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Who is Steve Austin the man and who
is Stone Cold Steve Austin the performer?
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The difference between Stone Cold Steve
Austin the man and Stone Cold Steve Austin
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the performer is basically Stone
Cold Steve Austin is exactly that.
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I don't even know what
the difference is really.
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Steve Austin is one of the
biggest superstars in the history
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of the wrestling business
because of his passion for it.
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He had this meteoric rise that burnt hot
and fast and changed an entire industry.
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Talk about your Psalms,
talk about John 316.
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Austin 316 says I
just whipped your ass.
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The separation between
Stone Cold and Steve Austin
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is only a matter of the
surrounding that I'm in.
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The character was a real person.
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The look in his
eyes told a real story.
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And you know why?
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Because it was a real story.
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He went from being a guy from Texas
to a pro wrestler to a pop culture icon.
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He was the defining
character of a generation.
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The disrupter of the status quo.
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The pivotal player in the complete
reimagination of the industry.
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I've been retired for so
long, I don't miss it anymore.
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I don't crave it.
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You can never replace it.
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I'm trying to say that you can.
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But I wouldn't say there's anything about
the life I used to live on the road that
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makes me yearn to go back
in time and relive those days.
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But I do what I want, when I
want, right here in this damn ring.
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And can't nobody stop me.
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The whole world knows my
name is Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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If I'm going straight to hell,
you're damn sure coming with me.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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His reign on top
was second to none.
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Steve Austin changed the
way the game was played.
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There will never ever
be anyone like him.
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He's the man responsible for making
WWE more than we thought it could ever be.
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People gravitated a lot to the
energy that I brought to the business.
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Steve didn't have a long career being
on top, but he had that one little peak.
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It was like, well, no one
will come close to that.
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Stone Cold is the showbiz guy.
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Steve Austin is the regular guy.
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They just happen to be
rolled up in the same package.
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I was born in Austin, Texas,
but we didn't stay there long.
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I grew up in a little
town called Edna.
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I'm proud to be from Texas.
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You know, born, bred, raised.
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You know, it's tough.
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It's cowboy country
and it's rugged.
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I think the reputation of
Texas kind of precedes
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you and the fact that
you're from that state.
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You know, it's not a one stop light
town, but we just have a few stop lights.
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And it's a town where
everybody knows everybody.
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We had a huge house,
our yellow house.
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It was on half of an acre.
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It was great growing
up in a big family.
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Scott's the oldest, then Steve,
then Kevin, Jeff, and then me.
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As a kid, Steve was very shy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he was shy.
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I was just shy enough that when we called
down to Dairy Queen to order, you know,
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three tacos or whatever,
you know, hell, I put my sister
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on the phone, Jenny, could
you order my food for me?
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So he's seven years old with me,
and he would literally call me into the
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kitchen, and he'd hand me the phone to
Dairy Queen and have me read off his order.
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I broke out of shyness when
I found football in junior high.
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I used athletics to
help me find confidence.
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I noticed him when
he was in junior high.
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I was a high school coach.
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He was a physical
specimen, I guess you'd say.
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When he started seventh grade football,
as long as I can remember, that's all he
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wanted to do was work out,
eat right, and just build his body.
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We're eating Little Debbie's
and Captain Crunch cereal.
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And he's over there
with the blender with
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his protein stuff and
putting raw eggs in it.
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And I'm thinking, what?
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Who does this, you know?
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He does.
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I was a running back,
and I wasn't very fast.
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I weighed about 205 pounds, and
my line averaged about 165 pounds.
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So I didn't have a
whole lot of blocking.
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And I ran north and
south because I wasn't fast
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enough to run east and
west, and I ran over people.
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Straight A student,
National Honor Society.
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Steve never drank beer or raised
hell during high school like I did.
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So every weekend, all my
buddies would come over.
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We're sitting on the back patio drinking
beer, raising hell, having a good time.
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And Steve would open
up his bedroom window.
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Y'all shut the hell up.
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I'm trying to sleep.
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He was popular, but he just had such
bigger dreams and goals for himself.
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He used to actually practice
signing autographs back in the day.
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We'd be in the kitchen.
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He'd be writing his name different ways,
trying to check out which would fit best.
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He'd ask my opinion.
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What the... what are
you talking about, man?
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At first, you know, I
wanted to be a rock star.
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But I can't sing, play any musical
instruments, so that's out the door.
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Channel 39 presents
Houston Wrestling.
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One day, my mom was in her
chair reading a Redbook magazine.
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And I was flipping channels,
and I came across Pro Wrestling.
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It was Houston Wrestling.
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For some reason, the
lighting, the smoke-filled
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arena, the rope
banister around the ring...
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One of the guys was
just bleeding like a stuck
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pig in a ring, and it
just resonated with me.
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I was like, holy cow.
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I fell in love with it that day.
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Growing up, we only
got three channels here.
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And Houston Wrestling
was on every Sunday.
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And Steve always watched it.
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If I wanted to watch
anything else, he said, man,
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you can have the TV
after wrestling's over with.
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And apparently, yeah, he
told, I guess, friends and my
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brothers that he was going
to be a wrestler one day.
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He said those words.
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Well, I'll be talking.
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You know, coming from a small
town, you don't really get noticed.
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You have to put in
a whole lot of work.
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And you got to kind of
get yourself out there.
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And he was able to do it.
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Coming out of high school, I went
to Wharton County Junior College.
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And they offered me a full ride
to North Texas State University.
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And football at that
level was more serious.
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This is the young
man we talked about.
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That was real good play.
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Yes.
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Real good play by Steve.
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He played very well.
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Gotten better every game.
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I really didn't care.
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I didn't enjoy the
process anymore.
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As far as the education
process goes, I had had
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an absolute gutful of
doing research papers.
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Algebra 2 and calculus
were kicking my ass.
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It just wasn't my cup of tea.
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I was through with college
and I wanted to drop out.
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So I did.
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But we had a connection
from the athletic
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department at North Texas
to Watkins Motor Lines.
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With 17 hours to go, I just
said, man, I'm out of here.
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Let me go work on a freight
dock and make that $400 a week.
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I love driving a forklift.
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I could pull your tooth.
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I could pull your
tooth with a forklift.
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But Watkins Motor Lines, we were 30
miles from the sport tournament in Dallas.
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So me and my buddies
would ride down there.
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We'd drink beer and throw stuff
at the wrestlers and raise hell.
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Man, the sport tournament was
the greatest building in the world.
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The atmosphere personified.
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And I'll never forget, man, we were
out there and me and my buddy Rob,
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he's giving me the elbow.
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He goes, man,
you're as big as him.
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He goes, you gotta get in this.
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Man, you ought to be a wrestler.
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I said, I'm going to do it.
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I'm going to do it.
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I'm going to do it.
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And so I'd wanted
to for a long time.
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And I'd be damned if I didn't
go home a couple days later.
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And I was changing channels.
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And there was that commercial that Chris
Adams put on for his wrestling academy.
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And I said, that's it.
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That's my way in.
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Hello, everybody.
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This is Gentleman Chris
Adams here bringing you
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exciting news about our
May 3-day pro wrestling camp.
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You'll spend three full days
working out in the same ring that
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you see on your TV here at
the world-famous sport at home.
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We'll be right back.
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The one thing that surprised me when
I showed up that first day, I just thought
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there was going to be a bunch of monsters
in there that looked like me, the killers
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that wanted to get in the
business of pro wrestling.
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But they were just regular
people off the street.
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I don't know if I met Steve
as much as I saw Steve.
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I was injured during a match.
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So I went up in what's
known as the crow's nest,
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where family and friends
could watch the matches.
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And that happened to be the first lesson
that Gentleman Chris Adams taught me.
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He was giving for his
new wrestling school.
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And me and a couple of guys were laughing
about how bad all of the trainees were.
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All of them except this
one guy with long blonde
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hair and definite, you
know, gift of athleticism.
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And it was clear that he had it.
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Whatever it is, he
had it right away.
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By the time he started
wrestling, it was mid to late 1989.
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Austin started
wrestling for the USWF.
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Which was the United
States Wrestling Association.
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So he was wrestling in
Memphis and in Texas and
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all points in between that
the USWA was running.
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I rolled into Nashville and
I needed a place to live.
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I didn't know where to go.
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And they said, hey man, try the
Congress Inn out on Dickerson Pike.
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So I rolled in there
and checked in.
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And man, I didn't have no money.
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So every week or whenever I had
enough money, I would pay my rent.
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Times were really, really lean.
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And I didn't have a hot plate.
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I didn't have a microwave.
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And I remember I went
to the grocery store.
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I bought some tuna fish cans.
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I bought some potatoes.
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And for breakfast, lunch, and
dinner, I'd eat tuna fish and potato.
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And after a few days,
I ran out of tuna fish.
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So for breakfast, lunch, and dinner,
I'd peel a raw potato and eat that.
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A lot of guys ended
up living with dancers.
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And a lot of guys knew
where all the buffets were.
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Any kind of all-you-can-eat
thing, they knew where they were.
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You had to figure out a
way to survive back then.
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There was a time period there where
I actually, I spent nights in my car.
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I think I'd made $11,000 in a year
and put 10,000 miles on my car.
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You were barely getting by.
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And so you're paying your dues,
traveling 400 miles to make $10.
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I'm making $15 to $20 a night,
making 400-mile round trips.
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You can't afford to eat.
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I remember calling my mom where she
called me and asked me how I was doing.
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And I said, Mom, is there
any way for my birthday
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this year you could
just send me 40 bucks?
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And it's the only time I ever
asked my parents for money.
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And sure enough, a couple of days
later, my mom sent me two $20 bills.
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And it meant the world to me because I
could afford to get something to eat again.
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That's part of paying your dues.
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And I just figured, you
know, starving or doing
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whatever it takes because
I didn't have a plan B.
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I wanted to be a pro wrestler.
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And so if this is what it takes to
be one, this is what I'm going to do.
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I had a lot of friends.
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I showed up to my
first match in Memphis.
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And Dutch Mantell
was the booker.
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I go introduce myself
to Dutch Mantell.
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I said, hey, man,
I'm Steve Williams.
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I'm here to wrestle.
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He goes, your name
is Steve Williams?
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He goes, you can't be that here.
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He goes, there's already
a Dr. Death Steve Williams.
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There'd be
confusion on the card.
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And he goes, you got 15 minutes.
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Come up with a name.
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And he walks away.
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And I'm just two months in the business,
new territory, don't know anybody,
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and don't know what the F to do.
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Match is about to start.
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And, you know, I'm making
a life-changing decision.
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And he goes, what
did you come up with?
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I said, I ain't got nothing.
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He goes, you're Steve Austin.
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And I started calling myself
Stunning Steve Austin.
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And I had a red robe
with sequins on it.
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All I did was wrestle.
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You know, go to the
gym in the morning, get in
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the car, go around
somewhere and drive back.
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That was life.
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I was a sponge.
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And I was absorbing all this information
from these great minds who would teach me
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information that they got
from generations before them.
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I've been very impressed
by Steve Austin.
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I'm looking at how far he's
come in such a short time.
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He's showing that he has the
potential to go a long, long way.
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He will miss.
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If he gets with the right kind of people,
he'll just sit back, listen, and learn.
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You watch the matches
and you listen to the crowd.
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You put the two together and watch what
they're doing and listen to the soundtrack.
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Oh, that works.
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That doesn't work.
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Oh, yeah!
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One, two, three!
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A place like USWA at that point, it
gave those wrestlers an opportunity
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where even if they were only making 10,
20, 30 bucks a night, the payoff was maybe
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someone from the WWE or World Championship
Wrestling at the time might see me and
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they'll bring me up and
kind of they'll be my guardian
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angel and suddenly I'll be
making way more money.
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Well, I think stunning
Steve Austin definitely
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has a fantastic future
ahead of him in this sport.
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At that time, I was on
the booking committee
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at WCW, which was World
Championship Wrestling.
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We were all challenged and compelled to
try to find some new faces, some new young
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athletic talents that we
could build that had potential.
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Gosh, he checked
all those boxes.
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Back in the day, the standard deal for
WCW, and this is crazy, you made 75 grand,
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you know, guaranteed.
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You go from getting anywhere from 20 to
60 or 100 bucks a night to 75,000 a year.
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It's like the motherlode.
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You know, again,
this is not 92, 93.
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That's a lot of money, especially
coming from where I came from.
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WCW is a little different level.
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Bigger television opportunities,
bigger chance for national exposure.
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Welcome back to World Championship
Wrestling, and I'm Missy Hyatt.
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And stunning Steve Austin
and vivacious Veronica.
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WCW, I think it's my first appearance in
a ring, and Missy Hyatt's gonna interview
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me, and I'm walking down the aisle,
and I'm just, I'm in another world, right?
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And I hear the announcer over the crowd
going, and from Hollywood, California.
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So I'm like, man, who the
is that guy talking about?
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I'm walking to the ring,
stunning Steve Austin.
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I'm like, when did my Texas ass with this
accent, you know, become from Hollywood,
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California?
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I would just like to take this
time to welcome you to the ring.
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Welcome you to World
Championship Wrestling.
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So I get out there and climb in the ring,
and I'm doing this interview with Missy
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Hyatt, and of course I
got the biggest booger
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you could have
hanging out of your nose.
