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In the criminal justice system,

the people are represented

by two separate
yet equally important groups:

the police,
who investigate crime,

and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.

These are their stories.

Thought you were buying
the paper.

Just checking
the ponies.

Yeah?

How did Johnnie Walker

make out
in the fifth?

Cut me some slack,
Gretch.

You know how much stress
I'm under right now.

It is 8:00
in the damn morning.

I'll go to a meeting.

Right.

Oh, Jeffrey...

I really mean it this time.

I swear.

Oh, my God.

White female, late 30s.

People who live
in the garden apartment

found her first thing
this morning.

Guy's half
in the bag.

The early bird
catches the hangover.

Looks like she took
a header from one of
the hotel balconies.

Get the crime techs up there.
Check out all the rooms

with balconies
facing this backyard.

Will do.

The victim have any I.D. on her?

No pockets; she was
wearing a skirt.

All right, thanks.

Brody, what you
got for us, man?

Quick drive-by?

Blunt trauma smorgasbord.

Broken pelvis,
shattered lower extremities,

lots of lacerations,

ribcage like a bagful
of broken china.

Yeah, jumping off
a balcony'll do that.

If she'd jumped,
she would've hit

that lower roof.

What're you saying,
she was pushed?

I'll know more
when I get her on the table,

but judging
from the trajectory,

I'd say yeah,
she had help.

So can you put
a time on it?

Based on body temperature
and lividity,

I'd ballpark it somewhere
between 10:00 and 11:00
last night.

Detectives, this
is Mr. Wrightsman,

the manager of the hotel.

How can I help you?

What can you tell us
about the upper floors,

the ones with
the balconies?

Those are our executive suites.

So much for
the golden parachute.

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It's a nice view.

I prefer
a southern exposure.

Hey, Reed,
you got anything?

Usable prints, I doubt it.

But I did find this
lying out here on the terrace.

Contact lens.

Cutting edge RGP--
rigid gas permeable.

Could've popped out
during a struggle.

Don't get your hopes up.

Its extremely durable.

It could have been
lying out here

for days, weeks,
months...

I know it's hopeless, but
get it to the lab anyway.

What a novel idea.

I was gonna auction it off
on eBay.

You want another idea?

Detectives?

Lisa Winslow checked in
yesterday afternoon
around 4:00.

Reception gave her
one room key.

She certainly didn't
mess up the room.

Concierge said she just used it
to freshen up

before her speech at the Hoop-la
International

convention
last night.

Hoop-la?

Licensees
for various

pro basketball products
and spin-offs.

We have some of
the top players here.

Julius West,

Jimmy Neal...

What'd she talk about?

I gather she was
some kind

of motivational speaker.

Fires up the reps
to sell more sneakers,

that sort of thing.

$500-a-day dressing room?

I guess she could afford it.

Unless this purse
is some Canal Street knockoff.

Well, she's our high diver,
all right.

"Lisa Winslow."

No wonder she could afford
to use the place

just to powder
her nose.

She's a local.

"Blackstone Avenue.
The Bronx."

That's Riverdale.

Trust me, the purse is real.

I'm sorry.

Miss Winslow is not here.

I don't know where.

Who are you, ma'am?

I'm the nanny.

If we could just come in?

We need to talk to someone
about Ms. Winslow.

Do you know if there's
any family we can call?

Miss Lisa's sister is here.

Why don't you go
get her? Thanks.

You can wait in here.

I hate it
when they have kids.

Are you kidding?
It's the worst.

Can I help you?

Uh, this is Detective Green.

I'm Detective Briscoe.

Renee Bishop.

Is there a problem?

You're Lisa Winslow's
sister?

What is it?
What's wrong?

I'm afraid that we
have some bad news.

About Lisa?

She was found dead
early this morning

at the Park Terrace hotel.

Oh, my God!

She fell
from a balcony.

Sophie...

Sophie?

My niece... Lisa's daughter.

What am I going to tell her?

Is her father around?

Lisa's
a single parent.

What's his name?

Where can we get in touch
with him?

There's no one

to get in touch with.

Sophie was adopted.

Mommy?

Oh, Mommy's not home yet.

I'll be there
in a minute.

I can't find
my princess doll.

I'm going to be with you
in one minute,

all right? Lorena,
will you help her

look for her
doll, please?

