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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,620 --> 00:00:13,740 They appreciate life far more than the average man does. 2 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:20,310 A driver usually gets killed on a Sunday. 3 00:00:21,070 --> 00:00:25,550 And if he's a close friend of yours, well, you think, what a stupid sport this 4 00:00:25,551 --> 00:00:27,271 is, and you think seriously of giving it up. 5 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:31,270 But on Monday you think, well, maybe he was just unlucky, maybe I 6 00:00:31,271 --> 00:00:33,330 shouldn't give it up yet, I'll give it up next year. 7 00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:37,450 But on the Tuesday you start thinking about, well, there's a race next Sunday, 8 00:00:37,570 --> 00:00:39,250 maybe I'll go. 9 00:00:39,470 --> 00:00:41,150 So on Wednesday you go to the race. 10 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:47,551 And you think, well, maybe I shouldn't give it up yet, maybe I'll give it up next year. 11 00:00:48,090 --> 00:00:52,510 Enzo Ferrari once said, win or die, you'll be immortal, talking to his drivers. 12 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:58,490 And of course he's right, because every time I go to a Grand Prix, those essences 13 00:00:58,491 --> 00:01:01,450 are part of what makes the sport what it is. 14 00:01:01,550 --> 00:01:03,406 And without drivers like Michael Hawthorne 15 00:01:03,407 --> 00:01:06,591 and Peter Collins, it would be all the poorer. 16 00:01:08,830 --> 00:01:14,450 The Ferrari name is very important to Formula One today because it's a symbol of 17 00:01:14,451 --> 00:01:18,790 the history of the sport that was once the most dangerous sport on earth and still 18 00:01:18,791 --> 00:01:21,830 trades on those associations of risk and glamour. 19 00:01:21,990 --> 00:01:24,282 We think these guys must be daredevils 20 00:01:24,294 --> 00:01:27,071 because Collins and Hawthorne were daredevils. 21 00:01:29,410 --> 00:01:34,710 I look back on it now and I just perceive them, the drivers of the time, 22 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:36,910 as an entirely different breed. 23 00:01:40,810 --> 00:01:45,810 Controlling this powerful beast under your rear, balancing this car on this tightrope 24 00:01:45,811 --> 00:01:48,110 and taking the best line through the corner. 25 00:01:48,350 --> 00:01:50,490 This gave you a sense of ecstasy. 26 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,860 It was an era of great glamour and great risk. 27 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:02,619 These men went out to drive these red cars not 28 00:02:02,620 --> 00:02:05,921 knowing whether they would come back alive. 29 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:12,300 Michael Hawthorne described how we as young men were all willing to jump into 30 00:02:12,301 --> 00:02:17,260 the cooking pot under which Mr Ferrari kept the fire stoked. 31 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,340 When it came to running drivers, Ferrari's approach was the more pressure 32 00:02:23,341 --> 00:02:26,760 you put on them and the more unsettled they feel the faster they will go. 33 00:02:28,340 --> 00:02:34,740 These guys were experiencing the buzz of competition in cars but they were 34 00:02:34,741 --> 00:02:39,080 subjecting themselves willingly to all the attached dangers. 35 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:12,900 There's something about the motor racing world that, as far as we were concerned, 36 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,984 when catastrophes would happen, we would kind 37 00:03:16,985 --> 00:03:20,241 of just carry on and not let it get us down. 38 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:24,080 And I think that was the attitude of a lot of people then. 39 00:03:33,020 --> 00:03:36,800 Fear is really a lack of understanding of what is happening. 40 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,214 Like when you're a child, you're frightened of the 41 00:03:38,215 --> 00:03:39,620 dark because you don't understand what's there. 42 00:03:39,820 --> 00:03:43,000 I am not normally afraid of killing myself. 43 00:03:43,180 --> 00:03:46,780 I am frightened of being killed by something over which I have no control. 44 00:03:57,310 --> 00:04:02,590 The great thing about Mike Hawthorne and Peter Collins is that they would do what a 45 00:04:02,591 --> 00:04:05,490 land speed record breaker, John Cobb, described. 46 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:09,855 He said it's pretty much akin to seeing how far you 47 00:04:09,856 --> 00:04:13,150 can lean out of the window before you finally fall out. 48 00:04:14,330 --> 00:04:17,950 And that's what those boys with Ferrari did in the 1950s. 49 00:04:18,850 --> 00:04:23,570 They willingly leant out of the window as far as they possibly could. 50 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:29,310 And a few of them, and in retrospect far too many, fell out. 51 00:04:52,425 --> 00:04:54,400 At ten years old, you attend the first race. 52 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,640 How do you see that moment? 53 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,886 How did you experience it? 54 00:04:56,910 --> 00:05:02,017 With the tremor of a boy who wanted to be able to 55 00:05:02,018 --> 00:05:05,461 present himself in the same conditions one day. 56 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:09,580 Ferrari had a difficult early life. 57 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,820 His father died when he was quite young and then his only brother also died, 58 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:20,280 leaving him more or less alone when he was still in his teens. 59 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:23,200 But he was very keen on cars. 60 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,633 So when he had to make his own way in the world, cars 61 00:05:27,634 --> 00:05:32,000 and motor racing were the things that attracted him most. 62 00:05:33,540 --> 00:05:36,260 What has played more in his history? 63 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,340 Passion or the desire to assert himself? 64 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,540 It was mainly passion. 65 00:05:44,540 --> 00:05:46,580 What do you feel before the road? 66 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:47,880 Anxiety? 67 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:48,980 Fear? 68 00:05:50,820 --> 00:05:55,797 Before the road, you feel a sum of sensations 69 00:05:55,809 --> 00:05:59,821 that disappear as the road is given. 70 00:06:22,990 --> 00:06:23,990 The moment you go FH. 71 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:43,480 Toss and A sick driving experience? 72 00:06:43,481 --> 00:06:47,740 Enzo Ferrari was a great talent scout, and after the war, although there were 73 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:51,300 many good young Italian drivers, he spotted that there was a bunch of 74 00:06:51,301 --> 00:06:54,020 English drivers who were singer to do very well. 75 00:06:54,021 --> 00:06:55,021 Well, indeed. 76 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,300 Hawthorne and Collins had some years between them. 77 00:06:59,380 --> 00:07:01,380 Mike was the older by two or three years. 78 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:07,460 He really made his name in the little Riley that was prepared by his father. 79 00:07:08,830 --> 00:07:11,363 Every time they went to a race meeting, here was a 80 00:07:11,364 --> 00:07:14,020 young man who expected to come away with a trophy. 81 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:22,120 Peter, when he started racing with a 500cc Cooper that his father, Pat, bought for 82 00:07:22,121 --> 00:07:26,880 him, he was immediately quick and he was only 17 years old. 83 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:33,340 Hawthorne and Collins met as rivals on the racetrack, but eventually, when they both 84 00:07:33,341 --> 00:07:37,500 found themselves in Modena driving for Ferrari, they became enormous friends. 85 00:07:47,770 --> 00:07:53,230 Mike was a sort of a sports-jacketed, beer-drinking one of the lads. 86 00:07:53,510 --> 00:08:00,250 Never know how much I love you Never know how much I care He and Peter Collins were 87 00:08:00,251 --> 00:08:03,030 like a pair of rather irresponsible schoolboys. 88 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:05,270 Tremendously fun-loving. 89 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:08,690 Peter was a life-enhancer. 90 00:08:08,850 --> 00:08:12,011 When he came into the room, things got jollier, 91 00:08:12,012 --> 00:08:14,891 noisier and altogether more entertaining. 92 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:20,474 When I first met Mike, he was tall, good-looking, 93 00:08:20,534 --> 00:08:22,850 and I thought, ooh, that's a lovely-looking man. 94 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:25,390 So I set my heart on him. 95 00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:31,910 He was a great character and a very flash sort of guy who was a lot of fun. 96 00:08:32,290 --> 00:08:35,430 I think he used motor racing as a stepping stone to 97 00:08:35,431 --> 00:08:38,411 enjoyment of life, whereas to me it was the life. 98 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:42,170 You were either Hawthorne fan or Moss fan, you couldn't really be both. 99 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:51,200 Peter in particular, I think, was very much a boy's own 100 00:08:51,201 --> 00:08:54,670 character of what an exciting racing driver should be. 101 00:08:54,990 --> 00:08:58,510 The girls loved him and I didn't see too great an effort on his part. 102 00:08:58,610 --> 00:09:00,530 I think he was the one who had to fight them off. 103 00:09:01,010 --> 00:09:03,930 Mr Ferrari had always had a soft spot for the Brits. 104 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,810 Mike went there and the old man was pretty impressed because here was somebody who 105 00:09:08,811 --> 00:09:12,690 was prepared to put it on the line and that was the sort of thrusting, 106 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:16,370 aggressive, young driver that Mr Ferrari really rated. 107 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:24,771 When I was with Mike, he just stood out amongst the others as being very beautiful. 108 00:09:26,850 --> 00:09:33,430 We were intoxicated by the atmosphere of these wonderful, wild men. 109 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:37,290 It was fun, it was like a big family. 110 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:40,030 Everybody knew everybody, but it was dangerous. 111 00:09:40,450 --> 00:09:43,470 And wherever you get danger, you get this thrill. 112 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Hawthorne did very well in his first spell with Ferrari. 113 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:38,460 He won a couple of races. 114 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,925 But then when his father died, and he wanted to drive 115 00:10:41,926 --> 00:10:44,880 sports cars for Jaguar, he went back to England. 116 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,980 And I think Ferrari was very disappointed by that. 117 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,540 I'm sure he wanted to hang on to him. 118 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:56,170 I think for most of the Grand Prix drivers, Le Mans was a bit of a bore 119 00:10:56,171 --> 00:11:00,190 because it was a test of the car, but not the driver. 