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I was like, really?
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It wasn't a great
first appearance.
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Stunning Steve Austin!
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Steve always had
great natural intensity.
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It wasn't prefabricated.
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It wasn't manufactured.
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It was real.
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And you can see that
he could tap into his...
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athletic background
to bring a reality in the
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fight that very few other
people could match.
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Oh, did you see that?
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He had a solid run
throughout his time in WCW.
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At one point he was part of a
tag team, the Hollywood Blondes.
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They were this young, vibrant,
arrogant tag team spitting in the wind
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against the veterans of
that company at the time.
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But he was always one of the
secondary performers in the company.
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I don't think anyone...
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in WCW ever visualized Steve
Austin as being the top guy.
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I was keenly aware that there was that
upper level, and I wasn't a part of it.
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Unless something happened, you
could not break into that next tier.
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Aesthetically, I didn't
have the right look.
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I didn't have the right
gimmick or persona.
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They didn't think
I was marketable.
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Get out of my face!
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From the land of the rising sun.
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He was over in Japan on a three-week
tour, and the third night of that tour,
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I jumped off the top rope
to splash a guy, and he
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moved, and I tore my
right tricep off my elbow.
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And so I wrestled for two and
a half weeks and tore my tricep.
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You know, and as soon as I get back to
the United States, my first major surgery.
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And I remember getting a call from Eric
Mischoff, who was running WCW at the time,
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and he goes, Steve, I'm
just, you know, letting you
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know that, you know,
you're getting back in the ring.
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I'm fired.
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And so that's how it went down.
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Got a FedEx the next
day, and I was out of a job.
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I'm sitting there
trying to heal up now.
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00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:32,850
Buddy's gonna stop coming in.
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I got bills to pay and
my family to feed.
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00:17:36,110 --> 00:17:37,470
I'm like, man, what
am I gonna do?
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In September 1995, I
was the owner of ECW and
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00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,630
was in charge of all
the creative direction.
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Someone from WCW buzzed
me that Steve was being let go.
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So I called Steve and I said,
hey, I heard you got fired.
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00:17:54,071 --> 00:17:55,471
Right off the bat,
the phone rings.
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It's Paulie.
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00:17:56,690 --> 00:17:57,730
Paul calls me.
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00:17:57,870 --> 00:18:01,350
He goes, kid, why don't you
come over and start working for me?
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00:18:01,850 --> 00:18:03,790
I said, Paul, I
said, I can't work.
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00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:05,050
I said, I got a torn tricep.
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00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:07,110
Oh, hell, kid, I'm hurt.
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00:18:07,170 --> 00:18:08,170
I can't do anything.
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00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:10,690
Can you talk?
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00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:13,110
Oh, hell, kid, I can
talk all day long.
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00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:15,590
Come on up and talk.
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00:18:16,315 --> 00:18:17,846
And I said, man, what do
you want me to talk about?
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00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:21,110
He goes, he goes, just
talk about how you feel.
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00:18:22,410 --> 00:18:25,190
If you're pissed
off, come and vent.
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00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:26,450
Let's talk about that.
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00:18:26,675 --> 00:18:33,550
I wanted that authentic
outrage on my television show.
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00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,530
Sure enough, I am
flying up to Philly.
359
00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:40,450
We go to that goddang ECW
arena, which is a complete ho.
360
00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:44,670
ECW was, well, it was
purgatory, basically.
361
00:18:45,330 --> 00:18:47,430
Probably closer to
hell than purgatory.
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00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:52,680
ECW is Extreme Championship Wrestling,
and I dare say they earned the Extreme.
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00:18:52,681 --> 00:18:55,260
Extreme, uh, moniker.
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00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:07,200
At ECW, we were obsessed with delivering
performances that were going to redefine
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00:19:07,201 --> 00:19:10,620
the industry, with doing things
that had never been done before.
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00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:15,840
They were tables and barbed wire and blood
and guts and people flying into the crowd.
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00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,860
We took in misfits.
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00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:26,680
I mean, if there was an island
for misfit wrestlers, it was ECW.
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00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,560
Oh, my God!
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I'm the new guy
in the territory.
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00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:33,800
What's my mission?
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00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,500
What's my goal?
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Who am I?
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00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,060
What am I?
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00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,680
You know, you're kind of lost.
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00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:40,536
I'll never forget that night
when I cut this promo.
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00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,236
It was about seven or
eight minutes long, and I
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00:19:42,237 --> 00:19:44,701
just started talking, and
it was a one-take promo.
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00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960
And everything I
said was how I felt.
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00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:55,800
You know, a couple of weeks ago,
when Eric Bischoff told his secretary to
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00:19:55,801 --> 00:20:00,820
tell her secretary to leave a message on
my answering machine for me to call Eric
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00:20:00,821 --> 00:20:07,680
Bischoff, and then I called Eric Bischoff,
and he proceeded to fire me over the phone.
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00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,300
We're gonna put the U.S.
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title on you, and then we're gonna take
you here, and then you're the number-one
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00:20:12,261 --> 00:20:14,400
contender, so then you
get this world title shot.
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00:20:14,401 --> 00:20:16,280
Well, all of that
never happened.
387
00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:19,847
And when I wrapped up
that promo and they shut off
388
00:20:19,848 --> 00:20:22,221
that light, everybody in
that room started clapping.
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00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,560
Standing ovation,
and rightfully so.
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00:20:25,780 --> 00:20:29,291
He was able to express
himself in a way that you just
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00:20:29,292 --> 00:20:33,180
could not do or that we were
not allowed to do in WCW.
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00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,620
Man, after being held down or kind of
restrained in WCW or no one believed in
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00:20:38,621 --> 00:20:41,100
me, I knew that I had to
take chances on myself.
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00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:44,303
You could tell that he was
energized and that he had
395
00:20:44,304 --> 00:20:46,980
an axe to grind, and he
was grinding it really well.
396
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,960
And a lot of people
say that's kind of...
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00:20:49,961 --> 00:20:53,760
maybe that was the genesis of
what Stone Cold would come from.
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00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,760
Steve O'Meady is gonna
run wild on the ECW, brother.
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00:20:57,940 --> 00:20:59,200
I'm saying my first...
400
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:07,440
I'm not gonna do this
anywhere, not even in ECW.
401
00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:10,480
Well, Jim Ross was always
an admirer of Steve's talent.
402
00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,460
So I knew ECW was
always vulnerable.
403
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,060
That Jim Ross would
recruit Steve into WWE.
404
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,120
Once Steve did that interview
on ECW, Jim Ross came after him.
405
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,480
And rightfully so.
406
00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:24,860
How could he not?
407
00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:27,380
I didn't realize how fast
it was gonna happen.
408
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,760
WWE was subsidizing
ECW when Steve was there.
409
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,100
So we had our eye on
him for quite some time.
410
00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:36,220
At least I did.
411
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240
I just had to wait for the right place
at the right time to get him to WWE.
412
00:21:40,825 --> 00:21:42,960
So I made the phone rings,
and it's a maroon phone.
413
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,640
And I pick it up.
414
00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:45,720
Steve.
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00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,100
I said, man.
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00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,480
Hey Vince, how you doing?
417
00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:49,320
Hey.
418
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,180
Wanna bring you
in as the ringmaster.
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00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,140
Master of the ring.
420
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,356
From a creative standpoint,
the character of the ringmaster
421
00:21:58,357 --> 00:22:02,060
was the best in-ring
performer and could do it all.
422
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,560
And to me, that
was Steve Austin.
423
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,960
And I'm sitting there listening to Vince
make this pitch, and I'm like, ringmaster?
424
00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:10,740
First of all, it
sounds like shit.
425
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,360
But more importantly than that, I need
more money than I'm making from ECW.
426
00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:17,460
And I ain't got
no other options.
427
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:19,460
So I said, sounds good.
428
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,560
Let's do it.
429
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:26,730
When I joined WWE, I
know the territory was down.
430
00:22:27,070 --> 00:22:28,910
You know, things weren't great.
431
00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:30,390
They were getting by.
432
00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:33,299
But, you know, we'd go
out and, I don't know, it
433
00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:35,850
seemed like a house
would be like a quarter full.
434
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:40,050
But I was willing to be a part of
the system just because it's so new.
435
00:22:40,130 --> 00:22:41,130
It's so big.
436
00:22:41,330 --> 00:22:44,487
And I'm so far low down, you
know, that, you know, I ain't
437
00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:46,666
got no reason to act like
a big shot because I ain't.
438
00:22:46,690 --> 00:22:50,110
Here I am as a ringmaster, a
new gimmick, a bad gimmick.
439
00:22:51,090 --> 00:22:53,690
And, you know, you're, you
don't know who and what you are.
440
00:22:54,410 --> 00:22:55,490
He's all business, man.
441
00:22:55,650 --> 00:22:57,957
He's not in there trying to
impress anybody with how good
442
00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:00,130
he looks or, like, how
pretty his hair is or anything.
443
00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:02,610
He just wants to beat up
people and win matches.
444
00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:05,253
This character's a
stretch because I don't
445
00:23:05,254 --> 00:23:07,650
know what it is or
what it's supposed to be.
446
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:12,130
As ringmaster, I didn't know who and what
I was or how I'm supposed to do things.
447
00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:13,190
So it was very confusing.
448
00:23:13,930 --> 00:23:15,188
After a while, I just
stopped wearing the green
449
00:23:15,189 --> 00:23:16,850
trucks because they weren't
paying attention to me.
450
00:23:16,990 --> 00:23:19,730
So I'm thinking, I don't think
they really got plans for me.
451
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:23,868
Vince looked at Steve,
saw an average guy, says,
452
00:23:23,869 --> 00:23:27,111
I don't know what to do
with him and that accent.
453
00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:28,710
It's just...
454
00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:30,790
I can't relate to him.
455
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:32,550
There's nothing about
him I can relate to.
456
00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:36,970
All my initial impressions of
him was, he's wasting my time.
457
00:23:37,570 --> 00:23:41,130
There was no way to go with
the ringmaster to make it marquee.
458
00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:43,130
I don't give a damn who he is.
459
00:23:43,150 --> 00:23:43,850
Who was doing it?
460
00:23:43,910 --> 00:23:44,910
There's nothing there.
461
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:47,670
And I said, man, I said, this
gimmick ain't worth a shit.
462
00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:50,373
And after six months
or so, you know, Vince
463
00:23:50,374 --> 00:23:52,750
was kind of like, I
don't care what he does.
464
00:23:52,910 --> 00:23:55,750
If he's not happy and he wants to
come up with another name, let him.
465
00:23:56,190 --> 00:24:01,090
I was living in a log cabin on 10 acres
right outside of Georgia in Douglasville.
466
00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:04,690
And I was over there in my log
cabin and I was drinking some beer.
467
00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:08,260
And that's when they had that special on
HBO about Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman.
468
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:14,190
Well, Richard Kuklinski was a
hit man, you know, for the mob.
469
00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:15,510
He's cold-blooded.
470
00:24:15,610 --> 00:24:16,610
He's remorseless.
471
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:18,450
I was glued to the set.
472
00:24:18,970 --> 00:24:21,746
When you're sitting there watching
and you got a couple of beers flowing,
473
00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:23,950
it's like, shh, man, this
could be something.
474
00:24:25,090 --> 00:24:29,731
And I pitched that and, you know, that
was when all the ideas started flowing.
475
00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:32,790
That's a tricky situation where
you're fairly new in the company.
476
00:24:33,970 --> 00:24:36,861
Mr. McMahon has agreed
to give you a character
477
00:24:36,862 --> 00:24:39,410
change and you were
given a list from creative.
478
00:24:39,550 --> 00:24:43,790
The fact that I can rattle off more of
Stone Cold's names than the terrible names
479
00:24:43,791 --> 00:24:46,770
that I was given speaks
to just how bad they were.
480
00:24:47,290 --> 00:24:50,610
I'd just gotten those three pages
of names like Fang McFrost.
481
00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:52,310
Snowman.
482
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,750
Otto Von Ruthless.
483
00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:54,950
Mr. Freeze.
484
00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:56,580
Ice Dagger.
485
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:57,530
Ice Dagger.
486
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:58,350
Cool Luke.
487
00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:59,570
Fang McFrost.
488
00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:00,710
Cool Cat.
489
00:25:00,850 --> 00:25:01,850
Chilly McFreeze.
490
00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:03,010
Chilly McFreeze.
491
00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:06,030
I mean, some of the worst
names you could ever imagine.
492
00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:06,970
Even given...
493
00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:10,910
Even everything else in the Austin
package, if he's Fang McFrost or Chilly
494
00:25:10,911 --> 00:25:13,310
McFreeze, we're not having
this interview right now.
495
00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:18,580
And my wife at the time
made me a cup of hot tea.
496
00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:21,060
And she goes, drink your
tea before it gets Stone Cold.
497
00:25:21,580 --> 00:25:23,480
And she looks at me, she
goes, that's your name?
498
00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:25,360
Stone Cold Steve Austin?
499
00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:28,122
You know, I'm not a
rocket scientist, but when
500
00:25:28,123 --> 00:25:30,000
she said that name, I
knew that was the one.
