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Growing up with close to
nothing in South Park, Texas,
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kicking it around New
York City is kind of surreal.
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The sounds, the energy, there's nothing
like it.
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It's like another world, man.
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It's also a place that I dreamed of as a
kid.
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Because of Shaft.
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I watched that movie
at least a hundred times
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and I literally wanted
to be John Shaft.
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You didn't see black guys like this in
movies back then.
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He was a bad man and didn't back down from
nobody.
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See Shaft, he resonated with me and
inspired the following.
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Five words that define the two-time WWE
Hall of Famer.
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Can you dig it?
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Sucker!
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Act one of being a pro wrestler is when
you come through that curtain.
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He went in and he took it to the moon.
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See how he just soaks up the adulation and
the energy.
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It just makes him bigger and bigger and
bigger.
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Our two-time WWE Hall of Famer,
Booker T.
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Booker's persona is a
street smart, hungry, athletic,
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over-the-top, kick-your-ass
professional wrestler.
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Make a look at this pulk.
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Even growing up, Junior was never afraid
to fight.
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He would fight big kids, dogs,
cats.
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I mean he just loved to fight and he could
fight very well.
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You try to get somebody.
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Like, did you see that?
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One of the things I loved about Booker T
was his flair for the theatrical side.
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And the drama of it.
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This is show business.
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The key in this business is charisma.
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Booker T walks into a room, you notice
him.
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Fun, larger than life personality and big
and loves to laugh.
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Go to every length just to entertain you.
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Tell me I don't look like that!
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And let me tell you, Booker is the same
way when he's at home.
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I'm like, really?
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Are you really doing this right now?
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Pioneer, trendsetter, two-time Hall of
Famer, five-time champion.
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He's always managed to stay on top.
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It's very, very important to see people
who look like you doing great things.
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If he's doing it, so can I.
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Can you dig that sucker?
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This is where it all started so many years
ago.
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You don't miss what you don't have.
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And we didn't have a lot, but what we had,
it was enough.
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It was a lot of shooting dice.
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We shoot marbles.
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Then we're trying to get some mischief,
looking for some girls.
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Don't let nobody push you around,
you know, amen?
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If you get into a fight, you know,
make sure you throw the first punch.
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You know, and that's
what not my brothers was
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teaching me, but my
sisters was teaching me that.
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That's what life was here in this
neighborhood.
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We moved here back when I was actually
about seven years old.
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We moved around Houston till we finally
settled right here in this neighborhood.
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And I tell you, just standing here right
now, the memories just, just flood back.
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I was born in a little
place called Plain Dealing,
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about 50 miles outside
of Shreveport, Louisiana.
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I was the youngest of eight kids.
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I never knew my father.
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He passed away when I was 10 months old.
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My mother was a registered
nurse, and she packed up and she
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moved us here because she
just wanted more for her kids.
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As long as I can remember, my mother
worked from 11 at night.
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To 7 a.m.
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in the morning.
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It was very important for her
to be there when we woke up,
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and to be there when we came
home from school every day.
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And to make sure that we
were fed, that we did our
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homework, and that we
were in the bed before she left.
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So, that graveyard shift can be very,
very tough.
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But my mom did it, and she did it for us.
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We had four girls,
four boys, and some of
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the older ones were
already out of the house.
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When we moved to Houston.
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But she was still a single parent with a
full household.
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My older brother, Lash, others know him as
Stevie Ray, his wrestling name.
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Booker T, myself.
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The three of us were all
three years apart, so we were
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the closest, and all three
of us were the youngest.
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Sports was always in the equation.
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And my brother would always play football
with me and my friends.
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For some reason or another, he wanted to
play with us.
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Whatever Lash wanted to do.
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Junior wanted to do.
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Whenever we would get
new mattresses, Junior
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and Lash would ask
for the old mattress.
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And they'd set it up in the backyard and
make a makeshift ring.
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And me and my niece, we were guinea pigs
for the sleeper hold.
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He did look up to his big brother.
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My mom, not that she didn't love all of
us, but she loved Junior.
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Because he was the baby.
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He could cry for three hours without
stopping.
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Sometimes he'd cry so much, you'd have to
pay him to stop.
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And he'd get your money.
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And then when she'd come home, he was
crying again so he could plead his case.
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My momma would be, oh my baby,
my baby.
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And he'd be hugging her and looking over
there, wanking at us.
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I was a momma's boy.
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I always said one day that I was going to
buy my mother a big house.
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And she wasn't going to have to ever work
again.
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Just lay on my mother.
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You know, just listen to her.
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Just listen to her heartbeat.
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The relationship was very, very special.
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We had an attic fan.
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And for some reason, the attic fan had
stopped working.
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All my brothers are older.
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And she had been trying
to get one of those guys to
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go up there and take a
look at it for the longest.
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And finally one day she said, I'll go do
it myself.
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She went up to the attic to check it out.
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You know, she stepped on the sheetrock.
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And she fell through the roof to the
floor.
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From that point on, she always had back
problems.
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And she had to have surgery.
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She had the surgery.
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She came through.
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Everything was fine.
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Her leg began to stiffen.
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And she was in pain again.
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And when she went back to the doctor,
they said that they needed to go in again.
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It was basically, I'm going to go to the
hospital.
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I'll be there a couple of days.
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Here's lunch money.
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And you kiss your mom goodnight.
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Goodbye.
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Something happened.
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Complications.
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And my heart stopped beating.
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And, man, 49 years old.
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My mother was gone.
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Yeah.
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We had lost our leader, our rock,
our provider, our strength.
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We had lost that.
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Everything changed for me, of course,
being a 13-year-old kid with no parents.
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I don't blame any of my sisters and
brothers.
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For not stepping up and being, you
know, a father figure, a mother figure.
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I don't think anybody was prepared or
equipped for the loss of my mother.
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No one was.
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We were like little aunts without the
queen.
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Everybody was just, like, everywhere.
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And it kind of splintered our family
somewhat.
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And I know it did me.
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And the younger kids, Booker and Benita,
that's all they knew was their mom.
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From a legal standpoint, we were orphans.
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Because we didn't have a mother or father,
and we were both minors.
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For a short period of time, we did
struggle.
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Because we were basically the two that
were left in the home after my mom died.
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So here's this kid at age 13 living with
his sister in a house that is abandoned.
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You know, the electricity's being turned
off.
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Now it's becoming a derelict house.
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They don't have any food.
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They have nowhere to go.
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They kept the lights on as long as they
possibly could.
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They kept the water on as long as they
possibly could.
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And then, no lights, no water,
no gas, no anything.
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There was a lot of scary nights in the
house, you know, with candles.
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We toughed it out as long as we possibly
could.
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The house got foreclosed on.
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You know, the bank took it.
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My sister actually, you know, took us in.
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And we were in better places for us.
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We had lights and we had gas.
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We had water.
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We had food.
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But we were still in an environment that
two kids shouldn't have been in.
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Right now, we're deep in the heart of
South Park, Texas.
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Where I pretty much grew up and,
I always say, created all my dirt.
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The lifestyle that I had, you know,
was a little bit different than most kids.
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Because, you know, most kids were,
you know, thinking about getting home.
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And going outside and playing with their
buddies.
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And it was like that for me to a point.
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And then after I lost my mother,
things totally went in another direction.
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As far as, now I had to police myself.
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Now I had, you know, peer pressure.
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In the neighborhood,
the kid on the corner is
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asking you, hey man, you
want to smoke some of this?
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You know, and you go, yeah man,
I'll smoke some of that.
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And, you know, that's where it all starts.
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One of the first things I saw,
actually we were at the car wash.
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A friend of mine by the name of Ted.
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He was a kid that I went to school with.
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So I'm getting to it with another guy at
the car wash.
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And it was just going to be a regular
fight.
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And next thing you know, Ted pulls out a
gun.
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Boom, shoots the kid.
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And then the kid's friend pulls out a
shotgun.
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Boom, it kills Ted.
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So as a kid, you know,
seeing stuff like that,
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you just wonder, man,
what is life all about?
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You know, what are we here for?
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And how long are we here for?
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Life in the neighborhood.
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I could pretty much do whatever I wanted
to do.
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I didn't have to think about going to
school if I didn't want to go to school.
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I would just stay home or just go
somewhere else.
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Who was going to tell me it was wrong?
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No one.
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Who knew I was at school or not?
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No one.
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Who cared?
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No one.
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When you find yourself in
that position, you start doing
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things a young kid definitely
shouldn't have been doing.
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Going out and partying, drugs,
hanging out till 4 o'clock in the morning,
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out on the waterfront, watching the ladies
of the night.
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Things changed in the
neighborhood, South Park, but nothing,
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nothing like when I started
coming in this area right here.
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It's called the waterfront area.
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You know, the docks is not too far from
here.
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Everybody would freak
with this area, you know,
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especially on Friday
nights after they got paid.
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Prostitutes, gambling, you see gambling on
the corner.
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The drug scene.
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The needles.
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That's what I remember more than anything
is the needles.
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Listening to some Willie Hutch.
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Some of his music went hand in hand with
the game.
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They sit out here and
they'll gamble and they'll
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order and they'll try to
make their drug sales.
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35 is not a 21.
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I can't tell you how sad it is now.
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I knew I didn't want to do drugs.
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I knew I didn't want to be a pimp.
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I knew I didn't want to have that
lifestyle.
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I knew I didn't want to do that,
but I was right in the middle of it.
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Booker just kind of fell through the
cracks.
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Here's a kid that was literally on his
own.
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And then he ends up
getting a job sweeping the
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floors in a heroin den and
that doubled as a brothel.
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He's trying to survive.
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He's trying to live.
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I had no ambitions.
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I was in that whirlwind
and it was spinning and
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war had stopped and that's
where I was going to go.
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When you have that mindset and you're
stuck in that position, you do things that
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are... you look back and say,
well, that was a terrible decision.
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You just start making your own rules.
241
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Whether those rules are right or wrong,
you just start making them.
242
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And that's what I did.
243
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I remember hanging out with my buddies and
they became my family.
244
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And we started writing our own blueprints.
245
00:14:36,785 --> 00:14:42,260
So when he sees an option to deal a little
pot or rob a fast food restaurant,
246
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of course he's going to do it.
247
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The robbery.
248
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The incident.
249
00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:47,660
The way it started.
250
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It was myself, a friend of mine, Zachary,
a friend that I grew up with, Wendell.
251
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We worked at Wendy's.
252
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It was this one manager.
253
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Just used to give us a hard time all the
time.
254
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We were talking about it one day,
man, we should rob them.
255
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We go.
256
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We did it.
257
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And we got away with it.
258
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The store that we actually worked in.
259
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And then we did it again.
260
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And we got away with it.
261
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Somebody said, hey man, when we going out
again?
262
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Let's do it.
263
00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:16,880
We got away with it again.
264
00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:18,980
It was like we were ever going to get
caught.
265
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We saw it on the news.
266
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,500
And we were like, man, this thing is
getting crazy.
267
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You know, we're getting really big.
268
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We were like rock stars then.
269
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It's like cat and mouse.
270
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Catch me if you can.
271
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It's hard to understand, how do you think
you know more than the cops?
272
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That's their job.
273
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They'll come to the office.
274
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Only thing they do is sit
around and investigate and
275
00:15:42,548 --> 00:15:45,640
try to figure out how to
catch someone doing wrong.
276
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I was coming home to my apartment.
277
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Came around the corner.
278
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And I saw no one.
279
00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,120
It was so quiet that night.
280
00:15:56,660 --> 00:16:00,760
And I just remember, man, just something
does not feel right at all.
281
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,440
And literally, 10, 15, 20 people came out
at the same time.
282
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,120
And they all had guns.
283
00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,520
And they were all pointing at me.
284
00:16:17,950 --> 00:16:21,990
That ride from 45 and 610
to downtown Houston to the
285
00:16:21,991 --> 00:16:25,710
county jail, that was the
longest ride I ever had.
286
00:16:32,690 --> 00:16:35,630
I was in Harris County for about eight
months.
287
00:16:36,050 --> 00:16:38,423
I sat in that jail, waiting
on whether I was either
288
00:16:38,424 --> 00:16:40,791
going to go to trial or I
was going to take a plea.
289
00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:41,850
And I was going to take a plea.
290
00:16:41,851 --> 00:16:42,950
I knew I was wrong.
291
00:16:43,750 --> 00:16:44,750
I knew I was guilty.
292
00:16:45,370 --> 00:16:47,450
I knew I would have been convicted very,
very easily.
293
00:16:47,570 --> 00:16:50,250
I took the sentence, which was five years.
294
00:16:53,050 --> 00:16:55,130
I had to go to a place called Pac-2.