120 00:11:00,490 --> 00:11:05,450 And I think that Mike and Fangio got involved in what had become a Grand Prix, 121 00:11:05,530 --> 00:11:08,790 more or less, at the beginning of the race, taking the boredom out of it. 122 00:11:09,010 --> 00:11:12,290 Drivers are requested to get to... the places assigned to them. 123 00:11:13,930 --> 00:11:14,950 Stand by. 124 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:23,510 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. 125 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,860 Lap after lap, Hawthorne 126 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,660 trawled with an exhibition of driving skill no words can adequately describe. 127 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:11,440 This battle royal that's been raging in those opening laps really reached a climax 128 00:12:11,441 --> 00:12:15,160 that was just more cataclysmic than anybody could possibly imagine. 129 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,530 Everything went normally in practice, and I was 130 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:22,801 given the job of starting doing the first spell. 131 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,780 And I was actually out on the circuit when this dreadful accident happened. 132 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:33,680 Coming out of the White House bends and up 133 00:12:33,681 --> 00:12:33,680 towards the pits, Mike saw the idea of driving. 134 00:12:33,681 --> 00:12:38,549 He had the opportunity to lap one more car before he pulled 135 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:42,760 across to the right and braked for his scheduled pit stop. 136 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:48,360 That one last car was the works Austin Healey, driven by Lance Macklin. 137 00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:52,964 Trouble was, that race was the first time the new rule had 138 00:12:52,965 --> 00:12:55,780 come in where you had to change the driver every two hours. 139 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:59,600 So Mike knew that another lap would have taken him over the two hours. 140 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:03,660 In braking hard, Lance Macklin pulled out... 141 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:07,800 very sharply to the left to avoid the back of Mike's Jaguar. 142 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,731 And then suddenly there was an almighty bang and 143 00:13:11,732 --> 00:13:14,120 Levesque's car came sort of right over the top of me. 144 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,359 His wheel came right past my left ear and I could 145 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,521 feel the heat of his exhaust as he went by so close. 146 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:39,270 Levesque ran up the sloping tail of the Austin Healey, flew the best part of 100 147 00:13:39,271 --> 00:13:44,235 yards completely airborne, and then crashed belly first 148 00:13:44,236 --> 00:13:47,730 onto the top edge of the safety bank in front of him. 149 00:13:48,530 --> 00:13:52,551 Approaching the pits I saw a blue flag out so I eased 150 00:13:52,552 --> 00:13:55,770 off and of course then I came across this absolute chaos. 151 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:15,330 When Levesque's Mercedes hit the top edge of the bank, the chassis sheared and the 152 00:14:15,331 --> 00:14:18,642 entire front end assembly was hurled through the 153 00:14:18,643 --> 00:14:20,990 crowd and it went through the crowd like this. 154 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:22,010 Like a torpedo. 155 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:26,510 And it killed over 80 of them and it injured over 100 more. 156 00:14:27,470 --> 00:14:33,050 There were even children in the front row who'd been put there for the best view and 157 00:14:33,051 --> 00:14:36,470 they were right in the firing line of the wreckage that tore through them. 158 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,280 What most people didn't realise was that it was on such a grand scale and why the 159 00:14:44,281 --> 00:14:47,526 organisers had decided to continue the race was to enable 160 00:14:47,527 --> 00:14:51,780 them to get the emergency vehicles away from the circuit. 161 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,760 I hadn't seen anything with the accident as such because where I ended up was about 162 00:14:58,761 --> 00:15:00,921 two or three hundred yards from where the accident was. 163 00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:04,144 I could see the car burning on the side of the track 164 00:15:04,145 --> 00:15:06,901 but at least I thought it didn't go in the crowd. 165 00:15:08,780 --> 00:15:14,160 I went into the Austin Healey pit and Donald Healey told me that Mike had come 166 00:15:14,161 --> 00:15:17,320 in and said to Lance, can you ever forgive me? 167 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,220 He literally sort of staggered across to where we were, tears pouring down his face. 168 00:15:23,340 --> 00:15:26,200 He came up to me and put his arm over my shoulder and he said, I've killed all 169 00:15:26,201 --> 00:15:28,440 these people, I'll never race again and so on. 170 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:31,170 A few hours later he was back in the car and driving again. 171 00:15:46,050 --> 00:15:51,410 Hawthorne and Bueb drove a brilliant remaining part of the race to win. 172 00:15:52,930 --> 00:15:56,837 And contemporary movie shows Mike very conflicted in his 173 00:15:56,838 --> 00:16:00,770 facial expressions about whether to enjoy this victory or not. 174 00:16:00,771 --> 00:16:07,610 But when he did break into a grin, stills photographers got that photograph 175 00:16:07,611 --> 00:16:13,630 and photographs of a beaming Mike Hawthorne having just won at Le Mans after 176 00:16:13,631 --> 00:16:18,012 the colossal tragedy that had marred the race were 177 00:16:18,013 --> 00:16:21,910 used by the press to vilify Mike around the world. 178 00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:26,310 It did affect him terribly. 179 00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:30,130 He was desperately upset but it wasn't actually his fault. 180 00:16:30,770 --> 00:16:33,910 I mean, he was exonerated and he shouldn't have to feel like that. 181 00:16:34,635 --> 00:16:40,170 He had this sort of air of, um, Delmay care, you know, attitude. 182 00:16:40,650 --> 00:16:43,170 But actually he did care, he cared an awful lot. 183 00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:31,440 He didn't care, he didn't care. 184 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:33,020 He didn't care, he didn't care. 185 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,520 He didn't care, he didn't care. 186 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,220 Ferrari in Italy was a towering figure, even at the time. 187 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:47,561 It's the single most significant automotive industry figure of the 20th century. 188 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,160 He was a survivor. 189 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,160 He was a chameleon. 190 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,700 Such a manipulator of men. 191 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,700 He regarded it as a sport in its own right, I think. 192 00:17:57,780 --> 00:17:59,500 The Scuderia was a stable. 193 00:18:00,020 --> 00:18:04,020 Effectively, in which Ferrari would pick the best talent that he could find. 194 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,364 The drivers were the public face of the Scuderia and he 195 00:18:07,365 --> 00:18:10,200 would take the cream of the talent that was available to him. 196 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,180 Eugenio Castellotti came from a little town called Lodi. 197 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,060 He got into racing because it was a big macho deal. 198 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,660 It was what the king of the kids would do. 199 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,760 Hey, look at me. 200 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:26,440 And he did have a talent. 201 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:28,500 He had a shining talent, in fact. 202 00:18:30,625 --> 00:18:31,625 Musso was from Rome. 203 00:18:31,780 --> 00:18:33,980 He was an Elio De Angelis at the time. 204 00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:37,300 Whereas Castellotti was a street fighter from northern Italy. 205 00:18:39,450 --> 00:18:44,060 Luigi Musso was a charismatic Italian racing driver of the first order. 206 00:18:44,455 --> 00:18:45,540 Let's not mince words here. 207 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,600 The guy was very good. 208 00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:51,980 I think while Castellotti and Musso were at Ferrari together, there was a certain 209 00:18:51,981 --> 00:18:54,620 amount of shared responsibility, if you like. 210 00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:59,489 You've got two drivers there who brought Italy into Grand Prix racing in a way that. 211 00:18:59,845 --> 00:19:01,160 is unimaginable now. 212 00:19:01,650 --> 00:19:03,780 Because the whole country was behind them. 213 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,980 And both of them gave it 100%. 214 00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:14,520 Fonda Portago was a nobleman and a sportsman of every possible variety. 215 00:19:15,335 --> 00:19:18,080 And he was a very attractive personality. 216 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:19,800 He was a real playboy. 217 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:23,400 But he was a playboy who didn't mind getting his hands dirty. 218 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,960 He's a man devoted to sport. 219 00:19:28,890 --> 00:19:33,900 Whether it be skiing, bobsleighing, water skiing, swimming, fishing, 220 00:19:34,180 --> 00:19:35,840 hunting, whatever it might be. 221 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:40,774 He was in some ways, you know, the sort of most 222 00:19:40,775 --> 00:19:43,800 natural Ferrari driver of the whole of the 1950s. 223 00:19:43,801 --> 00:19:47,220 You know, if you had to design a Ferrari driver, it would have been Fonda Portago. 224 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,140 And he had the girlfriends to go with it too. 225 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,860 The Scuderia was led by Juan Manuel Fangio. 226 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:57,860 And Castellotti apparently would hang on Fangio's every word. 227 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:02,520 Fangio to me is the best driver in the world, bar none. 228 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,580 He was a great man. 229 00:20:04,820 --> 00:20:07,980 He was a man that whatever he could do once, he could continue to do. 230 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,880 And it was a beautiful balance in the rhythm of a man and the vehicle. 231 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,340 Enzo Ferrari was once asked, when a car crosses the line to take the chequered 232 00:20:18,341 --> 00:20:20,480 flag, how much of it is car, how much of it is driver? 233 00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:23,440 And he said, 60% car, 40% driver. 