501
00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:32,080
I said, okay, this
is a good name.
502
00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:34,634
And I wanted it to be from
Victoria, Texas, because, you
503
00:25:34,635 --> 00:25:37,800
know, I just thought it had a
good ring to it, a good sound.
504
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,080
But, okay, now, who is this guy?
505
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:42,020
Who and what is Stone
Cold Steve Austin?
506
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,340
I got me some black boots made.
507
00:25:44,580 --> 00:25:47,700
I always thought black was badass,
and, you know, menacing from Darth Vader,
508
00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:50,340
Oakland Raiders-type
stuff, and it fit my persona.
509
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,700
I remember one time, we were in
Pittsburgh, and we were about to work
510
00:25:53,701 --> 00:25:57,420
Mellon Arena, and there I was with that
buzz haircut, and, you know, I looked in
511
00:25:57,421 --> 00:25:59,301
the mirror, and I said,
man, what are you doing?
512
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:03,360
So I buzzed the doll off with a razor,
and then that's when I started messing
513
00:26:03,361 --> 00:26:06,220
with the mustache and finally
turned into a goatee, so I started with...
514
00:26:06,221 --> 00:26:09,660
Once I got that goatee down, you
know, that's when things started getting a
515
00:26:09,661 --> 00:26:13,320
little bit more menacing, and it
picked up the visual that I needed.
516
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,120
I believed in the character because
the character was a real person.
517
00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:29,320
Steve totally embraced the
presentation of Stone Cold Steve Austin.
518
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:31,820
He loved it.
519
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,560
He owned it.
520
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,060
He created it.
521
00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:42,960
He was bold enough to bet on himself
and push and push and push until a big man
522
00:26:42,961 --> 00:26:45,761
almost threw his hands up and
said, okay, okay, let's go, let's try it.
523
00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:48,200
He just needs a chance.
524
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,380
Give him a reason to
be a main event guy.
525
00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:59,660
1995 to 1996, Stone Cold starting to find
himself as a character, and then they had
526
00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:02,740
the 1996 King of the Ring tournament,
which would take place in June.
527
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,020
The King of the Ring is
a one-night pay-per-view.
528
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,008
Wrestlers all go through this
tournament, and the winner
529
00:27:09,009 --> 00:27:11,221
is pretty much earmarked
to be the next great star.
530
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,040
That's the message
from the company.
531
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,827
We're going to try and
push them and promote
532
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,280
them and move them
up behind the scenes.
533
00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:19,780
It had already been planned.
534
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,400
Triple H was going
to win King of the Ring.
535
00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:25,356
But before that, Triple
H ended up punished for
536
00:27:25,357 --> 00:27:27,581
this role with something
called the curtain call.
537
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,237
We did a big no-no in the
wrestling business where
538
00:27:30,238 --> 00:27:32,521
all of us came together in
Madison Square Garden.
539
00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:35,460
Myself, Triple H, Kevin
Nash, and Scott Hall.
540
00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:37,220
What?
541
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:38,860
Oh, my God!
542
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Oh, my God!
543
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,700
We were expressing a real friendship out
there that had really nothing to do with
544
00:27:46,701 --> 00:27:51,020
whatever was going on in the WWE at
the time or from a storyline standpoint.
545
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:54,634
We were pulling the
curtain back more so than
546
00:27:54,635 --> 00:27:57,921
anyone wanted the
curtain being pulled back.
547
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:02,460
It's very frowned upon, and
Triple H got in a lot of trouble.
548
00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:05,840
Did you know you were on the
trajectory to win King of the Ring?
549
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:06,140
Yeah.
550
00:28:06,141 --> 00:28:06,340
Oh, yeah.
551
00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:07,600
It was already...
552
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,200
Vince had sat me down,
talked to me about it.
553
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Here's where I want
to go, King of the Ring.
554
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:14,020
And for me, that was
the next level, right?
555
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,460
And, you know,
that all went away.
556
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,730
So in the pecking order, as
you looked at it, you looked
557
00:28:19,731 --> 00:28:24,280
at who needed that boost and
who needed maybe just a nudge.
558
00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:25,740
Steve was the guy.
559
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,640
I'm walking in the building,
dragging my suitcase behind me.
560
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,300
I hear this voice.
561
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,360
It's Vince.
562
00:28:31,420 --> 00:28:33,485
He goes, Steve, I just
want to let you know,
563
00:28:33,486 --> 00:28:36,381
in two weeks, you win
the King of the Ring.
564
00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:38,740
I was pretty happy.
565
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:40,458
Because, you know, when
you win the King of the
566
00:28:40,459 --> 00:28:41,940
Ring, you're going to
get a big shove after that.
567
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120
And before, there were
no future plans for me.
568
00:28:52,820 --> 00:28:54,818
I go to Milwaukee, the
Mecca Arena, and I go
569
00:28:54,819 --> 00:28:57,421
out there and I'm
working with Mark Merrow.
570
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,620
And we do this thing, we're having a
match, and he kicks me in my mouth.
571
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,780
And we finish the match.
572
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,220
I beat him.
573
00:29:03,221 --> 00:29:07,400
My mouth is busted open pretty bad, so they
take me in an ambulance to the hospital.
574
00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:10,623
And so I get stitched up
14 stitches or whatever
575
00:29:10,624 --> 00:29:12,820
in my upper lip, and
they bring me back.
576
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Because I'm going to wrestle Jake the
Snake Roberts in the finals, and I'm going
577
00:29:16,041 --> 00:29:17,556
to beat Jake and become
the King of the Ring.
578
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:20,980
When I come back, my mouth is stitched up,
and as soon as I get out of the ambulance,
579
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,320
there's Michael Hayes.
580
00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:25,880
We're in the back of the
Mecca Arena, and he came out.
581
00:29:25,940 --> 00:29:28,460
He was going to the
ring to go take on Jake.
582
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,200
I mean, literally
going to the ring.
583
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760
And I said, Jake
just cut a promo.
584
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,780
He says, what did he say?
585
00:29:32,781 --> 00:29:35,373
And I said, you know,
he just uses some Bible
586
00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:37,500
quotes and, you know,
that he was going to win.
587
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,440
My soul was purchased by the blood of the
Lamb, so how could I lose if I just go out
588
00:29:42,441 --> 00:29:46,020
there and know the power above
is reaching down and lifting me up?
589
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,320
And when he told me that, I immediately
thought of the football days back in the
590
00:29:50,321 --> 00:29:52,680
day when they're kicking
the field goals a point after.
591
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,240
They always had John 316
signs behind the field goals.
592
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,600
So anyway, we go out there, and we have
the match, myself and Jake, and because my
593
00:30:00,601 --> 00:30:02,580
lip was busted up, we
had a real short match.
594
00:30:02,780 --> 00:30:05,109
After the match, I go over
there to do the interview
595
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:07,441
with Michael Hayes, who
had smartened me up.
596
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,660
You thump your Bible, and you say your
prayers, and it didn't get you anywhere.
597
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,260
Talk about your Psalms.
598
00:30:15,261 --> 00:30:16,880
Talk about John 316.
599
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,340
Austin 316 says, I
just whipped your ass.
600
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,520
Austin 316 says, I
just whipped your ass.
601
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,100
Austin 316 says, I
just whipped your ass.
602
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:29,456
Said, I just whipped your ass.
603
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,600
I just whipped your ass.
604
00:30:30,601 --> 00:30:33,360
And thus, a franchise was born.
605
00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:38,700
There was a vibe of, like, a rocket
ship igniting its engine to take off.
606
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,160
That was the moment where
the character really became a star.
607
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,260
That's the epicenter of the
explosion that eventually happens.
608
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,444
I remember thinking
halfway through this
609
00:30:49,456 --> 00:30:51,580
promo, like, I'm watching
this guy get made.
610
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,140
And part of me was like,
holy, that should have been me.
611
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,660
But also, holy, I wouldn't
have cut that promo.
612
00:30:57,661 --> 00:31:01,328
And I think the stitches
in his lip and coming
613
00:31:01,329 --> 00:31:04,220
back only added to the
aura of that interview.
614
00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:05,620
I just got back from hospital.
615
00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:08,040
So I just kind of put
that together in my head.
616
00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,360
And I didn't know what kind of
holy moment that was, but it was.
617
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,300
And then on the back side of
it, I knew I needed to wrap it up.
618
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,560
I needed to put a button on it.
619
00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:19,140
And that's the bottom
line for Kostanko Setso.
620
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,540
And that's the bottom line, because
Kostanko Setso was on the spot.
621
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720
I went to bat twice, and
I hit two grand slams.
622
00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,460
Out of any event, I was
never supposed to win.
623
00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:30,860
Next night, we showed up.
624
00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:33,077
All of a sudden, there's
the Austin 316 signs,
625
00:31:33,078 --> 00:31:35,621
and we realized there
might be something here.
626
00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:46,330
Next night on Raw, you saw all these
Austin 316 signs all over the building.
627
00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:52,030
I remember thinking to myself at that
time, man, everything happens for a
628
00:31:52,031 --> 00:31:55,830
reason, because this guy
is going to be massive now.
629
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:57,970
One day, I'm talking
to our merch guy.
630
00:31:57,971 --> 00:31:59,470
I'm sitting in the arena.
631
00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:03,570
He goes, Steven, Office finally
wants to come up with a T-shirt for you.
632
00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:04,820
You got any ideas?
633
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:07,370
I said, you're
goddamn right I do.
634
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,191
I said, put Austin 316 on the front, put a
skull in the back, and carve in Stone Cold.
635
00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:14,530
Okay, Steven.
636
00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:18,190
And sure enough, we came up with that
shirt, and it sold like a son of a bitch.
637
00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:23,310
From that point on, when he got the chance
to speak, there was an intensity there
638
00:32:23,311 --> 00:32:25,630
that you couldn't help but
want to watch that segment.
639
00:32:25,890 --> 00:32:28,061
The way he walked, the
way he stalked the crowd,
640
00:32:28,141 --> 00:32:30,530
the way he looked at
people, he had that icy glare.
641
00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:34,010
Because he was in the zone at that
level, you couldn't help but be like,
642
00:32:34,315 --> 00:32:35,466
got to see what
he's going to do.
643
00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:38,150
Why do you keep asking
me stupid questions?
644
00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:41,430
No second thought I'll
whip your asses right now.
645
00:32:41,730 --> 00:32:42,570
Shut up.
646
00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:45,210
Stone Cold never gave
a rat's ass about anybody.
647
00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:49,770
I don't know what pressure is, fat
boy, but I got a big bunch of bananas,
648
00:32:50,050 --> 00:32:52,450
and I can tell you where to
stick each and every one of them.
649
00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:56,450
You ain't worth the
sweat off of my... Hey.
650
00:32:56,451 --> 00:32:56,530
Hey.
651
00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:57,350
Hey.
652
00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:03,271
My mom used to tell me, Steven, if you
were on TV, I wouldn't let you watch you.
653
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:04,790
You're a piece of garbage.
654
00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:05,370
Oh, no.
655
00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:07,230
See, take your
camera and stick it, son.
656
00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:10,017
I ain't leaving yet, and
you can stop counting
657
00:33:10,018 --> 00:33:12,250
me down, because I
done told you once, son.
658
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:13,510
We got a damn album.
659
00:33:13,511 --> 00:33:14,730
Hey, hey, wait a minute.
660
00:33:15,270 --> 00:33:17,530
There's a production assistant.
661
00:33:19,810 --> 00:33:22,710
He is now the guy in
the eyes of the audience.
662
00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:24,110
Like, he can do no wrong.
663
00:33:24,290 --> 00:33:25,570
They want to be
part of that chaos.
664
00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:26,946
They want to be
part of that energy.
665
00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:31,110
They want to go and experience
Stone Cold Steve Austin, the act, live.
666
00:33:31,950 --> 00:33:34,680
You really start feeling that
momentum, because you're finally
667
00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:37,390
getting the desired response
that you want from these people.
668
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:40,890
So now that I'm getting that
feedback, I can feed it to you.
669
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:46,710
Throughout that period of time, I'm
trying my hardest to entertain you or
670
00:33:46,711 --> 00:33:49,730
grab your heartstrings to make
you feel what I'm feeling, channel that.
671
00:33:50,510 --> 00:33:54,446
I'm doing my damnedest
to try to affect you, and I
672
00:33:54,447 --> 00:33:57,611
guess I was effective at
making people feel emotions.
673
00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,906
There's a perception that
Steve just came out of nowhere.
674
00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:04,890
That's a misconception
on a lot of people's parts.
675
00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:09,550
Stone Cold lived within, and
it took ten years to come out.
676
00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:15,570
If you look at that time period,
the WWE was at its lowest point.
677
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:17,504
The only way they could
have gone any lower is going
678
00:34:17,505 --> 00:34:19,491
out of business or for
the company to fall apart.
679
00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:22,550
He dragged them into success.
680
00:34:22,910 --> 00:34:27,250
Austin's ascension is tied
intricately to the ascension of WWE.
681
00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:29,130
We're coming back to life.
682
00:34:29,330 --> 00:34:30,350
The flame isn't dead.
683
00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:35,070
By 1997, Stone Cold's
the hottest he's ever been.
684
00:34:35,425 --> 00:34:38,890
The company's building him as one
of the biggest stars in their company.
