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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,241 --> 00:00:08,551 We have now defrosted and processed 2 00:00:08,655 --> 00:00:09,655 all of the bodies. 3 00:00:09,724 --> 00:00:11,206 All male, except one. 4 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:13,482 Champignon de mousse. 5 00:00:13,586 --> 00:00:15,113 So, she could have died in a swimming pool? 6 00:00:15,137 --> 00:00:16,562 So you're someone else who wants to know 7 00:00:16,586 --> 00:00:18,482 what it's like to be attracted to children? 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,172 It can be fun, you know? I'll make it fun. 9 00:00:21,275 --> 00:00:24,655 Carl was an abuser. There were lots of parties. 10 00:00:24,758 --> 00:00:26,482 May I ask, Harriet, why now? 11 00:00:26,586 --> 00:00:28,068 I had a dream about my daughter. 12 00:00:28,172 --> 00:00:29,517 She disappeared from school. 13 00:00:29,620 --> 00:00:31,310 The church isn't always locked. 14 00:00:31,413 --> 00:00:33,241 It's not just us, you know. 15 00:00:33,344 --> 00:00:34,344 Stop! 16 00:00:34,448 --> 00:00:36,103 He needs one more. 17 00:00:36,206 --> 00:00:37,413 She knows too much. 18 00:00:52,862 --> 00:00:54,206 Wait, are you timing? 19 00:00:54,310 --> 00:00:55,931 Timing's irrelevant, though. 20 00:01:01,379 --> 00:01:02,655 How long has it been though? 21 00:01:08,551 --> 00:01:09,551 Emily? 22 00:01:09,655 --> 00:01:10,689 Shush. 23 00:01:12,896 --> 00:01:13,931 - Emily? - Shush! 24 00:01:18,482 --> 00:01:19,724 Emily! 25 00:01:26,758 --> 00:01:28,103 Jesus! 26 00:01:28,206 --> 00:01:29,458 Did your hand get stuck or something? 27 00:01:29,482 --> 00:01:31,320 'Cause I was genuinely spooked there for a second. 28 00:01:31,344 --> 00:01:32,620 What was it like? 29 00:01:33,206 --> 00:01:35,862 It's all right. It's not as bad as all that. 30 00:01:36,413 --> 00:01:37,758 Did you even do it though? 31 00:01:37,862 --> 00:01:38,931 Of course. 32 00:01:42,206 --> 00:01:43,310 Anna, you twat! 33 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:53,803 Hurry up and put your clothes on, 34 00:01:53,827 --> 00:01:55,413 - you're making me cold. - Here. 35 00:01:55,517 --> 00:01:57,275 Anna! 36 00:01:57,379 --> 00:01:58,689 My God. 37 00:02:00,068 --> 00:02:01,862 Shit, it's all over you. 38 00:02:01,965 --> 00:02:03,172 What about you, Bethan? 39 00:02:06,172 --> 00:02:07,551 No, I thought not. 40 00:02:07,655 --> 00:02:08,689 Charity case. 41 00:02:12,517 --> 00:02:14,758 OK, come on. I can't be arsed with this lot. 42 00:02:16,655 --> 00:02:18,620 Genuinely though, that's so lame. 43 00:02:24,413 --> 00:02:25,620 Let's go. 44 00:02:39,103 --> 00:02:40,103 Bethan? 45 00:02:44,482 --> 00:02:46,344 Bethan, don't. It's done. 46 00:02:46,448 --> 00:02:47,724 What do I have to do? 47 00:02:48,379 --> 00:02:49,655 Quickly. I can do it. 48 00:02:52,827 --> 00:02:54,689 You bring up a handful of the black silt 49 00:02:54,793 --> 00:02:56,482 in between the rocks at the bottom. 50 00:02:56,586 --> 00:02:58,793 It's stupid. Please, get out. You don't have to do it. 51 00:03:27,896 --> 00:03:28,896 Bethan. 52 00:03:40,551 --> 00:03:41,551 Bethan! 53 00:03:47,793 --> 00:03:49,586 Bethan? Bethan? 54 00:03:54,862 --> 00:03:56,344 Bethan! 55 00:05:03,896 --> 00:05:04,931 Ma'am? 56 00:05:06,448 --> 00:05:08,034 OK, that's... 57 00:05:12,965 --> 00:05:14,000 It's Mary Burkeman. 58 00:05:14,965 --> 00:05:16,482 A member of the public called it in. 59 00:05:17,862 --> 00:05:19,586 Heard a loud splash and then a scream. 60 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:24,862 And it happened here? 61 00:05:27,931 --> 00:05:29,448 I need this gone. 62 00:05:30,275 --> 00:05:31,551 I need it to stop. 63 00:05:31,655 --> 00:05:33,335 And at the moment, this just feels endless. 64 00:05:33,413 --> 00:05:35,172 Death after death after death. 65 00:05:35,275 --> 00:05:38,034 And we look incompetent, because we are incompetent. 66 00:05:39,275 --> 00:05:41,310 I have worked my entire life. 67 00:05:41,413 --> 00:05:43,620 I've done everything I was supposed to do. 68 00:05:43,724 --> 00:05:45,206 And now it doesn't matter what I do, 69 00:05:45,310 --> 00:05:48,551 this is all I or you will ever be. 70 00:05:48,655 --> 00:05:50,517 We'll be the women that failed. 71 00:06:48,931 --> 00:06:49,931 Kebabs. 72 00:06:50,034 --> 00:06:52,655 Chilli sauce and onions on both. Delicious. 73 00:06:52,758 --> 00:06:54,620 - Can I come in? - Sure. 74 00:06:57,482 --> 00:06:58,793 I know it's late. 75 00:07:00,103 --> 00:07:02,655 It's two o'clock in the morning. 76 00:07:02,758 --> 00:07:04,586 I know. I know. It's... 77 00:07:06,517 --> 00:07:07,931 been a weird day. 78 00:07:08,034 --> 00:07:09,275 OK. 79 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:13,206 I'm partly here because of, Mary Burkeman. 80 00:07:14,103 --> 00:07:15,103 You've found her? 81 00:07:20,758 --> 00:07:21,758 Yeah. 82 00:07:23,551 --> 00:07:24,655 It's not like the others. 83 00:07:25,758 --> 00:07:27,172 She was pulled from the river. 84 00:07:31,517 --> 00:07:33,793 So, that's the last of her family. 85 00:07:33,896 --> 00:07:35,344 She's all alone. 