234 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,060 The sad thing was that Ferrari didn't spend enough time learning how to deal 235 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:31,320 with the drivers, individual to individual. 236 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,140 You know, every driver has a different style of his own. 237 00:20:36,050 --> 00:20:39,760 Horson had an expression of a man who's fighting on his face. 238 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,720 Peter Collins is always making faces at the crowds. 239 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:46,734 Not deliberately, but I've got to see a picture of 240 00:20:46,735 --> 00:20:49,280 Peter in which he is making some kind of a face. 241 00:20:52,490 --> 00:20:59,471 Peter Collins had been driving for BRM, and then he was offered a drive with Ferrari. 242 00:20:59,630 --> 00:21:00,930 Which would have been fantastic. 243 00:21:01,850 --> 00:21:03,350 What an amazing opportunity. 244 00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:09,770 Ferrari set himself up as the spider in the middle of this extraordinary web, 245 00:21:09,890 --> 00:21:12,110 and he ensured that everybody had to come to him. 246 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:13,190 He never went to them. 247 00:21:14,450 --> 00:21:17,830 There is a story that Peter Collins, when he went there to sign up, 248 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:20,710 he thought, oh, you know, this is going to be a big deal. 249 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:25,270 And in fact, Peter was kept waiting and waiting and waiting. 250 00:21:25,730 --> 00:21:29,610 And he was on the point of giving it all up as a bad job, when ultimately, 251 00:21:29,730 --> 00:21:31,650 Mr Ferrari came sailing in. 252 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,070 And everything was sweetness and light. 253 00:21:48,430 --> 00:21:51,870 It was a sparkling honeymoon for Peter Collins at Ferrari. 254 00:21:52,090 --> 00:21:55,150 He won in Formula One, he won in other categories. 255 00:21:55,570 --> 00:21:58,230 Ferrari immediately recognised his versatility. 256 00:21:58,231 --> 00:22:02,590 And overnight, almost, Peter Collins became a star, not only in Italy, 257 00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:04,850 at Ferrari, but also on the world racing stage. 258 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:15,672 And victory goes to Britain's Peter Collins and 259 00:22:15,673 --> 00:22:18,070 Mike Hawthorne, with one second and one zero. 260 00:22:18,071 --> 00:22:20,770 So Peter Collins wins his first Grand Prix for Scuderia Ferrari. 261 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:23,480 Peter Collins joins that exclusive band of 262 00:22:23,481 --> 00:22:25,450 British drivers who have won a Grande Prix. 263 00:22:25,451 --> 00:22:26,451 It's incredible. 264 00:22:30,820 --> 00:22:36,060 There's no doubt that Peter Collins was one of the drivers that Enzo Ferrari loved. 265 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,619 He felt a real warmth to him, which he didn't 266 00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:41,861 feel towards all his drivers by any means. 267 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:48,251 Peter Collins became very friendly and very close 268 00:22:48,271 --> 00:22:51,900 with Dino, Mr Ferrari's, sadly, terminally ill son. 269 00:22:54,820 --> 00:22:58,353 My husband did a wonderful job, in a way, of helping 270 00:22:58,354 --> 00:23:02,200 to communicate between the dying son and Enzo. 271 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:08,163 Ferrari was very moved by that, that Collins 272 00:23:08,175 --> 00:23:11,101 should show such concern for his son. 273 00:23:11,275 --> 00:23:13,640 And Dino's death, of course, was a... 274 00:23:14,090 --> 00:23:17,120 It was a shattering blow to him and to his wife. 275 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,620 And I think that brought him closer to Collins. 276 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:34,470 By the end of the 1956 season, Collins has won the Belgian Grand Prix. 277 00:23:34,610 --> 00:23:36,030 He's won the French Grand Prix. 278 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:40,110 He's in with a shout of becoming the first British 279 00:23:40,111 --> 00:23:42,950 driver ever to win the FIA Drivers' World Championship. 280 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,520 There were five Lancia Ferraris in the race. 281 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:55,280 There was Fangio, Portago and Collins, but also Castellotti and Musso. 282 00:23:55,281 --> 00:23:57,180 And a fierce, fierce rivalry. 283 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:16,350 As you might guess, as soon as the Italian Grand Prix started, Castellotti and also 284 00:24:16,351 --> 00:24:21,011 Luigi Musso went for it, you know, as if the race was starting on the last lap. 285 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:32,950 Fangio's car broke down. 286 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:35,320 And in those days, you could share a car 287 00:24:35,332 --> 00:24:37,770 with another driver and get half the points. 288 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:40,612 Musso came in and it was suggested to him he 289 00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,610 should get out and give the car to Fangio. 290 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:44,610 And Musso had no interest in that at all. 291 00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:48,990 And that was when Collins, of course, did his famous selfless act. 292 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:52,290 Collins is poised to win the World Championship. 293 00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:57,890 He comes into the pits for his last pit stop, beckoned to Fangio and said, 294 00:24:58,090 --> 00:25:01,181 you take my car and I'll give up my chance 295 00:25:01,182 --> 00:25:04,551 for you to win yet another World Championship. 296 00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:11,750 I can't actually think of another driver, apart from Peter, to do that. 297 00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:13,575 Because all Peter had to do was keep going and 298 00:25:13,576 --> 00:25:16,231 he was going to be the man who would take it. 299 00:25:17,790 --> 00:25:21,560 He respected the superiority of Fangio as a driver and I think 300 00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:24,990 he felt it would be unfair of him not to provide the car. 301 00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:28,418 It was a very chivalrous and respectful 302 00:25:28,419 --> 00:25:32,711 gesture, which Enzo Ferrari appreciated a lot. 303 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,120 Talking to the press afterwards, Peter apparently said, I'm young, 304 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,620 I'll get another chance. 305 00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:38,780 I 306 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:45,548 was in a play at Coconut Girl Playhouse in Florida and 307 00:26:45,549 --> 00:26:50,380 Peter was on his way from Argentina back to England. 308 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:59,000 The sky's above the blue The West Indies, Cuba, all of Latin America are just beyond 309 00:26:59,001 --> 00:27:01,260 the horizon when you make Miami your headquarters. 310 00:27:04,340 --> 00:27:10,502 My heart was wrapped up in clover Oh, and then the spell was 311 00:27:10,503 --> 00:27:16,240 cast Sterling Moss actually told Peter that I was in Florida. 312 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:19,600 And so if he was going through there, why not say hello? 313 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:28,501 So he gave me a ring and Monday night after the play we got together and that was it. 314 00:27:28,790 --> 00:27:30,400 Wednesday he asked me to marry him. 315 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,780 Friday my father came down from New York to stop this whole nonsense. 316 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,900 He was with the United Nations, a very dignified human being. 317 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:44,027 He was a little unhappy thinking that his daughter was 318 00:27:44,028 --> 00:27:47,220 going to marry a racing driver that she didn't even know. 319 00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:50,650 And so it worked out very beautifully. 320 00:27:58,390 --> 00:28:01,070 When did the decline of an out-of-class start? 321 00:28:01,270 --> 00:28:06,250 The day that sets off extra-sportive interests. 322 00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:14,390 Enzo Ferrari didn't like his drivers getting tied down because he didn't like 323 00:28:14,391 --> 00:28:18,730 the idea that they had something else to live for besides driving his racing cars. 324 00:28:18,970 --> 00:28:22,050 That would take the edge off their speed. 325 00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:27,129 I think he loved the cars more than the drivers because the 326 00:28:27,130 --> 00:28:30,330 cars were loyal to him and the drivers very often weren't. 327 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:36,710 Mr Ferrari always maintained that his team number one would be the driver who 328 00:28:36,711 --> 00:28:41,290 performed best last Sunday, which tended to keep them on their toes. 329 00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:48,070 By setting them to some extent in competition with each other, by very often 330 00:28:48,071 --> 00:28:51,843 having five drivers for four cars, it would ensure that they 331 00:28:51,844 --> 00:28:55,350 were performing at their maximum the whole time for him. 332 00:28:55,790 --> 00:28:59,510 I think there would have been quite a lot of culture shock for Mike Hawthorne and 333 00:28:59,511 --> 00:29:03,270 Peter Collins going into the Scuderia Ferrari where they would have been 334 00:29:03,271 --> 00:29:06,070 surrounded by very competitive Playboy drivers. 335 00:29:06,650 --> 00:29:12,010 I had dinner with Ferrari and we were talking about racing as we usually do and 336 00:29:12,011 --> 00:29:14,857 all of a sudden he said, but you know the drivers will 337 00:29:14,858 --> 00:29:18,310 always go to the factory which produces the fastest cars. 338 00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:23,190 And I was just about to protest my love to Ferrari when I realised that I would go 339 00:29:23,191 --> 00:29:25,110 somewhere else if they produced a faster car. 340 00:29:25,470 --> 00:29:27,830 There's no loyalty to the factory. 341 00:29:29,970 --> 00:29:36,311 There was a coloured, embittered relationship between Fangio and Mr Ferrari. 342 00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:41,230 And so when Fangio left Ferrari at the end of that World Championship winning season 343 00:29:41,231 --> 00:29:47,810 to go to the rival Maserati team, the only person surprised was Mr Ferrari. 344 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:58,380 When Mike Hawthorne rejoined the Ferrari team at the start of 1957, they had 345 00:29:58,820 --> 00:30:06,820 Collins, Musso, the Spanish Marquis von de Portago and they had Castellotti. 346 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:08,880 It was an incredibly strong team. 347 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,540 One thing that I've always loved about Castellotti was how neat and precise he 348 00:30:15,541 --> 00:30:17,441 was in his everyday life and that's always a 349 00:30:17,442 --> 00:30:19,540 good sign I think to how you are in a racing car. 350 00:30:19,541 --> 00:30:24,020 And you look at the way he used to pack his racing suitcase with all his race kit. 351 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,400 Everything was immaculate. 