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-[indistinct chatter]
-[hands clapping]
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[laughing]
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[interviewer]
So, can we, uh...
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-Thank you.
-...can go backwards?
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Nice, I can see the camera.
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Uh, yes, yes.
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[interviewer] Backwards
to the initial inspiration
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for doing the first...
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I thought you were gonna
try to hypnotize me.
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-[interviewer] ... Burning Man.
-Let's go back, Larry. Go back.
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[John Law]
I never expected to hate Larry.
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You have to understand,
he was a 42-year-old man
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when I met him
who had never paid taxes.
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He didn't exist
in the real world.
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And I thought,
how did you do that?
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I was impressed.
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But he didn't really
have a real job, either.
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B-Burning Man was--
was it for him.
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It's how he got
his standing in the world.
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In the early days,
Michael Mikel, Larry Harvey,
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and I were the legal owners
of Burning Man Partners.
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-[burner] How's it going, John?
-It's going very well.
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[crowd cheering]
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The early Burning Man,
when we were on the playa
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with, you know, fewer than
a thousand people,
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you didn't know
what was gonna happen.
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It was completely free.
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[crowd cheering and howling]
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[Larry Harvey]
In my imagination,
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I thought the whole world
was going to come.
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[crowd cheering and whistling]
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[John]
Larry said so many times,
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"Oh, we're gonna get
a million people on the playa."
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Are you out
of your fucking mind?
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The fucking event
went too fast.
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We were not a professional
event organization.
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[flames whooshing]
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I warned him repeatedly,
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"People are gonna die."
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[wind gusting]
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[♪ ethereal music playing]
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[♪ music swelling]
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♪♪
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[newscaster 1]
For the second year in a row,
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Burning Man is canceled.
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[newscaster 2]
It's usually the busiest time
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of the year
in Northern Washoe County.
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It's been estimated
that Burning Man
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brings in more
than $60 million
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for the state economy
every year.
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The loss of that revenue
for the second straight year
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is really not good
for the town
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that sits closest to the site
of the annual festival.
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[newscaster 3]
Now, even though the event
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is not officially
going on this year,
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those that live here
in Gerlach tell me
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they still expect
to see plenty of Burners.
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[Joel Briggs]
When the announcement came,
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"Hey, Burning Man's canceled,"
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within 20 minutes,
Plan B was executed.
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There you go.
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Alright, Lofax, you're gonna
introduce everybody, correct?
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Make sure we're
following the agenda.
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Do we have an agenda?
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My real name's Joel Briggs.
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Uh, everybody calls me
Sergeant Pepper on the playa.
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My occupation, I do work
for the Department of Defense.
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I... do risk analysis
and so forth.
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1996 was my first year.
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And then I went again
in 1999, 2001, 2002,
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'04, '06, '08, '09, '10, and
'11,
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'12, skipped '15, '16,
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'17 ended up
going to Afghanistan,
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and then '18 I missed,
went to '19.
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Those are my burner years.
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Originally, Plan B
was never a plan.
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It was just the name
of our camp.
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We had about 30 people.
That 30 invited 30.
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Those 30 invited 30,
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and within a week,
we were at 3,000.
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Very quickly,
a decision was made,
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'Hey, we're going down a path.
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We've got to be very careful."
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So, I actually got on the phone
with an attorney, said,
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"This is what's going on."
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She laid out the ground rules.
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"Do not set this in motion.
Do not say this.
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Do not collect dues."
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I just want to kinda recap...
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Very quickly, a decision
was made to structure it
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in such a way
that there's no power.
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Nobody has-- Nobody runs it.
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Because there was fear that
Burning Man would shut us down.
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I mean, that was always
in our back, and...
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you know, every day, I'd get up
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and I, I would go, like,
to my email like,
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"Ooh, is it there?"
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[Marian Goodell]
The first time I saw a link
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-to Plan B...
-Wow.
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...I was like,
"Ooh, this is cheeky."
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But the biggest fear was that
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if it went really, really wrong
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and people
were injured and hurt,
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that it would affect our future
on the Black Rock Desert.
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[Power Surge]
Now, it's unclear just how many
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brave souls are gonna
venture to Black Rock Desert,
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but there are over 400...
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After the official video
from Marian came out,
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there was like a divide
in the burner community
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for a few months.
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Everyone was very nervous
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about making a super-spreader
event of COVID.
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People made special requests
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to the Bureau
of Land Management,
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and the response
from the federal government
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was "No" to almost
every request.
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No structures may be built,
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no burning of structures,
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no lasers, no nudity this year.
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They don't want
Porta Potties to be serviced.
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People are gonna really
have to pick up their poop.
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[Lofax]
The idea was to have a map,
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who's gonna come on playa.
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And the map grew very fast.
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[Joel]
Everybody was going to Plan B
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for the information,
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and, uh, it-- it just turned out
to be that way.
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I mean, we were very factual.
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[Lofax]
"You may die. This is Plan B.
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"The ticket holder, you,
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"assume all risk
of property loss
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"or damage, mental breakdown,
serious injury, or death.
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"This document
entitles you to nothing.
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"You will get nothing.
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"You must bring enough food,
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"water, sunscreen, toilet paper,
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and poop buckets to survive."
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A lot was riding
on our shoulders,
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especially when we got
to that 15,000 mark
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on-- on the Facebook page.
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I'm like, "Oh, if this fails...
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we are doomed."
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[Marian] There was
a lot of interest very fast.
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And if you're not careful,
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you could have a disaster,
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like in 1996.
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[♪ tense music continues]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Stuart Mangrum]
1996 was the first year
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that we had a Burning Man
theme.
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The theme was "The Inferno."
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[laughing]
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[actor] Suffering from
a recent bankruptcy?
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HELCO can help you rebuild
your credit in this world
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and the next with our easy
qualifying soul debit
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ATM check guarantee card.
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[Stuart] We created
this whole mythic structure
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where Burning Man was going
to be purchased by HELCO,
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a satanic corporation.
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One thin soul.
That's all it costs.
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And best of all, you won't
even notice it's missing.
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When was the last time you...
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It referenced general concerns
about the event selling out
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and becoming a,
a mainstream consumer event,
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which were real.
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We're good. We're good.
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Lord of Evil. How you doing?
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[Larry]
Well, I first got the idea
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because there were people
coming out to the desert artists
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who were-- who were in effect
doing hell
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in one form or another,
they're blowing things up.
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Extravagantly
destructive spectacles.
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That um-- And I thought perhaps
we should--
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We should channel this, uh,
hellish energy,
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uh, it-- and--
and make it mean something.
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[people chattering]
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Essentially, a hell is a place
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where one confronts
whatever one has banished
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from one's world.
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[evil cackling]
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So, this year,
our theme is The Inferno.
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And whatever you have,
uh, cast out of your world
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or cast out of yourself,
there rises up to confront you.
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[motorcycle engine rumbling]
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[♪ foreboding music playing]
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[John] A couple nights
before the event,
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a guy I knew pretty well
was on his motorcycle
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out in the desert,
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playing chicken with a van
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coming on straight ahead
on the van.
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And, uh, he miscalculated
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'cause he was pretty high
and drunk.
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And, uh, he impacted the van...
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[motorcycle zooming]
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...doing 70 miles an hour,
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and he was decapitated
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by the side-view mirror.
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The death of Michael Furey
was hard on all of us.
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For John,
it was definitely harder.
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Here's my friend, decapitated,
lying on the desert.
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[indistinct chatter]
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They'd put a coat
over his head.
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And the Pershing County
Sheriffs show up.
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-[sirens wailing]
-And I'm there helping them
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and trying to do
whatever we can to--
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You know, they have
to get an ambulance
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to come and take the body away.
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So, we were there
for many hours.
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[sirens continue wailing]
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A little bit-- I don't know,
like 3:00 in the morning,
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Larry shows up.
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And, uh, he wanted to know
if it was before midnight
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that my friend died...
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so that when the press
found out about it,
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it could officially be said
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that it didn't happen
at the Burning Man event.
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It happened before it.
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Like, get the fuck out of here.
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[♪ tense dramatic music playing]
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[Larry] John is a stalwart
and full of passion
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and thinks continually
about others and their welfare.
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If we hadn't had that, uh,
bone in our bodies,
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this thing would have
degenerated quickly
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into a truly
anarchist society.
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Larry's way of processing
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was think about it
from 5,000 feet,
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when John was on the ground.
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[John] It was terrible,
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and the people who
dealt with it
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were traumatized by it.
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So, that's how '96 kicked off.
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You're coming to the performance
tonight, right?
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[camera operator]
Uh, yes, absolutely.
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-Or shooting it.
-[camera operator] Yes.
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[♪ rock music playing]
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[John] The conceit
of this performance piece
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was that HELCO,
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this giant
international corporation,
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was trying to buy Burning Man.
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We built a bunch
of different constructions,
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which were parodies
of American companies.
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[♪ intense music playing]
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Including a 32-foot office
tower that said HELCO on it.
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[burner]
No smoking here.
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No smoking zone.
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This is Cal dousing things
with gasoline.
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[crowd cheering and whistling]
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[♪ intense music continues]
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-[flames whooshing]
-[crowd shouting]
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Evil lurks amongst you!
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There are those amongst you
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who are not spontaneous.
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Those amongst you
who are not creative.
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Hard though
it may be to believe,
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you know who you are.
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[John] We had wired up
the, uh, top of the tower
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with a giant pile
of explosives,
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and I dropped
a road flare into it.
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[loud pop, flare sizzling]
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[explosives booming]
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[crowd cheering]
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It was awesome.
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[glass shattering]
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But it was
pretty fucking stupid.
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[crowd cheering]
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That's the whole point
of this place, right?
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To be able to be doing stuff
that pushed your boundaries.
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[burner 1]
Move back as far as possible.
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-We're too close.
-[burner 2] Push back, please.
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Push back, please.
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Push back, please.
Push back, please.
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-[flames whooshing]
-[people shouting]
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[Stuart]
'96 was a bit of a disaster.
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We had pretty much
a breakdown of civic authority.
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No civic responsibility.
