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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:02,840 the people are represented the people are represented 2 00:00:02,923 --> 00:00:05,050 by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,635 the police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,900 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,460 These are their stories. 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,160 He's got it in for me is all I'm saying. 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,119 He don't got it in for you. 8 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,820 He's starting to make me look bad to Hector. 9 00:00:17,903 --> 00:00:19,040 Hector's smart enough 10 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,560 to see Alex is just talking trash. 11 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:23,320 All due respect to Hector, I got my doubts. 12 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,020 Just once I'd like to come in here 13 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:26,665 without some jerkweed causing a dust-up. 14 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,643 Yeah, this stuff's getting old. 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,480 Holy... 16 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:34,320 This guy's hurt bad. 17 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Get some help. 18 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,420 Somebody call 911. 19 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,060 35 years my family owns this place. 20 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,200 Plenty of fights, but nobody ever got killed. 21 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:44,560 You see what happened? 22 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,686 I hear shouts, I look over, 23 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,800 I saw one guy swing a bottle and the other guy goes down. 24 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,073 The guy who was swinging, what did he look like? 25 00:00:51,365 --> 00:00:52,205 Kind of average. 26 00:00:52,205 --> 00:00:53,165 Height? Weight? Age? 27 00:00:53,248 --> 00:00:54,208 Middle-aged. 28 00:00:54,291 --> 00:00:55,251 Brown hair. 29 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,860 Inch or two shy of six feet, maybe. 30 00:00:56,944 --> 00:00:58,070 You know, average. 31 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,890 Any of you seen this average dude in here before? 32 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:01,932 Nope. First timers, the two of 'em. 33 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:05,209 The other guy, the one who got his head cracked? 34 00:01:05,293 --> 00:01:07,128 I could swear I've seen him somewhere before. 35 00:01:07,211 --> 00:01:08,171 Me, too. 36 00:01:08,171 --> 00:01:08,710 But not in here? 37 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:09,210 Nah. 38 00:01:09,210 --> 00:01:10,503 Anybody see how it started? 39 00:01:10,970 --> 00:01:12,090 It-it was like all of a sudden, 40 00:01:12,090 --> 00:01:12,930 you know out of the blue. 41 00:01:13,250 --> 00:01:15,711 This one guy starts bashing the other guy's head in. 42 00:01:16,130 --> 00:01:17,550 I tried to tackle him, but... 43 00:01:18,010 --> 00:01:19,220 And that's how you got the eye? 44 00:01:19,250 --> 00:01:20,730 He was a lot stronger than he looked. 45 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:21,570 All right. Be sure 46 00:01:21,570 --> 00:01:23,050 to give your home number to the officer. 47 00:01:24,210 --> 00:01:25,294 So, what do we got? 48 00:01:25,450 --> 00:01:26,370 Depressed skull fracture. 49 00:01:26,610 --> 00:01:27,650 Glass shards in the wound. 50 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:29,210 Victim was struck with a blunt object. 51 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:30,616 Yeah, a liquor bottle. 52 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:31,530 Your murder weapon. 53 00:01:31,530 --> 00:01:32,690 Or what's left of it. 54 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:34,570 Well, maybe Latent can get a print anyway. 55 00:01:34,570 --> 00:01:36,510 Have CSU gather as much of that as they can. 56 00:01:37,090 --> 00:01:38,950 You'd be better off with all the king's horses 57 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:40,290 and all the king's men. 58 00:01:45,129 --> 00:01:46,171 Brendan Donner. 59 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:48,950 I thought he looked familiar. 60 00:01:49,530 --> 00:01:50,370 Not to me. 61 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:52,410 I'm drawing a blank. Who is he? 62 00:01:52,410 --> 00:01:53,670 Public enemy number one. 63 00:01:53,810 --> 00:01:54,710 At least in this city. 64 00:01:54,970 --> 00:01:56,290 League championship series, 65 00:01:56,290 --> 00:01:57,810 this dude goes for a foul ball, 66 00:01:57,810 --> 00:01:59,270 cost us the game and the pennant. 67 00:01:59,270 --> 00:02:00,830 We're talking about baseball? 68 00:02:00,830 --> 00:02:02,623 Yeah. Instead of being the third out, 69 00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:04,250 the batter draws a walk. 70 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:06,464 Next guy up hits a two-run homer, 71 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:08,230 and it's wait till next year, again. 72 00:02:08,590 --> 00:02:10,230 Looks like somebody was pissed off about waiting. 73 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:11,070 Wait a minute. 74 00:02:11,070 --> 00:02:12,410 You're telling me this guy got killed 75 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:14,094 cause he reached for a foul ball? 76 00:02:14,177 --> 00:02:16,262 And the suspect list is the greater New York phone book. 77 00:02:21,434 --> 00:02:25,105 Captioning sponsored by UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION 78 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:27,982 NBC 79 00:02:28,066 --> 00:02:30,318 ...AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE STYLISH 2004 TOYOTA CAMRY. 80 00:02:30,402 --> 00:02:31,986 GET THE FEELING. 81 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,600 I can't believe somebody 82 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,420 killed him over a stupid game. 83 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,560 We're not sure yet 84 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,600 that that's why your husband was murdered, Mrs. Donner. 85 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,718 But it's a pretty good bet, right? 86 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,840 I mean, what other reason could there be? 87 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,520 People treated Brendan like he was Osama Bin Laden. 88 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,080 As if any one of them wouldn't have tried 89 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,340 to catch that damn ball. 90 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,900 Did you take any of those threats 91 00:03:25,983 --> 00:03:27,276 more seriously than others? 92 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,780 I mean, is there anyone in particular 93 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,040 we should be looking at? 94 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,060 Just half of New York. 95 00:03:32,185 --> 00:03:33,186 Poor Brendan. 96 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,360 He was obsessed. 97 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,980 He read every letter, surfed the Internet, 98 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,880 watched all the talk shows... 99 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,214 I'm telling you something, 100 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,460 that game ruined our lives. 101 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,800 We'd like to look through your husband's things if we could. 102 00:03:49,884 --> 00:03:50,844 We separated 103 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:51,960 four months ago. 104 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,600 He moved out. 105 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Said there was no reason why I should take 106 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,400 the brunt for what he did. 107 00:03:56,525 --> 00:03:58,180 Sorry. 108 00:03:58,180 --> 00:04:00,160 We're going to need to get into his new place. 109 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:08,040 The papers should publish separate listings 110 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:09,560 for the soon-to-be-divorced. 111 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:12,500 "Available: crappy studio apartment 112 00:04:13,180 --> 00:04:14,340 "with view of airshaft. 113 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:16,100 "Emphasis on shaft. 114 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:19,880 Also excellent for sleepless nights and drinking binges." 115 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:21,440 And reading your hate mail. 116 00:04:21,565 --> 00:04:22,525 "Dear Jagoff. 117 00:04:23,140 --> 00:04:24,480 "I've been replaying the game in my mind 118 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:26,380 "and I still don't know what the hell you were thinking, 119 00:04:26,380 --> 00:04:27,600 you dumb ass son of a bitch." 120 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:29,380 That's quality bedtime reading. 121 00:04:29,660 --> 00:04:30,800 His wife said he was obsessed. 122 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:32,820 There's no forwarding labels on these. 123 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:33,780 They were sent here. 124 00:04:34,780 --> 00:04:37,282 Wonder how they got his new address so quick? 125 00:04:38,980 --> 00:04:39,980 Maybe he can tell us. 126 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:43,111 Special Agent Jeffery Bowerman. 127 00:04:43,194 --> 00:04:45,740 FBI. 128 00:04:45,740 --> 00:04:48,260 Donner was getting death threats from all over the country. 129 00:04:48,260 --> 00:04:51,200 People mailing him dead rats, dog crap, you name it. 130 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:53,140 When you care enough to send the very worst. 131 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:55,530 The worst was the envelope full of white powder. 132 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:58,030 We were wondering why the FBI was involved in this. 133 00:04:58,190 --> 00:05:01,970 Standard procedure for all cases involving a suspected biological contaminant. 134 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:03,150 Which this wasn't. 135 00:05:03,430 --> 00:05:04,670 Baking soda isn't lethal. 136 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:06,250 You never met my ex-wife. 137 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:08,590 Well, we went ahead and seized 138 00:05:08,590 --> 00:05:11,718 all the letters, cards and packages anyway, cataloged 'em. 139 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:14,310 Wow, a lot of people 140 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:16,070 with too much time on their hands, huh? 141 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:16,930 We've got audio, too. 142 00:05:17,030 --> 00:05:18,770 I tapped Donner's phone just to be safe. 143 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:19,907 For a case like this? 144 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:20,790 I felt sorry for him. 145 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:23,042 I wanted to go the extra mile, help the guy out. 146 00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:24,310 You bet the other team. 147 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:25,610 Made out like a bandit. 148 00:05:26,270 --> 00:05:27,870 Donner may've been a schmuck to you guys, 149 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:29,290 but he was a hero to us. 150 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:34,210 Sketch artist came up with a composite of our suspect. 151 00:05:34,713 --> 00:05:35,553 Could be anybody. 152 00:05:35,553 --> 00:05:36,596 How're you doing? 153 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:38,730 I'm reading Donner's hate mail. 154 00:05:38,910 --> 00:05:39,850 Ed's listening to it. 155 00:05:39,934 --> 00:05:41,060 Anything interesting? 156 00:05:41,950 --> 00:05:43,870 They either want to dump him in the East River, 157 00:05:43,870 --> 00:05:46,270 throw him off a building or run him over with a car. 158 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:47,310 Not much originality. 159 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:49,005 What would you have done to him? 160 00:05:49,089 --> 00:05:50,049 Who, me? 161 00:05:50,190 --> 00:05:51,730 Please. I remember how mad you were 162 00:05:51,813 --> 00:05:52,814 after that game. 163 00:05:53,050 --> 00:05:55,010 And I don't recall any tears from "Who, me?" 164 00:05:55,970 --> 00:05:57,170 when the tabloids published 165 00:05:57,410 --> 00:05:59,170 Donner's address and phone number. 166 00:05:59,170 --> 00:06:01,370 Okay, maybe that was a little bit over the line, 167 00:06:01,370 --> 00:06:03,470 but the idiot did earn himself a little grief. 