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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:02,869 [♪♪♪] 2 00:00:12,012 --> 00:00:12,812 [Paul] The fire started 3 00:00:12,946 --> 00:00:17,484 in the backcountry west of Kelowna. 4 00:00:17,617 --> 00:00:21,221 It was a wildfire of interest to BC Wildfire Service. 5 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,668 Combined with the weather forecast, 6 00:00:35,802 --> 00:00:37,771 we were starting to get a little bit concerned, 7 00:00:37,904 --> 00:00:40,640 because it was growing very quickly. 8 00:00:40,774 --> 00:00:43,009 Basically, it was doubling in size every hour. 9 00:00:44,577 --> 00:00:46,846 When it started looking like a volcano 10 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:48,815 up behind Bear Creek Park, 11 00:00:48,948 --> 00:00:50,650 it really indicated 12 00:00:50,784 --> 00:00:52,819 that we were gonna be dealing with a major situation. 13 00:00:52,952 --> 00:00:55,789 It was blowing up like a volcano. 14 00:00:55,922 --> 00:00:59,592 It looked like a towering column of smoke and fire. 15 00:01:01,327 --> 00:01:02,929 Traders Cove is the first community 16 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,698 east of where the fire was, 17 00:01:05,832 --> 00:01:06,866 so we started staging and preparing 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,135 for the possibility 19 00:01:09,269 --> 00:01:13,640 of it actually dropping down into Traders Cove. 20 00:01:13,773 --> 00:01:15,675 Due to the cold front that came in, 21 00:01:15,809 --> 00:01:17,944 that process happened very quickly, 22 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:19,078 so as the wind picked up, 23 00:01:19,212 --> 00:01:21,948 the ferocity of the fire and the energy of the fire 24 00:01:22,081 --> 00:01:25,084 became much bigger and quicker. 25 00:01:26,586 --> 00:01:27,987 If there is no wind and the fire burns, 26 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:30,190 it doesn't go very fast. 27 00:01:30,323 --> 00:01:31,391 In a case like this, 28 00:01:31,524 --> 00:01:34,027 where we had 30- to 50- kilometre-an-hour winds, 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,029 as the fire gets driven 30 00:01:36,162 --> 00:01:38,164 and travels through the low-level fuels, 31 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:40,300 the trees start candling... 32 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:41,734 and when the trees candle, 33 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:43,470 those explosions of fire 34 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:46,239 throw large embers of burning chunks of wood 35 00:01:46,372 --> 00:01:49,509 into the travelling wind above them. 36 00:01:49,642 --> 00:01:50,977 That's what basically started the fire 37 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:53,446 on the east side of the lake. 38 00:01:54,013 --> 00:01:58,651 Our embers travelled through the upper-level winds 39 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:01,588 and started igniting the east side of the lake... 40 00:02:02,722 --> 00:02:05,058 so we were just fighting fire along the whole west side, 41 00:02:05,191 --> 00:02:08,161 and then eventually over into Lake Country and Kelowna. 42 00:02:14,834 --> 00:02:16,002 [♪♪♪] 43 00:03:05,084 --> 00:03:06,653 [Al] This fire started 44 00:03:06,786 --> 00:03:08,454 on the south aspect of Penrose Mountain, 45 00:03:08,588 --> 00:03:12,792 lightning strike way up high on the mountain. 46 00:03:12,926 --> 00:03:15,495 We had the helitack crews in here working it 47 00:03:15,628 --> 00:03:18,031 for the first week and a half. 48 00:03:22,402 --> 00:03:24,170 It's mountain goat territory. 49 00:03:24,304 --> 00:03:26,005 It's just impossible to get there, 50 00:03:26,139 --> 00:03:30,009 and so they felt they had to back off, and... 51 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:32,545 she's a-goin' now. 52 00:03:40,086 --> 00:03:43,256 Today's the first real blowout on the fire, 53 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:45,792 so I think there's a little bit of twitchiness, 54 00:03:45,925 --> 00:03:47,193 and people are looking up the hill 55 00:03:47,327 --> 00:03:49,862 and wondering what's going on. 56 00:03:51,464 --> 00:03:54,968 There's 275 structures on this lake, 57 00:03:55,101 --> 00:03:58,304 so I don't think there can ever be enough resources for this. 58 00:04:00,673 --> 00:04:03,576 It looks like an atomic bomb just went off. 59 00:04:06,613 --> 00:04:08,314 [Adam] So, we do structural protection. 60 00:04:08,448 --> 00:04:09,983 Right now we're going around and making sure 61 00:04:10,116 --> 00:04:12,452 there's a bubble of humidity around each property, 62 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:13,786 so what we're doing 63 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,122 is kind of a prep-and-go situation. 64 00:04:16,255 --> 00:04:17,156 We prepare the houses, get them ready, 65 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:19,158 and then, time comes, 66 00:04:19,292 --> 00:04:22,228 we turn everything on and get out. 67 00:04:22,362 --> 00:04:24,030 This is a heritage cabin here, a parent's, 68 00:04:24,163 --> 00:04:26,866 so this is really important to them, 69 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,334 so they wanted to make sure that it was protected. 70 00:04:28,468 --> 00:04:30,336 [Adam] There's definitely some challenges out here 71 00:04:30,470 --> 00:04:32,672 in terms of some older houses, some heritage homes 72 00:04:32,805 --> 00:04:34,240 that really need to be protected, 73 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:36,009 and just the fuel load around them. 74 00:04:36,142 --> 00:04:38,011 The vegetation is so thick and so dense, 75 00:04:38,144 --> 00:04:39,979 with a lot of deadfall down on the ground, 76 00:04:40,113 --> 00:04:43,483 so if fire was to come in here, it's gonna be pretty intense. 77 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:46,152 We got two sprinklers on each peak of that house, 78 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:51,424 and it's 100% gravity-fed, so... yeah. 79 00:04:51,557 --> 00:04:53,259 [Adam] But yeah, old homes always cause a challenge for us. 80 00:04:53,393 --> 00:04:56,496 The big thing for our sprinklers, 81 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:59,565 if we create a big humidity dome around the structure... 82 00:04:59,699 --> 00:05:01,167 How are you guys doing on that last sprinkler? 83 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,269 We're almost ready to fire on this end. 84 00:05:03,403 --> 00:05:04,771 [Adam] ...and just up that RH level, 85 00:05:04,904 --> 00:05:06,572 those embers, when they do try to penetrate, 86 00:05:06,706 --> 00:05:08,808 will just get snuffed out. 87 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:14,213 [starting pump] 88 00:05:14,347 --> 00:05:16,115 Let's get those Mark-3s started 89 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:17,350 and pump some water out of the lake. 90 00:05:23,423 --> 00:05:26,225 Okay. Let's see it. Let's see if my vision worked. 91 00:05:26,359 --> 00:05:27,527 [water spraying] 92 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:29,128 We've got a good moisture bubble around the house. 93 00:05:29,262 --> 00:05:32,231 It's coming kinda 10, 15 feet out from the home, 94 00:05:32,365 --> 00:05:36,035 so, pretty awesome to see when it works. 95 00:05:37,437 --> 00:05:39,305 It's good that these guys are here, 96 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:40,773 and they have a really good setup 97 00:05:40,907 --> 00:05:43,176 and a really good group of guys and people. 98 00:05:43,509 --> 00:05:45,745 This is stuff that happens. 99 00:05:45,878 --> 00:05:48,748 It's unfortunate, it's sickening to a point, 100 00:05:48,881 --> 00:05:50,583 but, yeah, just keep our fingers crossed, 101 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:51,317 and whatever happens, happens. 102 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:53,152 It's nature, 103 00:05:53,286 --> 00:05:55,254 and we can only do the best we can. 104 00:06:03,463 --> 00:06:06,332 [Lee-Anne] Southeast Fire Centre, X-ray Alpha India. 105 00:06:06,466 --> 00:06:10,103 Just leaving 2350 106 00:06:10,236 --> 00:06:12,739 and headed to 2170. 107 00:06:16,142 --> 00:06:17,243 This fire started about three weeks ago. 108 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:21,280 It looks like most of the growth has stayed to the north... 109 00:06:23,382 --> 00:06:26,452 and then it's actually crossed the main drainage there 110 00:06:26,586 --> 00:06:30,123 and started another fire on the other side of the drainage, 111 00:06:30,256 --> 00:06:33,159 but all of that is in upper elevation, 112 00:06:33,292 --> 00:06:37,697 so for now, it's just gonna remain monitor only. 113 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:46,205 Basically, when these fires start in these remote areas, 114 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:48,107 what we try and do 115 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:53,813 is let them burn as they naturally would. 