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the people are represented
the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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He's got it in for me
is all I'm saying.
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He don't got it in for you.
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He's starting to make
me look bad to Hector.
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Hector's
smart enough
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to see Alex is just talking trash.
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All due respect to Hector,
I got my doubts.
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Just once I'd like
to come in here
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without some jerkweed
causing a dust-up.
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Yeah, this stuff's getting old.
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Holy...
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This guy's hurt bad.
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Get some help.
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Somebody call 911.
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35 years my family
owns this place.
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Plenty of fights,
but nobody ever got killed.
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You see what happened?
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I hear shouts, I look over,
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I saw one guy swing a bottle
and the other guy goes down.
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The guy who was swinging,
what did he look like?
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Kind of average.
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Height? Weight? Age?
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Middle-aged.
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Brown hair.
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Inch or two shy
of six feet, maybe.
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You know, average.
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Any of you seen this average dude in here
before?
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Nope. First timers,
the two of 'em.
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The other guy, the one who got
his head cracked?
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I could swear I've seen
him somewhere before.
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Me, too.
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But not in here?
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Nah.
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Anybody see how
it started?
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It-it was like all
of a sudden,
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you know out of the blue.
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This one guy starts bashing
the other guy's head in.
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I tried to tackle him, but...
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And that's how
you got the eye?
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He was a lot stronger
than he looked.
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All right. Be sure
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to give your home number
to the officer.
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So, what do we got?
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Depressed skull fracture.
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Glass shards in the wound.
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Victim was struck
with a blunt object.
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Yeah, a liquor bottle.
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Your murder weapon.
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Or what's left of it.
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Well, maybe Latent
can get a print anyway.
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Have CSU gather as much
of that as they can.
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You'd be better off
with all the king's horses
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and all the king's men.
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Brendan Donner.
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I thought he looked familiar.
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Not to me.
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I'm drawing a blank. Who is he?
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Public enemy number one.
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At least in this city.
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League championship series,
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this dude goes
for a foul ball,
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cost us the game
and the pennant.
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We're talking
about baseball?
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Yeah. Instead
of being the third out,
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the batter draws a walk.
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Next guy up hits
a two-run homer,
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and it's wait till next year,
again.
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Looks like somebody was pissed
off about waiting.
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Wait a minute.
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You're telling me
this guy got killed
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cause he reached
for a foul ball?
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And the suspect list is the
greater New York phone book.
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Captioning sponsored by
UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION
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...AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY
THE STYLISH 2004 TOYOTA CAMRY.
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GET THE FEELING.
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I can't believe somebody
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killed him
over a stupid game.
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We're not sure yet
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that that's why your husband
was murdered, Mrs. Donner.
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But it's a pretty
good bet, right?
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I mean, what other reason
could there be?
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People treated Brendan like
he was Osama Bin Laden.
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As if any one of them
wouldn't have tried
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to catch that damn ball.
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Did you take any
of those threats
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more seriously
than others?
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I mean, is there anyone
in particular
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we should be looking at?
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Just half of New York.
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Poor Brendan.
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He was obsessed.
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He read every letter,
surfed the Internet,
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watched all the talk shows...
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I'm telling you something,
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that game ruined our lives.
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We'd like to look through your
husband's things if we could.
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We separated
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four months ago.
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He moved out.
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Said there was no reason
why I should take
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the brunt for what he did.
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Sorry.
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We're going to need to get
into his new place.
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The papers should publish
separate listings
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for the soon-to-be-divorced.
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"Available: crappy studio
apartment
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"with view of airshaft.
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"Emphasis on shaft.
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Also excellent for sleepless
nights and drinking binges."
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And reading
your hate mail.
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"Dear Jagoff.
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"I've been replaying the game
in my mind
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"and I still don't know
what the hell you were thinking,
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you dumb ass son of a bitch."
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That's quality bedtime reading.
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His wife said
he was obsessed.
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There's no forwarding labels
on these.
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They were sent here.
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Wonder how they got
his new address so quick?
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Maybe he can tell us.
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Special Agent
Jeffery Bowerman.
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FBI.
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Donner was getting death threats
from all over the country.
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People mailing him dead rats,
dog crap, you name it.
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When you care enough
to send the very worst.
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The worst was the envelope
full of white powder.
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We were wondering why the FBI
was involved in this.
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Standard procedure for all cases involving
a suspected biological contaminant.
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Which this wasn't.
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Baking soda isn't lethal.
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You never met my ex-wife.
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Well, we went ahead
and seized
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all the letters, cards and
packages anyway, cataloged 'em.
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Wow, a lot of people
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with too much time on
their hands, huh?
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We've got audio, too.
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I tapped Donner's phone
just to be safe.
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For a case like this?
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I felt sorry for him.
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I wanted to go the extra
mile, help the guy out.
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You bet the other team.
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Made out like a bandit.
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Donner may've been a schmuck
to you guys,
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but he was a hero to us.
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Sketch artist came up with
a composite of our suspect.
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Could be anybody.
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How're you doing?
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I'm reading Donner's
hate mail.
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Ed's listening to it.
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Anything interesting?
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They either want to dump him in the East
River,
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throw him off a building
or run him over with a car.
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Not much originality.
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What would you
have done to him?
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Who, me?
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Please. I remember
how mad you were
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after that game.
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And I don't recall
any tears from "Who, me?"
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when the tabloids published
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Donner's address
and phone number.
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Okay, maybe that was
a little bit over the line,
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but the idiot did earn
himself a little grief.
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He tried to catch a ball.
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Which was still
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in play.
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Any real New York fan would've
kept his hands in his pockets.
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Hey, I got something.
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This is from two weeks ago.
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You think I don't know where you
live, Donner?
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You better be watching your
back, Donner,
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'cause one day soon I'm coming
up behind you
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and bash your thick head
until you're dead,
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you moron...
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The FBI traced that call
to a Ted Enwright.
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Sounds promising.
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And the genius called
from his home phone.
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We lost half our pitchers
to free agency.
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Then there's that
whole steroid thing.
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Who knows how that's going
to play out?
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Let's face it.
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Last year was our best
shot and Donner blew it.
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So after stewing
about this all winter,
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you decided it was time
for some payback?
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Hey, all I did
was get drunk one night
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and make a phone call.
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Yeah, and a couple
of nights later,
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Donner gets drunk and
he gets his head smashed in,
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as you promised.
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Come on.
That was just talk.
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How'd you get
his phone number?
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I read it
in the papers.
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No, his new number.
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On the net.
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Everything's on the net.
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Come on, it's all up
on that Web site--
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www.getdonner.com.
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You've got to be kidding me.
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We don't have that much
imagination.
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Six months after the fact,
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the website still gets
30,000 hits a day.
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Most of the stuff is harmless.
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You know, stupid Donner jokes
and whatnot,
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but check it out,
they have a message board.
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"Hey, fellow Donner haters.
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"Think I just saw Donner shoving
his stuff
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"in the back of a moving van.
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Guess his old lady hates him
as much as the rest of us."
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Now, this entry started
a landslide.
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People started writing in
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whenever they saw
Donner on the street,
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or in the subway.
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They called it "Donner Watch."
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Which is how they knew where
to keep sending
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all the hate mail.
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I never thought
I'd hear myself say this,
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but I'm actually starting to
feel real sorry for this dude.
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Hey, we were one out away
from the World Series.
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Yo.
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All right. All right,
we'll be there.
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It's the crime lab.
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They got prints.
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If I were you guys,
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I'd steer clear of Latent
for a while.
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Why, they didn't see
the challenge
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in lifting prints off
a broken bottle?
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Any prints shattered
along with the glass,
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so they're fragmented like
a jigsaw puzzle.
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You guys like jigsaw puzzles?
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I love jigsaw puzzles.
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Want to know
how I solved this one?
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That's why we're here.
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I bought a bottle of the same brand of
scotch,
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filled it with plaster,
then broke it,
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leaving a perfect mold.
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Then I took the glass
from the crime scene
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and glued it on that mold,
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putting each piece
in its proper place.
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Voilà.
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Just like a jigsaw puzzle.
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With the bottle now
reconstituted...
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You could lift the prints.
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Two sets.
I ran them through BCI.
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The first belonged
to a Rooney, James.
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The bartender.
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And owner.
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His prints are on file from when
he applied for a liquor license.
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What about the second set?
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BCI kicked back
a Grimes, Walter.
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Walter Grimes?
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Uh-huh. Here's
the best part...
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Yeah, convicted
of murder second degree
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in the killing
of a young girl.
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Drew 25 to life
at Green Haven.
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Yeah. How'd you know?
