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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,850 --> 00:00:02,890 We're going to have a handheld and turn them around. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,800 I mean, that way Keith's standing, it looks like it's higher, right? 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Does he do that from the second rope? 4 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:12,820 Boom! 5 00:00:13,060 --> 00:00:17,140 This job to me is the greatest life that I could ever live. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,900 For years, people told me that I was too small, that I couldn't do this, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,200 that I couldn't do that, that I wasn't going to make it. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,180 And I've shoved it in everybody's face. 9 00:00:27,181 --> 00:00:28,760 There's no time out for this man. 10 00:00:28,940 --> 00:00:32,600 I realized I can't be popular with everybody all of the time. 11 00:00:32,980 --> 00:00:38,381 So in the meantime, I'm going to be popular with me, and I'm going to be the best. 12 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:44,120 There are definitely two lives of Shawn Michaels, even as who he was before. 13 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:51,220 You will not ever in your lives see a man more charismatic, more flamboyant, 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,860 or more talented than the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,860 The greatest in-ring... 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,720 performer... 17 00:00:59,380 --> 00:01:00,380 of all time. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,660 Being a prick doesn't come naturally, Shawn. 19 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:03,700 It did. 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,960 As a dick. 21 00:01:05,140 --> 00:01:08,120 The showstopper, the headliner, the main event! 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,615 There was so much bad blood between us, and I 23 00:01:10,675 --> 00:01:13,800 was always like, if I see him, I'll kill him. 24 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:17,240 I had so much anger about it. 25 00:01:17,420 --> 00:01:19,020 Nobody steals my spotlight! 26 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:20,660 I want it all! 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,380 Shawn Michaels can do absolutely anything, any style, to perfection with anyone. 28 00:01:25,780 --> 00:01:26,940 When the bell rings... 29 00:01:27,180 --> 00:01:28,580 No one is as good as Shawn. 30 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:32,940 I will give you a show like you have never, ever seen before. 31 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:34,180 Why? 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Because I can. 33 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:39,040 The only man to win every major title. 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,100 You can't say anybody was better. 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,720 But also tormentor. 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,480 It's like I'm in self-destruct mode. 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,640 I just knew that he didn't love himself. 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,660 There was something in him that he despised. 39 00:01:48,980 --> 00:01:50,940 You're taking pain pills at 12 in the afternoon. 40 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:53,440 Belligerent, falling down, staggering. 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Everything that you have in your life is this. 42 00:01:56,401 --> 00:01:57,580 And it's all going away. 43 00:01:59,260 --> 00:02:03,220 On more than one occasion, I really wanted to beat the hell out of Shawn. 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,680 But I knew there was a good man behind all this other crap. 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,241 The biggest thing that he ever did is turning his life around to where he is now. 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,100 And so, yep, there are two lives there. 47 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:17,120 But there's one Shawn Michaels. 48 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:22,860 The very best sports entertainer in the world! 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,340 Shawn is a developmental brand that grooms WWE superstars. 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,300 Any kind of count-out, DQ, or whatever, ends the match. 51 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 There are Shawn's fingerprints in almost every talent in NXT. 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,560 Shawn is very hands-on. 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Then he sits up behind him and then whacks! 54 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:45,020 He sold out arenas all around the world when he was a heartbreak kid. 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,220 He's in a different place in his life now. 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:47,840 He's humble. 57 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:49,660 He wants to be behind the scenes. 58 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:50,320 It isn't about him. 59 00:02:50,460 --> 00:02:53,600 He wants to help others achieve their dreams. 60 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:55,740 You have to say it with passion and anger. 61 00:02:55,741 --> 00:02:56,660 Here we go, guys. 62 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,860 Three, two, one... 63 00:02:58,861 --> 00:03:05,140 Seeing Shawn today, it's sometimes hard for people to believe that Shawn Michaels. 64 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:08,900 Certain levels of talent command certain levels of respect. 65 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:17,836 His knowledge and his wisdom of the business 66 00:03:17,848 --> 00:03:21,081 and all that stuff, it's so valuable. 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Shawn Michaels' life is a story that I'll never forget. 68 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:27,096 And a lot of people could relate to. 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,740 He always wanted more. 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,820 It was a life of never enough. 71 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:34,000 And then his life totally changes. 72 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:35,820 A lot of us have that. 73 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,220 If we're lucky. 74 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:39,934 I think the Shawn Michaels story is one that's really 75 00:03:39,935 --> 00:03:42,181 cool and one that all of us can stand to learn from. 76 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,010 I was born into a military family. 77 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:51,330 My father was in the Air Force. 78 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:53,830 It was Michael Shawn Hickenbottom. 79 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:55,710 But everybody in my family called me Shawn. 80 00:03:56,510 --> 00:03:58,210 My father was a pilot. 81 00:03:58,570 --> 00:04:00,790 So early on, we moved a lot. 82 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:02,810 He was going to Vietnam. 83 00:04:02,930 --> 00:04:03,930 We went to England. 84 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:04,730 Then Maryland. 85 00:04:04,950 --> 00:04:06,950 And then we moved to Texas. 86 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:08,850 I was about eight-ish. 87 00:04:09,370 --> 00:04:12,070 From that point on, I was in the state of Texas. 88 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:16,770 You don't have long-lasting friendships in the Air Force. 89 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:20,010 The hardest part for making friends is having the last name. 90 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:21,210 The roll call. 91 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:21,950 Hickenbottom? 92 00:04:22,030 --> 00:04:23,030 Michael Hickenbottom? 93 00:04:23,390 --> 00:04:25,066 Do you hear the snickers all over the road? 94 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:25,530 Hickenbottom? 95 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:26,710 And of course you do. 96 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:28,230 And it's like, son of a biscuit. 97 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:29,690 I wish I had a different last name. 98 00:04:30,410 --> 00:04:32,910 Shawn was well-loved. 99 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:35,750 He was always very quiet and very shy. 100 00:04:36,970 --> 00:04:38,870 Growing up, he wasn't an extrovert. 101 00:04:39,490 --> 00:04:44,370 He was just a good, friendly, nice little boy. 102 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:45,950 And people liked him. 103 00:04:46,190 --> 00:04:49,030 He was involved in sports all of his life. 104 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:51,710 He just enjoyed doing everything. 105 00:04:53,050 --> 00:04:55,450 I was a big fan of playing football. 106 00:04:55,451 --> 00:04:56,930 Because of the contact. 107 00:04:57,210 --> 00:05:00,510 You know, contact and athletics were appealing to me. 108 00:05:01,610 --> 00:05:05,770 And then I'm 12 years old, getting to stay up late on a Saturday night. 109 00:05:06,830 --> 00:05:09,450 And this wrestling show starts. 110 00:05:09,965 --> 00:05:11,490 Southwest Championship Wrestling. 111 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:16,110 The beginning montage of the guys, slow motions, jumping off the top rope. 112 00:05:16,510 --> 00:05:17,330 I was enthralled. 113 00:05:17,331 --> 00:05:20,310 It was just the neatest thing I ever saw. 114 00:05:20,745 --> 00:05:22,145 The best in professional wrestling. 115 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:22,630 And I'm Steve. 116 00:05:22,631 --> 00:05:23,810 After the show, I walked out. 117 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:24,966 You know, my mom was in the kitchen. 118 00:05:24,990 --> 00:05:26,990 I said, I know what I'm going to do when I grow up. 119 00:05:27,030 --> 00:05:29,670 And she said once, I said, I'm going to be a professional wrestler. 120 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:31,230 I was like, oh, that's nice, honey. 121 00:05:32,590 --> 00:05:35,750 He began to talk about that's what he wanted to do. 122 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:39,690 And I was sure that ultimately he would grow out of that. 123 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:40,930 But he never did. 124 00:05:41,910 --> 00:05:45,750 Down at the Freeman Coliseum, Shawn would periodically get to go. 125 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:48,490 And oh, he saw Tully Blanchard. 126 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:51,770 Wahoo McDaniels, Eddie Mansfield, Scott Casey. 127 00:05:51,771 --> 00:05:55,670 Of course, then later, Ric Flair was the wrestling god. 128 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:58,190 And he would buy wrestling magazines. 129 00:05:58,370 --> 00:06:00,110 And he would look at Ric Flair. 130 00:06:00,330 --> 00:06:04,250 And then he'd stand in the mirror and try to talk like him and look like him. 131 00:06:04,690 --> 00:06:09,250 Being a wrestling fan, it was really a black sheep source of mockery. 132 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:12,170 It's not something you say with a great deal of pride. 133 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:17,150 It was just a relationship between me and wrestling for a while. 134 00:06:17,370 --> 00:06:20,570 And my dad was an amateur wrestler at the University of Iowa. 135 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:22,910 So he was a real... a real wrestler. 136 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:25,890 And of course, he just gave some gruff like, ah, that stuff's fake. 137 00:06:26,030 --> 00:06:28,594 The kindest thing I could say about it was I 138 00:06:28,595 --> 00:06:32,131 considered it to be an athletic soap opera. 139 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:36,090 Which was... has always been my description of professional wrestling. 140 00:06:36,690 --> 00:06:39,610 Then a new kid gets transferred, but his name is Kenny Kent. 141 00:06:40,210 --> 00:06:43,070 I met Shawn the summer of 1980. 142 00:06:43,450 --> 00:06:45,210 We were sophomores in high school, both 15. 143 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:49,210 He would want to wrestle and throw around his friends, and they didn't like it. 144 00:06:49,211 --> 00:06:52,730 And so I instantly became his little tag team partner. 145 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:55,630 And we would just bash each other and throw each other around. 146 00:06:55,810 --> 00:06:57,870 And that's really what developed our friendship. 147 00:06:58,270 --> 00:07:00,170 They practiced out in the pool. 148 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:01,670 Frightening. 149 00:07:02,190 --> 00:07:04,270 Shawn would lift him straight up. 150 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:04,830 Kenny would hold him. 151 00:07:04,990 --> 00:07:06,570 And then they'd fall into the pool. 152 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:08,710 His way of practicing. 153 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:11,330 Shawn dreamed of wrestling. 154 00:07:11,570 --> 00:07:15,110 He would call me and tell me these matches that he would lay out and prepare. 155 00:07:15,410 --> 00:07:17,110 He was really obsessed with it. 156 00:07:18,190 --> 00:07:21,370 In that time... You struggle back and forth with... 157 00:07:21,371 --> 00:07:25,070 People are telling me it's fake, but I am there watching the guy... Whap! 158 00:07:25,071 --> 00:07:27,150 I mean, hitting the guy and sweats flying off. 159 00:07:27,950 --> 00:07:29,490 There's something to it. 160 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:31,870 They've got me hook, line, and sinker. 161 00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:33,990 We were a very small school. 162 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:38,010 We did not have a wrestling team, but our senior year, we had a talent show. 163 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:41,330 And it was Shawn's idea that me and him were going to do a wrestling match. 164 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:46,630 Everything was going quite well until I threw Shawn off the stage, into the crowd, 165 00:07:46,830 --> 00:07:49,170 and beat his head on the table a couple of times. 166 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:52,090 And there's just blood gushing all over his head. 167 00:07:52,490 --> 00:07:53,950 And people are going nuts. 168 00:07:54,130 --> 00:07:55,690 I think we came in second. 169 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:56,990 We didn't win. 170 00:07:57,170 --> 00:07:59,630 We got beat by a group of cheerleaders. 171 00:07:59,830 --> 00:08:04,150 So, you know, two guys in little tighty-whities versus cheerleaders. 172 00:08:04,610 --> 00:08:05,890 They're going to win every time. 173 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:07,790 We graduate. 174 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,026 And then it's, what are you going to do? 175 00:08:10,050 --> 00:08:11,290 You decided what you want? 176 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:12,730 I still want to be a wrestler. 177 00:08:13,450 --> 00:08:15,870 I recognize that I said it when I was 12. 178 00:08:16,410 --> 00:08:19,170 But it's just been a big, big... 179 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,320 part of my life. 180 00:08:20,450 --> 00:08:21,710 Okay, that's awesome. 181 00:08:21,930 --> 00:08:22,930 That's not a possibility. 182 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:25,187 But, you know, at 17, you look at them and you 183 00:08:25,188 --> 00:08:27,030 think, you don't know what you're talking about. 184 00:08:27,250 --> 00:08:28,690 We said, you're going to college. 185 00:08:28,870 --> 00:08:32,510 There wasn't a lot of hope and understanding in what I was doing. 186 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:35,350 We went off to Southwest Texas State University. 187 00:08:35,690 --> 00:08:39,410 When we lived together in college, there were many nights I would hear him, 188 00:08:39,411 --> 00:08:41,501 and he's standing there with his shirt off, and he'd 189 00:08:41,502 --> 00:08:43,870 be talking and screaming at the mirror, practicing. 190 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:48,170 At the end of his second semester, I think his GPA was... 191 00:08:49,690 --> 00:08:50,170 .4. 192 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:51,790 School just wasn't for him. 193 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,200 And he was ready to make his move into the wrestling world. 194 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,690 Essentially, he said, I don't want to waste any more of my time or your money. 195 00:08:59,950 --> 00:09:02,070 I am going to be a professional wrestler. 196 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:06,402 My dad played golf with this guy, and apparently, he's 197 00:09:06,403 --> 00:09:09,490 the guy that's the local promoter here in San Antonio. 198 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:13,350 We go down there, and Jose Lothario was there. 199 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:16,870 From San Antonio, Texas, superstar Jose Lothario. 200 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:17,310 Yeah! 201 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:19,710 Understood he was a legitimate name. 202 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:21,930 The gentleman's saying, well, he has to be trained. 203 00:09:22,210 --> 00:09:24,150 Jose could do the training if you wanted. 204 00:09:24,250 --> 00:09:25,650 It's going to cost $3,000. 205 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:33,810 I thought about facing him when he was 35 or 40 years old, and having him say, 206 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:40,790 Dad, if you had just given me the chance, I could have been a professional wrestler. 207 00:09:40,990 --> 00:09:42,310 And I couldn't face that thought. 208 00:09:42,990 --> 00:09:45,650 And so I said, what the hell? 209 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,980 You know, I wake up every day never, never forgetting what I did for a living. 