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I'm going to take my phone here.
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Roddy!
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Yeah, I'm doing great.
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How are you?
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I'm just getting ready to
do an interview about you.
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A little warm down there, huh?
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You what?
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I...
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Yeah, not anytime soon, though.
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You're holding a place for me.
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Right next to you
at the table, huh?
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Great.
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No, I'm just going
to talk about you.
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It's all good things
not to worry about it.
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But great.
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Thanks, Roddy.
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Roddy's in heaven.
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Roddy's not in hell.
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Coming to the WWE, I really wanted to make
sure that every single time that I walked
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out there, everyone
remembered Roddy, Roddy Piper.
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Roddy is the only name
I could have taken on.
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I wanted to make sure that that next
generation of kids knew who he was and
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respected his memory and what
he's contributed to the business.
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When I ran into Piper, he's the one
that made everything else possible.
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He was the key,
the cog in the wheel.
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Without Piper, we could have
never launched into the stratosphere.
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It's as simple as this.
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When our Pete talks,
brother, people listen.
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He was the ultimate bad guy.
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How you doing, fatso?
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He sold it.
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He packed it.
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He was good at what he did.
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Just when they think they got
the answers, I change the question.
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Even if you had never heard of Roddy Piper,
you could tell you didn't like this guy.
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Nobody messes with Piper!
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He was riveting.
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I've seen a lot of men buried!
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A really good-hearted guy,
a really tough son of a bitch.
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He was not like
any other wrestler.
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He was in his own world.
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Real strong family man.
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He kept his family
completely out of it.
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And I think he took too
much of it on himself.
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Everything he did from the moment he walked
out of the ring, rubbed people wrong.
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You're gonna see something
you've never seen in your life before!
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Whatever it was, he
went against the grain.
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And he just lived in that glory.
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You know, God takes
care of fools and babies.
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Before I was a pro wrestler,
I got hit by a pickup truck.
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I lived in an
Indian reservation.
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I had tonsillitis, so they
took out my appendix.
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I moved a lot.
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I got hurt a lot
as a little kid.
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My dad, Roddy Piper, he was born in
Canada, in a place called Saskatoon,
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Saskatchewan, which is one of
the coldest places in the world.
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He used to tell me, you know, the story of
running uphill both ways to school, right?
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In the snow?
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He actually did that.
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His dad was a police officer
that worked for the railroad.
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And this meant that
they traveled 24-7.
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They would spend a week in
one town, a week in the next.
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I think he was
about 10 years old.
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He was on an Indian
reservation for about six months.
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And he's the only
white kid on it.
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Everybody else is Indian, and they
don't like white people at the time.
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So he had to learn how to fight his
way through and get their respect.
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So every few months, no matter where
he was going, he would have to start over,
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build his reputation, and be the
tough guy so he wouldn't get hurt.
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He would go out and
get in trouble and come
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home and face all kinds
of physical punishment.
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It was a hard
Victorian upbringing.
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Very strict.
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Being the youngest, he
always kind of felt like he was
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an afterthought in his family
is what he would tell me.
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Like he wasn't expected.
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Not a lot of hugs.
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Not a lot of
verbal I love you's.
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My grandpa did beat my dad.
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I don't know how often, but he was
physical enough with him that it was a
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dark place that my dad never
really wanted to talk about with us.
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You're 12.
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11.
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10 years old.
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You move 10 times.
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Then all of a sudden
you get into a fight.
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You come back home and you get
into a fight because you got into a fight.
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You know, it's...
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I don't think that punishment, physical
punishment, is a way to raise a kid.
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None of it goes out
of my house ever.
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There was a lot of trauma in
his childhood and it followed him.
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He seemed like the kind of
person that always had a demon
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or something on his shoulder
and that he was fighting with.
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And I think that that started at a very,
very young age, long before wrestling.
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I got into my bagpipes a lot.
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And it kind of pulled me
away from everybody.
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I don't know how, but
that's where I started
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when I was six years
old playing the bagpipes.
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It was a place for me to go.
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It was loud.
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People knew, don't interrupt.
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It actually became
a hideaway for me.
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One day, I was in my house and
there was a knock at my back door.
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And there was two friends of
mine with this new guy, Rod.
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And so they said to me,
Cam, you're a pretty tough
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guy and this new guy,
Rod, he's a pretty tough guy.
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Why don't you have a fight?
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I said, sure.
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And we went at it.
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Like in the movies, he
drilled me a good one and I
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flew over top of my
motorcycle and he won the fight.
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As I found out later,
Rod told me he was the
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light heavyweight
boxing champ in Toronto.
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And from that point on,
we became best friends.
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He was a high school wrestler
and he was number two in the city.
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That was his goal,
was to be a wrestler.
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And he did graduate school.
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He finally did leave home.
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He would have liked a better
relationship with his father, you know?
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That was eating him up.
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As Rod became a
young adult, it just became
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too much because Rod
wanted to get rough back.
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The only other choice would be to
have an all-out brawl with your father.
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He left home and
was out on his own.
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It's just time to go.
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So I took my bagpipes
and I just never went back.
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He was really a nomad.
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He went to youth hostels,
YMCAs, anywhere,
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usually back then,
five bucks for the night.
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And you could do it or
you'd get there and it'd
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be full so you would be
on the street that night.
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I had to make money,
so I played my bagpipes
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and I'd get quarters or
whatever they give me.
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You sleep during the day.
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It's too dangerous
to sleep at nighttime.
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At nighttime you get cold,
you get hungry, and so
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you start to try to feed
some of these necessities.
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I started stealing what I needed
and then got with a group of bad guys.
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You know, all of a
sudden you're carrying a
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switchblade and, you
know, and then the fights.
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Now I was getting off on this
bully type of thing, which I hated.
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He was beaten up.
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He was made fun of.
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Half of those beatings were because
somebody was trying to sexually abuse him.
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And you fight back.
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You know, I think he
did a little robbery here
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and there and he was
terribly ashamed of it.
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It was a brief part of his life.
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He also would fight.
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People would pay to see him fight on the
street, doing whatever it takes to survive.
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I was living in a youth hostel.
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This is Father O'Malley,
you know, he says, you know,
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Roderick, have you ever
seen professional wrestling?
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I said, no, sir.
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He says, I can get you $25.
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You know, that was
like three months' rent.
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He was 15 years old
when he had his first
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professional fight against
Larry the Axe Henning.
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Larry Henning coming into the ring... You
know, Rod, he knew that he needed an angle.
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I don't believe at that time he'd
come up with Rowdy Roddy Piper.
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His name was Rod Toombs,
so he went by that name.
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I don't know how many wrestlers
can play the bagpipes and has kilts.
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So that's what he did
to distinguish himself
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based on the talent
that he actually had.
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The announcer, he just
knew my name was Roddy.
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He had to announce
something and he says, ladies
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and gentlemen, here
comes Roddy the Piper.
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He was just naturally good at it and
then that evolved into his wrestling career
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since it was a special skill
that he could use as a gimmick.
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People would stand up and
say, you know, and yell at him.
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That was his goal was to
get people pissed off at him.
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So they're gonna look in
the program, who is this guy?
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My nose is broke, you
know, and Larry only hit me
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twice, but he did a good
job and I was drooping.
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He says, kid, how'd you
like to go to Kansas City?
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And that's how I got into pro
wrestling and I never stopped.
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He knew that there was gonna be many
days that he didn't know where the next
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paycheck was coming and
so he just threw himself at it.
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That took him all across Canada.
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And then into the States, and
just wherever he could get a job.
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When wrestling came along,
that's why I just went home.
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Because it had all the
elements without the police.
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There were more than two dozen
wrestling territories in North America.
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So that meant that
guys could make a living
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uprooting, going from
territory to territory.
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I'm so fortunate to have
wrestling and the way it evolved.
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If it hadn't, I would have
been dead in North America.
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I would not have bought it.
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I've got a baby face
that looks 12 in a dress
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playing bagpipes and
they just beat me up.
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So when you're
just getting in, you're
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breaking into pro
wrestling, what do you do?
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They beat you up and you have to
continuously get up and keep coming back.
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I got my first break in
Los Angeles and holy cow.
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Really, really
brutal, brutal days.
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Roddy came into the gym.
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He says, what are you doing?
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You going to sweep up the place or
sell hot doggies, chicken on a bun?
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He says, no, I'm a wrestler.
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And I says, you look like
you got polio in your stomach.
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You're so small.
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You'll never make it.
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You got to learn how to wrestle.
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So you could be
a sadistic bastard.
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We're going to see things
that are different that's
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never been seen before,
ever, ever on any film.
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Don't protest.
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Don't practice this without a
qualified instructor right there with you.
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Judo Gene, if you don't know, look him
up, was the toughest man in the world.
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Trained Bruce Lee, Chuck
Norris, Rowdy Ronda Rousey.
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Gene LaBelle, I would consider the
most decorated stuntman of all time.
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He was in the first ever
televised MMA event.
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When I was doing Judo, he
would help me a lot and when I got
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into MMA, he was in my
corner for like every single match.
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Judo Gene saw that
these guys were bullying me
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and Gene would tell
me what to do on the fly.
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You gotta beat him with
the dark side of the moon.
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Rowdy say, well, what's
the dark side of the moon?
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Well, what the referee
doesn't see didn't happen.
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Watch you don't
make the eyes out.
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Throat's a great handle.
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He'd call me late at night and my wife
said, hey, it must be Roddy calling again.
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So he says, hey, let's
go roll for a couple hours.
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We worked out hard.
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No playing games.
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He wanted to know
how to wrestle.
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The LaBelle family
is their legendary.
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They ran the Olympic auditorium and
because dad had earned their respect,
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he was able then to wrestle
there in LA for the LaBelle family.
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And that is really where dad got the
chance to spread his wings and really
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become not just another fighter,
but the one they came to see.
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One of my favorite
memories with him is when I
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was like 15, he brought
me to LA to see Hollywood.
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And I wanted to be
an actress and singer.
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And so to me, Hollywood
was like, woo, Marilyn
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Monroe handprints and
glamour and all of that.
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And we get here, he
rents a car and he's like,
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all right, kid, I'm going
to take you around town.
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First thing he does is
he goes somewhere.
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Somewhere into like
the Compton maybe area.
241
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I was a little young to
understand what I was looking at.
242
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And he was like, that's where
your father slept on the streets.
243
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A woman got murdered
right outside my window.
244
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But I didn't say anything
because I'm not a snitch.
245
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It's just telling me
these horrific stories.
246
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So then I come home
from that vacation.
247
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My friends asked me,
they're like, how's Hollywood?
248
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And I was like, they're like,
did you see this and that?
249
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I was like, I think I
got the wrestler's tour.
250
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And I was like,
251
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I was born and grew
up in Los Angeles.
252
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Some of my earliest memories
that I have are actually about
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professional wrestling, being
a professional wrestling fan.
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I can remember going down on the bus
running with my stepfather trying to catch
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a bus to go down to
the Olympic auditorium.
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In 1976, one of the
new faces in the territory
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was a young lad by the
name of Roddy Piper.
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He was 21 years old.
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He was a young, fresh faced kid.
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Fans give him a light applause.
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They start wrestling and it
starts out as a clean match.
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But little by little,
subtly, he starts doing
263
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these things that
only a villain would do.
264
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He was fighting and he
was giving people kicks
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00:14:09,486 --> 00:14:12,421
to the groin during
this wrestling match.
266
00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,660
It was like watching a caterpillar
transform into a butterfly.
267
00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,920
And you just saw this magic
happening before your eyes.
268
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People were booing Roddy Piper.
269
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They absolutely
hated who he was.
270
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I am the intelligence.
271
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I think the most controversial
thing I did was stir up controversy.
272
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Because it draws money.
273
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Conflict draws money.
274
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The wheels are
always turning for him.
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I said, what can I say?
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What can I do next?
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00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,796
Because you had to
keep them interested.
278
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You had to keep
them coming back.
279
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There's no way, Piper!
280
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Hey!
281
00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:47,780
Piper!
282
00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,900
Anything he did, he
wanted to be good at it.
283
00:14:51,155 --> 00:14:52,915
I don't plan to go in
there and make it easy.
284
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,720
I don't plan to go in there and not have
some knocks on my own knocking bell.
285
00:14:56,930 --> 00:15:00,583
And they used him to
do the interviews because
286
00:15:00,584 --> 00:15:04,500
he would showboat and
help sell boletos, tickets.
287
00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,360
You're a pink Guerrero!
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00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:12,180
Your father was and
you're a pink Guerrero!
289
00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:16,580
The Guerrero family was one of the
first families in professional wrestling.
290
00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:19,920
If you're of Latino descent,
you didn't really see
291
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a lot of faces on television
that were like yours.
292
00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,111
And usually if you did,
they played the roles
293
00:15:25,112 --> 00:15:27,661
of a gardener or they
played the role of a maid.
294
00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:33,940
So for us to see the Guerrero family
in hero roles was very important.
295
00:15:35,255 --> 00:15:36,255
We worshiped them.
