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You can't do all that yet – you can't even see the big picture. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Picture, man. 4 00:00:06,450 --> 00:00:14,810 (Skateboard rolls) 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 6 00:00:16,180 --> 00:00:34,680 (cheerful music) 7 00:00:34,690 --> 00:00:34,700 Nice. 8 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:37,730 It's not her crimson lips. 9 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:40,240 Willie Sanchez. 10 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:40,269 Or 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,960 My film "We Are Skateboarders" was indeed a very 12 00:00:44,020 --> 00:00:47,300 The much-discussed skateboard documentary was actually 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,100 the second most-watched skateboard documentary 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,710 directly below Dogtown and the Z-Boys. 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,260 It was, uh, definitely not 16 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:58,640 Commercial success. Uh, 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,760 I believe I earned at most $25,000 over time. 18 00:01:02,820 --> 00:01:05,720 The last 16 years since its release in November 19 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:07,700 2010. 20 00:01:07,780 --> 00:01:10,500 Her evil love. Her evil love. Her evil love. Yes. 21 00:01:10,540 --> 00:01:13,870 You hear it in therapy, in the field of mental health, or when trying to re-evaluate things. 22 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:16,160 How do you define success, for example? 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,020 I, for example, travel all over the place, back and forth, here and there. 24 00:01:20,060 --> 00:01:21,460 So, how I messed it up. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,420 It's not that devilish smile or that pitch-black black. 26 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:26,080 Her 27 00:01:27,260 --> 00:01:29,230 or houses that are ready to burn down. 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,600 But the truth is that over time I have to accept the following: 29 00:01:32,620 --> 00:01:36,440 One area where I have significantly improved is the fact that 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,860 I suffered from an undiagnosed bipolar disorder. 31 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:42,920 With their evil ways. With their love. Their wickedness. 32 00:01:43,180 --> 00:01:45,370 Love. Her evil love. 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,310 I don't think this is a typical textbook quote, but I would describe it as undiagnosed. 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Bipolar disorder – an emotional and mental tyrant. 35 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:56,280 You know, that actually applies to me, and what I've experienced is this: 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,710 The best way to put it. 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,420 (laughs) 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Devilish. 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,520 Damn right, dude. I love you, dog. 40 00:02:04,580 --> 00:02:09,600 Seriously. 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,160 It's not her crimson lips. 42 00:02:11,180 --> 00:02:13,920 It's really annoying, because when I look back on this experience, I 43 00:02:14,020 --> 00:02:16,950 I feel nothing but hatred. 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Um, not just because of experience in general, but actually with regard to 45 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,580 Myself. Um, very, very serious. 46 00:02:24,340 --> 00:02:28,220 Resentment and anger that I left 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,460 behind everyone I have ever loved 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,240 being surrounded by professional skateboarders, whom I normally... 