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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,753 --> 00:00:07,900 Who is Steve Austin the man and who is Stone Cold Steve Austin the performer? 2 00:00:10,150 --> 00:00:12,680 The difference between Stone Cold Steve Austin the man and Stone Cold Steve Austin 3 00:00:12,681 --> 00:00:16,480 the performer is basically Stone Cold Steve Austin is exactly that. 4 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:20,940 I don't even know what the difference is really. 5 00:00:35,340 --> 00:00:39,998 Steve Austin is one of the biggest superstars in the history 6 00:00:39,999 --> 00:00:44,380 of the wrestling business because of his passion for it. 7 00:00:53,340 --> 00:01:01,340 He had this meteoric rise that burnt hot and fast and changed an entire industry. 8 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Talk about your Psalms, talk about John 316. 9 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass. 10 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:16,550 The separation between Stone Cold and Steve Austin 11 00:01:16,551 --> 00:01:19,601 is only a matter of the surrounding that I'm in. 12 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,080 The character was a real person. 13 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,260 The look in his eyes told a real story. 14 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,600 And you know why? 15 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,660 Because it was a real story. 16 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,500 He went from being a guy from Texas to a pro wrestler to a pop culture icon. 17 00:01:37,060 --> 00:01:39,560 He was the defining character of a generation. 18 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,800 The disrupter of the status quo. 19 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,220 The pivotal player in the complete reimagination of the industry. 20 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,980 I've been retired for so long, I don't miss it anymore. 21 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:55,700 I don't crave it. 22 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,300 You can never replace it. 23 00:01:57,380 --> 00:01:58,680 I'm trying to say that you can. 24 00:01:58,681 --> 00:02:04,800 But I wouldn't say there's anything about the life I used to live on the road that 25 00:02:04,801 --> 00:02:07,500 makes me yearn to go back in time and relive those days. 26 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,780 But I do what I want, when I want, right here in this damn ring. 27 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:13,560 And can't nobody stop me. 28 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,700 The whole world knows my name is Stone Cold Steve Austin. 29 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,020 If I'm going straight to hell, you're damn sure coming with me. 30 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:26,400 Stone Cold Steve Austin. 31 00:02:26,401 --> 00:02:29,920 His reign on top was second to none. 32 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:32,940 Steve Austin changed the way the game was played. 33 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,680 There will never ever be anyone like him. 34 00:02:36,260 --> 00:02:42,820 He's the man responsible for making WWE more than we thought it could ever be. 35 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,220 People gravitated a lot to the energy that I brought to the business. 36 00:02:58,020 --> 00:03:02,000 Steve didn't have a long career being on top, but he had that one little peak. 37 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:05,300 It was like, well, no one will come close to that. 38 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,660 Stone Cold is the showbiz guy. 39 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:09,480 Steve Austin is the regular guy. 40 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,660 They just happen to be rolled up in the same package. 41 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:31,270 I was born in Austin, Texas, but we didn't stay there long. 42 00:03:31,271 --> 00:03:32,950 I grew up in a little town called Edna. 43 00:03:35,150 --> 00:03:36,450 I'm proud to be from Texas. 44 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:38,430 You know, born, bred, raised. 45 00:03:40,570 --> 00:03:41,710 You know, it's tough. 46 00:03:41,870 --> 00:03:44,770 It's cowboy country and it's rugged. 47 00:03:45,450 --> 00:03:48,228 I think the reputation of Texas kind of precedes 48 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:50,430 you and the fact that you're from that state. 49 00:03:50,870 --> 00:03:55,110 You know, it's not a one stop light town, but we just have a few stop lights. 50 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:57,170 And it's a town where everybody knows everybody. 51 00:03:57,490 --> 00:03:59,370 We had a huge house, our yellow house. 52 00:03:59,510 --> 00:04:00,770 It was on half of an acre. 53 00:04:02,610 --> 00:04:04,710 It was great growing up in a big family. 54 00:04:06,810 --> 00:04:10,630 Scott's the oldest, then Steve, then Kevin, Jeff, and then me. 55 00:04:12,730 --> 00:04:14,930 As a kid, Steve was very shy. 56 00:04:15,650 --> 00:04:16,050 Yeah. 57 00:04:16,450 --> 00:04:17,550 Yeah, he was shy. 58 00:04:18,085 --> 00:04:21,530 I was just shy enough that when we called down to Dairy Queen to order, you know, 59 00:04:21,531 --> 00:04:24,129 three tacos or whatever, you know, hell, I put my sister 60 00:04:24,209 --> 00:04:26,330 on the phone, Jenny, could you order my food for me? 61 00:04:26,930 --> 00:04:30,270 So he's seven years old with me, and he would literally call me into the 62 00:04:30,271 --> 00:04:33,330 kitchen, and he'd hand me the phone to Dairy Queen and have me read off his order. 63 00:04:34,130 --> 00:04:38,110 I broke out of shyness when I found football in junior high. 64 00:04:39,150 --> 00:04:42,590 I used athletics to help me find confidence. 65 00:04:42,910 --> 00:04:44,750 I noticed him when he was in junior high. 66 00:04:45,070 --> 00:04:46,590 I was a high school coach. 67 00:04:46,810 --> 00:04:49,430 He was a physical specimen, I guess you'd say. 68 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:55,210 When he started seventh grade football, as long as I can remember, that's all he 69 00:04:55,211 --> 00:04:59,150 wanted to do was work out, eat right, and just build his body. 70 00:04:59,970 --> 00:05:03,150 We're eating Little Debbie's and Captain Crunch cereal. 71 00:05:03,330 --> 00:05:04,917 And he's over there with the blender with 72 00:05:04,918 --> 00:05:06,710 his protein stuff and putting raw eggs in it. 73 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:07,570 And I'm thinking, what? 74 00:05:07,690 --> 00:05:08,890 Who does this, you know? 75 00:05:08,970 --> 00:05:09,970 He does. 76 00:05:11,190 --> 00:05:13,670 I was a running back, and I wasn't very fast. 77 00:05:13,930 --> 00:05:18,590 I weighed about 205 pounds, and my line averaged about 165 pounds. 78 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:20,350 So I didn't have a whole lot of blocking. 79 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,547 And I ran north and south because I wasn't fast 80 00:05:22,567 --> 00:05:24,770 enough to run east and west, and I ran over people. 81 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:28,770 Straight A student, National Honor Society. 82 00:05:29,230 --> 00:05:32,370 Steve never drank beer or raised hell during high school like I did. 83 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:35,810 So every weekend, all my buddies would come over. 84 00:05:35,870 --> 00:05:39,270 We're sitting on the back patio drinking beer, raising hell, having a good time. 85 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:41,370 And Steve would open up his bedroom window. 86 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:42,790 Y'all shut the hell up. 87 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:43,870 I'm trying to sleep. 88 00:05:46,350 --> 00:05:50,310 He was popular, but he just had such bigger dreams and goals for himself. 89 00:05:51,290 --> 00:05:53,810 He used to actually practice signing autographs back in the day. 90 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:55,170 We'd be in the kitchen. 91 00:05:55,290 --> 00:05:58,530 He'd be writing his name different ways, trying to check out which would fit best. 92 00:05:59,150 --> 00:05:59,810 He'd ask my opinion. 93 00:05:59,970 --> 00:06:01,790 What the... what are you talking about, man? 94 00:06:01,950 --> 00:06:03,790 At first, you know, I wanted to be a rock star. 95 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:07,030 But I can't sing, play any musical instruments, so that's out the door. 96 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:09,850 Channel 39 presents Houston Wrestling. 97 00:06:10,290 --> 00:06:13,810 One day, my mom was in her chair reading a Redbook magazine. 98 00:06:14,350 --> 00:06:17,410 And I was flipping channels, and I came across Pro Wrestling. 99 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:18,570 It was Houston Wrestling. 100 00:06:18,730 --> 00:06:21,459 For some reason, the lighting, the smoke-filled 101 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:24,070 arena, the rope banister around the ring... 102 00:06:24,071 --> 00:06:26,240 One of the guys was just bleeding like a stuck 103 00:06:26,241 --> 00:06:28,470 pig in a ring, and it just resonated with me. 104 00:06:28,471 --> 00:06:29,510 I was like, holy cow. 105 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:32,050 I fell in love with it that day. 106 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:34,330 Growing up, we only got three channels here. 107 00:06:34,570 --> 00:06:36,410 And Houston Wrestling was on every Sunday. 108 00:06:36,630 --> 00:06:38,470 And Steve always watched it. 109 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:41,085 If I wanted to watch anything else, he said, man, 110 00:06:41,086 --> 00:06:42,970 you can have the TV after wrestling's over with. 111 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:46,597 And apparently, yeah, he told, I guess, friends and my 112 00:06:46,598 --> 00:06:48,911 brothers that he was going to be a wrestler one day. 113 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:50,490 He said those words. 114 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:52,810 Well, I'll be talking. 115 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,290 You know, coming from a small town, you don't really get noticed. 116 00:06:59,220 --> 00:07:00,910 You have to put in a whole lot of work. 117 00:07:01,130 --> 00:07:02,930 And you got to kind of get yourself out there. 118 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:04,270 And he was able to do it. 119 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:08,710 Coming out of high school, I went to Wharton County Junior College. 120 00:07:08,890 --> 00:07:12,350 And they offered me a full ride to North Texas State University. 121 00:07:15,810 --> 00:07:18,250 And football at that level was more serious. 122 00:07:19,290 --> 00:07:20,870 This is the young man we talked about. 123 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:22,210 That was real good play. 124 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:22,890 Yes. 125 00:07:23,290 --> 00:07:24,690 Real good play by Steve. 126 00:07:24,910 --> 00:07:25,750 He played very well. 127 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:26,890 Gotten better every game. 128 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:28,450 I really didn't care. 129 00:07:28,451 --> 00:07:30,530 I didn't enjoy the process anymore. 130 00:07:31,050 --> 00:07:33,611 As far as the education process goes, I had had 131 00:07:33,612 --> 00:07:35,830 an absolute gutful of doing research papers. 132 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:38,930 Algebra 2 and calculus were kicking my ass. 133 00:07:39,010 --> 00:07:40,330 It just wasn't my cup of tea. 134 00:07:40,670 --> 00:07:42,750 I was through with college and I wanted to drop out. 135 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:43,830 So I did. 136 00:07:44,910 --> 00:07:46,959 But we had a connection from the athletic 137 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,470 department at North Texas to Watkins Motor Lines. 138 00:07:49,590 --> 00:07:52,270 With 17 hours to go, I just said, man, I'm out of here. 139 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:55,570 Let me go work on a freight dock and make that $400 a week. 140 00:07:55,770 --> 00:07:57,150 I love driving a forklift. 141 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:58,010 I could pull your tooth. 142 00:07:58,011 --> 00:07:59,611 I could pull your tooth with a forklift. 143 00:07:59,790 --> 00:08:03,210 But Watkins Motor Lines, we were 30 miles from the sport tournament in Dallas. 144 00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:06,890 So me and my buddies would ride down there. 145 00:08:07,130 --> 00:08:09,930 We'd drink beer and throw stuff at the wrestlers and raise hell. 146 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:15,510 Man, the sport tournament was the greatest building in the world. 147 00:08:15,570 --> 00:08:17,190 The atmosphere personified. 148 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:20,990 And I'll never forget, man, we were out there and me and my buddy Rob, 149 00:08:21,210 --> 00:08:22,550 he's giving me the elbow. 150 00:08:22,810 --> 00:08:24,066 He goes, man, you're as big as him. 151 00:08:24,090 --> 00:08:25,266 He goes, you gotta get in this. 152 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:26,450 Man, you ought to be a wrestler. 153 00:08:26,451 --> 00:08:27,530 I said, I'm going to do it. 154 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:27,970 I'm going to do it. 155 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:28,350 I'm going to do it. 156 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:30,210 And so I'd wanted to for a long time. 157 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:33,110 And I'd be damned if I didn't go home a couple days later. 158 00:08:33,270 --> 00:08:34,170 And I was changing channels. 159 00:08:34,290 --> 00:08:37,850 And there was that commercial that Chris Adams put on for his wrestling academy. 160 00:08:38,170 --> 00:08:39,390 And I said, that's it. 161 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:41,290 That's my way in. 162 00:08:42,030 --> 00:08:42,770 Hello, everybody. 163 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:45,535 This is Gentleman Chris Adams here bringing you 164 00:08:45,536 --> 00:08:49,190 exciting news about our May 3-day pro wrestling camp. 165 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:53,276 You'll spend three full days working out in the same ring that 166 00:08:53,277 --> 00:08:56,430 you see on your TV here at the world-famous sport at home. 167 00:08:57,010 --> 00:08:57,490 We'll be right back. 168 00:08:57,491 --> 00:09:01,730 The one thing that surprised me when I showed up that first day, I just thought 169 00:09:01,731 --> 00:09:05,810 there was going to be a bunch of monsters in there that looked like me, the killers 170 00:09:05,811 --> 00:09:07,766 that wanted to get in the business of pro wrestling. 171 00:09:07,790 --> 00:09:09,710 But they were just regular people off the street. 172 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:13,590 I don't know if I met Steve as much as I saw Steve. 173 00:09:14,415 --> 00:09:16,310 I was injured during a match. 174 00:09:16,510 --> 00:09:19,101 So I went up in what's known as the crow's nest, 175 00:09:19,102 --> 00:09:21,350 where family and friends could watch the matches. 176 00:09:21,610 --> 00:09:26,410 And that happened to be the first lesson that Gentleman Chris Adams taught me. 177 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:28,330 He was giving for his new wrestling school. 178 00:09:28,850 --> 00:09:34,330 And me and a couple of guys were laughing about how bad all of the trainees were. 179 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:37,755 All of them except this one guy with long blonde 180 00:09:37,756 --> 00:09:41,370 hair and definite, you know, gift of athleticism. 181 00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:43,770 And it was clear that he had it. 182 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:46,310 Whatever it is, he had it right away. 183 00:09:50,170 --> 00:09:53,190 By the time he started wrestling, it was mid to late 1989. 184 00:09:54,090 --> 00:09:56,410 Austin started wrestling for the USWF. 185 00:09:56,411 --> 00:09:58,371 Which was the United States Wrestling Association. 186 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:00,938 So he was wrestling in Memphis and in Texas and 187 00:10:00,939 --> 00:10:03,511 all points in between that the USWA was running. 188 00:10:03,630 --> 00:10:06,550 I rolled into Nashville and I needed a place to live. 189 00:10:07,010 --> 00:10:08,050 I didn't know where to go. 190 00:10:08,090 --> 00:10:10,730 And they said, hey man, try the Congress Inn out on Dickerson Pike. 191 00:10:12,410 --> 00:10:15,330 So I rolled in there and checked in. 192 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:17,410 And man, I didn't have no money. 193 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:21,090 So every week or whenever I had enough money, I would pay my rent. 194 00:10:24,010 --> 00:10:25,350 Times were really, really lean. 195 00:10:25,351 --> 00:10:27,170 And I didn't have a hot plate. 196 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:28,330 I didn't have a microwave. 197 00:10:28,850 --> 00:10:30,930 And I remember I went to the grocery store. 198 00:10:31,090 --> 00:10:32,490 I bought some tuna fish cans. 199 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:33,630 I bought some potatoes. 200 00:10:34,070 --> 00:10:37,910 And for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, I'd eat tuna fish and potato. 201 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:41,270 And after a few days, I ran out of tuna fish. 202 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:45,590 So for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, I'd peel a raw potato and eat that. 203 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:47,630 A lot of guys ended up living with dancers. 204 00:10:47,950 --> 00:10:50,250 And a lot of guys knew where all the buffets were. 205 00:10:50,770 --> 00:10:53,850 Any kind of all-you-can-eat thing, they knew where they were. 206 00:10:54,390 --> 00:10:57,310 You had to figure out a way to survive back then. 207 00:10:57,450 --> 00:11:00,810 There was a time period there where I actually, I spent nights in my car. 208 00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:07,230 I think I'd made $11,000 in a year and put 10,000 miles on my car. 209 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:09,970 You were barely getting by. 210 00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:15,010 And so you're paying your dues, traveling 400 miles to make $10. 