295
00:16:56,070 --> 00:16:57,670
It was in Navasota, Texas.
296
00:16:58,970 --> 00:17:01,530
I remember seeing the chain gang on
television.
297
00:17:02,095 --> 00:17:03,690
I didn't think that was a real thing.
298
00:17:03,730 --> 00:17:06,410
I thought it was just something that was
out of date or in the past.
299
00:17:07,530 --> 00:17:11,150
But we really had to wake up early in the
morning.
300
00:17:11,151 --> 00:17:13,298
We'd get on the back
of this big truck and
301
00:17:13,299 --> 00:17:16,691
we would go to
literally just clear a field.
302
00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:27,070
And we would do it pretty much by hand,
pulling up stumps.
303
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:28,350
And it was for hours.
304
00:17:29,230 --> 00:17:31,010
And I'm like, man, this is real.
305
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:32,710
This is as real as it gets right here.
306
00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:35,290
It was an education for me as well.
307
00:17:35,930 --> 00:17:37,930
I got a chance to get my GED.
308
00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:40,390
I wanted to go to school.
309
00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:41,530
I wanted to learn more.
310
00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:43,030
I wanted to be able to teach myself.
311
00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:46,350
I got a chance to work on the laundry.
312
00:17:46,351 --> 00:17:48,910
And do a detail from that perspective.
313
00:17:49,030 --> 00:17:50,030
Learning about myself.
314
00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:53,410
Atone for my mistake and try to move on in
life.
315
00:17:53,670 --> 00:17:58,510
I never went to visit him because I never
wanted to see him locked up.
316
00:18:00,850 --> 00:18:03,210
We kept in touch via letter.
317
00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:11,130
In those letters, he talked about his
regrets, his dreams, and his goals.
318
00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:17,090
I've made the mistake.
319
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,010
I own up to it.
320
00:18:19,250 --> 00:18:20,650
I'm going to do my time.
321
00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:23,110
And I'm going to come out and do better.
322
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:27,410
I remember talking to him about,
stick to the goals.
323
00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:29,270
And not just the dreams.
324
00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:31,090
Because dreams you have to wake up from.
325
00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:33,870
He needed to stand on his own two feet and
be a man.
326
00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:38,130
So he was in the penitentiary for 19
months.
327
00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:40,790
And then he came up for parole.
328
00:18:41,770 --> 00:18:42,770
Booker T.
329
00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:45,690
Yeah, he goes, you're out of here.
330
00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:48,850
I was like, oh man.
331
00:18:48,851 --> 00:18:49,950
You're kidding me, right?
332
00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:51,650
He was like, you're out of here.
333
00:18:51,670 --> 00:18:52,670
Get your stuff.
334
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:55,890
And when I left that prison wall,
it was just one guard.
335
00:18:56,690 --> 00:18:58,330
And he was sitting on his big horse.
336
00:18:58,610 --> 00:19:00,310
He had his big cowboy hat on.
337
00:19:01,330 --> 00:19:03,150
And he said, I'll see you when you get
back.
338
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:07,590
And I got my 200 bucks.
339
00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:11,730
They put me on that Greyhound and sent me
back to Houston.
340
00:19:13,410 --> 00:19:15,630
Life was what I was going to make it from
that point on.
341
00:19:18,850 --> 00:19:21,686
One thing that you, when you got out,
you wanted to get your son Brandon back.
342
00:19:21,710 --> 00:19:23,230
You didn't have the money in the bank.
343
00:19:23,950 --> 00:19:26,290
So you pulled one last heist.
344
00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:33,350
I was a kid when Brandon was born,
myself.
345
00:19:33,690 --> 00:19:34,310
I was 17.
346
00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:39,230
His mom and I, we never was anticipating
on getting married or anything like that.
347
00:19:39,290 --> 00:19:40,470
It was two kids.
348
00:19:41,070 --> 00:19:42,590
Having a kid, you know.
349
00:19:42,830 --> 00:19:44,790
Not knowing anything about life.
350
00:19:45,130 --> 00:19:48,990
When I ended up going to prison,
she was on drugs really, really bad.
351
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:51,990
That's when the CPS came into play.
352
00:19:52,450 --> 00:19:53,630
And took him.
353
00:19:53,730 --> 00:19:56,230
And from that point on, he was in foster
care.
354
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:59,050
I wouldn't say I abandoned him or anything
like that.
355
00:19:59,250 --> 00:20:02,870
But I definitely wasn't a dad or a father
in the beginning.
356
00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:06,790
Was I going to leave my son in foster
care?
357
00:20:07,030 --> 00:20:10,370
Or was I going to go through the system
and get him out?
358
00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:11,810
And it was a very simple answer.
359
00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:13,530
My mother raised eight kids.
360
00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:16,010
How could I look at myself in the mirror
and not raise one?
361
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:21,050
When I came home, I was... I
got paroled to my sister's house.
362
00:20:21,450 --> 00:20:26,310
And, you know, she was still in the game
selling weed.
363
00:20:26,450 --> 00:20:28,987
My sister's dealer, you
know, he was supplying,
364
00:20:29,087 --> 00:20:31,310
you know, five pounds
here, five pounds there.
365
00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:35,050
And, you know, one night, I knew where the
stash house was.
366
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:37,310
It was about five pounds.
367
00:20:37,390 --> 00:20:38,390
I crept in.
368
00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:41,570
I got all of it.
369
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:43,530
I got out of there.
370
00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:45,490
You stole from a drug dealer?
371
00:20:45,610 --> 00:20:46,790
Stole from the drug dealers.
372
00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:49,306
And, uh... But for
the right reasons.
373
00:20:49,330 --> 00:20:50,426
You wanted to get your son back.
374
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:51,330
It was for the right reasons.
375
00:20:51,370 --> 00:20:52,030
You got to have money in the bank.
376
00:20:52,190 --> 00:20:53,190
I needed money.
377
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:54,930
And I needed it quick.
378
00:20:55,150 --> 00:20:59,250
And I just needed a platform, a
springboard to get out of that life.
379
00:20:59,450 --> 00:21:01,190
But I still needed a little bit more help.
380
00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:02,650
And that's when my brother came in.
381
00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:04,950
I asked my brother, you know, for a little
bit of help.
382
00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:06,350
I asked him to help me get a job.
383
00:21:06,530 --> 00:21:12,150
You got to get out of this environment if
you want to be something in life.
384
00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:15,050
And that's pretty much the conversation
that we had.
385
00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:16,590
I've been put in a position.
386
00:21:16,591 --> 00:21:18,126
I've been put in a position to help him.
387
00:21:18,150 --> 00:21:19,150
And that's what I did.
388
00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:20,750
But it's up to you to make it work.
389
00:21:21,010 --> 00:21:23,710
First job he got me was a security guard.
390
00:21:26,370 --> 00:21:29,010
Fresh out of prison, he gave me a job as a
security guard.
391
00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:31,690
And at the time, my brother actually let
me stay with him.
392
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:35,490
I had to prove to the court system that I
was worthy of being a dad.
393
00:21:35,790 --> 00:21:37,130
And it took me about a year.
394
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:39,250
Those certain days, I had to make sure I
was there.
395
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:40,430
Keep a steady job.
396
00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:41,590
And I showed them that.
397
00:21:42,205 --> 00:21:45,190
They ended up granting me full custody
when Brandon was five years old.
398
00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:47,030
You know, we didn't have a lot.
399
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:48,130
But we had each other.
400
00:21:48,290 --> 00:21:49,290
You know, we had our dog.
401
00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:50,446
You know, we had our apartment.
402
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:52,350
And I had a job.
403
00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:53,550
Working that security job.
404
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:55,510
You know, it only lasted for a few months.
405
00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:57,570
And then they found out about my prison
record.
406
00:21:57,810 --> 00:21:59,886
They told my brother that he was going to
have to let me go.
407
00:21:59,910 --> 00:22:05,090
But the guy that I had worked for, his name
is Bruce Kisarch, saw me as a human being.
408
00:22:05,310 --> 00:22:06,430
He saw my character.
409
00:22:07,230 --> 00:22:09,050
I saw how hard he worked and tried.
410
00:22:09,370 --> 00:22:10,690
We found another job for him.
411
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,090
One of the properties we bought was a mini
storage.
412
00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:15,170
And he ended up helping me with that.
413
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:16,350
Helping me run that property.
414
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:17,830
Leasing new tenants.
415
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:19,070
Cleaning up the property.
416
00:22:19,710 --> 00:22:21,850
Making sure that people have paid their
rent.
417
00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:23,610
I was working for Bruce.
418
00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:27,090
My brother was like, hey man, I know this
guy opened a wrestling school.
419
00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:28,010
You want to try it out?
420
00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:29,170
I'm Ivan Putzke.
421
00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:31,306
If you've got what it
takes to be a professional
422
00:22:31,318 --> 00:22:32,910
wrestler, let me
show you the ropes.
423
00:22:33,170 --> 00:22:34,270
You do what you like.
424
00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:35,710
And I love wrestling.
425
00:22:36,430 --> 00:22:38,770
Ivan Putzke's professional school of
wrestling.
426
00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:41,650
I drew... Hey, I
watched him on TV.
427
00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:43,690
People read that and they came in.
428
00:22:43,691 --> 00:22:46,290
And I'm like, hey man, you doing it.
429
00:22:46,330 --> 00:22:47,530
I'll try it out too, you know.
430
00:22:48,530 --> 00:22:52,810
Since I was a kid, whatever my brother was
doing, I wanted to be a part of it.
431
00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:56,190
It was like a tag team even before we were
a tag team.
432
00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:59,310
Wrestling school was $4,000.
433
00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:03,230
I knew I didn't have the money for it,
but I was blessed.
434
00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:06,910
My boss, he sponsored me to go to the
wrestling school.
435
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:09,060
He wanted to do something to improve
himself.
436
00:23:09,310 --> 00:23:10,170
You want to improve yourself?
437
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:11,130
And I can help.
438
00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:11,790
I will.
439
00:23:12,050 --> 00:23:13,270
I had the money available.
440
00:23:13,271 --> 00:23:14,271
So I'll help.
441
00:23:14,690 --> 00:23:17,670
And if you're willing to take a little
chance, sometimes it pays off.
442
00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:22,893
When Booker T and
his brother first arrived,
443
00:23:22,894 --> 00:23:26,331
they didn't know a
thing about wrestling.
444
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,530
I mean, they were just green.
445
00:23:29,290 --> 00:23:32,840
I just showed them
how to get the holes on
446
00:23:32,841 --> 00:23:36,210
you, the bumps and the
slams, throw punches.
447
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:39,430
I taught them how to take their falls,
how you protect yourself.
448
00:23:39,770 --> 00:23:42,170
Then we blend in their personality.
449
00:23:42,171 --> 00:23:44,850
Scott Casey was the main trainer there.
450
00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:48,150
I didn't open the school, but Scott Casey
opened our minds.
451
00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:51,348
We went 7 o'clock
to 10 o'clock Monday
452
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,711
through Friday for like
three months straight.
453
00:23:55,170 --> 00:23:58,410
This is when I clap it on somebody's head
and make it pop.
454
00:23:59,090 --> 00:24:00,230
Goes the weasel.
455
00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,590
And after that, they give you a
certificate.
456
00:24:03,591 --> 00:24:06,310
It's kind of like these online gimmicks
that you have today.
457
00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:06,810
You know what I'm saying?
458
00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:09,250
In 90 days, I'm a professional wrestler.
459
00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:09,810
You know what I'm saying?
460
00:24:10,090 --> 00:24:11,390
So it's like, wow.
461
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,530
Booker was what you call a natural.
462
00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:16,390
He caught on so fast.
463
00:24:22,590 --> 00:24:26,250
I always wanted to be the best student,
you know, in the school.
464
00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:27,630
So I would go and push myself.
465
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:34,950
I would run the rope for five minutes and
I would literally push myself further than
466
00:24:34,951 --> 00:24:37,290
anyone in there could ever think about
pushing me.
467
00:24:39,070 --> 00:24:41,370
Man, I got a jewel here.
468
00:24:41,755 --> 00:24:44,570
Notice how I concentrate mainly on the
sweep.
469
00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:44,830
Right.
470
00:24:45,090 --> 00:24:46,990
We're pumping up these massive quads.
471
00:24:47,230 --> 00:24:50,990
And the GI Bro can only do oh so well.
472
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:57,250
I was working at the warehouse and I had
to clean out one of the units.
473
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,370
There was an old army hat in there.
474
00:24:59,530 --> 00:25:01,086
And I was like, oh man, I like this hat.
475
00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:02,790
And I went to practice and I wore the hat.
476
00:25:03,450 --> 00:25:05,830
Ivan Pusky goes, that's who you are.
