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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,533 --> 00:00:02,700 ANNOUNCER: The following program contains content 2 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:05,433 which may not be suitable for all audiences. 3 00:00:05,433 --> 00:00:07,233 Viewer discretion is advised. 4 00:00:13,566 --> 00:00:16,766 President-elect Nixon today named Dr. Henry Kissinger, 5 00:00:16,766 --> 00:00:18,766 the German-born Harvard professor, 6 00:00:18,766 --> 00:00:20,400 as his White House policy adviser 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,066 on defense and foreign affairs. 8 00:00:22,066 --> 00:00:24,200 ROGER MORRIS: In 1968, 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,733 when Henry Kissinger was named national security adviser, 10 00:00:27,733 --> 00:00:30,866 he was not at all well-known, 11 00:00:30,866 --> 00:00:32,733 and certainly not as famous or as celebrated 12 00:00:32,733 --> 00:00:34,833 as he would become. 13 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:37,633 I enthusiastically accept this assignment 14 00:00:37,633 --> 00:00:40,633 and I shall serve the president-elect 15 00:00:40,633 --> 00:00:43,466 with all my energy and dedication. 16 00:00:44,433 --> 00:00:46,833 SAM HOSKINSON: There was something about him that was different, 17 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:48,033 like the way he talked. 18 00:00:48,033 --> 00:00:50,433 I have tried to avoid labels 19 00:00:50,433 --> 00:00:52,900 like "hard" and "soft." 20 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:55,600 HOSKINSON: Here's this Harvard professor, 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,700 kind of a nerd, nerdish guy, 22 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:02,000 that became one of the most powerful men in the world. 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,266 KISSINGER: I believe that what America does 24 00:01:04,266 --> 00:01:07,066 is of great consequence to the peace of the world 25 00:01:07,066 --> 00:01:09,333 and to the progress of humanity. 26 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:11,600 NIALL FERGUSON: He entered the realm of power 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,166 and bestrode it as a geopolitical colossus. 28 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:18,333 BEN RHODES: He had enormous power, 29 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:20,733 more power than any unelected official 30 00:01:20,733 --> 00:01:22,800 probably in the history of this country. 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,766 JEREMI SURI: And the moments he lashes out most 32 00:01:24,766 --> 00:01:26,633 are the moments he feels powerless. 33 00:01:26,633 --> 00:01:28,933 We are not talking about an attack on a neutral country. 34 00:01:28,933 --> 00:01:33,366 BARBARA KEYS: The secrecy, the lying, the denial of reality, 35 00:01:33,366 --> 00:01:34,866 those are all Kissingerian. 36 00:01:34,866 --> 00:01:37,266 GREG GRANDIN: I don't think that he had much concern 37 00:01:37,266 --> 00:01:40,033 for the human costs of his actions. 38 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:42,700 KISSINGER: The question about the relationship 39 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:45,500 of morality to foreign policy 40 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:47,600 is a very complex one. 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,133 RICHARD HAASS: I don't think he'd deny 42 00:01:49,133 --> 00:01:51,166 that he overlooked certain human rights. 43 00:01:51,166 --> 00:01:54,133 He would just say, "There were other factors at stake." 44 00:01:54,133 --> 00:01:57,866 KISSINGER: Sometimes statesmen have to choose among evils. 45 00:01:57,866 --> 00:02:00,600 ROHAM ALVANDI: He wasn't trying to win a popularity contest. 46 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,833 He was trying to implement his ideas. 47 00:02:02,833 --> 00:02:04,933 (shouting) KISSINGER: I believe we have an obligation 48 00:02:04,933 --> 00:02:06,633 to prevent the totalitarians 49 00:02:06,633 --> 00:02:10,133 from taking over the world by force. 50 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:12,066 PETER KORNBLUH: Yes, he was brilliant. 51 00:02:12,066 --> 00:02:14,200 But in the end, his legacy is about 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,000 the number of people-- 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,033 and we're talking hundreds of thousands-- 54 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:21,433 that died because of the arrogance of his policy. 55 00:02:22,966 --> 00:02:25,633 FERGUSON: Nobody before or since 56 00:02:25,633 --> 00:02:29,966 has played such an important role in American foreign policy. 57 00:02:29,966 --> 00:02:33,866 We've had to recognize it's Henry Kissinger's world. 58 00:02:33,866 --> 00:02:36,133 (phone ringing) 59 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:40,966 ♪ ♪ 60 00:02:44,666 --> 00:02:48,400 ♪ ♪ 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,600 (explosions pounding) 62 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:58,966 ♪ ♪ 63 00:02:58,966 --> 00:03:02,100 (explosions pounding) 64 00:03:04,766 --> 00:03:07,433 (shouting) 65 00:03:21,833 --> 00:03:23,833 PROGRAM NARRATOR: Tonight, Henry Kissinger 66 00:03:23,833 --> 00:03:25,733 talks about war and peace 67 00:03:25,733 --> 00:03:28,500 and about his decisions at the height of his powers. 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,633 KISSINGER: I was brought up in a totalitarian society, 69 00:03:34,633 --> 00:03:38,433 and therefore I had perhaps a better sense 70 00:03:38,433 --> 00:03:41,566 for the fragility of institutions, 71 00:03:41,566 --> 00:03:44,966 and for the potential evil 72 00:03:44,966 --> 00:03:48,566 that can break forth when restraints disappear. 73 00:03:48,566 --> 00:03:52,000 (people shouting) 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,666 FERGUSON: One has to remember that Henry Kissinger 75 00:03:54,666 --> 00:03:56,966 was born at a time 76 00:03:56,966 --> 00:03:59,833 when Germany was in a state 77 00:03:59,833 --> 00:04:02,233 of near-revolutionary upheaval. 78 00:04:03,833 --> 00:04:05,433 ALVANDI: In the 1920s, 79 00:04:05,433 --> 00:04:09,100 the economic crisis of hyperinflation 80 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:11,266 that engulfs Weimar Germany, 81 00:04:11,266 --> 00:04:15,600 combined with the sense of grievance 82 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,333 about the terms imposed on Germany 83 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:18,666 after the First World War, 84 00:04:18,666 --> 00:04:21,400 generates the rise 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,066 of a very vicious right-wing fascist movement... 86 00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:26,300 ALL: Heil! 87 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:28,966 ALVANDI: ...for whom Jews are the scapegoats. 88 00:04:30,533 --> 00:04:34,466 And the Kissingers, like a lot of German Jews, 89 00:04:34,466 --> 00:04:39,533 had no sense of what was going to come for them in the 1930s. 90 00:04:39,533 --> 00:04:41,333 MAN: Heil! CROWD (responding): Heil! 91 00:04:41,333 --> 00:04:42,966 Heil! Heil! 92 00:04:42,966 --> 00:04:45,000 Heil! Heil! 93 00:04:47,666 --> 00:04:50,933 (church bells ringing) 94 00:04:50,933 --> 00:04:53,633 ♪ ♪ 95 00:04:53,633 --> 00:04:56,700 FERGUSON: Fürth in Bavaria had 96 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:01,000 a significant Jewish population in the 1920s. 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,966 Heinz Kissinger is born 98 00:05:03,966 --> 00:05:07,166 into one of the Orthodox families in Fürth, 99 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:13,133 and grows up in a middle-class Jewish household. 100 00:05:14,166 --> 00:05:16,933 Heinz had two distinctive features: 101 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:20,666 a brilliant mind and indefatigable energy. 102 00:05:20,666 --> 00:05:25,833 Well, if he got the brilliance from his father, Louis, 103 00:05:25,833 --> 00:05:30,900 he got that endless energy from his mother, Paula. 104 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:32,100 Their Jewishness is serious-- 105 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:33,666 they're Orthodox, they're kosher-- 106 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:36,733   but in terms of their work and education lives, 107 00:05:36,733 --> 00:05:38,800 they see themselves integrated in German culture. 108 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,333 ANGUS REILLY: Despite his later reputation, 109 00:05:41,333 --> 00:05:43,166 he's not a particularly studious child. 110 00:05:43,166 --> 00:05:45,666 His mother complains that him and Walter 111 00:05:45,666 --> 00:05:47,833 are always running away from kindergarten. 112 00:05:47,833 --> 00:05:50,666 PAULA KISSINGER: Henry was born in '23 113 00:05:50,666 --> 00:05:52,766 and Walter was born in '24. 114 00:05:52,766 --> 00:05:55,133 And they were terrible naughty 115 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:57,066 and hard to handle. 116 00:05:57,066 --> 00:05:59,000   DAVID KISSINGER: He always said that he was 117 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,400 a gregarious, fairly frivolous young man. 118 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,800   And he maintained that he had a rather happy childhood. 119 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,133 (shouting) 120 00:06:09,133 --> 00:06:13,466 (band playing) 121 00:06:13,466 --> 00:06:16,633 FERGUSON: But the childhood came to an abrupt end 122 00:06:16,633 --> 00:06:20,266 with the rise of the Nazis. 123 00:06:20,266 --> 00:06:22,633 (people shouting) 124 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:27,266 (speaking German): 125 00:06:30,833 --> 00:06:32,033   ALVANDI: The Jewish community, 126 00:06:32,033 --> 00:06:34,266 which had been very well integrated 127 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:37,300 into a fairly liberal and cultured Germany, 128 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:38,933 suddenly finds itself 129 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:44,400 the target of the wrath of the German right. 130 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,933 For people like the Kissingers, this is a shock. 131 00:06:47,933 --> 00:06:51,933 There is a deep reluctance 132 00:06:51,933 --> 00:06:56,100 to believe the depth that this depravity can reach. 133 00:06:58,333 --> 00:07:01,566 THOMAS SCHWARTZ: Kissinger remembered that when he and his brother 134 00:07:01,566 --> 00:07:04,366 would take their bicycles to go visit their grandfather, 135 00:07:04,366 --> 00:07:08,033 he would see the signs saying "Jews are not wanted here." 136 00:07:08,033 --> 00:07:10,033 And Kissinger commented later 137 00:07:10,033 --> 00:07:12,233 about how everything seemed changed. 138 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:16,566 KISSINGER: I was prohibited to go to German schools. 139 00:07:16,566 --> 00:07:21,200 All the German people with whom my parents associated 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,600   more or less cut off all contact with us. 141 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,500 (speaking German): 142 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:36,000 KISSINGER: A policy of segregation for Jewish people was created, 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,033 and my father lost his job. 144 00:07:39,033 --> 00:07:41,466 MAN: Sieg! CROWD: Heil! 145 00:07:41,466 --> 00:07:43,166 MAN: Sieg! CROWD: Heil! 146 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:45,233 MAN: Sieg! CROWD: Heil! 147 00:07:45,233 --> 00:07:48,100 REILLY: Because Louis is an employee of the German state, 148 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:49,633 he is sacked, 149 00:07:49,633 --> 00:07:52,466 and it, it devastates him. 150 00:07:52,466 --> 00:07:54,466 He got so much fulfillment 151 00:07:54,466 --> 00:07:55,833 out of his job as a teacher, 152 00:07:55,833 --> 00:07:58,400 and then suddenly he was bereft, he was lost, 153 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,800 and he withdraws in on himself, 154 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,133 and Kissinger feels distanced from his father. 155 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:08,933 KISSINGER: My father was a teacher and not a practical man. 156 00:08:10,300 --> 00:08:12,366 And he was sort of paralyzed 157 00:08:12,366 --> 00:08:16,166 in the face of the evil the Nazis represented. 158 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:21,266 ALVANDI: I can't imagine how destabilizing 159 00:08:21,266 --> 00:08:24,300 and terrifying it must have been for Kissinger to see 160 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:28,800 that world around him that he so admired turning against him, 161 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,366 that a society that was 162 00:08:31,366 --> 00:08:34,466 seemingly so civilized, so refined 163 00:08:34,466 --> 00:08:38,833 could descend into this kind of madness. 164 00:08:38,833 --> 00:08:42,400 REILLY: There is a sense of a lost world 165 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,433 that he'll never be able to return to. 166 00:08:45,433 --> 00:08:48,333 His childhood featured that profound loss of innocence, 167 00:08:48,333 --> 00:08:52,466 of joy and prosperity 168 00:08:52,466 --> 00:08:53,700 and, and ease. 169 00:08:55,133 --> 00:09:00,466 KISSINGER: That was a wrench in my life that had a deep impact on me. 170 00:09:00,466 --> 00:09:02,733 It was the possibility 171 00:09:02,733 --> 00:09:05,300 that what had given you security 172 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:06,733 could disintegrate. 173 00:09:08,233 --> 00:09:10,066 (speaking German) 174 00:09:10,066 --> 00:09:13,200 (crowd responds) 175 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,566 (band playing, people singing) 176 00:09:15,566 --> 00:09:18,200 KISSINGER: My mother was extremely practical, 177 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,766 and she decided that they should leave Germany. 178 00:09:21,766 --> 00:09:24,500 My father didn't object. 179 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:28,866 PAULA KISSINGER: I was mainly afraid for the children. 180 00:09:28,866 --> 00:09:32,400 You saw that they were so isolated. 181 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:37,900   REILLY: In 1938, they leave. 182 00:09:37,900 --> 00:09:39,933 They take a couple of trunks 183 00:09:39,933 --> 00:09:41,966 with a few precious personal items, 184 00:09:41,966 --> 00:09:43,566 and then they have to leave everything behind. 185 00:09:43,566 --> 00:09:46,866 FERGUSON: The Kissingers left in the nick of time, 186 00:09:46,866 --> 00:09:51,666 just weeks before the huge pogrom 187 00:09:51,666 --> 00:09:54,500 that we know as Kristallnacht, the Night of Broken Glass. 188 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:58,266 (glass shattering, flames crackling) 189 00:09:58,266 --> 00:10:02,633 REILLY: Mobs across Germany torch Jewish homes, 190 00:10:02,633 --> 00:10:04,333 they attack Jewish people in the streets, 191 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:05,666 they destroy synagogues. 192 00:10:05,666 --> 00:10:07,466 (people shouting, objects shifting) 193 00:10:07,466 --> 00:10:11,400 And in Fürth, they drag as many Jews as they can 194 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,533 to the town center. 195 00:10:12,533 --> 00:10:14,633 And they have to stand there and watch 196 00:10:14,633 --> 00:10:16,733 as the synagogue burns to the ground. 197 00:10:16,733 --> 00:10:19,366 (flames crackling) 198 00:10:19,366 --> 00:10:23,633 ♪ ♪ 199 00:10:23,633 --> 00:10:27,800 ALVANDI: The Kissingers are not spared the Holocaust in Germany. 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,900 Kissinger loses 13 members of his family in the Holocaust, 201 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:37,800 and I think for Kissinger, it generated a deep pessimism 202 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:43,266 about the idea that norms and rules are going to protect you. 203 00:10:43,266 --> 00:10:44,700 Really, at the end of the day, the only thing 204 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,400 that's going to protect you is power. 205 00:10:48,333 --> 00:10:51,066 (bell ringing, gulls squawking) 206 00:10:53,233 --> 00:10:56,866 KISSINGER: There was this cousin of mine who brought us here, 207 00:10:56,866 --> 00:11:01,400 and when we arrived by boat, 208 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,400 as we came down the gangplank, 209 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,566 he said, "Your name now is Henry." 210 00:11:08,733 --> 00:11:12,366 REILLY: The Kissingers settle in Washington Heights, 211 00:11:12,366 --> 00:11:14,966 which has a large community of German Jews. 212 00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:18,466 It's known as Frankfurt on the Hudson, or the Fourth Reich. 213 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:21,866 And they try and build a life 214 00:11:21,866 --> 00:11:24,566 that, to an extent, mirrors the one they've left. 215 00:11:26,366 --> 00:11:28,033 KISSINGER: They didn't have any money. 216 00:11:28,033 --> 00:11:30,700 My brother and I slept in the living room. 217 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:32,833 We had no privacy. 218 00:11:32,833 --> 00:11:36,366 But I did not feel that I was suffering. 219 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:41,566 The challenge, of course, was to arrive 220 00:11:41,566 --> 00:11:43,966 in the United States in the Depression. 221 00:11:43,966 --> 00:11:47,966 That was why Henry Kissinger had to get a job. 222 00:11:49,166 --> 00:11:52,200 (car horns honking) 223 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,366 ♪ ♪ 224 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:57,233 DAVID KISSINGER: He worked in a shaving brush factory. 225 00:11:57,233 --> 00:11:58,633 He went to night school. 