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Macho man, Randy
Savage, oh yeah!
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Oh yeah!
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Complete mental insanity!
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Everybody when they're
talking about Randy,
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they're never going to
speak in their own voice.
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They're going to
do a Randy voice.
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They're going to do macho
voice every single time.
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I am the lord and
master of the wreck.
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The growl that he would have.
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But I was going to do
something devastating.
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It's more about
quiet than it is loud.
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Cream will rise
to the top for you.
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Dude, it's all in the fingers.
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Look at the words.
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Dance outside, yeah.
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Snap into a Slim Jim.
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Snap into a Slim Jim.
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Oh yeah!
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Oh yeah!
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Oh yeah!
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Ooh!
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Ooh!
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Ooh!
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Ahem.
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You want some water?
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No, no.
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What happened?
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I did my Randy Savage
voice and I choked on it.
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Isn't it great we didn't
wear the same outfit?
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He was a pop culture phenomenon.
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This is unbelievable.
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Randy loved it.
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There was no faking
anything with him.
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He believed everything he did.
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I'll be in the ring till
they throw my withered
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carcass in a bag and
drag me to the dumpster.
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Let me tell you
something, Dingleberry.
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David Perry.
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We have a little
magic in the bottle here.
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The ones that stand the test of
time are the things that are real.
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So long as you both do this.
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Ooh yeah!
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Three minutes of peak time.
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He was a wild man.
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Ooh yeah!
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In this corner, from
Downers Grove,
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Illinois, weighing 225
pounds, Angelo Puffo!
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My father was a wrestler
and he was traveling around.
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Randy was born in Columbus, Ohio,
and I was born in Calgary, Alberta.
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Our kids went
to lots of schools.
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When we finally settled down,
we were in Downers Grove,
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Illinois, and it was nice
for them to have roots.
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His mother, his mother
was from Germany,
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and she was Jewish
when Hitler was in power.
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So his mother had had
an extremely difficult life.
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Randy was really something.
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He was so different.
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The first complaint we got, his teacher
that he had for the fourth grade said,
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he can't sit still a minute.
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He sees a piece of
paper on the floor, 10 feet
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away, and he has to
get up and pick it up.
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The earliest memory of my
brother, he's like having two fathers.
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He gave me a lot of
instructions, let's put it that way.
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If he felt I wasn't giving my maximum
effort, is that the best you can do?
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When he was in high school, we
had a lot of kids that were being bullied.
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He and his friend, they used to escort the
kids that were being bullied from class to
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class, so they
wouldn't get picked on.
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He used to say, you want
to pick on this kid now?
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Always for the underdog.
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He was so busy with his sports,
because he played basketball, football,
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and baseball.
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He never dated, but
all the girls liked him.
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He didn't have time to date.
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He had homework.
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He had to get asleep.
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He had to get up
early to practice.
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It was always something to
practice, practice, practice.
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He moved to Tampa, Florida in
1971 to about 75 to play baseball.
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Apparently he was
very successful.
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He was also a baseball player because he
had made it to the minor leagues with the
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White Sox, the Reds,
and the St. Louis Cardinals.
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Professional baseball
was the first endeavor
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that I encountered,
and I did it rather well.
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I did it rather well, I
have to admit myself.
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I started out in 1971, St.
Louis Cardinals, minor leagues.
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He was a catcher, and then he had an
accident at home plate with a collision,
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and he separated his shoulder.
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And then he did the impossible.
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He learned to throw left-handed.
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And he signed as a left-handed first
baseman with the Chicago White Sox.
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But what I didn't do was I was a
switch hitter and a switch thrower.
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That means I could hit and throw
with both arms, which no other wrestler,
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no other baseball player, no other
hockey player, no other football player,
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no other nothing could do with
an athletic background like that.
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Yeah.
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If it's even true, I couldn't imagine
what he had to do to make that work.
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I mean, you just have to
be some kind of blessed
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super freak athlete for
that even to be an option.
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He made the first cut, the second
cut, third cut, and then they cut him.
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He was a right-handed thrower, and
then he learned to throw left-handed.
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So they said he looked funny, and
they couldn't put him on the White Sox.
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It broke his heart when
he was no longer involved.
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He threw away his bats.
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He broke them.
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He said, they're fantastic.
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I'm finished with me.
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I'm finished with them.
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He asked his dad, how do
you get to the top in wrestling?
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That was the beginning.
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Randy never spoke
about baseball anymore.
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He was always wrestling.
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I 100% think that all
greatness comes from failure.
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And I think all greatness comes from
being overlooked, for doing it wrong.
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Him not looking
good throwing that ball
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probably affected how
he performed in the ring.
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So now he goes to his dad's business,
the thing he grew up around, the thing
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that he knows, and he's passionate
about, and he makes it look great.
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In 1979, we got a
family business started.
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The ICW, International
Championship Wrestling.
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The inevitable, Randy
Macho Man Savage.
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Welcome back, wrestling fans.
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We take you now to the Capital
Plaza Sports Center in Frankfurt.
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Macho Man Randy Savage.
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My brother was gung-ho onto it.
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One reversal by the Macho Man.
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John King takes it down.
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Shoulders down.
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He had those feet
hooked over his shoulders.
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The only thing that comes with a
second-generation wrestler is falling into
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your father's footsteps,
and you got to toe the line.
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Angelo was a tough guy,
so Randy had to deal with
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a lot, especially when
he made the transition.
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In the 80s and in
the 70s, there were
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territories, and every
area had its own promoter.
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Mid-South, Louisiana,
Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia.
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There were all these different fiefdoms of
promotions that promoted their unique area.
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The first time I met Randy Macho
Man Savage was almost 40 years ago.
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He was running a little outlaw promotion,
independent promotion up around Kentucky
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area, and they were doing the invasion
on Memphis Wrestling, where I was from.
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We started in Lexington, Kentucky,
and we spread out in every direction.
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We considered it our town.
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And all of a sudden, the Pafos opened
up their own local wrestling promotion.
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Randy Savage has to beat
both these men in 10 minutes.
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The first time they tried to run their
shows, they didn't draw very many people.
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So I think that's why they turned
their formula around and said, look,
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if we're going to draw money, we've
got to challenge the other company.
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You know, our
company against them.
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Our boss told us, whatever we do,
don't ever say anything on our live TV
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show about them, because
sooner or later, if you don't
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talk about your opponent,
they're going to go away.
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Jerry Lawler's dead.
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He's dead, man.
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He ain't healthy, man.
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He's in his grave somewhere.
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Randy would come on
TV and challenge me.
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Say, Jerry Lawler, you know, this
week, when I get you down in that arena,
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you know, I will beat your
brains out if you show up.
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I'm Macho Man Randy Savage,
and I ain't been under no longer, no.
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Four years, man!
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Four years!
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And we felt like they were, you know,
almost false advertising to their audience.
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You know, they're building up a match
between me and Randy Savage that we know
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is never going to take place because
we don't have anything to do with him.
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Put it down.
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It escalated into what we
felt like was a gang war.
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I mean, people started
carrying guns on the trips.
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You know, that's how scary
this thing got at one point.
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Because the Pappos were known
then around the territory as being nuts.
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But finally, I think what
really brought this thing to
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a head was the fact that
the Pappos ran out of money.
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I was at Jerry Lawler's
house one night.
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So he sent me this letter
that Randy had sent to
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him saying, look, we're
leaving the territory.
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Everything that we
said, we apologize for.
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Hopefully one day
we can work together.
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I said, what a home run.
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That's going to be
a complete sellout.
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King and the Macho Man.
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There's been a lot of
talk about this meeting.
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This is something that, boy,
had been talked about for years.
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Randy Savage against
Jerry the King Lawler.
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And completely sold out.
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Randy caused quite a stir when he
joined up with Memphis Wrestling.
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I mean, people knew he was
going to be a very big deal.
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My mother thought of Macho Man, but
the song by the YMCA Village People,
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the song Macho Man was first.
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Where did the name
Savage come from?
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Well, I think he earned it.
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And the prophet told me, he says, better
to be rich and dead than poor and alive.
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Never ever in his life
came to me for any advice.
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If there was advice, he would give me
advice, but he wouldn't ask for advice.
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And then he
absolutely floored me.
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And he said, Lanny, I need help.
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When you see some people that go up there
and say that the Macho Man can be beat,
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those are 10,000
people telling 10,000 lies.
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I said, you've changed
your name to Savage.
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You've got hair like a savage.
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You wrestle like a savage.
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Who is the best Savage-type
interview that you've ever seen?
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Let's copy him.
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And he says, OK.
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How about Amparo Firpo?
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He has done it.
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Amparo Firpo, the
wild bull of the Pampas.
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Oh, yeah!
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And he goes, ooh, yeah.
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And I won.
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By George, I think he's got it.
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The manager came up to me and he says,
hey, you don't play baseball no more, man.
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You're fired.
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Yeah, they do that.
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When you're not good
enough or they think that
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you're not good enough,
they get you out of there.
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They take your uniform
out of your locker.
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I promise you.
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I never heard that voice again.
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His other voice.
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I got my head
together later that night.
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I stared at a candle and I
said, Randy Savage, you
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are going to be the greatest
at something someday.
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Yeah.
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Fans are going wild.
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Hulk Hogan was larger than life.
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He was literally like
a real-life superhero.
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And WWE needed a
real-life supervillain.
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You want to look for
unique personalities.
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And unique personas.
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Or you see something and someone you can
then take that and apply a new concept to.
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In those days, all
these little fiefdoms, all
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these little territories
had very rich characters.
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And so the question is
whether or not they wanted
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to come to work at WWE
or stay where they were.
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When the WWE began its national
expansion, to come on board
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to the WWE meant now you're
exposed to the entire country.
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Now you're going nationwide.
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It was national exposure
and exposure that a
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lot of the talent had
never experienced before.
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Ladies and gentlemen, you're
going to meet without a doubt one
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of the fastest rising stars in
the World Wrestling Federation.
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A man who is really
making a reputation for
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himself almost overnight
as a matter of fact.
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Would you please welcome
Randy the Macho Man Savage.
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I think Randy left Memphis probably
in hindsight just at the right time.
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Somebody said something
about Hulkamania, yeah.
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Somebody said something about Hulkamania
and I answered it with Macho Madness, yeah.
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So I'm feeling real, real good and I
will be the next... Macho Madness.
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This contest is
scheduled for one fall.
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The Macho Man, Randy
Savage, who is quite a competitor
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making his World
Wrestling Federation debut.
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The top wrestlers that
had only been seen in these
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local markets, they wanted
to be seen nationwide.
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They wanted to
be worldwide stars.
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He's a very good wrestler,
but he's a very mean
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individual, but he
certainly has been a winner.
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That's what happened with Randy.
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He wanted to be seen
on the biggest stage.
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Macho Man, Randy Savage.
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Ooh, another one.
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I think these managers are out here
all to take a look at Randy Savage.
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I think so.
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The Macho Man congratulated
by Bobby the Brain Heenan.
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Here by Freddie Blassie, Jimmy
Hart, Mr. Fuji with a handshake.
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My goodness, I can't
believe what I'm seeing.
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Here is your winner,
Randy Macho Man Savage.
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When I first met
him, I'm going, hmm.
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He's small compared to the
size of our performers at that time.
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I think Randy was very
subconscious about being smaller.
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Randy wasn't the
biggest in size and stature.
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However, Randy made up for the
size differential with his intensity.
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It's all over.
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It is all over.
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Here is the World
Wrestling Federation.
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Look at this maneuver.
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Wow.
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At that point, managers
were very, very important.
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Everyone was sitting
around waiting to find
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out who would manage
this new heralded talent.
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He has invited all of the managers
who were bidding for his services.
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He has invited...
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They had Bobby Heenan
come out and go, Randy, let
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me tell you why the Brain
should be your manager.
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Then Jimmy Hart came out, hey, let
me tell you why you should be a manager.
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Macho Madness is
at this peak right now.
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And we've got to know who
the manager is going to be.
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And here she comes.
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Oh, my goodness.
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We're going to have
to find out a lot more.
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Welcome to another sensational
hour of international all-star wrestling.
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I'm your hostess, Liz Hewlett.
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You know what?
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Liz is the love of Randy's life.
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And we happen to be
around when they first met.
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I mean, you know, they
met down in our territory.
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Lexington, Kentucky, on Richmond Road,
had a gym called the Cente Sports Center.
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Elizabeth was the first
person you saw in the morning.
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And she would hand you the
towel and the key to the locker room.
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And that's how
Randy met Elizabeth.
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They were married on
December 31, 1984, approximately
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six months before
Randy went to the WWE.
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The poem for us all.
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Part of Randy's deal was he was
going to bring his brother, Lanny Poffo,
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later on became the genius.
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But Randy also wanted his wife,
Elizabeth, to have a role in the company.
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His legend has it that
Randy originally wanted
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Liz to do some
broadcasting work for WWE.
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And then Vince took a look at her and said,
No, you're not going to be a commentator.
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It's a waste.
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And so she became the manager.
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What a beautiful woman.
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My goodness.
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The smile.
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It was kind of the prequel.
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Of all these reality shows.
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Randy Savage selecting
Miss Elizabeth to be his
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manager and giving
her that proverbial rose.
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Her being in his corner, I
think it was revolutionary.
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The Bachelor, The Bachelorette.