168 00:06:03,810 --> 00:06:05,790 He tried to catch a ball. 169 00:06:06,130 --> 00:06:07,050 Which was still 170 00:06:07,175 --> 00:06:08,050 in play. 171 00:06:08,050 --> 00:06:10,650 Any real New York fan would've kept his hands in his pockets. 172 00:06:11,290 --> 00:06:12,625 Hey, I got something. 173 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:13,910 This is from two weeks ago. 174 00:06:14,810 --> 00:06:16,970 You think I don't know where you live, Donner? 175 00:06:16,970 --> 00:06:18,346 You better be watching your back, Donner, 176 00:06:18,610 --> 00:06:20,650 'cause one day soon I'm coming up behind you 177 00:06:20,650 --> 00:06:22,777 and bash your thick head until you're dead, 178 00:06:22,902 --> 00:06:24,320 you moron... 179 00:06:25,050 --> 00:06:27,690 The FBI traced that call to a Ted Enwright. 180 00:06:27,690 --> 00:06:28,530 Sounds promising. 181 00:06:28,530 --> 00:06:30,670 And the genius called from his home phone. 182 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:35,070 We lost half our pitchers to free agency. 183 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:37,030 Then there's that whole steroid thing. 184 00:06:37,490 --> 00:06:39,325 Who knows how that's going to play out? 185 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:40,690 Let's face it. 186 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:43,610 Last year was our best shot and Donner blew it. 187 00:06:43,890 --> 00:06:45,490 So after stewing about this all winter, 188 00:06:45,490 --> 00:06:47,250 you decided it was time for some payback? 189 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:48,501 Hey, all I did was get drunk one night 190 00:06:48,610 --> 00:06:49,450 and make a phone call. 191 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:50,450 Yeah, and a couple of nights later, 192 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:52,500 Donner gets drunk and he gets his head smashed in, 193 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,340 as you promised. 194 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:54,600 Come on. That was just talk. 195 00:06:54,820 --> 00:06:56,113 How'd you get his phone number? 196 00:06:56,196 --> 00:06:57,156 I read it in the papers. 197 00:06:57,239 --> 00:06:58,199 No, his new number. 198 00:06:58,325 --> 00:06:59,285 On the net. 199 00:06:59,580 --> 00:07:00,540 Everything's on the net. 200 00:07:01,180 --> 00:07:03,850 Come on, it's all up on that Web site-- 201 00:07:03,933 --> 00:07:06,769 www.getdonner.com. 202 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:08,556 You've got to be kidding me. 203 00:07:08,620 --> 00:07:09,840 We don't have that much imagination. 204 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:11,300 Six months after the fact, 205 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:13,010 the website still gets 30,000 hits a day. 206 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:14,940 Most of the stuff is harmless. 207 00:07:15,024 --> 00:07:16,901 You know, stupid Donner jokes and whatnot, 208 00:07:16,940 --> 00:07:18,240 but check it out, they have a message board. 209 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:21,325 "Hey, fellow Donner haters. 210 00:07:21,420 --> 00:07:23,320 "Think I just saw Donner shoving his stuff 211 00:07:23,420 --> 00:07:24,660 "in the back of a moving van. 212 00:07:24,860 --> 00:07:27,380 Guess his old lady hates him as much as the rest of us." 213 00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:29,250 Now, this entry started a landslide. 214 00:07:29,340 --> 00:07:30,200 People started writing in 215 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:31,803 whenever they saw Donner on the street, 216 00:07:31,980 --> 00:07:32,820 or in the subway. 217 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:33,840 They called it "Donner Watch." 218 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:35,660 Which is how they knew where to keep sending 219 00:07:35,820 --> 00:07:36,660 all the hate mail. 220 00:07:36,740 --> 00:07:38,420 I never thought I'd hear myself say this, 221 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:40,420 but I'm actually starting to feel real sorry for this dude. 222 00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:42,703 Hey, we were one out away from the World Series. 223 00:07:43,913 --> 00:07:44,873 Yo. 224 00:07:46,420 --> 00:07:47,920 All right. All right, we'll be there. 225 00:07:49,340 --> 00:07:50,180 It's the crime lab. 226 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,320 They got prints. 227 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,960 If I were you guys, 228 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,700 I'd steer clear of Latent for a while. 229 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,080 Why, they didn't see the challenge 230 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,707 in lifting prints off a broken bottle? 231 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,883 Any prints shattered along with the glass, 232 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,500 so they're fragmented like a jigsaw puzzle. 233 00:08:01,583 --> 00:08:02,960 You guys like jigsaw puzzles? 234 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,300 I love jigsaw puzzles. 235 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Want to know how I solved this one? 236 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,405 That's why we're here. 237 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,680 I bought a bottle of the same brand of scotch, 238 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,120 filled it with plaster, then broke it, 239 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,120 leaving a perfect mold. 240 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,780 Then I took the glass from the crime scene 241 00:08:13,905 --> 00:08:15,073 and glued it on that mold, 242 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,100 putting each piece in its proper place. 243 00:08:17,184 --> 00:08:18,144 Voilà. 244 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,380 Just like a jigsaw puzzle. 245 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,860 With the bottle now reconstituted... 246 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,200 You could lift the prints. 247 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Two sets. I ran them through BCI. 248 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,260 The first belonged to a Rooney, James. 249 00:08:29,344 --> 00:08:30,220 The bartender. 250 00:08:30,220 --> 00:08:30,720 And owner. 251 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,000 His prints are on file from when he applied for a liquor license. 252 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,570 What about the second set? 253 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,960 BCI kicked back a Grimes, Walter. 254 00:08:37,085 --> 00:08:38,045 Walter Grimes? 255 00:08:38,170 --> 00:08:39,680 Uh-huh. Here's the best part... 256 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:41,556 Yeah, convicted of murder second degree 257 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:42,940 in the killing of a young girl. 258 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,825 Drew 25 to life at Green Haven. 259 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,441 Yeah. How'd you know? 260 00:08:46,524 --> 00:08:47,660 He reads the front page 261 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:48,160 of the Times. 262 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,730 Walter Grimes was released from prison three months ago. 263 00:08:53,130 --> 00:08:55,690 Walter Grimes. Born Poughkeepsie, 1964. 264 00:08:56,290 --> 00:08:58,418 Arrested '83, convicted '84. 265 00:08:58,770 --> 00:08:59,610 Second-degree murder. 266 00:08:59,970 --> 00:09:02,070 Victim was Leeanne Testa, 15. 267 00:09:02,450 --> 00:09:03,290 Stabbed to death. 268 00:09:03,370 --> 00:09:04,210 A year ago, 269 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:05,790 when Grimes finally got a court order 270 00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:06,849 to test the DNA, 271 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:09,030 it turned out the blood that the cops found 272 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:11,590 on the knife in his apartment wasn't Leeanne Testa's. 273 00:09:11,970 --> 00:09:13,890 Property still have the evidence? 274 00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:14,730 ME's office. 275 00:09:14,730 --> 00:09:15,650 This is pre-DNA. 276 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:16,990 They tested it for serology. 277 00:09:17,330 --> 00:09:19,749 After the trial, it went to the Medical Examiner's 278 00:09:19,874 --> 00:09:21,030 and never made it back 279 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:21,530 to the police lab. 280 00:09:21,530 --> 00:09:22,390 It's lucky for Grimes. 281 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:23,734 The police lab would've destroyed it 282 00:09:24,090 --> 00:09:25,010 after he got convicted. 283 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:27,901 So, Grimes didn't kill Testa. 284 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:29,290 Good for him. 285 00:09:29,490 --> 00:09:31,570 Question is, did he kill Brendan Donner? 286 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:33,050 Grimes's prints are a 12-point match 287 00:09:33,050 --> 00:09:34,010 to the ones on that liquor bottle. 288 00:09:34,130 --> 00:09:35,410 There are eight people in that bar 289 00:09:35,610 --> 00:09:37,230 who ID'd him from a photo array. 290 00:09:37,313 --> 00:09:38,481 They all saw him bash Donner's skull in. 291 00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:40,650 I'll get an arrest warrant. 292 00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:43,850 We have any idea where Mr. Grimes is now? 293 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,770 Department of Corrections can't compel him 294 00:09:45,810 --> 00:09:46,650 to give an address 295 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:48,650 because he was exonerated, not paroled. 296 00:09:49,270 --> 00:09:52,481 Grimes's a jailhouse lawyer or did he have some help? 297 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:55,470 Rodney Fallon-- the New York Exoneration Project. 298 00:09:56,110 --> 00:09:57,950 I'm sure Mr. Fallon keeps in touch 299 00:09:58,030 --> 00:09:59,330 with his success stories. 300 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:05,730 So far, the New York Exoneration Project has gotten 301 00:10:05,870 --> 00:10:07,496 almost 50 innocent people released, 302 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:08,950 and we're looking at hundreds of other cases. 303 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:11,330 And I'll bet each and every one of them didn't do it. 304 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:13,618 Obviously, they're not all innocent. 305 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:14,797 But if even a single one is, 306 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:15,910 don't you think it's our obligation 307 00:10:16,110 --> 00:10:16,990 to see to it that they don't spend 308 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:18,028 a minute longer in jail? 309 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:20,590 I'll bet you can count the number of guys in jail 310 00:10:20,590 --> 00:10:22,690 who are genuinely innocent on one hand. 311 00:10:22,910 --> 00:10:24,810 You know how many felonies the average criminal commits 312 00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:26,491 before he gets caught, let alone convicted? 313 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:28,470 I'm well aware of the police statistics. 314 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:30,170 It's about the same as the number of times 315 00:10:30,270 --> 00:10:32,450 you speed on the Thruway without getting a ticket. 316 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:33,990 So what're you're saying, Detective, 317 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:35,830 we shouldn't try to exonerate defendants 318 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:37,230 who were wrongly convicted? 319 00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:38,106 Yeah, sure we should try, 320 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:39,690 but just don't tell me they're all innocent. 321 00:10:39,950 --> 00:10:42,119 Gentlemen, can we talk about Walter Grimes, please? 322 00:10:43,270 --> 00:10:44,770 An outright travesty of justice. 323 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:47,820 His lawyer was a 25-year-old legal aid attorney 324 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,260 trying his third case. 325 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Oh, he caught a bad break. 326 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,940 That alone should've got him a new trial. 327 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,620 DNA proved he didn't kill Leeanne Testa. 328 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,100 Which won't happen this time. 329 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,444 Look, we may not have DNA, 330 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,500 but we got your client's fingerprints on the bottle 331 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:02,660 he used to fracture Brendan Donner's skull. 