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Film for one or two days and then never see each other again. 50 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:43,400 One day, about five months ago, I was in therapy and I was 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Something like: “Jack, well, I, uh, I can’t anymore…” 52 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:50,530 "I've been nurturing this for 15 years." You know? I mean, I've been nurturing this for 15 years. 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,480 I repressed it for 15 years. 54 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:52,680 How, 55 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:57,620 But when I tell you this in the session, you'll know, it's simply free thinking. 56 00:02:57,660 --> 00:03:01,540 And then I fire, and I start crying so hard that I can't anymore. 57 00:03:01,580 --> 00:03:02,500 even be legible. 58 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,220 So I thought: Okay, I'll write it out in an essay. 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,620 The entire experience, just for you, so you can read it. 60 00:03:10,060 --> 00:03:13,780 And then we continued talking. And it worked. 61 00:03:13,820 --> 00:03:17,000 It helped. It triggered a whole chain reaction. 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Revelations. 63 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:26,940 Skateboarding is one of the few things that are still real in this world, and 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,020 We are skateboarders. 65 00:03:30,380 --> 00:03:44,460 (Wheels roll) 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,540 It only got better when I placed this great deal of trust in the therapy. 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,580 And, uh, you know, I think here's a really good example. 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,600 So I had this diary, this little diary, and, um, I 69 00:03:57,620 --> 00:04:00,500 would take the diary, um, any 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Tag 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,460 I went to a CVS pharmacy and sat down in the alley behind it. 72 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:10,260 and I would record my psychotic thoughts in a diary. 73 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Like, 74 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,100 You know, I was repeatedly in a psychotic state and simply in a 75 00:04:16,180 --> 00:04:18,720 persistent state of manic depression. 76 00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:22,740 Um, what breaks my heart is that I did exactly that. 77 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,750 On my 19th birthday. You know, roughly, and during 78 00:04:26,940 --> 00:04:30,360 In therapy, I'm working very hard to never look back in anger again. 79 00:04:30,460 --> 00:04:34,420 or with sadness or even self-pity, along the lines of: I never want to again 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,940 Look back and remember how that felt. 81 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,120 As always, you know? Um, 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,180 But 83 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:45,980 That was before I finally started publishing anything. 84 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:50,090 Everything I held onto for 15 years because I simply couldn't bear it. 85 00:04:50,140 --> 00:04:54,030 Not anymore. And I think since I 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,460 I had this thought about how I approach looking at myself. 87 00:04:57,540 --> 00:05:01,420 Then, um, through the lens I have now, uh, 88 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:06,050 Sixteen years later, it was actually something like the beginning of 89 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,480 everything. 