226 00:11:58,633 --> 00:12:02,500 He didn't have the opportunity to have a lot of fun, 227 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:05,033 but he also 228 00:12:05,033 --> 00:12:08,033 seems to have felt an enormous sense of relief 229 00:12:08,033 --> 00:12:10,566 because he didn't have to cross the street 230 00:12:10,566 --> 00:12:14,000 to get away from kids who would beat him up. 231 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,233 He starts to study 232 00:12:16,233 --> 00:12:18,433 and he immerses himself 233 00:12:18,433 --> 00:12:21,100 in the very vital life 234 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:24,533 of New York City in the late 1930s. 235 00:12:24,533 --> 00:12:27,300 DAVID KISSINGER: I think he fell in love with New York 236 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:28,500 very quickly. 237 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:29,933 He fell in love with baseball. 238 00:12:29,933 --> 00:12:33,300 (crowd cheering) 239 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:35,233 And he fell in love with my mother. 240 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:39,466 My mother's name is Anneliese Cohen. 241 00:12:39,466 --> 00:12:42,300 They very quickly started dating, 242 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:47,300 and it became a very sweet, dedicated relationship. 243 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:50,900 They had been through the same kind of trauma, 244 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:53,666 but they shared a desire 245 00:12:53,666 --> 00:12:57,366 to turn the disaster that they had experienced 246 00:12:57,366 --> 00:13:00,166 into a life of meaning. 247 00:13:00,166 --> 00:13:03,633 But I think it was the Army that truly gave him 248 00:13:03,633 --> 00:13:07,233 the confidence that he could be a true American. 249 00:13:07,233 --> 00:13:11,900 (explosions roaring) 250 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:13,900 REPORTER: The attack was carried out 251 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:16,433 by Jap torpedo planes together with dive bombers. 252 00:13:16,433 --> 00:13:18,533 REILLY: Kissinger is at a football game, 253 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:20,333 and he comes out and sees 254 00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:21,633 the newspaper boy 255 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:23,566 with the headline saying "Pearl Harbor Attacked." 256 00:13:23,566 --> 00:13:26,500 And he, he doesn't have any idea where Pearl Harbor is. 257 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,866 NEWSCASTER: Immediate response from the youth of America. 258 00:13:28,866 --> 00:13:31,200 Army, Navy, and Marine recruiting stations 259 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,600 close to overflowing. 260 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,800 FERGUSON: Most teenagers pretty quickly 261 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,500 figured out that they might not be interested in war, 262 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:41,233 but war was likely going to be interested in them. 263 00:13:41,233 --> 00:13:42,933 FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT: The second number 264 00:13:42,933 --> 00:13:47,966 which has just been drawn is 192. 265 00:13:47,966 --> 00:13:51,866 SINGERS: ♪ This is the Army, Mr. Green ♪ 266 00:13:51,866 --> 00:13:55,766 FERGUSON: The U.S. Army was not 267 00:13:55,766 --> 00:13:59,600 a tremendously discerning institution 268 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,566 in the early phase of World War II. 269 00:14:03,566 --> 00:14:09,033 It took its young men from wherever it could 270 00:14:09,033 --> 00:14:11,266 and from wherever they'd come from. 271 00:14:11,266 --> 00:14:13,200 ♪ ♪ 272 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,200 REILLY: He's drafted in 1943 273 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,066 and he's sent to a rifle company 274 00:14:17,066 --> 00:14:19,400 in the 84th Infantry Division, the Railsplitters. 275 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,633 ♪ ♪ 276 00:14:22,633 --> 00:14:27,300 FERGUSON: Initially, the young Henry Kissinger found himself 277 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:32,066 in this extraordinary melting pot 278 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:37,433 of young men in training camps that were spartan, 279 00:14:37,433 --> 00:14:39,166 to put it mildly. 280 00:14:39,166 --> 00:14:41,733 KISSINGER: I thought it was a tremendous experience, 281 00:14:41,733 --> 00:14:44,566 not every minute of which I enjoyed, 282 00:14:44,566 --> 00:14:46,000 but I now think 283 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,433 it was one of the most important experiences of my life. 284 00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:51,466 I had never met any really native-born Americans, 285 00:14:51,466 --> 00:14:53,833 and these people from the Midwest 286 00:14:53,833 --> 00:14:56,200 were very tolerant and friendly, 287 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,000 and I got to know America as a result of serving in the Army. 288 00:15:02,033 --> 00:15:05,966 ♪ ♪ 289 00:15:05,966 --> 00:15:10,000 FILM NARRATOR: These are the men who served in the 84th Infantry Division, 290 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 a division that distinguished itself 291 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,833 in a series of critical engagements during World War II. 292 00:15:14,833 --> 00:15:16,733 REILLY: Kissinger lands in France 293 00:15:16,733 --> 00:15:18,166 five months after D-Day, 294 00:15:18,166 --> 00:15:19,966 in November 1944, 295 00:15:19,966 --> 00:15:21,966 and someone clearly recognizes 296 00:15:21,966 --> 00:15:23,300 his linguistic talents, 297 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:25,800 and he's put into the counterintelligence part 298 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,033 of the 84th Infantry Division. 299 00:15:31,166 --> 00:15:33,400 FERGUSON: It's not long after D-Day 300 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,133 that Kissinger finds himself 301 00:15:35,133 --> 00:15:38,733 in one of the great battles of the war in Europe, 302 00:15:38,733 --> 00:15:40,000 the Battle of the Bulge. 303 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,466 (firing) 304 00:15:43,466 --> 00:15:45,000 The fighting was hard. 305 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,100 The Germans put up stiff resistance. 306 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:50,233 The casualties were high. 307 00:15:52,466 --> 00:15:55,000 (firing) 308 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,566 REILLY: The 84th is trapped in a Belgian town, 309 00:15:57,566 --> 00:15:59,033 Marche-en-Famenne. 310 00:15:59,033 --> 00:16:01,733 (explosion pounds) 311 00:16:01,733 --> 00:16:04,233 And Kissinger works in the courthouse 312 00:16:04,233 --> 00:16:06,633 with the general and other staff 313 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:08,100 monitoring everything 314 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,766 and helping to organize the defense of the town. 315 00:16:10,766 --> 00:16:13,233 It was especially dangerous for Kissinger, 316 00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:17,233 because as a German Jew by birth, 317 00:16:17,233 --> 00:16:21,800 he risked execution if he were captured. 318 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,866 (explosion roars) 319 00:16:27,766 --> 00:16:29,233 After the Battle of the Bulge, 320 00:16:29,233 --> 00:16:33,633 the 84th Infantry Division heads towards the city of Hanover, 321 00:16:33,633 --> 00:16:35,933 where they come across Ahlem concentration camp, 322 00:16:35,933 --> 00:16:37,633 and it is a horrendous place. 323 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,000 ♪ ♪ 324 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,233 FILM NARRATOR: Out of a thousand Polish men brought here 325 00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:50,933 ten months prior to April 1945, 326 00:16:50,933 --> 00:16:52,600 only 200 remained. 327 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,866 Prisoners who could walk were removed 328 00:16:54,866 --> 00:16:56,933 before American troops entered Hanover. 329 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:58,933 The others were left to starve and die. 330 00:16:58,933 --> 00:17:03,533 REILLY: Horrified, they radio to the headquarters, 331 00:17:03,533 --> 00:17:05,966 which is where Kissinger is, and he drives up. 332 00:17:07,266 --> 00:17:10,866 And they come into this camp, 333 00:17:10,866 --> 00:17:14,366 and Kissinger is just staggered by it. 334 00:17:18,066 --> 00:17:19,266 FILM NARRATOR: When questioned, 335 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:20,733 most of these men could not remember 336 00:17:20,733 --> 00:17:22,700 when they'd last eaten a decent meal. 337 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:25,266 Many had been beaten and tortured so long, 338 00:17:25,266 --> 00:17:26,300 their minds had failed. 339 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:29,700 DAVID KISSINGER: My father described his experience 340 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:32,933 liberating the Ahlem concentration camp 341 00:17:32,933 --> 00:17:38,033 as something that words could not entirely communicate. 342 00:17:38,033 --> 00:17:41,566 KISSINGER (dramatized): As our Jeep traveled down the street, 343 00:17:41,566 --> 00:17:45,200 skeletons in striped suits lined the road. 344 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,266 Cloth seemed to fall from the bodies. 345 00:17:49,266 --> 00:17:51,666 The heads were held up by a stick 346 00:17:51,666 --> 00:17:54,066 that once might have been a throat. 347 00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:58,133 Poles hang from the sides where arms should be. 348 00:17:59,666 --> 00:18:02,633 I see my friend enter one of the huts 349 00:18:02,633 --> 00:18:05,133 and come out with tears in his eyes. 350 00:18:06,633 --> 00:18:08,800 "Don't go in there. 351 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,366 We had to kick them to tell the dead from the living." 352 00:18:14,133 --> 00:18:15,800 REILLY: To him, it always was 353 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,000 the most horrendous thing that he'd ever seen. 354 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,533 FILM NARRATOR: The victims relate the atrocity story 355 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:22,533 and photographs are made for further documentation 356 00:18:22,533 --> 00:18:24,566 of the horrors committed at the Hanover camp. 357 00:18:24,566 --> 00:18:28,200 REILLY: The power of knowing 358 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,866 that it could have been him in that camp. 359 00:18:32,566 --> 00:18:35,166 That stays with Henry Kissinger. 360 00:18:35,166 --> 00:18:37,000 FILM NARRATOR: The deaths continue 361 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,866 even after liberation of the camp. 362 00:18:38,866 --> 00:18:41,700 Some were too far gone when the Americans took over. 363 00:18:42,966 --> 00:18:47,266 DAVID KISSINGER: It was an illustration for him that strength was 364 00:18:47,266 --> 00:18:51,300 an unavoidable facet of resisting evil. 365 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:56,333 That the attempt to deal with evil through compromise... 366 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,633 ...sometimes was not enough. 367 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:03,033 (typewriter keys clacking) 368 00:19:03,033 --> 00:19:05,533 REILLY: After the war, Kissinger writes to the mother 369 00:19:05,533 --> 00:19:07,433 of an old friend of his from Fürth 370 00:19:07,433 --> 00:19:09,566 who had survived a concentration camp, 371 00:19:09,566 --> 00:19:13,866 and he writes to warn her of 372 00:19:13,866 --> 00:19:16,700 what her son will now be like. 373 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:19,866 KISSINGER (dramatized): I feel it necessary to write to you. 374 00:19:19,866 --> 00:19:22,500 I think a completely erroneous picture 375 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:24,300 exists in the United States 376 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:27,866 of the former inmates of the concentration camps. 377 00:19:27,866 --> 00:19:30,533 REILLY: Kissinger writes, "He has not only suffered, 378 00:19:30,533 --> 00:19:32,433 "but he has lived an anarchic world 379 00:19:32,433 --> 00:19:34,133 "in which it's survival of the fittest, 380 00:19:34,133 --> 00:19:36,033 "in which there is no order, 381 00:19:36,033 --> 00:19:37,766 "there is no structure 382 00:19:37,766 --> 00:19:39,300 or sense of society." 383 00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:43,566 KISSINGER (dramatized): Concentration camps were not only mills of death, 384 00:19:43,566 --> 00:19:46,166 they were also testing grounds. 385 00:19:46,166 --> 00:19:50,000 REILLY: It's a warning that morality has its limits, 386 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,400 and that this was about power and strength and survival, 387 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,433 above all else. 388 00:19:55,733 --> 00:19:58,233 KISSINGER (dramatized): The intellectuals, the idealists, 389 00:19:58,233 --> 00:20:01,066 the men of high morals had no chance. 390 00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:03,600 It was a necessity to follow through 391 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,333 with a singleness of purpose, 392 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:08,933 inconceivable to you sheltered people in the States. 393 00:20:08,933 --> 00:20:10,133 (typewriter carriage slides) 394 00:20:10,133 --> 00:20:12,333 (film reel clicking) 395 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:17,833 FILM NARRATOR: The problem now is future peace. 396 00:20:17,833 --> 00:20:21,166 That is your job in Germany. 397 00:20:21,166 --> 00:20:23,366 You'll see ruins, 398 00:20:23,366 --> 00:20:25,833 you'll see flowers, 399 00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:28,633 you'll see some mighty pretty scenery. 400 00:20:28,633 --> 00:20:30,733 Don't let it fool you. 401 00:20:30,733 --> 00:20:33,266 You are in enemy country. 402 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,933 Be alert, suspicious of everyone. 403 00:20:35,933 --> 00:20:37,666 Take no chances. 404 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,233 FERGUSON: Germany in 1945 405 00:20:41,233 --> 00:20:43,166 was in a state of collapse. 406 00:20:43,166 --> 00:20:46,333 FILM NARRATOR: Proven war criminals must answer for their crimes. 407 00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:48,500 (gun fires) 408 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:54,200 FERGUSON: As a member of the Counter Intelligence Corps, 409 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,966 Kissinger had to find out, who were the Nazis? 410 00:20:58,966 --> 00:21:03,900 So Kissinger went from fighting Germans 411 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:06,166 to trying to understand them. 412 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:07,766 FILM NARRATOR: Somewhere in this Germany 413 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:10,400 are storm troopers by the thousands. 414 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,433 Out of sight, part of the mob, 415 00:21:13,433 --> 00:21:16,866 but still watching you and hating you. 416 00:21:16,866 --> 00:21:19,100 Trust none of them. 417 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,066 DAVID KISSINGER: At a very young age, 418 00:21:21,066 --> 00:21:24,266 my father was given enormous authority 419 00:21:24,266 --> 00:21:27,333 over an area around Hanover 420 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:30,433 to apprehend high-ranking Nazis. 421 00:21:34,733 --> 00:21:38,133 KISSINGER: My job was to arrest all Nazis 422 00:21:38,133 --> 00:21:41,266 above a certain level. 423 00:21:41,266 --> 00:21:43,600 (speaking German) 424 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,900 KISSINGER: At that time, of course, 425 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:47,500 every German claimed that he hadn't been a Nazi. 426 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,900 REILLY: For someone so young, it's a lot of responsibility, 427 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:52,733 and he carries out the job effectively. 428 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:56,533 FERGUSON: It's a rather extraordinary thought 429 00:21:56,533 --> 00:22:01,166 that the young 22-, 23-year-old Henry Kissinger 430 00:22:01,166 --> 00:22:03,900 is in this position of power 431 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:06,266 over the very people 432 00:22:06,266 --> 00:22:09,533 who had been murdering his relatives, 433 00:22:09,533 --> 00:22:13,733 the very people who had driven his family across the Atlantic. 434 00:22:13,733 --> 00:22:16,166 There's no vengeance in Kissinger. 435 00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:19,000 He is not searching 436 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,033 for some kind of feeling of righteous vindication. 437 00:22:23,033 --> 00:22:26,500 He is not a black and white person. 438 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,566 He lives in the gray area in between. 439 00:22:35,433 --> 00:22:37,333 ("Fair Harvard" playing) 440 00:22:37,333 --> 00:22:38,733 FILM NARRATOR: Fair Harvard, 441 00:22:38,733 --> 00:22:42,100 thy sons to thy jubilee throng. 442 00:22:44,033 --> 00:22:47,000 And with blessings surrender thee o'er. 443 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:51,066 REILLY: Kissinger enters Harvard on the G.I. Bill, 444 00:22:51,066 --> 00:22:53,633 alongside millions of other new college students 445 00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:55,866 who had served in the military. 446 00:22:55,866 --> 00:23:00,600 And Kissinger is determined to take his own experiences 447 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,833 and hit the ground running. 448 00:23:01,833 --> 00:23:05,633 ♪ ♪ 449 00:23:05,633 --> 00:23:07,166 FERGUSON: He was the proverbial 450 00:23:07,166 --> 00:23:08,566 young man in a hurry. 451 00:23:09,666 --> 00:23:11,700 DAVID KISSINGER: He tried many different subjects. 452 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:16,666 For a while, he was on track to be a chemistry professor. 453 00:23:16,666 --> 00:23:19,700 He also flirted with going to law school. 454 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:22,466 But ultimately, 455 00:23:22,466 --> 00:23:25,733 his fascination with history and government prevailed. 