685
00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:40,830
He's driving revenue.
686
00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:41,930
He's selling merchandise.
687
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:42,990
He's making money.
688
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:46,670
But up next, ladies and gentlemen, the
Intercontinental Championship matchup.
689
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:50,610
It's Owen Hart in a title defense
against Stone Cold Steve Austin.
690
00:34:50,890 --> 00:34:52,790
Me and Owen, we're
gonna have a hell of a match.
691
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:57,450
And we had had this plan where he'd end
up hitting me with a tombstone piledriver.
692
00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:00,790
And I said, you go down
to your knees, right?
693
00:35:00,910 --> 00:35:02,006
Because I'm
looking for clearance.
694
00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:03,150
He goes, no, I go to my ass.
695
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:06,110
I said, but it seemed like you
got to go down to your knees.
696
00:35:06,210 --> 00:35:06,850
He goes, no.
697
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:11,370
And when Owen said, this is how I do
it, I trusted him because he's Owen Hart.
698
00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:15,890
And so anyway, we get out
there and things go like they did.
699
00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:18,518
And man, he goes to
his ass and my head is
700
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,890
sticking out about six
inches below his ass.
701
00:35:21,891 --> 00:35:23,430
And boy, I got
spiked on the mat.
702
00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:24,590
And it was not good.
703
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:27,410
Let's see what Austin
can do with Eamon.
704
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,050
No.
705
00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:29,210
How about that?
706
00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:29,850
A good read.
707
00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:31,190
Let's go.
708
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:32,510
Tombstone piledriver.
709
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:34,230
Shades of the Undertaker.
710
00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:38,930
Yeah, it was gnarly.
711
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:42,830
You could tell immediately that Steve
was, you know, that he was injured.
712
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:48,970
It sounded like
someone hit a big gong.
713
00:35:49,570 --> 00:35:55,151
And it was my skull, you know, striking
that damn ring dead center in the middle.
714
00:35:57,010 --> 00:36:00,450
And then I didn't feel anything because
I'm laying there and I'm paralyzed.
715
00:36:00,770 --> 00:36:04,250
And I was like, man, on one hand, I
could have freaked out and got scared.
716
00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:06,470
But instead, I remained calm.
717
00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:08,710
I was like, don't touch me.
718
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:09,170
I can't move.
719
00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:12,590
And so he starts buying time because
I think I'm never going to move again.
720
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:18,530
As soon as he got
injured, I called his wife up.
721
00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:21,010
I said, hey, did
you really get hurt?
722
00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:23,030
Or was this a show?
723
00:36:23,330 --> 00:36:24,970
He said, no, he really got hurt.
724
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:28,150
It was 1997 to this day.
725
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:32,490
I cry about it every
time I hear about it.
726
00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:35,070
I'm thinking, I got to
get out of this match.
727
00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:37,150
I got to get out of this
match so we can go back.
728
00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:39,410
And Earl Hebner's a
referee in that match.
729
00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:42,010
And I told Earl, I said,
tell him roll up for the win.
730
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:44,110
I thought I could start
moving my arms and legs.
731
00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:46,498
And when I tried to, if
you go back and watch
732
00:36:46,499 --> 00:36:48,510
that, it's like my knees
are creaking together.
733
00:36:48,511 --> 00:36:49,551
I get in a crawl position.
734
00:36:49,830 --> 00:36:52,590
And I can't crawl like this
because my hands don't work.
735
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:55,130
So I had to crawl
using my forearms.
736
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:59,735
And I give him the
initial thing, and he
737
00:36:59,736 --> 00:37:01,750
goes with me, and
he doesn't try to fight it.
738
00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:03,746
It's the worst roll up in
the history of the business.
739
00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:03,890
He's driving.
740
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:05,630
No, kick it out!
741
00:37:06,590 --> 00:37:08,850
And man, I am gone.
742
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:12,010
I've been, you know, a
quadriplegic for 60 seconds.
743
00:37:12,190 --> 00:37:14,170
And my world has been
turned upside down.
744
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:17,830
The referees come to the ring,
and they, three of them help me up.
745
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:22,450
I got my arms around their shoulders,
and I pull them off because I want to get
746
00:37:22,451 --> 00:37:24,706
up, and I want to address
that crowd and hold up that belt.
747
00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:25,815
And the only reason
I held up that belt was
748
00:37:25,835 --> 00:37:27,930
to signal the crowd
that, hey, man, I'm cool.
749
00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:32,710
And man, when you look at that, my
eyes are open, but I'm worlds away.
750
00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:38,490
The referees help me to the back,
and as I'm walking, this leg is dragging
751
00:37:38,491 --> 00:37:41,450
behind me for quite a bit
because of my nerve damage.
752
00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:46,370
I watched Steve stand up
on legs that he couldn't feel.
753
00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:52,270
I don't know how in the hell,
Steve, still that he was able to get up.
754
00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:57,570
That's a will that supersedes
what the body can do.
755
00:37:58,590 --> 00:37:59,950
Everybody thought
I broke my neck.
756
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:00,650
I didn't break my neck.
757
00:38:00,730 --> 00:38:01,730
I bruised my spinal cord.
758
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:02,910
I'm a pretty tough guy.
759
00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:07,850
On that night, I was
1% tough and 99% lucky.
760
00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:13,350
You know, and that's why I get a little
bit emotional about it because if anything
761
00:38:13,351 --> 00:38:16,590
would have went any differently,
I'd have been in a wheelchair.
762
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:18,466
I wouldn't be sitting
here talking to you.
763
00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:21,130
Nothing that ever happened
after that would have happened.
764
00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:23,050
Everything was on the line.
765
00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:24,506
Where are the ambulance people?
766
00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:25,770
Where are the ambulance people?
767
00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:26,890
Get the ambulance.
768
00:38:27,370 --> 00:38:29,030
You want to just
call 911 or what?
769
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:30,130
Get the medics.
770
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:31,270
No, they're over there.
771
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:36,192
I'd put on a pair of shorts
and I was sitting up there
772
00:38:36,193 --> 00:38:39,410
against the wall and I was
like... Well, I was shaking.
773
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,590
I kind of started crying a little
bit because it scared me so bad.
774
00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:47,930
I think an injury of that magnitude
makes us question our own mortality.
775
00:38:47,931 --> 00:38:50,590
And that's not something
we're often faced with.
776
00:38:54,270 --> 00:38:56,903
And I remember I passed
the test in the hospital,
777
00:38:56,983 --> 00:38:59,050
but the doctor said,
you know, you're pretty...
778
00:39:01,810 --> 00:39:05,550
Initially, Dr. Torg said, man,
you're not getting back in the ring.
779
00:39:05,965 --> 00:39:07,802
And it's easy for a doctor
to sit there and tell me
780
00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:09,991
maybe you ought to think
about doing something else.
781
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,290
But this is what Steve
Austin has done for a living.
782
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:14,710
I've done it for eight years.
783
00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:17,398
Austin 316 started a
year and a half ago and
784
00:39:17,399 --> 00:39:19,230
I ain't ready to give
that up for nobody.
785
00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:21,370
And no one's gonna
run me out of wrestling.
786
00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:23,826
And there ain't a doctor in the
world that can make me quit.
787
00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:26,430
It took me long
enough to get to the top.
788
00:39:26,890 --> 00:39:30,641
And you get to the top and
it's like, man, you're riding
789
00:39:30,642 --> 00:39:33,330
a lightning bolt and you're
going 100 miles an hour.
790
00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:37,470
Then all of a sudden, man, out of
nowhere, you come to a screeching halt.
791
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:40,290
Here was this opportunity
he worked so hard for.
792
00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:43,830
And like that, it
could all be over.
793
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,210
After that bad injury, my
anterior delts were on fire.
794
00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:51,350
For like a couple of weeks.
795
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:53,390
I mean, like someone
put Icy Hot on them.
796
00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:54,510
It was the weirdest thing.
797
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:56,390
And I didn't think it
was ever gonna stop.
798
00:39:56,590 --> 00:39:58,190
And it turned into an itch.
799
00:39:58,290 --> 00:40:00,110
And then finally, it went away.
800
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:08,570
When I took that piledriver back in the
day, when those reps were carrying me out,
801
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:11,290
you can watch my left leg
kind of dragging behind me.
802
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:16,330
So like, if I get cold, you
know, that leg will kind of...
803
00:40:16,331 --> 00:40:18,910
It just doesn't
respond the same.
804
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:20,570
And, you know, just...
805
00:40:20,571 --> 00:40:24,710
When you bruise your spinal
cord and that stuff happens, it just...
806
00:40:24,711 --> 00:40:25,711
It does a reverse.
807
00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:30,030
So I've got some atrophy
and some stuff like that.
808
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,880
Coming out of the pro
wrestling does this...
809
00:40:35,881 --> 00:40:38,960
I ask the guys that are five years older
than me and ten years older than me,
810
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:40,180
hey, man, how you feeling?
811
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,100
So I kind of know what's next.
812
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,736
You know, what
they're going through.
813
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Because I know they've been
through the same that I have.
814
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,980
I've never had any neck pain.
815
00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,885
You know, everybody
always thinks, hey, man,
816
00:40:49,886 --> 00:40:51,880
Steve got dropped on his
head and he got a fusion.
817
00:40:51,881 --> 00:40:53,260
His neck's all jacked up.
818
00:40:53,845 --> 00:40:54,845
Man, I feel good.
819
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:57,820
You know, every now and then if I'm
sitting around too long, I'll get a little
820
00:40:57,821 --> 00:40:59,496
gimped up, just got
to stretch it a little bit.
821
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200
But I really can't
complain about anything.
822
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:05,178
Through all the surgeries and
just the wear and tear of the
823
00:41:05,179 --> 00:41:08,160
road, for what it's worth,
through all the stuff, I feel good.
824
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:12,675
To WWE's credit, Steve's
credit, they managed
825
00:41:12,676 --> 00:41:15,460
to take that injury and
he became even bigger.
826
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,360
It has been said that anything can happen
here in the World Wrestling Federation,
827
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,860
but now more than ever, truer
words have never been spoken.
828
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,140
This is a conscious effort on our part to
open the creative envelope, so to speak,
829
00:41:26,635 --> 00:41:28,980
in order to entertain you in a
more contemporary manner.
830
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:35,400
For me, the start of the Attitude Era was
the day in late 1997 when Mr. McMahon
831
00:41:35,401 --> 00:41:42,040
addressed the roster, admitted that the
old days were gone and that if we were
832
00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,978
going to succeed, we
would have to put our
833
00:41:44,979 --> 00:41:47,380
own personal emphasis
into these characters.
834
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,834
The Attitude Era is
a point in time in pro
835
00:41:50,835 --> 00:41:54,781
wrestling history where
WWE got a lot edgier.
836
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,700
It becomes violent.
837
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:01,140
It becomes chaotic.
838
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,440
They pushed
sexuality with women.
839
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,800
They pushed storylines that
were blatantly over the top.
840
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:13,120
Everybody felt this interesting shift
that was happening in wrestling, and that
841
00:42:13,121 --> 00:42:17,940
seismic shift now was away from
the cartoon era, the superhero era,
842
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,060
if you will, in pro wrestling, into
an edgier, reality-based program.
843
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,840
The Attitude Era was
the era of reality, the
844
00:42:26,841 --> 00:42:30,841
era of pushing the
limits as far as we could.
845
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:32,480
It's the golden era.
846
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,760
The Attitude Era, a lot of it
was blending reality and fiction.
847
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,251
It was more real
and more versions of
848
00:42:42,263 --> 00:42:45,100
ourselves just with the
volume turned way up.
849
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:46,220
Suck it!
850
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:54,640
I would imagine doing the suck it probably
caused more suspensions and detentions in
851
00:42:54,641 --> 00:42:58,500
school than any other thing in
the history of school in America.
852
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,300
We saw the very best in
what people had to offer.
853
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,440
It's awesome!
854
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,040
And Steve happened to have been the best
of all of us at bringing that to the plate.
855
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,560
He was in a
different stratosphere.
856
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:12,340
It was the era of holy shit.
857
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,980
Steve's Glass was the
soundtrack to holy shit.
858
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:24,760
No matter what was
happening, holy shit, right?
859
00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:25,920
Like that was the moment.
860
00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:28,140
I'm getting goosebumps
right now talking about it.
861
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:38,260
Whether it's an arena of 2,000 or 20,000
or 100,000, they know when that glass
862
00:43:38,261 --> 00:43:41,261
breaks, there's a sumbitch coming
out there to deal out a can of world bass.
863
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,420
When that glass broke, here he came
with his whole, you know, head bouncing,
864
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,508
you know, and, you know,
he's saying whatever he's
865
00:43:49,548 --> 00:43:51,760
saying under his breath,
and you just see that attitude.
866
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,384
I remember the first
time I heard that glass
867
00:43:57,385 --> 00:43:59,600
break and I saw him
walk down to the ring.
868
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,140
It was the first time that I ever
got goosebumps in my entire life.
869
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,820
20,000, 40,000, 60,000 people
were going absolutely insane.
870
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,080
I said, I want to
be like that guy.
871
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,160
In that moment, I said, I
need to be a pro wrestler.
