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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,079 Hello and welcome to Global Eye from the BBC World Service. 2 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:25,079 Every week we bring you the best of the World Service's 3 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:26,719 investigative journalism, 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,559 as well as unmissable reporting from BBC teams all around the world. 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,439 I'm Stephanie Hegarty, and this week we're in Hungary. 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,679 In the aftermath of a political earthquake, 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,639 I've come here to find out how the EU's longest-serving Prime Minister, 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,159 Viktor Orban, lost power, and whether his downfall 9 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,079 could be a warning sign for populist leaders everywhere. 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,399 Also on the programme, we expose the extremist Russian vigilantes 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,079 using fear and intimidation to target members of the public 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,400 who they say are enemies of Russia. 13 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,399 Who is funding them, 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,719 and are they operating with the Kremlin's approval? 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,919 And Ukraine's surrogacy industry 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,120 has brought billions of dollars into the country. 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,799 But now politicians there are considering a ban 18 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,959 on allowing foreign couples to pay Ukrainian women 19 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,559 to bear children for them. 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,120 We'll explore why. 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,359 This is Kossuth Square in Budapest, 22 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,839 right in front of Hungary's national parliament. 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,079 And it was here on the 9th of May 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,479 that thousands of people gathered to celebrate a political upset 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,079 rarely seen in modern Europe. 26 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,439 Viktor Orban was the EU's longest-serving Prime Minister, 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,999 and for 16 years he built a political system around himself, 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,719 rewiring democracy to maintain control. 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,639 And that's why the results of April's elections, 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,279 along with the overwhelming turnout of 80%, 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,479 took many people by surprise. 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,919 The man now in charge, Peter Magyar, 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,119 has said he will dismantle the system that Orban built, 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,640 and he's promised there'll be a rebirth of democracy. 35 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,720 So how did Peter Magyar pull off such a stunning victory? 36 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,919 And what does the defeat of Viktor Orban, 37 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:41,159 a close partner of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin 38 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,399 and a thorn in the side of the EU and Ukraine, 39 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,519 mean for Europe and the world? 40 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,519 I spoke to Agnes Fernengel, a civil society expert, 41 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,039 to find out how Viktor Orban and his Fidesz party 42 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,199 managed to maintain such a powerful grip on Hungarian institutions. 43 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,239 For the past five years, since the Covid pandemic, 44 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,399 they had this state of danger 45 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,359 in place, which meant that they could suspend laws 46 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,599 and they could also accept laws without any parliamentary decisions. 47 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,679 The other part of sustaining power was the great propaganda machine 48 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,959 that Fidesz built. 49 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,199 So there was this kind of alternate reality built 50 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,559 through propaganda that was... 51 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,199 Around 70% of media was owned by Fidesz-related people. 52 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Viktor Orban also used his spending powers 53 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 to cement his control around the country. 54 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,439 The state funds and the EU funds were distributed to local towns 55 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,759 based on their support of Fidesz. 56 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,159 So those mayors got funding for developing their local towns. 57 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,959 Even locally, these mayors only included people 58 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,279 in the Public Works Scheme programmes 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,719 if they voted for Fidesz, for example. 60 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,399 Orban's populism resonated with ordinary Hungarians. 61 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,359 So it's really important to keep in mind that Orban's government 62 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,639 was a really popular government in the beginning, 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,039 so that they actually, like, increased employment a lot. 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,799 And they, like, talked in a way that really resonated with people, 65 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,720 in this, like, nationalistic language. 66 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,119 He became a beacon for leaders around the world 67 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,719 who wanted to recreate his brand of conservative populism. 68 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,439 We love Viktor. 69 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,639 Viktor, I call him, you know, 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,119 I put the little... the little accent on it. 71 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,759 You are fantastic, all right? 72 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,559 I know a lot of people don't agree with me, 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,199 but I'm the only one that matters when it comes... You are fantastic. 74 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,599 He's a great leader. 75 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,159 Many made pilgrimages to Budapest to learn from the man 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,359 who had pushed the democratic system close to its breaking point 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,439 and held on to power. 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,079 But discontent was growing, 79 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,159 and a new political coalition was building. 80 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,239 This is the headquarters of Partizan, 81 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,559 one of Hungary's most influential political YouTube channels, 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:58,159 and - once a rare thing - a media platform outside of Orban's control. 83 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,999 In 2024, Partizan published an interview that went viral. 