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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,713 --> 00:00:06,506 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:06,589 --> 00:00:07,632 the people are represented 3 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:10,260 by two separate yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:10,343 --> 00:00:12,178 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:12,303 --> 00:00:15,056 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:15,181 --> 00:00:17,350 These are their stories. 7 00:00:17,434 --> 00:00:19,519 How many times have I told you, 8 00:00:19,602 --> 00:00:21,521 put it where you can find it. 9 00:00:21,604 --> 00:00:22,897 What are pockets for? 10 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:25,191 Now I'm not sure if I had it with me. 11 00:00:25,317 --> 00:00:26,026 You had it. 12 00:00:26,151 --> 00:00:27,402 Mom, it stinks in here. 13 00:00:27,485 --> 00:00:29,904 Of course it stinks-- it's garbage. Now dig. 14 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:30,989 I'm so over curry. 15 00:00:31,072 --> 00:00:32,615 You know, you're going to be grounded 16 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:34,409 for life if it's up to your father. 17 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:36,870 You know how he hates it when you lose things. 18 00:00:36,953 --> 00:00:39,080 Hey, Mom, look at this. 19 00:00:39,205 --> 00:00:40,915 Oh, my God, that's a hand! 20 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:42,876 Okay, just drop it, drop it. Now! 21 00:00:43,001 --> 00:00:44,294 Ew! Come on. 22 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:47,380 He was looking for his what? 23 00:00:47,505 --> 00:00:48,214 His braces. 24 00:00:48,256 --> 00:00:50,341 They're plastic nowadays. Removable. 25 00:00:50,425 --> 00:00:51,217 He find 'em? 26 00:00:51,259 --> 00:00:53,053 Not yet. He did, however, find a hand. 27 00:00:53,178 --> 00:00:54,971 Just one? They usually come in pairs. 28 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:57,348 The restaurant says that they put their garbage out 29 00:00:57,432 --> 00:00:59,434 at 10:00 last night right after they closed. 30 00:00:59,517 --> 00:01:01,895 It was supposed to be picked up this morning, 31 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:03,521 but the carting company didn't show up. 32 00:01:03,605 --> 00:01:05,815 So the hand could have been dumped on the pile 33 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:07,233 anytime the last 22 hours. 34 00:01:07,317 --> 00:01:09,069 Detectives. 35 00:01:09,152 --> 00:01:10,779 Found this in a Dumpster on Fourth Street. 36 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:11,905 Oh, God, don't tell me. 37 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:14,032 I'm guessing those two belong to each other. 38 00:01:14,115 --> 00:01:15,950 Hardwick, I need you to get some help. 39 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:17,952 I want you to check every trash can, Dumpster 40 00:01:18,036 --> 00:01:19,954 and garbage bag between First and Second Avenue, 41 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,289 from Houston to St. Marks. 42 00:01:21,414 --> 00:01:22,874 You kidding me? 43 00:01:22,957 --> 00:01:24,584 Do I look like I'm kidding? 44 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:31,174 Captioning sponsored by UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION 45 00:01:31,257 --> 00:01:33,760 NBC 46 00:01:33,885 --> 00:01:36,388 ...AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE STYLISH 2004 TOYOTA CAMRY. 47 00:01:36,471 --> 00:01:38,098 GET THE FEELING. 48 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:18,471 about 50, five-nine to five eleven, 190 to 200 pounds. 49 00:02:18,596 --> 00:02:19,597 Dismembered postmortem. 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,392 Amputation was done using a very sharp utensil. 51 00:02:22,517 --> 00:02:25,645 Blood was drained before the body parts were wrapped. 52 00:02:25,729 --> 00:02:27,188 Sounds like a neat freak. 53 00:02:27,272 --> 00:02:28,898 Yeah, meticulous, to say the least. 54 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:30,108 Cause of death? 55 00:02:30,191 --> 00:02:31,901 No head, no heart, no way to tell. 56 00:02:32,027 --> 00:02:33,028 Time of death? 57 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:34,487 Given the cold weather, 58 00:02:34,612 --> 00:02:38,199 I'd say roughly 24 hours before the first pieces were found. 59 00:02:38,283 --> 00:02:40,744 Absence of rodent feeding makes me think 60 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:44,372 they were in the garbage no more than a couple of hours. 61 00:02:44,456 --> 00:02:45,415 Victim had arthritis. 62 00:02:45,498 --> 00:02:47,876 Both knees had arthroscopic surgery. 63 00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:49,919 And I'm betting he used a cane. 64 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:52,422 The palm of his right hand is callused. 65 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:54,674 Doctor Rodgers, you brought your "A" game today. 66 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:56,051 You got a home address for us, too? 67 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:58,011 No, but smell his hand. 68 00:02:59,012 --> 00:02:59,888 Menthol? 69 00:02:59,971 --> 00:03:02,348 Mentholated propylene glycol. 70 00:03:02,432 --> 00:03:03,391 Pro-pa what? 71 00:03:03,475 --> 00:03:04,601 It's hand sanitizer. 72 00:03:04,642 --> 00:03:09,105 There's a mentholated version for people with arthritis. 73 00:03:09,230 --> 00:03:12,025 He used some shortly before his death. 74 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:15,945 Here we've have the contents of the garbage bag 75 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:17,447 from Sixth Street, where the first hand was found. 76 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:19,616 That's from the Fourth Street Dumpster. 77 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:20,825 The Fifth Street garbage. 78 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:24,162 And the garbage can from St. Marks Place and Second Avenue, 79 00:03:24,245 --> 00:03:26,498 which covers everything we've found so far. 80 00:03:26,581 --> 00:03:27,665 And? 81 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:32,003 People from St. Marks Place eat too much Thai takeout. 82 00:03:32,087 --> 00:03:33,546 Okay, you're not in the mood. 83 00:03:33,630 --> 00:03:36,424 The bags that held body parts were all one brand-- 84 00:03:36,549 --> 00:03:37,592 'Tough Boy' five gallon. 85 00:03:37,675 --> 00:03:39,260 Not one of your major brands. 86 00:03:39,344 --> 00:03:41,346 But one other Tough Boy bag 87 00:03:41,429 --> 00:03:43,932 was found in the Fourth Street Dumpster, 88 00:03:44,057 --> 00:03:46,142 full of nothing but ordinary household garbage. 89 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:48,436 But it could be the victims... or the killer's. 90 00:03:48,561 --> 00:03:50,605 Or some third party who just happens to use 91 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:52,107 the same brand trash bag. 92 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:54,025 You get any usable prints? 93 00:03:54,109 --> 00:03:55,443 Nope. Just smears. 94 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:56,611 Runner's Digest? 95 00:03:56,695 --> 00:03:58,446 Our guy used a cane. 96 00:03:58,530 --> 00:03:59,864 Anybody can dream. 97 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:02,117 Somebody cut out page 35. 98 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,869 And somebody liked fruit. A lot. 99 00:04:04,953 --> 00:04:05,912 I like fruit. 100 00:04:06,037 --> 00:04:07,956 Yeah, but when you buy it, where do you go? 101 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:09,124 Supermarket? 102 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:10,917 Heaven forbid. Fruit stand. 103 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:12,585 So if this is the victim's garbage... 104 00:04:12,711 --> 00:04:15,463 With his knees, he probably shopped close to home. 105 00:04:15,547 --> 00:04:18,550 There's a whole lot of fruit stands in the East Village. 106 00:04:18,633 --> 00:04:22,095 What the hell, maybe I can pick up a couple of Granny Smiths. 107 00:04:27,142 --> 00:04:28,768 Tell ya what, more than once, I thought about 108 00:04:28,893 --> 00:04:30,353 cracking that numskull over the head 109 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:31,646 with that freakin' cane of his. 110 00:04:31,771 --> 00:04:32,689 What a pain in the culo. 111 00:04:32,814 --> 00:04:33,732 Guy gets one bad apple, 112 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:35,608 tells me I should give him a dozen free. 113 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:36,609 Hey, you know his name? 114 00:04:36,651 --> 00:04:38,528 He's a customer, not a bowling buddy. Why? 115 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:39,738 Something happen to him? 116 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:40,989 What makes you say that? Wishful thinking. 117 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:41,990 You know where he lives? 118 00:04:42,073 --> 00:04:43,700 You ever deliver groceries to him? 119 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:44,659 This is not 120 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:46,161 a full-service fruit stand, Detective. 121 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:47,245 Strictly cash and carry. 122 00:04:47,329 --> 00:04:49,497 Hey, is that hand sanitizer? 123 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:50,749 Anti-bacterial. 124 00:04:50,874 --> 00:04:53,668 Flu season-- I can't take a chance. 125 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:54,753 It won't help. The flu's a virus. 126 00:04:54,794 --> 00:04:57,047 I haven't had so much as a sniffle in two years. 127 00:04:57,172 --> 00:04:58,631 That's like taking antibiotics for a cold, 128 00:04:58,715 --> 00:04:59,716 it's a scam. 129 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:01,343 You sell this stuff? 130 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:03,053 Maxson's-Around-the-Corner. 131 00:05:03,178 --> 00:05:04,220 Around the corner where? 132 00:05:04,346 --> 00:05:05,430 That's the name of it. 133 00:05:05,513 --> 00:05:08,183 Maxson's-Around-the-Corner. 134 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:09,517 Sure, I know Roger. Why? 135 00:05:09,642 --> 00:05:11,686 Do you know where we can find him? 136 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:13,146 He lives in the neighb. 137 00:05:13,271 --> 00:05:14,522 In here all the time. 138 00:05:14,606 --> 00:05:17,233 He's like dandruff, you can't get rid of him. 139 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:19,319 Roger have a last name? 140 00:05:19,444 --> 00:05:20,528 Obnoxious? 141 00:05:20,612 --> 00:05:22,739 Like it's my fault the price of coffee went up? 142 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:24,032 Hey, does Roger Obnoxious 143 00:05:24,157 --> 00:05:25,784 ever pay with a credit card or a check? 