Of course.

Come, mi hija.

When you're up to it,

we're going to need you
to come down and identify her.

Of course I will.

We also need to know
where your sister worked.

She owned her own business.

I think I have her card
in my purse.

I'll get it.

Lisa was one of the top

motivational speakers
in the country.

Her competitive background
in athletics

dovetailed nicely
with contemporary
corporate culture.

"1996 Olympic Swim Team.

First Place, Big Island
Iron Woman Triathlon."

She won three triathlons.

Do you know how hard that is,
what an accomplishment?

My idea of a triathlon

was junior high
punt, pass and kick.

So, she did well?

Oh, very well.

Business was booming.

She was in great demand.

What about
her personal life?

Lisa was much too busy
to have a personal life.

No boyfriends,
ex-boyfriends,
husbands?

She was gay.

So, any, uh, girlfriends,
ex-girlfriends...?

She never mentioned
anyone to me.

And what can you tell us

about this speaking engagement
she had last night?

She rocked the house.

They absolutely ate it up.

Finished the Q&A
a little after 9:00.

What'd she do after that?

Uh, there was
a reception...

When I left,
she was heading to the bar

with a couple of players.

Schmoozing was Lisa's forte.

Which players
was she schmoozing with?

I'm sorry,

I'm not into basketball.

Um, they were tall,
African-American.

She was in here last night.

Had a few Cosmos.

Actually, more than a few.

Who was she
drinking with?

Eh, couple of a black guys.
Looked like basketball players.

You know, I got this Hoop-la-la

convention here
all week.

Okay, so they had
a couple of drinks.

A few laughs, then paid
the tab and left.

Together?

Yeah, I guess.
Around 10:00.

How'd they pay
the tab?

One of the guys
charged it to his room.

Yeah, we tossed back
a couple with her.

Honey said she was writing
some sort of motivational
book for athletes.

Yeah, she wanted a
few quotes, you know,

like, what makes a winner
and stuff like that.

Uh, why?

We'll ask the questions.

After the bar,
what'd you do?

I went upstairs.
Hit the sack.

Alone?
Yeah.

And what about you?

Me, I caught a ride
downtown

to this new hip-hop spot:
T.R. Caesar's.

How long were you there?

Uh, maybe till, like,
3:00 in the morning.

Did you happen to get
a taxi receipt?

A taxi?
Call the limo company

and they'll
straighten you out.

All right, we will.

So, uh, am I off the hook?

I mean, I gotta split.

Don't tell me
I can't leave town.

I got a big game
at KC tonight.

You can go for now.

See you in Philly, bruh.

Later.

So, you were on you way
to your room.

Did you ride the elevator
with Ms. Winslow?

Yeah.

She got off at her floor,

I went on up to mine.

So, as far as we know,

you were the last person
to see her alive.

Yo, this is messed up.

I told you I went
to my room, man.

My wheels are here.

That's going to
have to wait.

So you're in the
elevator with her,

y'all got this
little connection going,

you end up in her room?

No. I told you.

I did not go
to the lady's room.

Only she's not interested
in what you have to offer

and you can't figure out why.

This is so wrong!

"No" is not a word

you're used to hearing,
is it, Shawn?

Look, I hooked up
with a shortie, okay?

A "shortie"?

A female.

She was hanging
in the lobby,

sweating me all night.

Finally gave her
my room number,

and told her to holler
at me around 10:00.

You got a name
for this "shortie"?

Alicia. I think.

So, Alicia. You didn't happen to
notice her last name, did you?

No, I didn't.

It was just
a one-hitter quitter.

She was sportin' team color.

You mean, like,
a varsity jacket?

Yeah.

What school?

Malboro.
Yeah, Marlboro.

My mom's, like,
in the Dark Ages.

If she finds out about this,
she'll, like, totally freak.

Well, why don't you
tell us what happened

and we'll try to make sure
that she don't totally freak.

Well, Shawn's Web site said
he'd be in New York.

I thought it would be cool
to meet him.

He's always been my favorite
player.

He's so cute.

So you went up to his room.

He's famous.

I've never been with
a famous person before.

So how long were you two...
kickin' it?

I hooked up with him
about 10:00,

went home about 2:00.

He even paid
for my cab fare home.

Gee, a real gentleman, huh?

All right, thanks.

I'm glad I don't have kids.