86 00:07:37,241 --> 00:07:39,034 If Victoria has done this... 87 00:07:42,793 --> 00:07:43,965 will it stop now? 88 00:07:47,689 --> 00:07:48,896 We need it to stop. 89 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,206 I need it to stop. 90 00:08:18,724 --> 00:08:21,620 I've never felt so needed in my entire life. 91 00:08:21,724 --> 00:08:23,482 And it is a horrible, horrible thing. 92 00:08:25,448 --> 00:08:26,448 I can't let them down. 93 00:08:27,103 --> 00:08:28,206 You won't. 94 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,034 You won't. 95 00:08:37,137 --> 00:08:38,862 Yeah, I'm sorry it's 2:00 a.m. 96 00:08:38,965 --> 00:08:40,655 It's absolutely 2:00 a.m. 97 00:08:40,758 --> 00:08:42,137 I know. 98 00:08:42,689 --> 00:08:44,586 Should I just fuck off and I'll see you later? 99 00:08:45,034 --> 00:08:46,103 Sure. 100 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,206 Yeah, I'm not gonna kiss you, 'cause I just had a kebab. 101 00:08:52,862 --> 00:08:56,172 So I'll just plant one there instead. 102 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,275 Night, night. 103 00:08:58,379 --> 00:08:59,448 Night. 104 00:09:47,413 --> 00:09:48,448 Control to all units, 105 00:09:48,551 --> 00:09:50,310 we have reports of a break-in in progress. 106 00:09:50,413 --> 00:09:52,310 Suspect may still be on the premises. 107 00:09:52,413 --> 00:09:53,724 Backup requested, over. 108 00:09:54,344 --> 00:09:55,344 Anything? 109 00:09:55,448 --> 00:09:56,620 Nope. 110 00:09:57,793 --> 00:09:59,079 Neighbour said they heard the smash. 111 00:09:59,103 --> 00:10:01,206 Saw someone in a hood tryin' to jimmy the lock. 112 00:10:04,655 --> 00:10:06,103 Have you tried the door? 113 00:10:21,137 --> 00:10:23,344 Police! Is anyone here? 114 00:10:25,551 --> 00:10:27,413 Looks like it's been empty for months. 115 00:10:28,827 --> 00:10:31,137 My money's on drugs. 116 00:10:38,896 --> 00:10:40,034 What the hell? 117 00:10:47,827 --> 00:10:50,517 Rob? Rob. 118 00:11:05,034 --> 00:11:06,793 David fucking White. 119 00:11:06,896 --> 00:11:08,620 Staring at us on CCTV. 120 00:11:09,689 --> 00:11:11,482 Are Victoria and David working together? 121 00:11:12,689 --> 00:11:14,103 How could we miss this? 122 00:11:14,896 --> 00:11:17,379 I... At the very least, these images confirm 123 00:11:17,482 --> 00:11:20,103 that Victoria has been keeping her mother captive. 124 00:11:20,517 --> 00:11:21,896 Could she have been... 125 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:24,103 delivering her? 126 00:11:24,206 --> 00:11:26,379 Th-There's no way they'd be working together. 127 00:11:26,482 --> 00:11:27,793 She's after his associates. 128 00:11:27,896 --> 00:11:31,862 Yeah, as far as we know. What about Bethan Pryce? 129 00:11:31,965 --> 00:11:33,000 What about her? 130 00:11:33,103 --> 00:11:34,965 Well, the pond water you collected 131 00:11:35,068 --> 00:11:38,379 was a match for the diatoms in Bethan's lungs. 132 00:11:38,482 --> 00:11:41,448 She drowned in that pond near Beecham College, 133 00:11:41,551 --> 00:11:43,586 while in Victoria Burkeman's year there. 134 00:11:43,689 --> 00:11:45,172 She was then found hidden in a crypt 135 00:11:45,275 --> 00:11:47,103 less than a mile from the school. 136 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:48,766 Yeah, I'm not doubting she's connected. 137 00:11:48,827 --> 00:11:50,467 That's what I've been trying to tell you. 138 00:11:50,655 --> 00:11:51,931 Yeah, I just... 139 00:11:52,965 --> 00:11:55,034 I don't think Victoria is guilty of her death. 140 00:11:55,137 --> 00:11:56,551 I don't. 141 00:11:56,655 --> 00:11:58,620 What I don't understand is... is how she's 142 00:11:58,724 --> 00:12:00,517 hiding so successfully. 143 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:04,655 She doesn't use cards, 144 00:12:05,103 --> 00:12:06,758 she uses burner phones, 145 00:12:06,862 --> 00:12:08,217 and we've only got her school photograph. 146 00:12:08,241 --> 00:12:10,113 It's like we're chasing somebody who doesn't exist. 147 00:12:10,137 --> 00:12:11,172 Ma'am. 148 00:12:12,793 --> 00:12:14,344 Sorry to interrupt. 149 00:12:16,241 --> 00:12:18,113 I followed up after your meeting with Eleanor Lowry, 150 00:12:18,137 --> 00:12:19,172 and I found this image 151 00:12:19,275 --> 00:12:21,310 from an online Oxford University archive. 152 00:12:22,413 --> 00:12:23,827 The man here with the glasses 153 00:12:23,931 --> 00:12:26,965 is the psychiatrist Dr Julian Carter. 154 00:12:27,068 --> 00:12:29,068 He's the man who said that Victoria was lying 155 00:12:29,172 --> 00:12:31,103 about being abused when she was a teenager. 156 00:12:31,724 --> 00:12:35,172 This is him at Oxford. And this guy on the left... 157 00:12:35,275 --> 00:12:36,379 Ben Burkeman. 158 00:12:37,551 --> 00:12:39,724 And that is Bertram Lowry. 159 00:12:40,379 --> 00:12:41,517 Carl's father? 160 00:12:42,344 --> 00:12:43,862 And Eleanor's. 161 00:12:43,965 --> 00:12:45,310 So when Dr Carter confirmed 162 00:12:45,413 --> 00:12:46,931 that Victoria had made it all up, 163 00:12:47,034 --> 00:12:48,724 it suggests a group of abusers 164 00:12:48,827 --> 00:12:50,689 have used their own psychiatrist mate 165 00:12:50,793 --> 00:12:52,275 to silence their victims. 