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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,880 I'm going to take my phone here. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,200 Roddy! 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,580 Yeah, I'm doing great. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,600 How are you? 5 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:12,180 I'm just getting ready to do an interview about you. 6 00:00:13,650 --> 00:00:14,850 A little warm down there, huh? 7 00:00:15,460 --> 00:00:16,460 You what? 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,400 I... 9 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:20,580 Yeah, not anytime soon, though. 10 00:00:21,810 --> 00:00:23,060 You're holding a place for me. 11 00:00:23,860 --> 00:00:25,500 Right next to you at the table, huh? 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,520 Great. 13 00:00:27,550 --> 00:00:29,740 No, I'm just going to talk about you. 14 00:00:29,741 --> 00:00:31,421 It's all good things not to worry about it. 15 00:00:31,860 --> 00:00:32,860 But great. 16 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,520 Thanks, Roddy. 17 00:00:38,980 --> 00:00:39,740 Roddy's in heaven. 18 00:00:39,820 --> 00:00:40,820 Roddy's not in hell. 19 00:00:58,430 --> 00:01:03,530 Coming to the WWE, I really wanted to make sure that every single time that I walked 20 00:01:03,531 --> 00:01:06,130 out there, everyone remembered Roddy, Roddy Piper. 21 00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:10,250 Roddy is the only name I could have taken on. 22 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:15,010 I wanted to make sure that that next generation of kids knew who he was and 23 00:01:15,011 --> 00:01:17,770 respected his memory and what he's contributed to the business. 24 00:01:19,250 --> 00:01:23,430 When I ran into Piper, he's the one that made everything else possible. 25 00:01:24,490 --> 00:01:26,930 He was the key, the cog in the wheel. 26 00:01:26,970 --> 00:01:29,610 Without Piper, we could have never launched into the stratosphere. 27 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:31,010 It's as simple as this. 28 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:33,670 When our Pete talks, brother, people listen. 29 00:01:33,850 --> 00:01:35,150 He was the ultimate bad guy. 30 00:01:35,370 --> 00:01:36,370 How you doing, fatso? 31 00:01:37,170 --> 00:01:38,290 He sold it. 32 00:01:38,330 --> 00:01:38,770 He packed it. 33 00:01:38,830 --> 00:01:39,910 He was good at what he did. 34 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:45,450 Just when they think they got the answers, I change the question. 35 00:01:45,690 --> 00:01:50,130 Even if you had never heard of Roddy Piper, you could tell you didn't like this guy. 36 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:51,550 Nobody messes with Piper! 37 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:52,710 He was riveting. 38 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:54,430 I've seen a lot of men buried! 39 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:58,230 A really good-hearted guy, a really tough son of a bitch. 40 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:01,690 He was not like any other wrestler. 41 00:02:01,950 --> 00:02:03,750 He was in his own world. 42 00:02:04,215 --> 00:02:05,590 Real strong family man. 43 00:02:06,095 --> 00:02:09,630 He kept his family completely out of it. 44 00:02:09,970 --> 00:02:12,810 And I think he took too much of it on himself. 45 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:18,370 Everything he did from the moment he walked out of the ring, rubbed people wrong. 46 00:02:18,550 --> 00:02:21,730 You're gonna see something you've never seen in your life before! 47 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:24,110 Whatever it was, he went against the grain. 48 00:02:24,370 --> 00:02:26,450 And he just lived in that glory. 49 00:02:38,365 --> 00:02:40,460 You know, God takes care of fools and babies. 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,060 Before I was a pro wrestler, I got hit by a pickup truck. 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,820 I lived in an Indian reservation. 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,520 I had tonsillitis, so they took out my appendix. 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,560 I moved a lot. 54 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,520 I got hurt a lot as a little kid. 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,740 My dad, Roddy Piper, he was born in Canada, in a place called Saskatoon, 56 00:03:04,820 --> 00:03:08,320 Saskatchewan, which is one of the coldest places in the world. 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,820 He used to tell me, you know, the story of running uphill both ways to school, right? 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,280 In the snow? 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,440 He actually did that. 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,980 His dad was a police officer that worked for the railroad. 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,340 And this meant that they traveled 24-7. 62 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:24,600 They would spend a week in one town, a week in the next. 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,700 I think he was about 10 years old. 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,240 He was on an Indian reservation for about six months. 65 00:03:30,790 --> 00:03:32,150 And he's the only white kid on it. 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,020 Everybody else is Indian, and they don't like white people at the time. 67 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,420 So he had to learn how to fight his way through and get their respect. 68 00:03:40,170 --> 00:03:43,340 So every few months, no matter where he was going, he would have to start over, 69 00:03:43,810 --> 00:03:46,840 build his reputation, and be the tough guy so he wouldn't get hurt. 70 00:03:47,290 --> 00:03:49,766 He would go out and get in trouble and come 71 00:03:49,767 --> 00:03:53,001 home and face all kinds of physical punishment. 72 00:03:54,965 --> 00:03:57,980 It was a hard Victorian upbringing. 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Very strict. 74 00:04:00,380 --> 00:04:03,695 Being the youngest, he always kind of felt like he was 75 00:04:03,696 --> 00:04:06,320 an afterthought in his family is what he would tell me. 76 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:07,960 Like he wasn't expected. 77 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:10,100 Not a lot of hugs. 78 00:04:11,045 --> 00:04:12,720 Not a lot of verbal I love you's. 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,480 My grandpa did beat my dad. 80 00:04:15,660 --> 00:04:19,880 I don't know how often, but he was physical enough with him that it was a 81 00:04:19,881 --> 00:04:22,441 dark place that my dad never really wanted to talk about with us. 82 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,660 You're 12. 83 00:04:23,661 --> 00:04:24,220 11. 84 00:04:24,580 --> 00:04:25,580 10 years old. 85 00:04:26,290 --> 00:04:27,320 You move 10 times. 86 00:04:28,330 --> 00:04:30,010 Then all of a sudden you get into a fight. 87 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:33,160 You come back home and you get into a fight because you got into a fight. 88 00:04:33,260 --> 00:04:34,260 You know, it's... 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:45,220 I don't think that punishment, physical punishment, is a way to raise a kid. 90 00:04:45,380 --> 00:04:47,380 None of it goes out of my house ever. 91 00:04:49,055 --> 00:04:54,280 There was a lot of trauma in his childhood and it followed him. 92 00:04:54,430 --> 00:04:57,358 He seemed like the kind of person that always had a demon 93 00:04:57,359 --> 00:05:00,580 or something on his shoulder and that he was fighting with. 94 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:03,900 And I think that that started at a very, very young age, long before wrestling. 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,980 I got into my bagpipes a lot. 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,520 And it kind of pulled me away from everybody. 97 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,122 I don't know how, but that's where I started 98 00:05:16,123 --> 00:05:18,881 when I was six years old playing the bagpipes. 99 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:21,060 It was a place for me to go. 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,200 It was loud. 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,360 People knew, don't interrupt. 102 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:27,340 It actually became a hideaway for me. 103 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:34,300 One day, I was in my house and there was a knock at my back door. 104 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,840 And there was two friends of mine with this new guy, Rod. 105 00:05:39,820 --> 00:05:42,994 And so they said to me, Cam, you're a pretty tough 106 00:05:43,094 --> 00:05:45,940 guy and this new guy, Rod, he's a pretty tough guy. 107 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,160 Why don't you have a fight? 108 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:48,840 I said, sure. 109 00:05:49,380 --> 00:05:51,000 And we went at it. 110 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:53,782 Like in the movies, he drilled me a good one and I 111 00:05:53,783 --> 00:05:57,520 flew over top of my motorcycle and he won the fight. 112 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,366 As I found out later, Rod told me he was the 113 00:06:00,367 --> 00:06:03,461 light heavyweight boxing champ in Toronto. 114 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:07,460 And from that point on, we became best friends. 115 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:12,660 He was a high school wrestler and he was number two in the city. 116 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:15,480 That was his goal, was to be a wrestler. 117 00:06:16,915 --> 00:06:19,020 And he did graduate school. 118 00:06:19,220 --> 00:06:20,440 He finally did leave home. 119 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:23,860 He would have liked a better relationship with his father, you know? 120 00:06:24,450 --> 00:06:25,450 That was eating him up. 121 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,539 As Rod became a young adult, it just became 122 00:06:28,540 --> 00:06:30,660 too much because Rod wanted to get rough back. 123 00:06:31,005 --> 00:06:34,020 The only other choice would be to have an all-out brawl with your father. 124 00:06:35,370 --> 00:06:38,600 He left home and was out on his own. 125 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:40,540 It's just time to go. 126 00:06:41,010 --> 00:06:43,300 So I took my bagpipes and I just never went back. 127 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:45,420 He was really a nomad. 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,101 He went to youth hostels, YMCAs, anywhere, 129 00:06:49,102 --> 00:06:51,600 usually back then, five bucks for the night. 130 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:53,143 And you could do it or you'd get there and it'd 131 00:06:53,144 --> 00:06:55,641 be full so you would be on the street that night. 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,846 I had to make money, so I played my bagpipes 133 00:06:57,847 --> 00:07:00,461 and I'd get quarters or whatever they give me. 134 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,500 You sleep during the day. 135 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:04,220 It's too dangerous to sleep at nighttime. 136 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:06,828 At nighttime you get cold, you get hungry, and so 137 00:07:06,829 --> 00:07:09,421 you start to try to feed some of these necessities. 138 00:07:09,460 --> 00:07:13,700 I started stealing what I needed and then got with a group of bad guys. 139 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,705 You know, all of a sudden you're carrying a 140 00:07:15,706 --> 00:07:18,541 switchblade and, you know, and then the fights. 141 00:07:18,785 --> 00:07:23,000 Now I was getting off on this bully type of thing, which I hated. 142 00:07:23,260 --> 00:07:24,640 He was beaten up. 143 00:07:24,810 --> 00:07:26,100 He was made fun of. 144 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Half of those beatings were because somebody was trying to sexually abuse him. 145 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:30,500 And you fight back. 146 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:33,482 You know, I think he did a little robbery here 147 00:07:33,483 --> 00:07:35,880 and there and he was terribly ashamed of it. 148 00:07:36,130 --> 00:07:37,860 It was a brief part of his life. 149 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,420 He also would fight. 150 00:07:40,850 --> 00:07:45,721 People would pay to see him fight on the street, doing whatever it takes to survive. 151 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,740 I was living in a youth hostel. 152 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:50,653 This is Father O'Malley, you know, he says, you know, 153 00:07:50,654 --> 00:07:52,820 Roderick, have you ever seen professional wrestling? 154 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,840 I said, no, sir. 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,940 He says, I can get you $25. 156 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,760 You know, that was like three months' rent. 157 00:07:58,885 --> 00:08:01,029 He was 15 years old when he had his first 158 00:08:01,030 --> 00:08:03,220 professional fight against Larry the Axe Henning. 159 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Larry Henning coming into the ring... You know, Rod, he knew that he needed an angle. 160 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:13,240 I don't believe at that time he'd come up with Rowdy Roddy Piper. 161 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:16,660 His name was Rod Toombs, so he went by that name. 162 00:08:18,180 --> 00:08:21,440 I don't know how many wrestlers can play the bagpipes and has kilts. 163 00:08:21,925 --> 00:08:24,882 So that's what he did to distinguish himself 164 00:08:24,883 --> 00:08:27,761 based on the talent that he actually had. 165 00:08:28,060 --> 00:08:30,560 The announcer, he just knew my name was Roddy. 166 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,256 He had to announce something and he says, ladies 167 00:08:34,257 --> 00:08:37,941 and gentlemen, here comes Roddy the Piper. 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:43,480 He was just naturally good at it and then that evolved into his wrestling career 169 00:08:43,481 --> 00:08:46,260 since it was a special skill that he could use as a gimmick. 170 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:50,040 People would stand up and say, you know, and yell at him. 171 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:53,780 That was his goal was to get people pissed off at him. 172 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:56,180 So they're gonna look in the program, who is this guy? 173 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:59,304 My nose is broke, you know, and Larry only hit me 174 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:01,640 twice, but he did a good job and I was drooping. 175 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,676 He says, kid, how'd you like to go to Kansas City? 176 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:06,820 And that's how I got into pro wrestling and I never stopped. 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,960 He knew that there was gonna be many days that he didn't know where the next 178 00:09:11,961 --> 00:09:16,220 paycheck was coming and so he just threw himself at it. 179 00:09:16,420 --> 00:09:18,060 That took him all across Canada. 180 00:09:18,061 --> 00:09:22,040 And then into the States, and just wherever he could get a job. 181 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,940 When wrestling came along, that's why I just went home. 182 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,120 Because it had all the elements without the police. 183 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:35,200 There were more than two dozen wrestling territories in North America. 184 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,473 So that meant that guys could make a living 185 00:09:38,474 --> 00:09:41,220 uprooting, going from territory to territory. 186 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:44,480 I'm so fortunate to have wrestling and the way it evolved. 187 00:09:44,780 --> 00:09:48,040 If it hadn't, I would have been dead in North America. 188 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:49,140 I would not have bought it. 189 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:54,620 I've got a baby face that looks 12 in a dress 190 00:09:54,621 --> 00:09:57,900 playing bagpipes and they just beat me up. 191 00:09:58,140 --> 00:09:59,651 So when you're just getting in, you're 192 00:09:59,663 --> 00:10:01,420 breaking into pro wrestling, what do you do? 193 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:05,180 They beat you up and you have to continuously get up and keep coming back. 194 00:10:06,020 --> 00:10:10,420 I got my first break in Los Angeles and holy cow. 195 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,280 Really, really brutal, brutal days. 196 00:10:18,465 --> 00:10:19,800 Roddy came into the gym. 197 00:10:21,060 --> 00:10:22,660 He says, what are you doing? 198 00:10:22,820 --> 00:10:28,000 You going to sweep up the place or sell hot doggies, chicken on a bun? 199 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,340 He says, no, I'm a wrestler. 200 00:10:31,410 --> 00:10:34,220 And I says, you look like you got polio in your stomach. 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,280 You're so small. 202 00:10:35,870 --> 00:10:37,060 You'll never make it. 203 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,400 You got to learn how to wrestle. 204 00:10:39,020 --> 00:10:40,740 So you could be a sadistic bastard. 205 00:10:41,570 --> 00:10:43,354 We're going to see things that are different that's 206 00:10:43,444 --> 00:10:46,560 never been seen before, ever, ever on any film. 207 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:50,080 Don't protest. 