90 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,240 When I was 17, my mother took me to see a medium. 91 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:15,060 And back then, you know, I would have done anything with it, or 92 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,060 For my mother. And so I did it, exactly as the medium had told me. 93 00:05:19,140 --> 00:05:22,330 I wanted to make a skateboarding film that would change the world. 94 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:26,260 World. And although by no means 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,520 I made a skateboarding documentary, We Are Skateboarders, which... 96 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:31,940 World, um, I think that 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,940 I had the opportunity to make this film because I had this medium. 98 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:40,940 And it took me a long time to say those words. 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,540 Something bigger than you, you understand? 100 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,380 It's as if you were part of the culture, as if you were part of the 101 00:05:47,460 --> 00:05:49,000 People around you. 102 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:52,930 For me, the motivation of every skateboarder is learning a new trick. 103 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,780 whether it's about learning a 5-0 on a mini ramp or about learning 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,540 Do a Switch 360 heel flip. You know, something like that. 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,330 The essential thing is to find this joy in progress, because there is 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,420 There's nothing else like it. You know, money can't buy something like this. 107 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:10,630 That surpasses all fame and fortune, 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,712 Status. Uh... Having a Pro model. I mean, just that. 109 00:06:14,772 --> 00:06:18,671 the feeling that skateboarding gives you, the feeling of that achievement, you 110 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:22,682 You know? And when you roll away, um, it's an incredibly great feeling. 111 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:23,292 of the world. 112 00:06:23,332 --> 00:06:26,992 Oh no! (Happy music) 113 00:06:27,002 --> 00:06:33,592 (Skateboards roll) 114 00:06:34,572 --> 00:06:40,332 Was 115 00:06:40,512 --> 00:06:41,332 What the hell? 116 00:06:41,352 --> 00:06:42,502 Are you trying to threaten me? 117 00:06:43,452 --> 00:06:45,712 Stay back, we're skateboarding. 118 00:06:45,732 --> 00:06:46,082 The 119 00:06:46,082 --> 00:06:48,021 What are you looking at? To most of society, that makes absolutely no sense. 120 00:06:48,021 --> 00:06:51,952 (Skateboards roll) Nobody should 121 00:06:51,992 --> 00:06:54,292 to be present on this property in any way. 122 00:06:55,512 --> 00:06:59,132 (Skateboards roll) And then there's us. 123 00:06:59,142 --> 00:07:01,352 Skaters for whom it makes perfect sense, 124 00:07:02,372 --> 00:07:04,972 where, uh, it's simply a different world. 125 00:07:04,992 --> 00:07:08,592 It's a place where you can escape from everyday life. And it's a place for 126 00:07:08,672 --> 00:07:11,512 You and your friends, to escape together. 127 00:07:11,522 --> 00:07:15,352 It makes absolutely no logical sense what skaters are doing, grinding on edges, jumping. 128 00:07:15,392 --> 00:07:19,272 Gaps down. I mean, it looks cool, but it also feels great and 129 00:07:19,292 --> 00:07:22,252 It transports you directly into the moment like nothing else. 130 00:07:22,292 --> 00:07:24,452 And it reminds you that you are alive. 