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Randy was one of the very
first real scenarios of love on TV.
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People could just kind
of pick up on the energy of
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that realness that was
actually happening in real life.
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It was a unique pairing because
she carried herself so beautifully.
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And she had an
elegance about her.
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It was kind of like this Beauty
and the Beast sort of dynamic.
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That's what made
Macho Man, Macho Man.
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You know, you get
this queen, man.
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You know, everybody
wants the queen.
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I don't know what in the world.
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We're going to have to find
out a lot more about this lady.
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She's not a Macho
Man to find a break.
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At ringside, he would sort of give her a
look sometimes that's like, You better.
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Or there was an inherent threat to the
relationship of Savage and Elizabeth.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I assume that part was him
hamming up the character.
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But it's still
uncomfortable to see now.
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He developed that persona.
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But he started using that
personality in his real life.
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Randy was so protective of Liz.
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He started bringing
her to the matches
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before he actually got
her into the business.
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And he would put her
in his dressing room.
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And literally locked the door
when he wasn't in there with her.
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So that she couldn't come
out and nobody could go in.
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It was almost like a
way to dominate her.
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Once again, they did not
treat Elizabeth very well.
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The way he interacted with her.
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And you know, he put the voice.
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Oh yeah, don't look at my wife when she
walks through the dressing room, brother.
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I was watching him.
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It was like, okay, I get it.
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You know, he's the dominating
personality in this relationship.
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The right chance in beating him.
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Randy made it clear.
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He made it clear to everyone.
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Miss Elizabeth
was his and his only.
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He'd jump out of the ring
and take Miss Elizabeth
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and move her to the
other side of the ring.
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And tell her, you're safer here.
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You don't know if it
was a controlling factor.
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Or if it was a sincere,
heartfelt protection
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that he wanted
for Miss Elizabeth.
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He believed in his gimmick.
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He lived his gimmick 100%.
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And he became the Macho Man.
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Even when Randy popped over.
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And his treatment of Elizabeth.
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You have to believe it.
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You have to actually believe it.
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And feel it.
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And live it.
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If you don't do that,
you're not going to connect.
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Randy lived it.
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And he's ready.
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Oh, look at that.
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Give me a break.
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What do you call that, Jess?
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I think the first thing that I
perceived was obsession.
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Oh, this guy's...
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This is a lot.
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I think little kids were like,
stop being mean to Elizabeth.
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00:19:00,861 --> 00:19:01,760
We liked her.
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00:19:01,820 --> 00:19:04,740
She was like our nice second
grade teacher that was beautiful.
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And we're like, leave
her alone, Randy.
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You're mean.
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But it's so good.
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00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:10,100
It was such good storytelling.
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00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,120
Randy Savage had this
beautiful woman that he loved.
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00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,760
But no one was
going to talk to her.
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And she better know her place.
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00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,300
Elizabeth, I've got to
compliment you on that.
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00:19:19,301 --> 00:19:21,100
Just outstanding jewelry.
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00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,420
That is very, very attractive
on a very attractive lady.
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00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,560
Thank you very much.
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Wait a minute.
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00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,296
I didn't tell you
to talk, did I?
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00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,496
Did I tell you to say anything?
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00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,880
No, I told you to say nothing.
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00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:30,620
Didn't I tell you that?
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What a dick.
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00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,780
I want to watch
this guy get beat up.
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00:19:39,020 --> 00:19:40,040
Tampa's a great town.
401
00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:40,680
It really is.
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00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,920
It's kind of a white
trash version of Miami.
403
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,920
Tampa's known for strip joints, pimps,
shock jocks, sex tapes, macho, Hogan.
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00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,080
Stuff like that.
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00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,120
Great stuff.
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00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:55,300
This is still the
hotbed of wrestling.
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00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,920
Everybody from John Cena to
the Big Show to Edge and Christian.
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00:19:59,921 --> 00:20:00,620
Roman Reigns.
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00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:01,900
Everybody lives here in Tampa.
410
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,920
It actually started
during the 70s.
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00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:05,945
When I first went up to
Minneapolis and New York,
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00:20:05,946 --> 00:20:07,760
I started bringing some
guys down that were single.
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00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:10,176
And the next thing you know,
we had a whole crew here, man.
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00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,200
It was crazy.
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00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,460
And Randy got
the job in the WWE.
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00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,680
And I got Nazeer.
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00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,780
I got him and Liz to come down.
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00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,820
Randy and Elizabeth were
just so much fun to be around.
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Just normal people.
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00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:24,220
Nice, really kind,
normal people.
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00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,804
The relationship with
myself and my wife
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00:20:28,816 --> 00:20:31,600
and Randy and Liz,
we hung out all the time.
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00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:35,120
Oh yeah, this is unbelievable.
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They lived right down
the beach from us.
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00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:40,175
So every day when we
were home, we were all
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00:20:40,176 --> 00:20:42,820
together on my boat or
at the pool or at the beach.
427
00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:44,380
We hung out with
them all the time.
428
00:20:44,725 --> 00:20:45,740
Therein lies the problem.
429
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,060
Hey, Hulkster, what's
the deal, brother?
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00:20:48,140 --> 00:20:48,820
Talk to me.
431
00:20:48,940 --> 00:20:51,093
It's not like you to leave
me hanging and just
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00:20:51,094 --> 00:20:53,320
checking out the babes
and just leaving me out there.
433
00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:56,200
We need to have a little talk,
brother, about who cut out on who.
434
00:20:56,420 --> 00:20:57,740
All right, let's
do it right now.
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00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,440
Come on.
436
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,480
All right.
437
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,040
Hey, maybe they're gonna fight.
438
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,220
Randy and Miss Elizabeth threw a party
and we were so excited to go because my
439
00:21:06,221 --> 00:21:08,221
sisters and I all wanted
to be like Miss Elizabeth.
440
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:12,060
My dad and Randy were really close
friends, but for us, we were still in awe
441
00:21:12,061 --> 00:21:14,981
of Miss Elizabeth because she was the
woman that we saw on our TV screens.
442
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:18,880
As kids, even though our dad was
a WWE superstar, we were still fans.
443
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,980
They had a beautiful home and
they had really beautiful artwork.
444
00:21:21,981 --> 00:21:24,651
It wasn't a mansion, but
it was just this beautiful
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00:21:24,652 --> 00:21:27,420
home that was so well
taken care of and so pristine.
446
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:28,836
Their house was immaculate.
447
00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:30,742
I felt like when we walked
in, we had to take our
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00:21:30,743 --> 00:21:32,680
shoes off right away
and put on little booties.
449
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,500
So I felt like he
may have had OCD.
450
00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:42,240
When I met Randy, he was
the macho man, Randy Savage.
451
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,480
Oh, yeah.
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24 hours a day.
453
00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:46,640
But what he didn't
have was the look.
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00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,880
He needed to look like a star.
455
00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,869
I said, bro, I got a guy named
Michael Braun that when I
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00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:51,960
played in a rock and roll
band for a while, he was a star.
457
00:21:51,961 --> 00:21:52,360
He was a star for 10 years.
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00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,240
He made all of
Hendrix's clothes.
459
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,200
He made all the stuff
for the guys in my band.
460
00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:58,560
Randy calls me on the phone.
461
00:21:58,780 --> 00:22:00,940
The Hulkster told me, you
can make me some clothes.
462
00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:02,920
I'm going, who's this?
463
00:22:03,650 --> 00:22:09,500
He comes with Miss Elizabeth and he brings
me shorts that have three stars in the
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front and maybe two
inch letter across his tush.
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00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,100
It says Macho Man.
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00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:19,400
And I say, dude,
I need real estate.
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00:22:19,401 --> 00:22:22,040
I need from the floor
to past your head.
468
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:24,780
He says, you can do
whatever you want.
469
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,420
This is the kiss of death.
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00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,440
I make him five outfits out of
spandex, but full length pants and shirts.
471
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080
And maybe there's a
little fringe here and there.
472
00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:36,180
We're just starting out.
473
00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:40,700
In the 80s, there
was a series of pimps.
474
00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:47,061
One pimp would bring another pimp often to
us and they'd say about me, he's all right.
475
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,380
Yes, there was some inspiration.
476
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,260
There was some inspiration
from them for Macho Man's clothes.
477
00:22:52,540 --> 00:22:54,600
The costumes fit, man.
478
00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,920
The towels, everything just went down
right where it was supposed to go to.
479
00:22:58,060 --> 00:22:59,060
You know what I'm saying?
480
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:04,930
Damn, there was a pimp outfit Randy
was wearing, man, when you think about it.
481
00:23:05,070 --> 00:23:06,070
Like, duh.
482
00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:07,770
Randy pimping Savage.
483
00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:18,763
The guy that dressed the
pimps in the 70s ended up being
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00:23:18,764 --> 00:23:23,570
one of the most influential
costumers in all of wrestling.
485
00:23:24,430 --> 00:23:25,430
That's how Tampa rolls.
486
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:29,810
A real funny story is he wanted
a really fast car, you know.
487
00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:31,310
A buddy of mine had one.
488
00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:33,650
So Randy went out there,
looked at the car, bought it.
489
00:23:34,130 --> 00:23:36,050
Had the car sent
from California.
490
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:38,370
He called me, we'll
send the damn car back.
491
00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:40,410
I said, what's
wrong with the car?
492
00:23:40,690 --> 00:23:43,410
He goes, my hat box
won't fit up front in the trunk.
493
00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:46,166
I guess the only place there was
a trunk was in the front of a Ferrari.
494
00:23:46,190 --> 00:23:49,310
So he put the hat box in and he wouldn't
close, so we had to send the car back.
495
00:23:49,890 --> 00:23:50,890
Hats are doing good.
496
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,410
Now we got hats, we got glasses.
497
00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:58,502
I'm painting on his shirt,
on the hat, on the sleeves,
498
00:23:58,503 --> 00:24:02,410
on the pants, on the back
of the jacket, Macho Man.
499
00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:04,210
Over and over again.
500
00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:06,110
How many times can
you write Macho Man?
501
00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:08,310
How many times can
you paint the name?
502
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:10,110
How many fonts can you use?
503
00:24:10,550 --> 00:24:12,390
Nobody can wear Randy's clothes.
504
00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:12,910
Nobody.
505
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:14,190
They all look silly.
506
00:24:14,410 --> 00:24:18,410
There's something about
this person fits these clothes.
507
00:24:19,330 --> 00:24:21,850
He did spend
money on his outfits.
508
00:24:21,851 --> 00:24:24,490
And they were lavish and
extraordinary and colorful.
509
00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:28,270
Randy spent a lot of money on the
perception of who the Macho Man was.
510
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:29,690
That was all out of his pocket.
511
00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:35,150
Michael Braun made a
fortune making Randy's clothes.
512
00:24:38,030 --> 00:24:41,070
I knew he wouldn't buy you a cup
of coffee, but that's another subject.
513
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:42,870
Randy saved his money.
514
00:24:42,930 --> 00:24:43,930
He was smart.
515
00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:47,390
That's a nice way of saying
he was cheap, but it's okay.
516
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:50,210
Randy was making a lot of money.
517
00:24:50,211 --> 00:24:53,850
Randy probably held on to
every nickel that he ever earned.
518
00:24:54,610 --> 00:24:57,570
His mom and dad didn't
always have it easy.
519
00:24:57,750 --> 00:25:01,750
And his father had to work really
hard for every penny that he made.
520
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:07,470
So Randy's father, Angelo, instilled
in both kids, save your money.
521
00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:12,910
He would drive from Memphis all the way to
Louisville, Kentucky, wrestle in a match,
522
00:25:13,070 --> 00:25:14,910
and then he
wouldn't get a hotel.
523
00:25:15,070 --> 00:25:16,070
He'd sleep in his car.
524
00:25:17,910 --> 00:25:20,570
It was a lot of fun having
him with us on the road.
525
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:24,050
I don't remember him
ever buying anything.
526
00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:25,170
I'll say that.
527
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Pomp and circumstance.
528
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,640
What a song.
529
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,760
All these other wrestlers
had, I'm gonna beat you up.
530
00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:45,060
And that like crunchy,
like 80s, 90s guitar.
531
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:47,320
I'm a man, I'm a man.
532
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,860
And then you just have this classic,
elegant, pomp and circumstance.
533
00:25:50,861 --> 00:25:53,300
And the second it hits...
534
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,980
Macho man Randy Savage is the
definition of pomp and circumstance.
535
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,180
I think that that was the
perfect music for Randy.
536
00:26:06,380 --> 00:26:11,180
What I think made Randy such a
good wrestler is the combination of his
537
00:26:11,181 --> 00:26:15,240
athletic ability and his personality
and his work ethic in the ring.
538
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:19,240
Man, he was just on the
cutting edge with all of it.
539
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Always.
540
00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:24,180
He was extremely professional
when it came to his preparation.
541
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,040
He spent more time on the
preparation than some other people did.
542
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,200
A lot more than I did.
543
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,120
And it showed in
his work product.
544
00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:33,340
Guaranteed.
545
00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:34,460
One, two, three.
546
00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:36,436
You know, my phone
would ring at 3 or 4 o 'clock.
547
00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:39,660
Hey, I got an idea about that
finish at Madison Square Garden.
548
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000
I'm going, Randy, it's 4
o'clock in the morning, brother.
549
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,320
What time is it?