84 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,039 It was with a political insider who broke ranks with Orban's party, 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,559 citing his concerns about corruption. 86 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,400 And that politician was Peter Magyar. 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,439 Magyar was an overnight sensation, 88 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,279 and within two years he had toppled Viktor Orban. 89 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:27,839 I asked Partizan's political editor 90 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,120 how Peter Magyar and his party Tisza managed it. 91 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,679 The interesting takeaway from 92 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,719 the Tisza victory is not about mobilising 93 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,199 one or the other social group, 94 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,999 but about forming a broader coalition than anyone 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,519 could have ever imagined. 96 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,879 I think the number of towns 97 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,679 he visited on the campaign trail is in the hundreds, 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,479 including small towns where people were really unused to politicians 99 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,799 displaying an attention to them. 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,079 And number two, his messaging 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,239 was around culturally very uncontroversial issues. 102 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,639 He managed to find the policy areas 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,999 where he would be the person with the position 104 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,839 that is a vast majority position in Hungary, 105 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:12,799 a culturally somewhat conservative country. 106 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,959 But after the euphoria comes reality, and the challenge 107 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,999 of trying to dismantle a system that was built to hold power in place. 108 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,839 On whether an old elite will survive, 109 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:27,319 I really think we can see signs of a fundamental change. 110 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,559 The media that Mr Orban has built 111 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,039 is being dismantled at a pace we hadn't expected. 112 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,279 So on that front, I do think there is fundamental change. 113 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:38,839 And with that comes a deeper question - 114 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,159 whether Hungary, once a standard-bearer 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,159 for a rising tide of conservative populism, 116 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,000 might now be where that tide begins to turn. 117 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,119 Now to Russia, where a new nationwide vigilante movement 118 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,759 has emerged, accelerating the drive 119 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,719 towards nationalism and control. 120 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,639 They call themselves Russkaya Obshina, 121 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,479 and they're accused of using fear and intimidation 122 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,519 against so-called enemies of Russia. 123 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,599 Their members say that they're defending public order 124 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,239 and supporting the war effort, 125 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,479 but critics warn they're acting as self-appointed enforcers 126 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,639 and that some of them are linked to extremism. 127 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,200 BBC Eye has been following their rise. 128 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,200 MUSIC THUMPS 129 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,240 For her 30th birthday, Katya hosted a themed party. 130 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,560 SHOUTING AND CHEERING 131 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,639 Alongside police, masked men 132 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,320 wearing patches reading "Russkaya Obshina" burst in. 133 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,079 As President Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine, 134 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,319 claiming he wanted to denazify the country, 135 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,519 changes that had already been happening in Russia 136 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,440 began to accelerate. 137 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,840 Patriotic education, a military economy... 138 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,920 ...and suppression of dissent all became part of daily life. 139 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,039 President Putin increasingly embraced 140 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,879 a vision of the country rooted in its past, 141 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,760 calling for a return to traditional values. 142 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,639 Across the country, nationalist movements 143 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,959 stepped forward and followed his lead. 144 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,440 PRAYING 145 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,960 CHANTING 146 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,359 Their activists say they help maintain public order, 147 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,319 support the war effort and revive Russian identity. 148 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,119 Their critics say some groups act 149 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,400 as fronts for extremism and intimidation. 150 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:40,159 Russkaya Obshina, or "the Russian community", is by far the largest. 151 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,079 CHANTING 152 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,279 It now has nearly 150 branches across the country 153 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,920 and the occupied territories. 154 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,279 Members are recruited through their expansive network 155 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,880 of social media channels. 156 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,479 Their channels celebrate Russian identity, 157 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,599 support for the war effort, and their intimidation 158 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,160 of those they believe undermine their values. 159 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,679 Dmitri - not his real name - 160 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:42,720 joined Russkaya Obshina over three years ago. 161 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,680 He agreed to talk if we protected his identity. 162 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,400 The group mostly targets migrants, but also abortion clinics... 163 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,280 ...and cultural events. 164 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,439 Russkaya Obshina mobilises their thousands of followers on Telegram, 165 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,160 urging them to take action in their neighbourhoods. 166 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,719 These interventions are initiated by followers 167 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,600 who report suspicious activity in group chats. 