166 00:12:52,896 --> 00:12:55,172 Dr Carter died five years ago, cancer. 167 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:58,689 And Bertram Lowry passed away from a heart attack in 2010. 168 00:12:58,793 --> 00:12:59,862 Fuck! 169 00:13:04,137 --> 00:13:05,275 Why is everyone dead? 170 00:13:06,965 --> 00:13:08,206 Well, I need coffee. 171 00:13:11,379 --> 00:13:12,379 Mike? 172 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:33,310 Fuck! 173 00:14:06,793 --> 00:14:08,206 Uniform called it in. 174 00:14:08,931 --> 00:14:10,827 It was only when speaking to the landlord, 175 00:14:10,931 --> 00:14:12,310 Victoria's name was flagged. 176 00:14:13,172 --> 00:14:15,448 She leaves him cash in an envelope every month. 177 00:14:15,551 --> 00:14:16,724 Has done since 2010. 178 00:14:17,655 --> 00:14:18,896 He's in his eighties. 179 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,931 He's... he's, he's been living under a rock. 180 00:14:22,172 --> 00:14:23,655 All right, guv? 181 00:15:26,862 --> 00:15:29,379 This bracelet, that's a match to the one Bethan had. 182 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Jeanette? 183 00:16:06,379 --> 00:16:07,379 Yeah. 184 00:16:08,103 --> 00:16:09,103 Look. 185 00:16:28,758 --> 00:16:29,827 What is that? 186 00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:45,896 Beecham College. 187 00:16:52,896 --> 00:16:53,896 Hi, bunny. 188 00:16:58,827 --> 00:17:00,965 I need everything in this room bagged. 189 00:17:03,275 --> 00:17:05,068 Everything means something. 190 00:17:05,862 --> 00:17:07,896 She broke that window on purpose. 191 00:17:08,620 --> 00:17:10,206 She wants us to see. 192 00:17:10,310 --> 00:17:11,689 We got a match. 193 00:17:12,344 --> 00:17:13,551 That girl in the freezer. 194 00:17:14,482 --> 00:17:18,000 Eva's analysed the semen found and we've got a match. 195 00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:19,965 Liam Draper, 19 years old. 196 00:17:20,068 --> 00:17:21,655 Previous for petty theft. 197 00:17:38,517 --> 00:17:39,517 Shit. 198 00:17:44,896 --> 00:17:45,931 Alex. 199 00:17:47,413 --> 00:17:49,172 Has something happened? Is everything OK? 200 00:17:49,862 --> 00:17:51,000 Is it Jeanette? 201 00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:54,310 Alex. 202 00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:57,275 Is she here? 203 00:17:58,448 --> 00:17:59,517 Now? No. 204 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:00,793 So she's been here? 205 00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:01,896 But she's not here now. 206 00:18:01,965 --> 00:18:03,113 But you've been spending time together? 207 00:18:03,137 --> 00:18:05,034 - Hangin' out? - I... 208 00:18:05,137 --> 00:18:06,251 Are you sleeping with my wife? 209 00:18:06,275 --> 00:18:07,482 I'm sorry? 210 00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:08,586 You're obfuscating. 211 00:18:08,689 --> 00:18:09,758 I'm asking you a question. 212 00:18:09,862 --> 00:18:11,413 Are you fucking my wife? 213 00:18:11,517 --> 00:18:14,551 Alex, I'm sorry you feel like this. 214 00:18:14,655 --> 00:18:17,206 Er... I can't help you. I barely know your wife. 215 00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:18,724 What do you want with us? 216 00:18:20,034 --> 00:18:21,310 Stay away from us! 217 00:18:25,034 --> 00:18:26,275 Get out! 218 00:18:27,310 --> 00:18:28,310 Get out. 219 00:18:30,172 --> 00:18:31,241 Out. 220 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:21,907 Afternoon, sir. Could I just have 221 00:19:21,931 --> 00:19:23,458 - a second of your time, please? - No, thank you. 222 00:19:23,482 --> 00:19:25,241 Er... That's all right, have a lovely day. 223 00:19:26,344 --> 00:19:29,068 Hi. Er, sorry, it's not often I get people approaching me. 224 00:19:29,172 --> 00:19:31,413 Er, but before I tell you a little bit about what we do, 225 00:19:31,517 --> 00:19:32,631 are you both having a lovely day? 226 00:19:32,655 --> 00:19:34,758 Liam Draper? DCI Jeanette Kilburn. 227 00:19:34,862 --> 00:19:35,862 DC Mike Dilliston. 228 00:19:35,965 --> 00:19:37,758 With Bristol Metropolitan Police. 229 00:19:38,068 --> 00:19:40,286 You know you're supposed to go through my parole officer? 230 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:42,586 I asked that anything like that can be done through him. 231 00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:45,689 Look, it's not good for the cause. 232 00:19:45,793 --> 00:19:47,206 You can call your parole officer. 233 00:19:47,310 --> 00:19:48,310 Or a solicitor. 234 00:19:48,724 --> 00:19:50,000 What's the point? 235 00:19:50,103 --> 00:19:51,631 Look, is there somewhere private we can talk? 236 00:19:51,655 --> 00:19:53,620 Yeah, whatever. Fine. 237 00:19:54,758 --> 00:19:55,758 Go on, then. 238 00:20:00,862 --> 00:20:03,379 So, Liam, there's no easy way to say this, 239 00:20:03,931 --> 00:20:05,379 but earlier this week, 240 00:20:05,482 --> 00:20:07,042 several bodies were found up at a farm. 241 00:20:08,068 --> 00:20:10,228 You don't think I had anything to do with that, do you? 242 00:20:10,827 --> 00:20:11,965 Do you? 243 00:20:12,413 --> 00:20:14,379 For fuck's sake, man. I swear I never... 