477
00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:07,730
From now on, you're GI Bro.
478
00:25:08,030 --> 00:25:10,070
And I go, GI Bro?
479
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:11,730
I like that.
480
00:25:11,870 --> 00:25:12,870
That's pretty cool.
481
00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:17,690
Right after we finished the course,
actually, by the grace of God,
482
00:25:17,890 --> 00:25:20,030
Ivan Pusky had local television here.
483
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:24,170
Fleshes Johnny Valiant watching just like
all you other fans out here in the W.W.A.
484
00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:27,030
of a local favorite here in Houston,
Texas, GI Bro.
485
00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:28,550
This guy is very charismatic.
486
00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:29,590
GI Bro.
487
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:30,570
GI, brother.
488
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:31,730
He's cranking it up.
489
00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:32,770
Ah, yeah.
490
00:25:33,050 --> 00:25:33,730
Count him out.
491
00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:34,910
Did he get him?
492
00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:35,590
Yes, he did.
493
00:25:35,850 --> 00:25:36,850
Control.
494
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:37,950
GI Bro.
495
00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:41,750
I got a chance to wrestle under Sam
Houston Coliseum.
496
00:25:41,890 --> 00:25:42,090
You know.
497
00:25:42,091 --> 00:25:43,930
Eight weeks out of the wrestling school.
498
00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:48,510
I remember after I started wrestling,
I had to take payroll to the bank.
499
00:25:49,290 --> 00:25:51,170
And they go, hey, aren't you GI Bro?
500
00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:53,550
And I was like, yeah, I'm GI Bro.
501
00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:56,030
You know, because they had watched me on
television.
502
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:58,590
Everybody's favorite GI Bro.
503
00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:05,390
The kids, they would just mob me.
504
00:26:05,490 --> 00:26:09,070
And they would just... And I was
like, man, what is going on here?
505
00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:10,070
I got a new haircut.
506
00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:11,270
Would you like to see it, man?
507
00:26:11,271 --> 00:26:12,271
Yeah, I want to see it.
508
00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:13,330
All right.
509
00:26:13,390 --> 00:26:14,210
That's GI Bro.
510
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:15,650
GI Bro is my name.
511
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:17,170
And beating people up is my game.
512
00:26:17,270 --> 00:26:18,350
Look in my eyes.
513
00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:21,962
That's when I'm going
to declare World War III
514
00:26:21,963 --> 00:26:24,790
on you and take you
clean out of the G-Men.
515
00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:26,010
Live!
516
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:32,310
I don't think I was ever asked one time
what I want to be when I grow up as a kid.
517
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:34,250
I don't think I was ever asked that once.
518
00:26:34,690 --> 00:26:36,530
Then I found myself through wrestling.
519
00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:38,310
It was an escape.
520
00:26:38,610 --> 00:26:40,690
It was something that I could do.
521
00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:41,250
And I was able to do it.
522
00:26:41,251 --> 00:26:42,830
I could do it very well.
523
00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:48,710
Put my boots on and become like a
superhero for a moment.
524
00:26:50,290 --> 00:26:51,930
I realized I had something.
525
00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:53,030
I had a connection.
526
00:26:54,970 --> 00:26:57,310
And I was like, wow, this is so cool.
527
00:26:57,530 --> 00:27:03,710
And I had so much fun finding myself as
far as possibly who I could be.
528
00:27:05,470 --> 00:27:09,212
After the Western Wrestling
Alliance closed down, Booker T
529
00:27:09,213 --> 00:27:13,010
and his brother went to work
for TAP, Texas All-Pro Wrestling.
530
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:17,470
I got Stevie Ray in an issue of Wrestling
Main Event magazine.
531
00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:18,910
And he got noticed.
532
00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:22,370
People up in Dallas at the GWF,
Global Wrestling.
533
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:24,110
Skander Agbar called him.
534
00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:25,670
They wanted him to come up to Dallas.
535
00:27:26,270 --> 00:27:27,890
And him and his brother went up there.
536
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:32,390
And Agbar and Hot Stuff Eddie Gilbert took
a liking to him right off the bat.
537
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:34,470
They went to give my brother a tryout.
538
00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:37,180
And my brother was
going to Dallas and of
539
00:27:37,181 --> 00:27:39,710
course jumped in the
car and I rode with him.
540
00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:40,850
We finally walk into Israel.
541
00:27:40,851 --> 00:27:43,770
Eddie Gilbert's office and Eddie Gilbert
was like, who's that?
542
00:27:43,930 --> 00:27:45,266
And I was like, hell, that's my brother.
543
00:27:45,290 --> 00:27:46,750
And he goes, is he a worker?
544
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:48,510
And I goes, yeah, he's a worker.
545
00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:50,770
He goes, have you guys ever done any tag
team?
546
00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:52,850
And we go, yeah.
547
00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:53,750
We were lying.
548
00:27:53,910 --> 00:27:55,590
We had never tagged together before.
549
00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:56,030
Ever.
550
00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:58,050
But we had tagged against each other
before.
551
00:27:58,590 --> 00:27:59,670
That's what we were saying.
552
00:27:59,710 --> 00:28:00,710
We have tagged together.
553
00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:03,630
And I said I wasn't lying.
554
00:28:04,330 --> 00:28:04,730
Boom.
555
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:07,210
That's how we got started in the Global
Wrestling Federation.
556
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:08,670
Just by accident.
557
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,710
It was just wrestling.
558
00:28:10,711 --> 00:28:11,786
We had a wrestler back in the day.
559
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:13,070
His name was Mr. Ebony.
560
00:28:13,230 --> 00:28:13,870
Black guy.
561
00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:14,550
He wore a mask.
562
00:28:14,770 --> 00:28:16,010
I never knew who Mr. Ebony was.
563
00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:19,950
But he was one of the black guys that was
representing us.
564
00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:22,350
So we remembered Mr. Ebony.
565
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:24,010
Why not be the Ebony Experience?
566
00:28:24,610 --> 00:28:25,790
Booker T and Stevie Ray.
567
00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:28,250
The Ebony Experience.
568
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:37,630
The Global Wrestling Federation was on
ESPN at the time.
569
00:28:37,631 --> 00:28:40,990
And it was geared towards that afternoon.
570
00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:42,470
Kids coming home from school.
571
00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:43,770
3.30 in the afternoon.
572
00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:45,230
There was a 30 minute show.
573
00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:46,590
And then there was an hour show.
574
00:28:46,830 --> 00:28:48,310
And it was based out of Dallas,
Texas.
575
00:28:48,730 --> 00:28:50,410
In the world famous Sportatorium.
576
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:53,310
Which I think is just world famous because
it's old.
577
00:28:53,630 --> 00:28:54,110
Ugly.
578
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,330
It stunk.
579
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:56,530
No air conditioning.
580
00:28:57,010 --> 00:28:58,010
And there were rats.
581
00:28:58,810 --> 00:29:00,310
The size of dogs.
582
00:29:01,010 --> 00:29:02,010
It had atmosphere.
583
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:03,450
It had atmosphere.
584
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:04,590
Let's just say that.
585
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,430
It almost took your life in your own
hands.
586
00:29:07,431 --> 00:29:10,529
Back then the police, if
somebody tried to stick you with
587
00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:12,911
a knife or hit you with a
whiskey bottle or something.
588
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:16,226
They would bring them back to the dressing
room and literally let you beat them up.
589
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:17,250
It was the Wild West.
590
00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:21,170
But there was a huge racist element there
too.
591
00:29:21,470 --> 00:29:24,287
People would sit there
and shout out some of
592
00:29:24,288 --> 00:29:27,631
the most vile things
imaginable at those guys.
593
00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:30,190
We got called the N-word of course.
594
00:29:30,850 --> 00:29:32,170
They didn't want to see us.
595
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:37,410
And those people called us every racial
epithet known to man.
596
00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:44,160
It wasn't the first time I had dealt with
racism in my life.
597
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,842
When I first got in the
wrestling business, a
598
00:29:47,843 --> 00:29:50,261
very very famous man
by the name of Ox Baker.
599
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:52,620
He told me, he said, kid you got a lot of
talent.
600
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,880
But you're going to come up against a lot
of obstacles in this business.
601
00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:59,640
He didn't say racism or anything like
that.
602
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,680
But I knew exactly what he was talking
about.
603
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040
You got to figure a way around it.
604
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:05,080
Under it.
605
00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:06,780
You may have to go over it.
606
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760
And that night we had to go right through
it.
607
00:30:08,761 --> 00:30:10,040
No matter what.
608
00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:12,496
You guys want to see what the competition
is looking like out here?
609
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440
You got to kill a big homeboy from Houston
that looks like me.
610
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,200
In the situation that you're in,
you got to be able to adapt.
611
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,960
You got to be able to figure it out.
612
00:30:20,060 --> 00:30:21,060
We had to face the fire.
613
00:30:21,220 --> 00:30:22,240
And we dealt with it.
614
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:25,620
You got to say, where did these guys come
up with this Ebony experience?
615
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440
What are they, a magazine or something
like that for ugly people?
616
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,280
But I learned the power of entertainment
that night.
617
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,920
I did the Spinaroonie in that match.
618
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,620
He did some type of hop, skip,
spin type thing I never saw before.
619
00:30:37,621 --> 00:30:38,360
Did you see that?
620
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:38,880
What was that?
621
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:40,376
They used to have them breakdance moves.
622
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,080
He did some... Same guy
that was calling me the N-word.
623
00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:45,960
He was totally excited when he saw the
Spinaroonie.
624
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,340
It totally changed him all in one breath.
625
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,000
And I was like, whoa, what was that?
626
00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:52,740
The fans started to change.
627
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Now the fans are rooting for us.
628
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:07,060
It was like the Rocky movie, man,
when Rocky was fighting Drago.
629
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:10,300
The Russian fans started rooting for the
underdog.
630
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,782
Because when I did
the Spinaroonie, it
631
00:31:12,794 --> 00:31:15,240
seemed like everything
changed in that arena.
632
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,380
I realized how much power the Spinaroonie
had, not just in the Global Wrestling
633
00:31:20,381 --> 00:31:22,780
Federation with those fans, but throughout
my whole career.
634
00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:27,480
We all love to dance.
635
00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:29,680
My mom loved to see us dance.
636
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,800
And we all had good rhythm, too.
637
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,160
Still, still have good rhythm.
638
00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:34,580
My cousin.
639
00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:35,540
Come over here, man.
640
00:31:35,740 --> 00:31:37,100
This is my cousin right here, man.
641
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,580
The neighborhood boys were always trying
to outdo each other.
642
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,860
With their dance moves.
643
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,420
That was the competition.
644
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,680
Michael Jackson had nothing on my
brothers.
645
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,540
We used to break dance on the patio.
646
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:50,536
That's where I learned the Spinaroonie at.
647
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,920
On his patio.
648
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Right around the corner, you know.
649
00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:54,740
We would be on that patio.
650
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,420
We had a cardboard box out there.
651
00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:57,460
We had a beat box.
652
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,340
We'd be out there breaking ourselves,
man.
653
00:31:59,620 --> 00:32:01,500
But that's where the Spinaroonie came
from.
654
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:03,580
That's where they learned those moves.
655
00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:05,140
That's where they learned to spin.
656
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,540
So that Spinaroonie came from a pop-lock
dance move.
657
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,776
Ladies and gentlemen, they're dynamic,
they're sensational.
658
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,820
They're the Lockers.
659
00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:19,290
The Lockers, they were it.
660
00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:22,630
That was the best dance group perhaps in
the history of the world.
661
00:32:24,530 --> 00:32:27,510
Fred rerun Barry used to be able to show
what's happening.
662
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:29,490
He was actually one of the Lockers.
663
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:32,058
And just watching
these guys move the way
664
00:32:32,059 --> 00:32:34,330
they did and perform
the way they performed.
665
00:32:34,590 --> 00:32:36,290
I wanted to be in a group.
666
00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:38,870
When I was a kid, I wanted to be one of
the Lockers.
667
00:32:38,871 --> 00:32:42,470
When I saw them on Soul Train, I was
like, man, how do I get on Soul Train?
668
00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:43,710
I gotta be a part of this.
669
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:47,379
The pop, lock and craze
start curving off a little bit
670
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:49,870
and then the breakdancing
curves start coming around.
671
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:57,720
I said, man, I'm gonna try this now.
672
00:32:57,780 --> 00:33:00,161
So any wrestling fan
around the world, you say
673
00:33:00,162 --> 00:33:02,961
Spinneruni, they know
who you're talking about.
674
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,720
Bad Bree, you're going down.
675
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,496
We're gonna take you out into the Ebony
Zone.
676
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,540
We're gonna drop you off into some Ebony
Funk, man.