456 00:23:25,733 --> 00:23:29,200 The old regime in France was tyrannical, oppressive... 457 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,566 KISSINGER: Insofar as one could learn anything in preparation 458 00:23:31,566 --> 00:23:33,633 for a high governmental position, 459 00:23:33,633 --> 00:23:36,800 I think a study of history is the best preparation. 460 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,600 SCHWARTZ: He was definitely someone who was determined 461 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,233 to conquer academia 462 00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:44,300 through sheer hard work and labor, 463 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:46,700 not someone who joined college activities, 464 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:48,066 joined college clubs. 465 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,033 DAVID KISSINGER: He was very rigorous about just 466 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:54,533 using all of his time for his studies. 467 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,366 ALVANDI: He is the guy who's in the library 24/7, 468 00:23:59,366 --> 00:24:01,666 squirreled away in his dorm, 469 00:24:01,666 --> 00:24:04,066 reading from dawn to dusk, 470 00:24:04,066 --> 00:24:06,733 and so most of his Harvard contemporaries 471 00:24:06,733 --> 00:24:08,966 barely remember him. 472 00:24:08,966 --> 00:24:10,866 He manages to sneak in a dog. 473 00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:12,400 (dog barks) And I think that's pretty much 474 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,300 his only friend there, by all accounts. 475 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:16,166 REILLY: And then Kissinger writes 476 00:24:16,166 --> 00:24:19,833 his undergraduate thesis, "The Meaning of History." 477 00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:21,000 "The Meaning of History." 478 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,266 "The Meaning of History." 479 00:24:22,266 --> 00:24:24,200 Yes, the famous "Meaning of History." 480 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,466 (typewriter keys clacking) 481 00:24:25,466 --> 00:24:28,233 (carriage slides, bell dings) 482 00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:32,433 An extraordinarily detailed and philosophical thesis, 483 00:24:32,433 --> 00:24:35,500 which grapples with the big questions of human life, 484 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,300 human meaning, the meaning of history. 485 00:24:40,333 --> 00:24:43,533 FERGUSON: It was the longest senior thesis in Harvard history. 486 00:24:43,533 --> 00:24:46,000 (typewriter keys clacking) 487 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,200 ALVANDI: It was so long that Harvard had to introduce a rule 488 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,600 that dissertations had to be, 489 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,000 you know, within a certain word limit. 490 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,066 (laughs) 491 00:24:53,066 --> 00:24:54,366 "The Meaning of History" 492 00:24:54,366 --> 00:24:58,100 is extraordinary, but undisciplined, unedited, 493 00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,700 and 494 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:00,766 confusing. 495 00:25:00,766 --> 00:25:02,533 I have read it. 496 00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:04,833 If you ask me if I understand it, 497 00:25:04,833 --> 00:25:07,300 I would bet, want to punt that question, 498 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,400 but it produces a summa cum laude degree 499 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,400 and admission to the graduate program 500 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,066 in government and history. 501 00:25:15,533 --> 00:25:17,433 He spends many, many years at Harvard, 502 00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:23,033 and he's just this very frustrated young PhD graduate 503 00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:26,133 who is kind of trying to find a place for himself, 504 00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:27,833 so what he does is, 505 00:25:27,833 --> 00:25:30,333 he kind of invents a place for himself. 506 00:25:30,333 --> 00:25:33,666 REILLY: He studies the policies of European statesmen 507 00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:35,000 after the fall of Napoleon 508 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,833 and their attempts 509 00:25:36,833 --> 00:25:38,533 to bring about order and stability. 510 00:25:38,533 --> 00:25:42,300   He does see it as an analogy for the world of the Cold War 511 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,933 and of nuclear weapons, in which states have to balance 512 00:25:44,933 --> 00:25:46,933 against each other, 513 00:25:46,933 --> 00:25:49,600 undergirded by a fear of what war is like. 514 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,500 ♪ ♪ 515 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:55,433 FERGUSON: The central problem of the Cold War 516 00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:58,266 was like a kind of chess game. 517 00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:00,700 There were two superpowers: the United States 518 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:02,733 and the Soviet Union. 519 00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:05,166 All the rest of the world was a chessboard. 520 00:26:05,166 --> 00:26:08,100 All the other pieces could be moved about that chessboard. 521 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,700 Diplomacy showed a way in which at least 522 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:14,100 temporary peace could be achieved. 523 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,400 ALVANDI: It was not just accepting the world as it is, 524 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,766 but understanding the realities of power 525 00:26:22,766 --> 00:26:24,466 and manipulating power 526 00:26:24,466 --> 00:26:27,133 in order to achieve the ultimate goal, 527 00:26:27,133 --> 00:26:29,000 which was peace and stability. 528 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,833 REILLY: It's about building the right balance of power 529 00:26:32,833 --> 00:26:36,500 so that war is impossible. 530 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,200 It's, victory is impossible, 531 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,333 because then only through that 532 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,800 would you prevent another war. 533 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,500 (plane engine roaring) 534 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:48,300 (guns firing) 535 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:50,500 FILM NARRATOR: Machine guns chatter a song of death 536 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:51,900 and rockets hiss down 537 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,666 with terrifying accuracy onto the Reds below. 538 00:26:53,666 --> 00:26:56,600 SCHWARTZ: Shortly after Kissinger's graduation, 539 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,933 the Korean War breaks out. 540 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:00,866 And the Korean War is really 541 00:27:00,866 --> 00:27:02,766 the Pearl Harbor of the Cold War. 542 00:27:02,766 --> 00:27:04,600 ♪ ♪ 543 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,966 FERGUSON: It was the moment 544 00:27:05,966 --> 00:27:11,033 when Americans could no longer ignore Stalin's ambitions 545 00:27:11,033 --> 00:27:13,833 to expand communism beyond the Soviet Union. 546 00:27:13,833 --> 00:27:17,200 (cannons firing) 547 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,600 FILM NARRATOR: The democratic peoples must fight 548 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,900 and continue to fight 549 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,933 until the grim red shadow that surrounds the world 550 00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,566 is dispelled. 551 00:27:26,566 --> 00:27:28,333 SURI: We have a rising Cold War 552 00:27:28,333 --> 00:27:31,766 that now has become a hot war. 553 00:27:31,766 --> 00:27:33,366 And I think what the Korean War does is, 554 00:27:33,366 --> 00:27:36,466 it creates, for the next 50 years in the United States, 555 00:27:36,466 --> 00:27:39,433 an axiom that if you ever give the Communists 556 00:27:39,433 --> 00:27:40,500 a little bit of space, 557 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:42,866 they will seize it and seize more. 558 00:27:42,866 --> 00:27:44,800 (firing) 559 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,733 (explosions pound) 560 00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:51,133 And so the United States has to be ever ready, 561 00:27:51,133 --> 00:27:53,366 has to be prepared for apocalypse 562 00:27:53,366 --> 00:27:54,633 at any moment. 563 00:27:54,633 --> 00:27:56,566   FILM NARRATOR: Today, every state, 564 00:27:56,566 --> 00:27:59,100 every city and town, 565 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,766 is within striking range of a determined enemy. 566 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:04,933 FAREED ZAKARIA: It's difficult for us today to understand 567 00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:07,033 how scared people were in the '50s and early '60s 568 00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:09,900 about the prospects of nuclear war. 569 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:11,366 (explosion rumbling) 570 00:28:11,366 --> 00:28:12,566 (explosion bangs) 571 00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:15,000 Remember, these were the most powerful weapons 572 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,933 ever designed in the world. 573 00:28:16,933 --> 00:28:19,700 (explosions roaring) 574 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:22,800 And every military technology, every weapon 575 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,033 that had ever been produced in human history 576 00:28:27,033 --> 00:28:28,400 had been used. 577 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200 And nuclear weapons had been used, twice. 578 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:36,800 (air raid siren blares) 579 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,066 FILM NARRATOR: Even the pigeons take part, 580 00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:42,700 as New York holds its biggest civil defense drill. 581 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:47,033 ZAKARIA: The U.S. strategy, which was called massive retaliation, 582 00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:49,766 was that, if the Soviets use a single nuclear weapon 583 00:28:49,766 --> 00:28:52,233 against an American interest, 584 00:28:52,233 --> 00:28:54,200 the United States will hurl 585 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,233 hundreds of nuclear missiles all the way to Moscow. 586 00:28:59,066 --> 00:29:00,666 FILM NARRATOR: Times Square waits. 587 00:29:00,666 --> 00:29:03,933 Millions wonder: suppose it were real. 588 00:29:03,933 --> 00:29:07,466 ZAKARIA: But if the Soviet Union did something 589 00:29:07,466 --> 00:29:09,633 in a second-tier European country, 590 00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:13,966 would we really sacrifice New York and Washington 591 00:29:13,966 --> 00:29:15,733 by retaliating against them? 592 00:29:15,733 --> 00:29:20,033 Kissinger's thought was no, and everybody knows it. 593 00:29:20,033 --> 00:29:21,866 FERGUSON: Kissinger understood 594 00:29:21,866 --> 00:29:25,433 that there was something absurd about a strategy 595 00:29:25,433 --> 00:29:29,400 which gave you a choice between capitulation or Armageddon. 596 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,766 And it was also true that there must be 597 00:29:31,766 --> 00:29:34,533 some limited use for nuclear weapons. 598 00:29:34,533 --> 00:29:37,200 KISSINGER: What is the role of nuclear weapons? 599 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,233 What is the significance of conventional forces? 600 00:29:40,233 --> 00:29:42,600 FERGUSON: He talked to the experts, 601 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,166 picked their brains, and then wrote his own book, 602 00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:49,400 and that book became "Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy." 603 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,866 It was the book that made him famous. 604 00:29:52,866 --> 00:29:54,233 (applauding) 605 00:29:54,233 --> 00:29:56,066 MAN: Henry Kissinger... MAN: Henry Kissinger... 606 00:29:56,066 --> 00:29:58,433 MAN: Henry Kissinger is the author of the bestseller 607 00:29:58,433 --> 00:30:01,100 "Nuclear Weapons and Foreign Policy." 608 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,066 REILLY: Kissinger is offering the possibly radical argument 609 00:30:04,066 --> 00:30:06,533 that the United States 610 00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:08,333 should be willing to use nuclear weapons 611 00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:10,066 in smaller wars. 612 00:30:10,066 --> 00:30:12,900 You think American strategy should be reevaluated 613 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:17,600 to restore war as a usable instrument of policy? 614 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600 American strategy has to face the fact 615 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800 that it may be confronted with war, 616 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,666 and that if Soviet aggression confronts us with war 617 00:30:25,666 --> 00:30:27,200 and we are unwilling to resist, 618 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,100 it will mean the end of our freedom. 619 00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:32,400 REILLY: It suddenly makes him a hugely important public intellectual. 620 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,833 He gets invited on television. 621 00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:35,900 He can write op-eds in "The New York Times." 622 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:40,233 He is now recognized as an important person 623 00:30:40,233 --> 00:30:42,500 in the conversations about the Cold War. 624 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:43,966 MAN: Dr. Kissinger, 625 00:30:43,966 --> 00:30:45,200 do you believe it's true 626 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,866 that we have no coherent strategy? 627 00:30:46,866 --> 00:30:51,233 I have no doubt that our military services 628 00:30:51,233 --> 00:30:54,100 have a plan for every conceivable contingency. 629 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,366 But I have the uneasy feeling that these plans 630 00:30:57,366 --> 00:31:00,166 are not the same in each service. 631 00:31:00,166 --> 00:31:02,433 (others laughing) 632 00:31:02,433 --> 00:31:04,233 (applauding) 633 00:31:04,233 --> 00:31:06,333 ALVANDI: He's a very ambitious person, 634 00:31:06,333 --> 00:31:08,600 but he's also ambitious for his ideas. 635 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,700 He wants to have an impact on history. 636 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:15,433 And he realizes that in order to do that, 637 00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:19,466 he must cultivate relationships with power. 638 00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:24,733 So he begins to use 639 00:31:24,733 --> 00:31:27,466 the sort of cachet and prestige of Harvard 640 00:31:27,466 --> 00:31:31,366 to build relationships for himself beyond university. 641 00:31:31,366 --> 00:31:34,833 FERGUSON: Now, if you are a policy intellectual, 642 00:31:34,833 --> 00:31:36,466 you're pretty stupid 643 00:31:36,466 --> 00:31:38,700 if you don't get expert 644 00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,033 about what's gonna become 645 00:31:40,033 --> 00:31:42,633 the dominant, divisive foreign policy issue 646 00:31:42,633 --> 00:31:44,333 of the later 1960s. 647 00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:46,066 And that is 648 00:31:46,066 --> 00:31:48,166 the war in Vietnam. 649 00:31:50,466 --> 00:31:55,200 ♪ ♪ 650 00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:59,566 LYNDON JOHNSON: We do not want an expanding struggle 651 00:31:59,566 --> 00:32:02,366 with consequences that no one can perceive. 652 00:32:02,366 --> 00:32:05,833 Nor will we bluster, or bully, 653 00:32:05,833 --> 00:32:08,766 or flaunt our power. 654 00:32:08,766 --> 00:32:11,366 But we will not surrender. 655 00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:14,900 And we will not retreat. 656 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,066 (fires) 657 00:32:16,066 --> 00:32:18,466 FERGUSON: The United States had been 658 00:32:18,466 --> 00:32:21,833 getting steadily more involved in Vietnam 659 00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:23,833 during the Kennedy administration, 660 00:32:23,833 --> 00:32:25,366 but it was under Lyndon Johnson, 661 00:32:25,366 --> 00:32:27,266 after Kennedy's assassination, 662 00:32:27,266 --> 00:32:29,200 that U.S. involvement escalated, 663 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,733 and large numbers of U.S. troops began to be committed. 664 00:32:34,733 --> 00:32:38,066 JOHNSON: Retreat does not bring safety 665 00:32:38,066 --> 00:32:42,333 and weakness does not bring peace. 666 00:32:42,333 --> 00:32:46,166 FERGUSON: The escalation really dates from '65, 667 00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:49,333 and that's the year that Kissinger first visits Vietnam. 668 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:52,033 Why did he go? 669 00:32:52,033 --> 00:32:55,566 Well, I think Kissinger was genuinely interested 670 00:32:55,566 --> 00:32:59,100 in the problem that was evolving in Vietnam. 671 00:33:00,533 --> 00:33:02,300 JOHN NEGROPONTE: I first heard of him 672 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,566 when we were all called 673 00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:08,333 into the political counselor's office in the embassy in Saigon, 674 00:33:08,333 --> 00:33:11,166 and he told us Dr. Kissinger was coming soon, 675 00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:13,000 and I was asked to take him 676 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,700 up to the northern part of the country. 