352 00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:26,820 Everything was perfectly organised. 353 00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:29,900 And I think that showed another side to Castellotti. 354 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,116 He wasn't just a crazy Italian. 355 00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:32,680 This guy was good. 356 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,354 Castellotti started racing effectively with the 357 00:30:36,355 --> 00:30:38,160 Ferrari sports car that his mother bought him. 358 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,660 He grew up as a gilded child really. 359 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,260 He's another immature fellow that puts a lot of money in and suddenly decided that 360 00:30:47,261 --> 00:30:49,520 he was going to do what most wealthy Italians wish they could do. 361 00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:51,180 And that's be a rear racing driver. 362 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:53,840 And he's pretty good, but he's not all that good. 363 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,336 You claim that the drivers are divided into two categories 364 00:30:58,337 --> 00:31:00,801 the professionals and the ambitious, that is, the amateurs. 365 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,760 Undoubtedly. 366 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,721 You said that it's not true that Italians race less than 367 00:31:06,722 --> 00:31:09,581 foreigners and yet those who win are almost always foreigners. 368 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:13,382 Evidently Italians have not had the 369 00:31:13,394 --> 00:31:17,041 technical possibilities that foreigners have. 370 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,860 Everybody in Italy was mad about racing. 371 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,112 Even if there was no television but there was 372 00:31:27,113 --> 00:31:30,341 a radio they were following what was happening. 373 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,960 I think being an Italian driving in Italy and obviously having to prove yourself 374 00:31:36,961 --> 00:31:39,457 constantly against drivers like Collins, 375 00:31:39,469 --> 00:31:42,221 Hawthorne and Moss was very, very difficult. 376 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,880 In March 1957 Castellotti was called to do some testing for Ferrari. 377 00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:53,720 At the Modena test track. 378 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:57,956 I mean it sounds ludicrous in a way that Modena was 379 00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,740 the test track that both Ferrari and Maserati used. 380 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,420 And why it should have been so desperately important who actually held the unofficial 381 00:32:06,421 --> 00:32:10,540 lap record at any given time it's quite difficult to fathom now. 382 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,260 But for whatever reason it was very important particularly to Enzo Ferrari. 383 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160 Maserati had just broken the lap record there. 384 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Mr Ferrari wasn't happy with that. 385 00:32:21,881 --> 00:32:24,140 He wanted Ferrari to hold the lap record there. 386 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,064 And either spoken or tacitly Castellotti was expected to 387 00:32:30,065 --> 00:32:33,640 go out and break the lap record in the developing new car. 388 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,780 Castellotti was summoned back from Florence and it wasn't a request, 389 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,040 it was a demand. 390 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,329 And much against his will he came back to Milan and went 391 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:49,960 out to Modena got in the car late afternoon and was killed. 392 00:32:53,420 --> 00:33:00,140 He either suffered a brake failure or the throttle stuck open and the Ferrari rode 393 00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:08,220 over the kerbs flew into the air and began to roll and it went into a little concrete 394 00:33:08,221 --> 00:33:12,760 built grandstand and it ended up in the top row at the back of the grandstand. 395 00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:18,606 And Castellotti very sadly had been thrown out of the 396 00:33:18,607 --> 00:33:21,720 car and he was rushed to hospital and it was too late. 397 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,900 There was no saving him. 398 00:33:29,170 --> 00:33:34,190 The thing that troubles us is when somebody gets killed because the steering 399 00:33:34,191 --> 00:33:39,490 arm broke or because the wheel came off and that worries us a lot because then we 400 00:33:39,491 --> 00:33:41,693 think what if it happened on that car and I have to drive 401 00:33:41,694 --> 00:33:43,771 the same type of car it could very well happen to me. 402 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,100 I don't think Ferrari really was capable of having relationships. 403 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:10,600 I think he was a guy that was just driven to do what he had to do in motor racing. 404 00:34:10,601 --> 00:34:15,400 And that was build cars that were capable of winning and to find drivers that were 405 00:34:15,401 --> 00:34:18,100 capable of driving them and what happened, happened. 406 00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:23,800 Collins was in the office with Enzo Ferrari when the phone rang. 407 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:27,400 It was with the news that Castellotti had been killed. 408 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,080 The old man said, oh no, no, Castellotti, molto. 409 00:34:32,475 --> 00:34:34,340 And then, e la macchina? 410 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,420 And how's the car? 411 00:34:42,070 --> 00:34:44,150 Ferrari, the most frequent accusation, is a dictator. 412 00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:45,570 What do you think? 413 00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:54,070 If a dictator is to claim from others the deepest commitment of my work, 414 00:34:55,670 --> 00:34:56,670 evidently they are right. 415 00:34:58,670 --> 00:35:03,150 Ferrari was a man I admired in some ways and thought he was appalling in others. 416 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:06,090 I think success is important for Ferrari. 417 00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:09,450 But success because it showed that he was one better than the other guy. 418 00:35:10,750 --> 00:35:13,230 Ultimately, it was about Ferrari. 419 00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:16,497 And Ferrari have been around now in some form 420 00:35:16,498 --> 00:35:19,631 or another since the turn of the century almost. 421 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:24,590 And the reason Ferrari is the biggest brand in the world today, bigger than 422 00:35:24,591 --> 00:35:28,970 Formula One in motor racing terms, and the reason people think about Ferrari 423 00:35:28,971 --> 00:35:33,170 the way they do is because it ultimately is about the car and not the driver. 424 00:35:35,590 --> 00:35:40,126 Mr Ferrari became absolutely well aware very early 425 00:35:40,127 --> 00:35:43,910 on that his, his favoured sport was a killer. 426 00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:11,490 What kind of a guy is Ferrari? 427 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,530 Well, Ferrari is a dictator. 428 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:16,470 If he doesn't like you he won't sell you a car. 429 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:19,210 But as far as I'm concerned he's a wonderful guy. 430 00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:26,110 Why do you race? 431 00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:28,670 Because I want to be champion in the world. 432 00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:31,950 Life to me is a wonderful thing. 433 00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:37,350 And even if I live to be a hundred I still won't be able to do a twentieth of all the 434 00:36:37,351 --> 00:36:40,110 things I want to do and read all the books I want to read. 435 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:41,470 And I plan to get a hundred. 436 00:36:41,471 --> 00:36:43,831 I want to get the most out of it but I have no time to lose. 437 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:52,290 Von Portago I knew quite well because I saw him I was living in France at the time 438 00:36:52,291 --> 00:36:55,150 and he was one of the people one saw regularly in Paris. 439 00:36:55,610 --> 00:36:57,350 He could do anything, Portago. 440 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:59,190 He liked doing dangerous things. 441 00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:05,289 Everybody, no matter how wealthy they are who 442 00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:08,591 drives aims to become a professional driver. 443 00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:11,010 All you must have is respect for the car. 444 00:37:11,130 --> 00:37:13,410 I have enormous respect for the Grand Prix Ferrari. 445 00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:18,630 And I realize that if I treat it badly it can very easily kill me. 446 00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:22,950 Every driver believes it can never happen to him. 447 00:37:23,050 --> 00:37:24,730 I know that it won't happen to me. 448 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:26,950 Inside me I know it won't happen to me. 449 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,389 The Mille Miglia was a thousand mile race around Italy on 450 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:48,120 normal roads with millions of spectators lining the roads. 451 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,660 And it was incredibly dangerous. 452 00:37:57,180 --> 00:38:01,440 Fonda Portago was driving a Ferrari that was one of the most powerful cars in the 453 00:38:01,441 --> 00:38:03,940 race so he would have been expected to do well. 454 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,327 It was actually a race he detested and he didn't 455 00:38:07,328 --> 00:38:10,301 want to do that year but Ferrari insisted. 456 00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:18,418 He was embroiled at that time in a sort of mad passionate 457 00:38:18,419 --> 00:38:21,430 affair with this American actress Linda Christian. 458 00:38:22,090 --> 00:38:25,809 And one of the control points on the race Portago 459 00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:29,031 came in took on fuel and he had his card stamped. 