332 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,060 We don't know what happened that night. 333 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,420 Maybe Walter was defending himself. 334 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,306 Why don't we ask him ourselves? 335 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Yeah, where we can find him? 336 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,411 We've got a warrant for his arrest. 337 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,360 I'd rather you didn't speak 338 00:11:10,486 --> 00:11:11,487 to Walter if I'm not present. 339 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,968 What, are you still his lawyer? 340 00:11:13,051 --> 00:11:14,000 If you have a warrant, I am. 341 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,480 Then you should know you have an obligation 342 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,840 to surrender your client. 343 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,600 I know what my obligations are. 344 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,080 Then you won't mind 345 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,080 giving us his address. 346 00:11:26,835 --> 00:11:27,878 Open up! 347 00:11:29,129 --> 00:11:30,255 Hey, did you hear that? 348 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:32,520 I don't hear nothing. 349 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,800 Yeah, it sounded like a plaintive cry for help 350 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,820 coming from this apartment. 351 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:37,400 Open the door. 352 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,880 You say so. 353 00:11:40,495 --> 00:11:42,080 Mr. Grimes? 354 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,260 He's ain't here. 355 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:49,140 Hey, Ed, you always leave your phone book out? 356 00:11:49,140 --> 00:11:50,520 Only if I've been using it. 357 00:11:50,603 --> 00:11:52,021 Yeah. 358 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,180 It's an old P.I. trick. 359 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:55,460 If you had it open to a certain page, 360 00:11:55,460 --> 00:11:56,560 it bends the spine. 361 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:00,067 It'll open there. 362 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:02,860 Hotels. Some cheaper than others. 363 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:04,584 Where do we start? 364 00:12:05,140 --> 00:12:07,000 At the bottom and work our way up, I guess. 365 00:12:11,755 --> 00:12:13,840 Oh, yeah, I remember this guy. 366 00:12:13,924 --> 00:12:15,008 He was here. Was? 367 00:12:15,133 --> 00:12:17,010 Checked out earlier today. 368 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:18,627 About 4:00 this afternoon. 369 00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:20,780 Six hours ago. 370 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:22,140 Now, that's a hell of a coincidence. 371 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:24,475 No wonder Fallon gave up Grimes' address so easy. 372 00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:26,100 Yeah, he knew Grimes wasn't going to be home, 373 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:27,660 and he drops a dime to his favorite client 374 00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:29,640 as soon as we're out the door. Lawyers. 375 00:12:30,020 --> 00:12:31,240 This is me being surprised. 376 00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:33,780 You asked me where Walter lived, 377 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:34,940 I gave you his primary residence. 378 00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:36,546 Hey, man, don't get smart with us! 379 00:12:36,580 --> 00:12:37,420 I wouldn't dream of it. 380 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:38,260 You couldn't keep up. 381 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:40,340 All right, let's all just take it down a notch. 382 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:44,682 Mr. Fallon, this is way past zealous representation here. 383 00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:46,010 I can't tell you where he went. 384 00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:47,770 It's arguably privileged information. 385 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:51,906 Well, consider it negotiating a fugitive's peaceful surrender. 386 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:56,110 I'll get him to come in. 387 00:12:56,350 --> 00:12:58,050 Not a chance. I have no idea 388 00:12:58,230 --> 00:13:00,070 what he's capable of if he feels threatened. 389 00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:02,530 I can do this. 390 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:04,190 He trusts me. 391 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:07,580 All right. You've got two hours. 392 00:13:07,950 --> 00:13:09,830 Either we're going to arrest him for murder 393 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:12,090 or you for hindering prosecution. 394 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:15,650 He'll be here, I promise. 395 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:21,790 Tell me you didn't just agree 396 00:13:21,950 --> 00:13:23,530 to what I think you just agreed to. 397 00:13:23,655 --> 00:13:25,991 Please. 398 00:13:28,630 --> 00:13:30,390 I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. 399 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:33,915 How long's Fallon been in there? 400 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:34,790 45 minutes. 401 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:36,510 It's long enough to either talk Grimes down 402 00:13:36,630 --> 00:13:37,910 or book him a flight to Brazil. 403 00:13:38,590 --> 00:13:39,430 That's right. Let's go. 404 00:13:54,824 --> 00:13:55,784 Mr. Fallon. 405 00:13:57,050 --> 00:13:58,390 Looks like you put up a hell of a fight. 406 00:13:58,970 --> 00:13:59,810 Where's your client? 407 00:14:00,290 --> 00:14:01,430 And the first words out of your mouth 408 00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:02,410 better not be "privileged." 409 00:14:02,535 --> 00:14:03,495 He's not here. 410 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:05,353 I can see that. So where is he? 411 00:14:05,478 --> 00:14:07,650 You said you weren't going to interfere. 412 00:14:07,650 --> 00:14:09,530 You said you were gonna bring Grimes in. 413 00:14:09,650 --> 00:14:11,350 Looks like we both failed on our promises. 414 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:13,269 I tried to convince him to turn himself in 415 00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:14,249 to the authorities for his own good, 416 00:14:14,530 --> 00:14:16,090 but he was in no mood to go back to prison. 417 00:14:16,410 --> 00:14:17,453 How long has he been gone? 418 00:14:17,537 --> 00:14:18,704 Oh, ten minutes. 419 00:14:19,090 --> 00:14:20,810 Did he say where he was going? 420 00:14:20,810 --> 00:14:23,150 And don't forget what we said about that word "privilege." 421 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:27,450 He took my wallet. 422 00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:29,850 Said he needed to get to his cousin's in Providence. 423 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:44,280 Hey! Police! Don't move! 424 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:46,911 Grimes, hold it right there! 425 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:48,260 Stop right there! 426 00:14:48,283 --> 00:14:49,409 Grimes! 427 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:51,360 Take it easy. All right. 428 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:53,620 I'm not going back there! I'm not going back there. 429 00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:55,020 I'll die before I go back there! 430 00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:56,080 Just let the lady go. 431 00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:57,900 Keep away from me. 432 00:14:58,020 --> 00:14:58,900 Let's talk this over. 433 00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:00,798 Look, no gun, okay? 434 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:02,820 Look, I know 435 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:03,960 you were innocent before. 436 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:05,240 I just want to talk to you. 437 00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:06,500 Let the lady go, please. 438 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:07,340 All right? 439 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:08,640 Just let her go and we can talk. 440 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:12,060 It's over, man. Let her go, Grimes, now! 441 00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:18,600 I can't go back there. 442 00:15:18,683 --> 00:15:20,184 I can't. 443 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:27,940 Judge Hinkle didn't think twice 444 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:29,200 about remanding Grimes. 445 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,140 After holding a woman hostage, 446 00:15:31,140 --> 00:15:31,980 I should hope not. 447 00:15:32,085 --> 00:15:33,462 Rodney Fallon. 448 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:36,089 Pleasure. 449 00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:39,640 I don't think Mr. Grimes is eligible 450 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,680 for the Exoneration Project's services 451 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,820 this time, Mr. Fallon. 452 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,414 Well, I don't see why he wouldn't be. 453 00:15:44,563 --> 00:15:45,403 Walter is innocent. 454 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:46,404 Then can he 455 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,780 explain his fingerprints on the murder weapon 456 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,959 and the eyewitnesses at the bar? 457 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,600 Or his behavior 458 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,926 when he saw two NYPD detectives? 459 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,660 Taking a hostage isn't exactly consistent with innocence. 460 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,171 Well, that depends on how you define innocence. 461 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,453 I'd define an innocent person 462 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,020 as someone who didn't commit the crime. 463 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,840 Or someone whom the law recognizes 464 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,880 should not be held responsible for his actions. 465 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,580 A defendant can't be convicted 466 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,400 if he didn't act with mens rea-- criminal intent. 467 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,500 He brained a man with a liquor bottle. 468 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,360 Walter Grimes was convicted of a crime he didn't commit. 469 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,534 If he hadn't gone to prison for 20 years, 470 00:16:20,618 --> 00:16:21,680 as an innocent man, 471 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,140 he never would have attacked Brendan Donner. 472 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,400 What are you saying, prison made him do it? 473 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,240 It certainly 474 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,880 changed him... profoundly. 475 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,460 He absolutely wasn't the same man 476 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,400 when he came out. 477 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,687 I'm sorry the system failed you, Mr. Grimes, 478 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,320 but a wrongful conviction 479 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,590 does not earn anyone a free pass on murder. 480 00:16:38,715 --> 00:16:39,716 You're sorry? 481 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,385 How about 482 00:16:41,970 --> 00:16:43,730 before rushing to judgment-- again-- 483 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:44,810 you at least 484 00:16:44,810 --> 00:16:47,605 have your shrink evaluate him? 485 00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:48,970 There's no reason to be anxious. 486 00:16:49,170 --> 00:16:50,630 We're just having a conversation. 487 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:52,450 I ain't anxious. 488 00:16:53,050 --> 00:16:54,969 What makes you think I'm anxious? 489 00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:57,617 Do you know why you're here? 490 00:16:57,890 --> 00:17:01,102 My lawyer says because of what happened to me in prison, 491 00:17:01,170 --> 00:17:02,010 I lose control. 