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After his
first line on camera...
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Room 607.
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...to
his first features.
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Come on and ride with me.
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Worship the man.
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I thought he was so sexy,
and he was so handsome.
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Like a god.
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Han Solo.
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She may not look like much--
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Harrison Ford
was now a star.
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It was "Star Wars."
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It was "The Empire
Strikes Back,"
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and it was "Raiders
of Lost Ark."
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Those three just were
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launching him in a big way.
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But complacency can
land an actor in the scrap heap.
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A breakaway from Lucasfilm
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was now essential.
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I didn't want to do the same
thing over and over again.
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So Harrison Ford
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walked into a bar.
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You got the wrong guy, pal.
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He wasn't as nice as
he could have been to me.
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And a nightmare.
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Harrison had to perform
on an empty stage.
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The book, that
wasn't. The book that was.
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I'm a writer and I don't
like people rewriting me.
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The movie
that was eventually...
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They were running out of
money from the very beginning.
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...a budget disaster.
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There was a lot of animosity
that was building up.
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And a director
who clashed with everyone.
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He and Harrison seemed to
have a lot of angry exchanges.
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Harrison came and he said,
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"Why are you making her
do this so many times?"
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Causing
turmoil on set.
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We did go through
a lot of crew.
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They fired
everybody except me.
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And F bombs.
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What the
is he doing?
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And suddenly, "Blade
Runner" was in deep trouble.
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How did a
catastrophic production...
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She was crazy.
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...turn into a
cult classic with a sequel,
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three shorts, an anime,
and countless fans?
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Names, now.
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When it came out,
it sort of bombed.
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At the screening, I felt like
I was giving birth in public.
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What the is
happening to my movie?
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{\an8}Like many
great films,
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{\an8}Harrison Ford's first real
venture outside Lucasfilm
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{\an8}began with words on a page.
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Intriguingly, not the
words in this book,
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the words in this one.
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Science fiction
author Philip K. Dick's
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"Do Androids Dream
of Electric Sheep?"
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It came out in '68.
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Famed visionary
author behind books
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that would go on to
be adapted into films
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like "Total Recall,"
"Minority Report"
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and "A Scanner Darkly."
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How did I get here?
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22
dystopian chapters
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of an android infested,
but sheepless future
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at a time when
science fiction cinema
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had open minds.
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Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
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Although
not the pod bay doors.
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I'm afraid
I can't do that.
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{\an8}Herb Jaffe wanted
to option the book,
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but immediately turned it into
a shoot-him-up with robots
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{\an8}and Phil hated it.
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And
the project stalled.
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CBS was going to do it
as a made for TV movie.
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Even Martin Scorsese and
Jay Cocks tried to option it.
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Actor turned
writer Hampton Fancher
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came into a large sum of money.
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{\an8}Someone gave me $10,000
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{\an8}and I knew it was the only
time I'd ever have $10,000
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{\an8}in my life.
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I decided that I
should option a book.
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I called a friend of mine.
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That friend
was actress Barbara Hershey.
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- Come on in.
- Who starred
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in '70's hits
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like, "The Baby Maker."
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...who said, "You could try
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"'Do Androids Dream
of Electric Sheep?'
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"By Philip K. Dick."
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Well, there you are.
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Surely Hampton
would be on the same page
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as the eccentric Philip K. Dick.
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I don't think he liked me.
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I think he thought I was
some producer type guy
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from Hollywood come
to get his wares
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and take him away
for my own use.
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Leaving
empty handed,
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Hampton quickly
got in touch with
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"Flipper" star Brian Kelly.
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Hi, Flipper.
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Brian Kelly was a
best friend of mine, an actor.
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Brian
moved into producing
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and after teaming
up with Hampton,
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managed to talk
Philip K. Dick over the line.
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He succeeded.
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He came to me and said,
"That novel, I optioned it."
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I said, "For how much?"
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He said $2,000 or
whatever it was.
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A laughable sum,
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but it got the ball rolling.
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Although Hampton wasn't
keen to write the treatment
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for "Electric Sheep."
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That's not my cup of tea.
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I said, "I don't do that."
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He let himself be convinced.
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Finally, I said,
"If you pay my rent
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"for three months, I'll try."
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It was a good
try because Brian Kelly
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sent it straight to a very
big name in Hollywood.
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Michael Deeley, who
was a friend of his,
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the producer who had just
won the Academy Award
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for "Deer Hunter."
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And Michael said, "Maybe
there's something here."
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{\an8}He immediately loved it
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{\an8}and decided he was
gonna produce that.
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He called me up and he
said, "We are doing a movie."
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Big
Money followed Lee
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with Filmways
investing $13 million.
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And then big names
like Robert Mulligan
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who directed "To
Kill a Mockingbird,"
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who wasn't quite
dystopian enough.
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That's when Michael Deeley
wanted to hire Ridley Scott.
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If anyone could
bust out dystopian moves,
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it was Ridley.
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Ridley had ceased his
involvement with "Dune"
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after losing his big
brother Frank to cancer.
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"Alien" producer and fellow
Englishman Ivor Powell saw a way
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for his old friend
to process the grief.
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Ivor brings "Blade
Runner" to him
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and Ridley goes,
"Hmm, I will do this."
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And immediately starts to darken
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what is already a
very dark story.
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If
only Harrison knew
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what was around the corner,
he might have stayed
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chilling out in the Hoth system
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because Hampton and Ridley
were now butting heads
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over a script with the working
title of "Dangerous Days."
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Ridley wanted changes
and Hampton liked
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what he'd already written.
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They should be
paying attention to me,
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about what I want.
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I wasn't getting my way.
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So I got frustrated and I said,
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"So what the is
happening to my movie?"
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He said, "That's called
writing a script, Hampton.
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"This is called making a movie."
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Being the one
who optioned "Electric Sheep,"
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Hampton was the
executive producer.
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If he couldn't be fired,
he could be undermined
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by an unknown writer
brought in by Ridley Scott
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behind his back.
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{\an8}Michael sent this
script over to me.
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{\an8}This was Hampton's draft
and it was so god damn good
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it broke my heart.
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And I said, "It's terrific,
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"I wouldn't touch a thing in it.
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"I wouldn't know what
to do to improve it."
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But
David became intrigued
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with the script's
theme of genetics
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and started modifications.
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- Hello.
- - After finding someone
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genetically similar,
he unwittingly created
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a brand new word.
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I called my daughter Risa,
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who was doing chemistry
at UCLA at the time.
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And I said, "What is all
this stuff about genes
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"and what they do and stuff?"
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And in the course of the
conversation she mentioned
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that the genes replicate.
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Out of that conversation
came the word "replicant."
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Earning
David and his daughter
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their place in movie history.
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But who came up with the
film's eventual title?
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"Blade Runner"
the book was written
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by a science fiction writer.
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With no
connection to "Electric Sheep"
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or Hampton's screenplay.
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The plot is about doctors
smuggling in medical equipment,
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including scalpels.
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Hence the
term "Blade Runner."
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The novel was adapted into
a film treatment by one
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William S. Burroughs, then
published as a paperback.
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It was Ridley who said to me,
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"What the hell
does this guy do?
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"We gotta have a name for that."
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He's a blade runner.
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That's somebody who runs
along the knife edge of danger.
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I need the old Blade
Runner. I need your magic.
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Michael said, "He's
a Blade Runner.
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"Why not call it
'Blade Runner?'"
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And we all just went pow.
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To avoid
being accused of theft,
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Michael Deeley bought the rights
for the "Blade Runner" title.
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Now all they needed
was a Blade Runner.
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I'd written it
with Robert Mitchum
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who I was thinking
of for the protagonist.
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Would you like me to
tell you the little story
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of right hand, left hand?
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But the studio
needed someone more bankable.
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Hey, I'm walking here.
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Dustin Hoffman was approached
and was interested.
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Dustin may have been
interested,
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but nobody else was.
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Why Dustin Hoffman?
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I'd be doing
both of you a favor.
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Brilliant actor,
but he was not right
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for Michael Deeley's vision.
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Once again, Barbara
Hershey played matchmaker,
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bringing the big guns
to "Blade Runner."
