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When you begin to write the
story of your life, sometimes
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it's best to forego a grand
plan... and just put pen to paper.
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A lot of times I'll just
go back and think about
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all the questions I was
asked over those 20 years.
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Does it hurt?
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Are you some sort of psychopath?
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Some sort of masochist?
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You seem like such a normal guy.
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Why would you
do that to yourself?
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I used to answer all those
questions the same way.
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I'm Mick Fowler.
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This is what I do.
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But June 28, 1998, that was the first time
I came face-to-face with my own mortality.
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And now I was the one asking
the question, is it worth it?
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Our neighborhood
was a great place.
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It was small, but we had
some close-knit families.
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My parents had been
here for almost 60 years.
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Really, it hasn't
changed that much.
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Still looks like a
good place to grow up.
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My mom and dad used to always use
the word sweet to describe my demeanor.
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I wasn't like a tough
kid or a bad kid.
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I was a sweet kid.
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To me this was
an idyllic childhood.
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I would leave at 9, 9 30 a.m.
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We would swim.
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Swimming, playing frisbee, playing wiffle
ball, basketball, football in the street.
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And my mom would ring a bell for
us when it was time to eat dinner.
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We just got into so much
trouble, but you know, good trouble.
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When I was eight years old, we
were playing kill the guy with the ball.
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That was an actual game.
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In diving for someone
who had the ball, their heel
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kicked me in the bottom of
the lip and it bled profusely.
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And I remember seeing the reactions
of people when they saw my blood.
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And not disliking it.
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My dad worked long hours.
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He was the director of
health, physical education
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and recreation for the
entire school district.
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I was pretty shy in high school.
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I was playing football and
basketball and lacrosse.
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And I was definitely living in the
shadow of my dad, trying to break out.
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I was becoming a peculiar
young man, very imaginative.
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He was very creative.
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It's funny because he
wasn't a macho, tough guy.
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He was just, he
was a gentle spirit.
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I was a running back
on the football team,
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and they said they needed
another heavyweight.
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I would wrestle
with Mick every day.
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You know, we were in
there training together
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and just kind of
beating each other up.
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And it was, it was a blast.
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We had a lot of fun.
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He was quirky.
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Always a weird
look, weird haircut.
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One of the parades, he was
on a prom float and all that.
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He was just crazy.
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You're gross.
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Everybody thinks
you're disgusting.
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You wear the same
clothes every day.
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You never comb your hair.
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You're fat.
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You're an animal.
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You're the body
of a bowling pin.
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I guess I've always
been self-deprecating.
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I was never really comfortable with
the way I looked, especially physically.
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I was always heavy set.
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And I got teased a lot about it.
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So I was beating people
to the punchline before
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they could make their
own punchline about me.
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Was that a tough period
for you and your dad?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was... we both
struggled a little bit to
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find ways to bond, and
it was really wrestling.
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That was like the glue
that held that relationship
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together through
that three-year period.
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That was the one thing, you know,
maybe we didn't get along the rest of the
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week, but when it came
time Saturday night, you
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know, hey, Dad, you want
to watch wrestling with me?
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And the answer was always yes.
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Hello, everyone.
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Welcome to Madison
Square Garden.
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Vince McMahon here at ringside.
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You know, we were kids
if you watched Ivan Putski
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and, you know, Billy
Graham and Andre the Giant.
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All these wrestlers
had something.
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Mickey didn't have any of
those qualities, none of them.
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Oh, my God!
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Unbelievable!
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We would go outside,
film little matches.
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Fuck off!
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And I think I gave you a backbreaker,
and someone snapped a twig.
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Someone snapped a twig, exactly.
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And then I did the convulsions.
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Oh, I think he might have
broke his neck on that one.
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Number one, man!
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You remember that,
Vince McMahon!
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You remember that!
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I had it on my
mind all the time.
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It's really all I wanted to do or
watch was professional wrestling.
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You walk out these doors, and
you're in the heart of the Big Apple.
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The whole world revolves.
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And right now it's revolving
around us, snooker.
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In a cage.
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Jimmy Superfly snooker
and the Magnificent Morocco.
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He had a great future.
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And it culminated with
a steel cage match.
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And I knew, like, I
absolutely had to be there.
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I was going to college
in upstate New York.
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But I hitchhiked to be there
and paid for a seat right up front.
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And I just vividly remember the way I
felt when Superfly gets up to the top rope.
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You could feel that buzz, right?
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Which is good.
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But we all felt like there
was something better.
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Go, right!
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Jimmy to the top
of the steel cage!
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I don't believe it!
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15...
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And even though I'm all by myself,
I now feel like I'm in a community,
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like there's a feeling
of togetherness.
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I remember thinking to
myself that one day, I wanted
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to make people feel the
way that I felt right then.
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I went back to school, and when I told my
housemates that I wanted to be a wrestler,
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they all called me a weirdo.
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I told my parents, too, and they
actually supported the idea, but it wasn't
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something they would allow
me to drop out of school for.
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So even though I was
obsessed with this wrestling
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dream, I still tried to
have a normal college life.
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There was a young lady I was really
fond of, and you could see it in her smile,
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like her face would light
up when she saw me.
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And I walked this young lady home,
and I believe we held hands, and I think
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there was a nice parting kiss, and I said
to her, I had such a good time, Joanne.
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She looked at me and said,
listen, I had a good time, too, Frank.
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And I just, I felt my
little heart break.
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I had no way to deal with the pain
that I felt except to write this story.
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And when I got home for
summer break, my friends
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and I recorded the
legend of Frank Foley.
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I had a good time tonight.
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Thanks a lot, Frank.
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My name is Mick.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Good night, Mick.
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So I create this fictional
character of dude love
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who is essentially
everything that I was not.
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Let me tell you
something about me.
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I am the molten lava of lust, the
object of so many women's desires.
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Long ago, I refused
to count them all.
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It was a fairy tale.
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It was dude love, one of the greatest
performers in the history of wrestling.
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I may have been kicked around as Fat
Mick Foley, Fat Ugly Mick Foley, Mick Foley
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with no chicks, but let
me tell you something now.
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I'm telling you people out
in the audience, out there
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in TV Wonderland, dude love
is another name for respect.
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And I will get that
respect, brother.
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I need respect.
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And I found that I
was more natural.
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Like, I was portraying a
character, but I wasn't acting.
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I was feeling it.
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My brother says, Hey, Teddy, we're
doing a movie about Mickie as a wrestler,
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and we need you for a scene in, you
know, for a scene for like 15 minutes.
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You're going to wrestle
Mickie in the backyard.
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I'm like, okay.
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He tells me these different moves we're
going to do, and then it's going to finish
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by Mickie puts you down on this mattress,
and he's going to jump off the roof.
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I just remember thinking,
that's got to be 20 feet high.
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I'm like, this is
not a good idea.
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And this is where the
magic took place, right?
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Yeah.
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Time.
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Love must be 50,
60, 70 feet in the air.
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Put your arms up.
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Put your arms up.
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Dude, look!
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I stay up there an inordinate amount
of time trying to gather the courage.
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Like...
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Instead of leaping, I
kind of just went like...
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You know, you're so
lucky because when you
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watch that video, the
mattresses, they separate.
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They separate, yeah.
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And you, you know,
the roof is here, buddy.
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Want one more try?
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Absolutely not.
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There was a charity
wrestling event at the high
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school, and Mick came
to work security on it.
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I was really fortunate.
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My dad told the promoter that
his son wanted to be a wrestler.
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He pulled me aside and asked
me if I wanted to join his ring crew.
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And that meant when I went back to
college, I would come down at about a
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250-mile drive a couple weekends a month,
and if I got the ring set up before the
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fans arrived, he would have a veteran
wrestler, Dominic DiNucci, work with me.
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The first time I came in here,
you couldn't tie your shoes.
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Right.
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Okay?
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You were flipping over
your own feet in the ring.
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I did not like the pain.
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I liked the fact that I
seemed to have a hold over it,
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and I had an ability to make
my opponents look good.
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And that was something that
every promoter was looking for.
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I turned pro after a year of
training, and I was just awful.
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It looked like a mating
ritual of two bull elk.
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I knew there was so
much more I had to learn.
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So on the weekends, I was
working the independents,
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and I did that all the
way through graduation.
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It didn't matter to me that I was
getting $10 for a 900-mile round trip.
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And while other college students are
going on their spring break, I'm in Polka,
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West Virginia, in front of
26 people because I could
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feel myself getting better
every time I went out there.
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This was my life now,
and anything was possible.
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I don't make it a point
to practice my hygiene
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while leaning on
somebody else's truck.
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But it's not the first time.
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Yeah, I mean, you...
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I've changed clothes
many times in cars.
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There was a place called
the Admiral Perry Motor
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Lodge that was $15 a
night when I broke in.
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I would stay there every Saturday night,
but every Friday night was car night.
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And I would pull over,
no matter how cold it was.
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I had two sleeping bags
in the back seat of my car.
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It felt pretty good to me.
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I wanted to be Dude
Love, but I wasn't realistic
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enough to know
that I wasn't there yet.
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So I thought, let
me just find the most
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generic, vanilla,
homogenized name I could find.
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From Truth or Consequences, New
Mexico, 260 pounds, Cactus Jack.
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I remember being at my buddy Brian
Hildebrandt's at his house in Pittsburgh,
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and he's got this insider
wrestling newsletter.
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I'd only heard rumor of.
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And he goes, you're in it.
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I said, I'm in it.
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On every wrestling show, there's
gonna be a dozen, two dozen wrestlers.
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Ones who do something spectacular that
make when you go home, you remember them.
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Those are the ones who stand out,
and the rest of them kind of just blend in.
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And very quickly,
he didn't blend in.
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He was a guy who you
started hearing things
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about, like, hey, this
guy's having good matches.
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I remember it to this day.
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It's Cactus Jack is the best no-name
independent wrestler on the scene.
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Like, that was some really, really high
praise coming from the Wrestling Observer.
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The people in charge read it.
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And I had three
offers within a week.
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That's how I became part of
the Memphis wrestling territory.
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Uh-oh.
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What is this?
242
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A new recruit for the... I
know who he's talking about!
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Cactus Jack!
244
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Welcome to the stable, Benny!
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This man right here is in the stable,
not because his name's Cactus Jack,
246
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but because he's tough!
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He's tough, baby!
248
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And because he wins matches!
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All right, we got gorgeous
Gary Young and Cactus Jack.
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Young out of Little Rock,
Arkansas, and Cactus
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Jack out of Truth or
Consequences, New Mexico.
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Mick, from the very
beginning, had a unique...
253
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not just aura about him,
but he had a unique style.
254
00:13:32,830 --> 00:13:35,310
And now whips
him, but it's reversed!
255
00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:39,350
And... Jack was
right behind him.
256
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You know, nobody
was making any money.
257
00:13:41,211 --> 00:13:44,630
So there wasn't necessarily
a reason to really go all out.
258
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I wanted to be the guy who delivered
moves that nobody else could do.
259
00:13:48,910 --> 00:13:51,630
Even if it was as simple as
saying, all right, back body drop.
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Cactus Jack with Dundee!
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00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:53,890
Whoo!
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Look at that!
263
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Yeah, that's an
impressive-looking move in the ring.
264
00:13:58,130 --> 00:13:59,450
Let's do it outside the ring.
265
00:13:59,670 --> 00:14:01,650
Cactus Jack far
bigger than Mondo.
266
00:14:01,850 --> 00:14:03,390
And right in front of us.
267
00:14:03,391 --> 00:14:04,830
And out comes Cactus Jack.
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00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:06,070
Right hand!
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00:14:06,210 --> 00:14:07,210
Right hand!
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00:14:09,650 --> 00:14:11,010
Big brother Chavo!
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People were genuinely
concerned for Mick.
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Like, Mick, don't take
this crazy bump tonight.
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00:14:16,735 --> 00:14:18,670
Mick would have a sly grin.
274
00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:21,490
He's like, ah,
thanks, but no thanks.
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He was a good-hearted guy that would just
give and give and give to the business.
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00:14:27,335 --> 00:14:30,650
A lot of times, guys that
are like that get run over.
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It was a great
learning experience.
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I didn't feel like I fit in, but I
learned something every day.
