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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 -00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,880 That I've been Puzzling over for halfmy Iife. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Fifty yea rs ago, I ca me here to the isla nd of Madagasca r 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,040 to ma ke a series of prog ra m mes a bout the isla nd's rema rka ble wi ld life. 4 00:00:16,441 --> 00:00:19,321 That was way back in the early days of television, 5 00:00:19,401 --> 00:00:21,641 when everhing was in black and white. 6 00:00:21,721 --> 00:00:25,321 It was one of the first natural history series that I'd made. 7 00:00:25,561 --> 00:00:29,561 Madagasca r lies i n the Ind ia n Ocea n, here. 8 00:00:30,121 --> 00:00:32,762 And even on a g lobe th is size, it looks a ti ny isla nd, 9 00:00:32,842 --> 00:00:36,442 perha ps beca use it's dwa rfed by th is vast conti nent of Africa. 10 00:00:36,522 --> 00:00:38,642 But, i n fact, it's a n i m mense isla nd, 11 00:00:38,962 --> 00:00:42,362 over 1,000 m i les long, bigger tha n the British Isles. 12 00:00:43,682 --> 00:00:47,002 I was astonished by the animals I saw. 13 00:00:47,522 --> 00:00:50,363 They were unlike anhing Iiving elsewhere. 14 00:00:51,763 --> 00:00:54,323 And wh i le I was here, m uch to my su rprise, 15 00:00:54,403 --> 00:00:56,923 I acq u i red a n extraord i na ry object 16 00:00:57,003 --> 00:01:00,123 that has been one of my most treasu red possessions ever si nce. 17 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:05,643 Down in the south of the island, I found, Iying in the desert sand, 18 00:01:05,723 --> 00:01:08,764 Pieces of what Iooked Iike very thick eggshell. 19 00:01:10,564 --> 00:01:14,204 I knew that a huge, extinct bird had once Iived down here. 20 00:01:14,764 --> 00:01:17,044 These must be bits ofits eggs. 21 00:01:17,124 --> 00:01:19,644 I asked the Iocal PeoPle about them. 22 00:01:19,964 --> 00:01:22,164 They were more than obliging. 23 00:01:27,565 --> 00:01:29,325 The fragments were all small, 24 00:01:29,405 --> 00:01:32,685 and couldgive Iittle idea of the size ofa comPlete egg. 25 00:01:32,765 --> 00:01:35,445 But, then, a young boy brought in these. 26 00:01:41,485 --> 00:01:45,966 A t first, I thought they wereJust a collection of eXcePtionally big bits 27 00:01:46,046 --> 00:01:48,526 that he hadPicked uP over some time. 28 00:01:48,606 --> 00:01:53,046 But then I noticed that two of them Iooked as if they might fit together. 29 00:01:53,206 --> 00:01:57,606 I had, aPParently, got myself a three-dimensionalJigsawPuzzle. 30 00:02:00,367 --> 00:02:01,967 And they did fit. 31 00:02:02,047 --> 00:02:06,407 So IJoined them with the sticky taPe we used to seal our film cans. 32 00:02:11,087 --> 00:02:13,847 Soon, I had built uP two halves. 33 00:02:18,368 --> 00:02:21,688 This was a single, immense egg. 34 00:02:25,048 --> 00:02:27,928 And it was virtually comPlete. 35 00:02:29,128 --> 00:02:32,968 I reckoned it must have contained as much as L4Ø chicken eggs. 36 00:02:33,608 --> 00:02:36,969 The bird that Iaid it must have been a giant, indeed. 37 00:02:39,249 --> 00:02:41,369 But this raised all kinds ofquestions. 38 00:02:41,449 --> 00:02:44,329 How old was this egg? When did the bird die out? 39 00:02:44,409 --> 00:02:48,849 And what does it tell us about man's relationshiP with the wildlife here? 40 00:02:56,490 --> 00:03:01,090 H ere is the egg, professiona lly put together, a lmost as good as new. 41 00:03:02,170 --> 00:03:05,370 It is, to me at a ny rate, a wonderfu l object. 42 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:10,131 After a ll, it's the la rgest egg ever la id by a nyth i ng. 43 00:03:11,171 --> 00:03:16,571 But what pa rticu la rly fasci nates me is the thoug ht of the bi rd that la id it. 44 00:03:17,131 --> 00:03:19,091 What sort of a creatu re was it? 45 00:03:21,891 --> 00:03:25,812 Well, stories a bout g iga ntic bi rds have been ci rcu lati ng 46 00:03:25,892 --> 00:03:28,532 i n Eu rope si nce the 1 3th centu ry. 47 00:03:28,812 --> 00:03:33,452 When Ma rco Polo, the g reat Venetia n traveller a nd explorer, 48 00:03:33,532 --> 00:03:36,932 ca me back from the east with stories of a h uge bi rd, 49 00:03:37,012 --> 00:03:41,132 so big that its wi ngs covered a n extent of 30 paces 50 00:03:41,212 --> 00:03:44,053 a nd its q u i lls were 1 2 paces long, 51 00:03:44,133 --> 00:03:48,453 a nd it's so strong that it' ll seize a n elepha nt i n its ta lons 52 00:03:48,533 --> 00:03:50,725 a nd ca rry h i m h ig h i nto the a i r a nd 53 00:03:50,737 --> 00:03:52,893 d rop h i m so that he is smashed to pieces. 54 00:03:53,933 --> 00:03:57,733 Stories of a bi rd so big they cou ld lift a n elepha nt. 55 00:03:58,693 --> 00:04:02,014 And that's what gave it the name of "elePhant bird". 56 00:04:03,974 --> 00:04:06,974 But after those rather u n believa ble stories, 57 00:04:07,054 --> 00:04:10,534 there were other, more concrete stories, too, 58 00:04:10,614 --> 00:04:12,294 i n the 1 7th centu ry. 59 00:04:12,374 --> 00:04:16,094 Th is is a n accou nt of Madagasca r written by Flacou rt, 60 00:04:16,174 --> 00:04:18,775 who was a French governor of the isla nd. 61 00:04:18,855 --> 00:04:23,295 And he lists a ll the a n i ma ls that he knows i n the isla nd of Madagasca r, 62 00:04:23,375 --> 00:04:25,415 a nd he d raws most of them. 63 00:04:25,775 --> 00:04:27,855 But if you look th roug h here, 64 00:04:27,935 --> 00:04:31,455 there's no pictu re of a bi rd that cou ld be a n elepha nt bi rd. 65 00:04:31,535 --> 00:04:35,016 There's a n eg ret, there's a heron, but noth i ng bigger. 66 00:04:36,856 --> 00:04:42,096 But he does say that there was a big, ostrich-li ke bi rd 67 00:04:42,176 --> 00:04:44,256 i n the south of the isla nd. 68 00:04:44,336 --> 00:04:50,216 So maybe he hea rd stories of the elepha nt bi rd. 69 00:04:50,816 --> 00:04:53,657 But was it a live then? H e doesn 't say. 70 00:04:55,377 --> 00:05:00,817 Of cou rse, we know now that the bi rd is certa i n ly exti nct. 71 00:05:01,617 --> 00:05:03,617 But when d id it d isa ppea r? 72 00:05:04,817 --> 00:05:07,217 Si nce I collected th is egg, 73 00:05:07,297 --> 00:05:10,938 tech n iq ues have been developed wh ich ena ble us to date it. 74 00:05:11,218 --> 00:05:15,178 So I've sent off a sma ll frag ment of it for that to be done. 75 00:05:16,498 --> 00:05:19,458 It will take a Iittle time for the results to come through, 76 00:05:19,538 --> 00:05:23,578 but, after Ø years, Iguess I can wait a few weeks Ionger. 77 00:05:29,059 --> 00:05:31,339 Meanwhile, I'm off to Madagascar, 78 00:05:31,419 --> 00:05:33,579 to have another Iook at its wonderful animals 79 00:05:33,659 --> 00:05:37,019 and see how things have changed in the Iast Ø years. 80 00:05:37,859 --> 00:05:41,499 Some sPecies are thought to have disaPPeared since I was Iast here 81 00:05:41,579 --> 00:05:44,260 and new ones have also been discovered. 82 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:48,900 Could the story of the elePhant bird, whatever it turns out to be, 83 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:52,020 helP me understand what's going on there today? 84 00:05:58,340 --> 00:06:02,901 Fiftyyears ago, Madagascar was Iittle known, certainly in Britain. 85 00:06:03,221 --> 00:06:06,901 Until only a fewyears before, it had been a French colony. 86 00:06:07,901 --> 00:06:12,061 I really didn 't know anhing about it and started to read about it. 87 00:06:12,541 --> 00:06:15,421 And the on ly i llustrations I cou ld fi nd were d rawi ngs 88 00:06:15,501 --> 00:06:19,102 or photog ra phs of stuffed speci mens i n French pu blications. 89 00:06:19,182 --> 00:06:24,222 And so I thoug ht, "Okay, that's g reat. N obody else has fi lmed there." 90 00:06:24,582 --> 00:06:28,262 And I don 't th i n k there had rea lly been a ny natu ra l h istory fi lm made 91 00:06:28,342 --> 00:06:31,822 i n Madagasca r at a ll i n 1 960 that I cou ld fi nd. 92 00:06:33,622 --> 00:06:36,903 It wasJust me and GeoffMulligan with his camera. 93 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,343 And we were there for four months. 94 00:06:39,423 --> 00:06:44,503 Because the island has been cut off for so Iong, evolution has had a chance 95 00:06:44,583 --> 00:06:48,863 to Produce a whole range of unique animals andPlants. 