244 00:20:14,482 --> 00:20:15,620 OK, just... 245 00:20:15,724 --> 00:20:19,586 Among the bodies, we found one female body. 246 00:20:20,827 --> 00:20:22,517 We've not been able to identify her, 247 00:20:23,241 --> 00:20:26,034 but we have found various DNA samples from her, 248 00:20:26,137 --> 00:20:27,724 and you have been identified. 249 00:20:28,758 --> 00:20:29,758 You can't be serious. 250 00:20:30,793 --> 00:20:32,034 You think I murdered someone? 251 00:20:32,793 --> 00:20:34,251 It's not me. You're wrong. You've got the wrong person. 252 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:35,827 I'd like to show you her photograph. 253 00:20:36,137 --> 00:20:37,458 Show me her, because I don't fucking know her, all right? 254 00:20:37,482 --> 00:20:38,482 I don't know why my DN... 255 00:20:54,344 --> 00:20:55,344 You OK, Liam? 256 00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:00,310 What happened to her hair? 257 00:21:01,655 --> 00:21:02,793 What? 258 00:21:03,103 --> 00:21:04,379 Rach's hair. 259 00:21:05,034 --> 00:21:06,206 Rach? 260 00:21:09,206 --> 00:21:10,448 That's Rachel. 261 00:21:11,517 --> 00:21:13,000 My God. 262 00:21:17,793 --> 00:21:19,206 Who did this to her? 263 00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:20,493 That's what we're trying to find out. 264 00:21:20,517 --> 00:21:21,931 Tell us about her. 265 00:21:22,827 --> 00:21:24,275 Go on, tell us about Rachel. 266 00:21:28,517 --> 00:21:29,586 She was my girlfriend. 267 00:21:30,896 --> 00:21:32,793 She went missing. And... 268 00:21:34,724 --> 00:21:35,724 I never saw her again. 269 00:21:36,586 --> 00:21:37,586 Well, when was this? 270 00:21:38,758 --> 00:21:40,103 It was five years ago. 271 00:21:41,482 --> 00:21:44,931 Tuesday, the 20th of November, 2019. 272 00:21:45,034 --> 00:21:46,034 Yeah. 273 00:21:49,206 --> 00:21:50,724 That was the last time I saw her. 274 00:21:51,482 --> 00:21:53,620 As much information as you can, Liam, please. 275 00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:56,310 Her name is Rachel Fisher. 276 00:21:57,344 --> 00:21:58,862 I met her at Ledford House. 277 00:21:58,965 --> 00:22:00,205 We were there at the same time. 278 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:06,448 Ledford House? 279 00:22:07,517 --> 00:22:08,551 Yeah. 280 00:22:09,689 --> 00:22:11,862 Run me through the day she went missing, Liam, please. 281 00:22:13,310 --> 00:22:14,965 It was just a normal day. 282 00:22:16,965 --> 00:22:18,689 And we hung out in the morning. 283 00:22:19,862 --> 00:22:22,103 She was going to a party that night, so I... 284 00:22:22,724 --> 00:22:24,551 just sat with her while she did her makeup. 285 00:22:24,655 --> 00:22:25,655 What kind of party? 286 00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:27,793 I don't know. 287 00:22:27,896 --> 00:22:29,862 I never got invited. She said I couldn't come. 288 00:22:31,379 --> 00:22:33,034 She got all quiet and... and sad, 289 00:22:33,137 --> 00:22:34,937 and I hated seeing her like that so, I just... 290 00:22:39,482 --> 00:22:40,793 I didn't ask. 291 00:22:42,379 --> 00:22:44,517 And now... now I'd have known better. 292 00:22:45,551 --> 00:22:47,172 But I was just a kid. 293 00:22:47,275 --> 00:22:48,827 No, we were both just kids. 294 00:22:53,275 --> 00:22:54,493 We hung out, she went to a party, 295 00:22:54,517 --> 00:22:55,517 and she never came back. 296 00:22:58,862 --> 00:22:59,862 Did you have sex with her 297 00:22:59,896 --> 00:23:01,241 the day she went to the party? 298 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,206 Yeah... 299 00:23:11,103 --> 00:23:12,655 Yeah, we did, yeah. 300 00:23:13,482 --> 00:23:15,862 But I asked her so many times if she was sure. 301 00:23:17,068 --> 00:23:19,586 All right? She said she wanted to do it with someone that... 302 00:23:21,034 --> 00:23:22,620 that loved her. 303 00:23:22,724 --> 00:23:24,448 That was the only time we... 304 00:23:33,068 --> 00:23:34,068 How many samples? 305 00:23:35,275 --> 00:23:37,620 You said before there was more than one DNA sample. 306 00:23:38,862 --> 00:23:39,896 How many? 307 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 - I'm not... - How many? 308 00:23:41,103 --> 00:23:43,310 Five. Not including yours. 309 00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:55,172 I told the staff. 310 00:23:56,448 --> 00:23:57,448 I told them, and... 311 00:23:57,551 --> 00:23:59,068 and they said they'd look into it, 312 00:24:00,206 --> 00:24:01,458 but they couldn't make her come back 313 00:24:01,482 --> 00:24:02,655 if she didn't want to. 314 00:24:03,344 --> 00:24:04,344 It's bullshit. 315 00:24:05,758 --> 00:24:07,758 Would you make an official statement for us, Liam? 316 00:24:08,931 --> 00:24:09,965 Yeah. 317 00:24:12,586 --> 00:24:14,724 Yeah, whatever you need. Yeah. 318 00:24:17,793 --> 00:24:19,758 I know you probably can't tell me, but... 319 00:24:25,655 --> 00:24:27,206 What happened to her hair? 320 00:24:29,413 --> 00:24:31,000 I'm sorry, Liam, we don't know. 321 00:24:32,931 --> 00:24:34,000 OK. 322 00:24:42,068 --> 00:24:43,068 Thank you, Liam. 323 00:24:52,724 --> 00:24:55,758 Two bodies, decades apart, from the same care home. 324 00:24:56,448 --> 00:24:57,448 I'm gonna call them now. 325 00:24:57,551 --> 00:24:58,896 No, we go in person. 