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[crowd clamoring]
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We had people
just running around
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and burning everything,
other people's art.
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It really turned into kind of
a scene from hell.
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Live every Burning Man like
it was your last Burning Man
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because it just
might fucking be.
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[laughing]
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-[explosion booming]
-[people shouting]
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[sirens wailing]
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[John] The next horrible,
horrible accident,
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it was some
drunken drugged-out guy
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in a stolen car
290
00:12:08,937 --> 00:12:11,856
rolled over a tent
with two kids in it,
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you know, 3:00 in the morning
and injured them severely.
292
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And I can't just say, "Oh, well,
people get hurt at events."
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You know, "That's how it goes."
294
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And you just, like, "You have
your insurance for that."
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Blah, blah, blah.
296
00:12:23,368 --> 00:12:24,827
That's not how I operate,
you know?
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I don't want to be...
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involved in creating something
where shit like that happens.
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[crowd clamoring]
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The fucking event was too big.
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It grew too fast.
302
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It was going
to blow up in our face.
303
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And I said so, repeatedly.
304
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Larry just kept going.
305
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He just kept going.
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[Larry]
We're about to start something
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that's gonna
shake the world up.
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He was relentless about that.
Relentless about that.
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[Marian]
Burning Man was on the cover
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of Wired magazine.
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The word was out.
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[John]
We didn't have the resources
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to deal with a real festival
with 10,000 people.
314
00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:05,702
We simply didn't have
the resources.
315
00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:09,580
And my intent was to not grow it
so fast, take it slower,
316
00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:11,958
not be in a fucking rush to get
a million people on the playa.
317
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,543
Do you even know
what you're talking about?
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00:13:13,584 --> 00:13:14,627
He didn't do logistics.
319
00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:16,546
He had no idea
what was involved.
320
00:13:16,546 --> 00:13:19,090
We'll do it when it's safe
so that we don't kill anybody.
321
00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:20,633
You're not dealing
with the medics.
322
00:13:20,675 --> 00:13:22,927
You're not dealing
with the law enforcement.
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00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:24,137
I was.
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[Harley K. Dubois]
Larry was always trying
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to create his family that
he never really had.
326
00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:31,227
You know, he was adopted,
and so Burning Man
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was an outward expression
of his desire
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to bring people together
and create community.
329
00:13:36,607 --> 00:13:38,484
[Larry]
I was raised within a family
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that didn't communicate
within itself
331
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and didn't communicate
with the world outside of it
332
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in a state
of fairly radical isolation
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from the rest of humanity.
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00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:49,120
And-- and thought from
a very early age
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that there was something
terribly wrong.
336
00:13:51,622 --> 00:13:53,624
And... [stammering]
337
00:13:53,665 --> 00:13:55,960
Uh, and came to realize
as I grew older,
338
00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:58,755
that-- that, in fact,
my state was not unique.
339
00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:01,799
We are ruthless
and looking for a community.
340
00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,926
Tremendous desire for it.
341
00:14:03,926 --> 00:14:07,263
I suppose my idea
was a childish and crude one.
342
00:14:07,305 --> 00:14:08,431
You know?
I always sort of dreamt
343
00:14:08,473 --> 00:14:10,933
of doing some creative thing
344
00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:12,518
that all the neighbors,
all these people
345
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,271
that I've-- we're never
even allowed to know, really,
346
00:14:15,313 --> 00:14:18,483
would-- might all gather
somehow in the fields,
347
00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:21,694
you know, together around
some wonderful thing.
348
00:14:21,736 --> 00:14:23,154
Soulful expression
of themselves.
349
00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,698
It touched a lot of people.
I'll give him that.
350
00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:29,285
Is it worth that?
There's a trade-off there.
351
00:14:29,327 --> 00:14:31,454
-[fireworks popping]
-[crowd cheering]
352
00:14:31,496 --> 00:14:33,956
[Marian]
I remember leaving in 1996
353
00:14:33,998 --> 00:14:35,833
and planning to never
come back.
354
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,293
It didn't feel safe.
355
00:14:37,335 --> 00:14:39,962
[John]
It was not sustainable anymore.
356
00:14:40,004 --> 00:14:41,297
I'm like, "I will never work
with this guy again.
357
00:14:41,339 --> 00:14:42,340
I am fucking done."
358
00:14:42,382 --> 00:14:45,551
[Marian]
John and others saw that.
359
00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:47,845
[John]
It was obvious in '96,
360
00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:51,182
there was a major
metaphysical fork in the road.
361
00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:52,975
The event was either gonna end,
362
00:14:53,017 --> 00:14:54,811
or, if it continued,
363
00:14:54,811 --> 00:14:57,021
it was gonna have to have
a bureaucratic infrastructure.
364
00:14:57,063 --> 00:14:59,482
And, you know,
I couldn't be part of that.
365
00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:02,151
So, that was my swan song
at Burning Man.
366
00:15:02,193 --> 00:15:03,528
[burner] Are we done?
367
00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,530
[Harley] In a sense,
they came to represent
368
00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:08,116
the struggle of Burning Man
in that era.
369
00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,788
Do we want to remain
underground and stay free?
370
00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:16,666
Or are we building a movement
that could change the world?
371
00:15:16,707 --> 00:15:18,501
-[crowd cheering]
-[bell jingling]
372
00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:21,003
[camera operator] What does
Burning Man mean to you?
373
00:15:21,045 --> 00:15:22,713
-Um...
-[people chattering]
374
00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,883
Death, destruction, mayhem,
and lots and lots of fun.
375
00:15:27,051 --> 00:15:28,886
[Stuart]
If you were a participant...
376
00:15:30,263 --> 00:15:33,933
you probably didn't really
realize that much of anything
377
00:15:33,975 --> 00:15:36,853
happened between '96 and '97.
378
00:15:36,894 --> 00:15:38,896
Burning Man was still awesome.
379
00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:41,899
But if you were an organizer
or a volunteer,
380
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:47,071
you were caught
in a very hard turning point.
381
00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:50,074
And a whole lot of people
walked away and never came back.
382
00:15:53,327 --> 00:15:54,620
[Sgt. Nathan Carmichael]
So this year,
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00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:55,913
non-festival.
384
00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,040
Uh, again, we're...
385
00:15:58,082 --> 00:15:59,250
playing it by year.
386
00:16:00,585 --> 00:16:01,627
We got a week to go.
387
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,423
I don't think anybody
knows what's going on.
388
00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:08,885
The federal government
has allowed this to happen,
389
00:16:08,926 --> 00:16:10,553
and again, we plan
for the worst
390
00:16:10,595 --> 00:16:11,846
and hope for the best.
391
00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,558
[Ranger Crow]
Gerlach is the closest town
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00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,643
to the site of Black Rock City,
393
00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:20,771
and it has been a love-hate
relationship at times.
394
00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:25,067
Burning Man is now the main
source of revenue for the town.
395
00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:27,612
It's also the main
source of chaos.
396
00:16:29,614 --> 00:16:33,618
Welcome to, uh, Operation
Non-Event, 2021.
397
00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:35,953
I'm Crow. I'm the Ranger
Operations Manager.
398
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:38,414
Our main thing here
is to address the concerns
399
00:16:38,456 --> 00:16:40,249
of the people
who live in Gerlach.
400
00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:42,919
[speaker 1] I don't think
there's any preparation
401
00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:44,921
because of the fact
that there's no Burning Man,
402
00:16:44,962 --> 00:16:47,131
so that everybody exiting,
403
00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:48,966
that might become a huge issue
404
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:52,762
and might need emergency
ranger help in that situation.
405
00:16:52,803 --> 00:16:55,264
[Crow] We will have
approximately 60 rangers
406
00:16:55,306 --> 00:16:56,641
stationed in Gerlach,
407
00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:58,809
or housed in Gerlach,
I should say.
408
00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,646
[speaker 2] Part of the
community's largest concern
409
00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:04,440
is people defecating
behind their house,
410
00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:06,817
in their front lawn,
in a variety of places
411
00:17:06,858 --> 00:17:08,986
because there are no
Porta Potties in town this year.
412
00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,906
[♪ quirky music playing]
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00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,118
[Tony Diebold]
When I came here in 1971,
414
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,329
it was a lot different then.
415
00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:20,665
It was a little more quiet
than it is now.
416
00:17:20,705 --> 00:17:22,666
[burner 1] I'm going now
to try to find a spigot
417
00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:23,960
to fill our water jug up.
418
00:17:24,001 --> 00:17:25,502
[Tony]
Then the Burners came.
419
00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,463
-[burner 2] Burning Man gas.
-[Tony] They changed things.
420
00:17:27,505 --> 00:17:30,383
[♪ quirky music continues]
421
00:17:30,424 --> 00:17:33,636
[Sylvia Fascio]
In '91, they had 200 attendees.
422
00:17:33,678 --> 00:17:35,137
They were making a mess.
423
00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:36,639
There were no Porta Potties.
424
00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:38,391
They were going to the bathroom
out in the desert.
425
00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:43,354
[Brandy Wilber]
It's like a little
mini circus up here
426
00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:44,730
when Burning Man
is going on.
427
00:17:44,772 --> 00:17:46,816
Okay, there's three
more bags, Terry.
428
00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:48,985
-[Terry] Alright.
-And I'll get your tortillas.
429
00:17:49,026 --> 00:17:52,196
I'll get my big, strong,
muscly guy here to help ya.
430
00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:55,074
The rumors are so widespread.
431
00:17:55,866 --> 00:17:58,327
I've had 10,000, 15,000, 20,000.
432
00:17:58,369 --> 00:18:00,371
Somebody tried
to tell me 30,000.
433
00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:02,206
Nobody knows.
434
00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,791
That's what's making
this year hard.
435
00:18:04,709 --> 00:18:08,671
This is one idea
that I've just picked up
436
00:18:08,713 --> 00:18:10,047
from the Plan B Facebook group,
437
00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:11,841
is people wanting,
you know, five-gallon buckets.
438
00:18:11,882 --> 00:18:15,845
I have 400 five-gallon buckets
underneath the store.
