 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,332 it was a bright meteor in the sky. 7 00:00:16,333 --> 00:00:18,166 They went to their death bed 8 00:00:18,167 --> 00:00:21,207 stating that something did happen here in Kecksburg. 9 00:00:21,208 --> 00:00:22,707 I've got dead stick, 10 00:00:22,708 --> 00:00:26,167 which is really concerning because I can't abort. 11 00:00:26,292 --> 00:00:27,833 It's just freaking me out. 12 00:00:27,958 --> 00:00:29,666 That's manmade earthwork. 13 00:00:29,667 --> 00:00:30,708 It's impossible. 14 00:00:30,833 --> 00:00:32,249 I mean, here we go again, right? 15 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:34,124 This looks like it's just coming 16 00:00:34,125 --> 00:00:35,082 out of the dadgum ground. 17 00:00:35,083 --> 00:00:36,416 That shouldn't be there. 18 00:00:36,417 --> 00:00:37,916 Whatever that is, it shouldn't be there. 19 00:00:37,917 --> 00:00:39,541 We might have actually 20 00:00:39,542 --> 00:00:41,791 found the real crash site. 21 00:00:41,792 --> 00:00:43,417 I want my mommy. 22 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:45,499 For years, scientists have 23 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:49,707 been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 24 00:00:49,708 --> 00:00:51,874 But is it possible that the clues 25 00:00:51,875 --> 00:00:54,500 to unlock the mystery are located 26 00:00:54,625 --> 00:00:58,332 beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 27 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:00,082 Wow! 28 00:01:00,083 --> 00:01:03,041 Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 29 00:01:03,042 --> 00:01:05,250 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 30 00:01:05,375 --> 00:01:07,332 to go on a high-stakes mission across America. 31 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:09,791 Look at all this activity that's happening. 32 00:01:09,792 --> 00:01:10,916 That's unbelievable. 33 00:01:10,917 --> 00:01:11,999 That is right over our heads. 34 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,499 That's it. That's it right there. 35 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:14,874 The goal, uncover evidence that 36 00:01:14,875 --> 00:01:16,874 may finally expose the truth. 37 00:01:16,875 --> 00:01:18,249 How is this happening? 38 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:19,457 Now it's going to get interesting. 39 00:01:19,458 --> 00:01:20,707 Look, it's moving! Look at that! 40 00:01:20,708 --> 00:01:21,541 Look at that. 41 00:01:21,542 --> 00:01:24,332 Whoa! 42 00:01:24,333 --> 00:01:27,207 This is just the beginning. 43 00:01:31,208 --> 00:01:34,166 Andy, Paul, where are you about to take us? 44 00:01:34,167 --> 00:01:36,957 So you've all heard of the Roswell crash. 45 00:01:36,958 --> 00:01:37,874 Sure. 46 00:01:37,875 --> 00:01:39,166 Who hasn't? 47 00:01:39,167 --> 00:01:40,957 But have you heard of the Kecksburg crash? 48 00:01:40,958 --> 00:01:42,207 Yes, I have. 49 00:01:42,208 --> 00:01:43,499 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania-- 50 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:44,999 Yes. 51 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,666 -had a relatively well-known, 52 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:50,707 amongst our community, crash in 1965, that has really kind of 53 00:01:50,708 --> 00:01:51,874 become an unanswered cold case. 54 00:01:51,875 --> 00:01:53,541 Well, I'll confess. 55 00:01:53,542 --> 00:01:56,582 Look, I've been hoping that we might engage this story. 56 00:01:56,583 --> 00:01:58,041 You have? 57 00:01:58,042 --> 00:01:59,832 I know a little bit about it, as does Travis. 58 00:01:59,833 --> 00:02:02,499 And so this is really exciting. 59 00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:05,666 So the story is that there is some kind of craft, 60 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:09,750 or space debris, or something that came down there, 61 00:02:09,875 --> 00:02:11,249 acorn-shaped. 62 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:13,999 But what it is, or what it was, or what happened 63 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,167 remains really kind of shrouded in mystery. 64 00:02:16,292 --> 00:02:18,166 There were a lot of witnesses at the time. 65 00:02:18,167 --> 00:02:21,042 It got a lot of coverage, and then just sort of faded 66 00:02:21,167 --> 00:02:23,999 from view under, it seems like, sort of a cloak 67 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,416 of secrecy and some cover up. 68 00:02:26,417 --> 00:02:29,457 We have an opportunity now to go in Kecksburg 69 00:02:29,458 --> 00:02:32,167 and see if we can't bring some of the most modern technology 70 00:02:32,292 --> 00:02:33,707 that we have available to us to try 71 00:02:33,708 --> 00:02:36,124 to answer the unanswered questions about what happened 72 00:02:36,125 --> 00:02:37,083 in this location. 73 00:02:37,208 --> 00:02:38,832 This sounds pretty ambitious. 74 00:02:38,833 --> 00:02:40,958 We don't know what this thing is or how it worked or whatever, 75 00:02:41,083 --> 00:02:41,832 right? - Right. 76 00:02:41,833 --> 00:02:43,541 Was it really a UFO? 77 00:02:43,542 --> 00:02:48,042 Was it a downed experimental craft that was being worked on? 78 00:02:48,167 --> 00:02:49,542 Who knows what it could have been? 79 00:02:49,667 --> 00:02:51,999 One asset that we feel like we've got going in here 80 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,875 is a guy named Stan Gordon, a guy who 81 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,541 was local to the area, who was really captivated by this 82 00:02:57,542 --> 00:03:00,916 as a young man, and ever since has really 83 00:03:00,917 --> 00:03:05,249 been sort of a clearinghouse of stories related to Kecksburg 84 00:03:05,250 --> 00:03:06,874 and everything else. 85 00:03:06,875 --> 00:03:08,333 He sounds like a real treasure trove of information 86 00:03:08,458 --> 00:03:09,667 on this particular-- - For sure. 87 00:03:09,792 --> 00:03:11,291 area. 88 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:12,749 And the story may be bigger than Kecksburg itself. 89 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:15,166 And here's where we think it gets really interesting. 90 00:03:15,167 --> 00:03:17,707 Kecksburg itself is located in an area 91 00:03:17,708 --> 00:03:19,417 called the Chestnut Ridge. 92 00:03:19,542 --> 00:03:22,582 And Chestnut Ridge is a 100-mile long subrange 93 00:03:22,583 --> 00:03:24,749 of the Appalachians, where it turns 94 00:03:24,750 --> 00:03:27,666 out there are reports of all kinds of high strangeness. 95 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:29,875 We're also going to see another site 96 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,167 that's called Livermore. 97 00:03:31,292 --> 00:03:33,041 And Livermore is 45-minute drive, maybe 98 00:03:33,042 --> 00:03:34,624 50 miles away from Kecksburg. 99 00:03:34,625 --> 00:03:36,499 And the backstory of Livermore, 100 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:40,500 it's a historical-- it's sort of a pre-colonial settlement that 101 00:03:40,625 --> 00:03:43,207 was flooded and effectively destroyed. 102 00:03:43,208 --> 00:03:45,291 The story goes that there are reports 103 00:03:45,292 --> 00:03:48,457 of UFOs, of strange lights, of strange noises, 104 00:03:48,458 --> 00:03:51,332 of cryptids that seem to haunt the area. 105 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:54,374 The parallels between Skinwalker Ranch and the larger 106 00:03:54,375 --> 00:03:56,332 Chestnut Ridge centered around Kecksburg 107 00:03:56,333 --> 00:03:58,166 are just too many to ignore. 108 00:03:58,167 --> 00:03:59,832 I think we have some ambitious plans for this. 109 00:03:59,833 --> 00:04:01,291 Yeah. 110 00:04:01,292 --> 00:04:02,917 Well, I feel like this is a topic where-- 111 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:05,457 and an area where certainly an ambitious effort is warranted. 112 00:04:05,458 --> 00:04:07,167 Yeah. Can't wait to see what you find. 113 00:04:07,292 --> 00:04:08,041 Absolutely. 114 00:04:08,042 --> 00:04:09,457 Right on. 115 00:04:09,458 --> 00:04:10,416 We're excited to get out there. 116 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:11,542 Good luck, guys. 117 00:04:21,542 --> 00:04:24,707 To kick off their investigation at Chestnut Ridge, 118 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:28,458 Andy and Paul meet with Stan Gordon near the supposed crash 119 00:04:28,583 --> 00:04:32,333 site in Kecksburg to learn more about the alleged UFO 120 00:04:32,458 --> 00:04:35,416 incident that occurred in 1965. 121 00:04:35,417 --> 00:04:36,832 Thanks for having us. 122 00:04:36,833 --> 00:04:40,457 Well, here we are in the shadow of the UFO itself. 123 00:04:40,458 --> 00:04:42,000 Yeah, that's a replica 124 00:04:42,125 --> 00:04:45,374 of what witnesses said they saw that night back in 1965. 125 00:04:45,375 --> 00:04:47,207 I mean, this is the origin story 126 00:04:47,208 --> 00:04:49,166 of this whole region, right? 127 00:04:49,167 --> 00:04:50,832 I mean, this is where it all began. 128 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,832 This was the case that people remember and talk 129 00:04:52,833 --> 00:04:54,666 about throughout this area in Pennsylvania 130 00:04:54,667 --> 00:04:56,374 and even around the country. - Right. 131 00:04:56,375 --> 00:04:57,666 Can you tell me what happened? 132 00:04:57,667 --> 00:05:00,500 An object came in about 4:47 PM over 133 00:05:00,667 --> 00:05:02,124 the greater Pittsburgh area. 134 00:05:02,125 --> 00:05:04,832 The police departments, the radio and TV stations, 135 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:06,749 newspaper offices were jammed with phone calls 136 00:05:06,750 --> 00:05:09,041 from people seeing this brilliant, fiery object. 137 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:11,417 The witnesses who saw this thing that afternoon 138 00:05:11,542 --> 00:05:14,249 in this general area said it was moving very slowly, 139 00:05:14,250 --> 00:05:15,916 almost like it was controlled. 140 00:05:15,917 --> 00:05:18,082 And the people saw it go down said it did not come 141 00:05:18,083 --> 00:05:19,791 down at a high rate of speed. 142 00:05:19,792 --> 00:05:22,333 It came down almost like it was making a controlled landing. 143 00:05:22,458 --> 00:05:24,749 And who issued this official report? 144 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:25,833 Was it local police? 145 00:05:25,958 --> 00:05:26,957 Was it state police? 146 00:05:26,958 --> 00:05:29,375 Who was the last word on this? 147 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:35,624 And it wasn't until 1987 when I was holding 148 00:05:35,625 --> 00:05:38,499 a very large public display at the local mall, 149 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:41,499 and a man happened to walk by with his family. 