96 00:06:53,424 --> 00:06:56,184 But, first, what about the elePhant bird? 97 00:06:56,584 --> 00:06:59,784 Beyond the Iegends, what more do we know about it? 98 00:07:05,944 --> 00:07:10,745 The country's caPital is Tananarivo, or Tana, as the Iocals call it. 99 00:07:11,105 --> 00:07:14,545 And the Place to go ifyou want to find out about the island's natural history 100 00:07:14,625 --> 00:07:16,585 is, obviously, its museum. 101 00:07:19,025 --> 00:07:21,545 It had stuffed examPles ofsome of the animals 102 00:07:21,625 --> 00:07:23,905 I already knew something about. 103 00:07:29,506 --> 00:07:34,706 But I also found a mounted skeleton of the huge bird that interests me so much, 104 00:07:36,226 --> 00:07:38,546 one of the very few that exists. 105 00:07:41,706 --> 00:07:44,786 So how ta ll was the elepha nt bi rd? 106 00:07:45,267 --> 00:07:47,067 N ot a n easy q uestion to a nswer, 107 00:07:47,147 --> 00:07:50,467 beca use very few skeletons a re tota lly com plete. 108 00:07:50,907 --> 00:07:54,387 And so, ma ny of the mou nted speci mens have been put together 109 00:07:54,467 --> 00:07:57,627 with a n u m ber of bones from d ifferent speci mens. 110 00:07:58,227 --> 00:08:01,947 And if you get overenth usiastic, maybe it's q u ite possi ble 111 00:08:02,027 --> 00:08:04,508 that you stick i n one or two extra neck bones, 112 00:08:04,588 --> 00:08:07,748 so we ca n 't be su re a bout the length of the neck. 113 00:08:08,268 --> 00:08:11,468 N or ca n we be su re a bout the postu re, rea lly. 114 00:08:11,828 --> 00:08:15,028 Th is one looks to me rather front heavy, 115 00:08:15,108 --> 00:08:20,429 a nd it cou ld well be that, i n life, the a n i ma l was more u prig ht, 116 00:08:20,509 --> 00:08:23,389 i n wh ich case, it stood very ta ll i ndeed. 117 00:08:23,469 --> 00:08:26,629 What, 1 0 feet, 1 2 feet? That sort of size, 118 00:08:26,709 --> 00:08:31,149 i n order to be a ble to reach the leaves of trees on wh ich it browsed. 119 00:08:31,669 --> 00:08:35,469 But a more safe cha racteristic is weig ht. 120 00:08:36,229 --> 00:08:40,390 And you ca n be fa i rly su re the esti mate of that, 121 00:08:40,470 --> 00:08:44,870 a nd it's reckoned that the elepha nt bi rd weig hed a rou nd ha lf a ton ne. 122 00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:54,711 The extinct moas ofNewZealand might PerhaPs have been taller, 123 00:08:54,791 --> 00:08:57,991 but this was certainly the heaviest bird that ever existed. 124 00:08:58,071 --> 00:09:01,071 And, of course, it was flightless, Iike an ostrich. 125 00:09:02,271 --> 00:09:04,071 Most ofits remains have been found 126 00:09:04,151 --> 00:09:06,631 down in the dry, hot southern end of the island, 127 00:09:06,711 --> 00:09:09,351 where I had collected my egg fragments. 128 00:09:09,871 --> 00:09:12,952 So, on Ieaving Tana, that's where we headed. 129 00:09:14,592 --> 00:09:17,232 Sou nds li ke forever, 50 yea rs, to me. 130 00:09:17,352 --> 00:09:19,392 But it's rea lly the day before yesterday, I reckon, 131 00:09:19,432 --> 00:09:22,232 that I was here doi ng that sort of stuff. 132 00:09:22,872 --> 00:09:25,352 I can 't believe that it's Ø years. 133 00:09:33,193 --> 00:09:36,953 Southern Madagascar really is one of the oddest Places in the world, 134 00:09:37,033 --> 00:09:40,073 if only because of its bizarre vegetation. 135 00:09:45,273 --> 00:09:48,234 I had n 't known what the spi ny forest was, 136 00:09:48,314 --> 00:09:52,434 that there shou ld be pla nts, li ke long fi ngers, 137 00:09:52,514 --> 00:09:55,074 2 0 feet h ig h, 30 feet h ig h, 138 00:09:55,154 --> 00:09:58,394 with spi nes a ll over them a nd little leaves, you know? 139 00:09:58,474 --> 00:09:59,954 Extraordinary. 140 00:10:00,714 --> 00:10:04,035 This sPiny forest was once widesPread in the south. 141 00:10:04,235 --> 00:10:07,355 But now there are only a fewPockets ofit Ieft. 142 00:10:12,915 --> 00:10:16,315 Big Ieaves would Iose a Iot ofPrecious water in a hot desert, 143 00:10:16,395 --> 00:10:18,315 so these Plants have very small ones 144 00:10:18,395 --> 00:10:22,236 that are Protected from browsing animals by sharP sPines. 145 00:10:23,356 --> 00:10:25,076 But what browsers? 146 00:10:26,036 --> 00:10:28,676 Presumably, one was the elePhant bird. 147 00:10:32,276 --> 00:10:34,796 Some browsers, however, are still around, 148 00:10:34,876 --> 00:10:37,716 and Ø years ago, we went to Iook for them. 149 00:10:42,357 --> 00:10:46,517 The sPines make this a fairly uncomfortable Place to move around in. 150 00:10:51,437 --> 00:10:54,197 But, eventually, we found those browsers. 151 00:10:56,478 --> 00:10:58,398 And they're still here. 152 00:11:00,478 --> 00:11:03,398 Sifakas, a wonderful kind of Iemur. 153 00:11:04,158 --> 00:11:07,318 They' re feed i ng on ba rk, stri ppi ng away the ba rk. 154 00:11:11,678 --> 00:11:13,999 They' re not pa rticu la rly u pset by my presence, 155 00:11:14,079 --> 00:11:17,839 a ny more tha n they were when I fi rst saw them 50 yea rs ago. 156 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:24,599 What is aston ish i ng a bout them is the way they move th roug h the forest. 157 00:11:25,599 --> 00:11:27,359 Very u n li ke mon keys. 158 00:11:27,959 --> 00:11:30,960 Mon keys, when they lea p, lea p ha nds fi rst, 159 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,640 with thei r torsos more or less level. 160 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,000 But these ma rvellous creatu res j u m p u prig ht, 161 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,880 beca use they la nd with thei r feet fi rst, 162 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,160 wh ich accou nts for why, when they come down to the g rou nd, very ra rely, 163 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,121 thei r legs a re so long that they ca n 't wa lk on a ll fou rs, 164 00:11:50,201 --> 00:11:51,881 as ma ny mon keys do, 165 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:56,561 but have to sta nd u prig ht on thei r very long legs a nd thei r rather short a rms. 166 00:11:56,641 --> 00:12:00,441 And that g ives them th is lovely ba lletic movement 167 00:12:00,521 --> 00:12:03,001 when they get a rou nd on the g rou nd. 168 00:12:07,002 --> 00:12:10,482 There a re q u ite a n u m ber of d ifferent species of these. 169 00:12:11,122 --> 00:12:14,002 And they d iffer mostly i n thei r colou ration. 170 00:12:14,522 --> 00:12:19,962 N ow, th is one with its da rk brown ca p, 171 00:12:20,042 --> 00:12:23,043 a nd I th i n k th is is actua lly one of the loveliest. 172 00:12:26,123 --> 00:12:30,443 I ca n j ust hea r them ma ki ng that slig ht "sifa, sifa" noise, 173 00:12:30,923 --> 00:12:34,803 wh ich is a ki nd of a slig ht, I th i n k, u neasy noise 174 00:12:34,883 --> 00:12:37,243 that they ma ke when they' re j ust a little worried, 175 00:12:37,323 --> 00:12:40,204 a nd wh ich g ives them thei r na me of "sifa ka ". 176 00:12:45,524 --> 00:12:49,924 Thei r faces, with that long snout a nd moist nose, 177 00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,924 a re rea lly rather dog-li ke. 178 00:12:53,804 --> 00:12:58,085 But it's when you see thei r ha nds that you rea lise 179 00:12:58,165 --> 00:13:00,805 they' re related to mon keys a nd to us, 180 00:13:01,045 --> 00:13:03,245 these g raspi ng ha nds. 181 00:13:04,605 --> 00:13:10,165 And I've actua lly had a pet lem u r a long, long ti me ago. 182 00:13:10,765 --> 00:13:14,045 And it held on to my ha nd i n the most cha rm i ng way. 183 00:13:16,366 --> 00:13:18,806 Dn that first triP, I kePt aJournal. 184 00:13:18,886 --> 00:13:22,046 And reading it now reminds me ofhow excitedl was 185 00:13:22,126 --> 00:13:24,926 seeing these creatures for the first time. 186 00:13:26,086 --> 00:13:29,526 "Before they sta rted feed i ng, the ad u lt ma le a nd fema le 187 00:13:29,606 --> 00:13:33,007 "treated us to a ca ptivati ng d isplay of wrestli ng. 188 00:13:33,687 --> 00:13:36,927 "The fema le was sitti ng on her bottom on the bra nch, with her feet da ng li ng, 189 00:13:37,007 --> 00:13:40,127 "wh i le the ma le ca me a long a nd put a ha lf-nelson on her. 190 00:13:40,207 --> 00:13:41,527 "Then the match started. 191 00:13:41,607 --> 00:13:44,047 "There was no question ofsex, nor ofaggression, 192 00:13:44,127 --> 00:13:45,967 "for they often broke off to Iook at us. 193 00:13:46,047 --> 00:13:48,928 "It was Pure Play and enchanting to watch." 194 00:13:56,848 --> 00:13:59,688 I've got notes here of what we fi lmed. 195 00:13:59,768 --> 00:14:02,008 Well, it's a ll 1 00-foot reels. 