131 00:07:25,092 --> 00:07:28,932 I think that between what she had said and what she had already flown, I am thinking of the situation that lay between what she had said and the current flying. 132 00:07:28,991 --> 00:07:32,732 with delusions of grandeur and... Because that is actually a very common thing. 133 00:07:32,792 --> 00:07:36,602 Symptom of bipolar disorder. Um, I just... 134 00:07:36,692 --> 00:07:40,252 When I watched it back then, it was as if something suddenly happened in my head, like: "What?" 135 00:07:40,292 --> 00:07:42,532 "What would you do if you couldn't fail?", you know? 136 00:07:42,592 --> 00:07:46,432 When my best friend went home that summer, 137 00:07:46,552 --> 00:07:50,072 I simply said to myself: "I will become a 138 00:07:50,132 --> 00:07:53,352 A skateboard documentary that should be sold worldwide 139 00:07:53,392 --> 00:07:57,332 DVD, and I will see it through to the end and 140 00:07:57,452 --> 00:08:01,252 "I don't care what happens to me." In the end, I lived with a very, very 141 00:08:01,412 --> 00:08:05,192 Sweet mother and daughter, um, in a small house 142 00:08:05,372 --> 00:08:09,182 in Los Angeles. And very, very slowly but surely 143 00:08:09,332 --> 00:08:10,832 started approaching skateboarders. 144 00:08:10,912 --> 00:08:14,682 Um, I just went to skate shops and told them that I wanted 145 00:08:14,712 --> 00:08:18,532 to film with them and "I have an idea for a documentary film". 146 00:08:18,592 --> 00:08:22,132 It all started, uh, on Santa Monica Boulevard. 147 00:08:22,591 --> 00:08:26,132 and Olympic Boulevard. My memory is so bad, I don't remember if it was a 148 00:08:26,192 --> 00:08:28,491 Whether it's a shitty boulevard or a street, I don't care. 149 00:08:28,552 --> 00:08:32,402 So it was actually Alec Beck who tried that. 150 00:08:32,472 --> 00:08:36,441 Classic wallride to the frontboard. And, uh, one of the 151 00:08:36,491 --> 00:08:40,422 On each of the seven days I was filming, this guy just rolled up. 152 00:08:40,452 --> 00:08:43,952 The hill. Oh man. Rest in peace, Curt Stevenson. 153 00:08:43,972 --> 00:08:45,102 I love you, brother. And, um, 154 00:08:46,031 --> 00:08:49,112 He just rolls down the hill and is holding a damn TransWorld magazine. 155 00:08:49,152 --> 00:08:52,922 And the reason he was holding it was because it contained an article about 156 00:08:52,952 --> 00:08:56,702 his father. Could you, uh, could you please send another payment now? 157 00:08:56,752 --> 00:08:57,271 Alter? 158 00:08:57,932 --> 00:09:01,312 Look, your blackmail tactics might work elsewhere, my friend. 159 00:09:01,972 --> 00:09:03,592 But they will have to work here too. 160 00:09:03,852 --> 00:09:07,742 Otherwise, I would have to call you seven times just to receive a single payment. 161 00:09:07,892 --> 00:09:08,312 Alter. 162 00:09:08,372 --> 00:09:09,372 Hold onto. 163 00:09:09,512 --> 00:09:13,452 The first thing Curt said to me, probably even before greeting me, was whether I had ever heard of him. 164 00:09:13,472 --> 00:09:17,152 My father's magazine from the late 80s called Power Edge. 165 00:09:17,232 --> 00:09:21,132 I told him no, and then he asked me if I had ever heard of Rick Kosick from Jackass. 166 00:09:21,172 --> 00:09:25,142 And I said yes. He brought me a shoebox full of issues of the magazine. 167 00:09:25,212 --> 00:09:28,612 I owned old Power Edge magazines, and it was the best magazine I ever had. 168 00:09:28,672 --> 00:09:32,512 saw. For so many of the world's legendary skaters, guys like Tony 169 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:36,352 Hawk, Danny Way, Lance Mountain, Mike Vallely, they have their very 170 00:09:36,392 --> 00:09:38,992 First skateboard photos in a Power Edge magazine. 171 00:09:39,031 --> 00:09:42,642 We drove around for a bit. He explained to me how he recovered from his illness. 172 00:09:42,652 --> 00:09:46,232 his past. "Have you ever done a Batman appearance?" he asked. 173 00:09:46,271 --> 00:09:49,212 "What?" I said. "Have you ever done a Batman performance?" 