279
00:14:36,950 --> 00:14:39,750
And it was a perfect stepping
stone for a bigger opportunity.
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Listen to the fans cheer.
281
00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:45,830
The superstars of pro wrestling.
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The greatest name in professional
wrestling today, the Von Erics,
283
00:14:48,890 --> 00:14:49,890
have been for years.
284
00:14:50,050 --> 00:14:53,950
World class, always looking
for villains for the Von Eric boys.
285
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,700
You didn't look like a Von Eric.
286
00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:03,940
No.
287
00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,840
Robert Fuller says, you
know, you remind me of Jacko.
288
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,540
I said, who's that?
289
00:15:07,620 --> 00:15:09,480
He goes, you remind
me of that Manson feller.
290
00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,480
I was like, Rob, I do not want to
be... associated with Charles Manson.
291
00:15:16,180 --> 00:15:20,020
He says, Jacko, there's not too
many good paying jobs in this business.
292
00:15:20,915 --> 00:15:23,920
A man like you could ride
a good gimmick a long way.
293
00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:26,420
I decided, I'm
going to be this guy.
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00:15:26,540 --> 00:15:29,520
I'm going to do the best job
at being this guy that I can be.
295
00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,220
Jack is Jack Manson.
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00:15:33,221 --> 00:15:34,640
The unorthodox division.
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00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,140
Jack is Manson.
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00:15:39,340 --> 00:15:40,700
Jack is Manson.
299
00:15:40,820 --> 00:15:42,180
Jack is Manson.
300
00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,280
And now sounds, away we go.
301
00:15:51,020 --> 00:15:53,620
He is just beating young
Doug Masters to death.
302
00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,120
Your winner, ladies and
gentlemen, Cactus Jack Manson!
303
00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,540
I remember seeing
Cactus Jack Manson.
304
00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:09,540
I was going to college at North Texas
State University, and I would go down to
305
00:16:09,541 --> 00:16:11,320
the sportatorium, and
I was thinking, man...
306
00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,360
Nice!
307
00:16:14,165 --> 00:16:15,640
This guy is out of his mind.
308
00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:20,220
He was fun to watch.
309
00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:27,580
I mean, here was a guy that would
take every kind of crazy bump imaginable.
310
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,760
I thought I was a big bump guy at the
time, and then when I saw Cactus Jack,
311
00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:35,300
I went, wow, this guy's got to
be nuts or something, you know.
312
00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:37,780
Back in the day, he used
to run down that apron
313
00:16:37,781 --> 00:16:40,701
and do that elbow off
onto the guy on the floor.
314
00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,856
That's it, I'll get
him back in the ring.
315
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,300
Or is he?
316
00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:44,140
Look out!
317
00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:45,280
Look out!
318
00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:47,000
Oh, my goodness!
319
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,460
He drops an elbow
out on the floor!
320
00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,120
And that floor doesn't give!
321
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,827
And he would just
splatter himself down
322
00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:57,321
there, and you would
hear this horrific thud.
323
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,420
I would go to the cameraman, and I would
say, you know, when you shoot the elbow
324
00:17:03,421 --> 00:17:08,800
drop over my shoulder, we're kind of
losing the impressive perception of depth.
325
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,700
And the guy, what do you mean?
326
00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,800
I said, can we come in
with a low camera shot?
327
00:17:12,801 --> 00:17:15,407
And within a week or
two, you know, it looks
328
00:17:15,408 --> 00:17:18,241
like I'm flying into
people's living rooms.
329
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,320
The hip buster!
330
00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:27,120
The only wrestling move made for the
damage it does to the man who delivers it!
331
00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,160
And I thought, well, I know how
much it hurts to land in the ring.
332
00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,940
How is he doing that?
333
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:39,140
I did think to myself, what if I created a
style that had no loopholes, where no one
334
00:17:39,141 --> 00:17:43,440
looking at a VHS tape, no matter how
many times they fast forward, slow motion,
335
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,260
they could find a secret.
336
00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:47,160
The secret is, I was
really getting hurt.
337
00:17:47,540 --> 00:17:50,500
Like, ta-da, there's
my magician's secret.
338
00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:53,080
Like, yeah, if it looked like
it hurt, it's because it did.
339
00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:58,940
Gary Young pulls me aside, and he says,
they're putting us with Enro Skandor Akbar.
340
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,880
He was Devastation Incorporated.
341
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,960
That was his group.
342
00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:04,380
Oh, man.
343
00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:07,300
It was like having a rocket
attached to our backs.
344
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,380
Hey, what's going on out here?
345
00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:12,580
Someone crawled out
from underneath the ring!
346
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,960
It's Cactus Jack Benson trying to hit
home runs with Eric for that ball bat.
347
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,160
He may lose...
348
00:18:20,790 --> 00:18:25,410
I walked out to find that my tires had
been slashed on my Plymouth Arrow.
349
00:18:25,670 --> 00:18:28,370
I came back inside, and I said, I
don't know how I'm gonna get home.
350
00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,230
Eric Embry goes,
what did you say?
351
00:18:30,330 --> 00:18:32,370
I said, I don't know
how I'm gonna get home.
352
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:33,666
He said, no, no,
not that, not that.
353
00:18:33,690 --> 00:18:34,970
I don't really care about that.
354
00:18:35,530 --> 00:18:36,490
What else did you say?
355
00:18:36,510 --> 00:18:38,330
I said, all my tires
have been slashed.
356
00:18:38,370 --> 00:18:39,750
He said, all of them?
357
00:18:39,870 --> 00:18:41,350
And I said, yes.
358
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:43,630
He looked at me and said,
you've got good heat, brother.
359
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:54,992
We're always looking for the
next star and we're always looking
360
00:18:54,993 --> 00:18:58,310
to beat the other promotions
to grabbing the next stars.
361
00:18:58,590 --> 00:19:01,108
So when Nick was
generating that type of buzz
362
00:19:01,109 --> 00:19:04,411
in Texas, everybody
in the industry noticed.
363
00:19:11,870 --> 00:19:15,170
Yeah, I've lost
two sets of teeth.
364
00:19:15,171 --> 00:19:19,390
I lost these top ones
in a car accident.
365
00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:24,290
And I was really concerned because I just
started working for WCW and I was worried
366
00:19:24,291 --> 00:19:26,930
that having no teeth was
not going to be a good look.
367
00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:29,904
As soon as I got back to
work in WCW, Jim Ross
368
00:19:30,004 --> 00:19:32,530
took a look at it and
goes, I love the look.
369
00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:35,190
He was a big teddy bear.
370
00:19:35,930 --> 00:19:40,110
Just this great big kid that had a great
attitude, was happy to come to work,
371
00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:42,990
make no money, give
him a hot dog, he's cool.
372
00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:46,250
WCW was a crucial period for me.
373
00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:48,780
It was the number two
wrestling company in the
374
00:19:48,781 --> 00:19:51,751
world and I was essentially
there on a trial basis.
375
00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:55,870
We found out very quickly that Nick was
not a typical pro wrestler who shows up
376
00:19:55,871 --> 00:19:57,751
for work waiting for you
to tell him what to do.
377
00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:59,570
He had ideas.
378
00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:06,630
I started building an audience by
losing and attacking partner after partner.
379
00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:08,310
Well, he's insulting
his partner.
380
00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:09,430
No, he's not!
381
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:11,590
And... what's this?
382
00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:13,830
Typical!
383
00:20:13,910 --> 00:20:17,010
He's gonna run out of partners
soon if he keeps doing this.
384
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:19,190
Kevin Sullivan is
my tag team partner.
385
00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:21,030
He looks for the tag
and I'm reading a book.
386
00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:25,650
Yeah, there it is.
387
00:20:26,290 --> 00:20:27,490
Wait a minute, what's the tag?
388
00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:32,061
I was throwing so
many things at the wall
389
00:20:32,062 --> 00:20:37,171
and not all of it
stuck, but a lot of it did.
390
00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:40,675
I would have gladly
stayed in WCW, but the top
391
00:20:40,676 --> 00:20:43,651
level and creative
didn't care for my style.
392
00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:47,334
So that meant moving
back to Long Island, living
393
00:20:47,335 --> 00:20:50,051
with my parents and doing
the independent circuit.
394
00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:54,950
And the first show that I do is
for Tommy D, my first promoter.
395
00:20:55,230 --> 00:21:01,090
So he has me handing out flyers at
the Raceway in Riverhead, Long Island.
396
00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:10,710
While I'm handing out flyers, I see
the most beautiful woman in my life.
397
00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:13,470
Like, I can't take
my eyes off her.
398
00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:18,670
I had never been to car racing.
399
00:21:18,970 --> 00:21:20,030
I was dreading it.
400
00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:22,070
I mean, it was
not my cup of tea.
401
00:21:22,450 --> 00:21:25,250
And then I saw this
very unusual creature.
402
00:21:25,730 --> 00:21:30,930
Big, strong, hairy guy
signing some autographs.
403
00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:33,390
And I said, hello,
I'm Cactus Jack.
404
00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:34,710
She said, who's Captain Jack?
405
00:21:35,150 --> 00:21:37,530
She was not a fan.
406
00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:41,090
The first thing that I
saw were his eyes.
407
00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:44,850
Then he had all this moppy
hair, which was adorable.
408
00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:46,990
I could see he
was very innocent.
409
00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:51,950
My friends saw us together.
410
00:21:52,830 --> 00:21:56,750
They said, either he's a
drug dealer or he's rich.
411
00:21:58,170 --> 00:22:01,330
That was the woman I
would go on to marry.
412
00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:06,550
When I started seeing his videos,
some of the actions and behavior,
413
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:10,330
I really didn't like, like
being slapped in the face.
414
00:22:10,940 --> 00:22:13,310
She just thought I was
capable of doing more.
415
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,350
That I could be that guy.
416
00:22:15,351 --> 00:22:16,470
At the top of the card.
417
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,171
And from that point
on, every time I did an
418
00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:21,490
independent show, I was
going to steal the show.
419
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:25,690
Battling in the gymnasium, Cactus
throws Eddie onto the bleachers.
420
00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:27,899
I would tear apart these
high school gyms and
421
00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:30,791
leave it looking like a
tornado had gone by.
422
00:22:32,570 --> 00:22:37,630
Word started getting around to the point
now where WCW is looking for credible
423
00:22:37,631 --> 00:22:40,330
heels to work with
their top guy, Sting.
424
00:22:41,385 --> 00:22:42,950
And I get the phone call.
425
00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:45,330
People say, Sting, have you
ever seen anything like that?
426
00:22:45,331 --> 00:22:47,626
Have you ever seen anybody
who acts like they kind of like pain?
427
00:22:47,650 --> 00:22:48,710
And I say, guess what?
428
00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:49,970
Yes!
429
00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:54,790
It came back as Cactus Jack, but
it was a much different character.
430
00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:57,770
And it was mostly a
question of confidence.
431
00:22:58,860 --> 00:22:59,860
Hello, Mommy!
432
00:23:00,370 --> 00:23:05,190
World Championship Wrestling
has just given birth to a monster!
433
00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:08,271
That's got to be the
most bizarre individual I've
434
00:23:08,272 --> 00:23:10,130
ever been around in World
Championship Wrestling.
435
00:23:10,131 --> 00:23:10,610
He's a sociopath.
436
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:11,850
He's a psychopath.
437
00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:15,210
Now you're tapping
into Mick as an artist.
438
00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:19,173
And now Mick had an
opportunity to show everyone
439
00:23:19,174 --> 00:23:22,151
just how ahead of
the game he truly was.
440
00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:27,670
One of you little Stingers,
you watch your step.
441
00:23:27,910 --> 00:23:32,651
Because I'll go up in those stands and I'll
beat your parents up right in front of you.
442
00:23:34,010 --> 00:23:36,090
It was a shot in the arm to him.
443
00:23:37,630 --> 00:23:39,410
It was a career maker for me.
444
00:23:42,370 --> 00:23:45,670
I'd given people so
much as a bad guy.
445
00:23:45,850 --> 00:23:48,718
It was almost like they
could all simultaneously
446
00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:51,750
understand this guy's
doing a lot to entertain us.
447
00:23:51,910 --> 00:23:53,230
And there was a
connection there.