210 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,963 Sort of developed a habit of getting up in the 211 00:10:00,964 --> 00:10:03,060 morning, stretching, and then the heat pad. 212 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:08,280 Over the years, you just come up with a system that your body responds well to. 213 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,182 I do some form of training every day, you know, 214 00:10:12,183 --> 00:10:15,261 to be comfortable for the rest of the day. 215 00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:17,589 I plan on getting, you know, new knees, 216 00:10:17,601 --> 00:10:19,920 knee replacements and shoulder replacements. 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,080 Those things are going to add to my quality of life. 218 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,864 It's not like I got into this stuff thinking, I want 219 00:10:25,865 --> 00:10:29,200 to be independently wealthy and be 100% healthy. 220 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,500 That doesn't happen. 221 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,000 So I don't mind any of it. 222 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:34,860 I don't think that's some big, crazy sacrifice. 223 00:10:44,020 --> 00:10:47,860 I first came across Shawn Michaels in 1983. 224 00:10:48,820 --> 00:10:52,040 Shawn was training with a gentleman by the name of Jose Lothario. 225 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,220 Jose was a big star in Houston, Texas, Dallas, San Antonio. 226 00:10:57,340 --> 00:11:01,200 He was Hispanic, so there was a luchador style. 227 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,940 It was the aerial side of things. 228 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,305 Thankfully, in all of that process, he saw that, 229 00:11:08,306 --> 00:11:10,340 oh, my goodness, he's actually pretty good. 230 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:15,900 It was worth the $3,000, period, for him to get me my first job in Louisiana. 231 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,300 That could not have happened without Jose Lothario. 232 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:22,020 The pride of Barrow Beach, Florida, Terry Taylor! 233 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,020 First time I met Shawn Michaels working for Mid-South, there was this young, 234 00:11:27,021 --> 00:11:32,220 innocent, cheerful, vibrant sort of lost young man. 235 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:33,940 I was scared of everything. 236 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:36,880 It was a lot of confusion, a lot of unknown. 237 00:11:37,180 --> 00:11:39,980 How in God's name is this supposed to go on? 238 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,140 They came walking to the back, and Terry Taylor was standing there at the curtain. 239 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,040 I said, how long you been in the business? 240 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:47,580 And he goes, that was my first match. 241 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:50,300 I couldn't believe it, because this isn't easy. 242 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:51,580 Shawn Michaels. 243 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,020 Very young man, and very inexperienced, but he has a great deal of natural 244 00:11:56,021 --> 00:11:59,180 athletic ability, We drove 3,000 miles a week. 245 00:11:59,340 --> 00:12:02,140 That means there's a lot of time that you're in the car doing this. 246 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,400 And he would ask questions. 247 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:05,280 Young man who is quite handsome. 248 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,220 I was very well-mannered, I was quiet, and I wanted to do nothing but work. 249 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:11,580 Some young people come in, I know everything. 250 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:13,300 Nothing like that with Shawn. 251 00:12:14,020 --> 00:12:16,260 Humble, passionate, driven, hungry. 252 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:21,609 At about six months, the owner, Bill Watts, 253 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:24,800 came to me, and he got me set up in Kansas City. 254 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:27,961 I was going to have the opportunity, to 255 00:12:27,973 --> 00:12:31,160 begin to grow as a wrestler, as a performer. 256 00:12:31,420 --> 00:12:34,640 We're hearing all this, like, this guy Shawn Michaels, Shawn Michaels come in, 257 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,240 and we're like, damn, nobody's got any attention like this. 258 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:39,500 What's wrong with us? 259 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,660 We walked into the dressing room, and this guy had real short hair, 260 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:46,480 green tights, pulled up to under his chest. 261 00:12:46,820 --> 00:12:49,980 Let me ask this nerd, like, hey, do you know who Shawn Michaels is? 262 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:52,300 And anybody goes, I'm Shawn Michaels. 263 00:12:52,780 --> 00:12:55,040 And I was like, oh, damn. 264 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,700 We got some work to do. 265 00:12:57,275 --> 00:12:59,456 They threw us together, because they needed a match real quick. 266 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,000 We didn't have time to prepare for it. 267 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,140 But it clicked. 268 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,660 Marty Jannetty. 269 00:13:05,180 --> 00:13:07,560 Marty just carried himself with such confidence. 270 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,820 He was enjoying himself. 271 00:13:09,020 --> 00:13:10,020 He was outgoing. 272 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,300 I was so sort of shy, conservative. 273 00:13:13,780 --> 00:13:14,920 Shawn Michaels. 274 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,780 Shawn came from a military family. 275 00:13:16,980 --> 00:13:22,460 Shawn was protected from a lot of the evils that lurk in the real world. 276 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,980 And having some notoriety, being on television, you've got women, you've got 277 00:13:26,981 --> 00:13:30,360 alcohol, you've got drugs, and it's all readily available to you. 278 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:32,440 Yeah, he liked it right away. 279 00:13:32,620 --> 00:13:34,220 At first, he wasn't old enough. 280 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,340 So he had to wait in the parking lot. 281 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:39,040 We'd bring girls down to him and beer down to him. 282 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,960 Marty Jannetty one day said to me, you know what, I see something in you. 283 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:44,420 It's just dying to get out. 284 00:13:45,220 --> 00:13:47,380 He said, you just need somebody to bring it out of you. 285 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,040 And I'm going to bring it out. 286 00:13:49,340 --> 00:13:53,105 From the Showboat Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, 287 00:13:53,106 --> 00:13:57,100 Nevada, this is AWA Championship Wrestling on ESPN. 288 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,820 So I was 20 years old. 289 00:13:58,940 --> 00:14:00,960 TV tapings are in Las Vegas. 290 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,480 At that time, Marty and I, you know, I knew he was out there. 291 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,780 So you just start looking around. 292 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:09,960 All of a sudden, there he is. 293 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,580 He's down there playing and go down there. 294 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:15,180 I went and just doop, doop, doop, pulled it down. 295 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,420 I'm sitting there with him, and all of a sudden, we 296 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,580 hear this ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 297 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,260 Red lights go flashing around. 298 00:14:21,580 --> 00:14:23,220 And Shawn hit triple seven. 299 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,320 He wins $1,750. 300 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,120 The first time. 301 00:14:26,285 --> 00:14:31,320 The irony of it now, like, oh, this place, Vegas and the nightlife of 302 00:14:31,321 --> 00:14:34,260 Vegas and everything else would be my downfall. 303 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,080 It started later that night. 304 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,680 It's the first line of Yale. 305 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,860 You know, the first line of blow. 306 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:45,100 And it's, oh, my gosh, this is the greatest thing ever. 307 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,560 And just this whole world opens up. 308 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:51,340 I'd have never been able to get that guy out of me. 309 00:14:51,685 --> 00:14:53,300 And Marty is the guy that helps me. 310 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:53,920 I tap into that. 311 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,900 I don't even know how much I knew was there. 312 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Me and Shawn partied Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night. 313 00:15:02,260 --> 00:15:03,560 Come Friday, we'll burn out. 314 00:15:04,260 --> 00:15:06,120 Big Van Vader, he comes to hang out with us. 315 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,640 He looked at Curt Hennig, and he goes, I thought you said these guys partied. 316 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:13,550 And Curt said, they don't start until midnight. 317 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,420 The Midnight Rockers, what a sensational pair they are. 318 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:18,500 It was like magic. 319 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:20,420 The Judas Priest song come on. 320 00:15:20,421 --> 00:15:23,060 They love to party. 321 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,560 They have taken the A.W.A. 322 00:15:24,561 --> 00:15:25,180 by storm. 323 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,760 The move happening faster than we can even talk about it. 324 00:15:27,820 --> 00:15:30,220 They get up on a bigger roof on the arenas to hold these two. 325 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:34,020 Sensational to say the least. 326 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:36,540 Livin' after midnight. 327 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,780 Rockin' till we're gone. 328 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:45,040 Midnight Rockers had a hell of a run in the A.W.A. 329 00:15:45,060 --> 00:15:46,520 that had TV on ESPN. 330 00:15:47,025 --> 00:15:50,480 The World Tag Team Championship is Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels' goal. 331 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:51,680 They were smaller guys. 332 00:15:51,681 --> 00:15:55,200 But they could work with the Giants and have a great match. 333 00:16:05,650 --> 00:16:10,170 The blood match, if you will, was the first time that a national audience got 334 00:16:10,171 --> 00:16:13,170 exposed to the talent of the Midnight Rockers. 335 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:15,770 This is absolute mayhem. 336 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:19,310 The match itself was very bloody, very gory. 337 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:23,070 One of the toughest, roughest matches that we have ever seen. 338 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:25,527 That was kind of like a defining moment in 339 00:16:25,528 --> 00:16:29,051 their career that they were made at that level. 340 00:16:30,050 --> 00:16:33,590 If we was on the road 300 days a year, we partied 290 of them. 341 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,190 We used to do a lot of drugs. 342 00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:37,610 There was a lot of powder around. 343 00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:40,510 You look at rock stars and you look at rock bands. 344 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:44,350 There was a tendency to want to go wild and destroy things. 345 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:46,090 It's fun when you're young. 346 00:16:46,370 --> 00:16:47,930 Because you feel like a rebel. 347 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:49,250 We've made it, man. 348 00:16:49,310 --> 00:16:50,310 Look at this. 349 00:16:50,490 --> 00:16:52,288 Throw a beer bottle up against the wall, and 350 00:16:52,289 --> 00:16:54,090 it's like, all right, we'll pay for it later. 351 00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:57,290 We always did the job, but it was just burning all night. 352 00:16:57,291 --> 00:17:02,310 Destroyed a room with a showboat, and we got the entire AWA. 353 00:17:02,510 --> 00:17:04,250 The entire company got kicked out of there. 354 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:08,990 It wasn't very long that we had a reputation. 355 00:17:09,330 --> 00:17:12,610 And once you get it, everybody else knows you got it. 356 00:17:14,330 --> 00:17:16,470 WWE was starting to really separate itself. 357 00:17:16,930 --> 00:17:18,006 That's where you wanted to go. 358 00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:19,310 That's where you set your goals. 359 00:17:20,570 --> 00:17:23,750 Finally, Marty got the call to go into New York. 360 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:27,270 In 1987, the Rockers won. 361 00:17:27,290 --> 00:17:29,570 It started in Buffalo, New York. 362 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:32,450 Marty and Shawn looked at this as their big break. 363 00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:38,786 That night in the bar, the other talent looked at Shawn and 364 00:17:38,787 --> 00:17:42,630 Marty as these two young punks with a chip on their shoulder. 365 00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:46,930 They're gonna have to earn the respect of the WWE locker room. 366 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:48,790 We were scared, man. 367 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:49,870 We were scared. 368 00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:52,910 So that night, that's why we kind of kept to ourself. 369 00:17:53,710 --> 00:17:56,530 And Terry Garvin come up and he said, No, don't do that. 370 00:17:56,590 --> 00:17:57,170 Don't do that. 371 00:17:57,290 --> 00:17:58,290 Y'all have to mingle. 372 00:17:59,050 --> 00:18:02,410 And then all of a sudden, Jimmy Jack Funk, he came over. 373 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:04,290 He's hammering down these drinks. 374 00:18:04,530 --> 00:18:06,930 And he's like, hey, you guys be partiers. 375 00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:09,010 He starts eating his glass. 376 00:18:10,330 --> 00:18:11,630 Come on, let's do it. 377 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:13,586 I at least got to be a little bit tough. 378 00:18:13,610 --> 00:18:15,290 So then I make wine glass all over my head. 379 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:18,050 And that was it. 380 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:19,530 Turn around, I leave. 381 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:23,670 I would never say we didn't earn our reputations, any of that. 382 00:18:23,790 --> 00:18:26,070 But the wrestling business is one giant fish story. 383 00:18:26,071 --> 00:18:27,759 All right, so something happened once to the 384 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,970 wrestling business that gets magnified to ten times. 385 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:34,667 Some people say that Shawn or Marty threw a beer bottle, 386 00:18:34,668 --> 00:18:39,150 which started a chain of events that couldn't be stopped. 387 00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:42,970 And then these two guys, I mean, they're in there just getting crazy, 388 00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:45,630 tearing up the bar, throwing stuff all over the place. 389 00:18:46,590 --> 00:18:48,490 That is not at all what happened. 390 00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:53,470 The next day, Shawn and Marty were fired. 391 00:18:54,285 --> 00:18:55,950 And it was over for them. 392 00:18:55,951 --> 00:18:56,630 After one day. 393 00:18:56,945 --> 00:19:00,230 From just the story and the hearsay and innuendo. 394 00:19:01,730 --> 00:19:04,370 I normally give reasons as to why I want to do something. 395 00:19:04,690 --> 00:19:08,450 And I'm sure I did with them, but that was one and done out. 396 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:11,770 He said, guys don't like it. 397 00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:13,790 He said, they won't let you make it here. 398 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:18,690 In my mind, I'm 23 and it's over. 399 00:19:19,550 --> 00:19:21,550 That was my one big shot. 400 00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:25,070 It happened now and it's gone. 401 00:19:28,890 --> 00:19:32,530 Take a look at Takeover, we'll watch it, and I'll scull you. 402 00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:33,750 Okay. 403 00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:37,697 Shawn Michaels put his heart and soul into being 404 00:19:37,698 --> 00:19:40,350 the best pro wrestler that he could possibly be. 405 00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:44,870 And he does the exact same thing as a coach and as a producer. 406 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:46,366 Stop there and look at each other. 407 00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:48,210 Can that stuff take a little longer? 408 00:19:48,211 --> 00:19:52,670 He will find ways to pick apart every little thing to make it better. 409 00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:53,590 Same for the head. 410 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:54,650 Yeah. 411 00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:56,408 You can't hold back on that because it's going 412 00:19:56,409 --> 00:19:57,730 to cause you not to get all the way around. 413 00:19:58,510 --> 00:20:02,610 Shawn has this amazing ability to instill a confidence in you. 414 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:04,990 This was tremendous for the Bronsons. 