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Getting to Jordan's
bachelor party--
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I don't remember
what year it was.
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It was probably '89, '90.
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We all met at JFK,
25-30 people.
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There used to be
old vending machines
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where you could get soup.
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And the head degenerate
explained to us
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at 6:00 in the morning,
the warmth of the soup
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helps the effect
of the quaalude.
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We all start the first
round of quaaludes.
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By the time we
get on the plane,
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we're already feeling no pain.
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At Stratton,
we live in our own world.
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We call the shots.
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Nothing affected us
from the outside.
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During the flight,
there's a whole bunch of people
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snorting coke on the plane.
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The flight there
alone was a bacchanal.
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This is a scene from
"The Wolf of Wall Street."
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They get it right,
but they're a little premature
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because there were
no prostitutes on the plane.
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However, once we
got to Las Vegas,
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there was an abundance of them.
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There were girls
running around naked.
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There were beautiful girls,
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there were drop-dead
ugly girls,
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guys who were having
sex on a table.
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It was insanity.
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I do remember
walking through the suite
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and fucking at the same time.
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You know, like passing lanes
on a highway.
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In the middle
of the bachelor party,
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there was one particular guy
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and he had a great
quaalude slur.
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I'm going
to get under this glass table,
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put my mouth up to the table,
and one of you whores
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are going to take a shit
on the table.
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Thus, it will appear
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as if they're
shitting in my mouth.
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Within seven seconds,
there was a taker.
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It was all about drugs,
hookers, and money.
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We call the rules.
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This is fucking Stratton.
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Whoo!
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Right.
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Let me just find it.
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Here it is.
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Jordan, he's sitting on a
cooler and was slightly stoned.
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Just watch and observe.
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Oops.
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He was on quaaludes trying
to get his sea feet back on
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and we weren't even moving.
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We were at the dock.
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He loved being stoned.
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So that's Jordan.
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And that's the Duchess.
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That's Nadine.
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Hey.
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Nadine was a beautiful girl,
good personality.
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She was on commercials.
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I lived on Long Island.
I took up horseback riding.
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I think I'm Martha Stewart.
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I take cooking classes
I take wine classes.
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If I'm going to buy a bottle
of wine that's $2,000,
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I want to know if
it's a grape or a place.
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If I'm going to buy a chair,
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I want to know if
it's Louis XIV or Louis XVI.
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I think Jordan was
definitely living his dream,
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and I was one
of his merry men.
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Some crazy, wild times.
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This is the video cruising
around Newport, Rhode Island.
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We took the helicopter
off the yacht.
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And these are all
the mansions in Newport.
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In the early '90s,
Jordan started
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living a lifestyle that
I didn't even know existed
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other than to rock stars
and rappers
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that made millions
and millions of dollars.
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Hi!
Nice to meet you!
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โช Yow! โช
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Oh, my god.
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There's no words
for what a big spender he was.
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And yeah, it was fun.
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But I didn't realize
it was a trap.
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โช Hey! โช
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Jordan's success
and his possessions
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and everything drove everyone
at Stratton
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to get motivated to make more.
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That was another thing
to aspire to.
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I immediately said
to myself, Howie,
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if you don't
make $100,000 a month,
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you need to take a rifle,
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put it in your mouth,
and pull the trigger.
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At the beginning
of Stratton,
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we were really dealing
in penny stocks.
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Then it was time
to raise the bar.
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We started getting involved in
the initial public offering,
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an IPO.
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So that part of the movie
was accurate.
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An IPO is an initial
public offering.
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It's the first time a stock
is offered for sale
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to the general population.
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Bill Gates is about $200
million richer this morning.
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Microsoft hit a new
record high on Wall Street.
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Just think if you'd bought
Apple when it first started.
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Just think if you had
bought Microsoft.
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Young folks who are
in their 20s go, why not me?
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People just wanted
to get in on IPOs
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because it was a way
of just making a killing.
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You could triple your money
in a day.
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Jordan Belfort
became famous for IPOs
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that just seemed
too good to be true,
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but it was so complicated
that it was hard to make sense
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of what these deals were
all about.
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And what I wanted to do was to
kind of look under the hood.
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So I just filed a Freedom
of Information Act request.
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The records make it clear that
these Stratton Oakmont-related
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IPOs were pump and dumps.
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The pump and dump was
basically the company
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buys inventory of a stock...
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At a very low price...
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manipulates it to
a much higher price.
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Now we pick up a phone and
sell a security to investors.
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That drove the stock up
even higher.
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After manipulating
the stock...
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Dump it on the market.
Sell, sell, sell.
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Now we all dump the stock.
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The firms profited.
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The stock crashed.
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And eventually,
most of the clients...
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lost everything.
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That was your classic
pump and dump.
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So you've got a whole
bunch of young kids
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who knew nothing
about the business
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on the phone all day trying
to push a particular IPO.
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There was a rumor
we were taking
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grandmother's
Social Security money.
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We want people who are rich.
That's the guy you want.
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The narrative at the time
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was that we only contact
high net worth individuals.
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You had to at least
make $100,000 a year,
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be worth at least
a half a million to a million,
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and be in the stock market.
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The "business model"
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wasn't turning a virgin
into a hooker.
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It was turning
someone that already fucks
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into a real hooker.
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I got a call
from Stratton Oakmont.
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He had an IPO called
Computer Marketplace.
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And he said, oh,
we got this big IPO coming out
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and all our customers
are millionaires.
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And you know, you stick
with us, you'll be fine.
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And so I agreed to buy that.
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Probably going to say
it was $30,000 range, I think.
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And how did he make
Computer Marketplace sound?
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Oh, it was
an amazing company.
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You watch.
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It's going to be worth
ten times what it is,
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you know, today.
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And they had all the
right things to say.
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They were very professional,
you know?
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They often paint the picture
that they're going after
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you know,
wealthy business owners.
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Does that describe yourself?
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No, I was just--I owned
and operated a restaurant.
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I worked hard and did OK,
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but I wasn't in the league--
in that league, you know?
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They knew all the right buttons
to push.
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Ya know, before you knew it,
you're in.
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Stratton Oakmont was about
kill, kill, Make the money.
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There are no concerns
for investors at all.
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Did you realize, like,
hey, this is absolute fraud?
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Like, this is a
pump and dump scheme?
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No. No, 'cause first of all,
I don't--
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again, I'm 23 years old.
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I don't understand anything
about the stock market.
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I mean, I certainly
thought it was wild
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how they could can
make so much money.
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I was much more focused
on my relationship with him.
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Was there a moment
when you realized,
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we might be doing
something wrong here?
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You don't think like that.
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Well, you know,
I'm doing something wrong here.
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I wanted to believe the lie,
be honest.
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I was blinded by the lifestyle.
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And, uh...
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God took care of me
in his own way.
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You got married--
you said 25? 26?
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We got married,
I think I was 23.
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So I met him at 22.
- Oh, it was fast.
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Six months later,
we were engaged.
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Six months later,
we were married.
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The night before our wedding,
we got into a rip-roaring fight
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because I'm pregnant, because I
got pregnant before my wedding,
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and he's wasted the whole time.
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And I'm furious.
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And I'm like,
are you fucking kidding me?