211 00:11:15,790 --> 00:11:19,730 I'm making $15 to $20 a night, making 400-mile round trips. 212 00:11:19,830 --> 00:11:20,570 You can't afford to eat. 213 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:24,010 I remember calling my mom where she called me and asked me how I was doing. 214 00:11:24,190 --> 00:11:26,839 And I said, Mom, is there any way for my birthday 215 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,070 this year you could just send me 40 bucks? 216 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:31,830 And it's the only time I ever asked my parents for money. 217 00:11:31,930 --> 00:11:35,070 And sure enough, a couple of days later, my mom sent me two $20 bills. 218 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:38,570 And it meant the world to me because I could afford to get something to eat again. 219 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:40,210 That's part of paying your dues. 220 00:11:40,330 --> 00:11:42,943 And I just figured, you know, starving or doing 221 00:11:42,944 --> 00:11:45,951 whatever it takes because I didn't have a plan B. 222 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:47,810 I wanted to be a pro wrestler. 223 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:50,750 And so if this is what it takes to be one, this is what I'm going to do. 224 00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:52,530 I had a lot of friends. 225 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:54,350 I showed up to my first match in Memphis. 226 00:11:55,090 --> 00:11:56,950 And Dutch Mantell was the booker. 227 00:11:56,990 --> 00:11:58,630 I go introduce myself to Dutch Mantell. 228 00:11:58,750 --> 00:11:59,886 I said, hey, man, I'm Steve Williams. 229 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:00,910 I'm here to wrestle. 230 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,510 He goes, your name is Steve Williams? 231 00:12:03,930 --> 00:12:05,210 He goes, you can't be that here. 232 00:12:05,270 --> 00:12:07,046 He goes, there's already a Dr. Death Steve Williams. 233 00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:08,390 There'd be confusion on the card. 234 00:12:08,830 --> 00:12:10,490 And he goes, you got 15 minutes. 235 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:11,190 Come up with a name. 236 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:12,550 And he walks away. 237 00:12:13,050 --> 00:12:16,810 And I'm just two months in the business, new territory, don't know anybody, 238 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:18,550 and don't know what the F to do. 239 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:20,350 Match is about to start. 240 00:12:21,020 --> 00:12:22,986 And, you know, I'm making a life-changing decision. 241 00:12:23,010 --> 00:12:26,150 And he goes, what did you come up with? 242 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:26,930 I said, I ain't got nothing. 243 00:12:27,070 --> 00:12:28,230 He goes, you're Steve Austin. 244 00:12:28,435 --> 00:12:30,246 And I started calling myself Stunning Steve Austin. 245 00:12:30,270 --> 00:12:32,310 And I had a red robe with sequins on it. 246 00:12:37,270 --> 00:12:38,710 All I did was wrestle. 247 00:12:38,970 --> 00:12:40,941 You know, go to the gym in the morning, get in 248 00:12:40,942 --> 00:12:43,010 the car, go around somewhere and drive back. 249 00:12:43,210 --> 00:12:44,210 That was life. 250 00:12:45,850 --> 00:12:46,850 I was a sponge. 251 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:51,270 And I was absorbing all this information from these great minds who would teach me 252 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:53,630 information that they got from generations before them. 253 00:12:54,510 --> 00:12:56,770 I've been very impressed by Steve Austin. 254 00:12:56,930 --> 00:12:59,430 I'm looking at how far he's come in such a short time. 255 00:12:59,670 --> 00:13:03,110 He's showing that he has the potential to go a long, long way. 256 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:04,250 He will miss. 257 00:13:04,290 --> 00:13:09,150 If he gets with the right kind of people, he'll just sit back, listen, and learn. 258 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:14,430 You watch the matches and you listen to the crowd. 259 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:18,010 You put the two together and watch what they're doing and listen to the soundtrack. 260 00:13:18,370 --> 00:13:19,210 Oh, that works. 261 00:13:19,270 --> 00:13:20,270 That doesn't work. 262 00:13:24,510 --> 00:13:25,010 Oh, yeah! 263 00:13:25,450 --> 00:13:26,770 One, two, three! 264 00:13:26,850 --> 00:13:30,530 A place like USWA at that point, it gave those wrestlers an opportunity 265 00:13:30,531 --> 00:13:35,390 where even if they were only making 10, 20, 30 bucks a night, the payoff was maybe 266 00:13:35,391 --> 00:13:39,950 someone from the WWE or World Championship Wrestling at the time might see me and 267 00:13:39,951 --> 00:13:42,353 they'll bring me up and kind of they'll be my guardian 268 00:13:42,354 --> 00:13:44,531 angel and suddenly I'll be making way more money. 269 00:13:44,610 --> 00:13:47,557 Well, I think stunning Steve Austin definitely 270 00:13:47,558 --> 00:13:50,471 has a fantastic future ahead of him in this sport. 271 00:13:56,810 --> 00:13:59,400 At that time, I was on the booking committee 272 00:13:59,401 --> 00:14:01,810 at WCW, which was World Championship Wrestling. 273 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,450 We were all challenged and compelled to try to find some new faces, some new young 274 00:14:07,451 --> 00:14:11,190 athletic talents that we could build that had potential. 275 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:13,250 Gosh, he checked all those boxes. 276 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:19,010 Back in the day, the standard deal for WCW, and this is crazy, you made 75 grand, 277 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:20,230 you know, guaranteed. 278 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:27,770 You go from getting anywhere from 20 to 60 or 100 bucks a night to 75,000 a year. 279 00:14:28,630 --> 00:14:30,050 It's like the motherlode. 280 00:14:30,290 --> 00:14:32,550 You know, again, this is not 92, 93. 281 00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:36,650 That's a lot of money, especially coming from where I came from. 282 00:14:37,370 --> 00:14:38,850 WCW is a little different level. 283 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:43,350 Bigger television opportunities, bigger chance for national exposure. 284 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:47,950 Welcome back to World Championship Wrestling, and I'm Missy Hyatt. 285 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:55,180 And stunning Steve Austin and vivacious Veronica. 286 00:14:56,260 --> 00:14:59,920 WCW, I think it's my first appearance in a ring, and Missy Hyatt's gonna interview 287 00:14:59,921 --> 00:15:03,640 me, and I'm walking down the aisle, and I'm just, I'm in another world, right? 288 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,840 And I hear the announcer over the crowd going, and from Hollywood, California. 289 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,820 So I'm like, man, who the is that guy talking about? 290 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,120 I'm walking to the ring, stunning Steve Austin. 291 00:15:16,430 --> 00:15:22,020 I'm like, when did my Texas ass with this accent, you know, become from Hollywood, 292 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,200 California? 293 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,720 I would just like to take this time to welcome you to the ring. 294 00:15:25,721 --> 00:15:27,680 Welcome you to World Championship Wrestling. 295 00:15:28,345 --> 00:15:30,880 So I get out there and climb in the ring, and I'm doing this interview with Missy 296 00:15:30,881 --> 00:15:32,362 Hyatt, and of course I got the biggest booger 297 00:15:32,363 --> 00:15:33,860 you could have hanging out of your nose. 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 I was like, really? 299 00:15:36,510 --> 00:15:39,120 It wasn't a great first appearance. 300 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,740 Stunning Steve Austin! 301 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Steve always had great natural intensity. 302 00:15:46,580 --> 00:15:48,280 It wasn't prefabricated. 303 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,040 It wasn't manufactured. 304 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:51,700 It was real. 305 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,620 And you can see that he could tap into his... 306 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,865 athletic background to bring a reality in the 307 00:15:59,866 --> 00:16:03,540 fight that very few other people could match. 308 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Oh, did you see that? 309 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,180 He had a solid run throughout his time in WCW. 310 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,500 At one point he was part of a tag team, the Hollywood Blondes. 311 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,160 They were this young, vibrant, arrogant tag team spitting in the wind 312 00:16:16,161 --> 00:16:18,280 against the veterans of that company at the time. 313 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,500 But he was always one of the secondary performers in the company. 314 00:16:23,340 --> 00:16:25,440 I don't think anyone... 315 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,500 in WCW ever visualized Steve Austin as being the top guy. 316 00:16:32,540 --> 00:16:36,500 I was keenly aware that there was that upper level, and I wasn't a part of it. 317 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,140 Unless something happened, you could not break into that next tier. 318 00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:48,030 Aesthetically, I didn't have the right look. 319 00:16:48,170 --> 00:16:50,530 I didn't have the right gimmick or persona. 320 00:16:50,970 --> 00:16:52,430 They didn't think I was marketable. 321 00:16:52,730 --> 00:16:54,890 Get out of my face! 322 00:16:56,670 --> 00:16:58,750 From the land of the rising sun. 323 00:16:59,430 --> 00:17:03,190 He was over in Japan on a three-week tour, and the third night of that tour, 324 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:05,383 I jumped off the top rope to splash a guy, and he 325 00:17:05,384 --> 00:17:08,290 moved, and I tore my right tricep off my elbow. 326 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:11,470 And so I wrestled for two and a half weeks and tore my tricep. 327 00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:14,830 You know, and as soon as I get back to the United States, my first major surgery. 328 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:20,690 And I remember getting a call from Eric Mischoff, who was running WCW at the time, 329 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:23,840 and he goes, Steve, I'm just, you know, letting you 330 00:17:23,841 --> 00:17:24,870 know that, you know, you're getting back in the ring. 331 00:17:24,871 --> 00:17:25,070 I'm fired. 332 00:17:25,810 --> 00:17:27,210 And so that's how it went down. 333 00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:29,270 Got a FedEx the next day, and I was out of a job. 334 00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:31,530 I'm sitting there trying to heal up now. 335 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:32,850 Buddy's gonna stop coming in. 336 00:17:33,330 --> 00:17:35,870 I got bills to pay and my family to feed. 337 00:17:36,110 --> 00:17:37,470 I'm like, man, what am I gonna do? 338 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:44,119 In September 1995, I was the owner of ECW and 339 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,630 was in charge of all the creative direction. 340 00:17:47,210 --> 00:17:51,030 Someone from WCW buzzed me that Steve was being let go. 341 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:54,070 So I called Steve and I said, hey, I heard you got fired. 342 00:17:54,071 --> 00:17:55,471 Right off the bat, the phone rings. 343 00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:56,630 It's Paulie. 344 00:17:56,690 --> 00:17:57,730 Paul calls me. 345 00:17:57,870 --> 00:18:01,350 He goes, kid, why don't you come over and start working for me? 346 00:18:01,850 --> 00:18:03,790 I said, Paul, I said, I can't work. 347 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:05,050 I said, I got a torn tricep. 348 00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:07,110 Oh, hell, kid, I'm hurt. 349 00:18:07,170 --> 00:18:08,170 I can't do anything. 350 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:10,690 Can you talk? 351 00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:13,110 Oh, hell, kid, I can talk all day long. 352 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:15,590 Come on up and talk. 353 00:18:16,315 --> 00:18:17,846 And I said, man, what do you want me to talk about? 354 00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:21,110 He goes, he goes, just talk about how you feel. 355 00:18:22,410 --> 00:18:25,190 If you're pissed off, come and vent. 356 00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:26,450 Let's talk about that. 357 00:18:26,675 --> 00:18:33,550 I wanted that authentic outrage on my television show. 358 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,530 Sure enough, I am flying up to Philly. 359 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:40,450 We go to that goddang ECW arena, which is a complete ho. 360 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:44,670 ECW was, well, it was purgatory, basically. 361 00:18:45,330 --> 00:18:47,430 Probably closer to hell than purgatory. 362 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:52,680 ECW is Extreme Championship Wrestling, and I dare say they earned the Extreme. 363 00:18:52,681 --> 00:18:55,260 Extreme, uh, moniker. 364 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:07,200 At ECW, we were obsessed with delivering performances that were going to redefine 365 00:19:07,201 --> 00:19:10,620 the industry, with doing things that had never been done before. 366 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:15,840 They were tables and barbed wire and blood and guts and people flying into the crowd. 367 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,860 We took in misfits. 368 00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:26,680 I mean, if there was an island for misfit wrestlers, it was ECW. 369 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Oh, my God! 370 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,880 I'm the new guy in the territory. 371 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:33,800 What's my mission? 372 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,500 What's my goal? 373 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,240 Who am I? 374 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,060 What am I? 375 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,680 You know, you're kind of lost. 376 00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:40,536 I'll never forget that night when I cut this promo. 377 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,236 It was about seven or eight minutes long, and I 378 00:19:42,237 --> 00:19:44,701 just started talking, and it was a one-take promo. 379 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960 And everything I said was how I felt. 380 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:55,800 You know, a couple of weeks ago, when Eric Bischoff told his secretary to 381 00:19:55,801 --> 00:20:00,820 tell her secretary to leave a message on my answering machine for me to call Eric 382 00:20:00,821 --> 00:20:07,680 Bischoff, and then I called Eric Bischoff, and he proceeded to fire me over the phone. 383 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,300 We're gonna put the U.S. 384 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,260 title on you, and then we're gonna take you here, and then you're the number-one 385 00:20:12,261 --> 00:20:14,400 contender, so then you get this world title shot. 386 00:20:14,401 --> 00:20:16,280 Well, all of that never happened. 387 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:19,847 And when I wrapped up that promo and they shut off 388 00:20:19,848 --> 00:20:22,221 that light, everybody in that room started clapping. 389 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,560 Standing ovation, and rightfully so. 390 00:20:25,780 --> 00:20:29,291 He was able to express himself in a way that you just 391 00:20:29,292 --> 00:20:33,180 could not do or that we were not allowed to do in WCW. 392 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,620 Man, after being held down or kind of restrained in WCW or no one believed in 393 00:20:38,621 --> 00:20:41,100 me, I knew that I had to take chances on myself. 394 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:44,303 You could tell that he was energized and that he had 395 00:20:44,304 --> 00:20:46,980 an axe to grind, and he was grinding it really well. 396 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,960 And a lot of people say that's kind of... 397 00:20:49,961 --> 00:20:53,760 maybe that was the genesis of what Stone Cold would come from. 398 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,760 Steve O'Meady is gonna run wild on the ECW, brother. 399 00:20:57,940 --> 00:20:59,200 I'm saying my first... 400 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:07,440 I'm not gonna do this anywhere, not even in ECW. 401 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:10,480 Well, Jim Ross was always an admirer of Steve's talent. 402 00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,460 So I knew ECW was always vulnerable. 403 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,060 That Jim Ross would recruit Steve into WWE. 404 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,120 Once Steve did that interview on ECW, Jim Ross came after him. 405 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,480 And rightfully so. 406 00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:24,860 How could he not? 407 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:27,380 I didn't realize how fast it was gonna happen. 408 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,760 WWE was subsidizing ECW when Steve was there. 409 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,100 So we had our eye on him for quite some time. 410 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:36,220 At least I did. 411 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240 I just had to wait for the right place at the right time to get him to WWE. 412 00:21:40,825 --> 00:21:42,960 So I made the phone rings, and it's a maroon phone. 413 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,640 And I pick it up. 414 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:45,720 Steve. 