Ah, it's a mixed bag.

They're not all
like Alicia.

Some of them are worse.

Hey-- here-- these came in
while you were out.

Thanks, man.

The M.E. says the DNA
on the contact wasn't
Lisa Winslow.

Could it be it belonged
to the killer after all?

Also found circumferential
bruises on her upper arms,

contusion on her left hip.

That's consistent
with being grabbed

and pushed off
that balcony.

I have a problem.

Join the club.

Shawn Beatty's alibi
just got corroborated.

Lisa Winslow's parents
are on their way here
from New Hope.

They want to know
why they had to find out

about their daughter's death

from a news item
on the radio.

We told the sister.
She didn't tell the family?

According
to the parents,

Lisa Winslow doesn't have
a sister.

What?!

Then who was the woman
we met at Winslow's house?

We sent
a patrol car by

to have a word with her.

Whoever she is, she's gone
and she took the girl with her.

Damn.

So you have no idea
who this woman might be?

I'm afraid you're asking
the wrong people.

Lisa kept us out
of her private life.

Look, Mr. and Mrs. Winslow,

we need to find your
granddaughter now.

She's really not
our granddaughter.

We've never even met her.

Oh, she is precious.

Look, we got a lot of people
working on this.

There's a statewide Amber alert.

If you know anything
that can help, great.

If not, we're wasting
valuable time when

we should be out
looking for her.

Um...

About eight years ago,

Lisa told us
she'd met a woman in Florida,

and they were gonna adopt
a child down there.

Said they were gonna
get married.

You know, shack up together.

Said they were in love.

Broke her mother's heart.

After that,
we didn't talk very much.

Maybe a card at Christmas.

They were living in Florida?

Well, after they...

split up,
Lisa moved to New York--

that was two years ago.

Do you know
if she had

any friends in New York
we could talk to?

Anybody she might've
confided in?

Who was that, um...
Susan girl at NYU, Paul?

Um... Susan Roberts, was it?

I think they kept in touch
over the years.

Lisa wasn't the type
to pour out her heart

over cocktails.

Do you know if she
was seeing somebody?

As far as I know, a...

few dates here and there,
no one special.

What about past relationships?

She had an ex
in Florida--

Renee something.
I never met her.

I think we have.

They were living in Miami.

That's where
they adopted Sophie.

You have any idea
why they broke up?

Lisa said they'd
just grown apart--
been together

something like seven years.

Didn't have anything
in common anymore.

Except for Sophie.

Yeah, except Sophie.

What I understand,
Renee was devastated

by the split,
and so was Sophie.

I told Lisa I thought
she was wrong to separate them.

Renee was Sophie's
mother, too.

What did Lisa do?

Moved to New York, got a lawyer.

Do you know how
we can find this lawyer?

Yeah, I used her
for my divorce.

Nancy Shapiro.

Madison and 53rd.

Where is Sophie, by the way?

Who's taking
care of her?

We're looking for her.

Renee has her.

Renee Bishop.

Still in Miami
as far as I know.

Here's her contact info.

I'm gonna call the
squad, get them on it.

Why don't you tell me
about the custody battle.

There was none.

Custody battles occur
when both parties

have legal custodial rights,
which was not the case here.

Well, it's our understanding
that these two women

raised the child together.

Heather has two mommies...

Florida law prohibits

homosexuals from adopting.

Lisa filed as a single woman.

Which gave her
legal custody.

Sole legal custody.

So why hire you?

To protect
her interests.

Lisa didn't want Renee Bishop
in Sophie's life.

Sophie was adjusting nicely,
and any further contact

would have prolonged
the agony of the divorce.

Renee Bishop took
a whole lot of legal avenues

to get some kind
of visitation,

but under Florida law,
she didn't have a leg
to stand on.

Woman raises a kid
for five years,

then gets cut out
of her life--

sounds like
motive to me.

It makes me a little less
worried about the girl.

At least we know her other
mother isn't gonna harm her.

I just got off the phone
with Bishop's roommate in Miami.

According to him, she left
for New York City last week.

Did he say where
she was staying?

No.

What about her cell phone,
trace her through that?

Doesn't have one,
but I did get the LUDs

from her home phone in Miami.

Renee Bishop made over 50 calls

to Lisa Winslow
in the last six months.