872
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,460
That was the walk of a guy who'd been
down the road, paid his dues, learned the
873
00:44:18,461 --> 00:44:22,120
business, got over despite what
anybody else thought about him.
874
00:44:22,180 --> 00:44:23,520
This guy's not marketable.
875
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,776
He's never going
to draw no money.
876
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,880
The company finally picked me,
and that's the guy walking to the ring.
877
00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:33,100
The character of Stone Cold Steve
Austin was a very reality-based persona,
878
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:35,600
which is not what this
industry was built on.
879
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:42,720
So the whole attitude era that was ushered
in was ushered in as an extension of the
880
00:44:42,721 --> 00:44:47,180
personality that was brought
out by Stone Cold Steve Austin.
881
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:55,000
And that makes him, in many ways, the
most pivotal human being and character
882
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:57,300
in pro wrestling history.
883
00:44:57,660 --> 00:44:59,200
Now we have to
go a little bit higher.
884
00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:00,940
Now we have to
go a little bit bigger.
885
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:06,280
Stone Cold's success in the attitude
era can be attributed to many people.
886
00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:14,660
But in order for your star hero to
become successful, he has to have real,
887
00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:16,440
viable villains.
888
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:21,860
Vince McMahon was the
greatest villain in the attitude era.
889
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Bar none.
890
00:45:24,940 --> 00:45:28,728
Vince would show up in some
way, take away that thing that
891
00:45:28,729 --> 00:45:32,420
you desperately wanted as
a fan, and it drove me insane.
892
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,784
And that's why the attitude
era was so popular, was
893
00:45:35,884 --> 00:45:38,060
that Vince versus Stone
Cold, you know, rivalry.
894
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,180
Vince and I were tailor-made
for each other to work together.
895
00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:45,000
Vince was unique
because he was the owner.
896
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,340
Now he's feuding with me.
897
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,140
It's a real storyline.
898
00:45:47,141 --> 00:45:49,360
You can kiss my ass!
899
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:58,650
All of a sudden, it wasn't
just about wrestling.
900
00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:03,390
It was about this guy who was
an employee against his boss.
901
00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:06,370
And everybody's an
employee that has a boss.
902
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:08,688
And a lot of times,
the employee has not
903
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,950
liked what the boss
has done or said to him.
904
00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:12,050
Screw you!
905
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:13,610
You're fired!
906
00:46:14,370 --> 00:46:15,450
Vince is crazy.
907
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:16,990
He really is.
908
00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:18,490
That stuff is not fair.
909
00:46:18,491 --> 00:46:22,610
Far from what Vince would
do as to what Mr. McMahon did.
910
00:46:23,170 --> 00:46:27,790
Mr. McMahon is a character
that's no way in the world like me.
911
00:46:28,170 --> 00:46:29,290
We'll start with that.
912
00:46:29,570 --> 00:46:30,670
But he's arrogant.
913
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:36,910
I am a handsome,
affluent entrepreneur.
914
00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:39,050
He's rich.
915
00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:40,630
I said black tie.
916
00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:43,110
He can treat people like crap.
917
00:46:43,530 --> 00:46:48,290
The thought of you, Austin, makes me
physically ill, makes me want to vomit!
918
00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:52,850
Everyday people saw something of
themselves in Steve, and they saw Mr.
919
00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:55,450
McMahon as the system
that was holding them down.
920
00:46:55,730 --> 00:47:00,073
Nobody, especially Vince
McMahon, tells Stone Cold
921
00:47:00,074 --> 00:47:03,290
Steve Austin what to do,
and that's the bottom line.
922
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:05,939
It was the consummate
working class hero,
923
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:09,311
Stone Cold Steve Austin,
against the machine.
924
00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:15,230
Steve was the rage
against the machine.
925
00:47:15,650 --> 00:47:17,350
The lipstick is here!
926
00:47:17,351 --> 00:47:19,010
Oh, my God, I
don't believe this.
927
00:47:19,210 --> 00:47:21,650
That's one of the core events
of Mr. McMahon's collection.
928
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:22,990
That's a $50,000 car!
929
00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:26,950
At that time, everybody wanted
to be Stone Cold Steve Austin.
930
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:31,850
He captured everybody's
feelings perfectly.
931
00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:37,990
You are the world's
dumbest son of a bitch!
932
00:47:38,570 --> 00:47:40,805
Vince was like a kid in a
candy store getting to work
933
00:47:40,806 --> 00:47:42,911
with me, because he always
wanted to be a wrestler.
934
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:47,750
He finally got a chance to perform,
not just oversee and give instructions.
935
00:47:48,070 --> 00:47:50,774
If you go back, man, you
watch some of the blue jeans I
936
00:47:50,775 --> 00:47:53,410
wore, some of the shorts I
wore would get ringing tight.
937
00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:56,230
I couldn't physically pick
my leg up high enough.
938
00:47:56,410 --> 00:47:57,970
Always the target is the gut.
939
00:47:58,130 --> 00:48:00,367
But when you can't pick
your leg up high enough,
940
00:48:00,368 --> 00:48:02,190
right below the
stomach is the testicles.
941
00:48:02,510 --> 00:48:04,206
He didn't know where
those kicks were coming.
942
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:06,070
You know, he really,
he had no idea.
943
00:48:06,190 --> 00:48:07,070
He had no idea.
944
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:09,706
He was gonna make contact with
something that was in front of him.
945
00:48:09,730 --> 00:48:16,251
So many times, I kicked him right in
the jewels and he just went... Steve.
946
00:48:16,990 --> 00:48:20,890
You know, if Steve kicks you in the
Netherlands or something like that,
947
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:23,810
it's easy to sell that.
948
00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:28,050
We had to keep upping
the game a little bit, so...
949
00:48:28,890 --> 00:48:32,170
What could Stone
Cold do to up the ante?
950
00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:33,210
We had boards of stuff.
951
00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:34,770
What the hell can Steve do?
952
00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:35,630
Something crazy.
953
00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:38,290
I don't know, drive a
Zamboni to the ring.
954
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:40,980
Seriously, that's
how it happened?
955
00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:45,890
It was a Zamboni incident.
956
00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:47,826
We did, but I didn't have a lot
of experience in the hospital.
957
00:48:47,850 --> 00:48:49,950
There you see
Mr. McMahon via satellite.
958
00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:51,330
I want apple juice.
959
00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:53,050
Oh, man, that was a great one.
960
00:48:53,170 --> 00:48:54,010
So I go out there.
961
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:55,170
How about you, doctor?
962
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:56,790
Oh, I'll take it
from here, nurse.
963
00:48:57,850 --> 00:48:58,850
Go down!
964
00:48:59,210 --> 00:49:01,610
I said, man, I'm worried about
hitting you with that bed pan.
965
00:49:01,850 --> 00:49:03,610
It was almost a
stainless steel bed pan.
966
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:05,286
Man, that's something
that just, it was hard.
967
00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:06,866
He goes, oh, god
damn, Steve, you got to.
968
00:49:06,890 --> 00:49:10,710
And I'm watching Steve as he's walking
up and down the hallway, the hospital,
969
00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:14,650
and he's hitting his head
with the damn bed pan.
970
00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:16,830
I was kinda just bouncing
it with the damn bed pan.
971
00:49:16,831 --> 00:49:21,370
When you hit people with objects for
a living you become an expert at hitting
972
00:49:21,371 --> 00:49:23,610
people, you know,
with objects for a living.
973
00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:27,370
So when I swung it, boy I just reached
up and grabbed it and nailed him with it.
974
00:49:29,950 --> 00:49:32,230
It ain't ballet as the
expression goes, you know.
975
00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:36,950
I love Vince.
976
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:39,710
The guy would do
absolutely anything for me.
977
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:41,510
And I would for him too.
978
00:49:41,511 --> 00:49:44,950
Again, every now and then someone
very special would come along.
979
00:49:45,590 --> 00:49:47,510
And, um, Steve's that.
980
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:51,990
Man, there was a period there where
everything we did was a home run and a
981
00:49:51,991 --> 00:49:55,690
grand slam, and if you had a
double or triple, that was a bad day.
982
00:49:57,740 --> 00:50:02,310
At his peak, Steve was one of the
most recognizable faces in the world.
983
00:50:06,030 --> 00:50:11,490
Austin 316 shirts were now on Spencer's
Gifts and Hot Topic and Wall Street.
984
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:16,390
You go to Walmart and you go in
Foley's or Macy's and there's Austin 316.
985
00:50:16,690 --> 00:50:17,690
It was everywhere.
986
00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:19,769
And of course, you know,
he had one quarter where
987
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:21,350
he even had a million
dollar selling t-shirts.
988
00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:24,412
If you look at any sales
chart, Steve Austin's
989
00:50:24,413 --> 00:50:27,070
t-shirts are still amongst
the best sellers in WWE.
990
00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:28,470
To this day!
991
00:50:29,470 --> 00:50:32,310
Well, it first hit me when me and my
wife would love to go to Las Vegas.
992
00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:35,799
Every single person I
saw walk in the streets,
993
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,970
everybody has Steve
Austin t-shirts on.
994
00:50:38,110 --> 00:50:39,110
It was crazy.
995
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:46,250
If you turned on the TV,
all of the night shows...
996
00:50:46,770 --> 00:50:49,070
Please welcome Stone
Cold, Steve Austin!
997
00:50:49,850 --> 00:50:50,950
Man, it's good to be here.
998
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:59,580
Any show like
that, he was on it.
999
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Commercials...
1000
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,820
Can I get one more of those?
1001
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Sure.
1002
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:09,080
Wrestling just came
in like a tsunami.
1003
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Thanks, Dad.
1004
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:12,300
That helps.
1005
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:14,580
SportsCenter wasn't
embracing wrestling back then.
1006
00:51:14,581 --> 00:51:20,700
And I just remember this tidal wave
of whether you're accepting us or not,
1007
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,880
here we come.
1008
00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:23,540
He wasn't even a wrestling fan.
1009
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,960
But he was so big, he
crossed over into mainstream.
1010
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:30,360
We'd like to welcome back
Stone Cold, Steve Austin.
1011
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,040
He was bigger than wrestling.
1012
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,200
People who aren't
wrestling fans or don't care
1013
00:51:34,201 --> 00:51:36,961
about wrestling, even they
knew who Stone Cold was.
1014
00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:41,080
When you cross over like that,
that's when, you know, you've made it.
1015
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:41,680
Hey man.
1016
00:51:41,681 --> 00:51:42,480
Nice to meet you.
1017
00:51:42,481 --> 00:51:43,100
Nice to meet you too.
1018
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:44,240
Thank you very much.
1019
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:44,660
I appreciate it.
1020
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,900
When Austin 316 became so hot and
everybody had heard about it, that we
1021
00:51:49,901 --> 00:51:52,306
would be, you know,
in an airport and I'd get
1022
00:51:52,307 --> 00:51:54,720
preachers and priests and
religious people, you know.
1023
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,200
They'd say, hey man, is it
okay if I get your autograph?
1024
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,440
And I'd say, sure.
1025
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,540
I said, I thought you'd be mad at
me for inventing the Austin 316 thing.
1026
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:02,940
They'd say, oh
no, we don't care.
1027
00:52:04,780 --> 00:52:10,760
Steve's legacy is one that kind of
makes it hard for us to be WWE superstars.
1028
00:52:10,761 --> 00:52:15,620
His impact is felt in a way that none
of us can kind of compare to him.
1029
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,672
You know, we certainly try,
but there's always going to
1030
00:52:18,673 --> 00:52:21,340
be somebody somewhere
that's going to say, pretty good.
1031
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,900
Not Stone Cold though.
1032
00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:37,530
When it was at its peak during
the Attitude Era, it was Mob City.
1033
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:39,810
It's like the
Beatles just landed.
1034
00:52:39,970 --> 00:52:41,050
It was amazing.
1035
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:45,130
It sounds glamorous, but
you're choosing to be on the road.
1036
00:52:45,590 --> 00:52:45,970
A lot.
1037
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:49,590
You have to love the business
to put yourself through that.
1038
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:53,010
That's where you really
start evaluating your entire life.
1039
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,500
Man, when you're running
like I was, at my peak, it's
1040
00:53:06,501 --> 00:53:09,360
hard to do anything other
than be a pro wrestler.
1041
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:11,760
Because it consumes
everything about you.
1042
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,800
You are in go mode 24-7, 365.
1043
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,760
You are a slave to the road.
1044
00:53:18,761 --> 00:53:20,648
And you never want
to come off the road
1045
00:53:20,708 --> 00:53:22,580
because if you come
off the road, you get soft.
1046
00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:23,920
So I was never home.
1047
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,580
That's a recipe for disaster.
1048
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:30,840
It all looks fun when
you're seeing it on TV.
1049
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:33,360
But it ain't always TV.
1050
00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:37,460
TV's a very small part of the life that
you live when you're doing that job.
1051
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200
The pressure was
immense for him.
1052
00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:43,940
And part of that was, I think,
because he had so much going on.
1053
00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:46,921
As the pressures mounted
around him work-wise, he had a
1054
00:53:46,922 --> 00:53:48,740
lot of pressures at home
and a lot of pressures at work.
1055
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,440
He had a lot of
pressures with his family.
