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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,740 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome 2 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:08,060 to the Duke Cafe. 3 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:15,420 When you wake up in the morning and the world is 4 00:00:15,420 --> 00:00:16,720 going round, 5 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:24,060 hide from drinking King Kong and 6 00:00:24,060 --> 00:00:28,580 your troubles won't come down. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:37,900 The one you love has left you cannot nowhere 8 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:40,520 be found. 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:50,480 You may hold up your head, Shaq, but 10 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:56,200 your heart is on the ground. 11 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,580 King Kong. 12 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:04,519 King Kong. 13 00:01:05,540 --> 00:01:11,900 Never get high on King Kong. 14 00:01:15,340 --> 00:01:17,020 Ding dong. 15 00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:19,860 Ding dong. 16 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,620 So I was really looking only for this, that I couldn't get here today. 17 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,840 And now I have so many white flowers and I'm trying to see if there is something 18 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,440 with one color that would be so great in the middle of all that green and white. 19 00:01:39,780 --> 00:01:40,780 Okay. 20 00:02:02,060 --> 00:02:04,380 Just south of Little Tokyo. 21 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:07,140 Traction Avenue. 22 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,860 Still very attractive street of downtown. 23 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:17,260 Just before the river. 24 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:21,700 And you used to have a business there? 25 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,060 I mean sure. 26 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,280 805 Traction. 27 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:30,580 And it seemed everybody moved out, but everybody moved back. 28 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:32,100 Except that. 29 00:02:32,460 --> 00:02:34,320 So we just go visit. 30 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:39,180 And what business were you doing there? 31 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:43,240 The rag business. 32 00:02:44,260 --> 00:02:46,880 The clothing. 33 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:50,760 And how long were you there? 34 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,360 Ten years. 35 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,000 So we had a big business. 36 00:03:00,650 --> 00:03:04,250 It was like a big dressing table in the middle and we had our shipping and we 37 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:08,990 had a big disco ball and there was always disco music. 38 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:15,990 Yeah. Yeah. And then that upstairs was the journey back and it was boxes, 39 00:03:16,010 --> 00:03:18,270 of course, but also very big. 40 00:03:20,770 --> 00:03:26,250 It's a wonderful house because the toilet, none of the front... 41 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:28,950 Hey. Yeah. 42 00:03:33,070 --> 00:03:36,010 When college got to be 45, 43 00:03:36,970 --> 00:03:42,290 then we moved. 44 00:03:42,690 --> 00:03:45,930 Business was sick, so I bought a house. 45 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:51,730 But the cafeteria that was started was still here. 46 00:03:52,290 --> 00:03:57,930 So the thing that happened is because cafeteria was fine, helped me to have 47 00:03:57,930 --> 00:03:59,070 enough of it. 48 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,340 The Armando story. 49 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,280 And then Rick was starting to do his little marvelous thing. 50 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,420 One by one in a little corner. 51 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:15,520 So you met Rick when you were here? 52 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:18,279 I had him as a pattern maker. 53 00:04:18,579 --> 00:04:19,579 That's the way we met. 54 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:25,320 My God, that's why it took a long time to entangle all those stories. 55 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 We started like... 56 00:04:30,490 --> 00:04:33,570 Slowly, like, you know, I was going to an opening. 57 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:35,190 He was going with me. 58 00:04:36,670 --> 00:04:40,190 I was married with Richard. We were planning to do a movie. He was not 59 00:04:40,190 --> 00:04:41,190 there. 60 00:04:42,490 --> 00:04:48,690 Then I had to go to France. So I was going, and then I said, oh, I've not 61 00:04:48,690 --> 00:04:51,410 been in Paris. You know, I've been for one day. 62 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:56,070 Why don't we meet there to look at some fabric and stuff? 63 00:04:56,370 --> 00:04:58,050 So one night... 64 00:04:59,740 --> 00:05:04,360 I'm ready to go out, and then there is a bang, bang on the door. I open the door, 65 00:05:04,380 --> 00:05:10,160 there is like drunk, like ten Polish guys, and sort of falling on the floor, 66 00:05:10,220 --> 00:05:15,400 and saying, you have a crush on me, and I have a crush on you. 67 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:20,820 So I didn't go out, spent the night to explain to him how wrong all that was, 68 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,160 and I think the next day I was going to New York, and he was going back to L.A. 69 00:05:36,660 --> 00:05:40,020 I don't have photographs of the show. 70 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:41,280 There is. 71 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,160 There's a video. 72 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,060 I'd love to see the video. 73 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,080 The show that was here? 74 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,860 No. The show in New York. The show in New York. 75 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,160 Oh, there's a couple of things. 76 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Because we used to have like a... Oh, here they are. 77 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,940 We're going to look at the fashion show. 78 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,920 You want to see the one with Andre the Untally? 79 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,180 Who's Andre the Untally? That's the funnier one. 80 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,220 Yeah, that one's better. 