439
00:18:15,886 --> 00:18:17,179
So, if nothing else,
440
00:18:17,221 --> 00:18:18,681
if people just want to buy
some five-gallon buckets
441
00:18:18,723 --> 00:18:21,767
and figure out how to perch
themselves on the edge of it,
442
00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:22,935
fine with me.
443
00:18:24,061 --> 00:18:27,356
I kind of feel like BLM
should have found a way
444
00:18:27,398 --> 00:18:29,942
to allow Porta Potty
companies to come out
445
00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:33,279
because I feel like
it's going to be a shit show.
446
00:18:33,321 --> 00:18:35,948
Literally a shit show.
447
00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:40,786
[Tony] If this experiment
goes off well,
448
00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:43,748
they're gonna say, "No, we
don't need the organization."
449
00:18:44,665 --> 00:18:46,292
What happens
out there this year
450
00:18:46,334 --> 00:18:48,836
will be a maker or breaker
for Burning Man.
451
00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:55,760
♪♪
452
00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:00,306
Hello, Burning Man community.
453
00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:03,559
We will not be collaborating
454
00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:05,436
on Black Rock City
in the desert.
455
00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,480
[chiming]
456
00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,566
But we look forward
to inviting you
457
00:19:10,608 --> 00:19:12,485
to come to the virtual
Burning Man.
458
00:19:12,526 --> 00:19:14,278
[computerized voice]
Calling all virtual explorers,
459
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,114
adventurers,
swashbucklers and Burners.
460
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:20,117
[Marian] Black Rock City
is in the multiverse.
461
00:19:20,618 --> 00:19:23,621
I truly believe that
this gathering is reckless,
462
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,749
so we're pushing the platform
463
00:19:26,749 --> 00:19:29,126
to be a world-class place
464
00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:32,088
for the global community
to gather.
465
00:19:32,129 --> 00:19:33,964
Everything is there,
466
00:19:34,715 --> 00:19:36,634
but it's in the digital dust.
467
00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:40,805
At BRCvr, you can dream,
create, and elevate,
468
00:19:40,846 --> 00:19:43,641
go as far as your
imagination takes you.
469
00:19:45,810 --> 00:19:47,436
Hey, I'm Lindsay.
470
00:19:47,478 --> 00:19:49,146
I was planning to go
to Burning Man
471
00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:51,190
physically in 2021.
472
00:19:51,232 --> 00:19:54,819
This was supposed to be
my first year on playa,
473
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:56,320
physical playa,
474
00:19:56,362 --> 00:19:59,115
and then Burning Man
got canceled.
475
00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:01,033
I have never gone physically,
476
00:20:01,075 --> 00:20:04,036
but I've been so heavily
involved with the virtual one.
477
00:20:04,078 --> 00:20:06,372
I know it like the back
of my hand at this point.
478
00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:10,626
I give people tours
and teach them
479
00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:12,503
how to walk and fly
as an avatar.
480
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,672
Oh, wow.
481
00:20:15,756 --> 00:20:18,884
Being around other people
in VR,
482
00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,469
I became very close to them.
483
00:20:20,511 --> 00:20:21,679
Alicia!
484
00:20:22,346 --> 00:20:23,472
Oh my God!
485
00:20:23,514 --> 00:20:25,057
[laughing] Let's go.
486
00:20:25,099 --> 00:20:26,892
[Alicia] Yeah.
487
00:20:26,934 --> 00:20:28,519
[Lindsay Handren]
We haven't met in person.
488
00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:31,021
We've spent a year together
on Zoom and in VR.
489
00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:35,526
Hopefully, we can at least
spend Burn Night together.
490
00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:40,990
Being in, like,
an open and a loving space,
491
00:20:41,031 --> 00:20:43,075
it's something
I really need right now.
492
00:20:46,454 --> 00:20:50,291
But I'm not brave enough
to do the Renegade Burn.
493
00:20:51,876 --> 00:20:53,586
Where did everybody else go?
494
00:20:59,717 --> 00:21:01,594
[Ray Christian] Initially,
I was gonna go solo.
495
00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:02,928
You know, I'm a commander.
496
00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:05,097
I'm gonna go by myself.
That's my expectation.
497
00:21:05,139 --> 00:21:06,515
I don't know
any of these people.
498
00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,018
People started
to mention to me,
499
00:21:09,059 --> 00:21:12,062
there's a regional group
out there called Rootpile.
500
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,273
Like... where? In this area?
501
00:21:14,315 --> 00:21:16,025
-Hey, man.
-What's up, man?
502
00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:17,067
What's up?
503
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:18,527
[Ray]
When I heard about the camp,
504
00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,696
I think I picked up
bluegrass and moonshine
505
00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:21,697
and I go, "Oh shit."
506
00:21:21,739 --> 00:21:23,240
[both laugh]
507
00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:27,036
You gonna have a lot of stories,
I promise you.
508
00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:28,788
We're a hillbilly camp
509
00:21:28,829 --> 00:21:32,041
because I wanted to take
this culture out there
510
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:34,210
to show them to people
because they all think we're
511
00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:36,295
a bunch of racist rednecks,
everybody that lives here.
512
00:21:36,337 --> 00:21:38,047
-[Ray] Right, right, right.
-And not everybody is.
513
00:21:38,088 --> 00:21:39,882
And that's what I wanted to show
by taking it out there.
514
00:21:39,924 --> 00:21:41,926
So, we're not taking any
Confederate flags to the playa?
515
00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:42,968
[Fixxer] Nope.
516
00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:44,220
[laughing]
517
00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:45,805
[Ray] But I found out
518
00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:47,932
that the official Burning Man
was canceled.
519
00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:51,644
I heard something
about the Renegade Burn,
520
00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:54,855
but, uh, I don't know if
it's still a good time to go.
521
00:22:03,239 --> 00:22:04,907
[Sheriff Jerry Allen]
Burning Man does a great thing
522
00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:06,575
when they bring
the city together.
523
00:22:06,575 --> 00:22:08,327
They have landmarks.
They have streets.
524
00:22:08,369 --> 00:22:09,411
They have street signs.
525
00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:11,247
So, if we have to respond
526
00:22:11,288 --> 00:22:13,165
to a call for service,
we know where it's at.
527
00:22:13,207 --> 00:22:15,417
[ranger] Anyone can transmit
on ham in an emergency.
528
00:22:15,459 --> 00:22:16,961
[Jerry] This year, all we have
529
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:18,712
is the great expanse
of the desert.
530
00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:20,965
Hit the button and hope
someone hears you.
531
00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:22,466
-[Jerry] What could go wrong?
-[ranger] Let's see.
532
00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:23,843
[Jerry] I guess anything.
533
00:22:23,884 --> 00:22:25,427
After this, we have
a "stop the bleeding" course.
534
00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:28,764
[Crow] If it's like, "Holy shit,
I need an ambulance right now,"
535
00:22:28,806 --> 00:22:30,432
they're asking
for resources from Gerlach,
536
00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:32,101
like, this is serious.
537
00:22:32,142 --> 00:22:33,811
We'll be monitoring all of this.
538
00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:37,106
There's a lot of different
concerns we have out there,
539
00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:39,191
but personal safety
being number one.
540
00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,986
And there have been deaths.
541
00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:44,572
[Nathan] There's a mobile jail
we bring out here.
542
00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,950
We're just gonna try
to keep the peace
543
00:22:47,950 --> 00:22:51,579
and make sure everybody goes
home safe, including ourselves.
544
00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:54,582
[♪ dramatic music playing]
545
00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:03,841
♪♪
546
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,193
[burner] Hey! Welcome home!
547
00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:26,030
[excited chatter]
548
00:23:26,947 --> 00:23:30,576
Let's go on a little
scooter ride here at Plan B,
549
00:23:30,618 --> 00:23:31,952
Black Rock Desert.
550
00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:36,749
[burner 1] Fucking '21.
Fucking Renegade Burning Man.
551
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:39,209
Dude, no other place
I'd rather be.
552
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,171
[burner 2]
Ethan, are you ready, man?
553
00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:43,881
I think we're about to roll.
554
00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:45,591
-We ride.
-We ride!
555
00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:49,219
[♪ upbeat music playing]
556
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:52,389
[indistinct chatter]
557
00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:55,351
-[crowd] Whoo!
-Hi.
558
00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:57,269
[excited chatter]
559
00:24:00,230 --> 00:24:02,232
[burner howling]
560
00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:05,444
[chuckling]
561
00:24:06,904 --> 00:24:09,907
[howling]
562
00:24:11,158 --> 00:24:13,911
[howling continues]
563
00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:17,665
-[train whistle blows]
-[burner howls]
564
00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:19,750
[burner]
Welcome home.
565
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,586
You guys are now
officially Burners.
566
00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,546
We're improvising
with train whistles.
567
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:26,131
We don't have a bell.
568
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:27,216
[train whistle blowing]
569
00:24:27,257 --> 00:24:28,759
[laughs]
570
00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:31,220
[Zoe Nightingale]
Alright, we have arrived.
571
00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:33,639
We are following
GPS coordinates to a place
572
00:24:33,681 --> 00:24:38,310
that we think could be the place
we reserved on the imaginary map
573
00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:39,895
that somebody made
that nobody knows.
574
00:24:39,937 --> 00:24:41,313
[laughter]
575
00:24:41,355 --> 00:24:42,982
[Zoe] It is 1:30 a.m.
576
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:45,734
The moon's out.
577
00:24:45,734 --> 00:24:48,612
We have no clue what's happening
or what's going on.
578
00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:50,114
We're exhausted.
579
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:51,740
We've brought everything
that we don't need
580
00:24:51,782 --> 00:24:53,158
and nothing that we need.
581
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,577
[♪ pop music playing]
582
00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,621
[crowd cheering]
583
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:06,422
[Nathan] So, right there,
the fire dancers this year
584
00:25:06,463 --> 00:25:10,759
are actually in violation
of BLM's rules.
585
00:25:10,801 --> 00:25:12,594
Sometimes, you have
to pick your battles.
586
00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:14,972
Uh, do you actually
go in there and shut that down
587
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:17,224
with the amount of people
that are there?