415 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,100 I said, man. 416 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Hey Vince, how you doing? 417 00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:49,320 Hey. 418 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,180 Wanna bring you in as the ringmaster. 419 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,140 Master of the ring. 420 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,356 From a creative standpoint, the character of the ringmaster 421 00:21:58,357 --> 00:22:02,060 was the best in-ring performer and could do it all. 422 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,560 And to me, that was Steve Austin. 423 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,960 And I'm sitting there listening to Vince make this pitch, and I'm like, ringmaster? 424 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:10,740 First of all, it sounds like shit. 425 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,360 But more importantly than that, I need more money than I'm making from ECW. 426 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:17,460 And I ain't got no other options. 427 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:19,460 So I said, sounds good. 428 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Let's do it. 429 00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:26,730 When I joined WWE, I know the territory was down. 430 00:22:27,070 --> 00:22:28,910 You know, things weren't great. 431 00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:30,390 They were getting by. 432 00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:33,299 But, you know, we'd go out and, I don't know, it 433 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:35,850 seemed like a house would be like a quarter full. 434 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:40,050 But I was willing to be a part of the system just because it's so new. 435 00:22:40,130 --> 00:22:41,130 It's so big. 436 00:22:41,330 --> 00:22:44,487 And I'm so far low down, you know, that, you know, I ain't 437 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:46,666 got no reason to act like a big shot because I ain't. 438 00:22:46,690 --> 00:22:50,110 Here I am as a ringmaster, a new gimmick, a bad gimmick. 439 00:22:51,090 --> 00:22:53,690 And, you know, you're, you don't know who and what you are. 440 00:22:54,410 --> 00:22:55,490 He's all business, man. 441 00:22:55,650 --> 00:22:57,957 He's not in there trying to impress anybody with how good 442 00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:00,130 he looks or, like, how pretty his hair is or anything. 443 00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:02,610 He just wants to beat up people and win matches. 444 00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:05,253 This character's a stretch because I don't 445 00:23:05,254 --> 00:23:07,650 know what it is or what it's supposed to be. 446 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:12,130 As ringmaster, I didn't know who and what I was or how I'm supposed to do things. 447 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:13,190 So it was very confusing. 448 00:23:13,930 --> 00:23:15,188 After a while, I just stopped wearing the green 449 00:23:15,189 --> 00:23:16,850 trucks because they weren't paying attention to me. 450 00:23:16,990 --> 00:23:19,730 So I'm thinking, I don't think they really got plans for me. 451 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:23,868 Vince looked at Steve, saw an average guy, says, 452 00:23:23,869 --> 00:23:27,111 I don't know what to do with him and that accent. 453 00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:28,710 It's just... 454 00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:30,790 I can't relate to him. 455 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:32,550 There's nothing about him I can relate to. 456 00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:36,970 All my initial impressions of him was, he's wasting my time. 457 00:23:37,570 --> 00:23:41,130 There was no way to go with the ringmaster to make it marquee. 458 00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:43,130 I don't give a damn who he is. 459 00:23:43,150 --> 00:23:43,850 Who was doing it? 460 00:23:43,910 --> 00:23:44,910 There's nothing there. 461 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:47,670 And I said, man, I said, this gimmick ain't worth a shit. 462 00:23:47,910 --> 00:23:50,373 And after six months or so, you know, Vince 463 00:23:50,374 --> 00:23:52,750 was kind of like, I don't care what he does. 464 00:23:52,910 --> 00:23:55,750 If he's not happy and he wants to come up with another name, let him. 465 00:23:56,190 --> 00:24:01,090 I was living in a log cabin on 10 acres right outside of Georgia in Douglasville. 466 00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:04,690 And I was over there in my log cabin and I was drinking some beer. 467 00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:08,260 And that's when they had that special on HBO about Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman. 468 00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:14,190 Well, Richard Kuklinski was a hit man, you know, for the mob. 469 00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:15,510 He's cold-blooded. 470 00:24:15,610 --> 00:24:16,610 He's remorseless. 471 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:18,450 I was glued to the set. 472 00:24:18,970 --> 00:24:21,746 When you're sitting there watching and you got a couple of beers flowing, 473 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:23,950 it's like, shh, man, this could be something. 474 00:24:25,090 --> 00:24:29,731 And I pitched that and, you know, that was when all the ideas started flowing. 475 00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:32,790 That's a tricky situation where you're fairly new in the company. 476 00:24:33,970 --> 00:24:36,861 Mr. McMahon has agreed to give you a character 477 00:24:36,862 --> 00:24:39,410 change and you were given a list from creative. 478 00:24:39,550 --> 00:24:43,790 The fact that I can rattle off more of Stone Cold's names than the terrible names 479 00:24:43,791 --> 00:24:46,770 that I was given speaks to just how bad they were. 480 00:24:47,290 --> 00:24:50,610 I'd just gotten those three pages of names like Fang McFrost. 481 00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:52,310 Snowman. 482 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,750 Otto Von Ruthless. 483 00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:54,950 Mr. Freeze. 484 00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:56,580 Ice Dagger. 485 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:57,530 Ice Dagger. 486 00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:58,350 Cool Luke. 487 00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:59,570 Fang McFrost. 488 00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:00,710 Cool Cat. 489 00:25:00,850 --> 00:25:01,850 Chilly McFreeze. 490 00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:03,010 Chilly McFreeze. 491 00:25:03,570 --> 00:25:06,030 I mean, some of the worst names you could ever imagine. 492 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:06,970 Even given... 493 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:10,910 Even everything else in the Austin package, if he's Fang McFrost or Chilly 494 00:25:10,911 --> 00:25:13,310 McFreeze, we're not having this interview right now. 495 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:18,580 And my wife at the time made me a cup of hot tea. 496 00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:21,060 And she goes, drink your tea before it gets Stone Cold. 497 00:25:21,580 --> 00:25:23,480 And she looks at me, she goes, that's your name? 498 00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:25,360 Stone Cold Steve Austin? 499 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:28,122 You know, I'm not a rocket scientist, but when 500 00:25:28,123 --> 00:25:30,000 she said that name, I knew that was the one. 501 00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:32,080 I said, okay, this is a good name. 502 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:34,634 And I wanted it to be from Victoria, Texas, because, you 503 00:25:34,635 --> 00:25:37,800 know, I just thought it had a good ring to it, a good sound. 504 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,080 But, okay, now, who is this guy? 505 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:42,020 Who and what is Stone Cold Steve Austin? 506 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,340 I got me some black boots made. 507 00:25:44,580 --> 00:25:47,700 I always thought black was badass, and, you know, menacing from Darth Vader, 508 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:50,340 Oakland Raiders-type stuff, and it fit my persona. 509 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,700 I remember one time, we were in Pittsburgh, and we were about to work 510 00:25:53,701 --> 00:25:57,420 Mellon Arena, and there I was with that buzz haircut, and, you know, I looked in 511 00:25:57,421 --> 00:25:59,301 the mirror, and I said, man, what are you doing? 512 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:03,360 So I buzzed the doll off with a razor, and then that's when I started messing 513 00:26:03,361 --> 00:26:06,220 with the mustache and finally turned into a goatee, so I started with... 514 00:26:06,221 --> 00:26:09,660 Once I got that goatee down, you know, that's when things started getting a 515 00:26:09,661 --> 00:26:13,320 little bit more menacing, and it picked up the visual that I needed. 516 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,120 I believed in the character because the character was a real person. 517 00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:29,320 Steve totally embraced the presentation of Stone Cold Steve Austin. 518 00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:31,820 He loved it. 519 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,560 He owned it. 520 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,060 He created it. 521 00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:42,960 He was bold enough to bet on himself and push and push and push until a big man 522 00:26:42,961 --> 00:26:45,761 almost threw his hands up and said, okay, okay, let's go, let's try it. 523 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:48,200 He just needs a chance. 524 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,380 Give him a reason to be a main event guy. 525 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:59,660 1995 to 1996, Stone Cold starting to find himself as a character, and then they had 526 00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:02,740 the 1996 King of the Ring tournament, which would take place in June. 527 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,020 The King of the Ring is a one-night pay-per-view. 528 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,008 Wrestlers all go through this tournament, and the winner 529 00:27:09,009 --> 00:27:11,221 is pretty much earmarked to be the next great star. 530 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,040 That's the message from the company. 531 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,827 We're going to try and push them and promote 532 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,280 them and move them up behind the scenes. 533 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:19,780 It had already been planned. 534 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,400 Triple H was going to win King of the Ring. 535 00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:25,356 But before that, Triple H ended up punished for 536 00:27:25,357 --> 00:27:27,581 this role with something called the curtain call. 537 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,237 We did a big no-no in the wrestling business where 538 00:27:30,238 --> 00:27:32,521 all of us came together in Madison Square Garden. 539 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:35,460 Myself, Triple H, Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall. 540 00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:37,220 What? 541 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:38,860 Oh, my God! 542 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Oh, my God! 543 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,700 We were expressing a real friendship out there that had really nothing to do with 544 00:27:46,701 --> 00:27:51,020 whatever was going on in the WWE at the time or from a storyline standpoint. 545 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:54,634 We were pulling the curtain back more so than 546 00:27:54,635 --> 00:27:57,921 anyone wanted the curtain being pulled back. 547 00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:02,460 It's very frowned upon, and Triple H got in a lot of trouble. 548 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:05,840 Did you know you were on the trajectory to win King of the Ring? 549 00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:06,140 Yeah. 550 00:28:06,141 --> 00:28:06,340 Oh, yeah. 551 00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:07,600 It was already... 552 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Vince had sat me down, talked to me about it. 553 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960 Here's where I want to go, King of the Ring. 554 00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:14,020 And for me, that was the next level, right? 555 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,460 And, you know, that all went away. 556 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,730 So in the pecking order, as you looked at it, you looked 557 00:28:19,731 --> 00:28:24,280 at who needed that boost and who needed maybe just a nudge. 558 00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:25,740 Steve was the guy. 559 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,640 I'm walking in the building, dragging my suitcase behind me. 560 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,300 I hear this voice. 561 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,360 It's Vince. 562 00:28:31,420 --> 00:28:33,485 He goes, Steve, I just want to let you know, 563 00:28:33,486 --> 00:28:36,381 in two weeks, you win the King of the Ring. 564 00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:38,740 I was pretty happy. 565 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:40,458 Because, you know, when you win the King of the 566 00:28:40,459 --> 00:28:41,940 Ring, you're going to get a big shove after that. 567 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120 And before, there were no future plans for me. 568 00:28:52,820 --> 00:28:54,818 I go to Milwaukee, the Mecca Arena, and I go 569 00:28:54,819 --> 00:28:57,421 out there and I'm working with Mark Merrow. 570 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,620 And we do this thing, we're having a match, and he kicks me in my mouth. 571 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,780 And we finish the match. 572 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,220 I beat him. 573 00:29:03,221 --> 00:29:07,400 My mouth is busted open pretty bad, so they take me in an ambulance to the hospital. 574 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:10,623 And so I get stitched up 14 stitches or whatever 575 00:29:10,624 --> 00:29:12,820 in my upper lip, and they bring me back. 576 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Because I'm going to wrestle Jake the Snake Roberts in the finals, and I'm going 577 00:29:16,041 --> 00:29:17,556 to beat Jake and become the King of the Ring. 578 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:20,980 When I come back, my mouth is stitched up, and as soon as I get out of the ambulance, 579 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,320 there's Michael Hayes. 580 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:25,880 We're in the back of the Mecca Arena, and he came out. 581 00:29:25,940 --> 00:29:28,460 He was going to the ring to go take on Jake. 582 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,200 I mean, literally going to the ring. 583 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760 And I said, Jake just cut a promo. 584 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,780 He says, what did he say? 585 00:29:32,781 --> 00:29:35,373 And I said, you know, he just uses some Bible 586 00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:37,500 quotes and, you know, that he was going to win. 587 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,440 My soul was purchased by the blood of the Lamb, so how could I lose if I just go out 588 00:29:42,441 --> 00:29:46,020 there and know the power above is reaching down and lifting me up? 589 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,320 And when he told me that, I immediately thought of the football days back in the 590 00:29:50,321 --> 00:29:52,680 day when they're kicking the field goals a point after. 591 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,240 They always had John 316 signs behind the field goals. 592 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,600 So anyway, we go out there, and we have the match, myself and Jake, and because my 593 00:30:00,601 --> 00:30:02,580 lip was busted up, we had a real short match. 594 00:30:02,780 --> 00:30:05,109 After the match, I go over there to do the interview 595 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:07,441 with Michael Hayes, who had smartened me up. 596 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,660 You thump your Bible, and you say your prayers, and it didn't get you anywhere. 597 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,260 Talk about your Psalms. 598 00:30:15,261 --> 00:30:16,880 Talk about John 316. 599 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,340 Austin 316 says, I just whipped your ass. 600 00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,520 Austin 316 says, I just whipped your ass. 601 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,100 Austin 316 says, I just whipped your ass. 602 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:29,456 Said, I just whipped your ass. 603 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,600 I just whipped your ass. 604 00:30:30,601 --> 00:30:33,360 And thus, a franchise was born. 605 00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:38,700 There was a vibe of, like, a rocket ship igniting its engine to take off. 606 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,160 That was the moment where the character really became a star. 607 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,260 That's the epicenter of the explosion that eventually happens. 608 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,444 I remember thinking halfway through this 609 00:30:49,456 --> 00:30:51,580 promo, like, I'm watching this guy get made. 610 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,140 And part of me was like, holy, that should have been me. 611 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,660 But also, holy, I wouldn't have cut that promo. 