144 00:05:25,867 --> 00:05:27,035 We don't take credit cards, 145 00:05:27,077 --> 00:05:29,287 and we definitely don't take checks from guys like Roger. 146 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:31,081 Do you carry Runner's Digest? 147 00:05:31,206 --> 00:05:33,583 Magazines are in the back by the pet food. 148 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:34,626 How'd you know? 149 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:35,668 How'd he know what? 150 00:05:35,752 --> 00:05:36,836 Roger bought a copy 151 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,670 of Runner's Digest. 152 00:05:37,754 --> 00:05:38,630 Did you remember that 153 00:05:38,713 --> 00:05:40,548 'cause Roger got bad knees? 154 00:05:40,673 --> 00:05:43,176 I remember that 'cause Roger never bought 155 00:05:43,301 --> 00:05:44,677 anything but skin mags. 156 00:05:44,803 --> 00:05:47,305 Okay, we're looking for a crotchety 50-year-old 157 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:50,350 black or Latino pain-in-the-ass who walks with a limp, 158 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:53,019 uses a cane and likes to look at dirty pictures. 159 00:05:53,103 --> 00:05:55,438 And who's training for the marathon. 160 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:56,272 Page 35. 161 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:57,649 The one that was cut out. 162 00:05:57,732 --> 00:05:59,651 Somehow I don't think this guy's a marathon man. 163 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:00,652 What's on the other side? 164 00:06:02,237 --> 00:06:03,488 There you go. 165 00:06:03,571 --> 00:06:04,489 What, the ad? 166 00:06:04,614 --> 00:06:05,573 I don't think a guy with bad knees 167 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:07,409 who complains about the price of coffee 168 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:09,244 is going to be looking at $300 running shoes. 169 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:11,496 Not the shoes, the dude in the shoes. 170 00:06:11,621 --> 00:06:13,373 Now you're telling me he's got a crush on this guy? 171 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:14,791 What about the girlie magazines? 172 00:06:14,874 --> 00:06:16,459 Maybe he swings both ways. 173 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:18,545 Great. So now we're looking for 174 00:06:18,670 --> 00:06:21,214 a bisexual 50-year-old pain in the ass 175 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:24,551 who walks with limp, carries a cane, and whistles "Dixie" 176 00:06:24,634 --> 00:06:26,261 as he walks down the highway. 177 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:27,887 His name's Roger Barry. 178 00:06:27,971 --> 00:06:29,556 Haven't seen him in ten years. 179 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:31,683 And you're right, he's not a runner. 180 00:06:31,766 --> 00:06:32,684 He was a boxer. 181 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:34,853 Oh, yeah? What name did he fight under? 182 00:06:34,936 --> 00:06:36,855 Dad. Daddy Dearest. The Old Man. 183 00:06:36,938 --> 00:06:37,981 Roger's your father? 184 00:06:38,106 --> 00:06:38,940 My mom finally got tired 185 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:40,692 of being his punching bag, and split. 186 00:06:40,775 --> 00:06:41,735 Took me with her. 187 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:42,610 Haven't seen him since. 188 00:06:42,694 --> 00:06:43,820 If you haven't been in touch with him 189 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:44,988 all these years, 190 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:46,865 how'd he know about your picture in the magazine? 191 00:06:46,948 --> 00:06:48,241 Called me up out of the blue. 192 00:06:48,324 --> 00:06:50,326 Said he wanted to know how I turned out. 193 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:51,745 So I told him about the ad. 194 00:06:51,828 --> 00:06:53,663 Let him eat his heart out for a change. 195 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:55,749 You got an address for your father? 196 00:06:55,832 --> 00:06:57,167 That much forgive and forget 197 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:59,085 I was definitely not interested in. 198 00:06:59,169 --> 00:07:00,503 What's this all about, anyway? 199 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:01,463 He in trouble? 200 00:07:01,504 --> 00:07:02,714 We're just trying to find him, that's all. 201 00:07:02,797 --> 00:07:03,798 Sorry. 202 00:07:03,923 --> 00:07:04,841 You got a phone number? 203 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:06,092 Told me he didn't have one. 204 00:07:06,176 --> 00:07:07,719 Must've called me from a pay phone. 205 00:07:07,844 --> 00:07:08,803 What'd your dad do 206 00:07:08,887 --> 00:07:10,305 after he hung up the gloves? 207 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:11,723 Longshoreman. 208 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:12,891 Thanks. 209 00:07:12,974 --> 00:07:15,226 The Union's must have had 210 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:18,563 to send his pension checks someplace. 211 00:07:22,859 --> 00:07:23,777 Mr. Barry won't like this. 212 00:07:23,818 --> 00:07:25,445 Of course, he don't like much of anything. 213 00:07:25,528 --> 00:07:27,322 Say, don't you need a warrant or something? 214 00:07:27,405 --> 00:07:29,282 We would if we suspected Mr. Barry of wrongdoing. 215 00:07:29,366 --> 00:07:30,575 Well, he still won't like it. 216 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:31,576 Hey, Ed. 217 00:07:31,701 --> 00:07:33,495 Yeah. 218 00:07:35,246 --> 00:07:36,831 Does this look like blood to you? 219 00:07:36,915 --> 00:07:37,999 Yep. I'm calling CSU. 220 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:40,710 Something happened to that rat bastard in my building? 221 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:42,545 It's a little too soon to tell. 222 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:43,797 Something happened to him, 223 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,925 I know some people who are going to start celebrating. 224 00:07:47,008 --> 00:07:48,426 Well, good, and you're going 225 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:50,303 to give me their names, aren't you. 226 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:51,554 Yeah, apartment 2-E. 227 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:53,723 Just go downstairs and read the buzzers. 228 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:56,142 Whole building complained about him. 229 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:57,268 CSU's on their way. 230 00:07:57,394 --> 00:07:58,853 Who complained the loudest? 231 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:00,730 Manny Esperanza, down the hall. 232 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:03,692 Said Mr. Barry was stealing his newspapers. 233 00:08:03,775 --> 00:08:06,194 Oh, yeah? Where can we find this guy? 234 00:08:06,277 --> 00:08:07,195 St. Jude's Hospital. 235 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,738 He's an orderly. 236 00:08:08,863 --> 00:08:10,448 That would give him access 237 00:08:10,532 --> 00:08:12,701 to things that go cut in the night. 238 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:14,786 I don't know what happened to Mr. Barry. 239 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:15,829 I'm a medical professional. 240 00:08:15,954 --> 00:08:17,455 Yeah. You and Dr. Kervorkian. 241 00:08:17,539 --> 00:08:18,415 He don't work here. 242 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:19,708 Look, look, I'm on triple shifts. 243 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:21,876 I ain't even been home the last three days. 244 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,086 Talk to my supervisor. 245 00:08:23,211 --> 00:08:24,129 Don't worry, we will. 246 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:25,422 Why you busting my chops? 247 00:08:25,547 --> 00:08:27,674 Everybody in the building hated his guts. 248 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:28,675 Ask his girlfriend. 249 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:30,468 She's going to say that everybody hated him? 250 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:32,178 She'll tell you, the thing with the newspapers? 251 00:08:32,303 --> 00:08:33,513 He started it. 252 00:08:33,596 --> 00:08:35,890 Course she's deaf, she couldn't hear what kind of nonsense 253 00:08:36,015 --> 00:08:37,392 was coming out of his big mouth. 254 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:38,893 What an unpleasant personality. 255 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:40,687 This girlfriend have a name? 256 00:08:40,812 --> 00:08:41,855 Jennifer something... 257 00:08:41,938 --> 00:08:43,315 Do you know where she lives? 258 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,652 Across the hall from him. 259 00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:50,155 Don't you need probable cause for a warrant? 260 00:08:50,238 --> 00:08:51,322 You're a judge now? 261 00:08:51,406 --> 00:08:52,532 I'm just saying... 262 00:08:53,742 --> 00:08:55,577 Sorry, Irv. This is where you get off. 263 00:08:57,662 --> 00:08:59,873 Got a yearbook here. 264 00:08:59,956 --> 00:09:01,374 Cedar Hill Academy. 265 00:09:01,458 --> 00:09:02,917 Shelby... Shelby... 266 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:03,918 Here she is. 267 00:09:04,044 --> 00:09:05,003 Jennifer Shelby. 268 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:06,880 Her back in high school, anyway. 269 00:09:06,963 --> 00:09:09,591 She graduated from Cedar Hill, class of '79. 270 00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:12,761 From fancy girls' school to a crappy one-room apartment? 271 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,430 Maybe we should pay Cedar Hill a visit. 272 00:09:15,513 --> 00:09:17,849 I think they're on the Upper East Side. 273 00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:18,933 Hey, Ed. 274 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:23,813 Whoa. 275 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:26,441 You can do some serious damage with that bad boy. 276 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:28,860 Yeah, like take somebody apart joint by joint. 277 00:09:28,943 --> 00:09:29,903 Looks pretty clean. 278 00:09:30,028 --> 00:09:30,904 Wait a minute. 279 00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:33,740 There's a little residue here at the handle. 280 00:09:33,865 --> 00:09:36,701 Man, CSU's going to get sick of coming to this building. 281 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:43,541 Jennifer hasn't been to any events 282 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,710 since I've been alumni director at Cedar Hill. 283 00:09:45,794 --> 00:09:46,878 Is that because she's deaf? 284 00:09:46,961 --> 00:09:48,046 Whatever gave you that idea? 285 00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:50,757 In fact, I spoke to her on the phone just last month 286 00:09:50,882 --> 00:09:51,883 about the Annual Fund. 287 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:53,218 Annual Fund? Wait a minute. 