296
00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,276
You get in that ring, Chavo Guerrero,
and it's going to be all over for you,
297
00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,376
brother, because I don't give
a damn about nothing no more.
298
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,660
When Roddy Piper would insult the
Guerreros, we took it very personally.
299
00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,226
You sitting at home with
your fat bellies and your
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00:15:49,227 --> 00:15:52,840
construction boats drinking
your beer, you know who I am!
301
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,000
Roddy really had
the whole package.
302
00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,941
In the ring, he was a dirty wrestler, but
he had all this tremendous frenetic energy.
303
00:16:00,340 --> 00:16:02,960
But also, he knew how to
get a reaction out of the fans.
304
00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,460
And one of the ways he would do that
was to bring his bagpipes out to the ring.
305
00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,540
One time, he told everybody
and silenced the entire stadium.
306
00:16:12,175 --> 00:16:17,120
He'd play the Mexican national anthem
to apologize for attacking the Guerreros.
307
00:16:18,225 --> 00:16:20,580
I said, you know,
I love you people.
308
00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,580
I'd like to do
something special.
309
00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:29,880
And all the wonderful Hispanic
people came in and I'm in the ring.
310
00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:37,160
And please stand for the
Mexican national anthem.
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00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:47,500
Just like this, I said to myself,
I put those bagpipes up, man.
312
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:49,230
It's too late, right?
313
00:16:49,930 --> 00:16:51,330
And Roddy starts
playing his notes.
314
00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:55,240
And it's not the Mexican national
anthem, but he starts playing La Cucaracha.
315
00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,980
He starts playing a
song about a cockroach.
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00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,740
La cucaracha, la
cucaracha, little funny little.
317
00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:10,600
Holy cow, Chairs were
bolted down in the cement.
318
00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:12,160
Here they come.
319
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,700
And the fans,
320
00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,760
they're just shocked.
321
00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:19,300
Chairs come up.
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00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,500
Things are being thrown.
323
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,140
Stages being overcome.
324
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,860
It was like watching a
car wreck, you know?
325
00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,451
It's a horrible thing I've
seen the scene, but at
326
00:17:26,452 --> 00:17:28,300
the same time you can't
take your eyes away from it.
327
00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,460
I was there that night, and I
was going to whiz in my pants.
328
00:17:35,140 --> 00:17:36,640
You can't write
that kind of stuff.
329
00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:38,920
I said, this guy is a natural.
330
00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,380
You had to move around,
especially as a bad guy.
331
00:17:53,880 --> 00:18:00,200
You would run your course, and then you
needed to go on and find another place to
332
00:18:00,201 --> 00:18:04,340
go and stake your claim for a while, and
then you would move on somewhere else.
333
00:18:04,341 --> 00:18:10,200
I am extremely pleased to
take my wonderful trophy.
334
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,380
Once I left Los Angeles, and I went
to Portland, nobody knew who I was.
335
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,180
So you had to
start all over again.
336
00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:26,450
32nd birthday gift.
337
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:29,390
31.
338
00:18:29,730 --> 00:18:30,210
32.
339
00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:31,710
Did you find the choke?
340
00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:32,170
Yeah.
341
00:18:32,290 --> 00:18:35,410
Okay, kick the engine over,
leaving the throttle closed.
342
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:38,910
It's probably just new.
343
00:18:38,970 --> 00:18:40,010
It takes a lot of control.
344
00:18:40,011 --> 00:18:41,011
It takes a lot of kicks.
345
00:18:41,790 --> 00:18:43,770
I met Roddy in 1979.
346
00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:49,530
I was working graveyard shift as a
waitress, just southwest side of Portland.
347
00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:55,210
Roderick, you're lucky I had it
high enough that that didn't show.
348
00:18:57,410 --> 00:18:59,990
He was the funniest
human being on the planet.
349
00:19:00,650 --> 00:19:01,650
Is that it?
350
00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:05,770
Oh, the guy, all the wrinkles
on my face are from him.
351
00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:06,910
Him making me laugh.
352
00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:09,110
I was young.
353
00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:10,310
I was nine years old.
354
00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:14,050
And so all the other waitresses would
say, you go wait on those wrestlers.
355
00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,170
Prime rib was
always what he got.
356
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:19,750
He got two, ordered two prime ribs
and always two pieces of lemon pie.
357
00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:23,410
He started asking me, hey,
can I have your phone number?
358
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:24,510
I'd like to ask you out.
359
00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:27,670
I thought he was cute as heck.
360
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:28,946
I thought he was cute as heck.
361
00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:31,630
But the crowd he
was with was so loud.
362
00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:34,390
And so I'm like, nah,
you know, hey, hi, hi.
363
00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:38,290
And so we kind of flirted, but after
about a month, his tag team partner,
364
00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:39,990
Killer Brooks, got down there.
365
00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:40,670
He's down on his knees.
366
00:19:40,790 --> 00:19:42,630
And he says, please give
him your phone number.
367
00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:45,311
I'm his tag team partner,
and I'm getting beat to
368
00:19:45,312 --> 00:19:47,870
heck out there because
he's only thinking about you.
369
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:49,110
He wants to get to know you.
370
00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,230
So I said, OK, I'll take
his phone number.
371
00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:54,070
And then we hit it off.
372
00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:03,630
Portland wrestling in the late
70s and early 80s was huge.
373
00:20:04,050 --> 00:20:05,690
The buildings were
always packed.
374
00:20:06,430 --> 00:20:09,180
From the moment I started
dating him, anywhere we would
375
00:20:09,181 --> 00:20:10,090
go, people would come in
and say, hey, what's your name?
376
00:20:10,091 --> 00:20:11,171
And people knew who he was.
377
00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,450
Everyone pretty much
had the same reaction.
378
00:20:13,550 --> 00:20:14,550
They were shocked.
379
00:20:14,650 --> 00:20:20,751
But after they met him, they all understood
that he was a genuine guy and caring.
380
00:20:24,850 --> 00:20:30,390
And to have to do something like when he
attacked a woman wrestler, he has to do it
381
00:20:30,391 --> 00:20:33,990
over the top because
it's so hard for him to do.
382
00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:37,190
This is why men wrestle
and why women don't.
383
00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:38,250
This is why.
384
00:20:40,550 --> 00:20:44,630
For Roddy, in real life, a
woman is on a pedestal.
385
00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:47,370
It's very old fashioned.
386
00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:49,950
You would never hit a woman.
387
00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:50,670
You would never.
388
00:20:50,790 --> 00:20:51,910
insult a woman.
389
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:56,930
And I decided early on, I was
going to love Roddy no matter what.
390
00:20:57,450 --> 00:21:02,230
I did and I do and wouldn't
change it for the world.
391
00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:12,230
In Portland, it was
a smaller territory.
392
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:13,190
closet.
393
00:21:13,191 --> 00:21:15,530
In Atlanta, the
business was growing.
394
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:21,070
You had to move around, and you had to
be able to go from territory to territory.
395
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,490
That's the way that the
business worked at the time.
396
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,630
They called me
on the East Coast.
397
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:29,370
I was ready at any time to
get up and take a left-hand turn.
398
00:21:29,670 --> 00:21:32,870
And I drove the old yellow
Canary right across the country.
399
00:21:38,490 --> 00:21:41,830
WTBS in Atlanta, Georgia,
Ted Turner's Superstation.
400
00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:44,210
Wrestling was a staple.
401
00:21:46,810 --> 00:21:48,050
Here's Roddy Piper.
402
00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:51,390
Very few people knew who
he was on a national basis.
403
00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,910
He wasn't the biggest guy
in the world, but the one
404
00:21:54,911 --> 00:21:58,430
thing that he did better
than anybody else was talk.
405
00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:00,690
It's a pleasure for
you to have me here.
406
00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:03,490
I'm sure you see, being
the expert that I am...
407
00:22:03,491 --> 00:22:08,217
The promoter realized
Roddy knew how to tell a story,
408
00:22:08,218 --> 00:22:12,030
not just his own story,
but other people's stories.
409
00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:13,970
People want to
get familiar with me.
410
00:22:14,050 --> 00:22:18,010
He was brought in as Rod
Piper, the color commentator.
411
00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:20,290
Sport coat, no-kill.
412
00:22:20,530 --> 00:22:25,750
And then the color commentator
began to skew his views.
413
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,850
You got a big, big, big mouth.
414
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:32,630
They let a bald-headed geek like
you... Maybe a little bit more nasty.
415
00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:35,150
You just stay out
of my way, pig face.
416
00:22:35,290 --> 00:22:38,270
Maybe a little bit more
against the fan favorites.
417
00:22:38,430 --> 00:22:40,130
And you won't have
to worry about nothing.
418
00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:40,690
Nothing, man.
419
00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:41,810
Pig face.
420
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:47,530
And they created another
way to get this character over.
421
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:51,110
They say sticks and stones may break
my bones, but words will never hurt me.
422
00:22:51,130 --> 00:22:54,370
Well, some of the words he said about
me and my family have hurt me deeply.
423
00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:56,126
Sticks and stones
may break your bones.
424
00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:57,150
You are right!
425
00:22:57,910 --> 00:23:00,410
And I'm nuts enough to
throw sticks and stones!
426
00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:04,750
Now you've got... I even
kicked that commentator's butt.
427
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:09,610
The commentator was a
wrestler and a tough guy.
428
00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:11,546
He got too close to the
ropes and they go in!
429
00:23:11,570 --> 00:23:13,450
Now he comes out with the kill.
430
00:23:13,550 --> 00:23:14,990
A wild man, Roddy Piper!
431
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:16,850
Now he's Roddy Piper.
432
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:19,264
Roddy Piper, the only
way that he's really been
433
00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:22,211
outstanding in this match
is his bad sportsmanship.
434
00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:26,010
They're trying to literally
carry Piper out of the ring.
435
00:23:26,290 --> 00:23:27,850
I told you, Piper pays back!
436
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:30,990
I told you, nobody
messes with Piper!
437
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:35,650
When he wrestles as a bad guy,
that was the most comfortable for him.
438
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:38,230
Come out here right now
and fight me like a man!
439
00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:39,210
Come right now!
440
00:23:39,211 --> 00:23:43,150
If you're a bad guy, fans aren't going to
come up and shake your hand as much.
441
00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:46,970
He could be alone
more if he was a bad guy.
442
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:52,931
Maybe because he was alone in life early on
so often, that's where he was comfortable.
443
00:23:56,770 --> 00:24:01,170
As a kid, he was around some of
the roughest people you can imagine.
444
00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:04,697
And sometimes I wonder
if that's part of what
445
00:24:04,698 --> 00:24:07,670
pieced together that bad
guy psychology that he had.
446
00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:09,550
I am the legend killer.
447
00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:13,950
So my dad did this thing.
448
00:24:14,170 --> 00:24:16,330
There were these yellow
legal pads that he would write.
449
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:18,290
He would write
all kinds of ideas.
450
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,214
Just in case he had the
opportunity that a mic was
451
00:24:21,215 --> 00:24:23,551
handed to him so that he
had something great to say.
452
00:24:23,610 --> 00:24:26,730
You know you couldn't get a date with
a hundred dollar bill on your forehead.
453
00:24:26,890 --> 00:24:31,110
I wouldn't fight you if my grandma
was threatened by the Huns.
454
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:35,170
Sometimes maybe I heard it in
the middle of a rock and roll song.
455
00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:39,070
Just had a knack for putting
that kind of stuff together.
456
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:42,070
Of course I don't have to impress
somebody, they gotta impress me.
457
00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:44,230
Because I'm Roddy
Piper and you're not.
458
00:24:44,385 --> 00:24:47,730
And that's why he was so quick-witted
because he put in work nobody else did.
459
00:24:48,165 --> 00:24:51,214
When everybody else was
partying and drinking, which he
460
00:24:51,215 --> 00:24:53,591
did, he also was thinking
and writing these things down.
461
00:24:53,675 --> 00:24:56,610
Like sometimes people say to me, you just
say what comes off the top of your head.
462
00:24:56,975 --> 00:24:58,350
Oh f***ing horse s***.
463
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,790
You have no idea how
much work went into it.
464
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,886
I seen a lot of men
married wearing a $50
465
00:25:05,887 --> 00:25:09,831
Stetson and carrying a
five buck gun you geek.
466
00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:14,190
There was a guy named
Rick Flair on the East Coast.
467
00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:17,530
The greatest wrestler
in the whole entire wide
468
00:25:17,531 --> 00:25:19,930
world comes right out
of the mid-Atlantic area.
469
00:25:20,150 --> 00:25:22,450
And Roddy Piper and I
are glad to be here brother.
470
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:25,590
Rick and I were so different, you
know, I wear a kilt, Rick doesn't.
471
00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:27,310
He's blonde, I ain't.
472
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:32,150
That we got along real
well outside the ring.
473
00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:34,950
And then everything
started to get out of control.
474
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:38,108
Piper and Flair have
formed a pact and where
475
00:25:38,109 --> 00:25:40,710
there's trouble, we
won't be hard to find.
476
00:25:40,711 --> 00:25:41,450
He's got a belt!
477
00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:41,810
Yes!
478
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:44,910
Well I knew, yeah I heard his name
but I didn't know anything about him.