208 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:53,440 Don't practice this without a qualified instructor right there with you. 209 00:10:54,760 --> 00:11:00,480 Judo Gene, if you don't know, look him up, was the toughest man in the world. 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,420 Trained Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Rowdy Ronda Rousey. 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Gene LaBelle, I would consider the most decorated stuntman of all time. 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,640 He was in the first ever televised MMA event. 213 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,234 When I was doing Judo, he would help me a lot and when I got 214 00:11:20,235 --> 00:11:23,080 into MMA, he was in my corner for like every single match. 215 00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:27,200 Judo Gene saw that these guys were bullying me 216 00:11:27,201 --> 00:11:29,540 and Gene would tell me what to do on the fly. 217 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:32,320 You gotta beat him with the dark side of the moon. 218 00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:35,280 Rowdy say, well, what's the dark side of the moon? 219 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:39,360 Well, what the referee doesn't see didn't happen. 220 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:40,980 Watch you don't make the eyes out. 221 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:43,460 Throat's a great handle. 222 00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:51,560 He'd call me late at night and my wife said, hey, it must be Roddy calling again. 223 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 So he says, hey, let's go roll for a couple hours. 224 00:11:55,820 --> 00:11:57,020 We worked out hard. 225 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,020 No playing games. 226 00:11:59,430 --> 00:12:01,300 He wanted to know how to wrestle. 227 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,640 The LaBelle family is their legendary. 228 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,700 They ran the Olympic auditorium and because dad had earned their respect, 229 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,780 he was able then to wrestle there in LA for the LaBelle family. 230 00:12:13,020 --> 00:12:16,980 And that is really where dad got the chance to spread his wings and really 231 00:12:16,981 --> 00:12:21,540 become not just another fighter, but the one they came to see. 232 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,147 One of my favorite memories with him is when I 233 00:12:30,148 --> 00:12:33,410 was like 15, he brought me to LA to see Hollywood. 234 00:12:33,730 --> 00:12:36,290 And I wanted to be an actress and singer. 235 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:39,038 And so to me, Hollywood was like, woo, Marilyn 236 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:41,210 Monroe handprints and glamour and all of that. 237 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:44,009 And we get here, he rents a car and he's like, 238 00:12:44,010 --> 00:12:46,911 all right, kid, I'm going to take you around town. 239 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:50,070 First thing he does is he goes somewhere. 240 00:12:50,071 --> 00:12:52,390 Somewhere into like the Compton maybe area. 241 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:54,746 I was a little young to understand what I was looking at. 242 00:12:54,770 --> 00:12:58,270 And he was like, that's where your father slept on the streets. 243 00:12:58,910 --> 00:13:01,550 A woman got murdered right outside my window. 244 00:13:01,810 --> 00:13:04,010 But I didn't say anything because I'm not a snitch. 245 00:13:04,270 --> 00:13:07,090 It's just telling me these horrific stories. 246 00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:11,650 So then I come home from that vacation. 247 00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:14,430 My friends asked me, they're like, how's Hollywood? 248 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:16,406 And I was like, they're like, did you see this and that? 249 00:13:16,430 --> 00:13:19,530 I was like, I think I got the wrestler's tour. 250 00:13:19,650 --> 00:13:20,650 And I was like, 251 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:31,320 I was born and grew up in Los Angeles. 252 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:34,329 Some of my earliest memories that I have are actually about 253 00:13:34,353 --> 00:13:36,600 professional wrestling, being a professional wrestling fan. 254 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,000 I can remember going down on the bus running with my stepfather trying to catch 255 00:13:41,001 --> 00:13:42,681 a bus to go down to the Olympic auditorium. 256 00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:45,651 In 1976, one of the new faces in the territory 257 00:13:45,652 --> 00:13:48,321 was a young lad by the name of Roddy Piper. 258 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,420 He was 21 years old. 259 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,820 He was a young, fresh faced kid. 260 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:55,640 Fans give him a light applause. 261 00:13:57,340 --> 00:13:59,860 They start wrestling and it starts out as a clean match. 262 00:14:00,260 --> 00:14:03,325 But little by little, subtly, he starts doing 263 00:14:03,326 --> 00:14:06,721 these things that only a villain would do. 264 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:09,485 He was fighting and he was giving people kicks 265 00:14:09,486 --> 00:14:12,421 to the groin during this wrestling match. 266 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,660 It was like watching a caterpillar transform into a butterfly. 267 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,920 And you just saw this magic happening before your eyes. 268 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,800 People were booing Roddy Piper. 269 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,620 They absolutely hated who he was. 270 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:28,040 I am the intelligence. 271 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,860 I think the most controversial thing I did was stir up controversy. 272 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:34,100 Because it draws money. 273 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,100 Conflict draws money. 274 00:14:36,460 --> 00:14:38,000 The wheels are always turning for him. 275 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,900 I said, what can I say? 276 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,040 What can I do next? 277 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,796 Because you had to keep them interested. 278 00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:43,140 You had to keep them coming back. 279 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:44,960 There's no way, Piper! 280 00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:46,220 Hey! 281 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:47,780 Piper! 282 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,900 Anything he did, he wanted to be good at it. 283 00:14:51,155 --> 00:14:52,915 I don't plan to go in there and make it easy. 284 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,720 I don't plan to go in there and not have some knocks on my own knocking bell. 285 00:14:56,930 --> 00:15:00,583 And they used him to do the interviews because 286 00:15:00,584 --> 00:15:04,500 he would showboat and help sell boletos, tickets. 287 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,360 You're a pink Guerrero! 288 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:12,180 Your father was and you're a pink Guerrero! 289 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:16,580 The Guerrero family was one of the first families in professional wrestling. 290 00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:19,920 If you're of Latino descent, you didn't really see 291 00:15:19,921 --> 00:15:22,980 a lot of faces on television that were like yours. 292 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,111 And usually if you did, they played the roles 293 00:15:25,112 --> 00:15:27,661 of a gardener or they played the role of a maid. 294 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:33,940 So for us to see the Guerrero family in hero roles was very important. 295 00:15:35,255 --> 00:15:36,255 We worshiped them. 296 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,276 You get in that ring, Chavo Guerrero, and it's going to be all over for you, 297 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,376 brother, because I don't give a damn about nothing no more. 298 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,660 When Roddy Piper would insult the Guerreros, we took it very personally. 299 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,226 You sitting at home with your fat bellies and your 300 00:15:49,227 --> 00:15:52,840 construction boats drinking your beer, you know who I am! 301 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,000 Roddy really had the whole package. 302 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,941 In the ring, he was a dirty wrestler, but he had all this tremendous frenetic energy. 303 00:16:00,340 --> 00:16:02,960 But also, he knew how to get a reaction out of the fans. 304 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,460 And one of the ways he would do that was to bring his bagpipes out to the ring. 305 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,540 One time, he told everybody and silenced the entire stadium. 306 00:16:12,175 --> 00:16:17,120 He'd play the Mexican national anthem to apologize for attacking the Guerreros. 307 00:16:18,225 --> 00:16:20,580 I said, you know, I love you people. 308 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,580 I'd like to do something special. 309 00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:29,880 And all the wonderful Hispanic people came in and I'm in the ring. 310 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:37,160 And please stand for the Mexican national anthem. 311 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:47,500 Just like this, I said to myself, I put those bagpipes up, man. 312 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:49,230 It's too late, right? 313 00:16:49,930 --> 00:16:51,330 And Roddy starts playing his notes. 314 00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:55,240 And it's not the Mexican national anthem, but he starts playing La Cucaracha. 315 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,980 He starts playing a song about a cockroach. 316 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,740 La cucaracha, la cucaracha, little funny little. 317 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:10,600 Holy cow, Chairs were bolted down in the cement. 318 00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:12,160 Here they come. 319 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,700 And the fans, 320 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,760 they're just shocked. 321 00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:19,300 Chairs come up. 322 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,500 Things are being thrown. 323 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,140 Stages being overcome. 324 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,860 It was like watching a car wreck, you know? 325 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,451 It's a horrible thing I've seen the scene, but at 326 00:17:26,452 --> 00:17:28,300 the same time you can't take your eyes away from it. 327 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,460 I was there that night, and I was going to whiz in my pants. 328 00:17:35,140 --> 00:17:36,640 You can't write that kind of stuff. 329 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:38,920 I said, this guy is a natural. 330 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,380 You had to move around, especially as a bad guy. 331 00:17:53,880 --> 00:18:00,200 You would run your course, and then you needed to go on and find another place to 332 00:18:00,201 --> 00:18:04,340 go and stake your claim for a while, and then you would move on somewhere else. 333 00:18:04,341 --> 00:18:10,200 I am extremely pleased to take my wonderful trophy. 334 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,380 Once I left Los Angeles, and I went to Portland, nobody knew who I was. 335 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,180 So you had to start all over again. 336 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:26,450 32nd birthday gift. 337 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:29,390 31. 338 00:18:29,730 --> 00:18:30,210 32. 339 00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:31,710 Did you find the choke? 340 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:32,170 Yeah. 341 00:18:32,290 --> 00:18:35,410 Okay, kick the engine over, leaving the throttle closed. 342 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:38,910 It's probably just new. 343 00:18:38,970 --> 00:18:40,010 It takes a lot of control. 344 00:18:40,011 --> 00:18:41,011 It takes a lot of kicks. 345 00:18:41,790 --> 00:18:43,770 I met Roddy in 1979. 346 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:49,530 I was working graveyard shift as a waitress, just southwest side of Portland. 347 00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:55,210 Roderick, you're lucky I had it high enough that that didn't show. 348 00:18:57,410 --> 00:18:59,990 He was the funniest human being on the planet. 349 00:19:00,650 --> 00:19:01,650 Is that it? 350 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:05,770 Oh, the guy, all the wrinkles on my face are from him. 351 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:06,910 Him making me laugh. 352 00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:09,110 I was young. 353 00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:10,310 I was nine years old. 354 00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:14,050 And so all the other waitresses would say, you go wait on those wrestlers. 355 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,170 Prime rib was always what he got. 356 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:19,750 He got two, ordered two prime ribs and always two pieces of lemon pie. 357 00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:23,410 He started asking me, hey, can I have your phone number? 358 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:24,510 I'd like to ask you out. 359 00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:27,670 I thought he was cute as heck. 360 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:28,946 I thought he was cute as heck. 361 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:31,630 But the crowd he was with was so loud. 362 00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:34,390 And so I'm like, nah, you know, hey, hi, hi. 363 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:38,290 And so we kind of flirted, but after about a month, his tag team partner, 364 00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:39,990 Killer Brooks, got down there. 365 00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:40,670 He's down on his knees. 366 00:19:40,790 --> 00:19:42,630 And he says, please give him your phone number. 367 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:45,311 I'm his tag team partner, and I'm getting beat to 368 00:19:45,312 --> 00:19:47,870 heck out there because he's only thinking about you. 369 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:49,110 He wants to get to know you. 370 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,230 So I said, OK, I'll take his phone number. 371 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:54,070 And then we hit it off. 372 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:03,630 Portland wrestling in the late 70s and early 80s was huge. 373 00:20:04,050 --> 00:20:05,690 The buildings were always packed. 374 00:20:06,430 --> 00:20:09,180 From the moment I started dating him, anywhere we would 375 00:20:09,181 --> 00:20:10,090 go, people would come in and say, hey, what's your name? 376 00:20:10,091 --> 00:20:11,171 And people knew who he was. 377 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,450 Everyone pretty much had the same reaction. 378 00:20:13,550 --> 00:20:14,550 They were shocked. 379 00:20:14,650 --> 00:20:20,751 But after they met him, they all understood that he was a genuine guy and caring. 380 00:20:24,850 --> 00:20:30,390 And to have to do something like when he attacked a woman wrestler, he has to do it 381 00:20:30,391 --> 00:20:33,990 over the top because it's so hard for him to do. 382 00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:37,190 This is why men wrestle and why women don't. 383 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:38,250 This is why. 384 00:20:40,550 --> 00:20:44,630 For Roddy, in real life, a woman is on a pedestal. 385 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:47,370 It's very old fashioned. 386 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:49,950 You would never hit a woman. 387 00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:50,670 You would never. 388 00:20:50,790 --> 00:20:51,910 insult a woman. 389 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:56,930 And I decided early on, I was going to love Roddy no matter what. 390 00:20:57,450 --> 00:21:02,230 I did and I do and wouldn't change it for the world. 391 00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:12,230 In Portland, it was a smaller territory. 392 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:13,190 closet. 393 00:21:13,191 --> 00:21:15,530 In Atlanta, the business was growing. 394 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:21,070 You had to move around, and you had to be able to go from territory to territory. 395 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,490 That's the way that the business worked at the time. 396 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,630 They called me on the East Coast. 397 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:29,370 I was ready at any time to get up and take a left-hand turn. 398 00:21:29,670 --> 00:21:32,870 And I drove the old yellow Canary right across the country. 399 00:21:38,490 --> 00:21:41,830 WTBS in Atlanta, Georgia, Ted Turner's Superstation. 400 00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:44,210 Wrestling was a staple. 401 00:21:46,810 --> 00:21:48,050 Here's Roddy Piper. 