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I'm giving you
everything you want,
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and this is how
you're behaving?
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And then I had 250 people
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coming to the
Malliouhana Hotel in Anguilla.
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So I was like, OK.
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Jordan flew me from
California to Anguilla,
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puts me up in a gorgeous room.
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For a guy who came from
a middle-class neighborhood,
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it was pretty incredible, honestly.
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Everybody was there.
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Rob LoRusso, Howie Gelfand,
all the top brokers.
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I mean, what can I say?
It was a fairy tale.
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This is a scene from
"The Wolf of Wall Street."
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- Kiss the bride.
- This is their wedding.
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This is the lovely couple
dancing at their wedding,
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which I really don't recall
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because I think everyone
had been too fucked up already.
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You know, I do a video
about this on TikTok.
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Put on my dress.
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I showed up
with a smile on my face.
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Yet inside,
I was deeply, deeply sad.
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You might even see that
in my eyes in the picture.
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And I put myself into therapy.
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I was smart enough
to know that.
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And I think she helped me
really stay sane.
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So you come back, now
you're married to this guy.
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Like, you knew he worked
on Wall Street.
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Yeah.
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But I think
I only went to the office,
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honestly, like,
one or two other times.
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I'm sure I was kept away
from the office on purpose.
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He's just
controlling everything.
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Jordan realized that in
order to manipulate a stock,
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you couldn't manipulate it
just by your one firm.
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You had to be--the word that
I use is "cahoots."
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You had to be in bed
with other firms.
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And then in one of the big
seminal events of my life,
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I was called into
Jordan's office along with
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one of the junior partners.
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And they asked us
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if we would like to own
our own brokerage firm
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in South Florida.
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We could work closely,
or in cahoots,
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with Stratton
and do deals together
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to make a lot of money.
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I was a single guy, so for me,
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it wasn't a difficult decision
to move down there.
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I didn't have a family
to consider,
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so I said, yeah,
it sounds good to me.
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Whoo!
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And we opened
our own brokerage firm
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called Biltmore
in South Florida.
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We were doing IPOs
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and we were training
our brokers the same way.
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So as Stratton Oakmont's
ambitions grew,
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they launch other firms.
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Biltmore,
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Monroe Parker.
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And they appear to be
kind of independent,
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but they're all connected
to Stratton Oakmont.
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So what we would do
is we would fly into New York
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on private jets.
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We'd meet Danny and Jordan
for dinner.
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We would discuss
an upcoming IPO.
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We would lay out a strategy
of how to set the prices.
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We would have two, three,
four different companies.
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That was our cartel.
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You're not allowed
to conspire to set a price,
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but that's what we were doing.
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That is all illegal.
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On an IPO day,
the boardroom was insanity.
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Things were being
thrown around.
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People were screaming.
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I made almost $800,000
in commissions
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in, like, 15 minutes.
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My income was $130,000
to $140,000 a month.
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All of a sudden,
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we were loaded
and powerful and famous.
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IPOs were huge moneymakers,
not to be minimized.
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It was like a dream.
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It enabled me to
help my father,
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enabled me to help my sister,
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enabled me to break up
my girlfriend,
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give her $5,000 a month
out of guilt.
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I guess the nice
part about it,
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you know, when my
parents were alive,
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I spoiled them to death.
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Not literally.
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My father was my best friend.
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I threw him a surprise 60th
at Caesars in Atlantic City.
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I was able to
retire my father.
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And I bought him a house
next to his best friend.
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I gave my father
5,000 a month.
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A lot of people got
$5,000 a month from me.
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I was a hot bachelor.
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I used to get cold calls
from mothers of Jewish girls
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to set to date
their daughters.
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Everyone's life around me
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had kind of depended on me
pulling in this kind of money.
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I became the chairman
of the Miami City Ballet.
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And I was on the board of the
Museum of Contemporary Art.
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And it was a very
exciting life.
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Since we all knew
that what we were doing
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was potentially illegal,
it was a closed society.
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We socialized together.
We had a lot of fun together.
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We went on vacations together.
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00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:16,976
We spent a lot of time
as friends, families.
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He would take people on trips.
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00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:22,938
And a lot of our friends
were friends.
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You know,
that was the fun part.
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00:16:24,113 --> 00:16:25,288
Like, we would all
hang out together
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with our husbands
and our kids.
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I had a child.
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My daughter was born in 1994.
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Jordan and Nadine
had Chandler.
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I think she was born in '93.
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So the kids played together.
The kids grew up together.
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You know, great memories
were made on that boat.
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Happy New Year's!
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There were parties
with spouses.
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Then there was the
other partying
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where the wives
weren't present.
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One time, Jordan said,
we're going on a road trip.
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We're going to the yacht.
It was nine guys.
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00:17:08,157 --> 00:17:11,378
One of Jordan's mottos
were, just remember,
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hookers are not cheating.
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00:17:15,904 --> 00:17:18,211
I was told that they were
going to bring in hookers.
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00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:21,257
Jordan flew in
13 hookers on this yacht,
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00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:23,738
and there were nine guys.
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00:17:23,825 --> 00:17:25,957
It was chaos.
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00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:27,481
The drugs were going around.
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00:17:30,875 --> 00:17:33,313
There was one scene
that I will never forget.
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00:17:35,837 --> 00:17:38,753
The captain said to me,
Ross, you gotta see this.
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I look into Jordan's bedroom
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00:17:41,321 --> 00:17:45,238
and I see these
two beautiful women
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with Jordan
in between them naked.
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00:17:48,284 --> 00:17:50,112
And you could see the drool
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00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:52,071
and you could see
the look on his face.
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00:17:52,158 --> 00:17:54,334
And these girls are trying
to get him aroused.
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00:17:56,118 --> 00:17:57,772
And we're dying of laughter.
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00:17:57,859 --> 00:17:59,904
So it got to the point where
we went down to Jordan's room
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00:17:59,991 --> 00:18:04,213
and Jordan's--
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00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:07,608
Tell them I have a big cock.
340
00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:09,914
So I turn to these
beautiful naked girls.
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00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:12,352
By the way, girls,
Jordan really has a big cock.
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00:18:14,223 --> 00:18:18,532
A lot of these guys partied
with these hookers a lot.
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00:18:18,619 --> 00:18:20,534
Wherever there were just
the guys, there were girls.
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00:18:20,664 --> 00:18:23,406
They went out to dinner,
there were girls.
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00:18:23,493 --> 00:18:28,803
It was a very male,
testosterone-y environment.
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00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:32,067
It was a frat house.
347
00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:34,548
The culture at
Stratton was very much
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00:18:34,635 --> 00:18:37,551
designed in the pursuit
of the pleasures of men.
349
00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:42,817
Part of that was a healthy
little dose of sexism.
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00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:45,124
So Stratton Oakmont
is making tons of money
351
00:18:45,211 --> 00:18:47,038
and living the lives
of millionaires.
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00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:49,170
But when investors
want to sell the stock,
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00:18:49,171 --> 00:18:51,478
Stratton Oakmont
often refuses,
354
00:18:51,608 --> 00:18:53,654
knowing that this stock
is going to crash.
355
00:18:55,395 --> 00:18:58,180
The broker hears from
the client, I want to sell.