677
00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:11,620
It wasn't about how much money I was
making.
678
00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:14,977
It was just being able
to do something that you
679
00:33:14,978 --> 00:33:17,400
love doing so much that
you would do it for free.
680
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,824
And my brother and I, we was
making 125 bucks, you know,
681
00:33:20,825 --> 00:33:23,440
to make the drive all the
way from Houston to Dallas.
682
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,320
And sometimes we would work four times in
one night.
683
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,620
Sleep on my sister's sofa and then get up
and make the drive back to Houston.
684
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,020
Junior wore out the couch in my den.
685
00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:38,520
Stevie Ray Lash wore out the couch in my
living room.
686
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,020
They would come every Friday and I know
they did that for a couple of years.
687
00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:48,860
It was just a great time to watch them get
better and more popular.
688
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,685
The fans weekly warmed
up and they started liking
689
00:33:53,686 --> 00:33:56,541
something that they
didn't even know they liked.
690
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,200
And then we started getting more black
fans coming into the arena.
691
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560
You just couldn't say anything anymore.
692
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:21,320
Within a few months, we were the hottest
thing in global.
693
00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:25,760
Everybody in the place had a sign with the
Ebony Experience on it.
694
00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:33,026
We finally got to that point
to where we had to win the
695
00:34:33,027 --> 00:34:35,890
tag team championship
and all of my family was there.
696
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:42,470
That night that they won, we screamed and
we cried.
697
00:34:42,810 --> 00:34:46,286
It was so great and
all I could think about
698
00:34:46,287 --> 00:34:50,271
was that I wish my mom
was there to see that.
699
00:34:51,830 --> 00:34:54,516
My brother and I, we had
accomplished something
700
00:34:54,517 --> 00:34:57,390
that we never dreamt of
accomplishing in our lives.
701
00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:02,340
We had watched it wrestling
on television for so many years
702
00:35:02,341 --> 00:35:05,170
and then we're the ones who
got the belts and holding them up.
703
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:08,570
These guys are superstars.
704
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:09,926
You knew they were going somewhere.
705
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:11,850
There was not a doubt in anybody's mind.
706
00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:13,430
It was like Hansel and Gretel.
707
00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:18,230
Somebody was dropping crumbs and we were
picking them up.
708
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:23,029
My brother and I, we had
regular jobs and we worked
709
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:25,670
in the Global Wrestling
Federation one night a week.
710
00:35:26,330 --> 00:35:28,370
And we did that for 18 months straight.
711
00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:32,230
We were getting ready to work one night
and the phone rang and a man named Mike
712
00:35:32,231 --> 00:35:35,470
Davis came in and goes, Hey man,
Sid Vicious wants to talk to you guys.
713
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:41,150
Sid Vicious had been watching us on
television and WCW was interested in us.
714
00:35:41,230 --> 00:35:42,630
We were like really excited.
715
00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:44,790
You know, like wow, Sid Vicious,
man.
716
00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:45,970
Wow.
717
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:47,670
And WCW, wow.
718
00:35:47,671 --> 00:35:51,290
One of the biggest companies in the world
and we had a great spot.
719
00:35:51,610 --> 00:35:53,190
We just had to come up with a name.
720
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:55,630
Houston Heat might have been put in there.
721
00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:56,370
Miami Heat.
722
00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,010
We was like, what about Harlem Heat?
723
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,930
Harlem Heat, okay, you get a picture in
your mind as to what Harlem Heat should be.
724
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:05,090
And boom, you start going for it.
725
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:06,030
Artistically.
726
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:10,770
We needed some cool shirts and we didn't
have no one to make them for us.
727
00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:12,832
So I didn't know the
country group or anything,
728
00:36:12,833 --> 00:36:14,710
but it turned out to
be Brooks and Dunn.
729
00:36:14,850 --> 00:36:17,510
And they had shirts and they had this cool
flame.
730
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:19,350
And they had this amazing pattern on them.
731
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:22,930
So I went and got us some Brooks and Dunn
shirts and had them tailored.
732
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:26,385
We made the hats out
of the sleeves actually
733
00:36:26,397 --> 00:36:28,590
because they had
flames on them as well.
734
00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:31,210
The ensemble actually came together and
looked pretty cool.
735
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:34,450
You know, we're going to see a new tag
team, the Harlem Heat.
736
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:36,841
And what an appropriate
name seeing that Harlem
737
00:36:36,842 --> 00:36:39,691
has been about 100
degrees the last two weeks.
738
00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:42,910
As a kid, you just like all the bright
colors and the energy.
739
00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:44,430
I just feel like they represented us.
740
00:36:44,431 --> 00:36:47,210
You know, it felt like they was from
around my way.
741
00:36:47,350 --> 00:36:47,890
Like, you know what I'm saying?
742
00:36:47,950 --> 00:36:49,936
How they talk, how they dress,
how they carry themselves.
743
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,270
And even their music was tight.
744
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:54,510
Like, they had the best music on WCW,
like, probably ever.
745
00:36:54,945 --> 00:36:56,510
Harlem Heat had cool ring music.
746
00:37:00,490 --> 00:37:01,490
They were
747
00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:13,390
two guys that were coming in who were bad
to the bone, man.
748
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:15,726
And they were going
to talk it, they were going
749
00:37:15,727 --> 00:37:17,831
to walk it, and they were
going to kick your ass.
750
00:37:22,610 --> 00:37:24,490
And they had an aura about them.
751
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:29,290
They were big, they were intimidating, they
were scary like big wrestlers should be.
752
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:30,030
Battle!
753
00:37:30,130 --> 00:37:30,570
Battle!
754
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:31,230
Battle!
755
00:37:31,610 --> 00:37:34,490
With the name Harlem Heat, I mean,
come on.
756
00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:36,790
You can't come up with a better name than
that anywhere.
757
00:37:36,850 --> 00:37:37,870
Take a look at this punk!
758
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:39,350
Stop!
759
00:37:39,351 --> 00:37:39,810
Stop!
760
00:37:40,110 --> 00:37:45,290
All the years my brother and I slept in
the same bed, we were a cohesive unit.
761
00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:49,370
Both of us brought the pain in our own
way.
762
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:51,650
My brother was grounded, sometimes I would
go air.
763
00:37:51,651 --> 00:37:53,570
But together, we gelled.
764
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:56,290
It's the Harlem Hangover!
765
00:38:02,450 --> 00:38:04,910
Harlem Heat did not really have a gimmick.
766
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,930
They were just big, black badasses that
really were themselves turned up.
767
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:13,656
And when they talked, I
felt like if I ran into them
768
00:38:13,657 --> 00:38:16,051
in the street, that would
be exactly how they are.
769
00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:20,350
The moves you punks makin', the routes you
takin', is gonna lead to heartbreakin'.
770
00:38:20,351 --> 00:38:21,410
This country hit town!
771
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:24,710
Up to below Mississippi, gonna get a lot
of heat raised up!
772
00:38:25,060 --> 00:38:31,310
Any gimmick that really works is an
exaggeration of who you are.
773
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:35,470
It was so easy to actually go out and know
what it's like to be in a fight.
774
00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:39,190
Because when you've been fighting your
whole life, you know what it feels like.
775
00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:41,530
You know what it's like to get hit in the
mouth as well.
776
00:38:41,770 --> 00:38:45,831
For my brother and I to go
out and produce drama from
777
00:38:45,832 --> 00:38:49,270
a realistic perspective
was just our field house.
778
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:49,930
We were at home.
779
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:51,550
We created these two guys.
780
00:38:51,551 --> 00:38:53,330
Now we gotta beat these two guys.
781
00:38:53,530 --> 00:38:56,470
A lot of times I just wanna come out and
just bust out laughin'.
782
00:38:56,471 --> 00:38:58,090
But I gotta hold it in.
783
00:38:58,770 --> 00:39:01,430
And I gotta try to keep this mean look on
my face, man.
784
00:39:01,510 --> 00:39:03,470
I have to put myself into this character.
785
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,490
I got to go into him all the way.
786
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:09,090
Watch us run them hillbillies straight out
of the hills, sucker!
787
00:39:09,370 --> 00:39:12,830
We had so much fun going down the road in
certain towns.
788
00:39:13,070 --> 00:39:15,130
Somebody is gonna get a Harlem hangover!
789
00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:17,037
People just hating us
to the point to where,
790
00:39:17,038 --> 00:39:19,070
man, they just wanna
kill these black guys.
791
00:39:19,071 --> 00:39:22,490
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Black
Hills of South Dakota.
792
00:39:22,850 --> 00:39:27,470
250,000 bikers are here for WCW All Wild.
793
00:39:27,970 --> 00:39:29,310
There's no black folks there.
794
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:29,670
None.
795
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:34,130
We're the only two black folks in Sturgis,
South Dakota at that time.
796
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:37,310
We almost started a riot.
797
00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:39,250
You won't, but you ain't gonna get them.
798
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:41,250
Just like all these suckers out here,
man.
799
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:45,438
Even the Steiner
brothers was like, hey man,
800
00:39:45,439 --> 00:39:46,980
don't do what y'all
usually do every night.
801
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,720
Cause y'all got the Hells Angels out
there.
802
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:50,516
We don't even know who the Hells Angels
are, you know.
803
00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:52,260
We getting ready to go do what we do.
804
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:53,940
You just gonna have to watch this.
805
00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:56,312
Cause we getting ready
to get in everybody's
806
00:39:56,324 --> 00:39:58,040
you-know-what,
Hells Angels or not.
807
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,260
We get out the ring and start talking
trash to everybody.
808
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:05,940
You know, I got a problem with rednecks.
809
00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:09,080
And as far as I'm concerned, everybody in
here is a redneck.
810
00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:10,180
You know what I'm saying?
811
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:13,440
Come on up in this ring and watch what
happened to you.
812
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:16,040
Not everybody's infuriated.
813
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,840
By the time we got through...
814
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:21,980
Oh yeah, we got a roar going now.
815
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:24,900
25,000 motorcycles it sounds like.
816
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,239
As far as you can see,
motorcycles and people, and
817
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,680
all of them revving their
engines at the same time.
818
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,200
They're cranking up the sound.
819
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:31,940
Oh yeah.
820
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,660
The fans are making noise.
821
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,780
Because we just told them what we thought
of them.
822
00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:38,520
It don't get any better than this.
823
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,758
Harlem Heat was able to
pull it off so well that the people
824
00:40:45,759 --> 00:40:49,020
in Harlem felt represented
by a couple of Texas boys.
825
00:40:49,021 --> 00:40:52,489
The Harlem Heat, they
are bad men off the streets
826
00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:54,920
of uptown Manhattan
in the heart of Harlem.
827
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:56,160
And gentlemen... Yes, Cole.
828
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,460
Shut up, Mean Gene, before I slap a patch
of hair on the top of your head.
829
00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:05,440
Being able to talk about certain landmarks
in Harlem that we fictitiously,
830
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,020
you know, thought of in our own minds was
really, really cool.
831
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,400
You know, one of the places that we used to
visit all the time was Artie's Pool Hall.
832
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:15,780
Three blocks south of Artie's Pool Hall.
833
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:17,760
Right on the corner of 110th Street.
834
00:41:17,761 --> 00:41:21,480
Gene, the graffiti is written all over the
neighborhood.
835
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,940
You're looking at a couple of straight OGs
from the hood.
836
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,543
I've had several
people come up to me to
837
00:41:27,555 --> 00:41:30,140
talk about when we
were kids back in Harlem.
838
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,200
You know, did I remember them from,
you know, back in the day?
839
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680
And of course you go, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I remember you.
840
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,120
Yeah, yeah, you know, you go right along
with it.
841
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,660
Only clique you need to know about is the
Harlem Heat.
842
00:41:40,661 --> 00:41:44,040
Booker T has the most viral wrestling
moment of all time, I guess, right?
843
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,620
Because he slips up, says the N-word.
844
00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:47,820
We coming for you!
845
00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:52,760
That was the problem with ad-libbing back
then.
846
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,956
That's probably why they write everybody's
stuff today.
847
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:59,040
And that's a word that we used a whole lot
back in the day when I was coming up.
848
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,120
And that's the first time and the last time
any of my peers ever heard me say that.
849
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,754
It is an interesting lesson in
not getting lost in your character
850
00:42:07,755 --> 00:42:10,340
or not being too real when
you're talking about somebody.
851
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:15,120
But that's the risk you run when you are
as authentic a character as Booker T is,
852
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:15,460
right?
853
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:16,100
That's right!
854
00:42:16,101 --> 00:42:19,680
We've been to hurt these punks Harlem
style, if you know what I'm saying.
