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They appreciate life far more
than the average man does.
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A driver usually gets
killed on a Sunday.
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And if he's a close friend of yours,
well, you think, what a stupid sport this
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is, and you think
seriously of giving it up.
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But on Monday you think, well,
maybe he was just unlucky, maybe I
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shouldn't give it up yet,
I'll give it up next year.
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But on the Tuesday you start thinking
about, well, there's a race next Sunday,
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maybe I'll go.
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So on Wednesday
you go to the race.
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And you think, well, maybe I shouldn't give
it up yet, maybe I'll give it up next year.
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Enzo Ferrari once said, win or die,
you'll be immortal, talking to his drivers.
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And of course he's right, because every
time I go to a Grand Prix, those essences
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are part of what makes
the sport what it is.
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And without drivers
like Michael Hawthorne
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and Peter Collins, it
would be all the poorer.
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The Ferrari name is very important to
Formula One today because it's a symbol of
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the history of the sport that was once
the most dangerous sport on earth and still
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trades on those associations
of risk and glamour.
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We think these guys
must be daredevils
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because Collins and
Hawthorne were daredevils.
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I look back on it now and I just
perceive them, the drivers of the time,
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as an entirely different breed.
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Controlling this powerful beast under your
rear, balancing this car on this tightrope
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and taking the best
line through the corner.
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This gave you a
sense of ecstasy.
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It was an era of great
glamour and great risk.
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These men went out to
drive these red cars not
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knowing whether they
would come back alive.
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Michael Hawthorne described how we
as young men were all willing to jump into
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the cooking pot under which
Mr Ferrari kept the fire stoked.
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When it came to running drivers,
Ferrari's approach was the more pressure
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you put on them and the more unsettled
they feel the faster they will go.
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These guys were experiencing the
buzz of competition in cars but they were
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subjecting themselves willingly
to all the attached dangers.
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There's something about the motor racing
world that, as far as we were concerned,
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when catastrophes would
happen, we would kind
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of just carry on and
not let it get us down.
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And I think that was the
attitude of a lot of people then.
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Fear is really a lack of
understanding of what is happening.
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Like when you're a child,
you're frightened of the
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dark because you don't
understand what's there.
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I am not normally
afraid of killing myself.
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I am frightened of being killed by
something over which I have no control.
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The great thing about Mike Hawthorne and
Peter Collins is that they would do what a
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land speed record breaker,
John Cobb, described.
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He said it's pretty much
akin to seeing how far you
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can lean out of the window
before you finally fall out.
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And that's what those boys
with Ferrari did in the 1950s.
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They willingly leant out of the
window as far as they possibly could.
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And a few of them, and in
retrospect far too many, fell out.
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At ten years old, you
attend the first race.
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How do you see that moment?
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How did you experience it?
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With the tremor of a boy
who wanted to be able to
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present himself in the
same conditions one day.
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Ferrari had a
difficult early life.
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His father died when he was quite
young and then his only brother also died,
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leaving him more or less alone
when he was still in his teens.
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But he was very keen on cars.
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So when he had to make
his own way in the world, cars
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and motor racing were the
things that attracted him most.
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What has played
more in his history?
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Passion or the desire
to assert himself?
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It was mainly passion.
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What do you feel
before the road?
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Anxiety?
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Fear?
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Before the road, you
feel a sum of sensations
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that disappear as
the road is given.
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The moment you go FH.
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Toss and A sick
driving experience?
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Enzo Ferrari was a great talent scout,
and after the war, although there were
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many good young Italian drivers,
he spotted that there was a bunch of
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English drivers who
were singer to do very well.
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Well, indeed.
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Hawthorne and Collins had
some years between them.
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Mike was the older
by two or three years.
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He really made his name in the little
Riley that was prepared by his father.
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Every time they went to a
race meeting, here was a
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young man who expected
to come away with a trophy.
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Peter, when he started racing with a 500cc
Cooper that his father, Pat, bought for
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him, he was immediately quick
and he was only 17 years old.
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Hawthorne and Collins met as rivals on the
racetrack, but eventually, when they both
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found themselves in Modena driving for
Ferrari, they became enormous friends.
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Mike was a sort of a sports-jacketed,
beer-drinking one of the lads.
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Never know how much I love you Never know
how much I care He and Peter Collins were
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like a pair of rather
irresponsible schoolboys.
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Tremendously fun-loving.
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Peter was a life-enhancer.
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When he came into the
room, things got jollier,
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noisier and altogether
more entertaining.
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When I first met Mike,
he was tall, good-looking,
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and I thought, ooh, that's
a lovely-looking man.
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So I set my heart on him.
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He was a great character and a very
flash sort of guy who was a lot of fun.
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I think he used motor
racing as a stepping stone to
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enjoyment of life, whereas
to me it was the life.
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You were either Hawthorne fan or
Moss fan, you couldn't really be both.
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Peter in particular, I think,
was very much a boy's own
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character of what an exciting
racing driver should be.
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The girls loved him and I didn't
see too great an effort on his part.
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I think he was the one
who had to fight them off.
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Mr Ferrari had always
had a soft spot for the Brits.
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Mike went there and the old man was pretty
impressed because here was somebody who
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was prepared to put it on the line
and that was the sort of thrusting,
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aggressive, young driver
that Mr Ferrari really rated.
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When I was with Mike, he just stood out
amongst the others as being very beautiful.
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We were intoxicated by the
atmosphere of these wonderful, wild men.
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It was fun, it was
like a big family.
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Everybody knew everybody,
but it was dangerous.
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And wherever you get
danger, you get this thrill.
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Hawthorne did very well
in his first spell with Ferrari.
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He won a couple of races.
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But then when his father
died, and he wanted to drive
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sports cars for Jaguar,
he went back to England.
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And I think Ferrari was
very disappointed by that.
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I'm sure he wanted
to hang on to him.
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I think for most of the Grand Prix
drivers, Le Mans was a bit of a bore
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because it was a test of
the car, but not the driver.
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And I think that Mike and Fangio got
involved in what had become a Grand Prix,
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more or less, at the beginning of
the race, taking the boredom out of it.
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Drivers are requested to get
to... the places assigned to them.
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Stand by.
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5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.
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Lap after lap, Hawthorne
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trawled with an exhibition of driving
skill no words can adequately describe.
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This battle royal that's been raging in
those opening laps really reached a climax
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that was just more cataclysmic
than anybody could possibly imagine.
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Everything went normally
in practice, and I was
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given the job of starting
doing the first spell.
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And I was actually out on the circuit
when this dreadful accident happened.
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Coming out of the White
House bends and up
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towards the pits, Mike
saw the idea of driving.
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He had the opportunity to lap
one more car before he pulled
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across to the right and braked
for his scheduled pit stop.
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That one last car was the works
Austin Healey, driven by Lance Macklin.
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Trouble was, that race was
the first time the new rule had
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come in where you had to
change the driver every two hours.
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So Mike knew that another lap would
have taken him over the two hours.
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In braking hard, Lance
Macklin pulled out...
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very sharply to the left to
avoid the back of Mike's Jaguar.
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And then suddenly there
was an almighty bang and
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Levesque's car came sort
of right over the top of me.
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His wheel came right
past my left ear and I could
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feel the heat of his exhaust
as he went by so close.
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Levesque ran up the sloping tail of the
Austin Healey, flew the best part of 100
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yards completely airborne,
and then crashed belly first
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onto the top edge of the
safety bank in front of him.
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Approaching the pits I saw
a blue flag out so I eased
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off and of course then I came
across this absolute chaos.
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When Levesque's Mercedes hit the top edge
of the bank, the chassis sheared and the
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entire front end assembly
was hurled through the
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crowd and it went
through the crowd like this.