288 00:09:53,343 --> 00:09:55,095 The Jennifer Shelby that we're looking for 289 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:57,263 lives in a six-story walkup on East 4th Street. 290 00:09:57,347 --> 00:09:59,891 Are you sure you have the right Jennifer Shelby? 291 00:09:59,974 --> 00:10:02,143 You know what? You tell us. 292 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:06,940 This Jennifer-- our Jennifer-- lives on 63rd and Park. 293 00:10:07,023 --> 00:10:09,609 She's married to Ross Teller. 294 00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:11,403 The real estate mogul? 295 00:10:11,528 --> 00:10:13,446 That's right. What's this all about? 296 00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,657 Are you talking to every Jennifer Shelby 297 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:16,700 in New York City? 298 00:10:16,825 --> 00:10:18,118 How many of us can there be? 299 00:10:18,243 --> 00:10:19,869 This Jennifer Shelby had a copy 300 00:10:19,995 --> 00:10:21,913 of the Cedar Hill Academy yearbook, 1979. 301 00:10:21,996 --> 00:10:23,832 You mean, she's impersonating me 302 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:25,917 and her name really isn't Jennifer Shelby. 303 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:27,502 That's what it looks like. 304 00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:29,921 How the hell did she get a copy of the yearbook? 305 00:10:30,004 --> 00:10:31,589 People clean out their closets-- 306 00:10:31,673 --> 00:10:32,882 put things on the street. 307 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,384 What did this person do, anyway? 308 00:10:34,509 --> 00:10:36,594 She's a suspect in a murder investigation. 309 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,015 Evan Barry gave us DNA. 310 00:10:41,099 --> 00:10:43,184 The dismembered body is his father, Roger Barry. 311 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,311 The blood that we found in Roger Barry's bathtub drain 312 00:10:45,395 --> 00:10:46,521 matches the blood on the knife 313 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:48,857 that we found in the fake Jennifer Shelby's apartment. 314 00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:50,483 And all that blood belongs to? 315 00:10:50,567 --> 00:10:51,693 Roger Barry. 316 00:10:51,735 --> 00:10:53,695 We know where he was cut up and what he got cut up with. 317 00:10:53,778 --> 00:10:54,821 And the real Jennifer Shelby? 318 00:10:54,904 --> 00:10:56,156 She's as baffled as we are. 319 00:10:56,281 --> 00:10:57,782 She has no idea who this other woman is. 320 00:10:57,866 --> 00:11:00,869 We've got plainclothes officers sitting on her apartment, 321 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,412 just in case she returns. 322 00:11:02,537 --> 00:11:04,706 Whoever she is, she had to pay the rent. 323 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,796 Only met her once, when she came in to sign the lease. 324 00:11:11,921 --> 00:11:13,214 Roger Barry referred her. 325 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:15,300 I can't believe he's dead. Shocking. 326 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:17,010 She put down a security deposit? 327 00:11:17,093 --> 00:11:18,887 Yeah, first and last month's. Cash. 328 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:19,971 I remember that. 329 00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:22,307 Nice new crisp new hundred dollar bills. 330 00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:24,684 How did she pay the rent every month? 331 00:11:24,768 --> 00:11:25,727 Money order. 332 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:26,811 Uh, we need copies. 333 00:11:26,895 --> 00:11:27,979 Not a problem. 334 00:11:28,063 --> 00:11:29,856 I hope she's not in trouble. 335 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:31,858 Hey, she's the perfect tenant. 336 00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:34,444 Never complains-- not a peep out of her. 337 00:11:35,362 --> 00:11:37,364 Funny. Just get us the money orders. 338 00:11:37,447 --> 00:11:39,157 Sure, I sold these. 339 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,658 Jennifer Shelby... 340 00:11:40,742 --> 00:11:42,702 Yeah, late 30s, early 40s, 341 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:44,871 thin, brown hair, deaf. 342 00:11:44,996 --> 00:11:46,581 Oh, the deaf lady, sure. 343 00:11:46,664 --> 00:11:47,707 You seen her lately? 344 00:11:47,791 --> 00:11:48,833 About once a month. 345 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:51,586 Comes in here, buys one for rent, one for Con Ed. 346 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:53,838 I ain't seen her since last month. Sorry. 347 00:11:53,922 --> 00:11:55,548 All right, man, thanks. 348 00:11:55,632 --> 00:11:56,674 Hey, wait. 349 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:58,968 My friend Jaime told me he seen her at a meeting. 350 00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:01,763 What kind of meeting? You know, not AA. 351 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,640 What's the other one? For drugs? 352 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:04,974 NA? Narcotics Anonymous? 353 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:06,559 Yeah, that's it. At the church. 354 00:12:06,643 --> 00:12:09,729 St. Alphonsus Liguri. Fourth and A. 355 00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:11,690 All right. 356 00:12:11,815 --> 00:12:13,775 You know, we're not allowed to talk about who's here 357 00:12:13,858 --> 00:12:16,194 and what goes on, and as far as last names go... 358 00:12:16,277 --> 00:12:17,904 Believe me, I know the drill. 359 00:12:18,029 --> 00:12:18,947 You a friend of Bill's? 360 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:20,532 Yep, for many years. 361 00:12:20,615 --> 00:12:22,242 Then you know my hands are tied. 362 00:12:22,367 --> 00:12:23,868 They're gonna be in handcuffs in a minute 363 00:12:23,994 --> 00:12:24,953 if you don't start talking. 364 00:12:24,995 --> 00:12:27,247 This woman's wanted for questioning in a murder. 365 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:29,290 Jennifer Shelby? A murder? 366 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:31,084 Am I getting through to you now, Marty? 367 00:12:31,209 --> 00:12:32,752 Well, she's been at a bunch of meetings. 368 00:12:32,836 --> 00:12:34,671 She's a nice girl far as I can tell. 369 00:12:34,754 --> 00:12:36,923 She's deaf-- how'd she participate? 370 00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:38,049 Well, she reads lips. 371 00:12:38,133 --> 00:12:39,551 Somehow she manages. 372 00:12:39,634 --> 00:12:41,469 We offered to get her an interpreter, 373 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,096 but she wasn't interested. 374 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:44,806 When was the last time she was here? 375 00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:46,099 Last week. 376 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:48,518 By the way, Mr. Narcotics Anonymous, 377 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,478 how come you know her last name? 378 00:12:50,562 --> 00:12:52,397 She was handing out these flyers. 379 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,024 She's got a painting hanging 380 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:57,527 in this gallery show down the street. 381 00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,739 She never gave me a contact number. Sorry. 382 00:13:00,822 --> 00:13:02,699 What if you sold one of her paintings? 383 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:06,327 I hold the money for her till she gets in touch with me. 384 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:07,871 That's Jenny's. 385 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:12,250 It's a lot like her-- mysterious, brooding, secretive. 386 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:13,585 I kind of like it. 387 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,628 I don't know if I could live with it, but... 388 00:13:15,712 --> 00:13:18,048 My idea of modern art is Leroy Neiman. 389 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:19,466 She signed it. It's dated last month. 390 00:13:19,591 --> 00:13:20,842 You know what, she didn't have 391 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,178 any paints in her apartment-- canvasses, nothing. 392 00:13:23,261 --> 00:13:25,096 A lot of our artists rent studio space 393 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:26,848 in the Co-op on Avenue C. 394 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:28,391 You're in luck. 395 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,976 Jen's been here all day. 396 00:13:30,101 --> 00:13:31,519 She's on a creative jag. 397 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:34,898 I used to have those, only I called them benders. 398 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:37,025 This's Jen's studio. I'll let you guys be. 399 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:38,526 Uh, would you mind unlocking the door? 400 00:13:38,652 --> 00:13:39,944 She's not gonna hear us knock. 401 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:41,654 Right, I forgot. 402 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,576 There you go. 403 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:48,286 Thanks. 404 00:13:52,123 --> 00:13:53,833 How do we get her attention? 405 00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:55,168 I don't want to scare her. 406 00:13:55,251 --> 00:13:57,962 Maybe she can feel vibration. 407 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:01,925 Whoa, wait! 408 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:03,009 Hey, hey, hey! 409 00:14:03,134 --> 00:14:06,012 All right... 410 00:14:13,061 --> 00:14:14,562 People v. Eli Madison. 411 00:14:14,646 --> 00:14:16,648 Charge is murder in the second degree. 412 00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:18,525 How does the defendant plead? 413 00:14:18,608 --> 00:14:19,818 Not guilty, Your Honor. 414 00:14:19,943 --> 00:14:20,819 Ms. Southerlyn? 415 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,696 The accused is charged with murdering 416 00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:25,573 his 50-year-old neighbor and hacking him into pieces. 417 00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:27,200 I imagine you're requesting remand. 418 00:14:27,325 --> 00:14:28,660 Your turn, Mr. Archer. 419 00:14:28,785 --> 00:14:31,538 Mr. Madison is a scion of one of New York's best known families. 420 00:14:31,621 --> 00:14:32,247 Yes, and I remember reading 421 00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,665 about him in all the papers, 422 00:14:33,748 --> 00:14:35,000 what was it, ten years ago? 423 00:14:35,125 --> 00:14:37,669 Those accusations were false, Your Honor. 