196 00:14:02,128 --> 00:14:05,088 A 1 00-foot reel ru ns for two m i n utes, 40. 197 00:14:05,808 --> 00:14:07,065 And you know, two m i n utes, 40, 198 00:14:07,089 --> 00:14:10,009 a nd you 've got to stop a nd ta ke the th i ng out, as well. 199 00:14:10,089 --> 00:14:13,169 And, of cou rse, the lenses we had were very poor, 200 00:14:13,249 --> 00:14:14,505 a nd we d id n 't have zooms either. 201 00:14:14,529 --> 00:14:17,369 So that now, if you see someth i ng u p there, 202 00:14:17,449 --> 00:14:21,169 you get the wide shot a nd then you zoom i n q u ickly a nd you 've got it. 203 00:14:21,249 --> 00:14:24,370 But if you d id that then, you 'd have to ta ke that lens out 204 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:27,090 a nd put on a nother socki ng g reat lens. 205 00:14:34,010 --> 00:14:38,410 I had never seen a livi ng sifa ka u nti l I ca me here to Madagasca r. 206 00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:43,051 It was such a shock a nd a th ri ll 207 00:14:43,131 --> 00:14:45,971 to see them i n the wi ld for the fi rst ti me. 208 00:14:47,331 --> 00:14:51,651 And it's j ust a bout as g reat a th ri ll rig ht now, 209 00:14:51,731 --> 00:14:54,411 as they' re bou nd i ng away on the g rou nd. 210 00:15:06,812 --> 00:15:11,452 Sifakas are well adaPted to Iiving in this world ofsPines and thorns, 211 00:15:11,532 --> 00:15:14,012 and so, doubtless, was the elePhant bird. 212 00:15:14,092 --> 00:15:17,293 But adaPtation is often a two-wayProcess. 213 00:15:18,213 --> 00:15:22,253 Th is is the seed of a pa rticu la rly stra nge pla nt 214 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:25,373 that g rows i n th is a rid spi ny forest. 215 00:15:26,253 --> 00:15:30,533 It is a rmed with a series of ferocious hooks, 216 00:15:30,613 --> 00:15:34,214 wh ich wou ld have ca ug ht on the legs of the elepha nt bi rd, 217 00:15:34,574 --> 00:15:37,174 a nd so be d istri buted th roug hout the forest. 218 00:15:38,614 --> 00:15:42,094 Now, Presumably, it's us and our cattle who do theJob. 219 00:15:44,854 --> 00:15:47,854 As you go farther south, it gets drier and hotter, 220 00:15:47,934 --> 00:15:49,814 until, eventually, there's not enough moisture 221 00:15:49,894 --> 00:15:52,255 to sustain even the sPiny forest. 222 00:15:52,335 --> 00:15:56,215 And here, once again, I found egg fragments, Iots of them. 223 00:15:58,055 --> 00:16:02,615 Fiftyyears ago, I thought I'd been amazingly sharP-eyed to find a few bits. 224 00:16:02,695 --> 00:16:07,215 Andl certainly was very Iucky to be brought enough to reconstruct an egg. 225 00:16:07,856 --> 00:16:09,896 But there were so manyPieces here, 226 00:16:09,976 --> 00:16:12,296 I think that I must have been half-blind before, 227 00:16:12,376 --> 00:16:14,536 or in quite the wrong Place. 228 00:16:16,296 --> 00:16:20,256 Of cou rse, these th ick shells don 't tu rn to powder, 229 00:16:20,336 --> 00:16:24,176 li ke, say, ch icken eggshells wou ld do over a few days, 230 00:16:24,256 --> 00:16:27,297 but rema i n solid a nd fi rm for a long ti me. 231 00:16:27,497 --> 00:16:31,337 Even so, there a re vast q ua ntities of shell out there. 232 00:16:32,017 --> 00:16:36,177 So there m ust have been a very su bsta ntia l popu lation of bi rds. 233 00:16:36,777 --> 00:16:38,417 What ha ppened to them? 234 00:16:41,297 --> 00:16:44,418 Now it's so arid that it's difficult to imagine 235 00:16:44,498 --> 00:16:47,698 huge flocks ofgiant flightless birds Iiving here. 236 00:16:48,378 --> 00:16:50,458 But they must have done so. 237 00:16:51,538 --> 00:16:54,738 How greatly has the climate ofMadagascar changed? 238 00:16:54,938 --> 00:16:59,098 We can get clues from examining the fossilised bones of other animals 239 00:16:59,178 --> 00:17:02,419 that were around at the same time as the elePhant bird. 240 00:17:02,499 --> 00:17:05,419 And there were certainly some very extraordinary ones, 241 00:17:05,499 --> 00:17:10,019 some quite tiny, and some giants quite unlike anhing around now. 242 00:17:15,659 --> 00:17:19,780 Th is is the sku ll of the biggest of a ll the lem u rs. 243 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:22,540 It's got a head m uch bigger tha n m i ne. 244 00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:26,460 And, i ndeed, it was proba bly a bout the size of a you ng gori lla. 245 00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:29,860 Th is a n i ma l lived i n trees, 246 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:34,621 a nd that's confi rmed by a look at its teeth. 247 00:17:35,381 --> 00:17:38,701 These a re the teeth of a leaf-eati ng a n i ma l, 248 00:17:39,061 --> 00:17:43,861 not a g razer, not a meat eater, but a leaf eater. 249 00:17:44,981 --> 00:17:48,621 So th is a n i ma l lived i n trees, 250 00:17:48,701 --> 00:17:52,302 a nd proba bly h u ng a rou nd, rather li ke a koa la, 251 00:17:52,382 --> 00:17:54,542 on ly very, very m uch bigger. 252 00:17:54,902 --> 00:17:58,542 And that tells us that where th is lived, there was forest. 253 00:18:02,142 --> 00:18:06,182 The rolling hills of the island are now nearly all bare of trees. 254 00:18:06,742 --> 00:18:08,983 Yet bones of this giant Iemur have been found 255 00:18:09,063 --> 00:18:12,543 in many widely-seParatedPlaces all over the island, 256 00:18:12,623 --> 00:18:16,663 strong evidence that, once, the whole ofMadagascar was forested. 257 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:19,223 When I was here Ø years ago, 258 00:18:19,303 --> 00:18:22,223 I sPeculated that elePhant birds had disaPPeared 259 00:18:22,303 --> 00:18:24,263 because their habitat had dried out. 260 00:18:24,343 --> 00:18:27,144 AndlPut that down to a changing climate. 261 00:18:28,944 --> 00:18:33,264 Now we know that, although the climate here has indeed become much drier, 262 00:18:33,344 --> 00:18:36,304 that change took Place many thousands ofyears ago, 263 00:18:36,384 --> 00:18:40,584 and that elePhant birds Iiving in the sPiny forest managed to survive it. 264 00:18:40,664 --> 00:18:44,985 So climate change alone can 't be blamed for the bird's extinction. 265 00:18:52,185 --> 00:18:54,665 Are there any other clues that might suggest 266 00:18:54,745 --> 00:18:57,345 an alternative exPlanation for that, 267 00:18:57,425 --> 00:19:01,346 and for the fact that the giant Iemur's forests have also gone? 268 00:19:04,026 --> 00:19:06,706 Well, it's been discovered that those giant Iemurs 269 00:19:06,786 --> 00:19:09,906 all disaPPeared over a very short sPace of time. 270 00:19:11,746 --> 00:19:14,426 And that was when human beings arrived. 271 00:19:42,628 --> 00:19:47,228 Madagasca r was one of the last places on Ea rth to be reached by h u ma n bei ngs. 272 00:19:47,308 --> 00:19:49,788 They d id n 't get here ti ll a rou nd 2,000 yea rs ago, 273 00:19:49,868 --> 00:19:52,549 a nd then, of cou rse, there were j ust a few h u nd red. 274 00:19:52,629 --> 00:19:55,669 Fifty yea rs ago, there were a rou nd six m i llion. 275 00:19:56,069 --> 00:19:58,229 Today, there a re 2 0 m i llion. 276 00:20:03,109 --> 00:20:07,549 Was it human beings who exterminated much of the island's animals, 277 00:20:07,629 --> 00:20:10,150 the elePhant bird, as well as the giant Iemurs? 278 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:12,870 Did they, PerhaPs, hunt them for food? 279 00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:16,310 One of the ways that you ca n tell 280 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:19,710 whether or not h u ma n bei ngs h u nted a n a n i ma l 281 00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:22,190 is to look at the a n i ma l's bones. 282 00:20:22,550 --> 00:20:25,670 Th is is the bone of a n exti nct lem u r 283 00:20:27,111 --> 00:20:29,791 that dates from a bout 2,000 yea rs ago, 284 00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:33,151 when h u ma n bei ngs fi rst ca me to th is isla nd. 285 00:20:33,791 --> 00:20:38,351 And when you look at it, you ca n see, at the top there, 286 00:20:38,431 --> 00:20:39,791 cut ma rks. 287 00:20:40,111 --> 00:20:47,072 So we know that th is lem u r was ki lled, or at least eaten, by h u ma n bei ngs, 288 00:20:47,272 --> 00:20:51,072 who cut the flesh away from the bone with some ki nd of kn ife. 289 00:20:52,552 --> 00:20:57,872 But the i nteresti ng th i ng is, a lthoug h we a lso fi nd elepha nt bi rd bones, 290 00:20:57,952 --> 00:21:03,433 ha rd ly a one of the elepha nt bi rd bones have cut ma rks. 291 00:21:03,873 --> 00:21:06,673 So we ca n 't rea lly bla me the d isa ppea ra nce 292 00:21:06,753 --> 00:21:09,313 of the elepha nt bi rd on h u nters. 