448
00:23:59,670 --> 00:24:02,080
Mick threw himself
around, took crazy bumps,
449
00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:04,191
would do anything
to get a match over.
450
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:07,630
Even to this day, I
don't like stuff like that.
451
00:24:08,970 --> 00:24:11,866
I said, you know, you're not going to
be able to walk when you're 30 years old.
452
00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:12,490
You know what I mean?
453
00:24:12,550 --> 00:24:13,450
Don't do any of that.
454
00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:14,150
You don't need to.
455
00:24:14,151 --> 00:24:15,151
It's not wrestling.
456
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:21,310
Is it hard?
457
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:22,690
Do I respect it?
458
00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:22,950
Yeah.
459
00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:25,670
But that doesn't
make you, you know...
460
00:24:25,671 --> 00:24:28,490
How many tables, everybody's
got Bruno San Martino.
461
00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:31,410
How many tables did
he ever go through?
462
00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:32,550
None.
463
00:24:32,670 --> 00:24:34,030
Did he ever fall off a ladder?
464
00:24:34,170 --> 00:24:35,170
None.
465
00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:36,890
But he's so sensitive.
466
00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:40,270
I went to him one time and I said,
you don't need to do that every night.
467
00:24:41,030 --> 00:24:43,410
Sure, I was sensitive
to that type of criticism.
468
00:24:43,411 --> 00:24:46,670
Because I felt like I knew
what I was capable of doing.
469
00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:49,410
And I didn't feel like I'd
even scratched the surface.
470
00:24:49,650 --> 00:24:51,070
I wanted to prove people wrong.
471
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:57,250
I wanted to prove that I could succeed,
that I could be something special.
472
00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:58,970
There's a cycle
of life in wrestling.
473
00:24:59,090 --> 00:25:02,950
The younger guys throw themselves
around and do crazy things.
474
00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:06,490
And then the older guys who are 35 and
over, who've been through that and feel
475
00:25:06,491 --> 00:25:10,770
it, they kind of like warn the younger
guys, you really, you know, don't do this.
476
00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:12,270
And the young guys never listen.
477
00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:18,130
When I wrote my book, I said,
you're a 300-pound stuntman.
478
00:25:19,670 --> 00:25:21,070
I wanted him to
take it personally.
479
00:25:21,910 --> 00:25:23,610
You know, his wife is beautiful.
480
00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:25,570
The kids are
young and beautiful.
481
00:25:26,410 --> 00:25:29,350
You know, we get hurt enough.
482
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,060
I felt like in Germany, it
was not a sold-out building.
483
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:44,365
And I had seen him take this bump
that he learned from Dory Funk Jr.
484
00:25:44,366 --> 00:25:48,980
, where Dory would get his
foot caught in the ropes, right?
485
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,480
It was a really
good-looking bump.
486
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,300
And Mick now would get his head cut,
you know, as crazy as Mick was, right?
487
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,980
And I told him, I
said, don't do that.
488
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,600
We're in Germany.
489
00:25:58,660 --> 00:25:59,660
Nobody gives a.
490
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,280
You know, we're trying to create
the illusion of hanging by my neck.
491
00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:08,840
And the way we create that illusion is
I'm actually going to hang by my neck.
492
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,350
But on this night, I
couldn't get the ropes up.
493
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:16,870
They were too tight.
494
00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:21,130
And I felt like I
was a fox in a trap.
495
00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:23,710
You know, like, I've got
to get out of this thing.
496
00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:27,890
And when I did, my right
ear did not come with me.
497
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:35,340
Where were you, backstage?
498
00:26:36,050 --> 00:26:36,820
I was watching it, yeah.
499
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,260
I was looking
through the curtain.
500
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,380
What was going
through your head?
501
00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:42,820
Stupid mother.
502
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:45,950
You got nothing to prove.
503
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,840
When I'm on my way to the hospital,
instead of being down about it,
504
00:27:02,225 --> 00:27:05,560
I'm thinking to myself,
imagine the promos I can cut.
505
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,175
Those were the words I
said April 16th, 1994, as the
506
00:27:20,176 --> 00:27:24,300
ambulance pulled into the
hospital in Munich, Germany.
507
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,380
It means, don't forget to
bring my ear in the plastic bag!
508
00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:34,860
Mick's like, okay, it's horrible I lost
my ear, but, you know, me and Vader,
509
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,620
we could have this rivalry that goes for
years and years and years based on this.
510
00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:41,580
And, you know, Eric
Bischoff didn't see that.
511
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,360
Bang, bang!
512
00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:43,380
Stay with us.
513
00:27:43,381 --> 00:27:43,860
We'll be back.
514
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,860
I'm Eric Bischoff
for WCW This Week.
515
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:50,424
His style was a real issue
in WCW because Mick really
516
00:27:50,425 --> 00:27:54,360
wanted to do things that
were just too dangerous.
517
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:59,860
You know, flying off the balcony
out onto a table next to the ring.
518
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,340
Eh, it's not worth it.
519
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,560
He was a liability.
520
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,820
I'd worked too hard to leave my
future in someone else's hands.
521
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:13,660
And so, without consulting my
wife, and with two small children and a
522
00:28:13,661 --> 00:28:16,959
mortgage, I left a six-figure
job to find a place where
523
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,420
my talents would be a
little bit more appreciated.
524
00:28:19,421 --> 00:28:20,421
Yeah!
525
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,620
When I left WCW, I knew there
was wild organizations in Japan.
526
00:28:29,145 --> 00:28:31,956
Some people called them garbage wrestling,
but I didn't think that was appropriate.
527
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:35,020
But blood and guts, yeah,
that was an appropriate moniker.
528
00:28:39,530 --> 00:28:41,610
Ah, man, there were
some small crowds.
529
00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:47,150
While those ropes are being taken down,
barbed wire is being put up in its place.
530
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,590
And for anybody wondering,
like, real barbed wire?
531
00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:50,770
Like, this was Japan.
532
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:51,730
There's stuff.
533
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:52,750
Sticklers for details.
534
00:28:53,290 --> 00:28:56,950
Cactus Jack, I think I saw, I guess
it was Japan, like a death match.
535
00:28:57,210 --> 00:29:00,430
The IWA King of the Death
match is the one tape I had to have.
536
00:29:00,510 --> 00:29:02,572
I wanted to see this
tournament, and I sought it out,
537
00:29:02,592 --> 00:29:05,110
and I got it, and I watched
it, and it was pretty crazy.
538
00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:10,813
I remember seeing tapes
of those matches, too,
539
00:29:10,814 --> 00:29:13,691
and I just couldn't
believe what I was seeing.
540
00:29:13,910 --> 00:29:14,910
They were...
541
00:29:15,370 --> 00:29:16,370
They were different.
542
00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:18,030
Did Colette worry?
543
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:21,730
Did she tell you, just, please don't
go out there and get killed in the ring?
544
00:29:21,731 --> 00:29:22,731
No.
545
00:29:23,650 --> 00:29:31,191
Uh, you do toughen up to that, but I
was always comfortable in his judgment.
546
00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:37,490
It was just like, this guy is
a psychopath, you know?
547
00:29:37,550 --> 00:29:39,410
What is the human
body capable of?
548
00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:44,270
I didn't really care
for all this crazy crap.
549
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:49,730
Look, there's an audience
for slasher movies.
550
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:51,550
There's an audience
for horror movies.
551
00:29:51,551 --> 00:29:54,170
A lot of people
really love that genre.
552
00:29:56,710 --> 00:30:01,130
It's the performance I'm proudest of
because it's where I suffered the most.
553
00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:04,190
I mean, it was almost spiritual.
554
00:30:04,670 --> 00:30:06,810
And the final is
with Terry Funk.
555
00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:09,134
The ring is laced with
real barbed wire, and
556
00:30:09,135 --> 00:30:11,851
then among there,
they've got C4 explosives.
557
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:19,830
When I landed on those
explosives, ah, it felt like a shotgun.
558
00:30:20,010 --> 00:30:20,850
I felt like I'd been shot.
559
00:30:20,851 --> 00:30:23,650
Like, we were both in the
hospital after that match.
560
00:30:27,410 --> 00:30:30,239
I kind of convinced
myself that I did it because
561
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,511
I had a family and
because I had a mortgage.
562
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:39,110
But I took a look in my eye, and I
said, you can't fake that type of joy.
563
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:42,756
Like, there was part of
me that did not mind being
564
00:30:42,757 --> 00:30:45,511
in that environment because
I knew I was good in it.
565
00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:52,270
I was bleeding in so many places that I
don't even remember that I'd been burned.
566
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:56,390
It doesn't even occur to me
until I'm on the plane the next day.
567
00:30:56,610 --> 00:30:59,550
He walks into the
house, sits down.
568
00:30:59,770 --> 00:31:02,710
I said, Mick, I
think there's a fire.
569
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:04,430
Something's burning.
570
00:31:04,650 --> 00:31:05,730
I took off my jacket.
571
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:10,370
I said, it's me, and I
wrestled two days later.
572
00:31:10,770 --> 00:31:14,250
D.D.M., D.D.M.
573
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:16,110
D.D.M., D.D.M.
574
00:31:16,111 --> 00:31:16,870
D .D .M., D.D.M.
575
00:31:16,871 --> 00:31:17,250
D.D.M., D.D.M.
576
00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:17,250
D .D .M., D .D .M.
577
00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:17,250
D .D .M.
578
00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:18,430
D .W .A.
579
00:31:18,431 --> 00:31:20,290
Oh, my God!
580
00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:24,390
ECW was my vision to
completely disrupt the industry.
581
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:28,330
ECW was like a different world
from nationally televised wrestling.
582
00:31:28,570 --> 00:31:29,410
It's a cult thing.
583
00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:33,750
If you were a certain age and you were a
guy mad at life, you're drunk on Saturday
584
00:31:33,751 --> 00:31:36,414
night, and you watch TV
at 2 in the morning, and
585
00:31:36,415 --> 00:31:38,651
ECW was on, it was the
greatest thing in the world.
586
00:31:38,850 --> 00:31:39,850
ECW!
587
00:31:39,970 --> 00:31:40,490
ECW!
588
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:44,197
They developed a very
loyal and niche following
589
00:31:44,198 --> 00:31:46,650
who could not get
enough blood and guts.
590
00:31:46,651 --> 00:31:48,170
He fit luckily well there.
591
00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:49,650
He liked that stuff.
592
00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:54,870
And the ECW
audience loved him for it.
593
00:31:58,790 --> 00:32:02,130
One night, I asked the fans
in Philadelphia for a chair.
594
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,460
That audience, they'd run over you,
spit on you, and just jump back in the car.
595
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Paul Heyman grabs me and
he goes, will you turn heel?
596
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,360
Yeah, sure I will.
597
00:32:30,085 --> 00:32:31,780
All I knew is I needed a reason.
598
00:32:33,635 --> 00:32:41,635
Mick Foley, who sacrifices more of his body
than any other performer at that level.
599
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:45,000
What if we went the other way?
600
00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:50,240
I just thought back to a fan who
had a sign that said, Kane Dewey.
601
00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:51,680
Kane is a verb.
602
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:56,008
To hit someone with a cane,
that's someone being my son Dewey,
603
00:32:56,009 --> 00:32:59,140
because I had been talking about
Dewey in some of my promos.
604
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:03,500
One of the super fans makes
a sign with my permission.
605
00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:04,680
He shows it to me.
606
00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:05,760
Ah, I don't care.
607
00:33:06,225 --> 00:33:12,840
It wasn't until I told my wife about the
sign and saw her visceral reaction to it.
608
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,140
Like, she literally got
sick to her stomach.
609
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,280
And so I used real-life anger
to fuel the best promo of my life.
610
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Cactus, you ready?
611
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Yeah.
612
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:28,180
I'm gonna take you back to a
very deciding point in my life.
613
00:33:28,485 --> 00:33:31,600
When I looked out into the sky, I
looked to that audience, my adoring
614
00:33:31,601 --> 00:33:35,600
crowd, and I saw two simple
words that changed my life.
615
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,720
Kane Dewey.
616
00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:50,460
Somebody had taken the time and the effort
and the thought to make a sign that said,
617
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:52,540
Kane Dewey.
618
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:58,180
Dewey Foley is a
three-year-old boy.
619
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Sons of bitches.