356
00:18:58,311 --> 00:19:00,704
I want to sell 10,000 shares
of ABC.
357
00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:02,053
OK.
358
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,795
He writes out a sell ticket.
359
00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:07,407
We just ripped up
the fucking piece of paper.
360
00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:12,455
I mean, it doesn't get
much more illegal than that.
361
00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:30,081
Do you know how
much you bought?
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00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:34,259
It was like $72,000, which
was a lot of money back then.
363
00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:35,652
I'm just a blue-collar worker.
364
00:19:35,739 --> 00:19:38,220
You know, that was all
the money I had at the time.
365
00:19:38,307 --> 00:19:40,440
Couldn't get a hold of anybody
to sell everything.
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00:19:40,570 --> 00:19:43,312
And I says, oh, my god.
I says, this is bad.
367
00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,314
Eh, we're not getting
the money back.
368
00:19:45,401 --> 00:19:48,317
That's when
I decided I'd get the lawyer.
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00:19:48,404 --> 00:19:49,448
I went to the lawyer,
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00:19:49,449 --> 00:19:51,102
explained to him
what happened,
371
00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:53,104
and I went to arbitration.
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00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:55,497
An arbitration is basically,
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00:19:55,498 --> 00:19:58,980
you're getting sued for
doing illegal activities
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00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:01,069
that cost our client
a lot of money.
375
00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:03,898
I got so many arbitrations
376
00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,814
that I can't tell you
how many I got.
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00:20:09,295 --> 00:20:11,731
At arbitration, they said,
oh, he's a multi-millionaire,
378
00:20:11,732 --> 00:20:13,908
you know, and he makes all
this money a year and stuff.
379
00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:15,779
And it wasn't accurate
380
00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:20,088
because Stratton Oakmont had
altered the original document
381
00:20:20,175 --> 00:20:21,481
when I opened the account.
382
00:20:21,611 --> 00:20:24,527
They had inflated
my net worth.
383
00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:26,790
They had inflated
my annual salary.
384
00:20:26,877 --> 00:20:31,491
He sold Dr. Pepper and
he bought this SMT Healthcare?
385
00:20:31,578 --> 00:20:33,362
I said, I didn't
authorize that.
386
00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:37,148
You know, they had
forged paperwork and stuff.
387
00:20:39,063 --> 00:20:40,543
We had three days
of arbitration.
388
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:43,024
We won the case.
389
00:20:43,111 --> 00:20:45,112
When the
arbitration check came,
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00:20:45,113 --> 00:20:46,593
I went to the lawyer,
naturally,
391
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,160
tried to pay his fees,
his expenses.
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00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:50,814
I wound up getting
393
00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:55,340
if I remember--
you know, it wasn't very much.
394
00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:56,254
And you know,
I had three children
395
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:58,605
and college expenses,
et cetera.
396
00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:01,042
We'd use it for
my family, for the future.
397
00:21:01,129 --> 00:21:02,913
It's gone, you know?
398
00:21:11,444 --> 00:21:13,184
Stratton Oakmont loses.
399
00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:15,274
But at the end of the day,
400
00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,754
the result of an arbitration
is you pay a fine.
401
00:21:18,755 --> 00:21:20,801
Ultimately, this just becomes
402
00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:25,066
the cost of doing business
for Stratton Oakmont.
403
00:21:25,153 --> 00:21:28,025
And Jordan's attitude
was the cost, really,
404
00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:31,768
it's just part of the business,
almost like a store has,
405
00:21:31,899 --> 00:21:35,511
you know, 3% theft included
in their revenues.
406
00:21:35,598 --> 00:21:38,079
I don't think he
was even concerned
407
00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:42,083
with the audits and the
compliance part of it.
408
00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:43,823
Because I remember he said,
409
00:21:43,824 --> 00:21:45,521
the longer I keep it open,
the more I'm going to make,
410
00:21:45,608 --> 00:21:47,958
so I'll just keep
paying my way through this.
411
00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:49,438
He would get
a slap on the hand.
412
00:21:49,569 --> 00:21:51,744
I think one of the fines
was $1 million.
413
00:21:51,745 --> 00:21:53,312
$1 million was a lot of money,
414
00:21:53,399 --> 00:21:55,749
but not when you're taking in
tens of millions of dollars.
415
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:59,448
I went to Las Vegas to do an
arbitration and it was great.
416
00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:01,102
I don't remember
whether I won or lost,
417
00:22:01,189 --> 00:22:03,190
but I spent two weeks
in Vegas.
418
00:22:03,191 --> 00:22:05,019
I flew out my little
niece and nephew.
419
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:06,281
They were younger at the time.
420
00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:08,152
And we had
the time of our lives.
421
00:22:08,239 --> 00:22:13,332
And that was the ethos that
existed within our ecosystem.
422
00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,029
If you got the power,
you can do
423
00:22:15,116 --> 00:22:18,424
whatever the hell you want
to do and the laws don't apply.
424
00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:24,125
Didn't take long
for arbitrations
425
00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:26,127
to start coming in.
426
00:22:26,214 --> 00:22:29,260
Typical firm would get
maybe a handful a year.
427
00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:32,351
We were getting much more
than a handful.
428
00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:35,005
That alerted
the authorities
429
00:22:35,092 --> 00:22:38,574
it's time to really look into
what these guys are doing.
430
00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:44,840
I happened to pick up
the newspaper
431
00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:46,930
and I notice that
there's an article
432
00:22:47,017 --> 00:22:52,545
about the SEC
investigating Stratton Oakmont.
433
00:22:52,632 --> 00:22:55,591
Jordan called me right after
the article appeared
434
00:22:55,722 --> 00:22:57,679
and said,
I need to talk to you.
435
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,204
I said, where the
fuck have you been?
436
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:03,511
Now you're under
full investigation.
437
00:23:03,512 --> 00:23:07,081
Like in Scorsese's movie,
we set them up in a room.
438
00:23:07,211 --> 00:23:08,778
I had it bugged
439
00:23:08,865 --> 00:23:10,911
and the air conditioning
turned up so high
440
00:23:10,998 --> 00:23:12,739
that it felt like Antarctica
in there.
441
00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:16,351
The scene in the movie
with the temperature, um,
442
00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:19,441
I didn't witness that,
but I believe that.
443
00:23:19,528 --> 00:23:23,924
Jordan continuously
felt invincible.
444
00:23:24,054 --> 00:23:25,316
I had to run reports
445
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:27,362
and I knew all these
investigations were going on.
446
00:23:27,449 --> 00:23:29,146
And it was almost like
447
00:23:29,277 --> 00:23:31,497
a "Catch Me If You Can"
environment.
448
00:23:31,584 --> 00:23:35,022
We were, like, trying
to stay ahead all the time.
449
00:23:36,632 --> 00:23:39,374
The SEC was kind of
really, you know,
450
00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:42,159
ironical about the SEC
'cause they were not
451
00:23:42,290 --> 00:23:44,335
the sharpest tools in the shed.
452
00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:47,295
I never had much respect
for them at all.
453
00:23:48,775 --> 00:23:52,387
The attitude was
screw the SEC.
454
00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:55,259
Hire a lawyer and let them
take care of it, whatever.