150 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:43,042 And they said, I was on the search 151 00:05:43,167 --> 00:05:44,457 team that found the object. 152 00:05:44,458 --> 00:05:46,749 And what they found was not an aircraft. 153 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:50,499 And he said it was a large metallic acorn-shaped object 154 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:51,874 semi-buried in the ground. 155 00:05:51,875 --> 00:05:54,332 Although Stan and others have applied 156 00:05:54,333 --> 00:05:57,332 for government records surrounding what actually landed 157 00:05:57,333 --> 00:06:00,832 and was removed from Kecksburg, nothing substantial 158 00:06:00,833 --> 00:06:02,707 has ever been released. 159 00:06:02,708 --> 00:06:05,457 I think we just start with the impact site. 160 00:06:05,458 --> 00:06:07,416 Can you take us to that location? 161 00:06:07,417 --> 00:06:09,082 I can take you down to the wooded area 162 00:06:09,083 --> 00:06:10,375 where the object fell. 163 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,082 And, uh, there's two other fellows 164 00:06:12,083 --> 00:06:14,582 that I know from the local area who were witnesses that night 165 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:16,207 to different aspects of it. 166 00:06:16,208 --> 00:06:17,916 And they can meet us down there in the woods. 167 00:06:17,917 --> 00:06:18,582 Absolutely. 168 00:06:18,583 --> 00:06:21,499 That sounds fantastic. 169 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:24,249 With Stan in tow, Andy and Paul 170 00:06:24,250 --> 00:06:26,874 now make the short drive to the outskirts of town 171 00:06:26,875 --> 00:06:30,374 to the area suspected to be the UFO crash 172 00:06:30,375 --> 00:06:33,541 site, although the exact location of the landing 173 00:06:33,542 --> 00:06:35,624 remains a mystery. 174 00:06:35,625 --> 00:06:36,999 Hey, good morning, gentlemen. 175 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,624 Good morning. 176 00:06:38,625 --> 00:06:40,791 They're met by eyewitnesses Bill Weaver and Ron 177 00:06:40,792 --> 00:06:44,041 Struble to learn what the two men saw on the evening 178 00:06:44,042 --> 00:06:46,957 of December 9, 1965. 179 00:06:46,958 --> 00:06:50,500 Now, if I'm understanding correctly, then your research 180 00:06:50,625 --> 00:06:53,124 and the witnesses that you've spoken to place the objects 181 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:54,416 basically in this wash. 182 00:06:54,417 --> 00:06:55,332 Is that correct? 183 00:06:55,333 --> 00:06:56,666 Correct. 184 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:58,583 And then the experience that you gentlemen had 185 00:06:58,708 --> 00:07:01,042 confirms that this is the right patch of woods, 186 00:07:01,167 --> 00:07:03,957 but neither of you know firsthand where it landed? 187 00:07:03,958 --> 00:07:05,874 I was not down here, no. 188 00:07:05,875 --> 00:07:08,082 I came after it landed. 189 00:07:08,083 --> 00:07:09,166 It was a nice night. 190 00:07:09,167 --> 00:07:10,624 I had the top down. 191 00:07:10,625 --> 00:07:12,291 I was out for a ride. 192 00:07:12,292 --> 00:07:16,000 I seen there were some people standing alongside the road 193 00:07:16,125 --> 00:07:17,499 there, and I stopped. 194 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:19,542 They pointed back this way. 195 00:07:19,667 --> 00:07:24,624 The police and the military, they were all over the place. 196 00:07:24,625 --> 00:07:29,332 And there was guys out there in dark suits. 197 00:07:29,333 --> 00:07:32,124 They were the ones that seemed to be in charge. 198 00:07:32,125 --> 00:07:33,666 There was a large truck. 199 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:36,999 And out of that truck came a large box. 200 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,499 And they carried it down in the direction of where 201 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:43,582 this thing had come down. 202 00:07:43,583 --> 00:07:45,624 So you were up on the road watching all this? 203 00:07:45,625 --> 00:07:46,708 Yes. 204 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:48,207 You were not able to get down here? 205 00:07:48,208 --> 00:07:49,957 I was not down here, no. 206 00:07:49,958 --> 00:07:53,874 While we were standing there watching what was going on, 207 00:07:53,875 --> 00:07:58,457 the state police and the military come up to us 208 00:07:58,458 --> 00:08:00,499 and they told us, if you don't move, 209 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,417 we're going to confiscate your car. 210 00:08:02,542 --> 00:08:05,249 And I figured I'd better move. 211 00:08:06,125 --> 00:08:07,833 So I did. 212 00:08:07,958 --> 00:08:09,499 Ron, what do you recall from that night? 213 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:13,791 Well, we looked out our bedroom window in Greensburg, 214 00:08:13,792 --> 00:08:16,832 and we'd seen the orange streak in the sky. 215 00:08:16,833 --> 00:08:19,082 Within 20 minutes, we were out here. 216 00:08:19,083 --> 00:08:23,750 And the firemen was already up here with the, uh, road control 217 00:08:23,875 --> 00:08:26,082 to make sure that nobody got down in here. 218 00:08:26,083 --> 00:08:29,707 And I could see the military down in this hole. 219 00:08:29,708 --> 00:08:31,207 I mean, that's a very fast response. 220 00:08:31,208 --> 00:08:32,708 Right? 221 00:08:32,833 --> 00:08:34,999 I mean, is there a military base nearby? 222 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,249 I'm suspicious that this is National Guard. 223 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:38,832 They'd be the first ones called in. 224 00:08:38,833 --> 00:08:40,874 And then when I hear you talk about men in suits, 225 00:08:40,875 --> 00:08:42,541 the first thing that comes to my mind 226 00:08:42,542 --> 00:08:45,667 is some sort of administrative official, FBI. 227 00:08:45,792 --> 00:08:47,541 That would have come from further, though. 228 00:08:47,542 --> 00:08:49,417 That would have come from possibly Pittsburgh. 229 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:52,499 How did such a team converge on this location 230 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,042 in such a short period of time? - Yes. 231 00:08:54,208 --> 00:08:56,332 Certain elements of this story just 232 00:08:56,333 --> 00:08:57,708 aren't adding up. 233 00:08:57,833 --> 00:08:59,499 If it really was some sort of catastrophic disaster 234 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:01,957 like an airplane crash or a meteor strike, 235 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:03,582 it would take a long time for those people 236 00:09:03,583 --> 00:09:04,916 to get to the location. 237 00:09:04,917 --> 00:09:06,541 I mean, instead, what this sounds 238 00:09:06,542 --> 00:09:08,666 like is there was some sort of early warning system. 239 00:09:08,667 --> 00:09:10,832 Somebody was watching this long before it ever 240 00:09:10,833 --> 00:09:12,499 entered the atmosphere, and they were 241 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:14,666 able to project approximately where it would land. 242 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:16,457 That would give them enough of a head start 243 00:09:16,458 --> 00:09:18,166 to get military and government in motion 244 00:09:18,167 --> 00:09:21,832 to intercept the location and keep the public out. 245 00:09:21,833 --> 00:09:24,082 In the beginning, I was kind of a-- 246 00:09:24,083 --> 00:09:25,666 I wasn't a believer. 247 00:09:25,667 --> 00:09:29,082 But then later in life, I joined the fire service. 248 00:09:29,083 --> 00:09:33,832 And, uh, during that period up until now, 249 00:09:33,833 --> 00:09:35,875 I got to know the guys really well. 250 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,041 And, uh, they told me that they were here and some of them 251 00:09:40,042 --> 00:09:44,042 drove the trucks, and they were here during the incident. 252 00:09:44,167 --> 00:09:46,707 They went to their death bed stating that something 253 00:09:46,708 --> 00:09:49,750 did happen here in Kecksburg. 254 00:09:55,292 --> 00:09:56,208 Yeah, I feel like we have an opportunity 255 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:56,957 to do a survey of the area-- 256 00:09:56,958 --> 00:09:58,166 Yeah. 257 00:09:58,167 --> 00:09:59,916 with some of our equipment and see if we can't hone 258 00:09:59,917 --> 00:10:03,166 in data-wise on something that might be anomalous in the area. 259 00:10:03,167 --> 00:10:05,875 Andy and Paul are in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, 260 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,749 with investigators Stan Gordon and two surviving eyewitnesses 261 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:14,042 at the site of a possible UFO crash in 1965, 262 00:10:14,208 --> 00:10:17,582 that official reports said was a meteor strike. 263 00:10:17,583 --> 00:10:19,250 They're now going to look for any 264 00:10:19,375 --> 00:10:23,666 evidence that could shed light on this 60-year-old mystery. 265 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:26,083 We're just going to see if there's any sort of energy 266 00:10:26,208 --> 00:10:27,874 signature or anything else we can find out 267 00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:30,499 that might point more specifically to where this thing 268 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:32,041 might have come down. 269 00:10:32,042 --> 00:10:34,124 Andy and Paul will be using their spectrum 270 00:10:34,125 --> 00:10:38,875 analyzer and radiation meter to survey the alleged landing site. 271 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,957 They're looking for any abnormalities on the radio 272 00:10:41,958 --> 00:10:46,916 spectrum, specifically in the privileged 1.4 to 1.8 273 00:10:46,917 --> 00:10:50,749 gigahertz frequencies, reserved for Earth-to-space and 274 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:52,791 space-to-Earth transmissions. 275 00:10:52,792 --> 00:10:55,249 All right, are you seeing anything on the broad spectrum? 276 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:56,916 I'll tell you, it's very flat. 277 00:10:56,917 --> 00:10:58,707 Tiny little peaks. Oh, wow. 278 00:10:58,708 --> 00:10:59,582 That's a quiet spectrum for sure. 279 00:10:59,583 --> 00:11:01,166 Yeah. 280 00:11:01,167 --> 00:11:02,791 They're also testing for radiation levels 281 00:11:02,792 --> 00:11:05,500 above 20 microgram, which is double 282 00:11:05,625 --> 00:11:07,417 the average level in the US. 283 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:10,791 That could indicate some residual effects of the crash. 