460 00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:34,030 One of the mechanics noticed the rear bodywork was damaged and was actually 461 00:38:34,031 --> 00:38:37,090 folded over and it was very, very close to the tyre. 462 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:42,190 They wanted to change the tyre and Portago, you know, by all accounts just 463 00:38:42,191 --> 00:38:44,551 waved them away no, no, no, I haven't got time for all that. 464 00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:50,190 Then saw Linda Christian she came over and there was this passionate kiss having said 465 00:38:50,191 --> 00:38:52,448 there's no time to try and get the bodywork 466 00:38:52,449 --> 00:38:55,271 away from the tyre and he got on his way again. 467 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,852 In the closing stages of the race went at a place called 468 00:39:11,853 --> 00:39:15,400 Guidizzolo almost within sight and earshot of the finish. 469 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,940 A tyre burst on the car. 470 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,500 The car left the road somersaulted, hit the bank and disintegrated. 471 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,240 De Portago was killed Edmund Nelson, his navigator, was also killed. 472 00:39:36,590 --> 00:39:38,883 Nine spectators were killed five of them were 473 00:39:38,884 --> 00:39:42,001 children which made it particularly shocking. 474 00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:48,500 He died in the pursuit of a career to which he had given all his time and energy 475 00:39:48,501 --> 00:39:51,460 and that great competitive spirit which made him what he was. 476 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,900 That he should be killed on the threshold of a magnificent racing career is a great 477 00:39:56,901 --> 00:39:59,305 loss to racing and to the world of people 478 00:39:59,306 --> 00:40:01,600 who still retain an ounce of romance in them. 479 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:05,800 By the very nature of their lives people like Portago do not die in bed. 480 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:09,082 Their flags remain flying on the many competitive 481 00:40:09,083 --> 00:40:11,480 fields where they enjoyed their greatest triumphs. 482 00:40:12,255 --> 00:40:13,255 To the very end. 483 00:40:21,490 --> 00:40:27,210 It was not uncommon in the 1950s for spectators to be killed but this one, 484 00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:30,230 it was the five children that made the difference. 485 00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:35,310 For Enzo Ferrari this was a moment when he had to dig very, very deep. 486 00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:38,072 The Mille Miglia was never run again that was one 487 00:40:38,073 --> 00:40:40,731 thing but beyond that there was a manslaughter charge. 488 00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:46,150 There was an air of revulsion and the Vatican was horrified. 489 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:50,556 Do you feel responsible for something with 490 00:40:50,557 --> 00:40:52,470 a moral weight when these misfortunes occur? 491 00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:55,370 I deeply question myself. 492 00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:58,510 What do you feel when one of yours falls? 493 00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,990 The desire to give up? 494 00:41:00,850 --> 00:41:01,850 Many things. 495 00:41:02,890 --> 00:41:03,890 Too many things. 496 00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:09,050 For example, the amazing fragility of our lives. 497 00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:18,410 Mike Hawthorne had a congenital kidney problem. 498 00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:26,110 He would have days where he would be very pale and sweaty and weak and it showed. 499 00:41:28,270 --> 00:41:34,311 If he had gone public he risked not getting a competition licence on medical grounds. 500 00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:39,950 That was brushed under the carpet somewhat carefully by simply saying I have a 501 00:41:39,951 --> 00:41:42,390 chronic condition which flares up every now and then. 502 00:41:45,325 --> 00:41:47,330 From what I've been told he used to get angry 503 00:41:47,331 --> 00:41:50,511 with himself if he was having a weak day. 504 00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:51,870 Or just feeling lousy. 505 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,130 But I think in terms of people who knew about it there were very, very few people. 506 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,150 He refused to let the government know because there were questions in the Houses 507 00:42:02,151 --> 00:42:04,100 of Parliament why Mike Hawthorne wasn't going 508 00:42:04,101 --> 00:42:06,871 into the army doing his national service. 509 00:42:07,345 --> 00:42:09,630 And he wouldn't let his doctors tell them why. 510 00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:15,830 He never mentioned his disability but he certainly suffered from that and I think 511 00:42:15,831 --> 00:42:19,370 there were some days that he felt it more than others. 512 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,220 It was very exciting to be around Monaco. 513 00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:16,740 We bought that boat and decided to make that our home. 514 00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:23,600 Peter had a nice accident when his car went into the harbour. 515 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,080 Yeah, that was funny. 516 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,480 I think he did it twice. 517 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,120 Someone said you know your husband just went into the harbour. 518 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:32,920 I said it's alright he did that yesterday. 519 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:34,100 He knows how. 520 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,765 Peter and Mike had a lot of laughs together so when I 521 00:43:43,766 --> 00:43:47,680 came in on the scene the three of us clicked right away. 522 00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:50,840 We just had such a good funny time. 523 00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:59,780 Peter was I think generally regarded as a nicer person than Mike. 524 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,099 Mike could be terribly rude, terribly abrupt but with people 525 00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:12,400 he liked and got on with he was a great, great friend. 526 00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:16,740 Mon Ami Mate was like a comic strip. 527 00:44:17,170 --> 00:44:20,920 These two characters go on a trip to Mars. 528 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,138 They look at this Martian and to be friendly 529 00:44:25,139 --> 00:44:28,460 and saying hello they said hello Mon Ami Mate. 530 00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,620 It amused Peter and Mike so much. 531 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,380 That they just kept calling each other Mon Ami Mate. 532 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,340 You know it was all very nice and Mon Ami Mate and all that sort of thing but I 533 00:44:46,341 --> 00:44:48,880 don't think it was in the best interest of Ferrari. 534 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:55,840 Formula One team owners are pretty incapable of managing teams when you've 535 00:44:55,841 --> 00:44:58,971 got two very fast racing drivers alongside one another 536 00:44:58,972 --> 00:45:01,080 and we've seen it through the history of the sport. 537 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,900 Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn were basically coming as a package and for the 538 00:45:05,901 --> 00:45:10,920 first time Enzo Ferrari was faced with this weird situation where if he said 539 00:45:10,921 --> 00:45:13,660 something to Peter it actually affected Mike Hawthorn and vice versa. 540 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,860 It's sometimes attractive from their racing you know and they used to be 541 00:45:18,861 --> 00:45:23,660 mucking about you know changing places instead of concentrating 100% you know and 542 00:45:23,661 --> 00:45:26,963 I think this sense of competition was sort of slightly 543 00:45:26,964 --> 00:45:30,160 dulled between Mike and Peter to their detriment. 544 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,278 I mean Roy Salvadori said to me once God if 545 00:45:35,279 --> 00:45:37,700 I'd been Enzo Ferrari I'd have fired those two. 546 00:45:38,020 --> 00:45:39,800 They were such close friends. 547 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,780 They were almost happier when the other won. 548 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:27,860 Enzo always loved it when his drivers spurred each other on you know and if 549 00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:34,020 there were casualties well you know It's been suggested that Hawthorne and Collins 550 00:47:34,021 --> 00:47:40,661 ganged up on Luigi Musso, who was really the last of the great Italian drivers left. 551 00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:55,636 I think you must always wonder, sort of, what are they saying? 552 00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:57,960 I don't understand what they're saying. 553 00:47:57,961 --> 00:47:59,160 That can't have been easy. 554 00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:11,910 He forged this relationship with Fiamma, who was a beautiful girl, she really was. 555 00:48:28,270 --> 00:48:32,970 He was really carrying the weight of Italy on his shoulders. 556 00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:36,090 And driving way beyond his means. 557 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:47,070 Apart from being the only Italian driver of consequence in Formula 1, and the only 558 00:48:47,071 --> 00:48:51,790 Italian at Ferrari, he also, by all accounts, was not a very good businessman. 559 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:58,470 He'd entered into a business deal to import American cars into Italy. 560 00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:03,690 These backers got more and more concerned about their investment. 561 00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:07,250 And Musso suggested that he'd run up some gambling debts. 562 00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:11,130 He certainly was under some financial stress at the time. 563 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:22,760 The pressure had been building. 564 00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:28,000 The debt that Musso was finding himself in, the enormous rewards that you could 565 00:49:28,001 --> 00:49:30,720 receive if you won the French Grand Prix at Reims. 566 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,520 That was a race for Musso to win, no question about it. 567 00:49:59,980 --> 00:50:04,880 On three or four occasions in the opening laps, trying to match Hawthorne's pace 568 00:50:04,881 --> 00:50:09,160 through the very fast right-hand curve immediately after the pits. 569 00:50:09,860 --> 00:50:14,000 He'd put two wheels on the verge and there'd be a big puff of dust and stones. 570 00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:18,080 And some of the photographers would say, you know, hey, he's on the ragged edge. 571 00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:20,860 Because he got it slightly wrong. 