492 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:04,290 What do you think? 493 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:05,210 I spent 20 years 494 00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:06,950 in prison for something that I didn't do. 495 00:17:07,130 --> 00:17:08,630 I don't have control over nothing! 496 00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:12,986 How can I lose what I don't have? 497 00:17:13,010 --> 00:17:15,570 You're talking about Leeanne Testa's murder. 498 00:17:15,890 --> 00:17:17,070 Of course that's what I'm talking about. 499 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:19,090 The police said I killed that girl. 500 00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:20,510 I'd never even met her. 501 00:17:20,970 --> 00:17:21,810 They found a bloody 502 00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:24,850 knife in your apartment with your fingerprints on it. 503 00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:26,330 They planted that knife. 504 00:17:26,414 --> 00:17:27,374 The police? 505 00:17:27,490 --> 00:17:30,118 Yeah, the police. I had an alibi. 506 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,150 They didn't believe me. 507 00:17:33,730 --> 00:17:35,930 But this time, you did kill someone. 508 00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:38,030 You killed Brendan Donner. 509 00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:41,670 He laid hands on me. 510 00:17:43,030 --> 00:17:46,510 And that justified killing him? 511 00:17:46,510 --> 00:17:49,221 I bumped into him by accident, 512 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:51,330 but this guy, he gets all freaky on me-- 513 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:52,670 in my face-- 514 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:54,470 telling me the whole world's against him. 515 00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:56,950 And you thought hitting him with a bottle 516 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:58,904 was an appropriate response? 517 00:17:59,350 --> 00:18:00,630 I didn't think about it. 518 00:18:01,550 --> 00:18:02,390 He grabbed me. 519 00:18:03,630 --> 00:18:05,710 A guy comes at you, you don't think twice, 520 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:06,670 you just put him down. 521 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:09,490 You stop to think about what to do, you're dead. 522 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:16,230 Walter Grimes is legally sane. 523 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:17,070 But? 524 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:18,870 But I'm sure his lawyer can find experts 525 00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:20,870 who will say that his experience in prison 526 00:18:21,070 --> 00:18:22,690 so programmed him, that he lacked 527 00:18:22,830 --> 00:18:25,490 the ability to appreciate that his conduct was wrong. 528 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:26,790 It turned him into a killer? 529 00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:29,590 Well, they'll argue that he couldn't differentiate 530 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:31,670 between his old environment and his new one. 531 00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:33,890 He couldn't tell the difference 532 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:35,110 between Rooney's Tavern 533 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,650 and the exercise yard at Green Haven? 534 00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:38,693 Exactly. 535 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,680 The defense will get a gaggle of psychiatrists 536 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,220 to say that Grimes lacked the ability 537 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,180 to curtail a lethal instinct 538 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,300 developed by two decades in prison. 539 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,560 I'd feel sorry for a man 540 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,760 who lost that much of his life 541 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,860 on a wrongful conviction. 542 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,400 If Fallon gets this in front of a jury, 543 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,320 you could have a problem. 544 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,560 You're moving to preclude 545 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,240 this defense, Mr. McCoy? 546 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,640 Your Honor, it's ridiculous. 547 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,647 Under Mr. Fallon's theory, 548 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,580 every ex-con would have a defense for murder. 549 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,560 But we're not talking about 550 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,220 men who were criminals before going to prison. 551 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,600 We're talking about a man who was completely innocent 552 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,880 before being sent to Green Haven 553 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,290 and was profoundly, and irrevocably changed, 554 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,040 and not for the better by the experience. 555 00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:26,125 And prison erased 556 00:19:26,209 --> 00:19:27,585 his sense of right and wrong? 557 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,140 In a manner of speaking, yes. 558 00:19:29,224 --> 00:19:30,184 It maimed him. 559 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,300 It dehumanized him. 560 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,260 It replaced traditional notions of right and wrong 561 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:34,880 with a kill-or- be-killed reflex 562 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,935 that led tragically to Brendan Donner's death. 563 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:38,020 That doesn't meet 564 00:19:38,020 --> 00:19:39,540 the New York standard, Your Honor. 565 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:42,413 Either Mr. Grimes didn't know what he was doing was wrong, 566 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:45,240 or he didn't understand the nature of his behavior. 567 00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:47,900 Simply reacting to a perceived threat 568 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:48,980 because he thought he was in 569 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:50,900 a hostile environment doesn't cut it. 570 00:19:51,020 --> 00:19:52,900 He wasn't in prison. He was in a bar, Your Honor. 571 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:54,060 He completely overreacted. 572 00:19:54,143 --> 00:19:55,103 Exactly. 573 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:57,080 Walter Grimes completely overreacted 574 00:19:57,420 --> 00:19:59,680 because of how his prison experience shaped him. 575 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:00,580 You have an expert 576 00:20:00,580 --> 00:20:01,900 who will back your theory, Mr. Fallon? 577 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,800 I've got five of them, Your Honor. 578 00:20:02,925 --> 00:20:04,380 Fax their CVs over to me. 579 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:05,220 If they're credible, 580 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:06,800 I'm inclined to let this go to a jury. 581 00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:09,260 You don't think that there might be something 582 00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:10,336 to Grimes's defense? 583 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:12,080 People adapt to their environment, 584 00:20:12,380 --> 00:20:13,260 in or out of prison. 585 00:20:13,403 --> 00:20:14,243 He knew where he was 586 00:20:14,243 --> 00:20:15,786 and how he was supposed to act. 587 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:17,700 How do we know he wasn't a bad apple 588 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:19,694 before rotting in prison for 20 years? 589 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:23,240 Fallon's already conceded this defense only applies 590 00:20:23,780 --> 00:20:25,360 if Grimes was a law-abiding citizen 591 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:27,360 before being shipped off to Green Haven. 592 00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:29,703 Leeanne Testa's murder was his first arrest. 593 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:32,470 How old was he at that time? 594 00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:33,310 Nineteen. 595 00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:35,062 Well, if he had committed any prior crimes, 596 00:20:35,550 --> 00:20:36,750 it might have been as a juvenile. 597 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:38,710 And those records would be sealed. 598 00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:40,470 I'm sure that under the circumstances, 599 00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:41,890 you could convince a judge 600 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:43,090 to unseal those records. 601 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:44,950 If there are any. 602 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:48,570 What prosecutor wouldn't love 603 00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:50,587 a peek at a defendant's juvie record? 604 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:53,066 But if I unsealed it in every case, 605 00:20:53,230 --> 00:20:54,110 seal would have no meaning. 606 00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:55,730 This isn't a typical case. 607 00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:57,270 Mr. Grimes's defense 608 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:59,270 put his juvenile record directly at issue. 609 00:20:59,270 --> 00:21:00,890 He claims he had no criminal tendencies 610 00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:02,210 before he went to prison. 611 00:21:02,510 --> 00:21:04,179 So you want to look at his juvenile record, 612 00:21:04,262 --> 00:21:05,230 assuming that he has one, 613 00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:06,410 to determine if that's true. 614 00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:08,730 I'll tell you what-- I'll review 615 00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:09,790 the file in camera. 616 00:21:10,110 --> 00:21:11,111 If I find anything relevant, 617 00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:12,690 I'll make it available to you. 618 00:21:12,774 --> 00:21:13,630 Agreed? 619 00:21:13,630 --> 00:21:14,413 Thank you, Your Honor. 620 00:21:14,413 --> 00:21:15,498 Jackpot. 621 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:20,150 Grimes fits the textbook definition of a bad seed. 622 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:22,187 Arrests for school ground assault, 623 00:21:22,270 --> 00:21:24,110 menacing, auto stripping, 624 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:25,570 possession of stolen property. 625 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:27,750 But no convictions. 626 00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:29,690 The system kept cutting him loose. 627 00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:30,630 The closest he ever came 628 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:32,770 was a liquor store robbery when he was 15. 629 00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:34,830 He threatened the owner with a gun. 630 00:21:34,930 --> 00:21:36,014 Why did the ADA kick it? 631 00:21:36,650 --> 00:21:38,530 I don't know, but it makes one thing pretty clear. 632 00:21:39,010 --> 00:21:40,950 Even if Grimes didn't kill Leanne Testa... 633 00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:42,730 He was hardly an innocent man. 634 00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:48,090 Sure, I remember. 635 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:49,290 Guy sticks a gun in my face, 636 00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:50,930 I'm going to forget that? 637 00:21:50,930 --> 00:21:52,410 According to his juvenile records, 638 00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:53,730 the police arrested a young man 639 00:21:53,850 --> 00:21:54,990 named Walter Grimes. 640 00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:57,210 You're talking about that white kid, right? 641 00:21:57,210 --> 00:21:58,790 He would've been about 15 at the time. 642 00:21:58,873 --> 00:21:59,833 He didn't do it. 643 00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:00,930 As far as I know, 644 00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:02,270 they never caught he kid that did. 645 00:22:02,395 --> 00:22:03,939 But the police arrested him. 646 00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:05,270 I told the officer-- 647 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:07,530 Daniels, his name was Daniels-- 648 00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:09,070 I told Daniels the little pachuco 649 00:22:09,410 --> 00:22:11,370 who held me up was Hispanic. 