402 00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:51,390 Very few people knew who he was on a national basis. 403 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,910 He wasn't the biggest guy in the world, but the one 404 00:21:54,911 --> 00:21:58,430 thing that he did better than anybody else was talk. 405 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:00,690 It's a pleasure for you to have me here. 406 00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:03,490 I'm sure you see, being the expert that I am... 407 00:22:03,491 --> 00:22:08,217 The promoter realized Roddy knew how to tell a story, 408 00:22:08,218 --> 00:22:12,030 not just his own story, but other people's stories. 409 00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:13,970 People want to get familiar with me. 410 00:22:14,050 --> 00:22:18,010 He was brought in as Rod Piper, the color commentator. 411 00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:20,290 Sport coat, no-kill. 412 00:22:20,530 --> 00:22:25,750 And then the color commentator began to skew his views. 413 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,850 You got a big, big, big mouth. 414 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:32,630 They let a bald-headed geek like you... Maybe a little bit more nasty. 415 00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:35,150 You just stay out of my way, pig face. 416 00:22:35,290 --> 00:22:38,270 Maybe a little bit more against the fan favorites. 417 00:22:38,430 --> 00:22:40,130 And you won't have to worry about nothing. 418 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:40,690 Nothing, man. 419 00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:41,810 Pig face. 420 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:47,530 And they created another way to get this character over. 421 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:51,110 They say sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. 422 00:22:51,130 --> 00:22:54,370 Well, some of the words he said about me and my family have hurt me deeply. 423 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:56,126 Sticks and stones may break your bones. 424 00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:57,150 You are right! 425 00:22:57,910 --> 00:23:00,410 And I'm nuts enough to throw sticks and stones! 426 00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:04,750 Now you've got... I even kicked that commentator's butt. 427 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:09,610 The commentator was a wrestler and a tough guy. 428 00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:11,546 He got too close to the ropes and they go in! 429 00:23:11,570 --> 00:23:13,450 Now he comes out with the kill. 430 00:23:13,550 --> 00:23:14,990 A wild man, Roddy Piper! 431 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:16,850 Now he's Roddy Piper. 432 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:19,264 Roddy Piper, the only way that he's really been 433 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:22,211 outstanding in this match is his bad sportsmanship. 434 00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:26,010 They're trying to literally carry Piper out of the ring. 435 00:23:26,290 --> 00:23:27,850 I told you, Piper pays back! 436 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:30,990 I told you, nobody messes with Piper! 437 00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:35,650 When he wrestles as a bad guy, that was the most comfortable for him. 438 00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:38,230 Come out here right now and fight me like a man! 439 00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:39,210 Come right now! 440 00:23:39,211 --> 00:23:43,150 If you're a bad guy, fans aren't going to come up and shake your hand as much. 441 00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:46,970 He could be alone more if he was a bad guy. 442 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:52,931 Maybe because he was alone in life early on so often, that's where he was comfortable. 443 00:23:56,770 --> 00:24:01,170 As a kid, he was around some of the roughest people you can imagine. 444 00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:04,697 And sometimes I wonder if that's part of what 445 00:24:04,698 --> 00:24:07,670 pieced together that bad guy psychology that he had. 446 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:09,550 I am the legend killer. 447 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:13,950 So my dad did this thing. 448 00:24:14,170 --> 00:24:16,330 There were these yellow legal pads that he would write. 449 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:18,290 He would write all kinds of ideas. 450 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,214 Just in case he had the opportunity that a mic was 451 00:24:21,215 --> 00:24:23,551 handed to him so that he had something great to say. 452 00:24:23,610 --> 00:24:26,730 You know you couldn't get a date with a hundred dollar bill on your forehead. 453 00:24:26,890 --> 00:24:31,110 I wouldn't fight you if my grandma was threatened by the Huns. 454 00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:35,170 Sometimes maybe I heard it in the middle of a rock and roll song. 455 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:39,070 Just had a knack for putting that kind of stuff together. 456 00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:42,070 Of course I don't have to impress somebody, they gotta impress me. 457 00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:44,230 Because I'm Roddy Piper and you're not. 458 00:24:44,385 --> 00:24:47,730 And that's why he was so quick-witted because he put in work nobody else did. 459 00:24:48,165 --> 00:24:51,214 When everybody else was partying and drinking, which he 460 00:24:51,215 --> 00:24:53,591 did, he also was thinking and writing these things down. 461 00:24:53,675 --> 00:24:56,610 Like sometimes people say to me, you just say what comes off the top of your head. 462 00:24:56,975 --> 00:24:58,350 Oh f***ing horse s***. 463 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,790 You have no idea how much work went into it. 464 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,886 I seen a lot of men married wearing a $50 465 00:25:05,887 --> 00:25:09,831 Stetson and carrying a five buck gun you geek. 466 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:14,190 There was a guy named Rick Flair on the East Coast. 467 00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:17,530 The greatest wrestler in the whole entire wide 468 00:25:17,531 --> 00:25:19,930 world comes right out of the mid-Atlantic area. 469 00:25:20,150 --> 00:25:22,450 And Roddy Piper and I are glad to be here brother. 470 00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:25,590 Rick and I were so different, you know, I wear a kilt, Rick doesn't. 471 00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:27,310 He's blonde, I ain't. 472 00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:32,150 That we got along real well outside the ring. 473 00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:34,950 And then everything started to get out of control. 474 00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:38,108 Piper and Flair have formed a pact and where 475 00:25:38,109 --> 00:25:40,710 there's trouble, we won't be hard to find. 476 00:25:40,711 --> 00:25:41,450 He's got a belt! 477 00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:41,810 Yes! 478 00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:44,910 Well I knew, yeah I heard his name but I didn't know anything about him. 479 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:49,670 He came in the studio and I knew right away I was going to like him. 480 00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:52,550 He was full of himself and man, I mean talent. 481 00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:54,150 Rick Flair, Roddy Piper! 482 00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:55,710 There goes Joey Piper! 483 00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:57,330 That's what it's all about! 484 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:58,870 God, he was entertaining. 485 00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,770 It was so good that it made everybody mad. 486 00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:07,230 You're going to find it's a whole lot easier to jump on than it is to jump off. 487 00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:11,918 I had moved over there to the East Coast with 488 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:15,391 Roddy and we were expecting our first child. 489 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:17,370 It was very rowdy times. 490 00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:22,910 Roddy and Rick and other wrestlers, they lived on a planet that was theirs. 491 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:27,115 They were a wild, wild pair of men and lots of 492 00:26:27,116 --> 00:26:30,410 drinking and hotels getting damaged and such. 493 00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:33,736 Next thing I remember, I'm in my bed, my clothes 494 00:26:33,737 --> 00:26:35,950 are on, the doors knocked off the hinges. 495 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,210 I didn't know what happened. 496 00:26:37,211 --> 00:26:38,790 I got the hell out of here. 497 00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:43,190 You hear things, you know some things, you don't know a lot of things. 498 00:26:44,110 --> 00:26:47,430 Roddy was Roddy and that's what it was. 499 00:26:47,710 --> 00:26:51,650 We like our kamikazes on ice and our women on fire. 500 00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:52,906 You understand what I'm saying? 501 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:58,310 And everywhere we go, we do it better, longer, harder than anybody else! 502 00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:00,950 We were the Beatles, man. 503 00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:03,550 It was suicidal putting us together. 504 00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:05,990 Ingesting or drinking. 505 00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:07,490 Anything. 506 00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:09,690 Roddy could beat anybody to the draw. 507 00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:13,010 It just got way out of hand. 508 00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:17,150 This is where Ric Flair started the, you know, 99 kamikazes. 509 00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:19,950 And you know, here I'm like a fool, you know, I'm pretty hardcore, 510 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:21,190 man, pretty hardcore. 511 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,950 I'm drinking mine and I'll be the one I always get in trouble. 512 00:27:24,550 --> 00:27:28,430 It was a time to make money, but it was go, go, go, go, go. 513 00:27:28,570 --> 00:27:30,628 And you get three days off and then you come 514 00:27:30,629 --> 00:27:33,631 back on the road for another couple of weeks. 515 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:35,730 And I remember we were driving in a snowstorm. 516 00:27:35,731 --> 00:27:37,790 You know, we had beers and everything in the car. 517 00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:40,467 So we got out and we're all taking a leak on the side 518 00:27:40,468 --> 00:27:42,730 of the road and all of a sudden Roddy ran to the car. 519 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:46,470 And I remember it's like we ran after him because we knew that Roddy was in one of 520 00:27:46,471 --> 00:27:49,570 those kind of states of mind where he was going to take the car. 521 00:27:49,930 --> 00:27:52,810 We pretty much tackled Roddy while he was trying to drive off in the car. 522 00:27:52,910 --> 00:27:55,670 He was a tough guy to handle. 523 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,950 He was a heavy party. 524 00:27:58,230 --> 00:28:00,479 And I would scoop him up and I'd make sure 525 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,610 he got to where he was supposed to be going. 526 00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:05,390 Got him to his rooms and got him to the hotel. 527 00:28:05,391 --> 00:28:07,150 And got him to the airports. 528 00:28:07,910 --> 00:28:10,390 You go out there and wrestle for 45 minutes. 529 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:14,870 And you come back, take a shower and you're wide frigging awake. 530 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,570 And a lot of times I'd look at the coke and I don't want to do this. 531 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:21,390 But you end up doing it. 532 00:28:21,630 --> 00:28:24,410 It was I need this to wake up to wrestle. 533 00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:26,446 I need this to go to bed because I work in an hour. 534 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:26,990 This is all I have. 535 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,390 It was also about to numb the pain. 536 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,840 The physical pain. 537 00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:31,910 The pain of being alone. 538 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,990 Always having to be in transition. 539 00:28:34,991 --> 00:28:37,210 You know, you're never sitting still. 540 00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:40,990 It's a vicious cycle that would just go round and round. 541 00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:43,110 It's easier to go have a drink. 542 00:28:43,290 --> 00:28:45,250 It's easier to go take a pill or go smoke a joint. 543 00:28:46,210 --> 00:28:49,750 Back in those days, any injury could cost you your job. 544 00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:53,770 If you can't do it, they replace you a few minutes later with somebody else. 545 00:28:54,730 --> 00:28:56,250 You learn to be your own doctors. 546 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:58,860 That's kind of the sad thing is you're your own doctor. 547 00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:01,100 Roddy was pretty out of control. 548 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:04,830 Laura knows what kind of drugs and alcohol were being consumed. 549 00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:07,390 Uh, come here, Mom. 550 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:10,230 This is physical. 551 00:29:13,390 --> 00:29:18,910 Having Roddy travel so often and be gone so much, and having a growing family, 552 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,870 it was very difficult. 553 00:29:22,505 --> 00:29:29,670 When you live like we did, you know, 3,000 miles a week, you become desensitized. 554 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,120 Say Merry Christmas. 555 00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:32,950 Merry Christmas. 556 00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:33,570 Merry Christmas. 557 00:29:33,571 --> 00:29:39,730 One thing that Roddy did, he kept his family completely out of business. 558 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:43,250 Because he didn't want them to see what he went through. 559 00:29:44,010 --> 00:29:47,190 He wanted them to grow up and be beautiful and healthy and happy. 560 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:50,650 And I think he took too much of it on himself. 561 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:57,050 Sometimes when Rod would come home from the road, he wouldn't come straight home. 562 00:29:57,170 --> 00:30:00,033 He would check into a hotel room and just get 563 00:30:00,113 --> 00:30:02,590 rested because when he got home, he couldn't rest. 564 00:30:02,591 --> 00:30:04,490 I'd like to know where mine is. 565 00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:06,530 Uh, to Barnacle Bell? 566 00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:11,830 He's almost had to do a transition mentally when he came from the road to 567 00:30:11,831 --> 00:30:14,071 home because he didn't want to bring that character home. 568 00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:15,990 He had such a hot temper as Hot Rod. 569 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,830 And he had to because he had to be on guard a lot. 570 00:30:19,930 --> 00:30:21,390 It was very separate. 571 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:25,030 He didn't like to take us to a lot of events. 572 00:30:26,035 --> 00:30:29,285 We were very concerned about safety because of 573 00:30:29,286 --> 00:30:32,570 how much aggression was being put towards him. 574 00:30:32,571 --> 00:30:32,950 Rod. 575 00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:35,510 Snuka goes after Piper and Orton. 576 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:39,150 He'd been a villain in the Deep South and fighting 577 00:30:39,151 --> 00:30:41,370 fans and, you know, getting assault charges. 578 00:30:41,670 --> 00:30:45,510 I mean, I can think of a few situations with Roddy with fans trying to run us off 579 00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:48,310 the road and chasing us in cities like Detroit. 580 00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:52,430 People would throw thumbtacks in the ring, hit with beer bottles. 581 00:30:52,670 --> 00:30:55,590 In Asheville, North Carolina, I threw a rattlesnake in the ring one night. 582 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:59,070 Guy ran down to the ringside with a gunny sack, threw a rattlesnake. 583 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:04,526 It was a lot of crazy fans back then, and being 584 00:31:04,527 --> 00:31:06,630 a bad guy could be a very dangerous living. 585 00:31:06,850 --> 00:31:08,330 I'm gonna shove it down your throat! 586 00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:11,189 There's certainly times when I'd see him say or do something 587 00:31:11,289 --> 00:31:14,210 on TV where I'm like, oh, my gosh, we're in for it now. 588 00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:16,270 This is gonna get worse before it gets better. 589 00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:20,242 But I never asked him to curtail or tone it 590 00:31:20,243 --> 00:31:24,151 down because that would hinder his creativity. 591 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:28,250 The people wanted to kill me. 592 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:31,110 I remember there was a gentleman I could... 