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He reads the front page
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of the Times.
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Walter Grimes was released from prison
three months ago.
263
00:08:53,130 --> 00:08:55,690
Walter Grimes.
Born Poughkeepsie, 1964.
264
00:08:56,290 --> 00:08:58,418
Arrested '83, convicted '84.
265
00:08:58,770 --> 00:08:59,610
Second-degree murder.
266
00:08:59,970 --> 00:09:02,070
Victim was Leeanne Testa, 15.
267
00:09:02,450 --> 00:09:03,290
Stabbed to death.
268
00:09:03,370 --> 00:09:04,210
A year ago,
269
00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:05,790
when Grimes finally got
a court order
270
00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:06,849
to test the DNA,
271
00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:09,030
it turned out the blood
that the cops found
272
00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:11,590
on the knife in his apartment
wasn't Leeanne Testa's.
273
00:09:11,970 --> 00:09:13,890
Property still have
the evidence?
274
00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:14,730
ME's office.
275
00:09:14,730 --> 00:09:15,650
This is pre-DNA.
276
00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:16,990
They tested it
for serology.
277
00:09:17,330 --> 00:09:19,749
After the trial, it went to the Medical
Examiner's
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00:09:19,874 --> 00:09:21,030
and never made it back
279
00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:21,530
to the police lab.
280
00:09:21,530 --> 00:09:22,390
It's lucky for Grimes.
281
00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:23,734
The police lab would've
destroyed it
282
00:09:24,090 --> 00:09:25,010
after he got convicted.
283
00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:27,901
So, Grimes didn't kill Testa.
284
00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:29,290
Good for him.
285
00:09:29,490 --> 00:09:31,570
Question is,
did he kill Brendan Donner?
286
00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:33,050
Grimes's prints
are a 12-point match
287
00:09:33,050 --> 00:09:34,010
to the ones on
that liquor bottle.
288
00:09:34,130 --> 00:09:35,410
There are eight people
in that bar
289
00:09:35,610 --> 00:09:37,230
who ID'd him
from a photo array.
290
00:09:37,313 --> 00:09:38,481
They all saw him bash
Donner's skull in.
291
00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:40,650
I'll get an arrest warrant.
292
00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:43,850
We have any idea
where Mr. Grimes is now?
293
00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,770
Department of Corrections
can't compel him
294
00:09:45,810 --> 00:09:46,650
to give an address
295
00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:48,650
because he was exonerated,
not paroled.
296
00:09:49,270 --> 00:09:52,481
Grimes's a jailhouse lawyer
or did he have some help?
297
00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:55,470
Rodney Fallon-- the New York Exoneration
Project.
298
00:09:56,110 --> 00:09:57,950
I'm sure
Mr. Fallon keeps in touch
299
00:09:58,030 --> 00:09:59,330
with his success stories.
300
00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:05,730
So far, the New York Exoneration Project
has gotten
301
00:10:05,870 --> 00:10:07,496
almost 50 innocent
people released,
302
00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:08,950
and we're looking at hundreds of other
cases.
303
00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:11,330
And I'll bet each and every one of them
didn't do it.
304
00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:13,618
Obviously, they're
not all innocent.
305
00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:14,797
But if even
a single one is,
306
00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:15,910
don't you think
it's our obligation
307
00:10:16,110 --> 00:10:16,990
to see to it that
they don't spend
308
00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:18,028
a minute longer in jail?
309
00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:20,590
I'll bet you can count
the number of guys in jail
310
00:10:20,590 --> 00:10:22,690
who are genuinely innocent
on one hand.
311
00:10:22,910 --> 00:10:24,810
You know how many felonies
the average criminal commits
312
00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:26,491
before he gets caught,
let alone convicted?
313
00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:28,470
I'm well aware of
the police statistics.
314
00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:30,170
It's about the same
as the number of times
315
00:10:30,270 --> 00:10:32,450
you speed on the Thruway
without getting a ticket.
316
00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:33,990
So what're you're
saying, Detective,
317
00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:35,830
we shouldn't try
to exonerate defendants
318
00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:37,230
who were wrongly
convicted?
319
00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:38,106
Yeah, sure we should try,
320
00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:39,690
but just don't tell me
they're all innocent.
321
00:10:39,950 --> 00:10:42,119
Gentlemen, can we talk
about Walter Grimes, please?
322
00:10:43,270 --> 00:10:44,770
An outright travesty
of justice.
323
00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:47,820
His lawyer was a 25-year-old
legal aid attorney
324
00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,260
trying his third case.
325
00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,520
Oh, he caught a bad break.
326
00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,940
That alone should've
got him a new trial.
327
00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,620
DNA proved he didn't kill
Leeanne Testa.
328
00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,100
Which won't
happen this time.
329
00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,444
Look, we may not have DNA,
330
00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,500
but we got your client's
fingerprints on the bottle
331
00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:02,660
he used to fracture
Brendan Donner's skull.
332
00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,060
We don't know
what happened that night.
333
00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,420
Maybe Walter
was defending himself.
334
00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,306
Why don't we ask him ourselves?
335
00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,160
Yeah, where we can find him?
336
00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,411
We've got a warrant
for his arrest.
337
00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,360
I'd rather you didn't speak
338
00:11:10,486 --> 00:11:11,487
to Walter if I'm not present.
339
00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,968
What, are you still
his lawyer?
340
00:11:13,051 --> 00:11:14,000
If you have a warrant, I am.
341
00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,480
Then you should know
you have an obligation
342
00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,840
to surrender your client.
343
00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,600
I know what my obligations are.
344
00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,080
Then you won't mind
345
00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,080
giving us his address.
346
00:11:26,835 --> 00:11:27,878
Open up!
347
00:11:29,129 --> 00:11:30,255
Hey, did you hear that?
348
00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:32,520
I don't hear
nothing.
349
00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,800
Yeah, it sounded like
a plaintive cry for help
350
00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,820
coming from this apartment.
351
00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:37,400
Open the door.
352
00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,880
You say so.
353
00:11:40,495 --> 00:11:42,080
Mr. Grimes?
354
00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,260
He's ain't here.
355
00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:49,140
Hey, Ed, you always leave
your phone book out?
356
00:11:49,140 --> 00:11:50,520
Only if I've
been using it.
357
00:11:50,603 --> 00:11:52,021
Yeah.
358
00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,180
It's an old P.I. trick.
359
00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:55,460
If you had it open
to a certain page,
360
00:11:55,460 --> 00:11:56,560
it bends the spine.
361
00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:00,067
It'll open there.
362
00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:02,860
Hotels. Some cheaper
than others.
363
00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:04,584
Where do we start?
364
00:12:05,140 --> 00:12:07,000
At the bottom and
work our way up, I guess.
365
00:12:11,755 --> 00:12:13,840
Oh, yeah, I remember this guy.
366
00:12:13,924 --> 00:12:15,008
He was here.
Was?
367
00:12:15,133 --> 00:12:17,010
Checked out
earlier today.
368
00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:18,627
About 4:00
this afternoon.
369
00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:20,780
Six hours ago.
370
00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:22,140
Now, that's a hell
of a coincidence.
371
00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:24,475
No wonder Fallon gave up
Grimes' address so easy.
372
00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:26,100
Yeah, he knew Grimes
wasn't going to be home,
373
00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:27,660
and he drops a dime
to his favorite client
374
00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:29,640
as soon as we're out
the door. Lawyers.
375
00:12:30,020 --> 00:12:31,240
This is me
being surprised.
376
00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:33,780
You asked me where Walter lived,
377
00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:34,940
I gave you
his primary residence.
378
00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:36,546
Hey, man, don't get smart
with us!
379
00:12:36,580 --> 00:12:37,420
I wouldn't dream of it.
380
00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:38,260
You couldn't keep up.
381
00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:40,340
All right, let's all just
take it down a notch.
382
00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:44,682
Mr. Fallon, this is way past
zealous representation here.
383
00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:46,010
I can't tell you where he went.
384
00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:47,770
It's arguably privileged
information.
385
00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:51,906
Well, consider it negotiating
a fugitive's peaceful surrender.
386
00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:56,110
I'll get him to come in.
387
00:12:56,350 --> 00:12:58,050
Not a chance.
I have no idea
388
00:12:58,230 --> 00:13:00,070
what he's capable of
if he feels threatened.
389
00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:02,530
I can do this.
390
00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:04,190
He trusts me.
391
00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:07,580
All right.
You've got two hours.
392
00:13:07,950 --> 00:13:09,830
Either we're going
to arrest him for murder
393
00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:12,090
or you for hindering
prosecution.
394
00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:15,650
He'll be here, I promise.