572 00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:22,140 He was slightly off-line. 573 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,240 Left rear would have just caught the marbles and then he went off. 574 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,900 And the car somersaulted and threw him out. 575 00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:35,880 Luigi didn't make it to the seventh lap. 576 00:50:35,881 --> 00:50:39,900 I thought his car had had a problem or had stopped. 577 00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:41,940 But no one made a sign. 578 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,880 When there are no signs, you have to worry. 579 00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:53,280 He was thrown out and suffered a head injury which took his life. 580 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,860 I was young and I saw the world fall. 581 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,120 I went towards the window to throw myself out. 582 00:51:05,121 --> 00:51:06,600 They 583 00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:15,060 concur to a sinful event. 584 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,020 It's never just one cause. 585 00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:24,940 It's the concomitance of different reasons that lead to the sacrifice of a man. 586 00:51:29,170 --> 00:51:32,270 When Luigi Musso died, Ferrari was upset. 587 00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:37,570 But one way he showed his regret was to console Musso's girlfriend. 588 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,930 He set her up in a flower shop. 589 00:51:41,590 --> 00:51:43,390 He spent a lot of time with her. 590 00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:45,530 They had a long relationship. 591 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,700 A driver should have confidence in his own ability. 592 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,300 But not to be so naive as to think it can't happen to me. 593 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,600 If you come round a corner and find oil on the circuit, you can still spin and go off. 594 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:07,060 You recognise that was beyond your capabilities. 595 00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:10,060 You either accepted that or you didn't go motor racing. 596 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,380 Nobody's making you motor race. 597 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,360 It was terrible when you heard that somebody was killed. 598 00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:21,900 But after all, it was his decision to race. 599 00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:26,368 They were all aware in those days that it was 600 00:52:26,369 --> 00:52:30,261 very dangerous and they still were doing it. 601 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,100 If you ran off the road and there was a chance of the car overturning, 602 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,914 it was better to be thrown out than to be trapped in the 603 00:52:39,915 --> 00:52:43,200 cockpit by seatbelts and crushed underneath it when it landed. 604 00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,367 Or worse, burned to death by the fire that would 605 00:52:46,368 --> 00:52:50,121 almost inevitably follow a fuel tank burst. 606 00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:57,360 One time, Peter almost said something and I said, Don't. 607 00:52:57,361 --> 00:53:00,460 We never discussed the dangers of motor racing. 608 00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:04,400 And I think if we had, it would have compounded the fear. 609 00:53:04,580 --> 00:53:06,680 And the fear, you stuff away. 610 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,240 You don't want to bring that up. 611 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,260 You know, if you get involved with a racing driver, you 612 00:53:12,261 --> 00:53:14,476 take the risk that something's probably going to happen. 613 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:15,020 Certainly. 614 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,760 Certainly then, because it was so dangerous. 615 00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:22,520 There was a black humor in motor racing at that time, you know, to get through. 616 00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:23,700 It was a defense mechanism. 617 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,980 I know that one circuit we were at, there was an accident. 618 00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:30,340 And the driver got out and walked away. 619 00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:31,700 And the crowds went, oh. 620 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,260 It's an awful thing to say, but it's true. 621 00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:37,400 People go for the excitement. 622 00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:41,780 I was doing time charts all the time. 623 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,800 That may have helped keep that fear away. 624 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,500 But I had full confidence that Peter would never die. 625 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:55,680 It was very easy to ignore any possibility of things going wrong. 626 00:54:03,250 --> 00:54:08,830 Summer came to Silverstone on Saturday, July 19th, for the 1958 British Grand 627 00:54:08,831 --> 00:54:12,510 Prix, sixth race of the ten events counting for the World Championship. 628 00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:18,170 The crowds came too, in their tens of thousands, lining the three-mile circuit 629 00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:21,350 to watch the major event in the British calendar, a race 630 00:54:21,351 --> 00:54:23,870 made more dramatic by the fight for championship honors. 631 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:36,300 Peter had decided that because our marriage, that he would drive the few 632 00:54:36,301 --> 00:54:40,060 races that were left that year, and then retire. 633 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:52,630 Congratulations, Mike, on Reims. 634 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:55,390 You don't happen to have a spare bottle of champagne? 635 00:54:55,391 --> 00:54:57,410 No, I haven't got it yet. 636 00:54:57,710 --> 00:54:59,670 Tell me, what about the British Grand Prix? 637 00:54:59,970 --> 00:55:03,210 Because we won the last race, people were saying, well, Ferrari will win this one, 638 00:55:03,350 --> 00:55:05,350 but it's a completely different type of circuit. 639 00:55:37,310 --> 00:55:40,011 Collins was just absolutely on it that day, and 640 00:55:40,012 --> 00:55:42,891 he just controlled the race from start to finish. 641 00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:50,370 And Collins leads Hawthorne by 27 seconds at a race average of 102.5 miles an hour. 642 00:55:53,110 --> 00:55:56,150 He was supremely quick, Peter Collins, by then. 643 00:55:56,310 --> 00:56:01,130 And you can't describe his pace any other way because of what he did at Silverstone. 644 00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:12,290 Peter Collins wins after a magnificent drive, and Mike Hawthorne is second. 645 00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:17,660 Nobody expected him to win at Silverstone. 646 00:56:17,661 --> 00:56:20,207 He was on the second row, and he just took 647 00:56:20,208 --> 00:56:22,600 the lead from the start and won with abandon. 648 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,140 He drove beautifully that day. 649 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,240 You know, it was a British crowd, home victory. 650 00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:34,181 One golden boy in Peter Collins had won it, and the other 651 00:56:34,182 --> 00:56:37,500 golden boy, Mike Hawthorne, had come in in second place. 652 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,720 I mean, what could be better? 653 00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:59,347 The two weeks between the British Grand Prix and 654 00:56:59,348 --> 00:57:02,620 Nürburgring, we had just put money down on a house. 655 00:57:03,370 --> 00:57:05,640 So we were looking forward to getting back. 656 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,820 The trouble with poor Mr Ferrari, in a way, was that he'd suffered the very 657 00:57:14,821 --> 00:57:17,840 real personal tragedy of losing his son, Dino. 658 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,310 He'd transferred some of his almost paternal 659 00:57:21,322 --> 00:57:24,240 affection and ambition to Peter Collins. 660 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,932 The old man just feared that Collins' focus in 661 00:57:28,933 --> 00:57:32,681 life was not going to be any more on his racing. 662 00:57:35,770 --> 00:57:37,990 I mean, it was a wonderful time for us 663 00:57:38,002 --> 00:57:40,691 because we were making all these future plans. 664 00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:43,410 And Peter asked me not to come to Nürburgring. 665 00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:47,070 He said, we have so much work to do with this house. 666 00:57:47,410 --> 00:57:49,470 Why don't you just stay and manage that? 667 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,030 And I said, oh, no, I'm not going to let you go without me. 668 00:58:08,140 --> 00:58:11,820 When you think of circuits of that time, of course, there was Spa and it was very 669 00:58:11,821 --> 00:58:15,720 fast, but the Nürburgring was miles of torture. 670 00:58:17,020 --> 00:58:21,340 There was 180 corners per lap and you had any corner you liked to name. 671 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,093 The weather could change dramatically as it 672 00:58:24,094 --> 00:58:27,281 could in the mountains at any mountain circuit. 673 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,900 It was, I think, the most challenging circuit we had. 674 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,700 Undulating, narrow, demanding and unforgiving. 675 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:43,020 The car was airborne a lot and the drivers, of course, when they're in a 676 00:58:43,021 --> 00:58:45,640 groove, they're doing it from memory, they're doing it from muscle memory. 677 00:58:45,641 --> 00:58:49,680 But at the end of the day, there's always the unexpected around the next corner. 678 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,340 And that was probably the biggest problem of the Nürburgring. 679 00:59:14,170 --> 00:59:17,370 I thought it was just another race at Nürburgring. 680 00:59:18,130 --> 00:59:22,810 I didn't really have a lot of fear. 681 00:59:22,811 --> 00:59:25,530 I just had complete confidence in Peter. 682 01:00:19,370 --> 01:00:23,549 Phil Hill was leading the Formula 2 class until 683 01:00:23,550 --> 01:00:27,691 his dampers began to give up and his drum brakes. 684 01:00:28,550 --> 01:00:32,485 And in their Formula 1 cars, Hawthorne and Collins would 685 01:00:32,486 --> 01:00:35,910 have been experiencing exactly the same difficulties. 686 01:00:36,250 --> 01:00:39,619 But they're running up at the sharp end of the race, 687 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:43,110 going for the lead and battling with Tony Brooks. 688 01:00:43,610 --> 01:00:46,610 And Tony was the smoothest of drivers. 