81 00:06:12,660 --> 00:06:14,140 Yeah, that's what we did. 82 00:06:44,180 --> 00:06:45,700 She's doing her little documentary. 83 00:06:46,060 --> 00:06:49,080 Yeah. It's a lifelong thing, don't worry. You won't sit till we're 70. 84 00:06:50,620 --> 00:06:51,620 Bye. 85 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,380 No, I mean, today and tomorrow. 86 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:45,460 They're in the office on Saturday. Oh, I see. 87 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:55,180 Yeah, 88 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:04,080 I got it, but I did not read it. But I have to send it to you today. 89 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:11,680 Okay, but what do I have to do? I have to do a check for $2,500 today? 90 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:15,780 Sending a messenger today. 91 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:20,920 I 92 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:30,760 was 93 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,020 at Café des Artistes, as you know. 94 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,700 And then Rick... 95 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:44,059 who had a little design studio downtown, found a place just across the 96 00:08:44,059 --> 00:08:47,640 street where we still are. At that time, it was only one store, another three 97 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,640 store we have. 98 00:08:49,540 --> 00:08:56,540 And I was seeing, like, that little shack. It was all parking, but there was 99 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:57,840 a little shack in the front. 100 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,920 And I knew the landlord, they were coming for lunch at Café des Artistes. 101 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:08,480 So one time I thought, We'd like to do a party there. 102 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:16,480 So I went to see them, and I said, I want to rent this, destroy an empty 103 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,560 place for 10 years to do a party. 104 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:25,560 Because they normally say, why don't you move your restaurant? 105 00:10:36,650 --> 00:10:42,970 seeing a whole old-fashioned way, and it's still 106 00:10:42,970 --> 00:10:47,850 nice to see everybody we love coming here and having a good time. 107 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:53,070 No, but it is kind of that thing where people come and they create a little 108 00:10:53,070 --> 00:10:57,290 world, and then they break camp and they leave. 109 00:10:57,630 --> 00:11:02,170 Yeah, like nomads. I don't think in any other country, I mean, any other city 110 00:11:02,170 --> 00:11:04,310 I've ever been to, it's been quite so much. 111 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,100 If it happens, it's like overnight. 112 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,920 I get this situation here. But it's the aesthetic of the city. Yeah. It's a main 113 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:18,700 chance for people to come here to, you know, throw their hat in the ring, see 114 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:19,700 what happens, you know. 115 00:11:20,140 --> 00:11:26,280 Yeah. They leave in glory or they leave in shame. It's a tough town. 116 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,640 All right, Peter, the doorman extraordinaire. 117 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:40,620 Everybody's a little eccentric, I think, because of the name. 118 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,720 You know, they do a bit too. 119 00:11:44,650 --> 00:11:47,930 I hear Michelle describing people as schizophrenic a lot. 120 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:51,210 She doesn't mean it in any kind of derogatory way. 121 00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:56,290 You know, it's just human nature that we all have two sides. This is the heart of 122 00:11:56,290 --> 00:11:57,290 Hollywood, basically. 123 00:11:58,030 --> 00:12:02,890 I've seen everybody at some point in the last year or so. I've seen pretty much 124 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:09,310 every major star of our time here. I'm sure there's nothing else like it in the 125 00:12:09,310 --> 00:12:10,310 rest of the world. 126 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,500 Michelle, I think, is a genius. 127 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:24,660 I mean, I've never had the honor to be around her and see her at work. The fact 128 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:29,520 that she considers this place a theater, more so than a business, is really, and 129 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,860 that it's successful on that premise. It's astounding that it could go on this 130 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:39,200 long, this show, and it shows no sign of stopping. 131 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:43,360 Rick is cool. He's just a bit of a mystery to me. I don't really know him 132 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,079 too well. 133 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,080 So where's Rick? 134 00:12:45,260 --> 00:12:46,260 In the studio. 135 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,940 Well, he's not answering the door. 136 00:13:02,060 --> 00:13:05,480 So you've achieved a lot in your life. When you come here, do you feel that 137 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,220 there's a community here that you fit into at this restaurant? 138 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Kind of intellectual? 139 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:12,660 Well, 140 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,360 my name is Kimbra. I live in New York City, but I'm here quite often. Just did 141 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:27,560 a Halloween show with Lou Reed and the real Karen Black. 142 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,000 And we did a tribute to Edgar Allan Poe. 143 00:13:33,340 --> 00:13:38,380 When I first met Rick Owens a few years ago, he came to a show that I did. 144 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,620 And then I was in one of his fashion shows in New York. 145 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:49,940 It was a morning fashion show, and it was like breakfast with the voluptuous 146 00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:50,940 horror of Karen Black. 147 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:55,980 And I got to stand on a stage, and he had big piles of clothes. 148 00:13:56,780 --> 00:14:00,460 And I just, you know, continually changed outfits. 