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Like a torpedo.
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And it killed over 80 of them
and it injured over 100 more.
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There were even children in the front row
who'd been put there for the best view and
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they were right in the firing line of
the wreckage that tore through them.
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What most people didn't realise was that
it was on such a grand scale and why the
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organisers had decided to
continue the race was to enable
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them to get the emergency
vehicles away from the circuit.
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I hadn't seen anything with the accident as
such because where I ended up was about
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two or three hundred yards
from where the accident was.
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I could see the car burning
on the side of the track
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but at least I thought it
didn't go in the crowd.
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I went into the Austin Healey pit and
Donald Healey told me that Mike had come
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in and said to Lance,
can you ever forgive me?
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He literally sort of staggered across to
where we were, tears pouring down his face.
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He came up to me and put his arm over
my shoulder and he said, I've killed all
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these people, I'll never
race again and so on.
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A few hours later he was back
in the car and driving again.
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Hawthorne and Bueb drove a brilliant
remaining part of the race to win.
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And contemporary movie
shows Mike very conflicted in his
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facial expressions about
whether to enjoy this victory or not.
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But when he did break into a grin,
stills photographers got that photograph
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and photographs of a beaming Mike
Hawthorne having just won at Le Mans after
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the colossal tragedy that
had marred the race were
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used by the press to vilify
Mike around the world.
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It did affect him terribly.
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He was desperately upset
but it wasn't actually his fault.
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I mean, he was exonerated and
he shouldn't have to feel like that.
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He had this sort of air of, um,
Delmay care, you know, attitude.
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But actually he did care,
he cared an awful lot.
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He didn't care, he didn't care.
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He didn't care, he didn't care.
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He didn't care, he didn't care.
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Ferrari in Italy was a towering
figure, even at the time.
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It's the single most significant automotive
industry figure of the 20th century.
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He was a survivor.
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He was a chameleon.
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Such a manipulator of men.
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He regarded it as a sport
in its own right, I think.
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The Scuderia was a stable.
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Effectively, in which Ferrari would
pick the best talent that he could find.
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The drivers were the public
face of the Scuderia and he
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would take the cream of the
talent that was available to him.
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Eugenio Castellotti came
from a little town called Lodi.
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He got into racing because
it was a big macho deal.
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It was what the king
of the kids would do.
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Hey, look at me.
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And he did have a talent.
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He had a shining
talent, in fact.
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Musso was from Rome.
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He was an Elio De
Angelis at the time.
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Whereas Castellotti was a
street fighter from northern Italy.
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Luigi Musso was a charismatic
Italian racing driver of the first order.
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Let's not mince words here.
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The guy was very good.
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I think while Castellotti and Musso were
at Ferrari together, there was a certain
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amount of shared
responsibility, if you like.
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You've got two drivers there who brought
Italy into Grand Prix racing in a way that.
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is unimaginable now.
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Because the whole
country was behind them.
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And both of them gave it 100%.
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Fonda Portago was a nobleman and
a sportsman of every possible variety.
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And he was a very
attractive personality.
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He was a real playboy.
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But he was a playboy who
didn't mind getting his hands dirty.
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He's a man devoted to sport.
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Whether it be skiing, bobsleighing,
water skiing, swimming, fishing,
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hunting, whatever it might be.
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He was in some ways,
you know, the sort of most
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natural Ferrari driver of
the whole of the 1950s.
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You know, if you had to design a Ferrari
driver, it would have been Fonda Portago.
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And he had the
girlfriends to go with it too.
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The Scuderia was led
by Juan Manuel Fangio.
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And Castellotti apparently would
hang on Fangio's every word.
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Fangio to me is the best
driver in the world, bar none.
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He was a great man.
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He was a man that whatever he
could do once, he could continue to do.
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And it was a beautiful balance in
the rhythm of a man and the vehicle.
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Enzo Ferrari was once asked, when a
car crosses the line to take the chequered
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flag, how much of it is car,
how much of it is driver?
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And he said, 60%
car, 40% driver.
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The sad thing was that Ferrari didn't
spend enough time learning how to deal
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with the drivers,
individual to individual.
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You know, every driver has
a different style of his own.
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Horson had an expression of a
man who's fighting on his face.
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Peter Collins is always
making faces at the crowds.
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Not deliberately, but
I've got to see a picture of
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Peter in which he is
making some kind of a face.
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Peter Collins had been driving for BRM, and
then he was offered a drive with Ferrari.
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Which would have been fantastic.
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What an amazing opportunity.
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Ferrari set himself up as the spider
in the middle of this extraordinary web,
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and he ensured that
everybody had to come to him.
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He never went to them.
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There is a story that Peter Collins,
when he went there to sign up,
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he thought, oh, you know,
this is going to be a big deal.
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And in fact, Peter was kept
waiting and waiting and waiting.
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And he was on the point of giving it
all up as a bad job, when ultimately,
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Mr Ferrari came sailing in.
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And everything was
sweetness and light.
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It was a sparkling honeymoon
for Peter Collins at Ferrari.
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He won in Formula One,
he won in other categories.
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Ferrari immediately
recognised his versatility.
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And overnight, almost, Peter
Collins became a star, not only in Italy,
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at Ferrari, but also on
the world racing stage.
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And victory goes to
Britain's Peter Collins and
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Mike Hawthorne, with
one second and one zero.
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So Peter Collins wins his first
Grand Prix for Scuderia Ferrari.
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Peter Collins joins
that exclusive band of
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British drivers who
have won a Grande Prix.
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It's incredible.
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There's no doubt that Peter Collins was
one of the drivers that Enzo Ferrari loved.
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He felt a real warmth
to him, which he didn't
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feel towards all his
drivers by any means.
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Peter Collins became
very friendly and very close
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with Dino, Mr Ferrari's,
sadly, terminally ill son.
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My husband did a wonderful
job, in a way, of helping
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to communicate between
the dying son and Enzo.
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Ferrari was very moved
by that, that Collins
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should show such
concern for his son.
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And Dino's death,
of course, was a...
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It was a shattering blow
to him and to his wife.
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And I think that brought
him closer to Collins.
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By the end of the 1956 season,
Collins has won the Belgian Grand Prix.
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He's won the French Grand Prix.
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He's in with a shout of
becoming the first British
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driver ever to win the FIA
Drivers' World Championship.
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There were five Lancia
Ferraris in the race.
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There was Fangio, Portago and
Collins, but also Castellotti and Musso.
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And a fierce, fierce rivalry.
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As you might guess, as soon as the Italian
Grand Prix started, Castellotti and also
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Luigi Musso went for it, you know, as
if the race was starting on the last lap.
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Fangio's car broke down.
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And in those days,
you could share a car
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with another driver
and get half the points.
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Musso came in and it
was suggested to him he
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should get out and
give the car to Fangio.
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And Musso had no
interest in that at all.
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And that was when Collins, of
course, did his famous selfless act.
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Collins is poised to win
the World Championship.
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He comes into the pits for his last
pit stop, beckoned to Fangio and said,
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you take my car and
I'll give up my chance
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for you to win yet another
World Championship.
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I can't actually think of another
driver, apart from Peter, to do that.
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Because all Peter had
to do was keep going and
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he was going to be the
man who would take it.
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He respected the superiority
of Fangio as a driver and I think
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he felt it would be unfair of
him not to provide the car.
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It was a very
chivalrous and respectful
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gesture, which Enzo
Ferrari appreciated a lot.
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Talking to the press afterwards,
Peter apparently said, I'm young,
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I'll get another chance.