415 00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:06,766 And when someone like Shawn Michaels gives that 416 00:20:06,767 --> 00:20:09,211 to you, that's all the motivation that you need. 417 00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:23,860 The unfortunate byproduct of Shawn and Marty being fired after their first day in 418 00:20:23,861 --> 00:20:28,460 WWE is, Marty and Shawn had burned their bridge in the AWA. 419 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Where do you go? 420 00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:32,320 Welcome once again to Continental Championship Wrestling. 421 00:20:32,321 --> 00:20:35,600 We ended up in Birmingham, Alabama. 422 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:37,300 Continental Wrestling. 423 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:40,900 I was wrestling in front of 25 people at 300 bucks a week. 424 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:46,420 If you wanted to get $50 in cash, get your other $50 and below, you could do 425 00:20:46,421 --> 00:20:48,800 that, which is probably what I did nine times out of ten. 426 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,960 I heard him talk about how depressed he was. 427 00:20:53,961 --> 00:20:56,540 At that time, we was doing a lot of cocaine. 428 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,220 And we would talk about wrestling, and we would watch wrestling videos, 429 00:21:00,380 --> 00:21:01,380 and we would study. 430 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,720 I had to go home to my girlfriend like at 2 or 3 or 4 in the morning. 431 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,060 Sometimes the next morning, the sun was out. 432 00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:09,970 And evidently, the way he says it, I let him 433 00:21:09,971 --> 00:21:12,360 down because I didn't stay with him more. 434 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,340 And he was by himself. 435 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,520 When you're doing cocaine, you don't want to be alone. 436 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:23,580 When you're up at 4 o'clock in the morning coming down from the Yale, that's like... 437 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:25,200 it's very dreary. 438 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,460 Because the low is just so really low. 439 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:32,140 I was like, man, if I had a gun, this is one of those times that I was 440 00:21:32,141 --> 00:21:33,860 reckless enough to have the balls to do it. 441 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:37,080 At that time, it would have wrecked my parents. 442 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,020 You know, their suffering is what pulled me back from that. 443 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:44,300 But the thing is, I never told them the truth. 444 00:21:44,620 --> 00:21:46,235 So I'm not telling like, geez, mom, I'm just 445 00:21:46,236 --> 00:21:48,021 partying and getting hammered and doing blow. 446 00:21:49,820 --> 00:21:53,140 Sean and Marty, they wanted to come back. 447 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:59,280 I remember Pat Patterson giving them the advice to continue to work and continue to 448 00:21:59,281 --> 00:22:04,220 reverse the reputation that you have and prove to us that you belong. 449 00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:06,920 And that's what Marty and Sean did. 450 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,080 Pat was instrumental in saying, Vince, he's a great talent. 451 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,780 And it was difficult for me to make that decision because he was a jerk. 452 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,280 He was doing some stupid things. 453 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,360 But Pat was right. 454 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,700 I was there in 88 when they came back. 455 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:23,120 It had been a year since the Rockers had come back. 456 00:22:23,121 --> 00:22:24,836 They were kind of screwed up on their first day. 457 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,856 We're going to bring you back, but you're on probation. 458 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,340 You know, keep your s*** together. 459 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:30,700 Yes, sir. 460 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:34,710 These guys are excitement personified. 461 00:22:34,910 --> 00:22:36,110 They'll be high flying. 462 00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:38,290 I met Sean in 1990. 463 00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:41,130 They were pretty much, you know, fun loving guys. 464 00:22:41,530 --> 00:22:45,230 They even tested me a little bit with their, you know, their antics. 465 00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:48,030 Actually, you know, they were both pretty much peckerheads. 466 00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:50,550 I mean, I got to call a spade a spade. 467 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,490 The Rockers got a bag full of tricks and you ain't seen nothing yet. 468 00:22:53,491 --> 00:22:54,870 So get ready because here we come. 469 00:22:56,370 --> 00:23:01,390 They were definitely innovators doing tandem moves together. 470 00:23:01,770 --> 00:23:04,010 You know, such a cohesive unit. 471 00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:06,110 The fans were nuts for them. 472 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:07,250 Especially the women. 473 00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:09,210 You know, the long hair and all that. 474 00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:16,150 There was a transitional moment happening in the business where the athleticism was 475 00:23:16,151 --> 00:23:20,190 picking up the ability to do things that Sean and Marty could do. 476 00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:22,090 Oh, what a backdrop! 477 00:23:22,091 --> 00:23:27,210 Tag team wrestling now has been impacted a great deal by what Marty and I did. 478 00:23:29,290 --> 00:23:31,730 First time you ever make a magazine is huge. 479 00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:35,310 And we would always go through the stores, stop and look at the magazine racks. 480 00:23:35,530 --> 00:23:36,930 I remember one time I heard Sean. 481 00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:38,130 Oh my God! 482 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:39,690 And it was a picture of us. 483 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:42,910 It said, from imitators to innovators. 484 00:23:43,050 --> 00:23:44,750 And he's holding it up and he was so proud. 485 00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:47,290 And I was like, oh man, we did it. 486 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:49,070 Shawn Michaels! 487 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:50,330 Bernie Jannetty! 488 00:23:50,670 --> 00:23:51,790 The Rocker! 489 00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:56,090 That's a real notch in the belt to be on Saturday Night's Main Event. 490 00:23:56,330 --> 00:24:00,970 Saturday Night's Main Event was finally going to be the Rockers winning the Tag 491 00:24:00,971 --> 00:24:04,030 Team Championship against Bret Hart and Jim the Animal Neidhart. 492 00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:07,270 It was going to be five stars. 493 00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:09,450 It was going to be as good a match as we ever had. 494 00:24:11,230 --> 00:24:15,970 We're in the process of having that match and all of a sudden, the rope breaks. 495 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:21,830 Bret, the consummate pro, he understands it's not live, it's taped. 496 00:24:21,831 --> 00:24:23,130 We can fix all this. 497 00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:23,610 It's taped. 498 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:26,830 All you got to do is grab a hold and then they'll fix it. 499 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:29,430 And then you're still in that hold and the match can carry on. 500 00:24:29,610 --> 00:24:31,870 And I told him, I said, just fix the rope. 501 00:24:32,030 --> 00:24:32,730 Fix the rope. 502 00:24:32,790 --> 00:24:33,330 Fix the rope. 503 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:34,430 We'll take care of this. 504 00:24:34,770 --> 00:24:37,370 And then we get word just to continue without it. 505 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:39,870 So, that's what we do. 506 00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:44,030 It was a disaster and I was so sick about it. 507 00:24:44,530 --> 00:24:46,270 We get our championship victory. 508 00:24:46,330 --> 00:24:50,728 We are doing our best to look excited in what 509 00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:54,570 is this huge, steaming pile of crap in the ring. 510 00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:56,230 It just looked horrible. 511 00:24:56,350 --> 00:24:57,770 So, the match never aired. 512 00:24:58,350 --> 00:25:02,310 Vince calls me and said, we're not going to acknowledge that you won. 513 00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:03,850 We're going to give the belts back. 514 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:06,570 I go, okay. 515 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:08,686 Are we going to have another opportunity to do that? 516 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:10,830 No, we're probably just going to go another direction. 517 00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:17,210 Unbelievably disappointed because that's not what you imagine that moment being. 518 00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:17,950 Done. 519 00:25:18,030 --> 00:25:19,030 It's over. 520 00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:27,510 We were on the road 300 days a year for years. 521 00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:31,670 Same hotel, same rent-a-car. 522 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:34,710 Some of the same girls. 523 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:43,070 I remember we were in Denver. 524 00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:46,730 Roddy Piper came into the room and we had a few girls there. 525 00:25:47,065 --> 00:25:49,550 And Roddy kept bragging on Shawn. 526 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:52,432 He was stirring up the pot as far as saying, you 527 00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:55,230 know, I could be a singles and have great success. 528 00:25:55,231 --> 00:25:56,910 And things like that. 529 00:25:57,370 --> 00:25:59,586 And he'd look at me and go, well, you got to work on you. 530 00:25:59,610 --> 00:26:01,050 You're still rough around the edges. 531 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,650 I was like, Roddy, shouldn't we talk about that some other time? 532 00:26:05,490 --> 00:26:07,890 And Shawn shoved me at that point. 533 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:12,646 Everybody got in a fight because everybody was 534 00:26:12,647 --> 00:26:14,870 not in their, you know, best frame of mind. 535 00:26:15,030 --> 00:26:16,030 Like all the time. 536 00:26:16,750 --> 00:26:18,350 And he tackled me in the hallway. 537 00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:21,650 And then I didn't want to hit him once, let alone, you know, over and over. 538 00:26:21,870 --> 00:26:25,210 I had blood like, it looked like, you know, gutted a deer or something. 539 00:26:25,230 --> 00:26:29,590 You have a speculation that Molly Jannetty and Shawn Michaels are not getting along. 540 00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:33,630 You have a speculation that Shawn Michaels is kind of wanting to go on his own. 541 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:36,170 All of my success at that point was tag teams. 542 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:39,990 But there was never a time in my career where someone 543 00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:43,130 didn't say to me, like, I think you've got some talent. 544 00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:45,470 It was eventually going to come down to me. 545 00:26:46,790 --> 00:26:50,770 I remember when the first time he told me, I want to be the world champion one day. 546 00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:53,190 I don't want to tag the rest of our career. 547 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:54,930 I just need you to let me know. 548 00:26:54,931 --> 00:26:57,070 When you're ready for that, don't spring it on me. 549 00:26:57,130 --> 00:26:58,570 And then he sprung it on me anyway. 550 00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:03,570 Welcome to the barbershop, ladies and gentlemen. 551 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:05,750 Let's welcome them right now. 552 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:07,430 They're the Rockers. 553 00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:14,010 Recently there's been a lot of controversy, a lot of rumors flying, guys. 554 00:27:14,290 --> 00:27:16,050 Maybe you guys are going to break up. 555 00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:17,690 You've been having some problems. 556 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,409 I didn't become familiar with Shawn until he 557 00:27:21,410 --> 00:27:24,910 showed up in WWE with Marty Jannetty as the Rocker. 558 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:27,350 That's my first introduction to Shawn Michaels. 559 00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:29,690 See, one without the other. 560 00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:34,980 I just knew he was going to do that. 561 00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:44,530 I would argue the barbershop window is the greatest tag team breakup of all time. 562 00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:48,050 It is the standard bearer for turning on a friend. 563 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:49,310 It's super good. 564 00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:50,530 Oh, he laid again. 565 00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:53,610 Oh, he got me back for Denver. 566 00:27:54,995 --> 00:27:56,430 Is there a problem? 567 00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:57,830 Oh, my God. 568 00:27:58,150 --> 00:28:05,410 It was so effective that it makes Shawn one of the most hated men in wrestling. 569 00:28:06,190 --> 00:28:09,310 Shawn Michaels changed forever on that day. 570 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,995 I had this strange thing with Marty because without 571 00:28:19,996 --> 00:28:24,420 him, so much of the good doesn't happen for me. 572 00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:27,380 But there's a ceiling on being a tag team, period. 573 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,617 Whether it's called a leading man as opposed to 574 00:28:30,618 --> 00:28:33,221 a leading duo, it's just a natural evolution. 575 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:38,040 Now everybody is going to find out what Shawn Michaels has known all along, 576 00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:41,154 that he is without a doubt the hottest thing the World 577 00:28:41,155 --> 00:28:44,300 Wrestling Federation has ever, ever laid eyes on. 578 00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:53,082 The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels was something 579 00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:55,700 that Shawn just pretty much came up with. 580 00:28:55,780 --> 00:29:00,280 I don't think that anybody really mapped out the Heartbreak Kid. 581 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,980 It's sort of an Elvis meets Freddie Mercury. 582 00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:09,780 Shawn Michaels is leaving the building. 583 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:15,000 It was allowing me a vehicle to let this other person out. 584 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,046 To get out there in front of a bunch of people 585 00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:20,660 and you can just be somebody you've never been. 586 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,300 Has this guy got it all or what? 587 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,360 No, I don't know where all that came from. 588 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:25,300 I really don't. 589 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:27,940 He figured Shawn Michaels could do whatever he wanted to. 590 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,440 What, an alter ego? 591 00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:30,060 Maybe. 592 00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:33,250 The Kentucky Waterfall mullet alone, probably 593 00:29:33,251 --> 00:29:35,620 one of the greatest mullets of all time. 594 00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:36,480 He is arrogant. 595 00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:37,780 He's talking. 596 00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:40,220 The dangling earrings, the Village People outfit. 597 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,940 Your girlfriend wants him. 598 00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:44,040 You're gonna go up and kick his ass. 599 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:46,420 But maybe he's gonna kick yours and take her anyway. 600 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,400 And that's where his heat was. 601 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:49,960 I was a pretty kid. 602 00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:51,340 I was a pretty man. 603 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,180 I don't mind telling you at one time. 604 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,961 Could play the part of Mr. Confident and everything 605 00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:57,860 else and could do everything under the sun. 606 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Couldn't do a lick. 607 00:29:59,405 --> 00:30:01,640 Elvis and Freddie Mercury were on stage. 608 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,800 They were so... 609 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,440 frickin' positive. 610 00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:06,820 But in their lives, they struggled. 611 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,160 There was something there between me and those individuals that I could relate to. 612 00:30:12,380 --> 00:30:14,100 You're not comfortable with who you are. 613 00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:15,476 You're not comfortable with yourself. 