588
00:25:18,976 --> 00:25:21,895
We've been having a little bit
of trouble finding things.
589
00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,607
No streets, no signs.
590
00:25:25,607 --> 00:25:29,319
Out here now, there's really
nowhere to tell where you're at.
591
00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:35,868
I took my oath
August 31st of 2001.
592
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:37,161
[crowd reveling]
593
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,787
Out of 20 years,
594
00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:40,998
I have actually
worked Burning Man,
595
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,460
I would say right now, it's 16.
596
00:25:44,501 --> 00:25:47,838
I had no-- I had no idea
what I was getting involved in.
597
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,006
No idea.
598
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,843
Good and bad,
it's awesome what you see here.
599
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:55,512
Yes, actually I know
where we're at now.
600
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,848
That's a crane with the light...
601
00:25:58,182 --> 00:25:59,349
[chuckles]
602
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:02,811
...in the shape
of, uh, somebody's genitals.
603
00:26:02,853 --> 00:26:04,730
[Nathan chuckling]
604
00:26:04,772 --> 00:26:06,315
[indistinct chatter]
605
00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:09,818
99% of people actually say
thank you for being here.
606
00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:12,905
It's that 1% that kind of
ruins it for everybody.
607
00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:15,157
[indistinct radio chatter]
608
00:26:15,199 --> 00:26:18,368
There's definitely a lack
of law enforcement here.
609
00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:23,248
There's nothing saying
they can't speed.
610
00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:24,541
[excited chatter]
611
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,919
-[thudding]
-[burner] Oh, shit. Oh, shit!
612
00:26:27,711 --> 00:26:28,837
You alright?
613
00:26:28,879 --> 00:26:30,089
[flames whooshing]
614
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,382
[crowd cheering]
615
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,009
[Nathan] It's a little chaotic.
616
00:26:34,051 --> 00:26:35,511
[burner laughing]
617
00:26:35,552 --> 00:26:36,678
Whoo!
618
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,722
[♪ dance music playing]
619
00:26:41,225 --> 00:26:42,351
[screams]
620
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:44,520
[♪ electronic
dance music continues]
621
00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:46,522
[crowd cheering]
622
00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:51,568
♪♪
623
00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:55,072
[siren wailing]
624
00:26:57,741 --> 00:26:59,743
[sirens wailing]
625
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:02,746
[burner] My friend
just flipped his ATV over,
626
00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:05,707
and he's losing consciousness.
627
00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,876
He had, like,
blood coming out of his mouth.
628
00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:09,086
Like, I was like,
629
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,588
"This could be really serious."
630
00:27:13,924 --> 00:27:17,928
You cannot have anarchists
and chaos at 10,000 people.
631
00:27:18,762 --> 00:27:20,055
It just doesn't work.
632
00:27:20,097 --> 00:27:22,099
[♪ dramatic music playing]
633
00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:28,480
'96 really just left
the organization in shambles.
634
00:27:28,522 --> 00:27:31,233
One human being
lost his life last year.
635
00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:33,402
Other human beings were,
were injured
636
00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:34,736
and injured critically.
637
00:27:34,778 --> 00:27:36,530
That had to be brought
under control.
638
00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:40,742
[Harley] One officer slipped us
a memorandum that said,
639
00:27:40,784 --> 00:27:43,495
"The probability
of Burning Man causing a riot
640
00:27:43,537 --> 00:27:45,414
"was so great
that all police officers
641
00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:48,417
should be issued
bulletproof vests
and rubber bullets."
642
00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:52,045
A little bit of tension there,
understandably. [chuckles]
643
00:27:52,629 --> 00:27:53,839
'96 was a shit show.
644
00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:58,177
[Stuart]
So, in '97 with John Law gone,
645
00:27:58,218 --> 00:28:00,971
Larry and Michael
formed a new organization,
646
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:04,433
an LLC, with four other friends
647
00:28:04,474 --> 00:28:06,560
we now call The Founders.
648
00:28:07,644 --> 00:28:09,188
That was the actual
legal entity
649
00:28:09,229 --> 00:28:10,647
that controlled Burning Man.
650
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,107
[crowd reveling]
651
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:13,984
[Larry] It became apparent
that we were responsible
652
00:28:14,026 --> 00:28:15,277
for everybody's welfare.
653
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,530
It wasn't anybody else.
It was on us.
654
00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:21,200
Then we were
de facto the state.
655
00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:26,455
Which-- Which was a conundrum
for the-- for the hipsters.
656
00:28:26,496 --> 00:28:28,123
[laughs]
657
00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:30,375
You know, what-- what does
an anarchist say to that?
658
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:33,462
[Marian]
When I was in my early 30s,
659
00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:35,672
I'd worked in a bank,
I'd worked in advertising,
660
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,049
I'd worked at a law firm.
661
00:28:38,175 --> 00:28:40,093
And then I saw photos
of Burning Man.
662
00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:44,139
It was just like a big
unfolding of, like,
663
00:28:44,181 --> 00:28:45,349
"Wait a minute.
664
00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:47,517
"What kind of magical circus
665
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:48,727
in the middle of a desert?"
666
00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:53,982
So, I'd read everything
I could at the library
667
00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:55,651
on microfiche.
668
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:58,862
Basically made it my mission
to meet the people that did it.
669
00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:00,239
[people chattering]
670
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,449
Would you play with
my Dream Date?
671
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:05,535
This is my Dream Date.
672
00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:09,122
I met Larry at a party,
and he was super quirky.
673
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:12,042
He was absolutely
in his own head.
674
00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:13,710
He was a storyteller.
675
00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:17,005
And he was very drunk
at this party.
676
00:29:17,047 --> 00:29:18,173
[partygoer 1]
I love you, Larry!
677
00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:19,758
[Marian] And being very,
very silly.
678
00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,678
And I fell in love with him.
679
00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:23,845
[people cheering]
680
00:29:23,887 --> 00:29:25,222
[partygoer 2] He's a real one.
681
00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:28,684
[Marian] And so I came along
as Larry's girlfriend.
682
00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:30,602
He had lots of ideas.
683
00:29:30,644 --> 00:29:32,771
He couldn't do it all himself.
684
00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:36,942
Larry was the philosopher
and writer
685
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:39,861
and created context
for what was happening.
686
00:29:39,903 --> 00:29:43,282
Harley brought compassion
and a deep understanding
687
00:29:43,323 --> 00:29:44,866
of how to bring people together
688
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:47,786
and help drive them
towards some of the goals.
689
00:29:47,828 --> 00:29:51,623
Michael Mikel is a storyteller,
historian,
690
00:29:51,665 --> 00:29:52,874
a trickster,
691
00:29:52,916 --> 00:29:55,711
a kind of third eye
of who we are.
692
00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:58,714
Will Roger organized a DPW
693
00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:01,717
and turned it into
a functioning entity
694
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:04,594
and intention to build the city
and break it down.
695
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:07,389
And Crimson is
the fire goddess.
696
00:30:07,431 --> 00:30:10,392
She oversaw the development
of the art program
697
00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:11,852
with Larry Harvey,
698
00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:13,312
and then The Man is hers.
699
00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:15,939
The building of The Man,
the fire on The Man,
700
00:30:15,981 --> 00:30:19,318
the burning of The Man,
that is still her domain.
701
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:23,905
[Harley] Before 1997,
702
00:30:23,947 --> 00:30:26,616
we were just a renegade
underground event.
703
00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:30,412
In 1997, we--
we came above ground.
704
00:30:30,454 --> 00:30:32,414
We started, uh,
you know, paying taxes
705
00:30:32,456 --> 00:30:34,291
and being a legitimate entity.
706
00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:35,500
[inaudible]
707
00:30:35,709 --> 00:30:37,586
So, we started planning
basically the structure
708
00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:39,755
that you see here on this map.
709
00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:41,757
It came to fruition in 1997.
710
00:30:42,632 --> 00:30:44,509
We planned a city
for the first time.
711
00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:47,471
We made roads
for the first time.
712
00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:49,806
We created structures so that
people could thrive
713
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:50,891
and be safe.
714
00:30:56,188 --> 00:30:58,315
[Marian] We sold
10,000 pre-sale tickets.
715
00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:01,651
Drink lots of water.
Above all else, enjoy yourself.
716
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:03,904
And we'll probably get
at least 13,000.
717
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,324
It's much more organized
this year.
718
00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:09,451
There's a lot of things
that we put in place
719
00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:12,287
to make it a safe place
to have fun.
720
00:31:12,329 --> 00:31:15,207
[Larry] Culture is based
on communion, not consumption.
721
00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:18,377
What we're trying to achieve
here in this experiment
722
00:31:18,418 --> 00:31:21,171
is, is to recreate culture
in our world.
723
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:23,965
The new story is not the event.
It's gonna be the movement.
724
00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:25,300
That's what's gonna happen.
725
00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:27,135
And it's gonna
expand exponentially.
726
00:31:27,177 --> 00:31:28,553
I actually believe that.
727
00:31:28,595 --> 00:31:31,473
[news anchor]
The idea of a spontaneous city
728
00:31:31,515 --> 00:31:32,474
does seem an odd one,
729
00:31:32,516 --> 00:31:34,017
but that's exactly
what turned up
730
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:36,853
in the Nevada Desert
over the Labor Day weekend,
731
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:40,232
a city with a curious name
of "Burning Man."
732
00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:43,819
What some people have called
a proto-apocalyptic,
733
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,655
hippie neo-pagan freak fest.
734
00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:48,573
Yeah!
735
00:31:48,615 --> 00:31:50,200
[shouting]
736
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,160
[Marian] Some people think
this is a big party,
737
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,371
and it's in the desert,
and Burning Man means
738
00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:55,997
I can do whatever I want.
739
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,666
Uh, when in fact,
that's certainly not the case.
740
00:31:57,707 --> 00:31:59,501
[Flynn] [over radio]
Hey, this is Flynn.
741
00:31:59,501 --> 00:32:01,002
What's your 20?
I have another volunteer.