677 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:21,333 And so we took him to some remote places in Vietnam. 678 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:22,900 I wouldn't say he was exactly fearless. 679 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,833 I can tell you one phobia he absolutely had, 680 00:33:25,833 --> 00:33:27,233 and that was flying. 681 00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:31,066 (chuckling): I remember, one time, walks up to the pilot, 682 00:33:31,066 --> 00:33:34,366 and he says, "Good morning, pilots," he says... 683 00:33:34,366 --> 00:33:37,233 (imitating): "Can this plane really get over those mountains?" 684 00:33:37,233 --> 00:33:39,566 (laughs) 685 00:33:39,566 --> 00:33:42,533 (plane rattling, wind blowing) 686 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:44,633 Henry was holding on to the curtains of that airplane 687 00:33:44,633 --> 00:33:46,366 for dear life. 688 00:33:46,366 --> 00:33:47,633 (chuckles) 689 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:51,766 The reports that he wrote 690 00:33:51,766 --> 00:33:56,200 from that and later trips to Vietnam in the mid-'60s 691 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,233 are extraordinary, 692 00:33:58,233 --> 00:34:01,233 because he understood very quickly 693 00:34:01,233 --> 00:34:06,133 why the United States' effort to prop up South Vietnam 694 00:34:06,133 --> 00:34:07,466 was failing. 695 00:34:07,466 --> 00:34:09,800 SCHWARTZ: He recognizes that the United States 696 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,366 is likely not able to prevail in the amount of time 697 00:34:13,366 --> 00:34:17,133 that public opinion would be supportive of the war effort. 698 00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:19,300 And he, from a very early point, 699 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:20,800 believes that the United States 700 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,066 has to find some type of negotiated solution. 701 00:34:24,066 --> 00:34:26,000 KISSINGER: I concluded then that there was no way 702 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,800 of winning the war in the manner in which it was being conducted. 703 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,166 So I felt from that moment on 704 00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:35,633 that we had to find a negotiated way out. 705 00:34:35,633 --> 00:34:39,433 But I also felt that, having committed that many forces, 706 00:34:39,433 --> 00:34:42,566 we couldn't simply walk away. 707 00:34:44,266 --> 00:34:46,600 MAN: Professor Henry A. Kissinger of Harvard. 708 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,066 He's been an adviser to the United States government 709 00:34:49,066 --> 00:34:50,666 under four presidents 710 00:34:50,666 --> 00:34:53,466 and has recently returned from Vietnam. 711 00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:55,333 Professor Kissinger, 712 00:34:55,333 --> 00:35:01,100 I find American intervention in Vietnam as immoral 713 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,733 as Nazi and Italian intervention in Spain before last war. 714 00:35:04,733 --> 00:35:06,433 Why don't you? 715 00:35:06,433 --> 00:35:08,666 (audience laughing and clapping) 716 00:35:08,666 --> 00:35:10,133 KISSINGER: I don't find 717 00:35:10,133 --> 00:35:13,533 the intervention in Vietnam immoral, 718 00:35:13,533 --> 00:35:15,666 because our purpose is 719 00:35:15,666 --> 00:35:19,466 to give the people of South Vietnam a free choice. 720 00:35:19,466 --> 00:35:23,433 The Nazi intervention was to deprive the people 721 00:35:23,433 --> 00:35:25,300 of a free choice. 722 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,966 And I would have thought that people in Britain 723 00:35:27,966 --> 00:35:30,000 should know the difference 724 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,233 between American motivations and fascist motivations. 725 00:35:33,233 --> 00:35:36,200 (audience cheers and applauds) 726 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,833 JOHNSON: I bring with me the love of your families 727 00:35:41,833 --> 00:35:44,800 and the affection of your friends. 728 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,566 I bring with me also the gratitude of the nation 729 00:35:48,566 --> 00:35:49,733 that you serve so honorably 730 00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:53,933 and so loyally and so well. 731 00:35:55,466 --> 00:35:58,200 FERGUSON: By 1968, 732 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,533 what Kissinger had spotted in 1965 733 00:36:01,533 --> 00:36:05,200 was becoming obvious even to President Lyndon Johnson. 734 00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:09,366 The war in Vietnam 735 00:36:09,366 --> 00:36:12,966 was proving extremely hard to win. 736 00:36:12,966 --> 00:36:15,600 REPORTER: Americans risk, and sometimes give, 737 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,033 all that they have half a world away from home. 738 00:36:18,033 --> 00:36:20,233 FERGUSON: In order to try to figure out 739 00:36:20,233 --> 00:36:23,900 a graceful exit from Southeast Asia, 740 00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:25,733 a negotiation had to happen. 741 00:36:26,933 --> 00:36:29,933 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 742 00:36:29,933 --> 00:36:33,100 Tonight, I want to speak to you 743 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:36,933 of peace in Vietnam and Southeast Asia. 744 00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:38,366 Then, in 1968... 745 00:36:38,366 --> 00:36:41,866 I shall not seek, 746 00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,733 and I will not accept, 747 00:36:44,733 --> 00:36:47,266 the nomination of my party for another term 748 00:36:47,266 --> 00:36:48,800 as your president. 749 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,200 ELIZABETH BECKER: ...President Johnson 750 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,033 declared he would not run for reelection. 751 00:36:53,033 --> 00:36:56,133 He was gonna devote himself to finding a solution, 752 00:36:56,133 --> 00:36:57,466 and he was coming close. 753 00:36:57,466 --> 00:36:59,100 REPORTER: The diplomatic deadlock 754 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:00,600 over a site for the peace talks 755 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,866 was finally broken. 756 00:37:01,866 --> 00:37:03,833 The North Vietnamese had revealed 757 00:37:03,833 --> 00:37:05,000 a willingness to talk, 758 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,800 but only on their terms. 759 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,933 REPORTER: In Paris, politics and diplomacy 760 00:37:10,933 --> 00:37:12,533 eventually assembled all parties 761 00:37:12,533 --> 00:37:14,933 to try to find peace in Vietnam. 762 00:37:14,933 --> 00:37:16,466 ROBERT BRIGHAM: The Johnson administration 763 00:37:16,466 --> 00:37:19,300 opened secret negotiations in Paris. 764 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,300 The American public wanted to win, 765 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:23,500 but they wanted to get out. 766 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:25,166 And the clock is ticking. 767 00:37:25,166 --> 00:37:28,200 ♪ ♪ 768 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,666 JOHN FARRELL: Kissinger saw that there was a chance to claim power, 769 00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:34,733 and he went to Paris in September, 770 00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:37,433 and he heard over there 771 00:37:37,433 --> 00:37:40,900 that there may be this bombing halt coming. 772 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,533 This was the golden moment to say, 773 00:37:43,533 --> 00:37:46,566 "If I don't walk through that door now 774 00:37:46,566 --> 00:37:48,533 "and Nixon gets elected, 775 00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:51,033 "it's going to be four years, or eight years, 776 00:37:51,033 --> 00:37:52,733 "and I'm gonna be a Harvard professor again. 777 00:37:52,733 --> 00:37:54,300 "No matter how smart I am, 778 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,266 this is my shot." 779 00:37:56,266 --> 00:37:58,300 And this was despite the fact 780 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:00,166 that Kissinger and Nixon did not know each other, 781 00:38:00,166 --> 00:38:02,933 and Kissinger had said throughout that summer 782 00:38:02,933 --> 00:38:05,800 that Nixon would be a disaster if he got elected president. 783 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,433 FERGUSON: Henry Kissinger had steered clear of Richard Nixon 784 00:38:09,433 --> 00:38:12,566 throughout his career as a policy intellectual, 785 00:38:12,566 --> 00:38:15,433 declining invitations to meet with Nixon 786 00:38:15,433 --> 00:38:16,800 because he really had 787 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,166 a pretty low opinion of Nixon. 788 00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:20,433 (phone calling out) 789 00:38:20,433 --> 00:38:22,933 GRANDIN: But Kissinger quickly made contact 790 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:24,533 with, with the Nixon campaign. 791 00:38:24,533 --> 00:38:25,533 (call answered) And he passed on 792 00:38:25,533 --> 00:38:26,933 the status of the talks 793 00:38:26,933 --> 00:38:28,666 through his contact Richard Allen. 794 00:38:30,233 --> 00:38:31,233 ALLEN: Henry Kissinger 795 00:38:31,233 --> 00:38:32,700 volunteered information to us 796 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:33,933 through a, a spy he had, 797 00:38:33,933 --> 00:38:35,700 former student, 798 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,366 that he had in the Paris peace talks. 799 00:38:38,366 --> 00:38:41,633 He called me from pay phones and we spoke in German. 800 00:38:41,633 --> 00:38:45,166 And he offloaded mostly every night 801 00:38:45,166 --> 00:38:47,000 what had happened that day in Paris. 802 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200 FARRELL: So he sends two different messages to Nixon 803 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,833 on two different days in September, 804 00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:54,533 saying, "There's this bombing halt coming. 805 00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:56,200 "I just want you to know. 806 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,666 Think about what your position is going to be." 807 00:38:57,666 --> 00:39:01,733 GRANDIN: Kissinger told the Nixon campaign, you know, 808 00:39:01,733 --> 00:39:03,600 "They're getting closer to a deal." 809 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,666 And Nixon's people told the South Vietnamese government 810 00:39:05,666 --> 00:39:07,833 that it would get better terms 811 00:39:07,833 --> 00:39:09,766 if Nixon was in the White House. 812 00:39:09,766 --> 00:39:11,366 This was the moment 813 00:39:11,366 --> 00:39:15,766 in which that distance between self-interest 814 00:39:15,766 --> 00:39:18,033 and national interest, at least in his mind, 815 00:39:18,033 --> 00:39:20,533 collapsed into each other. 816 00:39:20,533 --> 00:39:22,333 From that point forward, 817 00:39:22,333 --> 00:39:25,633 there was no daylight between the interests of Henry Kissinger 818 00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:27,833 and the interests of the United States, 819 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,666 at least in Henry Kissinger's mind. 820 00:39:30,666 --> 00:39:34,700 (crowd cheering and applauding) 821 00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:41,766 NIXON: Having lost a close one eight years ago, 822 00:39:41,766 --> 00:39:43,466 and having won a close one this year, 823 00:39:43,466 --> 00:39:44,933 I can say this: 824 00:39:44,933 --> 00:39:46,733 winning's a lot more fun. 825 00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:48,700 (laughing, audience cheers and applauds) 826 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,133 FARRELL: After the election, 827 00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,133 Nixon invites Kissinger 828 00:39:52,133 --> 00:39:54,900 to come to the Pierre hotel in New York City. 829 00:39:57,233 --> 00:40:00,100 FERGUSON: The Henry Kissinger who goes to the Pierre hotel 830 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,633 after Richard Nixon's election victory 831 00:40:03,633 --> 00:40:05,200 is a player, but a bit player. 832 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,100 MORRIS: Nixon had a general disdain for academics, 833 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,933 but he wanted and needed a kind of authority 834 00:40:11,933 --> 00:40:15,066 that Henry gave him in academic terms. 835 00:40:16,066 --> 00:40:19,066 FERGUSON: Kissinger had met Nixon just once before, 836 00:40:19,066 --> 00:40:22,566 and they have one of those awkward conversations 837 00:40:22,566 --> 00:40:25,366 which were Richard Nixon's signature dish. 838 00:40:25,366 --> 00:40:28,433 And that's why Nixon's decision 839 00:40:28,433 --> 00:40:31,800 to offer Kissinger the job of national security adviser 840 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,033 came as such a surprise to Kissinger 841 00:40:34,033 --> 00:40:36,966 that he didn't realize Nixon had offered him the job. 842 00:40:36,966 --> 00:40:39,500 FARRELL: Nixon is just so awkward with people 843 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,533 that he had neglected to actually make the offer. 844 00:40:42,533 --> 00:40:44,700 (phone ringing) 845 00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:47,166 So Kissinger comes away from the meeting with Nixon 846 00:40:47,166 --> 00:40:49,300 and he gets a phone call from John Mitchell, 847 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,133 who is the campaign manager. 848 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,166 (phone ringing) 849 00:40:53,166 --> 00:40:55,200 And Mitchell says... 850 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,066 (over phone): "So, um, how do you like the new job?" 851 00:40:58,066 --> 00:41:00,333 (in interview): And Kissinger says... 852 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,033 (over phone): "Well, what job? No job was actually offered." 853 00:41:03,033 --> 00:41:04,700 (in interview): And Mitchell goes... 854 00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:07,400 (over phone): "Oh, for Christ's sake, he messed it up again!" 855 00:41:11,566 --> 00:41:13,233 NEWS ANCHOR: President-elect Nixon made 856 00:41:13,233 --> 00:41:15,433 his first major foreign policy appointment today. 857 00:41:15,433 --> 00:41:17,900 He named Harvard professor Henry Kissinger 858 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:20,833 to be his special assistant for national security affairs. 859 00:41:20,833 --> 00:41:23,633 Dr. Kissinger is a man who is known 860 00:41:23,633 --> 00:41:26,466 to all people who are interested in foreign policy 861 00:41:26,466 --> 00:41:28,933 as perhaps one of the major scholars in America 862 00:41:28,933 --> 00:41:30,833 and the world today in this area. 863 00:41:30,833 --> 00:41:35,566 ALVANDI: The relationship between Nixon and Kissinger is fascinating, 864 00:41:35,566 --> 00:41:37,600 and it becomes a bizarre marriage. 865 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,233 SURI: There's a wariness they have of each other early on, 866 00:41:41,233 --> 00:41:43,566 but I think they each see 867 00:41:43,566 --> 00:41:45,966 quite a bit of themselves in the other. 868 00:41:45,966 --> 00:41:47,900 The president-elect and I 869 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:51,600 have had many extensive conversations 870 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,400 over the past week. 871 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,833 FERGUSON: It quickly became clear to Nixon 872 00:41:56,833 --> 00:41:58,333 that Kissinger was an asset. 873 00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:02,200 First of all, he understood Nixon. 874 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200 KISSINGER: I enthusiastically accept this assignment, 875 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,600 and I shall serve the president-elect 876 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,900 with all my energy and dedication. 877 00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,600 FERGUSON: Kissinger got inside his head super-quickly 878 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,300 and very quickly began to understand how to talk 879 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:20,566 to this lonely, difficult, mistrustful man. 880 00:42:20,566 --> 00:42:23,766 Dr. Kissinger is keenly aware of the necessity 881 00:42:23,766 --> 00:42:27,666 not to set himself up as a wall 882 00:42:27,666 --> 00:42:29,766 between the president and the secretary of state 883 00:42:29,766 --> 00:42:31,266 or the secretary of defense. 884 00:42:31,266 --> 00:42:34,400 ♪ ♪ 885 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,133 ZAKARIA: Nixon wants to bring foreign policy 886 00:42:36,133 --> 00:42:37,600 into the White House. 887 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,533 In this, he finds a perfect partner in Henry Kissinger. 888 00:42:40,533 --> 00:42:43,066 I don't think one could have expected this, 889 00:42:43,066 --> 00:42:45,400 but Kissinger turned out to be 890 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,433 a very savvy bureaucratic player. 891 00:42:47,433 --> 00:42:51,333 He was very good at maneuvering and counter-maneuvering, 892 00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:53,633 and he liked the secrecy, as well. 893 00:42:53,633 --> 00:42:57,066 REPORTER: Kissinger meets alone with the president every day, 894 00:42:57,066 --> 00:42:59,266 sometimes for as long as an hour and a half. 895 00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:00,666 GRANDIN: Nixon and Kissinger 896 00:43:00,666 --> 00:43:03,500 turned the National Security Council 897 00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:06,466 into basically the main hub of foreign policy. 898 00:43:06,466 --> 00:43:11,100 MORRIS: I had joined the NSC under the Johnson administration. 