149 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:04,220 And I was in my monster costume that day. 150 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,160 We've been friends since. 151 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,780 I saw the last show in New York. It was really, utterly beautiful. 152 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:18,020 And I thought that the last show reminded me of a cross between the bride 153 00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:20,580 of Frankenthal and Aubrey Beardsley. 154 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,920 I think the atmosphere is, like, ancient here. 155 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,520 And then also there is the group of people that understand from all over the 156 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,400 world, international, that understand that this is a very unusual environment. 157 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,060 You have old, you have new, you have, you know. 158 00:14:48,580 --> 00:14:54,740 the outside, the inside, the garden, the California vibe, 159 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,100 but also the Capri vibe. 160 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:04,060 I mean, you know, you have people from all over the world who just look at the 161 00:15:04,060 --> 00:15:09,000 architectural elements that are here. 162 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Is that right? Because we came here very early and they had that house was like 163 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,560 all blocked off. 164 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,920 Somebody was still living in that house. Yeah. 165 00:15:19,140 --> 00:15:24,140 And they... No, they carted the house from downtown. So he bought this 166 00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:27,280 downtown. Oh, yeah. And carted it on a truck. 167 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,180 This whole craftsman house? And just stuck it here in the middle of... Stuck 168 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:33,600 it in the middle of this signing lot, you know? 169 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:40,300 Yeah. I was so confident that everything would be happening 170 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:42,280 exactly the way I wanted to. 171 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,040 And it started this way because to... 172 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:49,450 Plant trees in the parking lot is sort of easy. 173 00:15:50,830 --> 00:15:54,690 And building walls is easy, and starting something is easy. 174 00:15:54,950 --> 00:16:01,910 Then that house that was down the street became for sale. That was another 175 00:16:01,910 --> 00:16:05,590 easy thing. It started to be easy with the city. 176 00:16:05,850 --> 00:16:08,870 Some people don't understand it, why somebody wants to move it. 177 00:16:09,370 --> 00:16:14,910 Oh, you know, I was not really looking for it. It just became for sale down the 178 00:16:14,910 --> 00:16:17,240 street. It was 1902. 179 00:16:18,220 --> 00:16:22,260 And behind this house, it was not a garage, it was a table. 180 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:28,040 And how did you manage to wheel it over? It must have been quite a... Oh, you 181 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,620 know, that was an easy part. 182 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,940 It's very easy to move a house. The car coming is like changing wheels on your 183 00:16:35,940 --> 00:16:42,760 car. What took a long time was to convince building and safety that there 184 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,640 was a reason to move that house 185 00:16:45,660 --> 00:16:51,000 They looked at it like somebody old. They only believe in Formica and new 186 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 whatever. 187 00:17:01,580 --> 00:17:02,580 Hey. 188 00:17:22,010 --> 00:17:23,589 Carla, you look wonderful. 189 00:17:24,349 --> 00:17:25,530 Hi, how are you? 190 00:17:26,010 --> 00:17:26,868 Is your mom here? 191 00:17:26,869 --> 00:17:28,170 Yes, she's right on the patio. 192 00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:31,650 What? What did you say? 193 00:17:35,370 --> 00:17:36,370 So, 194 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:42,010 Michelle and I, we think that if we have to give up our young people, we really 195 00:17:42,010 --> 00:17:43,370 love the Japanese students. 196 00:18:05,010 --> 00:18:11,870 This weekend is perhaps even going to change more what life is about 197 00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:16,390 because if they really want to do A house with them. Yeah. 198 00:18:17,290 --> 00:18:23,170 Perhaps they are going to be more like LMVH when they offer him like a house or 199 00:18:23,170 --> 00:18:29,030 something, meaning like he has to live in Europe most of the time. Yeah. 200 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:33,610 In which case, I don't know what I'm going to do. 201 00:18:33,890 --> 00:18:35,550 Well, no, we don't want this to happen. 202 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:38,690 I mean, it's wonderful for him. 203 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,920 Yeah. But I don't know. I don't want to change. 204 00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:49,800 It's not like I would go and live in Europe and do what. 205 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,780 I could go, like, in a few years if I thought about doing something. 206 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:01,240 But otherwise, I'm so stuck here. I've been here. I did not move my feet from 207 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,680 last five months. 208 00:19:03,220 --> 00:19:04,220 Yeah. 209 00:19:04,380 --> 00:19:07,480 We've spun such a marvelous little web. 210 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:29,260 I think the thing with your mother is that she likes to create things and then 211 00:19:29,260 --> 00:19:33,000 just kind of create something else. Right, exactly. 212 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:34,900 And I think it's time. 213 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,820 Yeah, and so do I. I mean, she's got to the point now that she's become a cage, 214 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:45,760 really. And it's repetitive and it's not the same kind of creativity involved. It 215 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,200 really is. I mean, obviously, people do it. 216 00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:52,820 the whole life and make it wonderful. But she's been, you know, she's done so 217 00:19:52,820 --> 00:19:58,240 many things, you know, being a lawyer, striptease, making clothes, running a 218 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,540 restaurant, wanting to produce movies. 