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I
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was in a play at Coconut
Girl Playhouse in Florida and
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Peter was on his way from
Argentina back to England.
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The sky's above the blue The West Indies,
Cuba, all of Latin America are just beyond
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the horizon when you make
Miami your headquarters.
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My heart was wrapped up in
clover Oh, and then the spell was
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cast Sterling Moss actually
told Peter that I was in Florida.
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And so if he was going
through there, why not say hello?
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So he gave me a ring and Monday night after
the play we got together and that was it.
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Wednesday he
asked me to marry him.
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Friday my father came down from
New York to stop this whole nonsense.
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He was with the United Nations,
a very dignified human being.
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He was a little unhappy
thinking that his daughter was
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going to marry a racing driver
that she didn't even know.
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And so it worked
out very beautifully.
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When did the decline
of an out-of-class start?
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The day that sets off
extra-sportive interests.
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Enzo Ferrari didn't like his drivers
getting tied down because he didn't like
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the idea that they had something else to
live for besides driving his racing cars.
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That would take the
edge off their speed.
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I think he loved the cars more
than the drivers because the
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cars were loyal to him and
the drivers very often weren't.
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Mr Ferrari always maintained that his
team number one would be the driver who
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performed best last Sunday, which
tended to keep them on their toes.
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By setting them to some extent in
competition with each other, by very often
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having five drivers for four
cars, it would ensure that they
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were performing at their
maximum the whole time for him.
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I think there would have been quite a lot
of culture shock for Mike Hawthorne and
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Peter Collins going into the Scuderia
Ferrari where they would have been
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surrounded by very
competitive Playboy drivers.
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I had dinner with Ferrari and we were
talking about racing as we usually do and
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all of a sudden he said,
but you know the drivers will
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always go to the factory
which produces the fastest cars.
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And I was just about to protest my love
to Ferrari when I realised that I would go
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somewhere else if they
produced a faster car.
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There's no loyalty
to the factory.
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There was a coloured, embittered
relationship between Fangio and Mr Ferrari.
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And so when Fangio left Ferrari at the end
of that World Championship winning season
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to go to the rival Maserati team, the
only person surprised was Mr Ferrari.
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When Mike Hawthorne rejoined the
Ferrari team at the start of 1957, they had
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Collins, Musso, the Spanish Marquis
von de Portago and they had Castellotti.
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It was an incredibly
strong team.
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One thing that I've always loved about
Castellotti was how neat and precise he
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was in his everyday
life and that's always a
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good sign I think to how
you are in a racing car.
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And you look at the way he used to pack
his racing suitcase with all his race kit.
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Everything was immaculate.
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Everything was
perfectly organised.
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And I think that showed
another side to Castellotti.
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He wasn't just a crazy Italian.
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This guy was good.
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Castellotti started
racing effectively with the
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Ferrari sports car that
his mother bought him.
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He grew up as a
gilded child really.
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He's another immature fellow that puts a
lot of money in and suddenly decided that
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he was going to do what most
wealthy Italians wish they could do.
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And that's be a
rear racing driver.
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And he's pretty good,
but he's not all that good.
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You claim that the drivers
are divided into two categories
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the professionals and the
ambitious, that is, the amateurs.
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Undoubtedly.
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You said that it's not true
that Italians race less than
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foreigners and yet those who
win are almost always foreigners.
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Evidently Italians
have not had the
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technical possibilities
that foreigners have.
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Everybody in Italy
was mad about racing.
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Even if there was no
television but there was
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a radio they were following
what was happening.
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I think being an Italian driving in Italy
and obviously having to prove yourself
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constantly against
drivers like Collins,
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Hawthorne and Moss
was very, very difficult.
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In March 1957 Castellotti was
called to do some testing for Ferrari.
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At the Modena test track.
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I mean it sounds ludicrous
in a way that Modena was
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the test track that both
Ferrari and Maserati used.
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And why it should have been so desperately
important who actually held the unofficial
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lap record at any given time
it's quite difficult to fathom now.
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But for whatever reason it was very
important particularly to Enzo Ferrari.
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Maserati had just broken
the lap record there.
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Mr Ferrari wasn't
happy with that.
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He wanted Ferrari to
hold the lap record there.
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And either spoken or tacitly
Castellotti was expected to
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go out and break the lap
record in the developing new car.
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Castellotti was summoned back
from Florence and it wasn't a request,
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it was a demand.
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And much against his will he
came back to Milan and went
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out to Modena got in the car
late afternoon and was killed.
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He either suffered a brake failure or the
throttle stuck open and the Ferrari rode
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over the kerbs flew into the air and began
to roll and it went into a little concrete
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built grandstand and it ended up in
the top row at the back of the grandstand.
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And Castellotti very sadly
had been thrown out of the
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car and he was rushed to
hospital and it was too late.
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There was no saving him.
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The thing that troubles us is when
somebody gets killed because the steering
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arm broke or because the wheel came off
and that worries us a lot because then we
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think what if it happened
on that car and I have to drive
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the same type of car it
could very well happen to me.
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I don't think Ferrari really was
capable of having relationships.
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I think he was a guy that was just driven
to do what he had to do in motor racing.
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And that was build cars that were capable
of winning and to find drivers that were
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capable of driving them and
what happened, happened.
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Collins was in the office with
Enzo Ferrari when the phone rang.
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It was with the news that
Castellotti had been killed.
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The old man said, oh
no, no, Castellotti, molto.
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And then, e la macchina?
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And how's the car?
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Ferrari, the most frequent
accusation, is a dictator.
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What do you think?
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If a dictator is to claim from others
the deepest commitment of my work,
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evidently they are right.
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Ferrari was a man I admired in some ways
and thought he was appalling in others.
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I think success is
important for Ferrari.
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But success because it showed that
he was one better than the other guy.
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Ultimately, it
was about Ferrari.
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And Ferrari have been
around now in some form
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or another since the
turn of the century almost.
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And the reason Ferrari is the biggest
brand in the world today, bigger than
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Formula One in motor racing terms,
and the reason people think about Ferrari
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the way they do is because it ultimately
is about the car and not the driver.
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Mr Ferrari became
absolutely well aware very early
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on that his, his favoured
sport was a killer.
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What kind of a guy is Ferrari?
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Well, Ferrari is a dictator.
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If he doesn't like you
he won't sell you a car.
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But as far as I'm concerned
he's a wonderful guy.
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Why do you race?
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Because I want to be
champion in the world.
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Life to me is a wonderful thing.
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And even if I live to be a hundred I still
won't be able to do a twentieth of all the
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things I want to do and read
all the books I want to read.
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And I plan to get a hundred.
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I want to get the most out of
it but I have no time to lose.
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Von Portago I knew quite well because I
saw him I was living in France at the time
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and he was one of the people
one saw regularly in Paris.
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He could do anything, Portago.
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He liked doing dangerous things.
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Everybody, no matter
how wealthy they are who
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drives aims to become
a professional driver.
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All you must have
is respect for the car.
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I have enormous respect
for the Grand Prix Ferrari.
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And I realize that if I treat it
badly it can very easily kill me.
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Every driver believes it
can never happen to him.
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I know that it won't
happen to me.
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Inside me I know it
won't happen to me.
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The Mille Miglia was a
thousand mile race around Italy on
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normal roads with millions
of spectators lining the roads.
451
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,660
And it was incredibly dangerous.
452
00:37:57,180 --> 00:38:01,440
Fonda Portago was driving a Ferrari that
was one of the most powerful cars in the
453
00:38:01,441 --> 00:38:03,940
race so he would have
been expected to do well.
454
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,327
It was actually a race
he detested and he didn't
455
00:38:07,328 --> 00:38:10,301
want to do that year
but Ferrari insisted.