424 00:14:37,752 --> 00:14:39,337 They shouldn't be taken into consideration now. 425 00:14:39,421 --> 00:14:40,630 The defendant has been living 426 00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:42,173 under an assumed name. 427 00:14:42,257 --> 00:14:45,260 To avoid the negative publicity that almost destroyed him. 428 00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:47,262 Jennifer Shelby, Your Honor. 429 00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:49,014 Excuse me, Counselor? His assumed name 430 00:14:49,097 --> 00:14:52,183 and false identity-- he's been living as a woman, Your Honor. 431 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,019 Better and better. 432 00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:55,228 Bail is set at $2 million. 433 00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:56,855 Defendant will surrender 434 00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,106 his passport. 435 00:14:58,189 --> 00:15:01,401 Next. 436 00:15:01,484 --> 00:15:02,318 Is this the same Eli Madison 437 00:15:02,444 --> 00:15:04,279 whose wife went missing ten years ago? 438 00:15:04,362 --> 00:15:05,488 The same Eli Madison 439 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:08,283 Adam Schiff could never quite indict for her murder. 440 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:09,659 Why not? 441 00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:11,369 Because her body was never found. 442 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,289 Eli claimed she just walked out on him one day. 443 00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:15,915 She's never been seen since. 444 00:15:15,999 --> 00:15:17,625 How good a case was it? 445 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:21,379 The police found traces of Caroline Madison's blood 446 00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:24,049 in their bedroom, evidence of a missing rug, 447 00:15:24,174 --> 00:15:26,926 and a dryer full of freshly washed sheets. 448 00:15:27,052 --> 00:15:29,346 That had to be quite a sight, 449 00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:31,097 Eli Madison doing his own laundry. 450 00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:34,142 Eli could never really account for his movements that day. 451 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:36,394 Lots of gaps and inconsistencies, 452 00:15:36,478 --> 00:15:39,189 and his alibi was his best friend. 453 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:40,940 And after the story broke 454 00:15:41,066 --> 00:15:44,361 and Madison was questioned by the police, he fled the country. 455 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,029 Evidence of consciousness of guilt. 456 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:47,447 It sounds pretty solid. 457 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:50,575 Lots of bits and pieces, but never quite enough. 458 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:52,410 And the Madisons had clout. 459 00:15:52,494 --> 00:15:54,245 This office has tried a couple of homicides 460 00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:57,374 without a body, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. 461 00:15:57,499 --> 00:15:59,376 What about this case? 462 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:01,378 We have a body. Most of one, anyway. 463 00:16:01,503 --> 00:16:02,921 Unfortunately, not the parts 464 00:16:03,004 --> 00:16:04,297 that would tell us cause of death. 465 00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:05,423 What are we missing? 466 00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:07,425 The head, the heart. 467 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:09,135 We'll have to trust the jury to draw 468 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,303 the obvious conclusion. 469 00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:11,763 Which may not be all that obvious 470 00:16:11,888 --> 00:16:13,932 when it comes time to deliberate. 471 00:16:14,015 --> 00:16:15,266 He's got Al Archer, 472 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:18,853 who will blow a lot of expensive smoke up the jury's skirt. 473 00:16:18,937 --> 00:16:21,356 We can handle Archer and his legions of experts, Arthur. 474 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:22,691 He also churns 475 00:16:22,774 --> 00:16:25,318 more documents than the Land O' Lakes girl churns butter. 476 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:26,611 Let him churn. 477 00:16:26,736 --> 00:16:27,654 The facts don't disappear. 478 00:16:27,779 --> 00:16:29,030 No, but they can be spun, 479 00:16:29,114 --> 00:16:31,282 along with the jury. 480 00:16:31,366 --> 00:16:34,202 And I'd feel a lot better if we had a motive. 481 00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:39,374 Well, let the churning begin. 482 00:16:39,457 --> 00:16:43,545 Motion for a change of venue. 483 00:16:43,628 --> 00:16:46,631 Had I known, I'd have rented 484 00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,717 a banquet hall. 485 00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:50,301 Well, because of the nature of the case 486 00:16:50,385 --> 00:16:53,346 and the difficulty and the variety of the issues involved, 487 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:54,723 Mr. Madison has authorized me 488 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:56,891 to retain cocounsel on his behalf. 489 00:16:57,017 --> 00:16:58,893 This is Ron Gumer from Hanson Brackens. 490 00:16:58,977 --> 00:17:00,895 He'll be advising on matters forensic. 491 00:17:00,979 --> 00:17:02,022 Your Honor. 492 00:17:02,105 --> 00:17:03,982 Madeline Myers from the Prescott firm. 493 00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:06,067 She'll be dealing with the DNA evidence. 494 00:17:06,151 --> 00:17:09,195 Sir. And Professor Enright, who I'm sure you know, 495 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,031 wrote the book on venue, literally. 496 00:17:11,114 --> 00:17:13,241 The more the merrier. 497 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,493 I assume this is your party, Professor. Thank you, Your Honor. 498 00:17:15,577 --> 00:17:19,247 As we're all aware, the critical consideration 499 00:17:19,330 --> 00:17:22,167 of the venue provisions is whether the defendant 500 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:23,501 can get a fair trial 501 00:17:23,585 --> 00:17:26,296 in the community in which the crime occurred. 502 00:17:26,421 --> 00:17:30,383 "Millionaire Murderer." 503 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,385 "Mayflower Maniac." 504 00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:35,263 "Seven-Figure Sadist." 505 00:17:35,346 --> 00:17:36,848 "Wealthy Wife Killer." 506 00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,767 As we can see from these headlines, 507 00:17:38,850 --> 00:17:40,352 a jury in this jurisdiction 508 00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:43,480 cannot possibly approach this case with an open mind. 509 00:17:43,605 --> 00:17:45,482 The entire jury pool has been poisoned. 510 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:47,567 Those headlines are ten years old. 511 00:17:47,651 --> 00:17:49,527 The case at bar does not involve 512 00:17:49,653 --> 00:17:51,529 Caroline Madison's disappearance. 513 00:17:51,613 --> 00:17:53,990 Caroline Madison's family 514 00:17:54,115 --> 00:17:55,825 kept her disappearance at the forefront 515 00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:57,994 of the city's consciousness with its very public 516 00:17:58,078 --> 00:17:59,871 wrongful death lawsuit against our client. 517 00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:00,955 And may I remind 518 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,249 Your Honor that that case was dismissed 519 00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:06,336 only after six years of litigation and publicity. 520 00:18:06,461 --> 00:18:09,297 And where would you have me transfer the case, Mr. Archer? 521 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:12,425 Suffolk County would be satisfactory to the defense. 522 00:18:12,509 --> 00:18:13,760 The Hamptons? 523 00:18:13,843 --> 00:18:15,553 Why not hold the trial in the lounge 524 00:18:15,637 --> 00:18:17,555 of Eli Madison's country club? 525 00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:20,392 Your Honor, any prior knowledge of Mr. Madison's 526 00:18:20,475 --> 00:18:24,104 first run-in with the law can be dealt with on voir dire. 527 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:27,232 I agree, Mr. McCoy. Defense motion is denied. 528 00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:29,943 In that case, Your Honor, I move to preclude any mention 529 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,778 of Ms. Madison's disappearance. 530 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:32,946 The People oppose the request. 531 00:18:33,071 --> 00:18:34,781 On what grounds? You just said, 532 00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:36,366 "The case at bar doesn't involve 533 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,909 Caroline Madison's disappearance." 534 00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:39,327 Those are your words, Mr. McCoy. 535 00:18:39,411 --> 00:18:42,080 He's changing the context, Your Honor. No, Mr. McCoy. 536 00:18:42,205 --> 00:18:44,582 If it involves Mrs. Madison's disappearance, 537 00:18:44,708 --> 00:18:47,168 it will not be admissible in my courtroom. 538 00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:52,841 I analyzed blood 539 00:18:52,924 --> 00:18:54,634 found in the decedent's bathroom 540 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:57,595 and on the knife found in the defendant's apartment, 541 00:18:57,721 --> 00:18:59,973 as well as the body parts found by the police. 542 00:19:00,056 --> 00:19:01,599 How many matches did you find? 543 00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:03,351 Nine. Based on your analysis, 544 00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:05,186 have you reached a conclusion? 545 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,981 The DNA samples are from the same individual. 546 00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:10,525 The blood on the knife in Mr. Madison's apartment, 547 00:19:10,608 --> 00:19:13,987 the blood in Mr. Barry's bathtub 548 00:19:14,112 --> 00:19:17,324 and the body parts-- all the same DNA? 549 00:19:17,449 --> 00:19:18,742 Yes. 550 00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:22,162 Specifically, Doctor, 551 00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:24,539 what analytic method did your lab use? 552 00:19:24,622 --> 00:19:27,500 PCR. Polymerase Chain Reaction. 553 00:19:27,584 --> 00:19:29,544 That's it? 554 00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:31,629 Yes. You didn't use SNIPS? 555 00:19:31,713 --> 00:19:33,506 Single Nucleotide Polymorphism Analysis. 556 00:19:33,631 --> 00:19:34,549 No. 557 00:19:34,632 --> 00:19:36,217 Or Short Tandem Repeat Technology? 