593 00:31:31,111 --> 00:31:36,591 I wasn't really paying much attention, but Roddy went taking it off down this hallway. 594 00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:39,830 And the next thing I see, I'm having some words. 595 00:31:40,390 --> 00:31:42,870 And the police got involved in it. 596 00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:47,810 He did have a big knife, you know, like a Bowie knife. 597 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,310 So, finally, their officer said, Mr. Piper, we've got him, he's going to jail. 598 00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:55,610 They said, well, I just wanted to have a couple seconds with him. 599 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:56,900 The officer said, why? 600 00:31:57,170 --> 00:31:59,050 And he said, because he stabbed me. 601 00:31:59,070 --> 00:32:03,221 And Roddy took his thumb off of his chest and the blood 602 00:32:03,222 --> 00:32:07,650 started squirting in the officer's face at every heartbeat. 603 00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:08,990 It was going. 604 00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:11,030 And I went, oh. 605 00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:15,150 Sergeant Slaughter took me to the hospital and held the wound. 606 00:32:15,610 --> 00:32:21,630 The doctor said, if that would have went one more half inch or less, you'd be dead. 607 00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:23,370 So, what was it like? 608 00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:25,170 It was a living hell. 609 00:32:26,170 --> 00:32:28,910 It wasn't just, you're a bad guy on TV and that's it. 610 00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:30,146 It followed you everywhere. 611 00:32:30,170 --> 00:32:31,950 Dad was stabbed three times in his life. 612 00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:35,730 Three times they actually stabbed him to the point where he had a leather jacket 613 00:32:35,731 --> 00:32:40,591 that was Kevlar-lined and it was stab-proof because he'd been stabbed so many times. 614 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:45,870 He was the next generation to take it to the next level. 615 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:50,190 What a tremendous match to have live. 616 00:32:50,620 --> 00:32:55,290 Millions of fans everywhere can see Greg Valentine and Roddy Piper go at each other. 617 00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:59,790 Me and Piper started out a long, long time a long, long journey. 618 00:33:01,090 --> 00:33:03,270 We'd probably wrestled each other for a year. 619 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:06,870 We just walloped each other. 620 00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:15,300 I took Piper's head and rammed it into the turnbuckle. 621 00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,280 Every time I'd go out there, I'd beat on his ear. 622 00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:23,020 Wham! 623 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,180 So I ended up naming it the Year of the Ear. 624 00:33:28,460 --> 00:33:29,280 Let him go to that ear. 625 00:33:29,281 --> 00:33:30,020 And I'd laugh. 626 00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:30,980 Ha, ha, ha! 627 00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:32,900 The Year of the Ear! 628 00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:38,640 And then finally, they want to blow it off. 629 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:39,780 End it. 630 00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:46,500 What happened was Bruno Sammartino and Larry Zbysko did $500,000 in Shea Stadium. 631 00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:50,680 So it became a war of the North against the South. 632 00:33:50,681 --> 00:33:54,020 So the South said, all right, we're going to put on the first pay-per-view ever. 633 00:33:54,730 --> 00:33:58,960 So they come to me and they said, I want you to make up the meanest, 634 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,220 nastiest, most brutal match you can possibly think of. 635 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:06,600 And Piper came up with this dog collar. 636 00:34:06,930 --> 00:34:08,120 40 pounds of change. 637 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:09,340 I want you to check it out. 638 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,700 You're going to see something you've never seen in your life before. 639 00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,160 It was a great idea. 640 00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:15,220 It was my birthday. 641 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:16,380 Oh, what is this? 642 00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:17,380 This is beautiful. 643 00:34:17,381 --> 00:34:18,940 They presented me with this big cake. 644 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:20,060 I love cake. 645 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,720 Wait a minute. 646 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,440 What is this? 647 00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:24,900 I look at it and I see some steel in there. 648 00:34:25,345 --> 00:34:27,780 And I reached down and pulled out a dog collar. 649 00:34:27,781 --> 00:34:30,080 What are you doing? 650 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:31,920 What are you trying to do to me? 651 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,820 He wants to have a dog collar match. 652 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,620 Piper was the best. 653 00:34:37,850 --> 00:34:38,850 The best performer. 654 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Good at the mic. 655 00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:42,140 Probably number one at the mic. 656 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,320 Some people said he sounded like Daffy Duck. 657 00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:46,260 I love Daffy Duck. 658 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,268 You're talking about the biggest thing that's 659 00:34:49,269 --> 00:34:51,380 ever going to happen in the history of wrestling. 660 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:55,840 Ladies and gentlemen, our next event of the evening is a very special match. 661 00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:57,760 This is a competition. 662 00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:58,120 A dog collar match. 663 00:34:58,580 --> 00:35:02,180 It was the very first pay-per-view ever for wrestling. 664 00:35:03,740 --> 00:35:07,100 Two men linked together like this in Mortal Kombat. 665 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,680 This is a strategy. 666 00:35:09,185 --> 00:35:11,100 This is what Piper talked to me about. 667 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,380 And then I see I'm the first one to get mad. 668 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:16,100 Exactly as a hip as we have talked about. 669 00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:18,500 He could use it to batter the guy. 670 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,400 Now he's going to get me in the teeth. 671 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,480 Right there. 672 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,960 I had to go to the dentist the next day. 673 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,200 And you can see the concern. 674 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,860 Look at the people watching this match. 675 00:35:26,861 --> 00:35:30,460 They really don't know what to expect when two men are going at it like this. 676 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:31,900 Now I'm going for the ear. 677 00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,840 Look at Valentine pounding on it now. 678 00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:38,180 It was a ridiculously hard match. 679 00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:40,580 It was one of the toughest match probably ever been in. 680 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Especially with Valentine. 681 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:42,840 Shane is a whip. 682 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:44,860 Valentine on his knees. 683 00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:46,440 Heart blow to the top of the head. 684 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:48,380 You know, I'm not just selling. 685 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,440 I'm hurt. 686 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120 But it's all for you wrestling fans. 687 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,340 Giving you our love in a strange way. 688 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:00,880 This is the end of it right there. 689 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:06,660 Valentine... He was the greatest of all time. 690 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,160 A really good hearted guy. 691 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,220 But a really tough son of a bitch. 692 00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:15,220 Valentine. 693 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:19,520 You say... You say your strategy wants to take away all my hair and... 694 00:36:19,521 --> 00:36:21,940 You say what you forgot is you've got one more year to go. 695 00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:26,780 When you look for, you know, the best man in the world... 696 00:36:26,781 --> 00:36:30,820 You know, attributes of a bad guy, you have to be fearless. 697 00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:33,530 You have to have a gift of gab. 698 00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:36,306 You can say anything that you want, even 699 00:36:36,307 --> 00:36:38,360 though you know it's got to be controversial. 700 00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:40,876 You have to be able to communicate with the audience. 701 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:44,380 And you have to have a certain attitude about you. 702 00:36:44,875 --> 00:36:46,860 And Roddy had all those attributes and more. 703 00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:53,100 Vince McMahon has these plans of expanding nationally. 704 00:36:53,860 --> 00:36:56,680 What's the best way to expand all over North America? 705 00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:59,801 You get the best wrestlers from the individual 706 00:36:59,802 --> 00:37:03,860 territories, and you bring them all to WWE. 707 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,400 And Vince McMahon wants it all. 708 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,620 I got a call from Roddy. 709 00:37:08,621 --> 00:37:10,040 He said, Mr. McMahon called. 710 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,520 I said, yeah, are you coming up? 711 00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:13,936 He goes, yeah, he wants me to come up. 712 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,120 I said, come on up, you know. 713 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,380 Roddy was coming to New York City. 714 00:37:19,425 --> 00:37:21,145 Well, let me tell you how to be Roddy Piper. 715 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,480 Heh. 716 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:23,600 Have a nice day. 717 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,960 Go yourself. 718 00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:26,040 Give me the microphone. 719 00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:26,820 Get out of my way. 720 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,560 Full-legged, big, fat. 721 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:32,310 You both stink. 722 00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:33,910 It's as simple as this. 723 00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:36,550 When RP talks, brother, people listen. 724 00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:41,870 In New York, New York is big guys. 725 00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:45,630 At least 250 pounders, six foot whatever. 726 00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:46,770 That's what I was. 727 00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:50,250 You know, Piper, later on, I guess he gained weight. 728 00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:52,730 But when he first came in, he was smaller. 729 00:37:53,050 --> 00:37:54,503 So if Roddy's not the greatest wrestler, he's 730 00:37:54,504 --> 00:37:55,750 the greatest physical specimen in the world. 731 00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:56,810 Don't let him do that. 732 00:37:57,330 --> 00:37:58,690 Do what Roddy does best. 733 00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:00,610 Let him be a talk show host. 734 00:38:00,950 --> 00:38:03,870 In a moment, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take you to Piper's pit. 735 00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,601 Involving, of course, the rather controversial 736 00:38:06,613 --> 00:38:08,690 and certainly opinionated Roddy Piper. 737 00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:12,446 They put up a backdrop, and it was basically 738 00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:14,710 a wrestling talk show to stir the pot. 739 00:38:14,910 --> 00:38:15,910 You're a lousy wrestler. 740 00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:16,970 It's as simple as that. 741 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:18,926 I might be a lousy wrestler, but I'm still in there. 742 00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:20,030 I got not afraid of nobody. 743 00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:24,929 It was the Tonight Show, where Roddy Piper, 744 00:38:24,930 --> 00:38:27,270 the host, could end up beating up the guest. 745 00:38:27,490 --> 00:38:31,243 It was just the most off-the-walls, unpredictable, 746 00:38:31,244 --> 00:38:33,570 amazing idea that ever happened in television. 747 00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:34,730 In my opinion. 748 00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:35,750 I'm biased, but whatever. 749 00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:38,390 Is he supposed to scare me? 750 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:39,790 You had to be ready. 751 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:41,550 He was witty, smart. 752 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:43,166 He was like the fastest gun in the West. 753 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:44,210 Hello, peasants. 754 00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:45,890 Don't call my father stupid. 755 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:46,230 No, no. 756 00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:46,730 Wait, wait, wait. 757 00:38:46,850 --> 00:38:48,150 How you doing, fatso? 758 00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:51,730 You could take some guys and make them look like heroes and superstars, 759 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:54,710 or he could kind of like, if he wants to, 760 00:38:54,711 --> 00:38:57,150 he could chop you down to size pretty quick. 761 00:38:57,370 --> 00:38:58,730 I could slam you myself. 762 00:38:59,010 --> 00:38:59,550 I don't care. 763 00:38:59,650 --> 00:39:01,610 You're saying John snuck up at 520. 764 00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:08,700 The most famous one, of course, is the interview with Jimmy Snuka. 765 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,160 There were a couple of coconuts. 766 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,480 And one of them, you know, had been what we call gimmicked. 767 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:17,700 But that's not the one Roddy chose. 768 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:19,480 Am I making fun of you? 769 00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:20,320 No, sir. 770 00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:21,420 No, sir. 771 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Nothing was scripted on Piper's pit. 772 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:34,820 It was all off at the top of Dad's head or something 773 00:39:34,821 --> 00:39:36,620 that he'd maybe written down in a note before. 774 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,440 And that's where the magic happened. 775 00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:42,600 Just when they think they got the answers, I change the questions. 776 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,172 He wasn't famous for his technique or his type of 777 00:39:46,173 --> 00:39:48,500 wrestling or how big his arms were or anything like that. 778 00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:51,002 He was just an incredible talker and a guy that 779 00:39:51,003 --> 00:39:53,260 was taking wrestling and telling a different story. 780 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,180 You do not throw rocks at a man who's got a machine gun. 781 00:39:58,500 --> 00:39:59,500 To 782 00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:07,770 you, the female entertainer of the year, Miss Cyndi Lauper! 783 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:14,890 Wrestling began to work with MTV, which was absolutely red hot. 784 00:40:15,110 --> 00:40:16,530 You look wonderful, Cyndi. 785 00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:20,170 Captain Lou Albano and Cyndi Lauper were friends. 786 00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:25,930 And Cyndi Lauper had put Lou Albano in her Girls Wanna Have Fun video. 787 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:29,650 I said, Vince, I got this guy named Dave Wolf that manages Cyndi Lauper. 788 00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:31,530 They just did a video with Albano. 789 00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:33,946 But now they want to get involved in the wrestling business. 790 00:40:33,970 --> 00:40:35,490 Vince was like, hmm, hmm. 791 00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:37,930 Dave thought it was going to be good for Cyndi's career. 792 00:40:38,215 --> 00:40:41,790 You know, I hear she's doing this crossover in this very unusual world. 