116 00:06:53,946 --> 00:06:56,949 Initially, like, the impact is quite great on wildlife 117 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:58,217 because obviously they can't be in here 118 00:06:58,351 --> 00:06:59,652 while it's burning, 119 00:06:59,786 --> 00:07:00,787 but post-wildfire, 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,223 there's a huge rush of nutrients to the ground, 121 00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:07,360 and you see green shoots and tons of berries, 122 00:07:07,493 --> 00:07:09,695 and it kind of regenerates an area 123 00:07:09,829 --> 00:07:13,833 that's been not growing as well as it should, 124 00:07:13,966 --> 00:07:16,235 and that's kind of that, like, natural process 125 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:20,173 that we're trying to let happen more now, 126 00:07:20,306 --> 00:07:21,541 because we've learned over the years 127 00:07:21,674 --> 00:07:23,709 that we're doing it wrong 128 00:07:23,843 --> 00:07:24,510 when we're putting them out all the time, 129 00:07:24,644 --> 00:07:26,312 and we've reached a point, too, 130 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:28,414 where we just can't put them out anymore. 131 00:07:33,386 --> 00:07:36,355 Uh-oh, there's a new fire. 132 00:07:36,489 --> 00:07:38,524 That's not good. 133 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:39,559 We're going to have to think 134 00:07:39,692 --> 00:07:40,493 about doing something up here, I think. 135 00:07:40,626 --> 00:07:42,762 Yeah. 136 00:07:42,895 --> 00:07:44,230 This might be a rappel fire... 137 00:07:44,363 --> 00:07:46,232 lucky guys. 138 00:07:46,365 --> 00:07:49,235 Let's get a pin first. 139 00:07:49,368 --> 00:07:50,236 How big is it? 140 00:07:50,369 --> 00:07:53,072 I'll call it a point two. 141 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:55,741 Okay, let's look for access here real quick. 142 00:07:55,875 --> 00:07:57,610 I don't know if there's anything. 143 00:08:01,013 --> 00:08:04,717 Geographic location is Abrahamson Creek. 144 00:08:04,851 --> 00:08:14,260 Coordinates are 50 32.396 by 117 24.184, 145 00:08:14,393 --> 00:08:16,462 at an elevation of 4000 feet. 146 00:08:23,736 --> 00:08:28,140 Yeah, recommend a rappel target just to create access, 147 00:08:28,274 --> 00:08:29,942 and if they require extra personnel, 148 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:32,378 they can cut a spot a little bit closer. 149 00:08:32,511 --> 00:08:35,581 Probability of success at this time would be high. 150 00:08:42,555 --> 00:08:47,026 And Kootenay Lake Fire Zone, it's X-ray Alpha India. 151 00:08:52,632 --> 00:08:55,101 Hey, Art, so, yeah, the fire's not going anywhere. 152 00:08:55,234 --> 00:08:56,936 It's kind of just skunking around 153 00:08:57,069 --> 00:08:58,571 in the timber line adjacent to the cut block. 154 00:08:58,704 --> 00:09:01,674 I recommended rappel just because 155 00:09:01,807 --> 00:09:03,643 the hike is looking like 156 00:09:03,776 --> 00:09:05,912 it's greater than a kilometre to get to it, 157 00:09:06,045 --> 00:09:07,446 but it might require more personnel, 158 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:09,448 so maybe they could cut an access for them, 159 00:09:09,582 --> 00:09:13,386 and then we could put two crews on it maybe tomorrow. 160 00:09:21,494 --> 00:09:23,629 Okay, sounds good. 161 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:35,308 [♪♪♪] 162 00:09:46,686 --> 00:09:47,486 [Leslie] A rapattack crew 163 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:51,691 is a three- to four-person crew. 164 00:09:51,824 --> 00:09:53,492 Come into your descent device. 165 00:09:53,626 --> 00:09:54,360 [Leslie] We act as initial attack... 166 00:09:54,493 --> 00:09:57,730 Exiting motion now. 167 00:09:57,863 --> 00:10:00,633 ...and we rappel to remote-access fires, 168 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:02,568 and deal with the fire, 169 00:10:02,702 --> 00:10:04,403 or if the fire's too big, 170 00:10:04,537 --> 00:10:07,006 it's usually a helipad that we'll build 171 00:10:07,139 --> 00:10:09,408 so we can get in a unit crew or additional resources. 172 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:14,647 We also have the capabilities and training to do medevac, 173 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:17,883 and that is our medical extraction, 174 00:10:18,017 --> 00:10:19,485 so we would use the evac harness, 175 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:23,656 and that's a quick way to get someone off of the hill, 176 00:10:23,789 --> 00:10:26,592 and then, for something more traumatic, 177 00:10:26,726 --> 00:10:28,294 we have a sked kit. 178 00:10:29,729 --> 00:10:33,833 For a rap crew to be operational, 179 00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:38,304 we need a certified faller and a level-3 first aid. 180 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,342 All right, clear for door below six deep. 181 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:43,976 Okay, check live intercom. How do you read? 182 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:44,610 I get five squared. 183 00:10:44,744 --> 00:10:45,611 Five squared as well. 184 00:10:45,745 --> 00:10:49,348 [Leslie] We also have what we call "HOTs". 185 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:50,449 That means Helicopter Operation Technicians, 186 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:53,452 and they're trained to deploy us. 187 00:10:53,586 --> 00:10:56,422 We all know the HOTs pretty well. 188 00:10:56,555 --> 00:10:58,557 They were once rappellers. 189 00:10:58,691 --> 00:11:01,027 Okay, door's open. Reset master caution, please. 190 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,461 Master caution reset. 191 00:11:02,595 --> 00:11:03,963 [Leslie] We'll fly over the fire. 192 00:11:04,096 --> 00:11:05,231 We'll do our recce flights 193 00:11:05,364 --> 00:11:07,867 and talk about where our escape routes would be, 194 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,935 viable water, if it's around, 195 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:13,439 and basically, what's our plan once we hit the ground, 196 00:11:13,572 --> 00:11:15,074 and then, when we're ready to deploy, 197 00:11:15,207 --> 00:11:17,543 our HOT will signal to the first rappeller, 198 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:18,878 so that would be me, 199 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:21,080 as the crew leader, you're the first person, 200 00:11:21,213 --> 00:11:23,382 and I'll go out into suspension. 201 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:27,453 And you're clear straight left. 202 00:11:27,586 --> 00:11:30,589 I discovered I had a fear of heights, um, 203 00:11:30,723 --> 00:11:32,591 during my recruit training. 204 00:11:37,763 --> 00:11:43,636 It took three years before that fear stopped bugging me, 205 00:11:43,769 --> 00:11:47,339 and now, it's just, like, "Yep, I'm up here. 206 00:11:47,473 --> 00:11:48,641 Yep, I'll go down." 207 00:11:48,774 --> 00:11:50,609 [♪♪♪] 208 00:11:55,881 --> 00:11:58,150 Once I'm on the ground, I'm looking for danger trees. 209 00:11:58,284 --> 00:11:59,518 I'm making sure our area is clear, 210 00:11:59,652 --> 00:12:01,821 and then I can communicate 211 00:12:01,954 --> 00:12:05,991 if need be, like, no, abort, or whatever I need to do 212 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:08,594 if it's unsuitable for the next members to come down. 213 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,969 Once the rappellers are on the ground, 214 00:12:17,103 --> 00:12:19,472 then our gear bags will get deployed. 215 00:12:20,806 --> 00:12:22,174 We have two gear bags. 216 00:12:22,308 --> 00:12:24,343 One is our clean and one is our dirty. 217 00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:26,278 Our clean will have our camping stuff, 218 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:29,181 as well as our bladder, hose, and our food, 219 00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:31,050 then our dirty bag has our chainsaws, 220 00:12:31,183 --> 00:12:34,053 our fuel, our stove for camping, 221 00:12:34,186 --> 00:12:37,890 our hand tools, and our helipad kits, 222 00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:41,460 so then we're self-sufficient for over 24 hours. 223 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:44,029 [♪♪♪] 224 00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:45,664 So we'll camp until that fire's out, 225 00:12:45,798 --> 00:12:45,831 or until our objective is complete. 226 00:12:50,803 --> 00:12:52,705 And then be picked up 227 00:12:52,838 --> 00:12:54,640 and then flown to a new target. 228 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:25,704 [Al] Gun Lake Fire Brigade was started 229 00:13:25,838 --> 00:13:26,872 because we are two hours 230 00:13:27,006 --> 00:13:31,443 from the nearest forestry base, which is Lillooet. 