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Barbara was friends
with Spielberg
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and he was telling her
how great Harrison was.
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You could see that
there's no problem
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with the financing or anything
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if he's gonna be a huge star.
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Not wanting to
take Spielberg's word for it,
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they flew to London to meet
their prospective leading man.
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Ridley always
said "Blade Runner"
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was the film noir set
40 years in the future,
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and you'll have the trench coat,
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you'll have the
snapper and fedora
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and all that kind of stuff.
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Harrison shows up in the
meeting in the Indy costume
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with the fedora on.
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And Ridley's going, oh, sh--.
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Says, "I lost my fedora."
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And Ridley said, "That's it.
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"I have my Deckard."
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And
Deckard, well Harrison,
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had his first leading
role in something
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a little less cartoony.
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What was it about "Blade Runner"
that got Harrison hooked?
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{\an8}He was intrigued
by "Blade Runner"
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{\an8}because it was different enough
from the previous films, but
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it was still something
the audiences seemed
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to be really excited about,
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was science fiction
in the future.
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He said, "I really thought
the Deckard character
was interesting."
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I thought it was someone
who was possibly alcoholic,
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burned out, completely
lost touch with the society
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around him and then
more than anything else,
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someone who had to
manufacture the emotions
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and the relationship
with an artificial human.
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Harrison Ford
was now fully invested
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in "Blade Runner."
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I'm Deckard, Blade Runner.
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{\an8}As was
Filmways until they weren't.
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Now at the same time they
were doing "Blade Runner,"
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they were doing a movie
with John Travolta
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called "Blow Out."
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Filmways was putting all
their eggs in that basket.
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Boom, it bombs.
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And then Filmways is
really starting to totter.
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{\an8}Not for the first time art was imitating life.
What's the line?
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Somebody who runs along
the knife edge of danger.
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To become
a prophecy of doom.
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And suddenly "Blade
Runner" was in deep trouble.
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In late
December of 1980,
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Harrison Ford was
preparing his role
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for director Ridley
Scott to roll cameras.
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At the same time, "Blade
Runner's" financier Filmways
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was releasing a
John Travolta movie
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they'd bet the house on.
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{\an8}Boom, it bombs and the
writing was on the wall.
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{\an8}We were in pre-production
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and Filmways went bankrupt.
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{\an8}So they were
scurrying around to try
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{\an8}to get somebody else to fund it.
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They were
already building sets.
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They were doing
some script rewrites.
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But those
constant rewrites,
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courtesy of Ridley
Scott were putting off
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prospective new investors
who needed to see
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a definitive master script.
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Ridley and Michael
pasted together a script
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from both Hampton's and my work.
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{\an8}And somehow using that script,
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{\an8}they were able to get
the film refinanced.
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Michael, in his amazing way,
put together the financing
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in a matter of days.
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In 10
days, Michael Deeley
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secured 21.5 million
in a three way deal
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with three new investor
groups, including--
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Alan Ladd,
Jr. of the Ladd Company.
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Ladd
invested 7.5 million.
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And so did another investor.
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Sir Run Run Shaw, the
famous Chinese producer
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and entrepreneur. Then they
go to Tandem Productions.
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That group had done "All In
The Family," "Sanford and Son."
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Tandem
would match the 7.5
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put up by the Ladd company.
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But Tandem's Jerry Perenchio
and Bud Yorkin's investment
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had a major string attached.
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They would be bond guarantors
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in case the movie
went over budget.
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Completion bond guarantors
are essentially insurers
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{\an8}who say, okay, we'll put
in this amount of money.
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{\an8}But the deal is that if you
go over a certain percentage
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or a certain amount of time,
you've defaulted on our loan
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and then we take
control of the property.
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{\an8}Genius.
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Well, evil genius.
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Does the word
asshole come into mind?
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Come back to that.
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Because now with coffers
refilled, it was all systems go,
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including more script updates
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from an unorthodox Ridley Scott.
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And I'd run over
where he was on the set
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and give him the pages
and he'd be dismissive.
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He was no longer
interested in the pages
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because he'd had
another idea since then.
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There
wasn't time for David
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and Ridley's rewrites to be
approved by Hampton Fancher,
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who now had the
nickname Happen Faster.
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He would find out about
them at a very awkward time.
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It was Christmas and I was
invited over to Ivor's house
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and then Ivor laid a script
in front of my empty plate
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and I said, "What the
is this?"
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And he said, "That's
the new script."
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And I said, "Who wrote this?"
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He said, "A good writer."
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Sorry.
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{\an8}And I said, " you
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{\an8}"and everybody
else in the world."
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But even
with the writer locked in...
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you.
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...make
that two writers,
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there was still a matter of
locking in the rest of the cast.
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I introduced Ridley
to Rutger Hauer
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by showing him
three of his films.
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Rutger Hauer
had recently starred opposite
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Stallone and Billy Dee
Williams in "Nighthawks."
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Ridley cast him sight unseen.
343
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That was irrational of you.
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Rutger is extremely large.
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Gosh, he's a very wide man.
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With a huge butt.
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It just made
his character so imposing.
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Yet they
were still on the lookout
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for a female lead.
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Maybe Hampton's friend Barbara.
351
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I did write that character
with Barbara in mind.
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Barbara Hershey.
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She was too old for
the part, but not much.
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It's terrible how women get
categorized, but there you go.
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Could TV actress
Nina Axelrod
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create the subtle mystery
Ridley Scott wanted?
357
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You know, Mr. Deckard,
there's two reasons
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a man rejects help.
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It
was a no for Nina.
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How was Ridley going
to find his Rachel?
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She was a general
casting call.
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I got the call, I got
really kind of depressed
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because I was a little scared
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{\an8}'cause when things become real
you gotta actually show up
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{\an8}and you gotta do a good job.
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And I was pretty
inexperienced at that time.
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Other
actors like Daryl Hannah
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came fully formed
with physical ability.
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{\an8}She really owned it.
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Meanwhile,
actress Joanna Cassidy
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would use the family
pet to her advantage.
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How do you mean exploited?
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That was her snake.
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- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah.
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Yeah, that's her pet snake.
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Appropriately
named Darling.
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{\an8}I think I'm the
only actress in town
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{\an8}that has a snake.
379
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Talk about
beauty and the beast.
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And he is very good too.
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He's very talented.
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Adding
another dimension
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to the "Blade Runner"
world was Eddie Olmos
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and his made up language
of Cityspeak.
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A mishmash of
Japanese, Spanish, German,
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what have you.
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There was Cityspeak
in the script
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before Edward Olmos came along.
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He is the one who
finished it off
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and made it work the way it did
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With the
ensemble complete,
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Sean Young was invited into
Harrison's personal trailer
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where she immediately
felt uncomfortable.
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I went to meet him.
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I'm Rachel.
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Deckard.
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He had a present
from Steven Spielberg,
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which was a long
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pole that had
a drip on it
400
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like when you go
into the hospital.
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{\an8}He said, "Well,
Steven gave it to me
402
00:17:03,669 --> 00:17:06,339
"for my drug problem."
403
00:17:07,090 --> 00:17:09,383
Quite an
eyeopener for a 19-year-old,
404
00:17:09,509 --> 00:17:12,595
2000 miles from home in
Louisville, Kentucky.
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I mean, I think it was
a joke, although in 1980,
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00:17:15,765 --> 00:17:17,475
it's probably not
that much of a joke.
407
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,646
But he wasn't as nice as
he could have been to me.
408
00:17:21,646 --> 00:17:24,399
And he wasn't interested
in babysitting.
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00:17:24,524 --> 00:17:27,110
And I might have
required or desired
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a little bit of hand-holding.
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But he was not gonna
have any of that.
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Sean was in
for more than a hand-holding.
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When she was asked to go
and pick up her director
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from his house to deliver
them both to a Filmex event.
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Knock on Ridley's door,
lets me in.
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{\an8}Have some champagne.
417
00:17:47,046 --> 00:17:50,299
{\an8}And then he kinda grabs my ass.
418
00:17:50,425 --> 00:17:52,009
{\an8}I'm like
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I said, "Oh my God,
would you stop it?"