456
00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:18,418
He was embroiled at that
time in a sort of mad passionate
457
00:38:18,419 --> 00:38:21,430
affair with this American
actress Linda Christian.
458
00:38:22,090 --> 00:38:25,809
And one of the control
points on the race Portago
459
00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:29,031
came in took on fuel and
he had his card stamped.
460
00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:34,030
One of the mechanics noticed the rear
bodywork was damaged and was actually
461
00:38:34,031 --> 00:38:37,090
folded over and it was
very, very close to the tyre.
462
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:42,190
They wanted to change the tyre and
Portago, you know, by all accounts just
463
00:38:42,191 --> 00:38:44,551
waved them away no, no,
no, I haven't got time for all that.
464
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:50,190
Then saw Linda Christian she came over and
there was this passionate kiss having said
465
00:38:50,191 --> 00:38:52,448
there's no time to try
and get the bodywork
466
00:38:52,449 --> 00:38:55,271
away from the tyre and
he got on his way again.
467
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,852
In the closing stages of the
race went at a place called
468
00:39:11,853 --> 00:39:15,400
Guidizzolo almost within
sight and earshot of the finish.
469
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,940
A tyre burst on the car.
470
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,500
The car left the road somersaulted,
hit the bank and disintegrated.
471
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,240
De Portago was killed Edmund
Nelson, his navigator, was also killed.
472
00:39:36,590 --> 00:39:38,883
Nine spectators were
killed five of them were
473
00:39:38,884 --> 00:39:42,001
children which made
it particularly shocking.
474
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:48,500
He died in the pursuit of a career to
which he had given all his time and energy
475
00:39:48,501 --> 00:39:51,460
and that great competitive spirit
which made him what he was.
476
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,900
That he should be killed on the threshold
of a magnificent racing career is a great
477
00:39:56,901 --> 00:39:59,305
loss to racing and
to the world of people
478
00:39:59,306 --> 00:40:01,600
who still retain an ounce
of romance in them.
479
00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:05,800
By the very nature of their lives
people like Portago do not die in bed.
480
00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:09,082
Their flags remain flying
on the many competitive
481
00:40:09,083 --> 00:40:11,480
fields where they enjoyed
their greatest triumphs.
482
00:40:12,255 --> 00:40:13,255
To the very end.
483
00:40:21,490 --> 00:40:27,210
It was not uncommon in the 1950s
for spectators to be killed but this one,
484
00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:30,230
it was the five children
that made the difference.
485
00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:35,310
For Enzo Ferrari this was a moment
when he had to dig very, very deep.
486
00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:38,072
The Mille Miglia was
never run again that was one
487
00:40:38,073 --> 00:40:40,731
thing but beyond that there
was a manslaughter charge.
488
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:46,150
There was an air of revulsion
and the Vatican was horrified.
489
00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:50,556
Do you feel responsible
for something with
490
00:40:50,557 --> 00:40:52,470
a moral weight when
these misfortunes occur?
491
00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:55,370
I deeply question myself.
492
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:58,510
What do you feel
when one of yours falls?
493
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,990
The desire to give up?
494
00:41:00,850 --> 00:41:01,850
Many things.
495
00:41:02,890 --> 00:41:03,890
Too many things.
496
00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:09,050
For example, the amazing
fragility of our lives.
497
00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:18,410
Mike Hawthorne had a
congenital kidney problem.
498
00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:26,110
He would have days where he would be very
pale and sweaty and weak and it showed.
499
00:41:28,270 --> 00:41:34,311
If he had gone public he risked not getting
a competition licence on medical grounds.
500
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:39,950
That was brushed under the carpet somewhat
carefully by simply saying I have a
501
00:41:39,951 --> 00:41:42,390
chronic condition which
flares up every now and then.
502
00:41:45,325 --> 00:41:47,330
From what I've been
told he used to get angry
503
00:41:47,331 --> 00:41:50,511
with himself if he was
having a weak day.
504
00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:51,870
Or just feeling lousy.
505
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,130
But I think in terms of people who knew
about it there were very, very few people.
506
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,150
He refused to let the government know
because there were questions in the Houses
507
00:42:02,151 --> 00:42:04,100
of Parliament why Mike
Hawthorne wasn't going
508
00:42:04,101 --> 00:42:06,871
into the army doing
his national service.
509
00:42:07,345 --> 00:42:09,630
And he wouldn't let his
doctors tell them why.
510
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:15,830
He never mentioned his disability but
he certainly suffered from that and I think
511
00:42:15,831 --> 00:42:19,370
there were some days that
he felt it more than others.
512
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,220
It was very exciting
to be around Monaco.
513
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:16,740
We bought that boat and
decided to make that our home.
514
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:23,600
Peter had a nice accident when
his car went into the harbour.
515
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,080
Yeah, that was funny.
516
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,480
I think he did it twice.
517
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,120
Someone said you know your
husband just went into the harbour.
518
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:32,920
I said it's alright he
did that yesterday.
519
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:34,100
He knows how.
520
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,765
Peter and Mike had a lot
of laughs together so when I
521
00:43:43,766 --> 00:43:47,680
came in on the scene the
three of us clicked right away.
522
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:50,840
We just had such
a good funny time.
523
00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:59,780
Peter was I think generally
regarded as a nicer person than Mike.
524
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,099
Mike could be terribly rude,
terribly abrupt but with people
525
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:12,400
he liked and got on with
he was a great, great friend.
526
00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:16,740
Mon Ami Mate was
like a comic strip.
527
00:44:17,170 --> 00:44:20,920
These two characters
go on a trip to Mars.
528
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,138
They look at this
Martian and to be friendly
529
00:44:25,139 --> 00:44:28,460
and saying hello they
said hello Mon Ami Mate.
530
00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,620
It amused Peter
and Mike so much.
531
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,380
That they just kept calling
each other Mon Ami Mate.
532
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,340
You know it was all very nice and Mon
Ami Mate and all that sort of thing but I
533
00:44:46,341 --> 00:44:48,880
don't think it was in the
best interest of Ferrari.
534
00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:55,840
Formula One team owners are pretty
incapable of managing teams when you've
535
00:44:55,841 --> 00:44:58,971
got two very fast racing
drivers alongside one another
536
00:44:58,972 --> 00:45:01,080
and we've seen it through
the history of the sport.
537
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,900
Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn were
basically coming as a package and for the
538
00:45:05,901 --> 00:45:10,920
first time Enzo Ferrari was faced
with this weird situation where if he said
539
00:45:10,921 --> 00:45:13,660
something to Peter it actually
affected Mike Hawthorn and vice versa.
540
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,860
It's sometimes attractive from their
racing you know and they used to be
541
00:45:18,861 --> 00:45:23,660
mucking about you know changing places
instead of concentrating 100% you know and
542
00:45:23,661 --> 00:45:26,963
I think this sense of
competition was sort of slightly
543
00:45:26,964 --> 00:45:30,160
dulled between Mike and
Peter to their detriment.
544
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,278
I mean Roy Salvadori
said to me once God if
545
00:45:35,279 --> 00:45:37,700
I'd been Enzo Ferrari
I'd have fired those two.
546
00:45:38,020 --> 00:45:39,800
They were such close friends.
547
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,780
They were almost happier
when the other won.
548
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:27,860
Enzo always loved it when his drivers
spurred each other on you know and if
549
00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:34,020
there were casualties well you know It's
been suggested that Hawthorne and Collins
550
00:47:34,021 --> 00:47:40,661
ganged up on Luigi Musso, who was really
the last of the great Italian drivers left.
551
00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:55,636
I think you must always wonder,
sort of, what are they saying?