174 00:09:49,271 --> 00:09:53,152 "Just answer the question." "No." And he did. 175 00:09:53,192 --> 00:09:57,072 He jerked the handbrake on and let the wheels spin, causing the car to do a 180-degree turn in a flash. 176 00:09:57,112 --> 00:10:00,872 to the other side of the street. It was raining, and that was by far the worst part. 177 00:10:00,912 --> 00:10:04,212 The most dangerous thing I've ever done in my life, let alone with someone I'd only known for a short time. 178 00:10:04,232 --> 00:10:07,712 one hour. 179 00:10:09,472 --> 00:10:11,412 Look, Makaha came up with the kicktail. 180 00:10:11,472 --> 00:10:11,802 Yes. 181 00:10:11,812 --> 00:10:15,732 What do you want from me? What do you want from Makaha? What do you need? 182 00:10:15,771 --> 00:10:18,972 You need innovation? Go back, what's that? 50 years? 183 00:10:19,031 --> 00:10:22,092 Okay, let's go back 45 years and see what people were doing back then. 184 00:10:22,112 --> 00:10:25,192 And they're even better designed, I'm sorry. 185 00:10:25,212 --> 00:10:28,911 And that's not because he's your father, but simply because it's the truth. 186 00:10:30,732 --> 00:10:33,911 Curt had to deal with many problems that I could never really identify with, but 187 00:10:33,952 --> 00:10:37,752 His biggest problem, which I fully understood, was that his father, Larry 188 00:10:37,832 --> 00:10:38,372 Stevenson- 189 00:10:38,392 --> 00:10:42,222 When I see double. 190 00:10:42,271 --> 00:10:46,232 I see that you are standing by my side in two ways. You are taking me. 191 00:10:46,271 --> 00:10:49,281 page. I can't so much 192 00:10:49,752 --> 00:10:50,642 Lie. 193 00:10:52,012 --> 00:10:55,712 You're taking my side. Give me 194 00:10:55,771 --> 00:10:58,612 My pride is back. 195 00:11:00,332 --> 00:11:03,952 Larry Stevenson is not only the original publisher of Power Edge magazine, but also the 196 00:11:03,992 --> 00:11:07,732 He is the creator of Makaha skateboards, but he is also the reason why skateboards are not 197 00:11:07,832 --> 00:11:11,672 No longer flat. Larry Stevenson patented it in 1971. 198 00:11:11,752 --> 00:11:12,252 Kick Tail. 199 00:11:12,472 --> 00:11:13,322 I'm not very good at lying. 200 00:11:13,372 --> 00:11:16,932 In my opinion, Curt tried to save his father from Parkinson's disease by bringing him back. 201 00:11:16,952 --> 00:11:20,092 He brought his old magazine back to life, and I wanted to help him. 202 00:11:21,492 --> 00:11:22,322 You're on my side. Give me back my pride. 203 00:11:22,412 --> 00:11:24,361 Right at that moment, I swear, he just said: 204 00:11:25,432 --> 00:11:28,531 He told me all about Power Edge and said something like: 205 00:11:29,352 --> 00:11:32,672 "Would you like to become editor-in-chief of this magazine?" So I was 206 00:11:32,712 --> 00:11:35,432 Something like: "Yes, of course." Do you understand? 207 00:11:35,502 --> 00:11:38,872 And I wrote home and immediately wrote an essay entitled 208 00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:41,332 Alive, and, um, that's what it was all about the whole time. 209 00:11:42,512 --> 00:11:46,472 I felt alive, but the difference between living and feeling alive – and I made it happen. 210 00:11:46,512 --> 00:11:50,492 him, and he loved it and, uh, you know, in 211 00:11:50,531 --> 00:11:51,781 his own way. 212 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:55,392 (laughs) Of course there was also Spencer, the graphic designer at Power Edge, who 213 00:11:55,432 --> 00:11:58,452 He learned a new meaning of patience when he dealt with a 19-year-old who explained to him how 214 00:11:58,492 --> 00:12:02,452 to create a magazine. And Romano, the editor, who did all 215 00:12:02,472 --> 00:12:06,192 His greatest wish in life was to interview Mike V., which he did, and we included it in the... 216 00:12:06,232 --> 00:12:10,172 Magazine. I love Romano more than anything, but he was even crazier than me and 217 00:12:10,212 --> 00:12:11,372 Curt. 218 00:12:13,512 --> 00:12:16,426 The only sport where falling down is accepted… 219 00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:20,376 Skateboarding is just skateboarding, damn it. Think about it, it's totally okay. 220 00:12:20,436 --> 00:12:22,316 When you roll. I mean, in hockey you fight, but 221 00:12:22,996 --> 00:12:30,186 Skateboarding... 