395
00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:21,790
Tell me you didn't just agree
396
00:13:21,950 --> 00:13:23,530
to what I think
you just agreed to.
397
00:13:23,655 --> 00:13:25,991
Please.
398
00:13:28,630 --> 00:13:30,390
I'm starting to get a bad feeling
about this.
399
00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:33,915
How long's Fallon been in there?
400
00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:34,790
45 minutes.
401
00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:36,510
It's long enough
to either talk Grimes down
402
00:13:36,630 --> 00:13:37,910
or book him
a flight to Brazil.
403
00:13:38,590 --> 00:13:39,430
That's right.
Let's go.
404
00:13:54,824 --> 00:13:55,784
Mr. Fallon.
405
00:13:57,050 --> 00:13:58,390
Looks like you put up
a hell of a fight.
406
00:13:58,970 --> 00:13:59,810
Where's your client?
407
00:14:00,290 --> 00:14:01,430
And the first words out
of your mouth
408
00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:02,410
better not be "privileged."
409
00:14:02,535 --> 00:14:03,495
He's not here.
410
00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:05,353
I can see that.
So where is he?
411
00:14:05,478 --> 00:14:07,650
You said you weren't going to interfere.
412
00:14:07,650 --> 00:14:09,530
You said you were gonna bring
Grimes in.
413
00:14:09,650 --> 00:14:11,350
Looks like we both failed
on our promises.
414
00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:13,269
I tried to convince him
to turn himself in
415
00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:14,249
to the authorities
for his own good,
416
00:14:14,530 --> 00:14:16,090
but he was in no mood
to go back to prison.
417
00:14:16,410 --> 00:14:17,453
How long
has he been gone?
418
00:14:17,537 --> 00:14:18,704
Oh, ten minutes.
419
00:14:19,090 --> 00:14:20,810
Did he say
where he was going?
420
00:14:20,810 --> 00:14:23,150
And don't forget what we said about that
word "privilege."
421
00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:27,450
He took my wallet.
422
00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:29,850
Said he needed to get
to his cousin's in Providence.
423
00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:44,280
Hey! Police!
Don't move!
424
00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:46,911
Grimes, hold it right there!
425
00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:48,260
Stop right there!
426
00:14:48,283 --> 00:14:49,409
Grimes!
427
00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:51,360
Take it easy.
All right.
428
00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:53,620
I'm not going back there!
I'm not going back there.
429
00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:55,020
I'll die before I go back there!
430
00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:56,080
Just let the lady go.
431
00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:57,900
Keep away from me.
432
00:14:58,020 --> 00:14:58,900
Let's talk this over.
433
00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:00,798
Look, no gun, okay?
434
00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:02,820
Look, I know
435
00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:03,960
you were
innocent before.
436
00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:05,240
I just want to talk to you.
437
00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:06,500
Let the lady go, please.
438
00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:07,340
All right?
439
00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:08,640
Just let her go
and we can talk.
440
00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:12,060
It's over, man.
Let her go, Grimes, now!
441
00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:18,600
I can't go back there.
442
00:15:18,683 --> 00:15:20,184
I can't.
443
00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:27,940
Judge Hinkle
didn't think twice
444
00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:29,200
about remanding Grimes.
445
00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,140
After holding
a woman hostage,
446
00:15:31,140 --> 00:15:31,980
I should hope not.
447
00:15:32,085 --> 00:15:33,462
Rodney Fallon.
448
00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:36,089
Pleasure.
449
00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:39,640
I don't think
Mr. Grimes is eligible
450
00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,680
for the Exoneration
Project's services
451
00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,820
this time,
Mr. Fallon.
452
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,414
Well, I don't see
why he wouldn't be.
453
00:15:44,563 --> 00:15:45,403
Walter is innocent.
454
00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:46,404
Then can he
455
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,780
explain his fingerprints
on the murder weapon
456
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,959
and the eyewitnesses
at the bar?
457
00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,600
Or his behavior
458
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,926
when he saw two
NYPD detectives?
459
00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,660
Taking a hostage isn't exactly
consistent with innocence.
460
00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,171
Well, that depends on
how you define innocence.
461
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,453
I'd define
an innocent person
462
00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,020
as someone who didn't
commit the crime.
463
00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,840
Or someone whom
the law recognizes
464
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,880
should not be held responsible
for his actions.
465
00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,580
A defendant can't be convicted
466
00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,400
if he didn't act with
mens rea-- criminal intent.
467
00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,500
He brained a man
with a liquor bottle.
468
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,360
Walter Grimes was convicted
of a crime he didn't commit.
469
00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,534
If he hadn't gone
to prison for 20 years,
470
00:16:20,618 --> 00:16:21,680
as an innocent man,
471
00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,140
he never would have
attacked Brendan Donner.
472
00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,400
What are you saying,
prison made him do it?
473
00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,240
It certainly
474
00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,880
changed him...
profoundly.
475
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,460
He absolutely wasn't
the same man
476
00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,400
when he
came out.
477
00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,687
I'm sorry the system
failed you, Mr. Grimes,
478
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,320
but a wrongful conviction
479
00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,590
does not earn anyone
a free pass on murder.
480
00:16:38,715 --> 00:16:39,716
You're sorry?
481
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,385
How about
482
00:16:41,970 --> 00:16:43,730
before rushing
to judgment-- again--
483
00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:44,810
you at least
484
00:16:44,810 --> 00:16:47,605
have your shrink evaluate him?
485
00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:48,970
There's no reason
to be anxious.
486
00:16:49,170 --> 00:16:50,630
We're just having
a conversation.
487
00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:52,450
I ain't anxious.
488
00:16:53,050 --> 00:16:54,969
What makes you think
I'm anxious?
489
00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:57,617
Do you know
why you're here?
490
00:16:57,890 --> 00:17:01,102
My lawyer says because of what
happened to me in prison,
491
00:17:01,170 --> 00:17:02,010
I lose control.
492
00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:04,290
What do you think?
493
00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:05,210
I spent 20 years
494
00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:06,950
in prison for something
that I didn't do.
495
00:17:07,130 --> 00:17:08,630
I don't have control
over nothing!
496
00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:12,986
How can I lose
what I don't have?
497
00:17:13,010 --> 00:17:15,570
You're talking about
Leeanne Testa's murder.
498
00:17:15,890 --> 00:17:17,070
Of course that's what
I'm talking about.
499
00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:19,090
The police said
I killed that girl.
500
00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:20,510
I'd never even met her.
501
00:17:20,970 --> 00:17:21,810
They found
a bloody
502
00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:24,850
knife in your apartment
with your fingerprints on it.
503
00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:26,330
They planted that knife.
504
00:17:26,414 --> 00:17:27,374
The police?
505
00:17:27,490 --> 00:17:30,118
Yeah, the police.
I had an alibi.
506
00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,150
They didn't believe me.
507
00:17:33,730 --> 00:17:35,930
But this time,
you did kill someone.
508
00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:38,030
You killed Brendan Donner.
509
00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:41,670
He laid hands on me.
510
00:17:43,030 --> 00:17:46,510
And that justified
killing him?
511
00:17:46,510 --> 00:17:49,221
I bumped into him by accident,
512
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:51,330
but this guy,
he gets all freaky on me--
513
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:52,670
in my face--
514
00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:54,470
telling me the whole
world's against him.
515
00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:56,950
And you thought hitting
him with a bottle
516
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:58,904
was an appropriate response?
517
00:17:59,350 --> 00:18:00,630
I didn't think about it.
518
00:18:01,550 --> 00:18:02,390
He grabbed me.
519
00:18:03,630 --> 00:18:05,710
A guy comes at you,
you don't think twice,
520
00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:06,670
you just put him down.
521
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:09,490
You stop to think about
what to do, you're dead.
522
00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:16,230
Walter Grimes is legally sane.
523
00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:17,070
But?
524
00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:18,870
But I'm sure his lawyer
can find experts
525
00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:20,870
who will say that his
experience in prison
526
00:18:21,070 --> 00:18:22,690
so programmed him,
that he lacked
527
00:18:22,830 --> 00:18:25,490
the ability to appreciate
that his conduct was wrong.
528
00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:26,790
It turned him
into a killer?
529
00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:29,590
Well, they'll argue that
he couldn't differentiate
530
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:31,670
between his old environment
and his new one.
531
00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:33,890
He couldn't tell
the difference
532
00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:35,110
between
Rooney's Tavern
533
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,650
and the exercise yard
at Green Haven?
534
00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:38,693
Exactly.