231 00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:36,916 We've scrimped, scrounged, and saved every little penny 232 00:13:37,049 --> 00:13:39,785 to, uh, try to build what we have now. 233 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,589 Most of my members are seniors, 234 00:13:43,722 --> 00:13:46,559 100% volunteer. 235 00:13:46,692 --> 00:13:47,760 Got a lot of heart, 236 00:13:47,893 --> 00:13:52,798 but maybe not as many miles in us as we should have, 237 00:13:52,932 --> 00:13:55,601 but our biggest challenge is, of course, 238 00:13:55,734 --> 00:13:58,771 is always gonna be topography. 239 00:13:58,904 --> 00:14:02,107 We're in the mountains. 240 00:14:02,241 --> 00:14:06,412 Every day, Gun Lake will have a southwest wind, 241 00:14:06,545 --> 00:14:09,114 uh, usually around 2:00 in the afternoon, 242 00:14:09,248 --> 00:14:10,716 and if we have a fire going, 243 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:15,321 that's gonna give that fire a lot of energy. 244 00:14:17,923 --> 00:14:21,961 It was a standard afternoon. 245 00:14:22,094 --> 00:14:23,262 The wind was coming up, 246 00:14:23,395 --> 00:14:26,165 and one of the members says, like, 247 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:27,933 "Oh... it's in the valley now." 248 00:14:36,208 --> 00:14:38,677 At that point, I was talking to Forestry, 249 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:39,912 saying, "Hey, I think it's about time 250 00:14:40,045 --> 00:14:43,482 that we start thinking about evacuation. 251 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,985 It's crossed all your trip lines." 252 00:14:46,118 --> 00:14:50,256 We actually went into an evacuation order, 253 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:53,792 and, uh, that was Gun Lake Fire's responsibility 254 00:14:53,926 --> 00:14:55,761 to, uh, get that order out. 255 00:14:57,997 --> 00:15:02,668 We're here to help youse guys and work together. 256 00:15:02,801 --> 00:15:04,436 The only thing we don't want 257 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:08,140 is panic when the evac will start. 258 00:15:08,274 --> 00:15:11,477 Just like our area of responsibility, 259 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:14,847 it is the private properties around Gun Lake and Lajoie Lake. 260 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:17,049 That includes Hess Road. 261 00:15:17,182 --> 00:15:18,884 So those, that is what the order covers, 262 00:15:19,018 --> 00:15:20,686 all those properties in that area, 263 00:15:20,819 --> 00:15:23,422 so... all right. 264 00:15:34,033 --> 00:15:35,834 [sprinklers running] 265 00:15:49,815 --> 00:15:51,417 We're just gonna grab this, and we're out of here, so... 266 00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:52,851 Awesome. That's great news, guys. 267 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:55,020 I see some gas here. 268 00:15:55,154 --> 00:15:56,822 Is that gas for the wajax? 269 00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:57,589 Uh, that's dirty old gas. 270 00:15:57,723 --> 00:16:00,693 Okay. If you wouldn't mind... 271 00:16:00,826 --> 00:16:01,860 Actually, I'll-I'll... 272 00:16:01,994 --> 00:16:02,995 If you wouldn't mind just putting it somewhere else? 273 00:16:03,128 --> 00:16:04,830 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 274 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:07,933 And just leave your pump set up down there, 275 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:10,235 and somebody will be by to run it. 276 00:16:10,369 --> 00:16:11,136 -Okay, that's awesome. -I'll paste this. 277 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,605 Paste it on the door. That's good. 278 00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:15,574 And you guys are on your way out, right? 279 00:16:15,708 --> 00:16:16,241 Yeah. Yeah, on our way out, yeah. 280 00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:17,876 We left the pump running. 281 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:19,078 Could we leave your gate open? 282 00:16:19,211 --> 00:16:20,212 -The sprinklers on. -Oh, right. 283 00:16:20,346 --> 00:16:21,547 Yeah, that's... they've asked 284 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,748 if you could leave the gate open 285 00:16:22,881 --> 00:16:24,950 so the structural protection folks... 286 00:16:25,084 --> 00:16:28,053 There's no lock on the gate. 287 00:16:28,187 --> 00:16:29,288 Oh, perfect. 288 00:16:29,421 --> 00:16:30,389 Yeah. 289 00:16:35,728 --> 00:16:38,964 Well, the blue means that nobody was home, 290 00:16:39,098 --> 00:16:41,533 and the pink means 291 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:44,937 that they've been notified of the evacuation order. 292 00:16:45,070 --> 00:16:46,805 We've left a sticker on their door. 293 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,709 On to the next one. 294 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,011 [knocking on door] 295 00:16:54,446 --> 00:16:55,214 A couple days ago, it really wasn't that bad. 296 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:56,915 Man, two days ago, when we got here, 297 00:16:57,049 --> 00:16:57,916 it wasn't that bad. 298 00:16:58,050 --> 00:16:58,951 It's a real thing now. 299 00:16:59,084 --> 00:17:01,587 Currently, Dave is planning 300 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,589 on, uh, sticking around for a little while 301 00:17:03,722 --> 00:17:03,956 to see how things play out. 302 00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:07,226 Um... 303 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,229 Yeah, I think so. I think so. 304 00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:10,829 We've got a pretty good fire hose. 305 00:17:10,963 --> 00:17:12,097 Got a lot of pressure. 306 00:17:12,231 --> 00:17:15,300 I think there's two of us here, 307 00:17:15,434 --> 00:17:17,269 we can stop it from coming on the property, 308 00:17:17,403 --> 00:17:18,003 we have a chance to save the cabin. 309 00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:20,239 We've gotta make the effort. 310 00:17:20,372 --> 00:17:21,974 It's been in the family many years, 311 00:17:22,107 --> 00:17:23,976 and a lot of effort went into building this place. 312 00:17:24,109 --> 00:17:26,979 We're not about to just fold over and let it... 313 00:17:27,112 --> 00:17:29,148 and let it go, 314 00:17:29,281 --> 00:17:30,916 so we're gonna stay and fight as long as we can. 315 00:17:31,049 --> 00:17:32,985 So there's gonna be two people staying? 316 00:17:33,118 --> 00:17:36,188 [Dave] Yes. Yup, two people staying. 317 00:17:36,321 --> 00:17:36,989 No minors under the age of 17? 318 00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:38,824 [Dave] No. 319 00:17:38,957 --> 00:17:41,260 No seniors that may require assistance? 320 00:17:41,393 --> 00:17:43,228 -No. -How many vehicles will be here? 321 00:17:43,362 --> 00:17:44,029 -Two. Two vehicles. -Two vehicles. 322 00:17:44,163 --> 00:17:45,030 [Dave] Yeah. 323 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:48,033 And I told you about the horn? 324 00:17:48,167 --> 00:17:49,935 So, we, there is a siren on the top of the Fire Hall. 325 00:17:50,068 --> 00:17:52,771 If you hear the three-minute blast 326 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,006 on that, on the siren, 327 00:17:54,139 --> 00:17:55,207 that really is the cue to... 328 00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:55,874 -To get out. -...to get out. 329 00:17:56,008 --> 00:17:56,942 -Sure. -Okay? 330 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,111 [Dave] No, that makes sense. 331 00:17:59,244 --> 00:17:59,878 Good luck to you, pal. 332 00:18:00,012 --> 00:18:01,280 Yeah, yeah, you guys, 333 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:01,980 thank you so much for everything you're doing. 334 00:18:02,114 --> 00:18:03,816 Thanks, Dave. 335 00:18:03,949 --> 00:18:04,550 The community's really come together. 336 00:18:04,683 --> 00:18:06,185 That's amazing. That's good. 337 00:18:06,318 --> 00:18:07,086 Hopefully it stays together. 338 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:16,161 [Al] The whole evacuation worked well. 339 00:18:16,295 --> 00:18:17,463 It was two hours. 340 00:18:17,596 --> 00:18:19,498 We have 275 properties notified, 341 00:18:19,631 --> 00:18:23,635 and we're wrapping it up, and telling the SLRD 342 00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:27,372 that people were on the move and that, 343 00:18:27,506 --> 00:18:29,041 and, uh, that's when the first fire incident, 344 00:18:29,174 --> 00:18:30,976 when she came down to the lake the first time, 345 00:18:31,109 --> 00:18:34,880 you know, that was a... pretty drastic moment. 346 00:18:35,013 --> 00:18:38,851 [siren wailing] 347 00:19:07,246 --> 00:19:09,615 [fire truck honking] 348 00:19:15,254 --> 00:19:18,056 We'd better go. 349 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:20,192 Okay, kids, we gotta go. Shoes on, now! 350 00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:23,729 [child] My stuffies and my blanket! 