612 00:30:57,661 --> 00:31:01,328 And I think the stitches in his lip and coming 613 00:31:01,329 --> 00:31:04,220 back only added to the aura of that interview. 614 00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:05,620 I just got back from hospital. 615 00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:08,040 So I just kind of put that together in my head. 616 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,360 And I didn't know what kind of holy moment that was, but it was. 617 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,300 And then on the back side of it, I knew I needed to wrap it up. 618 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,560 I needed to put a button on it. 619 00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:19,140 And that's the bottom line for Kostanko Setso. 620 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,540 And that's the bottom line, because Kostanko Setso was on the spot. 621 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720 I went to bat twice, and I hit two grand slams. 622 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,460 Out of any event, I was never supposed to win. 623 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:30,860 Next night, we showed up. 624 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:33,077 All of a sudden, there's the Austin 316 signs, 625 00:31:33,078 --> 00:31:35,621 and we realized there might be something here. 626 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:46,330 Next night on Raw, you saw all these Austin 316 signs all over the building. 627 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:52,030 I remember thinking to myself at that time, man, everything happens for a 628 00:31:52,031 --> 00:31:55,830 reason, because this guy is going to be massive now. 629 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:57,970 One day, I'm talking to our merch guy. 630 00:31:57,971 --> 00:31:59,470 I'm sitting in the arena. 631 00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:03,570 He goes, Steven, Office finally wants to come up with a T-shirt for you. 632 00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:04,820 You got any ideas? 633 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:07,370 I said, you're goddamn right I do. 634 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,191 I said, put Austin 316 on the front, put a skull in the back, and carve in Stone Cold. 635 00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:14,530 Okay, Steven. 636 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:18,190 And sure enough, we came up with that shirt, and it sold like a son of a bitch. 637 00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:23,310 From that point on, when he got the chance to speak, there was an intensity there 638 00:32:23,311 --> 00:32:25,630 that you couldn't help but want to watch that segment. 639 00:32:25,890 --> 00:32:28,061 The way he walked, the way he stalked the crowd, 640 00:32:28,141 --> 00:32:30,530 the way he looked at people, he had that icy glare. 641 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:34,010 Because he was in the zone at that level, you couldn't help but be like, 642 00:32:34,315 --> 00:32:35,466 got to see what he's going to do. 643 00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:38,150 Why do you keep asking me stupid questions? 644 00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:41,430 No second thought I'll whip your asses right now. 645 00:32:41,730 --> 00:32:42,570 Shut up. 646 00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:45,210 Stone Cold never gave a rat's ass about anybody. 647 00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:49,770 I don't know what pressure is, fat boy, but I got a big bunch of bananas, 648 00:32:50,050 --> 00:32:52,450 and I can tell you where to stick each and every one of them. 649 00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:56,450 You ain't worth the sweat off of my... Hey. 650 00:32:56,451 --> 00:32:56,530 Hey. 651 00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:57,350 Hey. 652 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:03,271 My mom used to tell me, Steven, if you were on TV, I wouldn't let you watch you. 653 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:04,790 You're a piece of garbage. 654 00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:05,370 Oh, no. 655 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:07,230 See, take your camera and stick it, son. 656 00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:10,017 I ain't leaving yet, and you can stop counting 657 00:33:10,018 --> 00:33:12,250 me down, because I done told you once, son. 658 00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:13,510 We got a damn album. 659 00:33:13,511 --> 00:33:14,730 Hey, hey, wait a minute. 660 00:33:15,270 --> 00:33:17,530 There's a production assistant. 661 00:33:19,810 --> 00:33:22,710 He is now the guy in the eyes of the audience. 662 00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:24,110 Like, he can do no wrong. 663 00:33:24,290 --> 00:33:25,570 They want to be part of that chaos. 664 00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:26,946 They want to be part of that energy. 665 00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:31,110 They want to go and experience Stone Cold Steve Austin, the act, live. 666 00:33:31,950 --> 00:33:34,680 You really start feeling that momentum, because you're finally 667 00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:37,390 getting the desired response that you want from these people. 668 00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:40,890 So now that I'm getting that feedback, I can feed it to you. 669 00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:46,710 Throughout that period of time, I'm trying my hardest to entertain you or 670 00:33:46,711 --> 00:33:49,730 grab your heartstrings to make you feel what I'm feeling, channel that. 671 00:33:50,510 --> 00:33:54,446 I'm doing my damnedest to try to affect you, and I 672 00:33:54,447 --> 00:33:57,611 guess I was effective at making people feel emotions. 673 00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,906 There's a perception that Steve just came out of nowhere. 674 00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:04,890 That's a misconception on a lot of people's parts. 675 00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:09,550 Stone Cold lived within, and it took ten years to come out. 676 00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:15,570 If you look at that time period, the WWE was at its lowest point. 677 00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:17,504 The only way they could have gone any lower is going 678 00:34:17,505 --> 00:34:19,491 out of business or for the company to fall apart. 679 00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:22,550 He dragged them into success. 680 00:34:22,910 --> 00:34:27,250 Austin's ascension is tied intricately to the ascension of WWE. 681 00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:29,130 We're coming back to life. 682 00:34:29,330 --> 00:34:30,350 The flame isn't dead. 683 00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:35,070 By 1997, Stone Cold's the hottest he's ever been. 684 00:34:35,425 --> 00:34:38,890 The company's building him as one of the biggest stars in their company. 685 00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:40,830 He's driving revenue. 686 00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:41,930 He's selling merchandise. 687 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:42,990 He's making money. 688 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:46,670 But up next, ladies and gentlemen, the Intercontinental Championship matchup. 689 00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:50,610 It's Owen Hart in a title defense against Stone Cold Steve Austin. 690 00:34:50,890 --> 00:34:52,790 Me and Owen, we're gonna have a hell of a match. 691 00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:57,450 And we had had this plan where he'd end up hitting me with a tombstone piledriver. 692 00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:00,790 And I said, you go down to your knees, right? 693 00:35:00,910 --> 00:35:02,006 Because I'm looking for clearance. 694 00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:03,150 He goes, no, I go to my ass. 695 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:06,110 I said, but it seemed like you got to go down to your knees. 696 00:35:06,210 --> 00:35:06,850 He goes, no. 697 00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:11,370 And when Owen said, this is how I do it, I trusted him because he's Owen Hart. 698 00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:15,890 And so anyway, we get out there and things go like they did. 699 00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:18,518 And man, he goes to his ass and my head is 700 00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,890 sticking out about six inches below his ass. 701 00:35:21,891 --> 00:35:23,430 And boy, I got spiked on the mat. 702 00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:24,590 And it was not good. 703 00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:27,410 Let's see what Austin can do with Eamon. 704 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,050 No. 705 00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:29,210 How about that? 706 00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:29,850 A good read. 707 00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:31,190 Let's go. 708 00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:32,510 Tombstone piledriver. 709 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:34,230 Shades of the Undertaker. 710 00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:38,930 Yeah, it was gnarly. 711 00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:42,830 You could tell immediately that Steve was, you know, that he was injured. 712 00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:48,970 It sounded like someone hit a big gong. 713 00:35:49,570 --> 00:35:55,151 And it was my skull, you know, striking that damn ring dead center in the middle. 714 00:35:57,010 --> 00:36:00,450 And then I didn't feel anything because I'm laying there and I'm paralyzed. 715 00:36:00,770 --> 00:36:04,250 And I was like, man, on one hand, I could have freaked out and got scared. 716 00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:06,470 But instead, I remained calm. 717 00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:08,710 I was like, don't touch me. 718 00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:09,170 I can't move. 719 00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:12,590 And so he starts buying time because I think I'm never going to move again. 720 00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:18,530 As soon as he got injured, I called his wife up. 721 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:21,010 I said, hey, did you really get hurt? 722 00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:23,030 Or was this a show? 723 00:36:23,330 --> 00:36:24,970 He said, no, he really got hurt. 724 00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:28,150 It was 1997 to this day. 725 00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:32,490 I cry about it every time I hear about it. 726 00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:35,070 I'm thinking, I got to get out of this match. 727 00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:37,150 I got to get out of this match so we can go back. 728 00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:39,410 And Earl Hebner's a referee in that match. 729 00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:42,010 And I told Earl, I said, tell him roll up for the win. 730 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:44,110 I thought I could start moving my arms and legs. 731 00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:46,498 And when I tried to, if you go back and watch 732 00:36:46,499 --> 00:36:48,510 that, it's like my knees are creaking together. 733 00:36:48,511 --> 00:36:49,551 I get in a crawl position. 734 00:36:49,830 --> 00:36:52,590 And I can't crawl like this because my hands don't work. 735 00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:55,130 So I had to crawl using my forearms. 736 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:59,735 And I give him the initial thing, and he 737 00:36:59,736 --> 00:37:01,750 goes with me, and he doesn't try to fight it. 738 00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:03,746 It's the worst roll up in the history of the business. 739 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:03,890 He's driving. 740 00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:05,630 No, kick it out! 741 00:37:06,590 --> 00:37:08,850 And man, I am gone. 742 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:12,010 I've been, you know, a quadriplegic for 60 seconds. 743 00:37:12,190 --> 00:37:14,170 And my world has been turned upside down. 744 00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:17,830 The referees come to the ring, and they, three of them help me up. 745 00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:22,450 I got my arms around their shoulders, and I pull them off because I want to get 746 00:37:22,451 --> 00:37:24,706 up, and I want to address that crowd and hold up that belt. 747 00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:25,815 And the only reason I held up that belt was 748 00:37:25,835 --> 00:37:27,930 to signal the crowd that, hey, man, I'm cool. 749 00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:32,710 And man, when you look at that, my eyes are open, but I'm worlds away. 750 00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:38,490 The referees help me to the back, and as I'm walking, this leg is dragging 751 00:37:38,491 --> 00:37:41,450 behind me for quite a bit because of my nerve damage. 752 00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:46,370 I watched Steve stand up on legs that he couldn't feel. 753 00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:52,270 I don't know how in the hell, Steve, still that he was able to get up. 754 00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:57,570 That's a will that supersedes what the body can do. 755 00:37:58,590 --> 00:37:59,950 Everybody thought I broke my neck. 756 00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:00,650 I didn't break my neck. 757 00:38:00,730 --> 00:38:01,730 I bruised my spinal cord. 758 00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:02,910 I'm a pretty tough guy. 759 00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:07,850 On that night, I was 1% tough and 99% lucky. 760 00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:13,350 You know, and that's why I get a little bit emotional about it because if anything 761 00:38:13,351 --> 00:38:16,590 would have went any differently, I'd have been in a wheelchair. 762 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:18,466 I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you. 763 00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:21,130 Nothing that ever happened after that would have happened. 764 00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:23,050 Everything was on the line. 765 00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:24,506 Where are the ambulance people? 766 00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:25,770 Where are the ambulance people? 767 00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:26,890 Get the ambulance. 768 00:38:27,370 --> 00:38:29,030 You want to just call 911 or what? 769 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:30,130 Get the medics. 770 00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:31,270 No, they're over there. 771 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:36,192 I'd put on a pair of shorts and I was sitting up there 772 00:38:36,193 --> 00:38:39,410 against the wall and I was like... Well, I was shaking. 773 00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,590 I kind of started crying a little bit because it scared me so bad. 774 00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:47,930 I think an injury of that magnitude makes us question our own mortality. 775 00:38:47,931 --> 00:38:50,590 And that's not something we're often faced with. 776 00:38:54,270 --> 00:38:56,903 And I remember I passed the test in the hospital, 777 00:38:56,983 --> 00:38:59,050 but the doctor said, you know, you're pretty... 778 00:39:01,810 --> 00:39:05,550 Initially, Dr. Torg said, man, you're not getting back in the ring. 779 00:39:05,965 --> 00:39:07,802 And it's easy for a doctor to sit there and tell me 780 00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:09,991 maybe you ought to think about doing something else. 781 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,290 But this is what Steve Austin has done for a living. 782 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:14,710 I've done it for eight years. 783 00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:17,398 Austin 316 started a year and a half ago and 784 00:39:17,399 --> 00:39:19,230 I ain't ready to give that up for nobody. 785 00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:21,370 And no one's gonna run me out of wrestling. 786 00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:23,826 And there ain't a doctor in the world that can make me quit. 787 00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:26,430 It took me long enough to get to the top. 788 00:39:26,890 --> 00:39:30,641 And you get to the top and it's like, man, you're riding 789 00:39:30,642 --> 00:39:33,330 a lightning bolt and you're going 100 miles an hour. 790 00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:37,470 Then all of a sudden, man, out of nowhere, you come to a screeching halt. 791 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:40,290 Here was this opportunity he worked so hard for. 792 00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:43,830 And like that, it could all be over. 793 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,210 After that bad injury, my anterior delts were on fire. 794 00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:51,350 For like a couple of weeks. 795 00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:53,390 I mean, like someone put Icy Hot on them. 796 00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:54,510 It was the weirdest thing. 797 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:56,390 And I didn't think it was ever gonna stop. 798 00:39:56,590 --> 00:39:58,190 And it turned into an itch. 799 00:39:58,290 --> 00:40:00,110 And then finally, it went away. 800 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:08,570 When I took that piledriver back in the day, when those reps were carrying me out, 801 00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:11,290 you can watch my left leg kind of dragging behind me. 802 00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:16,330 So like, if I get cold, you know, that leg will kind of... 803 00:40:16,331 --> 00:40:18,910 It just doesn't respond the same. 804 00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:20,570 And, you know, just... 805 00:40:20,571 --> 00:40:24,710 When you bruise your spinal cord and that stuff happens, it just... 806 00:40:24,711 --> 00:40:25,711 It does a reverse. 