650 00:22:11,410 --> 00:22:13,630 Daniels didn't believe me, but I saw what I saw. 651 00:22:13,755 --> 00:22:14,715 Are you sure? 652 00:22:14,798 --> 00:22:16,341 Sure I'm sure. 653 00:22:16,425 --> 00:22:17,890 How come Officer Daniels believe you? 654 00:22:17,890 --> 00:22:19,530 How come he arrested Walter Grimes? 655 00:22:19,530 --> 00:22:20,430 You'd have to ask him. 656 00:22:21,570 --> 00:22:22,430 You're talking about a case 657 00:22:22,530 --> 00:22:24,070 that was, like, 25 years ago. 658 00:22:24,290 --> 00:22:25,790 I know cops who remember every suspect 659 00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:26,910 they ever interrogated. 660 00:22:26,994 --> 00:22:27,995 Walter Grimes? 661 00:22:28,930 --> 00:22:30,100 Yeah, that's right. 662 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,820 Real punk, absolute white trash. 663 00:22:32,260 --> 00:22:34,380 This about that guy he killed in a bar? 664 00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:35,220 That's right. 665 00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:36,740 See, that's what you get when you let a guy 666 00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:38,120 like Grimes loose on society. 667 00:22:39,003 --> 00:22:39,843 He was exonerated. 668 00:22:39,843 --> 00:22:40,803 Whatever. 669 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,940 I'm looking into all of his priors. 670 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:46,013 If Grimes did this liquor store robbery, 671 00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:47,740 it would actually help a case that we're prosecuting, 672 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:49,520 but the store owner says that he didn't. 673 00:22:50,380 --> 00:22:52,020 What can I tell you? The old guy was wrong. 674 00:22:52,820 --> 00:22:53,880 But Grimes is white. 675 00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:56,060 The store owner said that the robber was Latino. 676 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:58,900 Look, the old man was so scared, he pissed himself. 677 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:00,920 All he saw was the gun, if that. 678 00:23:01,260 --> 00:23:02,980 Grimes the guy who held him up, I have no doubt. 679 00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:04,100 Except your gut 680 00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:05,400 isn't admissible, Detective. 681 00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:06,740 Which is why the DA 682 00:23:06,860 --> 00:23:08,040 kicked the robbery charge. 683 00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:09,280 Grimes did it. 684 00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:10,940 And it wasn't his first stickup, either. 685 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:12,500 That kid was born to go to jail. 686 00:23:12,723 --> 00:23:13,563 Have a good day. 687 00:23:13,563 --> 00:23:15,732 So we know Grimes wasn't 688 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:17,800 the choir boy his lawyer's been 689 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:19,775 saying he was, but we can't prove it? 690 00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:20,760 That's what it looks like. 691 00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:22,460 What about the knife? 692 00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:23,960 The one found at Grimes's apartment. 693 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:25,740 DNA confirmed that the blood on it 694 00:23:25,820 --> 00:23:27,060 wasn't Leeanne Testa's. 695 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:28,500 But it was someone's. 696 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,451 Let's see if we can find out whose. 697 00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:31,560 I'll have Briscoe and Green 698 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,980 contact the primary on the Testa case. 699 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,033 We got an anonymous tip about the Testa case, 700 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,600 judge signed a search warrant. 701 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,926 Off an anonymous tip? 702 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,580 Back in '84, we had a couple political appointees. 703 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,160 They let us take a few more 704 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,160 procedural short cuts than they do now. 705 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,062 Ah, the Reagan years. 706 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,412 Anyway, I went in with my partner 707 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720 and a team of five blues. 708 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,200 We searched from ceiling to cellar. 709 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,720 Yeah, you found the knife. 710 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,680 Wrapped in a dishrag. 711 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,620 It was hidden under a loose floorboard in his closet. 712 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,748 But the blood on the knife wasn't Leeanne Testa's. 713 00:23:58,873 --> 00:24:00,959 Hell of a thing-- this Fallon guy... 714 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,244 Yeah, the Exoneration Project. 715 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,780 Got a court order, 716 00:24:04,905 --> 00:24:06,320 did family DNA against the knife, 717 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,300 proved it wasn't Testa's. 718 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,288 Grimes always said the knife was planted. 719 00:24:11,413 --> 00:24:12,880 Well, 'course he'd say that. 720 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,040 Who knows? He probably killed somebody else. 721 00:24:15,123 --> 00:24:16,040 Yeah, that's why 722 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,583 we need to run that knife past forensics, 723 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,060 see if it matches any open cases. 724 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,818 Well, after Fallon had it tested, 725 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,090 it went back to the ME's office. 726 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,040 Ought to still be there. 727 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,920 So that day, 728 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,760 when you found the knife 729 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,509 in Grimes' apartment, anything strike you as fishy? 730 00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:28,860 Well, I didn't actually find it. 731 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:31,490 Some uniform, got his shield a few years back. 732 00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:33,399 Reynolds, Daniels, something like that. 733 00:24:33,482 --> 00:24:35,090 Not Kenny Daniels? 734 00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:37,090 Yeah, Kenny Daniels, that's it-- you know him? 735 00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:39,009 We were at the same house for a while, the 2-9? 736 00:24:39,170 --> 00:24:40,090 I ain't seen him in years. 737 00:24:40,530 --> 00:24:42,073 He the kind of cop that would plant evidence? 738 00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:43,650 Not the Kenny Daniels I knew. 739 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:45,250 He was a stickler. By the book. 740 00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:46,790 He drove me crazy. Thought I was a cowboy. 741 00:24:46,970 --> 00:24:48,830 He'd always say, "Dot your I's, cross your T's." 742 00:24:48,914 --> 00:24:50,916 People change. 743 00:24:54,850 --> 00:24:57,130 This is great, Ed. 744 00:24:57,130 --> 00:24:57,970 What is it, eight or ten years since I seen you, 745 00:24:57,970 --> 00:24:58,929 not even a phone call? 746 00:24:59,250 --> 00:25:01,150 Now you're on my doorstep, making accusations? 747 00:25:01,650 --> 00:25:02,890 Just questions, Kenny. 748 00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:05,010 Not accusations. Just questions. 749 00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:06,570 These the sort of "questions" 750 00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:09,151 I should have my PBA delegate present for? 751 00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:10,750 Look, I spoke to the DA's office. 752 00:25:12,130 --> 00:25:13,950 You arrested Grimes for a liquor store robbery 753 00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:15,550 that the owner swears up and down 754 00:25:15,650 --> 00:25:16,570 that the kid didn't commit. 755 00:25:16,653 --> 00:25:18,405 Mr. Magoo? 756 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:21,170 That old man was so blind, 757 00:25:21,170 --> 00:25:22,530 he couldn't tell his ass from his elbow. 758 00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:24,390 Grimes did that robbery, Ed, trust me. 759 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:25,529 Okay, but then you find 760 00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:28,990 a knife that puts the same guy away for a murder 761 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:30,750 that he absolutely did not commit. 762 00:25:31,670 --> 00:25:32,950 He goes to jail for 20 years. 763 00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:36,270 What? What is it, man? 764 00:25:36,270 --> 00:25:37,110 You couldn't get him 765 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:38,030 on the liquor store robbery, 766 00:25:38,030 --> 00:25:40,199 so you framed him for Leeanne Testa's murder? 767 00:25:40,510 --> 00:25:42,190 The liquor store had nothing to do with it. 768 00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:43,942 How do you think Grimes' prints got on that knife? 769 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:45,649 What do you think, I'm some kind of magician? 770 00:25:45,733 --> 00:25:47,193 I don't know, man. 771 00:25:47,593 --> 00:25:48,433 You tell me. 772 00:26:00,190 --> 00:26:01,410 Her name was Julie Sayer. 773 00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:05,770 She was 16, going on 12. 774 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:08,070 You know, innocent. 775 00:26:09,630 --> 00:26:11,170 The knife I found in Grimes' apartment. 776 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:12,670 It was his all right, 777 00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:14,370 but he didn't use it on Leeanne Testa. 778 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:17,510 He used it on Julie Sayer. 779 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:19,590 Slit her throat with it. 780 00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:22,610 There was no DNA testing back then. 781 00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:26,331 Same type, O positive, 782 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,240 so everyone assumed it was Leeanne's blood. 783 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,495 Well, if Grimes killed Julie Sayer, 784 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,015 why didn't you collar him for it? 785 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:33,040 I did. 786 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,880 Grimes was a creep. 787 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,900 I had witnesses who put him with the girl that morning. 788 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,660 I brought him in, he started 789 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,980 running his mouth, talking trash. 790 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,240 He even took a swing at me. 791 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,419 You didn't beat the dude down, did you? 792 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,100 Only time I ever lost it like that. 793 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,040 All I could see was that that dead girl 794 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,400 lying there with her throat cut. 795 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,360 Did Grimes give it up? 796 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,362 Oh, yeah, he told me how he killed Julie. 797 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,460 Told me how he hid the knife in a storm drain. 798 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,100 Told me exactly where to find it. 799 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,088 But what, the bust wasn't any good? 800 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,848 Lieu took one look at him, 801 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,920 one look at my knuckles, 802 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,200 he told me I had to kick him loose. 803 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,460 He told you to 86 the arrest. 