742
00:32:01,044 --> 00:32:02,504
Maybe I can send them
to you, over.
743
00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:04,631
We had to build trust.
744
00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:07,092
But after the chaos of 1996,
745
00:32:07,134 --> 00:32:08,718
it was really hard
to deal with the county.
746
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,681
The Washoe County supervisors
have decided that Burning Man
747
00:32:12,722 --> 00:32:14,850
is an iffy organization,
748
00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:17,727
so they're gonna place
sheriffs in our ticket office
749
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:20,689
and take money as it comes in
750
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:23,859
until they reach $321,000,
751
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,903
which is what they're charging
to protect us.
752
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:29,698
[Marian] The costs that have
been imposed upon us
753
00:32:29,739 --> 00:32:33,368
by the county are so high
that it's entirely possible
754
00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:36,246
and quite likely that
we will be in debt...
755
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:37,539
[clearing throat]
...when this is over.
756
00:32:37,581 --> 00:32:40,459
[Larry] If you can come up
with an extra five,
757
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:41,877
an extra 10.
758
00:32:41,918 --> 00:32:44,212
If you give us $100,
759
00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:45,589
you get a ticket to next year
760
00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:47,424
and you just have to believe
it'll happen next year.
761
00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:48,800
That's an act of faith.
762
00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:50,844
[cheering and applause]
763
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,763
That's what the part
I hate about this
764
00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:56,808
because it's so stressful,
terribly stressful.
765
00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:58,894
And we end up
dealing with politics.
766
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:00,729
We end up worrying
about money endlessly.
767
00:33:00,770 --> 00:33:02,647
Even as we speak,
we're-- we're--
768
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,107
we're asking people for money.
769
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:05,692
We're begging them
for money at the gate.
770
00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:11,114
I have enough faith that we'll
probably just make it, somehow.
771
00:33:20,874 --> 00:33:22,626
[excited chatter]
772
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,462
[Adriana Roberts]
Papers! Get your papers!
773
00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:27,005
[burner 1] Newspapers!
Come and get Newspapers!
774
00:33:27,047 --> 00:33:28,173
[Adriana] Newspapers!
775
00:33:28,215 --> 00:33:31,760
This feels like
1995 all over again.
776
00:33:31,801 --> 00:33:33,595
There were still
no roads back then,
777
00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,347
so it was literally
just running around,
778
00:33:35,388 --> 00:33:36,932
handing papers to people.
779
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:38,767
-Hot off the press.
-Thank you.
780
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:41,853
1993 was my first year
at Burning Man,
781
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:45,023
and 1995 was the first year
of Piss Clear.
782
00:33:45,065 --> 00:33:47,275
And yeah, I did it
for 13 years.
783
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:50,779
I found this in a fucking
free pile at the Mercury Café.
784
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,280
[Adriana] What? Really?
785
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,782
[burner 2]
And I shit my fucking pants.
786
00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:56,159
Thank you for all
of your years of service.
787
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:57,661
[burner 1] Did you get
this year's paper yet?
788
00:33:57,702 --> 00:34:00,455
Not yet, but I'm a big fan.
Big fan.
789
00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:03,041
[Adriana]
Well, yeah, like in '95,
790
00:34:03,083 --> 00:34:05,210
there was like this
communal party vibe,
791
00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:07,504
and everyone sort of felt like
they were in on something.
792
00:34:07,546 --> 00:34:10,465
You know, I'm getting that,
that flavor here this year.
793
00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:12,050
[burner 1]
Papers! You want newspapers?
794
00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:13,969
Hell yeah!
Now, see, that's who I want--
795
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:15,469
[burner 1] That's what we want.
796
00:34:15,512 --> 00:34:18,514
[♪ whimsical music playing]
797
00:34:19,683 --> 00:34:22,060
[Adriana] Black Rock City
is an experiment
798
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:23,645
in functioning anarchy.
799
00:34:23,687 --> 00:34:26,648
And if anything,
this year's gonna prove
800
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:31,485
that we don't necessarily
need all the shit
801
00:34:31,527 --> 00:34:34,114
that the Burning Man
organization brings out here.
802
00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:37,993
I hope it doesn't all turn
to shit, literally, you know?
803
00:34:38,034 --> 00:34:41,036
Actually, where the fuck
is Robot Heart?
804
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,081
If anything's gonna be
a little shit show,
805
00:34:43,123 --> 00:34:44,583
it's gonna be Robot Heart
806
00:34:44,623 --> 00:34:47,085
because you know everyone's
gonna do their drugs
807
00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,670
and then suddenly be like,
808
00:34:48,712 --> 00:34:50,672
"Oh fuck, I gotta go
to the Porta Potties,
809
00:34:50,714 --> 00:34:52,424
but there are
no Porta Potties."
810
00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,094
[truck beeping]
811
00:35:03,143 --> 00:35:05,145
[Gary Mueller]
This camp is called
Robot Heart.
812
00:35:06,313 --> 00:35:09,399
We spend a lot of time
together with our collective
813
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:12,027
creating a sound system
814
00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:15,071
that we think
is pretty unique and special.
815
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,240
And we give that gift
to the playa.
816
00:35:19,242 --> 00:35:23,913
Robot Heart, it was started
by my brother in 2008.
817
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,585
It's changed a lot through time.
818
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,587
Wow, this is going way back.
819
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:35,091
George got this 1972
double-decker bus
820
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,801
straight from England,
821
00:35:36,843 --> 00:35:38,928
custom created
the sound system,
822
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,349
put a heart on top,
and so began Robot Heart.
823
00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:47,062
[Benjamin Alexander]
Gio just wanted to create
824
00:35:47,103 --> 00:35:49,147
this perfect acoustic
experience
825
00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:52,233
for people to enjoy music,
as a big fan of music himself.
826
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:55,904
[Gary] You know,
the name came from my mom
827
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:59,157
used to always
do this heart sign to us,
828
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:00,784
to George and to me.
829
00:36:02,285 --> 00:36:06,247
The combination of robot,
heart, the technology,
830
00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:09,417
and the soul,
this was his passion,
831
00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:13,254
creating the Stradivarius
for electronic musicians.
832
00:36:13,296 --> 00:36:15,256
[♪ electronic music blaring]
833
00:36:15,298 --> 00:36:17,967
I mean, if you're a real
sound aficionado,
834
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:21,930
the playa is just
the perfect place for sound.
835
00:36:21,971 --> 00:36:24,099
When the bus is playing,
836
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:25,809
it has this rattling.
837
00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,353
You almost feel like
you're flying.
838
00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:32,190
[♪ "Let You Go"
by P.O.S. playing]
839
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,780
[Lee Burridge]
The sonic vibration
840
00:36:38,822 --> 00:36:41,324
is stimulating you
on a cellular level.
841
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:43,284
It's almost like
a sort of healing,
842
00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,453
therapeutic experience.
843
00:36:45,495 --> 00:36:48,123
[Clare Laverty]
The sound just flows
844
00:36:48,164 --> 00:36:52,168
through your body like your
body is an absolute vessel.
845
00:36:53,503 --> 00:36:57,090
For us, it's about creativity
and self-expression.
846
00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,968
You know,
we really value the platform
847
00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:01,594
that we give to artists.
848
00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:04,723
[Diplo] The Robot Heart team
hit me up and said,
849
00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:07,058
"If you want to come out,
we can do a sunrise set,"
850
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,686
which is, I'd say as a DJ,
it's like the most coveted set.
851
00:37:10,019 --> 00:37:11,813
[Justin Shaffer] Like, when you
think about the essentials
852
00:37:11,855 --> 00:37:13,022
of the Burning Man experience,
853
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:15,734
there's the man,
there's the temple,
854
00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:19,821
and then there's this communal
experience often around sound.
855
00:37:19,863 --> 00:37:21,197
It's catharsis.
856
00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:24,075
[♪ "Let You Go"
continues playing]
857
00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:32,333
This year, my brother
had a sudden brain aneurysm
858
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,252
out of the blue
859
00:37:34,294 --> 00:37:36,421
and passed away.
860
00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:38,673
And I got the call, and...
861
00:37:38,715 --> 00:37:40,884
[♪ plaintive music playing]
862
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:44,971
[sniffles]
863
00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:50,560
I lost a brother,
864
00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:53,396
and Robot Heart
lost its founder...
865
00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:56,858
which for any organization
is hard.
866
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:58,902
I mean, that happened
with Burning Man.
867
00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:04,616
When the Renegade Burn
was happening,
868
00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:07,744
we decided we needed that.
869
00:38:08,495 --> 00:38:09,829
We needed to go home.
870
00:38:10,914 --> 00:38:13,500
And so, we came together
to celebrate him.
871
00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:24,928
[♪ contemplative music playing]
872
00:38:25,929 --> 00:38:27,639
[interviewer]
Um, what are your hopes
873
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,557
for the future of the project?
874
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:33,770
My hopes are--
Are, uh, grandiose.
875
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,147
[phone ringing]
876
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:39,234
Good afternoon, Burning Man.
This is Action Girl.
877
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,736
[Marian]
We understood his vision.
878
00:38:41,778 --> 00:38:43,571
But in order to grow past
879
00:38:43,613 --> 00:38:45,824
a quirky little
8,000-person event,
880
00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:48,284
we needed to create a business
in order to survive.
881
00:38:48,993 --> 00:38:51,579
If the organization is to last,
882
00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:53,206
we needed to be
at the big boys' table.
883
00:38:54,207 --> 00:38:55,750
Well, yes,
we do have a lot of meetings
884
00:38:55,792 --> 00:38:57,085
and that's... [laughing]
885
00:38:57,126 --> 00:38:58,545
...something
that we struggle with.
886
00:38:59,629 --> 00:39:01,172
[Stuart]
While all this was happening,
887
00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:02,757
the internet was
also happening.
888
00:39:02,799 --> 00:39:04,133
-[modem dial-up sounds]
-And, uh,
889
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:05,927
when the first commercial
browsers came around,
890
00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:07,303
that really changed
a lot of things.
891
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:08,805
[Marian] In 1998,
892
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:10,765
I started creating
the website.