558 00:19:36,343 --> 00:19:37,385 No. 559 00:19:37,469 --> 00:19:39,554 Can I ask why? PCR analysis 560 00:19:39,637 --> 00:19:40,972 is accurate and sufficient. 561 00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:42,640 I didn't think it was necessary 562 00:19:42,724 --> 00:19:45,060 to verify further with additional modalities. 563 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:46,478 Mm. Well, without having conducted 564 00:19:46,561 --> 00:19:49,564 those additional analyses, can you testify that the results 565 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:51,566 would be the same? No, I can't, but... 566 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:54,152 Nothing further. 567 00:19:57,405 --> 00:20:02,494 Detective Green, I show you People's Exhibit A. 568 00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:03,870 Do you recognize it? 569 00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:06,873 That's the knife that we found in Jennifer Shelby's-- uh... 570 00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:08,541 Eli Madison's apartment. 571 00:20:08,666 --> 00:20:10,043 What did you do with it? 572 00:20:10,126 --> 00:20:11,920 Well, we observed some residue 573 00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:13,630 on the knife that looked like dried blood, 574 00:20:13,713 --> 00:20:15,256 so we followed standard procedure 575 00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:18,093 to preserve the chain of custody and protect the evidence 576 00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:20,345 from contamination, and then we sent it 577 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:21,888 to the lab to be analyzed. 578 00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:23,390 No further questions, 579 00:20:23,515 --> 00:20:24,474 Your Honor. 580 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:29,020 Detective Green... did you do a thorough inventory 581 00:20:29,104 --> 00:20:31,356 of the contents of the defendant's apartment? 582 00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:33,983 Yes, we did. And were there other knives in 583 00:20:34,109 --> 00:20:35,193 the defendant's kitchen? Yes. 584 00:20:35,318 --> 00:20:37,028 Other sharp knives, for cooking or whatever? 585 00:20:37,112 --> 00:20:38,613 There was a set of knives of various sizes, 586 00:20:38,697 --> 00:20:40,281 and a cutting board. So was this knife, 587 00:20:40,365 --> 00:20:42,617 the one that you just entered into evidence, 588 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:43,660 part of that set? No. 589 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,161 No. How was it different? 590 00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:47,747 Well, that knife is quite a bit larger, 591 00:20:47,831 --> 00:20:48,915 and the handle is different. 592 00:20:48,999 --> 00:20:50,250 So this knife doesn't resemble 593 00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:52,502 any of the other knives in the kitchen. 594 00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:56,214 No. Not really. 595 00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:58,049 Hm. 596 00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:01,761 I compared the incisions 597 00:21:01,886 --> 00:21:04,139 and markings on the flesh and bone of the decedent 598 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:06,391 with the structural characteristics of the knife. 599 00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:09,811 Could this particular knife have been used to cut up the body? 600 00:21:09,894 --> 00:21:11,604 Yes. The bone and flesh incisions 601 00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:15,150 are consistent with the cutting characteristics of this knife. 602 00:21:17,569 --> 00:21:21,156 "Consistent with." 603 00:21:21,281 --> 00:21:23,616 That's not the same as "the same," is it? 604 00:21:23,742 --> 00:21:25,660 No. 605 00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:27,454 This knife... 606 00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:29,956 might have been used to dismember the body. 607 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,791 Yes. But you can't be sure. 608 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:34,169 It lacks sufficient distinguishing characteristics 609 00:21:34,252 --> 00:21:35,587 to make a definitive identification. 610 00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:37,172 Is there any way 611 00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:39,007 to determine whether this particular knife 612 00:21:39,090 --> 00:21:40,258 was used to kill Mr. Barry? 613 00:21:40,342 --> 00:21:43,136 Not in this case-- the knife lacks... 614 00:21:43,261 --> 00:21:45,513 sufficient... Sufficient distinguishing characteristics. 615 00:21:45,597 --> 00:21:47,682 Thank you. 616 00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:50,518 Oh, by the way, Doctor... 617 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,188 what actually did kill Mr. Barry? 618 00:21:53,271 --> 00:21:55,398 Was he, in fact, stabbed to death? 619 00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:56,691 Or shot? Or bludgeoned? 620 00:21:56,775 --> 00:21:58,693 Or did he die of natural causes? 621 00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:00,111 A heart attack? A stroke? 622 00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:03,156 The cause is unknown at this time. 623 00:22:03,239 --> 00:22:04,282 Why is that? 624 00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,326 We don't have enough of Mr. Barry's remains 625 00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:10,914 to determine with medical certainty the cause of death. 626 00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:16,753 When you kept Mr. Barry company 627 00:22:16,878 --> 00:22:19,005 on these occasions, how were you dressed? 628 00:22:19,089 --> 00:22:21,508 As a woman. As Jennifer. 629 00:22:21,633 --> 00:22:23,301 He knew me as Jennifer. 630 00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,804 So, what happened the night he died? 631 00:22:25,887 --> 00:22:29,140 I was in Roger's apartment. 632 00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,309 We were watching a basketball game. 633 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:34,312 I got caught up in it and yelled something, 634 00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:35,730 in my real voice. 635 00:22:35,814 --> 00:22:37,732 And Mr. Barry? He freaked. 636 00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:40,443 He realized I wasn't really deaf... 637 00:22:40,568 --> 00:22:42,195 that I wasn't a woman. 638 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,906 And why would that matter so much to him? 639 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:48,618 Eli? 640 00:22:53,248 --> 00:22:55,709 We'd been... intimate. 641 00:22:55,792 --> 00:22:59,170 So you'd had sex with Roger Barry? Yes. 642 00:22:59,295 --> 00:23:01,172 And he still didn't know? 643 00:23:01,256 --> 00:23:03,758 I was good at putting him off in certain ways. 644 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:05,677 At deceiving him. 645 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,262 Yes. 646 00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:08,596 Mm. 647 00:23:08,722 --> 00:23:10,265 So he was upset, angry...? 648 00:23:10,348 --> 00:23:13,018 Furious. He hit me over and over with his cane. 649 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:14,561 He had a terrible temper. 650 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:18,857 I was fending him off, and he... 651 00:23:18,982 --> 00:23:22,235 he made this awful gasping noise. 652 00:23:22,318 --> 00:23:24,612 He dropped his cane, clutched his chest 653 00:23:24,738 --> 00:23:26,114 and fell down. 654 00:23:26,197 --> 00:23:27,615 Then he turned blue. 655 00:23:27,699 --> 00:23:29,451 I guess he had a heart attack. 656 00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:30,827 I did CPR on him, 657 00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:33,705 it seemed like hours... 658 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:35,999 but... 659 00:23:37,167 --> 00:23:39,836 So, Mr. Barry is lying there, 660 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:42,881 dead, despite your best efforts to revive him. 661 00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:44,632 So, what'd you do next, Eli? 662 00:23:44,716 --> 00:23:46,217 I panicked. Why? 663 00:23:46,301 --> 00:23:48,303 I knew what the police would think. 664 00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:50,346 I couldn't have our relationship 665 00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:53,099 or my life as Jennifer Shelby exposed, 666 00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:55,060 and I certainly couldn't go to prison. 667 00:23:55,143 --> 00:23:57,479 I'd never survive. 668 00:23:57,604 --> 00:24:00,899 So I decided to get rid of Roger's body. 669 00:24:00,982 --> 00:24:02,400 So that's when you went back 670 00:24:02,484 --> 00:24:04,402 to your apartment to get that knife? 671 00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:06,237 That's not my knife. 672 00:24:06,321 --> 00:24:07,572 It isn't? 673 00:24:07,697 --> 00:24:09,157 I've never seen it before. 674 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,909 Besides, I didn't need one. 675 00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:12,661 Roger kept a metal cutter in his closet. 676 00:24:12,786 --> 00:24:15,663 So the knife that the police found in your apartment, 677 00:24:15,747 --> 00:24:18,124 the knife that doesn't match any of the knives 678 00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:19,834 in your kitchen, the knife that you say 679 00:24:19,918 --> 00:24:21,586 that you've never seen before, 680 00:24:21,670 --> 00:24:24,297 how did that knife come to be in your apartment? I have no idea. 681 00:24:24,422 --> 00:24:26,674 Well, how did Mr. Barry's blood get on that knife? 682 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,717 I have no idea. 683 00:24:27,801 --> 00:24:28,843 I do. 684 00:24:28,927 --> 00:24:30,595 Objection! Chambers, Your Honor! 685 00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:35,433 Accusing the prosecution of planting evidence... 686 00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:36,351 I didn't mean 687 00:24:36,434 --> 00:24:38,186 to imply you personally, Mr. McCoy, 688 00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:40,480 but there is a long list of people working for the state 689 00:24:40,563 --> 00:24:42,107 who have wanted Mr. Madison in prison 690 00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:43,233 for the past ten years. 691 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:44,818 There is no basis in fact 692 00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:45,860 for these allegations. 693 00:24:45,986 --> 00:24:46,820 I will strike that remark. 694 00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:48,989 You can't unring the bell, Your Honor. 695 00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:51,950 No, but I can issue an instruction for the jury 696 00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,035 to ignore it, Mr. McCoy. 