614 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,880 Not knowing who I was as a human being. 615 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,457 Out there, you're playing this role, but you 616 00:30:21,458 --> 00:30:24,761 can do it with just unbridled confidence. 617 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,500 And you absolutely cannot do it by yourself in your own hotel room. 618 00:30:29,805 --> 00:30:32,440 I am a high-performance, state-of-the-art wrestling machine. 619 00:30:32,441 --> 00:30:35,606 I think any great character will be confused 620 00:30:35,607 --> 00:30:37,980 between the human being and the character. 621 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:43,160 And Shawn Higginbottom kind of morphed into the Heartbreak Kid at all times. 622 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,420 Shawn was becoming a little bit more difficult. 623 00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:49,280 And the Intercontinental title is coming to the sexiest man! 624 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:54,660 The WWE was still the land of the giants, and there were still a lot of big guys. 625 00:30:55,105 --> 00:30:59,080 And Shawn wanted to break through what he considered a glass ceiling of, 626 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:07,100 I'm not 6'8", I'm not 300 pounds, I want to be what I am, and I want to be the guy. 627 00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:13,780 When you are that talented, and that hell-bent on succeeding, to have the chip 628 00:31:13,781 --> 00:31:17,220 on your shoulder of being the little guy, to get to where he needs to be, 629 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,336 to stand his ground, he had to fight for what he wanted. 630 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,504 I was at the very least as good or better than, you 631 00:31:22,505 --> 00:31:25,360 know, anybody else that I was sharing a locker room with. 632 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,020 I was getting an opportunity that not many guys like me were gonna get. 633 00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:30,940 We gotta do it, Intercontinental Champion! 634 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:37,080 Shawn may have been 6'1", but his eagle and the chip on his shoulder made him 9'5". 635 00:31:37,081 --> 00:31:40,100 Shawn Michaels, he's our Intercontinental Champion! 636 00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:45,300 By 92, 93, Intercontinental Champion at the time, we're looking for Shawn to 637 00:31:45,301 --> 00:31:48,580 really step up and become a huge star for us. 638 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000 One thing I did have is I wasn't scared of anything. 639 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,620 I was the most dangerous person in the world because I had nothing to lose. 640 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,840 And when you are like that in a creative line of work, you are freaking unbeatable. 641 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:12,928 In the process of studying Shawn Michaels' matches, the one 642 00:32:12,929 --> 00:32:16,000 that many people go back to is the infamous ladder match. 643 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,320 The match that Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon made famous at WrestleMania 10. 644 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,200 We are making history here! 645 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,880 So right before WrestleMania 10 leading up, there was a suspension with Shawn 646 00:32:26,881 --> 00:32:29,080 where Shawn had been out of the company for a while. 647 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,700 Shawn left as the Intercontinental Champion. 648 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,580 Yeah, he failed a drug test for roids. 649 00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:38,320 At that time, brother, pills were being passed around in bars. 650 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:41,080 Like, guys go, here man, Canadian Vibe, here, take this. 651 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,700 Shawn did not feel that he should have been suspended, was pissed off. 652 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:50,721 Vince didn't want to put up with him, thought he was an out of control egomaniac. 653 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:55,500 And they tell Shawn to send the belt back and he says, no, I'm not sending it back. 654 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Shawn decides he wants to come back. 655 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,820 Well, Razor is Intercontinental Champion. 656 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320 So take both championship belts, hang them above the ring. 657 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,840 You fight to climb the ladder. 658 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:08,800 Whoever gets championships above the ring, that's your true champion. 659 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:12,600 The two Intercontinental Championship belts hanging from above. 660 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,440 For the following contest, there are no rules. 661 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,820 It's the most barbaric, insane car crash excitement you've ever seen. 662 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,960 I was able to have a presence that I don't think they knew that I had. 663 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:41,920 It isn't about size, it is about presence. 664 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,260 Shawn actually lost the match. 665 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,226 But it put Shawn at a different level that people 666 00:33:52,227 --> 00:33:55,841 believed this little bastard could do anything. 667 00:33:58,930 --> 00:34:05,230 If you didn't before, or you didn't want to believe, Shawn made you believe. 668 00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:13,490 She closed it, just dropped it to the side. 669 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:16,350 Boom, and then she said, okay, mister, here we go, whatever. 670 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:18,350 I don't know, just throwing it out there. 671 00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:21,310 This weekend we have one of our bigger events. 672 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:22,690 Five-man ladder match. 673 00:34:23,490 --> 00:34:25,170 Someone will be holding that right there. 674 00:34:25,450 --> 00:34:29,530 Many, many years ago, it was just two of us and one ladder. 675 00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:32,930 And now these young men and women have taken it to a whole other level. 676 00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:34,710 You got a lot of moving parts. 677 00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:37,601 I always dreamed of being in a ladder match, 678 00:34:37,613 --> 00:34:40,111 obviously, because of Shawn and Razor. 679 00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:47,110 Ladder matches are about crazy stunts, big falls, the car crash come to life. 680 00:34:47,330 --> 00:34:49,190 He is the face of the ladder match. 681 00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:51,110 And to have him kind of help us out, have him 682 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:53,110 kind of watch over us, you can't dream it up. 683 00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:54,290 It's perfect. 684 00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:04,070 I met him in the locker room in 1993. 685 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:08,410 And wanted to know if I would be interested in becoming his partner. 686 00:35:08,430 --> 00:35:08,890 Shawn is a bodyguard. 687 00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:14,250 And the first thing out of Shawn's mouth is, just so you know, everybody hates us. 688 00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:18,070 The bodyguard position was 24-7. 689 00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:20,410 It wasn't just on television persona. 690 00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:22,650 He had a lot of people that didn't like him. 691 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:27,170 Shawn Michaels was misunderstood all throughout his career. 692 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:30,230 There was a certain perception that he was a, frankly. 693 00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:32,150 Shawn was selfish. 694 00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:34,370 Shawn did have an out-of-control ego. 695 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:36,890 And Shawn did feel he was better than everybody else. 696 00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:38,750 He was successful. 697 00:35:39,110 --> 00:35:43,450 And to take it to the next level, you have to start looking out for yourself. 698 00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:44,870 It's not a team sport. 699 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:51,930 The one thing that was the saving grace for Shawn was, he was so good in the ring. 700 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,890 As a performer, if you work with a guy that makes you look that good, 701 00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:58,490 I don't care what you think of him, you want to work with him. 702 00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:05,270 Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, 123kid, and then Paul Levesque, Triple H. 703 00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:07,590 These were guys that loved hanging out together. 704 00:36:07,591 --> 00:36:12,010 And hence, the clique began to form. 705 00:36:13,350 --> 00:36:14,890 We all just hit it off, man. 706 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:17,750 It was, you know, all we did was talk nonstop about the business. 707 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:20,450 And, you know, we were all just so passionate about it. 708 00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,690 The perception was that the clique was all-knowing and all-powerful. 709 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:25,771 And that if you crossed the clique, they'll 710 00:36:25,772 --> 00:36:27,850 just go to events and you'll be blackballed. 711 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:29,590 They couldn't call any of the shots. 712 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:30,910 But I listened. 713 00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:32,770 And they had some really good ideas. 714 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:34,530 Really smart, individually. 715 00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:37,330 And Shawn was very smart when he sold around. 716 00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:43,310 Shawn had an attitude when he drank, even more so, on top of pills. 717 00:36:43,650 --> 00:36:46,730 And Shawn would say, you know, the wrong thing at the wrong time. 718 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:50,370 And he was protected in the WB environment. 719 00:36:50,570 --> 00:36:52,770 You know, but outside of the environment. 720 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,290 Shawn Michaels, British Bulldog, 123kid, walk into a bar. 721 00:36:58,490 --> 00:37:01,250 Me, Scott, and Kev were in Europe. 722 00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:03,330 It was where we find out that this all happened. 723 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:05,810 A bunch of Marines in a tough bar. 724 00:37:05,811 --> 00:37:08,700 Every eye in that place turns to the three wrestlers that 725 00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:12,010 just walked in the door, of which Shawn is the megastar. 726 00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:14,970 Every girl in that place starts to look at Shawn. 727 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:17,010 Shawn is very enamored with that. 728 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:20,530 And Shawn is at this point in his life like, what the are you looking at? 729 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:21,910 A problem jarhead? 730 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:23,630 They go to walk out. 731 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:25,623 Six Marines walk out, beat the out of 732 00:37:25,635 --> 00:37:27,891 Shawn, and leave him in the side of the car. 733 00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:32,170 And the last thing I can remember is, you know, there being the coat check. 734 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:35,150 The next thing is waking up in the hospital. 735 00:37:36,370 --> 00:37:38,970 And everything else is a complete blank. 736 00:37:39,830 --> 00:37:42,350 That was four days out of a seven day week. 737 00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:44,430 Situations like that. 738 00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:48,510 Getting beat up by nine guys in Syracuse, to me, there's not a whole lot of shame in. 739 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:51,610 You know, that kind of stuff just sort of happens to me. 740 00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:52,790 I've got two choices. 741 00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:55,570 Sit home and cry, or to come out and be a pain. 742 00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:56,830 I got news for you folks. 743 00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:58,430 I'm all cried out. 744 00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:01,710 His moment of existence was the 20 minutes in the ring every night. 745 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:03,450 He wouldn't be messed up. 746 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:05,410 He'd go in there and he'd kill it every night. 747 00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:10,070 And then the second he was done, I'm in pain. 748 00:38:10,850 --> 00:38:13,790 And I took some stuff, so I wouldn't be in pain this morning. 749 00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:14,570 But I'm not messed up. 750 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:16,910 Why would you hang out with this misery 24-7? 751 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:17,410 No, it's not. 752 00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:18,850 It's, again, like your brother. 753 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:20,610 It's like a family member. 754 00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:22,950 Shawn owes his life to Triple H. 755 00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:24,670 Paul Levesque owes his life to him. 756 00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:29,346 Shawn Michaels knows that the greatest match 757 00:38:29,358 --> 00:38:32,590 of his life must come this Sunday night. 758 00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:37,670 By the time you get to the mid-90s, Bret Hart has become a crowd favorite. 759 00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:41,630 Bret is a very soft-spoken, quiet Canadian gentleman. 760 00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:45,690 Shawn is an outspoken, loud, brash American. 761 00:38:46,070 --> 00:38:49,730 Only one person can be the absolute alpha dog. 762 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:52,910 The Iron Man match, the boyhood dream realized. 763 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:57,230 It added another layer to the Shawn Michaels character. 764 00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,872 The Iron Man match is the opportunity where I get 765 00:39:00,873 --> 00:39:02,950 to, you know, get my first world championship. 766 00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:04,230 There's only one! 767 00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:05,730 Heartbreak kick! 768 00:39:06,610 --> 00:39:07,610 Unbelievable! 769 00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:08,650 What a ride! 770 00:39:09,850 --> 00:39:11,290 An hour-long match. 771 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,430 It's going to be a long night at the office in wrestling terms. 772 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:17,930 For the World Wrestling Federation Championship! 773 00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:20,370 We started to have our issues. 774 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:23,570 You know, I was never big on the click idea. 775 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:25,990 It was a testy match in a lot of ways. 776 00:39:30,430 --> 00:39:33,290 There's a famous part where I jump off the second rope. 777 00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:34,270 That's it! 778 00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:38,210 He comes up and kicks me in the face as hard as he could. 779 00:39:38,211 --> 00:39:39,486 I mean, he almost knocked me out. 780 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:40,510 Oh my goodness! 781 00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:42,670 We stiffed each other a lot of times in that match. 782 00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:43,310 Wait a minute! 783 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:44,570 He got it! 784 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:45,710 He got it! 785 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,620 The boyhood dream! 786 00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:59,930 Boyhood dreams come true because that was Shawn's boyhood dream. 787 00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:00,410 It was. 788 00:40:00,610 --> 00:40:02,550 And that's exactly what happened. 789 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:05,070 It was a very big moment for my career. 790 00:40:05,410 --> 00:40:07,410 It's like, oh, it's your first world championship. 791 00:40:07,550 --> 00:40:08,290 And you go like, oh. 792 00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:09,690 I picture it being different. 793 00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:11,450 I wasn't at a good place and all that. 794 00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:12,190 All that kind of stuff. 795 00:40:12,450 --> 00:40:14,910 There's a lot of responsibility that goes with that. 796 00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:18,690 Now every guy in that locker room, their well-being, their life, their 797 00:40:18,691 --> 00:40:23,350 livelihood and all that, depends on the job that you do. 798 00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:25,670 You know, it all falls on your shoulders. 