168 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,719 Then, either with law enforcement or alone, 169 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Russkaya Obshina members will turn up to confront their targets. 170 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,199 Others are pre-planned, such as raids against building sites, 171 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,040 hostels, shops and nightclubs. 172 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,719 Members share videos of the actions, to encourage others. 173 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Some posts viewed hundreds of thousands of times. 174 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,759 To understand the scale, BBC Eye analysed over 21,000 posts 175 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,319 on Telegram from its main public channels, 176 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,999 and verified that more than 900 raids 177 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,560 were carried out by its activists. 178 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Of these, over 300 were conducted with law enforcement. 179 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,720 These figures are likely an underestimate. 180 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,319 A month after her party was raided, Katya was charged with blasphemy, 181 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,040 a criminal offence carrying up to a three-year prison sentence. 182 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 BBC Eye reviewed court documents from the case. 183 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,759 Witnesses claimed she had insulted 184 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,000 the feelings of Orthodox believers. 185 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,800 A friend recorded her final words in court. 186 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:15,079 At its annual celebration of Russian tradition, 187 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,959 figures of power, influence and notoriety are front and centre, 188 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,559 including the Orthodox Church's powerful anti-migrant 189 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,640 hardliner, Archbishop Savva Tutunov. 190 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:32,719 After his show of public support, the Orthodox Church was to order 191 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,639 all bishops in Russia to work 192 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 alongside the group's local branches, 193 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:40,200 bringing Russkaya Obshina further into the fold. 194 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:47,000 Russkaya Obshina claims to be a grassroots movement. 195 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,719 Yet financial documents seen by BBC Eye reveal they 196 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,600 receive funding from obscure charitable foundations. 197 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,519 One belongs to Sergei Mikheyev. 198 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,479 Widely known for his provocative TV statements, 199 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,119 he is reported to work closely with 200 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:17,640 the Kremlin and on assignments for Russian intelligence abroad. 201 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,919 Another regular donor is 202 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,959 a foundation controlled by Igor Khudokormov, 203 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,799 a reclusive billionaire businessman 204 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,280 and one of Russia's largest landowners. 205 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,479 BBC Eye spoke to numerous supporters of Russkaya Obshina, 206 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,520 who describe how groups are mobilised alongside the authorities. 207 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,519 But also critics, who say their online 208 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,439 content inflates what they actually do. 209 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,279 We also heard from many victims, too scared to speak on camera, 210 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,720 who describe the climate of hostility gripping everyday life. 211 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,720 How long the movement lasts depends on the system. 212 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,320 Its ideas, however, continue to spread. 213 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,559 You can watch the full-length version of 214 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,359 Pray Raid Repeat on BBC iPlayer 215 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,000 and on the BBC World Service YouTube channel. 216 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,999 Here's some more impactful content from the World Service this week. 217 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,039 Staying in Hungary, the BBC recently launched a new 218 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,639 Hungarian language digital news offer called BBC Magyarul. 219 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,639 Between 1940 and 2005, 220 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,799 the BBC Hungarian service built up a reputation 221 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,799 as a reliable source of radio news for Hungarians, 222 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,999 even in times of adversity. 223 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,239 Throughout World War II and then during Communist rule in Hungary, 224 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,159 the service acted as a vital lifeline for accurate information. 225 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,959 And now BBC Hungarian is back, 226 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,519 adapting its format to the digital world 227 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,119 and once again providing 228 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:03,399 an independent and impartial voice for Hungarians. 229 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,159 You can find it at bbc.com/Magyarul, 230 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,400 and on Facebook and Instagram. 231 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,399 Ukraine has long been one of 232 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,319 the world's leading hubs for surrogacy, 233 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,839 attracting would-be parents 234 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,799 with lower costs and relatively relaxed laws. 235 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,559 Even after Russia's full-scale invasion, 236 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,639 the industry has continued to operate, 237 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,639 with fertility clinics adapting to life in a war zone. 238 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,039 But Ukraine's role in this industry has not been without controversy. 239 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,799 Now, a proposed law being debated in Ukraine's parliament 240 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,799 could ban surrogacy for foreign parents, 241 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,439 a move that could have repercussions around the world. 242 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,480 BBC Global health reporter Sofia Bettiza has this report. 243 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 SIREN WAILS 244 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,639 We just heard an air alarm, 245 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,039 which means that all the babies 246 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,800 are being taken to the basement for safety. 247 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,279 In a country at war, couples from around the world 248 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,399 are still coming to have children through surrogacy. 249 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,160 CHEERING 250 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,279 But is this conflict 251 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,160 pressuring vulnerable women to carry a child for someone else? 252 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,799 This offers Black Friday sale in babies. 