293 00:21:12,113 --> 00:21:16,793 Ifit wasn 't climate change or hunting, what else could it have been? 294 00:21:17,593 --> 00:21:20,034 Although Madagascar is only seParated from Africa 295 00:21:20,114 --> 00:21:22,674 by a relatively narrow stretch ofsea, 296 00:21:22,754 --> 00:21:25,754 many of the first settlers came not from there, 297 00:21:25,834 --> 00:21:28,994 but from Southeast Asia, thousands ofmiles away. 298 00:21:29,314 --> 00:21:32,914 In fact, the people who live i n the centre pa rt of Madagasca r 299 00:21:32,994 --> 00:21:37,515 orig i na lly ca me from rig ht across the other side of the Ind ia n Ocea n, 300 00:21:37,595 --> 00:21:39,795 here, i n the Ma laya n reg ion. 301 00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:44,795 They must certainly have hunted the animals, 302 00:21:44,875 --> 00:21:47,675 but they also did something else, which in the Iong run, 303 00:21:47,755 --> 00:21:50,395 was far more devastating for the island's wildlife. 304 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:52,155 They were farmers. 305 00:21:52,235 --> 00:21:56,796 And they cleared the forest to grow rice and to Provide grazing for their cattle. 306 00:21:56,876 --> 00:21:58,676 As the numbers ofPeoPle increased, 307 00:21:58,756 --> 00:22:01,556 so more and more forest was cut and burnt. 308 00:22:01,916 --> 00:22:04,556 It's a Process that is still going on. 309 00:22:17,477 --> 00:22:21,597 So, all over the island, the IandscaPe began to change. 310 00:22:34,518 --> 00:22:37,518 I'm on my way to the west of the island, 311 00:22:37,598 --> 00:22:41,438 where a few, small Patches of that ancient forest still remain. 312 00:22:42,198 --> 00:22:46,719 These strange, beautiful trees, baobabs, are fire-resistant, 313 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:48,759 and too big to cut down. 314 00:22:48,879 --> 00:22:52,079 So, in manyPlaces, they are the only remnants Ieft 315 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:55,439 of the original forest that once covered this Iand. 316 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:59,719 It would have been difficult for a creature the size ofan elePhant bird 317 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:02,039 to Iive without vegetation ofsome kind, 318 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,160 and today, even the smallest ofanimals are struggling to survive here. 319 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:14,320 Dne of those that have managed to do so is the tiniest ofall known Iemurs. 320 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,201 It's called Madame Berthe's mouse Iemur, and it was only discovered LØ years ago. 321 00:23:22,601 --> 00:23:25,481 Melanie Dammhahn is Part ofa team ofscientists 322 00:23:25,561 --> 00:23:29,641 who are studying the animal, trying to work out how to Protect it. 323 00:23:31,841 --> 00:23:32,921 Oh! 324 00:23:33,801 --> 00:23:36,161 - Ti ny, ti ny. - Ti ny, ti ny. 325 00:23:36,801 --> 00:23:38,642 J ust on ly 30-g ra m body weig ht. 326 00:23:38,722 --> 00:23:42,202 - Yea h. Sma llest pri mate i n the world? - Sma llest pri mate i n the world. 327 00:23:42,282 --> 00:23:44,602 - Big eyes, sma ll ea rs. - Very big eyes. 328 00:23:44,682 --> 00:23:46,522 - Yea h. - And a wet nose. 329 00:23:46,722 --> 00:23:48,122 - Yea h. - Yea h. 330 00:23:49,082 --> 00:23:52,242 Melanie and her colleagues catch these Iemurs and tag them 331 00:23:52,322 --> 00:23:54,322 to build uP a Picture of their behaviour, 332 00:23:54,402 --> 00:23:57,763 essential knowledge if they're to be ProPerlyProtected. 333 00:23:57,883 --> 00:23:59,923 And how long wi ll he have been i n there now? 334 00:24:00,003 --> 00:24:01,683 - A few hou rs. - That a ll? 335 00:24:01,763 --> 00:24:04,243 So we collect h i m at n ig ht a nd then he stays i n ca m p 336 00:24:04,323 --> 00:24:06,419 a nd sleeps i n there, a nd then we release h i m the next day. 337 00:24:06,443 --> 00:24:08,203 And you 've ca ug ht h i m how ma ny ti mes? 338 00:24:08,243 --> 00:24:09,579 - Maybe a rou nd twenty i n th ree yea rs. - Twenty. 339 00:24:09,603 --> 00:24:11,323 So he's accustomed to it. 340 00:24:11,403 --> 00:24:12,484 H e's accustomed to it. 341 00:24:12,564 --> 00:24:14,564 And do they travel very fa r? 342 00:24:14,644 --> 00:24:16,404 - They travel very fa r. - Rea lly? 343 00:24:16,484 --> 00:24:18,140 They have, li ke, a th ree-hecta re home ra nge, 344 00:24:18,164 --> 00:24:20,404 so that's q u ite a bit for a n a n i ma l li ke that. 345 00:24:20,484 --> 00:24:22,084 - Certa i n ly is. Yea h. - Yea h. 346 00:24:22,164 --> 00:24:24,445 They m ig ht even ru n, li ke, five ki lometres a n ig ht. 347 00:24:24,484 --> 00:24:25,564 - Rea lly? - Yea h. 348 00:24:25,644 --> 00:24:27,060 An a n i ma l li ke that. I th i n k that's... 349 00:24:27,084 --> 00:24:28,524 - Amazi ng. - Amazi ng, yea h. 350 00:24:28,604 --> 00:24:30,525 Okay, let's see h i m go. 351 00:24:36,125 --> 00:24:37,525 H e's com i ng. 352 00:24:38,885 --> 00:24:41,325 Come on. Come on, little one. 353 00:24:43,485 --> 00:24:45,925 That's it. That's it. Oh! 354 00:24:49,686 --> 00:24:52,286 The work Melanie and her team are doing 355 00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:55,406 is vital for the survival of this Iittle Iemur. 356 00:24:55,766 --> 00:24:57,606 It's also revealingJust why it is 357 00:24:57,686 --> 00:25:01,046 that this tiny creature Iives here and nowhere else. 358 00:25:04,887 --> 00:25:08,087 Th is pa rticu la r lia na belongs to a species 359 00:25:08,167 --> 00:25:10,927 that on ly g rows i n th is patch of forest. 360 00:25:11,807 --> 00:25:17,047 And on it, a nd on no other ki nd of lia na, lives th is little i nsect. 361 00:25:17,127 --> 00:25:21,247 It's a bug wh ich feeds by sticki ng its mouth pa rts 362 00:25:21,328 --> 00:25:24,288 i nto the lia na a nd sucki ng out the sa p. 363 00:25:25,008 --> 00:25:29,088 It then d igests what it wa nts a nd excretes the rest 364 00:25:29,168 --> 00:25:32,008 as honeydew, a sort of suga ry liq u id. 365 00:25:32,928 --> 00:25:36,248 And it's that honeydew, that suga r, 366 00:25:36,328 --> 00:25:40,089 that Mada me Berthe's lem u r needs i n its d iet. 367 00:25:41,289 --> 00:25:47,489 So Mada me Berthe's lem u r is on ly fou nd i n th is pa rticu la r patch of the forest 368 00:25:47,569 --> 00:25:50,449 beca use of th is i nsect a nd th is lia na, 369 00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:55,970 wh ich j ust shows how com plicated ecolog ica l con nections ca n be, 370 00:25:56,050 --> 00:25:58,810 a nd how m uch you have to know a bout a n a n i ma l 371 00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:01,530 if you ' re rea lly goi ng to conserve it. 372 00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:09,410 It's more than Iikely that the elePhant bird 373 00:26:09,490 --> 00:26:11,770 was nowhere near as fussy as a mouse Iemur, 374 00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:15,371 but it certainly needed much greater quantities offood. 375 00:26:19,731 --> 00:26:23,171 So as more and more of the forest was cleared, 376 00:26:24,171 --> 00:26:27,851 there was Iess and Iess room for animals ofall kinds. 377 00:26:35,012 --> 00:26:38,812 Elepha nt bi rds were a mong the fi rst victi ms of deforestation. 378 00:26:39,052 --> 00:26:41,692 As people ca me i n a nd clea red the bush 379 00:26:41,772 --> 00:26:44,052 i n order to ma ke space for thei r own crops, 380 00:26:44,132 --> 00:26:47,572 there was less a nd less foliage for the bi rds to browse on, 381 00:26:47,652 --> 00:26:51,293 a nd no leaves whatever on the g reat tru n ks of the baoba bs. 382 00:26:54,013 --> 00:26:56,933 Andyet we know that, unlike the giant Iemurs, 383 00:26:57,013 --> 00:27:00,973 the elePhant bird didn 't disaPPear as soon as the PeoPle arrived. 384 00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:04,013 Recent archaeological research suggests that the birds 385 00:27:04,093 --> 00:27:07,374 Iived alongside human beings for hundreds ofyears. 386 00:27:09,454 --> 00:27:11,454 PerhaPs they were Protected by something 387 00:27:11,534 --> 00:27:15,294 that is still deePly rooted in the Iives of the MalagasyPeoPle, 388 00:27:15,374 --> 00:27:17,814 fady, a beliefabout the intimate way 389 00:27:17,894 --> 00:27:21,574 in which human beings are connected with the natural world. 