535
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,680
The defense will get
a gaggle of psychiatrists
536
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,220
to say that Grimes
lacked the ability
537
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,180
to curtail
a lethal instinct
538
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,300
developed by two
decades in prison.
539
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,560
I'd feel sorry for a man
540
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,760
who lost that
much of his life
541
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,860
on a wrongful conviction.
542
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,400
If Fallon gets this
in front of a jury,
543
00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,320
you could have a problem.
544
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,560
You're moving to preclude
545
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,240
this defense, Mr. McCoy?
546
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,640
Your Honor, it's ridiculous.
547
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,647
Under Mr. Fallon's theory,
548
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,580
every ex-con would have
a defense for murder.
549
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,560
But we're not
talking about
550
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,220
men who were criminals
before going to prison.
551
00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,600
We're talking about a man
who was completely innocent
552
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,880
before being sent
to Green Haven
553
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,290
and was profoundly,
and irrevocably changed,
554
00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,040
and not for the better
by the experience.
555
00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:26,125
And prison erased
556
00:19:26,209 --> 00:19:27,585
his sense of
right and wrong?
557
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,140
In a manner of
speaking, yes.
558
00:19:29,224 --> 00:19:30,184
It maimed him.
559
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,300
It dehumanized him.
560
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,260
It replaced traditional notions
of right and wrong
561
00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:34,880
with a kill-or-
be-killed reflex
562
00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,935
that led tragically
to Brendan Donner's death.
563
00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:38,020
That doesn't meet
564
00:19:38,020 --> 00:19:39,540
the New York standard,
Your Honor.
565
00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:42,413
Either Mr. Grimes didn't know
what he was doing was wrong,
566
00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:45,240
or he didn't understand
the nature of his behavior.
567
00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:47,900
Simply reacting
to a perceived threat
568
00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:48,980
because he thought he was in
569
00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:50,900
a hostile environment
doesn't cut it.
570
00:19:51,020 --> 00:19:52,900
He wasn't in prison.
He was in a bar, Your Honor.
571
00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:54,060
He completely overreacted.
572
00:19:54,143 --> 00:19:55,103
Exactly.
573
00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:57,080
Walter Grimes
completely overreacted
574
00:19:57,420 --> 00:19:59,680
because of how his prison
experience shaped him.
575
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:00,580
You have an expert
576
00:20:00,580 --> 00:20:01,900
who will back your theory,
Mr. Fallon?
577
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,800
I've got five of
them, Your Honor.
578
00:20:02,925 --> 00:20:04,380
Fax their CVs over to me.
579
00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:05,220
If they're credible,
580
00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:06,800
I'm inclined
to let this go to a jury.
581
00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:09,260
You don't think that
there might be something
582
00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:10,336
to Grimes's defense?
583
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:12,080
People adapt to their
environment,
584
00:20:12,380 --> 00:20:13,260
in or out of prison.
585
00:20:13,403 --> 00:20:14,243
He knew
where he was
586
00:20:14,243 --> 00:20:15,786
and how he was
supposed to act.
587
00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:17,700
How do we know he
wasn't a bad apple
588
00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:19,694
before rotting in
prison for 20 years?
589
00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:23,240
Fallon's already conceded
this defense only applies
590
00:20:23,780 --> 00:20:25,360
if Grimes was
a law-abiding citizen
591
00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:27,360
before being shipped off
to Green Haven.
592
00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:29,703
Leeanne Testa's murder
was his first arrest.
593
00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:32,470
How old was he
at that time?
594
00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:33,310
Nineteen.
595
00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:35,062
Well, if he had committed
any prior crimes,
596
00:20:35,550 --> 00:20:36,750
it might have been
as a juvenile.
597
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:38,710
And those records
would be sealed.
598
00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:40,470
I'm sure that under
the circumstances,
599
00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:41,890
you could convince
a judge
600
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:43,090
to unseal
those records.
601
00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:44,950
If there are any.
602
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:48,570
What prosecutor wouldn't love
603
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:50,587
a peek at a defendant's
juvie record?
604
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:53,066
But if I unsealed it
in every case,
605
00:20:53,230 --> 00:20:54,110
seal would
have no meaning.
606
00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:55,730
This isn't
a typical case.
607
00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:57,270
Mr. Grimes's defense
608
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:59,270
put his juvenile record
directly at issue.
609
00:20:59,270 --> 00:21:00,890
He claims he had no
criminal tendencies
610
00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:02,210
before he went
to prison.
611
00:21:02,510 --> 00:21:04,179
So you want to look
at his juvenile record,
612
00:21:04,262 --> 00:21:05,230
assuming
that he has one,
613
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:06,410
to determine
if that's true.
614
00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:08,730
I'll tell you what--
I'll review
615
00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:09,790
the file in camera.
616
00:21:10,110 --> 00:21:11,111
If I find
anything relevant,
617
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:12,690
I'll make it
available to you.
618
00:21:12,774 --> 00:21:13,630
Agreed?
619
00:21:13,630 --> 00:21:14,413
Thank you, Your Honor.
620
00:21:14,413 --> 00:21:15,498
Jackpot.
621
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:20,150
Grimes fits the textbook
definition of a bad seed.
622
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:22,187
Arrests for school
ground assault,
623
00:21:22,270 --> 00:21:24,110
menacing,
auto stripping,
624
00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:25,570
possession
of stolen property.
625
00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:27,750
But no convictions.
626
00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:29,690
The system kept
cutting him loose.
627
00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:30,630
The closest he ever came
628
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:32,770
was a liquor store
robbery when he was 15.
629
00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:34,830
He threatened
the owner with a gun.
630
00:21:34,930 --> 00:21:36,014
Why did
the ADA kick it?
631
00:21:36,650 --> 00:21:38,530
I don't know, but it makes
one thing pretty clear.
632
00:21:39,010 --> 00:21:40,950
Even if Grimes didn't
kill Leanne Testa...
633
00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:42,730
He was hardly
an innocent man.
634
00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:48,090
Sure, I remember.
635
00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:49,290
Guy sticks a gun in my face,
636
00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:50,930
I'm going
to forget that?
637
00:21:50,930 --> 00:21:52,410
According to his
juvenile records,
638
00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:53,730
the police arrested
a young man
639
00:21:53,850 --> 00:21:54,990
named Walter Grimes.
640
00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:57,210
You're talking about
that white kid, right?
641
00:21:57,210 --> 00:21:58,790
He would've been
about 15 at the time.
642
00:21:58,873 --> 00:21:59,833
He didn't do it.
643
00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:00,930
As far as I know,
644
00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:02,270
they never caught
he kid that did.
645
00:22:02,395 --> 00:22:03,939
But the police
arrested him.
646
00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:05,270
I told the officer--
647
00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:07,530
Daniels,
his name was Daniels--
648
00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:09,070
I told Daniels
the little pachuco
649
00:22:09,410 --> 00:22:11,370
who held me up
was Hispanic.
650
00:22:11,410 --> 00:22:13,630
Daniels didn't believe me,
but I saw what I saw.
651
00:22:13,755 --> 00:22:14,715
Are you sure?
652
00:22:14,798 --> 00:22:16,341
Sure I'm sure.
653
00:22:16,425 --> 00:22:17,890
How come Officer
Daniels believe you?
654
00:22:17,890 --> 00:22:19,530
How come he arrested
Walter Grimes?
655
00:22:19,530 --> 00:22:20,430
You'd have to ask him.
656
00:22:21,570 --> 00:22:22,430
You're talking about a case
657
00:22:22,530 --> 00:22:24,070
that was, like, 25 years ago.
658
00:22:24,290 --> 00:22:25,790
I know cops who
remember every suspect
659
00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:26,910
they ever
interrogated.
660
00:22:26,994 --> 00:22:27,995
Walter Grimes?
661
00:22:28,930 --> 00:22:30,100
Yeah, that's right.
662
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,820
Real punk, absolute
white trash.
663
00:22:32,260 --> 00:22:34,380
This about that guy
he killed in a bar?
664
00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:35,220
That's right.
665
00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:36,740
See, that's what you get
when you let a guy
666
00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:38,120
like Grimes
loose on society.
667
00:22:39,003 --> 00:22:39,843
He was exonerated.
668
00:22:39,843 --> 00:22:40,803
Whatever.
669
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,940
I'm looking into
all of his priors.
670
00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:46,013
If Grimes did this
liquor store robbery,
671
00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:47,740
it would actually help
a case that we're prosecuting,
672
00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:49,520
but the store owner
says that he didn't.
673
00:22:50,380 --> 00:22:52,020
What can I tell you?
The old guy was wrong.
674
00:22:52,820 --> 00:22:53,880
But Grimes is white.