807 00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:30,030 So I've got some atrophy and some stuff like that. 808 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,880 Coming out of the pro wrestling does this... 809 00:40:35,881 --> 00:40:38,960 I ask the guys that are five years older than me and ten years older than me, 810 00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:40,180 hey, man, how you feeling? 811 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,100 So I kind of know what's next. 812 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,736 You know, what they're going through. 813 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000 Because I know they've been through the same that I have. 814 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,980 I've never had any neck pain. 815 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,885 You know, everybody always thinks, hey, man, 816 00:40:49,886 --> 00:40:51,880 Steve got dropped on his head and he got a fusion. 817 00:40:51,881 --> 00:40:53,260 His neck's all jacked up. 818 00:40:53,845 --> 00:40:54,845 Man, I feel good. 819 00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:57,820 You know, every now and then if I'm sitting around too long, I'll get a little 820 00:40:57,821 --> 00:40:59,496 gimped up, just got to stretch it a little bit. 821 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200 But I really can't complain about anything. 822 00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:05,178 Through all the surgeries and just the wear and tear of the 823 00:41:05,179 --> 00:41:08,160 road, for what it's worth, through all the stuff, I feel good. 824 00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:12,675 To WWE's credit, Steve's credit, they managed 825 00:41:12,676 --> 00:41:15,460 to take that injury and he became even bigger. 826 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,360 It has been said that anything can happen here in the World Wrestling Federation, 827 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,860 but now more than ever, truer words have never been spoken. 828 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,140 This is a conscious effort on our part to open the creative envelope, so to speak, 829 00:41:26,635 --> 00:41:28,980 in order to entertain you in a more contemporary manner. 830 00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:35,400 For me, the start of the Attitude Era was the day in late 1997 when Mr. McMahon 831 00:41:35,401 --> 00:41:42,040 addressed the roster, admitted that the old days were gone and that if we were 832 00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,978 going to succeed, we would have to put our 833 00:41:44,979 --> 00:41:47,380 own personal emphasis into these characters. 834 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,834 The Attitude Era is a point in time in pro 835 00:41:50,835 --> 00:41:54,781 wrestling history where WWE got a lot edgier. 836 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,700 It becomes violent. 837 00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:01,140 It becomes chaotic. 838 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,440 They pushed sexuality with women. 839 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,800 They pushed storylines that were blatantly over the top. 840 00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:13,120 Everybody felt this interesting shift that was happening in wrestling, and that 841 00:42:13,121 --> 00:42:17,940 seismic shift now was away from the cartoon era, the superhero era, 842 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,060 if you will, in pro wrestling, into an edgier, reality-based program. 843 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,840 The Attitude Era was the era of reality, the 844 00:42:26,841 --> 00:42:30,841 era of pushing the limits as far as we could. 845 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:32,480 It's the golden era. 846 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,760 The Attitude Era, a lot of it was blending reality and fiction. 847 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,251 It was more real and more versions of 848 00:42:42,263 --> 00:42:45,100 ourselves just with the volume turned way up. 849 00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:46,220 Suck it! 850 00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:54,640 I would imagine doing the suck it probably caused more suspensions and detentions in 851 00:42:54,641 --> 00:42:58,500 school than any other thing in the history of school in America. 852 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,300 We saw the very best in what people had to offer. 853 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,440 It's awesome! 854 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,040 And Steve happened to have been the best of all of us at bringing that to the plate. 855 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,560 He was in a different stratosphere. 856 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:12,340 It was the era of holy shit. 857 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,980 Steve's Glass was the soundtrack to holy shit. 858 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:24,760 No matter what was happening, holy shit, right? 859 00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:25,920 Like that was the moment. 860 00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:28,140 I'm getting goosebumps right now talking about it. 861 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:38,260 Whether it's an arena of 2,000 or 20,000 or 100,000, they know when that glass 862 00:43:38,261 --> 00:43:41,261 breaks, there's a sumbitch coming out there to deal out a can of world bass. 863 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,420 When that glass broke, here he came with his whole, you know, head bouncing, 864 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,508 you know, and, you know, he's saying whatever he's 865 00:43:49,548 --> 00:43:51,760 saying under his breath, and you just see that attitude. 866 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,384 I remember the first time I heard that glass 867 00:43:57,385 --> 00:43:59,600 break and I saw him walk down to the ring. 868 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,140 It was the first time that I ever got goosebumps in my entire life. 869 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,820 20,000, 40,000, 60,000 people were going absolutely insane. 870 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,080 I said, I want to be like that guy. 871 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,160 In that moment, I said, I need to be a pro wrestler. 872 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,460 That was the walk of a guy who'd been down the road, paid his dues, learned the 873 00:44:18,461 --> 00:44:22,120 business, got over despite what anybody else thought about him. 874 00:44:22,180 --> 00:44:23,520 This guy's not marketable. 875 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,776 He's never going to draw no money. 876 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,880 The company finally picked me, and that's the guy walking to the ring. 877 00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:33,100 The character of Stone Cold Steve Austin was a very reality-based persona, 878 00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:35,600 which is not what this industry was built on. 879 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:42,720 So the whole attitude era that was ushered in was ushered in as an extension of the 880 00:44:42,721 --> 00:44:47,180 personality that was brought out by Stone Cold Steve Austin. 881 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:55,000 And that makes him, in many ways, the most pivotal human being and character 882 00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:57,300 in pro wrestling history. 883 00:44:57,660 --> 00:44:59,200 Now we have to go a little bit higher. 884 00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:00,940 Now we have to go a little bit bigger. 885 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:06,280 Stone Cold's success in the attitude era can be attributed to many people. 886 00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:14,660 But in order for your star hero to become successful, he has to have real, 887 00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:16,440 viable villains. 888 00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:21,860 Vince McMahon was the greatest villain in the attitude era. 889 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,960 Bar none. 890 00:45:24,940 --> 00:45:28,728 Vince would show up in some way, take away that thing that 891 00:45:28,729 --> 00:45:32,420 you desperately wanted as a fan, and it drove me insane. 892 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,784 And that's why the attitude era was so popular, was 893 00:45:35,884 --> 00:45:38,060 that Vince versus Stone Cold, you know, rivalry. 894 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,180 Vince and I were tailor-made for each other to work together. 895 00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:45,000 Vince was unique because he was the owner. 896 00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,340 Now he's feuding with me. 897 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,140 It's a real storyline. 898 00:45:47,141 --> 00:45:49,360 You can kiss my ass! 899 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:58,650 All of a sudden, it wasn't just about wrestling. 900 00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:03,390 It was about this guy who was an employee against his boss. 901 00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:06,370 And everybody's an employee that has a boss. 902 00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:08,688 And a lot of times, the employee has not 903 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,950 liked what the boss has done or said to him. 904 00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:12,050 Screw you! 905 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:13,610 You're fired! 906 00:46:14,370 --> 00:46:15,450 Vince is crazy. 907 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:16,990 He really is. 908 00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:18,490 That stuff is not fair. 909 00:46:18,491 --> 00:46:22,610 Far from what Vince would do as to what Mr. McMahon did. 910 00:46:23,170 --> 00:46:27,790 Mr. McMahon is a character that's no way in the world like me. 911 00:46:28,170 --> 00:46:29,290 We'll start with that. 912 00:46:29,570 --> 00:46:30,670 But he's arrogant. 913 00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:36,910 I am a handsome, affluent entrepreneur. 914 00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:39,050 He's rich. 915 00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:40,630 I said black tie. 916 00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:43,110 He can treat people like crap. 917 00:46:43,530 --> 00:46:48,290 The thought of you, Austin, makes me physically ill, makes me want to vomit! 918 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:52,850 Everyday people saw something of themselves in Steve, and they saw Mr. 919 00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:55,450 McMahon as the system that was holding them down. 920 00:46:55,730 --> 00:47:00,073 Nobody, especially Vince McMahon, tells Stone Cold 921 00:47:00,074 --> 00:47:03,290 Steve Austin what to do, and that's the bottom line. 922 00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:05,939 It was the consummate working class hero, 923 00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:09,311 Stone Cold Steve Austin, against the machine. 924 00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:15,230 Steve was the rage against the machine. 925 00:47:15,650 --> 00:47:17,350 The lipstick is here! 926 00:47:17,351 --> 00:47:19,010 Oh, my God, I don't believe this. 927 00:47:19,210 --> 00:47:21,650 That's one of the core events of Mr. McMahon's collection. 928 00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:22,990 That's a $50,000 car! 929 00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:26,950 At that time, everybody wanted to be Stone Cold Steve Austin. 930 00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:31,850 He captured everybody's feelings perfectly. 931 00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:37,990 You are the world's dumbest son of a bitch! 932 00:47:38,570 --> 00:47:40,805 Vince was like a kid in a candy store getting to work 933 00:47:40,806 --> 00:47:42,911 with me, because he always wanted to be a wrestler. 934 00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:47,750 He finally got a chance to perform, not just oversee and give instructions. 935 00:47:48,070 --> 00:47:50,774 If you go back, man, you watch some of the blue jeans I 936 00:47:50,775 --> 00:47:53,410 wore, some of the shorts I wore would get ringing tight. 937 00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:56,230 I couldn't physically pick my leg up high enough. 938 00:47:56,410 --> 00:47:57,970 Always the target is the gut. 939 00:47:58,130 --> 00:48:00,367 But when you can't pick your leg up high enough, 940 00:48:00,368 --> 00:48:02,190 right below the stomach is the testicles. 941 00:48:02,510 --> 00:48:04,206 He didn't know where those kicks were coming. 942 00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:06,070 You know, he really, he had no idea. 943 00:48:06,190 --> 00:48:07,070 He had no idea. 944 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:09,706 He was gonna make contact with something that was in front of him. 945 00:48:09,730 --> 00:48:16,251 So many times, I kicked him right in the jewels and he just went... Steve. 946 00:48:16,990 --> 00:48:20,890 You know, if Steve kicks you in the Netherlands or something like that, 947 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:23,810 it's easy to sell that. 948 00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:28,050 We had to keep upping the game a little bit, so... 949 00:48:28,890 --> 00:48:32,170 What could Stone Cold do to up the ante? 950 00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:33,210 We had boards of stuff. 951 00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:34,770 What the hell can Steve do? 952 00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:35,630 Something crazy. 953 00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:38,290 I don't know, drive a Zamboni to the ring. 954 00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:40,980 Seriously, that's how it happened? 955 00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:45,890 It was a Zamboni incident. 956 00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:47,826 We did, but I didn't have a lot of experience in the hospital. 957 00:48:47,850 --> 00:48:49,950 There you see Mr. McMahon via satellite. 958 00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:51,330 I want apple juice. 959 00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:53,050 Oh, man, that was a great one. 960 00:48:53,170 --> 00:48:54,010 So I go out there. 961 00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:55,170 How about you, doctor? 962 00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:56,790 Oh, I'll take it from here, nurse. 963 00:48:57,850 --> 00:48:58,850 Go down! 964 00:48:59,210 --> 00:49:01,610 I said, man, I'm worried about hitting you with that bed pan. 965 00:49:01,850 --> 00:49:03,610 It was almost a stainless steel bed pan. 966 00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:05,286 Man, that's something that just, it was hard. 967 00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:06,866 He goes, oh, god damn, Steve, you got to. 968 00:49:06,890 --> 00:49:10,710 And I'm watching Steve as he's walking up and down the hallway, the hospital, 969 00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:14,650 and he's hitting his head with the damn bed pan. 970 00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:16,830 I was kinda just bouncing it with the damn bed pan. 971 00:49:16,831 --> 00:49:21,370 When you hit people with objects for a living you become an expert at hitting 972 00:49:21,371 --> 00:49:23,610 people, you know, with objects for a living. 973 00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:27,370 So when I swung it, boy I just reached up and grabbed it and nailed him with it. 974 00:49:29,950 --> 00:49:32,230 It ain't ballet as the expression goes, you know. 975 00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:36,950 I love Vince. 976 00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:39,710 The guy would do absolutely anything for me. 977 00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:41,510 And I would for him too. 978 00:49:41,511 --> 00:49:44,950 Again, every now and then someone very special would come along. 979 00:49:45,590 --> 00:49:47,510 And, um, Steve's that. 980 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:51,990 Man, there was a period there where everything we did was a home run and a 981 00:49:51,991 --> 00:49:55,690 grand slam, and if you had a double or triple, that was a bad day. 982 00:49:57,740 --> 00:50:02,310 At his peak, Steve was one of the most recognizable faces in the world. 983 00:50:06,030 --> 00:50:11,490 Austin 316 shirts were now on Spencer's Gifts and Hot Topic and Wall Street. 984 00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:16,390 You go to Walmart and you go in Foley's or Macy's and there's Austin 316. 985 00:50:16,690 --> 00:50:17,690 It was everywhere. 986 00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:19,769 And of course, you know, he had one quarter where 987 00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:21,350 he even had a million dollar selling t-shirts. 988 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:24,412 If you look at any sales chart, Steve Austin's 989 00:50:24,413 --> 00:50:27,070 t-shirts are still amongst the best sellers in WWE. 990 00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:28,470 To this day! 991 00:50:29,470 --> 00:50:32,310 Well, it first hit me when me and my wife would love to go to Las Vegas. 992 00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:35,799 Every single person I saw walk in the streets, 993 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,970 everybody has Steve Austin t-shirts on. 994 00:50:38,110 --> 00:50:39,110 It was crazy. 995 00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:46,250 If you turned on the TV, all of the night shows... 996 00:50:46,770 --> 00:50:49,070 Please welcome Stone Cold, Steve Austin! 