455
00:23:55,346 --> 00:23:57,871
Quite frankly,
without being pejorative,
456
00:23:57,958 --> 00:24:03,006
it was totally slow-moving
and terribly ineffective.
457
00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:04,747
Hi.
458
00:24:04,878 --> 00:24:09,709
Whenever news came across,
it was quickly dispelled
459
00:24:09,796 --> 00:24:13,625
as bullshit, it's bullshit,
it's bullshit.
460
00:24:13,626 --> 00:24:16,150
We were convinced that
we were untouchable.
461
00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:34,081
Few weeks ago,
I went with my son to polo
462
00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:37,563
and there was a sweater
with a teddy bear.
463
00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:42,350
And it was 250
and I fucking didn't buy it.
464
00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:47,267
Back then,
I never looked at a price tag.
465
00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:49,575
I just bought it.
466
00:24:49,705 --> 00:24:52,360
At the time, side note,
467
00:24:52,447 --> 00:24:55,929
I was dating the shot girl
from Scores,
468
00:24:56,016 --> 00:24:58,671
a very, very high-end
strip bar.
469
00:24:58,758 --> 00:25:01,804
Everyone I've gone out with
since the beginning of time
470
00:25:01,891 --> 00:25:05,112
has just been one smoke show
after another.
471
00:25:05,199 --> 00:25:08,811
So this is called
the Miracle Mile.
472
00:25:08,942 --> 00:25:13,773
And why?
473
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:17,472
Because if you can afford
to shop here,
474
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,039
it's a fucking miracle.
475
00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:25,698
It is every high-end brand.
476
00:25:25,785 --> 00:25:29,179
Ralph Lauren,
Christian Dior, Gucci.
477
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:30,833
There's Tiffany.
478
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,097
Back then, I bought
500 bars of Tiffany soap
479
00:25:34,228 --> 00:25:35,490
because I liked it.
480
00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:37,883
Rolex, that was my go-to store
481
00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:42,453
because I had
a addiction to watches.
482
00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:46,936
I amassed $300,000 to $400,000
483
00:25:47,023 --> 00:25:48,938
in watches.
484
00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:52,289
I'd buy stuff that you
would never, ever buy.
485
00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:58,252
I bought a $1,600
Gianni Versace soap tray.
486
00:25:58,339 --> 00:26:02,996
I still have it and look
at it and go, what the fuck?
487
00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:06,129
Who buys a $1,600 soap dish?
488
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:07,740
Took a limo everywhere.
489
00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:09,132
People used to tease me,
what do you do,
490
00:26:09,263 --> 00:26:11,091
take a limo to the mailbox,
you know?
491
00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:13,354
They had a tailor
that would come
492
00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:15,137
and do custom suits
for people.
493
00:26:15,138 --> 00:26:18,228
We used to jump on
a helicopter to play golf,
494
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,578
come back the same day.
495
00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:24,234
I was on probably
five or six yachts
496
00:26:24,321 --> 00:26:27,020
before Jordan bought
the actual yacht, "Nadine."
497
00:26:27,107 --> 00:26:29,631
Jordan had it lengthened
by 25 feet
498
00:26:29,718 --> 00:26:32,547
so he could put a heliport
on top of it.
499
00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,375
We went to Monte Carlo.
500
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:35,811
I had wired in money
501
00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:37,944
and we were there
for maybe a couple hours
502
00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:40,686
and I won almost $1 million.
503
00:26:40,773 --> 00:26:43,427
It was youth wasted on the
young to the utmost degree.
504
00:26:43,514 --> 00:26:48,389
If it weren't so illegal,
what we were all engaged in,
505
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,913
it would have been something
I'd probably still be doing.
506
00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:57,746
The SEC, they moved
relatively slowly.
507
00:26:57,877 --> 00:27:00,922
But eventually,
the SEC picks up the phone,
508
00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:02,969
calls somebody
in the U.S. Attorney's Office,
509
00:27:03,056 --> 00:27:04,666
and says,
have I got a case for you.
510
00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:11,150
They said no white shirt
and all of my...
511
00:27:11,151 --> 00:27:12,587
I appreciate that.
512
00:27:12,718 --> 00:27:14,283
Business shirts
are white shirts.
513
00:27:14,284 --> 00:27:18,592
That's what J. Edgar told us.
Gotta wear the white shirt.
514
00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:19,986
My name is Gregory Coleman.
515
00:27:20,073 --> 00:27:21,770
I'm played by Kyle Chandler
516
00:27:21,901 --> 00:27:23,424
in the movie
"The Wolf of Wall Street."
517
00:27:23,554 --> 00:27:25,774
And you got the
beautiful girls here!
518
00:27:25,861 --> 00:27:26,949
It's wonderful.
- All right.
519
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,734
Get the fuck off my boat.
520
00:27:28,821 --> 00:27:31,998
Belfort had the good luck
of setting up shop
521
00:27:32,085 --> 00:27:33,913
when the FBI
really wasn't focusing
522
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,610
on securities fraud cases.
523
00:27:35,741 --> 00:27:39,091
But all of that changed
in 1992.
524
00:27:39,092 --> 00:27:43,009
The FBI sets up a group of
agents designed to investigate
525
00:27:43,096 --> 00:27:45,098
Wall Street-related crimes.
526
00:27:45,185 --> 00:27:48,536
Because of that, it moves it
from the civil realm
527
00:27:48,623 --> 00:27:50,625
where you're just suing people
and getting money
528
00:27:50,756 --> 00:27:52,105
and barring them
from the business
529
00:27:52,192 --> 00:27:53,280
to the criminal realm,
530
00:27:53,367 --> 00:27:56,325
because now he could go
to jail for it.
531
00:27:58,285 --> 00:28:01,983
The time and tested plan
in other criminal enterprises
532
00:28:01,984 --> 00:28:04,160
is to really work your way up
from the bottom.
533
00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:08,948
Pick off a couple of
low-level brokers was my idea.
534
00:28:09,035 --> 00:28:12,473
During my investigation,
there was a group of brokers
535
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,128
who paid other people
536
00:28:15,215 --> 00:28:19,349
to take the test
to become a licensed broker.
537
00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:22,656
Their fingerprints were
found on those forms
538
00:28:22,657 --> 00:28:25,833
many years after
the test-taking occurred.
539
00:28:25,834 --> 00:28:28,097
That meant that
from day one,
540
00:28:28,184 --> 00:28:30,839
they were never
properly licensed
541
00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:32,928
to sell securities
to the public.
542
00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:36,497
The brokers admitted to having
other people take their tests
543
00:28:36,584 --> 00:28:39,065
and that gave us leverage.
544
00:28:39,152 --> 00:28:42,458
We were taking the brokers that
we've--what we call flipped,
545
00:28:42,459 --> 00:28:44,026
that are cooperating with us.
546
00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:47,029
We just set them up
as witnesses
547
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,902
and then had them
feed us information
548
00:28:49,989 --> 00:28:54,384
on a regular basis
as to what was going on.
549
00:28:57,083 --> 00:29:01,260
When the SEC sues you,
you can pay a fine.
550
00:29:01,261 --> 00:29:04,046
But when the FBI get involved,
551
00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:07,180
that's the guys
with the windbreakers
552
00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:08,529
with the letters on the back
553
00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:10,400
and the guys who
have the guns.