420
00:18:01,644 --> 00:18:04,021
In 1981,
during the production
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00:18:04,021 --> 00:18:07,358
of "Blade Runner," a young
Sean Young found herself alone
422
00:18:07,358 --> 00:18:09,152
with Director Ridley Scott.
423
00:18:09,318 --> 00:18:12,196
{\an8}Ridley
kinda grabs my ass
424
00:18:13,239 --> 00:18:16,701
{\an8}and I'm pissed.
425
00:18:17,827 --> 00:18:19,370
After
Sean's rejection,
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00:18:19,495 --> 00:18:21,998
Ridley went in
another direction.
427
00:18:22,123 --> 00:18:23,791
{\an8}You know, he gets
together with Joanna
428
00:18:23,791 --> 00:18:25,042
{\an8}and I'm thinking,
429
00:18:25,501 --> 00:18:28,713
{\an8}Big relief. And good for her.
430
00:18:28,921 --> 00:18:31,716
{\an8}If she loves him, likes him,
whatever, it's good for her.
431
00:18:31,716 --> 00:18:33,009
{\an8}I'm happy.
432
00:18:33,551 --> 00:18:35,553
She'd escaped
being alone with Ridley,
433
00:18:35,678 --> 00:18:38,055
only to face a different
kind of loneliness.
434
00:18:39,348 --> 00:18:41,392
{\an8}He put her way
on the other side
435
00:18:41,517 --> 00:18:44,479
{\an8}of the lot, away from everyone
else, in a tiny little cubicle.
436
00:18:44,479 --> 00:18:48,483
{\an8}The reasoning he gave to
people was that he wanted me
437
00:18:48,483 --> 00:18:51,069
{\an8}to be like an Android
and a replicant
438
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and not have much experience.
439
00:18:52,820 --> 00:18:56,032
But if that were really
true, then my performance
440
00:18:56,157 --> 00:18:59,410
wouldn't have been led into
such a human direction, right?
441
00:18:59,535 --> 00:19:02,080
Those aren't your memories.
They're somebody else's.
442
00:19:02,205 --> 00:19:04,665
Keeping Sean
cooped up wasn't going to work.
443
00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:07,668
She soon started
making her own friends.
444
00:19:07,668 --> 00:19:09,295
There were people
on "Blade Runner"
445
00:19:09,295 --> 00:19:11,255
who loved Sean.
Charles Knode, for example,
446
00:19:11,255 --> 00:19:14,133
the costume designer.
They were great friends.
447
00:19:14,133 --> 00:19:16,427
He was one of my main
sources of laughter
448
00:19:16,427 --> 00:19:19,097
through that show because
it was kind of a lonely show
449
00:19:19,097 --> 00:19:21,224
for me so he used
to make me laugh.
450
00:19:21,349 --> 00:19:22,642
Charles would come over
451
00:19:22,767 --> 00:19:24,602
{\an8}and he would show
me Harrison's coat.
452
00:19:24,602 --> 00:19:26,396
{\an8}And there were
these little vials,
453
00:19:26,521 --> 00:19:28,689
{\an8}empty vials
of what had coke in them.
454
00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:30,441
{\an8}I'm presuming.
455
00:19:30,441 --> 00:19:33,111
I think Harry has probably
cleaned up his act
456
00:19:33,111 --> 00:19:34,529
a lot since then.
457
00:19:34,654 --> 00:19:36,322
But
the fun atmosphere
458
00:19:36,447 --> 00:19:39,158
of the costume department
wouldn't be replicated
459
00:19:39,283 --> 00:19:40,368
in the art department.
460
00:19:40,493 --> 00:19:42,203
That was Ridley's domain.
461
00:19:42,203 --> 00:19:44,414
It was challenging
for a lot of the crew
462
00:19:44,414 --> 00:19:46,791
because he had such a vision.
463
00:19:46,791 --> 00:19:49,585
Ridley's a little bit
of a, what's the word?
464
00:19:49,585 --> 00:19:50,628
An artist.
465
00:19:50,753 --> 00:19:51,713
He's a designer.
466
00:19:52,672 --> 00:19:54,173
Um...
467
00:19:54,298 --> 00:19:56,426
What would be the
nice way to put it?
468
00:19:56,551 --> 00:19:58,719
After the first day,
everyone was afraid.
469
00:19:58,845 --> 00:20:00,638
What's he not gonna like?
470
00:20:00,763 --> 00:20:03,474
Ridley's a little
bit of a perfectionist.
471
00:20:03,474 --> 00:20:05,476
Those
famously elaborate sets
472
00:20:05,476 --> 00:20:08,312
where Harrison Ford and the
cast would work their magic
473
00:20:08,312 --> 00:20:12,316
were being created by
Neo Futurist, Syd Mead
474
00:20:12,316 --> 00:20:16,737
and art director Larry Paull,
who enlisted David Snyder.
475
00:20:16,863 --> 00:20:20,283
Larry brought me into
his office and said,
476
00:20:20,283 --> 00:20:22,368
{\an8}"Ridley, this is David Snyder.
477
00:20:22,368 --> 00:20:24,537
{\an8}"He's gonna be
the art director."
478
00:20:24,537 --> 00:20:26,539
{\an8}And he smiled and stood
up and shook my hand
479
00:20:26,664 --> 00:20:28,708
and he said, "Too
bad for you, mate."
480
00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:32,170
The prop department was
spending $5,000 in cash
481
00:20:32,170 --> 00:20:36,132
every day because Ridley had
to approve every coffee cup,
482
00:20:36,257 --> 00:20:37,884
every pen, every glass.
483
00:20:37,884 --> 00:20:40,720
And all this
with an already tight budget.
484
00:20:40,845 --> 00:20:42,680
I don't know if
he can ever get everything
485
00:20:42,805 --> 00:20:44,682
he wants 'cause
he's so brilliant.
486
00:20:44,807 --> 00:20:47,602
The people that really got
his aesthetic and got him,
487
00:20:47,727 --> 00:20:49,353
{\an8}there was never a problem.
488
00:20:49,353 --> 00:20:52,565
{\an8}But if you didn't get
his brain, forget it.
489
00:20:52,565 --> 00:20:55,526
Not seeing what
Ridley saw was a problem.
490
00:20:55,651 --> 00:20:58,446
But when it came to the
camera, Ridley couldn't see
491
00:20:58,446 --> 00:21:02,283
what the DP saw and that would
be an even bigger problem.
492
00:21:02,658 --> 00:21:05,244
Up until this point,
Ridley on all the films
493
00:21:05,369 --> 00:21:09,624
that he directed in the
UK was also the cameraman.
494
00:21:09,624 --> 00:21:13,586
Here in Hollywood, the unions
do not allow the director
495
00:21:13,711 --> 00:21:15,588
to operate the camera.
496
00:21:15,588 --> 00:21:19,509
{\an8}So Ridley was in a very
difficult situation
497
00:21:19,634 --> 00:21:23,388
{\an8}of not being able to direct
through the eye of the camera.
498
00:21:24,555 --> 00:21:26,432
But on
day one of shooting,
499
00:21:26,557 --> 00:21:29,560
it didn't take a lens for
Ridley to notice a flaw.
500
00:21:29,685 --> 00:21:31,729
The first day of
shooting finally arrived.
501
00:21:31,729 --> 00:21:34,399
The floors were
polished like glass
502
00:21:34,399 --> 00:21:36,400
and the columns were there.
503
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,444
When he came in and he said,
504
00:21:38,569 --> 00:21:39,904
"I think the columns
would look better"
505
00:21:39,904 --> 00:21:41,823
"if we turned them upside down."
506
00:21:43,908 --> 00:21:46,619
In the interviews, Ridley has
said they should have known
507
00:21:46,744 --> 00:21:48,955
because that was the
way it was drawn.
508
00:21:48,955 --> 00:21:52,291
Well, I disagree.
509
00:21:52,291 --> 00:21:54,836
The very first thing I
had to do on "Blade Runner" was
510
00:21:55,503 --> 00:21:58,881
walk onto the set and
say, "Do you like our owl?"
511
00:21:59,090 --> 00:22:00,425
Do you like our owl?
512
00:22:01,259 --> 00:22:02,927
Harrison
was ambivalent.