326 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,103 But we can't. 327 00:25:00,206 --> 00:25:01,566 You gotta meet with Eleanor Lowry. 328 00:25:01,827 --> 00:25:03,724 Shit. 329 00:25:12,551 --> 00:25:14,689 Take a seat wherever you're comfortable, Eleanor. 330 00:25:22,586 --> 00:25:24,426 We're very grateful to you for coming in today. 331 00:25:24,482 --> 00:25:25,620 Thank you. 332 00:25:26,103 --> 00:25:28,241 If you think this will help, then that's fine. 333 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:30,000 Let's do it. 334 00:25:34,689 --> 00:25:36,103 Hi, Eleanor. 335 00:25:36,517 --> 00:25:38,448 My name's Dr Sophia Craven, 336 00:25:38,551 --> 00:25:39,591 and I am here to help with 337 00:25:39,689 --> 00:25:41,169 some of the more difficult questions. 338 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:46,310 OK. 339 00:25:55,724 --> 00:25:56,924 How well have you briefed her? 340 00:25:58,137 --> 00:25:59,206 Well enough. 341 00:25:59,310 --> 00:26:00,793 She's instinctive. 342 00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:03,137 She'll feel her way through it. 343 00:26:08,862 --> 00:26:11,103 What can happen when we experience trauma 344 00:26:11,206 --> 00:26:13,965 is that our brain can compartmentalise it. 345 00:26:14,068 --> 00:26:16,275 It can almost isolate the memory 346 00:26:16,379 --> 00:26:19,068 and say, "No, thanks," and it locks it away. 347 00:26:19,172 --> 00:26:21,068 It's a really smart thing to do. 348 00:26:22,275 --> 00:26:23,275 It's just, in this case, 349 00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:25,931 your memories potentially contain evidence 350 00:26:26,034 --> 00:26:28,517 that will help the police bring people to justice. 351 00:26:29,724 --> 00:26:30,724 I'm aware. 352 00:26:31,034 --> 00:26:32,310 OK. 353 00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:39,551 Would you like to begin 354 00:26:39,655 --> 00:26:42,379 by telling me a memory from that time? 355 00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:48,655 Did you have a favourite television programme? 356 00:26:48,758 --> 00:26:50,862 Or maybe some music you liked to listen to? 357 00:26:53,241 --> 00:26:55,034 I liked All Saints. 358 00:26:55,137 --> 00:26:57,551 I didn't watch much television, 359 00:26:57,655 --> 00:26:58,965 but I really liked All Saints. 360 00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:01,388 And where did you listen to them? 361 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,034 In my room... 362 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:08,172 in the car... with my mother. 363 00:27:10,896 --> 00:27:12,241 And what was your mother like? 364 00:27:13,517 --> 00:27:15,000 She was pleasant enough. 365 00:27:15,827 --> 00:27:17,172 Never unkind to me. 366 00:27:18,379 --> 00:27:20,448 Did enough mothering not to be caught out. 367 00:27:24,931 --> 00:27:25,931 What's in the bags? 368 00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:28,689 I have some items 369 00:27:28,793 --> 00:27:30,896 that we've retrieved from a property believed to be 370 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,103 Victoria Burkeman's last known address. 371 00:27:33,206 --> 00:27:35,931 Police just wanted to see if you recognised anything. 372 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,827 So, what's the first thought you have 373 00:28:08,931 --> 00:28:10,379 when you see that spoon? 374 00:28:13,379 --> 00:28:14,379 Swimming pool. 375 00:28:19,517 --> 00:28:20,586 The parties... 376 00:28:21,793 --> 00:28:22,862 pool... 377 00:28:23,655 --> 00:28:24,689 friends... 378 00:28:27,034 --> 00:28:29,517 Ben, Peter... 379 00:28:30,551 --> 00:28:31,551 David... 380 00:28:32,103 --> 00:28:33,103 Daddy... 381 00:28:34,344 --> 00:28:35,517 the girls. 382 00:28:37,344 --> 00:28:38,758 Pretty girls get picked. 383 00:28:40,931 --> 00:28:41,931 Me... 384 00:28:42,896 --> 00:28:44,000 Pick me. 385 00:28:46,551 --> 00:28:47,862 Who are the girls, Eleanor? 386 00:28:50,724 --> 00:28:52,965 Daughters, friends, 387 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,034 the wives. 388 00:29:01,137 --> 00:29:03,000 Could you pick that spoon up? 389 00:29:03,379 --> 00:29:04,379 Just... 390 00:29:05,103 --> 00:29:06,551 hold it, just for a moment. 391 00:29:21,482 --> 00:29:22,620 I... 392 00:29:26,517 --> 00:29:27,793 She fell in the pool. 393 00:29:31,551 --> 00:29:33,310 She fell in the pool. 394 00:29:34,724 --> 00:29:35,965 Who? 395 00:29:37,137 --> 00:29:38,413 We all got given drugs, 396 00:29:39,724 --> 00:29:41,344 things to take to relax us. 397 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,620 She was meant for my brother. 398 00:29:48,137 --> 00:29:49,206 Excuse me? 399 00:29:49,655 --> 00:29:51,241 He had her later, of course, 400 00:29:51,344 --> 00:29:53,724 but she was too strong-willed that day. 401 00:29:57,655 --> 00:29:58,793 Where's the pool? 402 00:30:02,655 --> 00:30:03,896 Alma mater. 