675
00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:56,060
The store owner said that
the robber was Latino.
676
00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:58,900
Look, the old man was so scared,
he pissed himself.
677
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:00,920
All he saw
was the gun, if that.
678
00:23:01,260 --> 00:23:02,980
Grimes the guy who held
him up, I have no doubt.
679
00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:04,100
Except your gut
680
00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:05,400
isn't admissible, Detective.
681
00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:06,740
Which is why
the DA
682
00:23:06,860 --> 00:23:08,040
kicked
the robbery charge.
683
00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:09,280
Grimes did it.
684
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:10,940
And it wasn't his first
stickup, either.
685
00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:12,500
That kid was born
to go to jail.
686
00:23:12,723 --> 00:23:13,563
Have a good day.
687
00:23:13,563 --> 00:23:15,732
So we know Grimes wasn't
688
00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:17,800
the choir boy
his lawyer's been
689
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:19,775
saying he was, but
we can't prove it?
690
00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:20,760
That's
what it looks like.
691
00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:22,460
What about the knife?
692
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:23,960
The one found
at Grimes's apartment.
693
00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:25,740
DNA confirmed that
the blood on it
694
00:23:25,820 --> 00:23:27,060
wasn't Leeanne Testa's.
695
00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:28,500
But it was someone's.
696
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,451
Let's see if we can
find out whose.
697
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:31,560
I'll have
Briscoe and Green
698
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,980
contact the primary
on the Testa case.
699
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,033
We got an anonymous tip about the
Testa case,
700
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,600
judge signed a search warrant.
701
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,926
Off an anonymous
tip?
702
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,580
Back in '84, we had a couple
political appointees.
703
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,160
They let us take a few more
704
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,160
procedural short cuts
than they do now.
705
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,062
Ah, the Reagan years.
706
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,412
Anyway, I went in
with my partner
707
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720
and a team of five blues.
708
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,200
We searched
from ceiling to cellar.
709
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,720
Yeah, you found
the knife.
710
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,680
Wrapped in a dishrag.
711
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,620
It was hidden under a loose
floorboard in his closet.
712
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,748
But the blood on the knife
wasn't Leeanne Testa's.
713
00:23:58,873 --> 00:24:00,959
Hell of a thing--
this Fallon guy...
714
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,244
Yeah, the Exoneration
Project.
715
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,780
Got a court order,
716
00:24:04,905 --> 00:24:06,320
did family DNA
against the knife,
717
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,300
proved it wasn't
Testa's.
718
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,288
Grimes always said
the knife was planted.
719
00:24:11,413 --> 00:24:12,880
Well, 'course
he'd say that.
720
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,040
Who knows? He probably
killed somebody else.
721
00:24:15,123 --> 00:24:16,040
Yeah,
that's why
722
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,583
we need to run that
knife past forensics,
723
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,060
see if it matches
any open cases.
724
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,818
Well, after Fallon
had it tested,
725
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,090
it went back
to the ME's office.
726
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,040
Ought to still be there.
727
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,920
So that day,
728
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,760
when you found the knife
729
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,509
in Grimes' apartment,
anything strike you as fishy?
730
00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:28,860
Well, I didn't
actually find it.
731
00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:31,490
Some uniform, got his
shield a few years back.
732
00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:33,399
Reynolds, Daniels,
something like that.
733
00:24:33,482 --> 00:24:35,090
Not Kenny Daniels?
734
00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:37,090
Yeah, Kenny Daniels,
that's it-- you know him?
735
00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:39,009
We were at the same house
for a while, the 2-9?
736
00:24:39,170 --> 00:24:40,090
I ain't seen him in years.
737
00:24:40,530 --> 00:24:42,073
He the kind of cop
that would plant evidence?
738
00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:43,650
Not the Kenny
Daniels I knew.
739
00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:45,250
He was a stickler. By the book.
740
00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:46,790
He drove me crazy.
Thought I was a cowboy.
741
00:24:46,970 --> 00:24:48,830
He'd always say, "Dot your I's,
cross your T's."
742
00:24:48,914 --> 00:24:50,916
People change.
743
00:24:54,850 --> 00:24:57,130
This is great, Ed.
744
00:24:57,130 --> 00:24:57,970
What is it, eight or
ten years since I seen you,
745
00:24:57,970 --> 00:24:58,929
not even a phone call?
746
00:24:59,250 --> 00:25:01,150
Now you're on my doorstep,
making accusations?
747
00:25:01,650 --> 00:25:02,890
Just questions, Kenny.
748
00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:05,010
Not accusations.
Just questions.
749
00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:06,570
These the sort of "questions"
750
00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:09,151
I should have my PBA delegate
present for?
751
00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:10,750
Look, I spoke
to the DA's office.
752
00:25:12,130 --> 00:25:13,950
You arrested Grimes for
a liquor store robbery
753
00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:15,550
that the owner
swears up and down
754
00:25:15,650 --> 00:25:16,570
that the kid didn't commit.
755
00:25:16,653 --> 00:25:18,405
Mr. Magoo?
756
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:21,170
That old man was so blind,
757
00:25:21,170 --> 00:25:22,530
he couldn't tell his ass
from his elbow.
758
00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:24,390
Grimes did that robbery,
Ed, trust me.
759
00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:25,529
Okay, but then
you find
760
00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:28,990
a knife that puts the same guy
away for a murder
761
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:30,750
that he absolutely
did not commit.
762
00:25:31,670 --> 00:25:32,950
He goes to jail for 20 years.
763
00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:36,270
What?
What is it, man?
764
00:25:36,270 --> 00:25:37,110
You couldn't
get him
765
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:38,030
on the liquor store robbery,
766
00:25:38,030 --> 00:25:40,199
so you framed him
for Leeanne Testa's murder?
767
00:25:40,510 --> 00:25:42,190
The liquor store had nothing to
do with it.
768
00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:43,942
How do you think Grimes' prints
got on that knife?
769
00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:45,649
What do you think,
I'm some kind of magician?
770
00:25:45,733 --> 00:25:47,193
I don't know, man.
771
00:25:47,593 --> 00:25:48,433
You tell me.
772
00:26:00,190 --> 00:26:01,410
Her name was Julie Sayer.
773
00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:05,770
She was 16, going on 12.
774
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:08,070
You know, innocent.
775
00:26:09,630 --> 00:26:11,170
The knife I found
in Grimes' apartment.
776
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:12,670
It was his
all right,
777
00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:14,370
but he didn't
use it on Leeanne Testa.
778
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:17,510
He used it on Julie Sayer.
779
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:19,590
Slit her throat with it.
780
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:22,610
There was no DNA testing
back then.
781
00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:26,331
Same type, O positive,
782
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,240
so everyone assumed
it was Leeanne's blood.
783
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,495
Well, if Grimes killed
Julie Sayer,
784
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,015
why didn't you
collar him for it?
785
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:33,040
I did.
786
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,880
Grimes was a creep.
787
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,900
I had witnesses who put him
with the girl that morning.
788
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,660
I brought him in, he started
789
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,980
running his mouth,
talking trash.
790
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,240
He even took a swing at me.
791
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,419
You didn't beat
the dude down, did you?
792
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,100
Only time I ever
lost it like that.
793
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,040
All I could see was that
that dead girl
794
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,400
lying there
with her throat cut.
795
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,360
Did Grimes give it up?
796
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,362
Oh, yeah, he told me
how he killed Julie.
797
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,460
Told me how he hid
the knife in a storm drain.
798
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,100
Told me exactly
where to find it.
799
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,088
But what,
the bust wasn't any good?
800
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,848
Lieu took
one look at him,
801
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,920
one look at my knuckles,
802
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,200
he told me I had
to kick him loose.
803
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,460
He told you to 86 the arrest.
804
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Try to find another way
to make the case.
805
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,540
But if the confession
was inadmissible, then...
806
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,560
The knife
was, too.
807
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,220
There wasn't going to be
808
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,080
any justice for Julie Sayer.
809
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,880
I let Grimes go,
810
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,257
fished the knife
out of the storm drain,
811
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:26,840
saved it for a rainy day.
812
00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:31,160
Then Leeanne Testa
gets stabbed.
813
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:35,660
Wound patterns were consistent
with Grimes' knife.
814
00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:36,740
Blood type
the same as Julie's.
815
00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:38,060
Pieces fell into place.
816
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:39,540
You call in
817
00:27:39,540 --> 00:27:42,140
an anonymous tip,
and then you "find"
818
00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:43,640
the knife
in Grimes' apartment.
819
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:46,320
Why not?
Grimes was guilty.
820
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:47,940
He was a murderer.