284 00:11:10,792 --> 00:11:12,791 So far, radiation is also showing 285 00:11:12,792 --> 00:11:14,417 very normal readings here. 286 00:11:14,542 --> 00:11:16,957 Yeah, you can hear, Andy, nothing on the Geiger. 287 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:17,916 It's all very consistent 288 00:11:17,917 --> 00:11:18,999 down here as well, man. 289 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,832 Yep. 290 00:11:19,833 --> 00:11:20,999 Anything above background? 291 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,541 No. 292 00:11:22,542 --> 00:11:24,500 You know, I wonder, it feels like we need to do 293 00:11:24,625 --> 00:11:27,041 some kind of broader survey. 294 00:11:27,042 --> 00:11:30,499 There might be some evidence here that's in the landscape. 295 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:34,249 We might be able to identify the exact location where this acorn 296 00:11:34,250 --> 00:11:37,666 landed, or potentially identify a location that 297 00:11:37,667 --> 00:11:39,249 explains why it landed here. 298 00:11:39,250 --> 00:11:41,874 Either it was here before and that's why it arrived, 299 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:45,917 or something that was left behind after the impact. 300 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:49,832 Yeah, it'd be nice for us to know what exactly did happen. 301 00:11:49,833 --> 00:11:51,957 We'll see if we can't move the dial 302 00:11:51,958 --> 00:11:53,875 and get some answers to those questions. 303 00:12:02,833 --> 00:12:04,666 Pete, I'm happy to have you here, man. 304 00:12:04,667 --> 00:12:07,791 We have got a mystery for you, for sure. 305 00:12:07,792 --> 00:12:10,207 Andy and Paul have called in Skinwalker veteran 306 00:12:10,208 --> 00:12:13,374 Pete Kelsey with his expertise and technology 307 00:12:13,375 --> 00:12:15,999 to conduct a thorough scan of the environment 308 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,624 surrounding the possible UFO landing 309 00:12:18,625 --> 00:12:20,416 in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. 310 00:12:20,417 --> 00:12:22,499 All I know is some kind of an impact site, right? 311 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:24,166 Right. 312 00:12:24,167 --> 00:12:25,666 From what we understand through third-hand information, 313 00:12:25,667 --> 00:12:26,666 the impact site might actually be in this 314 00:12:26,667 --> 00:12:28,499 wash area right behind us. 315 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:31,416 It sounds like this thing came down in this area, 316 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:32,417 right in here. 317 00:12:32,542 --> 00:12:33,999 We're not exactly sure where. 318 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,957 That's what we're hoping you can help us figure out. 319 00:12:35,958 --> 00:12:38,999 Well, as you guys know, typically, the tools 320 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,791 that I bring have to do with physical evidence 321 00:12:41,792 --> 00:12:43,167 right on the ground. 322 00:12:43,292 --> 00:12:44,999 I brought all the usual suspects, 323 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,957 LiDAR and the SLAM scanner. 324 00:12:46,958 --> 00:12:49,082 If one of you guys want to scan, I 325 00:12:49,083 --> 00:12:52,124 can be watching the data coming in on the tablet in real time. 326 00:12:52,125 --> 00:12:53,999 I'm happy to stomp around, sure. 327 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,707 Handheld LiDAR, also known as a SLAM scanner, 328 00:12:57,708 --> 00:13:00,416 uses laser light to map out an area. 329 00:13:00,417 --> 00:13:03,666 It measures the time it takes for the laser to bounce back 330 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:06,166 after hitting an object and uses that 331 00:13:06,167 --> 00:13:08,582 collected data to create a detailed 332 00:13:08,583 --> 00:13:11,374 3D model of the environment. 333 00:13:11,375 --> 00:13:15,332 I just want to make sure we see data and then you're off. 334 00:13:15,333 --> 00:13:16,374 I'm good to go. 335 00:13:16,375 --> 00:13:17,916 Here we go. 336 00:13:17,917 --> 00:13:20,999 LiDAR technology also has the ability 337 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,332 to strip away layers of vegetation 338 00:13:23,333 --> 00:13:26,416 to visualize the topography of a site, 339 00:13:26,417 --> 00:13:28,624 which can reveal areas not easily 340 00:13:28,625 --> 00:13:30,124 detected by the naked eye. 341 00:13:30,125 --> 00:13:31,832 We know we're looking for something 342 00:13:31,833 --> 00:13:33,499 that happened in the past. 343 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:34,999 We have these dense woods. 344 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,666 And we need a piece of tech that allows us to scrape 345 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:39,624 away the layers of the currents in order 346 00:13:39,625 --> 00:13:40,999 to get backwards in time. 347 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,624 And the SLAM scanner is exactly the kind of tool 348 00:13:42,625 --> 00:13:43,707 to make that happen. 349 00:13:43,708 --> 00:13:45,166 So that's top down. 350 00:13:45,167 --> 00:13:46,750 We've got a storm coming in. 351 00:13:46,875 --> 00:13:49,332 We do not have a lot of time. 352 00:13:49,333 --> 00:13:50,207 What do you think? 353 00:13:50,208 --> 00:13:51,332 Come back around? 354 00:13:51,333 --> 00:13:52,999 Yeah, I would do a loop. 355 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,457 Right where you are, I would do a loop. 356 00:13:55,458 --> 00:13:58,832 With high winds and an approaching storm, 357 00:13:58,833 --> 00:14:01,374 the team moves quickly to finish scanning 358 00:14:01,375 --> 00:14:03,625 the alleged landing site. 359 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:06,457 Guys, are we good? 360 00:14:06,458 --> 00:14:07,541 Good. 361 00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:08,707 Well done, sir. 362 00:14:10,042 --> 00:14:11,666 Their next plan of attack 363 00:14:11,667 --> 00:14:14,582 is to survey the area with drone LiDAR. 364 00:14:14,583 --> 00:14:18,957 However, with snow starting to fall and high winds, 365 00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:22,041 Pete is unable to safely fly the drone, 366 00:14:22,042 --> 00:14:25,582 so they'll regroup the next day to continue their investigation. 367 00:14:30,625 --> 00:14:34,874 The next morning, there is snowfall and persisting winds. 368 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:37,082 But the team is determined to conduct 369 00:14:37,083 --> 00:14:40,957 their drone LiDAR survey of the greater landing site area. 370 00:14:40,958 --> 00:14:42,832 As if this flight didn't make me 371 00:14:42,833 --> 00:14:45,499 nervous enough, just because of the weather. 372 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:47,166 Got it. 373 00:14:47,167 --> 00:14:50,957 This wind, I mean, there's a gust that's probably 25. 374 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:52,832 But we got to try. 375 00:14:52,833 --> 00:14:54,124 We're here. 376 00:14:54,125 --> 00:14:55,624 Maybe a little reckless, but curious. 377 00:14:55,625 --> 00:14:56,999 All right. 378 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,166 We need the data, so if you can get it up, 379 00:14:58,167 --> 00:14:59,666 Pete, that'd be greatly appreciated. 380 00:14:59,667 --> 00:15:01,457 Let's go. 381 00:15:01,458 --> 00:15:04,791 Pete Kelsey will use drone LiDAR technology 382 00:15:04,792 --> 00:15:08,999 to map the alleged UFO crash site with thousands of lasers 383 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,042 to create a topographical image of the area 384 00:15:12,167 --> 00:15:16,124 and potentially uncover hidden information about exactly 385 00:15:16,125 --> 00:15:18,375 where the UFO may have landed. 386 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,333 Take off. 387 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:26,666 The drone's flight path is pre-programmed in a grid 388 00:15:26,667 --> 00:15:31,166 pattern to cover the surrounding area near the purported crash. 389 00:15:31,167 --> 00:15:32,624 It's really deceptive. 390 00:15:32,625 --> 00:15:34,291 If it's blowing 30 down here, it's 391 00:15:34,292 --> 00:15:37,166 probably blowing 45 up there. 392 00:15:37,167 --> 00:15:39,332 All hot, straight and normal so far. 393 00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:41,166 Clear, blue sky. 394 00:15:41,167 --> 00:15:43,832 We've had three good passes already, Paul. 395 00:15:43,833 --> 00:15:46,457 Yeah, so far, so good. 396 00:15:46,458 --> 00:15:49,499 Are you kidding me? 397 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:50,624 OK. 398 00:15:50,625 --> 00:15:51,749 Um. 399 00:15:51,750 --> 00:15:52,666 What's going on, Pete? 400 00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:54,000 Is it pausing? 401 00:15:54,125 --> 00:15:55,292 Son of a [bleep]. 402 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:01,374 Yeah, so I've got dead stick. 403 00:16:01,375 --> 00:16:02,916 It's not responding? 404 00:16:02,917 --> 00:16:04,083 Yeah, dead stick. 405 00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:05,166 I've got no control of it. 406 00:16:05,167 --> 00:16:06,999 But fortunately, it's hovering. 407 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,332 The drone has stopped right 408 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:12,916 as it was about to survey the ravine, which is the supposed 409 00:16:12,917 --> 00:16:15,499 location of the UFO landing. 410 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:16,791 I can't do anything. 411 00:16:16,792 --> 00:16:18,500 Wait, so you can't even call it back? 412 00:16:18,625 --> 00:16:20,332 No, I'm stuck, at the moment. 413 00:16:30,667 --> 00:16:31,499 Son of a [bleep]. 414 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:32,832 It's not responding? 415 00:16:32,833 --> 00:16:33,749 Yeah, dead stick. 416 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:35,500 I've got no control. 417 00:16:35,625 --> 00:16:38,666 Andy and Paul are with Skinwalker veteran Pete Kelsey, 418 00:16:38,667 --> 00:16:42,541 who's using his drone LiDAR to help them potentially uncover 419 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:46,082 hidden information about exactly where the Kecksburg 420 00:16:46,083 --> 00:16:49,457 UFO may have landed in 1965. 421 00:16:49,458 --> 00:16:51,000 I can't do anything. 422 00:16:51,125 --> 00:16:52,667 Wait, so you can't even call it back? 423 00:16:52,833 --> 00:16:54,166 No, I'm stuck. 