697 00:24:56,538 --> 00:24:59,416 Mr. Barry kept a metal cutter in his closet. 698 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:02,627 He worked with his hands. He made his own furniture. 699 00:25:02,711 --> 00:25:03,712 Quite a coincidence 700 00:25:03,753 --> 00:25:06,339 that the knife the police found in your apartment 701 00:25:06,464 --> 00:25:09,134 has the same characteristics as the metal cutter 702 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:10,385 they didn't find. 703 00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:12,178 Do you know why they didn't find it? 704 00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:15,015 I tossed it into one of the Dumpsters. 705 00:25:15,098 --> 00:25:16,891 I guess they didn't look hard enough. 706 00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:20,770 The police also failed to find Mr. Barry's heart, 707 00:25:20,854 --> 00:25:23,023 which would have proved or disproved 708 00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:25,567 your story about a heart attack. 709 00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,901 I wish they had. 710 00:25:26,985 --> 00:25:29,904 An autopsy would have exonerated me. 711 00:25:29,988 --> 00:25:30,864 You should have thought of that 712 00:25:30,989 --> 00:25:32,574 before you cut up your boyfriend's body. 713 00:25:32,657 --> 00:25:33,825 Objection. 714 00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:36,703 Withdrawn. You testified 715 00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:41,499 that you dismembered Mr. Barry's body because, quote, 716 00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:45,295 you "knew what the police would think." 717 00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:47,881 What were you afraid the police would think? 718 00:25:48,006 --> 00:25:50,091 Approach, Your Honor? 719 00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:55,096 You've already ruled on this, Your Honor. 720 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,474 My client is being tried for the murder of Roger Barry. 721 00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,726 Any mention of his missing wife 722 00:25:59,809 --> 00:26:01,644 is prejudicial and irrelevant. 723 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:02,771 I didn't ask Mr. Madison 724 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:05,273 about his wife's disappearance. 725 00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:06,566 I asked him about his state of mind. 726 00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:08,902 Your client opened the door, Mr. Archer. 727 00:26:09,027 --> 00:26:10,612 I'm going to allow it. 728 00:26:17,661 --> 00:26:20,246 What were you afraid the police would think, Mr. Madison? 729 00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:22,082 That I killed him, too, 730 00:26:22,207 --> 00:26:24,417 just like you think I killed my wife. 731 00:26:24,501 --> 00:26:25,418 You still think I killed my wife, 732 00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:26,378 even though you know you can't prove it. 733 00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:27,921 Your Honor... 734 00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:29,297 Because I didn't do it! 735 00:26:29,381 --> 00:26:30,882 They all think I killed my wife! 736 00:26:30,965 --> 00:26:32,300 But they couldn't prove anything then, 737 00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:33,927 so that's why they're setting me up now! 738 00:26:34,052 --> 00:26:34,928 Move to strike: 739 00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:36,388 Unresponsive. 740 00:26:36,471 --> 00:26:37,430 Stricken. 741 00:26:37,472 --> 00:26:40,392 Jury will disregard the witness's last remark. 742 00:26:49,401 --> 00:26:50,986 Have you reached a verdict? 743 00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:51,987 We have. 744 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:53,905 On the sole count of the indictment, 745 00:26:53,989 --> 00:26:55,907 Murder in The Second Degree, 746 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:57,242 how do you find? 747 00:26:57,325 --> 00:26:58,284 We find the defendant, 748 00:26:58,368 --> 00:27:00,537 Eli Madison, not guilty. 749 00:27:17,846 --> 00:27:19,806 I told you Archer could blow smoke. 750 00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:21,349 It's like that old saying, 751 00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:23,810 "Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?" 752 00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:25,103 And they believed Archer. 753 00:27:25,145 --> 00:27:27,772 Creating reasonable doubt where none exists costs money. 754 00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:28,648 And what? 755 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:30,483 People like Eli Madison are entitled 756 00:27:30,567 --> 00:27:32,652 to as much justice as they can afford? 757 00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:33,820 At the end of the day, 758 00:27:33,862 --> 00:27:37,449 all we really proved was that Eli Madison cut up a body. 759 00:27:37,574 --> 00:27:39,826 I'm not done with Eli Madison yet. 760 00:27:39,951 --> 00:27:41,244 What do you have in mind? 761 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:43,705 Charging him with obstruction and tampering? 762 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:44,789 No. With killing his wife. 763 00:27:44,873 --> 00:27:47,876 Remember what I said about prosecuting homicides 764 00:27:48,001 --> 00:27:49,336 without bodies. 765 00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:51,004 If all Eli Madison wanted 766 00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:53,173 to do was avoid being recognized, 767 00:27:53,256 --> 00:27:54,632 he could have grown a beard 768 00:27:54,716 --> 00:27:55,592 or shaved his head. 769 00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,887 But instead he put on a wig and a dress. 770 00:27:59,012 --> 00:28:00,472 It must mean something. 771 00:28:00,555 --> 00:28:02,307 Pretzel? 772 00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:05,685 What if he is a transvestite? 773 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:08,396 Then some of what he said on the stand could be true. 774 00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:11,566 Maybe he really couldn't bear being found out. 775 00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:12,776 And if that's why he killed Roger Barry... 776 00:28:12,901 --> 00:28:16,321 Maybe he killed his wife for the same reason. 777 00:28:16,404 --> 00:28:18,448 Say she found out his secret. 778 00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:19,824 For a man like Eli Madison, 779 00:28:19,908 --> 00:28:22,911 living in that cloistered world of old money. 780 00:28:22,994 --> 00:28:25,747 Better a murderer than a cross-dresser. 781 00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:26,748 Exactly. 782 00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:28,500 Delve as deep as you can into Eli Madison. 783 00:28:28,583 --> 00:28:30,627 Let's find out how good he was 784 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:31,711 at keeping his secret. 785 00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:36,257 Here he is. 786 00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:37,592 Eli Peter Madison. 787 00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:39,886 He married Caroline Gail Thorton 788 00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:41,763 December fifth, 1992. 789 00:28:41,846 --> 00:28:45,141 Divorced her July 14, 1996. 790 00:28:45,225 --> 00:28:46,184 Uncontested. 791 00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:47,268 It's hard to contest anything 792 00:28:47,352 --> 00:28:48,686 when you've been "misplaced." 793 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:49,562 Is that it? 794 00:28:49,604 --> 00:28:52,482 Did you know he was married before? 795 00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,609 No. 796 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:56,653 1982. 797 00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:58,571 That would have made him 18 or so. 798 00:28:58,697 --> 00:29:01,741 He married a Diane Wharsey, also 18. 799 00:29:01,825 --> 00:29:02,742 Didn't last long. 800 00:29:02,826 --> 00:29:03,993 Six months. 801 00:29:04,077 --> 00:29:05,161 Happen to have an address? 802 00:29:05,245 --> 00:29:06,788 22 years old. 803 00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:09,749 You got to start somewhere. 804 00:29:11,876 --> 00:29:14,212 I bought it with the settlement, 805 00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:18,299 and I've been here ever since. 806 00:29:18,383 --> 00:29:20,385 We were children. 807 00:29:20,468 --> 00:29:24,055 Of course it didn't last. 808 00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:26,391 Can I ask you an embarrassing question? 809 00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:28,935 Can I stop you? 810 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:33,314 How was your sex life? 811 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,567 We thought it was great. 812 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,737 I mean, what do you even know at that age? 813 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:45,326 Did Eli have any tendencies that weren't... mainstream? 814 00:29:45,452 --> 00:29:48,413 Ms. Southerlyn, maybe you ought to just stop 815 00:29:48,496 --> 00:29:51,499 beating around the bush and say what you mean. 816 00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:53,251 Are you asking was he gay? 817 00:29:53,335 --> 00:29:55,003 We could start there. 818 00:29:55,128 --> 00:29:56,713 I don't think he really knew 819 00:29:56,838 --> 00:29:57,839 one way or the other. 820 00:29:57,922 --> 00:30:00,175 Now let me ask you a question. 821 00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:01,301 Why are you here? 822 00:30:01,384 --> 00:30:02,677 Eli was acquitted. 823 00:30:02,802 --> 00:30:04,346 We're looking into the disappearance 824 00:30:04,429 --> 00:30:05,972 of his second wife. 825 00:30:06,097 --> 00:30:06,973 Ah. Caroline. 826 00:30:07,057 --> 00:30:08,016 The case is still open. 827 00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:09,309 And I was just wondering 828 00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:10,935 if he ever talked to you about it? 829 00:30:11,019 --> 00:30:12,979 He called me from Europe. 830 00:30:13,063 --> 00:30:14,356 He was distraught. 831 00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:15,815 He felt persecuted. 832 00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:17,067 He had to come back 833 00:30:17,192 --> 00:30:19,944 for the trial, and Dwayne had just died. 834 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:21,029 Dwayne? 835 00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:22,781 Evans. His very close friend. 