219 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,960 Yeah. 220 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:03,460 So it's a way out. 221 00:20:03,740 --> 00:20:08,780 Yeah, we can't say one thing about her, and that is that she's gone. 222 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:12,880 Very good. 223 00:20:55,580 --> 00:21:01,420 I think the main purpose was to be the seat of socialism during Mitterrand. 224 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,340 Oh, it's quite a big meeting room sort of place. 225 00:21:04,660 --> 00:21:07,740 Yeah, it's about five stories, I believe. 226 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,600 And they all have, like, large rooms and bathrooms. So it's five stories that 227 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,880 needs to be renovated. Yeah. Oh, my God. 228 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:15,140 And the stairs. 229 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:16,880 Oh, my God. But at least there's an elevator. 230 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,560 It seems to be like she's undertaking exactly what she did with the cafe, the 231 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,700 empty parking lot. 232 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,740 Mm-hmm. And then all these opponents. 233 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,620 And, you know, just this... And then this huge kind of... 234 00:21:29,310 --> 00:21:31,210 fantasy of bringing this house. 235 00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:36,890 It's always overcoming momentous odds all the time. The challenge of creating 236 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:37,890 something. 237 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:44,730 Once it's already created, then she gets bored. 238 00:21:45,330 --> 00:21:46,870 She doesn't like to maintain. 239 00:21:56,490 --> 00:22:02,630 Even if the light's so hot here, is that the way it is? I love it so much. And 240 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:05,450 I'm sure that will happen if we stay a little longer. 241 00:22:05,810 --> 00:22:10,170 We'll stick somebody who has a little dog just on an English sign, and you 242 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:13,650 will see the dog eating on the plate of that person. 243 00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:15,490 And nobody will say anything. 244 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:20,550 But if you answer your cell phone, they will tell you to go outside. 245 00:22:21,250 --> 00:22:25,630 And the other day, there were some Americans next to us, and... 246 00:22:26,989 --> 00:22:31,070 They told me as soon as they saw I was putting the cigarette on the table that 247 00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:35,650 they had medicine on the table and they had asthma and nobody could smoke 248 00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:36,650 around. 249 00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:41,890 So I tried to move a little far away and the waiter saw that and said, what are 250 00:22:41,890 --> 00:22:44,710 you doing? I said, well, people are disturbed by the smoking. 251 00:22:46,030 --> 00:22:50,530 And they went on a rage, telling them they could not say that to me because I 252 00:22:50,530 --> 00:22:53,830 was an obituary and this was still a smoking restaurant. 253 00:22:54,110 --> 00:22:58,150 And there was nothing they can do about it. And they should have been upstairs. 254 00:22:58,490 --> 00:23:02,950 And the woman was really bad and showing her medicine. 255 00:23:03,650 --> 00:23:07,090 It was, that's why I like clips. 256 00:23:08,010 --> 00:23:12,590 It's like they have their homes and they are not other people's homes. 257 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,260 We're trying to get also that little collection together of the fur. 258 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:29,120 That will be the first one on the Reco and new Palais Royal label and not a 259 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,120 Revillon collection. 260 00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:31,780 Oh, so it's in Palais Royal. 261 00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:38,700 That's where he found the name when we said, oh, enough of this thing, but how 262 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:39,700 can we do anything? 263 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,080 with the address, you know, like it was... Yeah, perfect, yeah. 264 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Yeah, 265 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:50,360 yeah. So it was so perfect, then we said, okay, we do that. 266 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Yeah. 267 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:07,660 There is the most incredible complexity 268 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,920 incredible, incredibly strict austerity that Rick achieves in his clothes. 269 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:25,440 The detail is quite extraordinary, I mean, and sort of invisible. 270 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,600 I mean, in the finished product, it is mysterious. 271 00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:35,640 But yeah, so in fact, people always write about him to say that he's like 272 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,020 the grunge guy because he's sort of grunge and chic at the same time. 273 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:47,020 But what he does is use, especially in the fur, like very old techniques that 274 00:24:47,020 --> 00:24:51,900 were made like to save some of the price of the skin, you know, like that thing 275 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,640 that is called allongé. 276 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:58,420 I don't know if I can show you something. And it's what she's working 277 00:24:58,420 --> 00:24:59,420 on now. 278 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,700 So, you know, you cut a skin in those little pieces and then you put it back 279 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:11,940 together. So instead of having like a mink that is like this, the way it comes 280 00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:14,740 naturally, everything has been shot. 281 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,100 And instead of the sweat, you have a very long mink that is also less 282 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:26,060 wider. And then you get this kind of effect. 283 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,080 In fact, even nicer from the inside when you can see the craft of that. 284 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:38,020 We did it in different ways so it could still have body and like it could still 285 00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:38,819 hold a shape. 