899 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:13,900 It was a very loosely run operation, 900 00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:15,200 very small. 901 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,033 There were only 11 or 12 of us. 902 00:43:17,033 --> 00:43:20,266 That was not true at all under Kissinger. 903 00:43:20,266 --> 00:43:22,000 REPORTER: These are the senior people 904 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,100 from his National Security Council staff 905 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:26,033 of about 40 persons. 906 00:43:26,033 --> 00:43:28,833 MORRIS: Kissinger's NSC staff 907 00:43:28,833 --> 00:43:33,400 was a much more concentrated power structure 908 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,333 than anything that we had seen before. 909 00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:37,833 Kissinger made very clear 910 00:43:37,833 --> 00:43:39,900 that he did not want yes-men. 911 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,366 He wanted candid advice. 912 00:43:41,366 --> 00:43:43,833 Disagreement, if necessary. 913 00:43:43,833 --> 00:43:44,933 Argue your case. 914 00:43:44,933 --> 00:43:46,533 If you lose the battle, 915 00:43:46,533 --> 00:43:49,666 then faithfully carry out the policy. 916 00:43:49,666 --> 00:43:51,600 He enjoyed 917 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,633 thinking and arguing issues through. 918 00:43:53,633 --> 00:43:56,466   Find out whether it's possible on Thursday, 919 00:43:56,466 --> 00:43:58,966 and then we'll make it depend on the other thing. 920 00:43:58,966 --> 00:44:02,233 LAKE: I think he enjoyed having a few of us, 921 00:44:02,233 --> 00:44:04,666 maybe not too many, but a few of us 922 00:44:04,666 --> 00:44:06,666 who did not agree 923 00:44:06,666 --> 00:44:09,000 with him or the president politically. 924 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,433 And I suspect he liked it because he won every argument. 925 00:44:13,433 --> 00:44:15,400 (chuckles): In part because he was very smart, 926 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,933 and in part because, 927 00:44:16,933 --> 00:44:19,433 let me see, oh, yes, I worked for him. 928 00:44:19,433 --> 00:44:21,666 REPORTER: Kissinger admits to being a perfectionist, 929 00:44:21,666 --> 00:44:24,066 not an easy man to work for. 930 00:44:24,066 --> 00:44:27,633 HOSKINSON: He was a demanding perfectionist with his staff. 931 00:44:27,633 --> 00:44:30,233 Nothing could ever be right. 932 00:44:30,233 --> 00:44:31,666 There was also the joke 933 00:44:31,666 --> 00:44:32,866 that if Henry didn't yell at you, 934 00:44:32,866 --> 00:44:34,166 he didn't love you. 935 00:44:34,166 --> 00:44:36,000   REPORTER: He speaks of his staff 936 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,100 with pride and a kind of affection. 937 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,833 They call him Henry and regard him, too, with warmth, 938 00:44:40,833 --> 00:44:43,033 salted with a degree of apprehension, 939 00:44:43,033 --> 00:44:44,866 for he has a sharp temper. 940 00:44:44,866 --> 00:44:46,500 MORRIS: We were graded. 941 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:47,966 We were told we had done a B-plus 942 00:44:47,966 --> 00:44:51,366 or maybe an A-minus if we were really lucky, 943 00:44:51,366 --> 00:44:53,533 but always, of course, you had to go back, 944 00:44:53,533 --> 00:44:55,033 because the only real A 945 00:44:55,033 --> 00:44:56,600 was Henry's own rendition. (chuckles) 946 00:44:58,133 --> 00:45:00,966 LORD: Kissinger, he stretched my patience. 947 00:45:00,966 --> 00:45:02,333 He stretched my nerves. 948 00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:04,266 Will this meeting take very long? 949 00:45:04,266 --> 00:45:05,933 (man talking in background) 950 00:45:05,933 --> 00:45:08,433 REPORTER: He is regularly late to meetings. 951 00:45:08,433 --> 00:45:12,100 His staff despairs good-naturedly of that. 952 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,933 I would quit about once a week. 953 00:45:13,933 --> 00:45:16,566 He was a mentor 954 00:45:16,566 --> 00:45:18,033 and a tormentor. 955 00:45:18,033 --> 00:45:19,800 ♪ ♪ 956 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,833 MORRIS: We worked murderous hours. 957 00:45:21,833 --> 00:45:23,766 We were often 7:00 in the morning 958 00:45:23,766 --> 00:45:25,233 till 8:00 or 9:00 at night. 959 00:45:25,233 --> 00:45:28,466 And, uh, it took a toll on families. 960 00:45:28,466 --> 00:45:31,566 It took a toll on our physical stamina. 961 00:45:32,966 --> 00:45:36,466 But Kissinger demanded to be the guiding light, 962 00:45:36,466 --> 00:45:38,000 the North Star, 963 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,400 of the Nixon foreign policy. 964 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,233 And that meant the policy in Vietnam. 965 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,000 ♪ ♪ 966 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,566 (bombs falling) 967 00:45:53,566 --> 00:45:58,400 (explosions pounding) 968 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,400 (firing) 969 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,500 ZAKARIA: Kissinger and Nixon enter the White House 970 00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:08,633 at a time when the United States 971 00:46:08,633 --> 00:46:10,766 is in a very, very difficult place in Vietnam. 972 00:46:10,766 --> 00:46:13,166 (helicopter blades whirring) 973 00:46:13,166 --> 00:46:14,766 LORD: In 1969, 974 00:46:14,766 --> 00:46:17,633 tens of thousands of Americans had already been lost. 975 00:46:17,633 --> 00:46:20,066 We were losing about 200 a day. 976 00:46:20,066 --> 00:46:22,433 (firing) 977 00:46:24,333 --> 00:46:29,833 We were heading toward 535,000 troops in Vietnam. 978 00:46:29,833 --> 00:46:31,433 It was a hellish situation. 979 00:46:31,433 --> 00:46:33,333 (guns firing) 980 00:46:33,333 --> 00:46:34,966 KISSINGER: We inherited a nightmare. 981 00:46:34,966 --> 00:46:37,733 It was shaking our domestic stability. 982 00:46:37,733 --> 00:46:42,400 It was the consuming concern of the intellectual community. 983 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,300 (explosion pounds) 984 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,366 We made up our mind from the beginning 985 00:46:48,366 --> 00:46:51,733 that we were going to try to disengage from Vietnam. 986 00:46:51,733 --> 00:46:54,366 ♪ ♪ 987 00:46:54,366 --> 00:46:56,466 MORRIS: That the war should end 988 00:46:56,466 --> 00:46:58,433 was unquestioned. 989 00:46:58,433 --> 00:47:00,000 The question was, how? 990 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,666 The question was, when? 991 00:47:01,666 --> 00:47:03,800 The question was, under what circumstances? 992 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200 With what honor, or sense of honor? 993 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,566 I want to end this war. 994 00:47:08,566 --> 00:47:10,900 The American people want to end this war. 995 00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,833 The people of South Vietnam want to end this war. 996 00:47:13,833 --> 00:47:18,100 MORRIS: Very soon, the enormous sentiment against the war 997 00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:21,600 that had haunted and driven Lyndon Johnson out of power 998 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,233 was going to be turned on Richard Nixon. 999 00:47:24,233 --> 00:47:25,566 They knew that. 1000 00:47:25,566 --> 00:47:27,833 MAN: What do we want? PROTESTERS: Peace! 1001 00:47:27,833 --> 00:47:30,333 MAN: When do we get it? PROTESTERS: Now! 1002 00:47:30,333 --> 00:47:33,766 KEYS: What the Vietnam War did to many Americans 1003 00:47:33,766 --> 00:47:35,533 was shake their faith 1004 00:47:35,533 --> 00:47:38,400 that their country was decent and honorable. 1005 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,866 Because it seemed like the United States 1006 00:47:40,866 --> 00:47:43,400 was fighting a war in a distant country 1007 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,433 in an extremely brutal way, 1008 00:47:46,433 --> 00:47:48,700 using chemical weapons like napalm, 1009 00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,533 destroying villages, 1010 00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:52,800 massacring civilians. 1011 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,066 MORRIS: And Nixon understood 1012 00:47:54,066 --> 00:47:55,800 you had to change course. 1013 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,466 (reporters talking in background) 1014 00:47:57,466 --> 00:47:59,300 How are you doing, Mr. President, 1015 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,233 in your efforts to end the Vietnam War? 1016 00:48:01,233 --> 00:48:03,666 Once the enemy recognizes 1017 00:48:03,666 --> 00:48:06,200 that it is not going to win its objective 1018 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,733 by waiting us out, 1019 00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:09,433 then the enemy will negotiate, 1020 00:48:09,433 --> 00:48:12,300 and we will end this war before the end of 1970. 1021 00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:14,133 That is the objective we have. 1022 00:48:14,133 --> 00:48:15,966 LAKE: Nixon had to show that there is hope, 1023 00:48:15,966 --> 00:48:17,233 there's light at the end of the tunnel, 1024 00:48:17,233 --> 00:48:19,366 and we're going to get out-- but with honor. 1025 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800 KISSINGER: Ending the Vietnam War had been 1026 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,433 the principal goal of Nixon's first term. 1027 00:48:26,433 --> 00:48:30,266 ♪ ♪ 1028 00:48:30,266 --> 00:48:33,300 Not only in order to bring peace, 1029 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,700 but in order to end our domestic divisions. 1030 00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:38,766 ♪ ♪ 1031 00:48:38,766 --> 00:48:41,233 And I wanted to create the conditions 1032 00:48:41,233 --> 00:48:43,333 which would unify the country again 1033 00:48:43,333 --> 00:48:46,366 by having an honorable end to the war in Vietnam. 1034 00:48:46,366 --> 00:48:48,566 ♪ ♪ 1035 00:48:48,566 --> 00:48:50,700 DAVID KISSINGER: Foremost in my father's mind 1036 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,633 was finding a way to end the Vietnam War 1037 00:48:53,633 --> 00:48:57,133 without a collapse of America's influence in the world, 1038 00:48:57,133 --> 00:48:59,766 without a betrayal 1039 00:48:59,766 --> 00:49:03,266 of millions of people 1040 00:49:03,266 --> 00:49:05,233 who had relied on us, 1041 00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:08,566 whose lives hung in the balance. 1042 00:49:10,433 --> 00:49:12,433 Melvin Laird, secretary of defense, 1043 00:49:12,433 --> 00:49:15,100 arrived in Saigon today for a firsthand look 1044 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:17,366 at the progress of Vietnamization, 1045 00:49:17,366 --> 00:49:19,300 which he said was "irreversible." 1046 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,033 BRIGHAM: The secret plan that Nixon had to end the war-- 1047 00:49:22,033 --> 00:49:25,066 that wasn't so secret or really a plan-- 1048 00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:26,533 was Vietnamization. 1049 00:49:28,066 --> 00:49:30,500 CAROLYN EISENBERG: Vietnamization is the brainchild 1050 00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:33,200 of Melvin Laird, the secretary of defense. 1051 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,033 LAIRD: You cannot guarantee the will and the desire of any country, 1052 00:49:37,033 --> 00:49:40,233 but you can give them the tools to do the job. 1053 00:49:40,233 --> 00:49:41,866 (firing) 1054 00:49:41,866 --> 00:49:43,533 EISENBERG: The basic idea is 1055 00:49:43,533 --> 00:49:45,200 that we should begin a policy 1056 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,833 as quickly as we can... 1057 00:49:46,833 --> 00:49:48,633 (firing) 1058 00:49:48,633 --> 00:49:49,633 ...of pouring money 1059 00:49:49,633 --> 00:49:50,900 and training 1060 00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:53,733 into the military in South Vietnam. 1061 00:49:53,733 --> 00:49:55,066 (fires) 1062 00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:57,500 And that they'll be able to replace American troops. 1063 00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:00,366 REPORTER: 20% of these young men are farmers' sons, 1064 00:50:00,366 --> 00:50:02,866 out of the rice paddies and flying solo 1065 00:50:02,866 --> 00:50:04,266 in a matter of weeks, 1066 00:50:04,266 --> 00:50:05,766 and that's what the 300 South Vietnamese 1067 00:50:05,766 --> 00:50:07,433 are doing here: 1068 00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:10,166 learning to fly choppers for combat. 1069 00:50:10,166 --> 00:50:12,866 LORD: So, over a period of time, we felt 1070 00:50:12,866 --> 00:50:15,733 that we could gradually withdraw American troops, 1071 00:50:15,733 --> 00:50:18,600 which would maintain domestic support at home, 1072 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,666 and buy time for the other prong, 1073 00:50:20,666 --> 00:50:22,200 which was secret negotiations. 1074 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,600 ♪ ♪ 1075 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,000 The fact is that there were some public exchanges in Paris, 1076 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,966 but they were essentially propaganda battles, 1077 00:50:30,966 --> 00:50:33,933 but the real negotiations were secret. 1078 00:50:33,933 --> 00:50:35,633 REPORTER (speaking French): 1079 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,166 I won't discuss any of the subject. 1080 00:50:40,166 --> 00:50:41,733 ♪ ♪ 1081 00:50:41,733 --> 00:50:43,133 LORD: Here's the way it would work. 1082 00:50:43,133 --> 00:50:44,833 We had to make a cover, 1083 00:50:44,833 --> 00:50:46,600 pretending we're still in Washington. 1084 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,400 So I would leave the office and say to my compatriots, 1085 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,200 "I'm going to take the weekend off." 1086 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,066 And then I would join Kissinger. 1087 00:50:54,066 --> 00:50:56,800 We'd fly into the middle of France. 1088 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,100 And we were met by a military attaché 1089 00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:02,266 who would sneak us into a safe house. 1090 00:51:02,266 --> 00:51:05,900 In the safe house, we used code names, 1091 00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:08,466 so that the housekeeper wouldn't know who we were. 1092 00:51:08,466 --> 00:51:11,333 I was Major Larkin, I remember. 1093 00:51:11,333 --> 00:51:13,133 I couldn't even be a lieutenant colonel. 1094 00:51:13,133 --> 00:51:14,866 It was one humiliation after another. 1095 00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:21,233 ♪ ♪ 1096 00:51:21,233 --> 00:51:22,833 If the negotiations were secret, 1097 00:51:22,833 --> 00:51:25,266 then Henry would have 1098 00:51:25,266 --> 00:51:28,133 much more flexibility in how to negotiate with them. 1099 00:51:28,133 --> 00:51:30,200 So, first point was 1100 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600 that they were secret not only from other governments, 1101 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,766 but from the State Department 1102 00:51:33,766 --> 00:51:34,900 and the rest of the American government. 1103 00:51:36,333 --> 00:51:39,566 NEGROPONTE: We cut the State Department out of an awful lot of stuff, 1104 00:51:39,566 --> 00:51:41,400 and it was Henry versus them, 1105 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,300 and he just didn't want them 1106 00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:44,866 to be involved or get any credit. 1107 00:51:46,066 --> 00:51:47,966 SCHWARTZ: Kissinger always feared, 1108 00:51:47,966 --> 00:51:50,100 to a certain extent, that the State Department 1109 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,133 could undermine his control of foreign policy. 1110 00:51:52,133 --> 00:51:55,200 And he made it a point 1111 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,800 of his role as national security adviser 1112 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,133 to try to gather in 1113 00:52:01,133 --> 00:52:04,366 the authority of foreign policy to himself. 1114 00:52:04,366 --> 00:52:06,300 ALVANDI: And this gave Kissinger 1115 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:08,900 just tremendous power, because really, 1116 00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:10,600 he was the only person that was fully in the loop. 1117 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,600 SCHWARTZ: The North Vietnamese 1118 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,200 want the complete withdrawal of American forces. 1119 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,233 In effect, they want a type of American surrender, 1120 00:52:19,233 --> 00:52:20,900 and the North Vietnamese leaders 1121 00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:23,366 were far more unified and determined 1122 00:52:23,366 --> 00:52:26,200 to forcibly reunify their country 1123 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,833 at almost any cost 1124 00:52:27,833 --> 00:52:30,766 than Nixon and Kissinger truly appreciated. 1125 00:52:33,366 --> 00:52:34,966 FERGUSON: Henry Kissinger always had 1126 00:52:34,966 --> 00:52:38,233 considerable and usually quite well-placed faith 1127 00:52:38,233 --> 00:52:41,100 in his ability to negotiate. 1128 00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:44,566 So, his assumption was that if he could get in the room 1129 00:52:44,566 --> 00:52:48,566 with a well-empowered North Vietnamese representative, 1130 00:52:48,566 --> 00:52:52,133 he could find some room for maneuver. 1131 00:52:52,133 --> 00:52:53,466 But they were also 1132 00:52:53,466 --> 00:52:55,766 the hardest negotiations Kissinger ever experienced. 1133 00:52:56,766 --> 00:53:00,966 KISSINGER: It was our misfortune that Le Duc Tho's assignment 1134 00:53:00,966 --> 00:53:04,266 was to break the spirit of the American people for the war, 1135 00:53:04,266 --> 00:53:06,933 and that he was engaged in a campaign 1136 00:53:06,933 --> 00:53:08,566 of psychological warfare, 1137 00:53:08,566 --> 00:53:10,166 so what he attempted to do to us 1138 00:53:10,166 --> 00:53:11,900 was extremely painful. 