836 00:30:22,906 --> 00:30:26,368 Dwayne had a terrible accident rock climbing 837 00:30:26,493 --> 00:30:28,370 or something out west. 838 00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:30,038 They had just taken his deposition 839 00:30:30,121 --> 00:30:31,456 and he was supposed to come back 840 00:30:31,539 --> 00:30:33,541 to New York to testify. 841 00:30:33,625 --> 00:30:35,460 Was this Eli's alibi witness? 842 00:30:35,543 --> 00:30:36,920 Mmm. Eli was beside himself. 843 00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:40,715 He lost the one person who could really exonerate him. 844 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:41,800 Did you know Dwayne? 845 00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:42,842 A little. 846 00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:45,720 He made Eli look like the poster boy for normal. 847 00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:46,763 How so? 848 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:49,015 Neurotic, hysterical, 849 00:30:49,099 --> 00:30:52,018 you name it. 850 00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:53,728 And you know, looking back, 851 00:30:53,812 --> 00:30:56,439 he and Eli might have been lovers. 852 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,360 According to Immigration, 853 00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:01,903 Eli Madison flew back from Europe 854 00:31:01,987 --> 00:31:03,405 two weeks before he testified 855 00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:04,447 in the civil suit. 856 00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:05,740 He then flew back to Europe 857 00:31:05,824 --> 00:31:07,659 the day after the case was dismissed. 858 00:31:07,742 --> 00:31:09,369 He beat the rap on that one, too. 859 00:31:09,452 --> 00:31:10,745 His friend Dwayne Evans died 860 00:31:10,829 --> 00:31:13,331 a week after Eli Madison came back to the States. 861 00:31:13,415 --> 00:31:14,541 That was an accident. 862 00:31:14,666 --> 00:31:17,252 Evans was hiking in the back country near Taos. 863 00:31:17,377 --> 00:31:20,422 Some day-trippers found his body at the base of the cliff. 864 00:31:20,505 --> 00:31:22,632 You think Madison was involved somehow? 865 00:31:22,757 --> 00:31:24,384 When he called Diane Wharsey 866 00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:25,385 to talk about it, 867 00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:27,137 he told her he was in Europe. 868 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,930 But he couldn't have been, Jack. 869 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,348 He was already here. 870 00:31:30,432 --> 00:31:32,350 She misremembers the conversation. 871 00:31:32,475 --> 00:31:34,102 Why would he kill his alibi witness? 872 00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:36,062 Diane said that Dwayne was unstable. 873 00:31:36,146 --> 00:31:37,105 Maybe Eli was worried 874 00:31:37,147 --> 00:31:40,066 about how he would hold up at the civil trial. 875 00:31:40,150 --> 00:31:42,402 If Dwayne flip-flopped in court, 876 00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:45,113 Eli might lose the wrongful death suit. 877 00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:47,866 A criminal trial wouldn't be far behind. 878 00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:50,035 If you could put Eli Madison in Taos 879 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,120 at the time of Dwayne Evans's death, 880 00:31:52,203 --> 00:31:53,955 we might be able to persuade 881 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,707 the New Mexico medical examiner 882 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:57,751 to have Evans's body exhumed. 883 00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:02,464 11 airlines flew into Albuquerque 884 00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,049 during that time period. 885 00:32:04,174 --> 00:32:07,635 Checking first class for those weeks. 886 00:32:07,719 --> 00:32:09,596 No Eli Madison on any of them. 887 00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:11,056 I can check coach, too. 888 00:32:11,139 --> 00:32:12,640 That's going to take some time. 889 00:32:12,724 --> 00:32:14,601 Yeah, well, you might as well. 890 00:32:15,185 --> 00:32:17,270 Maybe he drove to Taos 891 00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:19,105 from Phoenix or L.A. or Las Vegas. 892 00:32:19,189 --> 00:32:20,190 It's a needle in a haystack. 893 00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:21,650 What about the family jet? 894 00:32:21,775 --> 00:32:23,610 Isn't there a small airport in Santa Fe? 895 00:32:23,735 --> 00:32:24,944 I checked that already. 896 00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:27,072 The Madison Gulfstream was in St. Bart's that month. 897 00:32:27,197 --> 00:32:28,406 Well, see what you can come up with. 898 00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:29,532 I'll come back later. 899 00:32:29,657 --> 00:32:31,117 And if you can't find anything into Albuquerque, 900 00:32:31,242 --> 00:32:32,535 expand your search. 901 00:32:35,246 --> 00:32:36,539 Wait a minute. 902 00:32:38,166 --> 00:32:40,543 Try Jennifer Shelby. 903 00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:50,512 A Jennifer Shelby flew into Albuquerque, New Mexico, 904 00:32:50,595 --> 00:32:53,056 three days before Dwayne Evans had his accident. 905 00:32:53,181 --> 00:32:54,182 On the same day, 906 00:32:54,224 --> 00:32:56,935 Dwayne Evans rented a car at the Albuquerque airport 907 00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,061 and drove to Taos. 908 00:32:58,186 --> 00:33:00,063 He checked into the Casa Benitez 909 00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:01,523 in the company of a woman 910 00:33:01,606 --> 00:33:04,109 who matches the description of Jennifer Shelby. 911 00:33:04,192 --> 00:33:05,318 Eli Madison. 912 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,156 When the cops went to talk to her about Dwayne's accident, 913 00:33:10,281 --> 00:33:11,199 she'd split. 914 00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,159 Vanished into thin air. 915 00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:14,703 With Dwayne Evans dead, 916 00:33:14,786 --> 00:33:17,580 all that was available for either the civil suit 917 00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:21,042 or a possible criminal case was his deposition testimony. 918 00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,920 Which was Eli's alibi. 919 00:33:26,214 --> 00:33:29,634 Send pictures of Eli Madison in and out of drag 920 00:33:29,718 --> 00:33:32,679 to the Taos PD. 921 00:33:32,762 --> 00:33:34,848 Ask them to do a photo array for the people at the Inn. 922 00:33:34,973 --> 00:33:37,809 And file charges-- Murder Two-- for killing Caroline Madison. 923 00:33:37,892 --> 00:33:39,936 We still don't have the body. 924 00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:41,229 Last I looked, 925 00:33:41,271 --> 00:33:44,691 killing a witness is evidence of the underlying crime. 926 00:33:44,816 --> 00:33:46,192 With all the other evidence, 927 00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:47,527 it finally ought to be enough 928 00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:48,653 to get an indictment. 929 00:33:48,737 --> 00:33:50,113 I'm going to contact the authorities 930 00:33:50,196 --> 00:33:52,032 in New Mexico. Have them exhume Dwayne Evans. 931 00:33:52,115 --> 00:33:55,618 They may want to file charges of their own. 932 00:33:57,829 --> 00:34:00,081 At our request, 933 00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:01,166 the New Mexico authorities 934 00:34:01,249 --> 00:34:04,252 exhumed and autopsied the remains of Dwayne Evans. 935 00:34:04,377 --> 00:34:05,712 I compared DNA from skin 936 00:34:05,795 --> 00:34:07,589 taken from under Mr. Evans's fingernails 937 00:34:07,672 --> 00:34:09,090 to court ordered DNA 938 00:34:09,174 --> 00:34:10,258 taken from the defendant. 939 00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:11,801 And what did you find? 940 00:34:11,885 --> 00:34:13,553 The DNA matched at ten regions. 941 00:34:13,678 --> 00:34:15,972 And from that you're able to conclude...? 942 00:34:16,056 --> 00:34:19,351 The skin under Dawyne Evans's fingernails was Eli Madison's. 943 00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:22,729 Dr. Faruzzi, what method did you use 944 00:34:22,812 --> 00:34:25,648 to compare DNA from the several samples? 945 00:34:25,732 --> 00:34:26,941 PCR analysis. 946 00:34:27,067 --> 00:34:28,026 You didn't use 947 00:34:28,068 --> 00:34:32,280 Restriction Fragment Length Polymorphism analysis? 948 00:34:32,405 --> 00:34:34,991 RFLP? I didn't need to. 949 00:34:35,075 --> 00:34:37,911 Eight years ago, if Dwayne Evans's death 950 00:34:38,036 --> 00:34:41,289 had not been ruled an accident, what method 951 00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:42,540 would the New Mexico 952 00:34:42,624 --> 00:34:44,626 forensics scientists have used? 953 00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:47,212 Eight years ago RFLP analysis was state of the art. 954 00:34:47,337 --> 00:34:48,880 And now? 955 00:34:48,963 --> 00:34:50,298 It's hardly used at all. 956 00:34:50,423 --> 00:34:51,883 There are much more efficient 957 00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:53,885 and accurate methods of testing. 958 00:34:53,968 --> 00:34:55,011 Such as? 959 00:34:55,095 --> 00:34:57,347 PCR analysis. 960 00:34:57,430 --> 00:35:00,934 No further questions, Your Honor. 961 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:05,772 We were best friends. 962 00:35:05,855 --> 00:35:08,191 I needed to talk to someone. 963 00:35:08,316 --> 00:35:10,276 But why go in disguise? 964 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,112 Why visit Dwayne Evans 965 00:35:12,237 --> 00:35:13,655 as Jennifer Shelby? 966 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:15,323 To protect Dwayne's privacy. 967 00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:16,700 The police, the press, 968 00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:17,826 wouldn't leave me alone. 969 00:35:17,909 --> 00:35:20,328 Everywhere I went, following me, accusing me. 970 00:35:20,412 --> 00:35:22,580 Taking pictures. Asking stupid questions. 971 00:35:22,664 --> 00:35:23,832 Can you explain how your skin 972 00:35:23,915 --> 00:35:25,542 got under Dwayne's fingernails? 973 00:35:25,625 --> 00:35:27,585 Yes. 974 00:35:27,669 --> 00:35:29,629 We were lovers. 975 00:35:29,754 --> 00:35:31,881 Did you go hiking with Dwayne that day? 976 00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:33,007 No. 977 00:35:33,091 --> 00:35:34,926 All right, so tell us what happened. 978 00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:37,012 We made love early that morning, 979 00:35:37,095 --> 00:35:39,347 and then Dwayne left to go hiking 980 00:35:39,431 --> 00:35:40,849 in the Rio Grande gorge. 981 00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:43,309 He was supposed to come back by noon. 982 00:35:43,435 --> 00:35:45,311 He didn't come back. 983 00:35:45,395 --> 00:35:48,273 By 4:00, I was worried sick. 984 00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:50,317 By 6:00 I was panic stricken, 985 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,194 and by 9:00 I knew something terrible had happened to him. 986 00:35:53,278 --> 00:35:54,320 Why didn't you call the police? 