554
00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:12,968
That's what you don't want.
555
00:29:13,055 --> 00:29:15,536
So now there are
all kinds of signs
556
00:29:15,623 --> 00:29:19,018
that there's stuff
going on that's not good.
557
00:29:19,105 --> 00:29:22,586
You start hearing clicks
on your phone.
558
00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:25,851
You try to open up a bank
account and the bank says,
559
00:29:25,938 --> 00:29:27,853
no, I'm afraid
we can't open an account.
560
00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:29,158
What the hell's up with that?
561
00:29:31,421 --> 00:29:34,293
One day, Jordan said, Ross,
we're going to play golf.
562
00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:35,512
Helicopter would fly over
563
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:36,731
and he would look
at the helicopter
564
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,994
and goes--
and he would say to me,
565
00:29:39,081 --> 00:29:40,690
oh, they're definitely
watching me.
566
00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:42,737
I think he was
getting nervous.
567
00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:46,915
And I think that's when
he got bodyguards, too.
568
00:29:47,002 --> 00:29:49,875
Let's turn to your friend,
Jordan Belfort.
569
00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:51,658
First of all,
he's not my friend.
570
00:29:51,659 --> 00:29:53,182
He's a little punk.
571
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:54,879
He knows I don't like him.
572
00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:57,491
My name is Bo Dietl.
573
00:29:57,621 --> 00:29:59,101
My real name is Richard Dietl,
574
00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:02,365
but Bo, I adopted when
I was 12 years old.
575
00:30:02,496 --> 00:30:05,194
I did security for Jordan
and his family.
576
00:30:05,281 --> 00:30:06,892
Marty Scorsese called me up.
577
00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:08,850
He goes, who are we going
to get to play you?
578
00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:11,026
I said, Marty,
I'm playing myself.
579
00:30:11,113 --> 00:30:12,462
The last time you took
these fucking pills,
580
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:13,812
you put your head
in the fucking macaroni.
581
00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:15,726
I had to pick it up.
582
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,120
How did you first
meet Jordan Belfort?
583
00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:20,383
Well, it was--
I got a call from Dick Grasso.
584
00:30:20,514 --> 00:30:22,124
Dick Grasso, at that time,
585
00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:24,126
was the head of the
New York Stock Exchange.
586
00:30:24,257 --> 00:30:27,913
He says, there's this company
in Lake Success.
587
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,871
The owner is this guy,
Jordan Belfort.
588
00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:33,483
And he's being shaken down
by gangsters,
589
00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:34,789
organized crime guys.
590
00:30:34,876 --> 00:30:37,052
And he needs your help, Bo.
591
00:30:37,183 --> 00:30:40,403
So go over and see him and
tell you tell him I sent you.
592
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:44,059
The organized crime guys,
593
00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:48,759
they knew what kind of money
Jordan was making.
594
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:51,805
Prior to me coming there,
they had probably said to him,
595
00:30:51,806 --> 00:30:54,809
Jordan, if you need some cash
to buy you this stuff,
596
00:30:54,896 --> 00:30:56,202
we can lend you some cash.
597
00:30:56,332 --> 00:30:58,595
But, you know,
once you let them in,
598
00:30:58,682 --> 00:31:01,468
you can't get rid of 'em.
599
00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:03,600
I gave my card to Jordan.
600
00:31:03,731 --> 00:31:06,865
I said, when they come back,
just tell them to contact me.
601
00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:10,346
I'll keep them away from you.
602
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:12,435
And then I would
get the phone call,
603
00:31:12,522 --> 00:31:15,046
and oh, what are you
doing over there, Bo?
604
00:31:15,047 --> 00:31:17,005
You know,
my boss told me to call you.
605
00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:18,528
So we had to sit down.
606
00:31:24,752 --> 00:31:26,145
And I told the guys,
look, guys,
607
00:31:26,232 --> 00:31:30,236
tell your boss to call his boss
and ask who I am, OK?
608
00:31:30,323 --> 00:31:33,282
And I knew everybody.
I grew up with all of them.
609
00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:35,415
And I had a respect factor.
610
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:38,112
I grew up in Ozone Park.
611
00:31:38,113 --> 00:31:42,421
I grew up with John Gotti,
the Scopo brothers.
612
00:31:42,422 --> 00:31:46,121
I met Fat Tony Salerno driving
Scopo up to the Colonial.
613
00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:47,253
So I knew everybody.
614
00:31:47,383 --> 00:31:49,210
They're my friends,
so that's simple.
615
00:31:51,126 --> 00:31:53,215
Let's just go somewhere else.
616
00:31:53,302 --> 00:31:54,650
You know,
this one, I'm protecting.
617
00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:57,524
I'm going to make money
doing the security here legit.
618
00:31:57,611 --> 00:31:59,265
And that's it.
619
00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:00,831
And I'm not going to let you
shake this place down.
620
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:02,224
That was the end of that.
621
00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,925
Jordan had a nice-sized
piece of property.
622
00:32:07,012 --> 00:32:10,145
That is portrayed
in the movie.
623
00:32:10,232 --> 00:32:12,843
We had security
at his home 24/7.
624
00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:15,411
I had Rocco day, Rocco night.
625
00:32:15,498 --> 00:32:17,586
We even had two guards
who worked in shifts.
626
00:32:17,587 --> 00:32:19,066
Both named Rocco.
627
00:32:19,067 --> 00:32:21,200
We had the security
in his offices,
628
00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:24,159
the place of business.
629
00:32:24,246 --> 00:32:27,074
But Jordan was paranoid.
630
00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:29,599
He was seriously
a paranoid little punk.
631
00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:30,644
They're coming, they're coming.
632
00:32:30,731 --> 00:32:31,950
Oh, he's looking
over his shoulder.
633
00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:37,303
He was a constantly high,
constantly high.
634
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:38,739
Jordan, he was the guy
to dangle the carrot
635
00:32:38,826 --> 00:32:40,132
in front of people's faces.
636
00:32:40,262 --> 00:32:41,481
People knew that
he made a lot of money,
637
00:32:41,568 --> 00:32:42,482
he had a lot of money.
638
00:32:42,569 --> 00:32:43,874
Everybody wanted
a piece of that.
639
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,747
And now,
they were indebted to him.
640
00:32:46,877 --> 00:32:49,010
So he controlled
people that way.
641
00:32:49,097 --> 00:32:50,707
It was all about him
making that money.
642
00:32:53,101 --> 00:32:57,845
I am a good guy
and I was a good guy,
643
00:32:57,932 --> 00:33:01,457
but I got involved
in a very bad thing.
644
00:33:01,544 --> 00:33:05,331
Once I knew it was full-blown
illegal, I had a real dilemma.
645
00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:09,335
And I think that's what really
accelerated my drug use.
646
00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:16,342
So it got to the point where
647
00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:21,477
I needed to be stoned
to do what I was doing.
648
00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:24,828
I would be so stoned
at the end of a day
649
00:33:24,915 --> 00:33:27,570
that there was
no getting me up.
650
00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:30,573
They would roll me
651
00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:33,620
out of my office
652
00:33:33,707 --> 00:33:35,578
out the doors
653
00:33:35,709 --> 00:33:38,190
into my car.