351 00:19:24,196 --> 00:19:25,197 [engine starting] 352 00:19:38,076 --> 00:19:41,213 It was pretty small, didn't really think anything of it, 353 00:19:41,346 --> 00:19:46,084 uh, and now it's... definitely... not that way. 354 00:19:46,218 --> 00:19:47,586 Well, I guess it was two days ago, now, 355 00:19:47,719 --> 00:19:50,155 when it was, like, 32 hectares on the other side there, 356 00:19:50,289 --> 00:19:52,157 and it was like, "Oh, it's fine, we'll get it." 357 00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:53,325 And then 64... 358 00:19:53,458 --> 00:19:54,159 and then it was like 300, 359 00:19:54,293 --> 00:19:56,962 and then it was 500, 600, 1,100, 360 00:19:57,095 --> 00:20:00,566 and now, what, it's like 6,800 hectares or something? 361 00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,000 and just... it's crazy. 362 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:03,168 Just crazy. 363 00:20:03,302 --> 00:20:04,069 Like, we heard early on 364 00:20:04,202 --> 00:20:06,071 that there's potential for looting, 365 00:20:06,204 --> 00:20:08,907 but they were pretty thorough going through the community, 366 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:09,875 and rightfully so. 367 00:20:10,008 --> 00:20:10,509 Like, there's no reason to be up there 368 00:20:10,642 --> 00:20:12,277 for anybody right now. 369 00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:15,681 Those winds change, and honestly, 370 00:20:15,814 --> 00:20:18,617 it jumped Okanagan Lake yesterday. 371 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:21,687 We're closer than that right now. 372 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,496 There's a white house at the very top up there, 373 00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:33,198 and you can just go about straight down from that, 374 00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:35,634 and my house is in that area. 375 00:20:35,767 --> 00:20:36,635 [chuckling] 376 00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:38,203 Yeah, that house burning is... 377 00:20:38,337 --> 00:20:41,340 that's probably on my old street. 378 00:20:41,473 --> 00:20:42,541 There's a lot of anxiety in people, 379 00:20:42,674 --> 00:20:45,043 and, uh, we're trying to cope with it the best we can, 380 00:20:45,177 --> 00:20:49,014 and, uh... the pets figure we're nervous, 381 00:20:49,147 --> 00:20:51,016 they're nervous, so, yeah, it's anxious times. 382 00:20:51,149 --> 00:20:54,052 Last night, we were in the car with my three dogs, 383 00:20:54,186 --> 00:20:59,791 and again, we have to sleep in the car today 384 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:02,861 because we called a couple hotels, you know? 385 00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:07,232 They said, "Oh, we're gonna charge $500 per night 386 00:21:07,366 --> 00:21:09,635 with three dogs and three adults," 387 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:11,503 and I said, "No, that's too much money for me." 388 00:21:11,637 --> 00:21:14,072 I mean, we've gotta get something done about this. 389 00:21:14,206 --> 00:21:15,874 It's crazy. 390 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:18,143 I mean, we're waiting for the whole place to burn down, 391 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,145 and it's just... 392 00:21:20,278 --> 00:21:22,381 it's bad when they can grow, 393 00:21:22,514 --> 00:21:25,017 so, you know, into such big fires. 394 00:21:25,150 --> 00:21:26,151 [helicopter overhead] 395 00:21:51,243 --> 00:21:53,178 My role on the fire 396 00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:54,780 is to coordinate the helicopters. 397 00:21:54,913 --> 00:21:56,281 We work with the operations staff 398 00:21:56,415 --> 00:21:58,450 and the ground crews 399 00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:01,019 to ensure that we know the operational plan 400 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:01,653 on the ground, 401 00:22:01,787 --> 00:22:02,621 and then the helicopters 402 00:22:02,754 --> 00:22:05,123 are brought in to support those tactics. 403 00:22:06,425 --> 00:22:08,927 We've got three Bell 214 helicopters 404 00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:09,895 with buckets on. 405 00:22:10,028 --> 00:22:11,096 They're working on the north flank. 406 00:22:11,229 --> 00:22:12,264 Those are heavy-lift aircraft. 407 00:22:12,397 --> 00:22:13,465 They're really good at climbing, 408 00:22:13,598 --> 00:22:15,801 and that's the steeper side of the fire. 409 00:22:16,868 --> 00:22:18,470 And then on the south flank of the fire, 410 00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:20,605 we have two tanked helicopters, 411 00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:23,375 medium-lift Bell 205 and 212. 412 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,610 Those are working in more closely with the crews 413 00:22:25,744 --> 00:22:27,879 and over the structures. 414 00:22:30,449 --> 00:22:32,217 You're balancing the potential for fire growth 415 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:35,654 with the potential for protecting values. 416 00:22:35,787 --> 00:22:36,555 We always focus on life and property, 417 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:39,357 and move down the line from there. 418 00:22:42,894 --> 00:22:45,263 This fire's situated in a really unique place. 419 00:22:45,397 --> 00:22:48,467 It experiences some pretty interesting winds 420 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,801 over the south end of the lake, 421 00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:51,169 and they tend to downslope in here, 422 00:22:51,303 --> 00:22:53,305 so from the helicopter operations perspective, 423 00:22:53,438 --> 00:22:55,741 we're unable to work underneath that, 424 00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:56,675 so we just continue to maintain 425 00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:58,944 the base of the fire and the anchor, 426 00:22:59,077 --> 00:23:01,380 and look for opportunities to get in underneath it. 427 00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:23,268 [Al] We've gotten the evacuation done. 428 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,604 The fire took quite a jump, 429 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:27,038 and we got a call on the radio 430 00:23:27,172 --> 00:23:29,775 that there was a structure involved. 431 00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:34,679 We hadn't even made it around the south end of the lake yet, 432 00:23:34,813 --> 00:23:37,949 and the structural protection specialist was coming back, 433 00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,551 and he just said, "No, pulling out. 434 00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:40,719 Everybody outta here. 435 00:23:40,852 --> 00:23:42,587 It's way too involved now." 436 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:54,399 Gun Lake Fire from Marine Two. 437 00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:57,369 [Carmen] It was very scary. 438 00:23:57,502 --> 00:23:59,805 We were just finishing up 439 00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:01,673 getting the notifications done 440 00:24:01,807 --> 00:24:02,908 when the call came in 441 00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:06,077 that the fire was down at the road. 442 00:24:08,446 --> 00:24:11,216 From that moment forward, it just became surreal. 443 00:24:11,349 --> 00:24:13,318 Everything was happening very quickly, 444 00:24:13,451 --> 00:24:17,756 and the fire was moving too fast 445 00:24:17,889 --> 00:24:19,357 for any actions to be taken, 446 00:24:19,491 --> 00:24:23,128 and the crews had to be pulled back for safety. 447 00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:28,233 [Al] We came back to the hall, 448 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:29,234 and Kevin Woronchak, 449 00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,269 the structural protection specialist, 450 00:24:31,403 --> 00:24:32,871 is like, "Al... 451 00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:34,439 if there's any time you needed that siren, 452 00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:35,440 it's right now." 453 00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:38,810 [siren wailing] 454 00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:48,386 We were watching it for a long time, 455 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,956 and the crews were handling it, 456 00:24:51,089 --> 00:24:53,792 they had a small jump across the road, 457 00:24:53,925 --> 00:24:54,559 and then all of a sudden, it just... 458 00:24:54,693 --> 00:24:56,695 there was just so much energy, 459 00:24:56,828 --> 00:24:58,864 and it just, and it blew up, 460 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:00,565 and all of a sudden, it went right across, 461 00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:04,569 and just so much energy went over towards the north. 