550
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,680
You should care as much as I do.
551
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,200
I'm like, okay, I
care, Randy, I care.
552
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,080
It was always just
banging heads with him.
553
00:26:48,081 --> 00:26:50,300
He'd go instead of the
big foot for it rather than
554
00:26:50,301 --> 00:26:52,180
how about just elbow
me back over the top rope.
555
00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:54,156
I was like, okay, Randy,
fine, talk in the morning.
556
00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:57,320
But he was always on,
man, and he was a wild man.
557
00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:00,980
I think he would really
overthink it sometimes.
558
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:02,940
He was too calculated, you know.
559
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:04,920
Sometimes you
gotta like free form.
560
00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:06,715
In the ring, you hear what
the crowd wants instead
561
00:27:06,716 --> 00:27:08,060
of going to the corner
and hitting the guy.
562
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,080
You may want to grab his arm and
bite his thumb off or something, you know.
563
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,640
Cut out the costumes, cut out
the crazy voice, cut out everything.
564
00:27:15,641 --> 00:27:20,240
At the core is a man that
knew what it took to be great.
565
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,320
He knew the work.
566
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,700
He wasn't afraid of the work.
567
00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:25,340
He put in the time
and he put in the effort.
568
00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:28,605
And I think that's a beautiful
thing that anyone in any
569
00:27:28,606 --> 00:27:31,340
field could look at and
realize that's what it takes.
570
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,960
And
571
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:42,246
then you'll have your
WrestleMania III moment with Sting.
572
00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:44,030
Heavyweight champion
along with Elizabeth.
573
00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:48,850
Along with the man who will be
in his corner, George DeAnimus.
574
00:27:48,970 --> 00:27:50,510
Nice block by the driver.
575
00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:59,670
This is the WrestleMania Report.
576
00:27:59,870 --> 00:28:00,870
I'm Gene Okerlund.
577
00:28:01,170 --> 00:28:01,630
Surprise!
578
00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:05,430
Yes, yet even another match has
been added to WrestleMania III.
579
00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:07,730
Well, this was going to
be the biggest thing ever.
580
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:08,950
At least that's what I said.
581
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:11,890
It actually became the biggest
thing ever for a long time.
582
00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:14,348
We could hear the
numbers coming in from the
583
00:28:14,349 --> 00:28:16,390
number of ticket sales
at the Silverdome.
584
00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:21,830
You know, 50,000, 60,000,
70,000, and it finally got up to 93,000.
585
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,370
Heavyweight champion Hulk Hogan.
586
00:28:23,371 --> 00:28:27,159
Hulk Hogan and Andre the
Giant, the two biggest icons
587
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,550
in our business at the
time, were the main event.
588
00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:33,310
We want a match
to steal the show.
589
00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:36,830
Randy and Ricky were not
trying to upstage my main event.
590
00:28:37,495 --> 00:28:40,230
They didn't go out there and go, okay,
we want to steal the show from Andre.
591
00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:42,230
We want to steal the
show from Hulk Hogan.
592
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:43,330
They didn't do that, man.
593
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:46,010
Our goal was to have
the match of the night.
594
00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:48,950
And to do that, we had to
upstage Hogan and Andre.
595
00:28:50,290 --> 00:28:51,290
Welcome to
596
00:28:56,380 --> 00:28:57,840
WrestleMania III!
597
00:28:58,980 --> 00:29:00,260
March 29th, 1987.
598
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:03,060
This is going to be the biggest
moment in wrestling history.
599
00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:09,060
I knew that when I watched the whole show,
as good as Hogan-Andre was, and it was
600
00:29:09,061 --> 00:29:13,280
damn good, it didn't hold a candle to
Randy Savage and Ricky Steamboat.
601
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,400
Obviously, it turns out that one of the
ways that they were able to do that is
602
00:29:17,401 --> 00:29:21,520
because Randy Savage was obsessive about
that match and worked out every single
603
00:29:21,521 --> 00:29:25,696
detail repeatedly on notepads
with Ricky Steamboat until
604
00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:28,381
they got exactly the match
that they needed to have.
605
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:30,460
We had these
yellow legal tablets.
606
00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:34,700
We got into two and a half
pages of these long legal pads.
607
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,080
We were getting
up to like 160 steps.
608
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,770
We started quizzing each
other, and I would say,
609
00:29:41,771 --> 00:29:44,180
Randy, step number
37 is this, this, and this.
610
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:45,900
Tell me the rest of the match.
611
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,720
Number 38 is this, number 39 is
this, number 40 is this, this, that.
612
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:54,822
We took every opportunity
and every advantage going over
613
00:29:54,823 --> 00:29:57,401
the match just to make sure
they were all on the same page.
614
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:02,360
You got the ultimate good
guy in Ricky Steamboat.
615
00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:03,960
He's impossible to dislike.
616
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:10,860
Then you got Randy, Macho Man Savage,
who, Savage being, you know, the bad guy.
617
00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:13,040
It was just a
perfect storm ahead.
618
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,880
Everything you needed
for the perfect story.
619
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:19,300
And the story that they told
leading up to it had layers.
620
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720
I will not only embarrass you,
not only pin you with the one,
621
00:30:22,780 --> 00:30:25,380
two, three count, but I'm gonna
put you out of wrestling for good.
622
00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:27,720
They never have
a televised match.
623
00:30:27,721 --> 00:30:30,220
Until WrestleMania III.
624
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,520
The crowd is so big.
625
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:37,080
It's majestic.
626
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,200
It's like this gigantic
sea of people.
627
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,040
The noise of 97,000 people.
628
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,960
Your body would almost vibrate from
when you came down the ramp, through the
629
00:30:45,961 --> 00:30:48,120
curtain, and you're out
there for the first time.
630
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,680
My stress level rose because of trying
to remember 160-some different steps.
631
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:07,090
One, two, three, four,
632
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:20,270
five, six, seven, eight.
633
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:45,340
It's never as good as when they have
one pure good guy and one evil bad guy.
634
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:48,602
And they're doing things
that are athletic and
635
00:31:48,603 --> 00:31:51,961
excellent and great and
violent with reckless abandon.
636
00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:05,940
159, 160.
637
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:09,140
It is done.
638
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,240
It worked.
639
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,800
It is perfect.
640
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:19,040
To this day, people think it was
like one of the best matches ever.
641
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,340
The goal of a match is to
tell a story within a match.
642
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,280
How can you, with your body and
your face, tell a story to the fans?
643
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:33,800
There was nothing like
the rush from the crowd.
644
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,980
After taking the fans on a ride of 20
false finishes, the sound was deafening.
645
00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:44,160
You see the crowd
jump up and react.
646
00:32:44,420 --> 00:32:45,700
I watched it a thousand times.
647
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,880
I still get the chills.
648
00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:51,180
It's the definition of what the art of
professional wrestling is supposed to be.
649
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360
I'll never forget Savage
when I covered him.
650
00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:57,580
Randy... We got him, Dragon.
651
00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:59,180
We got him.
652
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:03,240
A very despondent leading.
653
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,020
It's a labor of love.
654
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,480
And it's a craft that, when
done at the highest level, is hard.
655
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,638
Savage, even though he
was obsessed with living the
656
00:33:17,639 --> 00:33:19,961
character, didn't seem to
care about wins and losses.
657
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:24,840
I'm going to lose to Steamboat at the
biggest thing in front of 93,000 people?
658
00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:26,300
No problem.
659
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,060
It's going to be awesome.
660
00:33:27,220 --> 00:33:28,580
We're going to
make it incredible.
661
00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:34,400
A truly great wrestler should be
as happy when the third count hits.
662
00:33:34,401 --> 00:33:38,580
If he's on the top or looking
up, it should be the same thing.
663
00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:42,040
If the crowd reacts, you
should be happy either way.
664
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,140
The match actually
ruined his life.
665
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,180
Because he could
never top that night.
666
00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:49,680
He could never top the match.
667
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,500
His standards were too high.
668
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:53,700
After WrestleMania.
669
00:33:53,950 --> 00:33:55,750
That's where it all blew
up, right there, man.
670
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Lightning power of the tornado.
671
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Perfectly ridiculous.
672
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,120
With Mr. Perfect, you
can achieve perfection.
673
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,180
Wrong!
674
00:34:06,181 --> 00:34:09,880
Randy and I, I think we had
300 licenses each at one time.
675
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,380
So Randy was running neck
and neck with my merchandise.
676
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:19,960
Everywhere they booked Randy Savage and
Hulk Hogan, it was always, always sold out.
677
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,540
Everywhere.
678
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,000
We couldn't do anything wrong.
679
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,180
Watch old man Randy Savage!
680
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,620
High in the air!
681
00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:29,720
Hogan wasn't threatened
at all by anybody.
682
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,600
And there was no one around that
could touch Hulk Hogan at the time.
683
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,980
But Randy Savage was...
came close at that time.
684
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:40,780
I feel real strongly about
this man right here, yeah.
685
00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:43,300
This is the man...
686
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,240
who is going to lose to the
macho man, Randy Savage.
687
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,476
Isn't that right, Elizabeth?
688
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:54,020
Randy was a little more indoctrined to
it and knew the lifestyle because of his...
689
00:34:54,021 --> 00:34:55,781
of being the second
generation of his family.
690
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,600
Whereas Terry kind
of stumbled into it.
691
00:34:58,065 --> 00:35:00,860
And I think that maybe Randy
always resented that a little bit.
692
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,760
That Hogan not only stumbled
into it, but also became the biggest.
693
00:35:03,761 --> 00:35:05,300
And outshined him.
694
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:07,580
There was no jealousy
over anything like that.
695
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,660
No problem at all, baby.
696
00:35:10,820 --> 00:35:12,000
No problem at all.
697
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,080
You see my t-shirt?
698
00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:15,860
In a lot of ways.
699
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,520
In a lot of ways.
700
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:20,780
Everybody's gonna be seeing
a Hulk cool Vince McMahon.
701
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,960
I think everyone that has been
or will be ever in the WWE...
702
00:35:24,961 --> 00:35:26,220
will be in Hogan's shadow.
703
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,880
I don't think Randy ever thought
he would overshadow the Hulkster.
704
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,300
Hulk Hogan was gonna
be the unbeatable guy.
705
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:35,900
That's the way it is.
706
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:37,700
Those eyes right there!
707
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:38,900
Those eyes!
708
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,796
You got lust for Elizabeth,
you understand that?
709
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:43,520
You got lust for
Elizabeth right there!
710
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,302
I think Randy Savage doesn't
get nearly enough credit for
711
00:35:46,303 --> 00:35:49,600
how important he was to the
success of the WWE at that time.
712
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,673
Hulk Hogan seems
to be the guy that's like,
713
00:35:51,674 --> 00:35:54,401
there was Hulk Hogan
and there was wrestling.
714
00:36:01,370 --> 00:36:02,770
He was intense.
715
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:07,396
Mix a little intensity
with the right toxins and
716
00:36:07,397 --> 00:36:09,630
the right poisons and
he can get a little crazy.
717
00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:10,710
Get out of the way!
718
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:11,430
No!
719
00:36:11,431 --> 00:36:12,790
Somebody get some help out here!
720
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:17,430
Tonight is the first time that I've
ever been the prize in a match.
721
00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:20,130
If Randy wins, I stay with him.
722
00:36:20,350 --> 00:36:25,010
And if George wins, he gets
the title and he gets to keep me.
723
00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:28,170
Tonight is definitely the
scariest night of my life.
724
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:31,190
When we look back on
Randy Savage's career...
725
00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:34,223
so many of the most
influential matches and
726
00:36:34,224 --> 00:36:36,790
storylines of his career
involve Miss Elizabeth.
727
00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:40,630
So without her being a foil
and a catalyst in his storytelling...
728
00:36:40,631 --> 00:36:42,710
we wouldn't remember
those iconic, epic matches.
729
00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:45,050
He'd grab her and
push her in front of him.
730
00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:46,310
He was the king of that move.
731
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,970
Of grabbing her and
being like, no, no, not today.
732
00:36:49,330 --> 00:36:50,750
You're gonna hit my woman?
733
00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:51,990
And you're like, what a dick!
734
00:36:54,090 --> 00:36:58,570
To use Elizabeth in the
storyline was so easy.
735
00:36:59,190 --> 00:37:01,390
Looking back, we weren't
setting a good example for her.
736
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:05,330
It's not something we do today,
but we learn and we move on.
737
00:37:06,530 --> 00:37:08,290
It's professional
wrestling, man.
738
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:10,390
I call it the theater
of the absurd.
739
00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:14,190
Anytime you cross that line,
that stirs the fan's reaction.
740
00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:17,530
When you stir their reactions,
you start putting asses in seats.
741
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:19,070
And that's what it's all about.
742
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:25,370
She was the first major valet in
wrestling to be kind of part of the story.
743
00:37:25,371 --> 00:37:27,030
Elizabeth has shot everybody.
744
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:31,170
The husband-wife team
working together, I don't
745
00:37:31,171 --> 00:37:33,070
think we really had
anything like that before.
746
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:34,330
So it was unique.
747
00:37:34,990 --> 00:37:38,250
Randy was extremely
possessive with Elizabeth.
748
00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:39,370
That's right, Randy.
749
00:37:39,610 --> 00:37:41,210
Shut up and keep polishing.