That's a lot
of calls

to your ex.

Not if you're
fighting over a kid.

Lieutenant.
Yeah?

Thanks.

Renee Bishop's
credit card charges.

She's been staying
at the Melrose Hotel all week.

Sure, I remember
this little girl.

Cute as a button.
Here with her mom.

Renee Bishop.
Bishop?
Just a minute.

Here she is.

Renee Bishop.

They checked out an hour ago.

Damn. Uh, we're gonna
need a record of
her phone calls.

I'll print one out.

John, come here a minute.

Doorman might know
which way they went.

NYPD. They're looking
for this kid and her mom.

Oh, yeah, I remember them.

Uh, put them on the hotel
shuttle to Port Authority.

Thanks.

Great. By now they're on
a bus to God knows where.

518. I know
that area code.

It's upstate
someplace, right?

There were a couple of 518 calls
on her Florida LUDs.

Same number.
Bloomington, New York.

That's not that far.

That's, like, two hours
on the thruway, near Kingston.

Call Port Authority,
the phone company and
the state police.

I'll drive.

Sir?

Have you seen this
little girl on the bus?

They got off last stop.
Rosendale.

They're not here, Ed.
I know. Let's go.

Detective, they were
sitting behind me.

The little girl said
she was hungry,

and her mother said
they would get something

to eat after they
got off the bus.

Thank you, ma'am.
I appreciate that.

There's a pizza joint
behind the depot.

We're all over it.
Thank you.

Renee Bishop?

Please, not here,
not in front of
my little girl.

Come on, ma'am, let's
just make this easy

on everybody, huh?

Grandma, what's happening?

Don't worry, baby.

It's okay, honey.

Everything's going to be okay.

You can come,
too, sweetie.
No.

Leave her here with me.
I'll take her home.

I'm sorry, ma'am,
we can't do that.

I'm her grandmother.
Ma'am, I'm sorry.

When we get to the city,
Social Services

will take very good
care of Sophie.

Will I be able
to see her?

Sorry, ma'am,
that's not up to us.

We're gonna take
a little ride,
sweetheart, okay?

Mommy's coming, too.
What about Grandma?

Grandma's gonna have
to stay here for now.

You go along with those men--
I'll see you later, baby.

Bye, Grandma.
Bye, baby.

Bye, Mom.
Bye.

Bye, Grandma.

Docket 2206,
People v. Renee Bishop.

Charge is one count,
Kidnapping in the Second Degree.

Mr. Hobart,
can we get a plea

before Valentine's
Day is history?

Not guilty.

People on bail.

The people seek remand.

When apprehended,
the defendant was fleeing

with the minor victim
of the kidnapping.

Your Honor, Ms. Bishop
was taking her daughter
for a family visit.

The defendant bears no legal

or familial relationship
to this child.

The People are being
disingenuous.

Wouldn't be

the first time, Counselor.

Defendant is remanded.

Mr. McCoy,
opposing bail,

was that really
necessary?

Your client is charged
with kidnapping,

implicated in Lisa
Winslow's homicide--

you expect us to offer
her a cup of tea?

I was taking my daughter
to see her grandparents.

Renee, please.

Mr. McCoy, your
so-called kidnap is

a custodial disagreement.

Parents run off
with their kids

every day
in divorce cases.

There's no legally
recognized relation

between your client
and Sophie Winslow.

She's my child.

Not under Florida

or New York statute.
Okay, what do you say

we parse the finer points

of family law another day?

We all know you would've brought

homicide charges
if you had a case.

Since you didn't,
you don't.
Not yet.

So what are you saying?

You're leveraging
a trumped-up kidnap charge

to investigate a murder?

For better or worse, Florida law
gives us that authority.

The law? The law wasn't there
when I was on the phone

with Sophie every day...
and she was crying,

telling me how much
she missed me.

My client was going

to be in New York,
to visit her parents.

She spoke to Ms. Winslow
a couple of weeks ago

to see if something
couldn't be worked out.

For Sophie's sake.

Ms. Winslow agreed my
client could see Sophie.

Sophie didn't have school
that day,

so we decided to have lunch
at their house.

When Ms. Bishop
got to the house,

that morning, per agreement,

she had no idea
what had happened.

But after she talked
to the police,

you grabbed Sophie and ran off.

An understandable
panic response.