804 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840 Try to find another way to make the case. 805 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,540 But if the confession was inadmissible, then... 806 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,560 The knife was, too. 807 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,220 There wasn't going to be 808 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,080 any justice for Julie Sayer. 809 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,880 I let Grimes go, 810 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,257 fished the knife out of the storm drain, 811 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:26,840 saved it for a rainy day. 812 00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:31,160 Then Leeanne Testa gets stabbed. 813 00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:35,660 Wound patterns were consistent with Grimes' knife. 814 00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:36,740 Blood type the same as Julie's. 815 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:38,060 Pieces fell into place. 816 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:39,540 You call in 817 00:27:39,540 --> 00:27:42,140 an anonymous tip, and then you "find" 818 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:43,640 the knife in Grimes' apartment. 819 00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:46,320 Why not? Grimes was guilty. 820 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:47,940 He was a murderer. 821 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:51,800 He was going to walk on the murder of Julie Sayer! 822 00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:53,500 He was going to walk because of me! 823 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,140 It was eating me up, Ed. 824 00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:00,120 I had to make it right. 825 00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:02,180 I had to balance 826 00:28:02,225 --> 00:28:04,269 the scales. 827 00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:17,460 At least he didn't frame an innocent man. 828 00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:19,525 No, he framed a guilty one. 829 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:21,680 The way he sees it, he kept Grimes 830 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,750 from falling through the cracks in the system. 831 00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:24,670 Well, somebody 832 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:25,590 should tell him not to do 833 00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:26,850 the system any more favors. 834 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:29,697 Regardless of his motivation, 835 00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:31,710 this is the worst kind of police misconduct. 836 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:34,510 Now, any appellate court would find that this 837 00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:36,170 "shocks the conscience" and so should we. 838 00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:38,310 Agreed, but he's all we've got. 839 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:39,728 Where's this lieutenant of his now? 840 00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:40,990 In the cemetery. 841 00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:42,890 He had a heart attack six years ago. 842 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:44,390 So no one but Daniels 843 00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:46,171 can say that Grimes killed Julie Sayer. 844 00:28:46,255 --> 00:28:47,215 No, but if we could 845 00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:49,930 prove he did, Fallon's defense strategy 846 00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:51,830 on the Donner murder goes out the window. 847 00:28:51,913 --> 00:28:52,914 Grimes was a murderer 848 00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:55,470 before he was ever shipped off to Green Haven. 849 00:28:56,110 --> 00:28:58,510 All right, we'll try him on the Sayer murder first. 850 00:28:58,830 --> 00:28:59,790 Only Grimes's confession 851 00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:02,150 is no more admissible today than it was 20 years ago. 852 00:29:02,830 --> 00:29:05,374 But, today, DNA analysis 853 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:09,510 will confirm that the blood on the knife is Julie Sayer's. 854 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:11,803 Oh, you know what Fallon's going to say about that. 855 00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:16,450 People versus Walter Grimes. 856 00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:17,890 Murder in the Second Degree. 857 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:19,910 How do you plead, Mr. Grimes? 858 00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:21,910 My client pleads not guilty, Your Honor. 859 00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:23,456 People on bail? 860 00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:24,750 The People seek remand. 861 00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:27,262 Mr. Grimes is accused of murdering a teenage girl, 862 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:28,410 stabbing her to death. 863 00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:29,450 Your Honor, this crime 864 00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:31,110 took place more than 20 years ago. 865 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:34,208 Mr. Grimes is also a suspect in a recent bar killing. 866 00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:36,010 Let the state try him on that charge, then. 867 00:29:36,135 --> 00:29:37,090 We intend to. 868 00:29:37,090 --> 00:29:39,134 Their physical evidence in this matter, Your Honor, 869 00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:41,650 the murder of Julie Sayer, the state has already used 870 00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:43,174 to convict my client of another crime, 871 00:29:43,174 --> 00:29:44,014 for which he's subsequently 872 00:29:44,014 --> 00:29:45,014 been exonerated. 873 00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:46,530 Is this true, Miss Southerlyn? 874 00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:48,157 That same DNA evidence, Your Honor, 875 00:29:48,290 --> 00:29:49,270 now accurately identifies 876 00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:51,250 which victim Mr. Grimes killed. 877 00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:53,030 Their star witness is the officer 878 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:54,510 who planted the knife and framed 879 00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:56,070 my client in the first case. 880 00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:57,650 Enough. 881 00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:58,590 Someone else can sort through 882 00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:00,170 the evidentiary issues, thank God. 883 00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:01,730 Since the People seem to have 884 00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:03,770 an ongoing interest in Mr. Grimes' whereabouts 885 00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:05,427 after this matter is concluded, 886 00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:06,970 I'm going to remand the defendant. 887 00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:08,430 Your Honor... That's it. 888 00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:10,734 Sorry, Mr. Fallon. Better luck next time. 889 00:30:10,817 --> 00:30:12,736 Next case. 890 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:15,890 The knife was planted in my client's apartment. 891 00:30:16,170 --> 00:30:17,010 By a police officer. 892 00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:18,890 The chain of custody remained intact. 893 00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:20,060 This is outrageous. 894 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:21,640 I can't believe you can stand there 895 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:22,960 and say that to me with a straight face. 896 00:30:23,260 --> 00:30:25,000 You're forgetting how that officer found the knife 897 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,300 in the storm drain in the first place. 898 00:30:26,420 --> 00:30:27,940 Your client told him where it was. 899 00:30:28,065 --> 00:30:29,066 He beat it out of him. 900 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:30,391 An improperly obtained confession. 901 00:30:30,474 --> 00:30:31,976 The knife is poisonous fruit. 902 00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:33,980 You're assuming that the police 903 00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:36,180 wouldn't have found it without Grimes's confession. 904 00:30:36,305 --> 00:30:37,306 They canvassed 905 00:30:37,306 --> 00:30:37,900 all over the city. 906 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,680 They would've never found it and you know it. 907 00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,160 Let's see what a judge thinks. 908 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:44,080 In the meantime, consider this your notice of our lab work. 909 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,180 We exhumed her body 910 00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:46,780 and extracted DNA from her bones. 911 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:48,817 The blood on the knife was Julie Sayer's. 912 00:30:49,060 --> 00:30:51,060 DNA's a double-edged sword, counselor. 913 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:53,860 DNA is persuasive, only if it's admissible. 914 00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:56,040 My motion to suppress the knife. 915 00:31:02,296 --> 00:31:03,547 Was he right? 916 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:05,459 About the DNA? 917 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:07,220 About the search-- Fallon just said 918 00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:09,040 the police looked high and low for the knife. 919 00:31:09,123 --> 00:31:10,333 That's right. 920 00:31:11,420 --> 00:31:13,300 Let's get the case's primary on the phone. 921 00:31:15,010 --> 00:31:17,512 Julie Sayer was 16. Pretty. 922 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,200 On the front page of the Post for weeks. 923 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,380 Bet your ass, we tore the city apart. 924 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,180 Do you remember searching on 190th Street 925 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,155 between Autobahn and Amsterdam? 926 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Where it happened. 927 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,680 We turned that neighborhood upside down. 928 00:31:29,764 --> 00:31:30,765 Storm drains? 929 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,960 We searched them all. 930 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,680 From Washington Heights to Inwood. 931 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,464 Would you be willing to sign an affidavit? 932 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 What, that we searched the storm drains? 933 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400 Every one in the area. 934 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,140 With a flashlight and a fine-tooth comb. 935 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,660 And didn't find a thing. 936 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,861 First the People concede that Detective Daniels, 937 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,918 who was then Officer Daniels, 938 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,360 questioned my client without counsel present 939 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,020 in clear violation of his Sixth Amendment rights. 940 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,660 And then they concede he assaulted my client 941 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,640 to obtain a confession 942 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,681 in violation of his Fifth Amendment rights, 943 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000 used that illegal confession to seize the knife 944 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640 in violation of my client's Fourth Amendment rights, 945 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,516 and as if that wasn't enough, 946 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,020 they freely admit he then planted the knife 947 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,600 to frame my client for a crime he didn't commit 948 00:32:04,725 --> 00:32:05,934 in violation of, at the very least, 949 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:07,102 his Fourteenth Amendment rights. 950 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,407 Are there any amendments the People haven't violated? 