750
00:37:41,410 --> 00:37:42,990
If I lose tonight,
it's your fault.
751
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:46,681
If you're given to be a
certain way, and I can take
752
00:37:46,761 --> 00:37:50,090
that and boost it up, then
it becomes larger than life.
753
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:51,190
It worked.
754
00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:52,470
It just worked.
755
00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,070
He's not staying in
the neutral corner.
756
00:37:54,670 --> 00:37:56,390
Miss Elizabeth broke the mold.
757
00:37:58,290 --> 00:38:02,188
You remove Elizabeth from the
equation of Randy Savage, and
758
00:38:02,189 --> 00:38:05,390
he's just a guy that talks weird
and is incredible in the ring.
759
00:38:05,590 --> 00:38:08,510
Miss Elizabeth anchored
Randy Poffo to that character.
760
00:38:09,390 --> 00:38:15,950
I don't think she had any clue about how
talented she was and how beautiful she was.
761
00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:18,370
She didn't have a
healthy body image.
762
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:20,550
Liz struggled with
eating disorders.
763
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:22,270
She struggled with bulimia.
764
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:25,350
So she really struggled
with just self-confidence.
765
00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:31,370
She tried to be what she thought the man
that she was having whatever relationship
766
00:38:31,371 --> 00:38:33,750
at the time with, what
they wanted her to be.
767
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:37,010
So she would get
lost in the relationship.
768
00:38:38,110 --> 00:38:41,440
I was the first one to
push Liz down in a very
769
00:38:41,441 --> 00:38:44,390
physical altercation where
I shoved her sideways.
770
00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:46,310
That was really,
really a big deal.
771
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:52,250
He asked me to come up to his hotel
room, and we went over the pushing.
772
00:38:52,251 --> 00:38:54,050
I was pushing of Liz
for about two hours.
773
00:38:54,425 --> 00:38:56,910
She was falling on the bed
when I was pushing her sideways.
774
00:38:57,270 --> 00:39:01,910
How they got Randy to go for
that or to do that, that's a mystery.
775
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,580
Thirty or thirty-five million
people tuned in to see it.
776
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,600
They came up with
the idea of the slap.
777
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,260
Not me, but that was the
last thing I thought I'd ever do.
778
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,580
I got more heat from the fans for slapping
her than I did for the snake-biting Randy.
779
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,220
The wrestling fans
destroyed my car.
780
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,200
They totally did.
781
00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:34,400
Knocked all the windows out of
it, busted the headlights, taillights.
782
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,640
It's like the thing with
slapping a woman.
783
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:38,600
You don't do that.
784
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,420
That's ingrained in here, man.
785
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:42,800
That's one of the two
top evil things you can do.
786
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,380
Can you imagine somebody
slapping somebody today?
787
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Randy and Liz were
married in real life.
788
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:52,035
However, on camera,
their relationship was never,
789
00:39:52,036 --> 00:39:54,860
it was never exposed, and
it was never talked about.
790
00:39:54,861 --> 00:39:58,480
It was more of an animal
magnetism and attraction.
791
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,300
Randy's character changed.
792
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,896
Randy went from a
very popular character to
793
00:40:03,897 --> 00:40:07,561
just a despised character
in the Macho King.
794
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,260
Savage goes full bad
guy because of jealousy.
795
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,900
A very real reason to turn.
796
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:15,140
Elizabeth is out.
797
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:15,980
Sherry's in.
798
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:21,060
Queen Sherry, what
kind of rules are there?
799
00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:22,860
Not
800
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:28,610
a... She turns on the Macho Man.
801
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:31,970
In the crowd, Elizabeth.
802
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,680
When she came back and
slapped Sherry, come on.
803
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,280
Come on.
804
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Everyone popped.
805
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,720
Everyone went nuts.
806
00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:48,780
I loved it.
807
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,500
Bring us up to date on the travels
of the World Wrestling Federation.
808
00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:57,499
I mean, you could be
in Dallas one night and
809
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,760
Miami the next, and then
up to Chicago the next.
810
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:04,060
And this would just keep right on going,
and the traveling part was the hardest.
811
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:08,520
We were running so
hard in those days, man.
812
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:10,600
We were running seven
days a week, every night.
813
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,620
Our way of dealing
with it wasn't right.
814
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,040
Guys were doing steroids.
815
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:20,920
You guys were doing
a lot of pills, man.
816
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,440
You know, and a lot of pills.
817
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:28,080
Some of us, including myself, did fair
amounts of cocaine just to get going.
818
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,860
Your body needs time to heal.
819
00:41:34,420 --> 00:41:39,800
These guys, their whole empire is
built upon their physique, so to speak,
820
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,360
so I got to think that's
very, very tough on them.
821
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:45,420
I mean, it's a world of action figures,
and when you put yourself out there as
822
00:41:45,421 --> 00:41:49,581
much as wrestlers do, your body ain't
going to keep the body of an action figure.
823
00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:54,400
It's tough enough to do by yourself not
to imagine having your wife there with you
824
00:41:54,401 --> 00:41:58,280
every step of the way with,
you know, sharks tagging behind.
825
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Randy really loved her.
826
00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:02,840
And I know that he wouldn't
have it any other way.
827
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,980
Miss Elizabeth with him.
828
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,020
You know, the business is tough.
829
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,460
It's just the road, and
it's just a tough business.
830
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,520
I don't know of any husband-wife
teams that have done it since.
831
00:42:12,860 --> 00:42:16,040
There's, you know, probably, but there's
probably a reason why that doesn't happen
832
00:42:16,041 --> 00:42:18,161
a lot in wrestling, because
it's just, it'll ruin you.
833
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,900
I guess in hindsight, she just
finally couldn't take it anymore.
834
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,429
Not only sometimes
was Randy overprotective,
835
00:42:25,441 --> 00:42:27,540
he was a little bit
overbearing on Liz.
836
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,800
And I really think that she
just reached her breaking point.
837
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,540
I think he always felt like there was
somebody else in her life besides him.
838
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,320
When there really
wasn't, how could it be?
839
00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:40,816
You're locked in the house,
and you can't go out on the road.
840
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,680
Nobody can touch you.
841
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:42,480
Nobody can see you.
842
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,320
How in the world could she
fall in love with anybody else?
843
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,780
Elizabeth, I love you!
844
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:55,810
You marry me!
845
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:58,190
Oh, yeah!
846
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:07,160
When Randy the Wrestler and Miss Elizabeth
were having a great life on stage,
847
00:43:07,161 --> 00:43:12,420
on TV, they were having a horrible life
in real life, and I think that was a huge,
848
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,400
huge accelerator, so
to speak, of the demise.
849
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,600
Can you imagine that?
850
00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:23,300
Like, if your marriage was seriously
in trouble, and you had to publicly get
851
00:43:23,301 --> 00:43:26,696
married again, so the
world is kind of like, oh,
852
00:43:26,756 --> 00:43:28,680
my God, that's so cool,
you guys are married.
853
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:31,820
It's like, no, no, actually, we were
married, and now we're barely married.
854
00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:37,240
I wonder how much of the worst of him
was brought out by the wrestling villains.
855
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,773
It clearly brought the best
out of him professionally,
856
00:43:42,774 --> 00:43:45,620
but I wonder how much
it cost him personally.
857
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,520
That's terrific.
858
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,480
That's disgusting.
859
00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:57,253
As the orchestra played,
the formal line of eager
860
00:43:57,254 --> 00:44:00,880
guests gave their congratulations
to the happy couple.
861
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:04,458
I remember Randy
coming to me, Liz is very
862
00:44:04,459 --> 00:44:07,000
unhappy with me and
thinks she wants a divorce.
863
00:44:07,001 --> 00:44:09,800
And I said, well, maybe she
just wants a little bit of freedom.
864
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:12,420
But I knew he was really
heartbroken over that, you know?
865
00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:22,350
I don't know if anybody ever looked at the
Randy and his wife's situation and said,
866
00:44:22,450 --> 00:44:24,750
hey, maybe I should
step in and say something.
867
00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:29,290
If you knew Randy, I don't think
that would have set well with him.
868
00:44:29,410 --> 00:44:32,819
I think maybe later on, Hulk
Hogan and the time Hulk's wife
869
00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:36,890
may have crossed that line,
and that didn't go well either.
870
00:44:41,650 --> 00:44:44,530
I didn't realize that
Liz was uneasy.
871
00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:51,700
I just remember Randy
had just bought a boat.
872
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,920
My ex-wife was on the dock, and,
you know, her and Liz were talking.
873
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:58,360
She goes, yeah, well, Terry's going
down to Miami to shoot a movie called Mr.
874
00:44:58,500 --> 00:44:58,760
Nanny.
875
00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:00,224
We'll be down there a
couple of months, and I'll be
876
00:45:00,244 --> 00:45:01,660
there with the kids, and
he's going to be working on it.
877
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:05,840
So if you get bored, come on down and
hang out and help me with the kids, so...
878
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,160
I went down the next
day to Miami, and I was
879
00:45:10,161 --> 00:45:12,300
shooting nights, and I
guess I left work early.
880
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,424
I left work about 5 o'clock,
and when I came in at
881
00:45:14,425 --> 00:45:17,780
6 in the morning, I saw
the red Cadillac out there.
882
00:45:17,860 --> 00:45:19,940
Hmm, that's Liz's car, you know?
883
00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:23,620
I go upstairs, and I
said, where's Liz at?
884
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,860
My ex-wife was still asleep.
885
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:27,236
She goes, oh, she's in
the back room over there.
886
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:29,216
I just kind of peeked in the other
room, and no one was in the bed.
887
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,240
And I went, hmm.
888
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,958
I didn't think nothing
of it, so I went to
889
00:45:32,959 --> 00:45:35,080
sleep and got up,
worked out, did my thing.
890
00:45:35,140 --> 00:45:36,176
The next day, I
went to work again.
891
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,640
At night, I came in, same thing.
892
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:38,300
Nobody in the bed.
893
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,600
I said, okay, here's the deal.
894
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,300
I don't know what's
going on, but if she's not
895
00:45:42,301 --> 00:45:42,300
going to be sleeping, I
don't know what's going on.
896
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,180
She needs to get her stuff out of
here, because I don't want any heat.
897
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,380
And so as things progressed, I saw her
down by the pool, hanging out with a guy
898
00:45:49,381 --> 00:45:53,100
that played tennis, and I was getting
ready to go to work at night, and I came
899
00:45:53,101 --> 00:45:56,360
out of the shower about 6 o'clock, and I
heard the screaming, oh, where is she at?
900
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Where is she at?
901
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:58,320
Do you know where she's at?
902
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,696
And I said, oh,
my God, he's here.
903
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:04,400
So I put a towel on, and I went out in the
living room, and there was Randy standing
904
00:46:04,401 --> 00:46:07,076
there with my ex-wife, pointing his
finger, going, you know where Liz is?
905
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,960
I said, Randy, calm your
you-know-what down, brother.
906
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:11,060
Grabbed the manager.
907
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:12,180
I said, hey, brother.
908
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,200
This is Macho Man.
909
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:13,780
His wife's here.
910
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,520
He doesn't have
a key to her room.
911
00:46:14,540 --> 00:46:15,240
We need a key to her room.
912
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,240
So the manager walked us all the
way around the back of the hotel.
913
00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:22,060
Guy put the key in
the door to open it.
914
00:46:22,061 --> 00:46:22,960
Randy pushed the door open.
915
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:23,620
He goes, hey, Liz.
916
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:24,720
And I took off.
917
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,840
I was gone.
918
00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:27,555
All of a sudden, I get
ready to leave to go to work,
919
00:46:27,556 --> 00:46:29,561
and there's like 20 cop
cars outside the hotel.
920
00:46:31,180 --> 00:46:32,420
I was blamed for that.
921
00:46:32,820 --> 00:46:35,360
The truth is, after the second guy, I
should have called him right away and
922
00:46:35,361 --> 00:46:37,300
said, hey, man, I don't know where
your wife's at, but her car is here.
923
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:37,860
She's not in her room.
924
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,240
I should have
done that, I guess.
925
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:41,640
That's where our relationship
fell apart for about 10 years.
926
00:46:41,641 --> 00:46:44,640
It's just as intense
as the wrestling was.
927
00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:46,740
That's how much he
hated me in real life.
928
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,960
I just figured if I got her out of my
room, I had no idea she didn't call home.
929
00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:54,116
I had no idea that she left
and packed all of her stuff
930
00:46:54,117 --> 00:46:56,501
up and didn't tell him she
was done with the marriage.
931
00:46:56,540 --> 00:46:57,820
I didn't know any of this stuff.
932
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,416
I just thought she
came down to hang out.
933
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,200
She left him and didn't tell us.
934
00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:08,700
Let's just be honest.
935
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,836
The day that Randy died,
he still loved Miss Elizabeth.
936
00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:13,920
Like, I mean, that's
his ultra love in life.
937
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:18,700
And so, as Randy died, as he's losing
her in real life, he has to act like,
938
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:21,580
you know, we're in love,
getting the whole nine yards.
939
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,620
And so, I mean, I can't even
understand how much pain that would be.
940
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,940
That's right the
real deal right here.
941
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,160
I'm the Macho Man, Randy Savage,
and me and Gene Okerlund, I'm gonna be
942
00:47:32,161 --> 00:47:35,160
your co-host, yeah, on
All-American Wrestling.