855
00:42:19,940 --> 00:42:23,320
When I think about the early 90s and I
think about the black characters like your
856
00:42:23,321 --> 00:42:26,783
Coco Bewares and your
Papa Shongos and people who
857
00:42:26,784 --> 00:42:29,980
fit a lot of stereotypes but
also did not get pushed.
858
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:39,429
So watching two black guys
who go on to win championships
859
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:42,810
and did not back down from
who they were was great to watch.
860
00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:45,670
But also what's important is that these
are two brothers, right?
861
00:42:45,671 --> 00:42:47,410
Harlem Heat!
862
00:42:48,350 --> 00:42:55,090
So seeing a familial relationship between
black guys on TV who genuinely loved each
863
00:42:55,091 --> 00:42:58,831
other, who celebrated together, who had
each other's back was really empowering.
864
00:42:59,450 --> 00:43:04,150
That was so important for my brother and I
to go out there and represent because we
865
00:43:04,151 --> 00:43:07,290
knew young guys like we were was watching
us now.
866
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:12,509
Harlem Heat will go down
in history as being one of the
867
00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:14,771
greatest tag teams that
ever put on a pair of boots.
868
00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:20,480
That was just me and my brother being us.
869
00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:24,060
Natural born entertainers.
870
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,360
And that's what we pride ourselves on.
871
00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:30,400
Those are memories that me and my brother
will live with for the rest of our lives.
872
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:31,700
It was a journey.
873
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,020
It was the coolest nine years of my life.
874
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:37,000
All time greats.
875
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,180
We're immortalized forever in the WWE Hall
of Fame.
876
00:43:42,365 --> 00:43:44,660
I never thought about having a singles
career.
877
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:49,180
Never thought about it until it happened.
878
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,280
Now let's see how Booker T can operate as
a single wrestler.
879
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680
I never thought about having a singles
career.
880
00:44:00,380 --> 00:44:02,660
Never thought about it until it happened.
881
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:06,040
I told my brother, man, go ahead and go.
882
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,360
Go ahead and do your thing.
883
00:44:08,090 --> 00:44:09,170
And I gave him my blessing.
884
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600
As Booker T goes solo...
885
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,659
WCW starts getting to
this point where they're
886
00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:18,941
the biggest wrestling
promotion in the world.
887
00:44:19,875 --> 00:44:22,960
WCW was using money from the Turner
Organization.
888
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,680
They were part of a bigger corporation.
889
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:31,320
Scott Hall and Kevin Nash end up leaving
the WWE for a lot of money in WCW.
890
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:36,240
And they start this reality-based
storyline of a takeover.
891
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:38,666
And formed a group
with Hulk Hogan, who for
892
00:44:38,667 --> 00:44:41,280
the first time in his
career became a bad guy.
893
00:44:41,281 --> 00:44:42,820
Unheard of at the time.
894
00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:44,400
And started the New World Order.
895
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:48,940
The following announcement has been paid
for by the New World Order.
896
00:44:49,310 --> 00:44:53,060
When I came out as Hollywood Hulk Hogan
and W.O., we took off like a rocket.
897
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,020
So the Monday Night War started getting
really, really intense.
898
00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:58,880
We had Monday Night Raw on the USA
Network.
899
00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:04,080
They had Monday Nitro on TNT, on Ted
Turner's network.
900
00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:06,960
You're looking at every single rating
point.
901
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,720
Every eyeball we were competing for.
902
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,740
They beat us for 83 weeks in the ratings.
903
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,740
WCW became the top game in town.
904
00:45:18,820 --> 00:45:19,820
Honestly,
905
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:24,220
I really didn't care about the war.
906
00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:26,340
It had nothing to do with me.
907
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,540
I was making a lot of money.
908
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,660
I was in a place in my life that I'd never
imagined being in a million years.
909
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:37,020
As they're concentrating on the other big
stars.
910
00:45:37,021 --> 00:45:39,767
Booker T, right under
their noses, is just
911
00:45:39,768 --> 00:45:42,581
getting better and better
and better and better.
912
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,080
My peers, they always told me,
there's only one Tiger Woods of wrestling.
913
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,500
And I go, I appreciate that, bro.
914
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:54,120
That's when he became no longer a tag guy.
915
00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:57,160
That's when it was just like, okay,
he's a star.
916
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,720
You can tell when somebody has the it
factor.
917
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,780
Booker T just looked main event material.
918
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,400
He carried himself like the sky was the
limit.
919
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,080
He had it all.
920
00:46:06,081 --> 00:46:08,260
I used to raise the roof back then.
921
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,800
When I used to raise the roof,
everybody used to raise the roof with me.
922
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,820
And it let me know that, hey, I was moving
up.
923
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,221
And it was the
beginning of my run as a
924
00:46:20,233 --> 00:46:23,061
singles wrestler and
a whole different life.
925
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,140
I was born and raised in Gary,
Indiana.
926
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:30,680
Had a great childhood.
927
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,180
I caught the entertainment bug very,
very early.
928
00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:35,740
I started doing beauty pageants when I was
12 years old.
929
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,800
So that was always something that I
enjoyed.
930
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,440
And then I was always into dancing.
931
00:46:39,540 --> 00:46:40,880
That was my first love.
932
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:42,720
So all that ended up paying off.
933
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,396
You know, I went on to become Miss Black
America.
934
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:48,060
I ended up touring with James Brown,
Godfather of Soul.
935
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,656
So I spent three and a half years on the
road touring with him.
936
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,360
And then ended up in sports entertainment.
937
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,820
Here are the Nitro Girls.
938
00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:57,920
We met back in WCW when she was a Nitro
girl.
939
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,360
We started talking a little bit on the
movie set of Ready to Rumble.
940
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,180
Then we just gradually became friends.
941
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:10,735
He was always very polite,
very well dressed, and he looked
942
00:47:10,736 --> 00:47:13,100
like a businessman instead
of a professional wrestler.
943
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,900
That was my first impression of him.
944
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:19,220
But I will never forget when I heard him
listening to Tupac.
945
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,058
And that surprised me
because to me I thought
946
00:47:21,059 --> 00:47:24,020
he would listen to Frank
Sinatra and not Tupac.
947
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,200
So I got to know a few things about him.
948
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,940
He's a great guy all around.
949
00:47:29,060 --> 00:47:30,780
I got to see he's really, really funny.
950
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,960
He's really, really silly.
951
00:47:32,961 --> 00:47:34,360
So we just kind of gelled.
952
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,480
We just kind of meshed.
953
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,780
And it was very exciting to
see Booker be able to carve out
954
00:47:38,781 --> 00:47:41,920
a path for himself because
he was such an amazing talent.
955
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:57,430
All the backstage drama
that went on that night put
956
00:47:57,431 --> 00:48:00,151
more light on me actually
winning the championship.
957
00:48:00,450 --> 00:48:02,470
Me winning it just would have been me
winning it.
958
00:48:02,570 --> 00:48:08,130
The title match is between Jeff Jarrett
and Hulk Hogan.
959
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:12,670
The story is that Hulk Hogan wants to win,
doesn't want to lose to Jeff Jarrett.
960
00:48:12,671 --> 00:48:13,791
Jeff Jarrett's the champion.
961
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:17,590
The writer, Vince Russo, he doesn't want
Hogan to be the champion.
962
00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:19,290
He wants Jeff Jarrett to hold on to it.
963
00:48:19,370 --> 00:48:22,491
They can't come to an
agreement because Hulk Hogan in
964
00:48:22,492 --> 00:48:25,670
real life has a creative
control clause in his contract.
965
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:28,270
There's a million stories and everybody
has their opinion.
966
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:33,490
All I know is when I signed on with WCW I
had what's called creative control.
967
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:35,610
I'm going to exercise my creative control.
968
00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:38,230
I'm going to go ahead and beat Jarrett
one, two, three.
969
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:39,810
It went right up Russo's ass.
970
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:41,790
What's Jeff doing?
971
00:48:43,450 --> 00:48:45,010
Russo, I think, told Jarrett to lie.
972
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,540
What in the world, Jeff Jarrett?
973
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:56,820
I took the belt and I left.
974
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:57,760
What the hell?
975
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,720
I think we're deviating from the script.
976
00:48:59,860 --> 00:49:01,980
I hesitate to say that, but what the hell
is going on?
977
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,100
Is this storyline?
978
00:49:03,260 --> 00:49:04,340
Is this real life?
979
00:49:04,460 --> 00:49:05,760
Is this some weird mixture?
980
00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:09,100
Vince Russo says they have two world
championships now.
981
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:12,200
There will be a new WCW belt.
982
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Jeff Jarrett and Booker T fight for it
later on in the evening.
983
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,320
Opportunity has knocked and I will be
damned if I don't win.
984
00:49:19,340 --> 00:49:24,040
I am going to do what I have to do tonight
to take that gold home, take it around my
985
00:49:24,041 --> 00:49:25,636
waist and take it into the next
millennium.
986
00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:26,940
How can you dig that, G?
987
00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:27,500
I can.
988
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:28,720
Tony, back to you.
989
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,425
Not just did the fans not
expect this to be going
990
00:49:33,426 --> 00:49:36,701
on, me and Booker didn't
expect it to be going on.
991
00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:39,400
I watched everything play out just like
America.
992
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,591
I had about ten minutes to
prepare for the biggest moment of
993
00:49:44,592 --> 00:49:47,740
my life in professional
wrestling, but I was prepared for it.
994
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:53,020
I got there by working my ass off and I
started at the bottom of that company.
995
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,940
And I went out and I performed every
single night.
996
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,680
It's been a long journey, a lot of titles,
but never the big one.
997
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,020
This is Booker T's chance.
998
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,882
When I finally got in
that position, I always
999
00:50:05,883 --> 00:50:08,361
wondered if the fans wanted
to see a black champion.
1000
00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:12,580
WCW hadn't had a black champion since Ron
Simmons.
1001
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:16,180
There was a lot of questions in my mind.
1002
00:50:16,181 --> 00:50:21,340
You know, if the fans really, really
wanted to see me in that position,
1003
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:28,060
I'm just so happy that people looked past
my color and said, this is the guy.
1004
00:50:37,350 --> 00:50:39,950
Booker T and Jeff Jarrett brawling through
the crowd.
1005
00:50:41,650 --> 00:50:49,650
He's the world champion!
1006
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:56,070
The crowd erupted.
1007
00:50:56,170 --> 00:50:57,170
They went crazy.
1008
00:50:57,310 --> 00:50:59,650
I was like, wow, man, they really care
about me.
1009
00:50:59,710 --> 00:51:00,950
They really want to see me win.
1010
00:51:01,590 --> 00:51:03,310
It was the moment that changed my life.
1011
00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:09,200
It's one of my most fond memories in my
career.
1012
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,652
I'm the guy that Booker
beat to become the
1013
00:51:11,653 --> 00:51:13,780
world champion for
his very first title reign.
1014
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:15,260
I'm pretty proud of that.
1015
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:20,286
He became champion
and it was a great crowning
1016
00:51:20,287 --> 00:51:23,341
achievement for him,
evolving and elevating himself.
1017
00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:29,800
And Booker T, especially for black boys and
girls who watch wrestling, he is a hero.
1018
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:37,500
Booker has so much respect from all the
guys and girls in the locker room that
1019
00:51:37,501 --> 00:51:39,663
when he came back
through the curtain after
1020
00:51:39,664 --> 00:51:41,760
winning, people were
standing there and applauding.
1021
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:44,060
I remember a few of us had tears in our
eyes.
1022
00:51:44,140 --> 00:51:47,063
It just really was a special
moment to finally see
1023
00:51:47,064 --> 00:51:50,120
him rise to the top because
he really deserved it.
1024
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:06,320
WWE was synonymous with the best in sports
entertainment.
1025
00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:07,360
How you doing, pal?
1026
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,360
I'm fine, thank you.
1027
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,980
And now we were being challenged.
1028
00:52:10,981 --> 00:52:16,860
So it creates an atmosphere of having to
fight from underneath, creating new and
1029
00:52:16,861 --> 00:52:21,109
unique storylines, new
and unique talents, and
1030
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:25,241
changing the way we
looked at the business.
1031
00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:30,147
It made WWE regroup, taking
the gloves off and changing
1032
00:52:30,148 --> 00:52:32,741
what the company was and
going with the Attitude Era.
1033
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,720
Oh my!
1034
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:37,580
Oh my God!
1035
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,640
Good Lord have mercy!
1036
00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:40,780
Somebody's gonna get their ass whipped!
1037
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:43,768
When that energy comes out,
that intensity comes out, and I
1038
00:52:43,769 --> 00:52:46,940
look like an ass-kicking machine,
it was all about the attitude.