513
00:22:03,344 --> 00:22:06,264
- It's artificial?
- But Ridley wasn't.
514
00:22:06,264 --> 00:22:09,684
Sean had to do a few
takes to master that word.
515
00:22:09,809 --> 00:22:12,395
Yeah, 26 times.
Ridley didn't like
516
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,938
that I was going "owl."
517
00:22:13,938 --> 00:22:15,523
Do you like our owl?
518
00:22:15,523 --> 00:22:16,941
Sean faced another challenge.
519
00:22:18,025 --> 00:22:19,277
Walking properly.
520
00:22:19,277 --> 00:22:21,028
{\an8}Her walk had to be perfect.
521
00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:24,991
I kept looking down
to know where to stop.
522
00:22:25,116 --> 00:22:27,285
They kept telling
me, don't look down.
523
00:22:27,410 --> 00:22:31,581
{\an8}I think by day three,
we had only captured
524
00:22:32,165 --> 00:22:35,418
{\an8}half of the first day's
scheduled work.
525
00:22:35,418 --> 00:22:36,878
Ridley had no compassion
526
00:22:36,878 --> 00:22:38,921
about what he was
putting them through.
527
00:22:38,921 --> 00:22:41,966
And a lot of people
were very offended
528
00:22:42,091 --> 00:22:45,762
by Ridley's language
and treatment of them.
529
00:22:45,762 --> 00:22:47,889
And there was a
great deal of animosity
530
00:22:47,889 --> 00:22:49,432
in the crew against Ridley.
531
00:22:49,432 --> 00:22:51,601
And he had first class people.
532
00:22:51,601 --> 00:22:54,604
And the head
of the class was Harrison.
533
00:22:54,729 --> 00:22:58,316
He and Harrison seemed
to have a lot of conflicts,
534
00:22:58,441 --> 00:23:01,527
a lot of angry exchanges.
535
00:23:01,527 --> 00:23:03,905
An actor
who wanted to be more
536
00:23:03,905 --> 00:23:05,823
than just an actor.
537
00:23:05,823 --> 00:23:07,825
Ridley, I heard him say it
multiple times to Harrison,
538
00:23:07,825 --> 00:23:10,286
"Mate, I hired you because
you're good at what you do.
539
00:23:10,411 --> 00:23:12,455
"Just go do it." And
then he'd walk away.
540
00:23:12,455 --> 00:23:14,624
Harrison's not like that.
He's a collaborator.
541
00:23:14,749 --> 00:23:16,793
He wanted to talk
about the character.
542
00:23:16,918 --> 00:23:18,711
And on
one major plot point,
543
00:23:18,711 --> 00:23:21,089
the star almost imploded.
544
00:23:21,089 --> 00:23:22,757
There was tension,
no doubt about Deckard
545
00:23:22,757 --> 00:23:24,425
being a replicant.
546
00:23:24,425 --> 00:23:27,428
And Harrison violently
pushed back against it.
547
00:23:27,428 --> 00:23:30,973
{\an8}He sensed that he was
being angled as a replicant.
548
00:23:31,099 --> 00:23:32,975
He fought
tooth and nail.
549
00:23:33,643 --> 00:23:35,603
And the
unforgiving atmosphere
550
00:23:35,603 --> 00:23:37,939
only dragged spirits lower.
551
00:23:37,939 --> 00:23:42,527
50 night shoots really
had a toll on everyone.
552
00:23:43,361 --> 00:23:47,073
Anytime you have to work
in wet with sprayers on top
553
00:23:47,198 --> 00:23:50,284
of you, is gonna be
not that much fun.
554
00:23:50,409 --> 00:23:52,662
Smoke all the time,
everywhere, everywhere.
555
00:23:52,787 --> 00:23:54,539
Smoke the stage,
smoke the stage.
556
00:23:54,539 --> 00:23:57,041
It was very thick, very harsh.
557
00:23:57,458 --> 00:23:59,460
The icy
conditions on set
558
00:23:59,460 --> 00:24:01,337
and glacial pace of shooting
559
00:24:01,337 --> 00:24:04,590
was leading to a famously
chilly interaction.
560
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,093
I didn't love that day.
561
00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:10,888
I remember being pushed.
562
00:24:10,888 --> 00:24:13,099
I think Ridley went
over to Harrison
563
00:24:13,224 --> 00:24:15,768
and said, "Push her
against the wall."
564
00:24:16,144 --> 00:24:18,354
It was a realization
that he liked her,
565
00:24:18,479 --> 00:24:19,689
loved her at that point.
566
00:24:19,689 --> 00:24:21,357
And it was--
567
00:24:21,607 --> 00:24:24,986
And I remember Harrison kind
of with my hair.
568
00:24:25,570 --> 00:24:29,657
It wasn't meant
to be that forceful.
569
00:24:30,992 --> 00:24:32,869
I remember being
in tears afterwards.
570
00:24:33,035 --> 00:24:34,412
I remember that.
571
00:24:36,664 --> 00:24:38,374
But Harrison knew
572
00:24:38,374 --> 00:24:40,668
just how he'd diffuse
the situation.
573
00:24:40,793 --> 00:24:43,755
He turned around
and he mooned me.
574
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,423
He mooned me.
575
00:24:46,466 --> 00:24:48,885
I have no idea why he
did that. I really don't.
576
00:24:48,885 --> 00:24:50,011
I couldn't tell you.
577
00:24:50,136 --> 00:24:51,179
I just thought it was like
578
00:24:51,179 --> 00:24:52,680
he was trying to distract me
579
00:24:52,805 --> 00:24:54,682
from crying or I
really don't know.
580
00:24:54,682 --> 00:24:58,102
Or maybe he felt bad that
I was crying. I'm not sure.
581
00:24:58,102 --> 00:25:00,063
I was glad the day was over,
582
00:25:00,188 --> 00:25:02,148
I gotta say I was definitely
glad the day was over.
583
00:25:02,648 --> 00:25:04,817
But would
an impromptu budget update
584
00:25:05,026 --> 00:25:07,653
with Tandem's Bud Yorkin
and Jerry Perenchio...
585
00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:10,490
The most money
oriented of money man.
586
00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:12,074
...be the final straw
587
00:25:12,074 --> 00:25:14,619
for an exasperated Ridley Scott?
588
00:25:15,411 --> 00:25:18,790
Ridley was unable to
structure any sentence
589
00:25:18,790 --> 00:25:20,750
without an F in it.
590
00:25:20,875 --> 00:25:23,127
He hated every American.
591
00:25:23,252 --> 00:25:25,671
A lot of the problem was
because it was an American crew
592
00:25:25,671 --> 00:25:27,465
and they didn't know
what they were doing.
593
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:29,634
He was beet red.
594
00:25:29,634 --> 00:25:31,719
He was just furious.
595
00:25:36,933 --> 00:25:38,893
By May of 1981,
596
00:25:38,893 --> 00:25:40,728
an unhappy crew
on "Blade Runner"
597
00:25:40,728 --> 00:25:42,146
is calling it "Blood Runner."
598
00:25:42,397 --> 00:25:44,399
It was unpleasant.
599
00:25:44,399 --> 00:25:47,944
{\an8}There was a lot of animosity
that was building up.
600
00:25:48,069 --> 00:25:49,821
Thanks
to increasing demands
601
00:25:49,821 --> 00:25:51,572
from an unimpressed director.
602
00:25:51,572 --> 00:25:53,825
I think a lot of the crew felt
603
00:25:53,825 --> 00:25:57,745
that Ridley would lose
his temper unjustifiably
604
00:25:57,745 --> 00:26:01,791
and that he was wasting time.
605
00:26:01,791 --> 00:26:05,169
He would get there and all of
a sudden sit around for five
606
00:26:05,294 --> 00:26:06,754
or six or seven hours.
607
00:26:06,754 --> 00:26:09,507
{\an8}You stepped on
that set visually,
608
00:26:09,507 --> 00:26:12,927
{\an8}you went, "Holy mother of God."
609
00:26:12,927 --> 00:26:14,595
Atmospherically,
you stepped on it
610
00:26:14,595 --> 00:26:18,141
and went, "Holy shit."