403 00:30:06,758 --> 00:30:08,310 What does she mean, "Alma mater"? 404 00:30:09,655 --> 00:30:11,517 What happened, Eleanor? Can you tell me? 405 00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:15,241 She did it on purpose... 406 00:30:17,137 --> 00:30:18,620 tried to die. 407 00:30:18,724 --> 00:30:20,034 Could she swim? 408 00:30:22,172 --> 00:30:23,310 Everyone saw. 409 00:30:24,517 --> 00:30:26,793 It was awful. My father was... 410 00:30:28,758 --> 00:30:30,000 I'd never seen him like that. 411 00:30:32,655 --> 00:30:34,827 But Carl had been promised a girl. 412 00:30:36,655 --> 00:30:38,103 There had to be a girl... 413 00:30:39,206 --> 00:30:40,551 so why not me? 414 00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:43,482 Is this ethical? 415 00:30:44,793 --> 00:30:46,448 You mean, "Is it admissible?" 416 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,448 Then it began in earnest. 417 00:30:50,551 --> 00:30:52,724 Three knocks on my bedroom door for him. 418 00:30:54,034 --> 00:30:55,310 Two knocks for Carl. 419 00:30:58,137 --> 00:31:02,000 Stare at my ceiling for hours, 420 00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:04,620 and wonder... 421 00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:07,827 Could she even swim? 422 00:31:13,275 --> 00:31:14,620 My God. 423 00:31:25,655 --> 00:31:26,862 Can you swim? 424 00:31:42,655 --> 00:31:43,655 Are you all right? 425 00:31:44,482 --> 00:31:45,793 All right, that's enough. 426 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,793 Come on. Let's get some fresh air. 427 00:31:49,896 --> 00:31:50,965 All right. 428 00:31:51,068 --> 00:31:52,344 - Sorry. - You OK? 429 00:31:52,448 --> 00:31:55,172 - Yeah. - Have a seat. Sit down. 430 00:31:56,931 --> 00:31:58,241 That's it, take a nice breath. 431 00:32:00,758 --> 00:32:02,931 - OK? - Yeah. 432 00:32:03,034 --> 00:32:04,206 - Yeah. - Yeah? 433 00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:06,448 You stay here and wait for me to clock off work now. 434 00:32:06,551 --> 00:32:08,068 No, no, er... 435 00:32:08,172 --> 00:32:09,275 My doctor's appointment. 436 00:32:09,379 --> 00:32:11,448 I've got the results of that MRI. 437 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:15,310 Right, you go home, 438 00:32:15,413 --> 00:32:16,896 and you run yourself a nice bath, 439 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,413 and you just relax, 440 00:32:18,517 --> 00:32:20,758 and I'm gonna meet you there, OK? 441 00:32:20,862 --> 00:32:22,758 - OK. Yeah. - All right? 442 00:32:23,689 --> 00:32:25,000 Deep breaths, for me please. 443 00:32:25,103 --> 00:32:26,517 That's it. 444 00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:29,275 Right. 445 00:32:29,379 --> 00:32:30,862 OK? 446 00:32:30,965 --> 00:32:32,724 - No, no, no. - Hey, I got ya. I got ya. 447 00:33:12,586 --> 00:33:13,724 Rang the home about Rachel. 448 00:33:13,827 --> 00:33:15,044 They said that her file has been returned 449 00:33:15,068 --> 00:33:16,517 back to the management company. 450 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,758 And I've got you a meeting. 451 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:19,068 When? 452 00:33:19,655 --> 00:33:20,931 Now. 453 00:33:21,034 --> 00:33:22,137 Cheers, Mike. 454 00:33:28,275 --> 00:33:29,310 Thank you for seeing me 455 00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:30,655 at such short notice. 456 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:32,931 No problem at all. Have a seat. 457 00:33:33,034 --> 00:33:34,034 Thank you. 458 00:33:34,137 --> 00:33:36,034 Now, then, can I offer you 459 00:33:36,137 --> 00:33:37,586 a cup of tea? Coffee? 460 00:33:37,689 --> 00:33:38,689 No, I'm fine, thanks. 461 00:33:39,413 --> 00:33:40,965 Well, that's a shame. 462 00:33:41,068 --> 00:33:43,620 I've been told I make a rather excellent brew. 463 00:33:44,206 --> 00:33:45,931 Not a skill to be underestimated. 464 00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:47,793 Well, truth be told, 465 00:33:47,896 --> 00:33:49,103 my wife took pity on me. 466 00:33:49,965 --> 00:33:51,827 When she saw what I'd been serving up, 467 00:33:52,793 --> 00:33:54,103 she took me in hand. 468 00:33:55,758 --> 00:33:57,448 Now, er, just so I get this straight, 469 00:33:57,551 --> 00:33:59,275 er, one of my home managers rang earlier. 470 00:33:59,379 --> 00:34:00,793 She said you wanted to inquire 471 00:34:00,896 --> 00:34:04,068 about some records for a Rachel... 472 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:05,172 - Fisher. - Fisher. 473 00:34:05,793 --> 00:34:06,793 Yes. Yes. 474 00:34:06,896 --> 00:34:08,113 We've been looking into the deaths 475 00:34:08,137 --> 00:34:11,724 of two former residents of Ledford House. 476 00:34:11,827 --> 00:34:13,793 Which I believe you manage. 477 00:34:15,241 --> 00:34:16,793 Yeah, we do manage Ledford, yeah. 478 00:34:17,896 --> 00:34:20,724 Obviously, we'll help you with your inquiries any way we can. 479 00:34:21,931 --> 00:34:22,971 How much do you have to do 480 00:34:23,068 --> 00:34:24,965 with the day-to-day running of Ledford House? 