222 00:12:30,186 --> 00:12:34,036 Damn right, Romano. (Instrumental music begins) The craziest thing about the whole thing 223 00:12:34,116 --> 00:12:37,396 The problem is that I didn't receive a single cent for creating the magazine until the third day. 224 00:12:37,456 --> 00:12:40,736 There was a problem when I asked for $300 a month if they wanted me to 225 00:12:40,776 --> 00:12:44,336 on. After about three months of working for the magazine, I 226 00:12:44,376 --> 00:12:48,276 I contacted Jake Brown through Power Edge's MySpace profile, and he was totally thrilled. 227 00:12:48,316 --> 00:12:52,276 for Power Edge. We met at the Roosevelt Hotel on the Hollywood Strip, and then 228 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:55,976 One night it seemed as if all the doors suddenly opened for me. 229 00:12:57,236 --> 00:13:01,216 After receiving sponsorship from Power Edge magazine regarding skateboarding… 230 00:13:01,276 --> 00:13:05,216 and the skateboard industry, uh, and my ability to simply 231 00:13:05,276 --> 00:13:09,056 I couldn't approach a professional skateboarder or call him; I had no way to do so. 232 00:13:09,116 --> 00:13:12,996 The problem is basically that I can't get a single job interview that I want. 233 00:13:13,036 --> 00:13:14,056 professional skateboarder 234 00:13:15,096 --> 00:13:17,296 Legends or the most popular boy of the time. 235 00:13:17,306 --> 00:13:21,106 (Rock music plays) 236 00:13:21,116 --> 00:13:24,156 Welcome back to Daily Habit, presented by Verizon Wireless. 237 00:13:24,196 --> 00:13:27,956 Guest presenter Will Tan is here with filmmaker and editor Ben Duffy and professional skateboarder Sammy. 238 00:13:27,996 --> 00:13:31,916 Baptista. Welcome to the show. Yes. Welcome back, Sammy. Thank you for the invitation. 239 00:13:31,956 --> 00:13:33,236 How are you? Good. 240 00:13:33,256 --> 00:13:33,836 Yes, Man. 241 00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:36,996 Cool, cool. So, we're here to, um, talk a little bit about your new film "We Are". 242 00:13:37,096 --> 00:13:38,116 Skateboarder. 243 00:13:38,536 --> 00:13:38,586 Perfect. 244 00:13:38,596 --> 00:13:39,946 Okay. No, thank you. Just... 245 00:13:40,676 --> 00:13:40,766 Okay. 246 00:13:40,766 --> 00:13:41,856 Skateboarding is a crime. 247 00:13:43,516 --> 00:13:46,096 Back then, there were only five kids in my high school who 248 00:13:46,196 --> 00:13:49,976 He went ice skating. It wasn't anything cool. Well, that's exactly why it was cool, because you... 249 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:51,696 Do something else. 250 00:13:51,756 --> 00:13:53,886 Oh, perfect. (laughs) No problem. 251 00:13:53,956 --> 00:13:55,556 I use it in my butt crack. 252 00:13:56,956 --> 00:14:00,096 Circumstantial evidence. Face in my 253 00:14:00,236 --> 00:14:03,976 Spirit. Trial without a jury. 254 00:14:05,556 --> 00:14:07,456 The tails on the shirt. 255 00:14:07,476 --> 00:14:08,316 Where? 256 00:14:08,376 --> 00:14:11,616 Just because you have penises on your t-shirt doesn't mean you're gay. 257 00:14:11,696 --> 00:14:15,166 Just because you take a picture with a gay man doesn't mean you're queer. 258 00:14:15,196 --> 00:14:18,656 And if... you know what? I'd rather hang out with a gay guy than with a fucking... 259 00:14:18,876 --> 00:14:22,756 Athletes, anytime. I'm sorry. It'll stop you. 260 00:14:22,796 --> 00:14:26,596 Murdering people deters you from breaking into houses. 261 00:14:26,606 --> 00:14:29,636 It doesn't stop you, it just forces you to do things. 262 00:14:29,736 --> 00:14:33,636 less. (laughs) Believe me, it is 263 00:14:33,736 --> 00:14:36,216 It's not a cure-all, but it's damn good. 264 00:14:36,256 --> 00:14:38,556 helps. 