893
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,434
[Stuart]
That really, really accelerated
894
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,603
the growth
of the Burning Man community.
895
00:39:15,603 --> 00:39:18,815
The tech world was invited,
essentially, to Burning Man.
896
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,191
[Larry] What we call now
dot-com people
897
00:39:20,233 --> 00:39:21,442
began to show up.
898
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,778
And I couldn't see
what wilderness camping
899
00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:26,030
had to do with computers.
900
00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:29,659
You see, in their imagination,
901
00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:32,328
our desert world seemed
a lot like cyberspace.
902
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:33,788
With a few prompts,
903
00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:36,291
anyone could generate
a kind of virtual reality.
904
00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:38,960
[burner] Whoo! Yeah!
905
00:39:39,002 --> 00:39:41,212
[Marian]
Sergey Brin and Larry Page
906
00:39:41,254 --> 00:39:42,714
are the founders of Google.
907
00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:45,466
They went to Burning Man
in '97 and '98.
908
00:39:45,508 --> 00:39:48,845
The first Google Doodle
was a Burning Man symbol
909
00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:51,180
over one of the letters because
they went to Burning Man.
910
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:52,724
-[burner 1] Everybody's here.
-[burner 2] Yeah.
911
00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:54,350
You can't launch a product
when everybody's here.
912
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:55,810
You know? [laughing]
913
00:39:55,852 --> 00:39:57,312
[Larry] So, we have
dot-com millionaires.
914
00:39:57,353 --> 00:39:58,646
We have starving artists.
915
00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:00,356
We have dot-com millionaires
916
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:01,900
meeting starving artists.
917
00:40:01,941 --> 00:40:03,276
This really interests me.
918
00:40:04,611 --> 00:40:06,404
[Marian]
We were selling tickets.
919
00:40:06,446 --> 00:40:07,906
We were growing.
920
00:40:07,947 --> 00:40:09,699
And we started to turn a profit.
921
00:40:11,868 --> 00:40:14,162
[Larry] I was always ambitious
to make it bigger.
922
00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:16,372
I saw eight people
on a beach turn into 800
923
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:17,874
on a beach by 1990.
924
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:21,377
Eighty people
turned into 8,000 by 1996.
925
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:24,255
I saw that number quadruple
till it's 32,000.
926
00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:26,382
And you'll think me
a lunatic for saying it,
927
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:27,884
but I think perhaps
to millions.
928
00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:32,722
They thought I was crazy
when I stood here in 1990
929
00:40:32,764 --> 00:40:34,057
and said they'll come.
930
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:35,934
But they did.
931
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,020
[Level]
The way things used to be
932
00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:40,688
isn't the way things are today.
933
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:42,357
You used to be able
to show up on the playa
934
00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:44,067
and like park anywhere
and camp.
935
00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:46,611
Just getting
more and more organized.
936
00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:50,573
[Marian] Now, our budget's
in the neighborhood
937
00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:53,034
of $60 million,
938
00:40:53,076 --> 00:40:56,454
and we have 140 regular
year-round employees.
939
00:40:58,122 --> 00:41:00,416
The biggest journey for me
for sure
940
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,086
is to not let us turn ourselves
941
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:05,546
into a big
corporate organization
942
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:06,965
or a bloated government.
943
00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:08,549
[Harley]
We're really collaborative.
944
00:41:08,591 --> 00:41:11,219
That's the way the regional
network has come about.
945
00:41:11,886 --> 00:41:15,431
Canada and the Austin area
were our first two regionals.
946
00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:19,644
That's when the global movement
really started.
947
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:22,897
And when our regional
network was growing
948
00:41:22,939 --> 00:41:26,234
and we needed some way
to have people understand
949
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,111
that what's happening in Europe
950
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,614
is the same in some way
as what's happening in Japan
951
00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:34,158
as what's happening
in South Africa,
952
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,662
so Larry went off
and wrote the nine principles.
953
00:41:38,246 --> 00:41:39,580
[Stuart] Everybody said
you can't have
954
00:41:39,622 --> 00:41:40,748
just nine principles.
955
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:41,916
You have to have 10,
956
00:41:41,958 --> 00:41:43,167
like any self-respecting cult.
957
00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:47,005
[Athena Demos] That's the thread
that holds us all together.
958
00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:50,508
[Larry] Radical self-reliance,
radical self-expression,
959
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:52,593
they emerged
from our own experience
960
00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:54,971
and makes you feel
that you belong.
961
00:41:56,764 --> 00:41:58,641
[Jennifer Raiser]
The mission is to disseminate
962
00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:02,020
the 10 Principles
across the world.
963
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:04,439
It's what Larry really wanted,
964
00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:09,610
which was to make sure
the Burning Man ethos is spread
965
00:42:09,652 --> 00:42:11,487
and continues to be
the most important thing
966
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:12,530
that Burning Man does.
967
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:15,491
[Harley] And by 2018,
968
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:17,618
more than a million people
had experienced
969
00:42:17,618 --> 00:42:19,495
Burning Man events
around the world.
970
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:25,209
The big family that Larry
had always wanted
971
00:42:25,251 --> 00:42:26,669
actually happened.
972
00:42:29,422 --> 00:42:30,840
[Marian]
That same year,
973
00:42:31,841 --> 00:42:33,176
Larry passed away.
974
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:35,803
[♪ gentle music playing]
975
00:42:35,845 --> 00:42:38,181
[Stuart] You know,
he never took care of himself.
976
00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:40,141
He was like a brain in a jar,
I used to joke.
977
00:42:40,183 --> 00:42:42,810
He was just kind of this
thinking machine
978
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:44,479
that walked around on,
you know, the body
979
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,022
only as much as he needed.
980
00:42:46,522 --> 00:42:50,359
But still, nobody expected him
to just keel over of a stroke.
981
00:42:51,903 --> 00:42:54,530
I had just arrived in France
982
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:56,240
for our European
Leadership Summit
983
00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:57,492
when I found out the news
984
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:59,327
and got back on a plane
and flew back to, um,
985
00:42:59,368 --> 00:43:02,205
to see if I could see him
while he was still breathing.
986
00:43:02,246 --> 00:43:03,331
But, uh...
987
00:43:03,331 --> 00:43:06,042
And I did,
but he never woke up.
988
00:43:09,212 --> 00:43:12,215
[♪ gentle music continues]
989
00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:18,679
[Marian] I started
running the organization
990
00:43:18,721 --> 00:43:19,889
without his help,
991
00:43:19,931 --> 00:43:23,935
but I never had to do it
without his input.
992
00:43:24,769 --> 00:43:27,063
We just lost him sooner
than he thought he would go,
993
00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:29,357
and we lost him sooner
than we thought he would go.
994
00:43:29,398 --> 00:43:30,900
[firecrackers popping]
995
00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:35,113
[Harley] Functionally,
Marian and Crimson and I
996
00:43:35,154 --> 00:43:36,364
have run the organization
997
00:43:36,405 --> 00:43:38,282
since pretty much
its inception.
998
00:43:39,283 --> 00:43:41,869
But he was
the Chairman of the Board,
999
00:43:41,911 --> 00:43:43,079
um, and our visionary.
1000
00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:45,873
[Marian]
He wrote the script.
1001
00:43:45,915 --> 00:43:48,709
We're all the people
in the play that he designed.
1002
00:43:48,751 --> 00:43:50,753
[crowd cheering and shouting]
1003
00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:52,713
And we're all
rewriting it as we go,
1004
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:54,841
and that's what's
supposed to happen.
1005
00:43:57,677 --> 00:43:59,804
[Chef] So, usually what I do is
1006
00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:01,305
go to each of the mouth
of the roads
1007
00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:02,598
and kinda talk about
what's there.
1008
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,641
[Marian] Let's do that.
1009
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:08,479
Burning Man has owned
property in the Gerlach area
1010
00:44:08,521 --> 00:44:09,647
for a long time.
1011
00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:12,275
We needed an office.
1012
00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:13,734
We bought a bar.
1013
00:44:13,776 --> 00:44:14,735
And we had a ranch.
1014
00:44:14,777 --> 00:44:16,320
The purpose of the properties
1015
00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:18,781
was just to run
the Burning Man event.
1016
00:44:18,823 --> 00:44:21,075
But are we just gonna
use it for the event?
1017
00:44:21,117 --> 00:44:26,289
Or do we have a possibility
to create community space?
1018
00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:29,834
That really appealed
to Larry and to all of us.
1019
00:44:29,876 --> 00:44:32,086
And we have some
very brilliant minds
1020
00:44:32,128 --> 00:44:34,589
that are tuned
into his concepts
1021
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:38,676
and his ideas to create
this philosophical center
1022
00:44:38,718 --> 00:44:40,511
so that we can go forward
1023
00:44:40,553 --> 00:44:43,347
with his presence
into the future.
1024
00:44:43,389 --> 00:44:45,600
[Marian] So, why not,
in the little town
1025
00:44:45,641 --> 00:44:47,476
that is the portal
for the culture,
1026
00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:49,312
why wouldn't you
try to do it here?
1027
00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:50,771
My vision's been to buy
1028
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:51,981
-whatever we can.
-[Chef] Yeah.
1029
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:53,816
[Marian] Do you know
when you bought his property?
1030
00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:54,942
I don't know.
1031
00:44:54,984 --> 00:44:56,027
-I want it.
-[Chef] Um, I know.
1032
00:44:56,068 --> 00:44:58,196
Everything. You want everything.
1033
00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:00,323
[Jennifer] We've spent
a lot of money recently,
1034
00:45:00,364 --> 00:45:04,202
And I'm not sure
it was money all well spent.
1035
00:45:06,078 --> 00:45:09,040
And if we keep spending money
at the rate we're spending,
1036
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:11,626
we're gonna have to keep
raising more and more money
1037
00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:13,044
or raising ticket prices.
1038
00:45:13,878 --> 00:45:16,672
And I don't think
either of those is desirable.
1039
00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:19,175
We have to be
fiscally responsible,
1040
00:45:19,217 --> 00:45:22,053
and we have to answer
to our community.