462 00:25:04,703 --> 00:25:06,404 I just would have never predicted this at all. 463 00:25:06,538 --> 00:25:08,907 It was ten minutes, 464 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,177 and then, you know, crews did the best they could. 465 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:26,758 [♪♪♪] 466 00:25:42,641 --> 00:25:44,576 The spotting in this fuel type, 467 00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:47,979 like, it's crazy when the winds are big, 468 00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:49,447 it just takes, like, one ember to create a new spot, 469 00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:51,449 and that creates, like, 470 00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:53,418 a compounding effect of fire behaviour, 471 00:25:53,551 --> 00:25:55,453 and it just, like, keeps running. 472 00:25:55,587 --> 00:26:00,358 Um, yeah, it probably took, like, a 19-kilometre run today, 473 00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:01,626 just doing, like, 474 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,596 a back-of-the-envelope calculation, 475 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:05,530 which is... 476 00:26:05,664 --> 00:26:08,733 it is what it is. 477 00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:12,637 [♪♪♪] 478 00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:18,977 It might pop over that ridge quite nicely. 479 00:26:21,813 --> 00:26:24,149 Being on a lot of interface fires, 480 00:26:24,282 --> 00:26:27,285 this is probably one of the larger ones of scale, 481 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:29,788 but we're pretty comfy working alongside, like, 482 00:26:29,921 --> 00:26:31,957 our local fire department, municipalities, 483 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:35,093 and assisting them with structural protection. 484 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:41,466 We tactically evac'ed the neighbourhood, 485 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:44,369 and we've just been kind of triaging houses 486 00:26:44,502 --> 00:26:46,738 and neighbourhoods, 487 00:26:46,871 --> 00:26:48,873 and so kind of doing the "bump and run" tactic 488 00:26:49,007 --> 00:26:50,375 of once the fire backs down, 489 00:26:50,508 --> 00:26:54,045 we extinguish the flame front, 490 00:26:54,179 --> 00:26:56,414 and then we bump to the next neighbourhood, 491 00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:58,183 and rinse and repeat. 492 00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:03,154 My shift started at 7:30 this morning. 493 00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:05,523 We were on a different incident to begin with, 494 00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:07,592 so the time is... 495 00:27:07,726 --> 00:27:09,661 2:00 in the morning. 496 00:27:09,794 --> 00:27:11,529 I can't do the math right now, 497 00:27:11,663 --> 00:27:14,532 but I think that's 20ish hours, maybe. 498 00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:23,708 [helicopter whirring] 499 00:27:34,252 --> 00:27:35,620 [Paul] As it came up across the mountain, 500 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:36,554 I heard this sound 501 00:27:36,688 --> 00:27:40,225 that I'd never heard before or since. 502 00:27:40,358 --> 00:27:41,426 It was a howling. 503 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:42,694 It wasn't, at the time, it wasn't anywhere near me, 504 00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:45,230 it was way up on the mountain, 505 00:27:45,363 --> 00:27:47,599 and it was just making a howling sound. 506 00:27:47,732 --> 00:27:50,368 It was kind of unearthly. 507 00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:51,569 It was freaky. 508 00:27:51,703 --> 00:27:56,608 This is the firefight at the top of West Kelowna Road. 509 00:27:56,741 --> 00:27:59,711 It's about 2:00 a.m., 510 00:27:59,844 --> 00:28:02,447 and these firefighters are engaged in, uh... 511 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:04,549 digging in deep, 512 00:28:04,682 --> 00:28:05,583 uh, trying to save these homes 513 00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:08,453 under some incredible conditions. 514 00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:12,323 [Paul] Because we had such a long, hot, dry spell, 515 00:28:12,457 --> 00:28:15,560 basically, everything down here was dry, 516 00:28:15,693 --> 00:28:18,329 so grasses get consumed very quickly. 517 00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:21,466 The fire travels very fast along the ground. 518 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,802 As it climbs into the canopies of the trees, 519 00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,737 which are also completely dry, 520 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:28,940 the dead needles very quickly catch on fire, 521 00:28:29,074 --> 00:28:32,610 and then the canopy tends to explode. 522 00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:35,513 A travelling canopy fire at that ferocity 523 00:28:35,647 --> 00:28:39,751 is, um... it's like a beast. 524 00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:42,854 It's this freight train running down the mountain, 525 00:28:42,987 --> 00:28:45,490 burning, you know, 100 to 150 feet high. 526 00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:47,592 If the trees are 80 feet high, 527 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,361 it's burning twice as high as the trees are, 528 00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:51,629 and it consumes everything in its way 529 00:28:51,763 --> 00:28:55,400 that's at all flammable. 530 00:28:57,635 --> 00:28:59,704 This is Westside Road, 531 00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:01,506 just at the edge of the fire protection area, 532 00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:03,842 looking back towards the community. 533 00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:06,311 We deem this to be a no-go. 534 00:29:06,444 --> 00:29:08,346 We're pulling back from here. 535 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,714 Power lines, fire burn on both sides of the road. 536 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:15,720 [Paul] If you're in there, it's all around you, 537 00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:18,189 it makes its own wind, makes its own weather. 538 00:29:18,323 --> 00:29:20,959 As fuel is being consumed, the heat rises, 539 00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:23,228 and then cold air rushes in to replace it, 540 00:29:23,361 --> 00:29:24,662 so, although wind direction can be prevalent 541 00:29:24,796 --> 00:29:27,232 for a particular event, 542 00:29:27,365 --> 00:29:30,568 it may not be behaving the same way inside the fire. 543 00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:32,237 [♪♪♪] 544 00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:34,973 So, our conditions on Bear Creek Road. 545 00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:37,342 I penetrated in as far as I can. 546 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,582 As it was chasing us, 547 00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:45,650 we sometimes drove through the fire, 548 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:49,721 and we were literally dodging power poles 549 00:29:49,854 --> 00:29:51,189 coming down on the road, 550 00:29:51,322 --> 00:29:51,823 and that was within the first three, four hours. 551 00:29:53,825 --> 00:29:55,994 That original lane access 552 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:56,828 that you were working on with the power lines, 553 00:29:56,961 --> 00:29:59,664 safe to access... bush truck, 554 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,767 or do we have to go in from another way? 555 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:06,437 [Paul] We had two injuries, both on the first night. 556 00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:11,009 One was a wrist-bone break from one of the firefighters 557 00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:12,877 that was in a position 558 00:30:13,011 --> 00:30:14,712 where he had to chop through a power line with an axe, 559 00:30:14,846 --> 00:30:18,149 and the other one was second- degree burns to their face. 560 00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:23,388 Both members came back immediately 561 00:30:23,521 --> 00:30:23,888 after being released from the hospital. 562 00:30:24,022 --> 00:30:26,891 [sirens wailing] 563 00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:42,807 That's when... it came down on the yacht club 564 00:30:42,941 --> 00:30:44,976 which was right there. 565 00:30:46,911 --> 00:30:49,981 The yacht club was... 566 00:30:50,114 --> 00:30:53,318 The one that, I think, the first homes that burned. 567 00:30:53,451 --> 00:30:54,552 Yeah, that was over a hundred years... 