265 00:14:40,136 --> 00:14:43,706 Oh! (Soft music plays) It still helps so much. 266 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:46,226 I'm giving you this support and this kind of appreciation, along the lines of: "Everything's okay." Yes. 267 00:14:46,226 --> 00:14:48,026 Yes, yes. "Someone's behind this. Let's do it." Something like that. 268 00:14:48,056 --> 00:14:50,396 Jake Brown said: "Oh, I'm totally into Power Edge," you know? 269 00:14:50,405 --> 00:14:52,976 And then I met him – wonderful. ... and then that night at the Hotel Rosa, 270 00:14:53,016 --> 00:14:56,366 For example, I interviewed Sean Sheffey, Griff Berg, and Colin McKay. Completely unexpectedly. 271 00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:58,246 And I met Rob Dyrdek that evening, and I said, "Rob, you want..." 272 00:14:58,256 --> 00:14:59,836 "Do you want to join?" He replied: And everyone joined in. 273 00:14:59,876 --> 00:15:03,106 He said something like, "Dude, Power Edge, that was one of the greatest things I've ever experienced." 274 00:15:03,136 --> 00:15:07,116 “Life.” Yes. You know? Honestly, it felt like day after day… 275 00:15:07,356 --> 00:15:11,056 I kept getting closer to, uh, 276 00:15:11,096 --> 00:15:14,796 My symptoms worsened significantly during filming. 277 00:15:14,816 --> 00:15:18,636 Not so much from day to day, but noticeably from week to week. 278 00:15:18,696 --> 00:15:22,276 Week. Um, and when you have no idea what's wrong with you. 279 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:26,016 because you have an undiagnosed bipolar disorder and you have 280 00:15:26,576 --> 00:15:30,436 No one with expertise who could tell you what is actually happening. 281 00:15:30,476 --> 00:15:30,616 Of, 282 00:15:31,496 --> 00:15:35,056 It's incredibly frightening. Seriously, it's absolutely traumatizing. 283 00:15:35,076 --> 00:15:38,876 And I think – and I am neither a psychiatrist nor a therapist – but 284 00:15:39,476 --> 00:15:43,416 I think what makes it even more traumatic is the fact that... 285 00:15:43,476 --> 00:15:47,236 that you're fighting against it. As if you're suppressing all your fear and you're not... 286 00:15:47,316 --> 00:15:49,676 Tell someone about it, you know? 287 00:15:49,696 --> 00:15:53,336 I block it out every day because that's just how it is. 288 00:15:53,836 --> 00:15:57,176 When I pause and think about what the hell I'm feeling and thinking right now, then… 289 00:15:57,216 --> 00:15:58,276 Now I think to myself: 290 00:15:59,176 --> 00:16:03,065 I'm going to curl up in a corner and hide, just drop everything and cry. 291 00:16:03,156 --> 00:16:04,376 wines and wines, and just like 292 00:16:05,536 --> 00:16:08,896 One day I got out of there. I barely ate anything for two years. 293 00:16:08,916 --> 00:16:12,796 So, it was, you know... Oh, you don't go hungry when you 294 00:16:12,836 --> 00:16:14,676 You're holding a camera in your hand. You're hungry when you're finished. 295 00:16:14,696 --> 00:16:15,076 How, 296 00:16:16,276 --> 00:16:20,056 I suppose so. But that's just how it is, what people... 297 00:16:20,156 --> 00:16:23,256 Uh, try to make it sound like it's cool. 298 00:16:23,556 --> 00:16:26,376 But honestly, I'm telling you right now, there was nothing cool about it. 299 00:16:26,416 --> 00:16:30,316 You know, there was once, um, with one of the very first, very few 300 00:16:30,376 --> 00:16:34,315 Skateboarders I became close friends with, really very close; 301 00:16:34,336 --> 00:16:36,315 He was truly like a brother to me. 302 00:16:36,436 --> 00:16:40,166 Um, he just meant something like: "Ben, if you get hungry and you have nothing 303 00:16:40,196 --> 00:16:44,056 Eat enough to be full for the day, some salad and a Snickers, and not... 304 00:16:44,076 --> 00:16:46,476 "Think of everything else." And 305 00:16:47,316 --> 00:16:50,906 It helped. Really, it helped. I believe that 306 00:16:51,056 --> 00:16:52,856 The power of denial of exactly how 307 00:16:54,076 --> 00:16:57,566 If I thought about how hungry I am every day 308 00:16:57,596 --> 00:17:01,356 If the film had been shot all day or at any time on that day, then he would have seen that film. 309 00:17:01,396 --> 00:17:04,726 It was never produced because I simply... 