1139 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:17,100 ALVANDI: The North Vietnamese negotiators drive Kissinger insane, 1140 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:21,133 because he tries to come up with every conceivable formula 1141 00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:23,466 and variation of language 1142 00:53:23,466 --> 00:53:27,300 that would be enough to achieve some kind of deal, 1143 00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:28,800 but they just simply refuse. 1144 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,333 (talking softly) 1145 00:53:31,333 --> 00:53:33,166 LAKE: We would sit across the table, 1146 00:53:33,166 --> 00:53:35,300 and it would be Henry and an interpreter and me, 1147 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:37,700 and I would look at them very carefully. 1148 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:40,700 And they were not in the slightest cowed, 1149 00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:42,766 as far as I could tell. 1150 00:53:42,766 --> 00:53:45,033 But after all, they had defeated the French, 1151 00:53:45,033 --> 00:53:47,166 they'd been holding off the Chinese for 2,000 years, 1152 00:53:47,166 --> 00:53:49,533 and it was hard to convince them. 1153 00:53:49,533 --> 00:53:52,266 FERGUSON: The problem was that his negotiating position 1154 00:53:52,266 --> 00:53:54,133 was weakened by the fact 1155 00:53:54,133 --> 00:53:56,266 that the U.S. began withdrawing troops 1156 00:53:56,266 --> 00:53:59,666 even before he began negotiating. 1157 00:53:59,666 --> 00:54:01,800 ♪ ♪ 1158 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,800 LAKE: We were going to San Clemente, 1159 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,433 the White House in California, 1160 00:54:05,433 --> 00:54:08,300 and I wrote a memo to Kissinger 1161 00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:10,933 saying, the problem here is 1162 00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:13,733 that if we are Vietnamizing, 1163 00:54:13,733 --> 00:54:16,466 then the first tranche of troops that come home 1164 00:54:16,466 --> 00:54:18,166 are like salted peanuts, 1165 00:54:18,166 --> 00:54:20,966 and the taste for further withdrawal of American forces 1166 00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:22,100 is going to become overwhelming. 1167 00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,000 The North Vietnamese are not idiots, 1168 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,233 and they know that if they simply wait us out, 1169 00:54:28,233 --> 00:54:31,133 then we're going to be withdrawing, while they're not. 1170 00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:33,300 So, we've got a problem, and therefore, 1171 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:35,366 we need to cut the best deal we can now. 1172 00:54:35,366 --> 00:54:39,733 Well, Henry took the conclusion off my memo, 1173 00:54:39,733 --> 00:54:42,333 made it his own memo to Nixon, 1174 00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:45,300 and then said that we have to threaten them all the more 1175 00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:46,900 with measures of great force 1176 00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:49,366 in order to make up for the weakness of our position 1177 00:54:49,366 --> 00:54:50,466 on mutual withdrawal. 1178 00:54:55,900 --> 00:54:58,300 INTERVIEWER: How would you characterize 1179 00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:02,133 Nixon administration's policy towards Cambodia? 1180 00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:04,033 Well, the, you know, there's been the charges 1181 00:55:04,033 --> 00:55:06,300 that have been made that... 1182 00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:09,400 ♪ ♪ 1183 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,400 BECKER: What's important to know about Cambodia 1184 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,233 was that it was in the middle of the war. 1185 00:55:14,233 --> 00:55:17,266 To the west was Thailand, which was the equivalent 1186 00:55:17,266 --> 00:55:20,266 of the air base for the American war. 1187 00:55:20,266 --> 00:55:21,966 To the north is Laos, 1188 00:55:21,966 --> 00:55:24,633 and to the east, of course, is Vietnam. 1189 00:55:24,633 --> 00:55:27,133 It's right in the middle, and it's neutral, 1190 00:55:27,133 --> 00:55:30,166 run by a very charismatic leader 1191 00:55:30,166 --> 00:55:31,566 named Prince Norodom Sihanouk. 1192 00:55:31,566 --> 00:55:33,366 (crowd cheering) 1193 00:55:33,366 --> 00:55:38,400 SIHANOUK (speaking French): 1194 00:55:44,766 --> 00:55:48,400   SURI: Kissinger believes that Cambodia is a real problem 1195 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,033 for the United States in Vietnam, 1196 00:55:50,033 --> 00:55:52,333 because even though the Cambodian leader and others 1197 00:55:52,333 --> 00:55:53,833 are trying to play neutral, 1198 00:55:53,833 --> 00:55:56,133 the North Vietnamese are sending supplies 1199 00:55:56,133 --> 00:55:57,866 through Cambodia-- that's just a fact. 1200 00:55:57,866 --> 00:56:00,200 ♪ ♪ 1201 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,233 REPORTER: U.S. bombing raids in North Vietnam 1202 00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:04,100 forced the creation of a primitive method 1203 00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,100 for keeping supply lines open. 1204 00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:08,466 GRANDIN: Nixon and Kissinger 1205 00:56:08,466 --> 00:56:09,566 came up with the idea, 1206 00:56:09,566 --> 00:56:11,466 "Well, we'll start bombing Cambodia." 1207 00:56:11,466 --> 00:56:12,700 (cannon fires) 1208 00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:14,266 FERGUSON: Kissinger thought 1209 00:56:14,266 --> 00:56:19,400 if the North Vietnamese supply lines could be broken, 1210 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,000 if the flow of men and materiel 1211 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,400 could be disrupted, 1212 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,033 then the North Vietnamese would be greatly weakened. 1213 00:56:29,033 --> 00:56:30,733 (guns firing, explosion pounds) 1214 00:56:30,733 --> 00:56:33,966 LORD: The North Vietnamese were the ones who spread the war. 1215 00:56:33,966 --> 00:56:35,666 They were sitting in Cambodia, 1216 00:56:35,666 --> 00:56:38,033 along the border, for two years, 1217 00:56:38,033 --> 00:56:40,233 coming across the border, 1218 00:56:40,233 --> 00:56:42,733 killing Americans and South Vietnamese, 1219 00:56:42,733 --> 00:56:44,166 and returning to safe havens. 1220 00:56:44,166 --> 00:56:47,533 (explosions pound) 1221 00:56:47,533 --> 00:56:52,233 And so the bombing was to not let them have safe havens. 1222 00:56:52,233 --> 00:56:55,533 So we are not talking about an attack on a neutral country. 1223 00:56:55,533 --> 00:56:59,033 We are talking about the attack 1224 00:56:59,033 --> 00:57:02,733 on territory occupied by an enemy force 1225 00:57:02,733 --> 00:57:06,466 that is killing Americans from that territory. 1226 00:57:06,466 --> 00:57:07,766 (device beeps) 1227 00:57:07,766 --> 00:57:09,166 GRANDIN: But the real reason for the bombing 1228 00:57:09,166 --> 00:57:12,166 was to put into place what Nixon and Kissinger 1229 00:57:12,166 --> 00:57:13,800 had come to call the Madman Theory. 1230 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,633 This was the idea that Nixon was so crazy, 1231 00:57:18,633 --> 00:57:21,500 so unhinged, that he might do anything. 1232 00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:24,166 And it was supposed to project to North Vietnam 1233 00:57:24,166 --> 00:57:25,600 a sense of fear, 1234 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,300 and sort of, and force them back to the bargaining table. 1235 00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:33,300 ♪ ♪ 1236 00:57:35,266 --> 00:57:39,300 So, Operation Menu is launched, in which sorties 1237 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:42,000   secretly bomb the problematic area 1238 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,033 where the Ho Chi Minh Trail is located. 1239 00:57:44,033 --> 00:57:47,633 MORRIS: Technically, there was no sanction for this 1240 00:57:47,633 --> 00:57:49,733 in the U.S. Congress of any kind. 1241 00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:51,766 And you're, you're coming at a time 1242 00:57:51,766 --> 00:57:55,200 when there's enormous pressure to wind down the war, 1243 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,666 enormous pressure to limit the war, 1244 00:57:58,666 --> 00:58:00,166 not to extend it, 1245 00:58:00,166 --> 00:58:01,900 not to expand it in any way. 1246 00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:03,766 ♪ ♪ 1247 00:58:03,766 --> 00:58:07,133 EISENBERG: It was very clear to everybody, 1248 00:58:07,133 --> 00:58:09,233 including Kissinger himself, 1249 00:58:09,233 --> 00:58:12,300 that if the American public learned 1250 00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:14,300 that they were bombing Cambodia, 1251 00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:16,500 that there was going to be an explosion 1252 00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:17,833 in the United States. 1253 00:58:17,833 --> 00:58:20,900 HEDRICK SMITH: And so that's why they went secret. 1254 00:58:22,633 --> 00:58:24,133 Because they knew damn well 1255 00:58:24,133 --> 00:58:25,700 they couldn't get it any other way. 1256 00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:27,933 ♪ ♪ 1257 00:58:27,933 --> 00:58:30,233 GRANDIN: Kissinger was intimately involved 1258 00:58:30,233 --> 00:58:32,400 in choosing the bombing sites. 1259 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,400 He came up with basically a dual bookkeeping system 1260 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,800 in which bombs that were supposed to be 1261 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,566 dropped along the border within South Vietnam 1262 00:58:41,566 --> 00:58:44,233 were actually dropped in Cambodia. 1263 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,900 There's descriptions of him in an office 1264 00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:50,300 in the, in the basement of the White House 1265 00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:52,833 with his maps, picking out the bombing sites 1266 00:58:52,833 --> 00:58:56,066 and working in this very clandestine manner. 1267 00:58:56,066 --> 00:58:58,433 (explosions pounding) 1268 00:58:58,433 --> 00:59:00,666 ♪ ♪ 1269 00:59:00,666 --> 00:59:02,066 This had the effect 1270 00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:04,733 of really kind of pushing the White House 1271 00:59:04,733 --> 00:59:07,033 deep into paranoia, 1272 00:59:07,033 --> 00:59:08,500 into a sense that, 1273 00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:10,100 that there were enemies all around. 1274 00:59:11,266 --> 00:59:14,100 RAY SITTON: We were told that this is so sensitive, 1275 00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,000 that it must be done 1276 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,866 with the absolute minimum number of people 1277 00:59:18,866 --> 00:59:20,533 being exposed to it. 1278 00:59:20,533 --> 00:59:21,666 At one point, 1279 00:59:21,666 --> 00:59:23,600 Dr. Kissinger even suggested that, 1280 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,566 why don't we do it using Skyspot radar? 1281 00:59:26,566 --> 00:59:29,566 Even the crews won't know where they're dropping. 1282 00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:32,533 BRIGHAM: Mel Laird, Nixon's secretary of defense, 1283 00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:35,633 was opposed to the secret bombing of Cambodia. 1284 00:59:35,633 --> 00:59:37,533   LAIRD: The manner in which 1285 00:59:37,533 --> 00:59:39,200 they wanted to carry out that bombing 1286 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,666 I thought would lead to trouble. 1287 00:59:41,666 --> 00:59:43,300 BRIGHAM: He thought there was no way 1288 00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:45,266 that Congress wouldn't eventually find out. 1289 00:59:45,266 --> 00:59:48,000 And I told the National Security Council, 1290 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,200 the president, 1291 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,600 the presidential adviser for national security, 1292 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,633 and the secretary of state 1293 00:59:53,633 --> 00:59:56,300 that their proposal to keep it secret 1294 00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:58,033 just would not work. 1295 00:59:58,033 --> 01:00:00,366 SURI: It was monumentally stupid to think that they could 1296 01:00:00,366 --> 01:00:02,433 actually get away with doing this in secret. 1297 01:00:02,433 --> 01:00:04,366 At some point, someone, 1298 01:00:04,366 --> 01:00:06,100 some low-level Air Force official, 1299 01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,233 would hand the books to a reporter. 1300 01:00:08,233 --> 01:00:09,700 Which is what happened. 1301 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,133 EISENBERG: There's an article 1302 01:00:12,133 --> 01:00:13,900 that appears in "The New York Times" 1303 01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:15,866 by William Beecher. 1304 01:00:15,866 --> 01:00:18,133 If you blinked, you might have missed it, 1305 01:00:18,133 --> 01:00:20,500 but Kissinger and Nixon don't miss it. 1306 01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:24,500 And that really sets Nixon and Kissinger off, 1307 01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:26,966 enraged, like, "How did he get that news? 1308 01:00:26,966 --> 01:00:28,466 Who told him?" 1309 01:00:28,466 --> 01:00:30,500 And so that's the point at which they make 1310 01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:31,933 a very fateful decision 1311 01:00:31,933 --> 01:00:34,933 to start wiretapping people in the government, 1312 01:00:34,933 --> 01:00:37,733 as well as wiretapping certain reporters. 1313 01:00:37,733 --> 01:00:41,200 (people murmuring) 1314 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,866 SMITH: Nixon and Kissinger were paranoid about leaks. 1315 01:00:43,866 --> 01:00:46,466 They wanted not only to control policy, 1316 01:00:46,466 --> 01:00:49,366 but they wanted to control the narrative about policy. 1317 01:00:49,366 --> 01:00:52,766 They wanted to decide when the public could find out, 1318 01:00:52,766 --> 01:00:54,566 when the Congress could find out, 1319 01:00:54,566 --> 01:00:56,600 when other members of the administration could find out. 1320 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,966 SCHWARTZ: Kissinger had brought to Washington 1321 01:00:59,966 --> 01:01:01,500 a large number of officials 1322 01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:03,500 in his National Security Council staff 1323 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:06,066 who were known to politically lean 1324 01:01:06,066 --> 01:01:08,033 more toward the Democrats. 1325 01:01:08,033 --> 01:01:10,366 And this immediately raised the suspicion 1326 01:01:10,366 --> 01:01:12,500 that they leaked this in order to undermine 1327 01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:13,966 the policy of the administration. 1328 01:01:13,966 --> 01:01:15,666 SMITH: Kissinger was convinced 1329 01:01:15,666 --> 01:01:17,233 there were people in his own staff-- 1330 01:01:17,233 --> 01:01:20,166 Mort Halperin, Tony Lake, Roger Morris, you name it-- 1331 01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:24,200 that were deliberately undermining their policy, 1332 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,500 that if they had an argument behind closed doors, 1333 01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:29,166 that these guys were going public with it. 1334 01:01:29,166 --> 01:01:32,633 That actually was a major subject for discussion, but... 1335 01:01:32,633 --> 01:01:34,600 SMITH: Nixon and Kissinger were both 1336 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,766 conspiratorial themselves, 1337 01:01:36,766 --> 01:01:39,966 and if you're conspiratorial yourself, 1338 01:01:39,966 --> 01:01:42,166 you tend to suspect everybody else 1339 01:01:42,166 --> 01:01:43,800 of being conspiratorial, too. 1340 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,333 ♪ ♪ 1341 01:01:45,333 --> 01:01:47,800 SARAH B. SNYDER: I do think that Nixon and Kissinger-- 1342 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,333 and, and I think it's important to think about them together-- 1343 01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:53,300 they fed on one another's paranoia, 1344 01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:57,500 they fed on one another's need for secrecy, 1345 01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:01,900 and they saw enemies in a very stark light. 1346 01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:07,566 And so there was always a sort of us-versus-them. 1347 01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:11,000 I was on vacation 1348 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,433 on Martha's Vineyard 1349 01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:13,900 when Seymour Hersh called me. 1350 01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:14,900 (phone ringing, receiver picks up) 1351 01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,100 And he said... 1352 01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,166 (on phone): "I'm running a story tomorrow 1353 01:02:17,166 --> 01:02:18,533 "that you, your phone was tapped, 1354 01:02:18,533 --> 01:02:21,600 and they've been listening to your telephone." 1355 01:02:22,966 --> 01:02:25,866 (in interview): And I was really pissed. 1356 01:02:25,866 --> 01:02:27,500 I mean, I threw rocks at seagulls for a while. 1357 01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:28,833 (gulls crying) 1358 01:02:28,833 --> 01:02:31,400 I don't find out about the wiretap for four years, 1359 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,133 but my home was wiretapped, my family was wiretapped. 