611
00:26:18,266 --> 00:26:20,685
But when
production moved to Los Angeles,
612
00:26:20,685 --> 00:26:24,147
the cast and crew would
be pushed even further.
613
00:26:24,272 --> 00:26:26,816
And Daryl Hannah wasn't exempt.
614
00:26:26,941 --> 00:26:30,528
My first meeting with her
is covering her with garbage.
615
00:26:30,528 --> 00:26:34,449
{\an8}She got up and ran and
when she hit the taxi,
616
00:26:34,449 --> 00:26:36,576
{\an8}her hand went through and
she actually cut herself.
617
00:26:36,576 --> 00:26:37,827
Hey!
618
00:26:37,827 --> 00:26:39,704
'Cause it wasn't
breakaway glass
619
00:26:39,704 --> 00:26:41,539
because it wasn't expected.
620
00:26:41,664 --> 00:26:45,626
I think she was in a phase
of drug use at the time.
621
00:26:45,752 --> 00:26:47,003
I'm lost.
622
00:26:47,003 --> 00:26:48,546
That was draining her.
623
00:26:48,546 --> 00:26:50,173
And then the sitting around
624
00:26:50,298 --> 00:26:51,966
and not doing anything
625
00:26:51,966 --> 00:26:53,051
for long periods of time.
626
00:26:53,051 --> 00:26:54,677
She did a lot of acting out.
627
00:26:57,472 --> 00:26:59,056
She danced around the set,
628
00:26:59,182 --> 00:27:02,685
talked like a child,
just like she was crazy.
629
00:27:04,479 --> 00:27:06,564
It wasn't just
the cast feeling the pressure,
630
00:27:06,773 --> 00:27:09,192
because when filming
moved back to LA
631
00:27:09,317 --> 00:27:11,652
at the famous Bradbury Building,
632
00:27:11,778 --> 00:27:13,654
We got to the
Bradbury Building.
633
00:27:13,654 --> 00:27:17,825
We had made a deal
to rent the sets
634
00:27:17,825 --> 00:27:19,035
from "Hello, Dolly!"
635
00:27:19,035 --> 00:27:20,661
We'll pretend we're rich
636
00:27:20,661 --> 00:27:22,580
that way we won't have
to spend anything.
637
00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,999
The art department
had to make a quick pivot
638
00:27:24,999 --> 00:27:27,084
when Fox backed out of a deal.
639
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:28,920
"You can't have the sets."
640
00:27:29,045 --> 00:27:31,506
So what am I gonna do now?
641
00:27:31,506 --> 00:27:33,091
In
the nick of time,
642
00:27:33,216 --> 00:27:36,010
a search of Warner's
backlot found a substitute.
643
00:27:36,010 --> 00:27:38,721
The interior of
Sebastian's apartment
644
00:27:38,846 --> 00:27:41,849
was built from the
sets of "My Fair Lady."
645
00:27:41,849 --> 00:27:43,601
And it was here
646
00:27:43,726 --> 00:27:46,187
where the fun began for
Ridley Scott's set decorators.
647
00:27:46,312 --> 00:27:48,022
Well, I had a bunch of
animatronics in there.
648
00:27:48,147 --> 00:27:50,566
Home again,
home again, diggity dig.
649
00:27:50,691 --> 00:27:53,194
Little things that
moved and flute players.
650
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:55,113
And then Ridley wanted
more things to move.
651
00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:56,781
So he would set up a shot
652
00:27:56,781 --> 00:27:58,741
{\an8}and then he would say,
"I need more motion."
653
00:27:58,741 --> 00:28:01,744
{\an8}Some of the grips would run in,
spin them, run outta camera.
654
00:28:01,869 --> 00:28:03,162
And then he'd say, "Okay, roll."
655
00:28:04,622 --> 00:28:06,582
Ridley
chose this moment to go
656
00:28:06,707 --> 00:28:09,544
and say this to a visiting
British journalist.
657
00:28:09,544 --> 00:28:12,755
{\an8}He much preferred working
with an English crew
658
00:28:12,755 --> 00:28:14,757
{\an8}and he could talk to
them in shorthand.
659
00:28:14,757 --> 00:28:16,801
{\an8}"Yes, governor, we
know what you want."
660
00:28:16,801 --> 00:28:18,636
And they called him "governor."
661
00:28:18,761 --> 00:28:21,848
T-shirts were printed that
said "Yes, gov, my ass,"
662
00:28:21,848 --> 00:28:23,808
which I refused to wear.
663
00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:27,145
With a potential
transatlantic mutiny looming.
664
00:28:27,145 --> 00:28:30,273
It felt to me like there
was the American faction
665
00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:31,816
and the British faction.
666
00:28:32,692 --> 00:28:34,819
With tensions
running high on the set,
667
00:28:34,944 --> 00:28:36,946
the ticking clock on
the Los Angeles shoot
668
00:28:36,946 --> 00:28:39,157
threatened to send
the budget spiraling
669
00:28:39,157 --> 00:28:41,117
even further out of control.
670
00:28:41,784 --> 00:28:43,703
You have this many
days and that's it.
671
00:28:43,828 --> 00:28:45,288
The exterior
672
00:28:45,288 --> 00:28:47,999
of the Bradbury Building
would now have to be built
673
00:28:48,124 --> 00:28:49,876
on a stage.
674
00:28:49,876 --> 00:28:52,128
Everything from the
Bradbury Building, railings,
675
00:28:52,253 --> 00:28:55,256
wrought iron, all
had to be reproduced.
676
00:28:55,256 --> 00:28:57,842
When he goes through
the ceiling of that,
677
00:28:57,967 --> 00:29:01,596
that cut is
where he's on top of my roof.
678
00:29:01,721 --> 00:29:05,016
You can't cut holes in
the roofs of locations.
679
00:29:05,141 --> 00:29:06,768
The
beauty of a stage
680
00:29:06,893 --> 00:29:08,686
is a controlled environment.
681
00:29:08,811 --> 00:29:10,271
Unless there's pigeons.
682
00:29:10,271 --> 00:29:13,149
Pigeons kept flying away.
683
00:29:13,149 --> 00:29:14,817
So they got some boards
684
00:29:14,942 --> 00:29:17,361
and nailed them over
the broken windows.
685
00:29:17,487 --> 00:29:19,906
But the pigeons were
still getting out.
686
00:29:20,031 --> 00:29:21,657
We took a cutting torch
687
00:29:21,657 --> 00:29:24,744
and we cut out a section
of the property fence.
688
00:29:24,869 --> 00:29:26,996
The next day we had
to take the fence
689
00:29:27,121 --> 00:29:28,873
before anyone got
there and take it back.
690
00:29:28,873 --> 00:29:31,709
And we had to weld
it back in place.
691
00:29:31,709 --> 00:29:33,711
But surely
all this manual labor
692
00:29:33,711 --> 00:29:36,798
and ingenuity would lead
to a big budget savings.
693
00:29:36,923 --> 00:29:39,801
We went over by
about seven weeks.
694
00:29:39,801 --> 00:29:41,344
Is that so bad?
695
00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:42,970
Must be expensive.
696
00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:44,680
Very.
697
00:29:44,806 --> 00:29:46,099
That
overage was about to come
698
00:29:46,224 --> 00:29:47,975
to Tandem's attention.
699
00:29:48,101 --> 00:29:51,437
{\an8}Endless arguments over how
the money was being spent
700
00:29:51,437 --> 00:29:53,356
{\an8}and what they were
getting for the money.
701
00:29:53,481 --> 00:29:56,234
Bud Yorkin was a very
bottom line kind of mentality.
702
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,987
Jerry Perenchio was a
billionaire entrepreneur.
703
00:29:59,987 --> 00:30:02,407
In the TV
world, Tandem was used
704
00:30:02,532 --> 00:30:05,368
to profitable productions
like "All In The Family."
705
00:30:05,368 --> 00:30:07,203
How much money is that?
706
00:30:07,203 --> 00:30:12,041
To go from that to a dark
artfully created world,
707
00:30:12,458 --> 00:30:14,293
it was probably just too
much for them to take.
708
00:30:14,293 --> 00:30:16,921
They probably short-circuited
when they saw all this stuff.