552
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:57,960
I don't understand
what they're saying.
553
00:47:57,961 --> 00:47:59,160
That can't have been easy.
554
00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:11,910
He forged this relationship with Fiamma,
who was a beautiful girl, she really was.
555
00:48:28,270 --> 00:48:32,970
He was really carrying the
weight of Italy on his shoulders.
556
00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:36,090
And driving way
beyond his means.
557
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:47,070
Apart from being the only Italian driver
of consequence in Formula 1, and the only
558
00:48:47,071 --> 00:48:51,790
Italian at Ferrari, he also, by all
accounts, was not a very good businessman.
559
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:58,470
He'd entered into a business deal
to import American cars into Italy.
560
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:03,690
These backers got more and more
concerned about their investment.
561
00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:07,250
And Musso suggested that
he'd run up some gambling debts.
562
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:11,130
He certainly was under some
financial stress at the time.
563
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:22,760
The pressure had been building.
564
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:28,000
The debt that Musso was finding himself
in, the enormous rewards that you could
565
00:49:28,001 --> 00:49:30,720
receive if you won the
French Grand Prix at Reims.
566
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,520
That was a race for Musso
to win, no question about it.
567
00:49:59,980 --> 00:50:04,880
On three or four occasions in the opening
laps, trying to match Hawthorne's pace
568
00:50:04,881 --> 00:50:09,160
through the very fast right-hand
curve immediately after the pits.
569
00:50:09,860 --> 00:50:14,000
He'd put two wheels on the verge and
there'd be a big puff of dust and stones.
570
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:18,080
And some of the photographers would say,
you know, hey, he's on the ragged edge.
571
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:20,860
Because he got
it slightly wrong.
572
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:22,140
He was slightly off-line.
573
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,240
Left rear would have just caught
the marbles and then he went off.
574
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,900
And the car somersaulted
and threw him out.
575
00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:35,880
Luigi didn't make it
to the seventh lap.
576
00:50:35,881 --> 00:50:39,900
I thought his car had had
a problem or had stopped.
577
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:41,940
But no one made a sign.
578
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,880
When there are no
signs, you have to worry.
579
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:53,280
He was thrown out and suffered
a head injury which took his life.
580
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,860
I was young and I
saw the world fall.
581
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,120
I went towards the
window to throw myself out.
582
00:51:05,121 --> 00:51:06,600
They
583
00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:15,060
concur to a sinful event.
584
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,020
It's never just one cause.
585
00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:24,940
It's the concomitance of different reasons
that lead to the sacrifice of a man.
586
00:51:29,170 --> 00:51:32,270
When Luigi Musso
died, Ferrari was upset.
587
00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:37,570
But one way he showed his regret
was to console Musso's girlfriend.
588
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,930
He set her up in a flower shop.
589
00:51:41,590 --> 00:51:43,390
He spent a lot of time with her.
590
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:45,530
They had a long relationship.
591
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,700
A driver should have
confidence in his own ability.
592
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,300
But not to be so naive as to
think it can't happen to me.
593
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,600
If you come round a corner and find oil on
the circuit, you can still spin and go off.
594
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:07,060
You recognise that was
beyond your capabilities.
595
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:10,060
You either accepted that
or you didn't go motor racing.
596
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,380
Nobody's making you motor race.
597
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,360
It was terrible when you
heard that somebody was killed.
598
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:21,900
But after all, it was
his decision to race.
599
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:26,368
They were all aware
in those days that it was
600
00:52:26,369 --> 00:52:30,261
very dangerous and
they still were doing it.
601
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,100
If you ran off the road and there
was a chance of the car overturning,
602
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,914
it was better to be thrown
out than to be trapped in the
603
00:52:39,915 --> 00:52:43,200
cockpit by seatbelts and crushed
underneath it when it landed.
604
00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,367
Or worse, burned to
death by the fire that would
605
00:52:46,368 --> 00:52:50,121
almost inevitably
follow a fuel tank burst.
606
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:57,360
One time, Peter almost said
something and I said, Don't.
607
00:52:57,361 --> 00:53:00,460
We never discussed the
dangers of motor racing.
608
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:04,400
And I think if we had, it would
have compounded the fear.
609
00:53:04,580 --> 00:53:06,680
And the fear, you stuff away.
610
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,240
You don't want to bring that up.
611
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,260
You know, if you get involved
with a racing driver, you
612
00:53:12,261 --> 00:53:14,476
take the risk that something's
probably going to happen.
613
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:15,020
Certainly.
614
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,760
Certainly then, because
it was so dangerous.
615
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:22,520
There was a black humor in motor racing
at that time, you know, to get through.
616
00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:23,700
It was a defense mechanism.
617
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,980
I know that one circuit we
were at, there was an accident.
618
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:30,340
And the driver got
out and walked away.
619
00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:31,700
And the crowds went, oh.
620
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,260
It's an awful thing
to say, but it's true.
621
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:37,400
People go for the excitement.
622
00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:41,780
I was doing time
charts all the time.
623
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,800
That may have helped
keep that fear away.
624
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,500
But I had full confidence
that Peter would never die.
625
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:55,680
It was very easy to ignore any
possibility of things going wrong.
626
00:54:03,250 --> 00:54:08,830
Summer came to Silverstone on Saturday,
July 19th, for the 1958 British Grand
627
00:54:08,831 --> 00:54:12,510
Prix, sixth race of the ten events
counting for the World Championship.
628
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:18,170
The crowds came too, in their tens of
thousands, lining the three-mile circuit
629
00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:21,350
to watch the major event in
the British calendar, a race
630
00:54:21,351 --> 00:54:23,870
made more dramatic by the
fight for championship honors.
631
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:36,300
Peter had decided that because our
marriage, that he would drive the few
632
00:54:36,301 --> 00:54:40,060
races that were left
that year, and then retire.
633
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:52,630
Congratulations, Mike, on Reims.
634
00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:55,390
You don't happen to have a
spare bottle of champagne?
635
00:54:55,391 --> 00:54:57,410
No, I haven't got it yet.
636
00:54:57,710 --> 00:54:59,670
Tell me, what about
the British Grand Prix?
637
00:54:59,970 --> 00:55:03,210
Because we won the last race, people were
saying, well, Ferrari will win this one,
638
00:55:03,350 --> 00:55:05,350
but it's a completely
different type of circuit.
639
00:55:37,310 --> 00:55:40,011
Collins was just absolutely
on it that day, and
640
00:55:40,012 --> 00:55:42,891
he just controlled the
race from start to finish.
641
00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:50,370
And Collins leads Hawthorne by 27 seconds
at a race average of 102.5 miles an hour.
642
00:55:53,110 --> 00:55:56,150
He was supremely quick,
Peter Collins, by then.
643
00:55:56,310 --> 00:56:01,130
And you can't describe his pace any other
way because of what he did at Silverstone.
644
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:12,290
Peter Collins wins after a magnificent
drive, and Mike Hawthorne is second.
645
00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:17,660
Nobody expected him
to win at Silverstone.
646
00:56:17,661 --> 00:56:20,207
He was on the second
row, and he just took
647
00:56:20,208 --> 00:56:22,600
the lead from the start
and won with abandon.
648
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,140
He drove beautifully that day.
649
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,240
You know, it was a
British crowd, home victory.
650
00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:34,181
One golden boy in Peter
Collins had won it, and the other
651
00:56:34,182 --> 00:56:37,500
golden boy, Mike Hawthorne,
had come in in second place.
652
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,720
I mean, what could be better?
653
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:59,347
The two weeks between
the British Grand Prix and
654
00:56:59,348 --> 00:57:02,620
Nürburgring, we had just
put money down on a house.