799 00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:27,780 The whole thing was uncomfortable. 800 00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:34,890 As we got into 1996, Ted Turner, who owned WCW, our competitors, 801 00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:41,150 was being very aggressive in his quest for new talent. 802 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:47,870 Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, they were going to leave and go to Ted Turner's WCW. 803 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,530 The last matches being in New York in Madison Square Garden. 804 00:40:53,850 --> 00:41:00,610 On May 19th, 1996, one of the greatest days of wrestling and my life as well. 805 00:41:00,830 --> 00:41:04,690 Me and my friend went to a house show, which was not televised. 806 00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:08,450 We would sneak in a camera past security and we would film the shows. 807 00:41:09,350 --> 00:41:11,430 Shawn was my hero back then. 808 00:41:11,431 --> 00:41:12,710 He was my idol growing up. 809 00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:17,330 The ending shows Shawn Michaels giving Diesel a super kick. 810 00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:18,510 Match is over. 811 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:22,310 And then, all of a sudden, Razor Moon comes out. 812 00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:23,110 I'm like, oh, cool. 813 00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:26,330 They start hugging and I'm screaming like a little girl. 814 00:41:26,890 --> 00:41:30,830 It was this and it turns out to be Hunter Hearst Hounsley. 815 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:33,670 They all start hugging and, you know, obviously saying goodbye. 816 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,100 It was insane. 817 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:36,410 That night was magical. 818 00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:40,570 The business was well protected. 819 00:41:40,571 --> 00:41:41,990 Up until then. 820 00:41:42,110 --> 00:41:43,910 And our camera still kept going. 821 00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:45,870 The only camera that was there. 822 00:41:46,110 --> 00:41:48,329 If we were not involved in taping the current 823 00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:51,270 call, it would not be talked about as much today. 824 00:41:52,090 --> 00:41:53,890 Place is going insane. 825 00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:56,630 Everybody knows everything on the inside of the business. 826 00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:57,370 There's no secrets. 827 00:41:57,650 --> 00:42:00,110 People in the business, they didn't like it. 828 00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:01,946 They thought it was the worst thing that happened. 829 00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:06,010 Here's this bad guy who we have no idea is friends with all these other guys. 830 00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:10,550 It's breaking the fourth wall and just telling people everything you do is wrong. 831 00:42:10,551 --> 00:42:12,810 The only thing we just did is **** Shawn Michaels. 832 00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:15,508 He's now hugging and kissing the guy that he 833 00:42:15,509 --> 00:42:17,650 just spent 20 minutes beating the hell out of. 834 00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:19,790 We entertained you, but now it's all over. 835 00:42:19,850 --> 00:42:20,890 We're really good buddies. 836 00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:22,410 Taboo in the wrestling business. 837 00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:25,810 The tape was leaked out to a writer. 838 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:28,030 The tape blows up on its own. 839 00:42:28,410 --> 00:42:30,010 I had no idea it was going to happen. 840 00:42:30,210 --> 00:42:32,750 It was something that's never been done before. 841 00:42:33,330 --> 00:42:37,270 I'm watching this and going, what the hell is going on? 842 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:39,290 The click was an insult to our business. 843 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:42,350 They had done that in the 70s, early 80s. 844 00:42:42,735 --> 00:42:44,615 They had all four fingers **** beat out of them. 845 00:42:45,035 --> 00:42:47,630 They wrestled each other and they all kissed and said goodbye. 846 00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:49,950 Somebody's got to go down for it. 847 00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:51,170 Kev's gone. 848 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:52,130 Scott's gone. 849 00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:53,410 Shawn's the champ. 850 00:42:53,470 --> 00:42:54,570 Stuff rolls downhill. 851 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:58,110 And, yeah, it all rolled on me. 852 00:42:58,710 --> 00:43:04,104 Triple H is the one that probably paid the heaviest price as 853 00:43:04,105 --> 00:43:07,550 far as his career kind of hitting a roadblock at that point. 854 00:43:07,895 --> 00:43:09,175 Shawn didn't really pay a price. 855 00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:12,230 I was inherently selfish regardless. 856 00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:17,950 So I'm sure I didn't feel the, you know, the compassion for him as I, 857 00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:20,030 maybe as I should have. 858 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,510 There was a bit of a shutdown on Shawn. 859 00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:26,430 Business is, it's okay, but it's not great. 860 00:43:26,830 --> 00:43:29,970 You know, there's a lot of banter about Shawn's not working as champion. 861 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:31,690 He's not drawing. 862 00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:33,890 He's collapsing under the pressure. 863 00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:35,830 I can see him falling apart. 864 00:43:36,190 --> 00:43:37,730 Kevin and Scott are gone. 865 00:43:38,330 --> 00:43:39,330 And I'm all he's got now. 866 00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:40,610 He's a mess. 867 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,670 I felt a lot of pressure and I didn't handle it well. 868 00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:46,490 For me, it was, it was all about running and escaping. 869 00:43:46,850 --> 00:43:50,830 And honestly, you know, it was running and escaping from the dude I'd become. 870 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:53,070 Better than having to face that. 871 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,370 How about I just take a few of these and knock myself out. 872 00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:58,230 I wouldn't pay attention to it till tomorrow. 873 00:43:58,370 --> 00:44:00,270 He'd be pilled up, passed out. 874 00:44:00,630 --> 00:44:01,890 Put Shawn on a luggage cart. 875 00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:03,850 Roll him up to his room. 876 00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:04,830 Get him undressed. 877 00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:07,190 Dig dip out of his mouth and put him on his side. 878 00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:08,070 Put a pillow behind him. 879 00:44:08,071 --> 00:44:10,026 So he wouldn't roll over and choke to death in his sleep. 880 00:44:10,050 --> 00:44:13,430 And set an alarm and get up every two, three hours to go check on him. 881 00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:15,170 And that was every night. 882 00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:17,570 You know, every night. 883 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:18,670 Sad existence. 884 00:44:20,530 --> 00:44:27,470 What everybody has to understand about Shawn Michaels is this. 885 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:32,510 I want to come out here and look like a blithering idiot on live TV. 886 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:34,910 Believe me, I'm gonna do it. 887 00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:35,490 Why? 888 00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:37,150 Because I can. 889 00:44:37,151 --> 00:44:38,151 Yeah! 890 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:40,470 He had a drug problem for a while. 891 00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:41,790 A serious one. 892 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:45,730 And he kind of fell in the hole even deeper. 893 00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:50,361 But it wasn't until he became champion that I 894 00:44:50,362 --> 00:44:54,851 felt that Shawn started to question himself. 895 00:44:55,950 --> 00:44:59,250 I called his dad, the colonel, and said, I'd like to visit. 896 00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:01,430 So I flew down to meet him. 897 00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:03,930 And I'm saying, you're probably not aware of this. 898 00:45:04,510 --> 00:45:06,530 Shawn really has a drug problem. 899 00:45:07,150 --> 00:45:08,150 The colonel got angry. 900 00:45:08,850 --> 00:45:11,010 He just didn't want to hear it. 901 00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:14,170 I don't know that anybody knew how to address it. 902 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:15,550 Even things like rehab. 903 00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:17,510 My parents, you know, God love them. 904 00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:19,970 I don't know that they knew what it was that you did. 905 00:45:20,030 --> 00:45:21,150 Except just to be worried. 906 00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:23,650 Not long after that, I tweaked my knee. 907 00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:25,870 Michaels up, out, and down. 908 00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:30,510 I went to this doctor in San Antonio who doesn't know anything about wrestling. 909 00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:32,230 And obviously, he sees I've tore my ACL. 910 00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:33,530 He's like, dude, you're dumb. 911 00:45:34,090 --> 00:45:36,110 You're not wrestling with a torn ACL. 912 00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:43,110 I know that over the last several months, I've lost a lot of things. 913 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:44,550 And one of them has been my smile. 914 00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:48,930 He went in the ring to announce he was retiring because he had a bad knee. 915 00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:51,590 I didn't believe his knee was the issue. 916 00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:54,573 I always thought the issue was he didn't want to 917 00:45:54,574 --> 00:45:57,451 wrestle me at WrestleMania 13 and drop the belt to me. 918 00:45:57,770 --> 00:46:01,390 I doubted Shawn's integrity as far as his injury went. 919 00:46:01,810 --> 00:46:03,330 You phony little faker. 920 00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:05,670 Why don't you take your little pussyfoot injury? 921 00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:06,290 No. 922 00:46:06,370 --> 00:46:06,590 No. 923 00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 924 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 925 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 926 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 927 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 928 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 929 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 930 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 931 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 932 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 933 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 934 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 935 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 936 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130 No. 937 00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:07,690 It's all right. 938 00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:07,790 No. 939 00:46:07,930 --> 00:46:08,190 No. 940 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:08,710 I'm not going anywhere. 941 00:46:08,711 --> 00:46:10,290 Go back and find your smile. 942 00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:12,270 I got accused of faking it. 943 00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:13,890 Bret told everybody I was faking it. 944 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:16,850 My excuse is, drug addicts lie all the time. 945 00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:21,090 Well, there's no doubt that you found your smile again as you stated... 946 00:46:21,091 --> 00:46:23,251 A year off of the wrestling business was a year no pay. 947 00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:26,256 That's just not... that isn't feasible, and he said, 948 00:46:26,257 --> 00:46:30,170 well, look, you can put a brace on it and wrap it up. 949 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:32,150 They went and they got me a brace and everything else. 950 00:46:32,170 --> 00:46:33,890 I was like, okay, I can do this. 951 00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:36,970 But it's time for the Heartbreak Kid. 952 00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:43,890 This was a moment where things needed to change. 953 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,840 Business was bad. 954 00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:47,590 WCW was starting to kill us. 955 00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:49,350 Put Shawn and I together on TV. 956 00:46:49,650 --> 00:46:52,350 We will multiply each other's personalities on screen. 957 00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:53,990 Put us together. 958 00:46:54,430 --> 00:46:55,430 DX is born. 959 00:47:02,570 --> 00:47:06,410 Degeneration X consisted of Shawn, Triple H, and Chyna. 960 00:47:06,411 --> 00:47:09,850 Two goofs in Shawn and Hunter that were immature 961 00:47:09,851 --> 00:47:13,410 and did everything that you weren't supposed to do. 962 00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:17,490 Shawn Michaels, you're a disgrace to professional wrestling. 963 00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:21,230 I saw it as inmates had taken over the asylum. 964 00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:24,590 I'm gonna start with that degenerate right beside you in the green shirt. 965 00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:26,570 Degeneration X! 966 00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:27,630 Suck it! 967 00:47:29,070 --> 00:47:31,170 Yeah, I can't say I liked it. 968 00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:33,670 The smut and the crotch shots. 969 00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:35,290 It did get pretty raunchy. 970 00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:36,390 I liked it. 971 00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:37,706 I don't think it was over the line. 972 00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:40,630 You know, we were getting our tails kicked in the ratings. 973 00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:46,070 DX took it to the very, very tipping point of going too far. 974 00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:48,170 But that's what we needed. 975 00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:51,310 It was kind of a whole facelift for the company. 976 00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:52,270 They loved it. 977 00:47:52,430 --> 00:47:53,430 Raiders are going up. 978 00:47:53,650 --> 00:47:54,510 Your segments are hot. 979 00:47:54,670 --> 00:47:55,890 We are Degeneration X! 980 00:47:55,950 --> 00:47:59,290 You make your rules and we will break them! 981 00:47:59,650 --> 00:48:01,170 They were the anti-authority. 982 00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:02,730 They could do anything they wanted. 983 00:48:03,110 --> 00:48:04,590 We were just trying to make each other laugh. 984 00:48:04,591 --> 00:48:06,252 Say something so stupid that people would 985 00:48:06,253 --> 00:48:07,890 go, oh my God, I can't believe he said that. 986 00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:12,050 Your old lady is not too thrilled with your privates. 987 00:48:12,370 --> 00:48:15,010 You would think, like, okay, so everything's great backstage with Sean. 988 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:15,170 No. 989 00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:17,530 We're still approaching this from a place of anger. 990 00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:20,170 We know we're pissing people off and we're trying to be dicks. 991 00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:22,610 I got in trouble for a lot of stuff. 992 00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:26,830 That we all thought was funny and clearly we might have been the only ones. 993 00:48:27,305 --> 00:48:30,390 I'm going out in a blaze of glory! 994 00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:38,890 At that point, Sean's DX personality and his real personality have kind of morphed. 995 00:48:38,891 --> 00:48:41,250 So Sean really never turned it off. 996 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:43,250 This is what it's come down to. 997 00:48:43,410 --> 00:48:47,070 You're looking at somebody that's got no respect for anything. 998 00:48:47,570 --> 00:48:51,230 There was a true animosity between Brett and Sean. 999 00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:53,390 It just spiraled completely out of control. 1000 00:48:53,770 --> 00:48:57,070 In the beginning, Sean and Brett were friends. 1001 00:48:57,310 --> 00:49:03,510 And the antagonistic, the antagonistic relationship that they had on camera, 1002 00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:05,370 that was all orchestrated. 1003 00:49:06,190 --> 00:49:07,490 But it became personal. 1004 00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:09,650 It became personal between Brett and Sean. 1005 00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:11,370 Because one guy would go too far. 1006 00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:15,270 I never knew enough to avoid the confrontation. 