424 00:16:55,792 --> 00:16:59,166 However, Pete lost all control of his drone right 425 00:16:59,167 --> 00:17:01,875 when it flew over the suspected crash area. 426 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,874 Stranger still, all the diagnostics, 427 00:17:03,875 --> 00:17:09,832 avionics, batteries, everything is OK, but it's unresponsive. 428 00:17:09,833 --> 00:17:11,332 Unresponsive to you? 429 00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:13,041 Yeah, which is really concerning 430 00:17:13,042 --> 00:17:14,917 because I can't abort. 431 00:17:15,042 --> 00:17:16,624 And it's also ignoring 432 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:18,000 its pre-programmed route. 433 00:17:18,167 --> 00:17:19,499 Yeah, that's right. 434 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:21,457 It just froze. 435 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:23,583 Uh, uh, uh, uh. 436 00:17:23,708 --> 00:17:25,166 OK. 437 00:17:25,167 --> 00:17:26,999 What's it doing? 438 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,082 It's responding. 439 00:17:29,083 --> 00:17:29,999 Forgive me, guys. 440 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,000 I'm going to-- 441 00:17:31,125 --> 00:17:32,707 I've got to abort. 442 00:17:32,708 --> 00:17:34,499 Are you flying it home manually right now? 443 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:36,541 Yeah, I've got out of the mission 444 00:17:36,542 --> 00:17:38,207 because I don't trust it. 445 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:39,582 Have you seen that kind of phenomenon 446 00:17:39,583 --> 00:17:41,374 happen with your drone before? - No. 447 00:17:41,375 --> 00:17:42,833 What about on Skinwalker Ranch? 448 00:17:42,958 --> 00:17:44,624 Never. 449 00:17:44,625 --> 00:17:47,375 In order to preserve whatever data has been obtained, 450 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:50,750 as well as for the safety of the drone and those around it, 451 00:17:50,875 --> 00:17:52,624 the flight has been cut short. 452 00:17:52,625 --> 00:17:54,499 Because it's been acting weird, 453 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:57,291 let's be extra diligent on the landing here. 454 00:17:57,292 --> 00:17:58,875 OK. 455 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,417 Because if it goes rogue, that's pretty dangerous. 456 00:18:05,917 --> 00:18:07,374 What would explain that, Pete? 457 00:18:07,375 --> 00:18:09,500 What could have happened there? 458 00:18:09,625 --> 00:18:11,332 Oh, I wish I knew, man. 459 00:18:11,333 --> 00:18:14,457 I mean, that-- sorry, I'm just a little bit rattled 460 00:18:14,458 --> 00:18:15,832 because that's my livelihood. 461 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:16,957 Yeah. 462 00:18:16,958 --> 00:18:18,332 Yeah. 463 00:18:18,333 --> 00:18:20,166 And it just sort of did what it wanted to 464 00:18:20,167 --> 00:18:22,166 rather than what I was telling it to. 465 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:24,666 The good news is it's been scanning the whole time. 466 00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:28,249 So the scanner ran even though it was just sitting out there, 467 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:29,582 so we should have data. - OK. 468 00:18:29,583 --> 00:18:30,999 At least partial data. 469 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,457 - Yeah. - OK. 470 00:18:32,458 --> 00:18:34,999 Data that we can compare against this valley 471 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,666 and against the actual crash site. 472 00:18:36,667 --> 00:18:38,666 Well, I would love to get eyes on the data 473 00:18:38,667 --> 00:18:40,791 that you were able to collect, see if that can't 474 00:18:40,792 --> 00:18:42,207 point us in the next direction. 475 00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:43,999 - I'm going to get busy on that. - OK. 476 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,791 Thanks, Pete. 477 00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:48,416 While Pete processes the data from both LiDAR surveys 478 00:18:48,417 --> 00:18:51,332 of the Kecksburg crash site, Andy and Paul 479 00:18:51,333 --> 00:18:53,500 will now look into another hot spot 480 00:18:53,625 --> 00:18:57,874 25 miles northeast along the Chestnut Ridge, the abandoned 481 00:18:57,875 --> 00:19:01,332 town of Livermore, to investigate an even older 482 00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:04,666 mystery, which might shed light on whether the Kecksburg 483 00:19:04,667 --> 00:19:09,374 crash was caused by some greater anomaly in the region. 484 00:19:09,375 --> 00:19:13,374 They're here to meet Ron Murphy, a historian and investigator 485 00:19:13,375 --> 00:19:15,000 of the Livermore phenomena. 486 00:19:15,125 --> 00:19:16,542 All right, let's go check it out. 487 00:19:16,667 --> 00:19:18,250 Let's check it out. 488 00:19:18,375 --> 00:19:19,666 This is Livermore. 489 00:19:19,667 --> 00:19:22,291 It used to be a fairly big town at one time, 490 00:19:22,292 --> 00:19:23,791 if you can believe it. 491 00:19:23,792 --> 00:19:25,457 This is right after the French and Indian War, OK? 492 00:19:25,458 --> 00:19:27,374 So this is kind of the people that were living 493 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:28,666 out in the middle of nowhere. 494 00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:29,874 It's the frontier. 495 00:19:29,875 --> 00:19:31,457 This was definitely the frontier. 496 00:19:31,458 --> 00:19:35,041 There's a lot of things associated with, like, lights 497 00:19:35,042 --> 00:19:38,249 and things that are related to elemental type of beings 498 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:39,957 that are seen around here. 499 00:19:39,958 --> 00:19:43,916 One of the first times I've ever encountered one of these Earth 500 00:19:43,917 --> 00:19:45,332 lights was actually down here. 501 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:46,542 You have personally? 502 00:19:46,708 --> 00:19:47,957 I have personally, yes. 503 00:19:47,958 --> 00:19:49,332 "Earth lights" are the local term 504 00:19:49,333 --> 00:19:51,957 for ground level orb sightings, frequently 505 00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:53,374 encountered in the area. 506 00:19:53,375 --> 00:19:54,916 It was about 10 o'clock at night. 507 00:19:54,917 --> 00:19:57,541 My buddy and I, we were coming to this very bridge. 508 00:19:57,542 --> 00:20:00,250 And we went out to the center of the bridge 509 00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:04,291 until we turned from the bridge and looked back here. 510 00:20:04,292 --> 00:20:08,208 And right at the opening, we see a light emanate. 511 00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:09,999 It stayed on for maybe a second or two 512 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,292 and then it just faded out. 513 00:20:14,167 --> 00:20:16,624 Back in the late 1700s, there was said 514 00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:19,041 to be a witch that lived here, and then 515 00:20:19,042 --> 00:20:20,542 things started going wrong. 516 00:20:20,667 --> 00:20:23,667 Crops were failing, right, or babies are born deceased. 517 00:20:23,792 --> 00:20:25,249 So something was going on. 518 00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:26,749 You have to blame the witch, right? 519 00:20:26,750 --> 00:20:28,332 That's what everybody does. 520 00:20:28,333 --> 00:20:31,332 They grab her, put her onto a pole, and they burn her. 521 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:34,832 And as the flames lap up around her, she screams out, 522 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:38,791 I'm going to set a flood 100 years from this day to quench 523 00:20:38,792 --> 00:20:39,999 these flames about me. 524 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,499 And that was May 31, 1789. 525 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:47,332 May 31, 1889, the Johnstown flood comes through here 526 00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:49,582 and destroys the town. 527 00:20:49,583 --> 00:20:51,583 I want to point out, there's multiple floods that 528 00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,499 came through to the point that the Army Corps of Engineers 529 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:56,666 decided, we are going to put a dam in 530 00:20:56,667 --> 00:20:59,417 and these places that lie on the outlying areas 531 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:00,999 are just going to be flooded out. 532 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,332 So the town of Livermore 533 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:03,708 was destroyed by the flood-- Uh huh. 534 00:21:03,833 --> 00:21:05,333 -and then permanently submerged 535 00:21:05,458 --> 00:21:07,167 once the flood control project? Yes, sir. 536 00:21:07,292 --> 00:21:08,417 Right here. 537 00:21:08,542 --> 00:21:10,082 There's a lot below the surface. 538 00:21:10,083 --> 00:21:11,707 Yeah, it's wild, man. 539 00:21:11,708 --> 00:21:13,833 Now that I'm standing here and hearing the stories, 540 00:21:13,958 --> 00:21:15,791 hearing about the curses, hearing about just 541 00:21:15,792 --> 00:21:18,707 spooky and creepy history of this place, not to mention Ron's 542 00:21:18,708 --> 00:21:21,124 reaction to his own personal experiences here, 543 00:21:21,125 --> 00:21:23,916 I really can't help but wonder if I'm standing on a Skinwalker 544 00:21:23,917 --> 00:21:26,832 Ranch that's buried underwater. 545 00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:28,833 I'm curious about where you had this encounter. 546 00:21:28,958 --> 00:21:30,749 Well, right here is where it was. 547 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:32,541 - Started right here? - Yes, sir. 548 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:33,541 Yes, sir. 549 00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:35,207 How do you describe the Earth light? 550 00:21:35,208 --> 00:21:36,332 Just emanated, right? 551 00:21:36,333 --> 00:21:38,042 It just turned on. 552 00:21:38,167 --> 00:21:41,332 And it just kind of expanded and flickered off into nothing. 553 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:43,791 Often in conjunction with these lights that we see, 554 00:21:43,792 --> 00:21:47,999 preceding the lights appearing is the sound of wind chimes. 555 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,167 It's tonal. 556 00:21:49,292 --> 00:21:50,917 So it's usually about three tone. 557 00:21:51,042 --> 00:21:52,666 I don't play music or anything like that. 558 00:21:52,667 --> 00:21:54,666 One is almost like an establishing tone. 559 00:21:54,667 --> 00:21:57,291 The other one is a bit higher to the ear. 560 00:21:57,292 --> 00:21:59,041 And the other one is just a little bit 561 00:21:59,042 --> 00:22:01,749 lower than the establishing tone, if that makes any sense. 