479
00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:49,670
He came in the studio and I knew
right away I was going to like him.
480
00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:52,550
He was full of himself
and man, I mean talent.
481
00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:54,150
Rick Flair, Roddy Piper!
482
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:55,710
There goes Joey Piper!
483
00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:57,330
That's what it's all about!
484
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:58,870
God, he was entertaining.
485
00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,770
It was so good that it
made everybody mad.
486
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:07,230
You're going to find it's a whole lot
easier to jump on than it is to jump off.
487
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:11,918
I had moved over there
to the East Coast with
488
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:15,391
Roddy and we were
expecting our first child.
489
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:17,370
It was very rowdy times.
490
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:22,910
Roddy and Rick and other wrestlers,
they lived on a planet that was theirs.
491
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:27,115
They were a wild, wild
pair of men and lots of
492
00:26:27,116 --> 00:26:30,410
drinking and hotels
getting damaged and such.
493
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:33,736
Next thing I remember,
I'm in my bed, my clothes
494
00:26:33,737 --> 00:26:35,950
are on, the doors
knocked off the hinges.
495
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,210
I didn't know what happened.
496
00:26:37,211 --> 00:26:38,790
I got the hell out of here.
497
00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:43,190
You hear things, you know some
things, you don't know a lot of things.
498
00:26:44,110 --> 00:26:47,430
Roddy was Roddy
and that's what it was.
499
00:26:47,710 --> 00:26:51,650
We like our kamikazes on
ice and our women on fire.
500
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:52,906
You understand what I'm saying?
501
00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:58,310
And everywhere we go, we do it
better, longer, harder than anybody else!
502
00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:00,950
We were the Beatles, man.
503
00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:03,550
It was suicidal
putting us together.
504
00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:05,990
Ingesting or drinking.
505
00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:07,490
Anything.
506
00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:09,690
Roddy could beat
anybody to the draw.
507
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:13,010
It just got way out of hand.
508
00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:17,150
This is where Ric Flair started
the, you know, 99 kamikazes.
509
00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:19,950
And you know, here I'm like a
fool, you know, I'm pretty hardcore,
510
00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:21,190
man, pretty hardcore.
511
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,950
I'm drinking mine and I'll be
the one I always get in trouble.
512
00:27:24,550 --> 00:27:28,430
It was a time to make money,
but it was go, go, go, go, go.
513
00:27:28,570 --> 00:27:30,628
And you get three days
off and then you come
514
00:27:30,629 --> 00:27:33,631
back on the road for
another couple of weeks.
515
00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:35,730
And I remember we were
driving in a snowstorm.
516
00:27:35,731 --> 00:27:37,790
You know, we had beers
and everything in the car.
517
00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:40,467
So we got out and we're
all taking a leak on the side
518
00:27:40,468 --> 00:27:42,730
of the road and all of a
sudden Roddy ran to the car.
519
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:46,470
And I remember it's like we ran after him
because we knew that Roddy was in one of
520
00:27:46,471 --> 00:27:49,570
those kind of states of mind
where he was going to take the car.
521
00:27:49,930 --> 00:27:52,810
We pretty much tackled Roddy while
he was trying to drive off in the car.
522
00:27:52,910 --> 00:27:55,670
He was a tough guy to handle.
523
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,950
He was a heavy party.
524
00:27:58,230 --> 00:28:00,479
And I would scoop him
up and I'd make sure
525
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,610
he got to where he was
supposed to be going.
526
00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:05,390
Got him to his rooms
and got him to the hotel.
527
00:28:05,391 --> 00:28:07,150
And got him to the airports.
528
00:28:07,910 --> 00:28:10,390
You go out there and
wrestle for 45 minutes.
529
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:14,870
And you come back, take a shower
and you're wide frigging awake.
530
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,570
And a lot of times I'd look at the
coke and I don't want to do this.
531
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:21,390
But you end up doing it.
532
00:28:21,630 --> 00:28:24,410
It was I need this to
wake up to wrestle.
533
00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:26,446
I need this to go to bed
because I work in an hour.
534
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:26,990
This is all I have.
535
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,390
It was also about
to numb the pain.
536
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,840
The physical pain.
537
00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:31,910
The pain of being alone.
538
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,990
Always having
to be in transition.
539
00:28:34,991 --> 00:28:37,210
You know, you're
never sitting still.
540
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:40,990
It's a vicious cycle that
would just go round and round.
541
00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:43,110
It's easier to go have a drink.
542
00:28:43,290 --> 00:28:45,250
It's easier to go take a
pill or go smoke a joint.
543
00:28:46,210 --> 00:28:49,750
Back in those days, any
injury could cost you your job.
544
00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:53,770
If you can't do it, they replace you a
few minutes later with somebody else.
545
00:28:54,730 --> 00:28:56,250
You learn to be
your own doctors.
546
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:58,860
That's kind of the sad thing
is you're your own doctor.
547
00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:01,100
Roddy was pretty out of control.
548
00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:04,830
Laura knows what kind of drugs
and alcohol were being consumed.
549
00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:07,390
Uh, come here, Mom.
550
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:10,230
This is physical.
551
00:29:13,390 --> 00:29:18,910
Having Roddy travel so often and be
gone so much, and having a growing family,
552
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,870
it was very difficult.
553
00:29:22,505 --> 00:29:29,670
When you live like we did, you know, 3,000
miles a week, you become desensitized.
554
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Say Merry Christmas.
555
00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:32,950
Merry Christmas.
556
00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:33,570
Merry Christmas.
557
00:29:33,571 --> 00:29:39,730
One thing that Roddy did, he kept
his family completely out of business.
558
00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:43,250
Because he didn't want them
to see what he went through.
559
00:29:44,010 --> 00:29:47,190
He wanted them to grow up and
be beautiful and healthy and happy.
560
00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:50,650
And I think he took too
much of it on himself.
561
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:57,050
Sometimes when Rod would come home from
the road, he wouldn't come straight home.
562
00:29:57,170 --> 00:30:00,033
He would check into a
hotel room and just get
563
00:30:00,113 --> 00:30:02,590
rested because when he
got home, he couldn't rest.
564
00:30:02,591 --> 00:30:04,490
I'd like to know where mine is.
565
00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:06,530
Uh, to Barnacle Bell?
566
00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:11,830
He's almost had to do a transition
mentally when he came from the road to
567
00:30:11,831 --> 00:30:14,071
home because he didn't want
to bring that character home.
568
00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:15,990
He had such a hot
temper as Hot Rod.
569
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,830
And he had to because
he had to be on guard a lot.
570
00:30:19,930 --> 00:30:21,390
It was very separate.
571
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:25,030
He didn't like to take
us to a lot of events.
572
00:30:26,035 --> 00:30:29,285
We were very concerned
about safety because of
573
00:30:29,286 --> 00:30:32,570
how much aggression
was being put towards him.
574
00:30:32,571 --> 00:30:32,950
Rod.
575
00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:35,510
Snuka goes after
Piper and Orton.
576
00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:39,150
He'd been a villain in the
Deep South and fighting
577
00:30:39,151 --> 00:30:41,370
fans and, you know,
getting assault charges.
578
00:30:41,670 --> 00:30:45,510
I mean, I can think of a few situations
with Roddy with fans trying to run us off
579
00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:48,310
the road and chasing
us in cities like Detroit.
580
00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:52,430
People would throw thumbtacks
in the ring, hit with beer bottles.
581
00:30:52,670 --> 00:30:55,590
In Asheville, North Carolina, I threw
a rattlesnake in the ring one night.
582
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:59,070
Guy ran down to the ringside with
a gunny sack, threw a rattlesnake.
583
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:04,526
It was a lot of crazy
fans back then, and being
584
00:31:04,527 --> 00:31:06,630
a bad guy could be a
very dangerous living.
585
00:31:06,850 --> 00:31:08,330
I'm gonna shove
it down your throat!
586
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:11,189
There's certainly times when
I'd see him say or do something
587
00:31:11,289 --> 00:31:14,210
on TV where I'm like, oh,
my gosh, we're in for it now.
588
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:16,270
This is gonna get worse
before it gets better.
589
00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:20,242
But I never asked
him to curtail or tone it
590
00:31:20,243 --> 00:31:24,151
down because that
would hinder his creativity.
591
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:28,250
The people wanted to kill me.
592
00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:31,110
I remember there was
a gentleman I could...
593
00:31:31,111 --> 00:31:36,591
I wasn't really paying much attention, but
Roddy went taking it off down this hallway.
594
00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:39,830
And the next thing I see,
I'm having some words.
595
00:31:40,390 --> 00:31:42,870
And the police
got involved in it.
596
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:47,810
He did have a big knife,
you know, like a Bowie knife.
597
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,310
So, finally, their officer said, Mr. Piper,
we've got him, he's going to jail.
598
00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:55,610
They said, well, I just wanted to
have a couple seconds with him.
599
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:56,900
The officer said, why?
600
00:31:57,170 --> 00:31:59,050
And he said, because
he stabbed me.
601
00:31:59,070 --> 00:32:03,221
And Roddy took his thumb
off of his chest and the blood
602
00:32:03,222 --> 00:32:07,650
started squirting in the
officer's face at every heartbeat.
603
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:08,990
It was going.
604
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:11,030
And I went, oh.
605
00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:15,150
Sergeant Slaughter took me to
the hospital and held the wound.
606
00:32:15,610 --> 00:32:21,630
The doctor said, if that would have went
one more half inch or less, you'd be dead.
607
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:23,370
So, what was it like?
608
00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:25,170
It was a living hell.
609
00:32:26,170 --> 00:32:28,910
It wasn't just, you're a
bad guy on TV and that's it.
610
00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:30,146
It followed you everywhere.
611
00:32:30,170 --> 00:32:31,950
Dad was stabbed
three times in his life.
612
00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:35,730
Three times they actually stabbed him
to the point where he had a leather jacket
613
00:32:35,731 --> 00:32:40,591
that was Kevlar-lined and it was stab-proof
because he'd been stabbed so many times.
614
00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:45,870
He was the next generation
to take it to the next level.
615
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:50,190
What a tremendous
match to have live.
616
00:32:50,620 --> 00:32:55,290
Millions of fans everywhere can see Greg
Valentine and Roddy Piper go at each other.
617
00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:59,790
Me and Piper started out a long,
long time a long, long journey.
618
00:33:01,090 --> 00:33:03,270
We'd probably wrestled
each other for a year.
619
00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:06,870
We just walloped each other.
620
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:15,300
I took Piper's head and
rammed it into the turnbuckle.
621
00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,280
Every time I'd go out
there, I'd beat on his ear.
622
00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:23,020
Wham!
623
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,180
So I ended up naming
it the Year of the Ear.
624
00:33:28,460 --> 00:33:29,280
Let him go to that ear.
625
00:33:29,281 --> 00:33:30,020
And I'd laugh.
626
00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:30,980
Ha, ha, ha!
627
00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:32,900
The Year of the Ear!
628
00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:38,640
And then finally,
they want to blow it off.
629
00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:39,780
End it.
630
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:46,500
What happened was Bruno Sammartino and
Larry Zbysko did $500,000 in Shea Stadium.
631
00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:50,680
So it became a war of the
North against the South.
632
00:33:50,681 --> 00:33:54,020
So the South said, all right, we're going
to put on the first pay-per-view ever.
633
00:33:54,730 --> 00:33:58,960
So they come to me and they said,
I want you to make up the meanest,
634
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,220
nastiest, most brutal match
you can possibly think of.
635
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:06,600
And Piper came up
with this dog collar.
636
00:34:06,930 --> 00:34:08,120
40 pounds of change.
637
00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:09,340
I want you to check it out.
638
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,700
You're going to see something
you've never seen in your life before.
639
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,160
It was a great idea.
640
00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:15,220
It was my birthday.
641
00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:16,380
Oh, what is this?
642
00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:17,380
This is beautiful.
643
00:34:17,381 --> 00:34:18,940
They presented me
with this big cake.
644
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:20,060
I love cake.
645
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,720
Wait a minute.
646
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,440
What is this?
647
00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:24,900
I look at it and I see
some steel in there.
648
00:34:25,345 --> 00:34:27,780
And I reached down and
pulled out a dog collar.
649
00:34:27,781 --> 00:34:30,080
What are you doing?
650
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:31,920
What are you trying to do to me?
651
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,820
He wants to have
a dog collar match.
652
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,620
Piper was the best.
653
00:34:37,850 --> 00:34:38,850
The best performer.
654
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Good at the mic.
655
00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:42,140
Probably number one at the mic.
656
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,320
Some people said he
sounded like Daffy Duck.
657
00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:46,260
I love Daffy Duck.
658
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,268
You're talking about
the biggest thing that's
659
00:34:49,269 --> 00:34:51,380
ever going to happen
in the history of wrestling.
660
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:55,840
Ladies and gentlemen, our next event
of the evening is a very special match.
661
00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:57,760
This is a competition.
662
00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:58,120
A dog collar match.
663
00:34:58,580 --> 00:35:02,180
It was the very first
pay-per-view ever for wrestling.