655
00:57:03,370 --> 00:57:05,640
So we were looking
forward to getting back.
656
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,820
The trouble with poor Mr Ferrari, in
a way, was that he'd suffered the very
657
00:57:14,821 --> 00:57:17,840
real personal tragedy
of losing his son, Dino.
658
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,310
He'd transferred some
of his almost paternal
659
00:57:21,322 --> 00:57:24,240
affection and ambition
to Peter Collins.
660
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,932
The old man just feared
that Collins' focus in
661
00:57:28,933 --> 00:57:32,681
life was not going to be
any more on his racing.
662
00:57:35,770 --> 00:57:37,990
I mean, it was a
wonderful time for us
663
00:57:38,002 --> 00:57:40,691
because we were making
all these future plans.
664
00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:43,410
And Peter asked me not
to come to Nürburgring.
665
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:47,070
He said, we have so much
work to do with this house.
666
00:57:47,410 --> 00:57:49,470
Why don't you just
stay and manage that?
667
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,030
And I said, oh, no, I'm not
going to let you go without me.
668
00:58:08,140 --> 00:58:11,820
When you think of circuits of that time,
of course, there was Spa and it was very
669
00:58:11,821 --> 00:58:15,720
fast, but the Nürburgring
was miles of torture.
670
00:58:17,020 --> 00:58:21,340
There was 180 corners per lap and
you had any corner you liked to name.
671
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,093
The weather could
change dramatically as it
672
00:58:24,094 --> 00:58:27,281
could in the mountains
at any mountain circuit.
673
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,900
It was, I think, the most
challenging circuit we had.
674
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,700
Undulating, narrow,
demanding and unforgiving.
675
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:43,020
The car was airborne a lot and the
drivers, of course, when they're in a
676
00:58:43,021 --> 00:58:45,640
groove, they're doing it from memory,
they're doing it from muscle memory.
677
00:58:45,641 --> 00:58:49,680
But at the end of the day, there's always
the unexpected around the next corner.
678
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,340
And that was probably the
biggest problem of the Nürburgring.
679
00:59:14,170 --> 00:59:17,370
I thought it was just
another race at Nürburgring.
680
00:59:18,130 --> 00:59:22,810
I didn't really
have a lot of fear.
681
00:59:22,811 --> 00:59:25,530
I just had complete
confidence in Peter.
682
01:00:19,370 --> 01:00:23,549
Phil Hill was leading
the Formula 2 class until
683
01:00:23,550 --> 01:00:27,691
his dampers began to
give up and his drum brakes.
684
01:00:28,550 --> 01:00:32,485
And in their Formula 1 cars,
Hawthorne and Collins would
685
01:00:32,486 --> 01:00:35,910
have been experiencing
exactly the same difficulties.
686
01:00:36,250 --> 01:00:39,619
But they're running up at
the sharp end of the race,
687
01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:43,110
going for the lead and
battling with Tony Brooks.
688
01:00:43,610 --> 01:00:46,610
And Tony was the
smoothest of drivers.
689
01:00:47,490 --> 01:00:53,580
And passed Mike, I think, initially
one lap and then he repassed me.
690
01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:59,520
We swapped places on a couple of
laps and then I got back into the race.
691
01:00:59,521 --> 01:00:59,640
And I was in the lead.
692
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:06,760
So as these two ailing Ferraris became
capable of only returning slower and
693
01:01:06,761 --> 01:01:09,909
slower lap times, their
drivers had to drive
694
01:01:09,921 --> 01:01:12,801
more and more
desperately to compensate.
695
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,020
I pulled into the straight and, of
course, the first thing to do was to
696
01:01:19,021 --> 01:01:21,900
look behind and see
where Mike or Peter were.
697
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,240
And I looked behind and there
was no sign of either of them.
698
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,300
I was in the pits with
my timekeeping stuff.
699
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,660
Peter didn't come around again.
700
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,760
And I thought, what's happening?
701
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:45,240
But I focused on that lap chart.
702
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:53,460
Mike's account, following Collins,
was that he saw the car drift off onto the
703
01:01:53,461 --> 01:01:56,116
grass and thought, well, you silly
arse, you've overcooked that one.
704
01:01:56,140 --> 01:01:58,277
And he expected him
to ride up the bank a bit
705
01:01:58,278 --> 01:02:00,600
and then come back off
the grass onto the road.
706
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,660
And he was a bit
concerned about that.
707
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,067
He was concerned
that he might spin across
708
01:02:04,068 --> 01:02:06,440
the road and might,
himself, might hit him.
709
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:12,060
But then, to his horror, the
car reared up on that bank.
710
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,156
And he just got a glimpse
of his great friend Peter
711
01:02:17,176 --> 01:02:19,940
Collins being thrown
out, flying through the air.
712
01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:53,912
Mr Hawthorne, you were
driving just behind Peter
713
01:02:53,913 --> 01:02:56,620
Collins, I think, when
this accident occurred.
714
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,860
Just how did it happen?
715
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,720
Well, um...
716
01:03:00,980 --> 01:03:03,200
There was a little dip
and we went into that.
717
01:03:05,010 --> 01:03:09,820
And there was a sharp right-hander after
that and he took it just a little too wide.
718
01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:11,720
He didn't turn into
it soon enough.
719
01:03:13,610 --> 01:03:17,080
And the car hit the
bank and turned over.
720
01:03:17,830 --> 01:03:20,000
How fast was he
travelling, would you say?
721
01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:21,260
How fast were you?
722
01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:21,860
I don't know.
723
01:03:21,861 --> 01:03:22,861
No, no.
724
01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:40,615
So it wasn't until after the
race that I was told Peter had
725
01:03:40,616 --> 01:03:45,030
an accident and he's being
flown to Bonn to the hospital.
726
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,450
And I said, can I go too?
727
01:03:47,570 --> 01:03:48,570
And they said no.
728
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:56,650
My father, at the United Nations, he
had always been having someone keeping
729
01:03:56,850 --> 01:03:58,610
track of Peter's racing.
730
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:05,450
So this UN man called my father
and said, Peter's been in an accident.
731
01:04:06,090 --> 01:04:08,350
And then my father
pulled a few strings.
732
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:11,750
And then he called the hospital.
733
01:04:12,990 --> 01:04:20,850
And when I got into the hospital,
the first thing that happened was I was
734
01:04:20,851 --> 01:04:25,010
told, oh, you have a phone
call at the reception desk.
735
01:04:25,011 --> 01:04:26,510
And I went there.
736
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:29,470
And my father was on
the phone from New York.
737
01:04:30,090 --> 01:04:32,330
And he told me
that Peter had died.
738
01:04:34,030 --> 01:04:41,170
That just, I thought, was so beautiful
that he would say, I will tell her.
739
01:04:43,350 --> 01:04:45,010
I said, well, I want to see him.
740
01:04:45,970 --> 01:04:48,030
And they took me down.
741
01:04:48,110 --> 01:04:51,190
He was in the basement,
which was cooler, you know.
742
01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:53,270
And I went down there.
743
01:04:53,271 --> 01:05:00,730
And I looked and I saw one foot,
the covering that was over him.
744
01:05:01,350 --> 01:05:04,930
That one foot was out.
745
01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:11,150
And in an instant, I
knew he was dead.
746
01:05:12,260 --> 01:05:13,830
And so that was that.
747
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,770
And we only had
a year and a half.
748
01:05:18,045 --> 01:05:21,050
But it was a great
year and a half.
749
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,130
Michael was desperately upset.
750
01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:04,270
And it was the first
time I ever saw Mike cry.
751
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:09,590
He was beside himself, really,
because he'd lost his great mate.