1039
00:52:59,710 --> 00:53:05,410
We had a badass locker room full of men
who had starved, kicked, scratched,
1040
00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:09,464
clawed to get to the
top, or who weren't afraid
1041
00:53:09,465 --> 00:53:12,210
to go out on a limb
and push the envelope.
1042
00:53:12,550 --> 00:53:13,550
Oh my God!
1043
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:14,670
Look at this collection!
1044
00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:21,960
When we started kicking WCW's ass,
we just took off.
1045
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:25,400
And their infrastructure was kind of
unorganized and kind of...
1046
00:53:25,401 --> 00:53:26,620
started falling apart.
1047
00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:28,820
And then we just crushed them.
1048
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:32,204
And then, later on down
the road, Vince would buy the
1049
00:53:32,205 --> 00:53:34,760
company from Ted Turner
for pennies on the dollar.
1050
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,920
I, Vince McMahon, bought my competition.
1051
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,100
That's right, I own WCW.
1052
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:46,360
They raised the flag, and they say we won.
1053
00:53:47,290 --> 00:53:48,290
The war is over.
1054
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:50,819
For all of us in World
Championship Wrestling,
1055
00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:52,440
a historic day in
sports entertainment.
1056
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,940
This is the last Nitro on the Turner
Network.
1057
00:53:54,941 --> 00:53:56,301
And we're going out with the bang.
1058
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,980
All the titles on the line.
1059
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:00,400
I didn't know it was going to happen.
1060
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:01,880
I didn't see it coming.
1061
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,480
Until that night, I found out that I was
going to be going out dual champ.
1062
00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:11,520
And close the company down as world
champion and as United States champion.
1063
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,220
Picks him up, Booker T.
1064
00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:14,420
Lanes on his feet.
1065
00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:15,040
He's got it!
1066
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:15,440
Booker!
1067
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:16,760
Here it is!
1068
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,260
It's one!
1069
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Two!
1070
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:18,560
Could it be it?
1071
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:18,980
Yes!
1072
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:20,100
Yes!
1073
00:54:20,140 --> 00:54:24,680
Booker T is WCW World Champion!
1074
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:26,620
And it's the last Monday Nitro.
1075
00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:29,080
What a night for Booker T.
1076
00:54:30,260 --> 00:54:32,880
I didn't feel sad like everybody else did.
1077
00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:35,340
I lost my mother when I was 13.
1078
00:54:35,780 --> 00:54:38,160
So I always knew nothing lasts forever.
1079
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,951
I remember one of
the guys actually talking
1080
00:54:40,952 --> 00:54:43,080
to me, and he literally
had tears in his eyes.
1081
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:45,940
He was like, man, Book, it's the end of
WCW, man.
1082
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,160
It's over.
1083
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,280
He goes, man, what are you going to do,
man?
1084
00:54:49,281 --> 00:54:50,281
What are you going to do?
1085
00:54:50,955 --> 00:54:52,220
I said, man, I'm going to WWE.
1086
00:54:53,250 --> 00:54:54,260
You know what I mean?
1087
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:55,780
What else could I do?
1088
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,880
I don't think we knew that we were going
to keep Booker.
1089
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:05,300
I had no idea.
1090
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:10,780
When you're looking at the talent base and
you're looking at talent that's available,
1091
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:18,100
all of these top tier talents chose to
stay on their AOL Time Warner contract.
1092
00:55:18,101 --> 00:55:22,700
Stay at home, collect their money,
not go to work.
1093
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:26,960
I stayed at home for 17 months and got
paid bank.
1094
00:55:28,180 --> 00:55:28,660
Bank.
1095
00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:33,266
But then you have a guy,
Booker T, who did have a pretty
1096
00:55:33,267 --> 00:55:38,300
good guaranteed contract,
who said, man, I want to work.
1097
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,340
I want to be a star on the biggest
platform I can.
1098
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,640
I was a performer.
1099
00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:44,140
I was talent.
1100
00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:46,220
Something I tell young people all the
time.
1101
00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:46,740
You know?
1102
00:55:46,741 --> 00:55:48,240
Believe in your talent.
1103
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,320
Do not forsake your talent.
1104
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:54,220
Going into the WWE locker room,
those guys didn't too much care for us.
1105
00:55:54,380 --> 00:55:56,380
They weren't going to treat us special or
anything.
1106
00:55:56,460 --> 00:55:57,500
They didn't want us there.
1107
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,260
And I understood that.
1108
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:03,660
I was ready to go out there and show those
guys I was just as good as I said I was.
1109
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:10,380
Booker had enough confidence in himself to
step up and say, put me in.
1110
00:56:30,490 --> 00:56:32,270
Man, it was a good night for me.
1111
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:33,090
Debut.
1112
00:56:33,091 --> 00:56:34,491
The interview dropped Steve Austin.
1113
00:56:35,230 --> 00:56:35,690
Booker T.
1114
00:56:35,890 --> 00:56:36,890
I'm off and running.
1115
00:56:37,230 --> 00:56:38,230
Everything's beautiful.
1116
00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:42,550
My first thought was, hey man,
Booker T just came in here.
1117
00:56:42,590 --> 00:56:44,430
He just took away what I do for a living.
1118
00:56:44,770 --> 00:56:47,250
Broke three transverse processes in my
back.
1119
00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:49,610
And I was in intense pain.
1120
00:56:49,930 --> 00:56:53,590
And I was like, what in the F just
happened?
1121
00:56:57,490 --> 00:57:00,410
There is that layer of, hey man,
we need to watch this guy.
1122
00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:02,610
Or is he safe to work with?
1123
00:57:02,790 --> 00:57:04,170
Or is he going to do that to me?
1124
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:08,270
Steve Austin had to kind of stroke at that
time in the company where he could have
1125
00:57:08,271 --> 00:57:09,862
went to the office
and said, man, this guy
1126
00:57:09,863 --> 00:57:11,590
is reckless and doesn't
know what he's doing.
1127
00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:13,570
Even though it wasn't my fault.
1128
00:57:13,810 --> 00:57:15,850
When I look back at it, he did everything
right.
1129
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:17,630
He executed with perfection.
1130
00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:20,930
But I was so sweaty when I hit the top of
that desk.
1131
00:57:21,010 --> 00:57:23,850
I just skipped off and my back hit a
chair.
1132
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:25,590
It was an accident.
1133
00:57:26,030 --> 00:57:26,710
Accidents happen.
1134
00:57:26,970 --> 00:57:30,930
But hey man, any time the lead guy goes
down and someone has done something to
1135
00:57:30,931 --> 00:57:33,610
him, yeah, you might have some heat on you
from the voice.
1136
00:57:33,611 --> 00:57:36,477
You walk in the door coming
from somewhere else and you take
1137
00:57:36,478 --> 00:57:39,051
out one of the top guys that's
putting food on all our tables.
1138
00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:40,623
That's not going to
sit well with a lot of
1139
00:57:40,624 --> 00:57:42,330
people because most of
these guys never met him.
1140
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:45,850
Who in the blue hell are you?
1141
00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:50,790
Coming into that company, it wasn't going
to be easy for me by any means.
1142
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:52,930
Hell, my name is Booker.
1143
00:57:52,931 --> 00:57:54,810
It doesn't matter what your name is!
1144
00:57:57,580 --> 00:58:00,240
You can bring someone in up at the top.
1145
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:02,710
It's difficult for them to stay there.
1146
00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:05,820
Especially when you have the kind of
personality and the kind of character.
1147
00:58:05,821 --> 00:58:07,700
The kind of talent of a Steve Austin.
1148
00:58:07,940 --> 00:58:08,420
Rock.
1149
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:09,820
Undertaker.
1150
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,240
Rock!
1151
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:19,380
I would say you're the sucker!
1152
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Sucker!
1153
00:58:24,820 --> 00:58:25,820
Book hung.
1154
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,980
Book hung and said, y'all come on up to
me.
1155
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,140
The bottom line is, if you come to WWE,
you better be able to work.
1156
00:58:33,580 --> 00:58:35,840
And Booker T can work his ass off.
1157
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,780
He wasn't accepted just because we liked
him.
1158
00:58:37,781 --> 00:58:39,540
He was accepted because he was damn good.
1159
00:58:39,740 --> 00:58:43,200
It was kind of the Jack Nicholson,
wait till they get a load of me.
1160
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,600
Yeah, Big Henry, you better lace them up
tonight.
1161
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:49,840
Because we finna be moving and flying and
singing, baby.
1162
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,980
The greats can't stick to a script.
1163
00:58:54,380 --> 00:58:55,380
It's emotional.
1164
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,260
To make it real, it's got to look raw.
1165
00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:01,120
It's got to look uncut.
1166
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,020
If we're close enough to the fans,
I want sweat to fly all over them.
1167
00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:10,780
That part is as real as it possibly can
get.
1168
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Book has a unique ability to relate to the
audience and conversely.
1169
00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:17,840
And that's really what you're looking for.
1170
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,000
He's a man who gave it all.
1171
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,240
He had an opportunity, he was going with
it.
1172
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:26,340
I want the fan that was watching to have
that same feeling that I did.
1173
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,480
It was an out-of-body experience.
1174
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,220
I could tell what the fans were feeling
because I was one of them.
1175
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,420
You would have never thought that somebody
with...
1176
00:59:37,595 --> 00:59:40,087
the talent that he had
in the ring, he would
1177
00:59:40,088 --> 00:59:42,360
have just as much
talent behind the scenes.
1178
00:59:42,810 --> 00:59:44,740
You can't just define him as a wrestler.
1179
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,600
He was an entertainer.
1180
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,180
Now can't you dig that?
1181
00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:56,480
Booker watches a lot of movies.
1182
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,856
He's always studied movies
his whole life, whether it be
1183
00:59:59,916 --> 01:00:02,196
kung fu movies or, you know,
any type of action movies.
1184
01:00:02,220 --> 01:00:06,661
So I really do believe that if he weren't a
wrestler, he would definitely be an actor.
1185
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:13,200
A lot of those movies
were... my escapes as well.
1186
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,280
And I used to skip school and go to the
Majestic OST.
1187
01:00:16,460 --> 01:00:18,840
And all of those movies made me feel a
certain way.
1188
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,880
I literally would go to that place.
1189
01:00:21,020 --> 01:00:22,176
A little bit more structure here.
1190
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,180
I literally would be in that movie.
1191
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:25,710
I knew every line.
1192
01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:26,940
I knew every scene.
1193
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,320
I knew what made that
scene work because of what
1194
01:00:30,321 --> 01:00:32,660
happened before it and
what's going to happen after.
1195
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,740
And that's what wrestling has always been.
1196
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:38,540
So for me, my WCW career was so serious
all the time.
1197
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,040
It was never a laughing moment.
1198
01:00:40,041 --> 01:00:43,100
And then when I got to WWE, everything
changed.
1199
01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:44,220
Booyah!
1200
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,660
Hey, what's up, suckas?
1201
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:50,360
Your ass is about to get waxed by the
fire-type Master Jedi Champion!
1202
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:52,200
Now can you dig that?
1203
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,300
He was always a comedian.
1204
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,120
He always liked to make people laugh.
1205
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,140
Tell me I don't look like that!
1206
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,020
That just came.
1207
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,420
And we would all do little skits at home
and make up things.
1208
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,020
So, you know, just what kids do who don't
have a lot of money.
1209
01:01:12,021 --> 01:01:14,220
You have a great imagination.
1210
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,120
Imagine what we could be and what we could
do.
1211
01:01:23,980 --> 01:01:25,640
You didn't say that.
1212
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,620
Tell me you didn't just say that.
1213
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,980
You just gave me the key to your heart,
baby.
1214
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:34,540
Yeah!
1215
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,320
It's like the actor in a film that you've
only seen play a very serious,
1216
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,760
badass role.
1217
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,740
Oh, my goodness.
1218
01:01:42,741 --> 01:01:44,900
And then you see him in a
buddy comedy and you're
1219
01:01:44,901 --> 01:01:47,400
like, oh, my God, I had no
idea this guy was so funny.
1220
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:49,620
And, like, it just opens up a whole new
world for you.
1221
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:51,280
Womp, womp, womp, womp, womp!
1222
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:53,160
Womp, womp, womp, womp, womp, womp,
womp, womp!
1223
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,920
Look, that ain't me, bro.
1224
01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:57,040
You know, I got the feel of what I'm
doing, man.
1225
01:01:57,220 --> 01:01:57,580
Bitch!
1226
01:01:57,900 --> 01:01:58,900
You know, I got the feel.
1227
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,360
Now can you dig it?
1228
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Suckas!
1229
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,560
Just because you know kung fu...
1230
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,020
doesn't mean you know shampoo.
1231
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,040
But that's all about to change.
1232
01:02:12,041 --> 01:02:13,580
Thanks to new...
1233
01:02:15,860 --> 01:02:16,860
Yakimoshi Shampoo.