943
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,160
Do you have any
problem with that?
944
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:38,440
I don't have a problem at all.
945
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:42,280
I don't know why Vince puts people on
commentary other than the fact that he
946
00:47:42,281 --> 00:47:46,600
might have another vision of what
needs to be done for the product.
947
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,060
Vince, I don't think, wanted
him to work anymore.
948
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,901
They wanted to get him out
of the ring and do commentary,
949
00:47:52,902 --> 00:47:55,001
and Randy always felt like
he had some matches left.
950
00:47:55,195 --> 00:48:00,560
The reason that I argue that Randy Savage
is probably the greatest who ever lived is
951
00:48:00,561 --> 00:48:05,720
because he literally could do every
single aspect of professional wrestling,
952
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:08,520
except for commentary,
and was not a fan of that.
953
00:48:08,820 --> 00:48:11,660
You gotta be able to get a patent
on some of these wrestling hoes.
954
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:12,840
People are stealing them.
955
00:48:12,841 --> 00:48:14,121
That's the million dollar dream.
956
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,220
Randy probably looked at it as,
man, do they not think that I'm good
957
00:48:19,221 --> 00:48:20,995
enough in the ring
anymore that they're
958
00:48:21,007 --> 00:48:23,060
gonna put me out here
as a color commentator?
959
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:26,180
His voice was a
small doses thing.
960
00:48:26,420 --> 00:48:28,649
You don't wanna just
hear, running commentary,
961
00:48:28,661 --> 00:48:30,520
oh, up the top, oh,
there we go, yeah.
962
00:48:30,660 --> 00:48:35,001
After two hours of it, it's like, ah, it
doesn't have the same mystique anymore.
963
00:48:35,140 --> 00:48:36,940
Are you ever gonna get
back in the ring again?
964
00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:37,420
Absolutely.
965
00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:39,010
Thanks for asking
me that question.
966
00:48:39,220 --> 00:48:42,900
I'm gonna just, you know, I've been on the
sidelines kind of just picking my shots,
967
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,420
and I feel an opportunity coming
up really, really, really soon, within a
968
00:48:46,421 --> 00:48:48,480
week, in fact, and I'm
gonna get back into the ring.
969
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,580
I'm gonna still be doing the broadcast
because I really enjoy it, and I'm
970
00:48:52,655 --> 00:48:54,880
broadcasting because I
want to, not because I have to.
971
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,760
But when I get back into the squared
circle, I'm gonna make a quick name for
972
00:48:58,761 --> 00:49:00,782
myself again, and I'm gonna
go after that World Wrestling
973
00:49:00,783 --> 00:49:04,300
Federation Championship belt
for the third time, a three-peat.
974
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,196
Randy had a lot of fight left
in him, a lot of gas in the tank.
975
00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:08,380
He had no knee replacements.
976
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,820
Randy hadn't had
any major surgeries.
977
00:49:10,821 --> 00:49:11,821
His legs were good.
978
00:49:11,860 --> 00:49:15,680
He tore his tricep and knocked
his teeth out one time by accident.
979
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,280
He was in great shape, man.
980
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,320
He could go.
981
00:49:18,380 --> 00:49:21,140
When they wrestled me, they turned
out to be a clown one way or another.
982
00:49:21,141 --> 00:49:22,940
Yeah, Doink the Clown.
983
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,620
Doink the Clown, Hulk Hogan
the Clown, or whatever it is.
984
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,660
You know, it
doesn't even matter.
985
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,996
I know you and Hulk were
kind of friends there for a while.
986
00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:31,020
Kind of not, too.
987
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:31,540
Oh, yeah?
988
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:32,660
Yeah.
989
00:49:32,860 --> 00:49:34,920
Kind of and kind of not, yeah.
990
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,220
Somewhere in between, uh-huh.
991
00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:40,120
They said, we're having
a youth movement.
992
00:49:40,121 --> 00:49:41,961
The best thing you can
do is hold onto the mic.
993
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,020
He says, well, I'll get a
second opinion on that.
994
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,940
And it turned out, WCW
didn't think he was too old.
995
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,880
I'll never forget the
night that it happened.
996
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,820
I remember Vince walking around
saying, has anybody seen Randy?
997
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,680
I would need to go
over the format with him.
998
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,531
And then an hour before
our show started, somebody
999
00:49:57,631 --> 00:50:00,960
came to Vince and said,
hey, Vince, turn on the TV.
1000
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:06,940
It gives me a great deal of pleasure to
introduce truly one of the all-time greats
1001
00:50:06,941 --> 00:50:11,300
in professional wrestling, finally
arriving at World Championship Wrestling.
1002
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,940
I was with Vince at the time, right
in the same room, and he no-sold it.
1003
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:19,080
There was no expression
change on his face at all.
1004
00:50:19,220 --> 00:50:20,060
He looked around.
1005
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:20,980
He looked over at me.
1006
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:23,380
He said, King, could you do
the commentary with me tonight?
1007
00:50:23,740 --> 00:50:25,380
Randy, I know you're
out there listening.
1008
00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:32,060
And on behalf of all of us, all of your
fans, and certainly me, the number one
1009
00:50:32,061 --> 00:50:35,120
fan, I'd like to say thank you for
all of your positive contributions.
1010
00:50:35,420 --> 00:50:38,540
Even when it was happening, a lot of
people didn't believe it was happening.
1011
00:50:38,541 --> 00:50:40,620
I wish you nothing but the best.
1012
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,640
Godspeed and good luck.
1013
00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:47,440
It was a surprise and
not a pleasant one.
1014
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:49,520
And it was, you know, it hurt.
1015
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,060
They wanted me to do the commentary
thing, you know, which I will want to do
1016
00:50:53,061 --> 00:50:56,220
sometime, because I got a pretty good
slanted viewpoint on things, you know?
1017
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,000
I feel that I would like to
express it at some time.
1018
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:01,176
You know, it's not even
now, but I just wasn't
1019
00:51:01,177 --> 00:51:03,260
ready, you know, to take
off my boots at that point.
1020
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,280
I'm glad I didn't.
1021
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:05,740
I don't think he
wanted to do that.
1022
00:51:06,980 --> 00:51:08,020
He didn't want to do that.
1023
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,920
This isn't Randy.
1024
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,080
Macho Man and Hulk Hogan
have a date with destiny!
1025
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:17,660
Oh, yeah!
1026
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,000
Star King, dig it!
1027
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:22,600
All right, the Macho Man,
Randy Savage, already
1028
00:51:22,601 --> 00:51:26,640
making his presence known
here on WCW Saturday Night.
1029
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,880
Oh, yeah!
1030
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,220
During the Monday Night Wars when WWE and
WCW were going head-to-head on TV on the
1031
00:51:39,221 --> 00:51:43,680
same night, for a long time, WCW,
they were winning the Monday Night Wars.
1032
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,208
And part of that was
because a lot of talent would
1033
00:51:47,209 --> 00:51:49,560
jump ship, and Randy
was one of those talents.
1034
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,460
I mean, he was a big, big star.
1035
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,260
I think it was devastating.
1036
00:51:53,540 --> 00:51:55,580
You know, I think it was
because he was our captain.
1037
00:51:58,540 --> 00:52:00,853
I remember a bunch
of us were talking and
1038
00:52:00,854 --> 00:52:04,761
saying, like, man, like,
we don't have any stars.
1039
00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:07,320
Macho Man, Randy Savage
with the one and only...
1040
00:52:07,321 --> 00:52:09,940
We all felt that maybe
there was a shift going on.
1041
00:52:09,941 --> 00:52:10,340
My gosh.
1042
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,200
The two biggest guys of our era,
Hogan and Randy Savage, are there?
1043
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:18,880
Oh, yeah!
1044
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,340
There was a huge rift
with Randy and Hogan.
1045
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:29,040
So when Randy went to WCW, it was
always a very business-like relationship.
1046
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:32,120
It was a really smart move
because Randy wasn't done wrestling.
1047
00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:35,560
Vince told him he was done wrestling,
and Randy wasn't done wrestling.
1048
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:39,080
He had a major impact on the
wrestling business once he came over.
1049
00:52:39,081 --> 00:52:43,800
Randy was highly
motivated, so was I.
1050
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:46,647
And when you have two highly
motivated people that each
1051
00:52:46,648 --> 00:52:49,520
want really the same thing,
then it's just about numbers.
1052
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,180
And what was really, really interesting
about negotiating the Randy Savage deal is
1053
00:52:54,181 --> 00:52:58,840
it didn't cost me a dime, because when
Randy Savage made the jump to WCW,
1054
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,060
so did Slim Jim.
1055
00:53:06,610 --> 00:53:13,830
He took Slim Jim with him, and that
was to the tune of $750,000 per year.
1056
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:14,270
I was a big fan of Slim Jim.
1057
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:16,110
Is that a wolf?
1058
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:17,470
Ooh, yeah!
1059
00:53:19,850 --> 00:53:22,470
Slim Jim!
1060
00:53:22,850 --> 00:53:24,370
Macho Man got
me to eat Slim Jims.
1061
00:53:24,590 --> 00:53:28,690
So any irregularity I have with
my bowels is on you, Slim Jim.
1062
00:53:28,890 --> 00:53:30,130
I'm gonna take you to court.
1063
00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:31,950
Drop the elbow from it, yeah.
1064
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:35,590
Intestinal fortitude
not included, yeah.
1065
00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:36,610
What do you see?
1066
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:37,790
Slim Jim.
1067
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:39,130
Slim Jim.
1068
00:53:39,850 --> 00:53:40,850
Slim Jim!
1069
00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:44,296
You could tell he was
struggling with aging
1070
00:53:44,297 --> 00:53:46,290
in WCW, and you could
tell he was doing well.
1071
00:53:46,291 --> 00:53:49,090
He was doing whatever he had
to do to keep his body in shape.
1072
00:53:49,410 --> 00:53:50,650
And he got too big.
1073
00:53:50,850 --> 00:53:52,250
I'm not giving up.
1074
00:53:52,510 --> 00:53:54,270
I'm just getting started.
1075
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:59,190
In that period of time, it was about
guys being bigger, stronger, faster.
1076
00:53:59,670 --> 00:54:00,910
You know, it was in all sports.
1077
00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:06,130
A lot of wrestlers took steroids just
to heal and to maintain their body.
1078
00:54:08,110 --> 00:54:11,730
If you're on the road like that,
you're not eating properly, you're not
1079
00:54:11,731 --> 00:54:14,910
getting the right sleep,
your body starts to tear down.
1080
00:54:14,911 --> 00:54:16,030
Did Randy use them?
1081
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:17,670
I had never seen him do it.
1082
00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:20,250
Now, if you ask me
if I think he did, yes.
1083
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:22,550
That's just my own thought.
1084
00:54:23,170 --> 00:54:24,410
I've been wrong before, though.
1085
00:54:27,970 --> 00:54:29,870
He got his money
in WCW, you know?
1086
00:54:30,110 --> 00:54:32,048
He went and cashed in,
got a nice check, money he
1087
00:54:32,049 --> 00:54:34,431
could have lived off
of for the rest of his life.
1088
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:39,370
He did sort of, in WCW, kind of
end up in Hogan's shadow again.
1089
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:43,018
In WWE, it was almost
like he was lurking in the
1090
00:54:43,078 --> 00:54:45,890
shadows of Hogan, like,
I'm right here, I can do this.
1091
00:54:46,090 --> 00:54:48,270
In WCW, it wasn't like that.
1092
00:54:48,430 --> 00:54:50,110
He was never a
threat to Hogan's spot.
1093
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:52,270
I think there was
a lot of competition.
1094
00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:55,583
I think until the day that
Randy Savage died, there
1095
00:54:55,584 --> 00:54:59,270
was a lot of emotional
feelings between he and Hogan.
1096
00:54:59,530 --> 00:55:00,770
It was kind of scary.
1097
00:55:01,370 --> 00:55:03,852
Even though neither one of
them would talk about it, they
1098
00:55:03,853 --> 00:55:06,210
didn't need to have anybody
tell you what was happening.
1099
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:07,410
You could see it.
1100
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:08,530
They didn't get along.
1101
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:10,710
They did not get along.
1102
00:55:12,890 --> 00:55:14,647
Eric Bischoff came to
me and said, hey, man,
1103
00:55:14,659 --> 00:55:16,270
we got an opportunity
to grab Elizabeth.
1104
00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:17,810
They were divorced, you know.
1105
00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:21,970
I went, oh, my God, if we could
get her, that would be so intense.
1106
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:26,467
When Miss Elizabeth
wanted to come to WCW, it
1107
00:55:26,468 --> 00:55:29,531
was Randy who was one
of her biggest advocates.
1108
00:55:29,830 --> 00:55:33,810
Randy had moved on with his personal
life, so there was no excess baggage.
1109
00:55:34,130 --> 00:55:35,426
He didn't have a
problem with it at all.
1110
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:37,690
He said, man, if there's
money to be made, let's make it.
1111
00:55:38,170 --> 00:55:39,170
My boy.
1112
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:45,680
By the time that I met Liz and we were
getting to know each other, I had the
1113
00:55:45,681 --> 00:55:49,120
sense that she had completely
moved on from the marriage with Randy.
1114
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,180
She had met someone.
1115
00:55:51,490 --> 00:55:56,620
All of a sudden, Liz was converting
to Judaism and moving to Florida.