793 00:40:42,030 --> 00:40:44,290 It's like, what the hell is this? 794 00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:48,010 Would you please welcome Cyndi Lauper! 795 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,980 So now, there's all this attention somewhere to WWE. 796 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:59,197 People who are fashionable, people who are in the rock 797 00:40:59,198 --> 00:41:02,600 and roll world, they're going to start watching WWE. 798 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,620 So they have this ceremony in Madison Square Garden. 799 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,807 Lou Albano was one of the primary forces 800 00:41:10,808 --> 00:41:14,440 responsible for the rock and wrestling in the gym. 801 00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:19,440 And what better way to honor a man but to give him a gold record. 802 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,900 I'm so grateful to receive this award. 803 00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,320 Now that's going to provoke some jealousy. 804 00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:27,860 And who is the most jealous performer of all? 805 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,320 It's Roddy Piper. 806 00:41:29,321 --> 00:41:30,321 Beautiful, Cyndi. 807 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080 Maybe they have some kind of presentation to make. 808 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:34,700 I want to present you... 809 00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:43,220 Roddy Piper. 810 00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:44,660 Shocking. 811 00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:47,880 Kicks the biggest pop star in America. 812 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,660 A female pop star in the head. 813 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,820 David Wong trying to cut 814 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,200 into the canvas. 815 00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:01,633 20 minutes before the match, I was asked, do you think 816 00:42:01,634 --> 00:42:05,780 you can kick Cyndi Lauper or not her by her manager? 817 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,320 I mean, I hope you never manage me. 818 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:16,680 But when they saw that, Saddam Hussein got nothing on me. 819 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:18,280 Look out, the Hulksters! 820 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Hitting the ring! 821 00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:21,960 Cyndi wasn't a wrestler. 822 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:24,220 So she had to have somebody to defend her honor. 823 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,220 He knew what he was doing. 824 00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:27,200 He was stirring up the crowd. 825 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,360 He knew it and he loved it. 826 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,440 All heels do. 827 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,540 What a disgraceful display. 828 00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:34,560 Cyndi, look at her. 829 00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:36,220 Tears running down her face. 830 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,880 Hulksters hot. 831 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,540 Everybody's hot. 832 00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:41,840 Boy, he wishes he could have got his hands on Roddy Piper. 833 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,220 Every dog has its day. 834 00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,580 You know what I'm talking about? 835 00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:47,340 And that one's going to get his. 836 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:47,740 Okay. 837 00:42:47,741 --> 00:42:50,080 She expects me to sit there and do nothing about her. 838 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,100 So I kick her 12 yards across the field. 839 00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:53,560 Just imagine this. 840 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,040 In about a four-month period, I had kicked Cyndi Lauper in the head. 841 00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:01,860 I don't know how many guys on Piper's fit I had, 842 00:43:01,861 --> 00:43:04,661 whatever I had done, all in this very short time. 843 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,880 It was getting really heated up. 844 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,760 I couldn't go anyplace. 845 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,500 I was fighting. 846 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:11,620 I had a family. 847 00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:13,260 I was fighting in and out of Denny's. 848 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,520 It was crazy. 849 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,886 Roddy understood that bringing him in, and the 850 00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:20,060 musicians, brings it to a whole other level. 851 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,960 So he was on board for that. 852 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,176 All right, let me just step out this way at the end. 853 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,523 But he found it very hard being an old-school 854 00:43:27,524 --> 00:43:31,200 person, and he tried best he could to cooperate. 855 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,600 It was never easy. 856 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,400 The last one is MTV Stinks. 857 00:43:36,565 --> 00:43:39,060 Once we got hooked up with MTV, it took us to mainstream. 858 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,400 MTV. 859 00:43:44,735 --> 00:43:45,820 Music to vomit by. 860 00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,100 Ladies and gentlemen, the war to settle the score. 861 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,840 The hottest ticket in town. 862 00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:57,320 The rock and wrestling connection helped us change the look of the business to 863 00:43:57,321 --> 00:43:59,600 where we got families and kids at ringside. 864 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,240 This is broadcast on MTV. 865 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,480 This is big time. 866 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,600 Everybody wants to be a part of it. 867 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:09,480 Well, there's something going on here. 868 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,680 I got to see what it is. 869 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,760 I got to check it out. 870 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520 Piper was the ultimate villain. 871 00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:18,160 So you want to have the ultimate villain all against the ultimate hero. 872 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,800 It was the biggest thing ever was Hogan and Piper going at it. 873 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:30,960 We have got it, Piper! 874 00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:36,550 When I ran into Piper, he's the one that made everything else possible. 875 00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:37,310 Oh! 876 00:44:37,870 --> 00:44:39,450 Dropped a big elbow on him! 877 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:43,956 I had to have an opponent, and nobody had the air, the arrogance, 878 00:44:43,957 --> 00:44:46,730 the attitude to go toe-to-toe with me and not back down. 879 00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:49,810 Without Piper, we could have never, never launched into the stratosphere. 880 00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:54,470 Piper has two confederates. 881 00:44:54,471 --> 00:44:58,430 Cowboy Bob Ordon, Jr. and Paul Mr. Wonderful Orndorff. 882 00:44:58,431 --> 00:44:59,990 Orndorff going up to the top. 883 00:45:00,610 --> 00:45:01,610 Looked out! 884 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:03,970 They interfere in the match. 885 00:45:04,350 --> 00:45:05,850 Cindy Lauper up on the apron. 886 00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:07,850 Orndorff going around the side rope now. 887 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:09,150 Who 888 00:45:15,650 --> 00:45:17,770 is going to save the day? 889 00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:19,070 Well, Mr. T. 890 00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:22,050 The biggest TV star in the United States. 891 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:26,150 Everybody in the country knows Mr. T. 892 00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:28,350 They're inviting him inside the ring. 893 00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:30,270 And so insert Mr. T. 894 00:45:30,271 --> 00:45:32,910 It was Vince's way to interject the entertainment. 895 00:45:33,150 --> 00:45:36,010 It was nothing but excitement and electricity, and it sure worked. 896 00:45:36,210 --> 00:45:38,830 I don't know anything about his background as a wrestler. 897 00:45:39,050 --> 00:45:40,050 I used to be a bodyguard. 898 00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:42,810 I used to be a bouncer at a disco and all that stuff. 899 00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:46,410 You know, now I knew how to wrestle, you know, and I wasn't no fluff. 900 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:49,530 So I stepped in the ring, and Piper snuck up behind me. 901 00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:53,206 I didn't think it would go down like this. 902 00:45:53,230 --> 00:45:55,366 If I knew it would go down like this, I would have did something else. 903 00:45:55,390 --> 00:45:56,510 So that's why I was so... 904 00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:58,370 I guess I could say pissed. 905 00:45:58,650 --> 00:45:59,930 Oh, hell is broken loosely. 906 00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:02,270 Roddy was the ultimate bad guy. 907 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:03,270 He sold it. 908 00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:03,750 He packed it. 909 00:46:03,790 --> 00:46:04,910 He was good at what he did. 910 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:05,790 Oh, we've got him. 911 00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:06,550 We've got him at home. 912 00:46:06,551 --> 00:46:08,150 Security holding everyone back. 913 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:08,990 What is going on? 914 00:46:08,991 --> 00:46:10,870 And it just went berserk, you know. 915 00:46:10,930 --> 00:46:11,930 It was... 916 00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:14,850 I laugh at it now because it's so old. 917 00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:16,010 I think about it, you know. 918 00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:16,930 It was maddening. 919 00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:19,330 The Keystone Cops, because everybody was fighting. 920 00:46:19,650 --> 00:46:20,770 What happened to our match? 921 00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:23,070 We don't have a match anymore. 922 00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:24,210 It's pandemonium. 923 00:46:24,330 --> 00:46:27,170 Well, back then, we were still really protecting the business. 924 00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:29,130 Should we tell the cops what we're doing or not? 925 00:46:29,131 --> 00:46:32,290 And the standard modem was, I don't tell anybody anything. 926 00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:34,010 Let's just get their natural reaction. 927 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:37,270 All of a sudden, some policeman came in the ring army. 928 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:40,170 There's a cop with a gun, and here the rest of them come. 929 00:46:40,890 --> 00:46:42,650 Piper was fighting the cops and everything. 930 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:43,870 It was just insanity. 931 00:46:44,850 --> 00:46:47,110 Hulk Hogan was the biggest hero. 932 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:51,770 Roddy Piper was the most detested villain. 933 00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:58,630 And now we are ready to start our road to the first WrestleMania. 934 00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:00,950 Okay, Ariel, let's go. 935 00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,150 Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. 936 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:03,550 Come on, Ariel. 937 00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:04,570 Thank you. 938 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:05,950 He's tired. 939 00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:07,790 This is the proud papa. 940 00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:09,770 Papa Piper. 941 00:47:10,305 --> 00:47:13,072 My dad often would say things like, I can't 942 00:47:13,073 --> 00:47:15,610 imagine how hard it is to be Roddy Piper's kid. 943 00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:17,190 Here comes Roddy. 944 00:47:17,890 --> 00:47:18,890 Ariel. 945 00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:22,277 He felt guilty, like he was some way a bad parent 946 00:47:22,278 --> 00:47:25,391 because his career was in some way affecting our lives. 947 00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:27,210 He was smiling. 948 00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:28,990 He was grinning. 949 00:47:28,991 --> 00:47:34,870 When we were starting out as a young family, he came to me and said, 950 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,210 I really do not want our children to grow up in 100 different places. 951 00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:40,450 I want them to have roots. 952 00:47:41,010 --> 00:47:42,030 You sure are pretty. 953 00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:45,610 Because he never felt like he had a home. 954 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:51,070 We chose to live in the country and have a lot of land around us. 955 00:47:51,790 --> 00:47:53,230 It was a safe zone. 956 00:47:53,830 --> 00:47:59,310 We lived on a 10-acre ranch in the middle of nowhere, end of a gravel road. 957 00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:03,830 And we really kept to just that ranch. 958 00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:05,170 Goodbye. 959 00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:07,226 With any kind of luck, she'll keep going. 960 00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:08,290 We won't have to feed her. 961 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:15,370 We wanted to be isolated because we had actual stalkers who would come and try and 962 00:48:15,371 --> 00:48:17,430 break into our house or be on our property. 963 00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:20,730 We did not go to the malls. 964 00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:21,950 We did not go to the movies. 965 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,802 I must have gotten 30 fights in one year just 966 00:48:25,803 --> 00:48:28,150 because people wanted to test their minds. 967 00:48:28,170 --> 00:48:29,250 They were moxie against me. 968 00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:35,920 This kind of thing is real life. 969 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:40,520 This is the kind of thing that makes a family. 970 00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:44,710 It's a great way of nature just teaching a 971 00:48:44,711 --> 00:48:48,121 family how to be a family and stay together. 972 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,420 I had a meeting with a small room full of our executives. 973 00:48:57,460 --> 00:48:59,220 And I said, there is a Super Bowl. 974 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,640 Here's the World Series. 975 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,540 There's this, there's that. 976 00:49:01,541 --> 00:49:02,621 It was really common sense. 977 00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:05,600 So why not have one of your own? 978 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,760 Call it WrestleMania. 979 00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:10,940 We would not have had WrestleMania I had it not been for Roddy because you have to 980 00:49:10,941 --> 00:49:13,580 have, again, a strong antagonist to get with the protagonist. 981 00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:14,860 Check this out, dude! 982 00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:15,900 Check that out! 983 00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:18,581 You have to have good stories and you have to have 984 00:49:18,582 --> 00:49:20,681 bold characters and larger-than-life individuals. 985 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,840 And Roddy was all of that. 986 00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:23,360 So I knew I had Roddy. 987 00:49:23,361 --> 00:49:24,960 I knew I had Hogan and Mr. T. 988 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,820 It was like that was going to work. 989 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,460 How does it feel to be portraying someone like myself? 990 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,520 Well, you ain't got a chance. 991 00:49:31,521 --> 00:49:32,521 You ain't nothing, man. 992 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,160 Oh, why, you ain't at all. 993 00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:35,916 Because I don't have a chair with my name on it? 994 00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:38,340 Roddy Piper really did not like Mr. T. 995 00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:39,660 Don't look at someone! 996 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,200 In those days, you know, you really paid some dues to be in the main event. 