709
00:30:16,921 --> 00:30:18,423
Tandem stepped in.
710
00:30:18,548 --> 00:30:21,717
Must-have scenes would
be has-been scenes,
711
00:30:21,717 --> 00:30:23,845
like the one Joanna
Phillips was looking forward
712
00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:26,305
to performing with
her pet snake.
713
00:30:26,431 --> 00:30:28,766
{\an8}Darling, the snake
was going to meet me
714
00:30:28,766 --> 00:30:31,018
{\an8}and I would begin the dance.
715
00:30:31,018 --> 00:30:32,228
Legend has it,
716
00:30:32,228 --> 00:30:33,896
the scene was cut.
717
00:30:34,021 --> 00:30:35,815
It wasn't cut.
718
00:30:36,858 --> 00:30:38,735
It never got shot.
719
00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:40,278
They were running out of money.
720
00:30:40,278 --> 00:30:42,822
I didn't come on until
the end of the movie.
721
00:30:42,947 --> 00:30:44,907
It's just unfortunate.
722
00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:47,076
What would
end up getting shot
723
00:30:47,201 --> 00:30:49,120
was Joanna's character, Zhora
724
00:30:50,288 --> 00:30:52,290
with a strangely
accented Harrison.
725
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:55,418
Excuse me, Ms. Salome, can
I talk to you for a minute?
726
00:30:55,418 --> 00:30:58,963
Harrison's silly-- that
voice that he--
727
00:30:59,088 --> 00:31:02,091
I'm from the confidential
committee on moral abuses.
728
00:31:02,091 --> 00:31:03,760
I think I went to Ridley
729
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,179
and I said, "What the
is he doing?"
730
00:31:06,179 --> 00:31:08,264
Well, you'd be surprised
what a guy would go through
731
00:31:08,264 --> 00:31:10,933
to get a glimpse of
a beautiful body.
732
00:31:10,933 --> 00:31:12,935
Do I seduce this guy?
733
00:31:13,061 --> 00:31:16,939
Or he is such a nerd, I don't
want anything to do with him.
734
00:31:16,939 --> 00:31:19,150
Are you for real?
735
00:31:19,484 --> 00:31:22,987
The awkward reaction
was as real as Joanna's distress
736
00:31:22,987 --> 00:31:25,865
before her character's
final, glorious death.
737
00:31:26,365 --> 00:31:31,370
Joanna Cassidy runs through
the shopping mall storefront.
738
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:36,959
I must have slid
on all these rubber mats
739
00:31:37,126 --> 00:31:38,961
before I got to the glass.
740
00:31:38,961 --> 00:31:42,173
I was doing it so many
times and Harrison came on
741
00:31:42,173 --> 00:31:45,134
and he said, "Why are
you making her do this
742
00:31:45,259 --> 00:31:46,511
"so many times?"
743
00:31:46,636 --> 00:31:48,012
But
the tension on set
744
00:31:48,137 --> 00:31:50,431
was only on track
to get higher.
745
00:31:50,556 --> 00:31:52,892
There was a Director's
Guild strike looming.
746
00:31:52,892 --> 00:31:56,479
Michael Deeley decided that
we would shoot two weeks
747
00:31:56,604 --> 00:31:58,856
in one week, around the clock.
748
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:06,406
As "Blade Runner's"
production neared completion,
749
00:32:06,531 --> 00:32:08,366
the threat of a strike
drove its director
750
00:32:08,366 --> 00:32:10,910
to push the crew even harder.
751
00:32:10,910 --> 00:32:13,746
Ridley said that he
would continue working.
752
00:32:13,746 --> 00:32:16,791
His thought was that everybody
would continue working.
753
00:32:16,791 --> 00:32:20,002
That created more
animosity with the crew.
754
00:32:21,379 --> 00:32:23,005
- Harrison...
- Hiya, Deck.
755
00:32:23,131 --> 00:32:24,924
...said there was no way
756
00:32:24,924 --> 00:32:27,218
if they went on strike that he
was crossing the picket line.
757
00:32:27,343 --> 00:32:28,469
No choice, huh?
758
00:32:28,469 --> 00:32:30,138
No choice, pal.
759
00:32:30,847 --> 00:32:33,766
Guarantors,
Tandem, came forth with a swift
760
00:32:33,891 --> 00:32:36,144
and decisive response.
761
00:32:36,144 --> 00:32:40,940
Bud Yorkin had indicated
that if we had to shut down,
762
00:32:41,065 --> 00:32:42,900
{\an8}that they would just
take what they had
763
00:32:43,025 --> 00:32:45,111
{\an8}and see what they could
do with making the movie,
764
00:32:45,236 --> 00:32:48,030
{\an8}which didn't make
Ridley happy at all.
765
00:32:48,156 --> 00:32:49,991
Or
producer Michael Deeley
766
00:32:49,991 --> 00:32:51,534
who knew what was
going to happen
767
00:32:51,659 --> 00:32:53,202
if shooting wasn't completed.
768
00:32:53,202 --> 00:32:55,288
{\an8}And that's when
Michael took control
769
00:32:55,288 --> 00:32:58,082
{\an8}and said, "We are gonna
shoot two weeks in one week
770
00:32:58,207 --> 00:33:00,126
"and we're gonna shoot
around the clock."
771
00:33:00,251 --> 00:33:04,172
And that decision cost
the production $5 million.
772
00:33:06,174 --> 00:33:09,927
{\an8}Everyone was exhausted,
just exhausted.
773
00:33:09,927 --> 00:33:13,306
And that's when the completion
bond guarantors took over.
774
00:33:13,431 --> 00:33:16,851
They came on the set,
told Ridley that tomorrow
775
00:33:16,851 --> 00:33:18,311
was going to be the
last day of shooting.
776
00:33:18,436 --> 00:33:21,022
Whatever he didn't
get, he didn't get.
777
00:33:21,147 --> 00:33:24,859
Three crews went
to work at 6:00 AM
778
00:33:24,859 --> 00:33:28,571
that last day and we
worked about 36 hours.
779
00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:31,240
The only way to finish
was to continue shooting
780
00:33:31,365 --> 00:33:33,075
{\an8}'cause once you cut the camera,
781
00:33:33,075 --> 00:33:34,827
{\an8}then obviously that
was gonna be it.
782
00:33:34,952 --> 00:33:36,954
{\an8}They weren't gonna let
you come back another day.
783
00:33:37,455 --> 00:33:39,957
With Deckard's
desperate final scenes
784
00:33:39,957 --> 00:33:42,502
still to capture, art
director David Snyder
785
00:33:42,502 --> 00:33:45,254
started pulling
out all the stops.
786
00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:48,049
Harrison and I would get
on the lift and we'd go up
787
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:50,510
and I'd say, "Okay, reach
out here as far as you can."
788
00:33:50,510 --> 00:33:52,553
And he did. And I'd
take a piece of chalk
789
00:33:52,678 --> 00:33:54,472
and I'd make a mark there.
790
00:33:54,472 --> 00:33:57,016
I'd make another mark
all the way to the top.
791
00:33:57,141 --> 00:33:59,560
{\an8}One of my carpenters
cut holes in there.
792
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,523
{\an8}And then I got black rubber
tubing like for a hose
793
00:34:03,648 --> 00:34:05,399
and wrapped each hole.
794
00:34:05,399 --> 00:34:09,278
So him climbing there
looks pretty damn good
795
00:34:09,278 --> 00:34:11,989
and there's no evidence of that.
796
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,118
While Harrison
was getting a handle
797
00:34:15,243 --> 00:34:18,079
on David's handles, Rutger
Hauer's stunt double
798
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,581
was telling David to
take a running jump.
799
00:34:22,291 --> 00:34:25,294
He can't jump that
far, it's too far.
800
00:34:25,294 --> 00:34:27,296
So he said, "Move the set."
801
00:34:27,296 --> 00:34:30,174
So I got the teamsters
out there and forklifts
802
00:34:30,174 --> 00:34:32,552
and everything and we're
moving this building.
803
00:34:32,677 --> 00:34:35,430
Ridley shows up and he said,
"What are you doing?"