481 00:34:25,068 --> 00:34:27,862 Do you know, I must confess, I... 482 00:34:27,965 --> 00:34:30,517 I've never actually been to Ledford. 483 00:34:31,241 --> 00:34:32,965 We manage quite a number of properties, 484 00:34:33,068 --> 00:34:35,000 businesses, facilities in the area. 485 00:34:36,137 --> 00:34:37,424 So, a missing child wouldn't be enough 486 00:34:37,448 --> 00:34:38,655 to provoke you to visit? 487 00:34:39,758 --> 00:34:42,206 Yeah, I hear how it sounds. 488 00:34:42,758 --> 00:34:45,034 And... and, you're right to be outraged. 489 00:34:45,137 --> 00:34:46,241 Part of my work 490 00:34:46,344 --> 00:34:49,103 in the management of homes such as Ledford 491 00:34:49,206 --> 00:34:52,103 is an attempt to transform the way they've been run. 492 00:34:52,206 --> 00:34:53,482 It's a sorry state of affairs, 493 00:34:53,586 --> 00:34:55,466 but the truth is that only two missing children, 494 00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:57,206 decades apart from the same home, 495 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:59,862 is seen in the British care system 496 00:34:59,965 --> 00:35:01,448 as a resounding success. 497 00:35:03,103 --> 00:35:04,482 - "Only." - I know. 498 00:35:05,827 --> 00:35:07,482 I've been looking at the figures. 499 00:35:07,586 --> 00:35:08,827 They're pretty disheartening. 500 00:35:08,931 --> 00:35:10,793 One in ten children in the care system 501 00:35:10,896 --> 00:35:12,458 will be reported missing at any one time, 502 00:35:12,482 --> 00:35:14,044 but that... that's still a hypothetical, 503 00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:15,068 one in ten. 504 00:35:15,137 --> 00:35:19,344 Last year, the actual figure was 12,738. 505 00:35:19,448 --> 00:35:21,068 That's real children. 506 00:35:21,965 --> 00:35:24,137 Now, that's just the data on the ones reported missing. 507 00:35:25,068 --> 00:35:29,000 These are kids as young as seven, eight. 508 00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:31,666 Sometimes they're runaways. 509 00:35:31,724 --> 00:35:32,758 Yeah, sometimes. 510 00:35:32,862 --> 00:35:34,113 But sometimes they're trafficked, 511 00:35:34,137 --> 00:35:35,976 or they're addicted to drugs before their tenth birthdays, 512 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 or they attempt suicide. 513 00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:38,103 We simply don't know, 514 00:35:38,206 --> 00:35:39,734 because the government don't want to look. 515 00:35:39,758 --> 00:35:41,038 And while a single missing child 516 00:35:41,068 --> 00:35:43,172 is devastating, unacceptable, 517 00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:44,793 two in ten years, 518 00:35:44,896 --> 00:35:46,336 that's considered pretty good going. 519 00:35:49,931 --> 00:35:51,137 Anyway... 520 00:35:52,517 --> 00:35:55,275 It was information on Rachel Fisher you wanted. 521 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000 Yes, please. 522 00:35:57,103 --> 00:35:59,000 Where are we? Er... Here we are. 523 00:36:00,655 --> 00:36:03,551 So, her file came back to us when we reported her missing. 524 00:36:05,275 --> 00:36:06,413 After she disappeared, 525 00:36:06,517 --> 00:36:08,597 - the police were contacted... - They were contacted? 526 00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:10,034 Yeah, of course. 527 00:36:10,137 --> 00:36:12,103 But unfortunately, no one ever followed up. 528 00:36:25,172 --> 00:36:26,344 You'll find all the details, 529 00:36:26,448 --> 00:36:29,000 including the incident reference number, in that file. 530 00:36:48,137 --> 00:36:49,655 Thank you for your time. 531 00:36:49,758 --> 00:36:51,493 Well, er, look, if there's anything else you need, 532 00:36:51,517 --> 00:36:52,631 please don't hesitate to ask. 533 00:36:52,655 --> 00:36:54,172 We're... we're always here. 534 00:36:54,275 --> 00:36:56,655 Have you met my wife? Catherine, come say hello. 535 00:36:57,551 --> 00:36:58,758 Lovely to meet you. 536 00:36:58,862 --> 00:37:01,182 It's lovely to meet you, too. And thank, thank you for this. 537 00:37:01,206 --> 00:37:02,206 - Yeah. - Thank you. 538 00:37:05,241 --> 00:37:06,482 And, thank... thank you. 539 00:37:18,344 --> 00:37:19,344 Jeanette? 540 00:37:19,448 --> 00:37:21,448 Right. Just spoke to Piers Stirling. 541 00:37:21,551 --> 00:37:24,344 He told me they reported Rachel missing at the time. 542 00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,724 They've given me a folder with the incident ref and everything. 543 00:37:28,655 --> 00:37:31,015 He's saying that no one from the police ever followed it up. 544 00:37:31,103 --> 00:37:32,241 What? 545 00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,965 We just look like morons, because we are fucking morons. 546 00:37:35,896 --> 00:37:36,931 You don't think... 547 00:37:37,344 --> 00:37:39,464 They reached out to us at the time and we did nothin'. 548 00:37:40,482 --> 00:37:41,724 That's not good. 549 00:37:41,827 --> 00:37:42,907 No, I'm on my way back now. 550 00:37:42,931 --> 00:37:44,389 See if I can salvage any of this mess. 551 00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:47,068 Listen, there's something that I need from you first. 