987 00:35:54,404 --> 00:35:55,363 I panicked. 988 00:35:55,447 --> 00:35:56,781 Because of my wife's disappearance, 989 00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:57,699 I knew they would have 990 00:35:57,782 --> 00:35:59,367 thought I had something to do with it. 991 00:35:59,492 --> 00:36:01,077 Dwayne had taken the rental car. 992 00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,371 I was stranded, I didn't know what to do. 993 00:36:03,455 --> 00:36:05,790 The next morning I caught an early bus 994 00:36:05,915 --> 00:36:08,084 to Colorado Springs and flew home. 995 00:36:08,209 --> 00:36:12,005 So you didn't have anything to do with Dwayne's accident? 996 00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:13,590 Of course not. 997 00:36:13,715 --> 00:36:16,384 I loved him. 998 00:36:16,468 --> 00:36:17,969 More than anyone. 999 00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:20,972 I'm sorry I wasn't there that day. 1000 00:36:21,056 --> 00:36:24,184 Maybe I could have helped him. 1001 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,914 You say you could have helped him. 1002 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:47,749 You don't do well under pressure, 1003 00:36:47,832 --> 00:36:48,917 do you, Mr. Madison? 1004 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,752 I don't know what you mean. 1005 00:36:50,835 --> 00:36:51,836 Your friend Dwayne 1006 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,505 doesn't come back from a hike, 1007 00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:54,756 you don't call the police, 1008 00:36:54,839 --> 00:36:56,341 park rangers, EMS... 1009 00:36:56,466 --> 00:36:57,801 I explained why 1010 00:36:57,926 --> 00:36:58,885 I didn't do any of that. 1011 00:36:59,010 --> 00:36:59,886 I was under a cloud. 1012 00:37:00,011 --> 00:37:01,429 Isn't it true that when your wife 1013 00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:03,098 Caroline disappeared, 1014 00:37:03,181 --> 00:37:05,892 it took you three days to report her missing? 1015 00:37:05,975 --> 00:37:07,352 I was away, with Dwayne. 1016 00:37:07,477 --> 00:37:08,937 I didn't even know she was gone. 1017 00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:12,857 Of course, Dwayne's not here 1018 00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:15,235 to corroborate your story. 1019 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,236 Objection. 1020 00:37:16,361 --> 00:37:17,237 Sustained. 1021 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,279 Withdrawn. 1022 00:37:18,405 --> 00:37:20,240 You didn't call the police 1023 00:37:20,323 --> 00:37:21,282 for your friend Dwayne. 1024 00:37:21,408 --> 00:37:23,493 It took you three days to call the police 1025 00:37:23,576 --> 00:37:25,954 about your wife's disappearance. 1026 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,790 Mr. Madison, did you call the police 1027 00:37:28,873 --> 00:37:30,875 when your friend Roger Barry died? 1028 00:37:31,001 --> 00:37:32,252 Approach, Your Honor. 1029 00:37:37,132 --> 00:37:38,216 Your Honor, Mr. McCoy is attempting 1030 00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:40,844 to introduce into evidence facts relating to charges 1031 00:37:40,927 --> 00:37:42,429 that my client was recently acquitted of. 1032 00:37:42,554 --> 00:37:44,431 I read the papers, Mr. Archer. 1033 00:37:44,556 --> 00:37:46,141 Your Honor, I'm trying 1034 00:37:46,224 --> 00:37:47,851 to establish a pattern of behavior 1035 00:37:47,934 --> 00:37:48,935 on Mr. Madison's part. 1036 00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:50,854 Some of his behavior may be considered 1037 00:37:50,937 --> 00:37:52,397 bizarre or inappropriate, 1038 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,398 but not admissible. 1039 00:37:53,481 --> 00:37:54,482 Inappropriate? 1040 00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:56,818 He admitted cutting Mr. Barry's body 1041 00:37:56,943 --> 00:37:58,486 into pieces when he died. 1042 00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:00,488 Some of the facts, out of context, 1043 00:38:00,613 --> 00:38:02,741 may be so gruesome, Your Honor, 1044 00:38:02,824 --> 00:38:03,450 as to be prejudicial. 1045 00:38:03,575 --> 00:38:04,576 I agree, Mr. Archer. 1046 00:38:04,617 --> 00:38:06,870 You may question the defendant about his failure 1047 00:38:06,995 --> 00:38:08,455 to notify the authorities, but not about 1048 00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:11,207 what he did subsequently. 1049 00:38:11,291 --> 00:38:13,293 So, Mr. Madison, 1050 00:38:13,376 --> 00:38:16,504 did you call the police when your friend 1051 00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:18,048 Roger Barry died? 1052 00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:19,007 No. 1053 00:38:19,090 --> 00:38:20,467 What were the circumstances 1054 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:21,801 of his death? 1055 00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:23,845 He had a heart attack. 1056 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,722 A heart attack? Are you a doctor? 1057 00:38:25,847 --> 00:38:27,766 No. 1058 00:38:27,849 --> 00:38:29,351 Did you call an ambulance? 1059 00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:30,393 No. Why not? 1060 00:38:30,518 --> 00:38:31,519 I thought I might be 1061 00:38:31,644 --> 00:38:32,937 blamed for what happened to him. 1062 00:38:33,021 --> 00:38:34,814 Just as you thought you might be blamed 1063 00:38:34,939 --> 00:38:37,442 for your friend Dwayne Evans's accident? 1064 00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:38,485 Yes. 1065 00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:39,527 Just as you thought you might 1066 00:38:39,652 --> 00:38:41,905 be blamed for the disappearance 1067 00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:43,073 of your wife Caroline? 1068 00:38:43,156 --> 00:38:43,865 Yes. 1069 00:38:43,948 --> 00:38:46,534 Blamed for a disappearance, 1070 00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:49,621 an accident and a heart attack? 1071 00:38:49,746 --> 00:38:51,956 The police, they were out to get me! 1072 00:38:52,082 --> 00:38:54,501 With three dead bodies, can you blame them? 1073 00:38:54,584 --> 00:38:55,502 Objection. 1074 00:38:55,585 --> 00:38:57,837 Withdrawn. 1075 00:38:57,921 --> 00:38:59,381 No further questions, Your Honor. 1076 00:38:59,464 --> 00:39:02,592 In that case, Your Honor, the defense rests. 1077 00:39:02,675 --> 00:39:04,052 The People wish to call 1078 00:39:04,177 --> 00:39:06,179 a rebuttal witness, Your Honor. 1079 00:39:09,391 --> 00:39:10,975 Mr. Evans was staying 1080 00:39:11,059 --> 00:39:14,979 at our bed and breakfast when he had his hiking accident. 1081 00:39:15,105 --> 00:39:17,816 I remember him very well. 1082 00:39:17,899 --> 00:39:18,983 That was eight years ago. 1083 00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:20,276 We never had a guest die 1084 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,362 before or since. 1085 00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:24,155 You don't forget 1086 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,366 something like that, believe me. 1087 00:39:26,449 --> 00:39:27,492 Was he alone? 1088 00:39:27,575 --> 00:39:28,576 He was with a woman. 1089 00:39:28,702 --> 00:39:29,619 They checked in together. 1090 00:39:29,661 --> 00:39:32,497 Do you see that individual in the courtroom? 1091 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:36,543 Yes... sort of. 1092 00:39:36,668 --> 00:39:38,211 The defendant. 1093 00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:43,007 You said Mr. Evans was with a woman. 1094 00:39:43,091 --> 00:39:44,259 The police showed me 1095 00:39:44,342 --> 00:39:46,219 some pictures, and I recognized her. 1096 00:39:46,344 --> 00:39:48,805 Then they showed me some pictures without her wig, 1097 00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:50,557 and it was him. 1098 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,100 The defendant. 1099 00:39:52,225 --> 00:39:52,976 Yes. 1100 00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:54,144 Did you see Mr. Evans 1101 00:39:54,227 --> 00:39:55,895 on the day he had his accident? 1102 00:39:55,979 --> 00:39:57,397 I was up early fixing breakfast 1103 00:39:57,522 --> 00:39:59,983 for the guests, I heard a car start up. 1104 00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:02,485 I looked out the window and saw Mr. Evans drive off. 1105 00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:03,611 Was he alone? 1106 00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:04,612 There was someone 1107 00:40:04,654 --> 00:40:07,532 in the car with him, on the passenger side. 1108 00:40:07,615 --> 00:40:08,575 Could you see who it was? 1109 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:10,618 It was too dark. 1110 00:40:10,702 --> 00:40:12,704 Did you see the defendant-- 1111 00:40:12,787 --> 00:40:14,581 Miss Shelby, as you knew her-- 1112 00:40:14,664 --> 00:40:16,583 at any time that day? 1113 00:40:16,666 --> 00:40:17,584 A little after noon, 1114 00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:19,586 I saw her get out of a car, 1115 00:40:19,711 --> 00:40:22,297 out at the road and walk down 1116 00:40:22,422 --> 00:40:24,549 the driveway of the hotel to her room. 1117 00:40:24,674 --> 00:40:25,550 How did she look? 1118 00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:26,634 She looked hot, 1119 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,681 tired... and very dusty. 1120 00:40:31,765 --> 00:40:32,974 Did you see her again? 1121 00:40:33,058 --> 00:40:34,059 No, the next morning, 1122 00:40:34,142 --> 00:40:35,560 I went to change the sheets 1123 00:40:35,685 --> 00:40:37,270 in their room and she was gone. 1124 00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:40,565 His stuff was still in the room, but not hers. 1125 00:40:40,648 --> 00:40:42,567 And then the police came. 1126 00:40:42,692 --> 00:40:45,653 They discovered Mr. Evans's body. 1127 00:40:56,664 --> 00:40:57,624 Have you reached a verdict 1128 00:40:57,749 --> 00:40:59,084 in the death of Caroline Madison? 1129 00:40:59,209 --> 00:41:00,293 We have. 1130 00:41:00,418 --> 00:41:02,629 On the sole count of the indictment, 1131 00:41:02,712 --> 00:41:04,130 Murder in the Second Degree, 1132 00:41:04,214 --> 00:41:06,508 how do you find the defendant, Eli Madison? 1133 00:41:06,591 --> 00:41:08,635 We find the defendant guilty. 1134 00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:24,693 A homicide conviction without a body. 1135 00:41:24,776 --> 00:41:27,404 It's the prosecutor's quadruple jump. 1136 00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:30,532 I'm not gloating. 1137 00:41:30,615 --> 00:41:32,701 Go ahead, you're entitled. 1138 00:41:32,784 --> 00:41:35,036 Guess justice isn't always for sale. 1139 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,330 Not today, anyway. 81421

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