1234
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:20,880
It won't make your hair look as good as
mine.
1235
01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:24,580
But you gotta start somewhere.
1236
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,260
Give me the script and let me make it what
I want it to be, no matter what it is.
1237
01:02:29,340 --> 01:02:30,340
I don't care what it is.
1238
01:02:30,460 --> 01:02:31,460
Nah.
1239
01:02:31,660 --> 01:02:33,180
Let's see if they're fresh.
1240
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,370
The creative tells us,
hey, man, you and Booker
1241
01:02:36,371 --> 01:02:38,721
are gonna have this
brawl in a grocery store.
1242
01:02:39,220 --> 01:02:39,660
Okay.
1243
01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:41,520
Here's a blank canvas.
1244
01:02:42,065 --> 01:02:45,060
That Booker T and I are gonna have an
opportunity to paint together.
1245
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,440
Action.
1246
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,920
We created magic.
1247
01:02:50,660 --> 01:02:51,140
Yes!
1248
01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:52,060
Austin!
1249
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,640
Austin, I got you, Booker T!
1250
01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:54,380
Booker!
1251
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:55,180
Booker!
1252
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:55,920
Booker!
1253
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,120
Put
1254
01:03:02,340 --> 01:03:03,700
some ketchup in that ass, Booker.
1255
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,280
Huh?
1256
01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:05,740
Booker!
1257
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,400
Booker!
1258
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:06,760
Booker!
1259
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:07,740
Booker!
1260
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,200
Booker!
1261
01:03:08,201 --> 01:03:09,201
I'm a Booker!
1262
01:03:09,340 --> 01:03:12,320
I'm walking through the store,
up an aisle, down an aisle.
1263
01:03:12,380 --> 01:03:13,660
You're working off of instincts.
1264
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,940
I like shopping, Booker.
1265
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:15,620
Booker!
1266
01:03:15,621 --> 01:03:17,300
As if you were in the ring.
1267
01:03:17,301 --> 01:03:19,740
You know you're trying to entertain
people.
1268
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:21,880
Let's go find some more bars.
1269
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,260
Booker with a shot to the jaw of Austin.
1270
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,660
Hey, Booker, you got milk?
1271
01:03:29,460 --> 01:03:34,940
I'm action, he's reaction, and his
reactions were just off-the-chart gold.
1272
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,240
You want a burst?
1273
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,120
This is what wrestling is right here.
1274
01:03:40,260 --> 01:03:43,300
The stuff that we do in the ring does one
thing, but this is wrestling.
1275
01:03:43,620 --> 01:03:47,280
By the time it was all said and done,
it was about $10,000 worth of money.
1276
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:48,396
It was about $10,000 worth of damage to
that store.
1277
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:49,960
Price check on a jackass.
1278
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,220
People still remember that line.
1279
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:54,200
Price check on a jackass.
1280
01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:02,066
Booker T and I painted
a Mona Lisa with a bunch
1281
01:04:02,067 --> 01:04:04,981
of damn stuff that you'd
find in a grocery store.
1282
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Who at 6'3 and 260 pounds can do like the
Spinaroonie?
1283
01:04:12,540 --> 01:04:15,680
You know, the breakdance and move up on
his shoulders, flip up and...
1284
01:04:15,681 --> 01:04:18,960
It starts with the hand, of course,
and then you drop to one knee.
1285
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:22,060
All the centrifugal force comes from the
dress.
1286
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:25,426
You know, once you shake
the dress, it goes through the
1287
01:04:25,427 --> 01:04:28,600
body all the way down to the
legs, which gives you torque.
1288
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:46,040
The Spinaroonie in concept is not like
that silly.
1289
01:04:46,180 --> 01:04:47,651
Like, it's a cool way
to get up and get to
1290
01:04:47,652 --> 01:04:50,541
your feet, and it's just
a charismatic moment.
1291
01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:55,740
But over time, the Spinaroonie kind of
took on a life of its own.
1292
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:58,060
Everybody had a Rooney.
1293
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,820
The most infamous night was trying to get
the Undertaker to do the Takeroonie.
1294
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,180
I think it's time for the Undertaker
Rooney!
1295
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,440
If you know the Undertaker, like,
he don't come out of character.
1296
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,020
Ever.
1297
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:14,440
I try to get him to do it.
1298
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,080
You know, I tell the fans, you know,
get the fans hyped up.
1299
01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:19,180
Get up!
1300
01:05:30,740 --> 01:05:34,280
And Taker looks at me and he goes,
I'm gonna kill you.
1301
01:05:38,070 --> 01:05:43,750
All the name players on the card come out,
and literally, we're 30 minutes after
1302
01:05:43,751 --> 01:05:47,030
we're off the air, trying to get the
Undertaker to do the Spinaroonie.
1303
01:05:47,070 --> 01:05:48,570
Everybody does the Spinaroonie.
1304
01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:50,530
You wanna see The Rock do the
Rock-A-Rooney?
1305
01:05:51,110 --> 01:05:52,110
In
1306
01:05:54,970 --> 01:05:56,410
hell you can do something like that!
1307
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,300
Vince McMahon, he does the worst
Spinaroonie I ever seen in my life.
1308
01:06:13,660 --> 01:06:17,520
Out of all the wrestlers, I've gotten
everyone to do it.
1309
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:19,340
Except The Undertaker.
1310
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,360
He's the only one still to this day.
1311
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,320
Ain't a chance in hell I'm gonna get out
here and do the Spinaroonie.
1312
01:06:24,620 --> 01:06:26,220
So you might better send the Calvary.
1313
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,860
My first son, he's 35 years old now.
1314
01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:42,220
We had a somewhat of a rough life growing
up.
1315
01:06:43,660 --> 01:06:45,920
And I thought it was due to me being on
the road a lot.
1316
01:06:45,980 --> 01:06:47,140
Being on the road, wrestling.
1317
01:06:47,380 --> 01:06:48,420
Not being there.
1318
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,600
When I got in the wrestling business,
he went to stay with my sister.
1319
01:06:51,940 --> 01:06:55,200
When he'd get a weekend off, he would fly
from Atlanta.
1320
01:06:55,201 --> 01:06:57,140
And he'd come back to Houston.
1321
01:06:57,655 --> 01:06:58,895
And they'd spend time together.
1322
01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:02,160
Still trying to get a relationship with
his son.
1323
01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:04,020
It was just a process.
1324
01:07:04,810 --> 01:07:07,400
I'm sure they had their ups and downs.
1325
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,540
My son turned 16, 17 years old.
1326
01:07:10,740 --> 01:07:14,200
And that's when it really got tough
between him and I.
1327
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,100
It was always just rocky.
1328
01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:20,620
My son ended up going down that same road
that I did.
1329
01:07:20,830 --> 01:07:21,990
You know, getting in trouble.
1330
01:07:22,605 --> 01:07:23,685
You know, even as an adult.
1331
01:07:23,890 --> 01:07:25,180
That's why he's not here right now.
1332
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,120
He's sitting in a jail cell.
1333
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:30,680
You know, waiting to see exactly what's
going to happen with his life.
1334
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:31,880
You know?
1335
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,000
You know, he's still my son.
1336
01:07:34,930 --> 01:07:35,930
I'm still there for him.
1337
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,640
It was totally different when I had my son
because I was a kid myself.
1338
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,420
You know, I was only 17 years old.
1339
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,380
Not having that male presence in my life
was a huge factor.
1340
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,600
But I tried my best.
1341
01:07:48,860 --> 01:07:53,460
I tried to make sure I did the same thing
that my mom did for me.
1342
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,120
And that was work.
1343
01:07:55,121 --> 01:07:56,360
My butt off.
1344
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,780
I tried to give my son an image that I
wanted him to actually be like.
1345
01:08:01,060 --> 01:08:03,940
But I didn't have the
tools to actually be able
1346
01:08:03,941 --> 01:08:06,160
to teach him everything
that he needed to know.
1347
01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:07,740
Especially from an educational side.
1348
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,000
He was so young.
1349
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:12,680
A young, single parent without a wife.
1350
01:08:12,860 --> 01:08:13,760
Working hard.
1351
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:15,140
Building up his career.
1352
01:08:15,340 --> 01:08:17,180
A lot of time on the road.
1353
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,580
But then when that second phase of his
life came around, there was different
1354
01:08:22,581 --> 01:08:26,420
dynamics that played into the role of
fatherhood.
1355
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:28,780
He was stable.
1356
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,580
He was more established in his career.
1357
01:08:31,740 --> 01:08:33,780
He married a wonderful woman.
1358
01:08:36,820 --> 01:08:39,940
Booker and I were married February 5th,
2005.
1359
01:08:41,060 --> 01:08:44,480
It was a beautiful ceremony in my hometown
of Gary, Indiana.
1360
01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:48,400
I only had, I think, three months to plan
the wedding because of our schedule.
1361
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,280
Most women want to have a year to plan and
find the perfect dress and all that.
1362
01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:55,300
I didn't have time for any of that.
1363
01:08:55,301 --> 01:08:58,420
It was definitely a whirlwind and then
right back to work the following week.
1364
01:08:59,820 --> 01:09:02,140
I was going to quit the company right
after we got married.
1365
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,600
I didn't want to be away from Charmelle.
1366
01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:06,236
I didn't want to be on the road all the
time.
1367
01:09:06,260 --> 01:09:09,600
He was considering cutting back on his
work.
1368
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,820
And all of a sudden they decided to bring
me in.
1369
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,840
To bring me back.
1370
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:19,920
So, babe, I don't know how you felt the
first time you saw our action figures.
1371
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,980
Because I know you've had action figures
before.
1372
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,420
But this was my very first one.
1373
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:23,840
Yeah.
1374
01:09:23,841 --> 01:09:24,841
This is amazing.
1375
01:09:24,980 --> 01:09:27,720
How many husbands and wives do you think
have this?
1376
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Yeah, it's crazy.
1377
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,180
He's always called me his queen.
1378
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,320
So we kind of just transitioned that into
wrestling.
1379
01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:37,240
The true life stories make for the best
work, right?
1380
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,740
So it kind of just easily flowed into King
Booker and Queen Charmelle.
1381
01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:53,260
It was just entertaining.
1382
01:09:53,420 --> 01:09:55,420
It was something that people had never
seen before.
1383
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,080
And then they had never seen Booker T in
that light before.
1384
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,920
He was always rugged, raw, you know,
tough.
1385
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,180
And now he's coming out.
1386
01:10:02,181 --> 01:10:03,400
And just like prancing around.
1387
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,960
Elegant and classy and pompous.
1388
01:10:07,540 --> 01:10:09,100
Contradictory on every level.
1389
01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:10,260
I thought it was brilliant.
1390
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,700
It was such an awesome, awesome time in my
career.
1391
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:14,800
So much fun.
1392
01:10:14,940 --> 01:10:16,300
Man, this fool is crazy.
1393
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,600
He really is crazy.
1394
01:10:17,780 --> 01:10:20,820
He would just open up the cape and he'd
have his scepter.
1395
01:10:20,860 --> 01:10:23,780
And he'd just twirl around and look so
very majestic.
1396
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,260
All of the little things that he did
really made that character amazing.
1397
01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:31,920
This guy is walking around like he's
royalty.
1398
01:10:31,921 --> 01:10:34,460
Holding his pinky up in the air.
1399
01:10:35,180 --> 01:10:37,220
I think he was just making it up as he
goes.
1400
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,320
As I ponder... He started
speaking in a bad British accent.
1401
01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:44,239
...has become a
much, much better place
1402
01:10:44,251 --> 01:10:47,460
since I, King Booker,
has become ruler of it.
1403
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,740
It was almost like Kevin Costner in Robin
Hood.
1404
01:10:50,105 --> 01:10:51,816
Like he would float in and out of the
accent.
1405
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,700
If you got him too angry, then his British
accent went right back to the hood.
1406
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:58,380
It's going to be in a steel cage.
1407
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,840
Hell no!
1408
01:11:00,140 --> 01:11:00,940
Hell no!
1409
01:11:00,941 --> 01:11:02,200
Hell no!
1410
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:08,360
People would actually treat me like a king
as well.
1411
01:11:08,620 --> 01:11:12,280
I don't think I paid for a meal the whole
year I was King Booker anywhere.
1412
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:17,120
This is Booker Teef reaching that nirvana
of character development.
1413
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:21,860
The culmination of all of Booker Teef's
years in wrestling.
1414
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,820
All of that sort of led to him finding this
perfect character that was undeniable.
1415
01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:29,500
I mean to the point where you got to give
him the championship.
1416
01:11:29,501 --> 01:11:32,060
And he became champion as King Booker.
1417
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,480
And it is as memorable as anything he's
ever done in wrestling.