654
00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:42,455
Every time I got into a car,
I was never sober.
655
00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:46,415
I crashed 17 cars.
656
00:33:46,546 --> 00:33:49,505
I actually got the opportunity
to crash a Bentley
657
00:33:49,592 --> 00:33:52,030
into the brick wall of
one of the most
658
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,162
famous steakhouses
in Long Island.
659
00:33:54,249 --> 00:33:56,991
Now, one may ask, Howie,
how did you do that?
660
00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:58,993
Oh, because in
my stoned head,
661
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,257
I thought
they had a drive-thru.
662
00:34:02,388 --> 00:34:05,304
I was drinking
and doing quaaludes.
663
00:34:05,391 --> 00:34:08,611
And I had a Ferrari
and I smashed it up.
664
00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:11,613
It wasn't all fun and games.
665
00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:12,920
You know, young guys,
666
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:15,009
and they think that's the
funniest thing in the world.
667
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:16,663
It's amazing that I'm alive.
668
00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:21,059
It ate away at my soul.
669
00:34:21,189 --> 00:34:23,626
And I can remember when
I was on substances
670
00:34:23,713 --> 00:34:27,717
writing all the time,
671
00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:31,765
when will World War III
in my head stop?
672
00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:37,727
I had the real Howie
on this shoulder
673
00:34:37,814 --> 00:34:39,947
do the right thing,
you're a good guy.
674
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,036
And on this shoulder...
675
00:34:42,123 --> 00:34:44,299
go rob more money.
You'll love it.
676
00:34:53,656 --> 00:34:56,181
As we went further
in an investigation,
677
00:34:56,311 --> 00:35:01,055
I met a low-level broker who
we had leverage on
678
00:35:01,142 --> 00:35:03,623
to become
a cooperating witness.
679
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:05,320
So this particular doc,
I'll just read you a section.
680
00:35:05,451 --> 00:35:06,191
It says...
681
00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,723
This is coming from sources.
682
00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:19,378
Now you have to
go out and confirm
683
00:35:19,465 --> 00:35:20,856
what the sources are saying.
684
00:35:22,555 --> 00:35:24,861
So for me, I go out
and knock on doors.
685
00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:29,083
Eight out of ten would tell me
to get off their porch
686
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:30,128
and the other two would tell me
687
00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:32,782
to get the fuck off
their porch.
688
00:35:32,913 --> 00:35:34,957
But I was never
going to give up.
689
00:35:34,958 --> 00:35:37,439
I envisioned the bad guys
in a suit of armor.
690
00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:41,095
And I just needed to get
into the suit of armor
691
00:35:41,226 --> 00:35:44,533
and infect them
and then they would die.
692
00:35:44,664 --> 00:35:47,014
I was going to latch on
to a leg and never let go
693
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:50,365
no matter how much they kicked
me and tried to push me away.
694
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:55,762
While the FBI was
struggling to make headway
695
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:59,896
in its investigation,
the SEC come to realize
696
00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:04,510
through their own probe
into Stratton Oakmont
697
00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:07,991
that this is a company
built on fraud,
698
00:36:08,122 --> 00:36:10,384
manipulation, deception.
699
00:36:10,385 --> 00:36:14,824
It all revolves
around Jordan Belfort.
700
00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:16,609
The SEC was convinced
he was a bad guy,
701
00:36:16,696 --> 00:36:18,001
he shouldn't be
in the business,
702
00:36:18,132 --> 00:36:21,701
so Jordan had decided
he wasn't going to fight them.
703
00:36:21,788 --> 00:36:25,225
Jordan took a settlement.
704
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:30,231
Jordan took a bar from
the securities business.
705
00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:34,279
You're out. Lifetime.
You're out.
706
00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:36,019
I knew the day would
eventually come where
707
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:37,586
I'd have to be moving on.
708
00:36:37,717 --> 00:36:39,980
There's a scene out of
"The Wolf of Wall Street,"
709
00:36:40,067 --> 00:36:42,896
the SEC barring him
from the industry.
710
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:47,901
He makes this rah-rah speech
that he ain't leaving.
711
00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:49,337
I'm not fucking leaving!
712
00:36:52,775 --> 00:36:55,125
Well, this speech
never happened.
713
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,519
That scene was
complete bullshit.
714
00:36:57,606 --> 00:36:59,173
He got thrown out.
715
00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:00,435
The movie is inaccurate.
716
00:37:00,566 --> 00:37:03,221
So he leaves,
he gets a small fine,
717
00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:06,876
like $100,000, a slap
on the wrist, and he leaves.
718
00:37:07,007 --> 00:37:09,662
He quietly sailed off
into the distance.
719
00:37:09,792 --> 00:37:13,056
There was never
a farewell speech.
720
00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:14,884
Never happened.
721
00:37:14,971 --> 00:37:16,408
The truth of the matter is
722
00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:20,194
Jordan left the firm
and Danny took over.
723
00:37:20,281 --> 00:37:23,110
For Jordan,
this was yet another moment
724
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,112
where he was at a crossroads.
725
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,723
What was he going to do next?
726
00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:31,423
Stratton Oakmont was directed
to change its ways,
727
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:35,035
become legit in order
to continue its business.
728
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:38,647
I get a phone call.
729
00:37:38,734 --> 00:37:40,866
Jordan and I,
we hadn't spoken in a while.
730
00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:43,869
I'm literally
buried in law school
731
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:46,394
and he is in this new life.
732
00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,657
He just said, Andy,
I need to see you.
733
00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:51,878
OK, I drop what I'm doing
and I go and see him.
734
00:37:52,008 --> 00:37:54,663
'Cause he asked me to, period.
That's the relationship we had.
735
00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:56,622
He was my best friend.
736
00:37:56,709 --> 00:37:59,538
Jordan's probably closer to me
than my own brother.
737
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:04,238
So I arrive at the
Beverly Wilshire Hotel
738
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:08,286
and I go up to his room
and big, lush suite.
739
00:38:08,373 --> 00:38:10,026
And I'm looking
around, like,
740
00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:11,985
this is not the world
that I live in.
741
00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:13,639
I'm coming from law school.
742
00:38:13,726 --> 00:38:17,904
I'm expecting to take jobs
at a DA's office.
743
00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:20,994
Jordan tells me what
he's dealing with.
744
00:38:21,081 --> 00:38:22,952
He was having problems with
the regulators.
745
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:26,042
The SEC, NASD.
746
00:38:26,129 --> 00:38:29,175
I don't remember if it was
during that conversation,
747
00:38:29,176 --> 00:38:32,701
but he asked me to come.
748
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:36,096
My role was to implement
749
00:38:36,183 --> 00:38:37,967
what was being required
from the SEC.
750
00:38:40,535 --> 00:38:44,408
And he knew that my mother
was terminally ill.
751
00:38:44,409 --> 00:38:47,499
So it was, like, providing me
an opportunity
752
00:38:47,586 --> 00:38:51,764
to come back to New York
so I can have
753
00:38:51,851 --> 00:38:56,334
those last, you know,
moments with my mom.
754
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:58,074
This is a very difficult
subject for me.
755
00:38:58,161 --> 00:39:01,861
I mean, I had choices.