997 00:50:49,850 --> 00:50:50,950 Man, it's good to be here. 998 00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:59,580 Any show like that, he was on it. 999 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,480 Commercials... 1000 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,820 Can I get one more of those? 1001 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,000 Sure. 1002 00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:09,080 Wrestling just came in like a tsunami. 1003 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,080 Thanks, Dad. 1004 00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:12,300 That helps. 1005 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:14,580 SportsCenter wasn't embracing wrestling back then. 1006 00:51:14,581 --> 00:51:20,700 And I just remember this tidal wave of whether you're accepting us or not, 1007 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,880 here we come. 1008 00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:23,540 He wasn't even a wrestling fan. 1009 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,960 But he was so big, he crossed over into mainstream. 1010 00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:30,360 We'd like to welcome back Stone Cold, Steve Austin. 1011 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,040 He was bigger than wrestling. 1012 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,200 People who aren't wrestling fans or don't care 1013 00:51:34,201 --> 00:51:36,961 about wrestling, even they knew who Stone Cold was. 1014 00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:41,080 When you cross over like that, that's when, you know, you've made it. 1015 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:41,680 Hey man. 1016 00:51:41,681 --> 00:51:42,480 Nice to meet you. 1017 00:51:42,481 --> 00:51:43,100 Nice to meet you too. 1018 00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:44,240 Thank you very much. 1019 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:44,660 I appreciate it. 1020 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,900 When Austin 316 became so hot and everybody had heard about it, that we 1021 00:51:49,901 --> 00:51:52,306 would be, you know, in an airport and I'd get 1022 00:51:52,307 --> 00:51:54,720 preachers and priests and religious people, you know. 1023 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,200 They'd say, hey man, is it okay if I get your autograph? 1024 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,440 And I'd say, sure. 1025 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,540 I said, I thought you'd be mad at me for inventing the Austin 316 thing. 1026 00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:02,940 They'd say, oh no, we don't care. 1027 00:52:04,780 --> 00:52:10,760 Steve's legacy is one that kind of makes it hard for us to be WWE superstars. 1028 00:52:10,761 --> 00:52:15,620 His impact is felt in a way that none of us can kind of compare to him. 1029 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,672 You know, we certainly try, but there's always going to 1030 00:52:18,673 --> 00:52:21,340 be somebody somewhere that's going to say, pretty good. 1031 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,900 Not Stone Cold though. 1032 00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:37,530 When it was at its peak during the Attitude Era, it was Mob City. 1033 00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:39,810 It's like the Beatles just landed. 1034 00:52:39,970 --> 00:52:41,050 It was amazing. 1035 00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:45,130 It sounds glamorous, but you're choosing to be on the road. 1036 00:52:45,590 --> 00:52:45,970 A lot. 1037 00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:49,590 You have to love the business to put yourself through that. 1038 00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:53,010 That's where you really start evaluating your entire life. 1039 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,500 Man, when you're running like I was, at my peak, it's 1040 00:53:06,501 --> 00:53:09,360 hard to do anything other than be a pro wrestler. 1041 00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:11,760 Because it consumes everything about you. 1042 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,800 You are in go mode 24-7, 365. 1043 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,760 You are a slave to the road. 1044 00:53:18,761 --> 00:53:20,648 And you never want to come off the road 1045 00:53:20,708 --> 00:53:22,580 because if you come off the road, you get soft. 1046 00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:23,920 So I was never home. 1047 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,580 That's a recipe for disaster. 1048 00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:30,840 It all looks fun when you're seeing it on TV. 1049 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:33,360 But it ain't always TV. 1050 00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:37,460 TV's a very small part of the life that you live when you're doing that job. 1051 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200 The pressure was immense for him. 1052 00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:43,940 And part of that was, I think, because he had so much going on. 1053 00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:46,921 As the pressures mounted around him work-wise, he had a 1054 00:53:46,922 --> 00:53:48,740 lot of pressures at home and a lot of pressures at work. 1055 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,440 He had a lot of pressures with his family. 1056 00:53:50,860 --> 00:53:51,860 It was a lot. 1057 00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:52,780 It was a lot. 1058 00:53:52,940 --> 00:53:54,576 You know, that's the thing about the business. 1059 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,280 You've got all the personal problems that everybody else does. 1060 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:00,300 I've got two daughters. 1061 00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:01,780 Stephanie Britt's the oldest. 1062 00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:03,100 Cassie Skye's the youngest. 1063 00:54:04,780 --> 00:54:05,980 And I remember I came home. 1064 00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:08,260 I think when Stephanie was born, I flew in. 1065 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,060 I was in New York City. 1066 00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:09,960 We were working in New York. 1067 00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:10,580 That was the garden. 1068 00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:11,700 And I flew home. 1069 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,200 I was there for her birth. 1070 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,660 And then as soon as she was born, I held her. 1071 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:17,940 I gave her like her first bottle. 1072 00:54:17,941 --> 00:54:19,040 I got on an airplane. 1073 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,100 And I was in Pittsburgh that night working. 1074 00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:27,740 The truth is even guys that were married and had families and things like that, 1075 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,320 they were more married to the road and the business. 1076 00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:35,760 To be successful in this industry, you have to be willing to commit an 1077 00:54:35,761 --> 00:54:39,080 enormous amount of time away from being home. 1078 00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:40,780 There's just no other way to do it. 1079 00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:44,100 It's an extremely difficult life. 1080 00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:45,300 It really is. 1081 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,920 If you have a family, so do you. 1082 00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:48,220 It's so difficult. 1083 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,820 It's so difficult on everybody. 1084 00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,100 I think that's probably why there's such a 1085 00:54:53,101 --> 00:54:55,780 high rate of divorce and things of that nature. 1086 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,360 I try to not bring up that stuff. 1087 00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:00,660 I knew what family life was like. 1088 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:03,240 It's unsatisfying. 1089 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,580 It's a source of consternation. 1090 00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,880 It's a source of crying children and heartbreak. 1091 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,020 It's a source of unhappy spouses. 1092 00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:13,496 It's not like you're making a conscious decision. 1093 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,156 Hey, I'm putting everybody else on the back burner. 1094 00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:16,720 But I decided to get a divorce. 1095 00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:19,780 You know, when you go through a divorce, they're chaotic. 1096 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,800 So obviously, you're very distracted. 1097 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,740 I was living in a house, but once I decided to get a divorce, I moved 1098 00:55:25,741 --> 00:55:28,940 literally about two or three miles down the road in a little double-wide. 1099 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,500 And although I was going through pain or whatever goes with a divorce, when I moved 1100 00:55:35,501 --> 00:55:37,471 into that double-wide, me and a double-wide, 1101 00:55:37,483 --> 00:55:38,980 for some reason, there's synergy. 1102 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,620 I had two cinder blocks with a 1x12 plank where my TV was. 1103 00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:46,260 I had my cooler, you know, full of beer. 1104 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,914 It's too bad that the marriage didn't work out, 1105 00:55:48,915 --> 00:55:51,561 but I found comfort and solace in that double-wide. 1106 00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,581 You can be in the business and you can still live a full 1107 00:55:56,582 --> 00:56:00,240 life, but everything else is kind of like white noise. 1108 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,780 I'm putting all my chips in my own basket, and this is what I'm doing. 1109 00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:08,420 And that was the first and foremost priority was me. 1110 00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:13,029 Selfish I was, and I was going to ride myself and 1111 00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:16,700 everything that the business had to get to the top. 1112 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:18,560 I was going to step up and do the best I could. 1113 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:24,640 There's a sacrifice to greatness, and it's a price that a lot of people are 1114 00:56:24,641 --> 00:56:27,720 not willing to pay, because there is an intensity to it. 1115 00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:35,540 There is an obligation to your own vision and dreams that you have to service at all 1116 00:56:35,541 --> 00:56:39,940 costs over and above everyone else in your life, including yourself. 1117 00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:45,532 Your own self-interests take a back seat to your 1118 00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:49,541 dreams and aspirations of what you want to achieve. 1119 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,340 He's had multiple marriages that fell apart. 1120 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,000 He's had multiple friendships that will never be repaired. 1121 00:56:55,500 --> 00:57:00,586 But that's the price you pay to look back on a body of work 1122 00:57:00,587 --> 00:57:05,300 and have everyone else around you say he changed the game. 1123 00:57:07,460 --> 00:57:09,800 Man, I am very demanding. 1124 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:11,760 I was a professional wrestler. 1125 00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:13,380 It's what I lived and died for. 1126 00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:15,220 He took a lot of things. 1127 00:57:15,221 --> 00:57:15,640 He took a lot of things personally. 1128 00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:19,042 He wanted everything to be perfect, and he always wanted 1129 00:57:19,043 --> 00:57:21,301 to be challenged with new information and creative. 1130 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,700 It kept your star happy. 1131 00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:27,760 Keep your talent happy as best you can. 1132 00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:34,400 If you don't build new stars, you can't feed the superstars at the top. 1133 00:57:34,755 --> 00:57:38,971 So when Steve became the big star in the business, he knew 1134 00:57:38,972 --> 00:57:43,280 he needed a fresh rotation of brand-new stars to work with. 1135 00:57:43,730 --> 00:57:48,000 Mr. McMahon couldn't be that equal because once they got into the ring together, 1136 00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:49,540 it wasn't a very good match. 1137 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,045 He needed someone that you could honestly look at and 1138 00:57:55,046 --> 00:57:59,160 say, this guy can measure up to Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1139 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:07,460 If you smell what The Rock is cooking. 1140 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,589 To build an opponent for Stone Cold, that opponent should 1141 00:58:13,590 --> 00:58:16,860 be on TV regularly and go six months without losing. 1142 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,280 Start planting those seeds. 1143 00:58:19,780 --> 00:58:21,184 Can you imagine what this guy is going to 1144 00:58:21,185 --> 00:58:22,720 be like when he takes on Stone Cold someday? 1145 00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:27,340 My first couple of years in the business, I watched this guy, Steve Austin, 1146 00:58:27,620 --> 00:58:32,460 ascend to the top and start to achieve this incredible popularity. 1147 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,980 And I would just quietly watch in the shadows, study his behavior and watch how 1148 00:58:38,981 --> 00:58:42,060 he operated because that was a position that I wanted to be in. 1149 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,720 And I think he knew that. 1150 00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:47,658 I just remember watching him starting to gain momentum, 1151 00:58:47,659 --> 00:58:50,021 starting to establish a relationship with the crowd. 1152 00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:51,300 He's starting to get over. 1153 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,680 There's something here. 1154 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,540 I need to watch this. 1155 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,780 And I remember him saying something to the effect of, there's something there, kid. 1156 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,160 There's something there. 1157 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,580 There was also this bond like he was a big brother in a way. 1158 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,181 And then we knew that we were going to converge 1159 00:59:11,182 --> 00:59:13,660 and that we were going to work together. 1160 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,290 And as far as The Rock is concerned, the greatest 1161 00:59:17,291 --> 00:59:21,700 book ever written is the one titled The Rock vs. 1162 00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:22,940 Stone Cold. 1163 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,120 Steve Austin. 1164 00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:27,640 They were natural together. 1165 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,200 They had great chemistry. 1166 00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:31,980 I think that Steve and Rock liked each other. 1167 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,120 So that helped. 1168 00:59:33,340 --> 00:59:35,940 And they both rode that wave. 1169 00:59:36,340 --> 00:59:36,960 Rock! 1170 00:59:36,961 --> 00:59:37,740 Stone Cold! 1171 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,920 And WrestleMania! 1172 00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:43,962 I love their relationship with The Rock and Steve 1173 00:59:44,022 --> 00:59:46,840 because they were both very, very competitive. 1174 00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:51,060 They were always wondering how the other was feeling, how the other was doing. 1175 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,520 They never left each other's radar. 1176 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,620 They pushed each other. 1177 00:59:55,860 --> 00:59:57,360 They made each other better. 1178 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:02,320 In the world of pro wrestling, you can only control so much. 1179 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,140 And after that, it becomes the intangible. 1180 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,976 I'm right there on the camera. 1181 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,000 He can do it all! 1182 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,920 I'm out of seconds! 1183 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,120 I'm done! 1184 01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:16,920 And that intangible, what everybody searches for, is chemistry. 1185 01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:21,320 I knew exactly what he was going to do all the time. 1186 01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:25,040 He knew exactly what I was going to do all the time. 1187 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,800 That's just kind of the special thing that you just feel. 1188 01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:37,140 It's like watching two comets fly through the sky and hit each other. 1189 01:00:37,141 --> 01:00:38,500 It never happens. 1190 01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:40,460 We know all the metrics! 