286 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:44,960 Now here it's super light and there's that structure in it that it's almost 287 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,800 kind of like hoop skirts because there's a stiffness in it, like a little bit of 288 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,620 stiffness gives it body so it kind of does stick out in good ways. 289 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920 And he is the king of knowing all the eight paths. 290 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:04,860 You know, and he cannot take 291 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:10,840 whatever it is to be covered in fur. It's like saving a little piece. 292 00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:13,480 So you think this is a fantastic brush? 293 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:18,240 Yes. That would be there. And where is the pen thing? 294 00:26:19,690 --> 00:26:23,270 La petite boîte de pain. La petite boîte, mais elle doit être par là, sur 295 00:26:23,270 --> 00:26:24,270 le manteau. Ah oui. 296 00:26:24,930 --> 00:26:28,310 Danny, you have a little carton box. Danny, with two desks. 297 00:26:28,810 --> 00:26:32,450 Vous n'avez pas vos... des trucs dans les jaquettes aujourd'hui? 298 00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:37,090 Ah, non, j'ai juste une petite peau de lapin, là. Oui, bah, faites-moi la 299 00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:38,090 peinture. Ah. 300 00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:40,650 C'est pas la plus belle. 301 00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:42,390 Yeah, it won't be. 302 00:26:43,690 --> 00:26:46,950 But so at the same time, you know, we have been doing this. 303 00:26:47,530 --> 00:26:53,570 Because there is this company here that is called Le Marier, that have all those 304 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:55,990 old feathers, and only one they have left. 305 00:26:56,550 --> 00:27:02,810 Because what Rick did is, first they had to dye those feathers to give a little 306 00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:06,270 more dust, and they are naturally, because they are a little more white. 307 00:27:07,850 --> 00:27:12,290 And then they glued three together to make them longer, because those ostrich 308 00:27:12,290 --> 00:27:13,650 feathers, they are not that long. 309 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:18,650 So they had to tie them, and it was at their window you could have a screen, 310 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:25,250 and you could see, like, all those dust feathers glued and dyed, hanging by the 311 00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:26,250 window. 312 00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:33,790 And then they were putting them, like, by hand, but they sort of got tired, so 313 00:27:33,790 --> 00:27:35,250 they did not build up enough. 314 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,020 So Rick had to send it to his mother that she'd do that fabulous... In 315 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:46,100 Porterville, you know, she... Yeah? In Porterville, that is next to 316 00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:49,220 Bakersfield, where Rick is from. Oh, she's up there. 317 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:53,460 She's up there. How fascinating, really. What a lovely idea of her doing that 318 00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:54,399 there. 319 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,060 But, you know, she is the one where I've always been showing that. Yeah. That's 320 00:27:59,060 --> 00:28:00,060 why Rick... 321 00:28:10,459 --> 00:28:13,940 Nick seems to get purer and purer. 322 00:28:14,140 --> 00:28:20,080 It's like he has this kind of, you know, incredible strictness or 323 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,300 discipline. And he loves, you know... 324 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,860 I sort of feel like he is, and I'm asking this as a question, I'm not 325 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:28,779 making a statement. 326 00:28:28,780 --> 00:28:34,660 I feel that he has this incredible kind of purist thing where he's always 327 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:41,140 constantly going to the purer, purer line. Like Mies van der Rohe or Louis 328 00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:47,420 Kahn or any of those architects, going like that. And you come in and kind of 329 00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:51,920 provide the sensual, the further, more flamboyant... 330 00:28:52,350 --> 00:28:58,950 Yeah, I think, I feel like you say that he's getting pure. What I say 331 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:04,130 is, like, he's really on top. I see now. 332 00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:11,090 He's on top because he's, like, secure and not too secure. I mean, he knows 333 00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:14,990 what he does, but he also thinks, like, how he fits. 334 00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:35,700 Rick is always, you know, he gets up, he works, he goes to the gym, he eats, he 335 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,880 takes his nap, he gets up, he works, he goes to eat again, and then he goes to 336 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,880 bed. 337 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,040 That's his life. 338 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,600 So he doesn't really travel much outside of like a half an hour radio? 339 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,320 Yeah, basically. 340 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:49,720 I mean, you know, and then every so often he has to go to Italy and he's 341 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,720 there for a while. 342 00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:55,320 And then, you know, but even there he keeps a very similar routine. 343 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,060 Because they have a gym. Even though it's in the tiny village of Concordia, 344 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,180 there is a gym in the hotel. 345 00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:08,560 I think he had another background. 346 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:10,940 He would have been an architect. 347 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,100 And I think it's coming slowly to this. 348 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,840 You know, like, it's kind of just... 349 00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:28,550 On the other side of him, he's very humble and thinking that I have to make 350 00:31:28,550 --> 00:31:34,210 a living and it's what I can do. He does not like to always jump to something, 351 00:31:34,290 --> 00:31:35,770 but I know he's going this direction. 