When the police told her
what had happened to Lisa,

she was terrified that she'd
never get to see Sophie again.

You can imagine, Mr. McCoy,
how I felt.

I can also imagine

that you were so angry
at Lisa Winslow

for taking Sophie away from you,
that you threw her off a balcony

in a rage.

Renee Bishop

just happens to be in town
the day Lisa Winslow's murdered?

Never been a big fan
of coincidence.

And given Renee Bishop's account
of the facts,

I don't even know if a jury
will see this as a kidnapping.

And I don't care,
given the fact
that Ms. Bishop

is probably also a murderer,

and the kidnap charge
lets us hold her.

Besides, Serena,
the Florida statute

is not some technicality;

it's the law.

Florida's in the minority, sir.

Is it?
Most states permit
some form

of gay adoption, Arthur,
including New York.

They don't specifically
prohibit it,

you mean.

Pusillanimous "Don't ask,
don't tell" policies--

hardly a ringing endorsement
of the underlying question.

Which makes
a lot of folks queasy.

Now, tell me, how are we gonna

go about making out
a homicide case

against this Bishop woman?

Everything about Lisa Winslow
screams type-A+ personality.

Olympic athlete,
Phi Beta at Brown...

Well, New York's full
of ambitious women.

What're you thinking?
Well, Renee Bishop said

that she arranged to meet
Lisa and Sophie at their home.

You think she's lying?

I think that
Lisa Winslow

would sooner cut off
her little finger

than take time
out of her busy schedule

in the middle of a business day.

The 25th...

Ah, you mean the day after.

All I see here are
back-to-back-to-back meetings.

No mention of going
home for lunch?

Mm. At 11:45,
she was going to pitch

her services
to the GenTech Corporation.

Is there any possibility
she canceled?

Blow off a potential
Fortune 500 account?

Do you have any idea
how long it took her

to get that contact?

I'm gonna need
the number for GenTech.

The CEO of GenTech told
me that Lisa Winslow

never canceled
her appointment.

She even confirmed
it the day before.

Strike one on Bishop.

Lisa never made
plans with Renee,

for lunch or for
anything else.

Tell Jack, but you better
count to ten first.

I've already told
you, Mrs. Bishop,

I can't discuss
the case with you.

I'm terrified

of losing my daughter.

Please don't take
my granddaughter, too.

Ultimately,

it's not up to me.

Whatever's deemed best
for the child.

What's best for Sophie

is to be with her mother.
Or us.

My husband and I,
we're her family, Mr. McCoy.

If Renee has to go to jail,
we'd adopt her.

We love her.

It took a while with Frank--
he's old-fashioned--

but when he saw
those blue eyes...

Mrs. Bishop...

You can't send her

to the Winslows, Mr. McCoy.

They've never even seen Sophie.

They've never sent her
so much as a birthday card.

And now she's with
Social Services,

and they won't let me see her.

I can't make any promises.

Anything you can do for us,
Mr. McCoy, please.

All of the calls originated

from Renee's phone
in Florida.

There wasn't one
returned phone call

from Lisa Winslow.

She was harassing her.

Yeah, but look at
the time frame, Jack--

All of the calls were
between 3:00 and 5:00 p.m.

After school, but before
the end of the workday.

Renee talked to Sophie,
never to Lisa.

The calls stopped
two months ago.

Lisa finds out that Renee
is talking to Sophie,

puts an end to it,
and cuts off

all contact between them.

And that pushes Renee
over the edge.

She comes to New York and
returns the favor, literally.

If you can confirm that, we're
looking at a homicide charge.

I'll talk to the nanny.

Go straight to the source.

Sophie.

Where'd you get your bunny?

Mommy Renee gave it to me.

She's a cutie-pie.

Did you and Mommy Renee
ever talk

after you and Mommy Lisa
moved to New York?

I'm not supposed to say.

I have a secret, too--
you want to hear it?

Yeah.

When I was seven,

I put soap on my little
brother's toothbrush...

Gross!

Did you get a time-out?

I sure did.

Me, too.

When Mommy Lisa found out

that you were talking
to Mommy Renee?

She got mad.

What did Mommy Renee say, honey?

She said not to tell anyone.

You're not going to tell, right?

No, darling, I won't tell.

Grandma!

Grandma! Grandma!

Hey, baby.