1191 01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:42,160 I think it was the apex. 1192 01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:43,740 I mean, it was really the peak. 1193 01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:49,260 And Steve Austin and The Rock were the two hottest stars in the business. 1194 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,180 We were fighting for the exact same thing. 1195 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,026 And that was the number one top spot in the 1196 01:00:55,027 --> 01:00:58,241 company at a time where the company was on fire. 1197 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,080 It's really rarefied air. 1198 01:01:00,180 --> 01:01:01,980 And we were fighting for that rarefied air. 1199 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,800 But it was out of so much love and so much respect. 1200 01:01:05,180 --> 01:01:06,760 It kind of was so fun to watch. 1201 01:01:06,761 --> 01:01:08,688 Being privileged to see something like that where 1202 01:01:08,689 --> 01:01:10,340 you have these two big talents coming together. 1203 01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:11,540 It's a new champion! 1204 01:01:14,220 --> 01:01:15,940 Man, that was a great ride. 1205 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,120 Rock and I never rode the roads together. 1206 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,820 He ran with a different crowd. 1207 01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,740 But whenever we see each other, it's just like the last time we left off. 1208 01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:31,800 It's a friendship that is forever. 1209 01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:39,340 That was a guy who looked at me and said, you, you and me, we're gonna go. 1210 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,640 And we're gonna go to the dance. 1211 01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:45,420 That decision to take me, if you will, under his wing, it changed my life. 1212 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,380 Steve's gonna be the first one to tell you that he's got just a core group of friends. 1213 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,180 I mean, he's not gonna just be your best friend just to be your best friend. 1214 01:01:57,010 --> 01:01:58,340 They say it's lonely at the top. 1215 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,660 And I think Steve was pretty lonely. 1216 01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:02,720 I ran with myself. 1217 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,000 I was a lone wolf. 1218 01:02:05,295 --> 01:02:07,500 My place was on top of that roster, on top of that car. 1219 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,360 There's so much jealousy. 1220 01:02:09,620 --> 01:02:13,840 I really love the thing I came up with years ago, DTA, don't trust anybody. 1221 01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:18,320 DTA, don't trust anyone, makes for a good catchphrase. 1222 01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:21,814 I don't know if it's the best way to go through life, but I 1223 01:02:21,815 --> 01:02:25,060 think that is how Steve went through his life at that time. 1224 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,180 The DTA, don't trust anyone thing, that wasn't Steve playing a character. 1225 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,040 Angry, bitter, paranoid. 1226 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,640 Like, there was a lot of that. 1227 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:33,900 Steve's a very private guy. 1228 01:02:33,901 --> 01:02:35,020 He just is. 1229 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,660 He never really talked about his home life. 1230 01:02:38,030 --> 01:02:40,780 Every now and then, he'd tell you something about his family, but for the 1231 01:02:40,781 --> 01:02:42,640 most part, he kept all that stuff to himself. 1232 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,100 People have always asked me about my daughters. 1233 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,340 In the past, I haven't talked too much about them. 1234 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,520 And it's because of the strained relationship 1235 01:02:51,521 --> 01:02:54,081 that it was and me being gone all the time. 1236 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,780 I never won father of the year because I'm purely on the road. 1237 01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:03,440 If I'm gonna come home from my two days off every now and then, I'm gonna cook 1238 01:03:03,441 --> 01:03:05,241 some flank steaks on the grill and drink beer. 1239 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,840 That's as much as I'm contributing. 1240 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,020 I hate to say that, that's the way it was. 1241 01:03:10,820 --> 01:03:13,140 They knew that I loved them, but I wasn't there. 1242 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,880 Back in 2001, my wife took the kids over to England to visit her side of the family. 1243 01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:26,361 9-11 happened, and then that's when everybody 1244 01:03:26,373 --> 01:03:28,280 was, or at least she was afraid to fly. 1245 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,760 They kind of stayed over there. 1246 01:03:29,820 --> 01:03:33,180 I was always gone anyway, so what's the big deal? 1247 01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:35,740 So they stayed over there, and they kept staying over there. 1248 01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:40,000 And as time went on, well, I called Stephanie just to talk to them, 1249 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,860 and we started talking, and she had a proper London accent. 1250 01:03:45,180 --> 01:03:48,179 When I hung up the phone, I started crying like a 1251 01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:51,120 baby because she used to sound exactly like I do. 1252 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,680 For better or for worse, without the four letter words, she had my same accent. 1253 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,400 And to hear her with an English accent, yeah, that shook me up because I was like, 1254 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,620 okay, what did I do wrong? 1255 01:04:03,621 --> 01:04:04,741 Or could I have done better? 1256 01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:07,840 That's the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so. 1257 01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:13,480 Now that they're older, we're on the way to building better relationships. 1258 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,980 So now they're pursuing their own things. 1259 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,200 I support them. 1260 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,520 If I can give them any advice, I do. 1261 01:04:20,205 --> 01:04:24,940 Through all the BS that has happened, we're talking now, the relationships, 1262 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,620 as strained as they were, they're better now, but it's still a building block 1263 01:04:28,621 --> 01:04:33,600 because truly, after all these years, we still don't know each other. 1264 01:04:33,620 --> 01:04:35,080 As well as we should. 1265 01:04:35,890 --> 01:04:42,840 That was the Faustian bargain that he cut with himself in order to myopically, 1266 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:49,140 obsessively go after the success that he knew in his heart he could achieve. 1267 01:04:50,350 --> 01:04:54,500 You have to get it while you can and then hope that you can make up for all the 1268 01:04:54,501 --> 01:04:57,209 other stuff that you put on the bottom shelf 1269 01:04:57,221 --> 01:04:59,700 while you went out and lived your dream. 1270 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,596 There's a lot of casualties that come with 1271 01:05:01,597 --> 01:05:03,520 that and you have to be willing to accept that. 1272 01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:05,580 Your window's really small. 1273 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,020 For most guys, it really is a small window. 1274 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,220 He always felt like he was gonna lose his spot in line if he was not on the road. 1275 01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:17,700 I can't be home. 1276 01:05:18,195 --> 01:05:21,880 I gotta be on the road with the rest of the guys because somebody else is gonna 1277 01:05:21,881 --> 01:05:24,540 have a great match, they're gonna be noticed, and I'm not. 1278 01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:28,560 The drive for that, the lust for that, he could never get away from. 1279 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,460 Any time that someone is successful, they have a hands-on approach, 1280 01:05:33,980 --> 01:05:37,504 Steve had a very hands-on approach when it came 1281 01:05:37,505 --> 01:05:41,101 to the presentation of what he was going to do. 1282 01:05:41,180 --> 01:05:46,260 Steve was very demanding, but Steve could be guilty of, this sucks. 1283 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,360 Okay, it sucks, Steve. 1284 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,296 What do you want to do to make it better? 1285 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:50,640 I don't know. 1286 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:51,580 Goddamn, you're a writer. 1287 01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:52,620 Write something. 1288 01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:56,480 Steve would get mad, throw it away, and storm off. 1289 01:05:56,890 --> 01:06:00,440 This was at a time when The Rock was taking a break in Hollywood. 1290 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,720 And Stone Cold Steve Austin needed a new equal. 1291 01:06:04,420 --> 01:06:07,148 Steve would have been very easy to maintain and manage 1292 01:06:07,149 --> 01:06:09,580 if we'd always had a good opponent ready for him. 1293 01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:10,500 And why wouldn't you? 1294 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,200 I think that's what led to a lot of Steve's frustration. 1295 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,080 Complaining about his opponents, you know, complaining who he's working with. 1296 01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:20,300 He wasn't getting red hot billets. 1297 01:06:20,340 --> 01:06:23,260 Nobody's ready, and nobody's been groomed for me. 1298 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,300 The process had failed him. 1299 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,308 When the creative stuff started going south a little bit, it 1300 01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:32,940 had a more profound effect on him than it would a lot of guys. 1301 01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,820 Because he felt like this foundation was starting to crack. 1302 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:38,500 I was like, dude, what is going on here? 1303 01:06:38,980 --> 01:06:42,420 When you've been trying so hard so long to be that guy and you get that chance, 1304 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,720 you ain't letting it go. 1305 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,100 I found out what creative had in mind for Steve and Brock Lesnar. 1306 01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:49,600 And I confirmed it with Vince. 1307 01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:52,820 Oh, you're going to work with Brock tonight and you're going to lose. 1308 01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:55,033 And it certainly was very premature to try to 1309 01:06:55,034 --> 01:06:58,001 have Steve and Brock wrestle with no buildup. 1310 01:06:58,275 --> 01:07:01,260 This is a match that can sell out indoor stadiums. 1311 01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:03,200 But there's no story there. 1312 01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:04,900 It was thrown together. 1313 01:07:05,860 --> 01:07:07,380 And it meant nothing. 1314 01:07:07,875 --> 01:07:10,115 Jim Ross calls me with the creative for Monday Night Raw. 1315 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,060 Tells me, long story short, that I'm doing a job for Brock Lesnar. 1316 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,360 I said, oh really? 1317 01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:17,540 I said, well, if that's going to be the case, I ain't going to be there. 1318 01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:19,080 So sure enough, I woke up. 1319 01:07:19,180 --> 01:07:20,740 I had two Bloody Marys. 1320 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,960 Got on an airplane and I was flying back to San Antonio. 1321 01:07:24,260 --> 01:07:25,260 And I was mad. 1322 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,760 It ain't about winning or losing. 1323 01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:28,340 I'll let anybody beat me. 1324 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,340 As long as it's for a reason, it means something. 1325 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,060 And there's money behind it. 1326 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,020 And so I said, I ain't doing it. 1327 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,740 And I went home. 1328 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:36,460 It was over. 1329 01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:37,340 I was done. 1330 01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:41,240 And it cost me a lot of respect from my peers, a lot of money. 1331 01:07:41,380 --> 01:07:42,380 And that's what I did. 1332 01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:44,680 And as they said it, I took my ball and went home. 1333 01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:50,300 It felt like you kicked everybody in their co-unions. 1334 01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:50,740 You know? 1335 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,700 It felt like all of a sudden, wait a minute. 1336 01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:54,670 What is wrong with him? 1337 01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:55,820 How is he thinking this way? 1338 01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:59,000 To his credit, Vince called me three times. 1339 01:07:59,001 --> 01:08:00,840 He left me a voice message each time. 1340 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,000 I never called him back. 1341 01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:03,796 I didn't want to talk to him on the phone. 1342 01:08:03,820 --> 01:08:04,820 I was still hot. 1343 01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:10,640 And for about six months, I was hunting, fishing and drinking and not necessarily 1344 01:08:10,641 --> 01:08:13,200 in that order and making a lot of bad decisions. 1345 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,580 You know, just time was going by. 1346 01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:21,720 Finally, I'm going through my mail. 1347 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,160 There's a card from Jim Ross. 1348 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:26,060 I didn't expect a card from Jim Ross. 1349 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,160 Hey, man. 1350 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,540 Just checking on you. 1351 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,160 I want to see if you're okay. 1352 01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:32,460 If you ever want to talk, give me a call. 1353 01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:36,920 And I felt right then that that was my friend throwing me a lifeline. 1354 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,400 I called him up. 1355 01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:40,636 It was back when they had those old Motorola flip phones. 1356 01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:42,460 I burned through two batteries talking to Jim. 1357 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,660 We did speak for hours. 1358 01:08:44,740 --> 01:08:49,100 Life, football, you know, booking, marriage, relationships. 1359 01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:50,940 Boy, he really needed to talk. 1360 01:08:51,780 --> 01:08:54,376 He goes, hey, man, do you think if I ever put you in the old man or the building, 1361 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,000 you can hash this out and put it behind you and come back to work? 1362 01:08:57,780 --> 01:08:58,980 I said, I'd love that. 1363 01:08:58,981 --> 01:09:02,640 He facilitated the meeting between myself and Vince. 1364 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,360 And I'm thinking, man, we're gonna fight or hug. 1365 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,180 We started talking. 1366 01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:11,960 We hashed it out. 1367 01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:13,340 I told him what I was thinking. 1368 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,700 And we got back on the same track. 1369 01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,940 And then shortly thereafter, I returned to work. 1370 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,620 It's good to see you. 1371 01:09:20,660 --> 01:09:21,660 Very good. 1372 01:09:24,020 --> 01:09:27,000 When I did come back, I knew what I'd done. 1373 01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:31,040 So I remember going up to basically the whole locker room. 1374 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,040 Yeah, I apologized to a lot of guys. 1375 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,120 And it was warranted. 1376 01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:42,980 Well, Stone Cold Steve Austin is back. 1377 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,147 I can guarantee you that I am gonna raise more 1378 01:09:46,148 --> 01:09:49,760 hell in this ring than I've ever raised in my life. 1379 01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:59,620 I came back for a few months, but, man, it's a hard-ass job. 1380 01:10:01,180 --> 01:10:03,874 I was backstage with Bruce Prichard one time, 1381 01:10:03,875 --> 01:10:06,901 and I just kept having this nerve jump in my leg. 1382 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,260 And it was just like everything in my nervous system was so shot. 1383 01:10:10,665 --> 01:10:13,288 You know, the atrophy in my hands and other things that I 1384 01:10:13,328 --> 01:10:16,820 was going through was, like, finally starting to unwind me. 1385 01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:19,420 It's like, dude, when is your body gonna give you enough 1386 01:10:19,421 --> 01:10:21,481 signals that you need to get your ass out of here? 1387 01:10:21,790 --> 01:10:28,240 The feeling was basically that he had pushed the limits as far as he could and 1388 01:10:28,241 --> 01:10:30,761 that it was time to... he didn't want to push him anymore. 