664
00:35:03,740 --> 00:35:07,100
Two men linked together
like this in Mortal Kombat.
665
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,680
This is a strategy.
666
00:35:09,185 --> 00:35:11,100
This is what Piper
talked to me about.
667
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,380
And then I see I'm
the first one to get mad.
668
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:16,100
Exactly as a hip as
we have talked about.
669
00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:18,500
He could use it
to batter the guy.
670
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,400
Now he's going to
get me in the teeth.
671
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,480
Right there.
672
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,960
I had to go to the
dentist the next day.
673
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,200
And you can see the concern.
674
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,860
Look at the people
watching this match.
675
00:35:26,861 --> 00:35:30,460
They really don't know what to expect
when two men are going at it like this.
676
00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:31,900
Now I'm going for the ear.
677
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,840
Look at Valentine
pounding on it now.
678
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:38,180
It was a ridiculously
hard match.
679
00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:40,580
It was one of the toughest
match probably ever been in.
680
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Especially with Valentine.
681
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:42,840
Shane is a whip.
682
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:44,860
Valentine on his knees.
683
00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:46,440
Heart blow to the
top of the head.
684
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:48,380
You know, I'm not just selling.
685
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,440
I'm hurt.
686
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120
But it's all for you
wrestling fans.
687
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,340
Giving you our love
in a strange way.
688
00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:00,880
This is the end
of it right there.
689
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:06,660
Valentine... He was
the greatest of all time.
690
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,160
A really good hearted guy.
691
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,220
But a really tough
son of a bitch.
692
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:15,220
Valentine.
693
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:19,520
You say... You say your strategy
wants to take away all my hair and...
694
00:36:19,521 --> 00:36:21,940
You say what you forgot is
you've got one more year to go.
695
00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:26,780
When you look for, you know,
the best man in the world...
696
00:36:26,781 --> 00:36:30,820
You know, attributes of a bad
guy, you have to be fearless.
697
00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:33,530
You have to have a gift of gab.
698
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:36,306
You can say anything
that you want, even
699
00:36:36,307 --> 00:36:38,360
though you know it's
got to be controversial.
700
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:40,876
You have to be able to
communicate with the audience.
701
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:44,380
And you have to have a
certain attitude about you.
702
00:36:44,875 --> 00:36:46,860
And Roddy had all
those attributes and more.
703
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:53,100
Vince McMahon has these
plans of expanding nationally.
704
00:36:53,860 --> 00:36:56,680
What's the best way to
expand all over North America?
705
00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:59,801
You get the best
wrestlers from the individual
706
00:36:59,802 --> 00:37:03,860
territories, and you
bring them all to WWE.
707
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,400
And Vince McMahon wants it all.
708
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,620
I got a call from Roddy.
709
00:37:08,621 --> 00:37:10,040
He said, Mr. McMahon called.
710
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,520
I said, yeah, are you coming up?
711
00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:13,936
He goes, yeah, he
wants me to come up.
712
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,120
I said, come on up, you know.
713
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,380
Roddy was coming
to New York City.
714
00:37:19,425 --> 00:37:21,145
Well, let me tell you
how to be Roddy Piper.
715
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Heh.
716
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:23,600
Have a nice day.
717
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Go yourself.
718
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:26,040
Give me the microphone.
719
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:26,820
Get out of my way.
720
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,560
Full-legged, big, fat.
721
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:32,310
You both stink.
722
00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:33,910
It's as simple as this.
723
00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:36,550
When RP talks,
brother, people listen.
724
00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:41,870
In New York, New
York is big guys.
725
00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:45,630
At least 250 pounders,
six foot whatever.
726
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:46,770
That's what I was.
727
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:50,250
You know, Piper, later on,
I guess he gained weight.
728
00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:52,730
But when he first
came in, he was smaller.
729
00:37:53,050 --> 00:37:54,503
So if Roddy's not the
greatest wrestler, he's
730
00:37:54,504 --> 00:37:55,750
the greatest physical
specimen in the world.
731
00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:56,810
Don't let him do that.
732
00:37:57,330 --> 00:37:58,690
Do what Roddy does best.
733
00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:00,610
Let him be a talk show host.
734
00:38:00,950 --> 00:38:03,870
In a moment, ladies and gentlemen,
we're going to take you to Piper's pit.
735
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,601
Involving, of course,
the rather controversial
736
00:38:06,613 --> 00:38:08,690
and certainly
opinionated Roddy Piper.
737
00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:12,446
They put up a backdrop,
and it was basically
738
00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:14,710
a wrestling talk
show to stir the pot.
739
00:38:14,910 --> 00:38:15,910
You're a lousy wrestler.
740
00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:16,970
It's as simple as that.
741
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:18,926
I might be a lousy
wrestler, but I'm still in there.
742
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:20,030
I got not afraid of nobody.
743
00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:24,929
It was the Tonight
Show, where Roddy Piper,
744
00:38:24,930 --> 00:38:27,270
the host, could end
up beating up the guest.
745
00:38:27,490 --> 00:38:31,243
It was just the most
off-the-walls, unpredictable,
746
00:38:31,244 --> 00:38:33,570
amazing idea that ever
happened in television.
747
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:34,730
In my opinion.
748
00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:35,750
I'm biased, but whatever.
749
00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:38,390
Is he supposed to scare me?
750
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:39,790
You had to be ready.
751
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:41,550
He was witty, smart.
752
00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:43,166
He was like the
fastest gun in the West.
753
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:44,210
Hello, peasants.
754
00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:45,890
Don't call my father stupid.
755
00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:46,230
No, no.
756
00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:46,730
Wait, wait, wait.
757
00:38:46,850 --> 00:38:48,150
How you doing, fatso?
758
00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:51,730
You could take some guys and make
them look like heroes and superstars,
759
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:54,710
or he could kind of
like, if he wants to,
760
00:38:54,711 --> 00:38:57,150
he could chop you
down to size pretty quick.
761
00:38:57,370 --> 00:38:58,730
I could slam you myself.
762
00:38:59,010 --> 00:38:59,550
I don't care.
763
00:38:59,650 --> 00:39:01,610
You're saying John
snuck up at 520.
764
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:08,700
The most famous one, of course,
is the interview with Jimmy Snuka.
765
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,160
There were a couple of coconuts.
766
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,480
And one of them, you know,
had been what we call gimmicked.
767
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:17,700
But that's not the
one Roddy chose.
768
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:19,480
Am I making fun of you?
769
00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:20,320
No, sir.
770
00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:21,420
No, sir.
771
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Nothing was
scripted on Piper's pit.
772
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:34,820
It was all off at the top of
Dad's head or something
773
00:39:34,821 --> 00:39:36,620
that he'd maybe written
down in a note before.
774
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,440
And that's where
the magic happened.
775
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:42,600
Just when they think they got the
answers, I change the questions.
776
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,172
He wasn't famous for
his technique or his type of
777
00:39:46,173 --> 00:39:48,500
wrestling or how big his
arms were or anything like that.
778
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:51,002
He was just an incredible
talker and a guy that
779
00:39:51,003 --> 00:39:53,260
was taking wrestling and
telling a different story.
780
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,180
You do not throw rocks at a
man who's got a machine gun.
781
00:39:58,500 --> 00:39:59,500
To
782
00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:07,770
you, the female entertainer
of the year, Miss Cyndi Lauper!
783
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:14,890
Wrestling began to work with
MTV, which was absolutely red hot.
784
00:40:15,110 --> 00:40:16,530
You look wonderful, Cyndi.
785
00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:20,170
Captain Lou Albano and
Cyndi Lauper were friends.
786
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:25,930
And Cyndi Lauper had put Lou Albano
in her Girls Wanna Have Fun video.
787
00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:29,650
I said, Vince, I got this guy named
Dave Wolf that manages Cyndi Lauper.
788
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:31,530
They just did a
video with Albano.
789
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:33,946
But now they want to get
involved in the wrestling business.
790
00:40:33,970 --> 00:40:35,490
Vince was like, hmm, hmm.
791
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:37,930
Dave thought it was going
to be good for Cyndi's career.
792
00:40:38,215 --> 00:40:41,790
You know, I hear she's doing this
crossover in this very unusual world.
793
00:40:42,030 --> 00:40:44,290
It's like, what
the hell is this?
794
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:48,010
Would you please
welcome Cyndi Lauper!
795
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,980
So now, there's all this
attention somewhere to WWE.
796
00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:59,197
People who are fashionable,
people who are in the rock
797
00:40:59,198 --> 00:41:02,600
and roll world, they're
going to start watching WWE.
798
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,620
So they have this ceremony
in Madison Square Garden.
799
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,807
Lou Albano was one
of the primary forces
800
00:41:10,808 --> 00:41:14,440
responsible for the rock
and wrestling in the gym.
801
00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:19,440
And what better way to honor a
man but to give him a gold record.
802
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,900
I'm so grateful to
receive this award.
803
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,320
Now that's going to
provoke some jealousy.
804
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:27,860
And who is the most
jealous performer of all?
805
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,320
It's Roddy Piper.
806
00:41:29,321 --> 00:41:30,321
Beautiful, Cyndi.
807
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Maybe they have some
kind of presentation to make.
808
00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:34,700
I want to present you...
809
00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:43,220
Roddy Piper.
810
00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:44,660
Shocking.
811
00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:47,880
Kicks the biggest
pop star in America.
812
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,660
A female pop star in the head.
813
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,820
David Wong trying to cut
814
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,200
into the canvas.
815
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:01,633
20 minutes before the match,
I was asked, do you think
816
00:42:01,634 --> 00:42:05,780
you can kick Cyndi Lauper
or not her by her manager?
817
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,320
I mean, I hope you
never manage me.
818
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:16,680
But when they saw that, Saddam
Hussein got nothing on me.
819
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:18,280
Look out, the Hulksters!
820
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Hitting the ring!
821
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:21,960
Cyndi wasn't a wrestler.
822
00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:24,220
So she had to have
somebody to defend her honor.
823
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,220
He knew what he was doing.
824
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:27,200
He was stirring up the crowd.
825
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,360
He knew it and he loved it.
826
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,440
All heels do.
827
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,540
What a disgraceful display.
828
00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:34,560
Cyndi, look at her.
829
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:36,220
Tears running down her face.
830
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,880
Hulksters hot.
831
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,540
Everybody's hot.
832
00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:41,840
Boy, he wishes he could have
got his hands on Roddy Piper.
833
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,220
Every dog has its day.
834
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,580
You know what I'm talking about?
835
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:47,340
And that one's going to get his.
836
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:47,740
Okay.
837
00:42:47,741 --> 00:42:50,080
She expects me to sit there
and do nothing about her.
838
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,100
So I kick her 12
yards across the field.
839
00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:53,560
Just imagine this.
840
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,040
In about a four-month period, I
had kicked Cyndi Lauper in the head.
841
00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:01,860
I don't know how many
guys on Piper's fit I had,
842
00:43:01,861 --> 00:43:04,661
whatever I had done,
all in this very short time.
843
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,880
It was getting really heated up.
844
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,760
I couldn't go anyplace.
845
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,500
I was fighting.
846
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:11,620
I had a family.
847
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:13,260
I was fighting in
and out of Denny's.
848
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,520
It was crazy.
849
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,886
Roddy understood that
bringing him in, and the
850
00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:20,060
musicians, brings it
to a whole other level.
851
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,960
So he was on board for that.
852
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,176
All right, let me just step
out this way at the end.
853
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,523
But he found it very
hard being an old-school
854
00:43:27,524 --> 00:43:31,200
person, and he tried
best he could to cooperate.
855
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,600
It was never easy.
856
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,400
The last one is MTV Stinks.
857
00:43:36,565 --> 00:43:39,060
Once we got hooked up with
MTV, it took us to mainstream.
858
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,400
MTV.
859
00:43:44,735 --> 00:43:45,820
Music to vomit by.
860
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,100
Ladies and gentlemen,
the war to settle the score.
861
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,840
The hottest ticket in town.
862
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:57,320
The rock and wrestling connection helped
us change the look of the business to
863
00:43:57,321 --> 00:43:59,600
where we got families
and kids at ringside.
864
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,240
This is broadcast on MTV.
865
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,480
This is big time.
866
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,600
Everybody wants
to be a part of it.
867
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:09,480
Well, there's something
going on here.
868
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,680
I got to see what it is.
869
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,760
I got to check it out.
870
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Piper was the ultimate villain.
871
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:18,160
So you want to have the ultimate
villain all against the ultimate hero.
872
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,800
It was the biggest thing ever
was Hogan and Piper going at it.
873
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:30,960
We have got it, Piper!
874
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:36,550
When I ran into Piper, he's the one
that made everything else possible.
875
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:37,310
Oh!
876
00:44:37,870 --> 00:44:39,450
Dropped a big elbow on him!
877
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:43,956
I had to have an opponent, and
nobody had the air, the arrogance,
878
00:44:43,957 --> 00:44:46,730
the attitude to go toe-to-toe
with me and not back down.
879
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:49,810
Without Piper, we could have never,
never launched into the stratosphere.
880
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:54,470
Piper has two confederates.