951 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,920 And now, now in what has to be 952 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,800 the single greatest demonstration 953 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,420 of legal chutzpah in the history of jurisprudence, 954 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,260 he contends the knife shouldn't be suppressed. 955 00:32:15,385 --> 00:32:16,512 Mr. McCoy, is this true? 956 00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:18,290 Every word, Your Honor. 957 00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:19,690 Then how can you argue in support 958 00:32:19,815 --> 00:32:20,770 of the knife's admission? 959 00:32:20,770 --> 00:32:23,210 Because of the inevitable discovery doctrine. 960 00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:25,730 The knife is admissible if the police would have 961 00:32:25,810 --> 00:32:27,710 eventually discovered it without the impropriety. 962 00:32:28,210 --> 00:32:29,050 How is that possible? 963 00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:29,890 They only found the knife 964 00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:30,810 because Officer Daniels 965 00:32:30,890 --> 00:32:32,210 planted it in my client's home. 966 00:32:32,336 --> 00:32:33,337 You said it yourself. 967 00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:34,796 The police canvassed the area 968 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:36,730 where the knife was originally hidden. 969 00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:37,850 I have an affidavit 970 00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:39,385 from Detective Johnson, 971 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:41,387 the primary on the case, 972 00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:42,610 who searched the storm drain 973 00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:43,910 where Grimes had hidden the knife. 974 00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:45,170 But it wasn't there to be found. 975 00:32:45,253 --> 00:32:46,213 Because Officer Daniels 976 00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:47,610 had already removed it. 977 00:32:47,652 --> 00:32:49,320 Under inevitable discovery, the issue is: 978 00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:50,410 What would have happened 979 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:53,439 but for Officer Daniels' wrongful conduct? 980 00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:55,090 The knife would have been in that storm drain 981 00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:56,770 for Detective Johnson to find. 982 00:32:56,853 --> 00:32:57,854 Exactly. 983 00:32:57,890 --> 00:32:58,730 Oh, this is outrageous. 984 00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:00,430 You're basically saying that Daniels's 985 00:33:00,690 --> 00:33:02,370 illegal conduct makes the knife admissible. 986 00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:03,530 It isn't that I don't 987 00:33:03,595 --> 00:33:04,555 see the irony, 988 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,610 but the evidence is admissible. 989 00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:07,770 He's got you, Mr. Fallon. 990 00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:11,370 Look, Mr. Grimes' confession remains inadmissible, 991 00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:12,370 but the knife comes in. 992 00:33:14,650 --> 00:33:16,510 Don't pop those champagne corks yet. 993 00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:17,950 No amount of fancy footwork 994 00:33:18,190 --> 00:33:19,270 is going to change the fact 995 00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:21,410 that your sponsoring witness is Kenny Daniels. 996 00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:24,366 I hate using him, but what choice do we have? 997 00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:26,210 A cop who admits he framed a guilty man 998 00:33:26,350 --> 00:33:28,010 for another crime, which he didn't commit. 999 00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:29,516 In service of the greater good. 1000 00:33:30,190 --> 00:33:31,310 That's what you'll tell the jury. 1001 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,390 What Fallon will tell them is that Daniels 1002 00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:35,810 is a vigilante with an ax to grind. 1003 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:38,230 Which is exactly what we need to prepare him for. 1004 00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:42,870 If I hadn't done what I did, Grimes was going to walk. 1005 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:45,030 Why are you making me out to be the bad guy? 1006 00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:47,650 Because you crossed the line, Detective. 1007 00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:49,810 And because that's what Rodney Fallon 1008 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:51,410 will do when you take the stand. 1009 00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:53,370 He's not the first shyster I've taken on. 1010 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:54,270 I can handle him. 1011 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:55,310 Let's hope he's the only 1012 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:56,910 whose client's been framed by you. 1013 00:33:58,150 --> 00:34:00,130 Okay. I deserve that. 1014 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:02,970 Grimes killed Julie Sayer. 1015 00:34:03,310 --> 00:34:04,150 He admitted it. 1016 00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:06,490 And because I screwed up, he was going walk. 1017 00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:08,710 That's a mistake I couldn't live with, 1018 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:10,750 and I'm not going to apologize for fixing it! 1019 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:11,590 If you don't, 1020 00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:13,980 he may walk on Julie's murder a second time. 1021 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,940 If the jury sees you as some kind of a vigilante 1022 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680 with no qualms about framing someone 1023 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,200 or planting evidence, 1024 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,140 they won't listen to a word you say. 1025 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,360 I screwed up 20 years ago, but by making it right, 1026 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,760 it's the best thing I've ever done. 1027 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,040 You really want me to say I feel sorry when I don't? 1028 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,400 You're a police officer 1029 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,500 and you put yourself above the law! 1030 00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:40,795 I can't believe you have no regrets about that. 1031 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Yeah, I have some regrets. 1032 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920 That I gave him a beating and I screwed up the case. 1033 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,920 What, do you want me to lie? 1034 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,980 I want you to acknowledge what it is 1035 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,500 I know you must be feeling. 1036 00:34:49,625 --> 00:34:50,585 And that's what? 1037 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:51,600 Guilt. 1038 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,760 Guilt about what? 1039 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,720 Guilt at having been so arrogant 1040 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,060 as to put yourself above the law. 1041 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,920 Planting the knife was wrong. 1042 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,980 What I did was wrong. 1043 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,761 I was trying to do right, 1044 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,520 but now I see the ends didn't justify the means. 1045 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,840 I'm sure you understand 1046 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,620 people may view whatever testimony you'd offer 1047 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:18,040 against Walter Grimes with a certain amount of skepticism. 1048 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,520 I made one mistake 20 years ago. 1049 00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:21,859 And since then? 1050 00:35:21,940 --> 00:35:23,660 I've told the truth and played by the rules. 1051 00:35:27,789 --> 00:35:28,749 Have you? 1052 00:35:28,874 --> 00:35:29,834 Yes. 1053 00:35:29,959 --> 00:35:31,335 "One mistake." 1054 00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:34,200 You admit you framed my client 1055 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:35,580 for the murder of Leeanne Testa. 1056 00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:37,800 I admit to framing him for one murder 1057 00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:39,100 because he committed another. 1058 00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:40,660 The one he's on trial for here. 1059 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:41,500 You don't get to be 1060 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:43,020 judge and jury this time, Mr. Daniels. 1061 00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,180 He confessed to me that he killed Julie Sayer. 1062 00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:47,100 A confession you beat out of him. 1063 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:48,960 Which mistake do you regret-- 1064 00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,578 beating my client or planting evidence against him? 1065 00:35:52,703 --> 00:35:54,580 Both. 1066 00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:56,280 So that's two mistakes. 1067 00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:59,300 Tell me, is there anyone who can corroborate your story? 1068 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,140 Just your client. 1069 00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:01,929 My client maintains his innocence, 1070 00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:03,700 which means we're left with your word. 1071 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,526 Then you're left with my word, and I'm telling the truth. 1072 00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:06,860 But I don't believe you, Mr. Daniels. 1073 00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:07,700 You've been obsessed 1074 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:08,820 with getting my client for decades. 1075 00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:09,938 Since he was a kid, haven't you? No. 1076 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,970 You arrested him for a liquor store robbery 1077 00:36:12,054 --> 00:36:13,221 that was committed by someone else. 1078 00:36:13,346 --> 00:36:14,347 I stand by that arrest. 1079 00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:15,510 Even though the owner said 1080 00:36:15,615 --> 00:36:16,575 the robber was Latino? 1081 00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:18,038 And then, on another occasion, 1082 00:36:18,163 --> 00:36:19,373 you assaulted Mr. Grimes. 1083 00:36:19,373 --> 00:36:20,213 He was a suspect. 1084 00:36:20,213 --> 00:36:21,173 He attacked me, Counselor, 1085 00:36:21,298 --> 00:36:22,258 and I defended myself. 1086 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:24,610 He was in your custody and you beat him bloody. 1087 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:28,010 Like I said, I regret that. 1088 00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:30,230 Then you framed him for Leeanne Testa's murder. 1089 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:32,510 And I've got nothing to gain by admitting it. 1090 00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:34,910 In fact, I'm throwing away my career and my pension. 1091 00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:38,486 Your career and pension mean nothing to you, do they? 1092 00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:40,990 Not compared to your vendetta against Walter Grimes. 1093 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:50,110 Enjoy the show? 1094 00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:50,970 You held up okay. 1095 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:53,270 What are you doing here? 1096 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:54,110 It's my case. 1097 00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:57,130 Thought maybe you came to gloat. 1098 00:36:58,070 --> 00:37:00,573 Now, why would I do that? We're friends. 1099 00:37:00,870 --> 00:37:01,710 I thought we were. 1100 00:37:03,110 --> 00:37:04,730 Don't try to turn this around on me, Kenny. 1101 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:05,990 You put yourself in this circus. 