352 00:31:39,850 --> 00:31:44,370 You can live with anybody if you have the same aesthetic values. 353 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,620 But, you know, even if you don't have the same political values, the moral 354 00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:53,440 values and everything, you cannot deal with it. But if you don't have the same 355 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,460 aesthetic values, it's impossible to be, like, free-talking. You know, I say, 356 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,760 this is great, so I know what it means. 357 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,740 I think it goes back and forth, and I'm the one who reports things. 358 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,420 have no lining that everything is dragging on the floor because he had 359 00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:23,780 when he started first because he was so young imagine now when i think when i 360 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:29,960 started to be with him he was carlos age now and lucia's age and it's only now 361 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,660 that i feel like wow 362 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:41,020 i 363 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:47,670 don't have the craft of the salmon like somebody who bring a mood or i think 364 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:53,230 we collaborate well and of course on my part it's a little more intensive 365 00:32:53,230 --> 00:33:00,110 because it will be uh at the same time very sensitive because 366 00:33:00,110 --> 00:33:04,490 that would be the one to say about all this world the way it is it has to 367 00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:11,330 replace the caliber and finding the thing we are finding a very 368 00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:16,940 great balance together but it's Yeah, you know, sometimes a little thing make 369 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:17,799 it up. 370 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,000 Like the fact that we came here and then we have those Italian partners and, you 371 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,740 know, everybody will say something. So then, you know, balance, we have to say, 372 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,980 like, who is doing what. 373 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:35,220 But we always talk about it. Sometimes I can be sort of loud about it. Of 374 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:37,700 course, now this is that. 375 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:41,460 But we are very... 376 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,380 We express it a lot. 377 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,980 Well, on Earth, could you believe that this guy from Porterville with that 378 00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:03,420 fabulous mixed-tech look? 379 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:27,159 Yeah, I think I have this relationship with this guy that is pretty 380 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:33,860 extraordinary and so tender and so delicate and he's a 381 00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:40,760 pain in the neck for a lot of things, but like delicacy in life that 382 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,760 is so real. 383 00:34:45,860 --> 00:34:52,520 You know, the collection has to be ready in two weeks, so... Even though if it 384 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:59,020 was not, I don't think... We are not that paranoiac. 385 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,100 Oh, look what I just got. This is my most exciting new thing in the class. 386 00:35:05,340 --> 00:35:06,340 Uh-huh. 387 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,800 My goodness. 388 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,400 So 389 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:25,360 how big 390 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,140 is the actual rooster that grows it? 391 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,020 Oh, I see. So it's really a most staggering extravagance. You know, isn't 392 00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:34,020 that wonderful? 393 00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:36,020 My goodness. 394 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,800 I didn't realize it was, I thought when you were photographing the model that it 395 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,800 was something manufactured. 396 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,520 It's amazing. 397 00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:51,100 Imagine extruding that. It's fantastic, isn't it? 398 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:52,780 They're really, really rare. 399 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,280 Yeah. 400 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,520 They're beautiful. 401 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,000 It didn't take me a long time. It didn't take Maya a long time to find them. 402 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,200 But even like the mess of pointing on the floor and everything, I think you 403 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,080 need that because otherwise it would be too... Not that I'm doing it on purpose. 404 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,640 No. 405 00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:42,350 And then I always think, okay, so now this is all established and everything, 406 00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:47,430 so I should find myself another little niche now. 407 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:51,230 You two look like brother and sister, you know. 408 00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:02,160 So you don't have the same great-grandfather or anything like that? 409 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,740 I have to do the search. 410 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,600 And 411 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:11,940 what 412 00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:12,940 about Rick and Michelle? 413 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:18,940 The last time I talked to Michelle on camera, she was saying that she felt she 414 00:37:18,940 --> 00:37:24,280 had reached the point in her collaboration with Rick where he was 415 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,260 now... had arrived where he was going, and it was time for her to look for 416 00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:30,480 something to do for herself. 