881
00:44:54,471 --> 00:44:58,430
Cowboy Bob Ordon, Jr. and
Paul Mr. Wonderful Orndorff.
882
00:44:58,431 --> 00:44:59,990
Orndorff going up to the top.
883
00:45:00,610 --> 00:45:01,610
Looked out!
884
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:03,970
They interfere in the match.
885
00:45:04,350 --> 00:45:05,850
Cindy Lauper up on the apron.
886
00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:07,850
Orndorff going around
the side rope now.
887
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:09,150
Who
888
00:45:15,650 --> 00:45:17,770
is going to save the day?
889
00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:19,070
Well, Mr. T.
890
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:22,050
The biggest TV star
in the United States.
891
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:26,150
Everybody in the
country knows Mr. T.
892
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:28,350
They're inviting
him inside the ring.
893
00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:30,270
And so insert Mr. T.
894
00:45:30,271 --> 00:45:32,910
It was Vince's way to
interject the entertainment.
895
00:45:33,150 --> 00:45:36,010
It was nothing but excitement
and electricity, and it sure worked.
896
00:45:36,210 --> 00:45:38,830
I don't know anything about
his background as a wrestler.
897
00:45:39,050 --> 00:45:40,050
I used to be a bodyguard.
898
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:42,810
I used to be a bouncer
at a disco and all that stuff.
899
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:46,410
You know, now I knew how to
wrestle, you know, and I wasn't no fluff.
900
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:49,530
So I stepped in the ring, and
Piper snuck up behind me.
901
00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:53,206
I didn't think it would
go down like this.
902
00:45:53,230 --> 00:45:55,366
If I knew it would go down like
this, I would have did something else.
903
00:45:55,390 --> 00:45:56,510
So that's why I was so...
904
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:58,370
I guess I could say pissed.
905
00:45:58,650 --> 00:45:59,930
Oh, hell is broken loosely.
906
00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:02,270
Roddy was the ultimate bad guy.
907
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:03,270
He sold it.
908
00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:03,750
He packed it.
909
00:46:03,790 --> 00:46:04,910
He was good at what he did.
910
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:05,790
Oh, we've got him.
911
00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:06,550
We've got him at home.
912
00:46:06,551 --> 00:46:08,150
Security holding everyone back.
913
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:08,990
What is going on?
914
00:46:08,991 --> 00:46:10,870
And it just went
berserk, you know.
915
00:46:10,930 --> 00:46:11,930
It was...
916
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:14,850
I laugh at it now
because it's so old.
917
00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:16,010
I think about it, you know.
918
00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:16,930
It was maddening.
919
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:19,330
The Keystone Cops, because
everybody was fighting.
920
00:46:19,650 --> 00:46:20,770
What happened to our match?
921
00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:23,070
We don't have a match anymore.
922
00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:24,210
It's pandemonium.
923
00:46:24,330 --> 00:46:27,170
Well, back then, we were still
really protecting the business.
924
00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:29,130
Should we tell the cops
what we're doing or not?
925
00:46:29,131 --> 00:46:32,290
And the standard modem was,
I don't tell anybody anything.
926
00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:34,010
Let's just get their
natural reaction.
927
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:37,270
All of a sudden, some
policeman came in the ring army.
928
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:40,170
There's a cop with a gun,
and here the rest of them come.
929
00:46:40,890 --> 00:46:42,650
Piper was fighting the
cops and everything.
930
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:43,870
It was just insanity.
931
00:46:44,850 --> 00:46:47,110
Hulk Hogan was the biggest hero.
932
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:51,770
Roddy Piper was the
most detested villain.
933
00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:58,630
And now we are ready to start
our road to the first WrestleMania.
934
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:00,950
Okay, Ariel, let's go.
935
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,150
Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
936
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:03,550
Come on, Ariel.
937
00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:04,570
Thank you.
938
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:05,950
He's tired.
939
00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:07,790
This is the proud papa.
940
00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:09,770
Papa Piper.
941
00:47:10,305 --> 00:47:13,072
My dad often would
say things like, I can't
942
00:47:13,073 --> 00:47:15,610
imagine how hard it is
to be Roddy Piper's kid.
943
00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:17,190
Here comes Roddy.
944
00:47:17,890 --> 00:47:18,890
Ariel.
945
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:22,277
He felt guilty, like he was
some way a bad parent
946
00:47:22,278 --> 00:47:25,391
because his career was in
some way affecting our lives.
947
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:27,210
He was smiling.
948
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:28,990
He was grinning.
949
00:47:28,991 --> 00:47:34,870
When we were starting out as a
young family, he came to me and said,
950
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,210
I really do not want our children
to grow up in 100 different places.
951
00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:40,450
I want them to have roots.
952
00:47:41,010 --> 00:47:42,030
You sure are pretty.
953
00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:45,610
Because he never
felt like he had a home.
954
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:51,070
We chose to live in the country
and have a lot of land around us.
955
00:47:51,790 --> 00:47:53,230
It was a safe zone.
956
00:47:53,830 --> 00:47:59,310
We lived on a 10-acre ranch in the
middle of nowhere, end of a gravel road.
957
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:03,830
And we really kept
to just that ranch.
958
00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:05,170
Goodbye.
959
00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:07,226
With any kind of
luck, she'll keep going.
960
00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:08,290
We won't have to feed her.
961
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:15,370
We wanted to be isolated because we had
actual stalkers who would come and try and
962
00:48:15,371 --> 00:48:17,430
break into our house
or be on our property.
963
00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:20,730
We did not go to the malls.
964
00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:21,950
We did not go to the movies.
965
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,802
I must have gotten 30
fights in one year just
966
00:48:25,803 --> 00:48:28,150
because people wanted
to test their minds.
967
00:48:28,170 --> 00:48:29,250
They were moxie against me.
968
00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:35,920
This kind of thing is real life.
969
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:40,520
This is the kind of thing
that makes a family.
970
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:44,710
It's a great way of
nature just teaching a
971
00:48:44,711 --> 00:48:48,121
family how to be a
family and stay together.
972
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,420
I had a meeting with a small
room full of our executives.
973
00:48:57,460 --> 00:48:59,220
And I said, there
is a Super Bowl.
974
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,640
Here's the World Series.
975
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,540
There's this, there's that.
976
00:49:01,541 --> 00:49:02,621
It was really common sense.
977
00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:05,600
So why not have one of your own?
978
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,760
Call it WrestleMania.
979
00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:10,940
We would not have had WrestleMania I had
it not been for Roddy because you have to
980
00:49:10,941 --> 00:49:13,580
have, again, a strong antagonist
to get with the protagonist.
981
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:14,860
Check this out, dude!
982
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:15,900
Check that out!
983
00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:18,581
You have to have good
stories and you have to have
984
00:49:18,582 --> 00:49:20,681
bold characters and
larger-than-life individuals.
985
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,840
And Roddy was all of that.
986
00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:23,360
So I knew I had Roddy.
987
00:49:23,361 --> 00:49:24,960
I knew I had Hogan and Mr. T.
988
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,820
It was like that
was going to work.
989
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,460
How does it feel to be
portraying someone like myself?
990
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,520
Well, you ain't got a chance.
991
00:49:31,521 --> 00:49:32,521
You ain't nothing, man.
992
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,160
Oh, why, you ain't at all.
993
00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:35,916
Because I don't have a
chair with my name on it?
994
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:38,340
Roddy Piper really
did not like Mr. T.
995
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:39,660
Don't look at someone!
996
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,200
In those days, you know, you really
paid some dues to be in the main event.
997
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,420
When Mr. T walks in, not even
having a match anywhere, and it's like,
998
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,520
what right does he have to
be in my ring in the main event?
999
00:49:55,820 --> 00:49:59,200
You want to get in there, brother,
and you want to try some fighting, huh?
1000
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:03,360
We've never brought in somebody from the
outside and one of the biggest problems I
1001
00:50:03,361 --> 00:50:06,700
had was the barbaric
mindset of Piper and Orndorff.
1002
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,980
You're looking at someone
that was... He's an actor.
1003
00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:09,760
He's not a wrestler.
1004
00:50:09,860 --> 00:50:11,036
We're just going
to break his legs.
1005
00:50:11,060 --> 00:50:12,120
I said, guys, please.
1006
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:14,240
How can I say it
without sounding cocky?
1007
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,460
They didn't understand that bringing
me in would broaden their thing.
1008
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:23,020
Because basically, you know, Vince,
being the pioneer that he is, he said,
1009
00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:25,340
wow, we're going to
broaden, bring it to the world.
1010
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,580
You come on down, T.
1011
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:29,040
We'll put an X where
the T should be.
1012
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:31,788
Roddy hated the
thought that, you know, he
1013
00:50:31,789 --> 00:50:34,160
was a part of a Mr. T
coming into his arena.
1014
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:35,920
It's an insult.
1015
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:37,680
It's a slap in the
face to the business.
1016
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,280
I had these two guys that
had this old school mentality.
1017
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,380
And plus, I got this guy
who's got a real edgy attitude.
1018
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,136
You know, he's always
talking in third person.
1019
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,880
Mr. T don't do that.
1020
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:48,700
Mr. T don't put up with that.
1021
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,160
Mr. T ain't no powder puff.
1022
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:51,580
He had to understand, you know.
1023
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,280
They didn't want to lose to Mr. T
because he's not a real wrestler.
1024
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,900
There I am, the hardest
heel they've ever had.
1025
00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:04,560
And now they want
me to take a dive.
1026
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,880
I said, I ain't doing it.
1027
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,380
I was kind of like the babysitter,
the moderator, the peacekeeper.
1028
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,660
And I was ready to have
a nervous breakdown.
1029
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,500
The wrestling extravaganza
of all time, WrestleMania.
1030
00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:20,980
The people knew the wrestling
business was changing that night.
1031
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:24,580
There was a fever pitch
in Madison Square Garden.
1032
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,580
Piper's gonna get it.
1033
00:51:26,581 --> 00:51:27,020
Get what?
1034
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,320
Get his butt kicked.
1035
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:34,603
What do you do, you know, to
show the world what this product
1036
00:51:34,604 --> 00:51:37,560
is and what it will be, you
know, in a really big way?
1037
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,560
Look at Rodji.
1038
00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:39,820
How does he fit in any of this?
1039
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,880
He doesn't.
1040
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,960
That's why I had him.
1041
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,660
This is what sports
entertainment is all about.
1042
00:51:44,980 --> 00:51:46,160
It was everything we had.
1043
00:51:46,161 --> 00:51:46,760
We threw it in.
1044
00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:48,880
And let's roll the dice
and do it in a big way.
1045
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:51,360
Everything I had
was on the line.
1046
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:03,320
Here is what is arguably the turning
point of the WWE in just so many ways.
1047
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,780
Rodji was very stubborn.
1048
00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:10,520
But you're about to make more money
than you ever had in your entire lifetime.
1049
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,920
Rodji was smart enough to
know, yeah, I'm gonna do business.
1050
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,840
And I'm gonna
make it look right.
1051
00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:29,500
You don't have to like it.
1052
00:52:29,501 --> 00:52:30,800
There's the exchange and slip.
1053
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,840
Piper now goes to the line
quickly, takes him down to the cage.
1054
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:39,900
At a certain point, Rodji Piper instructs
Mr. T, pick me up in a fireman's carry.
1055
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,300
Oh, a nice fireman's carry.
1056
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,630
Even though he didn't
want Mr. T to take advantage
1057
00:52:46,631 --> 00:52:49,961
of him, Rodji Piper
knows how to sell himself.
1058
00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:54,240
And he knows that's the photo
that will go all over the world.
1059
00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:56,660
What's he gonna do with it?
1060
00:52:56,780 --> 00:53:01,690
You need to make Mr. T the hero.
1061
00:53:01,691 --> 00:53:03,090
This is what this is all about.
1062
00:53:05,770 --> 00:53:08,770
Mr. T should have beaten one of
those guys right in the middle of the ring.
1063
00:53:09,610 --> 00:53:10,610
Preferably Piper.
1064
00:53:13,950 --> 00:53:18,550
But instead, they had to have Orton jump
off the top rope with a cast to hit Warned
1065
00:53:18,551 --> 00:53:20,630
Off on the head, just
so he could get a win.
1066
00:53:22,450 --> 00:53:24,570
Piper didn't want to do the
job, even in WrestleMania.
1067
00:53:25,590 --> 00:53:26,490
You're the bad guy.
1068
00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:27,586
You're supposed to get beat.
1069
00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:28,610
That's what bad guys do.
1070
00:53:30,010 --> 00:53:31,670
He was so protective about it.
1071
00:53:31,690 --> 00:53:33,650
He was so protective about
protecting Roddy Piper.
1072
00:53:33,970 --> 00:53:36,233
He didn't realize, if
you just listen to our
1073
00:53:36,234 --> 00:53:39,391
opinion, I think you might
find things a lot easier.
1074
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:43,190
But Piper didn't like
me, you know, at all.
1075
00:53:43,310 --> 00:53:45,470
I mean, there was no
rapport at all with him and I.
1076
00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:47,010
It was strictly business.