1007 00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:18,090 If something bothered Brett, I made sure that I did it. 1008 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:20,810 He stabbed the World Wrestling Federation in the back. 1009 00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:21,410 Why? 1010 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:23,870 For his financial gain. 1011 00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:29,151 Instead of facing me like a man, you're too busy posing for girly magazines. 1012 00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:31,714 You know, I know you don't like me talking about you 1013 00:49:31,794 --> 00:49:33,910 posing for Playgirl, but you did pose for Playgirl. 1014 00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:38,690 And we finally had a fisticuff in the dressing room. 1015 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:39,510 Oh, my God. 1016 00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:40,793 Brett and Sean just get into a fight and pull 1017 00:49:40,794 --> 00:49:41,890 each other's hair out of the locker room. 1018 00:49:41,950 --> 00:49:42,230 I'm like, what? 1019 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:44,210 And run over there and find Sean. 1020 00:49:44,211 --> 00:49:45,786 He had a big chunk of hair missing on the side. 1021 00:49:45,810 --> 00:49:46,430 He's like, what are you doing? 1022 00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:48,310 I realize that I hate your guts. 1023 00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:50,570 We had a lot of these resets and talks. 1024 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:54,810 And we would always end up offending each other quickly right after that. 1025 00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:11,390 Brett is the champion. 1026 00:50:11,391 --> 00:50:14,250 But Brett's on his way to WCW. 1027 00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:18,590 And he doesn't want to drop the title to Sean. 1028 00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:21,668 But they couldn't let Brett leave with the 1029 00:50:21,669 --> 00:50:24,710 title and then show up on WCW TV the next night. 1030 00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:25,890 Who's gonna win? 1031 00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:28,890 I don't know. 1032 00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:31,630 Brett thought the match was going to go one way. 1033 00:50:32,190 --> 00:50:35,190 Sean and Vince McMahon come up with a different plan. 1034 00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:37,710 Brett doesn't know about the plan. 1035 00:50:38,290 --> 00:50:41,370 We're being told by Vince, like, this goes nowhere. 1036 00:50:41,390 --> 00:50:42,390 This goes to your grave. 1037 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:45,730 This is high-level espionage, man. 1038 00:50:46,330 --> 00:50:47,610 Nobody ever knows this. 1039 00:50:48,270 --> 00:50:49,910 It's kind of what's best for business. 1040 00:50:50,370 --> 00:50:50,970 Look out! 1041 00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:53,410 Sean Blackwell is not gonna waste any time. 1042 00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:54,990 The whole thing was uncomfortable. 1043 00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:59,050 I was out there, you know, whatever being Judas. 1044 00:51:04,570 --> 00:51:10,330 They had created a spot where Sean was gonna put Brett's move, which is a 1045 00:51:10,331 --> 00:51:12,870 submission hold, the sharpshooter, on Brett. 1046 00:51:13,210 --> 00:51:14,210 Look at this! 1047 00:51:14,890 --> 00:51:16,010 Oh, you're kidding me. 1048 00:51:16,510 --> 00:51:20,130 It's definitely one of the most fabled stories in our industry. 1049 00:51:20,330 --> 00:51:21,570 The Montreal Screwdrop. 1050 00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:26,148 Just minutes into that match, not one person on 1051 00:51:26,149 --> 00:51:29,831 planet Earth thinks the match is going to end. 1052 00:51:30,010 --> 00:51:31,270 Are you kidding me? 1053 00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:42,248 So when all of a sudden the bell rings, there's 1054 00:51:42,249 --> 00:51:45,250 complete confusion as to why the match has ended. 1055 00:51:45,350 --> 00:51:46,650 What happened? 1056 00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:48,630 Brett Hart gave up on the sharpshooter! 1057 00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:51,330 He said Brett submitted, which didn't happen. 1058 00:51:51,930 --> 00:51:53,570 Wow, you talk about controversy. 1059 00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:58,630 It was basically a hit to make sure that they got the title off of Brett. 1060 00:52:01,150 --> 00:52:04,010 I could see Vince yell at him to ring the bell. 1061 00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:07,850 Like, they're trying to screw me now. 1062 00:52:08,050 --> 00:52:09,290 Michael with a sharpshooter! 1063 00:52:09,450 --> 00:52:10,130 That's the cut! 1064 00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:11,970 The WWF champion! 1065 00:52:12,610 --> 00:52:15,290 And Brett Hart is standing in disbelief! 1066 00:52:15,291 --> 00:52:16,291 Amazing! 1067 00:52:17,085 --> 00:52:18,406 I didn't know Vince was coming out. 1068 00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:21,730 I think he just felt like maybe if he was out there, he might get some heat off me. 1069 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:24,710 You know, thus making my denial plausible. 1070 00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:26,250 Shawn, you were in on that? 1071 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:29,750 I get to know him, please. 1072 00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:30,930 God's my witness. 1073 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:33,670 My hands are clean this much, I swear to God. 1074 00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:35,670 Vince says, I want to take the heat for this. 1075 00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:38,430 I don't want anyone to think you had anything to do with it. 1076 00:52:38,830 --> 00:52:39,830 He's got it. 1077 00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:41,126 Okay, let's get out of here. 1078 00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:42,050 I took the heat. 1079 00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:45,250 I didn't want anyone to know that Shawn was involved. 1080 00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:48,970 And then Brett comes over and knocked the out of me. 1081 00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:53,310 One punch and knocked him out cold. 1082 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:55,790 He went straight down on his back, out cold. 1083 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,010 And after I knocked Vince out, Shawn was crying. 1084 00:53:02,270 --> 00:53:04,310 Shawn sat on the bench and was crying. 1085 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,350 Even though I didn't feel like I did anything wrong that night, you're still 1086 00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:11,210 carrying a burden by not coming clean with that. 1087 00:53:11,775 --> 00:53:12,815 You just say, yes, I knew. 1088 00:53:14,350 --> 00:53:17,790 Vince asked Shawn to do something for everyone in this company. 1089 00:53:18,370 --> 00:53:22,495 Who else would have had the balls, the guts, right 1090 00:53:22,496 --> 00:53:25,191 or wrong, how many other people would have done it? 1091 00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:29,650 I remember going to his house in San Antonio. 1092 00:53:30,010 --> 00:53:31,930 And I'm driving my minivan down there. 1093 00:53:32,090 --> 00:53:33,690 I've got my wife and three kids at home. 1094 00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:36,350 And I pull into his gorgeous home. 1095 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,050 I don't have 20 bucks in my pocket. 1096 00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:41,270 And I'll never forget, he put his arms out like this. 1097 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:42,650 And he just looked up at me. 1098 00:53:42,651 --> 00:53:45,030 And he goes, you could have had all this. 1099 00:53:46,090 --> 00:53:50,290 But I realized somewhere along the way that I saw him lose so much. 1100 00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:51,230 He got into drugs. 1101 00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:53,710 And there was some really bad side effects to his fame. 1102 00:53:54,330 --> 00:53:57,868 I looked at Kenny a lot of times and having a wife 1103 00:53:57,869 --> 00:54:01,090 and a family and just been as happy as can be. 1104 00:54:01,250 --> 00:54:06,810 And I've always looked at and admired and thought it was pretty enviable to have. 1105 00:54:07,150 --> 00:54:11,770 But with my line of work, it was always wondering, can you have both? 1106 00:54:11,771 --> 00:54:13,530 Or is that not possible? 1107 00:54:13,890 --> 00:54:15,230 They don't mix. 1108 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,334 The following contest is a casket match for 1109 00:54:24,335 --> 00:54:27,951 the World Wrestling Federation Championship. 1110 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,010 This casket match is the Undertaker's specialty. 1111 00:54:35,690 --> 00:54:40,210 The object of a casket match is to beat your opponent down far enough that you can 1112 00:54:40,211 --> 00:54:43,050 throw them into the casket or coffin and shut the lid. 1113 00:54:43,210 --> 00:54:45,710 And if you do that, you win the match. 1114 00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:47,510 He's going to be in the ring. 1115 00:54:47,511 --> 00:54:52,670 Somewhere through the course of that match, I threw him over this giant coffin. 1116 00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:01,340 I wanted to clear it and go to the floor. 1117 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,140 And I just didn't quite get far enough. 1118 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,620 And bam, I just hit their corner. 1119 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,800 But I didn't really think much about it. 1120 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,320 You know, you still finish the match. 1121 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,720 Look at this! 1122 00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:18,547 The next day, I just remember getting up like, ah, 1123 00:55:18,548 --> 00:55:21,081 you know, waking up and not being able to move. 1124 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,720 First time I recall being in that much pain. 1125 00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:26,460 We do all the x-rays. 1126 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,780 Apparently, I blew the disc. 1127 00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:31,420 And that's the kind of stuff that needs to be fused. 1128 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,800 The doctor says, you can't be wrestling after that. 1129 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,500 He said, I'm never going to wrestle again. 1130 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,520 Yadda, yadda, yadda. 1131 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,560 And I said, nobody tells me what to do. 1132 00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:44,240 So we're going to WrestleMania. 1133 00:55:44,241 --> 00:55:45,241 With Steve. 1134 00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:50,200 So you give me enough drugs, all right? 1135 00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:53,580 Let's do whatever we can to get me to WrestleMania. 1136 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,240 Getting Shawn to WrestleMania was a battle. 1137 00:55:58,420 --> 00:55:59,740 He had a bad back. 1138 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,540 He was heavily medicated. 1139 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,816 He is the World Wrestling Federation champion, the 1140 00:56:04,817 --> 00:56:06,940 man who will defend his title against Stone Cold. 1141 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:10,140 But Mike Tyson is the enforcer here, ladies and gentlemen. 1142 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,280 Shawn Michaels. 1143 00:56:11,780 --> 00:56:14,040 I choose to make an ass out of a... 1144 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,000 toughest SOB. 1145 00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:17,500 I can do that any time I want. 1146 00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:27,000 I was going to have to talk myself up and drop the belt to Steve. 1147 00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,860 And then I guess I'll let my career be over. 1148 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,840 He was bitter. 1149 00:56:33,045 --> 00:56:35,700 It had nothing to do with him losing. 1150 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,160 It had to do with being replaced. 1151 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,900 He never had his moment. 1152 00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:40,040 He never had his run. 1153 00:56:40,340 --> 00:56:41,340 I'm still the greatest. 1154 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,760 Now it's his run. 1155 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,100 What do I do? 1156 00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:45,600 I'm the backup guy. 1157 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,596 One of the most messed up things I ever heard Shawn say in his life is, 1158 00:56:48,620 --> 00:56:51,580 I should have taken so many pills I died after WrestleMania 10. 1159 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,440 I'd have been the biggest star of all time. 1160 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,040 I'd have been Elvis. 1161 00:56:56,380 --> 00:56:57,180 It's hopelessness. 1162 00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:58,580 And certainly that's where I was. 1163 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,060 I am not just, you know, a drug addict. 1164 00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:03,960 I'm an angry one. 1165 00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:05,800 And I mean angrier than ever. 1166 00:57:06,460 --> 00:57:08,520 At that time in my life, that's all I had. 1167 00:57:09,460 --> 00:57:12,680 I identified who I was with what I was doing in that ring. 1168 00:57:12,681 --> 00:57:16,060 And without it, I wouldn't have known what to do with my life. 1169 00:57:18,260 --> 00:57:21,480 On the day of WrestleMania 14, we barely talked. 1170 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,080 You know, he didn't feel like doing business with me. 1171 00:57:24,350 --> 00:57:27,220 Triple H was the conduit between most of it. 1172 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,920 He was pissed. 1173 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,440 He wasn't about to talk to Steve about this match. 1174 00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:34,160 I helped him put it together by going from room to room. 1175 00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,300 And it was just, it was so difficult to do. 1176 00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:37,680 It was difficult. 1177 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,760 I remember that day. 1178 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,180 I'm thinking, I don't know what Shawn's going to do. 1179 00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:47,060 If he's retiring, you know, this could be his final screw you. 1180 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,920 Nobody has ever, ever outperformed Shawn Michaels in a big match situation. 1181 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,940 I'm not in great shape. 1182 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,080 My back was pretty bad being in that much pain. 1183 00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:01,420 Got the cortisone shots and stuff like that. 1184 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:01,980 Yeah! 1185 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,360 Oh, God! 1186 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,520 What velocity! 1187 00:58:04,521 --> 00:58:06,040 I feel like I'm putting him over. 1188 00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:06,740 That's good enough. 1189 00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:07,480 Awesome! 1190 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,180 He got it! 1191 00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:09,460 Let's dance! 1192 00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:16,870 Shawn's always a troublemaker. 1193 00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:17,990 He always wants to get in your face. 1194 00:58:17,991 --> 00:58:18,590 Talk. 1195 00:58:18,591 --> 00:58:21,030 Even when he's on your team, he just talks. 1196 00:58:21,031 --> 00:58:21,990 He's an irritant. 1197 00:58:22,050 --> 00:58:23,050 That's what he is. 1198 00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:26,570 Shawn had sour grapes. 1199 00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:34,896 That was kind of a close blow, because Shawn 1200 00:58:34,908 --> 00:58:37,111 was pretty much out for a little while. 1201 00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:43,170 Tyson takes the Austin 316 shirt and lays it across Shawn's chest. 1202 00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:47,330 This was adding insult to injury, and this was rubbing salt in a wound. 1203 00:58:47,530 --> 00:58:48,730 I would have been pissed, too. 1204 00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:51,290 Not exactly the screw job. 1205 00:58:51,291 --> 00:58:54,250 But it was them getting the last laugh, as 1206 00:58:54,251 --> 00:58:57,030 far as, you know, you no good little prick. 1207 00:58:57,130 --> 00:58:58,321 You put us through hell this week, but we're 1208 00:58:58,322 --> 00:59:00,511 at least going to get you going out the door. 1209 00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:04,090 The new World Wrestling Federation champion, Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1210 00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:11,050 He was going to that press conference to just let everybody know, I'm pissed off. 1211 00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:13,350 He walked in the door and he yelled some stuff. 1212 00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:16,210 Oh, yeah, it's up. 1213 00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:18,170 It's selfish and it's stupid. 1214 00:59:18,450 --> 00:59:21,190 But, you know, that's where he was at that time. 1215 00:59:22,070 --> 00:59:25,837 Shawn is suffering from ruptured disc as we speak 1216 00:59:25,838 --> 00:59:29,151 and will not participate at this press conference. 