821
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:51,800
He was going to walk on
the murder of Julie Sayer!
822
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:53,500
He was going to walk
because of me!
823
00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,140
It was eating me up, Ed.
824
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:00,120
I had to make
it right.
825
00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:02,180
I had to balance
826
00:28:02,225 --> 00:28:04,269
the scales.
827
00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:17,460
At least he didn't
frame an innocent man.
828
00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:19,525
No, he framed a guilty one.
829
00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:21,680
The way he sees it,
he kept Grimes
830
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,750
from falling through
the cracks in the system.
831
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:24,670
Well, somebody
832
00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:25,590
should tell him not to do
833
00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:26,850
the system any more favors.
834
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:29,697
Regardless of his motivation,
835
00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:31,710
this is the worst kind
of police misconduct.
836
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:34,510
Now, any appellate court
would find that this
837
00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:36,170
"shocks the conscience"
and so should we.
838
00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:38,310
Agreed,
but he's all we've got.
839
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:39,728
Where's this lieutenant
of his now?
840
00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:40,990
In the cemetery.
841
00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:42,890
He had a heart attack
six years ago.
842
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:44,390
So no one but Daniels
843
00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:46,171
can say that Grimes
killed Julie Sayer.
844
00:28:46,255 --> 00:28:47,215
No, but if we could
845
00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:49,930
prove he did, Fallon's
defense strategy
846
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:51,830
on the Donner murder
goes out the window.
847
00:28:51,913 --> 00:28:52,914
Grimes was
a murderer
848
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:55,470
before he was ever shipped
off to Green Haven.
849
00:28:56,110 --> 00:28:58,510
All right, we'll try him
on the Sayer murder first.
850
00:28:58,830 --> 00:28:59,790
Only Grimes's
confession
851
00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:02,150
is no more admissible today
than it was 20 years ago.
852
00:29:02,830 --> 00:29:05,374
But, today,
DNA analysis
853
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:09,510
will confirm that the blood
on the knife is Julie Sayer's.
854
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:11,803
Oh, you know what Fallon's
going to say about that.
855
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:16,450
People versus Walter Grimes.
856
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:17,890
Murder in the Second Degree.
857
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:19,910
How do you plead,
Mr. Grimes?
858
00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:21,910
My client pleads
not guilty, Your Honor.
859
00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:23,456
People on bail?
860
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:24,750
The People seek remand.
861
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:27,262
Mr. Grimes is accused of
murdering a teenage girl,
862
00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:28,410
stabbing her to death.
863
00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:29,450
Your Honor,
this crime
864
00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:31,110
took place more
than 20 years ago.
865
00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:34,208
Mr. Grimes is also a suspect
in a recent bar killing.
866
00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:36,010
Let the state try him
on that charge, then.
867
00:29:36,135 --> 00:29:37,090
We intend to.
868
00:29:37,090 --> 00:29:39,134
Their physical evidence
in this matter, Your Honor,
869
00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:41,650
the murder of Julie Sayer,
the state has already used
870
00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:43,174
to convict my client
of another crime,
871
00:29:43,174 --> 00:29:44,014
for which he's subsequently
872
00:29:44,014 --> 00:29:45,014
been exonerated.
873
00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:46,530
Is this true, Miss Southerlyn?
874
00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:48,157
That same DNA evidence,
Your Honor,
875
00:29:48,290 --> 00:29:49,270
now accurately identifies
876
00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:51,250
which victim
Mr. Grimes killed.
877
00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:53,030
Their star witness
is the officer
878
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:54,510
who planted the knife
and framed
879
00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:56,070
my client
in the first case.
880
00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:57,650
Enough.
881
00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:58,590
Someone else can sort through
882
00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:00,170
the evidentiary issues,
thank God.
883
00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:01,730
Since the People seem to have
884
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:03,770
an ongoing interest
in Mr. Grimes' whereabouts
885
00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:05,427
after this matter
is concluded,
886
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:06,970
I'm going to remand
the defendant.
887
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:08,430
Your Honor...
That's it.
888
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:10,734
Sorry, Mr. Fallon.
Better luck next time.
889
00:30:10,817 --> 00:30:12,736
Next case.
890
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:15,890
The knife was planted
in my client's apartment.
891
00:30:16,170 --> 00:30:17,010
By a police
officer.
892
00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:18,890
The chain of custody
remained intact.
893
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:20,060
This is outrageous.
894
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:21,640
I can't believe
you can stand there
895
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:22,960
and say that to me
with a straight face.
896
00:30:23,260 --> 00:30:25,000
You're forgetting how
that officer found the knife
897
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,300
in the storm drain
in the first place.
898
00:30:26,420 --> 00:30:27,940
Your client told
him where it was.
899
00:30:28,065 --> 00:30:29,066
He beat it out of him.
900
00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:30,391
An improperly
obtained confession.
901
00:30:30,474 --> 00:30:31,976
The knife is poisonous fruit.
902
00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:33,980
You're assuming
that the police
903
00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:36,180
wouldn't have found it
without Grimes's confession.
904
00:30:36,305 --> 00:30:37,306
They canvassed
905
00:30:37,306 --> 00:30:37,900
all over the city.
906
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,680
They would've never
found it and you know it.
907
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,160
Let's see what
a judge thinks.
908
00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:44,080
In the meantime, consider this
your notice of our lab work.
909
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,180
We exhumed
her body
910
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:46,780
and extracted DNA
from her bones.
911
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:48,817
The blood on the knife
was Julie Sayer's.
912
00:30:49,060 --> 00:30:51,060
DNA's a double-edged
sword, counselor.
913
00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:53,860
DNA is persuasive,
only if it's admissible.
914
00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:56,040
My motion
to suppress the knife.
915
00:31:02,296 --> 00:31:03,547
Was he right?
916
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:05,459
About the DNA?
917
00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:07,220
About the search--
Fallon just said
918
00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:09,040
the police looked high
and low for the knife.
919
00:31:09,123 --> 00:31:10,333
That's right.
920
00:31:11,420 --> 00:31:13,300
Let's get the case's
primary on the phone.
921
00:31:15,010 --> 00:31:17,512
Julie Sayer was 16. Pretty.
922
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,200
On the front page
of the Post for weeks.
923
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,380
Bet your ass, we tore
the city apart.
924
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,180
Do you remember searching
on 190th Street
925
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,155
between Autobahn
and Amsterdam?
926
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Where it happened.
927
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,680
We turned that
neighborhood upside down.
928
00:31:29,764 --> 00:31:30,765
Storm drains?
929
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,960
We searched them all.
930
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,680
From Washington Heights
to Inwood.
931
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,464
Would you be willing
to sign an affidavit?
932
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440
What, that we searched
the storm drains?
933
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Every one
in the area.
934
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,140
With a flashlight
and a fine-tooth comb.
935
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,660
And didn't find a thing.
936
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,861
First the People concede
that Detective Daniels,
937
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,918
who was then Officer Daniels,
938
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,360
questioned my client
without counsel present
939
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,020
in clear violation of his
Sixth Amendment rights.
940
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,660
And then they concede
he assaulted my client
941
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,640
to obtain a confession
942
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,681
in violation of his
Fifth Amendment rights,
943
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000
used that illegal confession
to seize the knife
944
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640
in violation of my client's
Fourth Amendment rights,
945
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,516
and as if that
wasn't enough,
946
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,020
they freely admit he
then planted the knife
947
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,600
to frame my client for
a crime he didn't commit
948
00:32:04,725 --> 00:32:05,934
in violation of,
at the very least,
949
00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:07,102
his Fourteenth
Amendment rights.
950
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,407
Are there any amendments
the People haven't violated?
951
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,920
And now, now in
what has to be
952
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,800
the single greatest
demonstration
953
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,420
of legal chutzpah in
the history of jurisprudence,
954
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,260
he contends the knife
shouldn't be suppressed.
955
00:32:15,385 --> 00:32:16,512
Mr. McCoy,
is this true?
956
00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:18,290
Every word,
Your Honor.
957
00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:19,690
Then how can you
argue in support
958
00:32:19,815 --> 00:32:20,770
of the knife's
admission?
959
00:32:20,770 --> 00:32:23,210
Because of the inevitable
discovery doctrine.
960
00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:25,730
The knife is admissible
if the police would have
961
00:32:25,810 --> 00:32:27,710
eventually discovered it
without the impropriety.
962
00:32:28,210 --> 00:32:29,050
How is that possible?
963
00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:29,890
They only found the knife
964
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:30,810
because
Officer Daniels
965
00:32:30,890 --> 00:32:32,210
planted it
in my client's home.