1077
00:53:47,230 --> 00:53:48,510
We didn't talk unless we had to.
1078
00:53:49,315 --> 00:53:51,241
But later on in life,
when Piper and I got to be
1079
00:53:51,301 --> 00:53:53,430
real good friends, I said,
you screwed up, man.
1080
00:53:53,815 --> 00:53:55,378
You could have been
one of the richest guys
1081
00:53:55,379 --> 00:53:57,050
I've ever met, but you
wouldn't let me beat you.
1082
00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:58,630
So he goes, damn it.
1083
00:53:59,010 --> 00:53:59,710
I'm so pissed.
1084
00:53:59,830 --> 00:54:00,390
I wish we had talked.
1085
00:54:00,391 --> 00:54:01,310
I said, I tried to talk.
1086
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:02,350
You wouldn't talk to me.
1087
00:54:03,710 --> 00:54:09,090
Hulk Hogan, Mr. T kind of taking
the center stage of that whole event.
1088
00:54:09,310 --> 00:54:12,064
He always felt they
couldn't have been the center
1089
00:54:12,124 --> 00:54:14,810
stage without him being
there, being the bad guy.
1090
00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:17,330
And he knew his worth.
1091
00:54:17,550 --> 00:54:18,550
He knew his worth.
1092
00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:23,610
It's things like that that made
Roddy the ultimate rebel.
1093
00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:31,270
For myself to stay on top, I needed
to get out of the business completely.
1094
00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:34,110
Do something in another form.
1095
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:38,285
I spent a lot of time
with Roddy and had a lot
1096
00:54:38,286 --> 00:54:40,830
of big talks with Roddy
about that time period.
1097
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:43,588
And I remember Roddy
basically telling me that
1098
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:46,090
you got to have something
else after wrestling.
1099
00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:47,930
What are you going
to do after that?
1100
00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:48,970
It was like Hollywood.
1101
00:54:53,570 --> 00:54:56,670
Roddy had a quality that
I could use in a movie.
1102
00:54:57,220 --> 00:54:58,750
Well, first of all, he
didn't have a pretty body.
1103
00:54:58,751 --> 00:55:00,546
He had a pretty boy face
like a Hollywood actor.
1104
00:55:00,570 --> 00:55:03,770
And this role required him
to be a kind of a working man.
1105
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,490
You, you're okay.
1106
00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:08,190
This one, real ugly.
1107
00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:11,676
The character of John
Nada is really based a lot
1108
00:55:11,677 --> 00:55:13,950
on Roddy and his past
and what he'd been through.
1109
00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:15,470
And he added a
lot of color to that.
1110
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:18,430
He gave me a notebook.
1111
00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:23,451
Now in this notebook were written all these
phrases and ideas he had for interviews.
1112
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:28,550
And right there, sitting there was,
I've come here to chew bubble gum.
1113
00:55:28,551 --> 00:55:29,190
And kick ass.
1114
00:55:29,210 --> 00:55:30,250
I'm all out of bubble gum.
1115
00:55:31,810 --> 00:55:32,730
Well, that's a great line.
1116
00:55:32,810 --> 00:55:33,430
I can use that.
1117
00:55:33,590 --> 00:55:37,730
I have come here to chew
bubble gum and kick ass.
1118
00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:40,170
And I'm all out of bubble gum.
1119
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:45,940
That's all his idea.
1120
00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:47,290
That was all from his brain.
1121
00:55:47,905 --> 00:55:53,350
I've never felt safer in my life
than fighting with Roddy Piper.
1122
00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:57,550
I believe that fight scene.
1123
00:55:58,150 --> 00:56:00,490
Lasts literally about
seven minutes on screen.
1124
00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:05,810
We really, you know,
choreographed the out of it.
1125
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,330
But there was one time
we were both so hyped up.
1126
00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:10,550
I was especially hyped up.
1127
00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:14,330
And that first punch, I
hit him right in the face.
1128
00:56:14,490 --> 00:56:16,510
And I was like, I was out of.
1129
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:17,986
And he's like, come on, man.
1130
00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:18,370
Don't worry.
1131
00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:18,690
Come on.
1132
00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:18,870
Come on.
1133
00:56:18,871 --> 00:56:19,430
Step out of it.
1134
00:56:19,490 --> 00:56:19,670
Come on.
1135
00:56:19,671 --> 00:56:20,030
Don't worry.
1136
00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:20,310
Come on.
1137
00:56:20,370 --> 00:56:21,370
Let's start again.
1138
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:22,690
And he was great.
1139
00:56:22,810 --> 00:56:25,270
Brother, life's a bitch.
1140
00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:28,390
Don't feel sorry for me.
1141
00:56:28,850 --> 00:56:30,250
My name's John Nada.
1142
00:56:30,970 --> 00:56:34,510
The year and a half we were in Los
Angeles, while he was filming those
1143
00:56:34,511 --> 00:56:37,290
movies, he brought the scripts
home and we'd go over them.
1144
00:56:38,190 --> 00:56:39,190
Here we go.
1145
00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:41,830
He was always leaving
to go to acting classes.
1146
00:56:42,850 --> 00:56:45,230
I mean, it was a
whole other lifestyle.
1147
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:50,820
It was not like it was
today where it's a lot
1148
00:56:50,821 --> 00:56:53,610
more flexible for
wrestlers to also do acting.
1149
00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:55,890
Back then, it was,
you didn't do that.
1150
00:56:56,070 --> 00:57:00,470
It was not an easy road to be
really the first wrestler to go into film.
1151
00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:02,890
Vince was booking everything
without Piper's name.
1152
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:05,450
It was real hard for us
to make that transition
1153
00:57:05,462 --> 00:57:07,450
because Piper was
so hot at the time.
1154
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:10,990
If Roddy wanted to go off and
do film, what am I going to say?
1155
00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:12,546
No, don't want to take
advantage of that opportunity.
1156
00:57:12,570 --> 00:57:14,610
As long as I know
that he's coming back.
1157
00:57:15,110 --> 00:57:19,296
He loved acting and he
loved the work of it, but he felt
1158
00:57:19,297 --> 00:57:21,870
alienated and didn't really
have a lot in common with it.
1159
00:57:21,871 --> 00:57:24,226
He didn't want to do anything
with a lot of the people in Hollywood.
1160
00:57:24,250 --> 00:57:27,630
The only people that they can
understand me are other wrestlers.
1161
00:57:29,630 --> 00:57:35,950
I needed to come back to the
WWE and walk back in the front door.
1162
00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:38,850
Roddy!
1163
00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:40,110
Roddy!
1164
00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:46,098
When I came back into
wrestling from Hollywood,
1165
00:57:46,099 --> 00:57:50,960
bringing that credibility
back was huge.
1166
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,652
Roddy's standpoint is,
well, you had to bring me
1167
00:57:55,653 --> 00:57:57,641
back because that was
the greatest star of all time.
1168
00:57:57,940 --> 00:57:59,660
That would be
Roddy's point of view.
1169
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,360
But it doesn't matter
what you want.
1170
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,020
Give the audience
what they want.
1171
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,720
They want Roddy to come back?
1172
00:58:06,820 --> 00:58:07,820
Let's give them Roddy.
1173
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:10,380
Standing ovation
here for Roddy Roddy!
1174
00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:13,620
And after a respite,
Roddy's ready to come back.
1175
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,460
Great, he's fresh,
he's new all over again.
1176
00:58:15,580 --> 00:58:16,660
Different set of opponents.
1177
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,980
Mr. Downey.
1178
00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:20,040
Yes, Mr. Piper.
1179
00:58:20,850 --> 00:58:23,120
Don't blow no more
smoke in my face.
1180
00:58:23,121 --> 00:58:24,720
Morton Downey Jr.
was a talk show host.
1181
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:25,780
Now he's a big mouth.
1182
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:27,400
And Roddy had this
impeccable timing.
1183
00:58:27,950 --> 00:58:33,400
So when Downey blows smoke in Roddy's
face, it's like, one, two, three, four.
1184
00:58:33,810 --> 00:58:37,080
Instead of immediately doing it,
watch, something's going to happen now.
1185
00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:38,220
And then it does.
1186
00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:43,830
He was so creative.
1187
00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:45,690
I think the fire is out, Jeff.
1188
00:58:45,950 --> 00:58:46,970
Very quick on his feet.
1189
00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:52,461
But at the same time,
he was very opinionated
1190
00:58:52,462 --> 00:58:54,750
and wanted someone
to listen to his opinion.
1191
00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:57,633
I listened to a lot of Roddy's
ideas, some of which were
1192
00:58:57,634 --> 00:59:01,310
really dead on and some of
which were, wow, that was out there.
1193
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:04,030
They say you shouldn't blow
your own horn, don't they say that?
1194
00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:04,630
Why not?
1195
00:59:04,750 --> 00:59:08,070
You are the most arrogant
individual I think we've ever had.
1196
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:12,050
I think Roddy once described our
relationship as a love-hate relationship.
1197
00:59:12,590 --> 00:59:13,590
We never fought.
1198
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:15,990
There were a couple of
times when it was very close.
1199
00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:18,550
That was the way it
was back in those days.
1200
00:59:18,610 --> 00:59:20,570
A lot of times you
settled things in a fist fight.
1201
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:21,630
You just did.
1202
00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:24,230
Vince and I were
two peas in a pod.
1203
00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:25,770
I love the.
1204
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:27,460
I do.
1205
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:28,500
He's an.
1206
00:59:28,770 --> 00:59:29,230
Sometimes.
1207
00:59:29,570 --> 00:59:30,570
So am I.
1208
00:59:32,910 --> 00:59:36,270
Roddy Piper was an
attraction all to himself.
1209
00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:39,550
The fans could no
longer boo him anymore.
1210
00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:43,550
You came to see
Roddy Piper's intensity.
1211
00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:46,110
You came to hear his big mouth.
1212
00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:50,164
And you came to
watch that frenzied,
1213
00:59:50,176 --> 00:59:54,731
kinetic spirit he brought
between the ropes.
1214
00:59:58,580 --> 01:00:02,537
Whether he won or
whether he was humiliated,
1215
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:05,901
he was a draw and
he remained a draw.
1216
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:17,270
Roddy Piper was maturing in
that it wasn't all about Roddy.
1217
01:00:17,271 --> 01:00:22,030
And Roddy was proving that,
hey, I can make people too.
1218
01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:25,830
I wouldn't lay my
shoulders down for anybody.
1219
01:00:26,530 --> 01:00:30,070
But when I do, I make somebody.
1220
01:00:30,550 --> 01:00:32,290
And it means something.
1221
01:00:32,610 --> 01:00:33,910
This is gonna be something.
1222
01:00:34,790 --> 01:00:36,210
This was a special match.
1223
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:39,170
This is the biggest moment in
my life for sure up to this point.
1224
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:41,230
Roddy really launched me.
1225
01:00:42,190 --> 01:00:44,070
My whole career
just started climbing.
1226
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:46,890
And it was Roddy was the
one that gave me that first boost.
1227
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:49,586
This is the first time these
two men are meeting for
1228
01:00:49,587 --> 01:00:52,490
the World Wrestling
Federation Intercontinental title.
1229
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,866
I think the last time, I think I did
watch this maybe when Roddy died.
1230
01:00:55,890 --> 01:01:00,031
I always make a point of like, let me
go back and find some good memories.
1231
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:03,090
I always felt Roddy took
a special interest in me.
1232
01:01:03,850 --> 01:01:05,450
Roddy was born in Saskatoon.
1233
01:01:05,590 --> 01:01:07,050
And my dad grew up in Saskatoon.
1234
01:01:07,485 --> 01:01:11,270
And there was a possibility that their
name, like they were the same family.
1235
01:01:11,350 --> 01:01:13,590
Or maybe there was
some blood between us.
1236
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:17,430
When I first met him, we
joked that we might be cousins.
1237
01:01:18,170 --> 01:01:19,250
Like it was like, hey, cuz.
1238
01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:20,710
And I didn't mind.
1239
01:01:20,790 --> 01:01:22,230
I never minded
Roddy being a cousin.
1240
01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:26,490
I know this guy since he's
been knee high to a grasshopper.
1241
01:01:26,491 --> 01:01:29,250
I remember when they were
changing your body pants.
1242
01:01:29,735 --> 01:01:33,130
I think it was a message to the other
wrestlers, some of the other superstars,
1243
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:36,790
that weren't in the habit of
reaching down to help the next guys.
1244
01:01:37,010 --> 01:01:38,866
Roddy was like, here,
I'll show you how it's done.
1245
01:01:38,890 --> 01:01:40,830
Eye to eye, nose to nose.
1246
01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:44,890
But I was relieved to find out
that this guy's really pitching for me.
1247
01:01:44,970 --> 01:01:46,910
He's actually opening
the doors for me.
1248
01:01:48,110 --> 01:01:49,790
That match was Roddy's match.
1249
01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:50,650
Roddy, Roddy.
1250
01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:51,890
Oh, bulldog.
1251
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:53,710
Like Roddy put
that match together.
1252
01:01:53,930 --> 01:01:55,130
Busted wide open.