390 00:27:22,174 --> 00:27:25,455 They believe, for examPle, that many sPecies ofanimal 391 00:27:25,535 --> 00:27:30,095 contain the sPirits of their ancestors, and must not, therefore, be killed. 392 00:27:31,095 --> 00:27:33,935 When I was here making these Zoo Quest Programmes, 393 00:27:34,015 --> 00:27:37,495 we watched a traditional ceremony which centred around a fady 394 00:27:37,575 --> 00:27:41,536 connected with Madagascar's only surviving giant, the crocodile. 395 00:27:42,936 --> 00:27:45,656 Here, at the sacred Iake ofAnivorano, 396 00:27:45,736 --> 00:27:50,016 they tell a story ofa wandering holy man who aPPeared in the village. 397 00:27:51,416 --> 00:27:55,056 No one, aPart from one old woman, offered him refreshment. 398 00:27:56,056 --> 00:27:58,017 After warning the old woman to Ieave, 399 00:27:58,097 --> 00:28:02,417 he then flooded the whole village, drowning everyone in it, excePt her. 400 00:28:03,337 --> 00:28:06,257 The PeoPle here believe that the crocodiles in this Iake 401 00:28:06,337 --> 00:28:09,097 are descendents of those original villagers, 402 00:28:09,177 --> 00:28:11,737 and they come here to give them sacrifices ofmeat 403 00:28:11,817 --> 00:28:14,057 in return for their blessings. 404 00:28:20,538 --> 00:28:24,658 Many animals in Madagascar have some kind offady attached to them. 405 00:28:29,058 --> 00:28:31,418 Th is is a cha meleon. 406 00:28:32,259 --> 00:28:35,339 And Madagasca r is the home of the cha meleons. 407 00:28:35,779 --> 00:28:37,395 There a re more d ifferent ki nds of cha meleons 408 00:28:37,419 --> 00:28:42,139 a nd more spectacu la r cha meleons here tha n a nywhere else i n the world. 409 00:28:43,499 --> 00:28:46,739 They a re, of cou rse, very specia lised liza rds. 410 00:28:47,219 --> 00:28:50,220 But loca l people a re very frig htened of them. 411 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:54,220 They move i n th is odd way a nd they have these biza rre eyes. 412 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:58,300 And they th i n k that once g la nce from a cha meleon is riski ng death, 413 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,820 a nd to hold one wou ld be d isaster. 414 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:06,981 N ow, when we were last here, somebody broke i nto ou r ca r 415 00:29:07,061 --> 00:29:10,341 with a ll ou r eq u i pment i n it a nd broke the wi ndow. 416 00:29:10,421 --> 00:29:12,741 And so we cou ld n 't lock the ca r. 417 00:29:13,021 --> 00:29:15,981 So I took one of these splend id cha meleons, 418 00:29:16,061 --> 00:29:18,261 a nd put it on the steeri ng wheel, 419 00:29:18,341 --> 00:29:23,742 a nd when a nybody opened the ca r door, it sort of g lowered at them, 420 00:29:23,822 --> 00:29:26,262 a nd nobody d id, except us. 421 00:29:40,262 --> 00:29:44,863 These beliefs in fady are still very Powerful and widesPread in Madagascar. 422 00:29:46,543 --> 00:29:49,703 And, in some cases, it's they that have been resPonsible 423 00:29:49,783 --> 00:29:52,263 for the very survival ofa sPecies. 424 00:29:56,703 --> 00:30:01,704 Th is g ia nt baoba b is one of the most fa mous i nd ivid ua l trees 425 00:30:01,784 --> 00:30:03,664 i n the whole of Madagasca r. 426 00:30:03,744 --> 00:30:07,944 The people believe that it's the home to the spi rits of the dead. 427 00:30:08,424 --> 00:30:10,944 And they bri ng offeri ngs, wh ich they place a rou nd its base, 428 00:30:11,024 --> 00:30:15,024 of ru m a nd other th i ngs, to ask the a ncestors to bri ng them luck. 429 00:30:16,105 --> 00:30:21,425 But the spi rits wi ll on ly rema i n as long as the forest su rrou nds the tree. 430 00:30:22,225 --> 00:30:25,705 So, tha n ks to th is tree a nd that belief, 431 00:30:25,785 --> 00:30:27,705 one of the best pieces of d ry forest 432 00:30:27,785 --> 00:30:30,785 i n the whole of Madagasca r is sti ll protected. 433 00:30:34,306 --> 00:30:38,506 Many Malagasy communities have such beliefs about the natural world. 434 00:30:38,586 --> 00:30:41,226 Could it be that it was fady that helPed to Protect 435 00:30:41,306 --> 00:30:44,826 the Iast dwindling PoPulations of elePhant birds, 436 00:30:44,906 --> 00:30:49,066 enabling them to survive Ionger than they might otherwise have done? 437 00:30:50,707 --> 00:30:53,867 It's easy to imagine that creatures whose eggs were big enough 438 00:30:53,947 --> 00:30:55,947 to start Iegends all over EuroPe 439 00:30:56,027 --> 00:30:59,587 would be surrounded by feelings ofawe or even fear. 440 00:31:02,587 --> 00:31:06,107 But that did not save the elePhant bird in the Iong run. 441 00:31:06,427 --> 00:31:09,548 The territories they required wereJust too big. 442 00:31:13,508 --> 00:31:18,348 Madagascar has one of the highest rates offorest Ioss ofanywhere in the world. 443 00:31:18,948 --> 00:31:22,028 It's estimated that BØ% ofit has now gone. 444 00:31:25,549 --> 00:31:29,389 AII the wetterParts of the island were once covered by rainforest, 445 00:31:29,469 --> 00:31:31,469 which, Iike rainforest everywhere, 446 00:31:31,549 --> 00:31:34,229 was hugely rich in animals andPlant sPecies. 447 00:31:34,669 --> 00:31:39,429 And this being Madagascar, most were sPecies that existed nowhere else. 448 00:31:40,709 --> 00:31:44,150 The changes here have been Particularly dramatic. 449 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:51,550 When I was here i n 1 960, a ll th is la nd was covered i n ra i nforest, 450 00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:56,390 trees 1 00 feet h ig h, with lem u rs a nd a ll ki nds of bi rds a nd i nsects. 451 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,391 And then they bu i lt th is sawm i ll. 452 00:32:01,911 --> 00:32:06,031 And, for 2 5 yea rs, it operated, consu m i ng the forest, 453 00:32:06,831 --> 00:32:09,071 u nti l the forest was a ll gone. 454 00:32:09,471 --> 00:32:14,311 So then they left the sawm i ll, a nd the la nd has gone to waste. 455 00:32:18,672 --> 00:32:21,472 They also started to mine here for nickel. 456 00:32:23,072 --> 00:32:24,992 Madagascar, in fact, has some of 457 00:32:25,072 --> 00:32:28,392 the richest untaPPed mineral dePosits in the world. 458 00:32:28,872 --> 00:32:33,152 ExPloiting them requires great corridors to be cut through the forest. 459 00:32:33,512 --> 00:32:37,793 Many animals that require big territories won 't cross such corridors. 460 00:32:38,113 --> 00:32:40,513 So, Just Iike the elePhant bird, 461 00:32:40,593 --> 00:32:43,233 they're squeezed into smaller and smallerPatches, 462 00:32:43,313 --> 00:32:47,393 and, ultimately, they vanish, Just as the elePhant bird did. 463 00:32:52,634 --> 00:32:56,754 This Patch offorest in Andasibe, on the eastern side of the island, 464 00:32:56,834 --> 00:32:59,234 is one of the Iargest remaining fragments, 465 00:32:59,314 --> 00:33:03,154 and it's the Iast home of the biggest ofall surviving Iemurs, 466 00:33:04,674 --> 00:33:06,034 the indri. 467 00:33:09,995 --> 00:33:14,035 JosePh Randriada Thuandru has Iived here all his Iife. 468 00:33:14,795 --> 00:33:19,235 In fact, he was here when I was filming in L96Ø, although we didn 't meet. 469 00:33:20,875 --> 00:33:24,035 Then, he was hunting the indri for food. 470 00:33:32,956 --> 00:33:36,476 A t that time, I had an idea that stories about the indri 471 00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:39,636 might have given rise to mhs almost as fantastic 472 00:33:39,716 --> 00:33:42,396 as those surrounding the elePhant bird. 473 00:33:46,037 --> 00:33:49,197 Ma ny people consider that th is stra nge creatu re 474 00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:52,477 is the orig i n of the legend of the dog-headed ma n. 475 00:33:53,317 --> 00:33:56,157 Ma rco Polo wrote a bout the dog-headed ma n, 476 00:33:56,237 --> 00:33:59,277 a nd th is is a n i llustration from a natu ra l h istory book 477 00:33:59,357 --> 00:34:01,758 pu blished some 300 yea rs ago. 478 00:34:02,398 --> 00:34:04,118 Well, obviously, we wa nted to fi lm th is. 479 00:34:04,198 --> 00:34:06,598 And before we went to Madagasca r, 480 00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:08,958 I visited a very d isti ng u ished British natu ra list 481 00:34:09,038 --> 00:34:12,918 who had spent seven yea rs there, a nd asked h i m a bout the i nd ris. 482 00:34:12,998 --> 00:34:14,638 H e told me that, as fa r as he knew, 483 00:34:14,718 --> 00:34:17,278 it had never been photog ra phed or fi lmed a live. 484 00:34:17,358 --> 00:34:19,474 The a n i ma l wh ich was the most d ra 485 00:34:19,486 --> 00:34:21,879 matic a n i ma l on the series by a long way 486 00:34:21,959 --> 00:34:27,479 was the i nd ri, wh ich we had been the fi rst people to photog ra ph a live. 487 00:34:28,359 --> 00:34:32,799 It took us a hell ofa time to find it, you know, traiPsing through the forest. 