1102 00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:08,430 DA's could've made their case on that bar room fight 1103 00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:09,430 without dredging this up 1104 00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:10,890 and dragging me into the middle of it. 1105 00:37:11,010 --> 00:37:12,230 We had no choice. You did. 1106 00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:15,610 You could have let it go, Ed. 1107 00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:20,004 You don't want justice for Julie Sayer? 1108 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,790 I already had justice for Julie Sayer. 1109 00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:33,382 I don't know what I ever did to him, 1110 00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:36,150 but he's had it in for me since I was kid. 1111 00:37:37,090 --> 00:37:38,730 He was the cop on the beat in our neighborhood 1112 00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:39,990 and he always hated me. 1113 00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:42,390 He's had it in for me since day one. 1114 00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:44,810 Detective Daniels seems to think 1115 00:37:44,970 --> 00:37:46,210 you were an incorrigible criminal 1116 00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:47,450 who should be taken off the street. 1117 00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:49,756 Look, I never said I was a saint, 1118 00:37:50,290 --> 00:37:52,490 but the things he said I did, I didn't do. 1119 00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:55,490 But in respect to Julie Sayer's murder, 1120 00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:57,200 your fingerprints are on the knife, 1121 00:37:57,490 --> 00:37:58,370 along with her blood. 1122 00:37:58,453 --> 00:38:00,330 It's, it's my knife. 1123 00:38:00,414 --> 00:38:01,873 I never denied that. 1124 00:38:02,570 --> 00:38:03,410 Of course it's going to have 1125 00:38:03,413 --> 00:38:04,450 my prints on it. 1126 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:05,826 And Julie Sayer's blood? 1127 00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:08,818 Daniels is police, right? 1128 00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:10,700 He could get as much of her blood as he wanted. 1129 00:38:10,825 --> 00:38:11,993 There's nothing 1130 00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:13,540 this guy won't do to burn me. 1131 00:38:13,665 --> 00:38:14,625 Nothing. 1132 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,540 You sound paranoid, Mr. Grimes. 1133 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:25,140 It ain't paranoia if someone's really out to get you. 1134 00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:26,380 This Daniels is. 1135 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,420 Yet you admit you don't know why. 1136 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:30,880 You'd have to ask him. 1137 00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:32,058 No, I'm asking you. 1138 00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:33,580 I don't know. 1139 00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:34,660 Maybe he's crazy. 1140 00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:37,520 So you're saying Detective Daniels somehow 1141 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:40,700 manufactured the bloody knife evidence in this case? 1142 00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:42,020 Come on, he framed me before. 1143 00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:44,280 I spent 20 years in prison 1144 00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:46,660 for killing a person I never even laid eyes on. 1145 00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:48,700 That's irrelevant, Mr. Grimes. 1146 00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,980 20 years of my life is irrelevant? 1147 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:53,140 Your fingerprints are on the knife. 1148 00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,840 Julie Sayer's blood is on the knife. 1149 00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:57,881 How did all that get there? 1150 00:38:57,964 --> 00:38:58,924 Objection. 1151 00:38:58,924 --> 00:38:59,460 Daniels put it there. 1152 00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:01,462 How did Detective Daniels get your knife? 1153 00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:03,860 It is not incumbent upon the defendant 1154 00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:05,920 to prove how Detective Daniels did anything. 1155 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:07,640 He's making all these assertions, 1156 00:39:07,765 --> 00:39:09,100 he must have some idea. 1157 00:39:09,183 --> 00:39:10,360 I don't know how. 1158 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,570 He framed me, okay? 1159 00:39:11,695 --> 00:39:13,200 I never killed anybody. 1160 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,480 You didn't you kill Brendan Donner three months... 1161 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,320 Objection, Your Honor. Objection! 1162 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,840 after being released from prison by smashing 1163 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,289 his head in with a liquor bottle? 1164 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,920 This is outrageous. 1165 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,038 Accusing him of murder? 1166 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,520 The defendant denied it. 1167 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,180 I have every right to attack his credibility. 1168 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,760 He hasn't been convicted in that case. 1169 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,800 He hasn't even been tried. 1170 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,320 But he did raise a not responsible defense. 1171 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,780 Which is an admission that he killed Brendan Donner. 1172 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,201 And if the defendant denies that, 1173 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,340 I'll put Dr. Olivet on the stand to impeach him. 1174 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,600 You goaded him into the denial 1175 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,780 so you could bring in the other case 1176 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,920 to poison the minds of the jury. 1177 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360 They call that cross-examination, Mr. Fallon. 1178 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,720 Sorry, Counsel, your client opened the door 1179 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:51,740 and put out the welcome mat. 1180 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,100 If I were you, I'd talk to Mr. McCoy about a plea. 1181 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,960 Forget it, McCoy. 1182 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,740 I'll argue that Grimes killed Donner because 1183 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,160 Daniels's vendetta against him turned him into a murderer. 1184 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,060 You don't have to posture, Mr. Fallon. 1185 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,120 Your client's not here. 1186 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,120 I don't have to posture 1187 00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:07,850 because I still have Kenny Daniels to vilify. 1188 00:40:08,090 --> 00:40:09,630 Which means nothing, unless you can 1189 00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:11,230 paint Grimes as the victim here. 1190 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:12,750 A victim is exactly what he is. 1191 00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:14,179 A victim of police misconduct, 1192 00:40:14,330 --> 00:40:16,070 a victim of the entire criminal justice system. 1193 00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:17,835 The jury's not here either, 1194 00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:19,850 so let's not pretend we don't know 1195 00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:22,390 the crimes your client committed as a juvenile. 1196 00:40:22,850 --> 00:40:25,436 Let's not pretend he didn't kill Julie Sayer. 1197 00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:27,150 And let's not pretend Daniels wasn't out there 1198 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:28,050 playing judge and jury. 1199 00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:31,030 Detective Daniels is not on trial here, Grimes is. 1200 00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:34,450 And Grimes is the one who slit a woman's throat. 1201 00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:37,510 Grimes is the one who crushed a man's head. 1202 00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:39,105 You seem to forget that, 1203 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:41,070 but I'm going to make sure the jury remembers. 1204 00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:42,970 They're going to want someone to pay. 1205 00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:45,350 Trust me, it won't be Kenny Daniels. 1206 00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:53,290 20 years in prison almost killed Walter Grimes. 1207 00:40:55,450 --> 00:40:57,530 I'll give him credit for those 20 years. 1208 00:40:59,770 --> 00:41:03,524 If he allocutes. 1209 00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:08,190 I killed Julie Sayer. 1210 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:10,830 I knew her from around. 1211 00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:12,010 I had the hots for her. 1212 00:41:12,094 --> 00:41:14,263 But she... 1213 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:17,030 Doesn't matter why I did it. 1214 00:41:17,113 --> 00:41:20,325 I just... 1215 00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:23,161 I followed her one night. 1216 00:41:23,830 --> 00:41:24,970 I grabbed her, she said no. 1217 00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:26,170 I stabbed her, that's it. 1218 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:29,350 There's nothing more to say. 1219 00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,519 Mr. Grimes, 1220 00:41:31,602 --> 00:41:32,950 since you're pleading guilty 1221 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:34,450 to murder in the second degree 1222 00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:36,630 with a sentence of 25 years to life, 1223 00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:39,130 and since the terms of your plea agreement 1224 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:41,224 are that in exchange for this allocution, 1225 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:42,830 you are to be given credit 1226 00:41:43,390 --> 00:41:45,684 for the 20 years you served in Green Haven, 1227 00:41:46,070 --> 00:41:47,150 your remaining sentence 1228 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:49,890 on the murder of Julie Sayer is five years. 1229 00:41:49,973 --> 00:41:51,600 I understand, Your Honor. 1230 00:41:51,683 --> 00:41:52,630 And the parties 1231 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:53,590 have also reached a plea 1232 00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:56,129 with respect to the murder of Brendan Donner? 1233 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:56,990 We have. 1234 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:59,242 The defendant has waived his right to trial 1235 00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:02,490 and will plead guilty to first degree manslaughter. 1236 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,480 I'm accepting the defendant's 1237 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000 plea and imposing a sentence of seven-and-a-half 1238 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,200 to 15 years to be served consecutively 1239 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,180 with the aforementioned five. 1240 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,240 I don't need company. 1241 00:42:26,505 --> 00:42:27,345 Maybe I do. 1242 00:42:27,345 --> 00:42:28,388 Irish, 1243 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,440 rocks on the side. 1244 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,960 He pled out. 1245 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,740 All's well that ends well. 1246 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,659 So how's it end for you? 1247 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,920 I've been encouraged to take an early retirement. 1248 00:42:53,715 --> 00:42:55,050 Well... 1249 00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:57,010 um... 1250 00:42:57,094 --> 00:42:59,721 I'm sorry. 1251 00:43:02,020 --> 00:43:05,080 Don't be. I did what I had to do. 90398

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