562 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:03,791 - So it precedes the phenomenon? - It precedes the phenomenon. 563 00:22:03,792 --> 00:22:05,083 Yes, sir. 564 00:22:05,208 --> 00:22:06,124 And you've heard that? 565 00:22:06,125 --> 00:22:06,916 I have. Oh, no, I've heard it. 566 00:22:06,917 --> 00:22:08,582 Yeah, absolutely. 567 00:22:08,583 --> 00:22:10,124 Heard it, witnessed it, and everything like that, yes. 568 00:22:10,125 --> 00:22:11,000 - On more than one occasion? - On more than one occasion. 569 00:22:11,167 --> 00:22:12,166 Yes, sir. Yeah. 570 00:22:12,167 --> 00:22:13,791 And there's nothing out here. 571 00:22:13,792 --> 00:22:15,541 What would make any kind of sound out here, 572 00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:17,708 especially a metallic sound like a wind chime? 573 00:22:17,833 --> 00:22:20,249 I wonder if we can try to recreate something for him 574 00:22:20,250 --> 00:22:22,332 and see if we, you know, can hit on it. 575 00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:23,416 I agree. 576 00:22:23,417 --> 00:22:24,583 All right, let's go. 577 00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:31,832 Ron, this is our setup. 578 00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:33,332 What do you think? - It's impressive. 579 00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:34,457 I don't know what any of this stuff means, 580 00:22:34,458 --> 00:22:36,124 but it's awesome-looking. Yeah. 581 00:22:36,125 --> 00:22:38,749 Andy and Paul are on a bridge above the flooded town 582 00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:41,999 of Livermore with local historian and investigator 583 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,583 Ron Murphy, who has witnessed orb phenomena referred 584 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:48,042 to as Earth lights, that have been preceded 585 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:50,499 by a sequence of sounds. 586 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:53,375 So Andy and I have worked with tones many times, 587 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,332 usually using them to try to trigger 588 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:57,042 something in the environment. 589 00:22:57,167 --> 00:22:59,791 My question is, is this going to have some kind of new effect 590 00:22:59,792 --> 00:23:01,166 on this environment? 591 00:23:01,167 --> 00:23:03,249 Was that a trigger that Ron experienced? 592 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,624 Was it sort of a harbinger of that event? 593 00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:08,207 I mean, we just have no idea how this is going to play out. 594 00:23:08,208 --> 00:23:10,666 So our UFODAP'S over here, stacked 595 00:23:10,667 --> 00:23:12,041 up one on top of the other. 596 00:23:12,042 --> 00:23:14,374 It is actually an extra set of eyes in the sky. 597 00:23:14,375 --> 00:23:16,249 And those are the green dots that you see out 598 00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:17,749 there flashing on the bridge. - Nice. 599 00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:19,666 We also have a directional antenna. 600 00:23:19,667 --> 00:23:21,124 Any radio signals, any frequencies 601 00:23:21,125 --> 00:23:23,624 that we see that may be coming anywhere in the area, 602 00:23:23,625 --> 00:23:26,624 we can actually hone in and zoom in on it with that antenna. 603 00:23:26,625 --> 00:23:28,957 Meanwhile, we have our Moonraker antenna here, 604 00:23:28,958 --> 00:23:31,500 which is connected to a spectrum analyzer, which is picking up 605 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:33,249 radio signals from all around. 606 00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:35,791 This gives us the ability to see if we're catching anything 607 00:23:35,792 --> 00:23:38,541 in the big net, and then, as Andy said, home in on it, 608 00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:40,499 pinpoint maybe what direction it's coming from 609 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:41,957 and figure out what the source is. 610 00:23:41,958 --> 00:23:43,166 Very impressive. 611 00:23:43,167 --> 00:23:44,207 I'm kind of excited to start seeing 612 00:23:44,208 --> 00:23:45,541 if we can't poke around a bit. 613 00:23:45,542 --> 00:23:48,291 Yeah, let's, uh, play some tones, I think. 614 00:23:48,292 --> 00:23:50,000 Earlier this season, the team 615 00:23:50,125 --> 00:23:52,667 played back an audio tone, replicating the sound 616 00:23:52,792 --> 00:23:55,082 of the infamous Taos Hum-- 617 00:23:55,083 --> 00:23:56,457 - Look at this. - Whoa. 618 00:23:56,458 --> 00:23:58,082 -and seemed to elicit a response 619 00:23:58,083 --> 00:24:00,999 on their spectrum analyzer in the privileged zone. 620 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,916 Look at how it's changing. 621 00:24:02,917 --> 00:24:04,332 Wow. 622 00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:06,624 Now, using their tone generator, 623 00:24:06,625 --> 00:24:10,499 Andy and Paul will mimic the three-tone sound Ron reported 624 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,832 hearing before seeing an orb to see 625 00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:16,624 if they can trigger some sort of response from the environment. 626 00:24:16,625 --> 00:24:19,833 And, Ron, you mentioned that you heard a series of tones, 627 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:20,791 right? 628 00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:21,499 Yeah. 629 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,332 And the tones preceded-- 630 00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:26,708 Preceded the arrival of the orbs. 631 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:28,750 I'm going to manually go through the tones. 632 00:24:28,875 --> 00:24:29,832 OK. 633 00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:31,166 I want you to stop me when you feel 634 00:24:31,167 --> 00:24:32,832 like we're in the right region. 635 00:24:32,833 --> 00:24:33,916 All right. 636 00:24:33,917 --> 00:24:35,791 And I'm calling on you 637 00:24:35,792 --> 00:24:36,708 to remember a sound, which is oftentimes difficult, but-- 638 00:24:36,833 --> 00:24:37,916 - OK. - All right, here we go. 639 00:24:37,917 --> 00:24:38,791 OK. 640 00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:45,166 Right about there. 641 00:24:47,375 --> 00:24:49,707 Right about there. 642 00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:52,666 That's very close to the initial ding that we heard 643 00:24:52,667 --> 00:24:54,499 and that what sounded like the wind chimes. 644 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,666 That right there is about-- and then it went higher, 645 00:24:56,667 --> 00:24:59,249 and then it went lower than that initial 210. 646 00:24:59,250 --> 00:25:02,041 Any way to play them in consecutively? 647 00:25:02,042 --> 00:25:03,750 Let's give it a whirl. 648 00:25:03,875 --> 00:25:05,916 Meanwhile, they will monitor the spectrum analyzer 649 00:25:05,917 --> 00:25:09,791 for any spikes in the privileged 1.4 to 1.8 650 00:25:09,792 --> 00:25:12,708 gigahertz radio frequency zone reserved 651 00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:16,499 for earth-to-space and space-to-earth transmissions. 652 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:17,749 All right. 653 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,999 But this is our baseline right now. 654 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,332 Steady. 655 00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:23,166 Quiet. 656 00:25:31,583 --> 00:25:32,416 Pretty close to that? 657 00:25:32,417 --> 00:25:33,249 Pretty close to it. 658 00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:34,374 Pretty close. 659 00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:35,500 Holy smokes! 660 00:25:35,625 --> 00:25:36,624 - Look at that. - Wow. 661 00:25:36,625 --> 00:25:38,207 Oh, look at how strong. 662 00:25:38,208 --> 00:25:41,832 This activity that's happening here, just under 1.6. 663 00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:44,666 1.57. 664 00:25:44,667 --> 00:25:49,332 Andy will now listen in on the 1.57 gigahertz signal 665 00:25:49,333 --> 00:25:51,500 they've seemingly triggered to see what 666 00:25:51,625 --> 00:25:53,124 communication is occurring. 667 00:25:55,167 --> 00:25:57,666 These sound like wind chimes, man. 668 00:25:57,667 --> 00:25:58,624 Kind of do. 669 00:25:58,625 --> 00:25:59,707 It sounds very tonal. 670 00:26:09,917 --> 00:26:11,541 It's just freaking me out. 671 00:26:11,542 --> 00:26:13,832 The bass tone, the higher tone, the lower tone, 672 00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:15,291 that's exactly what I heard. 673 00:26:15,292 --> 00:26:16,791 Exactly what I heard. 674 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:19,124 There's so many layers of strangeness. 675 00:26:19,125 --> 00:26:20,832 The first we heard of these three tones 676 00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:24,417 was that Ron heard them preceding this other series 677 00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:26,041 of events, these lights. 678 00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:27,832 So we tried to match those tones on the tone generator. 679 00:26:27,833 --> 00:26:29,082 We think we got pretty close. 680 00:26:29,083 --> 00:26:30,916 Ron said, yeah, that sounds like it. 681 00:26:30,917 --> 00:26:35,124 Now we're getting some strange signals and radio frequency 682 00:26:35,125 --> 00:26:36,666 that shouldn't be there. 683 00:26:36,667 --> 00:26:38,457 They sound like the tones, too. 684 00:26:38,458 --> 00:26:40,082 Is one triggering the other? 685 00:26:40,083 --> 00:26:41,583 Is there some kind of relationship 686 00:26:41,708 --> 00:26:43,416 here that we just don't understand? 687 00:26:43,417 --> 00:26:46,167 This is really getting interesting. 688 00:26:46,292 --> 00:26:48,250 So you know what I'd love to do, 689 00:26:48,375 --> 00:26:50,332 Paul, is I'd love to do a sweep of 360 degrees-- 690 00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:51,417 Yup. 691 00:26:51,542 --> 00:26:52,832 in our 1.6 gigahertz range. 692 00:26:52,833 --> 00:26:54,167 OK. 693 00:26:54,292 --> 00:26:55,916 After finding strange radio frequencies 694 00:26:55,917 --> 00:26:58,957 in the privileged zone, the team will now use their log 695 00:26:58,958 --> 00:27:01,749 periodic antenna in an attempt to zero 696 00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:04,167 in on the source of the signal they just triggered 697 00:27:04,292 --> 00:27:06,332 using the tone generator. 