689 01:00:47,490 --> 01:00:53,580 And passed Mike, I think, initially one lap and then he repassed me. 690 01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:59,520 We swapped places on a couple of laps and then I got back into the race. 691 01:00:59,521 --> 01:00:59,640 And I was in the lead. 692 01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:06,760 So as these two ailing Ferraris became capable of only returning slower and 693 01:01:06,761 --> 01:01:09,909 slower lap times, their drivers had to drive 694 01:01:09,921 --> 01:01:12,801 more and more desperately to compensate. 695 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,020 I pulled into the straight and, of course, the first thing to do was to 696 01:01:19,021 --> 01:01:21,900 look behind and see where Mike or Peter were. 697 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,240 And I looked behind and there was no sign of either of them. 698 01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,300 I was in the pits with my timekeeping stuff. 699 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,660 Peter didn't come around again. 700 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,760 And I thought, what's happening? 701 01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:45,240 But I focused on that lap chart. 702 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:53,460 Mike's account, following Collins, was that he saw the car drift off onto the 703 01:01:53,461 --> 01:01:56,116 grass and thought, well, you silly arse, you've overcooked that one. 704 01:01:56,140 --> 01:01:58,277 And he expected him to ride up the bank a bit 705 01:01:58,278 --> 01:02:00,600 and then come back off the grass onto the road. 706 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,660 And he was a bit concerned about that. 707 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,067 He was concerned that he might spin across 708 01:02:04,068 --> 01:02:06,440 the road and might, himself, might hit him. 709 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:12,060 But then, to his horror, the car reared up on that bank. 710 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,156 And he just got a glimpse of his great friend Peter 711 01:02:17,176 --> 01:02:19,940 Collins being thrown out, flying through the air. 712 01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:53,912 Mr Hawthorne, you were driving just behind Peter 713 01:02:53,913 --> 01:02:56,620 Collins, I think, when this accident occurred. 714 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,860 Just how did it happen? 715 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,720 Well, um... 716 01:03:00,980 --> 01:03:03,200 There was a little dip and we went into that. 717 01:03:05,010 --> 01:03:09,820 And there was a sharp right-hander after that and he took it just a little too wide. 718 01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:11,720 He didn't turn into it soon enough. 719 01:03:13,610 --> 01:03:17,080 And the car hit the bank and turned over. 720 01:03:17,830 --> 01:03:20,000 How fast was he travelling, would you say? 721 01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:21,260 How fast were you? 722 01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:21,860 I don't know. 723 01:03:21,861 --> 01:03:22,861 No, no. 724 01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:40,615 So it wasn't until after the race that I was told Peter had 725 01:03:40,616 --> 01:03:45,030 an accident and he's being flown to Bonn to the hospital. 726 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,450 And I said, can I go too? 727 01:03:47,570 --> 01:03:48,570 And they said no. 728 01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:56,650 My father, at the United Nations, he had always been having someone keeping 729 01:03:56,850 --> 01:03:58,610 track of Peter's racing. 730 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:05,450 So this UN man called my father and said, Peter's been in an accident. 731 01:04:06,090 --> 01:04:08,350 And then my father pulled a few strings. 732 01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:11,750 And then he called the hospital. 733 01:04:12,990 --> 01:04:20,850 And when I got into the hospital, the first thing that happened was I was 734 01:04:20,851 --> 01:04:25,010 told, oh, you have a phone call at the reception desk. 735 01:04:25,011 --> 01:04:26,510 And I went there. 736 01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:29,470 And my father was on the phone from New York. 737 01:04:30,090 --> 01:04:32,330 And he told me that Peter had died. 738 01:04:34,030 --> 01:04:41,170 That just, I thought, was so beautiful that he would say, I will tell her. 739 01:04:43,350 --> 01:04:45,010 I said, well, I want to see him. 740 01:04:45,970 --> 01:04:48,030 And they took me down. 741 01:04:48,110 --> 01:04:51,190 He was in the basement, which was cooler, you know. 742 01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:53,270 And I went down there. 743 01:04:53,271 --> 01:05:00,730 And I looked and I saw one foot, the covering that was over him. 744 01:05:01,350 --> 01:05:04,930 That one foot was out. 745 01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:11,150 And in an instant, I knew he was dead. 746 01:05:12,260 --> 01:05:13,830 And so that was that. 747 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,770 And we only had a year and a half. 748 01:05:18,045 --> 01:05:21,050 But it was a great year and a half. 749 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,130 Michael was desperately upset. 750 01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:04,270 And it was the first time I ever saw Mike cry. 751 01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:09,590 He was beside himself, really, because he'd lost his great mate. 752 01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,350 Could you say a few words as a friend of his 753 01:06:26,351 --> 01:06:29,120 about Peter Collins as a man and as a driver? 754 01:06:29,770 --> 01:06:32,280 Well, as a driver, I mean, he was definitely one of the best. 755 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,440 As a friend. 756 01:06:38,515 --> 01:06:39,515 Well, he was my friend. 757 01:07:00,970 --> 01:07:01,670 He was my friend. 758 01:07:01,671 --> 01:07:03,730 I'd say I've always had a lot of fear. 759 01:07:04,310 --> 01:07:05,830 Which ones are the most frequent? 760 01:07:06,590 --> 01:07:07,590 All of them. 761 01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:32,910 It's very difficult even now, trying to comprehend what it would have been like. 762 01:07:34,090 --> 01:07:42,090 How Ferrari got through that period and emerged is a tribute to Enzo's passion for 763 01:07:42,091 --> 01:07:46,790 motor racing and his ability to turn the page ...and move onwards. 764 01:07:50,350 --> 01:07:53,778 Once you've been through as much as he had been 765 01:07:53,779 --> 01:07:56,910 through, he was already like a person in war. 766 01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:59,230 It means losing drivers and everything. 767 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,650 And he did his best, I suppose, to act appropriately. 768 01:08:03,450 --> 01:08:06,470 To what degree he really felt these things is hard to say. 769 01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:14,790 When you think of Peter Collins and his grace, his sportsmanship, and what he did 770 01:08:14,791 --> 01:08:18,222 at Monza in 1956, it's constantly Peter Collins 771 01:08:18,223 --> 01:08:21,591 doing these wonderfully humble gestures. 772 01:08:21,860 --> 01:08:26,550 If you look at Luigi Musso and Eugino Castellotti, they were divided in their 773 01:08:26,551 --> 01:08:31,570 support, but they brought to Formula One the Italian element of glory. 774 01:08:31,770 --> 01:08:35,170 And that's something that was very difficult for both drivers. 775 01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:38,950 Both drivers crashed and died under that pressure. 776 01:08:39,345 --> 01:08:43,210 And then there was Alfonso de Portago, who was basically James Dean on wheels, 777 01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:44,390 was great. 778 01:08:45,390 --> 01:08:50,950 The appeal of the drivers in the 1950s was that they were all so different and yet 779 01:08:50,951 --> 01:08:55,150 united in this willingness to take enormous risks. 780 01:08:55,830 --> 01:09:01,591 With each death of the driver, the pressure mounted on Enzo Ferrari and the team. 781 01:09:02,010 --> 01:09:06,830 Team manager Romolo Tavoni tells us that Mr Ferrari was devastated. 782 01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:09,905 His initial reaction was to say, we must 783 01:09:09,917 --> 01:09:12,450 give up Grand Prix racing, this is too much. 784 01:09:12,530 --> 01:09:16,810 But Hawthorne went to see him and said, I want to finish the season. 785 01:09:17,150 --> 01:09:20,250 I'll drive another car if I've got to, but I want to drive a Ferrari. 786 01:09:21,135 --> 01:09:24,150 I think he'd lost the love of racing, but he was 787 01:09:24,151 --> 01:09:27,191 determined to do it for Peter's sake, really. 788 01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:37,930 Thereafter, for the rest of the season, each time they finished a race, 789 01:09:38,230 --> 01:09:41,450 Mike would say, well, that's another bloody race, I don't have to do again. 790 01:09:42,170 --> 01:09:44,806 But whichever way you slice it, he was in there 791 01:09:44,807 --> 01:09:46,951 with a chance of the Drivers' World Championship. 792 01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:51,290 In actual fact, he reckoned that Peter would have won the World Championship, 793 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,530 and I think that made him upset. 794 01:09:56,450 --> 01:09:59,529 Between the Italian Grand Prix and the Moroccan 795 01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:03,051 Grand Prix, it was six very tense weeks. 796 01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:08,430 Everybody used to bug Mike, you know, every time he went into a pub, 797 01:10:08,570 --> 01:10:11,090 they would say to him, oh, Mike, it's not long now. 798 01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:12,870 So we stayed at home. 799 01:10:14,610 --> 01:10:19,550 The British press were also fired up by the fact that there was now going to be a 800 01:10:19,551 --> 01:10:23,350 British Formula One World Champion driver for the very first time. 801 01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:28,110 The Daily Mirror characterised it as the showdown in the sun. 802 01:10:30,430 --> 01:10:31,870 Michael was very nervous. 803 01:10:32,050 --> 01:10:35,230 He wasn't at all himself, you know, the sort 804 01:10:35,242 --> 01:10:38,151 of carefree person that he normally was. 805 01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:42,810 Sometimes he really had to slow down and rest. 806 01:10:42,811 --> 01:10:43,830 And take it easy. 807 01:10:44,650 --> 01:10:50,290 So I was always aware when he felt like that, that he had to take care of himself. 808 01:10:52,090 --> 01:10:57,490 You know, before a race, I was amazed that Mike actually came into my room and stayed 809 01:10:57,491 --> 01:11:00,090 with me for the whole night, which was most unlike Mike. 810 01:11:00,835 --> 01:11:03,110 He just wanted to be with somebody, I think. 811 01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:04,830 I think he was very nervous. 812 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:24,840 All that Moss had to do to win the World Championship was to beat Hawthorne, 813 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,072 and hopefully set fastest lap, which scored an 814 01:11:28,073 --> 01:11:31,460 extra point, with Mike finishing lower than third. 