752
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,350
Could you say a few
words as a friend of his
753
01:06:26,351 --> 01:06:29,120
about Peter Collins as
a man and as a driver?
754
01:06:29,770 --> 01:06:32,280
Well, as a driver, I mean, he
was definitely one of the best.
755
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,440
As a friend.
756
01:06:38,515 --> 01:06:39,515
Well, he was my friend.
757
01:07:00,970 --> 01:07:01,670
He was my friend.
758
01:07:01,671 --> 01:07:03,730
I'd say I've always
had a lot of fear.
759
01:07:04,310 --> 01:07:05,830
Which ones are
the most frequent?
760
01:07:06,590 --> 01:07:07,590
All of them.
761
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:32,910
It's very difficult even now, trying to
comprehend what it would have been like.
762
01:07:34,090 --> 01:07:42,090
How Ferrari got through that period and
emerged is a tribute to Enzo's passion for
763
01:07:42,091 --> 01:07:46,790
motor racing and his ability to
turn the page ...and move onwards.
764
01:07:50,350 --> 01:07:53,778
Once you've been through
as much as he had been
765
01:07:53,779 --> 01:07:56,910
through, he was already
like a person in war.
766
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:59,230
It means losing
drivers and everything.
767
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,650
And he did his best, I
suppose, to act appropriately.
768
01:08:03,450 --> 01:08:06,470
To what degree he really
felt these things is hard to say.
769
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:14,790
When you think of Peter Collins and his
grace, his sportsmanship, and what he did
770
01:08:14,791 --> 01:08:18,222
at Monza in 1956, it's
constantly Peter Collins
771
01:08:18,223 --> 01:08:21,591
doing these wonderfully
humble gestures.
772
01:08:21,860 --> 01:08:26,550
If you look at Luigi Musso and Eugino
Castellotti, they were divided in their
773
01:08:26,551 --> 01:08:31,570
support, but they brought to Formula
One the Italian element of glory.
774
01:08:31,770 --> 01:08:35,170
And that's something that
was very difficult for both drivers.
775
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:38,950
Both drivers crashed and
died under that pressure.
776
01:08:39,345 --> 01:08:43,210
And then there was Alfonso de Portago,
who was basically James Dean on wheels,
777
01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:44,390
was great.
778
01:08:45,390 --> 01:08:50,950
The appeal of the drivers in the 1950s
was that they were all so different and yet
779
01:08:50,951 --> 01:08:55,150
united in this willingness
to take enormous risks.
780
01:08:55,830 --> 01:09:01,591
With each death of the driver, the pressure
mounted on Enzo Ferrari and the team.
781
01:09:02,010 --> 01:09:06,830
Team manager Romolo Tavoni
tells us that Mr Ferrari was devastated.
782
01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:09,905
His initial reaction
was to say, we must
783
01:09:09,917 --> 01:09:12,450
give up Grand Prix
racing, this is too much.
784
01:09:12,530 --> 01:09:16,810
But Hawthorne went to see him
and said, I want to finish the season.
785
01:09:17,150 --> 01:09:20,250
I'll drive another car if I've got
to, but I want to drive a Ferrari.
786
01:09:21,135 --> 01:09:24,150
I think he'd lost the
love of racing, but he was
787
01:09:24,151 --> 01:09:27,191
determined to do it
for Peter's sake, really.
788
01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:37,930
Thereafter, for the rest of the
season, each time they finished a race,
789
01:09:38,230 --> 01:09:41,450
Mike would say, well, that's another
bloody race, I don't have to do again.
790
01:09:42,170 --> 01:09:44,806
But whichever way you
slice it, he was in there
791
01:09:44,807 --> 01:09:46,951
with a chance of the
Drivers' World Championship.
792
01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:51,290
In actual fact, he reckoned that Peter
would have won the World Championship,
793
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,530
and I think that made him upset.
794
01:09:56,450 --> 01:09:59,529
Between the Italian Grand
Prix and the Moroccan
795
01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:03,051
Grand Prix, it was
six very tense weeks.
796
01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:08,430
Everybody used to bug Mike, you
know, every time he went into a pub,
797
01:10:08,570 --> 01:10:11,090
they would say to him,
oh, Mike, it's not long now.
798
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:12,870
So we stayed at home.
799
01:10:14,610 --> 01:10:19,550
The British press were also fired up by
the fact that there was now going to be a
800
01:10:19,551 --> 01:10:23,350
British Formula One World
Champion driver for the very first time.
801
01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:28,110
The Daily Mirror characterised
it as the showdown in the sun.
802
01:10:30,430 --> 01:10:31,870
Michael was very nervous.
803
01:10:32,050 --> 01:10:35,230
He wasn't at all himself,
you know, the sort
804
01:10:35,242 --> 01:10:38,151
of carefree person
that he normally was.
805
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:42,810
Sometimes he really
had to slow down and rest.
806
01:10:42,811 --> 01:10:43,830
And take it easy.
807
01:10:44,650 --> 01:10:50,290
So I was always aware when he felt like
that, that he had to take care of himself.
808
01:10:52,090 --> 01:10:57,490
You know, before a race, I was amazed that
Mike actually came into my room and stayed
809
01:10:57,491 --> 01:11:00,090
with me for the whole night,
which was most unlike Mike.
810
01:11:00,835 --> 01:11:03,110
He just wanted to be
with somebody, I think.
811
01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:04,830
I think he was very nervous.
812
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:24,840
All that Moss had to do to win the World
Championship was to beat Hawthorne,
813
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,072
and hopefully set fastest
lap, which scored an
814
01:11:28,073 --> 01:11:31,460
extra point, with Mike
finishing lower than third.
815
01:12:58,850 --> 01:13:01,637
At the end of the race in
Morocco, Phil Hill had done
816
01:13:01,638 --> 01:13:04,630
the decent thing and handed
second place to Hawthorne.
817
01:13:04,970 --> 01:13:06,710
Moss had done
everything he could do.
818
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:08,490
He'd won, he'd set fastest lap.
819
01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:12,750
But still, when it was all over, Mike
Hawthorne was the World Champion.
820
01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:20,630
Mr Ferrari's reaction to winning the World
Championship after what in so many ways
821
01:13:20,631 --> 01:13:25,850
had been that catastrophic year was
one of immense, overwhelming relief.
822
01:13:26,830 --> 01:13:31,110
Moss ended up one point, just
that solitary point, behind Hawthorne.
823
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:35,670
So Mr Ferrari knew that they'd
shaded it, but hey, a win's a win.
824
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,861
With just a few laps to go,
Stuart Lewis Evans was running
825
01:13:41,961 --> 01:13:44,400
fourth in the van wall, but
suddenly his engine seized.
826
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:45,620
The car caught fire.
827
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,940
By the time the brilliant young Englishman
was out, he was already severely burnt.
828
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,302
That affected Mike,
because he hated drivers
829
01:13:54,303 --> 01:13:57,140
being hurt, and he knew
that Stuart was very ill.
830
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:00,315
He told Enzo after
the race that he wasn't
831
01:14:00,316 --> 01:14:03,461
going to race any more,
and Enzo was furious.
832
01:14:04,705 --> 01:14:06,940
Can you give us any news
of Stuart Lewis Evans?
833
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,020
He's quite badly burnt.
834
01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:12,680
He came back in the aeroplane on
a stretcher, where there's just now.
835
01:14:13,670 --> 01:14:18,260
He was talking and drinking tea,
but he's obviously in quite a lot of pain.
836
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:20,902
So the flight was over,
and the flight home was
837
01:14:20,903 --> 01:14:22,340
bittersweet in the
truest sense of the word.