1217 00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:33,810 Nonetheless, he participated in the arena in an extraordinary way. 1218 00:59:33,930 --> 00:59:35,777 And there is no athlete in the world that 1219 00:59:35,778 --> 00:59:39,151 can say they can do what Shawn Michaels does. 1220 00:59:44,660 --> 00:59:50,520 I got on the plane the next morning and went home and began to, I don't know, 1221 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:52,460 let it all sort of sink in. 1222 00:59:53,410 --> 00:59:59,320 It takes some time before it goes from being time off to the reality of how 1223 00:59:59,321 --> 01:00:03,720 exactly is the rest of your life going to go when you're done at 33. 1224 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,220 Okay, see if I can get one done here. 1225 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,640 All they knew at the time was stuff like that you don't recover from. 1226 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,720 People don't get back in the ring and wrestle again. 1227 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,940 The thing is, I can't keep coming out here week after 1228 01:00:18,941 --> 01:00:21,560 week after week going back and forth with all this. 1229 01:00:21,561 --> 01:00:23,040 I've got to get busy with my rehab. 1230 01:00:24,450 --> 01:00:25,450 My physical therapy. 1231 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,340 My physical therapy for my back. 1232 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,000 Now I've got a legitimate reason to have pain pills. 1233 01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:35,400 And I've got a prescription and everything else. 1234 01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:38,120 I just want to be a pro wrestler. 1235 01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:40,680 That's what I was trying to go back to. 1236 01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:44,140 So I began to start the Shawn Michaels Wrestling Academy. 1237 01:00:44,825 --> 01:00:45,560 We had a couple rings. 1238 01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:47,020 I had a little workout room. 1239 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,206 There were a couple guys that came through 1240 01:00:49,207 --> 01:00:51,961 my school that went on to have WWE success. 1241 01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:53,760 It was a great experience. 1242 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,320 It really was. 1243 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,400 I did it for about two and a half, three years. 1244 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,880 So I'm at home and I'm watching TV. 1245 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,380 Then all of a sudden it's the introduction of this new Nitro girl. 1246 01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:07,420 The Tampa Bay girl herself, Whisper. 1247 01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:14,260 And she's out there with this chair just doing this dance. 1248 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,000 And it's captivating. 1249 01:01:18,020 --> 01:01:20,420 And she's absolutely the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 1250 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,100 We were at a rehearsal. 1251 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,180 And one of the Nitro girls, Spice, had mentioned to me that a man named Shawn 1252 01:01:28,181 --> 01:01:30,960 Michaels, a former wrestler, wanted to meet me. 1253 01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,816 And that was the first time I'd ever heard of him. 1254 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,580 I called her up. 1255 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,200 We probably talked for three hours on the phone each night for two weeks. 1256 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,480 Two weeks of talking and emailing. 1257 01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:42,900 And then I flew out to San Antonio to see him. 1258 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,940 And we dated for about two weeks. 1259 01:01:45,575 --> 01:01:46,796 After that, he told me he loved me. 1260 01:01:46,820 --> 01:01:47,640 I told him I loved him. 1261 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,240 Two weeks after that, we got married. 1262 01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:51,540 It was the Graceland wedding. 1263 01:01:51,541 --> 01:01:51,960 The wedding chapel. 1264 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:52,480 Yeah. 1265 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,640 Yeah. 1266 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,340 You know, and Elvis impersonated her walking down the aisle. 1267 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,640 Regrets. 1268 01:01:57,641 --> 01:01:59,200 It was fantastic. 1269 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,860 It's just the greatest thing ever. 1270 01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:07,540 There was one evening where my pills have kicked in. 1271 01:02:08,085 --> 01:02:09,420 And I'm out of it. 1272 01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,260 Shawn was in tremendous pain. 1273 01:02:12,705 --> 01:02:17,940 When he would take the muscle relaxers, he would usually pass out over his food. 1274 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,880 The very first time that Shawn ever did that was when we were first married. 1275 01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:24,360 So it was a bit of a shock to me. 1276 01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:27,470 So I got him in the shower because he had spilled food all over his chest. 1277 01:02:27,985 --> 01:02:31,620 And I would say it probably happened a couple times a week. 1278 01:02:32,605 --> 01:02:37,460 The worst time, again, was when she was eight months pregnant. 1279 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,220 She's doing everything she can at eight months pregnant with her belly trying to 1280 01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:42,820 hold me up. 1281 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,640 I took pity on him. 1282 01:02:44,740 --> 01:02:47,380 And I just prayed for him is all I could do. 1283 01:02:47,381 --> 01:02:50,316 But it didn't make me think, you know, what in the world have I gotten into? 1284 01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:53,620 If I was fearful, I was fearful for our unborn child. 1285 01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:57,100 And I hoped that it would end whenever the baby was born. 1286 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,240 And it didn't. 1287 01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:06,980 I don't remember why Shawn was there. 1288 01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:09,356 There must have been somebody doing something in the show. 1289 01:03:09,380 --> 01:03:12,720 We all go, me, Taker, Rock. 1290 01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:14,300 Vince is in the ring. 1291 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,620 I own WCW. 1292 01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:18,700 Shawn is messed up. 1293 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,160 Pilled up. 1294 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,180 So this is... a celebratory moment. 1295 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,480 He's belligerent. 1296 01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:26,620 Loud. 1297 01:03:26,740 --> 01:03:27,740 Falling down. 1298 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,520 Staggering. 1299 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,040 Vince calls him in. 1300 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,060 Tells him, go home. 1301 01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:33,300 Done with you. 1302 01:03:33,580 --> 01:03:35,200 Shawn goes ballistic. 1303 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,460 Walks by me in the hallway. 1304 01:03:37,660 --> 01:03:38,920 Just goes off. 1305 01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:40,680 You know, I went and... 1306 01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:43,500 browbeat Hunter. 1307 01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:44,180 Unfairly. 1308 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:44,680 Obviously. 1309 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,000 And I just... 1310 01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:47,180 went off back. 1311 01:03:47,420 --> 01:03:48,840 You know, just in his face. 1312 01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:50,540 Screaming match back and forth. 1313 01:03:50,541 --> 01:03:51,740 And he storms out. 1314 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,480 And that's another one that makes me cry. 1315 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,480 I went and said some mean stuff to him and walked out. 1316 01:03:57,020 --> 01:03:58,020 And, uh... 1317 01:03:58,260 --> 01:03:59,260 you know... 1318 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,040 that sucks as well. 1319 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,460 And I don't talk to him... 1320 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,160 for... 1321 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,280 a long time. 1322 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,560 We didn't... 1323 01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:11,300 speak... 1324 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,140 I don't know. 1325 01:04:12,260 --> 01:04:14,580 I mean, I would think at least a year, two years. 1326 01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:16,900 That was... what do they call it? 1327 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,920 The rock bottom. 1328 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,280 So... 1329 01:04:31,410 --> 01:04:32,380 that's a completely different story. 1330 01:04:32,381 --> 01:04:32,840 But, I mean, I am not afraid. 1331 01:04:32,841 --> 01:04:33,160 a very, very unique story. 1332 01:04:33,161 --> 01:04:33,440 I don't want to say that... 1333 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:33,700 But we were there. 1334 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:33,780 But we had that. 1335 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,600 And... I always think that... 1336 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,700 that we were trying to make him feel... comfortable. 1337 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,520 And he was able... 1338 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:47,820 to... 1339 01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:51,580 be comfortable. 1340 01:04:51,581 --> 01:04:55,380 I went into the bathroom and closed the door, looking at yourself in the mirror, 1341 01:04:55,700 --> 01:05:01,840 and, you know, I sat there and cried like a baby and wept, you know, realizing that 1342 01:05:01,841 --> 01:05:04,900 you are failing a, you know, a two-year-old little boy. 1343 01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:10,920 And all of those things sort of came crashing down that night, and I just, 1344 01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:15,180 it's the first time I ever fail like such a frickin' failure. 1345 01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:17,400 I think that that was the last straw for him. 1346 01:05:17,401 --> 01:05:22,340 And when he woke up the next morning, he told me that he was never taking pills 1347 01:05:22,341 --> 01:05:24,301 or drinking again, and from that point, he didn't. 1348 01:05:24,540 --> 01:05:27,800 It was an instantaneous letting go of the drugs and alcohol. 1349 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,240 I just called him up out of the clear blue. 1350 01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:34,585 I just asked him when was the last time he talked 1351 01:05:34,586 --> 01:05:37,560 to Paul, and he just avoided that situation. 1352 01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:41,480 I just said, man, you're wrong, you gotta call him. 1353 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,380 I called Hunter and let him know, you know, how sorry I was and how I felt. 1354 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,340 You know, how out of line I was. 1355 01:05:48,380 --> 01:05:50,100 But I said, I hope you can forgive me. 1356 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,860 I needed that from Hunter. 1357 01:05:52,380 --> 01:05:53,440 For me, it was easy. 1358 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,520 Like, I didn't... 1359 01:05:55,220 --> 01:05:56,900 As long as he wasn't drugs talking to me. 1360 01:05:57,220 --> 01:05:58,220 That's good. 1361 01:06:00,580 --> 01:06:05,200 Of course I do regret the pain that it caused people in my life. 1362 01:06:05,380 --> 01:06:11,900 There is a part of that that I don't think that Michael Shaw and Hickenbottom can get 1363 01:06:11,901 --> 01:06:17,240 to where he got creatively without a little bit of that reckless... 1364 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,120 risky mindset. 1365 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,460 I wouldn't have had the guts to do it. 1366 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,350 It was our first Christmas together, and I gave Shawn a 1367 01:06:26,351 --> 01:06:28,740 Bible and some other books, and he began reading them. 1368 01:06:29,460 --> 01:06:32,167 I had never had anything that I could grasp 1369 01:06:32,168 --> 01:06:34,580 that was bigger than the wrestling business. 1370 01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:38,440 That's just not enough to base, I don't know, a life on. 1371 01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:42,640 I worked at Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. 1372 01:06:43,070 --> 01:06:47,420 All of a sudden, I heard a deep voice that, I want to come to a Bible study. 1373 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,418 And then I got up from my desk and stuck my head 1374 01:06:51,498 --> 01:06:53,960 out the door and I said, well, you can come to mine. 1375 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,056 When he left, everybody came out to him and said, do you know who that was? 1376 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,336 I said, no, I don't know who that was. 1377 01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:58,880 Who was it? 1378 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,360 And he said, Shawn Michaels. 1379 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,880 I said, well, who's Shawn Michaels? 1380 01:07:04,940 --> 01:07:08,540 He said, well, first, Keith, I want you to pray for my back. 1381 01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:11,340 He said, I've been out of wrestling and I want to go back. 1382 01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:14,480 I said, well, it's a simple prayer that we can pray together. 1383 01:07:14,481 --> 01:07:19,200 And while he was saying that prayer, tears just come out of his eyes. 1384 01:07:20,180 --> 01:07:22,320 I got nobody to blame but me. 1385 01:07:22,915 --> 01:07:25,380 And I don't have anything in common with the other dude. 1386 01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:26,816 And I don't know how it got that way. 1387 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,960 It wasn't from family. 1388 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,840 It wasn't from upbringing. 1389 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:36,500 He was so desperate to get back in a close relationship with Rebecca and his son. 1390 01:07:37,060 --> 01:07:38,400 I was now a dad. 1391 01:07:38,540 --> 01:07:39,220 I was a husband. 1392 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,920 And I was really devoted and thrilled about that. 1393 01:07:43,921 --> 01:07:45,340 You're like a child. 1394 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,800 You just want to tell everybody, I've been saved. 1395 01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:56,450 Once Shawn got his life together and found Christ, it was night and day. 1396 01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:59,890 When he looks back at his life, that's the biggest thing that he ever did. 1397 01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:02,930 You were dealing with a grown up when Shawn came back. 1398 01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:05,330 Someone who was there to do business. 1399 01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:08,310 Shawn was a lot calmer and much easier to deal with. 1400 01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:13,410 Shawn Michaels of old is very different from Shawn Hickenbottom, the man I married. 1401 01:08:13,650 --> 01:08:15,750 The sexy boy and all that kind of stuff. 1402 01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:17,290 And his cocky attitude and that kind of stuff. 1403 01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:18,950 And that cocky little smile that he does. 1404 01:08:19,270 --> 01:08:22,470 That's so far from who he really is. 1405 01:08:22,790 --> 01:08:25,130 I remember somebody asking me, they said, 1406 01:08:25,131 --> 01:08:27,170 you know, hey, I heard Shawn found religion. 1407 01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:28,070 Yeah. 1408 01:08:28,210 --> 01:08:29,090 They laughed. 1409 01:08:29,230 --> 01:08:32,490 And I said, well, I don't know anybody that died OD'ing on religion. 1410 01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:35,230 He had called Triple H. 1411 01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:40,203 He thanked Hunter for the time on the road because before 1412 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,190 his marriage to me, the one that took care of him was Hunter. 1413 01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:47,628 That night after Shawn had gone to bed, he woke up 1414 01:08:47,629 --> 01:08:50,391 in the morning and the pain was gone in his back. 1415 01:08:50,910 --> 01:08:52,030 It was definitely a miracle. 1416 01:08:53,090 --> 01:08:55,450 So he was physically ready to go back in the ring. 1417 01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:57,470 And I knew that the Lord would take care of him. 1418 01:08:59,890 --> 01:09:01,870 We were kind of having a conversation at the time. 1419 01:09:01,930 --> 01:09:05,030 And then he said, he was like, I want my son to see me do this one time. 1420 01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:06,426 He said, I don't know that I can do it. 1421 01:09:06,450 --> 01:09:08,050 I don't know physically if I can or not. 1422 01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:10,910 And he said, if I'm going to, I only trust one person. 