568 00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:55,720 I didn't realize that was part of this. 569 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,923 Yeah, over a hundred years old. Yeah. 570 00:30:59,057 --> 00:31:00,592 [Al] I had a couple of members 571 00:31:00,725 --> 00:31:04,896 that their whole program, in the event of an evacuation, 572 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:07,232 was they were gonna stay, 573 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:08,600 and if it got really bad, 574 00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:10,468 they were gonna go out in the middle of the lake 575 00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:13,905 and sit in their boat and wait it out. 576 00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:15,673 Well, the second time 577 00:31:15,807 --> 00:31:18,643 that the fire came down to the lake, 578 00:31:18,776 --> 00:31:22,847 and we had the fire tornado and all the rest of that, 579 00:31:22,981 --> 00:31:26,985 massive fire activity... 580 00:31:27,118 --> 00:31:29,587 they changed their story a little bit 581 00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:32,257 about sitting in the boat on the lake, 582 00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:34,225 'cause it wouldn't have been survivable. 583 00:31:39,831 --> 00:31:43,268 We had the initial blow 584 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:46,671 that blew the fire up to the north end, 585 00:31:46,804 --> 00:31:49,807 then the threat was the wind was gonna shift 586 00:31:49,941 --> 00:31:52,143 and come from the north, 587 00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:55,380 and start working down that whole side. 588 00:31:59,984 --> 00:32:01,819 Stafford Road is sort of the beginning 589 00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:04,989 of where the fire came down to visit us the second time. 590 00:32:05,123 --> 00:32:08,860 This is really where, uh... 591 00:32:08,993 --> 00:32:14,265 where the real... disaster begins. 592 00:32:18,269 --> 00:32:20,138 Couldn't see anything that was going on. 593 00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:22,307 I mean, we're just, literally, it's smoke. 594 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,176 There's tons of firebrand flying around. 595 00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:28,246 We're not really conscious, we know the wind's up, 596 00:32:28,379 --> 00:32:30,348 and we know that we're in an area that's, like, 597 00:32:30,481 --> 00:32:33,484 "This isn't feeling comfortable. Just keep going." You know? 598 00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:35,186 "Don't stop. Don't try to turn around. 599 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,990 Just... get to the other end of this." 600 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:40,258 That's the tree that got snapped off. 601 00:32:40,391 --> 00:32:44,662 You see the top of it snaps, disappears into the tornado, 602 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:47,665 and then gets shot out the top, into the lake. 603 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,704 Look at that. It's crazy. 604 00:32:55,973 --> 00:32:59,744 When we showed that video to the Forest Service, 605 00:32:59,877 --> 00:33:01,913 they were like, "Holy." Like, "Wow." 606 00:33:02,046 --> 00:33:04,882 Like, "We gotta get this to fire-behaviour guys." 607 00:33:23,267 --> 00:33:24,268 The intensities here 608 00:33:24,402 --> 00:33:27,672 were just absolutely incredible. 609 00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:54,932 [Leslie] We have two equipment depot locations. 610 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:55,967 We're in the south, 611 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,570 and we have one in the north. 612 00:34:00,104 --> 00:34:02,340 Our primary focus 613 00:34:02,473 --> 00:34:04,075 is to service the field operations. 614 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:05,943 That's why we exist. 615 00:34:06,077 --> 00:34:08,846 We purchase equipment. 616 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:11,282 We manage the equipment. 617 00:34:11,416 --> 00:34:16,287 All of this equipment belongs to the general public. 618 00:34:17,288 --> 00:34:18,990 It's to keep the province safe, 619 00:34:19,123 --> 00:34:21,559 and we are accountable. 620 00:34:22,493 --> 00:34:24,862 And then all those kits and everything, 621 00:34:24,996 --> 00:34:27,698 we'll deal with that after... 622 00:34:27,832 --> 00:34:29,434 [Leslie] With the exception of the odd foot powder 623 00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:31,202 that we don't want to have back, 624 00:34:31,335 --> 00:34:33,304 all of the equipment that goes out there 625 00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:34,038 has to come back home again... 626 00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:36,941 ...and then it goes into 627 00:34:37,074 --> 00:34:38,142 our maintenance and retrieval section, 628 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:42,680 where we do the investigation to see what they require 629 00:34:42,814 --> 00:34:45,983 in order for them to be serviceable. 630 00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:48,386 Right now, we're stretched thin, 631 00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,655 so we have to be very diligent 632 00:34:50,788 --> 00:34:54,992 in how we are spreading out our limited resources. 633 00:34:57,495 --> 00:35:01,199 We have to prioritize, a lot, 634 00:35:01,332 --> 00:35:04,068 especially when it comes to our critical equipment, 635 00:35:04,202 --> 00:35:07,004 and that's primarily pumps, hose, chainsaws, 636 00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:09,073 things of that nature. 637 00:35:09,207 --> 00:35:11,042 [♪♪♪] 638 00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:18,015 The province of BC is huge, 639 00:35:18,149 --> 00:35:21,018 and like you've seen this year, lots of fires. 640 00:35:21,152 --> 00:35:23,488 [♪♪♪] 641 00:35:34,465 --> 00:35:35,466 [Shannon] Everybody wants to give back 642 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,835 to the people who are in need right now, 643 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,537 but nobody knew how to accept everything 644 00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:40,071 and get it out to the people in need 645 00:35:40,204 --> 00:35:42,006 in that moment... 646 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:46,544 so Mamas for Mamas just stepped in 647 00:35:46,677 --> 00:35:48,946 to provide that organization, the structure. 648 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,584 It's a very grassroots approach, but it's working really well. 649 00:35:53,718 --> 00:35:54,919 We've processed more than a million and a half donations 650 00:35:55,052 --> 00:35:56,020 in the last four days. 651 00:35:56,153 --> 00:35:59,090 It has been 24/7. 652 00:35:59,223 --> 00:36:01,058 We had too many volunteers 653 00:36:01,192 --> 00:36:03,161 and too many donations to process, 654 00:36:03,294 --> 00:36:04,495 which is a really good problem to have. 655 00:36:04,629 --> 00:36:08,533 At least half of the people that have shown up to volunteer 656 00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:11,235 are evacuees themselves. 657 00:36:11,369 --> 00:36:14,172 Our goal is to make sure that anyone who was evacuated 658 00:36:14,305 --> 00:36:18,142 has the hygiene products, the essentials, the clothing, 659 00:36:18,276 --> 00:36:21,112 the little comforts for their babies. 660 00:36:21,245 --> 00:36:23,114 We've done about 1,200 meals to the firefighters 661 00:36:23,247 --> 00:36:25,816 in the last 72 hours, 662 00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:28,152 and Mamas has not paid for one bit of it. 663 00:36:28,286 --> 00:36:29,987 We heard the place 664 00:36:30,121 --> 00:36:32,957 that was feeding and housing the firefighters 665 00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:34,659 in Lake Country burned down last night, 666 00:36:34,792 --> 00:36:37,762 so UBC got 400 firefighters showing up, 667 00:36:37,895 --> 00:36:38,262 so they've been trying to feed them. 668 00:36:38,396 --> 00:36:41,165 [♪♪♪] 669 00:36:41,299 --> 00:36:42,967 Do we have any kind of prepared meals 670 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,235 we could bring out 671 00:36:44,368 --> 00:36:46,003 to the Lake Country Food Department right now? 672 00:36:46,137 --> 00:36:47,138 Yeah, I think we just got 200 delivered. 673 00:36:47,271 --> 00:36:50,441 Yes! 674 00:36:50,575 --> 00:36:53,010 [phone line ringing] 675 00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:54,412 [Cal] Hello? 676 00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:55,980 Hi, Cal. This is Shannon Christensen calling 677 00:36:56,113 --> 00:36:57,181 with Mamas for Mamas. 678 00:36:57,315 --> 00:36:59,016 I hear you have some hungry firefighters? 679 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:00,017 Yeah. Yeah, we do. Yeah. 680 00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:01,118 All right. I'm on my way. 681 00:37:01,252 --> 00:37:05,022 I'm on my way right now with 200 prepared meals. 