1056
00:53:50,860 --> 00:53:51,860
It was a lot.
1057
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:52,780
It was a lot.
1058
00:53:52,940 --> 00:53:54,576
You know, that's the
thing about the business.
1059
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,280
You've got all the personal
problems that everybody else does.
1060
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:00,300
I've got two daughters.
1061
00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:01,780
Stephanie Britt's the oldest.
1062
00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:03,100
Cassie Skye's the youngest.
1063
00:54:04,780 --> 00:54:05,980
And I remember I came home.
1064
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:08,260
I think when Stephanie
was born, I flew in.
1065
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,060
I was in New York City.
1066
00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:09,960
We were working in New York.
1067
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:10,580
That was the garden.
1068
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:11,700
And I flew home.
1069
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,200
I was there for her birth.
1070
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,660
And then as soon as
she was born, I held her.
1071
00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:17,940
I gave her like
her first bottle.
1072
00:54:17,941 --> 00:54:19,040
I got on an airplane.
1073
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,100
And I was in Pittsburgh
that night working.
1074
00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:27,740
The truth is even guys that were married
and had families and things like that,
1075
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,320
they were more married to
the road and the business.
1076
00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:35,760
To be successful in this industry,
you have to be willing to commit an
1077
00:54:35,761 --> 00:54:39,080
enormous amount of time
away from being home.
1078
00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:40,780
There's just no
other way to do it.
1079
00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:44,100
It's an extremely
difficult life.
1080
00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:45,300
It really is.
1081
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,920
If you have a family, so do you.
1082
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:48,220
It's so difficult.
1083
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,820
It's so difficult on everybody.
1084
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,100
I think that's probably
why there's such a
1085
00:54:53,101 --> 00:54:55,780
high rate of divorce
and things of that nature.
1086
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,360
I try to not bring
up that stuff.
1087
00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:00,660
I knew what
family life was like.
1088
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:03,240
It's unsatisfying.
1089
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,580
It's a source of consternation.
1090
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,880
It's a source of crying
children and heartbreak.
1091
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,020
It's a source of
unhappy spouses.
1092
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:13,496
It's not like you're making
a conscious decision.
1093
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,156
Hey, I'm putting everybody
else on the back burner.
1094
00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:16,720
But I decided to get a divorce.
1095
00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:19,780
You know, when you go
through a divorce, they're chaotic.
1096
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,800
So obviously, you're
very distracted.
1097
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,740
I was living in a house, but once I
decided to get a divorce, I moved
1098
00:55:25,741 --> 00:55:28,940
literally about two or three miles
down the road in a little double-wide.
1099
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,500
And although I was going through pain or
whatever goes with a divorce, when I moved
1100
00:55:35,501 --> 00:55:37,471
into that double-wide,
me and a double-wide,
1101
00:55:37,483 --> 00:55:38,980
for some reason,
there's synergy.
1102
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,620
I had two cinder blocks with a
1x12 plank where my TV was.
1103
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:46,260
I had my cooler,
you know, full of beer.
1104
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,914
It's too bad that the
marriage didn't work out,
1105
00:55:48,915 --> 00:55:51,561
but I found comfort and
solace in that double-wide.
1106
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,581
You can be in the business
and you can still live a full
1107
00:55:56,582 --> 00:56:00,240
life, but everything else
is kind of like white noise.
1108
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,780
I'm putting all my chips in my own
basket, and this is what I'm doing.
1109
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:08,420
And that was the first and
foremost priority was me.
1110
00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:13,029
Selfish I was, and I was
going to ride myself and
1111
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:16,700
everything that the
business had to get to the top.
1112
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:18,560
I was going to step up
and do the best I could.
1113
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:24,640
There's a sacrifice to greatness,
and it's a price that a lot of people are
1114
00:56:24,641 --> 00:56:27,720
not willing to pay, because
there is an intensity to it.
1115
00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:35,540
There is an obligation to your own vision
and dreams that you have to service at all
1116
00:56:35,541 --> 00:56:39,940
costs over and above everyone
else in your life, including yourself.
1117
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:45,532
Your own self-interests
take a back seat to your
1118
00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:49,541
dreams and aspirations of
what you want to achieve.
1119
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,340
He's had multiple
marriages that fell apart.
1120
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,000
He's had multiple friendships
that will never be repaired.
1121
00:56:55,500 --> 00:57:00,586
But that's the price you pay
to look back on a body of work
1122
00:57:00,587 --> 00:57:05,300
and have everyone else around
you say he changed the game.
1123
00:57:07,460 --> 00:57:09,800
Man, I am very demanding.
1124
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:11,760
I was a professional wrestler.
1125
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:13,380
It's what I lived and died for.
1126
00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:15,220
He took a lot of things.
1127
00:57:15,221 --> 00:57:15,640
He took a lot of
things personally.
1128
00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:19,042
He wanted everything to be
perfect, and he always wanted
1129
00:57:19,043 --> 00:57:21,301
to be challenged with new
information and creative.
1130
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,700
It kept your star happy.
1131
00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:27,760
Keep your talent
happy as best you can.
1132
00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:34,400
If you don't build new stars, you
can't feed the superstars at the top.
1133
00:57:34,755 --> 00:57:38,971
So when Steve became the
big star in the business, he knew
1134
00:57:38,972 --> 00:57:43,280
he needed a fresh rotation of
brand-new stars to work with.
1135
00:57:43,730 --> 00:57:48,000
Mr. McMahon couldn't be that equal because
once they got into the ring together,
1136
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:49,540
it wasn't a very good match.
1137
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,045
He needed someone that
you could honestly look at and
1138
00:57:55,046 --> 00:57:59,160
say, this guy can measure
up to Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1139
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:07,460
If you smell what
The Rock is cooking.
1140
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,589
To build an opponent for
Stone Cold, that opponent should
1141
00:58:13,590 --> 00:58:16,860
be on TV regularly and go
six months without losing.
1142
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Start planting those seeds.
1143
00:58:19,780 --> 00:58:21,184
Can you imagine
what this guy is going to
1144
00:58:21,185 --> 00:58:22,720
be like when he takes
on Stone Cold someday?
1145
00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:27,340
My first couple of years in the
business, I watched this guy, Steve Austin,
1146
00:58:27,620 --> 00:58:32,460
ascend to the top and start to
achieve this incredible popularity.
1147
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,980
And I would just quietly watch in the
shadows, study his behavior and watch how
1148
00:58:38,981 --> 00:58:42,060
he operated because that was
a position that I wanted to be in.
1149
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,720
And I think he knew that.
1150
00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:47,658
I just remember watching
him starting to gain momentum,
1151
00:58:47,659 --> 00:58:50,021
starting to establish a
relationship with the crowd.
1152
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:51,300
He's starting to get over.
1153
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,680
There's something here.
1154
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,540
I need to watch this.
1155
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,780
And I remember him saying something to the
effect of, there's something there, kid.
1156
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,160
There's something there.
1157
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,580
There was also this bond like
he was a big brother in a way.
1158
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,181
And then we knew that
we were going to converge
1159
00:59:11,182 --> 00:59:13,660
and that we were
going to work together.
1160
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,290
And as far as The Rock
is concerned, the greatest
1161
00:59:17,291 --> 00:59:21,700
book ever written is the
one titled The Rock vs.
1162
00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:22,940
Stone Cold.
1163
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,120
Steve Austin.
1164
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:27,640
They were natural together.
1165
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,200
They had great chemistry.
1166
00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:31,980
I think that Steve and
Rock liked each other.
1167
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,120
So that helped.
1168
00:59:33,340 --> 00:59:35,940
And they both rode that wave.
1169
00:59:36,340 --> 00:59:36,960
Rock!
1170
00:59:36,961 --> 00:59:37,740
Stone Cold!
1171
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,920
And WrestleMania!
1172
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:43,962
I love their relationship
with The Rock and Steve
1173
00:59:44,022 --> 00:59:46,840
because they were both
very, very competitive.
1174
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:51,060
They were always wondering how the
other was feeling, how the other was doing.
1175
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,520
They never left
each other's radar.
1176
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,620
They pushed each other.
1177
00:59:55,860 --> 00:59:57,360
They made each other better.
1178
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:02,320
In the world of pro wrestling,
you can only control so much.
1179
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,140
And after that, it
becomes the intangible.
1180
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,976
I'm right there on the camera.
1181
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,000
He can do it all!
1182
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,920
I'm out of seconds!
1183
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,120
I'm done!
1184
01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:16,920
And that intangible, what
everybody searches for, is chemistry.
1185
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:21,320
I knew exactly what he
was going to do all the time.
1186
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:25,040
He knew exactly what I
was going to do all the time.
1187
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,800
That's just kind of the
special thing that you just feel.
1188
01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:37,140
It's like watching two comets fly
through the sky and hit each other.
1189
01:00:37,141 --> 01:00:38,500
It never happens.
1190
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:40,460
We know all the metrics!
1191
01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:42,160
I think it was the apex.
1192
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:43,740
I mean, it was really the peak.
1193
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:49,260
And Steve Austin and The Rock were
the two hottest stars in the business.
1194
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,180
We were fighting for
the exact same thing.
1195
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,026
And that was the
number one top spot in the
1196
01:00:55,027 --> 01:00:58,241
company at a time where
the company was on fire.
1197
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,080
It's really rarefied air.
1198
01:01:00,180 --> 01:01:01,980
And we were fighting
for that rarefied air.
1199
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,800
But it was out of so much
love and so much respect.
1200
01:01:05,180 --> 01:01:06,760
It kind of was so fun to watch.
1201
01:01:06,761 --> 01:01:08,688
Being privileged to see
something like that where
1202
01:01:08,689 --> 01:01:10,340
you have these two big
talents coming together.
1203
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:11,540
It's a new champion!
1204
01:01:14,220 --> 01:01:15,940
Man, that was a great ride.
1205
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,120
Rock and I never
rode the roads together.
1206
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,820
He ran with a different crowd.
1207
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,740
But whenever we see each other,
it's just like the last time we left off.
1208
01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:31,800
It's a friendship
that is forever.
1209
01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:39,340
That was a guy who looked at me and
said, you, you and me, we're gonna go.
1210
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,640
And we're gonna go to the dance.
1211
01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:45,420
That decision to take me, if you
will, under his wing, it changed my life.
1212
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,380
Steve's gonna be the first one to tell you
that he's got just a core group of friends.
1213
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,180
I mean, he's not gonna just be your
best friend just to be your best friend.
1214
01:01:57,010 --> 01:01:58,340
They say it's lonely at the top.
1215
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,660
And I think Steve
was pretty lonely.
1216
01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:02,720
I ran with myself.
1217
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,000
I was a lone wolf.
1218
01:02:05,295 --> 01:02:07,500
My place was on top of
that roster, on top of that car.
1219
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,360
There's so much jealousy.
1220
01:02:09,620 --> 01:02:13,840
I really love the thing I came up with
years ago, DTA, don't trust anybody.
1221
01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:18,320
DTA, don't trust anyone,
makes for a good catchphrase.
1222
01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:21,814
I don't know if it's the best
way to go through life, but I
1223
01:02:21,815 --> 01:02:25,060
think that is how Steve went
through his life at that time.
1224
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,180
The DTA, don't trust anyone thing,
that wasn't Steve playing a character.
1225
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,040
Angry, bitter, paranoid.
1226
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,640
Like, there was a lot of that.
1227
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:33,900
Steve's a very private guy.
1228
01:02:33,901 --> 01:02:35,020
He just is.
1229
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,660
He never really talked
about his home life.
1230
01:02:38,030 --> 01:02:40,780
Every now and then, he'd tell you
something about his family, but for the
1231
01:02:40,781 --> 01:02:42,640
most part, he kept
all that stuff to himself.
1232
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,100
People have always asked
me about my daughters.
1233
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,340
In the past, I haven't
talked too much about them.
1234
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,520
And it's because of
the strained relationship
1235
01:02:51,521 --> 01:02:54,081
that it was and me
being gone all the time.
1236
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,780
I never won father of the year
because I'm purely on the road.
1237
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:03,440
If I'm gonna come home from my two
days off every now and then, I'm gonna cook
1238
01:03:03,441 --> 01:03:05,241
some flank steaks on
the grill and drink beer.
1239
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,840
That's as much
as I'm contributing.
1240
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,020
I hate to say that,
that's the way it was.
1241
01:03:10,820 --> 01:03:13,140
They knew that I loved
them, but I wasn't there.
1242
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,880
Back in 2001, my wife took the kids over
to England to visit her side of the family.
1243
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:26,361
9-11 happened, and
then that's when everybody
1244
01:03:26,373 --> 01:03:28,280
was, or at least
she was afraid to fly.
1245
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,760
They kind of stayed over there.
1246
01:03:29,820 --> 01:03:33,180
I was always gone anyway,
so what's the big deal?
1247
01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:35,740
So they stayed over there,
and they kept staying over there.
1248
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:40,000
And as time went on, well, I
called Stephanie just to talk to them,
1249
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,860
and we started talking, and
she had a proper London accent.
1250
01:03:45,180 --> 01:03:48,179
When I hung up the
phone, I started crying like a
1251
01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:51,120
baby because she used
to sound exactly like I do.