1360 01:02:35,133 --> 01:02:36,633 The kids' conversations, 1361 01:02:36,633 --> 01:02:39,233 my wife's conversations with her mother. 1362 01:02:39,233 --> 01:02:41,433 I, I've got the wiretap logs now. 1363 01:02:45,366 --> 01:02:46,433 "Neighbor talks to Mrs. Smith. 1364 01:02:46,433 --> 01:02:48,100 "Mrs. Smith said they would be leaving 1365 01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,000 "in ten minutes for the weekend, 1366 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,600 "destination not given, 1367 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,266 "and wanted the neighbor to hold the papers for her. 1368 01:02:53,266 --> 01:02:55,666 "Mrs. Smith calls Hazel, the maid, 1369 01:02:55,666 --> 01:02:57,433 "and asks if she is coming over tomorrow. 1370 01:02:57,433 --> 01:02:59,266 Hazel said she would be there." 1371 01:02:59,266 --> 01:03:00,633 This is outrageous! 1372 01:03:00,633 --> 01:03:03,500 I mean, what the, what is the government doing, 1373 01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,433 listening to our phone calls, and, and... 1374 01:03:06,433 --> 01:03:08,400 Even if they were looking for national security, 1375 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,333 not having the decency and the smarts to say, 1376 01:03:11,333 --> 01:03:13,166 "We don't need this." 1377 01:03:13,166 --> 01:03:16,233 Unless they thought maybe we were passing secret signals 1378 01:03:16,233 --> 01:03:18,400 to the neighbor or Hazel. 1379 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,466 (people talking in background) 1380 01:03:21,466 --> 01:03:24,366 EISENBERG: It's a fateful decision to wiretap, 1381 01:03:24,366 --> 01:03:27,566 because it begins a policy 1382 01:03:27,566 --> 01:03:30,733 of distrust of your own people. 1383 01:03:30,733 --> 01:03:32,566 You know, even if they're your friends, 1384 01:03:32,566 --> 01:03:34,833 even if the people on your staff 1385 01:03:34,833 --> 01:03:36,266 came on your staff, 1386 01:03:36,266 --> 01:03:37,433 as many did for Kissinger, 1387 01:03:37,433 --> 01:03:41,000 because they think that Henry Kissinger 1388 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,733 is going to bring peace, and they're there to help, 1389 01:03:43,733 --> 01:03:45,933 they're there to pitch in and make that happen. 1390 01:03:45,933 --> 01:03:48,800 And now, he's gonna start treating them 1391 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,400 like they're enemies. 1392 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,233 And when that happens, 1393 01:03:52,233 --> 01:03:54,066 sort of the level of paranoia 1394 01:03:54,066 --> 01:03:56,733 begins to grow exponentially. 1395 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,933 MORTON HALPERIN: There was secrecy, subterfuge, 1396 01:04:00,933 --> 01:04:02,500 and confusion, 1397 01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:06,866 and you learned that Kissinger's word could not be trusted. 1398 01:04:06,866 --> 01:04:08,466 Whatever he told you, 1399 01:04:08,466 --> 01:04:10,100 you knew something else was going on. 1400 01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,766 He played off everybody against each other. 1401 01:04:12,766 --> 01:04:14,533 (talking in background) 1402 01:04:14,533 --> 01:04:15,766 LAKE: The truth, 1403 01:04:15,766 --> 01:04:17,700 as my Victorian grandmother used to say, 1404 01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:18,800 was not always in him. 1405 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,033 Nice to see you. 1406 01:04:20,033 --> 01:04:21,266 You could tell when 1407 01:04:21,266 --> 01:04:22,500 the eyebrows would come together 1408 01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:23,766 and he would be like this that he was being 1409 01:04:23,766 --> 01:04:25,233 perhaps a little devious. 1410 01:04:25,233 --> 01:04:28,866 But he was very effective, 1411 01:04:28,866 --> 01:04:30,600 mostly because of how smart he was 1412 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,733 and because he had absolute certainty in his views. 1413 01:04:33,733 --> 01:04:35,733 ♪ ♪ 1414 01:04:35,733 --> 01:04:38,000 HOSKINSON: He sought celebrity status, 1415 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,833 and he got celebrity status. 1416 01:04:40,833 --> 01:04:43,300 There was something about him that was different. 1417 01:04:47,466 --> 01:04:50,300 (people talking in background, piano playing, glasses clinking) 1418 01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:52,533 SALLY QUINN: The first time I met Henry Kissinger 1419 01:04:52,533 --> 01:04:54,400 was at a party for Gloria Steinem, 1420 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,433 and about halfway through the dinner, 1421 01:04:57,433 --> 01:04:59,366 I looked up and saw 1422 01:04:59,366 --> 01:05:02,500 this little guy standing alone in a corner. 1423 01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:03,600 So, I knew who he was, 1424 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,066 because I'd seen his picture, 1425 01:05:05,066 --> 01:05:07,333 so I walked over to him, and I said, 1426 01:05:07,333 --> 01:05:08,733 "Dr. Kissinger, how are you? 1427 01:05:08,733 --> 01:05:10,433 I'm Sally Quinn from 'The Washington Post.'" 1428 01:05:10,433 --> 01:05:12,933 And I said, "Why are you hiding over here in the corner?" 1429 01:05:12,933 --> 01:05:14,300 And he looked at me, he said... 1430 01:05:14,300 --> 01:05:17,500 (imitating): "Well, I'm really a secret swinger." 1431 01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:18,533 (chuckles) 1432 01:05:18,533 --> 01:05:21,566 KISSINGER: I said, "I'm too busy 1433 01:05:21,566 --> 01:05:25,333 "to do any public swinging, 1434 01:05:25,333 --> 01:05:28,933 "and I don't want you to think that I don't do any swinging, 1435 01:05:28,933 --> 01:05:32,633 so why don't you just assume I'm a secret swinger?" 1436 01:05:32,633 --> 01:05:34,200 The next day, 1437 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,466 he was inundated with calls from movie stars. 1438 01:05:36,466 --> 01:05:38,900 REPORTER: Kissinger is cutting quite a swath 1439 01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:40,300 on Washington's social scene. 1440 01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:41,966 He likes to spend well-publicized evenings 1441 01:05:41,966 --> 01:05:44,500 in the company of such ladies 1442 01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:46,300 as Jill St. John or Shirley MacLaine, 1443 01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,066 who add luster to his image 1444 01:05:48,066 --> 01:05:49,933 as the playboy of the Western Wing. 1445 01:05:49,933 --> 01:05:52,100 He was at Sans Souci restaurant 1446 01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:53,533 every night, every lunch, 1447 01:05:53,533 --> 01:05:55,666 with some babe. 1448 01:05:55,666 --> 01:05:57,166 It was incredible. 1449 01:05:57,166 --> 01:05:59,300 He became this sex symbol in Washington. 1450 01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:02,300 FERGUSON: Others watched in bewilderment, 1451 01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:05,766 trying to work out why this somewhat portly, overweight, 1452 01:06:05,766 --> 01:06:10,366 bespectacled Harvard professor with a strong German accent 1453 01:06:10,366 --> 01:06:13,833 could possibly be appealing to actresses. 1454 01:06:13,833 --> 01:06:14,833 NIXON: Where the hell 1455 01:06:14,833 --> 01:06:15,833 do you think Kissinger was 1456 01:06:15,833 --> 01:06:16,833 over the weekend 1457 01:06:16,833 --> 01:06:18,000 when I was trying to call him? 1458 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,000 ROSE MARY WOODS: Probably out with some babe. 1459 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,633 Why did he encourage 1460 01:06:20,633 --> 01:06:22,566 the secret swinger reputation? 1461 01:06:22,566 --> 01:06:24,800 I think he truly was just having fun. 1462 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,666 I mean, you know, 1463 01:06:26,666 --> 01:06:29,133 when Marlo Thomas and Candice Bergen 1464 01:06:29,133 --> 01:06:32,433 are interested in going on a date with you, 1465 01:06:32,433 --> 01:06:35,066 and you're a 46-year-old single man, 1466 01:06:35,066 --> 01:06:37,100 who wouldn't? 1467 01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:38,666 QUINN: Well, listen, 1468 01:06:38,666 --> 01:06:40,700 I was not in the bedroom with them. 1469 01:06:40,700 --> 01:06:43,933 (laughing): But, but I don't think that it was real romance. 1470 01:06:43,933 --> 01:06:46,300 But then he met Nancy, 1471 01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:48,466 and they were inseparable from then on. 1472 01:06:48,466 --> 01:06:51,000 ♪ ♪ 1473 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,333 DAVID KISSINGER: She's a very brilliant, 1474 01:06:53,333 --> 01:06:56,433 warm, and charismatic person, 1475 01:06:56,433 --> 01:06:58,866 very confident in her own right, 1476 01:06:58,866 --> 01:07:03,800 and her energy, her ability to live a big life, 1477 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,633 matched his. 1478 01:07:05,633 --> 01:07:11,266 And she also doesn't lack for self-confidence. 1479 01:07:11,266 --> 01:07:15,133 So, they just made for a very fulfilling pair. 1480 01:07:16,433 --> 01:07:19,266 Nancy was the love of his life. 1481 01:07:20,766 --> 01:07:24,100 You know, my parents divorced in 1962, 1482 01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:26,200 shortly after my birth, 1483 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,666 and he had met Nancy in 1968. 1484 01:07:30,666 --> 01:07:32,966 I think he was ready to marry her 1485 01:07:32,966 --> 01:07:34,433 from the moment they met. 1486 01:07:34,433 --> 01:07:39,233 So, all these other detours were really just that. 1487 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,700 ♪ ♪ 1488 01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:47,533 FERGUSON: The reality was, Henry Kissinger 1489 01:07:47,533 --> 01:07:51,800 was more a workaholic and a control freak 1490 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,233 than he was a secret swinger. 1491 01:07:54,233 --> 01:07:56,800 But Kissinger understood that this gave him 1492 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,400 not only stardom, 1493 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,000 but more importantly, 1494 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,866 some real influence. 1495 01:08:02,866 --> 01:08:05,866 Being popular with the journalists 1496 01:08:05,866 --> 01:08:07,400 can matter a lot, 1497 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,266 particularly when, as invariably happens, 1498 01:08:10,266 --> 01:08:13,666 Washington politics turns nasty. 1499 01:08:13,666 --> 01:08:17,500 KEYS: Kissinger was a master manipulator of the press. 1500 01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:18,833 This was at a time 1501 01:08:18,833 --> 01:08:20,366 when diplomatic correspondents 1502 01:08:20,366 --> 01:08:22,900 needed official sources of information, 1503 01:08:22,900 --> 01:08:27,133   and Kissinger knew how to feed information to them, 1504 01:08:27,133 --> 01:08:30,333 pretend to share secrets, flatter them. 1505 01:08:30,333 --> 01:08:32,266 MORRIS: He lied to them, 1506 01:08:32,266 --> 01:08:34,800 he deceived them, he rewarded them. 1507 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,100 He paid attention to them ceaselessly. 1508 01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,600 He curried the press 1509 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,500 as no foreign policy figure before him. 1510 01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:45,966 REPORTER: When he signed on Henry Kissinger, 1511 01:08:45,966 --> 01:08:47,500 the president had no idea 1512 01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:49,600 how effective he would turn out to be with the press corps. 1513 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,800 FERGUSON: His backgrounders, 1514 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,633 the background briefings, 1515 01:08:53,633 --> 01:08:56,500 became the most popular events 1516 01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:58,566 for the Washington press corps 1517 01:08:58,566 --> 01:09:00,300 that there had been in years. 1518 01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:02,900 REPORTER: How do you like the reporting on the backgrounders? 1519 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,466 I like the way that my anonymity is maintained. 1520 01:09:07,466 --> 01:09:09,800 (all laughing) 1521 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:10,900 SMITH: Kissinger was a charmer, 1522 01:09:10,900 --> 01:09:12,866 and he knew how to turn on the charm. 1523 01:09:12,866 --> 01:09:16,966 QUINN: But Henry was always using everybody. 1524 01:09:16,966 --> 01:09:19,000 That was his thing, that's what he did. 1525 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,200 So, of course he was using the press. 1526 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,833 I mean, he, he was very cynical about the press. 1527 01:09:23,833 --> 01:09:26,400 I mean, there are plenty of people in Washington 1528 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,033 who use people all the time. 1529 01:09:29,033 --> 01:09:31,866 But Henry took it to such another level of, 1530 01:09:31,866 --> 01:09:34,200 of expertise. (chuckles) 1531 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,133 You can't come back there with us. 1532 01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:39,200 QUINN: So when you're with Henry Kissinger, 1533 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,866 you always had to weigh two things. 1534 01:09:41,866 --> 01:09:43,333 (laughing): Your own morals, 1535 01:09:43,333 --> 01:09:45,066 values, and ethics, 1536 01:09:45,066 --> 01:09:47,433 and the fact that there's a really brilliant guy 1537 01:09:47,433 --> 01:09:50,233 who was fun to be around, had a good sense of humor. 1538 01:09:53,433 --> 01:09:55,066 CROWD: ♪ We shall overcome ♪ 1539 01:09:55,066 --> 01:09:57,000 REPORTER: On October 15, 1540 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,666 the first moratorium against the war 1541 01:09:58,666 --> 01:10:01,666 turned out huge crowds in cities all across the nation. 1542 01:10:01,666 --> 01:10:04,533 (shouting) 1543 01:10:04,533 --> 01:10:06,166 SCHWARTZ: In 1969, 1544 01:10:06,166 --> 01:10:08,233 there are massive demonstrations 1545 01:10:08,233 --> 01:10:09,766 throughout the United States 1546 01:10:09,766 --> 01:10:12,033 calling for an end to the war in Vietnam. 1547 01:10:12,033 --> 01:10:14,066 (chanting) 1548 01:10:14,066 --> 01:10:16,033 MORRIS: Now, we were, we were seeing those protests 1549 01:10:16,033 --> 01:10:18,333 from the outside and the inside. 1550 01:10:18,333 --> 01:10:21,333 Tony Lake and I had at one point stood outside, 1551 01:10:21,333 --> 01:10:22,766 on the South Lawn of the White House, 1552 01:10:22,766 --> 01:10:24,800 and watched our wives and children... 1553 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,033 (chuckling): ...demonstrating down Pennsylvania Avenue 1554 01:10:28,033 --> 01:10:29,733 against the war. 1555 01:10:29,733 --> 01:10:33,133 (chanting): Peace now! Peace now! 1556 01:10:33,133 --> 01:10:34,800 Peace now! 1557 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,000 LAKE: And I can remember, in the Old Executive Office Building, 1558 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,333 when I went up to the fifth or sixth floor, 1559 01:10:40,333 --> 01:10:42,600 there were American troops sitting there 1560 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,966 with their backs to the walls and weapons, 1561 01:10:43,966 --> 01:10:46,533 in case the White House 1562 01:10:46,533 --> 01:10:48,966 was attacked by the demonstrations outside. 1563 01:10:48,966 --> 01:10:51,200 And I agreed with the demonstrators, 1564 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,233 but there I was. 1565 01:10:54,733 --> 01:10:57,266 (protesters chanting) 1566 01:10:57,266 --> 01:10:59,766 SCHWARTZ: This has an enormous effect on Nixon, 1567 01:10:59,766 --> 01:11:02,300 who does not want to admit it has an effect. 1568 01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:04,700 What he does do in response 1569 01:11:04,700 --> 01:11:06,933 is give the "Silent Majority" speech. 1570 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,066 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 1571 01:11:11,066 --> 01:11:12,933 Tonight I want to talk to you 1572 01:11:12,933 --> 01:11:15,666 on a subject of deep concern to all Americans 1573 01:11:15,666 --> 01:11:18,333 and to many people in all parts of the world, 1574 01:11:18,333 --> 01:11:20,100 the war in Vietnam. 1575 01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:21,833 FERGUSON: He has the kind of epiphany 1576 01:11:21,833 --> 01:11:23,766 that everybody else has missed. 1577 01:11:23,766 --> 01:11:26,433 If there is an educated minority 1578 01:11:26,433 --> 01:11:28,166 implacably opposed to the war... 1579 01:11:28,166 --> 01:11:30,133 ...their government has told them about our policy... 1580 01:11:30,133 --> 01:11:32,400 ...doesn't that mean that there's a majority 1581 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,900 that doesn't feel that way? 1582 01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:36,033 To you, 1583 01:11:36,033 --> 01:11:38,600 the great silent majority 1584 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,166 of my fellow Americans, 1585 01:11:40,166 --> 01:11:42,700 I ask for your support. 1586 01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:45,300 I pledged in my campaign for the presidency 1587 01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:47,200 to end the war 1588 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,200 in a way that we could win the peace. 1589 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:55,433 FERGUSON: Nixon had his own innate disabilities as a politician. 1590 01:11:55,433 --> 01:11:56,900 What he also had, though, 1591 01:11:56,900 --> 01:11:59,533 was this ability to read the public 1592 01:11:59,533 --> 01:12:02,800 and to sense what the moment called for. 1593 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:08,300 North Vietnam cannot defeat or humiliate the United States. 