698 00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:10,666 By rotating the log periodic antenna 360 degrees, 699 00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:13,832 it can isolate and hone in on the exact direction 700 00:27:13,833 --> 00:27:16,207 a radio signal is coming from. 701 00:27:16,208 --> 00:27:18,957 So you can see that there's some activity here 702 00:27:18,958 --> 00:27:20,832 at about 1.6. 703 00:27:20,833 --> 00:27:23,583 If we see a spike, when he starts to move this, 704 00:27:23,708 --> 00:27:24,500 then that's interesting. 705 00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:25,499 All right. 706 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:26,832 All right, here we go. 707 00:27:26,833 --> 00:27:28,125 I'm going to go clockwise. 708 00:27:33,542 --> 00:27:34,832 Stop, Paul. Stop, Paul. 709 00:27:34,833 --> 00:27:35,541 Stop. 710 00:27:35,542 --> 00:27:37,583 Go back. 711 00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:39,750 And cross through that same zone again. 712 00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:44,624 There it is. That's it. 713 00:27:44,625 --> 00:27:45,916 Oh, wow. Yeah. 714 00:27:45,917 --> 00:27:46,749 See it all come to life? 715 00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:48,332 I do, I do. 716 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:49,542 You can see all this activity come to life over here 717 00:27:49,667 --> 00:27:51,207 as Paul crosses through this zone. 718 00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:54,249 So two massive questions come to mind for me right now. 719 00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:56,792 What is causing radio energy in this direction-- 720 00:27:56,917 --> 00:27:57,541 Right. 721 00:27:57,542 --> 00:27:58,957 question number one? 722 00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:00,750 Question number two, why is it transmitting 723 00:28:00,875 --> 00:28:02,207 energy at 1.6 gigahertz? 724 00:28:02,208 --> 00:28:03,999 Right. 725 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,417 This is a block of frequency that's reserved. 726 00:28:05,542 --> 00:28:07,249 It's all earth-to-space, space-to-earth communications. 727 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:08,708 OK. 728 00:28:08,833 --> 00:28:11,499 This is most definitely the heart of the energy. 729 00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:12,917 What's in this direction, Ron? 730 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:18,542 - No way. - Yeah. 731 00:28:18,667 --> 00:28:19,666 Kecksburg is this direction. 732 00:28:19,667 --> 00:28:20,666 Oh, absolutely. 733 00:28:20,667 --> 00:28:22,499 Yes, yes, yes. 734 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,250 That is wild, man. 735 00:28:24,375 --> 00:28:27,832 This mystery signal is coming from the direction 736 00:28:27,833 --> 00:28:30,832 of the mystery event in 1965. 737 00:28:30,833 --> 00:28:32,832 So we've got a signal coming from Kecksburg 738 00:28:32,833 --> 00:28:36,332 that seems to literally end at this bridge. 739 00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:39,166 I mean, I thought Kecksburg was interesting, right? 740 00:28:39,167 --> 00:28:41,832 But now that we've been here as well, I mean, 741 00:28:41,833 --> 00:28:44,042 there is something happening here in Chestnut Ridge. 742 00:28:52,125 --> 00:28:54,582 Andy and Paul return to Kecksburg 743 00:28:54,583 --> 00:28:57,166 to learn Pete Kelsey's handheld and drone 744 00:28:57,167 --> 00:28:59,874 LiDAR results from the possible UFO crash site. 745 00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:01,292 Pete, I'm really 746 00:29:01,417 --> 00:29:02,832 excited to see these results. 747 00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:04,874 I mean, it's taken quite a bit of work and adventure 748 00:29:04,875 --> 00:29:06,499 to get to this point. 749 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:08,332 Yeah, I mean, we've really been fighting the elements 750 00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:09,957 every step of the way here. 751 00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:12,167 They're joined by Chestnut Ridge investigator Stan 752 00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:14,999 Gordon and retired Kecksburg fire chief 753 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,375 and UFO eyewitness Ron Struble. 754 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,041 Well, you guys saw what happened with the drone LiDAR. 755 00:29:21,042 --> 00:29:21,957 Absolutely. 756 00:29:21,958 --> 00:29:23,167 Yeah, so I've got dead stick. 757 00:29:23,292 --> 00:29:24,832 It's not responding? 758 00:29:24,833 --> 00:29:25,916 I've got no control. 759 00:29:25,917 --> 00:29:27,166 I can't do anything. 760 00:29:27,167 --> 00:29:28,624 Wait, so you can't even call it back? 761 00:29:28,625 --> 00:29:30,166 No, I'm stuck. 762 00:29:30,167 --> 00:29:33,041 This gives you a good look at the extent of the data 763 00:29:33,042 --> 00:29:37,041 that I was able to capture from the air before it stopped. 764 00:29:37,042 --> 00:29:40,166 This is where it stopped, this farthest point away. 765 00:29:40,167 --> 00:29:42,832 Which is also in the same vicinity as where 766 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:45,791 you reported the actual craft itself crashing 767 00:29:45,792 --> 00:29:47,624 or landing in that valley. 768 00:29:47,625 --> 00:29:49,332 The failure happened before it 769 00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:50,999 even got over the ravine. 770 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,999 It's still just making its way across that big, open field, 771 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,875 getting to the ravine, and then-- 772 00:29:56,042 --> 00:29:58,082 Something pulled that drone off course. 773 00:29:58,083 --> 00:29:59,666 Something confused that drone before it 774 00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:02,166 could even get to the target spot where we were looking. 775 00:30:02,167 --> 00:30:03,374 Maybe, yeah. 776 00:30:03,375 --> 00:30:05,166 Who knows? 777 00:30:05,167 --> 00:30:07,833 We also did a ground-based LiDAR, 778 00:30:07,958 --> 00:30:10,499 so we should have more data from the ravine itself that 779 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:11,999 we collected on the ground. 780 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,417 So that looks like this. 781 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:20,166 Look at this right here. 782 00:30:20,167 --> 00:30:23,624 I cut my teeth in civil engineering and land surveying. 783 00:30:23,625 --> 00:30:25,457 That's manmade earthwork. 784 00:30:25,458 --> 00:30:31,332 Because it's level against this otherwise very steep slope. 785 00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:34,499 Straight lines, right angles, those kind of things 786 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,249 do not occur in nature, right? 787 00:30:36,250 --> 00:30:39,124 And then when you rotate the view, like I've done here, 788 00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:41,542 and you see it has a level bottom? 789 00:30:41,667 --> 00:30:44,666 I mean, this is right where we were walking. 790 00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:46,249 Right where you pointed us toward 791 00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:50,666 is this evidence, 60 years later, of that impact. 792 00:30:50,667 --> 00:30:52,166 We looked at it with our own eyes. 793 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:53,957 There's no level ground down there. 794 00:30:53,958 --> 00:30:57,542 So that's a remnant of something that's no longer visible. 795 00:30:57,667 --> 00:30:59,041 It was something I was going to ask. 796 00:30:59,042 --> 00:31:00,917 Was there heavy equipment in here 797 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:02,207 that would have had to been-- 798 00:31:02,208 --> 00:31:04,666 whatever it was, was it carted out? 799 00:31:04,667 --> 00:31:06,167 Yes? 800 00:31:06,333 --> 00:31:08,582 There were two military flatbed tractor trailers 801 00:31:08,583 --> 00:31:10,207 on the scene that night. 802 00:31:10,208 --> 00:31:11,999 What I understand is this, you could 803 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,374 not take that tractor trailer right down to the impact site. 804 00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:17,124 They had to winch it over. 805 00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:19,166 A crane would need a level spot. 806 00:31:19,167 --> 00:31:21,457 Yes. 807 00:31:21,458 --> 00:31:23,583 When you compare Pete's LiDAR data 808 00:31:23,708 --> 00:31:25,916 about what he is seeing in this ravine, 809 00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:28,083 and you contrast it with what Stan has reported, 810 00:31:28,208 --> 00:31:30,832 his research has shown about what happened here in Kecksburg, 811 00:31:30,833 --> 00:31:32,999 you really start to see corroborating evidence that 812 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,624 speaks to the fact that there really 813 00:31:34,625 --> 00:31:36,832 may have been something that happened at a specific point 814 00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:38,332 in this ravine. 815 00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:40,000 This is really just a few feet away from where 816 00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:41,457 Paul and I took baselines. 817 00:31:41,458 --> 00:31:43,291 This is worth going back and researching, 818 00:31:43,292 --> 00:31:45,791 whether or not there is actually a difference between the rest 819 00:31:45,792 --> 00:31:48,707 of the ravine and this specific point that Pete has identified. 820 00:31:48,708 --> 00:31:50,832 How does this make you guys feel? 821 00:31:50,833 --> 00:31:52,582 It gives us a little bit of hope 822 00:31:52,583 --> 00:31:55,832 that maybe someday we'll know what happened in Kecksburg. 823 00:31:55,833 --> 00:31:57,667 There were so many people involved. 824 00:31:57,792 --> 00:32:01,166 And so many people Ron knew, people I talked to, many of them 825 00:32:01,167 --> 00:32:03,166 went to their grave not knowing the truth. 826 00:32:03,167 --> 00:32:04,957 They all stuck by their story. 827 00:32:04,958 --> 00:32:06,499 Many of them took a lot of ridicule. 828 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:11,332 And, uh, they deserved to know the truth. 