488 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:36,240 And, nea rly a lways, you hea rd a ca ll, 489 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,240 so you 'd go th roug h the bush a nd try a nd look for it, 490 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,880 a nd then, as soon as it saw you, 491 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,200 woof, it was gone, bou nd i ng th roug h the forest. 492 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680 So a ll we got for days a nd days was noth i ng but backsides 493 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400 of these th i ngs sa i li ng away from you. 494 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:55,601 Since PeoPle at that time, IikejosePh, were still hunting indris, 495 00:34:55,681 --> 00:34:59,041 it was hardly surPrising that they were scared of us. 496 00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:02,641 After several days offailure, I had an idea. 497 00:35:03,081 --> 00:35:05,761 I decided to record their extraordinary calls, 498 00:35:05,841 --> 00:35:10,242 and then rePlay the sound, in the hoPe that the animals might call in resPonse 499 00:35:10,322 --> 00:35:13,402 and reveal themselves, or even come closer. 500 00:35:30,123 --> 00:35:31,603 And it worked. 501 00:35:35,363 --> 00:35:37,963 Although we didn 't get as close as I might have wished, 502 00:35:38,043 --> 00:35:40,443 we watched them for several days. 503 00:35:56,764 --> 00:35:59,044 "We never saw a grouP ofmore than four. 504 00:35:59,124 --> 00:36:02,325 "Th is i n fact, I th i n k, is the sou rce of m uch of the cha rm of it. 505 00:36:02,405 --> 00:36:05,405 "Mon keys livi ng i n trou pes have a trou pe d isci pli ne, 506 00:36:05,485 --> 00:36:08,405 "a nd a n order of sen iority esta blished a nd ma i nta i ned by battle, 507 00:36:08,485 --> 00:36:10,605 "the ma les fig hti ng one a nother ferociously. 508 00:36:10,685 --> 00:36:12,405 "Not so with indri. 509 00:36:13,045 --> 00:36:14,805 "They Iive en fa m i lle. 510 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,341 "The old ma le doesn 't need to assert h is ra n k by fig hti ng, 511 00:36:17,365 --> 00:36:20,366 "a nd, conseq uently, the atmosphere is one of affection. 512 00:36:20,446 --> 00:36:24,606 "Once, we saw a you ng ma le joi n a you ng fema le, sitti ng beh i nd her, 513 00:36:24,686 --> 00:36:27,166 "h is legs stretched out on either side of her. 514 00:36:27,246 --> 00:36:30,206 "They licked a nd em braced one a nother for ha lf a n hou r. 515 00:36:30,286 --> 00:36:32,046 "Then sudden ly, a bi rd screeched, 516 00:36:35,286 --> 00:36:36,463 "Ioud ly a nd sta rtli ng ly. 517 00:36:36,487 --> 00:36:40,087 "Im med iately, the ma le put a protective a nd reassu ri ng a rm a rou nd her. 518 00:36:40,167 --> 00:36:42,047 "It was most touching to see." 519 00:36:43,647 --> 00:36:46,408 Anth ropomorph ism ru n riot. But there you a re, that's what I wrote. 520 00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:56,368 JosePh, the one-time hunter, still uses his skills to track the indri, 521 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:58,528 but no Ionger in order to kill them. 522 00:36:58,608 --> 00:37:01,488 Now he works as a forest guide. 523 00:37:06,968 --> 00:37:09,288 What made you stop h u nti ng them? 524 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:42,650 Have people's attitudes towa rds the i nd ri cha nged over the yea rs? 525 00:38:11,652 --> 00:38:13,292 WithoutjosePh to helP us, 526 00:38:13,372 --> 00:38:16,732 it would have been imPossible for us to get near the indri. 527 00:38:16,812 --> 00:38:20,012 But this grouP is so used to him that they're not frightened. 528 00:38:20,092 --> 00:38:23,933 Indeed, it seemed to me that they almost welcomed his comPany. 529 00:38:29,573 --> 00:38:33,373 Thanks to him, I now had a chance, for the very first time, 530 00:38:33,453 --> 00:38:35,653 to get really close to them. 531 00:40:17,819 --> 00:40:21,820 They could easily collect these Ieaves from the trees themselves. 532 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:26,540 But they seem to choose to take them from the hand ofa human being. 533 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:35,460 Well, that was a n aston ish i ng experience. 534 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:41,901 Fifty yea rs ago, I spent days a nd days a nd days 535 00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:46,821 sea rch i ng th roug h the forest with these, followi ng the noise. 536 00:40:47,661 --> 00:40:53,061 But now, th is g rou p is so accustomed to seei ng people a rou nd, 537 00:40:53,981 --> 00:40:57,022 that I've been rig ht close u p to them, 538 00:40:57,822 --> 00:41:00,662 someth i ng I had never believed cou ld have been possi ble. 539 00:41:04,862 --> 00:41:09,262 I thoug ht these were the most elusive, shy creatu res. 540 00:41:10,302 --> 00:41:13,302 It certa i n ly took me a long ti me to fi nd them. 541 00:41:13,783 --> 00:41:17,063 But that they ca n now be so trusti ng 542 00:41:17,143 --> 00:41:21,103 is a ma rvellous testa ment to how people here 543 00:41:21,183 --> 00:41:23,703 now react towa rds them a nd cherish them. 544 00:41:29,343 --> 00:41:32,744 It's a hea rt-wa rm i ng ki nd of rea lisation 545 00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:34,784 that wi ld creatu res li ke th is 546 00:41:34,864 --> 00:41:38,624 a nd h u ma n bei ngs ca n live a longside one a nother i n ha rmony. 547 00:41:39,704 --> 00:41:43,304 And they a re such aston ish i ng creatu res. 548 00:41:44,144 --> 00:41:48,345 I mea n, a pa rt from bei ng so bea utifu l, they have these very sta ri ng eyes, 549 00:41:48,425 --> 00:41:51,465 looki ng stra ig ht at you, stra ig ht th roug h you. 550 00:41:52,065 --> 00:41:55,305 And then they have these very h u ma n-li ke ha nds, 551 00:41:56,105 --> 00:41:57,945 j ust ta ki ng someth i ng. 552 00:41:59,025 --> 00:42:03,945 But when you look down at thei r feet, h uge, g reat ca lli per feet, 553 00:42:04,025 --> 00:42:07,306 when they've decided that they've had enoug h of you, 554 00:42:07,386 --> 00:42:09,986 they si m ply flex those enormous h i nd legs, 555 00:42:10,066 --> 00:42:13,786 a nd j ust with a vast bou nd, of what I su ppose 556 00:42:13,866 --> 00:42:17,786 th ree ya rds, fou r ya rds, j ust whoosh, a nd they' re gone. 557 00:42:25,267 --> 00:42:27,547 It was wonderful to see how the relationshiP 558 00:42:27,627 --> 00:42:30,667 between the indri and the Iocal PeoPle Iiving alongside them 559 00:42:30,747 --> 00:42:32,507 has changed so much. 560 00:42:33,987 --> 00:42:36,787 But then, our attitudes have changed, too. 561 00:42:37,347 --> 00:42:39,307 When I came here Ø years ago, 562 00:42:39,387 --> 00:42:43,508 I was asked to collect some animals alive and bring them back to Britain. 563 00:42:43,588 --> 00:42:46,548 That was howzoos oPerated in those days, 564 00:42:46,628 --> 00:42:50,468 believing, misguidedly, that when one of their exhibits died, 565 00:42:50,548 --> 00:42:53,828 you could always go out and catch more to rePlace it. 566 00:42:53,908 --> 00:42:56,428 Andl did my best to assemble a few animals 567 00:42:56,508 --> 00:42:59,309 I thought might make interesting disPlays. 568 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:18,190 The Zoo Quest series sta rted as a colla boration with the London Zoo. 569 00:43:18,270 --> 00:43:24,030 So I fou nd myself as a n a n i ma l catcher, as well as everyth i ng else. 570 00:43:24,590 --> 00:43:28,430 One Centetes, one CoracoPsis, one roller, 571 00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:30,950 24 fody, those a re li ke spa rrows. 