682 00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:08,826 Oh, excellent! To, uh, Lake Country? 683 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,095 You betcha! And I'll be there in probably about 38 minutes. 684 00:37:11,228 --> 00:37:13,497 Excellent. 685 00:37:13,631 --> 00:37:15,800 Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. 686 00:37:15,933 --> 00:37:16,667 I'll text you the address shortly. 687 00:37:16,801 --> 00:37:17,635 Oh, great. And please let me know 688 00:37:17,768 --> 00:37:19,170 if you need water and Gatorade as well. 689 00:37:19,303 --> 00:37:21,505 Sure, okay. 690 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:22,840 Thank you so much. -Okay, thanks, Cal. 691 00:37:22,974 --> 00:37:23,641 -I really appreciate that. -Of course. 692 00:37:23,774 --> 00:37:26,043 Yeah, you betcha. Bye for now. 693 00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:27,912 Fuckin' rights! 694 00:37:32,116 --> 00:37:33,517 It's not just about putting out fires, 695 00:37:33,651 --> 00:37:36,153 and it's not just about filling gaps in this moment. 696 00:37:36,287 --> 00:37:37,154 It's about finding ways 697 00:37:37,288 --> 00:37:38,189 to remember that we're all human. 698 00:37:38,322 --> 00:37:40,191 We all need compassion 699 00:37:40,324 --> 00:37:42,560 at a time when it's at a premium. 700 00:37:42,693 --> 00:37:43,494 So there's some vegan stuff there... 701 00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,696 -Oh, very cool! -...and I don't know 702 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:47,498 if you guys want coffee and chips and that, 703 00:37:47,632 --> 00:37:48,833 'cause we have it if you do. 704 00:37:48,966 --> 00:37:50,167 I don't want to overload you with stuff that you don't need. 705 00:37:50,301 --> 00:37:51,235 We can take it and put it inside. 706 00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:54,472 [Shannon] Grief is love with nowhere to go. 707 00:37:54,605 --> 00:37:56,207 When you're grieving for your home, 708 00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:58,342 and you're hurting and worried for your kids, 709 00:37:58,476 --> 00:37:59,577 sometimes the best thing you can do 710 00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:01,712 is help somebody else. 711 00:38:01,846 --> 00:38:04,015 -Thank you. -Yeah, oh, my gosh, of course. 712 00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:05,583 [Shannon] It lets you feel like you're not doing it alone. 713 00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:07,551 It reminds you that when you need a hand, 714 00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:08,786 someone will be there for you. 715 00:38:08,919 --> 00:38:11,389 It's, uh, it's really sad to see so many people hurting, 716 00:38:11,522 --> 00:38:14,992 but it's so beautiful to see so many people wanting to help. 717 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,529 They are tired of pizza and hot dogs, 718 00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:20,231 and they were so freaking grateful today. 719 00:38:20,364 --> 00:38:22,333 Exclamation mark. 720 00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:23,067 Good work, guys. 721 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,436 [beeping] 722 00:39:16,053 --> 00:39:17,121 2017, the Elephant Hill Wildfire 723 00:39:17,254 --> 00:39:18,222 came through 724 00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:21,258 and took out the house we had been living in 725 00:39:21,392 --> 00:39:23,928 the last seven years, so... 726 00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:26,797 now, this is, this is tough to see. 727 00:39:26,931 --> 00:39:30,601 This is reliving 2017, for me, completely. 728 00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:35,072 It was hard for my kids especially 729 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:38,776 to come back to a place that they loved, 730 00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:42,079 had a lot of memories and... but, you know, 731 00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:47,952 that's what we had to work with is the memories, and... 732 00:39:48,319 --> 00:39:52,356 ...and that's all you can do is just rebuild 733 00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:56,594 and start those memories over again, 734 00:39:56,727 --> 00:40:01,632 but this is, uh... this makes it real. 735 00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:05,436 [♪♪♪] 736 00:40:10,407 --> 00:40:11,275 When my cabin burned down, 737 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:15,179 our boat was still attached to the dock. 738 00:40:15,312 --> 00:40:17,448 Keys were inside the cabin, 739 00:40:17,581 --> 00:40:21,452 and I sifted through the ashes, 740 00:40:21,585 --> 00:40:23,287 and I knew that if the house would've burned down, 741 00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:28,225 the keys would've dropped, and in a couple minutes I found, 742 00:40:28,359 --> 00:40:29,460 I was able to find the keys in the ashes, 743 00:40:29,593 --> 00:40:31,562 and cleaned them off, 744 00:40:31,695 --> 00:40:32,596 and they were able to start my boat. 745 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:36,500 [man] Three-five, bravo-bravo-three. Over. 746 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:42,206 There's nothing more haunting than a chimney being left. 747 00:40:42,339 --> 00:40:43,374 You know, the homeowners will just stand there 748 00:40:43,507 --> 00:40:46,677 and stare at it, like I did mine. 749 00:40:51,816 --> 00:40:52,483 My heart goes out to these people, 750 00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:56,320 that they have to start over... 751 00:40:56,454 --> 00:41:00,424 but this is why, this is why I do what I do. 752 00:41:07,565 --> 00:41:11,135 [♪♪♪] 753 00:41:28,052 --> 00:41:31,121 [John] I thought every one of those cabins was gone. 754 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:37,261 I thought they'd lost every one of those houses, 755 00:41:37,394 --> 00:41:39,263 you know, from about here, down. 756 00:41:39,396 --> 00:41:41,365 You know, at least a third of the lake... 757 00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:48,873 but with the structural stuff you guys did, 758 00:41:49,006 --> 00:41:51,308 yeah, I was surprised this morning. 759 00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,377 I go for a walk every day, 760 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:56,714 and this morning, you could see across and see, 761 00:41:56,847 --> 00:42:00,384 and I thought, "Geez, they did a real job." 762 00:42:06,724 --> 00:42:07,458 Pretty impressed. 763 00:42:07,591 --> 00:42:10,995 [chainsaw buzzing] 764 00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:19,069 Fire's died down, for now. 765 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,473 We need to get into places 766 00:42:22,606 --> 00:42:25,009 to make sure that there's nothing else smoldering 767 00:42:25,142 --> 00:42:28,245 that could lead up and creep towards a structure. 768 00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:30,347 [timber snapping] 769 00:42:30,481 --> 00:42:32,950 So that's... our number-one goal 770 00:42:33,083 --> 00:42:36,787 where there is fire involvement close to structures, 771 00:42:36,921 --> 00:42:38,589 but definitely our priority is to continue to protect 772 00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:41,358 the structures that are not burned 773 00:42:41,492 --> 00:42:42,626 that are still at risk... 774 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,295 [chainsawing] 775 00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:46,130 ...where they have fuel in front of them, 776 00:42:46,263 --> 00:42:47,331 where the fire could spark up again 777 00:42:47,464 --> 00:42:49,700 with a little bit of wind, 778 00:42:49,833 --> 00:42:50,801 so we're not out of the woods yet. 779 00:42:50,935 --> 00:42:53,470 We have a lot of fuel, a lot of heat up there... 780 00:42:53,604 --> 00:42:56,407 [tree cracking] 781 00:42:56,674 --> 00:42:59,510 ...but we have our protection in place, 782 00:42:59,643 --> 00:43:01,845 and we are making sure that it's all working, 783 00:43:01,979 --> 00:43:04,014 and the other crews are also out there 784 00:43:04,148 --> 00:43:08,285 trying to head it off with guards, with bucketing, 785 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:10,321 so we're trying to cool the head of the fire 786 00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:12,656 that's just ahead, up above us on the hill there. 787 00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:14,558 [helicopter rotors beating] 788 00:43:34,845 --> 00:43:36,413 [Paul] The major firefight was 24 hours, 789 00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:40,017 and after that, we went into what's called mop-up stage, 790 00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:44,555 which is going from fire to fire, 791 00:43:44,688 --> 00:43:46,056 from smoke to smoke, 792 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:48,158 and completely extinguishing 793 00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:50,427 anything that could possibly come back up. 794 00:43:50,561 --> 00:43:53,197 That went on for 28 days. 795 00:43:53,330 --> 00:43:56,133 [♪♪♪] 796 00:44:02,740 --> 00:44:05,275 [Paul] We calculated that in order to have 797 00:44:05,409 --> 00:44:08,212 actually made significant differences 798 00:44:08,345 --> 00:44:09,680 in the amount of homes saved, 799 00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:11,515 we would have needed 90 apparatus. 