997 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,420 When Mr. T walks in, not even having a match anywhere, and it's like, 998 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,520 what right does he have to be in my ring in the main event? 999 00:49:55,820 --> 00:49:59,200 You want to get in there, brother, and you want to try some fighting, huh? 1000 00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:03,360 We've never brought in somebody from the outside and one of the biggest problems I 1001 00:50:03,361 --> 00:50:06,700 had was the barbaric mindset of Piper and Orndorff. 1002 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,980 You're looking at someone that was... He's an actor. 1003 00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:09,760 He's not a wrestler. 1004 00:50:09,860 --> 00:50:11,036 We're just going to break his legs. 1005 00:50:11,060 --> 00:50:12,120 I said, guys, please. 1006 00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:14,240 How can I say it without sounding cocky? 1007 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,460 They didn't understand that bringing me in would broaden their thing. 1008 00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:23,020 Because basically, you know, Vince, being the pioneer that he is, he said, 1009 00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:25,340 wow, we're going to broaden, bring it to the world. 1010 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,580 You come on down, T. 1011 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:29,040 We'll put an X where the T should be. 1012 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:31,788 Roddy hated the thought that, you know, he 1013 00:50:31,789 --> 00:50:34,160 was a part of a Mr. T coming into his arena. 1014 00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:35,920 It's an insult. 1015 00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:37,680 It's a slap in the face to the business. 1016 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,280 I had these two guys that had this old school mentality. 1017 00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,380 And plus, I got this guy who's got a real edgy attitude. 1018 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,136 You know, he's always talking in third person. 1019 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,880 Mr. T don't do that. 1020 00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:48,700 Mr. T don't put up with that. 1021 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,160 Mr. T ain't no powder puff. 1022 00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:51,580 He had to understand, you know. 1023 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,280 They didn't want to lose to Mr. T because he's not a real wrestler. 1024 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,900 There I am, the hardest heel they've ever had. 1025 00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:04,560 And now they want me to take a dive. 1026 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,880 I said, I ain't doing it. 1027 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,380 I was kind of like the babysitter, the moderator, the peacekeeper. 1028 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,660 And I was ready to have a nervous breakdown. 1029 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,500 The wrestling extravaganza of all time, WrestleMania. 1030 00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:20,980 The people knew the wrestling business was changing that night. 1031 00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:24,580 There was a fever pitch in Madison Square Garden. 1032 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,580 Piper's gonna get it. 1033 00:51:26,581 --> 00:51:27,020 Get what? 1034 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,320 Get his butt kicked. 1035 00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:34,603 What do you do, you know, to show the world what this product 1036 00:51:34,604 --> 00:51:37,560 is and what it will be, you know, in a really big way? 1037 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,560 Look at Rodji. 1038 00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:39,820 How does he fit in any of this? 1039 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,880 He doesn't. 1040 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,960 That's why I had him. 1041 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,660 This is what sports entertainment is all about. 1042 00:51:44,980 --> 00:51:46,160 It was everything we had. 1043 00:51:46,161 --> 00:51:46,760 We threw it in. 1044 00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:48,880 And let's roll the dice and do it in a big way. 1045 00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:51,360 Everything I had was on the line. 1046 00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:03,320 Here is what is arguably the turning point of the WWE in just so many ways. 1047 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,780 Rodji was very stubborn. 1048 00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:10,520 But you're about to make more money than you ever had in your entire lifetime. 1049 00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,920 Rodji was smart enough to know, yeah, I'm gonna do business. 1050 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,840 And I'm gonna make it look right. 1051 00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:29,500 You don't have to like it. 1052 00:52:29,501 --> 00:52:30,800 There's the exchange and slip. 1053 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,840 Piper now goes to the line quickly, takes him down to the cage. 1054 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:39,900 At a certain point, Rodji Piper instructs Mr. T, pick me up in a fireman's carry. 1055 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,300 Oh, a nice fireman's carry. 1056 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,630 Even though he didn't want Mr. T to take advantage 1057 00:52:46,631 --> 00:52:49,961 of him, Rodji Piper knows how to sell himself. 1058 00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:54,240 And he knows that's the photo that will go all over the world. 1059 00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:56,660 What's he gonna do with it? 1060 00:52:56,780 --> 00:53:01,690 You need to make Mr. T the hero. 1061 00:53:01,691 --> 00:53:03,090 This is what this is all about. 1062 00:53:05,770 --> 00:53:08,770 Mr. T should have beaten one of those guys right in the middle of the ring. 1063 00:53:09,610 --> 00:53:10,610 Preferably Piper. 1064 00:53:13,950 --> 00:53:18,550 But instead, they had to have Orton jump off the top rope with a cast to hit Warned 1065 00:53:18,551 --> 00:53:20,630 Off on the head, just so he could get a win. 1066 00:53:22,450 --> 00:53:24,570 Piper didn't want to do the job, even in WrestleMania. 1067 00:53:25,590 --> 00:53:26,490 You're the bad guy. 1068 00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:27,586 You're supposed to get beat. 1069 00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:28,610 That's what bad guys do. 1070 00:53:30,010 --> 00:53:31,670 He was so protective about it. 1071 00:53:31,690 --> 00:53:33,650 He was so protective about protecting Roddy Piper. 1072 00:53:33,970 --> 00:53:36,233 He didn't realize, if you just listen to our 1073 00:53:36,234 --> 00:53:39,391 opinion, I think you might find things a lot easier. 1074 00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:43,190 But Piper didn't like me, you know, at all. 1075 00:53:43,310 --> 00:53:45,470 I mean, there was no rapport at all with him and I. 1076 00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:47,010 It was strictly business. 1077 00:53:47,230 --> 00:53:48,510 We didn't talk unless we had to. 1078 00:53:49,315 --> 00:53:51,241 But later on in life, when Piper and I got to be 1079 00:53:51,301 --> 00:53:53,430 real good friends, I said, you screwed up, man. 1080 00:53:53,815 --> 00:53:55,378 You could have been one of the richest guys 1081 00:53:55,379 --> 00:53:57,050 I've ever met, but you wouldn't let me beat you. 1082 00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:58,630 So he goes, damn it. 1083 00:53:59,010 --> 00:53:59,710 I'm so pissed. 1084 00:53:59,830 --> 00:54:00,390 I wish we had talked. 1085 00:54:00,391 --> 00:54:01,310 I said, I tried to talk. 1086 00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:02,350 You wouldn't talk to me. 1087 00:54:03,710 --> 00:54:09,090 Hulk Hogan, Mr. T kind of taking the center stage of that whole event. 1088 00:54:09,310 --> 00:54:12,064 He always felt they couldn't have been the center 1089 00:54:12,124 --> 00:54:14,810 stage without him being there, being the bad guy. 1090 00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:17,330 And he knew his worth. 1091 00:54:17,550 --> 00:54:18,550 He knew his worth. 1092 00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:23,610 It's things like that that made Roddy the ultimate rebel. 1093 00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:31,270 For myself to stay on top, I needed to get out of the business completely. 1094 00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:34,110 Do something in another form. 1095 00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:38,285 I spent a lot of time with Roddy and had a lot 1096 00:54:38,286 --> 00:54:40,830 of big talks with Roddy about that time period. 1097 00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:43,588 And I remember Roddy basically telling me that 1098 00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:46,090 you got to have something else after wrestling. 1099 00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:47,930 What are you going to do after that? 1100 00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:48,970 It was like Hollywood. 1101 00:54:53,570 --> 00:54:56,670 Roddy had a quality that I could use in a movie. 1102 00:54:57,220 --> 00:54:58,750 Well, first of all, he didn't have a pretty body. 1103 00:54:58,751 --> 00:55:00,546 He had a pretty boy face like a Hollywood actor. 1104 00:55:00,570 --> 00:55:03,770 And this role required him to be a kind of a working man. 1105 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,490 You, you're okay. 1106 00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:08,190 This one, real ugly. 1107 00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:11,676 The character of John Nada is really based a lot 1108 00:55:11,677 --> 00:55:13,950 on Roddy and his past and what he'd been through. 1109 00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:15,470 And he added a lot of color to that. 1110 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:18,430 He gave me a notebook. 1111 00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:23,451 Now in this notebook were written all these phrases and ideas he had for interviews. 1112 00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:28,550 And right there, sitting there was, I've come here to chew bubble gum. 1113 00:55:28,551 --> 00:55:29,190 And kick ass. 1114 00:55:29,210 --> 00:55:30,250 I'm all out of bubble gum. 1115 00:55:31,810 --> 00:55:32,730 Well, that's a great line. 1116 00:55:32,810 --> 00:55:33,430 I can use that. 1117 00:55:33,590 --> 00:55:37,730 I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. 1118 00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:40,170 And I'm all out of bubble gum. 1119 00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:45,940 That's all his idea. 1120 00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:47,290 That was all from his brain. 1121 00:55:47,905 --> 00:55:53,350 I've never felt safer in my life than fighting with Roddy Piper. 1122 00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:57,550 I believe that fight scene. 1123 00:55:58,150 --> 00:56:00,490 Lasts literally about seven minutes on screen. 1124 00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:05,810 We really, you know, choreographed the out of it. 1125 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,330 But there was one time we were both so hyped up. 1126 00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:10,550 I was especially hyped up. 1127 00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:14,330 And that first punch, I hit him right in the face. 1128 00:56:14,490 --> 00:56:16,510 And I was like, I was out of. 1129 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:17,986 And he's like, come on, man. 1130 00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:18,370 Don't worry. 1131 00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:18,690 Come on. 1132 00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:18,870 Come on. 1133 00:56:18,871 --> 00:56:19,430 Step out of it. 1134 00:56:19,490 --> 00:56:19,670 Come on. 1135 00:56:19,671 --> 00:56:20,030 Don't worry. 1136 00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:20,310 Come on. 1137 00:56:20,370 --> 00:56:21,370 Let's start again. 1138 00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:22,690 And he was great. 1139 00:56:22,810 --> 00:56:25,270 Brother, life's a bitch. 1140 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:28,390 Don't feel sorry for me. 1141 00:56:28,850 --> 00:56:30,250 My name's John Nada. 1142 00:56:30,970 --> 00:56:34,510 The year and a half we were in Los Angeles, while he was filming those 1143 00:56:34,511 --> 00:56:37,290 movies, he brought the scripts home and we'd go over them. 1144 00:56:38,190 --> 00:56:39,190 Here we go. 1145 00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:41,830 He was always leaving to go to acting classes. 1146 00:56:42,850 --> 00:56:45,230 I mean, it was a whole other lifestyle. 1147 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:50,820 It was not like it was today where it's a lot 1148 00:56:50,821 --> 00:56:53,610 more flexible for wrestlers to also do acting. 1149 00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:55,890 Back then, it was, you didn't do that. 1150 00:56:56,070 --> 00:57:00,470 It was not an easy road to be really the first wrestler to go into film. 1151 00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:02,890 Vince was booking everything without Piper's name. 1152 00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:05,450 It was real hard for us to make that transition 1153 00:57:05,462 --> 00:57:07,450 because Piper was so hot at the time. 1154 00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:10,990 If Roddy wanted to go off and do film, what am I going to say? 1155 00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:12,546 No, don't want to take advantage of that opportunity. 1156 00:57:12,570 --> 00:57:14,610 As long as I know that he's coming back. 1157 00:57:15,110 --> 00:57:19,296 He loved acting and he loved the work of it, but he felt 1158 00:57:19,297 --> 00:57:21,870 alienated and didn't really have a lot in common with it. 1159 00:57:21,871 --> 00:57:24,226 He didn't want to do anything with a lot of the people in Hollywood. 1160 00:57:24,250 --> 00:57:27,630 The only people that they can understand me are other wrestlers. 1161 00:57:29,630 --> 00:57:35,950 I needed to come back to the WWE and walk back in the front door. 1162 00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:38,850 Roddy! 1163 00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:40,110 Roddy! 1164 00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:46,098 When I came back into wrestling from Hollywood, 1165 00:57:46,099 --> 00:57:50,960 bringing that credibility back was huge. 1166 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,652 Roddy's standpoint is, well, you had to bring me 1167 00:57:55,653 --> 00:57:57,641 back because that was the greatest star of all time. 1168 00:57:57,940 --> 00:57:59,660 That would be Roddy's point of view. 1169 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,360 But it doesn't matter what you want. 1170 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,020 Give the audience what they want. 1171 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,720 They want Roddy to come back? 1172 00:58:06,820 --> 00:58:07,820 Let's give them Roddy. 1173 00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:10,380 Standing ovation here for Roddy Roddy! 1174 00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:13,620 And after a respite, Roddy's ready to come back. 1175 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,460 Great, he's fresh, he's new all over again. 1176 00:58:15,580 --> 00:58:16,660 Different set of opponents. 1177 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,980 Mr. Downey. 1178 00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:20,040 Yes, Mr. Piper. 1179 00:58:20,850 --> 00:58:23,120 Don't blow no more smoke in my face. 1180 00:58:23,121 --> 00:58:24,720 Morton Downey Jr. was a talk show host. 1181 00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:25,780 Now he's a big mouth. 1182 00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:27,400 And Roddy had this impeccable timing. 1183 00:58:27,950 --> 00:58:33,400 So when Downey blows smoke in Roddy's face, it's like, one, two, three, four. 1184 00:58:33,810 --> 00:58:37,080 Instead of immediately doing it, watch, something's going to happen now. 1185 00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:38,220 And then it does. 1186 00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:43,830 He was so creative. 1187 00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:45,690 I think the fire is out, Jeff. 1188 00:58:45,950 --> 00:58:46,970 Very quick on his feet. 1189 00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:52,461 But at the same time, he was very opinionated 1190 00:58:52,462 --> 00:58:54,750 and wanted someone to listen to his opinion. 1191 00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:57,633 I listened to a lot of Roddy's ideas, some of which were 1192 00:58:57,634 --> 00:59:01,310 really dead on and some of which were, wow, that was out there. 1193 00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:04,030 They say you shouldn't blow your own horn, don't they say that? 1194 00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:04,630 Why not? 1195 00:59:04,750 --> 00:59:08,070 You are the most arrogant individual I think we've ever had. 1196 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:12,050 I think Roddy once described our relationship as a love-hate relationship. 1197 00:59:12,590 --> 00:59:13,590 We never fought. 1198 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:15,990 There were a couple of times when it was very close. 1199 00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:18,550 That was the way it was back in those days. 1200 00:59:18,610 --> 00:59:20,570 A lot of times you settled things in a fist fight. 