1041
00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:30,228
[indistinct chatter, laughter]
1042
00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:31,646
[burner 1]
Just a big hologram in the sky.
1043
00:45:31,687 --> 00:45:33,648
[burner 2]
This is putting down to rest
1044
00:45:33,689 --> 00:45:35,691
Burning Man as we knew it.
1045
00:45:36,525 --> 00:45:38,861
This is what it looks like
when Burning Man is canceled.
1046
00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:40,404
This is what it looks like
when the people
1047
00:45:40,446 --> 00:45:42,573
just create from their hearts.
1048
00:45:42,615 --> 00:45:44,158
We've created this here,
1049
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,410
but, with, like,
no above governing system.
1050
00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:47,703
Look at what people can do
1051
00:45:47,745 --> 00:45:49,372
-when they come together.
-[burner 3] Yeah.
1052
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:50,581
-So, like, let's--
-[burner 3] And, like,
1053
00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:51,749
let go of the fear.
1054
00:45:51,791 --> 00:45:53,000
Like, through the fear
of like...
1055
00:45:53,042 --> 00:45:54,168
-Yes.
-...what could be
1056
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:55,670
when there's no rules.
1057
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:57,922
When there's no governance,
what's gonna happen?
1058
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:01,884
This is by far one of the most
beautiful times
1059
00:46:01,926 --> 00:46:03,386
I've had here. You know?
1060
00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:05,513
Like, I hear you
and at the same time, I'm like,
1061
00:46:05,554 --> 00:46:08,391
because Burning Man
existed for 25 years,
1062
00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:11,018
we are an evolved culture now.
1063
00:46:11,018 --> 00:46:14,563
We did this because
we've been doing it together,
1064
00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:18,442
because that organization
did give us a place to do it.
1065
00:46:18,484 --> 00:46:20,403
[♪ spirited music playing]
1066
00:46:25,491 --> 00:46:27,034
[Stuart]
It is in fact nine o'clock.
1067
00:46:27,076 --> 00:46:28,452
-[crew member] Nine o'clock.
-[Stuart] Yes.
1068
00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:29,912
-Oh, not a prop.
-Yeah.
1069
00:46:29,954 --> 00:46:31,289
[Stuart] So yeah,
we're gonna burn a man.
1070
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:33,374
Just like every year.
1071
00:46:33,374 --> 00:46:35,418
I think this is the 35th,
something like that.
1072
00:46:36,168 --> 00:46:38,254
So, a bunch of us
from the organization decided
1073
00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:40,047
to come out to the desert
1074
00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:42,550
onto our private land
adjacent to the Black Rock
1075
00:46:42,591 --> 00:46:45,261
where we could burn a man,
1076
00:46:45,303 --> 00:46:47,847
and to live stream it
for all the world to see it.
1077
00:46:55,771 --> 00:46:57,898
[Lindsay]
Like, the atmosphere is...
1078
00:46:57,940 --> 00:46:59,483
just like buzzing right now,
1079
00:46:59,525 --> 00:47:01,277
waiting to watch the man burn.
1080
00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:04,071
Finally, Man Burn Night.
1081
00:47:04,113 --> 00:47:07,074
Everybody's pouring
onto the Altspace platform
1082
00:47:07,116 --> 00:47:09,493
so that they can watch
the actual man burn
1083
00:47:09,535 --> 00:47:11,454
via livestream
that we've got going.
1084
00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:15,666
And then, we watch
our virtual man virtually burn.
1085
00:47:15,708 --> 00:47:17,460
[fireworks popping]
1086
00:47:20,463 --> 00:47:22,381
[flames whooshing]
1087
00:47:22,882 --> 00:47:24,175
Ah!
1088
00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:26,218
[fireworks continue popping]
1089
00:47:27,636 --> 00:47:29,096
Oh, my God!
1090
00:47:29,138 --> 00:47:30,389
[Lindsay laughs]
1091
00:47:30,431 --> 00:47:32,141
Yeah, this is amazing.
1092
00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:34,310
You kind of forget
that it's not a real thing.
1093
00:47:35,394 --> 00:47:36,937
[Crimson Rose]
As Larry Harvey said,
1094
00:47:36,979 --> 00:47:38,814
we will always burn the man.
1095
00:47:39,482 --> 00:47:40,483
[explosives popping]
1096
00:47:42,193 --> 00:47:44,195
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1097
00:47:46,906 --> 00:47:49,283
[Stuart] The burning of the man
is the central ritual.
1098
00:47:49,325 --> 00:47:50,493
It's the formative ritual.
1099
00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:52,536
[flames crackling]
1100
00:47:53,412 --> 00:47:55,456
It's kind of a big deal
for people
1101
00:47:55,498 --> 00:47:57,041
to be able
to witness a man burn.
1102
00:47:59,001 --> 00:48:00,669
[Crimson]
Happy Burn Day!
1103
00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:02,630
[burner] Alright!
1104
00:48:05,674 --> 00:48:07,510
[♪ techno music playing]
1105
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,935
[whistling and cheering]
1106
00:48:21,982 --> 00:48:24,985
[Joel] I do believe the org
has come to a milestone.
1107
00:48:25,027 --> 00:48:27,071
They do need to look
at what they want to do.
1108
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,783
2021, it was my best burn ever.
1109
00:48:31,575 --> 00:48:32,910
There's no doubt about it.
1110
00:48:32,952 --> 00:48:33,994
[laughter]
1111
00:48:34,036 --> 00:48:35,663
[♪ techno music continues]
1112
00:48:35,704 --> 00:48:37,706
There's many parts of the org
that are very beautiful
1113
00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:38,833
about Burning Man,
1114
00:48:38,874 --> 00:48:40,167
but, guys,
1115
00:48:40,209 --> 00:48:41,710
stop the waste of money.
1116
00:48:42,628 --> 00:48:44,130
We don't need a lot of money.
1117
00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:46,715
Stick to the origins.
1118
00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,634
The people are Burning Man.
1119
00:48:50,052 --> 00:48:51,887
[Joel]
15,000 people came together
1120
00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:54,223
to build a city
based on the 10 Principles...
1121
00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:57,601
and no one lost their life.
1122
00:48:59,228 --> 00:49:02,231
It showed that Burners
can overcome.
1123
00:49:03,983 --> 00:49:05,985
[cheering and applause]
1124
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,329
[♪ electronic music playing]
1125
00:49:31,302 --> 00:49:33,304
[crowd cheering]
1126
00:49:36,015 --> 00:49:37,016
[screaming]
1127
00:49:39,268 --> 00:49:41,270
[cheering continues]
1128
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:48,611
[cheering and applause]
1129
00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:53,616
[♪ electronic music continues]
1130
00:50:00,539 --> 00:50:02,500
[Joel] That drone man,
1131
00:50:02,541 --> 00:50:06,420
it just showed the world
we are Burners.
1132
00:50:06,462 --> 00:50:08,005
This is what we can do.
1133
00:50:08,047 --> 00:50:10,257
[♪ soft music playing]
1134
00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:11,675
We did it.
1135
00:50:11,717 --> 00:50:13,177
We freaking did it.
1136
00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:15,888
[♪ music fades out]
1137
00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:21,018
[softly crying]
1138
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:22,311
[Lofax] Hmm.
1139
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:27,191
[voice breaking]
That's all I got to say.
1140
00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:31,862
[interviewer]
So, how did the drone show
1141
00:50:31,904 --> 00:50:32,988
really come together?
1142
00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:37,618
Burning of The Man is really
the ritual that we come for.
1143
00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:39,787
And so, there was
no ritual planned
1144
00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:43,123
for-- For, uh, for--
For the FreeBurn.
1145
00:50:43,165 --> 00:50:45,042
[♪ ethereal music playing]
1146
00:50:45,334 --> 00:50:46,669
There was something missing.
1147
00:50:48,754 --> 00:50:50,631
And so that's when I called
Ralph and I said,
1148
00:50:50,673 --> 00:50:51,966
"We'd like to help finance
1149
00:50:52,007 --> 00:50:53,509
bringing the drones
to the playa."
1150
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,346
We just were saying,
"Hey, what if we flew the man?"
1151
00:50:57,388 --> 00:51:00,349
Then he said, "Who should
we ask for permission?
1152
00:51:00,975 --> 00:51:03,852
"In the world of Burning Man,
there is the org
1153
00:51:03,894 --> 00:51:05,854
or there's the government
or there's someone."
1154
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:07,106
And I said,
1155
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,733
"There is no one to ask.
1156
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:12,111
"Let's just do it.
1157
00:51:13,404 --> 00:51:15,948
And we should invite everyone."
1158
00:51:17,575 --> 00:51:18,867
That was our gift.
1159
00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:21,078
[♪ ethereal music continues]
1160
00:51:21,412 --> 00:51:24,582
The truth is, Burning Man
is a very expensive event.
1161
00:51:24,623 --> 00:51:27,209
Financial resources is a gift.
1162
00:51:27,251 --> 00:51:28,752
An extraordinary gift.
1163
00:51:28,794 --> 00:51:30,546
And not a gift
that everyone else can do.
1164
00:51:35,301 --> 00:51:37,845
[interviewer] Um, did you
have a chance
1165
00:51:37,886 --> 00:51:39,972
to visit the FreeBurn
on the playa?
1166
00:51:42,308 --> 00:51:44,310
[engine humming]
1167
00:51:46,395 --> 00:51:47,563
[Marian] Stay slow.
1168
00:51:47,605 --> 00:51:49,064
Stay slow,
slow, slow, slow, slow.
1169
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:50,190
[Chef] Okay.
1170
00:51:50,774 --> 00:51:52,860
[Marian]
I was super curious to see
1171
00:51:52,901 --> 00:51:54,820
what would happen.
1172
00:51:55,821 --> 00:51:58,115
-[Chef] That's cool.
-[Marian] Oh my God,
this is crazy.
1173
00:51:58,157 --> 00:52:00,242
I'm actually gonna cry!
1174
00:52:01,994 --> 00:52:03,746
[crying softly]
1175
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,582
It's crazy in a good way.