829 00:32:11,333 --> 00:32:14,499 Armed with new data detailing a potential manmade 830 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:18,082 feature only 20 feet away from where the team originally 831 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:22,332 investigated the rumored location of the 1965 UFO 832 00:32:22,333 --> 00:32:25,332 landing, Andy, Paul, and Pete decide 833 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:29,458 to go back to replicate their experiments in the exact spot. 834 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,499 This is it right here. 835 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:35,249 Up there, yeah. 836 00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:38,832 You see how it feels like a pad and sort of leveled out? 837 00:32:38,833 --> 00:32:42,582 And then it sort of ends abruptly right there. 838 00:32:42,583 --> 00:32:45,791 On their initial visit to the alleged location 839 00:32:45,792 --> 00:32:48,957 of the UFO crash, less than 20 feet away, 840 00:32:48,958 --> 00:32:51,874 there was zero activity on the radio spectrum. 841 00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:54,499 I'll tell you, it's very flat. 842 00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:56,166 Tiny little peaks. 843 00:32:56,167 --> 00:32:57,499 Oh, wow. It's a quiet spectrum for sure. 844 00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,207 Yeah. 845 00:32:59,208 --> 00:33:01,124 Now they'll check the radio spectrum, at the newly 846 00:33:01,125 --> 00:33:03,500 discovered area of interest. 847 00:33:03,625 --> 00:33:05,083 I'll pop the RF scanner. 848 00:33:08,958 --> 00:33:11,541 There's a peak at 1.638. 849 00:33:11,542 --> 00:33:12,666 Are they significant peaks? 850 00:33:12,667 --> 00:33:13,707 Oh, yeah, look at that. 851 00:33:13,708 --> 00:33:15,707 Yeah. 852 00:33:15,708 --> 00:33:17,457 1.74. 853 00:33:17,458 --> 00:33:19,999 That's not the same spectrum that we saw when 854 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,125 we were here the first time. 855 00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:22,291 Right. 856 00:33:22,292 --> 00:33:24,041 So, yeah, we've moved, what, 20 feet. 857 00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:25,457 Totally different spectrum. 858 00:33:25,458 --> 00:33:26,999 That's strange. 859 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,499 The one difference from here to there 860 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,291 is this is what it was indicated on the LiDAR 861 00:33:31,292 --> 00:33:34,624 as something unusual that maybe suggests that this 862 00:33:34,625 --> 00:33:36,124 is the actual impact site. 863 00:33:36,125 --> 00:33:37,833 But that would not explain how it could have such 864 00:33:37,958 --> 00:33:39,332 a different radio signature-- 865 00:33:39,333 --> 00:33:44,124 with nothing in between here and there. 866 00:33:44,125 --> 00:33:46,166 Unless it's hyper-localized, unless it exists here 867 00:33:46,167 --> 00:33:47,916 and doesn't exist over there, we could 868 00:33:47,917 --> 00:33:49,167 take the spectrum analyzer right over 869 00:33:49,292 --> 00:33:50,708 there and find out right now. - Yeah, that-- 870 00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:52,166 I mean, how could that be-- 871 00:33:52,167 --> 00:33:53,791 how could the signal differ across-- 872 00:33:53,792 --> 00:33:54,708 It shouldn't. 873 00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:55,791 such a short distance? 874 00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:57,416 We can test it. 875 00:33:57,417 --> 00:33:58,749 We can take it right over there and see if that same signal 876 00:33:58,750 --> 00:33:59,542 is present right now. 877 00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:00,582 OK. 878 00:34:00,583 --> 00:34:01,499 Let's just walk it up. 879 00:34:19,833 --> 00:34:20,957 Look. 880 00:34:20,958 --> 00:34:22,624 It actually did completely change. 881 00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:23,417 Wow! 882 00:34:23,542 --> 00:34:24,749 Pete, look at this. 883 00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:28,166 It actually did completely change. 884 00:34:28,167 --> 00:34:29,374 It's totally different. 885 00:34:29,375 --> 00:34:30,541 It's dead. 886 00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:31,124 It's a completely-- 887 00:34:31,125 --> 00:34:31,999 Completely flat. 888 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,499 different signal. 889 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:34,999 Look at that. 890 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,582 We've gone, what, 20 feet? 891 00:34:36,583 --> 00:34:38,457 That's unbelievable. 892 00:34:38,458 --> 00:34:42,499 That's, like, not within the realm of possible, 893 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:43,332 right? 894 00:34:43,333 --> 00:34:44,166 No, no. 895 00:34:44,167 --> 00:34:45,624 That makes-- I'm-- 896 00:34:46,625 --> 00:34:48,499 I'm stunned. 897 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:49,582 I want my mommy. 898 00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:53,999 This doesn't make any sense. 899 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,332 How is there a radio signal in one place 900 00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:58,249 that doesn't exist just a few feet away? 901 00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:59,957 That's not how radio energy works. 902 00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:01,457 That's not how frequencies work. 903 00:35:01,458 --> 00:35:03,332 The only reason that we were brought here 904 00:35:03,333 --> 00:35:04,999 was because of Pete's LiDAR data. 905 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,666 And now that we're here, we're getting even more evidence that 906 00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:09,374 suggests that there really was something 907 00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:11,166 strange that happened on this spot, 908 00:35:11,167 --> 00:35:13,250 in this ravine in Kecksburg. 909 00:35:13,375 --> 00:35:16,624 We might have actually found the real crash site. 910 00:35:16,625 --> 00:35:21,874 That might explain why we have so many localized anomalous 911 00:35:21,875 --> 00:35:23,957 readings right here that we don't see 912 00:35:23,958 --> 00:35:25,582 anywhere else in this valley. 913 00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,666 Thanks, Pete, for pointing that out in the LiDAR. 914 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:29,541 We would have never found this otherwise. 915 00:35:29,542 --> 00:35:30,666 Yeah. 916 00:35:30,667 --> 00:35:32,332 Yeah, this is a great find. 917 00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:33,624 Amazing. 918 00:35:33,625 --> 00:35:34,500 Yeah, we've got to share this with Travis and Erik. 919 00:35:34,625 --> 00:35:35,583 Absolutely. 920 00:35:42,375 --> 00:35:43,666 Well, guys, welcome back to the ranch. 921 00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:44,833 I want to hear about your findings at Chestnut Ridge. 922 00:35:44,958 --> 00:35:46,291 I think it exceeded our expectations. 923 00:35:46,292 --> 00:35:47,542 Mhm. 924 00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:49,249 But it left so many more questions than answers. 925 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:50,916 If you recall, we went out there first 926 00:35:50,917 --> 00:35:55,457 to dig into what happened in Kecksburg in 1965, the reported 927 00:35:55,458 --> 00:35:58,832 landing or crashing of some sort of acorn-shaped object 928 00:35:58,833 --> 00:35:59,999 from the sky. 929 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,542 So we called in Pete Kelsey. 930 00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:04,499 And Pete was able to run aerial LiDAR 931 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,457 and walk a ground-based SLAM scanner along with us 932 00:36:07,458 --> 00:36:10,124 so that we could really saturate the area with data. 933 00:36:10,125 --> 00:36:11,667 And then when we did get Pete's results-- 934 00:36:11,792 --> 00:36:12,999 Yeah. 935 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,582 they were really quite telling. 936 00:36:14,583 --> 00:36:16,583 So Pete's actually waiting online to give us a walkthrough 937 00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:17,791 of what he discovered. 938 00:36:17,792 --> 00:36:20,332 Pete, you got me, man? 939 00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:21,999 Hey, Andy. How are you? 940 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,124 Hey, good to see you, sir. 941 00:36:23,125 --> 00:36:24,166 Hey, Pete. 942 00:36:24,167 --> 00:36:25,832 Hey, everybody's there. 943 00:36:25,833 --> 00:36:28,041 Do you have the LiDAR results from the SLAM scanner nearby? 944 00:36:28,042 --> 00:36:29,166 Yeah. 945 00:36:29,167 --> 00:36:31,582 So this is the SLAM scanner data. 946 00:36:31,583 --> 00:36:36,166 If I rotate past horizontal, this right here, I mean, 947 00:36:36,167 --> 00:36:39,832 right away was like, OK, that's unusual. 948 00:36:39,833 --> 00:36:44,832 I mean, literally a rectangle of graded level ground. 949 00:36:44,833 --> 00:36:46,249 OK, yeah, I see. 950 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:48,374 Why is it level? 951 00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:51,124 It just suggests made earthworks. 952 00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:52,333 Oh, yeah. 953 00:36:52,458 --> 00:36:54,124 But, uh, this looks 954 00:36:54,125 --> 00:36:57,082 like there's some sort of excavation 955 00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:58,666 that took place in that spot. 956 00:36:58,667 --> 00:37:00,332 And for there to have been so many 957 00:37:00,333 --> 00:37:02,291 witnesses that led you to that spot, 958 00:37:02,292 --> 00:37:05,374 it really is very, uh, suspect. 959 00:37:05,375 --> 00:37:06,667 Yeah. 960 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:09,166 Um, one other thing I'd like to show you. 961 00:37:09,167 --> 00:37:14,082 So this has me shaking my head, my friends, again, 962 00:37:14,083 --> 00:37:17,707 because we've got data underground. 963 00:37:17,708 --> 00:37:18,457 See this? 964 00:37:18,458 --> 00:37:19,749 There it is. 965 00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:22,041 That's clearly below ground right there. 966 00:37:22,042 --> 00:37:23,541 How far underground is that? 967 00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:25,624 Oh, at 100 feet. 968 00:37:25,625 --> 00:37:26,832 It's impossible. 969 00:37:26,833 --> 00:37:29,000 I mean, here we go again, right? 970 00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:32,291 Lasers can't see through solid ground. 