1201 00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:21,630 You just did. 1202 00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:24,230 Vince and I were two peas in a pod. 1203 00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:25,770 I love the. 1204 00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:27,460 I do. 1205 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:28,500 He's an. 1206 00:59:28,770 --> 00:59:29,230 Sometimes. 1207 00:59:29,570 --> 00:59:30,570 So am I. 1208 00:59:32,910 --> 00:59:36,270 Roddy Piper was an attraction all to himself. 1209 00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:39,550 The fans could no longer boo him anymore. 1210 00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:43,550 You came to see Roddy Piper's intensity. 1211 00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:46,110 You came to hear his big mouth. 1212 00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:50,164 And you came to watch that frenzied, 1213 00:59:50,176 --> 00:59:54,731 kinetic spirit he brought between the ropes. 1214 00:59:58,580 --> 01:00:02,537 Whether he won or whether he was humiliated, 1215 01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:05,901 he was a draw and he remained a draw. 1216 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:17,270 Roddy Piper was maturing in that it wasn't all about Roddy. 1217 01:00:17,271 --> 01:00:22,030 And Roddy was proving that, hey, I can make people too. 1218 01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:25,830 I wouldn't lay my shoulders down for anybody. 1219 01:00:26,530 --> 01:00:30,070 But when I do, I make somebody. 1220 01:00:30,550 --> 01:00:32,290 And it means something. 1221 01:00:32,610 --> 01:00:33,910 This is gonna be something. 1222 01:00:34,790 --> 01:00:36,210 This was a special match. 1223 01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:39,170 This is the biggest moment in my life for sure up to this point. 1224 01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:41,230 Roddy really launched me. 1225 01:00:42,190 --> 01:00:44,070 My whole career just started climbing. 1226 01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:46,890 And it was Roddy was the one that gave me that first boost. 1227 01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:49,586 This is the first time these two men are meeting for 1228 01:00:49,587 --> 01:00:52,490 the World Wrestling Federation Intercontinental title. 1229 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,866 I think the last time, I think I did watch this maybe when Roddy died. 1230 01:00:55,890 --> 01:01:00,031 I always make a point of like, let me go back and find some good memories. 1231 01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:03,090 I always felt Roddy took a special interest in me. 1232 01:01:03,850 --> 01:01:05,450 Roddy was born in Saskatoon. 1233 01:01:05,590 --> 01:01:07,050 And my dad grew up in Saskatoon. 1234 01:01:07,485 --> 01:01:11,270 And there was a possibility that their name, like they were the same family. 1235 01:01:11,350 --> 01:01:13,590 Or maybe there was some blood between us. 1236 01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:17,430 When I first met him, we joked that we might be cousins. 1237 01:01:18,170 --> 01:01:19,250 Like it was like, hey, cuz. 1238 01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:20,710 And I didn't mind. 1239 01:01:20,790 --> 01:01:22,230 I never minded Roddy being a cousin. 1240 01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:26,490 I know this guy since he's been knee high to a grasshopper. 1241 01:01:26,491 --> 01:01:29,250 I remember when they were changing your body pants. 1242 01:01:29,735 --> 01:01:33,130 I think it was a message to the other wrestlers, some of the other superstars, 1243 01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:36,790 that weren't in the habit of reaching down to help the next guys. 1244 01:01:37,010 --> 01:01:38,866 Roddy was like, here, I'll show you how it's done. 1245 01:01:38,890 --> 01:01:40,830 Eye to eye, nose to nose. 1246 01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:44,890 But I was relieved to find out that this guy's really pitching for me. 1247 01:01:44,970 --> 01:01:46,910 He's actually opening the doors for me. 1248 01:01:48,110 --> 01:01:49,790 That match was Roddy's match. 1249 01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:50,650 Roddy, Roddy. 1250 01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:51,890 Oh, bulldog. 1251 01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:53,710 Like Roddy put that match together. 1252 01:01:53,930 --> 01:01:55,130 Busted wide open. 1253 01:01:56,490 --> 01:01:59,390 Roddy was so tuned into what would work with the fans. 1254 01:01:59,610 --> 01:02:00,610 He's got the bell. 1255 01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:02,550 Piper's gonna ring his bell. 1256 01:02:02,770 --> 01:02:04,950 They don't want to ring me with the bell. 1257 01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:07,830 It's like, no, no, don't do it. 1258 01:02:08,050 --> 01:02:09,370 He's having second thoughts. 1259 01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:11,850 His conscience gets the better of him. 1260 01:02:11,870 --> 01:02:13,910 He changes his mind here and decides not to. 1261 01:02:15,850 --> 01:02:16,850 Oh, look at that. 1262 01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:22,170 So by being a nice guy, I've tossed him. 1263 01:02:23,050 --> 01:02:24,050 Idiot. 1264 01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:25,470 It's great. 1265 01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:31,090 Over the years, Roddy told me many times, like, that it was his most favorite match. 1266 01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:33,550 And, you know, you never forget that. 1267 01:02:35,845 --> 01:02:37,866 There's an old saying that's, uh, you need a 1268 01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:40,231 license to hunt, you need a license to fish. 1269 01:02:40,430 --> 01:02:41,430 Any jerk can have a kid. 1270 01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:43,330 It takes a man to be a dad. 1271 01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:46,370 Oh, man. 1272 01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:48,962 When I look at my childhood, my dad was gone 1273 01:02:48,963 --> 01:02:51,771 almost every day for at least up until I was five. 1274 01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:57,290 The first at least 12 years of my life, he was gone for long periods of time. 1275 01:02:57,470 --> 01:02:59,590 I think at one point I didn't see him for over a year. 1276 01:03:00,910 --> 01:03:03,349 We both made the same choice that the wrestling 1277 01:03:03,350 --> 01:03:06,430 business took precedent over anything, even family. 1278 01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:09,930 So that's a tough choice to look in the mirror and live with. 1279 01:03:10,490 --> 01:03:14,870 You were gone at least 300 days a year, every year. 1280 01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:19,010 Roddy was, like me, was a real strong family man. 1281 01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:23,430 You know, you commiserate together, and you're missing your kids' birthday 1282 01:03:23,431 --> 01:03:25,871 parties, and you miss Halloween, and you miss 1283 01:03:25,872 --> 01:03:28,050 all these little special days all the time. 1284 01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:28,670 You see pictures. 1285 01:03:28,671 --> 01:03:31,830 The heartbreak at home of being gone all the time. 1286 01:03:31,930 --> 01:03:34,190 You know, it's just this very tough part of your life. 1287 01:03:35,650 --> 01:03:41,350 When Roddy would come home and have to be dad, he was always fun. 1288 01:03:42,910 --> 01:03:45,970 He would spoil them rotten. 1289 01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:48,930 He would pull them out of school. 1290 01:03:49,455 --> 01:03:51,210 It didn't matter what was going on. 1291 01:03:54,610 --> 01:03:58,330 Christmas, so he was always home and always lots of presents. 1292 01:04:00,310 --> 01:04:01,850 A lot of cuddle time. 1293 01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:06,430 He was trying very hard to create what he didn't have. 1294 01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:09,610 He would come home and he would be so 1295 01:04:09,622 --> 01:04:12,170 exhausted, you know, while trying to see us. 1296 01:04:12,430 --> 01:04:16,190 And then he would want to have fun or just do something as a family. 1297 01:04:16,590 --> 01:04:18,955 And then immediately, like as soon as we were having 1298 01:04:18,956 --> 01:04:21,510 fun, you could see him getting antsy about work. 1299 01:04:21,930 --> 01:04:25,250 You could see it start to tick like a clock going faster and faster. 1300 01:04:25,710 --> 01:04:27,170 And I think he missed it. 1301 01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:28,650 You know, he missed us when he was gone. 1302 01:04:28,670 --> 01:04:30,970 And he missed the action when he was home. 1303 01:04:31,350 --> 01:04:35,861 He was like a runaway as a kid growing up and spent a lot of time 1304 01:04:35,862 --> 01:04:39,630 on the road in his own mindset, like Roddy against the world. 1305 01:04:40,910 --> 01:04:42,490 He was not like any other wrestler. 1306 01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:44,530 He was in his own world. 1307 01:04:45,170 --> 01:04:48,070 I think that world also meant going away. 1308 01:04:48,810 --> 01:04:51,970 I'm going to get 30 minutes with my dad this month. 1309 01:04:52,595 --> 01:04:56,410 I just want to hug him, cuddle with him, kiss him and do whatever I can in that 1310 01:04:56,411 --> 01:04:59,010 time because I literally get him on his transfer layover flight. 1311 01:04:59,390 --> 01:05:01,450 He wasn't an NFL player that had a season. 1312 01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:02,670 He went 365. 1313 01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:04,390 There you go. 1314 01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:06,610 They never liked seeing him go. 1315 01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:08,410 Everyone, including myself. 1316 01:05:08,830 --> 01:05:11,790 If you could wish for anything in the whole world, what would you wish for? 1317 01:05:11,830 --> 01:05:15,290 For my family to be together all the time. 1318 01:05:15,590 --> 01:05:17,190 That dad didn't go away. 1319 01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:20,730 But it's got to work, so it just doesn't happen. 1320 01:05:21,205 --> 01:05:23,990 You know, it's hard not to get sad when he was going out the door. 1321 01:05:24,660 --> 01:05:25,970 But, um, sorry. 1322 01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:40,700 It's hard to live with a man that has constant injuries. 1323 01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:46,320 Of course, they varied from bruises to broken bones. 1324 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,840 He never let on how bad he was hurting. 1325 01:05:51,380 --> 01:05:54,640 I would beg him to sit still and recover from an injury. 1326 01:05:54,740 --> 01:05:55,860 Yes, yes, I would. 1327 01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:58,940 But you cannot make Rod do anything he doesn't want to. 1328 01:06:00,860 --> 01:06:03,700 Dad was injured 90% of the time. 1329 01:06:04,805 --> 01:06:07,494 So when I say I had to lace his boots up since I was 1330 01:06:07,495 --> 01:06:09,941 8 years old, it's because it physically hurt him. 1331 01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:14,460 He is sorely outnumbered here. 1332 01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:19,700 I remember the first time that I really felt like, wow, he is mortal. 1333 01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:21,440 Hogan gets a whipping on him. 1334 01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:25,580 And truly hating Hogan. 1335 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,760 They can't hurt him! 1336 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:33,420 The hardest thing as a kid for me was knowing your dad's injuries. 1337 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,760 And he had just had a hip replacement. 1338 01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:36,160 Show him that scar. 1339 01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:37,300 There you can see it. 1340 01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:39,100 He had a scar from a hip replacement. 1341 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,880 Hulk Hogan took a chair and hit my dad. 1342 01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:42,220 Oh, no! 1343 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:43,720 No! 1344 01:06:43,940 --> 01:06:45,600 He's not supposed to be wrestling. 1345 01:06:45,740 --> 01:06:47,460 We were told he might not even walk again. 1346 01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:55,000 I just remember breaking down in tears because for the first time it became real. 1347 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,320 So at that point, my parents stopped letting us watch all together. 1348 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,600 When we had the inside and the outside, it was really rough. 1349 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,360 I mean, he was just in constant pain and yet could work through it. 1350 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:17,026 As he got older, he had a shoulder injury and his arm would 1351 01:07:17,027 --> 01:07:20,020 just hang like a couple inches lower than the other arm. 1352 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,836 And he was probably like that for a year or two. 1353 01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:25,440 And it turned out his, like, they pulled out something like five or six shattered 1354 01:07:25,441 --> 01:07:28,200 bones that were just like floating around his shoulder. 1355 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:34,740 It was kind of fascinating for me to see him behind the scenes having a hard time 1356 01:07:34,741 --> 01:07:36,740 getting out of bed, having a hard time walking. 1357 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,420 And two hours later, he's in the ring and you'd never know anything was wrong 1358 01:07:41,421 --> 01:07:43,980 because he loved it and he loved putting on a show. 1359 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,380 It really was just two completely different lives. 1360 01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:57,310 During the time of 2003 when Dad talked to HBO, it was a dark time for Dad, 1361 01:07:57,810 --> 01:07:59,370 in front of camera and at home. 1362 01:07:59,590 --> 01:08:00,590 Everybody's dead. 1363 01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:03,230 They're all dying early. 1364 01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:05,170 And... 1365 01:08:05,475 --> 01:08:06,650 nobody cares about it. 1366 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,670 What the hell is he doing? 1367 01:08:10,420 --> 01:08:12,010 And what the hell is he saying? 1368 01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:13,140 It's like, really? 1369 01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:16,850 They take them and they screw them up so much. 1370 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,050 And they being the rash of promoters that I've gone through in the 33 years. 1371 01:08:23,390 --> 01:08:24,872 A lot of times you lash out, you know, and 1372 01:08:24,873 --> 01:08:27,291 that's what Roddy was doing was lashing out. 1373 01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:32,650 A lot of his friends had started passing away. 1374 01:08:33,205 --> 01:08:34,710 And it makes you worry. 1375 01:08:34,711 --> 01:08:35,791 And it makes you concerned. 1376 01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:39,390 And so that's when he started being vocal about it. 1377 01:08:39,670 --> 01:08:43,290 I know he blamed the company for just about everything in the interviews. 1378 01:08:43,935 --> 01:08:46,750 But at that time he had lost so much. 1379 01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:47,730 He wasn't wrestling. 1380 01:08:47,870 --> 01:08:48,870 He was hurt. 1381 01:08:49,225 --> 01:08:50,825 Just trying to stand up for his buddies. 1382 01:08:51,690 --> 01:08:54,719 But later on, towards the end, Dad had talked to me 1383 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,050 and, you know, he said, it's the business we get into. 1384 01:08:57,190 --> 01:08:58,290 We know what it is. 1385 01:08:58,390 --> 01:09:01,530 You know, we don't get in there thinking we're going to live to 78 years old. 1386 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,010 What would you have me do at 49? 1387 01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:08,350 When, like, my pension plan, I can't take out until I'm 65. 1388 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,150 I'm not going to make 65. 1389 01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:11,930 It's just face facts, guys. 1390 01:09:12,310 --> 01:09:15,430 When someone says, you know, really rotten things about your company, you know, 1391 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,926 you're not going to welcome them with open arms. 1392 01:09:17,950 --> 01:09:21,210 You know, you're going to say, time for us to say goodbye. 1393 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,530 He wasn't expecting the consequences. 1394 01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:27,290 He lost a contract. 1395 01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:30,350 It was pretty bad for our family as far as, like, our well-being goes. 1396 01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,490 I think he felt very lost. 1397 01:09:32,990 --> 01:09:33,990 Very depressed. 1398 01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:36,310 A little bit reckless with his behavior. 1399 01:09:36,830 --> 01:09:39,230 Obviously, with the HBO interview, that's a good example. 1400 01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:42,090 And, you know, I've talked about him having demons. 1401 01:09:42,210 --> 01:09:44,706 And I think that this was sort of like the height of 1402 01:09:44,707 --> 01:09:47,191 his demons coming out was this period of his life. 1403 01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:53,780 Yeah, nothing's permanent in this business. 