417 00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:38,040 Well, she did find Gareth Pugh, and they have been working with him, 418 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:43,360 and it has sort of developed. But in that process, or in between the time of 419 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,880 her going and starting a new project with Gareth... 420 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,740 I think she fell in love again with Rick's work and the whole world, and now 421 00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:58,080 she's like, I mean, she's so engrossed and enthralled with it, and it's just 422 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,620 growing non-stop, and because it's growing, she's getting to get new 423 00:38:03,620 --> 00:38:09,680 spaces for showrooms or this or that, so she's really excited about that. 424 00:39:01,529 --> 00:39:02,529 Hello, Charlie. 425 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:04,510 I love you. I love you. 426 00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:06,850 Okay. 427 00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:08,870 All right. Thank you. 428 00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:17,150 You know, I love New York. 429 00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:18,810 She's from L.A. 430 00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:23,190 I love New York, you know. No. 431 00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:27,050 No, no. I love New York. 432 00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:28,770 But. 433 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,480 But I live in LA 434 00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:12,510 Michelle and I are in New York, in Starlet, and we're installing a 435 00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:15,890 furniture exhibit called Pavane for a Dead Princess. 436 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:23,310 And that name comes from when I was a kid, my parents used to play a lot of 437 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:29,550 classical music, and Pavane for a Dead Princess was, besides being a haunting 438 00:40:29,550 --> 00:40:30,550 piece, 439 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,100 The name was, I was always kind of fascinated with the name because it was 440 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:39,020 kind of morbid and romantic and mysterious. 441 00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:42,440 And it always stuck with me. 442 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:48,920 And it seemed appropriate for this show, which is of an alabaster bed and an 443 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,000 alabaster daybed. 444 00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:56,140 It was supposed to be based on our house, our bedroom. 445 00:40:57,790 --> 00:41:02,610 In Paris, there's a duplicate of the bedroom in Hollywood that you remember, 446 00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:08,770 so you would be really familiar with these safes and these pieces. 447 00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:15,810 Now they were translated into Alabaster, and the shipping was challenging, and 448 00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:19,610 the installation was challenging, and I 449 00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:26,330 understand engineers were consulted. 450 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:34,030 because of the weight 1.5 tons i almost like how i like how it has almost 451 00:41:34,030 --> 00:41:40,530 a disposable feeling but you know in monolithic pieces 452 00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:46,750 and also the thing about all of that art deco furniture it's just small 453 00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:52,570 and being the true american i am i oversized everything 454 00:41:55,660 --> 00:42:02,540 So it's kind of like, it's very Jean Harlow, like the clothes, like an Art 455 00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:05,940 Deco set, but in black primer and oversized. 456 00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:12,520 And recently, I wanted to get a little bit more 457 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:19,380 opulent, and so I started using marble, and after 458 00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:22,640 the marble came the alabaster, just because. 459 00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:25,510 It was softer. 460 00:42:25,730 --> 00:42:29,390 And there was something a little bit more mythological about the alabaster 461 00:42:29,390 --> 00:42:30,390 and almost biblical. 462 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:31,710 And I liked those references. 463 00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:38,910 I liked how it was kind of ancient feeling and in this great modern shape. 464 00:42:39,370 --> 00:42:44,910 And when I think about furniture and clothes, you know, 465 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:49,170 I get asked sometimes about what the inspiration is. 466 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,600 I think it's just an accumulation of things. 467 00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:59,980 I think every creative person just draws on their memories of their favorite 468 00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:06,740 things and you just kind of make your own collage of it. And I always think of 469 00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:10,940 it kind of like haiku. You take a couple of elements and you try with the fewest 470 00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:16,700 elements possible to create a whole new composition that is your personal 471 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,320 expression. 472 00:43:20,590 --> 00:43:25,130 Sometimes it works, and when it works, it can kind of create this whole world 473 00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:26,610 out of the fewest elements possible. 474 00:43:28,850 --> 00:43:32,850 That's what I try to do with the clothes, and that's what I try to do 475 00:43:32,850 --> 00:43:33,850 with the furniture. 476 00:43:34,810 --> 00:43:41,730 I'm trying to make kind of a straight line from point A to point B and make 477 00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:45,490 it as pure and graceful as possible. 478 00:43:45,730 --> 00:43:48,750 I've always said, even with the clothing design, 479 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:57,270 Being a designer is like 5% inspiration and 95% execution. 