620
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,860
You ripped out my heart.
621
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,720
You took everything I believed in
and you flushed it down the damn toilet.
622
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:10,600
I gotta listen to my little boy.
623
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,500
Every day of my life,
say, Daddy, I miss Atlanta.
624
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,269
And I say, it's too bad, son,
because your dad traded
625
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:22,860
in the Victorian house for
a sweat box in Long Island.
626
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:26,640
Your dad traded in a hundred...
627
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:39,960
thousand dollar contract, guaranteed
money, insurance, respect, to work for a
628
00:34:39,961 --> 00:34:45,360
scumbag who operates out of a
little pissant pawn shop in Philadelphia.
629
00:34:47,860 --> 00:34:48,920
Great promo.
630
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,080
You okay?
631
00:34:50,370 --> 00:34:52,880
I thought... That's
a piss in here, so...
632
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:57,900
Mick got into the psyche
of that ECW audience.
633
00:34:58,915 --> 00:35:03,400
They knew this guy could come in
and deliver the violence and the gore that
634
00:35:03,401 --> 00:35:06,700
they wanted, but he
wouldn't give it to them.
635
00:35:07,060 --> 00:35:10,000
Tonight, we're not
gonna break any tables.
636
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,080
We're not gonna use any chairs.
637
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,480
And we're gonna have one hell of
an Olympic rules wrestling match.
638
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:22,180
The rules of the
NCAA are as followed.
639
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,720
There will be two points
awarded for each takedown.
640
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,800
That was a joke, right?
641
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,760
There will be one point
awarded for each escape.
642
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:34,540
I started pandering to them,
which they hate even more.
643
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:35,900
I'm hardcore.
644
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:37,240
I'm hardcore.
645
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Look.
646
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,880
I can't even wear glasses
because my ear's missing.
647
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,120
I'm hardcore.
648
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,320
That sounds good.
649
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,220
Let me just put this
pen behind my ear.
650
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,000
Whoops.
651
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:47,680
That's when I shaved.
652
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:48,880
Like, how dare you?
653
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:54,380
Happy hardcore
holidays, everybody.
654
00:35:54,381 --> 00:35:56,589
This is Cactus Jack
and the rest of the bullies
655
00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:59,820
here to wish you a happy
holiday hardcore season.
656
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,360
Mommy.
657
00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:01,940
Mommy.
658
00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:02,900
Mommy.
659
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,240
We love you.
660
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:04,820
Mommy.
661
00:36:04,860 --> 00:36:08,680
He did promos on
merry-go-rounds with his daughter.
662
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:10,400
This is extreme.
663
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:15,140
I did get a beautiful
wife by being hardcore.
664
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:15,780
Isn't that right?
665
00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:16,720
Yes, it is.
666
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,880
What am I?
667
00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:19,140
Hardcore.
668
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:21,300
His promo skills came out.
669
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:23,700
His storytelling
ability came out.
670
00:36:23,701 --> 00:36:30,440
And that's what made us go, hmm,
now you can make money with that.
671
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,780
It was always clear to me that
WWE would never want me.
672
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,594
I would call one time every
year to see if there was any
673
00:36:40,595 --> 00:36:43,520
interest, and I would be
dismissed within 30 seconds.
674
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:45,840
Vince McMahon was not a fan.
675
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,380
Vince, what do you think of the blood
and guts Cactus Jack character that did all
676
00:36:51,381 --> 00:36:53,221
those crazy things in
Japan in the first place?
677
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:57,300
I thought it was kind of
degrading to our product.
678
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,660
It didn't have any talent.
679
00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:02,880
And just a déclassé.
680
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,040
I had heard a rumor that the adjective
he used to describe me was sleazy.
681
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Yeah, Vince was
not high on the look.
682
00:37:11,740 --> 00:37:14,580
But I told Vince, I said, you've never
been in the locker room with him.
683
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:16,180
You don't know
what you're missing.
684
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,860
Jim Ross and myself
convinced Vince to just meet him.
685
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,980
If you don't like him, we
don't have to move forward.
686
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,720
When I finally got him to relent about
hiring Mick, he said to me, I want you to
687
00:37:30,721 --> 00:37:32,366
know what it feels
like to get your heart
688
00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:34,440
broken by a talent
that you truly believe in.
689
00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:38,200
Because I'm just telling
you, this ain't gonna work.
690
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:44,000
I'm at the WWE offices
to meet with Mr. McMahon.
691
00:37:44,495 --> 00:37:46,668
And they've got this
sketch, an artist's rendering
692
00:37:46,669 --> 00:37:49,460
of a guy who looks to
be wearing an iron mask.
693
00:37:50,330 --> 00:37:51,840
And I said, but
that's taking away.
694
00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:55,080
Like, my facial expressions,
which are a strong point.
695
00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:56,820
He's like, no, we're
not gonna hide them.
696
00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:58,480
We're gonna accentuate them.
697
00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:00,430
He said, what do you think, pal?
698
00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:02,660
And I think it's the worst
thing I've ever heard.
699
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
I talk it over with
my wife for hours.
700
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:08,560
We both knew my body
had only so many years left.
701
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,771
And we agreed, get in,
make some money, save
702
00:38:11,772 --> 00:38:15,381
some money, and try to
retire by the time I'm 35.
703
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:31,490
Oh, that's an original.
704
00:38:33,830 --> 00:38:34,830
Oh, yeah.
705
00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:36,790
Dismash.
706
00:38:36,791 --> 00:38:38,391
The best thing that
ever happened to me.
707
00:38:39,820 --> 00:38:40,820
Merry Christmas, Noel.
708
00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:42,050
Merry Christmas.
709
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:43,970
Merry Christmas, Dewey.
710
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:44,670
Merry Christmas.
711
00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:46,710
Mickey, look what
Dewey has for you.
712
00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:48,130
Oh!
713
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:51,470
I do have it on upside
down, but... I do?
714
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:52,010
Yeah.
715
00:38:52,210 --> 00:38:53,310
I can get you two.
716
00:38:53,590 --> 00:38:54,590
Ah!
717
00:38:55,190 --> 00:39:01,590
Mitt had this mankind idea that
this is the representation of mankind.
718
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,610
And you get these
philosophical ideas.
719
00:39:04,611 --> 00:39:06,929
These philosophical
thoughts of this crazy
720
00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:09,630
man in a cell whose
only friend's a pet rat.
721
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:15,750
And it was kind of a horror story
presentation in the beginning.
722
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:18,810
Um, but in a fun way.
723
00:39:18,910 --> 00:39:22,750
Not as violent as I think
what Mick was used to.
724
00:39:22,990 --> 00:39:24,870
You understand me,
don't you, George?
725
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:29,910
You understand that
mankind is in agony!
726
00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:32,530
Mommy!
727
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:35,830
Leave the light on!
728
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:40,190
I never heard of Cactus Jack
when I was a kid growing up.
729
00:39:40,270 --> 00:39:41,270
I mean, I loved mankind.
730
00:39:41,570 --> 00:39:45,850
It was sort of like a
lost soul in a sense.
731
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:48,610
As an 11-year-old, I was like,
man, this guy's freaking crazy.
732
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:53,410
You know, to see this guy in this crazy
mess actually pulling his own hair out.
733
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,230
I mean, didn't he really
pull his hair out, right?
734
00:39:56,410 --> 00:39:58,530
To me, it always reminded
me of Hannibal Lecter.
735
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,890
You like some Freddy Krueger?
736
00:39:59,891 --> 00:40:00,330
I like Freddy Krueger vibes.
737
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:01,860
I'm like, man, this is scary.
738
00:40:02,830 --> 00:40:03,830
That is a...
739
00:40:05,530 --> 00:40:07,250
Wait a minute, wait
a minute, look at that!
740
00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:08,930
Look!
741
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:13,230
He's got his fingers jammed
down his... down his throat!
742
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:15,130
Down his esophagus!
743
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:16,670
Mankind!
744
00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:18,610
Oh.
745
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:24,713
People visiting
backstage, like, you know,
746
00:40:24,714 --> 00:40:26,870
poor Make-A-Wish
children and their families.
747
00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:28,990
I'd go to say hello and
these children would run.
748
00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:39,210
I was always high on Mick, and I
always thought, okay, that's a perfect type
749
00:40:40,110 --> 00:40:41,890
character for the Undertaker.
750
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:44,470
Someone that kind of can
be on the same wavelength.
751
00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:46,310
I don't hate you, Undertaker.
752
00:40:46,930 --> 00:40:48,130
I love you.
753
00:40:49,070 --> 00:40:51,030
Like a child loves a pet.
754
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:53,410
Roll over, Undertaker!
755
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:55,450
Heel boy!
756
00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:59,150
Best of all, I did!
757
00:40:59,770 --> 00:41:02,461
No one had ever really
pushed The Undertaker
758
00:41:02,462 --> 00:41:05,371
to the limits in the
way that Mankind did.
759
00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:13,290
Such an interesting dynamic and such cool
chemistry, and Undertaker was able to show
760
00:41:13,291 --> 00:41:15,166
some vulnerability which
he'd never shown before.
761
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:17,890
I mean, we had very live
matches, boiler room brawls.
762
00:41:18,010 --> 00:41:20,085
You know, while you're in
the middle of it, you're just
763
00:41:20,086 --> 00:41:23,270
thinking, this is really good
stuff that no one else is doing.
764
00:41:24,350 --> 00:41:28,690
Obviously, such a huge part of my
career and my history is tied to Mankind.
765
00:41:29,110 --> 00:41:32,507
We shot vignettes on
this one night in the middle
766
00:41:32,508 --> 00:41:35,490
of a cemetery and a
lightning storm starts.
767
00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:37,390
And you will never...
768
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:39,950
rest...
769
00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:41,290
in peace.
770
00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:45,970
Oh, well,.
771
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:48,730
Jeez.
772
00:41:50,450 --> 00:41:51,630
Man, a lot.
773
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:54,750
And Mick says,
God, it's raining.
774
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:56,030
This is great!
775
00:41:57,290 --> 00:42:01,630
He was covered head
to toe in mud and muck.
776
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:03,650
Mick could adapt to anything.
777
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:05,850
Not everybody could
have pulled that off.
778
00:42:06,945 --> 00:42:11,070
Once Mick got in the fold, and he had time
to interact with a lot of the producers,
779
00:42:11,735 --> 00:42:15,090
the TV people, we started realizing
we got a diamond in the rough here.
780
00:42:15,490 --> 00:42:18,970
A lot of people were surprised at the
fact of, again, how articulate he was and
781
00:42:18,971 --> 00:42:24,410
thoughtful and how well-spoken he
was, because just from the sheer stuff that
782
00:42:24,411 --> 00:42:27,770
they had seen, you thought
that this guy was masochistic.
783
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:31,410
I mean, he was, but, you know,
there was all another side of him.
784
00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:32,550
Mick is charming.
785
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,130
Uh, and, um...
786
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:36,050
and, um...
787
00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:36,970
gregarious.
788
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:38,030
He's just a different cat.
789
00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:40,870
He's always up-spirited and
in a good mood, you know.
790
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:44,270
I don't know how he's done
all these years without drinking.
791
00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:45,700
He doesn't drink, you know.
792
00:42:46,245 --> 00:42:47,490
That's really upsetting.
793
00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:53,450
Everybody in the locker room
knew that he wasn't a party guy.
794
00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:55,190
He was not a go-out guy.
795
00:42:55,470 --> 00:42:56,530
He was a family guy.
796
00:42:56,830 --> 00:43:01,030
I think it was accepted that I was, uh,
a guy that, uh, missed data and did a
797
00:43:01,031 --> 00:43:04,230
lot of reading, visited
museums, battlefields.
798
00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:07,610
The guys would be going out
to strip bars, and he would be
799
00:43:07,611 --> 00:43:11,550
running, trying to catch the last
flight and be home for the kids.
800
00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:15,630
I felt pretty good about having
my priorities in the right order.
801
00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:18,670
I was trying to be the best
dad I could possibly be.
802
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:22,310
And the Undertaker,
look at this!
803
00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:23,370
Look at this!
804
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,996
I knew that Mick could
come in and hit in the
805
00:43:34,997 --> 00:43:37,060
top of the line, uh,
against the Undertaker.