1116
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,820
You know, it didn't
last long, but she tried.
1117
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:05,040
A real man totally out
of the gate of a woman.
1118
00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:09,500
What I thought at the time was an innocent
workplace flirtation, and sure enough,
1119
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,960
there is no such thing as innocent
workplace flirtation, so working together
1120
00:56:13,961 --> 00:56:17,040
and being around each other, we
definitely crossed those boundaries.
1121
00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:20,760
Take a good look at the
genetic wonder here, Mr. DNA.
1122
00:56:20,820 --> 00:56:24,013
My best friend from
wrestling, Stink, he tried to
1123
00:56:24,014 --> 00:56:27,220
sit down with me many
times and talk to me about it.
1124
00:56:27,740 --> 00:56:31,120
Man, I just, I wouldn't do that.
1125
00:56:31,260 --> 00:56:34,200
There just wasn't any
stopping him at the time.
1126
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:41,280
It didn't seem like it was probably the
best idea for a number of pretty obvious
1127
00:56:41,281 --> 00:56:46,021
reasons, but somebody else's life, and
they're gonna do what they're gonna do.
1128
00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:51,120
When it became obvious to
me, I thought, okay, here we go.
1129
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,460
This is that iceberg that the
Titanic hit that nobody saw coming.
1130
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:55,640
Here comes mine.
1131
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,880
And it didn't happen.
1132
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,160
I think Randy was just kind of maybe over
it, just kind of was keeping his distance.
1133
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,610
It was like a full circle
situation because, you know, if
1134
00:57:08,611 --> 00:57:11,116
I hadn't have done that,
then I hadn't have got over it.
1135
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:11,660
You know what I mean?
1136
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:12,540
Because, you know.
1137
00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:14,640
I don't believe in taking
anything to the grave.
1138
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,580
You know what I mean?
1139
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:18,180
Because me and Alyssa,
they are still friends.
1140
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,160
You know what I mean?
1141
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Just something that didn't work.
1142
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,020
And it was a
no-problem situation.
1143
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:23,980
You know what I mean?
1144
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,985
And just, life goes on,
and you shouldn't spend
1145
00:57:26,986 --> 00:57:30,241
the rest of your life
dwelling over any one thing.
1146
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,120
When he had Liz, I don't
think he really went out.
1147
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:39,640
When they separated, it was almost like
It's like having a freshman in college.
1148
00:57:39,980 --> 00:57:41,280
What are we doing tonight?
1149
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,900
I believe Randy Savage met Gorgeous
George outside of the wrestling business.
1150
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,560
I'm not sure what she was
doing for a living at the time.
1151
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,920
There may have been
some dancing involved.
1152
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:58,800
I moved to Tampa and the
first person that I met was Randy.
1153
00:57:59,340 --> 00:58:00,720
It was kind of like fate.
1154
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,000
I totally believe in fate.
1155
00:58:02,660 --> 00:58:04,800
The first place I worked
was the dollhouse.
1156
00:58:04,801 --> 00:58:07,799
So I get in there, they
give me a sequined gown
1157
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,120
that I owe money for
at the end of the week.
1158
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,920
I'm on the set
list to go on stage.
1159
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,760
I didn't even have enough
money to get a drink for myself.
1160
00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:19,340
So I'm sitting there and some old
guy starts whacking me in my arm.
1161
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,640
And he's like, girl,
buy me a drink.
1162
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:23,940
And I was like,
you buy me a drink?
1163
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,980
And he starts fighting with me.
1164
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,980
So next thing I know, I got grabbed
up and thrown outside the dollhouse.
1165
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:33,454
On my knees in a sequined
gown, some guy comes
1166
00:58:33,474 --> 00:58:36,560
up to me and says,
Hey girl, are you okay?
1167
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,736
And I'm like, dude, did you
just see what happened?
1168
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,965
He's like, yo, that
wouldn't have happened if
1169
00:58:40,966 --> 00:58:43,300
you would have been
beaten up on Evel Knievel.
1170
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:46,600
And I get to looking at him
and I'm like, Macho Man?
1171
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,700
I mean, this was
like a surreal dream.
1172
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,860
He gives me his phone
number and an address.
1173
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,880
So I got this piece of paper with
his phone number in my hand.
1174
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,760
And I'm thinking to myself,
well, he might be cool.
1175
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,820
She was a lot
younger than all of us.
1176
00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:02,480
She was the perfect eye candy
for the Macho Man, for the gimmick.
1177
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:05,560
Where Elizabeth was unplugged,
she got plugged back in.
1178
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,440
George was George.
1179
00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:10,620
She was cool.
1180
00:59:10,660 --> 00:59:11,660
I mean, young.
1181
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,380
And she was kind of hip.
1182
00:59:13,790 --> 00:59:15,600
She kind of updated Randy.
1183
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,520
Randy got kind of a cool factor.
1184
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,436
That's when he
started wearing leather.
1185
00:59:20,460 --> 00:59:22,060
That's where he
got really jacked.
1186
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:23,360
He got rid of all the flare.
1187
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,000
He was coming out in just like
black leather with a necklace.
1188
00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:27,540
Here comes the Macho Man.
1189
00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:29,660
Thursday night thunder,
Monday night nitro.
1190
00:59:30,715 --> 00:59:32,100
It just kept going, you know.
1191
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:33,600
There was never no let up.
1192
00:59:33,601 --> 00:59:35,860
We traveled over
300 days a year.
1193
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,460
There's the celebration.
1194
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,360
My sister, she's
about 17 at the time.
1195
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,860
She moved down to
Florida to watch my son.
1196
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,780
So when we went to
travel, I trusted somebody.
1197
00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:52,380
My sister had called me.
1198
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:54,500
She said, I'm going
to be wrestling.
1199
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:59,820
And with Isaac being down here, I need
someone that I can trust to watch him.
1200
01:00:00,060 --> 01:00:01,380
And you know, I'm down.
1201
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,820
Randy was really nice to me.
1202
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:08,000
He was just really
focused on his work.
1203
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,776
Macho Man, he would
take me to Toys R Us.
1204
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,960
He would buy different
action figures for me and stuff.
1205
01:00:12,060 --> 01:00:14,780
And a couple of times he actually
bought himself as an action figure.
1206
01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:15,940
It was cool.
1207
01:00:16,540 --> 01:00:17,960
Aw, that's nice.
1208
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,540
Is that like a negligee?
1209
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,040
Randy and George had the
reputation in town of really partying.
1210
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,580
And that reputation got out.
1211
01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:29,140
They seemed to have a good time.
1212
01:00:29,470 --> 01:00:32,720
After shows or matches,
they went out together.
1213
01:00:32,721 --> 01:00:34,120
She partied hard.
1214
01:00:35,020 --> 01:00:36,180
George wasn't afraid.
1215
01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:40,780
George came from the stripping community
and Randy was, I think, trying to live
1216
01:00:40,781 --> 01:00:43,220
vicariously in a young
type of way through George.
1217
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:44,740
I don't know what
the age gap was.
1218
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:46,140
I think it was quite extensive.
1219
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,060
Even though he was
older, he didn't act older.
1220
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,660
He was fast going, upbeat.
1221
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,460
He worked out every day.
1222
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,540
He was just go, go, go, go, go.
1223
01:00:55,620 --> 01:00:56,620
That was Randy.
1224
01:00:57,220 --> 01:01:00,800
When I first met Randy, he
was definitely doing steroids.
1225
01:01:00,801 --> 01:01:02,420
There was veins upon veins.
1226
01:01:02,620 --> 01:01:03,760
He had veins in his eyelids.
1227
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,620
If he started to regress from it, he'd
see the difference in his body change.
1228
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:13,640
So as soon as he thought, for one second
he was getting older, he'd push more.
1229
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,140
We would always stop
at his mom and dad's.
1230
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,520
And Angela would put
me in the massage chair.
1231
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:22,060
He would take Randy upstairs
to give him his medicine.
1232
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:29,360
The dad would distribute the things that
he needed to enhance his physical being.
1233
01:01:29,361 --> 01:01:32,242
I would stay in the
chair until the shots were
1234
01:01:32,243 --> 01:01:35,621
distributed and then we'd
jump in the car and leave.
1235
01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:40,160
We were doing alcohol, ecstasy,
steroids, uppers, downers.
1236
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:46,390
He liked to indulge
in some ecstasy.
1237
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:52,630
In Florida, it was kind of on the
scene, especially over in Tampa.
1238
01:01:52,910 --> 01:01:55,463
He'd sometimes give me
two, three hundred dollars
1239
01:01:55,464 --> 01:01:58,330
and I would go and get
them and I'd give them to him.
1240
01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:00,710
Randy would walk around.
1241
01:02:00,730 --> 01:02:02,954
He'd walk around with
a thousand dollars or
1242
01:02:02,955 --> 01:02:05,150
more worth of ecstasy
pills in his hip sack.
1243
01:02:05,570 --> 01:02:06,630
At all times.
1244
01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:11,690
There's one really
distinctful time we were high.
1245
01:02:11,970 --> 01:02:14,110
It was when we were
wearing the red outfits.
1246
01:02:14,370 --> 01:02:16,990
And gorgeous George,
her in the house.
1247
01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:18,130
Oh yeah.
1248
01:02:19,010 --> 01:02:20,490
You're right about one thing.
1249
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:21,890
What's that macho?
1250
01:02:22,130 --> 01:02:24,190
I ain't no punk bitch.
1251
01:02:24,790 --> 01:02:26,710
People were like, what
is he talking about?
1252
01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:28,830
We were so high.
1253
01:02:30,730 --> 01:02:33,590
And gorgeous George
are leaving the building.
1254
01:02:34,490 --> 01:02:35,530
Oh yeah.
1255
01:02:37,090 --> 01:02:42,510
At the height of my success was the worst
part I've ever been in my entire life.
1256
01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:44,090
I looked gorgeous.
1257
01:02:44,310 --> 01:02:45,310
I looked beautiful.
1258
01:02:45,390 --> 01:02:46,770
I looked like I had it together.
1259
01:02:47,150 --> 01:02:49,790
And at the same time,
I had nothing together.
1260
01:02:53,330 --> 01:02:56,010
I heard about Randy doing
things to Liz through the grapevine.
1261
01:02:56,370 --> 01:02:58,753
I had heard that
she had to go to Hulk
1262
01:02:58,765 --> 01:03:01,590
Hogan's house to hide
from him with his wife.
1263
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:04,350
I'd heard about her
eating in closets.
1264
01:03:04,555 --> 01:03:05,830
I'd heard about all this stuff.
1265
01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:08,970
I didn't believe it because
he was so good to me.
1266
01:03:09,130 --> 01:03:13,970
And then as time went on, the
steroids gotten worse and worse.
1267
01:03:14,530 --> 01:03:17,950
And the paranoid schizophrenia
started to grow more and more.
1268
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:21,010
I was so young.
1269
01:03:21,330 --> 01:03:25,250
I had no idea how to
categorize what I was seeing.
1270
01:03:26,070 --> 01:03:27,910
I didn't see the
side of him yet.
1271
01:03:28,350 --> 01:03:30,570
Until now he's
looking at me like that.
1272
01:03:31,350 --> 01:03:34,622
One day, I'm cleaning his
house and all of a sudden I
1273
01:03:34,623 --> 01:03:37,590
notice this fuse box on the
bottom of the broom closet.
1274
01:03:37,930 --> 01:03:39,150
I go to open it up.
1275
01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:41,010
So I put the keys
in and I turn them.
1276
01:03:41,130 --> 01:03:44,410
And I pull it out and I open the
door and I'm like, wow, what is that?
1277
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:48,790
And there's four screens on
top and four screens on bottom.
1278
01:03:48,930 --> 01:03:50,570
Wow, that looks like my house.
1279
01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:52,190
Wait a minute.
1280
01:03:52,430 --> 01:03:53,670
That is my house.
1281
01:03:55,090 --> 01:03:57,230
He's got my whole house taped.
1282
01:03:57,231 --> 01:04:00,150
And then I hear him
coming up the corridor, right?
1283
01:04:00,730 --> 01:04:05,190
And right when he walks in the
door, boom, clicked it, slammed it.
1284
01:04:05,530 --> 01:04:06,570
I sit there like this.
1285
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:08,410
He goes, are you okay?
1286
01:04:08,510 --> 01:04:10,970
I go, he goes, what's
wrong with you?
1287
01:04:11,030 --> 01:04:12,510
I go, take me home now.
1288
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:14,250
He goes, what is wrong with you?
1289
01:04:14,330 --> 01:04:15,330
I go, take me home.
1290
01:04:16,450 --> 01:04:18,070
There was things
that he would say.
1291
01:04:18,790 --> 01:04:22,670
There's no way he would
be able to say that if he didn't
1292
01:04:22,671 --> 01:04:26,710
have some kind of camera
or audio video in our home.
1293
01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:28,230
Because he wasn't there.
1294
01:04:28,770 --> 01:04:30,050
That's when it got creepy.
1295
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:34,310
There was some times where, you know, you
could feel the tension between them both.
1296
01:04:34,510 --> 01:04:36,998
Being that young and
being around a lifestyle
1297
01:04:37,078 --> 01:04:38,890
like that, it was
really busy, you know.
1298
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:40,350
Everything was
just really constant.