815 01:12:58,850 --> 01:13:01,637 At the end of the race in Morocco, Phil Hill had done 816 01:13:01,638 --> 01:13:04,630 the decent thing and handed second place to Hawthorne. 817 01:13:04,970 --> 01:13:06,710 Moss had done everything he could do. 818 01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:08,490 He'd won, he'd set fastest lap. 819 01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:12,750 But still, when it was all over, Mike Hawthorne was the World Champion. 820 01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:20,630 Mr Ferrari's reaction to winning the World Championship after what in so many ways 821 01:13:20,631 --> 01:13:25,850 had been that catastrophic year was one of immense, overwhelming relief. 822 01:13:26,830 --> 01:13:31,110 Moss ended up one point, just that solitary point, behind Hawthorne. 823 01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:35,670 So Mr Ferrari knew that they'd shaded it, but hey, a win's a win. 824 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,861 With just a few laps to go, Stuart Lewis Evans was running 825 01:13:41,961 --> 01:13:44,400 fourth in the van wall, but suddenly his engine seized. 826 01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:45,620 The car caught fire. 827 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,940 By the time the brilliant young Englishman was out, he was already severely burnt. 828 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,302 That affected Mike, because he hated drivers 829 01:13:54,303 --> 01:13:57,140 being hurt, and he knew that Stuart was very ill. 830 01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:00,315 He told Enzo after the race that he wasn't 831 01:14:00,316 --> 01:14:03,461 going to race any more, and Enzo was furious. 832 01:14:04,705 --> 01:14:06,940 Can you give us any news of Stuart Lewis Evans? 833 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,020 He's quite badly burnt. 834 01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:12,680 He came back in the aeroplane on a stretcher, where there's just now. 835 01:14:13,670 --> 01:14:18,260 He was talking and drinking tea, but he's obviously in quite a lot of pain. 836 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:20,902 So the flight was over, and the flight home was 837 01:14:20,903 --> 01:14:22,340 bittersweet in the truest sense of the word. 838 01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,736 On the one hand, Mike Hawthorne had won his world championship. 839 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,320 On the other, there was Stuart Lewis Evans' terrible agony from these burns. 840 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:31,100 He died a few days later in London. 841 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,660 You look at footage of Mike having won the world championship. 842 01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:37,960 He doesn't look to be happy, but then why would he? 843 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,360 It was a year that in many ways Mike would have wanted to have forgotten, 844 01:14:42,795 --> 01:14:44,020 and yet he was world champion. 845 01:14:49,470 --> 01:14:53,660 He was a very good world champion, because he looked good, and he spoke well. 846 01:14:54,175 --> 01:14:56,640 So he wore the mantle extremely well. 847 01:14:57,700 --> 01:14:59,580 I've had eight years of racing. 848 01:15:00,430 --> 01:15:01,820 In eight years I got to the top. 849 01:15:02,610 --> 01:15:04,900 So I decided now's the time. 850 01:15:05,580 --> 01:15:08,240 Thank you all very, very much indeed for coming along. 851 01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:09,700 Be so patient to listen to me. 852 01:15:10,650 --> 01:15:13,274 And I hope one day some of you will come 853 01:15:13,286 --> 01:15:16,180 along and join me, and we'll empty that lot. 854 01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:17,460 Thank you very much. 855 01:15:37,325 --> 01:15:42,710 On the 22nd of January 1959, Mike had a lunch appointment up in London. 856 01:15:44,190 --> 01:15:45,830 He didn't want to go to London that day. 857 01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:47,030 He wasn't feeling very well. 858 01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:50,453 I knew that he was in a lot of pain, and I'd 859 01:15:50,454 --> 01:15:53,191 seen him on the floor writhing around in agony. 860 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,570 When I came back to England, my most urgent thing was to see Mike. 861 01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:01,607 We said, okay, we'll see each other after 862 01:16:01,608 --> 01:16:04,731 that luncheon, and he would come to my hotel. 863 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:12,230 As he went along the road, Hogsback Road, he came up behind a Mercedes-Benz 300SL 864 01:16:12,231 --> 01:16:16,210 Gullwing, and he recognized the driver immediately as Rob Walker. 865 01:16:16,450 --> 01:16:20,970 I saw a Jaguar come up behind me, and I saw it was Mike Hawthorne, 866 01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:25,610 and we both accelerated as hard as we could alongside each other. 867 01:16:26,450 --> 01:16:30,590 Rob was thinking, oh, you know, this is all getting a bit much for me, 868 01:16:30,670 --> 01:16:33,310 and I'm not really a racing driver, though I'm keen. 869 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,200 I was so looking forward to it. 870 01:16:48,220 --> 01:16:48,800 I was seeing him. 871 01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:55,621 I wanted very much to have Mike tell me what it's like to be in a serious accident. 872 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,800 Does your whole life run in front of you, or what happens? 873 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:37,650 When I walked into the hotel, the receptionist knew me. 874 01:17:38,805 --> 01:17:40,430 Peter had always stayed in that hotel. 875 01:17:41,475 --> 01:17:42,890 He was very aware of things. 876 01:17:42,891 --> 01:17:45,270 The receptionist didn't look at me. 877 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:52,250 And I got into the elevator, up to whatever floor I was on, went into my 878 01:17:52,251 --> 01:17:58,730 room, and knock on the door, and it was the manager of the hotel. 879 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:01,750 And he told me that Mike had died. 880 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,240 And I just... I mean, it was shattering. 881 01:18:09,380 --> 01:18:10,380 It was shattering. 882 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,640 It was just awful. 883 01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:16,560 Rob managed to get the back door open, and bent down. 884 01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:20,825 And he told me that, as he looked at Mike, 885 01:18:20,826 --> 01:18:25,841 Mike's eyes glazed, and there was a gentle gasp. 886 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,160 And that was it. 887 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:51,220 I was up in Yorkshire when I heard the news, and I just didn't believe it. 888 01:18:53,935 --> 01:18:57,865 But when I did believe it, I had a lot of 889 01:18:57,885 --> 01:19:02,080 friends in that part of the world, and they... 890 01:19:03,290 --> 01:19:05,880 I think seemed to remember going for a long walk on the moors. 891 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,220 I think I heard it on the television at home, and it was... 892 01:19:15,020 --> 01:19:20,880 you know, it was very, very sad, and, you know, so unnecessary, really. 893 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,200 But it's easy to say that with the benefit of hindsight. 894 01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:35,660 I think it's that he had a blackout. 895 01:19:36,370 --> 01:19:38,360 Because he knew that road backwards. 896 01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:39,340 He knew the cars. 897 01:19:39,341 --> 01:19:40,860 He used to race that car. 898 01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:46,660 And that road, it might have been slippery, but Mike's been in masses of skids. 899 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,571 So I think he had a blackout, and he didn't 900 01:19:48,572 --> 01:19:51,001 really know anything about the accident at all. 901 01:19:51,555 --> 01:19:53,275 That's what I think, and that's what I hope. 902 01:19:59,630 --> 01:20:02,030 Whichever way you look at it, Mike's life was tragic. 903 01:20:02,210 --> 01:20:07,430 He only got to savour his world championship for three months, 904 01:20:08,165 --> 01:20:09,405 and then it all just went away. 905 01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:18,190 People who knew him well said to me, he would not have made 35. 906 01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:22,250 Well, that's true or not, I don't know. 907 01:20:23,890 --> 01:20:26,510 But the prognosis wasn't very good. 908 01:20:28,215 --> 01:20:29,990 His last Christmas was spent in bed. 909 01:20:30,170 --> 01:20:31,210 He wasn't at all well. 910 01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:33,550 I didn't know how ill he was. 911 01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:38,490 His doctor told me later that he only had a few years to live. 912 01:20:39,890 --> 01:20:44,190 So the way he went, I suppose, it was the best way for Mike. 913 01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:53,570 For someone who's gone, she says in a not-so-Sibylline way, that then time is in 914 01:20:53,571 --> 01:20:56,570 charge of defining the ability of all of them. 915 01:20:57,310 --> 01:21:04,470 Because it's not the people who make the judgments that we have to believe in, 916 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,270 but the time that judges. 917 01:21:06,670 --> 01:21:07,890 And it's inexorable. 918 01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:16,888 If you put a racing driver in a racing car, he's always 919 01:21:16,889 --> 01:21:19,830 going to take it to the limit and beyond if necessary. 920 01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:23,570 Um... Ferrari certainly didn't discourage that. 921 01:21:24,030 --> 01:21:27,290 He wanted drivers who thought like that. 922 01:21:54,370 --> 01:21:57,001 It was phenomenal with Castellotti and Musso 923 01:21:57,002 --> 01:21:59,700 and Di Portago and Collins and Hawthorne. 924 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:00,980 That was an amazing bunch. 925 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,480 An amazing bunch of characters as well as a bunch of talents. 926 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:09,340 And to lose those drivers, one after another, it was a terrible thing. 927 01:22:09,460 --> 01:22:10,640 It couldn't happen now. 928 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,420 And it was probably unique in sporting history. 929 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,420 Well, they were rather like fighter pilots. 930 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,380 Or gladiators, I suppose. 931 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:20,520 They were... 932 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,400 They were stars. 933 01:22:24,910 --> 01:22:27,660 They would have been the first out of the trench or over the top. 934 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,240 The first off the landing craft. 935 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,180 These guys were... 936 01:22:35,330 --> 01:22:36,330 They were warriors. 86090

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