966
00:32:32,336 --> 00:32:33,337
You said it yourself.
967
00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:34,796
The police
canvassed the area
968
00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:36,730
where the knife was
originally hidden.
969
00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:37,850
I have
an affidavit
970
00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:39,385
from Detective
Johnson,
971
00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:41,387
the primary
on the case,
972
00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:42,610
who searched the storm drain
973
00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:43,910
where Grimes
had hidden the knife.
974
00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:45,170
But it wasn't there
to be found.
975
00:32:45,253 --> 00:32:46,213
Because
Officer Daniels
976
00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:47,610
had already removed it.
977
00:32:47,652 --> 00:32:49,320
Under inevitable discovery,
the issue is:
978
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:50,410
What would have happened
979
00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:53,439
but for Officer Daniels'
wrongful conduct?
980
00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:55,090
The knife would have been
in that storm drain
981
00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:56,770
for Detective Johnson to find.
982
00:32:56,853 --> 00:32:57,854
Exactly.
983
00:32:57,890 --> 00:32:58,730
Oh, this is outrageous.
984
00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:00,430
You're basically saying
that Daniels's
985
00:33:00,690 --> 00:33:02,370
illegal conduct makes
the knife admissible.
986
00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:03,530
It isn't
that I don't
987
00:33:03,595 --> 00:33:04,555
see the irony,
988
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,610
but the evidence
is admissible.
989
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:07,770
He's got you, Mr. Fallon.
990
00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:11,370
Look, Mr. Grimes' confession
remains inadmissible,
991
00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:12,370
but the knife comes in.
992
00:33:14,650 --> 00:33:16,510
Don't pop those champagne corks
yet.
993
00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:17,950
No amount of fancy
footwork
994
00:33:18,190 --> 00:33:19,270
is going to change
the fact
995
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:21,410
that your sponsoring
witness is Kenny Daniels.
996
00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:24,366
I hate using him, but
what choice do we have?
997
00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:26,210
A cop who admits he
framed a guilty man
998
00:33:26,350 --> 00:33:28,010
for another crime,
which he didn't commit.
999
00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:29,516
In service
of the greater good.
1000
00:33:30,190 --> 00:33:31,310
That's what you'll
tell the jury.
1001
00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,390
What Fallon will tell
them is that Daniels
1002
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:35,810
is a vigilante with
an ax to grind.
1003
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:38,230
Which is exactly what we
need to prepare him for.
1004
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:42,870
If I hadn't done what I did,
Grimes was going to walk.
1005
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:45,030
Why are you making me out
to be the bad guy?
1006
00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:47,650
Because you crossed
the line, Detective.
1007
00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:49,810
And because that's
what Rodney Fallon
1008
00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:51,410
will do when
you take the stand.
1009
00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:53,370
He's not the first
shyster I've taken on.
1010
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:54,270
I can handle him.
1011
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:55,310
Let's hope
he's the only
1012
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:56,910
whose client's
been framed by you.
1013
00:33:58,150 --> 00:34:00,130
Okay. I deserve that.
1014
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:02,970
Grimes killed Julie Sayer.
1015
00:34:03,310 --> 00:34:04,150
He admitted it.
1016
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:06,490
And because I screwed up,
he was going walk.
1017
00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:08,710
That's a mistake
I couldn't live with,
1018
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:10,750
and I'm not going
to apologize for fixing it!
1019
00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:11,590
If you don't,
1020
00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:13,980
he may walk on Julie's
murder a second time.
1021
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,940
If the jury sees you as
some kind of a vigilante
1022
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680
with no qualms about
framing someone
1023
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,200
or planting evidence,
1024
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,140
they won't listen
to a word you say.
1025
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,360
I screwed up 20 years ago,
but by making it right,
1026
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,760
it's the best thing
I've ever done.
1027
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,040
You really want me to say
I feel sorry when I don't?
1028
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,400
You're a police officer
1029
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,500
and you put yourself
above the law!
1030
00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:40,795
I can't believe you have
no regrets about that.
1031
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,960
Yeah, I have some regrets.
1032
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920
That I gave him a beating
and I screwed up the case.
1033
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,920
What, do you want
me to lie?
1034
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,980
I want you to acknowledge
what it is
1035
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,500
I know you must be feeling.
1036
00:34:49,625 --> 00:34:50,585
And that's what?
1037
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:51,600
Guilt.
1038
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,760
Guilt about what?
1039
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,720
Guilt at having been
so arrogant
1040
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,060
as to put yourself
above the law.
1041
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,920
Planting the knife was wrong.
1042
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,980
What I did was wrong.
1043
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,761
I was trying to do right,
1044
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,520
but now I see the ends
didn't justify the means.
1045
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,840
I'm sure you understand
1046
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,620
people may view whatever
testimony you'd offer
1047
00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:18,040
against Walter Grimes with a
certain amount of skepticism.
1048
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,520
I made one mistake
20 years ago.
1049
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:21,859
And since then?
1050
00:35:21,940 --> 00:35:23,660
I've told the truth
and played by the rules.
1051
00:35:27,789 --> 00:35:28,749
Have you?
1052
00:35:28,874 --> 00:35:29,834
Yes.
1053
00:35:29,959 --> 00:35:31,335
"One mistake."
1054
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:34,200
You admit you framed my client
1055
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:35,580
for the murder
of Leeanne Testa.
1056
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:37,800
I admit to framing him
for one murder
1057
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:39,100
because he committed another.
1058
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:40,660
The one he's on trial for here.
1059
00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:41,500
You don't get to be
1060
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:43,020
judge and jury this
time, Mr. Daniels.
1061
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,180
He confessed to me
that he killed Julie Sayer.
1062
00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:47,100
A confession you beat
out of him.
1063
00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:48,960
Which mistake do you regret--
1064
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,578
beating my client or planting
evidence against him?
1065
00:35:52,703 --> 00:35:54,580
Both.
1066
00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:56,280
So that's
two mistakes.
1067
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:59,300
Tell me, is there anyone
who can corroborate your story?
1068
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,140
Just your client.
1069
00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:01,929
My client maintains
his innocence,
1070
00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:03,700
which means we're
left with your word.
1071
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,526
Then you're left with my word,
and I'm telling the truth.
1072
00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:06,860
But I don't believe
you, Mr. Daniels.
1073
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:07,700
You've been obsessed
1074
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:08,820
with getting my client
for decades.
1075
00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:09,938
Since he was a kid, haven't you? No.
1076
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,970
You arrested him
for a liquor store robbery
1077
00:36:12,054 --> 00:36:13,221
that was committed
by someone else.
1078
00:36:13,346 --> 00:36:14,347
I stand by that arrest.
1079
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:15,510
Even though
the owner said
1080
00:36:15,615 --> 00:36:16,575
the robber
was Latino?
1081
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:18,038
And then, on
another occasion,
1082
00:36:18,163 --> 00:36:19,373
you assaulted
Mr. Grimes.
1083
00:36:19,373 --> 00:36:20,213
He was a suspect.
1084
00:36:20,213 --> 00:36:21,173
He attacked me, Counselor,
1085
00:36:21,298 --> 00:36:22,258
and I defended myself.
1086
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:24,610
He was in your custody
and you beat him bloody.
1087
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:28,010
Like I said, I regret that.
1088
00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:30,230
Then you framed him
for Leeanne Testa's murder.
1089
00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:32,510
And I've got nothing
to gain by admitting it.
1090
00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:34,910
In fact, I'm throwing away
my career and my pension.
1091
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:38,486
Your career and pension mean
nothing to you, do they?
1092
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:40,990
Not compared to your vendetta
against Walter Grimes.
1093
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:50,110
Enjoy the show?
1094
00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:50,970
You held up okay.
1095
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:53,270
What are you doing here?
1096
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:54,110
It's my case.
1097
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:57,130
Thought maybe
you came to gloat.
1098
00:36:58,070 --> 00:37:00,573
Now, why would I do that?
We're friends.
1099
00:37:00,870 --> 00:37:01,710
I thought we were.
1100
00:37:03,110 --> 00:37:04,730
Don't try to turn this
around on me, Kenny.
1101
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:05,990
You put yourself
in this circus.
1102
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:08,430
DA's could've made their
case on that bar room fight
1103
00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:09,430
without dredging this up
1104
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:10,890
and dragging me
into the middle of it.
1105
00:37:11,010 --> 00:37:12,230
We had no choice. You did.
1106
00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:15,610
You could have let it go, Ed.
1107
00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:20,004
You don't want justice
for Julie Sayer?
1108
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,790
I already had justice
for Julie Sayer.