1389 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,280 And I think Steve just saw the writing on the wall. 1390 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,032 I can't imagine how agonizing it was for Steve 1391 01:10:38,033 --> 01:10:42,221 to make the decision that his career was over. 1392 01:10:43,090 --> 01:10:47,040 He had to resign himself to the fact this is as far as the character goes. 1393 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,556 Now, the question then would become, who 1394 01:10:50,557 --> 01:10:52,460 will he wrestle and what will be the outcome? 1395 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,740 Steve, being an old-school guy, wanted to go out the right way. 1396 01:10:57,260 --> 01:10:58,540 He wanted to be Rock. 1397 01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:00,560 He owed it to Rock. 1398 01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:03,800 But he didn't want to distract from the Rock 1399 01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:06,761 getting a win by him saying this is his last match. 1400 01:11:06,980 --> 01:11:08,820 So we kept that confidential. 1401 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,540 It was a professional thing to do. 1402 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,460 And it shows great love and respect for Dwayne. 1403 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,356 It's bigger than wrestling. 1404 01:11:17,380 --> 01:11:17,980 I just like The Rock. 1405 01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:20,480 And so I didn't tell hardly anybody at all. 1406 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,400 Obviously, Vince knew, Jim Ross knew. 1407 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,460 And I told The Rock. 1408 01:11:25,420 --> 01:11:28,529 When I found out that his last match was going 1409 01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:31,981 to be with me, I had really mixed emotions. 1410 01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:38,780 You know, we hugged, and it makes me a little emotional now because it is the 1411 01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:45,046 ending of a career that has been so influential on 1412 01:11:45,047 --> 01:11:49,240 not only me, but the world of wrestling that we love. 1413 01:11:49,460 --> 01:11:50,600 It hurt to walk away. 1414 01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:52,660 It was a real tough decision to make. 1415 01:11:53,020 --> 01:11:55,540 But I just figured it was the best decision for me. 1416 01:11:58,870 --> 01:12:04,511 I think the days leading into it, to WrestleMania 19, were miserable for him. 1417 01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:06,770 How am I going to do? 1418 01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:07,990 How am I going to deliver? 1419 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:09,630 What are the people going to say? 1420 01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:10,950 How do I look? 1421 01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:13,730 The day before WrestleMania, I was at the gym. 1422 01:12:14,730 --> 01:12:17,730 This was at a time where I was drinking about three bottles of wine a night, 1423 01:12:18,090 --> 01:12:20,255 two pots of coffee in the morning to get up, 1424 01:12:20,256 --> 01:12:23,291 and a bunch of energy drinks to get you going. 1425 01:12:23,770 --> 01:12:24,490 Really dehydrated. 1426 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,610 Man, my feet kept jumping, just nervous reactions. 1427 01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:29,310 I was like, man, what is going on? 1428 01:12:30,190 --> 01:12:32,790 And I was staying at the Grand Hyatt Hotel there in Seattle. 1429 01:12:34,235 --> 01:12:36,210 And I went up to the floor that I was on. 1430 01:12:36,270 --> 01:12:40,270 As soon as I got out of the elevator, man, my heart started beating out of my 1431 01:12:40,271 --> 01:12:43,810 chest so hard and fast, it scared the out of me. 1432 01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:46,246 And I was thinking, man, I'm dying. 1433 01:12:46,270 --> 01:12:47,450 I just got my number called. 1434 01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:48,530 I'm gone. 1435 01:12:48,850 --> 01:12:52,190 And there was a WWE employee named Liz DeFabio coming down the hallway. 1436 01:12:52,750 --> 01:12:54,954 And I looked at her, and she could see that I was 1437 01:12:55,054 --> 01:12:56,910 as serious as a heart attack, no pun intended. 1438 01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:58,530 And I said, Liz, I'm in trouble. 1439 01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:04,430 They take me down to the emergency room, and they put all these tests on me. 1440 01:13:04,590 --> 01:13:06,550 They thought I had a pulmonary embolism. 1441 01:13:06,610 --> 01:13:07,990 They thought a bunch of things. 1442 01:13:08,170 --> 01:13:13,450 And the thing was that I was just basically dehydrated, drinking too much 1443 01:13:13,451 --> 01:13:18,650 alcohol and way too much caffeine, and finally, you know, it was time to stop. 1444 01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:20,230 So Vince and I were there. 1445 01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:21,450 He put too much on himself. 1446 01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:22,570 He worried too much. 1447 01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:24,130 He overthought the situation. 1448 01:13:26,690 --> 01:13:28,270 So I woke up the next morning. 1449 01:13:28,271 --> 01:13:29,910 The doctor didn't want to discharge me. 1450 01:13:29,970 --> 01:13:31,246 He wouldn't clear me to wrestle. 1451 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:33,790 But I was going to wrestle, and I was going to wrestle The Rock. 1452 01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:36,530 Getting to the building... 1453 01:13:36,531 --> 01:13:40,030 I was walking around, seeing everybody going through the motion. 1454 01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:41,230 Hey, Mark. 1455 01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:42,010 Hey, Steve. 1456 01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:43,270 How you doing? 1457 01:13:44,770 --> 01:13:48,650 If I talked to anybody or hardly said anything, I was about to start crying. 1458 01:13:51,130 --> 01:13:55,794 When you're making the decision to walk away from your number-one 1459 01:13:55,795 --> 01:14:00,590 passion that you live for, oh, man, I'll make this go away. 1460 01:14:01,490 --> 01:14:03,390 So I was like this all day long. 1461 01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:07,646 And then, of course, you know, we get ready for the match. 1462 01:14:07,670 --> 01:14:10,006 It's like, okay, man, I'm just going to turn it on, rip it up. 1463 01:14:10,030 --> 01:14:11,350 You know, if your heart explodes. 1464 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,590 If I died in the ring, hey, man, what better place to go than in Mania, 1465 01:14:15,865 --> 01:14:17,505 in the middle of the ring, with The Rock? 1466 01:14:17,950 --> 01:14:21,690 So, you know, you can't plan a better death than that. 1467 01:14:24,970 --> 01:14:26,770 The Rock said he was going to confront... 1468 01:14:27,710 --> 01:14:29,270 Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1469 01:14:33,070 --> 01:14:34,430 I take it all in. 1470 01:14:34,710 --> 01:14:36,050 I feel everything. 1471 01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:38,550 And I sense everything. 1472 01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:43,370 The smell, the feel, the love, the tone of that building. 1473 01:14:48,510 --> 01:14:51,572 It ain't about nothing but a wrestling match between 1474 01:14:51,573 --> 01:14:53,931 two of the greatest that have ever been in the ring. 1475 01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:56,030 Oh, hell! 1476 01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:57,050 That's a two-slide! 1477 01:14:57,090 --> 01:14:57,730 Oh, my God! 1478 01:14:58,110 --> 01:14:59,550 And The Rock, is he going to do it? 1479 01:14:59,670 --> 01:15:00,670 Big one! 1480 01:15:00,710 --> 01:15:01,310 Oh, God! 1481 01:15:01,410 --> 01:15:02,410 Rock got him! 1482 01:15:02,530 --> 01:15:04,350 I burned Rock got him! 1483 01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:05,750 I hooked up a leg! 1484 01:15:06,130 --> 01:15:07,450 And I hit the line! 1485 01:15:10,030 --> 01:15:13,590 When that three-count hit, it was like... 1486 01:15:15,670 --> 01:15:17,390 I was just laying there. 1487 01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:21,270 It was like someone lifted 1,000 pounds of bricks off my back. 1488 01:15:23,380 --> 01:15:25,020 Damn near 70,000 people in that building. 1489 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,920 A couple men watching on pay-per-view. 1490 01:15:27,550 --> 01:15:29,350 We were both laying in the middle of the ring. 1491 01:15:31,410 --> 01:15:33,050 And I sat up. 1492 01:15:33,890 --> 01:15:37,170 And I remember I pushed the referee, Earl Hebner, away. 1493 01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:39,890 He knew that I was going. 1494 01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:42,750 He knew that I didn't want to go. 1495 01:15:43,370 --> 01:15:45,090 And this was a hard decision for me to make. 1496 01:15:45,650 --> 01:15:50,840 I lowered my head down to Steve's ear and I said, I 1497 01:15:50,841 --> 01:15:54,330 can't thank you enough for everything that you have done. 1498 01:15:56,230 --> 01:15:57,350 And then I said, I love you. 1499 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,210 I remember just laying there in front of 70,000 men. 1500 01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:02,470 I said, man, I love you too. 1501 01:16:06,270 --> 01:16:07,690 I told him I loved him. 1502 01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:10,270 Verbatim, I said, I love you too. 1503 01:16:10,485 --> 01:16:14,184 Two big-ass, tough-ass guys telling each other that 1504 01:16:14,185 --> 01:16:16,971 they loved the other one in front of millions of people. 1505 01:16:17,410 --> 01:16:19,810 I felt like that was the time to tell. 1506 01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:28,010 Because there is no other moment in our world where we are as raw and open and 1507 01:16:28,011 --> 01:16:30,530 vulnerable than in that moment right there. 1508 01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:34,710 When the one, two, three happens, it's just two 1509 01:16:34,711 --> 01:16:37,171 men who have gone on this incredible journey. 1510 01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:39,770 You know, I have goosebumps now thinking about it. 1511 01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:43,050 That was the moment to say, man, I love you. 1512 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:44,410 And I can't thank you enough. 1513 01:16:48,490 --> 01:16:53,510 What makes Steve's career different than most others is just how hot he got, 1514 01:16:53,730 --> 01:16:59,070 how fast he got hot, and how short of a time he had to enjoy it. 1515 01:16:59,610 --> 01:17:04,250 I was seeing the end as something that will never be replicated. 1516 01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:11,651 Seeing the end of a moment in a pop culture genre that will never be reproduced. 1517 01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:13,670 Now I can go enjoy. 1518 01:17:14,410 --> 01:17:16,410 That's the kind of life that I have in front of me. 1519 01:17:19,330 --> 01:17:21,970 You know, retirement always sounds good, and then there I was. 1520 01:17:22,090 --> 01:17:23,050 I was doing nothing. 1521 01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:24,070 I was going crazy. 1522 01:17:27,390 --> 01:17:29,570 Straight up, man, I hit the bottle pretty hard. 1523 01:17:33,710 --> 01:17:39,610 I do know that he was a bit lost after, you know, having to leave the business, 1524 01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:43,450 trying to redefine himself and see what is life after wrestling. 1525 01:17:45,470 --> 01:17:49,751 He had three years that he talked about how he was just 1526 01:17:49,752 --> 01:17:52,550 drinking and eating and just a little bit depressed. 1527 01:17:56,090 --> 01:17:57,370 I'll tell you this true story. 1528 01:17:57,950 --> 01:18:00,246 Woke up one morning, I was looking right at myself in the mirror. 1529 01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:06,531 I said, dude, the things that you are doing are not conducive to living a long life. 1530 01:18:06,610 --> 01:18:08,410 You better straighten your ass up. 1531 01:18:08,990 --> 01:18:12,876 It took me three years of being a up to come 1532 01:18:12,877 --> 01:18:15,490 to my senses to say, you know, you know what? 1533 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:17,150 You had to quit the business. 1534 01:18:17,630 --> 01:18:19,130 You ain't doing nothing now. 1535 01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:21,390 You better get your ass out to L.A. 1536 01:18:21,410 --> 01:18:24,301 and try to capitalize on at least, you know, some part 1537 01:18:24,302 --> 01:18:27,010 of the name that you spent so long trying to build up. 1538 01:18:28,090 --> 01:18:29,590 Look at me, you piece of trash. 1539 01:18:30,750 --> 01:18:33,146 I heard you been running around saying you could take me in a fight. 1540 01:18:33,170 --> 01:18:34,170 I wouldn't say that. 1541 01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:36,310 Let's get busy, Hollywood. 1542 01:18:37,690 --> 01:18:40,750 And initially, I came out to California to get into acting. 1543 01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:43,670 I quickly realized that I didn't really want to do that. 1544 01:18:43,671 --> 01:18:46,602 And when I found hosting and reality television-type 1545 01:18:46,603 --> 01:18:48,971 stuff, that's when I knew I'd kind of found my niche. 1546 01:18:49,570 --> 01:18:51,110 I'm Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1547 01:18:51,370 --> 01:18:52,390 Jerry the King Lawler. 1548 01:18:52,510 --> 01:18:54,350 My next guest on Brumpet Skull Sessions. 1549 01:18:54,490 --> 01:18:55,230 Check it out. 1550 01:18:55,310 --> 01:18:57,870 And that's the bottom line, because I said so. 1551 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,775 And so I started podcasting, and the reason 1552 01:19:02,776 --> 01:19:05,521 I started was just keeping touch with people. 1553 01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:08,068 I guess it was just all built on the history 1554 01:19:08,069 --> 01:19:10,761 of what I put forth inside the squared circle. 1555 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,040 He's got podcasts that he does. 1556 01:19:14,041 --> 01:19:15,680 He's got TV shows he hosts. 1557 01:19:15,780 --> 01:19:19,080 I would say the biggest difference between the Stone Cold we see now and the Stone 1558 01:19:19,081 --> 01:19:21,600 Cold we saw back then, he doesn't have the pressure. 1559 01:19:24,260 --> 01:19:25,320 I'm a civilian now. 1560 01:19:25,740 --> 01:19:28,780 It took me a while to turn into a civilian, but I'm a civilian now. 1561 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,840 My problem is, man, I'm type-A personality. 1562 01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:33,480 So I'm always in a hurry. 1563 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,520 I'm in a hurry when I don't have anything to do. 1564 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,080 This is Brownie. 1565 01:19:37,140 --> 01:19:39,460 Our chocolate lab we rescued about three weeks ago. 1566 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,120 These are my Kawasaki KRX 1000s. 1567 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:43,740 This is my Corvette. 1568 01:19:43,741 --> 01:19:44,741 This is a KLX 450. 1569 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,060 This truck right here is a 1966 Chevy C2. 1570 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:51,260 I'm not a wrestler anymore. 1571 01:19:51,460 --> 01:19:52,680 I had a good time doing it. 1572 01:19:52,980 --> 01:19:55,300 But at the end of the day, now it's about life. 1573 01:20:06,530 --> 01:20:10,390 You step through the curtain, you're in front of the paying customer. 1574 01:20:11,190 --> 01:20:15,470 And that's where you gotta be the person they perceive you to be on television. 1575 01:20:16,530 --> 01:20:17,530 You're 1576 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,631 that person from the first step through the curtain 1577 01:20:36,632 --> 01:20:39,341 until the last step back through the curtain. 1578 01:20:40,180 --> 01:20:41,740 You're a performer out there. 1579 01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:46,490 Talk about your songs. 1580 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:48,350 Talk about John 316. 1581 01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:52,430 Austin 316 says, I just whipped your ass. 1582 01:20:55,330 --> 01:20:56,410 Austin did it! 1583 01:20:56,530 --> 01:20:57,530 Austin did it! 1584 01:20:58,030 --> 01:21:02,190 Nobody tells Stone Cold Steve Austin what to do. 1585 01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:04,670 And that's the bottom line. 1586 01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:08,190 Because Stone Cold says so. 1587 01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:14,150 When you come back through the curtain, you're out. 1588 01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:18,940 And those human beings are worried at that moment when 1589 01:21:18,941 --> 01:21:21,590 they've stepped back through the curtain, was I good? 1590 01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:23,330 Did they like me? 1591 01:21:24,210 --> 01:21:25,470 Did I do all I could do? 1592 01:21:25,670 --> 01:21:27,410 Did I maximize my minutes? 1593 01:21:29,330 --> 01:21:32,030 Coming back through, it's where the rubber meets the road. 1594 01:21:34,330 --> 01:21:35,730 That curtain is a big thing. 1595 01:21:36,090 --> 01:21:39,890 And how you navigate the curtain and how you react on both sides of it largely 1596 01:21:39,891 --> 01:21:42,790 spells your success in the pro wrestling business. 1597 01:21:44,710 --> 01:21:47,617 Look, I got placed in a real good situation and I got 1598 01:21:47,618 --> 01:21:50,690 a chance to have a lot of fun doing something I love. 1599 01:21:51,470 --> 01:21:54,550 But, like, I still feel like I'm sitting here in this damn chair and I'm still 1600 01:21:54,750 --> 01:21:56,050 Steve, the dude from Edna. 1601 01:21:57,610 --> 01:22:00,530 In my mind and in my eyes, that's me. 136316

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