480 00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:03,830 I think anybody can be a designer. I think it's just the tenacity and the 481 00:44:03,830 --> 00:44:06,810 commitment and the determination. 482 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,440 If you could customize your environment, I think anybody would. 483 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:29,600 And when I do that, I have a selection of stuff, and then Michelle kind of 484 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,260 edits. And we do this in a really organic way. It's not as if we kind of 485 00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:38,960 thought up this project and we kind of formally sat down and decided who would 486 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,240 do what. My part is that I just make proposals, and Michelle responds. 487 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,640 And, you know, some things make it through that process and some things are 488 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,120 eliminated in a very kind of organic way. 489 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,900 The furniture, you know, it's not particularly witty. It's not 490 00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:03,100 conceptual. 491 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:10,460 I was kind of trying to go for beauty 492 00:45:10,460 --> 00:45:13,200 in a kind of earnest way. 493 00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:21,450 An earnest search for beauty I don't think is probably very cool, which makes 494 00:45:21,450 --> 00:45:22,450 it even cooler. 495 00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:32,450 I think that this installation, probably even though I'm getting all the credit, 496 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:35,630 is really a triumph for Michelle. 497 00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:40,650 The furniture is a really different thing from the clothes. 498 00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:46,900 I started the furniture just because we needed the stuff in the house when we 499 00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:47,900 moved to that house. 500 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,320 And so, you know, we needed a couple of things, and I started making a couch 501 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,200 here, a chair there, and before we knew it, we had a whole bunch of stuff that I 502 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:05,180 showed as an exhibit to kind of just to, as a 503 00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:10,520 one-shot deal, to give extra energy to one of our men's showrooms. 504 00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:15,680 season but it was supposed to be a one-shot deal and it just kind of 505 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,260 developed a life of its own and the reason that it did partly at the 506 00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:26,320 beginning is because Michelle took an interest in it and she started 507 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,600 developing it 508 00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:45,790 I can be a little bit dictatorial. 509 00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:53,450 I'm probably fairly cold in that department. 510 00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:58,850 And she has, I mean, we all know she has that warmth and she has that magic 511 00:46:58,850 --> 00:47:04,990 spirit that just, that kind of pulls things out of people. 512 00:47:07,050 --> 00:47:09,790 And I know that this is a project that she's really enjoyed. 513 00:47:10,090 --> 00:47:15,170 I mean, I see her excitement when she's making progress with these artists. 514 00:47:15,690 --> 00:47:22,550 And when there's an emergency and she has to run across town 515 00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:26,830 to go deal with one of these guys, that's her favorite thing in the world. 516 00:48:20,020 --> 00:48:21,140 I like it. 517 00:48:52,780 --> 00:48:53,780 to the airport. 518 00:49:29,770 --> 00:49:30,770 kind of a way. 519 00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:34,190 And, you know, it was a struggle. 520 00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:05,950 And the world is going round. 521 00:51:08,290 --> 00:51:13,570 Hide from drinking tin corn. 522 00:51:16,030 --> 00:51:21,650 And your trouble dawn won't come down. 523 00:51:24,550 --> 00:51:29,730 The one you love has left you. 524 00:51:30,930 --> 00:51:32,250 Cannot. 525 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,500 Define. 526 00:52:40,330 --> 00:52:41,330 No. 527 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,560 a couple of weeks ago, wasn't it? 528 00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:51,760 Yeah, it was a couple of weeks ago. It was in a new space, beautiful Art Deco. 529 00:53:52,780 --> 00:53:57,500 And the show, I actually cried. I mean, literally tears were dripping down my 530 00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:58,500 face. 531 00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:05,340 Rick played this song by Freddie Mercury, which is a beautiful, soft love 532 00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:06,340 song. 533 00:54:06,460 --> 00:54:10,920 And it just, I mean, I was crying because I just felt like this show was 534 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,340 such a declaration of love to Michelle. 535 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:20,280 And even to the point where the girls were all wearing, or had, their outfits 536 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,260 were very similar to what Michelle wears on a daily basis. 537 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,020 And, you know, it just, you know, and it just went on and on, the song, and then 538 00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:33,460 it just ended with three beautiful, long, I love you, I love you, I love 539 00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:37,680 you, and, oh, it just, yeah, it was, like, takes my breath away. 540 00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:43,580 From your mouth to God's ear. 541 00:55:32,940 --> 00:55:34,520 I'm feeling ugly. 542 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,580 And you're my boy. 543 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,200 See every night. 544 00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:53,160 They send you destination. 545 00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:56,920 I'm too tired. 546 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,380 You're my daddy. 547 00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:05,490 Thank you. 548 00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:09,250 Thank you. 549 00:58:22,990 --> 00:58:23,990 Using I 45576

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