804
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:38,641
"The stunt guy says he
can't make the jump."
805
00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:42,395
And Rutger comes over to me
and says, "What's going on?"
806
00:34:42,395 --> 00:34:43,980
And he said, "I'll do it."
807
00:34:44,689 --> 00:34:47,650
Harrison Ford's double,
he did the jump first
808
00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:50,528
and when he jumped and
his body hit the wall,
809
00:34:50,528 --> 00:34:52,530
it sounded like a giant drum.
810
00:34:54,198 --> 00:34:55,908
He just made it.
811
00:34:55,908 --> 00:34:58,286
Then it was time for
Rutger to make the jump.
812
00:34:58,286 --> 00:35:01,164
I had to leave the
set. I was terrified.
813
00:35:01,914 --> 00:35:04,375
He ran along the roof.
814
00:35:05,376 --> 00:35:07,170
I couldn't believe it.
815
00:35:07,295 --> 00:35:09,672
When you see that jump, it's
all him 'cause he is athletic.
816
00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:13,384
Filming outside
on the Warner Bros. lot
817
00:35:13,509 --> 00:35:16,512
when the sun started rising,
the men with briefcases
818
00:35:16,637 --> 00:35:20,475
began arriving ready to
shut "Blade Runner" down.
819
00:35:20,475 --> 00:35:22,268
We were on the roof outside,
820
00:35:22,268 --> 00:35:24,520
{\an8}it's starting to be daylight
and they needed night.
821
00:35:24,645 --> 00:35:26,689
And the suits were all there.
822
00:35:26,689 --> 00:35:29,942
Michael Deeley said to
me, "We're not finished.
823
00:35:29,942 --> 00:35:32,987
"What can you do?" The
chainsaws came out.
824
00:35:32,987 --> 00:35:38,159
We literally cut the set
off and put it on a tractor.
825
00:35:38,451 --> 00:35:41,621
Moving the set
indoors to a sound stage.
826
00:35:41,621 --> 00:35:45,249
Moved the
rooftop onto a stage.
827
00:35:45,374 --> 00:35:47,293
So all of a sudden
the golf cart rolls up
828
00:35:47,293 --> 00:35:50,338
and the studio guy
is yelling at me
829
00:35:50,463 --> 00:35:52,548
and he said, "Da--, Da--
what are you doing?
830
00:35:52,673 --> 00:35:54,133
"You can't do that."
831
00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:57,178
We close the doors
and they lit it
832
00:35:57,178 --> 00:35:59,972
and we shot the end of
the movie on that stage.
833
00:35:59,972 --> 00:36:02,475
And I think I was there
from 5:00 or 6:00
834
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,354
the day before till
1:30 the next day.
835
00:36:06,354 --> 00:36:10,733
I've seen things you people
836
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,235
wouldn't believe.
837
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,070
He sure had.
838
00:36:14,195 --> 00:36:17,365
Nonetheless, Harrison
watched on with admiration
839
00:36:17,365 --> 00:36:21,285
as Rutger began delivering
his famous final monologue.
840
00:36:21,285 --> 00:36:24,247
All those moments
841
00:36:24,372 --> 00:36:28,084
will be lost in time,
842
00:36:30,461 --> 00:36:33,464
like tears
843
00:36:36,134 --> 00:36:37,718
in rain.
844
00:36:37,844 --> 00:36:40,221
Rutger wrote it and
brought it to the set
845
00:36:40,346 --> 00:36:41,556
and told Ridley about it.
846
00:36:41,681 --> 00:36:44,267
And Ridley said, "Action."
847
00:36:44,267 --> 00:36:46,144
Much
like his co-writer,
848
00:36:46,144 --> 00:36:49,147
David wasn't thrilled about
people riffing on his work.
849
00:36:49,147 --> 00:36:52,316
At the time it ruffled my
feathers because I'm a writer
850
00:36:52,316 --> 00:36:54,819
{\an8}and I don't like
people rewriting me.
851
00:36:54,819 --> 00:36:59,115
{\an8}But as time went by and I
suddenly saw the wisdom of it
852
00:36:59,115 --> 00:37:02,118
and realized, oh,
I was wrong there.
853
00:37:02,243 --> 00:37:03,828
It's a beautiful line.
854
00:37:03,953 --> 00:37:06,164
And the idea
of the dove being released?
855
00:37:06,164 --> 00:37:08,416
Was Rutger's idea.
856
00:37:08,416 --> 00:37:10,001
Batty holds a dove and
he dies as he lets it go
857
00:37:10,001 --> 00:37:11,210
like it's his soul.
858
00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:16,174
{\an8}A beautiful contribution
that is now an iconic moment.
859
00:37:16,299 --> 00:37:18,551
And like
a dove taking flight,
860
00:37:18,676 --> 00:37:21,679
peace was about to break
out in more ways than one.
861
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:25,600
Somehow a dinner was arranged
at the Rangoon Racket Club
862
00:37:25,725 --> 00:37:27,810
to meet this guy,
Hampton Fancher.
863
00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:31,606
And Hampton stood up and
embraced me immediately.
864
00:37:31,606 --> 00:37:33,066
And I fell in love with him.
865
00:37:33,191 --> 00:37:34,484
And he was the warmest,
866
00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:36,694
sweetest human being
I'd ever run into.
867
00:37:36,694 --> 00:37:39,322
And he's been a good
friend of mine ever since.
868
00:37:39,322 --> 00:37:40,573
New friends aside,
869
00:37:40,573 --> 00:37:42,700
production had now
gone over budget
870
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,204
triggering Tandem's
guarantor bond agreement.
871
00:37:46,204 --> 00:37:49,540
"Blade Runner" was now
legally their picture.
872
00:37:49,665 --> 00:37:52,668
Bud Yorkin and Jerry
Perenchio became the producers
873
00:37:52,668 --> 00:37:55,129
and fired everybody, except me.
874
00:37:55,129 --> 00:37:56,422
I don't work here anymore.
875
00:37:56,672 --> 00:37:58,424
Ridley and Michael
Deeley, you're fired.
876
00:37:58,549 --> 00:38:01,677
You went over the budget.
So now it's our film.
877
00:38:01,677 --> 00:38:04,430
And the simple
firing wouldn't keep Ridley
878
00:38:04,555 --> 00:38:06,057
from staying involved.
879
00:38:06,057 --> 00:38:09,352
They were absolutely enraged,
880
00:38:09,477 --> 00:38:10,645
but it didn't change anything.
881
00:38:10,645 --> 00:38:12,146
I mean they kept working.
882
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:15,233
But with the
new leadership in place,
883
00:38:15,233 --> 00:38:18,152
it fell to Katy to bring
Tandem, Scott and Deeley
884
00:38:18,152 --> 00:38:19,862
to the table.
885
00:38:19,987 --> 00:38:23,241
I was able to facilitate
the completion of the film
886
00:38:23,241 --> 00:38:26,244
by acting as a collaborator.
887
00:38:26,244 --> 00:38:30,581
{\an8}She made this thing not break
888
00:38:30,581 --> 00:38:33,292
{\an8}and there was a lot of
reasons for it to break.
889
00:38:33,292 --> 00:38:35,294
With the budget
ballooning and leadership
890
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:38,423
in flux, one thing
remained uncertain,
891
00:38:38,423 --> 00:38:40,258
what would audiences think?
892
00:38:40,383 --> 00:38:43,511
I was devastated.
893
00:38:46,722 --> 00:38:49,100
Post-production
duties on "Blade Runner"
894
00:38:49,225 --> 00:38:52,186
would be shared by
two rival factions,
895
00:38:52,186 --> 00:38:55,398
Tandem's Bud Yorkin
and Jerry Perenchio...
896
00:38:55,523 --> 00:38:58,234
{\an8}I think Bud Yorkin
and Jerry Perenchio
897
00:38:58,234 --> 00:38:59,819
{\an8}were expecting "Star Wars."
898
00:38:59,819 --> 00:39:01,446
Never.
899
00:39:01,571 --> 00:39:02,780
...and
producer/director team
900
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:04,824
Michael Deeley and Ridley Scott.
901
00:39:04,949 --> 00:39:08,119
{\an8}The notes are, this
movie's terrible, it's slow.