572 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:36,711 Ten cha meleons, six assorted liza rds, th ree boas, 1 00 myria pods. 573 00:43:39,431 --> 00:43:40,711 Bon kers. 574 00:43:41,191 --> 00:43:43,311 And I had to feed a ll these da m n th i ngs. 575 00:43:45,391 --> 00:43:48,751 Fu n ny way to ma ke television prog ra m mes, I ca n tell you. 576 00:43:48,831 --> 00:43:51,912 And I had collected some bea utifu l, well, myria pods. 577 00:43:51,992 --> 00:43:54,752 What d id it say there? I th i n k it was 1 00 or someth i ng. 578 00:43:54,832 --> 00:43:56,512 And they were lovely m i lli pedes, 579 00:43:56,592 --> 00:43:58,592 the size of golf ba lls when they' re rolled u p, 580 00:43:58,672 --> 00:44:02,352 a nd when they weren 't, they wou ld ru n a rou nd li ke little tra i ns, 581 00:44:02,432 --> 00:44:04,712 red with black stri pes on them. 582 00:44:05,192 --> 00:44:09,033 And they got out i n the m idd le of the n ig ht i n the hotel, 583 00:44:09,113 --> 00:44:11,793 a nd they were a ll over the corridor a nd a ll i n the rooms, 584 00:44:11,873 --> 00:44:15,873 a nd madame was not pleased, not at a ll pleased. 585 00:44:22,273 --> 00:44:27,874 In rainforests Iike this, you come across all kinds of unexPected delights. 586 00:44:31,834 --> 00:44:35,394 Th is rather la rge sna ke, 587 00:44:37,074 --> 00:44:39,794 u m, is q u ite ha rm less, i n fact. 588 00:44:41,555 --> 00:44:43,835 But it's q u ite mysterious, too, 589 00:44:44,955 --> 00:44:49,235 beca use that, you wou ld th i n k i n Africa, was a python. 590 00:44:50,515 --> 00:44:52,795 And Africa's j ust over the way. 591 00:44:53,955 --> 00:44:56,475 But, i n fact, it's a boa constrictor. 592 00:44:57,195 --> 00:45:02,796 And its nea rest relatives a re rig ht on the other side, i n South America. 593 00:45:03,356 --> 00:45:07,316 It's one of the mysteries of Madagasca r's fa u na. 594 00:45:08,476 --> 00:45:11,516 N ow, the last ti me I was here, there was a belief 595 00:45:11,596 --> 00:45:14,996 that a n i ma ls li ke th is, th is boa, 596 00:45:15,076 --> 00:45:18,717 were the i nca rnations of people's g ra nd mothers. 597 00:45:20,317 --> 00:45:24,237 I d id have some i n h i bitions a bout what people wou ld th i n k 598 00:45:24,317 --> 00:45:27,557 if I ca ug ht one of those a nd took away thei r g ra nd mother, 599 00:45:27,637 --> 00:45:29,157 so I never d id. 600 00:45:56,399 --> 00:45:59,639 This beautiful Iemur has now become a symbol 601 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,879 of the fight to conserve the forest and save it from the fate that overtook 602 00:46:04,959 --> 00:46:08,880 so many ofMadagascar's animals in the recent Past. 603 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,200 So, why d id the elepha nt bi rd d isa ppea r? 604 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,520 It cou ld have been cli mate cha nge, 605 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,840 wh ich tu rned m uch of its la nd i nto desert. 606 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,521 It cou ld have been that people destroyed the forests where it browsed. 607 00:46:27,601 --> 00:46:30,881 I dou bt if it was h u nted to exti nction. 608 00:46:31,201 --> 00:46:33,761 Anyone who's seen a n ostrich i n the zoo 609 00:46:33,841 --> 00:46:37,161 knows it's got a kick that ca n open a ma n's stomach. 610 00:46:37,361 --> 00:46:40,921 And a n en raged elepha nt bi rd, ma ny ti mes the size of a n ostrich, 611 00:46:41,001 --> 00:46:43,842 m ust have been tru ly a form ida ble opponent. 612 00:46:44,162 --> 00:46:47,922 I suspect it was these, its egg. 613 00:46:49,082 --> 00:46:52,122 They may not have been a ble to tackle a n ad u lt bi rd, 614 00:46:52,242 --> 00:46:56,522 but they cou ld ta ke its eggs, wh ich were a h uge sou rce of nou rish ment. 615 00:46:57,642 --> 00:47:01,483 And so I th i n k it's proba bly these a re the reason 616 00:47:01,563 --> 00:47:04,363 why the elepha nt bi rd is no longer here. 617 00:47:08,043 --> 00:47:13,163 Even if the bird itself was held in awe, or maybe fear, by the PeoPle here, 618 00:47:13,283 --> 00:47:15,803 they might not have had too much trouble in robbing it 619 00:47:15,883 --> 00:47:18,084 ofits huge, nutritious eggs. 620 00:47:18,564 --> 00:47:22,804 So, although there were several factors threatening the bird's survival, 621 00:47:22,884 --> 00:47:25,244 it could have been PeoPle eating the eggs 622 00:47:25,324 --> 00:47:27,924 who dealt the sPecies its final blow. 623 00:47:36,365 --> 00:47:40,485 Today, we 've come to realise that, ifyou want to Preserve a sPecies, 624 00:47:40,605 --> 00:47:44,525 you have to Preserve the whole community ofPlants and animals. 625 00:47:46,525 --> 00:47:49,805 Some PeoPle here are trying to tackle that Problem. 626 00:47:54,046 --> 00:47:57,406 Rainer Dolch manages one such grouP in indri country. 627 00:47:59,606 --> 00:48:02,206 I asked him how much forest remained. 628 00:48:03,006 --> 00:48:05,086 As we spea k, it's very frag mented. 629 00:48:05,166 --> 00:48:07,806 U nfortu nately, i n th is pa rticu la r a rea, 630 00:48:07,886 --> 00:48:10,607 we have a lmost no conti n uous forest a ny more. 631 00:48:10,687 --> 00:48:14,047 Th is is a frag ment of a bout 800 hecta res. 632 00:48:14,287 --> 00:48:20,767 One crucia l issue for conservation is to li n k these frag ments with each other, 633 00:48:20,847 --> 00:48:24,487 so that there cou ld be genetic excha nge 634 00:48:24,567 --> 00:48:27,888 between pla nt a nd a n i ma l species that live there. 635 00:48:27,968 --> 00:48:30,808 So if they rema i ned as frag ments, rea lly, 636 00:48:30,888 --> 00:48:33,928 the i n ha bita nts, the a n i ma l i n ha bita nts, a re doomed, h u h? 637 00:48:34,008 --> 00:48:36,088 Yea h, that's pretty m uch the case, 638 00:48:36,168 --> 00:48:39,848 a nd there is stud ies concern i ng the i nd ri, for i nsta nce, 639 00:48:39,928 --> 00:48:45,969 sayi ng that a m i n i m u m size for a forest 640 00:48:46,049 --> 00:48:51,289 i n wh ich the i nd ri ca n su rvive is a bout 1,000 to 1, 2 00 hecta res. 641 00:48:51,769 --> 00:48:53,465 - So you have to li n k them u p. - Exactly. 642 00:48:53,489 --> 00:48:54,889 And how a re you doi ng it? 643 00:48:54,969 --> 00:48:58,889 Well, one th i ng that we try to do is actua lly re-esta blish 644 00:48:58,969 --> 00:49:02,090 the ra i nforest i n between these frag ments 645 00:49:02,170 --> 00:49:08,170 by pla nti ng trees that we actua lly ra ise i n th is n u rsery here 646 00:49:08,250 --> 00:49:11,210 from the seeds that we collect i n the forest. 647 00:49:13,290 --> 00:49:16,410 And how's it goi ng? H ow ma ny a re you repla nti ng? 648 00:49:17,050 --> 00:49:21,811 Well, we now have repla nted a n a rea of a bout 1,000 hecta res. 649 00:49:22,491 --> 00:49:27,651 You, idea lly, have at least 60 species per hecta re that you pla nt, 650 00:49:27,731 --> 00:49:29,451 so th is is ki nd of ha rd work. 651 00:49:29,531 --> 00:49:32,491 H ow ma ny trees do you th i n k you have pla nted? 652 00:49:32,691 --> 00:49:37,892 If you ta ke 1,000 trees per hecta re as a ru le of th u m b, 653 00:49:37,972 --> 00:49:41,452 then th is ma kes slig htly more tha n a m i llion trees now. 654 00:49:41,772 --> 00:49:44,052 A m i llion trees i n how ma ny yea rs? 655 00:49:44,132 --> 00:49:46,412 That's i n th ree yea rs of pla nti ng. 656 00:49:46,492 --> 00:49:50,252 Fa ntastic. A m i llion i n th ree yea rs. That is a lot of trees. 657 00:49:59,173 --> 00:50:01,773 Th is is j ust so hea rten i ng a nd exciti ng. 658 00:50:01,853 --> 00:50:04,017 H ow long do you th i n k you ' re goi ng to 659 00:50:04,029 --> 00:50:06,253 be before you ca n com plete these corridors? 660 00:50:06,333 --> 00:50:11,334 Well, I wou ld say that proba bly you wou ld need 2 0 yea rs or so 661 00:50:11,414 --> 00:50:15,774 to be su re that the trees repla nted have actua lly re-g rown 662 00:50:15,854 --> 00:50:18,534 to someth i ng that you 'd ca ll a forest. 663 00:50:18,774 --> 00:50:22,494 So we wou ld actua lly look at a ll these reforested a reas 664 00:50:22,574 --> 00:50:25,214 for the next two decades to come. 665 00:50:27,054 --> 00:50:30,015 Projects li ke th is a re wonderfu lly encou rag i ng. 666 00:50:30,095 --> 00:50:35,095 When I was here 50 yea rs ago, we had no idea how com plex 667 00:50:35,175 --> 00:50:36,495 forest systems were li ke th is 668 00:50:36,575 --> 00:50:39,735 a nd how d ifficu lt they wou ld be to reconstitute. 669 00:50:40,335 --> 00:50:43,175 But pla ns li ke that ca n on ly work 670 00:50:43,255 --> 00:50:46,256 if they have the su pport of the loca l people. 