1594 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,166 Only Americans can do that. 1595 01:12:12,166 --> 01:12:14,100 (teletype machines clacking) 1596 01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:16,200 REPORTER: Public reaction to the address was prompt, 1597 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,066 and some of those regarded as a silent majority 1598 01:12:20,066 --> 01:12:21,566 broke their silence. 1599 01:12:21,566 --> 01:12:24,666 FERGUSON: He's deluged with positive feedback to that speech. 1600 01:12:24,666 --> 01:12:26,766 And it helped him in the polls, 1601 01:12:26,766 --> 01:12:28,433 which he, of course, obsessively tracked. 1602 01:12:28,433 --> 01:12:30,866 And it helped him in the kind of feedback 1603 01:12:30,866 --> 01:12:34,033 that he got from telegrams and calls to the White House. 1604 01:12:34,033 --> 01:12:36,200 REPORTER: The White House says it received 1605 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,266 thousands of letters and postcards, 1606 01:12:38,266 --> 01:12:42,000 the vast majority supporting the president on Vietnam. 1607 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,166 In addition, many... 1608 01:12:43,166 --> 01:12:44,433 FERGUSON: It gave him time. 1609 01:12:44,433 --> 01:12:46,933 It gave him the time he desperately needed 1610 01:12:46,933 --> 01:12:48,833 to find some way out. 1611 01:12:48,833 --> 01:12:50,466 (film reel whirring) 1612 01:12:50,466 --> 01:12:51,933 And Kissinger had a plan. 1613 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,433 (jet engines roaring) 1614 01:12:58,433 --> 01:13:00,200 KHATHARYA UM: The bombing campaign in Cambodia 1615 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,533 was a secret, maybe, to the American, 1616 01:13:02,533 --> 01:13:04,033 but certainly not to the Cambodians. 1617 01:13:06,666 --> 01:13:08,100 EAR: Cambodia was never 1618 01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,733 in the foreground of the Vietnam War. 1619 01:13:09,733 --> 01:13:11,166 (explosion pounds) 1620 01:13:11,166 --> 01:13:12,633 Cambodia's suffering 1621 01:13:12,633 --> 01:13:16,033 was not in the public eye, and therefore 1622 01:13:16,033 --> 01:13:18,666 allowed to continue, 1623 01:13:18,666 --> 01:13:20,300 because nobody knew about it. 1624 01:13:21,266 --> 01:13:25,933 American B-52s ultimately dropped 1625 01:13:25,933 --> 01:13:29,366 539,000 tons of bombs. 1626 01:13:29,366 --> 01:13:32,666 That is more than Japan during World War II. 1627 01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:36,033 (people talking in background) 1628 01:13:36,033 --> 01:13:39,400 EAR: The bombing eviscerates the country, 1629 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,766 and two million people end up in Phnom Penh 1630 01:13:42,766 --> 01:13:46,600 as basically internally displaced persons. 1631 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,566 REPORTER: Some families manage to cling together. 1632 01:13:49,566 --> 01:13:53,033 Somehow they survive and find a sort of peace. 1633 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,900 EISENBERG: The secret bombing of Cambodia sets in motion 1634 01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:02,666 a set of events which result 1635 01:14:02,666 --> 01:14:04,733 in the overthrow of Prince Sihanouk, 1636 01:14:04,733 --> 01:14:07,466 and almost within a year, 1637 01:14:07,466 --> 01:14:09,633 a relatively stable place 1638 01:14:09,633 --> 01:14:12,433 has been turned into a hellhole. 1639 01:14:14,133 --> 01:14:16,333 KISSINGER: We could not permit the Communists 1640 01:14:16,333 --> 01:14:19,400 to act in Cambodia with total impunity, 1641 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,166 which they had occupied before we did anything. 1642 01:14:23,166 --> 01:14:25,400 The situation that is confronting 1643 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,133 both Nixon and Kissinger 1644 01:14:27,133 --> 01:14:29,800 in April of 1970 1645 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,466 was that Cambodia was disintegrating politically. 1646 01:14:34,466 --> 01:14:36,400 REPORTER: Many children still go to school, 1647 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,133 but many others carry guns. 1648 01:14:39,133 --> 01:14:41,533 The war in Cambodia touches everyone 1649 01:14:41,533 --> 01:14:43,833 and knows no age limits. 1650 01:14:43,833 --> 01:14:46,700 EISENBERG: What they were now confronting was, not only are you 1651 01:14:46,700 --> 01:14:48,300 going to have Communist troops 1652 01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:50,233 right on the border of South Vietnam, 1653 01:14:50,233 --> 01:14:53,066 but that the whole country is going to go Communist, 1654 01:14:53,066 --> 01:14:54,666 and then any possibility 1655 01:14:54,666 --> 01:14:57,100 of an acceptable deal in South Vietnam, 1656 01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:00,900 you know, would really begin to evaporate. 1657 01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:03,133 ♪ ♪ 1658 01:15:03,133 --> 01:15:06,900 FERGUSON: Kissinger argues that there was an opportunity here 1659 01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,066 to impact the course of the war. 1660 01:15:10,066 --> 01:15:13,066 The case he made to Nixon and to others 1661 01:15:13,066 --> 01:15:15,100 was, air power has its limits. 1662 01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:18,866 There's only so much you can do with a B-52. 1663 01:15:18,866 --> 01:15:21,033 You need to go in on the ground. 1664 01:15:21,033 --> 01:15:25,333 ♪ ♪ 1665 01:15:25,333 --> 01:15:26,500 MORRIS: He managed, I think, 1666 01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:29,533 to make his view Nixon's view 1667 01:15:29,533 --> 01:15:31,833 in a very skillful way, 1668 01:15:31,833 --> 01:15:34,433 while leaving Nixon with the impression 1669 01:15:34,433 --> 01:15:36,400 that Nixon had made the policy. 1670 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:41,100 That it was Nixon's brilliance and not Henry's. 1671 01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:44,066 REPORTER: From CBS News in Washington, 1672 01:15:44,066 --> 01:15:45,733 this special report. 1673 01:15:45,733 --> 01:15:47,066 Ladies and gentlemen, 1674 01:15:47,066 --> 01:15:48,566 the president of the United States. 1675 01:15:50,033 --> 01:15:52,500 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 1676 01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:54,866 BECKER: President Nixon went on air. 1677 01:15:54,866 --> 01:15:57,066 He stands in front of the map 1678 01:15:57,066 --> 01:15:58,666 and he says, 1679 01:15:58,666 --> 01:16:02,000 "We are going into Cambodia, 1680 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,966 "and we are going to go after the North Vietnamese, 1681 01:16:06,966 --> 01:16:08,533 "who they don't want in their country, 1682 01:16:08,533 --> 01:16:11,000 and sending the North Vietnamese back to their country." 1683 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,900 NIXON: If North Vietnam also occupied 1684 01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:17,666 this whole band in Cambodia, 1685 01:16:17,666 --> 01:16:19,366 or the entire country, 1686 01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:23,400 it would mean that South Vietnam was completely outflanked. 1687 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,633 BRIGHAM: And he explains, you know, 1688 01:16:25,633 --> 01:16:27,100 there are North Vietnamese troops 1689 01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:28,300 clearly inside of Cambodia, 1690 01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:31,300 violating Cambodia's neutrality, 1691 01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:34,733 and that those troops and supplies 1692 01:16:34,733 --> 01:16:36,700 pose a direct threat to the United States. 1693 01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:38,766 We will be patient 1694 01:16:38,766 --> 01:16:41,100 in working for peace. 1695 01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:42,900 We will be conciliatory 1696 01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:44,333 at the conference table. 1697 01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:47,200 But we will not be humiliated. 1698 01:16:48,166 --> 01:16:49,633 KISSINGER (dramatized): The president wants 1699 01:16:49,633 --> 01:16:52,200 a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. 1700 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,233 He doesn't want to hear anything. 1701 01:16:54,233 --> 01:16:56,166 It's an order-- it's to be done. 1702 01:16:56,166 --> 01:16:59,366 Anything that flies on anything that moves. 1703 01:16:59,366 --> 01:17:00,466 (receiver replaced) 1704 01:17:02,366 --> 01:17:06,133 LAKE: In April of 1970, Kissinger called in 1705 01:17:06,133 --> 01:17:08,566 me and Roger Morris, 1706 01:17:08,566 --> 01:17:10,066 and then three others, I believe. 1707 01:17:10,066 --> 01:17:11,766 At the meeting, 1708 01:17:11,766 --> 01:17:14,033 Kissinger said that we are going 1709 01:17:14,033 --> 01:17:16,066 to go into Cambodia. 1710 01:17:16,066 --> 01:17:17,966 And, "What do you think?" 1711 01:17:17,966 --> 01:17:22,033 And then we argued that this was bad strategically, 1712 01:17:22,033 --> 01:17:24,533 because Cambodia is now in play, et cetera, and domestically, 1713 01:17:24,533 --> 01:17:26,333 it was going to be a firestorm of some sort. 1714 01:17:26,333 --> 01:17:29,166 MORRIS: I remember banging my fist on the desk 1715 01:17:29,166 --> 01:17:31,966 to the point that some of the papers actually rose. 1716 01:17:31,966 --> 01:17:34,600 So, I said, "If there's one (muted) trooper 1717 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,566 across that line, I'm out of here." 1718 01:17:37,566 --> 01:17:38,966 Because I felt it was just, 1719 01:17:38,966 --> 01:17:40,933 it was the last straw of escalation. 1720 01:17:40,933 --> 01:17:43,766 We were working very hard, 1721 01:17:43,766 --> 01:17:46,766 night and day, literally, on a, 1722 01:17:46,766 --> 01:17:48,366 on a peace settlement. 1723 01:17:48,366 --> 01:17:50,066 (helicopters flying) 1724 01:17:50,066 --> 01:17:52,100 The notion that we would, at that point, 1725 01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:55,433 escalate very decidedly 1726 01:17:55,433 --> 01:17:59,566 with an armed invasion of, of American forces? 1727 01:17:59,566 --> 01:18:02,566 No, I mean, I just, I thought it was intolerable. 1728 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,200 LAKE: I bore the brunt of the argument, 1729 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,666 and at the end of it, 1730 01:18:06,666 --> 01:18:08,233 Kissinger said, and I can still hear his voice, 1731 01:18:08,233 --> 01:18:11,166 "Well, Tony, I knew what you were going to say." 1732 01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:15,366 And I thought to myself, "I can leave now. 1733 01:18:15,366 --> 01:18:16,766 "I can send him 1734 01:18:16,766 --> 01:18:19,833 "a subscription to 'The New Republic' or something, 1735 01:18:19,833 --> 01:18:21,333 and I can go." 1736 01:18:21,333 --> 01:18:24,000 And afterwards, I said to Roger, "Okay, this is it. 1737 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,133 I've had it." And he agreed. 1738 01:18:26,133 --> 01:18:29,566 And so we wrote a joint letter to him, 1739 01:18:29,566 --> 01:18:31,166 and handed it to Al Haig, and said, 1740 01:18:31,166 --> 01:18:32,733 "Please give it to him 1741 01:18:32,733 --> 01:18:34,633 on the day the invasion takes place." 1742 01:18:34,633 --> 01:18:35,966 Which he did. 1743 01:18:35,966 --> 01:18:39,266 And Kissinger was not pleased. 1744 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,466 NEWS ANCHOR: There are several thousand American troops 1745 01:18:44,466 --> 01:18:45,733 moving into Cambodia tonight. 1746 01:18:45,733 --> 01:18:48,600 The dimensions of the war 1747 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,566 have certainly widened. 1748 01:18:50,566 --> 01:18:52,566 NEWS ANCHOR: It's a gamble, 1749 01:18:52,566 --> 01:18:55,100 both in terms of the reaction of the enemy 1750 01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:56,900 and the reaction of American public opinion. 1751 01:18:56,900 --> 01:19:00,600 (shouting) 1752 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,233 FERGUSON: As usual, when the United States escalates in any way 1753 01:19:05,233 --> 01:19:06,866 in the Vietnam War, 1754 01:19:06,866 --> 01:19:10,966 the anti-war movement goes into action. 1755 01:19:10,966 --> 01:19:13,200 College campuses erupted. 1756 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,800 (canister bursts) 1757 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:20,533 (people yelling) 1758 01:19:20,533 --> 01:19:23,033 BECKER: What in the hell were we doing invading Cambodia? 1759 01:19:23,033 --> 01:19:25,566 (protesters shouting) 1760 01:19:25,566 --> 01:19:29,333 Everybody was angry-- they were waiting for peace. 1761 01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:31,600 And Congress was furious, 1762 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,733 because this was done without their consent. 1763 01:19:33,733 --> 01:19:35,700 (protesters shouting) 1764 01:19:35,700 --> 01:19:37,833 The student population went insane. 1765 01:19:37,833 --> 01:19:40,433 SCHWARTZ: It led to an explosion of unrest 1766 01:19:40,433 --> 01:19:42,700 at universities across the country, 1767 01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:46,000 leading to the tragic killing of students at Kent State. 1768 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,333 (guns firing) 1769 01:19:50,333 --> 01:19:51,700 REPORTER: National Guardsmen 1770 01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:53,233 opened fire with semi-automatic weapons. 1771 01:19:53,233 --> 01:19:55,300 EISENBERG: Suddenly, you have the National Guard, 1772 01:19:55,300 --> 01:19:56,766 like, shooting at students. 1773 01:19:56,766 --> 01:19:58,666 I mean, this is absolutely stunning. 1774 01:19:58,666 --> 01:20:00,166 REPORTER: After the shooting, 1775 01:20:00,166 --> 01:20:02,033 one young man dipped a black flag of revolution 1776 01:20:02,033 --> 01:20:03,433 in the blood and waved it about. 1777 01:20:03,433 --> 01:20:05,133 EISENBERG: You know, and then you have thousands 1778 01:20:05,133 --> 01:20:06,866 and thousands of students coming to Washington. 1779 01:20:06,866 --> 01:20:09,833 (shouting and chanting) 1780 01:20:09,833 --> 01:20:11,766 WALTER CRONKITE: Mr. Nixon bore heavily 1781 01:20:11,766 --> 01:20:13,966 his decision to send U.S. troops into Cambodia 1782 01:20:13,966 --> 01:20:17,300 and the awesome explosive impact of that decision here at home. 1783 01:20:17,300 --> 01:20:20,800 BECKER: It's hard to exaggerate the anger. 1784 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,733 REPORTER: A few of the demonstrators 1785 01:20:22,733 --> 01:20:24,733 confronted a cordon of buses at Lafayette Square 1786 01:20:24,733 --> 01:20:26,566 protecting the White House, 1787 01:20:26,566 --> 01:20:28,066 and from the other side, 1788 01:20:28,066 --> 01:20:30,533 police eventually responded with tear gas. 1789 01:20:30,533 --> 01:20:32,133 PROTESTER: It was a peaceful rally. 1790 01:20:32,133 --> 01:20:34,000 Peaceful until it was attacked 1791 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,466 in a vicious and brutal manner... 1792 01:20:35,466 --> 01:20:37,733 SCHWARTZ: Nixon came close to a nervous breakdown 1793 01:20:37,733 --> 01:20:39,466 in the wake of Kent State. 1794 01:20:39,466 --> 01:20:42,533 This was the price we paid for opposing Nixon 1795 01:20:42,533 --> 01:20:44,033 and his genocidal policies. 1796 01:20:44,033 --> 01:20:46,933 SCHWARTZ: And Kissinger felt himself 1797 01:20:46,933 --> 01:20:49,066 surrounded by protesters in his office. 1798 01:20:49,066 --> 01:20:50,433 PROTESTER: ...over and over again, 1799 01:20:50,433 --> 01:20:52,366 in the blood of our young people. 1800 01:20:52,366 --> 01:20:55,666 They certainly felt very much under siege. 1801 01:20:55,666 --> 01:21:00,000 KISSINGER: The biggest problem domestically 1802 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,433 was whether we could finally unite the country, 1803 01:21:04,433 --> 01:21:09,800 in which those who wanted peace would have peace, 1804 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,266 and those who wanted honor 1805 01:21:12,266 --> 01:21:15,333 could live with themselves. 1806 01:21:15,333 --> 01:21:17,933 MORRIS: I think Kissinger harbored the notion 1807 01:21:17,933 --> 01:21:20,966 that he could somehow pull off what Nixon wanted, 1808 01:21:20,966 --> 01:21:22,966 which was peace with honor. 1809 01:21:22,966 --> 01:21:25,966 But I think the quest for an end with honor 1810 01:21:25,966 --> 01:21:28,233 was really a prolongation 1811 01:21:28,233 --> 01:21:30,733 of the senseless waste and casualties. 1812 01:21:30,733 --> 01:21:32,400 (explosion pounds) 1813 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,133 That he did not pursue ending the war in Vietnam, 1814 01:21:35,133 --> 01:21:37,900 as he might have, with all of his gifts, 1815 01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:41,400 that he did not use his genius in that way, 1816 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,433 I think is his, 1817 01:21:43,433 --> 01:21:45,133 his ultimate indictment. 1818 01:21:50,066 --> 01:21:52,466 ♪ ♪ 1819 01:21:52,466 --> 01:21:53,833 ANNOUNCER: Next time... 1820 01:21:53,833 --> 01:21:55,066 WINSTON LORD: From the very beginning, 1821 01:21:55,066 --> 01:21:56,433 Kissinger was running all the major elements 1822 01:21:56,433 --> 01:21:57,633 of foreign policy. 1823 01:21:57,633 --> 01:21:59,966 JOHN NEGROPONTE: And it was Henry versus them. 1824 01:21:59,966 --> 01:22:01,233 ROHAM ALVANDI: This gave Kissinger 1825 01:22:01,233 --> 01:22:02,666 just tremendous power 1826 01:22:02,666 --> 01:22:04,066 because really he was the only person 1827 01:22:04,066 --> 01:22:05,266 that was fully in the loop. 1828 01:22:05,266 --> 01:22:06,633 DAVID KISSINGER: In his mind, 1829 01:22:06,633 --> 01:22:09,233 he was advancing the strength of the United States, 1830 01:22:09,233 --> 01:22:12,666 because America was the last best hope of humanity. 1831 01:22:12,666 --> 01:22:14,933 ANNOUNCER: The conclusion of "Kissinger"-- 1832 01:22:14,933 --> 01:22:17,633 next time on "American Experience." 1833 01:22:17,633 --> 01:22:20,000 Made possible in part by Liberty Mutual Insurance. 1834 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,866 ♪ ♪ 1835 01:22:22,866 --> 01:22:27,500 "American Experience: Kissinger" is available with PBS Passport 1836 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