1299
01:04:41,090 --> 01:04:45,298
Randy had it upon
delusion of our relationship
1300
01:04:45,299 --> 01:04:49,270
would be a termination
of every kind of contract.
1301
01:04:50,250 --> 01:04:51,290
He knew what he was doing.
1302
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:58,770
When they broke up, she went from
Gorge to George, back to George.
1303
01:04:58,790 --> 01:04:59,790
Back to Stephanie.
1304
01:05:00,190 --> 01:05:01,190
Done.
1305
01:05:01,890 --> 01:05:03,810
Randy cut her out
of every single thing.
1306
01:05:04,790 --> 01:05:08,550
We ended up leaving Florida, and she
got a place back in her home, Rockford.
1307
01:05:09,010 --> 01:05:10,670
And we got our own
house there and stuff.
1308
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:13,850
And Randy was really pissed
off about that, you know.
1309
01:05:13,930 --> 01:05:15,250
And he wanted her.
1310
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:17,050
He just wanted her, you know.
1311
01:05:17,051 --> 01:05:18,611
And she didn't want
to be a part of it.
1312
01:05:19,730 --> 01:05:22,190
Nobody knew what
I was going through.
1313
01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:24,710
And I've never really
opened up and told anybody.
1314
01:05:25,030 --> 01:05:29,170
I don't want to tarnish somebody's
reputation, who was such a great person.
1315
01:05:29,410 --> 01:05:32,690
The things that were
bad were very bad.
1316
01:05:33,210 --> 01:05:34,970
But the things that were
good were very good.
1317
01:05:38,910 --> 01:05:44,091
Miss Elizabeth was very pristine, was
always on this extra pristine pedestal.
1318
01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:47,056
I think she may have
jumped out of Randy's
1319
01:05:47,057 --> 01:05:50,331
frying pan into a hotter
skillet, so to speak.
1320
01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:55,610
I think the ongoing scuttlebutt amongst the
boys was, this is not going to end well.
1321
01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:57,550
We definitely did
not put the brakes on.
1322
01:05:57,770 --> 01:05:59,630
It might have been a
good idea, but we didn't.
1323
01:05:59,930 --> 01:06:01,330
In retrospect, of course.
1324
01:06:02,010 --> 01:06:03,010
In hindsight.
1325
01:06:12,130 --> 01:06:14,939
Because she was
so deep into this
1326
01:06:14,951 --> 01:06:18,850
relationship, she was
around us less and less.
1327
01:06:18,970 --> 01:06:20,210
She was a little more isolated.
1328
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:23,930
We were concerned and we were worried,
and we would always reach out to her and
1329
01:06:23,931 --> 01:06:27,830
see what we could do to help
her, but it just wasn't working.
1330
01:06:29,710 --> 01:06:31,970
I was surprised she
was running with Lex.
1331
01:06:32,570 --> 01:06:35,370
Lex was running real hard, and so
were some of his friends at the time.
1332
01:06:36,090 --> 01:06:38,268
And when I saw her with
Lex, I told Eric Bischoff,
1333
01:06:38,269 --> 01:06:40,671
we'll be reading about
her in about two years.
1334
01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:48,820
I'm not getting pumped
out in my hometown.
1335
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:52,420
Let me just tell you that right
now, by you or anybody else.
1336
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:54,726
You know, if he wants
to fire the first shot, that's
1337
01:06:54,727 --> 01:06:56,921
fine, because I'll fire the
last shot machine gun style.
1338
01:06:57,260 --> 01:06:59,200
You know, the sad part
is about this whole thing.
1339
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,340
I'm supposedly the enemy, and
I'm this no-good son of a bitch.
1340
01:07:02,341 --> 01:07:07,160
Randy and Hulk had a dysfunctional
relationship, much like many marriages
1341
01:07:07,161 --> 01:07:09,985
that I've witnessed over the
years, where a husband and a
1342
01:07:09,986 --> 01:07:13,420
wife kind of tend to fall in
and out of love with each other.
1343
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:17,660
If all the moons line up just right,
you know, and everything is just great,
1344
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,620
and it's a sunny day, you know, they
might be able to work something out.
1345
01:07:20,740 --> 01:07:21,960
It was that way with them.
1346
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,700
You know, they had their
wars, you know, in Florida.
1347
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,175
Randy Savage got on
another radio station and talked
1348
01:07:27,176 --> 01:07:29,321
crap about me, saying that
me and Hogan are having sex.
1349
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,240
That's fine, Randy.
1350
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,780
The girl you used to have
sex with now is doing pornos.
1351
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,682
Join me tonight at
Stormin's on the big
1352
01:07:34,683 --> 01:07:36,820
screen, and I'll play the
gorgeous George tape.
1353
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:39,000
It was all apparently real.
1354
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,536
They were always
kind of hot at each other.
1355
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,200
When he started on me, I started on him,
you know, and I had a bigger voice in him
1356
01:07:44,201 --> 01:07:47,460
because I had a buddy here in Tampa
that had a local radio show, and we just
1357
01:07:47,461 --> 01:07:49,320
blasted him every
morning, drove him crazy.
1358
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:53,020
Making fun of Randy kind of gravitated
to my airwaves fairly instantaneously,
1359
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,332
so within a few months
of Hogan and I hanging
1360
01:07:56,333 --> 01:07:58,300
out, we just started
kind of ribbing Randy.
1361
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,920
Everybody look, it's
Randy Macho Man!
1362
01:08:01,940 --> 01:08:03,220
Working out at Gold's Gym!
1363
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:04,600
He just his pants!
1364
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,020
Oh, it just drove
Macho Man insane.
1365
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,800
Macho Man would go to lawyers in town and
be like, oh, yeah, there's this fat radio
1366
01:08:11,801 --> 01:08:15,240
guy who's talking a bunch of crap
about me, and I poop my pants.
1367
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,996
And then the lawyers would say,
well, Randy, did you poop your pants?
1368
01:08:18,020 --> 01:08:19,500
And they're like,
well, yeah, well...
1369
01:08:20,750 --> 01:08:23,340
It's the debut release from
Macho Man, Randy Savage.
1370
01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:30,580
Listen to him throw down with such
songs as Let's Get It On and Be A Man.
1371
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:37,800
At some point, I look up and I see that
Macho Man, Randy Savage is a rapper.
1372
01:08:38,650 --> 01:08:39,650
And he's not kidding.
1373
01:08:40,380 --> 01:08:42,480
I've been putting my
music as a priority one.
1374
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,016
Everybody's writing a book,
and I'm not writing a book.
1375
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,300
I want to express
myself with music.
1376
01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:52,120
I think the entire motive of his rap
album was to try to take a shot at Terry.
1377
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:55,500
Uh, I just think...
1378
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:57,100
I don't know.
1379
01:08:57,220 --> 01:08:59,096
You know, it didn't really
gain any traction anywhere.
1380
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,180
You know, it was just
one of those things.
1381
01:09:01,181 --> 01:09:02,060
He got it off his chest.
1382
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:04,136
It was part of that hate
that he had to get rid of.
1383
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:09,940
Randy had a plan that Be A Man
Hulk was going to sell 50 million copies.
1384
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:12,820
Instead, it only sold 50,000.
1385
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,320
The critics said it defied
physical possibilities.
1386
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:20,120
It sucked and blew
at the same moment.
1387
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,900
I don't necessarily know that
any of us are really proud of it.
1388
01:09:24,020 --> 01:09:27,813
You know, I mean, I wouldn't
be a man if I didn't say, you
1389
01:09:27,814 --> 01:09:30,940
know, to the camera that I was
sorry for the things that I said.
1390
01:09:31,180 --> 01:09:33,500
good shot of this right
here, you hear me?
1391
01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:35,480
Oh yeah, I'm savage, boy.
1392
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,760
If you don't got it you don't
know what music is, dude.
1393
01:09:37,900 --> 01:09:38,900
music.
1394
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:43,380
There was nothing
untypical about the evening.
1395
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,440
We were hanging out, watching movies, uh,
having a few drinks and popping some pills.
1396
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,740
She dozed off on the
couch for a minute.
1397
01:09:51,820 --> 01:09:55,220
It was a late at night, so I realized
definitely there was something wrong,
1398
01:09:55,450 --> 01:09:56,900
so I immediately called 911.
1399
01:09:57,580 --> 01:09:58,620
She's laying on the floor.
1400
01:09:58,660 --> 01:09:59,660
I tried to pick her up.
1401
01:09:59,740 --> 01:10:00,340
I tried to...
1402
01:10:00,341 --> 01:10:03,980
Okay, what I want you to do, I want
you to go over and see if she's breathing.
1403
01:10:04,260 --> 01:10:05,280
I can't tell.
1404
01:10:05,420 --> 01:10:08,100
Please send somebody here
who knows what they're doing.
1405
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,000
And I got taken in from there, and
they found out all the drugs in the
1406
01:10:12,001 --> 01:10:14,840
house, and I was placed
under arrest shortly thereafter.
1407
01:10:15,530 --> 01:10:16,740
One day the phone rang.
1408
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:18,640
Liz is gone.
1409
01:10:18,940 --> 01:10:22,980
Pro wrestler Lex Luger is under
arrest tonight, and his girlfriend is dead.
1410
01:10:23,340 --> 01:10:24,340
This all happened today.
1411
01:10:24,730 --> 01:10:27,400
Gosh, she just had
so much to offer.
1412
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,520
Both Lex and Elizabeth did what
addicts often do, which is hide it.
1413
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:36,440
By the time it became obvious to those
of us who would have liked to have known,
1414
01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:37,180
it was too late.
1415
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:39,080
They were already
pretty far gone.
1416
01:10:39,730 --> 01:10:43,161
She was a beautiful,
wonderful, gorgeous woman
1417
01:10:43,162 --> 01:10:46,200
who had no clue how
gifted she actually was.
1418
01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:52,260
Absolutely, I had a role and definitely a
profoundly negative influence on someone.
1419
01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:53,640
You ask, did you murder her?
1420
01:10:53,641 --> 01:10:55,880
No, I didn't force her
to do drugs or take pills.
1421
01:10:56,740 --> 01:10:57,180
But...
1422
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,720
Was I a negative influence for
time that led to that happening?
1423
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,120
Definitely.
1424
01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:04,700
If I could change that
and go back in time, I...
1425
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:08,580
Boy, I would, but I can't.
1426
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:13,652
I think the end for
Elizabeth is one of the
1427
01:11:13,653 --> 01:11:16,000
saddest things that's
ever happened in wrestling.
1428
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,540
She wasn't supposed
to go that way.
1429
01:11:18,820 --> 01:11:20,520
Like, she wasn't a wrestler.
1430
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,620
She didn't abuse her body
that we knew of, you know?
1431
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:26,840
Like, it's just heartbreaking.
1432
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:31,120
I never said a word about it.
1433
01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:32,596
I said, I'm very
sorry for Elizabeth.
1434
01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:33,620
She said, thank you.
1435
01:11:33,820 --> 01:11:35,880
I didn't pick his scabs.
1436
01:11:36,420 --> 01:11:41,360
I spoke when spoken to, and if I saw a
mud puddle, I didn't splash him with it.
1437
01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:46,000
We loved each other, but we didn't talk
about everything unless he brought it up.
1438
01:11:46,180 --> 01:11:50,985
I know that he had a lot of
fond respect for Lex Luger,
1439
01:11:50,986 --> 01:11:55,300
and I don't think he held
any animosity toward him.
1440
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:55,860
At all?
1441
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:56,560
Really?
1442
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:56,820
Really?
1443
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:57,840
I gave my answer.
1444
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:00,720
I really feel real bad
for her and her family.
1445
01:12:01,060 --> 01:12:04,920
And it was a situation where we hadn't
seen each other in about maybe five,
1446
01:12:05,060 --> 01:12:05,420
six years.
1447
01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:08,820
But, you know, we had closure, and we
said hello, and everything was all good.
1448
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,640
But I feel bad for her family.
1449
01:12:14,810 --> 01:12:15,810
It just sort of ended.
1450
01:12:16,265 --> 01:12:19,320
And Randy Savage seemed to
just sort of fade away from wrestling.
1451
01:12:20,350 --> 01:12:23,573
He seemed to kind of go
peacefully into the night
1452
01:12:23,574 --> 01:12:26,740
in a way that most wrestlers
are incapable of doing.
1453
01:12:27,290 --> 01:12:30,530
In my whole life, it's because I want to
do something rather than having to do it.
1454
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,252
You know, so I've been a
really good businessman
1455
01:12:33,253 --> 01:12:36,161
as far as my personal
finances have gone.
1456
01:12:36,230 --> 01:12:38,780
From what I heard,
he was doing well.
1457
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:39,400
He was happy.
1458
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,063
A lot of the guys leave this
business and they can't get
1459
01:12:42,123 --> 01:12:43,840
it out of their system,
can't get it out of their blood.
1460
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,720
But Randy seemed
to have done that.
1461
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,946
And if you remember, I mean,
he was one of the first guys
1462
01:12:48,947 --> 01:12:52,100
that got a decent part in a
major, major motion picture.
1463
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:52,460
Hey!
1464
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,160
Unlock!
1465
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,680
You're going nowhere!
1466
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,720
I got you for three minutes!
1467
01:13:02,380 --> 01:13:04,160
Three minutes of PE time!