1404 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,920 And as Piper's been fired, I've been fired a couple times. 1405 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:57,880 You know, but things change. 1406 01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:02,340 And, you know, the president or O.J. 1407 01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:05,036 or somebody will do something that takes precedent over something that we did. 1408 01:10:05,060 --> 01:10:07,780 So I think Vince understands that he's doing it. 1409 01:10:07,781 --> 01:10:10,180 He's dealing with a bunch of high, intense personalities. 1410 01:10:10,875 --> 01:10:12,315 But Vince has been pretty forgiving. 1411 01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:13,180 Whoo! 1412 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,160 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... 1413 01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:23,180 I give you the most gifted entertainer in the history of professional wrestling. 1414 01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:26,220 My man, the Hot Rod. 1415 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:33,010 I think it was huge for him, you know, because his whole life was wrestling. 1416 01:10:33,310 --> 01:10:37,790 Even though wrestling is an exhibition, for us, the Hall of Fame is real. 1417 01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:46,000 I want to tell you this. 1418 01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:49,500 I love you... 1419 01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:54,300 I love you so much, man. 1420 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,040 I love you so much, but I guarantee you this. 1421 01:10:58,460 --> 01:11:02,880 My name is Rowdy Roddy Piper, and you ain't seen nothing yet. 1422 01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:23,020 You can find sympathy in the dictionary between and suicide. 1423 01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:29,360 Roddy was definitely depressed off and on during his life. 1424 01:11:30,590 --> 01:11:34,960 You know, you're either up 100% or you're kind of down. 1425 01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:37,780 And it was always hard for him to find the middle spot. 1426 01:11:40,270 --> 01:11:42,487 One of the demons was that time in his life as 1427 01:11:42,488 --> 01:11:45,201 a teenager when he was surviving on the street. 1428 01:11:45,810 --> 01:11:47,020 He never let that go. 1429 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,780 I was so young. 1430 01:11:49,740 --> 01:11:51,180 I had to fight for everything I had. 1431 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,480 I had to fight for everything I had. 1432 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,200 Oh, man. 1433 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,360 He told me some stuff about his childhood and living on the street. 1434 01:12:00,790 --> 01:12:03,245 He was in a bad spot and used and abused and 1435 01:12:03,246 --> 01:12:06,821 just a lot of bad stuff that I had no idea. 1436 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,840 Nobody feels sorry for me, man. 1437 01:12:11,215 --> 01:12:13,572 You know, he had phoned me from the road and he'd been 1438 01:12:13,573 --> 01:12:15,920 in his hotel room for three days with the lights off. 1439 01:12:16,540 --> 01:12:17,240 He was depressed. 1440 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,120 There was things on his mind that went back to his childhood. 1441 01:12:21,740 --> 01:12:25,060 His mind went to spots that weren't good for him. 1442 01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:31,360 He still had that crumbling part inside his soul that he could never mend. 1443 01:12:32,490 --> 01:12:37,400 He was so depressed at times, I'm sure that he did think of suicide. 1444 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,120 He wouldn't follow through with it because, as he would be the first to say, 1445 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,160 he's not a coward and that's a coward's way out. 1446 01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:50,100 But he was so sad at times inside himself that I know that he did think of suicide. 1447 01:12:50,101 --> 01:12:51,116 And I think that occasionally. 1448 01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:52,260 And that's heartbreaking. 1449 01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:16,921 As he started to wind down wrestling, he really started 1450 01:13:16,922 --> 01:13:21,040 to have fun going into acting as well as comedy. 1451 01:13:21,415 --> 01:13:22,420 And I looked over. 1452 01:13:22,421 --> 01:13:25,980 And my hotel door was just f****** gone. 1453 01:13:28,540 --> 01:13:32,120 In a weird way, I think it was a therapeutic thing that he realized that 1454 01:13:32,121 --> 01:13:35,201 just because he couldn't wrestle anymore didn't mean that he couldn't perform. 1455 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:37,720 Over here is Hogan. 1456 01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:39,660 He's naked. 1457 01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:44,620 He's putting suntan lotion on. 1458 01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:46,740 He enjoyed telling these stories. 1459 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,580 He enjoyed connecting with his fans. 1460 01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:51,140 And that was something that he was very passionate about. 1461 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:52,400 May all your dreams come true. 1462 01:13:52,401 --> 01:13:54,080 God bless you. 1463 01:13:54,820 --> 01:13:55,980 How cool is that? 1464 01:13:56,220 --> 01:13:56,780 Roddy! 1465 01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:57,900 Roddy Piper! 1466 01:13:58,220 --> 01:14:05,500 January of 2009, his manager reached out and said, would you have any interest in 1467 01:14:05,501 --> 01:14:08,760 helping Roddy cultivate a stand-up comedy act? 1468 01:14:08,980 --> 01:14:11,380 And I was like, absolutely. 1469 01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:14,334 But here's the thing, when you watch pro wrestling 1470 01:14:14,335 --> 01:14:16,660 with brothers, that wasn't even a TV show. 1471 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,160 That was an instruction guide on how to hurt each other. 1472 01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:20,540 That's all it was. 1473 01:14:20,541 --> 01:14:25,215 I grew up in the middle of three boys in suburban Philadelphia 1474 01:14:25,216 --> 01:14:29,400 in really the golden age of modern professional wrestling. 1475 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:34,180 I remember being a kid when he showed up. 1476 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,080 He was the worst. 1477 01:14:36,285 --> 01:14:39,092 I remember being a chubby 11-year-old kid buying 1478 01:14:39,093 --> 01:14:42,181 a T-shirt that said, I hate Rowdy Roddy Piper. 1479 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,540 Like he could get you to yell at a television set. 1480 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,520 And meeting Roddy was like meeting somebody out of a comic book. 1481 01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:58,220 That began a really cool relationship where I would just listen to stories and 1482 01:14:58,221 --> 01:15:01,920 try to help him craft that into some sort of cohesive act. 1483 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:12,935 As a comedian, I have an unbelievable amount of respect 1484 01:15:12,936 --> 01:15:16,520 for somebody that can connect with audiences online. 1485 01:15:16,521 --> 01:15:17,641 He was on such a deep level. 1486 01:15:18,265 --> 01:15:20,000 That was his mutant ability. 1487 01:15:20,420 --> 01:15:21,860 Like that power walking guy. 1488 01:15:23,740 --> 01:15:27,240 I got to go through Roddy's life with him on a comedic journey. 1489 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,480 But hearing his life experience was just so amazing. 1490 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,040 I don't have a fancy ending for it just to humiliate anyone. 1491 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,900 Roddy's darkness is one of the things that drew him to stand-up comedy. 1492 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,360 You can turn pain into joy. 1493 01:15:47,580 --> 01:15:50,800 And making people laugh meant a lot to him. 1494 01:15:52,650 --> 01:15:59,900 He is the WWE Hall of Famer and one of the all-time greats, Rowdy Roddy Piper. 1495 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,460 When he would get off the road, he would be tired or hurt and he'd recover. 1496 01:16:04,090 --> 01:16:06,938 But there was never a time that he did an interview 1497 01:16:06,939 --> 01:16:09,521 where he got on camera and he couldn't turn it on. 1498 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:10,660 What was the question? 1499 01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:12,660 This time it was different. 1500 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,520 He had this interviewer. 1501 01:16:14,540 --> 01:16:15,060 Yeah, yeah. 1502 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,300 And he gets on and he's like, can't put his thoughts together. 1503 01:16:18,610 --> 01:16:20,980 But what I don't think is on our honor. 1504 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,700 Let me try to do this. 1505 01:16:25,215 --> 01:16:27,146 It's one of those things that as a family member, when 1506 01:16:27,147 --> 01:16:29,920 you know someone close and you're like, they're being odd. 1507 01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:37,320 I went into a Mexican restaurant with my youngest daughter who's in... 1508 01:16:37,940 --> 01:16:42,860 It was heartbreaking because that was not the man I knew. 1509 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,520 There was obvious a problem he was having. 1510 01:16:45,620 --> 01:16:47,000 I just think that it's a little... 1511 01:16:47,001 --> 01:16:50,440 It was like the moment the world knew something was wrong. 1512 01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:56,480 And a few days later, Roddy was home. 1513 01:16:57,220 --> 01:16:58,580 He was very tired that night. 1514 01:16:59,065 --> 01:17:00,945 We were going to go see his doctor the next day. 1515 01:17:00,980 --> 01:17:02,120 We decided to do that. 1516 01:17:03,050 --> 01:17:06,040 And we went to bed and he passed away in his sleep. 1517 01:17:08,355 --> 01:17:09,355 His heart failed. 1518 01:17:09,620 --> 01:17:12,840 As far as the specifics as to what was causing it, it probably wasn't the heart. 1519 01:17:12,841 --> 01:17:15,340 It was a combination of his entire life. 1520 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,560 I am so grateful that he was home. 1521 01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:27,780 Because even at that age, so many days of the year, he was gone away from home. 1522 01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:29,020 And he could have been alone. 1523 01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:30,540 Sorry. 1524 01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:35,480 And I'm just very grateful that he was home with me when he passed. 1525 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,360 You know, the news came that he passed away, you know. 1526 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,420 And I felt like I got shot in the chest. 1527 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:46,560 With a cannon, you know. 1528 01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:50,120 And it kind of like knocked me off track for a couple of days. 1529 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,360 And then all of a sudden, I get this voice message. 1530 01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:55,910 It was really weird because either my phone was messed up. 1531 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,751 Sometimes you'll get a text message at that 1532 01:17:57,752 --> 01:18:00,701 night when it was sent to you in the morning. 1533 01:18:00,860 --> 01:18:02,460 I saw the light. 1534 01:18:02,980 --> 01:18:05,020 I'm walking with Jesus today, my brother. 1535 01:18:05,650 --> 01:18:06,650 Walking with Jesus. 1536 01:18:07,245 --> 01:18:08,500 Loving you and praying for you. 1537 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:10,820 It really spooked me out. 1538 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,720 Like, hmm, alien thing, you know. 1539 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,200 Like, close encounters. 1540 01:18:14,201 --> 01:18:18,280 It's crazy to get a voice message from somebody after they passed away. 1541 01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:21,520 And especially for him to say, I'm loving you and walking with Jesus, my brother. 1542 01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:23,636 Just loving you and walking with Jesus. 1543 01:18:23,660 --> 01:18:24,660 I was like, wow. 1544 01:18:26,020 --> 01:18:27,020 Totally screwed me up. 1545 01:18:45,540 --> 01:18:47,120 It's surreal being here without him. 1546 01:18:47,220 --> 01:18:47,600 It is. 1547 01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:48,280 It is. 1548 01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:49,160 It's different experience. 1549 01:18:49,161 --> 01:18:50,161 That's for sure. 1550 01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:51,500 Bye. 1551 01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:52,540 Oh, welcome back. 1552 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,240 Good to see you again. 1553 01:18:59,241 --> 01:18:59,540 How are you? 1554 01:18:59,580 --> 01:19:00,580 So good to see you. 1555 01:19:00,620 --> 01:19:01,320 Oh my God. 1556 01:19:01,580 --> 01:19:03,976 When I first started doing MMA, I was trying to think of a fight name. 1557 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,499 And of course, the first thing that everybody thought 1558 01:19:06,539 --> 01:19:07,660 of was like, what do you think is a fight name? 1559 01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:08,100 Well, Rowdy. 1560 01:19:08,180 --> 01:19:09,160 Rowdy Warner Rousey. 1561 01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:11,640 Like, I know, but like Rowdy Roddy Piper already has that. 1562 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,840 I didn't want to steal it. 1563 01:19:13,580 --> 01:19:18,700 Until I happened to see the original Rowdy one and got his blessing. 1564 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,820 And yeah, he was very sweet about it. 1565 01:19:20,821 --> 01:19:22,880 He was like, yeah, sure kid, no problem. 1566 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,096 Better do the name Proud or something like that. 1567 01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,120 I don't know. 1568 01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:27,820 And then Kitty, my mom. 1569 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:28,160 Hi. 1570 01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:33,540 Thank you so much for everything. 1571 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,680 Thank you for trusting me. 1572 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,080 Absolutely. 1573 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:37,320 Absolutely. 1574 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:41,740 I mean, Rowdy would dig that you have such continued success, you know? 1575 01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:44,559 And he would... couldn't be prouder, I'm 1576 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,300 sure, of your representation of the Rowdyness. 1577 01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:48,840 No one can do it better. 1578 01:19:49,140 --> 01:19:50,320 Thank you so much. 1579 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:50,800 Thank you. 1580 01:19:50,820 --> 01:19:51,820 Thank you so, so much. 1581 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,500 He was a loner and a wolf. 1582 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,060 And he was often misunderstood. 1583 01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:01,660 I was so wild. 1584 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,440 Scary wild. 1585 01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:08,640 But he was always 100% in your face. 1586 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,500 You do not throw rocks at a man who's got a machine gun. 1587 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:13,920 This is what you get. 1588 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,040 I am who I am. 1589 01:20:15,220 --> 01:20:17,760 What you got here is all man. 1590 01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:19,680 He didn't change for anybody. 1591 01:20:19,681 --> 01:20:23,060 We are the most popular wrestlers in the entire world. 1592 01:20:23,180 --> 01:20:25,880 I haven't found anyone that has what Rowdy had. 1593 01:20:27,340 --> 01:20:29,920 Love life lived it to its max. 1594 01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:34,160 He came in spitting fire and cropping thunder. 1595 01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:40,480 I am the legend killer. 1596 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,718 He started with so little and ended with so much 1597 01:20:43,719 --> 01:20:46,601 and had every hardship thrown at him along the way. 1598 01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:48,060 That's my dad's legacy. 1599 01:20:48,061 --> 01:20:49,781 I hope it is one that gives people strength. 1600 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,260 I still hear new stories about him all the time. 1601 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,430 And I realize how lucky I am to have a father 1602 01:20:56,431 --> 01:21:00,001 that has impacted so many people in the world. 1603 01:21:02,620 --> 01:21:03,920 Best part of my job? 1604 01:21:05,380 --> 01:21:09,760 When you come with your daddy and your mommy and you're all excited. 1605 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:16,320 He can put a smile on a little boy's face. 1606 01:21:17,380 --> 01:21:18,040 That's incredible. 1607 01:21:18,041 --> 01:21:21,420 That's the greatest reward a guy could ever have in his life. 1608 01:21:23,140 --> 01:21:24,140 Thank you. 1609 01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:25,960 I love you too. 131564

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