800 00:44:11,648 --> 00:44:13,784 We have three. 801 00:44:14,818 --> 00:44:17,621 But you can't go back in hindsight 802 00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:20,758 and go, "Oh, geez, I wish I did this, I did that." 803 00:44:20,891 --> 00:44:23,227 I walk away from it as... 804 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,098 that was the largest fire we had since 2003. 805 00:44:28,232 --> 00:44:28,966 No one died, 806 00:44:29,099 --> 00:44:30,634 and there were very few injuries. 807 00:44:30,768 --> 00:44:34,304 So, yeah, could that have gone better? 808 00:44:34,438 --> 00:44:35,205 Maybe. 809 00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:35,739 Would we have made a huge difference 810 00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:36,607 in any direction? 811 00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:38,475 I don't think so. 812 00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:41,045 [♪♪♪] 813 00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:45,883 Personally, I believe 814 00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:47,551 you can't let something like this just happen 815 00:44:47,684 --> 00:44:49,753 without trying to improve 816 00:44:49,887 --> 00:44:52,156 and trying to benefit in some way, 817 00:44:52,289 --> 00:44:54,491 so we learned a tremendous amount, 818 00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:57,161 how to prepare, how to deal with, 819 00:44:57,294 --> 00:45:00,330 how to come out of these large events. 820 00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:03,934 Hopefully there's additional resources 821 00:45:04,068 --> 00:45:05,903 from the federal government and provincial government 822 00:45:06,036 --> 00:45:08,172 that can assist with that process, 823 00:45:08,305 --> 00:45:09,907 because it does eventually come down to money. 824 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,242 If you don't have the resources to react, 825 00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:14,511 then, well... things are gonna burn. 826 00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:16,980 That's the last photo of my house 827 00:45:17,114 --> 00:45:18,615 that I took that night. 828 00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:22,686 We have basically five ranks of fire activity, 829 00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:25,789 but in the last number of years, 830 00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:27,791 we've added a sixth. 831 00:45:27,925 --> 00:45:29,593 It's basically the Westside Road here 832 00:45:29,726 --> 00:45:32,029 and then Jenny Creek's in there. 833 00:45:37,901 --> 00:45:39,937 I'm no climatologist. 834 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:42,606 I don't forecast weather or trends, 835 00:45:42,739 --> 00:45:46,944 but I do see the fact that it's warmer and drier, 836 00:45:47,077 --> 00:45:49,947 and the fires are not stoppable... 837 00:45:51,281 --> 00:45:53,550 so how you prepare and how you react 838 00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:57,788 is what's going to make the biggest difference. 839 00:46:06,830 --> 00:46:09,666 That's my little piece of paradise. 840 00:46:18,642 --> 00:46:18,742 [stopping engine] 841 00:46:36,693 --> 00:46:39,129 There's my kitchen. 842 00:46:40,964 --> 00:46:44,601 Sorry, you might get some dark humour out of this. 843 00:46:44,735 --> 00:46:46,603 I've been looking at this for six weeks now, 844 00:46:46,737 --> 00:46:48,872 and it's not getting any better, but... 845 00:46:49,006 --> 00:46:50,040 what are you gonna do? 846 00:46:50,174 --> 00:46:52,976 You gotta laugh about it and just go forward. 847 00:46:54,344 --> 00:46:58,682 We came here in 2013 and went to look at lots. 848 00:46:58,815 --> 00:46:59,750 This was the first lot we saw. 849 00:46:59,883 --> 00:47:02,452 Just absolutely fell in love with the trees, 850 00:47:02,586 --> 00:47:03,754 fell in love with the neighbourhood, 851 00:47:03,887 --> 00:47:04,721 fell in love with the people and the view, 852 00:47:04,855 --> 00:47:08,759 and decided to move here from the coast. 853 00:47:08,892 --> 00:47:10,794 We drew the house. We dug the hole. 854 00:47:10,928 --> 00:47:13,697 We, uh... built the house. 855 00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:16,233 Um, my wife tied the rebar, 856 00:47:16,366 --> 00:47:17,901 um, and it was perfect. 857 00:47:20,771 --> 00:47:21,705 I saw it burn from Westside Road. 858 00:47:21,838 --> 00:47:23,707 It was not possible to drive up the road. 859 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,809 I-I tried to drive up the road. 860 00:47:25,943 --> 00:47:26,910 I only got a couple of hundred metres, 861 00:47:27,044 --> 00:47:29,546 and there was just a wall of fire, 862 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:29,746 just no way you could've driven through it. 863 00:47:33,016 --> 00:47:35,919 I never thought it was gonna happen to us. 864 00:47:36,053 --> 00:47:38,822 We did not take the things that we would have taken 865 00:47:38,956 --> 00:47:41,592 if we actually seriously considered 866 00:47:41,725 --> 00:47:43,560 that this was gonna be a thing. 867 00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:46,430 We were here for eight years, and it was perfect. 868 00:47:46,563 --> 00:47:48,832 We had no intentions of leaving or rebuilding, 869 00:47:48,966 --> 00:47:52,669 um... and yeah, here it is now. 870 00:47:52,803 --> 00:47:55,906 [truck engine starting] 871 00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:02,479 We're on Hamilton Court. 872 00:48:02,613 --> 00:48:03,814 It's probably the worst concentrated area 873 00:48:03,947 --> 00:48:07,651 of most structures lost. 874 00:48:07,784 --> 00:48:11,521 This one here is the ex-chief from our fire department. 875 00:48:11,655 --> 00:48:13,523 That's her house. 876 00:48:15,659 --> 00:48:17,661 We have 24 members on the fire department. 877 00:48:17,794 --> 00:48:20,264 13 members out of 24 878 00:48:20,397 --> 00:48:23,467 lost their houses on that first night. 879 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,869 The impact on us is huge when we lose a structure, 880 00:48:26,003 --> 00:48:28,705 um, but it's more if it's one of our own, right? 881 00:48:28,839 --> 00:48:30,440 It just... it's just normal, right? 882 00:48:30,574 --> 00:48:32,943 It's just the guy working next to you, fighting fire, 883 00:48:33,076 --> 00:48:34,478 just lost his house, 884 00:48:34,611 --> 00:48:36,980 and he's still here fighting fire, so... 885 00:48:37,114 --> 00:48:38,715 sorry, I'm gonna tear up. 886 00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:39,983 Um... 887 00:48:40,117 --> 00:48:41,718 yeah, that part sucked. 888 00:48:41,852 --> 00:48:44,221 It was brutal. Absolutely brutal. 889 00:48:45,188 --> 00:48:45,822 But, yeah, everybody stayed on the line. 890 00:48:45,956 --> 00:48:46,823 Nobody left. 891 00:48:46,957 --> 00:48:49,693 Nobody, you know, curled up in a ball 892 00:48:49,826 --> 00:48:51,228 and started crying. 893 00:48:51,361 --> 00:48:55,165 Done lots of crying since then, but that first 48 hours, 894 00:48:55,299 --> 00:48:58,135 the whole department did what they were supposed to do. 895 00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:00,237 Yeah. It was incredible. 896 00:49:04,007 --> 00:49:05,809 Next time on Wildfire... 897 00:49:08,178 --> 00:49:09,846 I'm always thinking about fire. 898 00:49:09,980 --> 00:49:12,749 It's an obsession, really. 899 00:49:14,051 --> 00:49:17,688 My main role is to work with communities 900 00:49:17,821 --> 00:49:19,890 to help provide protection from wildfire. 901 00:49:20,023 --> 00:49:22,726 My name's Ryan Pascal. 902 00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:27,597 I've been the Salish Nation unit crew supervisor for 36 years. 903 00:49:27,731 --> 00:49:31,335 Salish unit crew is all First Nations since the start, 904 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:34,538 and I currently took the role just this past spring. 905 00:49:36,506 --> 00:49:40,043 We're seeing flames 300 feet above treetops. 906 00:49:40,177 --> 00:49:42,612 We were a kilometre away, 907 00:49:42,746 --> 00:49:45,415 you could actually feel the fire indrafting. 908 00:49:45,549 --> 00:49:48,919 We could feel the helicopter being sucked in. 909 00:49:49,052 --> 00:49:51,388 There was stress there, 910 00:49:51,521 --> 00:49:52,589 of, like, okay, now what are we going to do? 911 00:49:52,723 --> 00:49:54,992 If something goes wrong here, where are our options? 69069

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