806
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,520
But what's gonna happen to Mick
after that Undertaker feud ends?
807
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,700
I thought at that time Mick would be still
contributing, still earning a good living,
808
00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:48,660
but I never envisioned the Hall
of Fame and all this other success.
809
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,978
Mick was always
offended by people's
810
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:53,520
expectations, because
they were always too low.
811
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,740
Inside, as humble as Mick could
be, Mick knew how great he was.
812
00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:03,320
So if you tell Mick Foley, we have
15 seconds of television time for you,
813
00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:06,880
and his performance is so great, the
next week you're giving him a minute,
814
00:44:07,020 --> 00:44:10,880
and the next week you're giving him three
minutes, and the next week you're going to
815
00:44:10,881 --> 00:44:12,641
him and saying, how
much time would you like?
816
00:44:12,980 --> 00:44:15,843
I think it was understood
and appreciated that
817
00:44:15,844 --> 00:44:19,241
I could work with almost
anybody on that card.
818
00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:22,660
One of my favorite opponents
was Shawn Michaels.
819
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,280
We'd never had a match until we
main-evented a pay-per-view in 1996.
820
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,620
I'd never worked with Mick, and you're
wondering how it's gonna go, because now
821
00:44:31,621 --> 00:44:35,640
I'm sort of known as the real finesse
worker, and that wasn't Mick's style.
822
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,788
What I remember more
than anything was the different
823
00:44:39,789 --> 00:44:42,641
kind of creativity that
Mick brought to the table.
824
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:46,310
There were things that
we did in this match that
825
00:44:46,330 --> 00:44:49,000
a WWE crowd had not seen,
had not been exposed to.
826
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,480
The end of the night,
and Shawn's in the locker
827
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,820
room, Mick's in the locker
room, and they're talking.
828
00:44:59,140 --> 00:45:01,860
Shawn says, is this always
how you pictured yourself?
829
00:45:02,370 --> 00:45:03,520
This dark character?
830
00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:05,140
I laughed.
831
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:07,140
I said, no, actually,
I wanted to be you.
832
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,200
And he looks at me quizzically,
and I said, no, no, no, not Shawn
833
00:45:11,201 --> 00:45:16,320
Michaels, but I wanted to be the guy who
fans adored, who women flocked around,
834
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,160
who felt that degree of love.
835
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,860
I can remember him, you know, finishing
with him, but of course it didn't work out
836
00:45:21,861 --> 00:45:23,821
that way, because, you
know, I ended up like this.
837
00:45:23,860 --> 00:45:27,420
And then I told him I actually had this
character, Dude Love, that I'd created,
838
00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:31,100
and it turns out that Bruce Prichard
was listening to the conversation.
839
00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:33,980
And as he's doing it, I'm
laughing, I'm going to do this.
840
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,540
I said, oh, my
God, that's great.
841
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:36,700
I said, I'd love to see that.
842
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,940
He goes, I've got tape.
843
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:42,640
Bring me this tape.
844
00:45:44,905 --> 00:45:46,145
We're here for only one reason.
845
00:45:46,220 --> 00:45:47,300
One reason only.
846
00:45:49,235 --> 00:45:50,420
Fame, honor, fortune.
847
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,860
Mr. McMahon came to me with the
idea of doing these in-depth interviews.
848
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,360
You see, when I was a kid, I
played cowboys and Indians.
849
00:45:59,420 --> 00:46:00,600
Now, who were the good guys?
850
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:06,600
The cowboys coming over the hill to
rape, pillage innocent women and children.
851
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,620
I was always the Indian Jimmy.
852
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,980
I always stood for the underdog.
853
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:11,440
It was all there.
854
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,904
Mick jumping off the
roof, hitchhiking to see
855
00:46:14,905 --> 00:46:18,401
Jimmy Snuka, the dream
of becoming Dude Love.
856
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,020
Mankind was the character in the
chair, but suddenly it wasn't just Mankind.
857
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:24,300
It was now Mick Foley.
858
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,260
I never wanted
to be Cactus Jack.
859
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,280
I figured, here is a horrible
name for a horrible wrestler.
860
00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:36,615
By golly, as soon as
I get the ability, then
861
00:46:36,616 --> 00:46:40,761
I'll get that heart-shaped
tattoo on my chest.
862
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,340
I'll put those earrings in,
and I'm going to get the girls.
863
00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:49,540
And it never really worked
out the way it did it, Jimmy.
864
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,380
Not quite.
865
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,900
I was like, man, this guy is
incredible, and I want to learn more.
866
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,680
You know what you tell the
people week in and week out?
867
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,920
You say, look at Mankind.
868
00:47:00,340 --> 00:47:02,240
I don't even know
if he feels pain.
869
00:47:02,241 --> 00:47:04,900
Or maybe he likes pain.
870
00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:09,220
But you see, I feel just
like every other person!
871
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:10,860
You see that?
872
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:12,860
It hurts!
873
00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:16,280
Is it when I can't get up?
874
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,940
When my little boy says, Denny, I
want to play ball, and I can't do it?
875
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,820
Is that where the fun starts?
876
00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:28,607
Is it where a doctor
injects a 12-inch needle into
877
00:47:28,608 --> 00:47:32,000
the discs in my spine so I
can wrestle one more day?
878
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:33,460
One day!
879
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:35,360
Vince thought it was great.
880
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,680
Because it was real.
881
00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:42,440
I'd been told when I came in that you
could never really get to the top of WWE
882
00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:45,780
until Mr. McMahon
personally became a fan.
883
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:50,480
And in my opinion, he had not
personally become a fan until that night.
884
00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:52,930
Mick always had that
connection with the audience.
885
00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:55,240
And I really never saw
it before he came here.
886
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:57,140
I thought, we're never
gonna bring that guy in.
887
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:58,020
But he does.
888
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,180
He has a genuine connection.
889
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,440
And... not many
people have that.
890
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:11,880
Oh, this appears to be one of
the original Dude Love shirts.
891
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,100
Yes.
892
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:17,100
Oh, that would fetch about
$500 on eBay these days.
893
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,120
I'm not kidding.
894
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,143
This was when Vince
saw the potential to grant
895
00:48:23,144 --> 00:48:27,081
this wish and allow
me to live out my dream.
896
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:28,180
Ow!
897
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Steve-O!
898
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Looks like you could
use a little help, my man.
899
00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:33,640
Like maybe a tag-team partner?
900
00:48:33,641 --> 00:48:34,800
What's the matter?
901
00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:36,040
Don't you recognize me?
902
00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:40,500
Now, I don't blame you for not teaming
up with that mutilated freak, Mankind.
903
00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:45,020
But you never said nothing about teaming
up with the hippest cat in the land.
904
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:45,880
Steve-O!
905
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Baby!
906
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,520
It's me, Dude Love!
907
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,060
And I am coming to save the day!
908
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,100
Oh, have mercy!
909
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,240
I remember him
practicing it backstage.
910
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:03,580
And I was just, like,
shaking my head.
911
00:49:03,581 --> 00:49:05,480
As he was in his tie-dyed stuff.
912
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,560
And I was like, this is the
guy that I went to war with?
913
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,360
Dude Love was
my personal favorite.
914
00:49:15,580 --> 00:49:17,500
Just because it
showed Mick's range.
915
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,380
Now I just gotta try to explain
this stuff to my wife, right?
916
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:29,800
No, it just felt
so good in there.
917
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:32,741
I didn't, you know... It would have
been nicer if they were your kisses.
918
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:35,860
Yeah, Dude got Steve
to break character.
919
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,216
We were on a
couple of occasions.
920
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:39,280
I don't think Mick ever
broke me on on-air stuff.
921
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,413
I think the one time when
him and Vince were dancing
922
00:49:42,414 --> 00:49:44,881
on the stage, I kind of
let a little bit of smile out.
923
00:49:45,410 --> 00:49:46,640
It made people feel good.
924
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,840
That's what Mr. McMahon
really liked about it.
925
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,740
He said, Dude Love
makes people feel good.
926
00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:57,080
Now, Mick Foley is appearing sometimes on
the same show as Mankind and as Dude Love.
927
00:49:57,380 --> 00:49:59,536
You know, I remember the
movie Sybil way back in the day.
928
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,220
It was almost like
split personalities.
929
00:50:01,890 --> 00:50:04,740
Now, Dude Love, you are not me.
930
00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:07,420
You're not even you, you idiot.
931
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,420
You thought you'd seen the three faces
of Foley, but there was that one guy left.
932
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:17,200
As much as I've dreamed about destroying
Hunter Hearst Helmsley, I know you have.
933
00:50:17,260 --> 00:50:20,960
as very horrible things as I'd
like to do to him, I know you can.
934
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:23,180
I know someone who
dreams about him even more.
935
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:26,000
Captain's Jack is back.
936
00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:28,580
And Mrs. Foley's little boy.
937
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,840
Bye-bye.
938
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:30,220
Bye-bye.
939
00:50:30,221 --> 00:50:31,540
Bye-bye.
940
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,220
The garden just came unglued.
941
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,140
In my mind, I'm thinking about Mr. McMahon
and I'm thinking, I told you so.
942
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,220
See how smart Mick is.
943
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,320
That means he had three
different action figures.
944
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:54,760
Mrs. Foley's baby boy, no dummy.
945
00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,960
Undertaker versus Mankind.
946
00:51:04,180 --> 00:51:04,800
Hell in a Cell.
947
00:51:04,801 --> 00:51:09,112
It's one of the most
surreal and real professional
948
00:51:09,113 --> 00:51:11,940
wrestling matches
that you've ever seen.
949
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Mick would have
his pay-per-views.
950
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,580
My mother would say, hey,
just give me the videotape.
951
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:19,780
And right after Hell in a Cell was
over, I called her up and I was like,
952
00:51:20,340 --> 00:51:23,140
trust me when I tell you, you
don't want to see this match.
953
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,560
I've been involved in so many Hell in
a Cell matches, but I think most people,
954
00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:31,971
when they think of
Hell in a Cell, they think
955
00:51:31,972 --> 00:51:34,780
of Mick Foley and the
bumps that he took there.
956
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:39,700
I've had kids come up to me and talk
about it that weren't even born in 1998.
957
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:43,380
It's taken on a life of its own.
958
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:03,910
Mick had kind of, I don't
want to say hit the wall.
959
00:52:04,955 --> 00:52:06,155
That might be a little strong.
960
00:52:06,730 --> 00:52:08,330
But he wasn't setting
the world on fire.
961
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:11,750
And the company wasn't going
out of its way to feature him.
962
00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:15,410
Honestly, I felt like my
character had plateaued.
963
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:20,030
We had asked an awful lot from the
audience to accept that I could go from
964
00:52:20,031 --> 00:52:25,690
being mankind to dude love, to
Cactus Jack, to all three simultaneously,
965
00:52:26,290 --> 00:52:28,969
to heel Cactus Jack,
to corporate dude love,
966
00:52:28,970 --> 00:52:32,491
and now he's back to
being corporate mankind.
967
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:35,130
Talent can get inside
their own head a lot.
968
00:52:35,785 --> 00:52:41,369
You're not hearing the same
volume of reaction, and it's
969
00:52:41,370 --> 00:52:44,590
not exactly what you think
it should be every night.
970
00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:46,370
That'll mess with your head.
971
00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:48,490
You know, Mick
was very concerned.
972
00:52:48,491 --> 00:52:51,570
Because Shawn Michaels and
I had had the first hell in the cell.
973
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:54,770
It was a really good match.
974
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560
And Mick's like, well, you got
to do something bigger than that.
975
00:52:57,710 --> 00:53:01,450
He says, what do you think about
throwing me off the top of the cell?
976
00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:02,830
I was like, no, you're crazy.
977
00:53:03,530 --> 00:53:04,610
Didn't want any part of it.
978
00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:06,150
For two weeks, I asked him.
979
00:53:06,210 --> 00:53:08,390
Every night for two weeks,
he would shoot that down.
980
00:53:08,730 --> 00:53:10,110
And he was adamant.
981
00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:12,170
Like, no, I think
it'll be great.
982
00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:12,990
I think I can do it.
983
00:53:13,010 --> 00:53:14,010
Well, I think.
984
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:16,570
He just looked at me
and said, I'll think about it.
985
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,520
What do you
remember from that day?