1252
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,680
For better or for worse, without the four
letter words, she had my same accent.
1253
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,400
And to hear her with an English accent,
yeah, that shook me up because I was like,
1254
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,620
okay, what did I do wrong?
1255
01:04:03,621 --> 01:04:04,741
Or could I have done better?
1256
01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:07,840
That's the bottom line,
because Stone Cold said so.
1257
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:13,480
Now that they're older, we're on the
way to building better relationships.
1258
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,980
So now they're
pursuing their own things.
1259
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,200
I support them.
1260
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,520
If I can give them
any advice, I do.
1261
01:04:20,205 --> 01:04:24,940
Through all the BS that has happened,
we're talking now, the relationships,
1262
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,620
as strained as they were, they're
better now, but it's still a building block
1263
01:04:28,621 --> 01:04:33,600
because truly, after all these
years, we still don't know each other.
1264
01:04:33,620 --> 01:04:35,080
As well as we should.
1265
01:04:35,890 --> 01:04:42,840
That was the Faustian bargain that he
cut with himself in order to myopically,
1266
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:49,140
obsessively go after the success that
he knew in his heart he could achieve.
1267
01:04:50,350 --> 01:04:54,500
You have to get it while you can and
then hope that you can make up for all the
1268
01:04:54,501 --> 01:04:57,209
other stuff that you
put on the bottom shelf
1269
01:04:57,221 --> 01:04:59,700
while you went out
and lived your dream.
1270
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,596
There's a lot of
casualties that come with
1271
01:05:01,597 --> 01:05:03,520
that and you have to
be willing to accept that.
1272
01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:05,580
Your window's really small.
1273
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,020
For most guys, it
really is a small window.
1274
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,220
He always felt like he was gonna lose
his spot in line if he was not on the road.
1275
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:17,700
I can't be home.
1276
01:05:18,195 --> 01:05:21,880
I gotta be on the road with the rest of
the guys because somebody else is gonna
1277
01:05:21,881 --> 01:05:24,540
have a great match, they're
gonna be noticed, and I'm not.
1278
01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:28,560
The drive for that, the lust for
that, he could never get away from.
1279
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,460
Any time that someone is successful,
they have a hands-on approach,
1280
01:05:33,980 --> 01:05:37,504
Steve had a very hands-on
approach when it came
1281
01:05:37,505 --> 01:05:41,101
to the presentation of
what he was going to do.
1282
01:05:41,180 --> 01:05:46,260
Steve was very demanding, but
Steve could be guilty of, this sucks.
1283
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,360
Okay, it sucks, Steve.
1284
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,296
What do you want to
do to make it better?
1285
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:50,640
I don't know.
1286
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:51,580
Goddamn, you're a writer.
1287
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:52,620
Write something.
1288
01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:56,480
Steve would get mad,
throw it away, and storm off.
1289
01:05:56,890 --> 01:06:00,440
This was at a time when The Rock
was taking a break in Hollywood.
1290
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,720
And Stone Cold Steve
Austin needed a new equal.
1291
01:06:04,420 --> 01:06:07,148
Steve would have been very
easy to maintain and manage
1292
01:06:07,149 --> 01:06:09,580
if we'd always had a good
opponent ready for him.
1293
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:10,500
And why wouldn't you?
1294
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,200
I think that's what led to
a lot of Steve's frustration.
1295
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,080
Complaining about his opponents, you
know, complaining who he's working with.
1296
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:20,300
He wasn't getting
red hot billets.
1297
01:06:20,340 --> 01:06:23,260
Nobody's ready, and
nobody's been groomed for me.
1298
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,300
The process had failed him.
1299
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,308
When the creative stuff
started going south a little bit, it
1300
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:32,940
had a more profound effect on
him than it would a lot of guys.
1301
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,820
Because he felt like this
foundation was starting to crack.
1302
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:38,500
I was like, dude,
what is going on here?
1303
01:06:38,980 --> 01:06:42,420
When you've been trying so hard so long
to be that guy and you get that chance,
1304
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,720
you ain't letting it go.
1305
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,100
I found out what creative had in
mind for Steve and Brock Lesnar.
1306
01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:49,600
And I confirmed it with Vince.
1307
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:52,820
Oh, you're going to work with
Brock tonight and you're going to lose.
1308
01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:55,033
And it certainly was
very premature to try to
1309
01:06:55,034 --> 01:06:58,001
have Steve and Brock
wrestle with no buildup.
1310
01:06:58,275 --> 01:07:01,260
This is a match that can
sell out indoor stadiums.
1311
01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:03,200
But there's no story there.
1312
01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:04,900
It was thrown together.
1313
01:07:05,860 --> 01:07:07,380
And it meant nothing.
1314
01:07:07,875 --> 01:07:10,115
Jim Ross calls me with the
creative for Monday Night Raw.
1315
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,060
Tells me, long story short, that
I'm doing a job for Brock Lesnar.
1316
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,360
I said, oh really?
1317
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:17,540
I said, well, if that's going to be
the case, I ain't going to be there.
1318
01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:19,080
So sure enough, I woke up.
1319
01:07:19,180 --> 01:07:20,740
I had two Bloody Marys.
1320
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,960
Got on an airplane and I
was flying back to San Antonio.
1321
01:07:24,260 --> 01:07:25,260
And I was mad.
1322
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,760
It ain't about
winning or losing.
1323
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:28,340
I'll let anybody beat me.
1324
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,340
As long as it's for a
reason, it means something.
1325
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,060
And there's money behind it.
1326
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,020
And so I said, I ain't doing it.
1327
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,740
And I went home.
1328
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:36,460
It was over.
1329
01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:37,340
I was done.
1330
01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:41,240
And it cost me a lot of respect
from my peers, a lot of money.
1331
01:07:41,380 --> 01:07:42,380
And that's what I did.
1332
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:44,680
And as they said it, I took
my ball and went home.
1333
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:50,300
It felt like you kicked
everybody in their co-unions.
1334
01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:50,740
You know?
1335
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,700
It felt like all of a
sudden, wait a minute.
1336
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:54,670
What is wrong with him?
1337
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:55,820
How is he thinking this way?
1338
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:59,000
To his credit, Vince
called me three times.
1339
01:07:59,001 --> 01:08:00,840
He left me a voice
message each time.
1340
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,000
I never called him back.
1341
01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:03,796
I didn't want to talk
to him on the phone.
1342
01:08:03,820 --> 01:08:04,820
I was still hot.
1343
01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:10,640
And for about six months, I was hunting,
fishing and drinking and not necessarily
1344
01:08:10,641 --> 01:08:13,200
in that order and making
a lot of bad decisions.
1345
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,580
You know, just
time was going by.
1346
01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:21,720
Finally, I'm going
through my mail.
1347
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,160
There's a card from Jim Ross.
1348
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:26,060
I didn't expect a
card from Jim Ross.
1349
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,160
Hey, man.
1350
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,540
Just checking on you.
1351
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,160
I want to see if you're okay.
1352
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:32,460
If you ever want to
talk, give me a call.
1353
01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:36,920
And I felt right then that that was
my friend throwing me a lifeline.
1354
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,400
I called him up.
1355
01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:40,636
It was back when they had
those old Motorola flip phones.
1356
01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:42,460
I burned through two
batteries talking to Jim.
1357
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,660
We did speak for hours.
1358
01:08:44,740 --> 01:08:49,100
Life, football, you know,
booking, marriage, relationships.
1359
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:50,940
Boy, he really needed to talk.
1360
01:08:51,780 --> 01:08:54,376
He goes, hey, man, do you think if I ever
put you in the old man or the building,
1361
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,000
you can hash this out and put it
behind you and come back to work?
1362
01:08:57,780 --> 01:08:58,980
I said, I'd love that.
1363
01:08:58,981 --> 01:09:02,640
He facilitated the meeting
between myself and Vince.
1364
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,360
And I'm thinking, man,
we're gonna fight or hug.
1365
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,180
We started talking.
1366
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:11,960
We hashed it out.
1367
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:13,340
I told him what I was thinking.
1368
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,700
And we got back
on the same track.
1369
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,940
And then shortly
thereafter, I returned to work.
1370
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,620
It's good to see you.
1371
01:09:20,660 --> 01:09:21,660
Very good.
1372
01:09:24,020 --> 01:09:27,000
When I did come back,
I knew what I'd done.
1373
01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:31,040
So I remember going up to
basically the whole locker room.
1374
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,040
Yeah, I apologized
to a lot of guys.
1375
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,120
And it was warranted.
1376
01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:42,980
Well, Stone Cold
Steve Austin is back.
1377
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,147
I can guarantee you that
I am gonna raise more
1378
01:09:46,148 --> 01:09:49,760
hell in this ring than
I've ever raised in my life.
1379
01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:59,620
I came back for a few months,
but, man, it's a hard-ass job.
1380
01:10:01,180 --> 01:10:03,874
I was backstage with
Bruce Prichard one time,
1381
01:10:03,875 --> 01:10:06,901
and I just kept having
this nerve jump in my leg.
1382
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,260
And it was just like everything in
my nervous system was so shot.
1383
01:10:10,665 --> 01:10:13,288
You know, the atrophy in my
hands and other things that I
1384
01:10:13,328 --> 01:10:16,820
was going through was, like,
finally starting to unwind me.
1385
01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:19,420
It's like, dude, when is your
body gonna give you enough
1386
01:10:19,421 --> 01:10:21,481
signals that you need to
get your ass out of here?
1387
01:10:21,790 --> 01:10:28,240
The feeling was basically that he had
pushed the limits as far as he could and
1388
01:10:28,241 --> 01:10:30,761
that it was time to... he didn't
want to push him anymore.
1389
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,280
And I think Steve just
saw the writing on the wall.
1390
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,032
I can't imagine how
agonizing it was for Steve
1391
01:10:38,033 --> 01:10:42,221
to make the decision
that his career was over.
1392
01:10:43,090 --> 01:10:47,040
He had to resign himself to the fact
this is as far as the character goes.
1393
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,556
Now, the question
then would become, who
1394
01:10:50,557 --> 01:10:52,460
will he wrestle and
what will be the outcome?
1395
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,740
Steve, being an old-school guy,
wanted to go out the right way.
1396
01:10:57,260 --> 01:10:58,540
He wanted to be Rock.
1397
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:00,560
He owed it to Rock.
1398
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:03,800
But he didn't want to
distract from the Rock
1399
01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:06,761
getting a win by him
saying this is his last match.
1400
01:11:06,980 --> 01:11:08,820
So we kept that confidential.
1401
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,540
It was a professional
thing to do.
1402
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,460
And it shows great love
and respect for Dwayne.
1403
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,356
It's bigger than wrestling.
1404
01:11:17,380 --> 01:11:17,980
I just like The Rock.
1405
01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:20,480
And so I didn't tell
hardly anybody at all.
1406
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,400
Obviously, Vince
knew, Jim Ross knew.
1407
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,460
And I told The Rock.
1408
01:11:25,420 --> 01:11:28,529
When I found out that
his last match was going
1409
01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:31,981
to be with me, I had
really mixed emotions.
1410
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:38,780
You know, we hugged, and it makes
me a little emotional now because it is the
1411
01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:45,046
ending of a career that
has been so influential on
1412
01:11:45,047 --> 01:11:49,240
not only me, but the world
of wrestling that we love.
1413
01:11:49,460 --> 01:11:50,600
It hurt to walk away.
1414
01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:52,660
It was a real tough
decision to make.
1415
01:11:53,020 --> 01:11:55,540
But I just figured it was
the best decision for me.
1416
01:11:58,870 --> 01:12:04,511
I think the days leading into it, to
WrestleMania 19, were miserable for him.
1417
01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:06,770
How am I going to do?
1418
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:07,990
How am I going to deliver?
1419
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:09,630
What are the
people going to say?
1420
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:10,950
How do I look?
1421
01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:13,730
The day before
WrestleMania, I was at the gym.
1422
01:12:14,730 --> 01:12:17,730
This was at a time where I was drinking
about three bottles of wine a night,
1423
01:12:18,090 --> 01:12:20,255
two pots of coffee in
the morning to get up,
1424
01:12:20,256 --> 01:12:23,291
and a bunch of energy
drinks to get you going.
1425
01:12:23,770 --> 01:12:24,490
Really dehydrated.
1426
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,610
Man, my feet kept jumping,
just nervous reactions.
1427
01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:29,310
I was like, man,
what is going on?
1428
01:12:30,190 --> 01:12:32,790
And I was staying at the Grand
Hyatt Hotel there in Seattle.
1429
01:12:34,235 --> 01:12:36,210
And I went up to the
floor that I was on.
1430
01:12:36,270 --> 01:12:40,270
As soon as I got out of the elevator,
man, my heart started beating out of my
1431
01:12:40,271 --> 01:12:43,810
chest so hard and fast,
it scared the out of me.
1432
01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:46,246
And I was thinking,
man, I'm dying.
1433
01:12:46,270 --> 01:12:47,450
I just got my number called.
1434
01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:48,530
I'm gone.
1435
01:12:48,850 --> 01:12:52,190
And there was a WWE employee named
Liz DeFabio coming down the hallway.