Tell Mr. McCoy...
tell him thank you.

Grandma,
can you take me home now?

I'd rather observe an autopsy
than go through that again.

And Sophie Winslow kept the
calls secret from her mother?

I have assistants in this office

don't show that kind
of self-restraint.

Mr. Branch's office.

Your theory's right, Jack.
It's murder two.

Felony homicide.

Renee Bishop intentionally
killed Lisa Winslow

in furtherance
of the kidnapping.

The theory's beginning
to look more like fact.

M.E. just confirmed that
Renee Bishop's DNA

was on the contact lens.
She was there.

Game, set, match.

Before you go jumping the net,

we've got the child
to consider.

See if Mr. Hobart grasps
the wisdom of a plea

under the present circumstances.

The DNA evidence is
incontrovertible.

Not a word.

We'll be amending the indictment

to include murder
in the second degree.

That's absurd.
It was self-defense.

Ms. Winslow was drunk,

she attacked my client,
they struggled.

Save it, Mr. Hobart.

The facts say otherwise.

She pleads to the top count,

we won't oppose
the minimum sentence.

How long is that?

Sophie will be in
college before you're
eligible for parole.

I can't do that.

Who'll take care of her,
the Winslows?

They don't even
want her.

Some foster home?

She won't grow up without me.

Win, lose or draw, Ms. Bishop,

you'll never have
custodial rights.

Not necessarily.

We've retained local counsel
in Florida.

He filed suit this morning
on Ms. Bishop's behalf.

Challenging the
constitutionality

of the Florida law
barring gays from adopting.

The Florida statute
has nothing to do

with the charges
against your client.

It has everything
to do with them.

If Ms. Bishop is acquitted
and if we prevail in Florida...

You win the criminal case and
overturn the Florida statute,

Ms. Bishop can sue

for custody of Sophie.

At least she
has a chance.

If she takes a plea

she's a convicted felon,
an unfit parent.

Any decision in Florida
is years away

Things are
moving fast.

Look at the Massachusetts case
on gay marriage.

It's only a matter of time.

You're being given dangerous
advice, Ms. Bishop.

You'll lose both cases,
you'll lose everything.

Take the plea.

No.

I can't.

I have no choice.

Renee Bishop doesn't stand
a snowflake's chance in Hades

of winning in the
Florida courts.

The Massachusetts Supreme Court

ruled that the law against gay
marriage is unconstitutional.

That's Massachusetts.

We're talking
about Florida.

That's why we
have states.

Different states
will draw the line

at different places
on this issue.

Just where we were going with
abortion before Roe v. Wade.

Old state's rights proponent
like you, Arthur?

I'm surprised you
oppose gay marriage.

But I don't.

Don't necessarily
approve of it, either.

Far as I'm concerned,

it's none of my business,

or the Federal Government's.

I can't believe

we're on the same side of this.

I may have to reconsider
my position.

Hobart's moving to dismiss
the kidnapping charge

against Renee Bishop.

"The Florida law barring gay
adoption being unconstitutional,

"there is a parent-child
relationship

"between Renee Bishop
and Sophie Winslow.

Therefore, the New York
kidnap charge is invalid."

A mother can't kidnap
her own child.

Kidnap charge goes,

proof of Renee's intent
to kill goes with it--

the murder count is undermined.

We still have motive:

one spouse kills another
over a child.

It happens every day.

On the other hand, if Hobart
wins the motion...

He argues they just had a heated
discussion that got out of hand.

It becomes she said, she said.

The odds of conviction drop
to 50-50.

Good luck to him sailing
that past Judge Bradley.

Judge, the probability
that the defendant

will prevail in Florida
is infinitesimal.

New York law
controls here.

Ms. Bishop had no authority
to take the child.

Ethically, morally, Renee Bishop
had ever right to take Sophie.

That fact
that she is a gay woman

should not have been dispositive
of her rights

in Florida or in New York.

I don't give a damn who sleeps
with who, counselor.

I sure as hell don't care about
some backward, redneck statute.

I see this more
along the lines
of a family dispute.

Renee Bishop is
emphatically not family.

Catch-22-- Florida law won't
allow gays marry and then

it says they can't adopt because
they're not a family.

He's bootstrapping, Judge.

The defendant is the mother

because she might overturn a law

that bars her
from being the mother?