986
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:24,570
It's really weird, because I don't
remember my childhood at all.
987
00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:29,130
Like, I remember little pieces here
and there, like hanging out with my dad.
988
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:31,590
But I don't remember
anything wrestling.
989
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:35,730
Part of me thinks I
blocked that out of my life.
990
00:53:36,010 --> 00:53:37,250
I remember the day pretty well.
991
00:53:37,470 --> 00:53:38,330
It's kind of crazy.
992
00:53:38,490 --> 00:53:40,326
I'm six years old, and
Noelle's four years old.
993
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:41,745
And we get a call from
my dad saying, just so
994
00:53:41,746 --> 00:53:44,191
you know, tonight it's
going to be pretty bad.
995
00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:00,780
I'm just standing there.
996
00:54:00,781 --> 00:54:01,956
I'm sitting there at
the top of the cell.
997
00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:04,760
In my head, it's
just, it's an eternity.
998
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,520
Like, Mick, move.
999
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,460
It's over.
1000
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:16,580
That cage is 16 feet from here.
1001
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:21,110
Everyone was freaked
out, including me.
1002
00:54:21,450 --> 00:54:22,850
This was too far.
1003
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:25,251
It was like, wait a
minute, you've set
1004
00:54:25,263 --> 00:54:27,930
yourself on fire in Japan
or whatever you did.
1005
00:54:28,110 --> 00:54:31,130
But this was more
over on my watch.
1006
00:54:31,450 --> 00:54:34,010
Look at the raise of the cage,
and the Undertaker's still on top.
1007
00:54:34,450 --> 00:54:36,570
Well, I think they've
raised the cage somewhat.
1008
00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:37,230
Oh, OK.
1009
00:54:37,231 --> 00:54:39,670
So that we can get the
EMTs there with a stretcher.
1010
00:54:39,830 --> 00:54:42,550
We kind of thought,
like, all right, that's good.
1011
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:43,630
The worst part is over.
1012
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:48,890
As quickly and as unusually as
this match started, it has ended.
1013
00:54:50,930 --> 00:54:54,730
I remember being in the back going,
oh, my God, I'm going down there.
1014
00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:56,770
You OK?
1015
00:54:58,530 --> 00:54:59,530
Yeah, I'm fine.
1016
00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:01,210
I'm good.
1017
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:04,910
You don't look good.
1018
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:05,790
That was a pretty ugly bump.
1019
00:55:05,791 --> 00:55:06,450
No, no, no, no.
1020
00:55:06,570 --> 00:55:07,130
I'm fine.
1021
00:55:07,310 --> 00:55:08,310
I got it.
1022
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:10,750
Continued on in the match.
1023
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,185
I was walking around backstage
and trying to get ready for
1024
00:55:28,186 --> 00:55:31,160
my match, and I'm hearing
this crowd go absolutely crazy.
1025
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,320
And then I wander by the monitor to
see what everybody's watching, and I'm
1026
00:55:34,321 --> 00:55:37,400
thinking, I don't think
we can follow this.
1027
00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:41,620
The cage is attached just like
a chain-link fence in your yard.
1028
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:45,760
They had, like, metal twisteds
that secured the actual mesh.
1029
00:55:45,761 --> 00:55:46,980
To the pole.
1030
00:55:48,340 --> 00:55:50,675
If you took a step or
you pushed off to throw
1031
00:55:50,676 --> 00:55:53,961
a punch, you could
hear these twists flying.
1032
00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:58,520
You know, they were... And I
1033
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:11,980
really believed that.
1034
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:14,740
I mean, that was not the
commentator in me coming out.
1035
00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:19,320
That was just Jerry Lawler talking to
Jim Ross, you know, saying, he's dead.
1036
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,920
Well, somebody
stop the damn match!
1037
00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:23,460
And that's enough!
1038
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,020
I thought he had
planned this whole thing.
1039
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,200
I was cursed.
1040
00:56:28,201 --> 00:56:30,340
I was cursing
and yelling at him.
1041
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:33,380
I remember her
screaming and just...
1042
00:56:33,381 --> 00:56:35,541
I don't think she knew that
that part was gonna happen.
1043
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:41,020
The idea was that Undertaker
would chokeslam Mick.
1044
00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:43,180
And the cage
would start to give.
1045
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:45,040
And it would start to sag.
1046
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,540
But Mick went through that
damn cage like it was nothing.
1047
00:56:52,780 --> 00:56:54,400
That wasn't the
worst part of it.
1048
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:56,800
The worst part of it was
on the cage was a chair.
1049
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,320
That came down after Mick.
1050
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,100
And hit Mick right in the face.
1051
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,840
Oh my.
1052
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:13,060
He looks up and all of a sudden I realized
his tooth is coming out of his nose.
1053
00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:15,540
It looks like a
booger's in his nose.
1054
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,600
But it's his tooth that
is stuck out of his nose.
1055
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:19,660
And he's laughing.
1056
00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:21,580
Falling through the
cage backwards.
1057
00:57:21,820 --> 00:57:23,440
Knocking his teeth
through his lip.
1058
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:25,980
I mean, knowing our history
and what I've said to him.
1059
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,640
I thought, he
loves the business.
1060
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,200
And that was my resolve.
1061
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,380
He just loves the business.
1062
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,980
You know, Mick, man.
1063
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:35,280
I mean, he's the
king of punishment.
1064
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,720
It seemed like he's okay to me.
1065
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:38,000
I mean, he was up.
1066
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,480
You know.
1067
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,720
But Mick's Mick.
1068
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,200
I mean, that guy's
tough as nails.
1069
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,700
You know, he's
obviously not all there.
1070
00:57:46,220 --> 00:57:47,220
Because I'm hitting him.
1071
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,620
And I'm saying,
Mick, just stay down.
1072
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:51,740
But he had to get
to those thumbtacks.
1073
00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:54,240
Some sort of bag or something.
1074
00:57:54,940 --> 00:57:55,940
He's got a man.
1075
00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:59,720
Oh, gosh.
1076
00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:01,060
What is that?
1077
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,520
Thumbtacks.
1078
00:58:02,660 --> 00:58:03,660
Uh-uh.
1079
00:58:10,090 --> 00:58:11,010
It's funny now.
1080
00:58:11,110 --> 00:58:12,470
But I'm thinking at the time.
1081
00:58:12,510 --> 00:58:16,010
I'm like, I've thrown you
off the top of this thing.
1082
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:18,450
I've thrown you
through this thing.
1083
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:22,710
And, I mean, there's nothing
else that you need to give, Mick.
1084
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:23,390
No!
1085
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:24,670
Oh, God!
1086
00:58:31,490 --> 00:58:33,010
And there's the pinstripe!
1087
00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:41,920
I went into the match.
1088
00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:42,980
I had a broken ankle.
1089
00:58:43,860 --> 00:58:45,920
And I remember him asking me.
1090
00:58:47,005 --> 00:58:48,040
How I was.
1091
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,400
And I was...
1092
00:58:49,860 --> 00:58:50,920
Are you kidding me?
1093
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,120
Seriously.
1094
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,980
Yeah, I got a broken ankle.
1095
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:55,920
It's not a big deal, dude.
1096
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,020
You've just about broke
your neck and your back.
1097
00:58:58,180 --> 00:59:01,600
And you've got about 150
tacks stuck in you at the moment.
1098
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,960
I wasn't done for the night
when I finished with the match.
1099
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,900
I came hobbling out to
interfere in the main event.
1100
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,400
And almost the entire crowd, instead
of being mad at me, was just, like,
1101
00:59:16,401 --> 00:59:18,840
collectively saying, Son, don't
you think you've had enough?
1102
00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:21,660
I was banged up, for sure.
1103
00:59:22,180 --> 00:59:23,920
My shoulder was dislocated.
1104
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,420
My jaw was dislocated.
1105
00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:28,160
I had 14 stitches
underneath my lip.
1106
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,945
Vince walked in, and he said,
Mick, you have no idea how
1107
00:59:32,946 --> 00:59:35,461
much I appreciate what you've
just done for this company.
1108
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:38,260
But I never want to see
anything like that again.
1109
00:59:39,940 --> 00:59:40,940
Hi!
1110
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,020
You two nut jobs!
1111
00:59:44,420 --> 00:59:45,780
What is your favorite match?
1112
00:59:45,781 --> 00:59:47,461
Favorite memory of
your dad as a wrestler?
1113
00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:50,060
Favorite memory is when
he was getting hurt the least.
1114
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:53,120
We're two little kids
watching our dad get his...
1115
00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:55,040
just get beat up.
1116
00:59:56,940 --> 00:59:59,820
All I could think about was, I
hope he's gonna be all right.
1117
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:01,840
I hope it's not
too bad this time.
1118
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:04,280
I hope he makes it
back home in one piece.
1119
01:00:07,420 --> 01:00:11,540
He would tell us this was his job, to
outdo what the person before you just
1120
01:00:11,541 --> 01:00:13,852
did and to make sure
that when people go home,
1121
01:00:13,853 --> 01:00:16,761
they talk about what
you did with your match.
1122
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:19,060
But he's paying for it now.
1123
01:00:22,180 --> 01:00:25,820
I found myself struggling in
the aftermath of Hell in a Cell.
1124
01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:29,040
That connection
wasn't there yet.
1125
01:00:29,470 --> 01:00:33,780
But if you'd said, this Mankind
character is missing something, what is it?
1126
01:00:33,860 --> 01:00:37,000
Not one person in a million
would have said, sock puppet.
1127
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,620
Mr. Socko actually comes
from very humble origins.
1128
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,880
I was heading out the door to
visit Mr. McMahon at the hospital.
1129
01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:52,200
He was hooked up to a heart monitor
and a respirator for a bruised ankle.
1130
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,400
Because that's the
way we roll in WWE.
1131
01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:58,221
And all I knew is I
had a selection of gifts
1132
01:00:58,222 --> 01:01:00,580
that had to get me
thrown out of his room.
1133
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:02,060
Vince, it's me.
1134
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,360
I saw what happened and I felt really
bad, so I brought you some presents.
1135
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,760
Take ahold of these.
1136
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,800
Weren't they colorful?
1137
01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:13,060
I had a box of chocolates
that was largely eaten.
1138
01:01:13,061 --> 01:01:15,240
I had a birthday party
clown named Yerple.
1139
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,190
They were filming the
stuff with the nurse, and me
1140
01:01:18,191 --> 01:01:20,501
and Mick were crammed
in a little bitty bathroom.
1141
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,380
And he pulls out this sock
and he puts his hand through it.
1142
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:26,960
And I said, you
gotta be kidding me.
1143
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Weren't two grown men
laughing our asses off?
1144
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:32,700
What the hell are you doing?
1145
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,460
Mr. Socko!
1146
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:37,580
Say hello to Mr. Socko!
1147
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,768
Mr. Socko knows you've
been feeling mighty bad,
1148
01:01:40,769 --> 01:01:44,421
so he's gonna give
your boo-boo a big kiss.
1149
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,580
Hey, hey, ah!
1150
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:48,240
No, Mick, please.
1151
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,600
Please, just please.
1152
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,720
Mr. Socko!
1153
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,620
I wasn't a huge
fan until Mr. Socko.
1154
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,160
Like, when Mr. Socko came, it
was like, oh, I'm totally into this guy.
1155
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,920
This guy's great.
1156
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,600
I love me some Mr. Socko.
1157
01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:03,700
I don't know!
1158
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:04,900
Why?
1159
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,960
Just because, like, the way
he was drawing on there.
1160
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,160
Like...
1161
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:12,920
Mr. Socko just
felt like, just...
1162
01:02:13,060 --> 01:02:14,300
just innocence.
1163
01:02:14,660 --> 01:02:17,520
Vince Russo, the writer, comes up
to me, he's, bro, you got the sock?
1164
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,640
I said, I don't know.
1165
01:02:20,140 --> 01:02:20,540
Why?
1166
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,100
He goes, they're
chanting for him.
1167
01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:24,380
They've got signs out there.
1168
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:25,760
What you doing here?
1169
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:27,380
I ain't kinda taking
that shoe off.
1170
01:02:28,180 --> 01:02:31,429
And luckily, I had a
finishing move that was
1171
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:33,940
tailor-made for the
use of a sock puppet.