1436
01:12:52,750 --> 01:12:54,954
And I looked at her, and
she could see that I was
1437
01:12:55,054 --> 01:12:56,910
as serious as a heart
attack, no pun intended.
1438
01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:58,530
And I said, Liz, I'm in trouble.
1439
01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:04,430
They take me down to the emergency
room, and they put all these tests on me.
1440
01:13:04,590 --> 01:13:06,550
They thought I had a
pulmonary embolism.
1441
01:13:06,610 --> 01:13:07,990
They thought a bunch of things.
1442
01:13:08,170 --> 01:13:13,450
And the thing was that I was just
basically dehydrated, drinking too much
1443
01:13:13,451 --> 01:13:18,650
alcohol and way too much caffeine,
and finally, you know, it was time to stop.
1444
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:20,230
So Vince and I were there.
1445
01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:21,450
He put too much on himself.
1446
01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:22,570
He worried too much.
1447
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:24,130
He overthought the situation.
1448
01:13:26,690 --> 01:13:28,270
So I woke up the next morning.
1449
01:13:28,271 --> 01:13:29,910
The doctor didn't
want to discharge me.
1450
01:13:29,970 --> 01:13:31,246
He wouldn't clear me to wrestle.
1451
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:33,790
But I was going to wrestle, and
I was going to wrestle The Rock.
1452
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:36,530
Getting to the building...
1453
01:13:36,531 --> 01:13:40,030
I was walking around, seeing
everybody going through the motion.
1454
01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:41,230
Hey, Mark.
1455
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:42,010
Hey, Steve.
1456
01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:43,270
How you doing?
1457
01:13:44,770 --> 01:13:48,650
If I talked to anybody or hardly said
anything, I was about to start crying.
1458
01:13:51,130 --> 01:13:55,794
When you're making the decision
to walk away from your number-one
1459
01:13:55,795 --> 01:14:00,590
passion that you live for, oh,
man, I'll make this go away.
1460
01:14:01,490 --> 01:14:03,390
So I was like this all day long.
1461
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:07,646
And then, of course, you
know, we get ready for the match.
1462
01:14:07,670 --> 01:14:10,006
It's like, okay, man, I'm just
going to turn it on, rip it up.
1463
01:14:10,030 --> 01:14:11,350
You know, if your
heart explodes.
1464
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,590
If I died in the ring, hey, man,
what better place to go than in Mania,
1465
01:14:15,865 --> 01:14:17,505
in the middle of the
ring, with The Rock?
1466
01:14:17,950 --> 01:14:21,690
So, you know, you can't
plan a better death than that.
1467
01:14:24,970 --> 01:14:26,770
The Rock said he
was going to confront...
1468
01:14:27,710 --> 01:14:29,270
Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1469
01:14:33,070 --> 01:14:34,430
I take it all in.
1470
01:14:34,710 --> 01:14:36,050
I feel everything.
1471
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:38,550
And I sense everything.
1472
01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:43,370
The smell, the feel, the
love, the tone of that building.
1473
01:14:48,510 --> 01:14:51,572
It ain't about nothing but
a wrestling match between
1474
01:14:51,573 --> 01:14:53,931
two of the greatest that
have ever been in the ring.
1475
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:56,030
Oh, hell!
1476
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:57,050
That's a two-slide!
1477
01:14:57,090 --> 01:14:57,730
Oh, my God!
1478
01:14:58,110 --> 01:14:59,550
And The Rock, is
he going to do it?
1479
01:14:59,670 --> 01:15:00,670
Big one!
1480
01:15:00,710 --> 01:15:01,310
Oh, God!
1481
01:15:01,410 --> 01:15:02,410
Rock got him!
1482
01:15:02,530 --> 01:15:04,350
I burned Rock got him!
1483
01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:05,750
I hooked up a leg!
1484
01:15:06,130 --> 01:15:07,450
And I hit the line!
1485
01:15:10,030 --> 01:15:13,590
When that three-count
hit, it was like...
1486
01:15:15,670 --> 01:15:17,390
I was just laying there.
1487
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:21,270
It was like someone lifted 1,000
pounds of bricks off my back.
1488
01:15:23,380 --> 01:15:25,020
Damn near 70,000
people in that building.
1489
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,920
A couple men watching
on pay-per-view.
1490
01:15:27,550 --> 01:15:29,350
We were both laying
in the middle of the ring.
1491
01:15:31,410 --> 01:15:33,050
And I sat up.
1492
01:15:33,890 --> 01:15:37,170
And I remember I pushed
the referee, Earl Hebner, away.
1493
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:39,890
He knew that I was going.
1494
01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:42,750
He knew that I
didn't want to go.
1495
01:15:43,370 --> 01:15:45,090
And this was a hard
decision for me to make.
1496
01:15:45,650 --> 01:15:50,840
I lowered my head down
to Steve's ear and I said, I
1497
01:15:50,841 --> 01:15:54,330
can't thank you enough for
everything that you have done.
1498
01:15:56,230 --> 01:15:57,350
And then I said, I love you.
1499
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,210
I remember just laying
there in front of 70,000 men.
1500
01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:02,470
I said, man, I love you too.
1501
01:16:06,270 --> 01:16:07,690
I told him I loved him.
1502
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:10,270
Verbatim, I said,
I love you too.
1503
01:16:10,485 --> 01:16:14,184
Two big-ass, tough-ass
guys telling each other that
1504
01:16:14,185 --> 01:16:16,971
they loved the other one
in front of millions of people.
1505
01:16:17,410 --> 01:16:19,810
I felt like that was
the time to tell.
1506
01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:28,010
Because there is no other moment in our
world where we are as raw and open and
1507
01:16:28,011 --> 01:16:30,530
vulnerable than in
that moment right there.
1508
01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:34,710
When the one, two,
three happens, it's just two
1509
01:16:34,711 --> 01:16:37,171
men who have gone
on this incredible journey.
1510
01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:39,770
You know, I have goosebumps
now thinking about it.
1511
01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:43,050
That was the moment
to say, man, I love you.
1512
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:44,410
And I can't thank you enough.
1513
01:16:48,490 --> 01:16:53,510
What makes Steve's career different
than most others is just how hot he got,
1514
01:16:53,730 --> 01:16:59,070
how fast he got hot, and how
short of a time he had to enjoy it.
1515
01:16:59,610 --> 01:17:04,250
I was seeing the end as something
that will never be replicated.
1516
01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:11,651
Seeing the end of a moment in a pop culture
genre that will never be reproduced.
1517
01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:13,670
Now I can go enjoy.
1518
01:17:14,410 --> 01:17:16,410
That's the kind of life
that I have in front of me.
1519
01:17:19,330 --> 01:17:21,970
You know, retirement always
sounds good, and then there I was.
1520
01:17:22,090 --> 01:17:23,050
I was doing nothing.
1521
01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:24,070
I was going crazy.
1522
01:17:27,390 --> 01:17:29,570
Straight up, man, I hit
the bottle pretty hard.
1523
01:17:33,710 --> 01:17:39,610
I do know that he was a bit lost after,
you know, having to leave the business,
1524
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:43,450
trying to redefine himself and
see what is life after wrestling.
1525
01:17:45,470 --> 01:17:49,751
He had three years that he
talked about how he was just
1526
01:17:49,752 --> 01:17:52,550
drinking and eating and
just a little bit depressed.
1527
01:17:56,090 --> 01:17:57,370
I'll tell you this true story.
1528
01:17:57,950 --> 01:18:00,246
Woke up one morning, I was
looking right at myself in the mirror.
1529
01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:06,531
I said, dude, the things that you are doing
are not conducive to living a long life.
1530
01:18:06,610 --> 01:18:08,410
You better straighten
your ass up.
1531
01:18:08,990 --> 01:18:12,876
It took me three years
of being a up to come
1532
01:18:12,877 --> 01:18:15,490
to my senses to say,
you know, you know what?
1533
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:17,150
You had to quit the business.
1534
01:18:17,630 --> 01:18:19,130
You ain't doing nothing now.
1535
01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:21,390
You better get
your ass out to L.A.
1536
01:18:21,410 --> 01:18:24,301
and try to capitalize on at
least, you know, some part
1537
01:18:24,302 --> 01:18:27,010
of the name that you spent
so long trying to build up.
1538
01:18:28,090 --> 01:18:29,590
Look at me, you piece of trash.
1539
01:18:30,750 --> 01:18:33,146
I heard you been running around
saying you could take me in a fight.
1540
01:18:33,170 --> 01:18:34,170
I wouldn't say that.
1541
01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:36,310
Let's get busy, Hollywood.
1542
01:18:37,690 --> 01:18:40,750
And initially, I came out to
California to get into acting.
1543
01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:43,670
I quickly realized that I
didn't really want to do that.
1544
01:18:43,671 --> 01:18:46,602
And when I found hosting
and reality television-type
1545
01:18:46,603 --> 01:18:48,971
stuff, that's when I knew
I'd kind of found my niche.
1546
01:18:49,570 --> 01:18:51,110
I'm Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1547
01:18:51,370 --> 01:18:52,390
Jerry the King Lawler.
1548
01:18:52,510 --> 01:18:54,350
My next guest on
Brumpet Skull Sessions.
1549
01:18:54,490 --> 01:18:55,230
Check it out.
1550
01:18:55,310 --> 01:18:57,870
And that's the bottom
line, because I said so.
1551
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,775
And so I started
podcasting, and the reason
1552
01:19:02,776 --> 01:19:05,521
I started was just
keeping touch with people.
1553
01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:08,068
I guess it was just
all built on the history
1554
01:19:08,069 --> 01:19:10,761
of what I put forth
inside the squared circle.
1555
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,040
He's got podcasts that he does.
1556
01:19:14,041 --> 01:19:15,680
He's got TV shows he hosts.
1557
01:19:15,780 --> 01:19:19,080
I would say the biggest difference between
the Stone Cold we see now and the Stone
1558
01:19:19,081 --> 01:19:21,600
Cold we saw back then, he
doesn't have the pressure.
1559
01:19:24,260 --> 01:19:25,320
I'm a civilian now.
1560
01:19:25,740 --> 01:19:28,780
It took me a while to turn into
a civilian, but I'm a civilian now.
1561
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,840
My problem is, man,
I'm type-A personality.
1562
01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:33,480
So I'm always in a hurry.
1563
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,520
I'm in a hurry when I
don't have anything to do.
1564
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,080
This is Brownie.
1565
01:19:37,140 --> 01:19:39,460
Our chocolate lab we
rescued about three weeks ago.
1566
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,120
These are my Kawasaki KRX 1000s.
1567
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:43,740
This is my Corvette.
1568
01:19:43,741 --> 01:19:44,741
This is a KLX 450.
1569
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,060
This truck right here
is a 1966 Chevy C2.
1570
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:51,260
I'm not a wrestler anymore.
1571
01:19:51,460 --> 01:19:52,680
I had a good time doing it.
1572
01:19:52,980 --> 01:19:55,300
But at the end of the
day, now it's about life.
1573
01:20:06,530 --> 01:20:10,390
You step through the curtain,
you're in front of the paying customer.
1574
01:20:11,190 --> 01:20:15,470
And that's where you gotta be the person
they perceive you to be on television.
1575
01:20:16,530 --> 01:20:17,530
You're
1576
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,631
that person from the first
step through the curtain
1577
01:20:36,632 --> 01:20:39,341
until the last step back
through the curtain.
1578
01:20:40,180 --> 01:20:41,740
You're a performer out there.
1579
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:46,490
Talk about your songs.
1580
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:48,350
Talk about John 316.
1581
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:52,430
Austin 316 says, I
just whipped your ass.
1582
01:20:55,330 --> 01:20:56,410
Austin did it!
1583
01:20:56,530 --> 01:20:57,530
Austin did it!
1584
01:20:58,030 --> 01:21:02,190
Nobody tells Stone Cold
Steve Austin what to do.
1585
01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:04,670
And that's the bottom line.
1586
01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:08,190
Because Stone Cold says so.
1587
01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:14,150
When you come back
through the curtain, you're out.
1588
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:18,940
And those human beings are
worried at that moment when
1589
01:21:18,941 --> 01:21:21,590
they've stepped back through
the curtain, was I good?
1590
01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:23,330
Did they like me?
1591
01:21:24,210 --> 01:21:25,470
Did I do all I could do?
1592
01:21:25,670 --> 01:21:27,410
Did I maximize my minutes?
1593
01:21:29,330 --> 01:21:32,030
Coming back through, it's
where the rubber meets the road.
1594
01:21:34,330 --> 01:21:35,730
That curtain is a big thing.
1595
01:21:36,090 --> 01:21:39,890
And how you navigate the curtain and
how you react on both sides of it largely
1596
01:21:39,891 --> 01:21:42,790
spells your success in
the pro wrestling business.
1597
01:21:44,710 --> 01:21:47,617
Look, I got placed in a
real good situation and I got
1598
01:21:47,618 --> 01:21:50,690
a chance to have a lot of
fun doing something I love.
1599
01:21:51,470 --> 01:21:54,550
But, like, I still feel like I'm sitting
here in this damn chair and I'm still
1600
01:21:54,750 --> 01:21:56,050
Steve, the dude from Edna.
1601
01:21:57,610 --> 01:22:00,530
In my mind and in
my eyes, that's me.
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