671 00:50:53,336 --> 00:50:55,976 South of Tana, in the central highlands, 672 00:50:56,056 --> 00:50:59,456 there's a new initiative which is an insPiring examPle 673 00:50:59,536 --> 00:51:01,776 ofhow a Iocal communityProJect 674 00:51:01,856 --> 00:51:05,017 could helP the future of the country's wildlife. 675 00:51:05,577 --> 00:51:09,377 The coordinator of this ProJect, Eugénie Raharisoa, 676 00:51:09,457 --> 00:51:12,257 told me that the PeoPle here have very Iittle to Iive on, 677 00:51:12,337 --> 00:51:15,497 and that they need their Iocal forest to survive. 678 00:51:45,499 --> 00:51:49,819 So, in order to Provide work for Iocal PeoPle which doesn 't destroy the forest, 679 00:51:49,899 --> 00:51:52,979 Eugénie has helPed set uP a scheme to Produce silk, 680 00:51:53,059 --> 00:51:57,420 which, by tradition, the Malagasy use to weave a magnificent fabric. 681 00:52:00,580 --> 00:52:03,460 First ofall, the caterPillars ofa Particular moth 682 00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:05,740 are released into the forest. 683 00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:12,541 When they change into cocoons, they're collected. 684 00:52:22,301 --> 00:52:25,741 Then the silk is unwound from the cocoon 685 00:52:25,821 --> 00:52:31,022 and sPun into a thread, which is dyed and, ultimately, woven. 686 00:52:32,542 --> 00:52:35,542 The scheme has created work for all the women in the village, 687 00:52:35,622 --> 00:52:38,182 including Marie Razafumala. 688 00:53:06,904 --> 00:53:11,184 This ProJect has comPletely changed PeoPle's attitude to their forest. 689 00:53:11,384 --> 00:53:14,544 The villagers now have an incentive to Protect the trees, 690 00:53:14,624 --> 00:53:17,184 which Provide them with such a valuable income. 691 00:53:17,264 --> 00:53:20,585 And that, of course, in turn, Protects the wildlife. 692 00:53:23,025 --> 00:53:27,825 Initiatives Iike this silk ProJect bring hoPe for the future ofMadagascar. 693 00:53:29,945 --> 00:53:33,265 For a young man, the Zoo Quest triP was an exciting adventure 694 00:53:33,345 --> 00:53:35,985 to what was then, in television terms at Ieast, 695 00:53:36,065 --> 00:53:37,785 an unexPlored Iand. 696 00:53:38,386 --> 00:53:41,786 Coming back after Ø years has been really fascinating. 697 00:53:41,866 --> 00:53:43,746 This time, I won 't be returning home 698 00:53:43,826 --> 00:53:46,066 with a collection ofanimals for the London Zoo. 699 00:53:46,146 --> 00:53:48,786 But I will be coming back with a greater understanding 700 00:53:48,866 --> 00:53:51,706 ofhow and why Madagascar has changed. 701 00:53:52,826 --> 00:53:56,227 I've seen a country which has been heavily exPloited. 702 00:53:56,427 --> 00:54:00,747 But I've also seen glimmers ofhoPe for the future of the wildlife here. 703 00:54:00,827 --> 00:54:02,587 Andl've been thrilled to get so close 704 00:54:02,667 --> 00:54:05,707 to some ofMadagascar's most wonderful sPecies, 705 00:54:05,907 --> 00:54:08,907 a reminder ofJust how sPecial this island is. 706 00:54:15,308 --> 00:54:18,668 Fiftyyears ago, I found the egg of what was surely among 707 00:54:18,748 --> 00:54:22,228 the most sPectacular ofall the animals to evolve here. 708 00:54:22,508 --> 00:54:25,868 Now, there is still one final detail to fill in. 709 00:54:26,468 --> 00:54:29,748 How old is my egg and what might that tell us? 710 00:54:33,869 --> 00:54:36,269 Here, in the basement of the archaeological dePartment 711 00:54:36,349 --> 00:54:39,549 at Dxford University, there's a carbon dating aPParatus 712 00:54:39,629 --> 00:54:44,149 which can accurately find the age ofancient obJects, natural and manmade. 713 00:54:46,469 --> 00:54:47,710 It's a comPlicatedProcess, 714 00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:51,150 involving all kinds of very soPhisticated techniques. 715 00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:56,710 But I've been told that Thomas Higham, who took the samPle from my egg, 716 00:54:56,790 --> 00:54:58,430 has got a result. 717 00:55:00,350 --> 00:55:02,550 You took a ti ny bit of th is, I know. 718 00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:05,951 - A very sma ll a mou nt from the back. - A very sma ll a mou nt. 719 00:55:06,031 --> 00:55:08,231 And tell me, come on, what's the a nswer? 720 00:55:08,311 --> 00:55:12,351 Well, ou r date suggests that th is egg is 1, 300 yea rs old. 721 00:55:12,431 --> 00:55:14,631 - N o. - Yes. Yea h. 722 00:55:15,071 --> 00:55:17,311 - Say it aga i n, 1,000... - 1, 300 yea rs old. 723 00:55:17,391 --> 00:55:19,711 And that puts it at what date? 724 00:55:19,791 --> 00:55:22,392 About 700... 600 to 700 AD. 725 00:55:22,672 --> 00:55:24,592 And d id that su rprise you? 726 00:55:24,672 --> 00:55:26,876 U m, I thoug ht it was q u ite a lot you nger 727 00:55:26,888 --> 00:55:28,912 tha n I thoug ht it wou ld be, actua lly. 728 00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:30,688 - You thoug ht it was you nger? - And I say that... I d id. 729 00:55:30,712 --> 00:55:34,152 And I say that beca use I checked back on a ll the other eggshell dates 730 00:55:34,232 --> 00:55:36,792 that we've dated from Madagasca r from th is species, 731 00:55:36,872 --> 00:55:41,953 a nd the you ngest date that we've ever got is a bout 900 AD. 732 00:55:42,713 --> 00:55:45,113 H ere is 600 AD, 800 AD. 733 00:55:45,473 --> 00:55:48,233 And you r dates a re these ones that j ust sit i n here. 734 00:55:48,313 --> 00:55:49,489 These a re the you ngest ones. 735 00:55:49,513 --> 00:55:52,473 So it's q u ite a recent one, i n terms of... 736 00:55:52,553 --> 00:55:54,033 It is, i ndeed. 737 00:55:54,353 --> 00:55:59,194 So th is, i n fact, was one of the last of the elepha nt bi rds. 738 00:55:59,274 --> 00:56:03,594 I th i n k, with i n 1 00 to 2 00 yea rs, perha ps, yes. 739 00:56:04,514 --> 00:56:05,554 Ah. 740 00:56:06,994 --> 00:56:09,554 The ch ick that ca me out of th is was one of the last. 741 00:56:09,634 --> 00:56:11,354 Absolutely a mazi ng. 742 00:56:12,354 --> 00:56:13,450 When do you th i n k it d isa ppea red? 743 00:56:13,474 --> 00:56:18,835 I th i n k somewhere before 1,000 AD, it was exti nct, la rgely exti nct, yea h. 744 00:56:22,275 --> 00:56:23,691 So there we have it. 745 00:56:23,715 --> 00:56:26,795 My egg is L, ØØ years old, 746 00:56:26,875 --> 00:56:31,236 and one of the most recent eggs of its kind that the university has dated. 747 00:56:31,316 --> 00:56:34,156 But that doesn 't mean that it was the Iast ever Iaid. 748 00:56:34,236 --> 00:56:36,516 And it could be that some of these astounding creatures 749 00:56:36,596 --> 00:56:39,036 Iived on until much more recently. 750 00:56:39,756 --> 00:56:43,436 But what we have discovered is that elePhant birds and human beings 751 00:56:43,516 --> 00:56:47,436 did manage to Iive alongside one another for hundreds ofyears. 752 00:56:48,477 --> 00:56:51,597 So it wasn 't the usual story offinding a new sPecies 753 00:56:51,677 --> 00:56:54,517 and then exterminating it within a few decades offinding it, 754 00:56:54,597 --> 00:56:57,277 as haPPened with the dodo in Mauritius, 755 00:56:57,357 --> 00:57:00,677 a much smaller island not far away from Madagascar. 756 00:57:01,597 --> 00:57:05,357 Nonetheless, the elePhant bird did, ultimately, disaPPear, 757 00:57:05,437 --> 00:57:09,438 another examPle ofhow human beings, in their ever-increasing numbers, 758 00:57:09,518 --> 00:57:13,358 can so easily have a Iethal effect on the animals around them. 759 00:57:17,518 --> 00:57:23,759 For me, th is egg is a rem i nder of how easy it is for species to d isa ppea r 760 00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:25,359 a nd be exterm i nated, 761 00:57:25,439 --> 00:57:29,399 as h u ma n bei ngs ta ke over more a nd more of the natu ra l world. 762 00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:31,799 But there is hope. 763 00:57:31,879 --> 00:57:36,039 We u ndersta nd more a bout ecology a nd ecosystems, 764 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,959 more a bout what needs to be done to protect the natu ra l world. 765 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,720 And I hope, certa i n ly, that we ta ke those lessons to hea rt i n Madagasca r 766 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,800 to save its wonderfu l wi ld life, 767 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,040 for it is, i ndeed, a n isla nd of ma rvels. 72006

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