1172
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:34,920
It may be!
1173
01:02:35,140 --> 01:02:36,140
No!
1174
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,060
He would, like, pull it from
different areas in his body.
1175
01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:45,020
And there it is!
1176
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:52,380
Mick is not the most coordinated guy,
so when he comes and puts that thing in,
1177
01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:54,394
man, it would, like, hit
you in the side of the
1178
01:02:54,395 --> 01:02:56,580
face and this way and
this way and up your nose.
1179
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,720
It's disgusting.
1180
01:02:57,860 --> 01:03:00,216
What, you didn't like a
sock stuck in your mouth
1181
01:03:00,217 --> 01:03:03,081
that had been sitting in
someone's sweaty groin?
1182
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:04,910
It was, uh...
1183
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,260
You know, it was, um...
1184
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,280
It's not the best thing that's
ever been put in my mouth.
1185
01:03:11,765 --> 01:03:16,040
The thing that Mr. Socko did was allow
Mick Foley to sort of cross over to the
1186
01:03:16,041 --> 01:03:16,720
other side and go over
into the mainstream.
1187
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:17,820
There's Socko.
1188
01:03:17,860 --> 01:03:19,160
I have Mr. Socko.
1189
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,840
Chef Goyardy, take two.
1190
01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:24,640
It's the perfect
ravioli for all mankind.
1191
01:03:25,455 --> 01:03:28,144
It also just exposed
that Mick Foley was
1192
01:03:28,156 --> 01:03:31,121
just an immensely
likable, entertaining guy.
1193
01:03:31,230 --> 01:03:32,240
Hello, Mr. Socko.
1194
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,500
How are you, Carson?
1195
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,400
You know what I don't understand is about
800 teenage girls chanting your name and
1196
01:03:38,401 --> 01:03:41,520
I've got about three sweaty
fat guys with mankind signs.
1197
01:03:42,220 --> 01:03:45,360
That sock puppet opened
up so many doors for me.
1198
01:03:45,361 --> 01:03:47,700
He started transcending
the business.
1199
01:03:47,860 --> 01:03:49,416
Now he's getting more
and more out there.
1200
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,440
He's now an author.
1201
01:03:51,005 --> 01:03:52,960
I got the chance
to write my memoir.
1202
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,940
I just started writing
in a yellow legal pad.
1203
01:03:56,140 --> 01:03:57,580
I didn't know how
to use a computer.
1204
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,179
I went into the dressing
room and I asked the guys,
1205
01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:02,380
hey, anyone want to hear
this story I'm working on?
1206
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:05,500
And all of a sudden, I had an
audience, and they were responding.
1207
01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:11,150
Uh...
1208
01:04:11,630 --> 01:04:12,730
He's very sweet.
1209
01:04:12,850 --> 01:04:14,370
Yeah, he's real sweet.
1210
01:04:14,850 --> 01:04:17,790
Hit number one,
and that was wild.
1211
01:04:17,791 --> 01:04:22,610
Like, wow, the New York Times has a pro
wrestling book at the top of its charts.
1212
01:04:23,215 --> 01:04:27,490
I think that the book forced those outside
of the business who read it and gave it a
1213
01:04:27,491 --> 01:04:32,010
chance to admit, oh, hey, man,
these just aren't a bunch of dumb oafs.
1214
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:39,303
People like me don't
reach the peak, we don't
1215
01:04:39,304 --> 01:04:43,400
reach the summit, the
scale, the pinnacle...
1216
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:45,620
until we do.
1217
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,620
He had ascended so much and
he had so much of the audience.
1218
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,980
Rooting for him.
1219
01:04:51,060 --> 01:04:55,200
That it was the right timing where
Mick Foley became the champion.
1220
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:29,160
We're talking about a deafening
roar, unlike anything I've experienced.
1221
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,900
It's so loud, you
can barely think.
1222
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:35,211
Like, back at home
in Chicago, it felt like,
1223
01:05:35,212 --> 01:05:37,821
like, the Bulls won
the NBA championship.
1224
01:05:37,940 --> 01:05:42,200
You know, people identified with him
and felt like he was the everyday guy.
1225
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,080
And he was.
1226
01:05:43,180 --> 01:05:43,820
He was that guy.
1227
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,296
He's the sweetest
guy in the world.
1228
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,320
He'll help anybody.
1229
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,800
I'd like to dedicate this match to my
two little people at home and say...
1230
01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:54,320
that Gadeo did it!
1231
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,420
Scripted doesn't resonate with
the sports entertainment crowd.
1232
01:05:59,660 --> 01:06:06,060
Because the sports entertainment
crowd is always aching for something real.
1233
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,895
There were moments when I
absolutely, 100%, became so
1234
01:06:10,896 --> 01:06:14,340
invested in the character
that I was that character.
1235
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,460
And for The Rock,
it was the same way.
1236
01:06:17,010 --> 01:06:19,297
But in one particular
case, becoming those
1237
01:06:19,298 --> 01:06:22,981
characters didn't work
out particularly well.
1238
01:06:23,770 --> 01:06:27,660
There was a documentary crew there
filming for a movie called Beyond the Mat.
1239
01:06:28,380 --> 01:06:30,660
You know Rock is
Daddy's friend, right?
1240
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:33,380
He's not gonna do anything
to really hurt Daddy, right?
1241
01:06:34,540 --> 01:06:35,900
You're not gonna
be scared, right?
1242
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:40,840
I wanted my family to
see Dad as the champion.
1243
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,400
You know, I wanted
them to be so proud of me.
1244
01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:44,780
And I wanted to
go to Disneyland.
1245
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,440
Really wanted to
go to Disneyland.
1246
01:06:46,460 --> 01:06:47,620
I wanted to go to Disneyland.
1247
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,680
Nick Foley is barely moving.
1248
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,940
And now The Rock has handcuffs.
1249
01:06:52,020 --> 01:06:53,340
What the hell is
he gonna do now?
1250
01:06:53,700 --> 01:06:54,700
Handcuffs?
1251
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,440
You know, I'm an old school guy.
1252
01:07:14,260 --> 01:07:21,360
That night, even I was uncomfortable with
the amount of chair shots that Mick took.
1253
01:07:25,830 --> 01:07:28,486
Did you shoulder some of the blame
for when things turned out that way?
1254
01:07:28,510 --> 01:07:28,990
Well, uh-uh.
1255
01:07:29,030 --> 01:07:31,590
I think I shouldered most of the
blame because it was my idea.
1256
01:07:34,850 --> 01:07:40,110
The idea was the WWE camera would show the
children, which they did not end up doing.
1257
01:07:40,330 --> 01:07:44,510
But Beyond the Mat did show my family,
and that was really chilling footage.
1258
01:07:44,970 --> 01:07:46,090
Oh, my God!
1259
01:07:46,990 --> 01:07:47,990
Excuse me.
1260
01:07:55,090 --> 01:08:00,810
By Mom and Dad kind of without saying it,
their body language was like, we are gonna
1261
01:08:00,811 --> 01:08:03,270
have to discuss this,
and not in front of the kids.
1262
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:04,630
It was horrible.
1263
01:08:04,770 --> 01:08:08,710
And they were stitching him up, and
Mick is talking like nothing happened.
1264
01:08:09,610 --> 01:08:14,063
I was taking a large risk
with my body, just hoping and
1265
01:08:14,064 --> 01:08:17,270
betting that it would set my
family up for a good future.
1266
01:08:18,150 --> 01:08:21,830
I knew from day one that
I was on borrowed time.
1267
01:08:22,750 --> 01:08:24,870
But I wouldn't
admit it to anybody.
1268
01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:27,030
I
1269
01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:40,450
could not have scripted a better
retirement match with Triple H.
1270
01:08:41,730 --> 01:08:44,230
I was going out on my own terms.
1271
01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:55,290
When it was over, I felt an
immediate sense of fulfillment.
1272
01:08:57,250 --> 01:09:02,550
I had set out to save my money and
retire by the time I was 35, and I did it.
1273
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:24,420
My dad and my brother were in the crowd,
and they came back to congratulate me,
1274
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,389
and then I went to my
hotel room and cried my eyes
1275
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:31,621
out, because it was the
end of a fascinating journey.
1276
01:09:34,980 --> 01:09:38,420
I had been preparing my kids for
the day that I'd be leaving wrestling,
1277
01:09:38,850 --> 01:09:42,760
and my daughter said, well, daddy,
if you don't wrestle, we can't eat,
1278
01:09:42,890 --> 01:09:43,890
and we're going to die.
1279
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:49,020
So I had a little talk about the effects
of compounding interest, and that the
1280
01:09:49,021 --> 01:09:51,301
Foley's were probably going
to be okay for a little while.
1281
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:57,020
We wanted to have children
again, and I wanted to be home.
1282
01:09:57,940 --> 01:10:00,500
Our son, Mickey,
was born in 2001.
1283
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,320
Whoa, Mickey!
1284
01:10:02,980 --> 01:10:05,080
And in 2003, we had Huey.
1285
01:10:05,180 --> 01:10:06,180
Here comes Huey!
1286
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,240
Hiya!
1287
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,913
That was when I portrayed
the most complicated
1288
01:10:11,013 --> 01:10:13,120
character of them all,
which was Super Dad.
1289
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,220
Hi, Huey!
1290
01:10:16,221 --> 01:10:17,480
Now turn it off.
1291
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:18,500
We'll go inside, okay?
1292
01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:20,220
Whoa!
1293
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,280
I think I did a pretty
good job as a father.
1294
01:10:23,420 --> 01:10:24,420
Yeah.
1295
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,020
It's so funny.
1296
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:32,380
My dad played all these crazy characters,
like ripping his hair out and rocking back
1297
01:10:32,381 --> 01:10:35,115
and forth and talking
to rats in a boiler
1298
01:10:35,116 --> 01:10:38,080
room, yet he is just
like this big teddy bear.
1299
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:39,920
Oh, look how beautiful that is.
1300
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,240
No, no!
1301
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,841
What did you... Oh, no!
1302
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,540
I had time on my hands, and I wanted to
really do my best to make a difference and
1303
01:10:49,541 --> 01:10:52,000
to be part of something
that was bigger than myself.
1304
01:10:52,780 --> 01:10:58,600
I said, Mick, you are on this
platform that you can do anything.
1305
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,300
Whatever you want
to do, you can do it.
1306
01:11:01,420 --> 01:11:04,411
The fight against sexual
assault has an unlikely
1307
01:11:04,412 --> 01:11:07,740
new ally, former WWE
superstar Mick Foley.
1308
01:11:08,095 --> 01:11:12,800
I felt like, as odd as it seemed, that
it was exactly where I could make the
1309
01:11:12,801 --> 01:11:18,300
most difference, that it was an area
that needed attention, especially from men.
1310
01:11:18,855 --> 01:11:22,440
At that point, I had been
volunteering as a crisis counselor.
1311
01:11:23,035 --> 01:11:25,960
I'd log on and someone would
say, tell me why I should live.
1312
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:28,908
My wife would wake up
eight hours later and I'd still
1313
01:11:28,909 --> 01:11:31,720
be with that same person
trying to get them to hold on.
1314
01:11:32,645 --> 01:11:34,560
And that was a big
part of who I was.
1315
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:45,640
I've had a lot of time to think
about why I went back to wrestling.
1316
01:11:47,540 --> 01:11:50,200
At the end of the day,
it was a simple reason.
1317
01:11:50,780 --> 01:11:51,940
I just missed it.
1318
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,360
It's almost like a religious
experience for him.
1319
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,320
He's at home.
1320
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,100
The ring is Mick
Foley's sanctuary.
1321
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,920
It's a safe place.
1322
01:12:08,780 --> 01:12:09,780
Emotionally.
1323
01:12:10,780 --> 01:12:12,180
Maybe not so much physically.
1324
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,340
I had four big matches when
I came back from retirement.
1325
01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:24,260
Teaming up with The Rock at WrestleMania,
Randy Orton, in Edmonton, Edge at
1326
01:12:24,261 --> 01:12:26,900
WrestleMania 2006,
and the feud with Ric Flair.
1327
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,800
That should have been it for me.
1328
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,800
I should have realized that
I can't wrestle ever again.
1329
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,000
Everything after that was
at least partly a cash grab.