756
00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:04,951
Build this career,
or, you know,
757
00:39:05,081 --> 00:39:09,651
my mother would pass away and
then I'd have no time with her.
758
00:39:09,738 --> 00:39:12,350
Having an opportunity
to be around my mom
759
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,396
for those last years
was important.
760
00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:18,007
So I was going to find
a way to make it work.
761
00:39:25,319 --> 00:39:27,190
My first arrival there,
762
00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:29,584
and I'm working 16,
18-hour days
763
00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:32,892
to make sure that
this firm survives.
764
00:39:32,979 --> 00:39:34,894
Stratton Oakmont could
have been changed,
765
00:39:34,981 --> 00:39:36,590
transactions could
have changed,
766
00:39:36,591 --> 00:39:40,029
and still made the firm
a zillion dollars.
767
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,556
The SEC rule states I had
to record all the phone calls
768
00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:45,905
going in and out of this firm.
769
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,346
If you were caught
doing a transaction
770
00:39:52,433 --> 00:39:55,567
and I couldn't pull the tape
of that transaction,
771
00:39:55,654 --> 00:39:59,353
you have violated
the SEC guidelines.
772
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,618
All of this system from '94,
773
00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:06,665
it's working,
but in '95...
774
00:40:10,364 --> 00:40:11,974
All of a sudden, it started
happening where there were
775
00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:15,369
certain conversations
that were missing.
776
00:40:15,456 --> 00:40:16,979
Think about what
you're dealing with.
777
00:40:17,066 --> 00:40:18,938
You know, they came in
and they said,
778
00:40:19,025 --> 00:40:21,288
every phone call's
going to be taped.
779
00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:23,159
Ooh, wow.
780
00:40:23,246 --> 00:40:26,859
So we had a phone system
for "taped calls"
781
00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:30,602
and we then built a phone
system for not-taped calls.
782
00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,778
You know, it didn't take
very much thinking on that one.
783
00:40:35,737 --> 00:40:37,870
So it seems like
the SEC's directives
784
00:40:37,957 --> 00:40:40,873
were not taken seriously
by Stratton Oakmont,
785
00:40:41,003 --> 00:40:43,658
and it was just
business as usual.
786
00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:47,314
To be honest,
I think that Danny was just
787
00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:50,970
the front person of Stratton.
788
00:40:51,057 --> 00:40:53,320
And Jordan is the
puppet master
789
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,018
and he's pulling strings
in the background
790
00:40:56,105 --> 00:40:58,281
wheeling and dealing.
791
00:40:58,412 --> 00:41:00,631
Jordan was active in
coordinating deals
792
00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:02,851
with Biltmore after
he was suspended.
793
00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:05,941
We would get together
at restaurants
794
00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:08,117
and we would discuss trading
795
00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:13,775
with other firms that
comprised our axis of evil.
796
00:41:13,862 --> 00:41:15,516
Jordan was still
involved in IPOs
797
00:41:15,647 --> 00:41:17,344
through Stratton's
sister firms,
798
00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,434
Biltmore and Monroe Parker.
799
00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:23,829
I have these FBI documents
that actually states
800
00:41:23,916 --> 00:41:26,396
Jordan's making money
off of these IPOs,
801
00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:28,573
but it seems to be
in violation
802
00:41:28,703 --> 00:41:31,706
of the agreement he signed
with the SEC that barred him.
803
00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:36,102
Mr. Belfort was involved
in all the deals.
804
00:41:36,232 --> 00:41:40,280
The man behind the curtain was
always Jordan Belfort.
805
00:41:55,425 --> 00:41:58,603
During this time, '94, '95,
806
00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:01,475
we went on vacations to Newport
807
00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:04,173
and Martha's Vineyard
and Nantucket.
808
00:42:04,304 --> 00:42:06,698
We would spend time together.
809
00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:08,829
When I was at
Stratton Oakmont,
810
00:42:08,830 --> 00:42:13,355
my job was to handle all
of the federal regulators,
811
00:42:13,356 --> 00:42:16,882
deal with the lawyers,
the independent auditor.
812
00:42:16,969 --> 00:42:18,971
I knew what had to be done
and I did it.
813
00:42:19,058 --> 00:42:20,712
He trusted me.
814
00:42:21,713 --> 00:42:23,062
Why me?
815
00:42:23,149 --> 00:42:25,193
'Cause he knew that
there was nobody
816
00:42:25,194 --> 00:42:26,848
that was going to throw me
off-kilter.
817
00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,807
And I dealt with
all the regulators
818
00:42:28,894 --> 00:42:31,200
and attorneys straight up,
819
00:42:31,331 --> 00:42:34,900
But that's the part where
this unravels.
820
00:42:37,729 --> 00:42:42,560
One day, we're going through
piles and piles of documents.
821
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:44,736
Up comes a copy of a document
822
00:42:44,823 --> 00:42:47,607
that had not yet seen
the light of day.
823
00:42:47,608 --> 00:42:51,133
No one knew that
that document existed.
824
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:54,310
The document paid him
$1 million a month.
825
00:42:54,441 --> 00:42:56,878
A month.
826
00:42:57,009 --> 00:42:58,401
On his way out from
Stratton Oakmont,
827
00:42:58,532 --> 00:43:00,621
Jordan negotiates
this exit agreement.
828
00:43:00,708 --> 00:43:03,015
No one knew about
Jordan's exit agreement
829
00:43:03,145 --> 00:43:06,975
except for Danny, Jordan,
and their accountant.
830
00:43:07,106 --> 00:43:08,846
But now we know
831
00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:12,590
over time, they agreed
to pay him $180 million.
832
00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:15,461
The document as written
833
00:43:15,462 --> 00:43:19,248
did not technically
violate his SEC agreement.
834
00:43:19,335 --> 00:43:21,642
But the argument
that could be made
835
00:43:21,773 --> 00:43:27,256
is that you really had
control of the firm
836
00:43:27,387 --> 00:43:30,998
because all the money's
being paid out to you.
837
00:43:30,999 --> 00:43:35,089
If all this money is
still flowing to Jordan,
838
00:43:35,090 --> 00:43:37,440
one could argue that
he actually never left.
839
00:43:37,571 --> 00:43:42,315
Now Jordan and I have
a private conversation.
840
00:43:42,402 --> 00:43:45,709
There was a lot of yelling.
841
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:47,233
He didn't want
for the regulators
842
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,451
to have that document.
843
00:43:49,452 --> 00:43:52,934
He just said, Andy,
you work for me.
844
00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:57,025
You're going to do
everything to protect me.
845
00:43:57,156 --> 00:44:00,812
'Cause as far as
he's concerned...
846
00:44:00,942 --> 00:44:04,119
I'm supposed to fall
on my sword.
847
00:44:04,206 --> 00:44:06,208
Isn't that what
best friends do?
848
00:44:08,994 --> 00:44:11,257
He threw me over the side.
849
00:44:11,387 --> 00:44:15,914
I was not going to do that
and put myself in a position
850
00:44:16,001 --> 00:44:20,832
where the company could say
I did something wrong.
851
00:44:20,962 --> 00:44:23,486
It took a part of me.
852
00:44:23,573 --> 00:44:26,664
It took a part of who I am.
853
00:44:26,751 --> 00:44:30,058
Because I no longer could feel
that I could trust.