971 00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:33,749 Now, see, that tells us 972 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:37,250 that the computer system in the LiDAR 973 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:40,499 believes that those particular points 974 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:45,875 took longer to get back to the receiver than it actually did. 975 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,707 Yeah, that data identifies a very unique point in space 976 00:37:50,708 --> 00:37:54,333 and time during the scan that is exceptional to, 977 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:55,999 you know, versus everything else. 978 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,999 You know, where have we seen this before? 979 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,124 We've seen it at the Highway 350 bridge at Miller Ranch. 980 00:38:02,125 --> 00:38:03,541 Triangle. 981 00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:04,832 We've seen it at Skinwalker Ranch. 982 00:38:04,833 --> 00:38:05,749 Mhm. 983 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:07,249 Yeah, that's right. 984 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:09,582 Maybe we're on to something that nobody's 985 00:38:09,583 --> 00:38:11,499 ever really figured out before. 986 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:13,417 To my knowledge, this is probably 987 00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,708 the first time anybody's ever done a LiDAR measurement there. 988 00:38:15,833 --> 00:38:19,332 Any place that I get LiDAR returns underground, 989 00:38:19,333 --> 00:38:20,832 that's interesting. 990 00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:21,833 Thanks, Pete. 991 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,166 Thank you, guys. 992 00:38:23,167 --> 00:38:24,667 It made us ask ourselves the question 993 00:38:24,792 --> 00:38:27,416 in that specific depression, that site 994 00:38:27,417 --> 00:38:29,207 that Pete's LiDAR found, what else 995 00:38:29,208 --> 00:38:30,832 could we measure in that site? 996 00:38:30,833 --> 00:38:34,207 So we went back down there and we took an RF spectrum analyzer. 997 00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:36,166 We are literally standing in the indented site 998 00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:38,207 that Pete identified in his data. 999 00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:40,957 There was a peak at 1.638. 1000 00:38:40,958 --> 00:38:42,667 - Look at that. - Yeah. 1001 00:38:42,792 --> 00:38:44,499 That's not the same spectrum that we saw when 1002 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:45,999 we were here the first time. Right. 1003 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,291 Totally different spectrum. 1004 00:38:47,292 --> 00:38:48,874 That's strange. 1005 00:38:48,875 --> 00:38:51,083 And this is the spectrum analyzer, readings that we're 1006 00:38:51,208 --> 00:38:53,582 getting, which are completely different than the baseline 1007 00:38:53,583 --> 00:38:56,000 readings we got in the ravine earlier 1008 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:57,666 when we first arrived to Kecksburg. 1009 00:38:57,667 --> 00:38:59,374 Tiny little peaks. Oh, wow. 1010 00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:01,207 It's a quiet spectrum for sure. Yeah. 1011 00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:03,499 Where was the ravine in relation to this point? 1012 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:05,332 We're going to show you here. 1013 00:39:05,333 --> 00:39:07,082 We can test it. 1014 00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:08,291 We can take it right over there and see if that same signal 1015 00:39:08,292 --> 00:39:09,166 is present right now. 1016 00:39:09,167 --> 00:39:10,167 OK. 1017 00:39:10,292 --> 00:39:11,292 Let's just walk it up. 1018 00:39:15,792 --> 00:39:17,332 Pete's like-- 1019 00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:18,666 look at him. 1020 00:39:18,667 --> 00:39:20,417 Pete's expression says it all. 1021 00:39:20,542 --> 00:39:22,832 I can see the confusion through his shades. 1022 00:39:22,833 --> 00:39:23,749 Yes. 1023 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:25,457 He's like, what? 1024 00:39:25,458 --> 00:39:26,832 Because we're walking, what-- you can see-- 1025 00:39:26,833 --> 00:39:27,666 20 feet? 1026 00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:28,499 Yeah. 1027 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,332 OK. 1028 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:30,666 Look at that. 1029 00:39:30,667 --> 00:39:32,166 It actually did completely change. 1030 00:39:32,167 --> 00:39:33,042 Wow! 1031 00:39:33,208 --> 00:39:34,332 Pete, look at this. 1032 00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:37,916 It actually did completely change. 1033 00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:38,999 It's totally different. 1034 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,499 It's dead. 1035 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,124 See, that right there is fantastic data. 1036 00:39:43,125 --> 00:39:45,332 Look at that. 1037 00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:47,249 We've gone, what, 20 feet? 1038 00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:48,666 That's unbelievable. 1039 00:39:48,667 --> 00:39:50,832 So I'd like to stop you here and ask a question. 1040 00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:54,957 What I just watched was contiguous footage? 1041 00:39:54,958 --> 00:39:56,082 Mhm. Yup. 1042 00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:57,332 There was no cut. 1043 00:39:57,333 --> 00:39:59,208 There was no editorial process there. 1044 00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:00,542 That is correct. 1045 00:40:00,667 --> 00:40:02,166 Physically walked, in my hand, 20 feet. 1046 00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:03,791 That's it. 1047 00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:07,832 You dropped, uh, 55 dB in 20 feet. 1048 00:40:07,833 --> 00:40:09,582 I mean, you've got the numbers right here. 1049 00:40:09,583 --> 00:40:11,500 55 dB, that's ginormous change. 1050 00:40:11,625 --> 00:40:13,042 Orders of magnitude. 1051 00:40:13,167 --> 00:40:14,791 Many orders of magnitude change. 1052 00:40:14,792 --> 00:40:17,749 And here's another piece that should be the opposite of this. 1053 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:19,499 You guys were down in a hole. 1054 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:20,791 Right. - Right? 1055 00:40:20,792 --> 00:40:21,624 In a ravine. 1056 00:40:21,625 --> 00:40:23,499 And you walked uphill. 1057 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:25,332 The signal should have got stronger as you walked uphill 1058 00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:28,166 because there's less terrain blocking from wherever it could 1059 00:40:28,167 --> 00:40:30,416 be coming from, unless it's coming from down there 1060 00:40:30,417 --> 00:40:31,999 in that hole. 1061 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,332 What is this signal doing there? 1062 00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:35,750 That doesn't add up. 1063 00:40:39,333 --> 00:40:41,291 That-- that is just too much. 1064 00:40:41,292 --> 00:40:42,666 Here on the ranch when we get it, 1065 00:40:42,667 --> 00:40:44,832 we usually see some kind of phenomena occur. 1066 00:40:44,833 --> 00:40:48,082 We see something we expect, OK, somehow or other, 1067 00:40:48,083 --> 00:40:50,749 the source is with whatever this is, or this is causing it. 1068 00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:52,666 It's a byproduct or something. 1069 00:40:52,667 --> 00:40:54,332 This looks like it's just coming out of the dadgum ground. 1070 00:40:54,333 --> 00:40:55,624 Right. 1071 00:40:55,625 --> 00:40:56,957 Or it's a beam coming from somewhere 1072 00:40:56,958 --> 00:40:58,332 else hitting the ground. 1073 00:40:58,333 --> 00:41:00,916 So this is-- that shouldn't be there. 1074 00:41:00,917 --> 00:41:04,208 Anyway, whatever that is, it shouldn't be there. 1075 00:41:04,333 --> 00:41:05,624 Either we've got something active, 1076 00:41:05,625 --> 00:41:09,666 something energizing that space in the RF today, 1077 00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:13,957 and for who knows how long, or we've got some kind of residual 1078 00:41:13,958 --> 00:41:15,167 from the event. 1079 00:41:15,292 --> 00:41:16,916 So what you have shown 1080 00:41:16,917 --> 00:41:20,166 is there is something very odd about that particular point 1081 00:41:20,167 --> 00:41:21,582 in Kecksburg. 1082 00:41:21,583 --> 00:41:23,207 You're talking about getting 1083 00:41:23,208 --> 00:41:26,166 concrete evidence of something-- what did you say, 60 years? 1084 00:41:26,167 --> 00:41:27,832 60 years ago. 1085 00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:30,499 Did a little beacon fall off of whatever that acorn-shaped 1086 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:31,666 thing was and it's still-- 1087 00:41:31,667 --> 00:41:32,499 A 60-year battery. 1088 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:34,000 with a 60-year-- 1089 00:41:34,125 --> 00:41:35,667 yeah, right? 1090 00:41:35,792 --> 00:41:37,666 I'm thinking right now of all sorts of different things 1091 00:41:37,667 --> 00:41:39,707 that we need to go back and do. 1092 00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:42,541 This place, to me, is absolutely fascinating and bizarre. 1093 00:41:42,542 --> 00:41:44,291 I mean, I would love to say that we're 1094 00:41:44,292 --> 00:41:45,624 scratching the surface. 1095 00:41:45,625 --> 00:41:46,457 I feel like we're just tapping on the surface. 1096 00:41:46,458 --> 00:41:48,082 Yeah, yeah. 1097 00:41:48,083 --> 00:41:49,457 The more and more you guys do, the more and more 1098 00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:50,666 we realize we don't know. 1099 00:41:50,667 --> 00:41:52,249 That's exactly what I was feeling. 1100 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:53,624 Good work, guys. 1101 00:41:53,625 --> 00:41:54,666 I didn't think you were going to come back 1102 00:41:54,667 --> 00:41:55,999 with this, that's for sure. 1103 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,832 Yeah. 1104 00:41:56,833 --> 00:41:58,332 Neither did we. 1105 00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:00,250 Yeah, can't wait to see what you guys do next. 82652

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