1423 01:09:11,290 --> 01:09:11,710 It's you. 1424 01:09:11,711 --> 01:09:15,490 If you consider it, I would love to do it. 1425 01:09:15,550 --> 01:09:16,550 What do you think? 1426 01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:24,218 Almost away from the non-sanctioned fight between two men who 1427 01:09:24,219 --> 01:09:28,090 are at one time best friends, Shawn Michaels and Triple H. 1428 01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:34,450 Shawn Michaels last wrestled 1,609 days ago, if you can believe that. 1429 01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:37,110 His whole family was there. 1430 01:09:37,610 --> 01:09:39,310 They were all scared to death. 1431 01:09:39,790 --> 01:09:41,270 Found a ring, did a couple of things. 1432 01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:46,030 Never missed a beat, not a moment, not an anything. 1433 01:09:46,790 --> 01:09:49,970 I was on my chair like a redneck, just screaming and yelling for him. 1434 01:09:50,010 --> 01:09:51,210 Of course, I cried at the end. 1435 01:09:51,290 --> 01:09:55,610 Like, how is this possible that he is this good still? 1436 01:09:56,210 --> 01:10:00,450 After all that time and injury and everything else, unbelievable. 1437 01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:05,570 It was just as easy as the day is long. 1438 01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:06,310 It was poetic. 1439 01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:07,050 It was phenomenal. 1440 01:10:07,450 --> 01:10:11,130 It was everything that is right and good about the world. 1441 01:10:11,131 --> 01:10:16,051 This line of work and, you know, my family there, out there with my best friend. 1442 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,112 After the SummerSlam, that's when there was a sense of peace 1443 01:10:26,113 --> 01:10:29,040 and joy in the midst of doing your job and your family. 1444 01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:32,820 Combining these two worlds that I've never had together. 1445 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,820 And I'm not even the same person. 1446 01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,620 And now it all feels so right. 1447 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,960 It's as good as it gets. 1448 01:10:39,060 --> 01:10:41,120 You know, it's heaven on earth here in this world. 1449 01:10:41,780 --> 01:10:45,180 Shawn Michaels changed completely as a human being. 1450 01:10:45,181 --> 01:10:52,460 And somehow, as a character, he managed to keep a lot of the aura that he always had. 1451 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,920 I could argue that Shawn was at his best after he came back. 1452 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:07,440 To me, he's the greatest in-ring performer of all time. 1453 01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:15,660 It gets more difficult to find a new mountain, a new challenge. 1454 01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:19,080 Sometimes that new mountain or that new challenge, it just isn't there. 1455 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,402 And so later on in my career, I learned that when I 1456 01:11:21,442 --> 01:11:23,820 disconnect from it, something will usually happen. 1457 01:11:23,940 --> 01:11:28,420 You know, the one with flair is obviously the one I always speak of. 1458 01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:30,300 Remember the story of Old Yeller? 1459 01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:35,700 The Showstopper's gonna take you, Old Yeller, behind the woodshed. 1460 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,860 And put you out of your misery. 1461 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,480 I lost myself in that drama. 1462 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,380 We had a call from my buddy Kenny, who's now been made aware of the match. 1463 01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:47,300 It's like, oh my goodness. 1464 01:11:47,380 --> 01:11:48,500 He said, can you believe it? 1465 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,700 It was overwhelming to think that the guy that we idolized, that we would watch on a 1466 01:11:53,701 --> 01:11:55,602 little TV box in San Antonio, Texas, 1467 01:11:55,614 --> 01:11:57,940 somehow their lives were gonna interconnect. 1468 01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,140 Rick was his guy. 1469 01:11:59,260 --> 01:12:01,560 He absolutely loved Ric Flair. 1470 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,820 Kenny took me back to that time. 1471 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,900 This was why I went from New York to Orlando, was to see this moment. 1472 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:19,980 Now in this match, should Ric Flair lose, he must retire. 1473 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,720 I remember feeling like the way Ric Flair started this match, that he had a chance. 1474 01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:30,060 There's no other way to put it. 1475 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:31,240 He carried me. 1476 01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:36,600 He gave everything that anybody could ever give to a match that night. 1477 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,040 Wait a minute, wait a minute! 1478 01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:47,760 It becomes clear that Ric Flair just doesn't have enough. 1479 01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:49,880 I love this part. 1480 01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:51,300 I could tear up talking about it. 1481 01:12:51,380 --> 01:12:53,740 Lair, like an old dog, still fighting. 1482 01:12:53,741 --> 01:12:55,640 He thinks he still has it. 1483 01:12:56,070 --> 01:13:00,560 And that's when Shawn sort of has to have that moment where he says, I'm sorry. 1484 01:13:00,940 --> 01:13:01,780 I love you. 1485 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,040 Flair wants to fight. 1486 01:13:03,140 --> 01:13:04,140 Oh! 1487 01:13:04,340 --> 01:13:05,800 And just turns the lights out. 1488 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:13,281 It was as beautiful and perfect an ending to a wrestling match as you will ever have. 1489 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,780 You know, I didn't want to go. 1490 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,000 And you said, I love you. 1491 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,400 It's a great moment in wrestling. 1492 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,840 I don't care what anybody says. 1493 01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:22,640 You can't replace something like that. 1494 01:13:24,020 --> 01:13:29,380 I'm ashamed that it was my love letter to the wrestling business and to Ric Flair. 1495 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,520 It is show day and we're off to the shizzle. 1496 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,080 I've been doing this for 35 years. 1497 01:13:41,380 --> 01:13:44,720 Days like today, it's a different kind of anxiety that I have now. 1498 01:13:45,020 --> 01:13:48,440 I have anxiety for the performers, for the entire show as a whole. 1499 01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:50,260 For me, it's just all fantastic. 1500 01:13:51,140 --> 01:13:54,500 Especially when it goes well for them and they come back and they're jacked. 1501 01:13:54,501 --> 01:13:57,620 It's ten times better than when I had that opportunity. 1502 01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,560 This is where I'm supposed to be. 1503 01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:01,000 I absolutely love it. 1504 01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:08,460 What moment would you say you're most proud of? 1505 01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:11,756 And then by the same token, what moment would you say you're least proud of? 1506 01:14:11,780 --> 01:14:14,160 Most proud, I guess, would be winning the world title. 1507 01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:17,800 And least proud would probably be the Montreal incident. 1508 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,940 One is everything you aspire to do and the other is the complete opposite. 1509 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,080 Something you really don't want to be a part of. 1510 01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:27,360 It's the long-term guilt. 1511 01:14:27,460 --> 01:14:28,340 It's the shame. 1512 01:14:28,460 --> 01:14:31,320 It's the loathing that you know this person has for you. 1513 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,420 There was so much bad blood between us. 1514 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,960 And I was always like, if I see him, I'll kill him. 1515 01:14:38,260 --> 01:14:40,836 I've always believed that I had so much anger that I think 1516 01:14:40,837 --> 01:14:43,281 it led to my stroke and a lot of things that I went through. 1517 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,287 And then I remember thinking about Sean and 1518 01:14:45,288 --> 01:14:47,020 how we were good friends once upon a time. 1519 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,960 And, you know, that it wasn't just Sean. 1520 01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:50,240 I was guilty too. 1521 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,840 And I remember thinking it would be good to put it to bed. 1522 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,040 And I've certainly talked about my regrets. 1523 01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:57,180 And the hope for reconciliation. 1524 01:14:57,580 --> 01:14:59,640 It took him some time to get there. 1525 01:14:59,860 --> 01:15:03,840 Vincent suggested, there's got to be a way we can do this live in front of the world. 1526 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,460 I've got 12 years of things that I want to get off my chest. 1527 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,520 I want to call back there and ask Shawn Michaels to come out here. 1528 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,020 I call for a truce. 1529 01:15:13,180 --> 01:15:15,020 And I call for you to shake my hand. 1530 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,462 The fact that we did that in the ring and we shook 1531 01:15:17,463 --> 01:15:20,320 hands and all that was very honest and very sincere. 1532 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,220 You know that everybody's watching when you're trying to have this very real 1533 01:15:24,221 --> 01:15:26,640 moment until one another's part does imitate life. 1534 01:15:27,125 --> 01:15:28,940 He's matured and he's a different guy. 1535 01:15:30,460 --> 01:15:33,400 And I thought he finally, you know, he's got his priorities all in order. 1536 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:41,460 Welcome to the 25th anniversary of WrestleMania! 1537 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,560 70,000 WWE fans! 1538 01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:53,060 By the time Shawn Michaels and Undertaker meet at WrestleMania 25, they're veterans. 1539 01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,220 They've been around forever. 1540 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,160 And somehow, they're actually both in their absolute prime. 1541 01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:07,781 One of my favorite entrances, Shawn as the Undertaker 1542 01:16:07,782 --> 01:16:10,671 but in all white, ascending from the clouds. 1543 01:16:11,450 --> 01:16:15,750 Such a stark contrast to what I'm about to do. 1544 01:16:17,450 --> 01:16:19,630 It's the battle between heaven and hell. 1545 01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:23,630 Prior to 2002, we did not have a great relationship. 1546 01:16:24,010 --> 01:16:26,470 We did not like each other outside the ring. 1547 01:16:26,471 --> 01:16:28,310 This guy, I genuinely like now. 1548 01:16:29,010 --> 01:16:32,630 And I've been years and years and years since we had worked together. 1549 01:16:33,770 --> 01:16:36,950 Since the time that he had injured himself in the casket match. 1550 01:16:37,370 --> 01:16:39,815 Unknown to us at the time, we're about to create one of 1551 01:16:39,816 --> 01:16:43,050 the most epic things ever done in the wrestling business. 1552 01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:44,850 There's that fresh arrogance! 1553 01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:47,670 70,000, Shannon HBK... 1554 01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:03,530 You know when you're in the middle of something really special, and we did. 1555 01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:19,180 I just remember getting to Shawn. 1556 01:17:19,181 --> 01:17:22,600 And we just embraced and hugged and thanked each other. 1557 01:17:22,780 --> 01:17:24,240 It was an awesome moment. 1558 01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:26,740 I was on the ride home the next day. 1559 01:17:26,860 --> 01:17:30,300 It's just settling into me that I just don't know that I'm ever going to... 1560 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,280 encounter from a performance standpoint... 1561 01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:37,900 anything greater than that thing that I experienced last night. 1562 01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:42,980 There was only one match that can be considered match of the year. 1563 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,600 Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker. 1564 01:17:49,530 --> 01:17:50,050 Undertaker! 1565 01:17:50,051 --> 01:17:51,990 I can beat you. 1566 01:17:52,970 --> 01:17:54,010 You and me. 1567 01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:59,010 WrestleMania one more time. 1568 01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,200 So I remember tuning in to WrestleMania 26. 1569 01:18:06,580 --> 01:18:10,060 But I had a knot in my stomach knowing that if Shawn 1570 01:18:10,061 --> 01:18:12,821 Michaels wasn't able to win this one that he would retire. 1571 01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:16,880 But it was a beautiful artistic way to end the career of Shawn Michaels. 1572 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,520 Shawn 1573 01:18:28,130 --> 01:18:29,150 Michaels career! 1574 01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:31,790 It's over. 1575 01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:33,370 My heart was broken. 1576 01:18:33,490 --> 01:18:34,350 My heart was broken. 1577 01:18:34,450 --> 01:18:36,606 But I'm glad also that he got to leave on his own terms. 1578 01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:38,630 It was important that I needed to get out of there. 1579 01:18:38,990 --> 01:18:42,130 To let the fans show him the appreciation that he deserves. 1580 01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:49,418 You have to imagine that Tom Brady and Michael 1581 01:18:49,419 --> 01:18:52,250 Jordan as much as they appreciate the fans. 1582 01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:56,270 I think more than anything it's about their teammates and the people that they play. 1583 01:18:56,490 --> 01:18:57,710 That means the most to them. 1584 01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:06,450 A lot of times there's still a chasing of that last perfect one. 1585 01:19:06,710 --> 01:19:10,610 And that's why I'm so appreciative that I can define some form of finish line. 1586 01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:14,190 There's two things that I thrive on. 1587 01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:15,706 There's two things that I'm in love with. 1588 01:19:15,730 --> 01:19:18,590 Which is, you know, Rebecca and the kids and the wrestling business. 1589 01:19:21,610 --> 01:19:24,230 They're the two greatest loves of my life that's never changed. 1590 01:19:29,930 --> 01:19:31,545 You've probably been to more ladder matches 1591 01:19:31,546 --> 01:19:34,151 than half the people in the ring I would match. 1592 01:19:38,690 --> 01:19:39,148 You've probably been to more ladder matches 1593 01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:40,010 than half the people in the ring I would match. 1594 01:19:40,011 --> 01:19:41,830 It's awesome for me to have Shawn there. 1595 01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:43,790 He'll tell you what he's thinking. 1596 01:19:44,150 --> 01:19:45,470 He'll tell you what I'm thinking. 1597 01:19:46,050 --> 01:19:47,530 And there's a chemistry there. 1598 01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:49,250 We have this uncanny thing with each other. 1599 01:19:52,150 --> 01:19:53,590 Shawn's a legend. 1600 01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:58,530 And for a legend to walk into an environment full of performers. 1601 01:19:58,870 --> 01:20:01,670 They revere him so much. 1602 01:20:03,730 --> 01:20:04,730 NXT TakeOver! 1603 01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:07,690 There is the North American Championship. 1604 01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:09,390 Who will climb the ladder? 1605 01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:12,430 Shawn has been a role model both in and out of the ring. 1606 01:20:14,030 --> 01:20:15,710 I have so much respect for that man. 1607 01:20:15,850 --> 01:20:18,450 For not just what he's done for professional wrestling. 1608 01:20:18,570 --> 01:20:19,690 The type of person he is. 1609 01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:24,250 To me and so many others, he's the greatest. 1610 01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:30,970 And it's insane how kind, generous and humble the guy is. 1611 01:20:31,150 --> 01:20:32,150 Good stuff. 1612 01:20:32,630 --> 01:20:36,210 Sometimes I think he doesn't realize that he's Shawn Michaels. 1613 01:20:46,130 --> 01:20:50,110 When you said, a tale of two lives, that's what it's been. 1614 01:20:53,070 --> 01:20:57,080 Believe it or not, the same business that might have almost 1615 01:20:57,081 --> 01:20:59,750 killed me, I think it's the same business that saved me. 1616 01:20:59,830 --> 01:21:01,150 You did a great job. 1617 01:21:01,850 --> 01:21:03,430 These guys are easy to work with. 1618 01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:05,290 That was freaking awesome. 1619 01:21:05,291 --> 01:21:07,510 I know I accomplished more than what I wanted. 1620 01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:11,351 I've never lost touch with a 19-year-old dude 1621 01:21:11,352 --> 01:21:13,670 that was hoping to have a car and an apartment. 1622 01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:15,890 And be the Southwest Heavyweight Champion. 1623 01:21:16,630 --> 01:21:18,250 A lot more has happened since then. 133805

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