854
00:44:30,189 --> 00:44:33,279
It was very hard for me
855
00:44:33,409 --> 00:44:37,762
between all of this,
and my mother's terminally ill.
856
00:44:39,546 --> 00:44:42,549
So it was like, my life
857
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,944
came and blew up
in Stratton Oakmont.
858
00:44:46,945 --> 00:44:49,904
That was it.
Our friendship was over.
859
00:44:54,169 --> 00:44:57,651
After Jordan's finally
disbarred in 1994,
860
00:44:57,738 --> 00:44:59,131
his whole attitude changed.
861
00:44:59,218 --> 00:45:02,742
His power, his empowerment,
you saw, started to lessen
862
00:45:02,743 --> 00:45:06,181
because he wasn't able
to give his morning meetings.
863
00:45:06,312 --> 00:45:10,359
He wasn't a part of that whole
camaraderie that he created.
864
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:14,319
He was upset about that
'cause he loves to work.
865
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,669
You know, you have to remember
866
00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:17,671
when you have that
sort of personality,
867
00:45:17,758 --> 00:45:20,979
that grandiose personality,
868
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:24,939
nobody's going to tell him
what to do.
869
00:45:25,026 --> 00:45:26,462
It has to put pressure
on a person.
870
00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:28,377
Constantly running,
constantly plotting,
871
00:45:28,464 --> 00:45:31,990
constantly tap-dancing
and keeping up this illusion.
872
00:45:32,077 --> 00:45:33,556
It could not have been easy.
873
00:45:33,687 --> 00:45:38,561
He was a multi-faceted
human being like we all are.
874
00:45:38,692 --> 00:45:40,476
But I don't know what
their relationship was,
875
00:45:40,563 --> 00:45:45,612
Nadine and Jordan, but I know
it was starting to deteriorate.
876
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,397
We didn't really fight
about women ever.
877
00:45:48,528 --> 00:45:50,182
We fought about
his drug addiction.
878
00:45:50,269 --> 00:45:53,272
But he has all the money
and he has all the power.
879
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:55,361
Even if I want to leave him,
880
00:45:55,448 --> 00:45:59,147
I'm thinking, is he going to
try to take my kids from me?
881
00:45:59,278 --> 00:46:01,671
I'm totally afraid of him.
882
00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:05,240
Jordan had
a big vial of ludes.
883
00:46:05,327 --> 00:46:09,201
And Nadine said to me, Ross,
I do not want him having these.
884
00:46:09,288 --> 00:46:10,942
Take them.
885
00:46:11,029 --> 00:46:13,292
Nadine was upset and worried
886
00:46:13,422 --> 00:46:15,685
that Jordan was going to kill
himself on all these ludes
887
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:19,863
'cause he was taking them
very frequently.
888
00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:21,822
Jordan was partying
in the Hamptons,
889
00:46:21,953 --> 00:46:26,871
ripping apart furniture
looking for drugs.
890
00:46:26,958 --> 00:46:30,004
He would fall asleep
in public routinely.
891
00:46:30,091 --> 00:46:33,181
It was sad.
It was sad to watch.
892
00:46:33,268 --> 00:46:35,749
His drug addiction
became out of control
893
00:46:35,836 --> 00:46:38,143
to the point where
my friendship to him
894
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:41,363
was also being his bodyguard
and his babysitter.
895
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:42,582
He really didn't care.
896
00:46:42,669 --> 00:46:44,236
He was in such a stupor
897
00:46:44,323 --> 00:46:47,195
that he never realized that--
what was coming.
898
00:46:53,288 --> 00:46:56,465
With this investigation, I
knew I was on the right trail.
899
00:46:56,552 --> 00:47:00,513
I had all of this information,
but I can't prosecute a case.
900
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,209
I can only investigate it.
901
00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:03,777
There did come a point
in time where
902
00:47:03,864 --> 00:47:07,520
I just didn't think I was ever
going to get it prosecuted.
903
00:47:07,607 --> 00:47:11,959
One of the big drawbacks was
a turnover of prosecutors.
904
00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:13,656
We went through five.
905
00:47:13,787 --> 00:47:18,313
After each prosecutor left,
I would start over
906
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,315
and I would bring in
the same witnesses again.
907
00:47:20,402 --> 00:47:23,014
We'd go through
the same testimony again.
908
00:47:23,101 --> 00:47:26,886
It really started
to concern me.
909
00:47:26,887 --> 00:47:29,934
Even people at the FBI
were saying,
910
00:47:30,064 --> 00:47:32,892
hey, Coleman, you gotta
make this case, right?
911
00:47:32,893 --> 00:47:35,243
You gotta do something here.
912
00:47:35,374 --> 00:47:37,332
There was a point in time
where I was pretty sure
913
00:47:37,419 --> 00:47:41,771
the Bureau was going to
shut down the investigation.
914
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:45,166
But then at some point,
Joel Cohen joined the case.
915
00:47:45,253 --> 00:47:47,734
Literally changed the case.
916
00:47:49,605 --> 00:47:51,693
I'd just come back from
a year's assignment in Paris
917
00:47:51,694 --> 00:47:53,696
and senior people
in the office said
918
00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:55,046
there's a Stratton Oakmont
investigation
919
00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:56,264
you probably know about.
920
00:47:56,395 --> 00:47:58,005
It's been going on
for a couple years.
921
00:47:58,092 --> 00:47:59,311
It's not making
a lot of headway.
922
00:47:59,441 --> 00:48:01,529
Would you be interested
in taking this on?
923
00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:04,707
In the mass of everything that
Greg had been gathering...
924
00:48:04,838 --> 00:48:06,143
there were a lot of gems
925
00:48:06,144 --> 00:48:08,624
and a lot of pathways
to be successful.
926
00:48:08,711 --> 00:48:10,365
These guys are toast.
927
00:48:28,296 --> 00:48:30,037
Inside Stratton Oakmont,
928
00:48:30,124 --> 00:48:32,561
the brokers believe
they're invincible.
929
00:48:33,823 --> 00:48:36,174
The Batline rang and said...
930
00:48:39,394 --> 00:48:41,092
NASDAQ shut us down.
931
00:48:41,179 --> 00:48:44,356
Everybody scattered
like roaches.
932
00:48:44,486 --> 00:48:48,708
But Jordan is addicted
to the game.
933
00:48:48,795 --> 00:48:50,231
He had $3 million
in his bedroom.
934
00:48:52,581 --> 00:48:53,539
It's the American way.
935
00:48:53,626 --> 00:48:54,801
And to me, that was like
936
00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:58,196
basically saying
to the government, fuck you.
937
00:48:58,283 --> 00:49:00,894
The FBI is conducting
an investigation.
938
00:49:01,025 --> 00:49:03,810
Jordan started
to feel the heat.
939
00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:08,162
The big breakthrough was
an ex-Hell's Angel.
940
00:49:08,249 --> 00:49:11,470
He is a piece in the money
laundering chain.
941
00:49:11,557 --> 00:49:14,647
Our goal was just to try to
see if we could flip Jordan.
942
00:49:14,734 --> 00:49:16,779
And we tie it with the bow.
We have our indictment.
943
00:49:19,739 --> 00:49:21,393
He's a rat piece of shit.
71417
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