1418
01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:41,420
The poor kid from Houston, Texas has risen
to the top of the world.
1419
01:11:41,660 --> 01:11:41,960
King Booker!
1420
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:47,540
King Booker!
1421
01:11:52,130 --> 01:11:53,810
Give me some, baby.
1422
01:11:54,190 --> 01:11:55,190
Come on.
1423
01:12:00,430 --> 01:12:01,570
Watch out now.
1424
01:12:01,690 --> 01:12:02,690
Man.
1425
01:12:02,850 --> 01:12:04,010
We know that.
1426
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:08,850
We're the one person we can count on when
all else fails.
1427
01:12:08,990 --> 01:12:10,310
And we really hold that dear.
1428
01:12:12,570 --> 01:12:16,530
For us it's been a team effort since day
one.
1429
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:20,290
Us pulling together and now having twins.
1430
01:12:20,510 --> 01:12:22,310
A boy and a girl eight years old.
1431
01:12:22,530 --> 01:12:26,950
I never imagined in a billion years that
her and I would have kids running around.
1432
01:12:27,310 --> 01:12:28,430
It's pretty, pretty special.
1433
01:12:28,670 --> 01:12:29,710
Good day at school today?
1434
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:30,990
Yeah.
1435
01:12:31,130 --> 01:12:33,530
I've been practicing all day long.
1436
01:12:33,531 --> 01:12:34,610
Yeah baby.
1437
01:12:36,730 --> 01:12:38,070
Not at all.
1438
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:41,998
Charlmel and I, we
tried to have kids for
1439
01:12:41,999 --> 01:12:44,330
three years and things
just didn't work out.
1440
01:12:44,510 --> 01:12:47,230
And then, instead of with one,
God blessed us with two.
1441
01:12:57,420 --> 01:13:00,630
I've watched them grow over
the last eight years and not be
1442
01:13:00,631 --> 01:13:03,760
on the road wrestling on a
weekly basis in a different town.
1443
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,700
That part right there I think has been
more special than anything.
1444
01:13:15,940 --> 01:13:17,660
That was the only way that I didn't get
you.
1445
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,760
Daddy.
1446
01:13:22,620 --> 01:13:24,520
Okay, don't eat it all at one time.
1447
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,760
I'm not.
1448
01:13:26,650 --> 01:13:28,520
I was working on prefixes and suffixes.
1449
01:13:28,780 --> 01:13:30,020
So how much did Tessa save?
1450
01:13:30,220 --> 01:13:31,220
Seven.
1451
01:13:31,450 --> 01:13:32,940
Seven dollars, and how much did...
1452
01:13:32,941 --> 01:13:35,600
Seven dollars and seven dollars,
so fourteen dollars.
1453
01:13:35,820 --> 01:13:38,278
In some aspects, our kids
are polar opposites, but
1454
01:13:38,279 --> 01:13:41,560
they're both extremely
talented and so very, very smart.
1455
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,320
Booker is an amazing dad.
1456
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:46,180
He's so playful with the kids.
1457
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,560
Come on!
1458
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:57,610
My son Kendrick is now really,
really into wrestling.
1459
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,350
I got him now, baby.
1460
01:13:59,650 --> 01:14:03,170
A lot of times I catch just spontaneous
moments between the two of them.
1461
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:04,270
Hey, come on.
1462
01:14:05,970 --> 01:14:07,270
Oh, my God.
1463
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:11,830
I'm very fortunate for the way our kids
are growing up, and we're just afforded
1464
01:14:11,831 --> 01:14:15,970
this family that Booker, unfortunately,
didn't have when he was growing up.
1465
01:14:16,090 --> 01:14:16,610
You got it!
1466
01:14:17,070 --> 01:14:17,550
Yes!
1467
01:14:17,710 --> 01:14:18,190
Yes!
1468
01:14:18,430 --> 01:14:18,790
Yes!
1469
01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:19,710
Yes!
1470
01:14:19,711 --> 01:14:20,190
Yes!
1471
01:14:20,670 --> 01:14:21,670
Yes!
1472
01:14:21,870 --> 01:14:23,150
Of course, I'm not the only one.
1473
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:24,610
Booker cooks really well.
1474
01:14:25,050 --> 01:14:26,290
He can cook better than me.
1475
01:14:26,330 --> 01:14:27,810
That's the only time I'll admit that.
1476
01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:29,490
So I'll tell you what I can do.
1477
01:14:29,550 --> 01:14:31,650
I can turn the oven on for the french
fries.
1478
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:36,990
I get anxiety maybe three days before I
have to leave on a one-day trip.
1479
01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:41,310
I literally, I'll be sitting here,
and I go, man, I can't wait to get back.
1480
01:14:41,690 --> 01:14:43,230
And he hasn't even left yet.
1481
01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:44,350
Yeah.
1482
01:14:45,250 --> 01:14:45,930
Every time.
1483
01:14:46,110 --> 01:14:47,970
Because I do love being a dad.
1484
01:14:48,670 --> 01:14:50,350
I do love being at home.
1485
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:52,810
That's what's cool about, you know,
this stage of life.
1486
01:14:52,811 --> 01:14:55,870
And I can honestly say, you know,
it's the best stage.
1487
01:14:56,250 --> 01:15:02,570
I do want the memories that my son and my
daughter have of their dad is something
1488
01:15:02,571 --> 01:15:05,150
that's going to catapult them throughout
life.
1489
01:15:05,410 --> 01:15:08,210
They're going to know exactly what it
means to be a dad.
1490
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:10,670
They're going to know exactly what it
means to be a mom.
1491
01:15:10,910 --> 01:15:14,710
And that right there, at the end of the
day, you know, we've done our job.
1492
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,280
Look at all that gold.
1493
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,900
Congratulations, sir, last night,
part of Harlem.
1494
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,560
If you know Booker, I've never seen the
guy in a bad mood.
1495
01:15:37,420 --> 01:15:39,120
That felt good right there.
1496
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,340
Sports entertainment is in his blood.
1497
01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:45,540
Coming to the final chapter of
WrestleMania.
1498
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,533
To see the guy that I
first met in the 90s and to
1499
01:15:50,534 --> 01:15:54,161
know Booker now, his
legacy just continues to grow.
1500
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:58,980
Because he's one of the guys that wants to
give back, that is giving back.
1501
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,036
And I understand exactly what you're
talking about.
1502
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:04,300
People will eat you all week thinking
about that.
1503
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,060
I swear.
1504
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:06,660
I appreciate the words of wisdom.
1505
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:09,920
Stay up.
1506
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,420
I love being around the events.
1507
01:16:12,460 --> 01:16:13,460
To be a mentor.
1508
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,000
Shine some knowledge, you know, let
these guys sit under the learning tree.
1509
01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:21,680
An African-American kid coming up,
you know, wanting to do what you were
1510
01:16:21,681 --> 01:16:25,920
doing, it was always a sense of motivation,
so I'm just trying to pay it forward.
1511
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,280
You got to be champion in the ring as well
as out of the ring, all the time.
1512
01:16:29,340 --> 01:16:31,296
It doesn't cost you anything to be nice to
people, man.
1513
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,400
It'll take you so far in life,
so definitely, man.
1514
01:16:33,401 --> 01:16:35,000
Just keep doing what you do, bro.
1515
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,200
I love the business.
1516
01:16:36,460 --> 01:16:38,680
The business has given me so much.
1517
01:16:47,660 --> 01:16:48,880
It starts right here.
1518
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,020
I had a dream back in 2005.
1519
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,040
I said, one day I'm going to open up my
own wrestling school.
1520
01:16:54,420 --> 01:16:56,500
I'm going to teach kids the proper way.
1521
01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:58,480
Good job, Kelly.
1522
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:59,100
Good job.
1523
01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:00,840
We come here Monday through Friday.
1524
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,980
The gym's open from, you know,
normally around 6 p.m.
1525
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,420
Goes to the last man leaves.
1526
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:06,200
Bang!
1527
01:17:06,340 --> 01:17:07,800
All right, it's got to be that big.
1528
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,600
That's the thinking part, guys.
1529
01:17:09,820 --> 01:17:11,560
We're trying to think storytelling.
1530
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,040
This is my livelihood.
1531
01:17:13,220 --> 01:17:14,060
This is what I do.
1532
01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:16,640
This is my trade, my knowledge.
1533
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,000
It's never going to go away.
1534
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,740
And then, bang!
1535
01:17:19,860 --> 01:17:21,960
I love doing that spot right there.
1536
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,480
Almost more than any spot that I ever did
in professional wrestling.
1537
01:17:26,481 --> 01:17:27,280
I swear to God.
1538
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:30,360
Pop the crowd to where they go,
wow, that was awesome.
1539
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,760
Add a little bit more on it.
1540
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:32,800
It means something.
1541
01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:34,540
Think about the guy in the cheap seats.
1542
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,060
I want my youngsters to be able to create
their own stories.
1543
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,520
I want to be with you, brother.
1544
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,560
Hey, man.
1545
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,680
Thank you.
1546
01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:45,145
That's what it all
started out as, and then it
1547
01:17:45,146 --> 01:17:47,781
manifested into us having
our own wrestling promotion.
1548
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,740
This is really exciting to have a huge
crowd tonight.
1549
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,080
And all of our hard work I know is going
to pay off.
1550
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:55,820
We're going to have a great show.
1551
01:17:55,821 --> 01:17:57,520
Did you hear that crowd behind us?
1552
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,200
Now get ready to have some fun.
1553
01:18:06,860 --> 01:18:11,200
Then our fans coming to see our own
homegrown talent.
1554
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,800
They are the stars of the show.
1555
01:18:15,860 --> 01:18:19,060
We got something here and we can take this
thing to the next level.
1556
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,740
And we're on our way.
1557
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,160
He had all the odds against him.
1558
01:18:34,161 --> 01:18:37,228
If you were to pick out the
kid that was going to end up
1559
01:18:37,229 --> 01:18:41,760
dead by the time he was 30,
you would probably pick Booker T.
1560
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:42,840
Huffman.
1561
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:48,240
He grew up, he experienced life.
1562
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,780
Good, bad, ugly.
1563
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:54,120
Book did what it took.
1564
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,960
He never went and said, well, here's a
shortcut over here I can take.
1565
01:19:00,420 --> 01:19:04,140
And the rewards matched the hard work that
he put in.
1566
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:09,240
He is a real life success story.
1567
01:19:09,500 --> 01:19:10,720
You ain't never coming back.
1568
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,240
You going down for the one, two,
three.
1569
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,500
Because I got all my people standing
behind me 110%.
1570
01:19:16,501 --> 01:19:17,501
Help!
1571
01:19:18,220 --> 01:19:20,693
People thought that he
couldn't do something
1572
01:19:20,694 --> 01:19:22,880
because of either his
race or where he was from.
1573
01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:26,640
Or how he looked or the fact that he
didn't have a formal education.
1574
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,080
That's what drove him.
1575
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:35,740
Booker is just a survivor.
1576
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:38,540
And when you see Booker
T, you take people at
1577
01:19:38,541 --> 01:19:40,600
face value and you believe
in redemption stories.
1578
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,080
Those kids who told me I wasn't going to
be anything.
1579
01:19:43,300 --> 01:19:47,400
And I look back on them now and I say,
how you like me now?
1580
01:19:47,540 --> 01:19:50,140
Guys, all of you are going to get a chance
to meet me and do that.
1581
01:19:50,180 --> 01:19:52,440
Don't let anyone shock you.
1582
01:19:58,340 --> 01:20:00,880
Statistically, he wasn't
supposed to be on that stage at
1583
01:20:00,881 --> 01:20:03,461
Madison Square Garden and
being inducted into the Hall of Fame.
1584
01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:05,580
That made it all the more special.
1585
01:20:05,740 --> 01:20:06,860
Because he made it.
1586
01:20:06,940 --> 01:20:07,940
He made it.
1587
01:20:24,380 --> 01:20:26,380
I always ask God, you know, why me?
1588
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:29,700
I always ask God, you know, why me?
1589
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,460
Thirty years later, it's really,
really hard to explain.
1590
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,275
The safest place that
I could ever be was in
1591
01:20:40,276 --> 01:20:43,321
the middle of the ring
painting my Picasso.
1592
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:49,320
I always wanted to perform at the highest
level and I wanted to be remembered.
1593
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,960
Making people feel a certain way when they
watch me.
1594
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,000
And if you guys, the
fans, are enjoying it and
1595
01:21:10,001 --> 01:21:13,221
having a good time, we're
doing something right.
1596
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,480
That's what it's always been about with
me.
1597
01:21:18,020 --> 01:21:19,960
Now can you dig that?
1598
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,360
Suck it!
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