1176
00:52:07,499 --> 00:52:09,877
I wonder what Larry would think.
[sniffles]
1177
00:52:09,918 --> 00:52:11,295
[♪ gentle music playing]
1178
00:52:11,337 --> 00:52:12,713
-[indistinct chatter]
-[cork pops]
1179
00:52:12,755 --> 00:52:13,881
-Meow!
-Meow.
1180
00:52:13,922 --> 00:52:16,925
It was like 1996,
but in a good way,
1181
00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:19,762
where there was no fence
1182
00:52:19,803 --> 00:52:21,513
and there was no road,
1183
00:52:22,389 --> 00:52:23,974
and the people were
gonna be gathering.
1184
00:52:24,016 --> 00:52:27,061
And fuck, it was
gonna possibly work
1185
00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:29,563
that you bring
Burning Man values together?
1186
00:52:29,605 --> 00:52:31,065
That would be the proof
in the pudding.
1187
00:52:31,106 --> 00:52:32,900
That's Larry's lounge,
you guys!
1188
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,402
That's a piece
of Larry's lounge!
1189
00:52:35,444 --> 00:52:37,071
[burner] Larry's lounge.
1190
00:52:37,112 --> 00:52:38,572
[all cheering]
1191
00:52:38,572 --> 00:52:40,783
[Marian] I'm really happy
to actually be doing this
1192
00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:42,242
and I don't have to run it.
1193
00:52:42,284 --> 00:52:43,452
[laughs]
1194
00:52:43,494 --> 00:52:45,412
Who wants to have to run this?
1195
00:52:45,454 --> 00:52:46,622
Yay!
1196
00:52:46,664 --> 00:52:48,374
Ah! Yes!
1197
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,586
What I don't have a handle on
1198
00:52:52,628 --> 00:52:54,380
is whether people
are happy with this.
1199
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:57,675
If this is what people want,
1200
00:52:57,716 --> 00:52:58,759
they can do it.
1201
00:52:58,801 --> 00:53:00,427
I think the organization,
though,
1202
00:53:00,469 --> 00:53:03,097
still wants to be grand
1203
00:53:03,138 --> 00:53:05,099
and make it as big
as we possibly can
1204
00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:06,850
because the magic
is even bigger.
1205
00:53:06,892 --> 00:53:08,102
Like, this is special.
1206
00:53:08,143 --> 00:53:09,812
But, you know,
1207
00:53:10,562 --> 00:53:13,107
you bring 80,000 people together
in this environment,
1208
00:53:13,148 --> 00:53:14,858
it's off the hook.
1209
00:53:15,567 --> 00:53:18,570
[♪ gentle music playing]
1210
00:53:25,869 --> 00:53:27,871
[waves crashing]
1211
00:53:33,711 --> 00:53:35,963
[Kimbal Musk] One thing that I
have heard from Marian directly
1212
00:53:36,004 --> 00:53:37,131
for years now
1213
00:53:37,172 --> 00:53:40,467
was that she does want
to no longer be CEO.
1214
00:53:40,467 --> 00:53:43,512
And, um, I think the question
is what to do.
1215
00:53:45,305 --> 00:53:47,683
After the FreeBurn, we invited
heads of all the regionals
1216
00:53:47,725 --> 00:53:48,976
around the world
1217
00:53:48,976 --> 00:53:51,311
to talk about decentralizing
governance.
1218
00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:52,813
[burner] From the outside,
1219
00:53:52,855 --> 00:53:54,982
it looks like the six people
1220
00:53:55,023 --> 00:53:56,734
still are holding on to power.
1221
00:53:56,775 --> 00:53:58,485
[Kimbal]
The FreeBurn showed me that
1222
00:53:58,527 --> 00:54:01,739
this is a wonderful
self-organized community
1223
00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:04,908
that will gather once a year,
no matter what.
1224
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:07,661
The transition between
a top-ruled organization...
1225
00:54:07,703 --> 00:54:09,580
Many members
of the org came down.
1226
00:54:09,621 --> 00:54:11,832
Marian was invited.
She wasn't able to join.
1227
00:54:11,874 --> 00:54:13,834
There is a table
that we're sitting at
1228
00:54:13,876 --> 00:54:14,877
with the board members
1229
00:54:14,918 --> 00:54:16,336
and the founders having...
1230
00:54:16,378 --> 00:54:18,172
[Zach Bell] Kimbal decided
to host a conference
1231
00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:19,423
about the future
of Burning Man.
1232
00:54:19,465 --> 00:54:21,008
I called Marian
a bunch of times.
1233
00:54:21,049 --> 00:54:22,718
I was like, "Come on,
just come down."
1234
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,428
And she was like,
"I'm literally in the middle
1235
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:26,430
"of, like, closing a fundraiser
1236
00:54:26,472 --> 00:54:28,640
that's actually running
the Burning Man organization."
1237
00:54:30,058 --> 00:54:32,102
She was busy.
1238
00:54:32,144 --> 00:54:34,021
I've been arguing
for several years
1239
00:54:34,062 --> 00:54:35,272
that leadership should change.
1240
00:54:35,314 --> 00:54:37,691
I think that the core problem
1241
00:54:37,733 --> 00:54:40,527
originates from its current CEO.
1242
00:54:40,569 --> 00:54:42,780
[Zach] Without Marian
being there to defend herself,
1243
00:54:42,821 --> 00:54:44,531
it started to feel like a coup.
1244
00:54:45,073 --> 00:54:47,201
I think that she's
a very capable person
1245
00:54:47,242 --> 00:54:48,410
for where we are right now.
1246
00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:50,204
I don't think that's
the number one priority
1247
00:54:50,245 --> 00:54:51,872
in the middle
of what we're going through.
1248
00:54:51,914 --> 00:54:53,081
As Farhad's saying,
1249
00:54:53,123 --> 00:54:55,042
destabilizing all
the leadership right now,
1250
00:54:55,083 --> 00:54:57,878
I think has potential
huge downsides.
1251
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,756
Some of the changes
that people are wishing for
1252
00:55:00,798 --> 00:55:03,592
will not happen
with the current leadership.
1253
00:55:03,634 --> 00:55:06,595
[Farhad Mohit]
Marian, she's in a tough spot.
1254
00:55:06,637 --> 00:55:09,097
With the void
of the spiritual leader,
1255
00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:13,101
everyone is scrambling for what
is the vision of Burning Man.
1256
00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:14,603
Larry's not there to ask.
1257
00:55:15,604 --> 00:55:18,982
So few people understand
how much energy it takes
1258
00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:21,443
to bring people like that
together consistently.
1259
00:55:21,485 --> 00:55:22,778
They don't understand it.
1260
00:55:23,529 --> 00:55:25,572
Black Rock City comes to life,
1261
00:55:25,614 --> 00:55:26,824
and you have to be there
to know
1262
00:55:26,865 --> 00:55:28,492
it's like a functioning city.
1263
00:55:28,534 --> 00:55:30,994
And so I told people
at Renegade, I was like,
1264
00:55:31,036 --> 00:55:32,412
"Burning Man
definitely happened,
1265
00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:34,122
but Black Rock City
was nowhere to be found."
1266
00:55:34,998 --> 00:55:37,918
[Farhad]
Do you need BurningMan.org
1267
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,169
to be able to live
a burner lifestyle?
1268
00:55:39,211 --> 00:55:40,254
Hell no.
1269
00:55:40,295 --> 00:55:41,463
Do you need it to run,
1270
00:55:41,505 --> 00:55:43,257
you know, the third-largest
city in Nevada
1271
00:55:43,298 --> 00:55:45,008
for one week and clean it up
1272
00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:47,427
without getting
in all kinds of trouble?
1273
00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:48,846
You're damn right you need it.
1274
00:55:48,887 --> 00:55:50,681
So, the-- So, the next meeting,
1275
00:55:50,722 --> 00:55:52,432
which if we schedule
1276
00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:54,643
before I leave tomorrow
morning at 9:00 a.m.,
1277
00:55:54,685 --> 00:55:57,187
I will fund, and I don't care
what the size is.
1278
00:55:57,729 --> 00:56:00,107
[Zach] Just because you give
a big check to Burning Man
1279
00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:01,775
doesn't give you a say.
1280
00:56:01,817 --> 00:56:03,443
And they expect
special treatment.
1281
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:06,738
And Marian tells them
to go fuck themselves.
1282
00:56:07,406 --> 00:56:08,448
And she's not wrong.
1283
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:09,867
Is that how we did it before?
1284
00:56:09,908 --> 00:56:11,451
[Zach]
She's protecting the magic
1285
00:56:11,493 --> 00:56:13,495
that she's witnessed
be created
1286
00:56:13,537 --> 00:56:15,622
to the detriment of her
personal relationships,
1287
00:56:15,664 --> 00:56:16,915
to people hating her.
1288
00:56:17,499 --> 00:56:19,376
There have been people trying
to get Marian fired
1289
00:56:19,418 --> 00:56:20,460
for 10 years.
1290
00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:23,505
She never even
wanted the job.
1291
00:56:23,547 --> 00:56:26,383
If you were to present Marian
with a better candidate for CEO,
1292
00:56:26,425 --> 00:56:28,135
she'd probably
take you up on it.
1293
00:56:28,176 --> 00:56:30,053
It's a thankless job.
1294
00:56:31,847 --> 00:56:33,724
[Marian] If there's
a leadership coup happening
1295
00:56:33,765 --> 00:56:34,892
and someone wants me
to go away,
1296
00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:36,393
I really fucking don't care.
1297
00:56:37,352 --> 00:56:39,813
I've been doing this
for 28 years.
1298
00:56:39,855 --> 00:56:41,732
What are you gonna tell me
I've done wrong?
1299
00:56:41,773 --> 00:56:43,984
[♪ tense music playing]
1300
00:56:43,984 --> 00:56:47,362
Great, you want
the rich, white, entitled
dude to blow it up?
1301
00:56:47,404 --> 00:56:49,573
Yeah. Blow it up.
1302
00:56:53,201 --> 00:56:55,203
[♪ techno music playing]
1303
00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:27,235
♪♪
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