1253
01:01:56,490 --> 01:01:59,390
Roddy was so tuned into
what would work with the fans.
1254
01:01:59,610 --> 01:02:00,610
He's got the bell.
1255
01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:02,550
Piper's gonna ring his bell.
1256
01:02:02,770 --> 01:02:04,950
They don't want to
ring me with the bell.
1257
01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:07,830
It's like, no, no, don't do it.
1258
01:02:08,050 --> 01:02:09,370
He's having second thoughts.
1259
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:11,850
His conscience
gets the better of him.
1260
01:02:11,870 --> 01:02:13,910
He changes his mind
here and decides not to.
1261
01:02:15,850 --> 01:02:16,850
Oh, look at that.
1262
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:22,170
So by being a nice
guy, I've tossed him.
1263
01:02:23,050 --> 01:02:24,050
Idiot.
1264
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:25,470
It's great.
1265
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:31,090
Over the years, Roddy told me many times,
like, that it was his most favorite match.
1266
01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:33,550
And, you know,
you never forget that.
1267
01:02:35,845 --> 01:02:37,866
There's an old saying
that's, uh, you need a
1268
01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:40,231
license to hunt, you
need a license to fish.
1269
01:02:40,430 --> 01:02:41,430
Any jerk can have a kid.
1270
01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:43,330
It takes a man to be a dad.
1271
01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:46,370
Oh, man.
1272
01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:48,962
When I look at my
childhood, my dad was gone
1273
01:02:48,963 --> 01:02:51,771
almost every day for at
least up until I was five.
1274
01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:57,290
The first at least 12 years of my life,
he was gone for long periods of time.
1275
01:02:57,470 --> 01:02:59,590
I think at one point I didn't
see him for over a year.
1276
01:03:00,910 --> 01:03:03,349
We both made the same
choice that the wrestling
1277
01:03:03,350 --> 01:03:06,430
business took precedent
over anything, even family.
1278
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:09,930
So that's a tough choice to
look in the mirror and live with.
1279
01:03:10,490 --> 01:03:14,870
You were gone at least
300 days a year, every year.
1280
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:19,010
Roddy was, like me, was
a real strong family man.
1281
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:23,430
You know, you commiserate together,
and you're missing your kids' birthday
1282
01:03:23,431 --> 01:03:25,871
parties, and you miss
Halloween, and you miss
1283
01:03:25,872 --> 01:03:28,050
all these little special
days all the time.
1284
01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:28,670
You see pictures.
1285
01:03:28,671 --> 01:03:31,830
The heartbreak at home
of being gone all the time.
1286
01:03:31,930 --> 01:03:34,190
You know, it's just this
very tough part of your life.
1287
01:03:35,650 --> 01:03:41,350
When Roddy would come home
and have to be dad, he was always fun.
1288
01:03:42,910 --> 01:03:45,970
He would spoil them rotten.
1289
01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:48,930
He would pull
them out of school.
1290
01:03:49,455 --> 01:03:51,210
It didn't matter
what was going on.
1291
01:03:54,610 --> 01:03:58,330
Christmas, so he was always
home and always lots of presents.
1292
01:04:00,310 --> 01:04:01,850
A lot of cuddle time.
1293
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:06,430
He was trying very hard to
create what he didn't have.
1294
01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:09,610
He would come home
and he would be so
1295
01:04:09,622 --> 01:04:12,170
exhausted, you know,
while trying to see us.
1296
01:04:12,430 --> 01:04:16,190
And then he would want to have
fun or just do something as a family.
1297
01:04:16,590 --> 01:04:18,955
And then immediately, like
as soon as we were having
1298
01:04:18,956 --> 01:04:21,510
fun, you could see him
getting antsy about work.
1299
01:04:21,930 --> 01:04:25,250
You could see it start to tick like
a clock going faster and faster.
1300
01:04:25,710 --> 01:04:27,170
And I think he missed it.
1301
01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:28,650
You know, he missed
us when he was gone.
1302
01:04:28,670 --> 01:04:30,970
And he missed the
action when he was home.
1303
01:04:31,350 --> 01:04:35,861
He was like a runaway as a kid
growing up and spent a lot of time
1304
01:04:35,862 --> 01:04:39,630
on the road in his own mindset,
like Roddy against the world.
1305
01:04:40,910 --> 01:04:42,490
He was not like
any other wrestler.
1306
01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:44,530
He was in his own world.
1307
01:04:45,170 --> 01:04:48,070
I think that world also
meant going away.
1308
01:04:48,810 --> 01:04:51,970
I'm going to get 30 minutes
with my dad this month.
1309
01:04:52,595 --> 01:04:56,410
I just want to hug him, cuddle with him,
kiss him and do whatever I can in that
1310
01:04:56,411 --> 01:04:59,010
time because I literally get
him on his transfer layover flight.
1311
01:04:59,390 --> 01:05:01,450
He wasn't an NFL
player that had a season.
1312
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:02,670
He went 365.
1313
01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:04,390
There you go.
1314
01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:06,610
They never liked seeing him go.
1315
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:08,410
Everyone, including myself.
1316
01:05:08,830 --> 01:05:11,790
If you could wish for anything in the
whole world, what would you wish for?
1317
01:05:11,830 --> 01:05:15,290
For my family to be
together all the time.
1318
01:05:15,590 --> 01:05:17,190
That dad didn't go away.
1319
01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:20,730
But it's got to work, so
it just doesn't happen.
1320
01:05:21,205 --> 01:05:23,990
You know, it's hard not to get sad
when he was going out the door.
1321
01:05:24,660 --> 01:05:25,970
But, um, sorry.
1322
01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:40,700
It's hard to live with a man
that has constant injuries.
1323
01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:46,320
Of course, they varied from
bruises to broken bones.
1324
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,840
He never let on how
bad he was hurting.
1325
01:05:51,380 --> 01:05:54,640
I would beg him to sit still
and recover from an injury.
1326
01:05:54,740 --> 01:05:55,860
Yes, yes, I would.
1327
01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:58,940
But you cannot make Rod
do anything he doesn't want to.
1328
01:06:00,860 --> 01:06:03,700
Dad was injured 90% of the time.
1329
01:06:04,805 --> 01:06:07,494
So when I say I had to
lace his boots up since I was
1330
01:06:07,495 --> 01:06:09,941
8 years old, it's because
it physically hurt him.
1331
01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:14,460
He is sorely outnumbered here.
1332
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:19,700
I remember the first time that I
really felt like, wow, he is mortal.
1333
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:21,440
Hogan gets a whipping on him.
1334
01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:25,580
And truly hating Hogan.
1335
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,760
They can't hurt him!
1336
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:33,420
The hardest thing as a kid for
me was knowing your dad's injuries.
1337
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,760
And he had just had
a hip replacement.
1338
01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:36,160
Show him that scar.
1339
01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:37,300
There you can see it.
1340
01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:39,100
He had a scar from
a hip replacement.
1341
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,880
Hulk Hogan took a
chair and hit my dad.
1342
01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:42,220
Oh, no!
1343
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:43,720
No!
1344
01:06:43,940 --> 01:06:45,600
He's not supposed
to be wrestling.
1345
01:06:45,740 --> 01:06:47,460
We were told he might
not even walk again.
1346
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:55,000
I just remember breaking down in tears
because for the first time it became real.
1347
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,320
So at that point, my parents
stopped letting us watch all together.
1348
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,600
When we had the inside and
the outside, it was really rough.
1349
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,360
I mean, he was just in constant
pain and yet could work through it.
1350
01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:17,026
As he got older, he had a
shoulder injury and his arm would
1351
01:07:17,027 --> 01:07:20,020
just hang like a couple
inches lower than the other arm.
1352
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,836
And he was probably
like that for a year or two.
1353
01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:25,440
And it turned out his, like, they pulled
out something like five or six shattered
1354
01:07:25,441 --> 01:07:28,200
bones that were just like
floating around his shoulder.
1355
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:34,740
It was kind of fascinating for me to see
him behind the scenes having a hard time
1356
01:07:34,741 --> 01:07:36,740
getting out of bed,
having a hard time walking.
1357
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,420
And two hours later, he's in the ring
and you'd never know anything was wrong
1358
01:07:41,421 --> 01:07:43,980
because he loved it and
he loved putting on a show.
1359
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,380
It really was just two
completely different lives.
1360
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:57,310
During the time of 2003 when Dad
talked to HBO, it was a dark time for Dad,
1361
01:07:57,810 --> 01:07:59,370
in front of camera and at home.
1362
01:07:59,590 --> 01:08:00,590
Everybody's dead.
1363
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:03,230
They're all dying early.
1364
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:05,170
And...
1365
01:08:05,475 --> 01:08:06,650
nobody cares about it.
1366
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,670
What the hell is he doing?
1367
01:08:10,420 --> 01:08:12,010
And what the hell is he saying?
1368
01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:13,140
It's like, really?
1369
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:16,850
They take them and they
screw them up so much.
1370
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,050
And they being the rash of promoters
that I've gone through in the 33 years.
1371
01:08:23,390 --> 01:08:24,872
A lot of times you
lash out, you know, and
1372
01:08:24,873 --> 01:08:27,291
that's what Roddy was
doing was lashing out.
1373
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:32,650
A lot of his friends had
started passing away.
1374
01:08:33,205 --> 01:08:34,710
And it makes you worry.
1375
01:08:34,711 --> 01:08:35,791
And it makes you concerned.
1376
01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:39,390
And so that's when he
started being vocal about it.
1377
01:08:39,670 --> 01:08:43,290
I know he blamed the company for
just about everything in the interviews.
1378
01:08:43,935 --> 01:08:46,750
But at that time he
had lost so much.
1379
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:47,730
He wasn't wrestling.
1380
01:08:47,870 --> 01:08:48,870
He was hurt.
1381
01:08:49,225 --> 01:08:50,825
Just trying to stand
up for his buddies.
1382
01:08:51,690 --> 01:08:54,719
But later on, towards the
end, Dad had talked to me
1383
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,050
and, you know, he said,
it's the business we get into.
1384
01:08:57,190 --> 01:08:58,290
We know what it is.
1385
01:08:58,390 --> 01:09:01,530
You know, we don't get in there thinking
we're going to live to 78 years old.
1386
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,010
What would you have me do at 49?
1387
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:08,350
When, like, my pension plan,
I can't take out until I'm 65.
1388
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,150
I'm not going to make 65.
1389
01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:11,930
It's just face facts, guys.
1390
01:09:12,310 --> 01:09:15,430
When someone says, you know, really
rotten things about your company, you know,
1391
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,926
you're not going to welcome
them with open arms.
1392
01:09:17,950 --> 01:09:21,210
You know, you're going to
say, time for us to say goodbye.
1393
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,530
He wasn't expecting
the consequences.
1394
01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:27,290
He lost a contract.
1395
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:30,350
It was pretty bad for our family
as far as, like, our well-being goes.
1396
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,490
I think he felt very lost.
1397
01:09:32,990 --> 01:09:33,990
Very depressed.
1398
01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:36,310
A little bit reckless
with his behavior.
1399
01:09:36,830 --> 01:09:39,230
Obviously, with the HBO
interview, that's a good example.
1400
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:42,090
And, you know, I've talked
about him having demons.
1401
01:09:42,210 --> 01:09:44,706
And I think that this was
sort of like the height of
1402
01:09:44,707 --> 01:09:47,191
his demons coming out
was this period of his life.
1403
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:53,780
Yeah, nothing's
permanent in this business.
1404
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,920
And as Piper's been fired,
I've been fired a couple times.
1405
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:57,880
You know, but things change.
1406
01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:02,340
And, you know,
the president or O.J.
1407
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:05,036
or somebody will do something that
takes precedent over something that we did.
1408
01:10:05,060 --> 01:10:07,780
So I think Vince
understands that he's doing it.
1409
01:10:07,781 --> 01:10:10,180
He's dealing with a bunch
of high, intense personalities.
1410
01:10:10,875 --> 01:10:12,315
But Vince has
been pretty forgiving.
1411
01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:13,180
Whoo!
1412
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,160
Ladies and
gentlemen, I give you...
1413
01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:23,180
I give you the most gifted entertainer
in the history of professional wrestling.
1414
01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:26,220
My man, the Hot Rod.
1415
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:33,010
I think it was huge for him, you know,
because his whole life was wrestling.
1416
01:10:33,310 --> 01:10:37,790
Even though wrestling is an exhibition,
for us, the Hall of Fame is real.
1417
01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:46,000
I want to tell you this.
1418
01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:49,500
I love you...
1419
01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:54,300
I love you so much, man.
1420
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,040
I love you so much,
but I guarantee you this.
1421
01:10:58,460 --> 01:11:02,880
My name is Rowdy Roddy Piper,
and you ain't seen nothing yet.
1422
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:23,020
You can find sympathy in the
dictionary between and suicide.
1423
01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:29,360
Roddy was definitely depressed
off and on during his life.
1424
01:11:30,590 --> 01:11:34,960
You know, you're either up
100% or you're kind of down.
1425
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:37,780
And it was always hard for
him to find the middle spot.