253 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,079 They are not hiding, 254 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,639 they are outright saying what they are doing. 255 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,679 They are selling babies. 256 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,600 Now, a new law could ban surrogacy in Ukraine for foreign parents. 257 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,800 It's a beautiful day. 258 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879 Skies are blue. Sun is shining. 259 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,239 And we are very excited to meet our baby. 260 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,119 Elena and Igor have just crossed the border into Ukraine, 261 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,280 a country battered by four years of war. 262 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,919 They drove nearly 2,000km from Macedonia. 263 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,919 I was so scared to come. 264 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,439 Like, everything that you see on the news and it's a war. 265 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,759 We want to be parents, 266 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,319 so we're going to do anything to become parents. 267 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,439 We're going to move mountains to be parents. 268 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,519 This wasn't an easy choice. 269 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,079 Nine years trying to have a child. 270 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,759 Multiple rounds of IVF and surgeries. 271 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,799 Surrogacy was their last resort, 272 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,319 and Ukraine offered something few countries could - 273 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,199 a legal, well-established and affordable system. 274 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,159 Now, after nine months, 275 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,640 they're meeting their son for the first time. 276 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,839 At some time I'm saying, "OK, it's really happening. 277 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,639 "It's happened. It's ours." 278 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,679 It's just, you wish for so many years, 279 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,320 and then it came true! 280 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,280 It was the best thing that happened in our whole life. 281 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,079 Elena and Igor are not alone. 282 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,639 Every year, thousands travel to Ukraine for surrogacy. 283 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,759 Even when Russia invaded Ukraine, the war disrupted the industry 284 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,040 but it didn't stop it. 285 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,999 When Karina was 17, 286 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,760 a Russian attack destroyed her home in Bakhmut, leaving her homeless. 287 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,160 Now she's being paid around $17,000 for the pregnancy. 288 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,879 Critics say stories like Karina's raise difficult questions. 289 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,319 Surrogacy clinics have been pretty open that they target poor women. 290 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,879 And with the war going on, the number of poor women is growing. 291 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,799 The number of women who are desperate, 292 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,159 who are destitute, who lost their livelihood, their jobs. 293 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,759 They want to survive and support their families. 294 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,239 And surrogacy clinics offer them this opportunity 295 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,480 because Western couples want to buy babies on the cheap. 296 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,799 Surrogacy clinics don't see it this way. 297 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,039 They say they offer women a way 298 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,799 to earn money legally, while helping others have a child. 299 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:11,359 But this is part of a multibillion dollar global business. 300 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:16,919 Across websites and social media, clinics compete for clients. 301 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,079 Their marketing can be direct, even aggressive. 302 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,519 This offers Black Friday sale in babies, 303 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,319 so they are not hiding, they are outright saying what they are doing. 304 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,960 They are selling babies. 305 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,479 We found that in many cases, 306 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,319 intended parents are delayed in travelling 307 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359 to Ukraine to collect their newborns. 308 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:45,720 Some clinics even set up dedicated baby rooms. 309 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,800 SIREN WAILS 310 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,079 So, we just heard an air alarm, 311 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,719 which means that all the babies are being taken 312 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,959 to the basement for safety. 313 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,119 It's in this tense and high-risk environment 314 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:11,040 that intended parents sometimes leave their newborns. 315 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,759 But that could be about to change. 316 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,839 The Ukrainian parliament is debating 317 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,119 a new law that could ban surrogacy for foreign parents, 318 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,999 effectively shutting down one of 319 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,839 the world's biggest surrogacy markets. 320 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,439 The goal of that bill is to have regulations, 321 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,520 because we don't have them at this point at all. 322 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,279 For many couples from all over the world, 323 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,479 this is what made their hard-fought dream 324 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,880 of becoming parents come true. 325 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,639 I think it's totally... Wrong! ...wrong. 326 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,319 It's inhuman. Like this, we help them, 327 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,559 they helped us. 328 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:58,919 Without this, we will not have our Alexander here with us now. 329 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,759 Many countries have already banned or restricted surrogacy. 330 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,120 How long will this window of opportunity remain open? 331 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,679 Thanks for joining me here in Hungary. 332 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,759 We want to hear your feedback on Global Eye. 333 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,159 So let us know what you think, on social media, 334 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,839 using the hashtag #bbcglobaleye. 335 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720 We'll be back again next week. Goodbye. 28178

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