You're putting the mule

before the cart's even built,
Mr. Hobart.

That's an issue for
the Florida courts
to decide someday.

Until then, the parties have
a trial to prepare for.

Motion to dismiss is denied.

Judge, if I may?

Make it quick, Mr. Hobart.

Sophie Winslow-- I've decided
to call her as a witness.

At what cost to Sophie?

I am disinclined to allow it,
Mr. Hobart.

In her own mind,

Renee Bishop was acting
to protect her family.

The child can establish
the familial relationship,

at least in Renee's mind,
existed.

Novel theory.

Judge, it's an unnecessary
burden for the child,

and a naked attempt to appeal
to the jury's emotions.

Of which you are never guilty,
Mr. McCoy.

The child can testify
for the defense,

but I will cut you off
in a heartbeat

if I see her in trouble,
Mr. Hobart.

The deceased weighed
137 pounds.

Had she simply fallen,

her trajectory would have
put her here,

on this lower rooftop.

How do you account for where
the body was actually found?

To reach this point,
where her body was recovered,

she had to have
been pushed-- hard.

Additionally, there were
bruisesto her arms and hip

consistent with being grabbed
and hurled

with some force over
the balcony guardrail.

Nothing further.

What was Ms. Winslow's
blood alcohol again?

One point two.

That's intoxicated,
isn't it?

Yes.

Well over the legal limit,
in fact?

It affects different
individuals

differently.

There are a lot of factors:

body weight, stomach content,
tolerance to alcohol.

Are you familiar

with the term
"falling-down drunk"?

Objection.
Sustained.

Rephrase or move on, counselor.

Hypothetically,
had Ms. Winslow--

intoxicated as she was--
come at Renee Bishop,

isn't it possible

that Renee Bishop, in an act
of self-defense,

adrenaline pumping,

could have deflected
Lisa Winslow's attack,

propelling her to the point
where her body was found?

Not the way I read the evidence.

But it is possible,
hypothetically?

Anything's possible.

Redirect, Mr. McCoy?

Nothing, Your Honor.

The People rest.

I'm in first grade.

Last year,
I was in kindergarten.

And when you were in
preschool, in Florida,

who got you ready in the morning

and who took you to school?

Mommy Renee.

And who picked you up
from school?

Mommy Renee.

And Mommy Lisa,
did she ever take
you to school?

She had to work.

What about when you
got home from school,

what'd you do?

Sometimes we went to the park.

Or we had a tickle fight,
or we played dress up.

We? Who do you
mean, honey?

Me and Mommy Renee.

Your Honor, we get the picture.

Ms. Bishop was the primary
caregiver,

Ms. Winslow
the breadwinner.

A rather traditional arrangement
we're all familiar with.

Wrap it up, counselor.

Thank you, Sophie.
You did great.

Thanks.

Hi, Sophie.

Hi.

You love Mommy Renee,
don't you?

Yes.

How about Mommy Lisa?

I love her, too.

You miss her?

A lot.

She's on a trip.

When Mommy Renee called you
just before she came to visit,

do you remember that?

Yes.

Did she ask you where
Mommy Lisa was?

I told her she was at the hotel
giving a speech.

It's her work.

Thank you, Sophie.

Mommy Lisa's going
to come home soon.

She's going to come and get me.

When I came out in high school,

my father told me that there
was nothing that I could do

that would ever make him
stop loving me.

But even with my parents'
love and support

I felt completely alienated.

I knew that I would never
get married, have children,

all the things that straight
people take for granted.

Continuing objection
to this line of questioning.

Get to the heart
of the matter, counselor.

What happened when
you met Lisa Winslow?

We fell in love.

I wanted to make a life
with her.

And when we adopted Sophie,
it seemed complete.

We...?

I mean Lisa.

In Florida,
gay people can't adopt.

So to get around the law,

Lisa adopted Sophie
as a single parent.

She made a lot more money
than I did.

She was a stronger applicant,

and it just...
it just made sense.

She said
it was a formality.

Because of the Florida law.

Tell us about your family life.

Your Honor, Sophie Winslow has
already testified about this.

Sustained.
Move on, Mr. Hobart.

Why did your
marriage break up?

Your Honor...

Withdrawn.

Why did you and Lisa
split up?

Lisa left me.

She met someone else.