1468
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,820
I got this little switch
inside my brain.
1469
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,350
When you trip that
light fantastic and it's
1470
01:13:14,351 --> 01:13:16,700
showtime and you hear
that roar from the crowd.
1471
01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:17,380
You know what I mean?
1472
01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:19,940
And you get those chill bumps
all the way up from nose to toes.
1473
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:22,680
And then it's not
a problem at all.
1474
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,516
You know, in fact, it's pretty easy for
me to get up for something like that.
1475
01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:28,440
You know, because it's just
either inside you or it's not.
1476
01:13:28,580 --> 01:13:30,613
And I say that when it
stops getting to be fun
1477
01:13:30,614 --> 01:13:33,020
for something, it's somebody
they need to get out.
1478
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,900
When Randy Savage was
done with people, he moved on.
1479
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,940
And Randy would
cut it off and move on.
1480
01:13:38,941 --> 01:13:39,960
You didn't exist to him.
1481
01:13:40,060 --> 01:13:43,540
So the same thing with his personal
life, same thing with his business.
1482
01:13:43,820 --> 01:13:45,000
It was time to move on.
1483
01:13:45,585 --> 01:13:47,160
He moved on, didn't look back.
1484
01:13:47,460 --> 01:13:51,300
And the latter part of his life where he
went gray and he kind of naturally aged,
1485
01:13:51,460 --> 01:13:55,150
I think that that might
have been when he finally
1486
01:13:55,151 --> 01:13:58,600
dropped the Macho Man
persona and could be Randy Poffo.
1487
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:01,180
And I think that that might
have been a huge relief for him.
1488
01:14:01,820 --> 01:14:05,240
There's arguably no more tiring
character to play than Macho Man.
1489
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:07,140
I mean, just from a
physical voice standpoint.
1490
01:14:07,220 --> 01:14:09,208
You can't tell me there
weren't times when he was like, I
1491
01:14:09,209 --> 01:14:11,800
just want to not talk for three
days because my throat hurts.
1492
01:14:12,580 --> 01:14:16,480
Randy had reunited with
his high school sweetheart.
1493
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:18,720
To me, it was like
Randy had found peace.
1494
01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:24,080
I was at a heart doctor.
1495
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,320
I look up and there he is.
1496
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,460
He looks great.
1497
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,540
He's about 240 pounds.
1498
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:29,760
He's got his weight back.
1499
01:14:30,380 --> 01:14:31,260
He's smiling.
1500
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:31,860
He's happy.
1501
01:14:31,861 --> 01:14:33,060
Hey, Mach, what's up, man?
1502
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:33,500
I love you.
1503
01:14:33,501 --> 01:14:33,900
I miss you.
1504
01:14:33,980 --> 01:14:35,000
I love you too, brother.
1505
01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:36,856
I said, damn, you got
your wedding ring on.
1506
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,196
He goes, oh yeah,
I got remarried.
1507
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:38,940
I was so happy.
1508
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:39,740
He looked so great.
1509
01:14:39,780 --> 01:14:41,460
You could see the
glow coming off him.
1510
01:14:41,660 --> 01:14:44,160
He was at peace and he
was himself and he was happy.
1511
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,060
It kind of like made my life
to see how happy he was.
1512
01:14:47,180 --> 01:14:49,140
And he forgave me
for whatever I did.
1513
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:53,371
I remember my dad telling
us about Randy having met,
1514
01:14:53,372 --> 01:14:56,460
you know, back in the 70s,
a woman named Lynn Payne.
1515
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,480
And he had this relationship with
her before he ever met Miss Elizabeth.
1516
01:14:59,600 --> 01:14:59,740
Yeah.
1517
01:14:59,741 --> 01:15:04,160
In 1975, Randy had left baseball
and he and Lynn had broken up.
1518
01:15:04,340 --> 01:15:09,080
So it caused Randy to leave Florida
and get into professional wrestling.
1519
01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:16,060
Randy had told me that Lynn
was always the love of his life.
1520
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:19,520
They were sweethearts early on.
1521
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:22,226
And then, of course,
they went their own ways
1522
01:15:22,227 --> 01:15:25,641
and they found their
way back to each other.
1523
01:15:26,170 --> 01:15:27,140
And boom.
1524
01:15:27,141 --> 01:15:30,280
The stars never shone so bright.
1525
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,680
They get married on Lido Beach
where they had met 36 years before.
1526
01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:40,720
Just tell him that he
had just, he was zen.
1527
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:46,280
He was still macho, but
the pace was much different.
1528
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:50,700
You could just see that Randy had
kind of, you know, went full circle.
1529
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,280
So many of these
guys were so tormented.
1530
01:15:55,115 --> 01:15:56,500
And then you
hear that they died.
1531
01:15:57,140 --> 01:15:58,920
It's like the life of
a kamikaze pilot.
1532
01:15:59,310 --> 01:16:01,380
At least, you know,
Randy got to touch down.
1533
01:16:02,050 --> 01:16:03,400
Back on the carrier for a while.
1534
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,981
It was at the point of
relaxing and enjoying his
1535
01:16:08,982 --> 01:16:11,761
life with the woman that
he was supposed to be with.
1536
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,960
So he's just in the,
ready to just, ah.
1537
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,720
And he told me that, I got
my dogs, I got my house.
1538
01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:20,500
You know, I'm there.
1539
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:22,640
Randy?
1540
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,260
Getting back to this high
school sweetheart who
1541
01:16:25,261 --> 01:16:27,120
hadn't been around the
wrestling business ever.
1542
01:16:27,121 --> 01:16:28,860
She wasn't jaded, you know.
1543
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:33,260
And I think when he unplugged from this
crazy business, he fell back in a really
1544
01:16:33,261 --> 01:16:35,620
beautiful place that was
probably before he ever wrestled.
1545
01:16:35,860 --> 01:16:42,460
You young punks ain't got nothing on the
macho man Randy Savage and my generation.
1546
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,054
Randy Savage, at the
end of his life, left wrestling
1547
01:16:46,055 --> 01:16:49,700
in a way that I really
respected and I liked.
1548
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:51,340
Because he walked away from it.
1549
01:16:51,420 --> 01:16:53,100
He pulled a lot out of the WWE.
1550
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:54,680
Made a ton of money.
1551
01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:56,380
Had a hell of a ride.
1552
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,660
Circumstances being
what they are, man.
1553
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,900
A wonderful, wonderful life.
1554
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,520
They were coming back
from being at the store.
1555
01:17:07,065 --> 01:17:08,760
Randy was driving his Jeep.
1556
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,460
He said, I'm not
really feeling that well.
1557
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:14,060
I think I'd like to go home.
1558
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,500
And he started to
swerve out of his lane.
1559
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,180
And he pressed the gas.
1560
01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:29,260
Lynn had to steer.
1561
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,120
The Jeep was going to crash into
other vehicles, oncoming vehicles.
1562
01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:37,540
And cause all kinds
of other fatalities.
1563
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,240
So she steered the
Jeep into a tree to stop it.
1564
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,360
And Randy was pronounced
dead right there on the scene.
1565
01:17:46,810 --> 01:17:48,290
Some sad news to
report this morning.
1566
01:17:48,340 --> 01:17:52,700
Pro wrestling icon Randy Macho Man Savage
died Friday in a car crash in Florida.
1567
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:53,700
TMZ reports.
1568
01:17:53,701 --> 01:17:55,760
I get a message
from Largo Medical.
1569
01:17:56,180 --> 01:17:59,660
And that my brother and
his wife were in a car wreck.
1570
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,500
So I called up.
1571
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,460
And that's when they put
me on the phone with Lynn.
1572
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,320
And she explained
to me what happened.
1573
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:10,200
Police say Savage lost control of his
Jeep Wrangler about 9.30 this morning.
1574
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,200
His wife suffered
minor injuries.
1575
01:18:12,500 --> 01:18:15,240
Randy Macho Man Savage was 58.
1576
01:18:17,835 --> 01:18:19,952
My thought immediately
went to I wish I would
1577
01:18:19,953 --> 01:18:21,980
have shared some more
moments with Randy.
1578
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,560
Not so much of
in the ring stuff.
1579
01:18:24,740 --> 01:18:27,620
But just going out and
having a lunch or something.
1580
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,880
You know, to the
other side of Savage.
1581
01:18:32,420 --> 01:18:34,873
If I never would have
been able to meet with
1582
01:18:34,874 --> 01:18:37,100
Randy one last time
before he passed away.
1583
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:41,080
It would have probably been
something that would have haunted me.
1584
01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:45,623
I don't think I could
have really rationalized
1585
01:18:45,624 --> 01:18:48,801
it if I never got across
and saw him again.
1586
01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:50,920
He had a heart
attack while driving.
1587
01:18:50,921 --> 01:18:52,520
And that's a crazy way to die.
1588
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,760
But it's also a very
Macho Man way to die.
1589
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:57,460
You take a Jeep and a
heart attack into a tree.
1590
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,140
You're like, dude, what's up?
1591
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,280
You kind of wonder if
he negotiated that death.
1592
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,380
He's like, yeah, what
if the heart stops?
1593
01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:06,940
And then the Jeep
pops over the highway.
1594
01:19:07,140 --> 01:19:08,140
Yeah, right into a tree.
1595
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:10,220
And everyone's like,
that's a tough way to go.
1596
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:11,460
Very memorable.
1597
01:19:11,780 --> 01:19:12,240
You know?
1598
01:19:12,460 --> 01:19:14,380
As opposed to
just dying in a bed.
1599
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:16,360
It's a very Macho
Man way to die.
1600
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:17,460
I mean, it's a sad death.
1601
01:19:17,540 --> 01:19:19,220
I'm not taking
that away from it.
1602
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:19,660
But I'm saying.
1603
01:19:19,661 --> 01:19:23,640
As far as spots go, that's
a suplex off the top rope.
1604
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:29,160
For as many people as can be like,
oh, it's not a real sport, you know?
1605
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,240
It's just entertainment.
1606
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:32,096
By the way, I have a
big update for everyone.
1607
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,060
All sports is just
entertainment.
1608
01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:38,043
The value that these
athletes have is just
1609
01:19:38,044 --> 01:19:41,140
as great in culture as
a competitive athlete.
1610
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:43,760
In fact, with ones like Randy
Savage, they're greater.
1611
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,280
He gave us more than
physical entertainment.
1612
01:19:47,281 --> 01:19:49,780
He gave us himself as a person.
1613
01:19:51,970 --> 01:19:53,060
Snap into a Slim Jim.
1614
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,280
Oh, yeah.
1615
01:19:54,420 --> 01:19:55,880
Being in Spider-Man.
1616
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,054
I hope all of those things,
these cultural moments, added
1617
01:20:00,055 --> 01:20:03,420
up to something where he
knew, like, I was a big deal.
1618
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:04,560
I was meaningful.
1619
01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:08,958
It's crazy because there are
some people whose run as a
1620
01:20:08,959 --> 01:20:11,720
professional wrestler is
amazing because it lasts 20 years.
1621
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,520
Randy Savage, his run
was really seven years.
1622
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,260
But it's one of those things.
1623
01:20:17,261 --> 01:20:19,500
It's one of the greatest
seven-year runs of all time.
1624
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,940
History beckons the macho man.
1625
01:20:22,820 --> 01:20:23,820
He was different.
1626
01:20:23,980 --> 01:20:25,500
He wasn't like everybody else.
1627
01:20:25,660 --> 01:20:26,940
And who was the first man?
1628
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,540
The perfect way to describe
him, he was an enigma.
1629
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,800
The front page, the front
page, the headlines, yeah!
1630
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,580
How about a headlock?
1631
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,180
Can you repeat like that?
1632
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,120
Like watching an artist paint.
1633
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:41,920
He can take you
on that rollercoaster.
1634
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:43,100
He had psychology.
1635
01:20:43,460 --> 01:20:44,960
He had athleticism.
1636
01:20:45,140 --> 01:20:46,620
And he could tell a story.
1637
01:20:46,621 --> 01:20:47,940
That was him being that painter.
1638
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,460
I am the new kid
on the block, yeah!
1639
01:20:50,540 --> 01:20:53,720
Captured the imagination
of the WWE Universe.
1640
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:54,460
Truly did.
1641
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:55,720
Damn it, it was Slim Jim!
1642
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,526
A whole generation, probably
a few generations, have a piece
1643
01:21:00,527 --> 01:21:03,740
of him in their heart, in their
minds, in their memories.
1644
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:05,100
Oh yeah, brother!
1645
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:06,960
That was Hulk Hogan.
1646
01:21:07,460 --> 01:21:08,460
Oh yeah!
1647
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,700
Randy affected a lot of
people all over the world.
1648
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,600
You conjure up warm
feelings thinking about Randy.
1649
01:21:15,601 --> 01:21:18,960
He was very intense
and wanted to give his all.
1650
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,840
And I so respect
someone like that.
1651
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,995
You gotta clip by
a tie and I'll tell the
1652
01:21:23,996 --> 01:21:27,281
people that if you don't
shut up and sit down!
1653
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,820
Randy was the real deal.
1654
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:31,220
He loved this business.
1655
01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:34,480
He gave his heart and his soul
and everything to this business.
1656
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,820
And there'll never
be another like him.
1657
01:21:36,980 --> 01:21:40,260
Very few guys have this
in their blood and live it.
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