1426
01:11:40,270 --> 01:11:42,487
One of the demons
was that time in his life as
1427
01:11:42,488 --> 01:11:45,201
a teenager when he was
surviving on the street.
1428
01:11:45,810 --> 01:11:47,020
He never let that go.
1429
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,780
I was so young.
1430
01:11:49,740 --> 01:11:51,180
I had to fight for
everything I had.
1431
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,480
I had to fight for
everything I had.
1432
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,200
Oh, man.
1433
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,360
He told me some stuff about his
childhood and living on the street.
1434
01:12:00,790 --> 01:12:03,245
He was in a bad spot
and used and abused and
1435
01:12:03,246 --> 01:12:06,821
just a lot of bad stuff
that I had no idea.
1436
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Nobody feels sorry for me, man.
1437
01:12:11,215 --> 01:12:13,572
You know, he had phoned
me from the road and he'd been
1438
01:12:13,573 --> 01:12:15,920
in his hotel room for three
days with the lights off.
1439
01:12:16,540 --> 01:12:17,240
He was depressed.
1440
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,120
There was things on his mind
that went back to his childhood.
1441
01:12:21,740 --> 01:12:25,060
His mind went to spots
that weren't good for him.
1442
01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:31,360
He still had that crumbling part inside
his soul that he could never mend.
1443
01:12:32,490 --> 01:12:37,400
He was so depressed at times,
I'm sure that he did think of suicide.
1444
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,120
He wouldn't follow through with it
because, as he would be the first to say,
1445
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,160
he's not a coward and
that's a coward's way out.
1446
01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:50,100
But he was so sad at times inside himself
that I know that he did think of suicide.
1447
01:12:50,101 --> 01:12:51,116
And I think that occasionally.
1448
01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:52,260
And that's heartbreaking.
1449
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:16,921
As he started to wind down
wrestling, he really started
1450
01:13:16,922 --> 01:13:21,040
to have fun going into
acting as well as comedy.
1451
01:13:21,415 --> 01:13:22,420
And I looked over.
1452
01:13:22,421 --> 01:13:25,980
And my hotel door
was just f****** gone.
1453
01:13:28,540 --> 01:13:32,120
In a weird way, I think it was a
therapeutic thing that he realized that
1454
01:13:32,121 --> 01:13:35,201
just because he couldn't wrestle anymore
didn't mean that he couldn't perform.
1455
01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:37,720
Over here is Hogan.
1456
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:39,660
He's naked.
1457
01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:44,620
He's putting suntan lotion on.
1458
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:46,740
He enjoyed telling
these stories.
1459
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,580
He enjoyed
connecting with his fans.
1460
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:51,140
And that was something that
he was very passionate about.
1461
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:52,400
May all your dreams come true.
1462
01:13:52,401 --> 01:13:54,080
God bless you.
1463
01:13:54,820 --> 01:13:55,980
How cool is that?
1464
01:13:56,220 --> 01:13:56,780
Roddy!
1465
01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:57,900
Roddy Piper!
1466
01:13:58,220 --> 01:14:05,500
January of 2009, his manager reached out
and said, would you have any interest in
1467
01:14:05,501 --> 01:14:08,760
helping Roddy cultivate
a stand-up comedy act?
1468
01:14:08,980 --> 01:14:11,380
And I was like, absolutely.
1469
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:14,334
But here's the thing, when
you watch pro wrestling
1470
01:14:14,335 --> 01:14:16,660
with brothers, that
wasn't even a TV show.
1471
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,160
That was an instruction guide
on how to hurt each other.
1472
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:20,540
That's all it was.
1473
01:14:20,541 --> 01:14:25,215
I grew up in the middle of three
boys in suburban Philadelphia
1474
01:14:25,216 --> 01:14:29,400
in really the golden age of
modern professional wrestling.
1475
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:34,180
I remember being a
kid when he showed up.
1476
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,080
He was the worst.
1477
01:14:36,285 --> 01:14:39,092
I remember being a chubby
11-year-old kid buying
1478
01:14:39,093 --> 01:14:42,181
a T-shirt that said, I
hate Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1479
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,540
Like he could get you
to yell at a television set.
1480
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,520
And meeting Roddy was like
meeting somebody out of a comic book.
1481
01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:58,220
That began a really cool relationship
where I would just listen to stories and
1482
01:14:58,221 --> 01:15:01,920
try to help him craft that
into some sort of cohesive act.
1483
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:12,935
As a comedian, I have an
unbelievable amount of respect
1484
01:15:12,936 --> 01:15:16,520
for somebody that can
connect with audiences online.
1485
01:15:16,521 --> 01:15:17,641
He was on such a deep level.
1486
01:15:18,265 --> 01:15:20,000
That was his mutant ability.
1487
01:15:20,420 --> 01:15:21,860
Like that power walking guy.
1488
01:15:23,740 --> 01:15:27,240
I got to go through Roddy's life
with him on a comedic journey.
1489
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,480
But hearing his life
experience was just so amazing.
1490
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,040
I don't have a fancy ending
for it just to humiliate anyone.
1491
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,900
Roddy's darkness is one of the things
that drew him to stand-up comedy.
1492
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,360
You can turn pain into joy.
1493
01:15:47,580 --> 01:15:50,800
And making people
laugh meant a lot to him.
1494
01:15:52,650 --> 01:15:59,900
He is the WWE Hall of Famer and one
of the all-time greats, Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1495
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,460
When he would get off the road, he
would be tired or hurt and he'd recover.
1496
01:16:04,090 --> 01:16:06,938
But there was never a
time that he did an interview
1497
01:16:06,939 --> 01:16:09,521
where he got on camera
and he couldn't turn it on.
1498
01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:10,660
What was the question?
1499
01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:12,660
This time it was different.
1500
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,520
He had this interviewer.
1501
01:16:14,540 --> 01:16:15,060
Yeah, yeah.
1502
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,300
And he gets on and he's like,
can't put his thoughts together.
1503
01:16:18,610 --> 01:16:20,980
But what I don't
think is on our honor.
1504
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,700
Let me try to do this.
1505
01:16:25,215 --> 01:16:27,146
It's one of those things that
as a family member, when
1506
01:16:27,147 --> 01:16:29,920
you know someone close and
you're like, they're being odd.
1507
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:37,320
I went into a Mexican restaurant
with my youngest daughter who's in...
1508
01:16:37,940 --> 01:16:42,860
It was heartbreaking because
that was not the man I knew.
1509
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,520
There was obvious a
problem he was having.
1510
01:16:45,620 --> 01:16:47,000
I just think
that it's a little...
1511
01:16:47,001 --> 01:16:50,440
It was like the moment the
world knew something was wrong.
1512
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:56,480
And a few days later,
Roddy was home.
1513
01:16:57,220 --> 01:16:58,580
He was very tired that night.
1514
01:16:59,065 --> 01:17:00,945
We were going to go see
his doctor the next day.
1515
01:17:00,980 --> 01:17:02,120
We decided to do that.
1516
01:17:03,050 --> 01:17:06,040
And we went to bed and
he passed away in his sleep.
1517
01:17:08,355 --> 01:17:09,355
His heart failed.
1518
01:17:09,620 --> 01:17:12,840
As far as the specifics as to what was
causing it, it probably wasn't the heart.
1519
01:17:12,841 --> 01:17:15,340
It was a combination
of his entire life.
1520
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,560
I am so grateful
that he was home.
1521
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:27,780
Because even at that age, so many days
of the year, he was gone away from home.
1522
01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:29,020
And he could have been alone.
1523
01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:30,540
Sorry.
1524
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:35,480
And I'm just very grateful that he
was home with me when he passed.
1525
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,360
You know, the news came
that he passed away, you know.
1526
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,420
And I felt like I got
shot in the chest.
1527
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:46,560
With a cannon, you know.
1528
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:50,120
And it kind of like knocked
me off track for a couple of days.
1529
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,360
And then all of a sudden,
I get this voice message.
1530
01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:55,910
It was really weird because
either my phone was messed up.
1531
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,751
Sometimes you'll get
a text message at that
1532
01:17:57,752 --> 01:18:00,701
night when it was sent
to you in the morning.
1533
01:18:00,860 --> 01:18:02,460
I saw the light.
1534
01:18:02,980 --> 01:18:05,020
I'm walking with Jesus
today, my brother.
1535
01:18:05,650 --> 01:18:06,650
Walking with Jesus.
1536
01:18:07,245 --> 01:18:08,500
Loving you and praying for you.
1537
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:10,820
It really spooked me out.
1538
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,720
Like, hmm, alien
thing, you know.
1539
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,200
Like, close encounters.
1540
01:18:14,201 --> 01:18:18,280
It's crazy to get a voice message
from somebody after they passed away.
1541
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:21,520
And especially for him to say, I'm loving
you and walking with Jesus, my brother.
1542
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:23,636
Just loving you and
walking with Jesus.
1543
01:18:23,660 --> 01:18:24,660
I was like, wow.
1544
01:18:26,020 --> 01:18:27,020
Totally screwed me up.
1545
01:18:45,540 --> 01:18:47,120
It's surreal being
here without him.
1546
01:18:47,220 --> 01:18:47,600
It is.
1547
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:48,280
It is.
1548
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:49,160
It's different experience.
1549
01:18:49,161 --> 01:18:50,161
That's for sure.
1550
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:51,500
Bye.
1551
01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:52,540
Oh, welcome back.
1552
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Good to see you again.
1553
01:18:59,241 --> 01:18:59,540
How are you?
1554
01:18:59,580 --> 01:19:00,580
So good to see you.
1555
01:19:00,620 --> 01:19:01,320
Oh my God.
1556
01:19:01,580 --> 01:19:03,976
When I first started doing MMA, I
was trying to think of a fight name.
1557
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,499
And of course, the first
thing that everybody thought
1558
01:19:06,539 --> 01:19:07,660
of was like, what do
you think is a fight name?
1559
01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:08,100
Well, Rowdy.
1560
01:19:08,180 --> 01:19:09,160
Rowdy Warner Rousey.
1561
01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:11,640
Like, I know, but like Rowdy
Roddy Piper already has that.
1562
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,840
I didn't want to steal it.
1563
01:19:13,580 --> 01:19:18,700
Until I happened to see the original
Rowdy one and got his blessing.
1564
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,820
And yeah, he was
very sweet about it.
1565
01:19:20,821 --> 01:19:22,880
He was like, yeah,
sure kid, no problem.
1566
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,096
Better do the name Proud
or something like that.
1567
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,120
I don't know.
1568
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:27,820
And then Kitty, my mom.
1569
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:28,160
Hi.
1570
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:33,540
Thank you so
much for everything.
1571
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,680
Thank you for trusting me.
1572
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,080
Absolutely.
1573
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:37,320
Absolutely.
1574
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:41,740
I mean, Rowdy would dig that you
have such continued success, you know?
1575
01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:44,559
And he would...
couldn't be prouder, I'm
1576
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,300
sure, of your representation
of the Rowdyness.
1577
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:48,840
No one can do it better.
1578
01:19:49,140 --> 01:19:50,320
Thank you so much.
1579
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:50,800
Thank you.
1580
01:19:50,820 --> 01:19:51,820
Thank you so, so much.
1581
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,500
He was a loner and a wolf.
1582
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,060
And he was often misunderstood.
1583
01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:01,660
I was so wild.
1584
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,440
Scary wild.
1585
01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:08,640
But he was always
100% in your face.
1586
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,500
You do not throw rocks at a
man who's got a machine gun.
1587
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:13,920
This is what you get.
1588
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,040
I am who I am.
1589
01:20:15,220 --> 01:20:17,760
What you got here is all man.
1590
01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:19,680
He didn't change for anybody.
1591
01:20:19,681 --> 01:20:23,060
We are the most popular
wrestlers in the entire world.
1592
01:20:23,180 --> 01:20:25,880
I haven't found anyone
that has what Rowdy had.
1593
01:20:27,340 --> 01:20:29,920
Love life lived it to its max.
1594
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:34,160
He came in spitting fire
and cropping thunder.
1595
01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:40,480
I am the legend killer.
1596
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,718
He started with so little
and ended with so much
1597
01:20:43,719 --> 01:20:46,601
and had every hardship
thrown at him along the way.
1598
01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:48,060
That's my dad's legacy.
1599
01:20:48,061 --> 01:20:49,781
I hope it is one that
gives people strength.
1600
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,260
I still hear new stories
about him all the time.
1601
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,430
And I realize how lucky
I am to have a father
1602
01:20:56,431 --> 01:21:00,001
that has impacted so
many people in the world.
1603
01:21:02,620 --> 01:21:03,920
Best part of my job?
1604
01:21:05,380 --> 01:21:09,760
When you come with your daddy
and your mommy and you're all excited.
1605
01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:16,320
He can put a smile
on a little boy's face.
1606
01:21:17,380 --> 01:21:18,040
That's incredible.
1607
01:21:18,041 --> 01:21:21,420
That's the greatest reward a
guy could ever have in his life.
1608
01:21:23,140 --> 01:21:24,140
Thank you.
1609
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:25,960
I love you too.
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