902
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:10,496
We need a narration,
this narration's no good.
903
00:39:10,496 --> 00:39:12,874
And Ridley, who had been
resistant up to that point,
904
00:39:12,874 --> 00:39:16,544
he was so worn down that he
tried to accommodate them.
905
00:39:16,544 --> 00:39:19,338
...that accommodation
was executing a note
906
00:39:19,338 --> 00:39:21,549
to create a happy ending.
907
00:39:21,549 --> 00:39:24,510
I didn't know
how long we'd have together.
908
00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:26,637
That was the last shot
I would ever have to
909
00:39:26,763 --> 00:39:29,599
deal with Harrison at all.
910
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,392
Just before I left I was like--
911
00:39:31,517 --> 00:39:33,644
May I ask you a
personal question?
912
00:39:34,437 --> 00:39:35,772
Sure.
913
00:39:35,897 --> 00:39:37,231
Why didn't you like me?
914
00:39:37,231 --> 00:39:39,150
Or what the hell?
915
00:39:39,275 --> 00:39:42,779
{\an8}And he was very cryptic and
he said, "I have no regrets."
916
00:39:42,904 --> 00:39:44,655
{\an8}What the
does that mean?
917
00:39:44,655 --> 00:39:48,159
But the bigger
question on everyone's minds was
918
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,203
would audiences
like "Blade Runner"
919
00:39:50,203 --> 00:39:52,955
when it hit theaters
in the summer of 1982?
920
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:54,874
{\an8}When it came out,
it sort of bombed.
921
00:39:54,874 --> 00:39:58,377
{\an8}I mean people didn't
really understand it.
922
00:39:58,503 --> 00:40:01,756
At the screening I felt like
I was giving birth in public.
923
00:40:01,756 --> 00:40:05,593
The summer of '82 saw
a bumper crop of blockbusters
924
00:40:05,718 --> 00:40:08,596
making big profits,
but not "Blade Runner,"
925
00:40:08,721 --> 00:40:10,723
a critical disappointment.
926
00:40:10,723 --> 00:40:13,601
It barely generated a
profit of 32 million
927
00:40:13,726 --> 00:40:16,521
from a $28 million budget.
928
00:40:16,521 --> 00:40:18,523
I guess you're through, huh?
929
00:40:18,523 --> 00:40:20,233
Finished.
930
00:40:20,358 --> 00:40:22,652
Along came
the miracle of home video.
931
00:40:23,694 --> 00:40:25,696
It started to gain traction.
932
00:40:25,822 --> 00:40:28,825
{\an8}But it was an
accidental screening in 1990
933
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:31,577
that would give "Blade
Runner" the kiss of life.
934
00:40:31,577 --> 00:40:35,164
The 70 millimeter
film festival put it on.
935
00:40:35,289 --> 00:40:37,542
And they have no idea that what
they have is the work print.
936
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:39,544
It's not this crazy
alternative version,
937
00:40:39,544 --> 00:40:41,254
it's the rough cut, essentially.
938
00:40:41,254 --> 00:40:43,297
That blew people's minds.
939
00:40:43,297 --> 00:40:46,592
And it goes to the Nuart
over in Santa Monica.
940
00:40:46,592 --> 00:40:47,885
And it sold out.
941
00:40:47,885 --> 00:40:49,554
It started the ball rolling.
942
00:40:49,554 --> 00:40:51,722
And
did that ball roll,
943
00:40:51,848 --> 00:40:54,642
replicating itself
into four iterations.
944
00:40:54,642 --> 00:40:57,478
The US theatrical cut,
which comes out in June.
945
00:40:57,478 --> 00:41:00,273
Then eventually you had
the international cut,
946
00:41:00,273 --> 00:41:02,442
{\an8}but then because the
work print leaked out,
947
00:41:02,442 --> 00:41:05,361
{\an8}it caused such excitement
that Warner Bros. decided,
948
00:41:05,486 --> 00:41:06,904
{\an8}well, let's put out
a director's cut.
949
00:41:06,904 --> 00:41:09,657
But Ridley was busy so
he gave the general note
950
00:41:09,657 --> 00:41:12,744
of take out the voice-over,
take off the happy ending
951
00:41:12,869 --> 00:41:15,788
and put in this unicorn
dream sequence that I wanted
952
00:41:15,913 --> 00:41:19,417
to put in that suggests that
Deckard might be a replicant.
953
00:41:19,542 --> 00:41:23,296
They put that out in 1992
as the director's cut.
954
00:41:23,421 --> 00:41:27,675
But 10 years later we began
doing the true final definitive
955
00:41:27,675 --> 00:41:29,343
director's cut of the film.
956
00:41:30,762 --> 00:41:33,264
It had over
a hundred picture changes,
957
00:41:33,264 --> 00:41:35,683
some subtle, some sledgehammer.
958
00:41:35,808 --> 00:41:37,477
When he lets the dove go,
959
00:41:37,602 --> 00:41:41,397
it cuts from rainy moody
Noir "Blade Runner" world
960
00:41:41,397 --> 00:41:46,527
to bright blue sky and it
just does not make any sense.
961
00:41:47,904 --> 00:41:49,489
So we thought, well
let's try to do a more
962
00:41:49,489 --> 00:41:50,865
"Blade Runner"-ized
version of that angle.
963
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,202
The final cut's my favorite.
964
00:41:54,327 --> 00:41:56,329
I mean it's Ridley's cut.
965
00:41:56,454 --> 00:41:58,748
The only movie of "Blade
Runner" is the final cut.
966
00:41:58,873 --> 00:42:00,100
{\an8}Everything else to
me is a work print.
967
00:42:01,125 --> 00:42:03,795
Despite
its now cult status,
968
00:42:03,795 --> 00:42:04,962
was it all worth it?
969
00:42:04,962 --> 00:42:06,923
I said if you had three words,
970
00:42:07,048 --> 00:42:09,467
how would you describe your
experience on "Blade Runner?"
971
00:42:09,467 --> 00:42:12,387
Harrison Ford said,
"a total bitch."
972
00:42:13,638 --> 00:42:15,598
But not
bad enough for Harrison
973
00:42:15,598 --> 00:42:20,353
to reprise his role 35 years
and many great movies later.
974
00:42:20,353 --> 00:42:22,021
I know.
975
00:42:22,021 --> 00:42:25,942
How did that movie so fraught,
that movie should have
976
00:42:26,067 --> 00:42:28,903
had a nervous breakdown
every minute of its life.
977
00:42:29,028 --> 00:42:32,698
But you take Harrison
out of the equation,
978
00:42:32,824 --> 00:42:34,742
the painting is gone.
979
00:42:34,742 --> 00:42:37,412
You take Ridley out, of
course, it's not even there.
980
00:42:37,537 --> 00:42:41,416
Harrison is indivisible
with "Blade Runner."
981
00:42:41,416 --> 00:42:43,835
And it wasn't
Harrison Ford, movie hero.
982
00:42:43,835 --> 00:42:46,045
It was-- Rick Deckard
is a character
983
00:42:46,045 --> 00:42:49,048
that's very different than
Indiana Jones or Han Solo.
984
00:42:49,048 --> 00:42:51,634
It was good to prove
that he had a range
985
00:42:51,759 --> 00:42:54,387
beyond those types of movies.
986
00:42:54,387 --> 00:42:56,848
At age 40,
Harrison already had
987
00:42:56,973 --> 00:43:00,435
an impressive back
catalog, from the 1950s
988
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,603
to a galaxy far, far away.
989
00:43:04,063 --> 00:43:06,482
But while Ford's star
was far from top,
990
00:43:06,607 --> 00:43:08,609
after venturing into the future,
991
00:43:08,609 --> 00:43:11,738
his next role would pull
him back into the past.
992
00:43:11,863 --> 00:43:13,823
This movie's very dark
993
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and I've got
exhibitors are calling
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saying kids are
peeing in their seats.
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Harrison's
insistence on doing
his own stunts
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- his own way...
- He hurt himself to the point
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where he was really in pain.
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...would bring him
down to earth with a bump.
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The bad news is he
needs until August 8th
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to get back into shape.
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