I got a lawyer,
but he told me

that there was nothing
I could do.

I lost everything.

Renee, why did you
go to the hotel?

I went to the hotel

to talk to Lisa,
to find some way to reach her,

to do what was best for Sophie.

But Lisa was drunk
and abusive.

She told me that
she would never let me

back into Sophie's life.

She said that Sophie
was starting to forget me.

What happened then,

after she told you that you
could never see Sophie again?

I felt sick.

I just went out onto the balcony
to get some air.

And I guess
she followed me out there

and she was yelling,
she slurring her words.

That's the way she always did
when she got drunk,

and she was pushing at me.

And she's a lot stronger
than I am and she's bigger

and I was just scared,

and I guess I just
must've pushed her back,

because then she just
lost her balance and she fell.

Did Ms. Winslow
invite you to her hotel?

No.

Did she even know
you were in New York?

I don't know.

In actuality,
you went to her hotel

and ambushed her.

No, I went to the hotel
to talk to her, period.

When you got to her hotel,
you attacked her

and pushed her to her death.

I didn't.

She attacked me.

She fell;
it was an accident.

You didn't call 911
for an ambulance or the police.

You abducted her child
and got on a bus.

My child.

Our child.

I just did
what any parent would do.

You took Sophie and ran,
yes or no?

How could I abduct my own child?

If anybody is guilty
of kidnapping, it was Lisa.

Can I get a pint
please, Marty?

You got any kids, McCoy?

What difference
does that make?

If somebody tried to take them,
what would you do?

Fight like hell within
the strictures of the law.

That's easy for you to say;
the laws are all on your side.

Even divorced, you don't lose
your status as a father.

A crackhead who sells
his daughter for ten dollars

has a chance
of getting her back.

Renee had nothing.

Should Renee Bishop be able
to adopt a child with her lover,

get married, raise a family?

Questions for other courts
on other days, Mr. Hobart.

That day is coming. Soon.

Offer stands.

She can shave ten years
off her sentence.

She won't go for it.

She'll try anything to stay
in her daughter's life.

You're banking on the hope

there's a gay person
on that jury.

I'm banking there's a parent.

This isn't about
gay or straight.

This isn't even about murder.

There was no murder here.

This is about a tragic accident
arising from a tragic situation,

created by an unfeeling partner
and an unfair law.

Most of all,
this is about a parent,

a mother whose child
was taken from her.

Renee Bishop didn't come to
New York to kill Lisa Winslow.

She came to talk to her,
to reason with her,

to plead with her.

She came to see her daughter.
Their daughter.

But Lisa Winslow didn't want
to talk, or listen.

She was drunk and angry.

She attacked Renee Bishop.

Renee Bishop did not act
except in defense,

of herself, and of her child.

Make no mistake,

there was no crime,

no murder on the balcony
that night.

Only a tragedy.

Of course, Renee Bishop
is Sophie Winslow's mother,

in every sense of the word
that matters.

But so was Lisa Winslow.

And what kind of parent
kills her child's other parent?

Mr. Hobart reminds you
of the bond

between Renee Bishop
and Sophie Winslow.

But he wants you forget the bond
between Sophie and Lisa,

the woman who adopted her
and loved her

as much as Renee Bishop does.

This case is not about
who's the better mother,

or about a law which may
well be antiquated and unfair.

It's not about what
Renee Bishop suffered...

but about what Renee Bishop did.

And what she did
was kill Lisa Winslow.

And that law,
which she violated,

is as sure and certain
as the evidence is conclusive.

As much as you might empathize
with her plight,

you must return a verdict of
guilty against Renee Bishop.

As to the first count
of the indictment,

Murder in the Second Degree,
how do you find?

We find the defendant,
Renee Bishop,

guilty as charged.

As to the second count,
Kidnapping in the Second Degree?

We find the defendant
guilty as charged.

The jury is dismissed
with the thanks of the Court.

Short date for sentence.

Come on, ma'am,
let's go.

You win some,
you win some.

I'm comfortable
with the outcome.

Which would've been the same
if they'd been heterosexual.

But would any of this
have happened

if they'd been allowed
to adopt as a married couple?

They knew the law in Florida.

If they didn't like it, they
could've moved to another state.

I knew we weren't
on the same side of this.

I say let them marry.

Why shouldn't they be as
miserable as the rest of us?