838
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,736
On the one hand, Mike Hawthorne
had won his world championship.
839
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,320
On the other, there was Stuart Lewis
Evans' terrible agony from these burns.
840
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:31,100
He died a few days
later in London.
841
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,660
You look at footage of Mike
having won the world championship.
842
01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:37,960
He doesn't look to be
happy, but then why would he?
843
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,360
It was a year that in many ways Mike
would have wanted to have forgotten,
844
01:14:42,795 --> 01:14:44,020
and yet he was world champion.
845
01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:53,660
He was a very good world champion,
because he looked good, and he spoke well.
846
01:14:54,175 --> 01:14:56,640
So he wore the
mantle extremely well.
847
01:14:57,700 --> 01:14:59,580
I've had eight years of racing.
848
01:15:00,430 --> 01:15:01,820
In eight years I got to the top.
849
01:15:02,610 --> 01:15:04,900
So I decided now's the time.
850
01:15:05,580 --> 01:15:08,240
Thank you all very, very
much indeed for coming along.
851
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:09,700
Be so patient to listen to me.
852
01:15:10,650 --> 01:15:13,274
And I hope one day
some of you will come
853
01:15:13,286 --> 01:15:16,180
along and join me,
and we'll empty that lot.
854
01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:17,460
Thank you very much.
855
01:15:37,325 --> 01:15:42,710
On the 22nd of January 1959, Mike
had a lunch appointment up in London.
856
01:15:44,190 --> 01:15:45,830
He didn't want to go
to London that day.
857
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:47,030
He wasn't feeling very well.
858
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:50,453
I knew that he was
in a lot of pain, and I'd
859
01:15:50,454 --> 01:15:53,191
seen him on the floor
writhing around in agony.
860
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,570
When I came back to England, my
most urgent thing was to see Mike.
861
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:01,607
We said, okay, we'll
see each other after
862
01:16:01,608 --> 01:16:04,731
that luncheon, and he
would come to my hotel.
863
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:12,230
As he went along the road, Hogsback Road,
he came up behind a Mercedes-Benz 300SL
864
01:16:12,231 --> 01:16:16,210
Gullwing, and he recognized the
driver immediately as Rob Walker.
865
01:16:16,450 --> 01:16:20,970
I saw a Jaguar come up behind
me, and I saw it was Mike Hawthorne,
866
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:25,610
and we both accelerated as hard
as we could alongside each other.
867
01:16:26,450 --> 01:16:30,590
Rob was thinking, oh, you know,
this is all getting a bit much for me,
868
01:16:30,670 --> 01:16:33,310
and I'm not really a racing
driver, though I'm keen.
869
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,200
I was so looking forward to it.
870
01:16:48,220 --> 01:16:48,800
I was seeing him.
871
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:55,621
I wanted very much to have Mike tell me
what it's like to be in a serious accident.
872
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,800
Does your whole life run in
front of you, or what happens?
873
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:37,650
When I walked into the hotel,
the receptionist knew me.
874
01:17:38,805 --> 01:17:40,430
Peter had always
stayed in that hotel.
875
01:17:41,475 --> 01:17:42,890
He was very aware of things.
876
01:17:42,891 --> 01:17:45,270
The receptionist
didn't look at me.
877
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:52,250
And I got into the elevator, up to
whatever floor I was on, went into my
878
01:17:52,251 --> 01:17:58,730
room, and knock on the door,
and it was the manager of the hotel.
879
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:01,750
And he told me
that Mike had died.
880
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,240
And I just... I mean,
it was shattering.
881
01:18:09,380 --> 01:18:10,380
It was shattering.
882
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,640
It was just awful.
883
01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:16,560
Rob managed to get the
back door open, and bent down.
884
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:20,825
And he told me that,
as he looked at Mike,
885
01:18:20,826 --> 01:18:25,841
Mike's eyes glazed, and
there was a gentle gasp.
886
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,160
And that was it.
887
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:51,220
I was up in Yorkshire when I heard
the news, and I just didn't believe it.
888
01:18:53,935 --> 01:18:57,865
But when I did
believe it, I had a lot of
889
01:18:57,885 --> 01:19:02,080
friends in that part of
the world, and they...
890
01:19:03,290 --> 01:19:05,880
I think seemed to remember
going for a long walk on the moors.
891
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,220
I think I heard it on the
television at home, and it was...
892
01:19:15,020 --> 01:19:20,880
you know, it was very, very sad,
and, you know, so unnecessary, really.
893
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,200
But it's easy to say that
with the benefit of hindsight.
894
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:35,660
I think it's that
he had a blackout.
895
01:19:36,370 --> 01:19:38,360
Because he knew
that road backwards.
896
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:39,340
He knew the cars.
897
01:19:39,341 --> 01:19:40,860
He used to race that car.
898
01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:46,660
And that road, it might have been slippery,
but Mike's been in masses of skids.
899
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,571
So I think he had a
blackout, and he didn't
900
01:19:48,572 --> 01:19:51,001
really know anything
about the accident at all.
901
01:19:51,555 --> 01:19:53,275
That's what I think,
and that's what I hope.
902
01:19:59,630 --> 01:20:02,030
Whichever way you look
at it, Mike's life was tragic.
903
01:20:02,210 --> 01:20:07,430
He only got to savour his world
championship for three months,
904
01:20:08,165 --> 01:20:09,405
and then it all just went away.
905
01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:18,190
People who knew him well said
to me, he would not have made 35.
906
01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:22,250
Well, that's true
or not, I don't know.
907
01:20:23,890 --> 01:20:26,510
But the prognosis
wasn't very good.
908
01:20:28,215 --> 01:20:29,990
His last Christmas
was spent in bed.
909
01:20:30,170 --> 01:20:31,210
He wasn't at all well.
910
01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:33,550
I didn't know how ill he was.
911
01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:38,490
His doctor told me later that
he only had a few years to live.
912
01:20:39,890 --> 01:20:44,190
So the way he went, I suppose,
it was the best way for Mike.
913
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:53,570
For someone who's gone, she says in a
not-so-Sibylline way, that then time is in
914
01:20:53,571 --> 01:20:56,570
charge of defining
the ability of all of them.
915
01:20:57,310 --> 01:21:04,470
Because it's not the people who make
the judgments that we have to believe in,
916
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,270
but the time that judges.
917
01:21:06,670 --> 01:21:07,890
And it's inexorable.
918
01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:16,888
If you put a racing driver
in a racing car, he's always
919
01:21:16,889 --> 01:21:19,830
going to take it to the limit
and beyond if necessary.
920
01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:23,570
Um... Ferrari certainly
didn't discourage that.
921
01:21:24,030 --> 01:21:27,290
He wanted drivers
who thought like that.
922
01:21:54,370 --> 01:21:57,001
It was phenomenal with
Castellotti and Musso
923
01:21:57,002 --> 01:21:59,700
and Di Portago and
Collins and Hawthorne.
924
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:00,980
That was an amazing bunch.
925
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,480
An amazing bunch of characters
as well as a bunch of talents.
926
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:09,340
And to lose those drivers, one
after another, it was a terrible thing.
927
01:22:09,460 --> 01:22:10,640
It couldn't happen now.
928
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,420
And it was probably
unique in sporting history.
929
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,420
Well, they were
rather like fighter pilots.
930
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,380
Or gladiators, I suppose.
931
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:20,520
They were...
932
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,400
They were stars.
933
01:22:24,910 --> 01:22:27,660
They would have been the first
out of the trench or over the top.
934
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,240
The first off the landing craft.
935
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,180
These guys were...
936
01:22:35,330 --> 01:22:36,330
They were warriors.
86090
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