1109
00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:33,382
I don't know what I ever did to
him,
1110
00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:36,150
but he's had it in
for me since I was kid.
1111
00:37:37,090 --> 00:37:38,730
He was the cop on the beat
in our neighborhood
1112
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:39,990
and he always hated me.
1113
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:42,390
He's had it in for me
since day one.
1114
00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:44,810
Detective Daniels
seems to think
1115
00:37:44,970 --> 00:37:46,210
you were an incorrigible
criminal
1116
00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:47,450
who should be taken
off the street.
1117
00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:49,756
Look, I never
said I was a saint,
1118
00:37:50,290 --> 00:37:52,490
but the things he said
I did, I didn't do.
1119
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:55,490
But in respect
to Julie Sayer's murder,
1120
00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:57,200
your fingerprints
are on the knife,
1121
00:37:57,490 --> 00:37:58,370
along with her blood.
1122
00:37:58,453 --> 00:38:00,330
It's, it's my knife.
1123
00:38:00,414 --> 00:38:01,873
I never denied that.
1124
00:38:02,570 --> 00:38:03,410
Of course it's going to have
1125
00:38:03,413 --> 00:38:04,450
my prints on it.
1126
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:05,826
And Julie Sayer's blood?
1127
00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:08,818
Daniels is police, right?
1128
00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:10,700
He could get as much
of her blood as he wanted.
1129
00:38:10,825 --> 00:38:11,993
There's nothing
1130
00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:13,540
this guy won't
do to burn me.
1131
00:38:13,665 --> 00:38:14,625
Nothing.
1132
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,540
You sound paranoid,
Mr. Grimes.
1133
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:25,140
It ain't paranoia if someone's
really out to get you.
1134
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:26,380
This Daniels is.
1135
00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,420
Yet you admit
you don't know why.
1136
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:30,880
You'd have to ask him.
1137
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:32,058
No, I'm asking you.
1138
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:33,580
I don't know.
1139
00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:34,660
Maybe he's crazy.
1140
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:37,520
So you're saying
Detective Daniels somehow
1141
00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:40,700
manufactured the bloody knife
evidence in this case?
1142
00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:42,020
Come on, he framed
me before.
1143
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:44,280
I spent 20 years
in prison
1144
00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:46,660
for killing a person I
never even laid eyes on.
1145
00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:48,700
That's irrelevant, Mr. Grimes.
1146
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,980
20 years of my life
is irrelevant?
1147
00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:53,140
Your fingerprints
are on the knife.
1148
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,840
Julie Sayer's blood
is on the knife.
1149
00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:57,881
How did all that get there?
1150
00:38:57,964 --> 00:38:58,924
Objection.
1151
00:38:58,924 --> 00:38:59,460
Daniels put it there.
1152
00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:01,462
How did Detective Daniels
get your knife?
1153
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:03,860
It is not incumbent upon the
defendant
1154
00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:05,920
to prove how Detective Daniels
did anything.
1155
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:07,640
He's making all these
assertions,
1156
00:39:07,765 --> 00:39:09,100
he must have some idea.
1157
00:39:09,183 --> 00:39:10,360
I don't know how.
1158
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,570
He framed me, okay?
1159
00:39:11,695 --> 00:39:13,200
I never killed anybody.
1160
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,480
You didn't you kill
Brendan Donner three months...
1161
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,320
Objection, Your Honor.
Objection!
1162
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,840
after being released
from prison by smashing
1163
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,289
his head in
with a liquor bottle?
1164
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,920
This is outrageous.
1165
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,038
Accusing him of murder?
1166
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,520
The defendant
denied it.
1167
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,180
I have every right to
attack his credibility.
1168
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,760
He hasn't been
convicted in that case.
1169
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,800
He hasn't
even been tried.
1170
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,320
But he did raise a not
responsible defense.
1171
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,780
Which is an admission that
he killed Brendan Donner.
1172
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,201
And if the defendant
denies that,
1173
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,340
I'll put Dr. Olivet on
the stand to impeach him.
1174
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,600
You goaded him
into the denial
1175
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,780
so you could bring in
the other case
1176
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,920
to poison the minds
of the jury.
1177
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360
They call that
cross-examination, Mr. Fallon.
1178
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,720
Sorry, Counsel,
your client opened the door
1179
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:51,740
and put out the welcome mat.
1180
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,100
If I were you, I'd talk
to Mr. McCoy about a plea.
1181
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Forget it, McCoy.
1182
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,740
I'll argue that Grimes
killed Donner because
1183
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Daniels's vendetta against him
turned him into a murderer.
1184
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,060
You don't have to posture,
Mr. Fallon.
1185
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,120
Your client's not here.
1186
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,120
I don't have to posture
1187
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:07,850
because I still have
Kenny Daniels to vilify.
1188
00:40:08,090 --> 00:40:09,630
Which means nothing,
unless you can
1189
00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:11,230
paint Grimes
as the victim here.
1190
00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:12,750
A victim
is exactly what he is.
1191
00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:14,179
A victim of police misconduct,
1192
00:40:14,330 --> 00:40:16,070
a victim of the entire
criminal justice system.
1193
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:17,835
The jury's not here either,
1194
00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:19,850
so let's not pretend
we don't know
1195
00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:22,390
the crimes your client committed
as a juvenile.
1196
00:40:22,850 --> 00:40:25,436
Let's not pretend
he didn't kill Julie Sayer.
1197
00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:27,150
And let's not pretend Daniels
wasn't out there
1198
00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:28,050
playing judge and jury.
1199
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:31,030
Detective Daniels is not
on trial here, Grimes is.
1200
00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:34,450
And Grimes is the one
who slit a woman's throat.
1201
00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:37,510
Grimes is the one
who crushed a man's head.
1202
00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:39,105
You seem to forget that,
1203
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:41,070
but I'm going to make sure
the jury remembers.
1204
00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:42,970
They're going
to want someone to pay.
1205
00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:45,350
Trust me, it won't
be Kenny Daniels.
1206
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:53,290
20 years in prison almost killed
Walter Grimes.
1207
00:40:55,450 --> 00:40:57,530
I'll give him credit
for those 20 years.
1208
00:40:59,770 --> 00:41:03,524
If he allocutes.
1209
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:08,190
I killed Julie Sayer.
1210
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:10,830
I knew her
from around.
1211
00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:12,010
I had the hots
for her.
1212
00:41:12,094 --> 00:41:14,263
But she...
1213
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:17,030
Doesn't matter
why I did it.
1214
00:41:17,113 --> 00:41:20,325
I just...
1215
00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:23,161
I followed her one night.
1216
00:41:23,830 --> 00:41:24,970
I grabbed her, she said no.
1217
00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:26,170
I stabbed her, that's it.
1218
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:29,350
There's nothing more to say.
1219
00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,519
Mr. Grimes,
1220
00:41:31,602 --> 00:41:32,950
since you're
pleading guilty
1221
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:34,450
to murder in
the second degree
1222
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:36,630
with a sentence of
25 years to life,
1223
00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:39,130
and since the terms
of your plea agreement
1224
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:41,224
are that in exchange
for this allocution,
1225
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:42,830
you are to be given credit
1226
00:41:43,390 --> 00:41:45,684
for the 20 years
you served in Green Haven,
1227
00:41:46,070 --> 00:41:47,150
your remaining
sentence
1228
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:49,890
on the murder of Julie Sayer
is five years.
1229
00:41:49,973 --> 00:41:51,600
I understand, Your Honor.
1230
00:41:51,683 --> 00:41:52,630
And the parties
1231
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:53,590
have also reached a plea
1232
00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:56,129
with respect to the murder
of Brendan Donner?
1233
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:56,990
We have.
1234
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:59,242
The defendant has waived
his right to trial
1235
00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:02,490
and will plead guilty
to first degree manslaughter.
1236
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,480
I'm accepting
the defendant's
1237
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000
plea and imposing a sentence
of seven-and-a-half
1238
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,200
to 15 years to be served
consecutively
1239
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,180
with the aforementioned
five.
1240
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,240
I don't need company.
1241
00:42:26,505 --> 00:42:27,345
Maybe I do.
1242
00:42:27,345 --> 00:42:28,388
Irish,
1243
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,440
rocks on the side.
1244
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,960
He pled out.
1245
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,740
All's well that ends well.
1246
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,659
So how's it end for you?
1247
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,920
I've been encouraged
to take an early retirement.
1248
00:42:53,715 --> 00:42:55,050
Well...
1249
00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:57,010
um...
1250
00:42:57,094 --> 00:42:59,721
I'm sorry.
1251
00:43:02,020 --> 00:43:05,080
Don't be.
I did what I had to do.
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