1330
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,720
I was the guy who was used to being
able to take anything, and I got to a point
1331
01:12:40,721 --> 01:12:42,940
where almost every
single thing was hurting me.
1332
01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:45,200
I no longer looked
forward to matches.
1333
01:12:45,740 --> 01:12:47,600
I just wanted them
to be over with.
1334
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:56,200
I returned to WWE and I was
given the WWE's impact test.
1335
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:03,040
I had independent neurologists and
WWE's neurologists both confirming the same
1336
01:13:03,041 --> 01:13:05,300
diagnosis, which is I
should never wrestle again.
1337
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,640
It's one thing for you
to make that decision.
1338
01:13:09,780 --> 01:13:13,300
It's another thing for a neurologist
to make that decision for you.
1339
01:13:13,940 --> 01:13:16,100
I was struggling physically.
1340
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,880
I was struggling emotionally.
1341
01:13:22,580 --> 01:13:25,713
I generally would wake up
and I would just know this
1342
01:13:25,714 --> 01:13:28,501
doesn't even have the
potential of being a good day.
1343
01:13:28,940 --> 01:13:33,040
My eyes were so sensitive to light, I
didn't think I could write ever again.
1344
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,178
I really took pride
in the job I did as a
1345
01:13:36,179 --> 01:13:39,240
crisis counselor, and
then that was taken away.
1346
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:42,074
The road trips with
the kids and the roller
1347
01:13:42,075 --> 01:13:44,540
coasters seemed like
they'd be coming to an end.
1348
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,400
I had so many things I
loved taken away from me.
1349
01:13:47,401 --> 01:13:54,940
It was just kind of, you know, sleeping
late, very lethargic, really out of it.
1350
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:55,720
He was low energy.
1351
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,540
He wasn't playing
with the kids too much.
1352
01:13:57,620 --> 01:14:00,520
He was just a guy who kind
of needed to be by himself.
1353
01:14:00,940 --> 01:14:04,101
I just was thinking to myself,
wow, I'm, you know, now
1354
01:14:04,102 --> 01:14:08,080
I'm 45 and I'm in the
basement of my house all alone.
1355
01:14:08,260 --> 01:14:10,220
This somehow wasn't
how I pictured things.
1356
01:14:12,260 --> 01:14:15,160
I felt like nothing I had
done made any difference.
1357
01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:17,960
Nothing I've done
has meant a thing.
1358
01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:26,970
How do you want to play horse?
1359
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,890
All right, one-legged fadeaway.
1360
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,280
Whoa.
1361
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:36,900
That was nice.
1362
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:38,300
I don't think I could do that.
1363
01:14:42,410 --> 01:14:44,180
How much height am I
getting on my jump shot?
1364
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:45,680
None.
1365
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:48,900
Oh, yes!
1366
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,840
Yes!
1367
01:14:55,780 --> 01:14:56,780
Try
1368
01:14:59,410 --> 01:15:03,030
a regular version
of Happy Birthday.
1369
01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:03,610
I guess so.
1370
01:15:04,230 --> 01:15:05,670
I'll let you know when
I'm ready to go, okay?
1371
01:15:05,671 --> 01:15:05,890
Oh, okay.
1372
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:06,690
Wait, for Happy Birthday?
1373
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:07,150
Yeah.
1374
01:15:07,610 --> 01:15:08,610
Oh!
1375
01:15:09,115 --> 01:15:12,390
A dude at love with
a song like no other.
1376
01:15:12,430 --> 01:15:13,270
For you, my brother.
1377
01:15:13,370 --> 01:15:14,370
And it goes like this.
1378
01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:17,550
Birthday to you.
1379
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:20,790
Happy birthday to you.
1380
01:15:22,090 --> 01:15:24,810
Happy birthday, dear Tyler.
1381
01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:30,490
Happy birthday to you.
1382
01:15:31,070 --> 01:15:34,970
Happy birthday to you.
1383
01:15:37,470 --> 01:15:40,610
Happy birthday to you.
1384
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:49,390
In retrospect, my wife and I should
have realized so much sooner.
1385
01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:54,470
Mickey was slow to talk.
1386
01:15:55,570 --> 01:16:00,270
I mean even going back to when he was
a little boy at Hershey Park and there's
1387
01:16:00,271 --> 01:16:03,097
this great expansive
huge world-class rides and
1388
01:16:03,098 --> 01:16:05,550
he was just so content
to splash in a puddle.
1389
01:16:05,850 --> 01:16:09,332
So we realized that something
was different and so when
1390
01:16:09,333 --> 01:16:14,270
he had the autism diagnosis
it felt like this explains it.
1391
01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:20,286
It really was a shock to my
system and I knew I had to be
1392
01:16:20,287 --> 01:16:23,710
there for my family and to do
that I had to get my mind right.
1393
01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:30,790
I decided to do whatever I could to
kind of keep the mental fires burning.
1394
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:36,541
I was trying to do traditional
stand-up comedy but I found
1395
01:16:36,542 --> 01:16:40,110
that I was running away from my
strengths which was my day job.
1396
01:16:40,350 --> 01:16:42,210
That was what people
wanted to hear about.
1397
01:16:43,230 --> 01:16:47,890
Going out there on the stage is the
best form of exercise for your mind.
1398
01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:49,850
You're memorizing routines.
1399
01:16:50,830 --> 01:16:54,930
You are creating new content
and you are playing off the audience.
1400
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:57,150
This is like mental gymnastics.
1401
01:16:57,910 --> 01:17:02,821
No matter what I did, no matter
how many matches I had, I
1402
01:17:02,822 --> 01:17:06,050
could not figure out the
secret of the Terry Funk punch.
1403
01:17:06,250 --> 01:17:10,150
And then Terry Funk punched
me as hard as he could in the head.
1404
01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:13,550
I was like, that's it?
1405
01:17:14,230 --> 01:17:15,250
That's all you do?
1406
01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:20,090
I think it's very cathartic for
him to do these one-man shows.
1407
01:17:20,830 --> 01:17:23,410
He gets relief and therapy.
1408
01:17:24,450 --> 01:17:26,270
I found out I was
no longer irrelevant.
1409
01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:28,630
I was part of people's lives.
1410
01:17:29,290 --> 01:17:30,470
Come on up here.
1411
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:33,690
I just wanted to tell you,
we named our dog after you.
1412
01:17:33,890 --> 01:17:34,490
What did you name him?
1413
01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:35,570
His name's Mick Foley.
1414
01:17:35,571 --> 01:17:36,571
Oh, that's awesome.
1415
01:17:36,650 --> 01:17:39,990
He had his ears taken
off by dog fighters.
1416
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:41,690
And we went, his name is Mick.
1417
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:43,830
It's a big commitment
when you're naming animals.
1418
01:17:44,970 --> 01:17:47,130
I wanted to ask a
second question of you.
1419
01:17:47,290 --> 01:17:47,850
Go ahead.
1420
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:49,150
You are an ordained minister.
1421
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:50,810
I guess so.
1422
01:17:50,830 --> 01:17:51,690
I took the course.
1423
01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:52,510
Would you marry us?
1424
01:17:52,570 --> 01:17:53,850
Oh, would I marry you?
1425
01:17:53,851 --> 01:17:55,066
Are you going to get
married in Florida?
1426
01:17:55,090 --> 01:17:55,150
Yeah.
1427
01:17:55,210 --> 01:17:55,510
We are.
1428
01:17:55,650 --> 01:17:56,630
Would you marry us?
1429
01:17:56,650 --> 01:17:57,230
I will marry you.
1430
01:17:57,231 --> 01:17:57,590
Like, that's so sweet.
1431
01:17:58,110 --> 01:18:00,810
Do you expect me to say no
with the A&E cameras on me?
1432
01:18:01,030 --> 01:18:03,150
You used to live on
Clearwater Beach.
1433
01:18:03,790 --> 01:18:04,670
Yeah, I could do that.
1434
01:18:04,671 --> 01:18:06,790
Why is it that he
makes people so happy?
1435
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:11,710
Oh, Mick is a Santa
Claus all year round.
1436
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:17,070
Anyone with that kind of mentality wants to
give, you know, wants to make people happy.
1437
01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:17,970
That's Mick Foley.
1438
01:18:18,250 --> 01:18:19,410
That's what Mick's all about.
1439
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:27,240
It feels like I'm
bleaching like a goat.
1440
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,080
Anything worth doing is
worth doing well, right?
1441
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:44,800
Oh wow, that looks good.
1442
01:18:47,730 --> 01:18:51,004
When I was portraying
characters in wrestling, I
1443
01:18:51,005 --> 01:18:53,801
had to be tougher and
braver and more resilient.
1444
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:58,560
In trying to portray Santa to the best
of my abilities, I had to be kinder and
1445
01:18:58,561 --> 01:19:01,780
gentler and more patient
than I was in real life.
1446
01:19:01,781 --> 01:19:04,840
And I love the idea of trying
to live up to that standard.
1447
01:19:07,820 --> 01:19:09,960
All right, this is
the big one here.
1448
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:14,680
What?
1449
01:19:14,780 --> 01:19:21,960
He will write letters as Santa Claus to
my kids every year and in a fountain pen.
1450
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,506
It will come over as Santa,
just to be caught sneaking out
1451
01:19:27,507 --> 01:19:30,400
of the house so that my
kids still believe they're Santa.
1452
01:19:30,580 --> 01:19:31,260
Oh my God.
1453
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:31,300
Oh my God.
1454
01:19:31,301 --> 01:19:31,300
Oh my God.
1455
01:19:31,301 --> 01:19:31,300
Oh my God.
1456
01:19:31,301 --> 01:19:31,300
Oh my God.
1457
01:19:31,301 --> 01:19:31,300
Oh my God.
1458
01:19:31,301 --> 01:19:31,300
Oh my God.
1459
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:31,360
Oh my God.
1460
01:19:31,361 --> 01:19:31,360
Oh my God.
1461
01:19:31,780 --> 01:19:31,900
Oh my God.
1462
01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:31,900
Oh my God.
1463
01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:31,900
Oh my God.
1464
01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:31,900
Oh my God.
1465
01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:35,100
I was a huge fan of the band, The
Kinks, when I was in high school.
1466
01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:39,840
At that time, The Kinks were
touring huge arenas all over the world.
1467
01:19:40,620 --> 01:19:43,080
The lead singer was
asked what that was like.
1468
01:19:43,220 --> 01:19:45,900
He said, it doesn't really
matter as long as I can see faces.
1469
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,560
And his answer at the time disappointed
me, and then I realized how true that was.
1470
01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:52,320
Santa!
1471
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,980
Hello there, Parker.
1472
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,200
Yes, my friends.
1473
01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:57,300
How are you today?
1474
01:19:57,380 --> 01:19:57,860
Look at that.
1475
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,900
Do you mind if Santa
pulls up a chair here?
1476
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,000
Come on in.
1477
01:20:01,001 --> 01:20:02,001
Okay.
1478
01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:06,253
Santa and Mrs. Claus
and the elves went through
1479
01:20:06,254 --> 01:20:08,540
this entire book
page by page like this.
1480
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,160
Reach in there, my friend.
1481
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,440
Oh, I think that's it.
1482
01:20:13,780 --> 01:20:14,720
Do you have any idea?
1483
01:20:14,780 --> 01:20:15,780
I believe that's a ball.
1484
01:20:16,380 --> 01:20:18,300
I believe it's a
pair of sneakers.
1485
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:25,980
I can honestly say I feel better
now than I did 15 years ago.
1486
01:20:26,740 --> 01:20:28,903
It's really amazing that
people have allowed
1487
01:20:28,915 --> 01:20:30,800
me to become part
of their traditions.
1488
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:33,560
Yeah, there's always
something to look forward to.
1489
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,560
I think Mick Foley's self-worth
1490
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:45,350
is predicated on his ability
to be great at something.
1491
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:51,090
And Mick found something
at which he can be great.
1492
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:55,130
I can never drop an elbow again.
1493
01:20:55,310 --> 01:20:57,650
I've got a ball of steel
where my hip used to be.
1494
01:20:57,830 --> 01:21:00,670
But that's a relatively
small price to pay for
1495
01:21:00,682 --> 01:21:03,410
having had the chance
to live out my dreams.
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