552 00:37:47,551 --> 00:37:48,551 Why? What is it? 553 00:37:48,655 --> 00:37:50,620 Could you meet me at the emergency mortuary? 554 00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:53,068 It's important. 555 00:37:53,655 --> 00:37:55,034 Yeah, sure. 556 00:37:55,137 --> 00:37:56,257 - Thanks. - See you in a bit. 557 00:38:02,344 --> 00:38:04,344 Bollocks! 558 00:40:26,241 --> 00:40:28,000 Can you swim? 559 00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,482 Mike. 560 00:40:46,517 --> 00:40:48,000 Jamal Ismael. 561 00:40:52,206 --> 00:40:53,482 Hadi Rafiq. 562 00:40:57,172 --> 00:40:58,896 Abib Tesfaye. 563 00:41:02,172 --> 00:41:03,344 Nam Nguyen. 564 00:41:05,758 --> 00:41:06,862 Zalmay Kahn. 565 00:41:10,689 --> 00:41:12,068 And Rachel Fisher. 566 00:41:14,482 --> 00:41:17,310 I... I know, er, we're under no legal obligation 567 00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:18,620 to inform their families. 568 00:41:18,724 --> 00:41:20,413 I get it, I do. 569 00:41:21,655 --> 00:41:24,172 I just... I feel strongly about this. 570 00:41:24,275 --> 00:41:26,482 Just because they're not British citizens, 571 00:41:26,586 --> 00:41:27,986 or they've been lost in the system, 572 00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:30,586 it doesn't mean we can forget about them. 573 00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:35,379 We can follow the case and do the right thing. 574 00:41:38,241 --> 00:41:39,551 I agree, Mike. 575 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,310 You've done them proud. 576 00:41:46,103 --> 00:41:47,344 Thanks, Eva. 577 00:41:48,068 --> 00:41:49,241 Thanks, everyone. 578 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,000 What is it? 579 00:42:07,379 --> 00:42:10,103 I want to ask 580 00:42:11,551 --> 00:42:13,206 what the psychiatrist was doing 581 00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:15,103 in the mortuary the other night. 582 00:42:15,655 --> 00:42:17,482 - At the mortuary? - At the mortuary. 583 00:42:18,103 --> 00:42:19,448 How come? 584 00:42:22,896 --> 00:42:24,103 And you're sure it was her? 585 00:42:24,206 --> 00:42:25,517 Yeah, I'm positive. 586 00:42:27,034 --> 00:42:28,517 I know that you're working together. 587 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:29,862 Yeah? 588 00:42:30,551 --> 00:42:33,379 Or whatever unorthodox thing it is that you're doing. 589 00:42:35,931 --> 00:42:40,517 But that was a huge breach of security on my part. 590 00:42:41,586 --> 00:42:44,172 She does not have clearance to be there alone. 591 00:42:44,551 --> 00:42:46,379 None of you do. 592 00:42:50,862 --> 00:42:52,206 Of course, mate. 593 00:42:53,896 --> 00:42:56,551 I'm really sorry that happened, OK? 594 00:42:56,655 --> 00:42:57,793 I'll talk to her. 595 00:42:58,137 --> 00:42:59,586 See that you do. 596 00:43:05,758 --> 00:43:09,724 And if you look here, see this little area right here? 597 00:43:09,827 --> 00:43:11,551 Hippocampus. 598 00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:14,517 So, what we might expect to see here 599 00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:16,068 in someone with your symptoms 600 00:43:16,172 --> 00:43:19,931 would be white spots or signs of atrophy, 601 00:43:20,034 --> 00:43:22,586 particularly hippocampal atrophy, 602 00:43:22,689 --> 00:43:23,896 like shrinkage. 603 00:43:24,344 --> 00:43:28,034 But this, as you can see, is entirely normal. 604 00:43:28,758 --> 00:43:31,448 Congratulations, you're a perfect specimen. 605 00:43:32,655 --> 00:43:34,000 Excuse me a moment. 606 00:43:44,551 --> 00:43:45,586 You OK? 607 00:43:47,379 --> 00:43:48,379 I'm fine. 608 00:43:51,724 --> 00:43:53,551 I've been meaning to ask you... 609 00:43:54,827 --> 00:43:56,787 How come you were at the mortuary on Monday night? 610 00:43:57,965 --> 00:43:59,000 I wasn't. 611 00:44:00,689 --> 00:44:01,827 Eva said she saw you there. 612 00:44:03,793 --> 00:44:05,113 But why on earth would I be in a mortuary 613 00:44:05,137 --> 00:44:06,793 on a Monday night? 614 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,413 She must have you confused, then. 615 00:44:10,103 --> 00:44:11,448 - I think she must. - Yeah. 616 00:44:13,413 --> 00:44:15,068 Do you wanna stay at mine tonight? 617 00:44:15,172 --> 00:44:16,413 I wish. 618 00:44:17,379 --> 00:44:19,000 Believe it or not, I should go 619 00:44:19,103 --> 00:44:21,931 because my dad'll be wondering where I am. 620 00:44:22,034 --> 00:44:23,827 Yeah. 47. 621 00:44:23,931 --> 00:44:24,931 Living with my dad. 622 00:44:25,034 --> 00:44:27,172 It's fucking bleak. 623 00:44:28,896 --> 00:44:30,616 OK, I'm going to leave the door on the latch 624 00:44:30,689 --> 00:44:31,803 in case you change your mind. 625 00:44:31,827 --> 00:44:34,689 I'll think about it. Thank you. 626 00:44:38,551 --> 00:44:39,655 You just rest tonight. 627 00:44:39,758 --> 00:44:41,310 OK. 628 00:47:00,137 --> 00:47:04,344 Thought you might change your mind. 629 00:47:18,275 --> 00:47:19,310 Come downstairs, please. 630 00:47:20,724 --> 00:47:22,000 Tea's ready. 631 00:47:23,172 --> 00:47:24,275 We need to talk.42227

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