310 00:17:04,736 --> 00:17:08,256 That would have been it, that's what I would have focused on, given how small I was. 311 00:17:08,296 --> 00:17:09,716 Eat. 312 00:17:09,736 --> 00:17:12,086 Have you got it? Have you come far enough yet? 313 00:17:12,216 --> 00:17:16,175 It's on my mind. It's eating away at my spine. 314 00:17:16,216 --> 00:17:18,096 I even set it up for the reverse. See? 315 00:17:18,136 --> 00:17:18,896 I took the pliers. 316 00:17:19,836 --> 00:17:21,056 And I have mine, I have my girlfriend's 317 00:17:21,896 --> 00:17:25,516 I stuffed underwear in as padding (laughs) so I could do a handplant. 318 00:17:25,526 --> 00:17:27,216 (laughs) 319 00:17:27,236 --> 00:17:30,316 In 320 00:17:31,216 --> 00:17:34,116 Danny's underwear. 321 00:17:35,796 --> 00:17:37,776 What do you think will happen? 322 00:17:38,636 --> 00:17:40,576 Ready? 323 00:17:40,816 --> 00:17:41,726 Yes. 324 00:17:44,316 --> 00:17:46,856 I'm thinking more about specific times when 325 00:17:48,116 --> 00:17:51,756 It didn't hurt at all, actually. And that's strange. 326 00:17:51,836 --> 00:17:52,336 Because 327 00:17:53,536 --> 00:17:57,096 For example, uh, one night I was 328 00:17:57,696 --> 00:18:01,576 I'm taking the bus, uh, home from Santa Monica. 329 00:18:01,596 --> 00:18:05,336 Incidentally, I lived on Pico Boulevard, very close to, uh, the whole 330 00:18:05,476 --> 00:18:07,856 Trendy Fairfax district bullshit. 331 00:18:07,976 --> 00:18:11,796 And, um, there was a really nice guy on the bus, and he had a 332 00:18:11,856 --> 00:18:15,835 Skateboard. And uh, Chris actually ended up being my skateboard. 333 00:18:15,876 --> 00:18:17,676 My very first boyfriend in LA, 334 00:18:17,716 --> 00:18:23,584 uh-One 335 00:18:23,644 --> 00:18:26,324 I was at his house that night. (A car drives by.) Uh, he actually lived with me. 336 00:18:26,344 --> 00:18:28,504 His mother back then. You know, we were 19. 337 00:18:28,544 --> 00:18:32,524 His cousin came home and, uh, he was a Crip, and he was like: 338 00:18:32,534 --> 00:18:34,784 "Hey, what's up, dude? What have you been up to?" And he was like: 339 00:18:35,344 --> 00:18:39,324 "Hurtful." And while he said that, he was 340 00:18:39,704 --> 00:18:43,484 Fold his laundry and put it in a chest of drawers. 341 00:18:43,524 --> 00:18:43,804 And 342 00:18:44,704 --> 00:18:48,444 I... Even then, I felt it was so human. 343 00:18:48,524 --> 00:18:52,464 That was a moment I was fortunate enough to experience. It was like: You can do it, great! 344 00:18:52,584 --> 00:18:56,494 A well-trained guy in one of the most dangerous gangs ever. 345 00:18:56,544 --> 00:19:00,164 in America, and he is folding his clothes. 346 00:19:00,744 --> 00:19:04,524 and probably just trying to find inner peace. 347 00:19:04,564 --> 00:19:08,284 all the others. And when I look back, 348 00:19:08,324 --> 00:19:10,784 That is truly a wonderful memory for me. 349 00:19:10,804 --> 00:19:14,644 For example, when I was, um, in Skid Row. 350 00:19:14,764 --> 00:19:18,664 I had just started filming a documentary. 351 00:19:18,704 --> 00:19:22,344 about homeless people. I had told my mother: “Because you sold the house and because 352 00:19:22,424 --> 00:19:26,304 My father is gone, um, I know I'm going to end up homeless. 353 00:19:26,384 --> 00:19:30,164 Me too.” And I wanted to try to feel closer. 354 00:19:30,624 --> 00:19:34,404 I tried to imagine the feelings of homeless people, and therefore told myself: “Every day 355 00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:37,824 I'm not filming for We Are Skateboarders, I'm going downtown. 356 00:19:37,964 --> 00:19:41,044 LA and interview homeless people and simply film in 357 00:19:41,084 --> 00:19:44,964 "Generally speaking." And, um, and I would give them a dollar, 358 00:19:45,064 --> 00:19:48,864 Um, because that was all I had to have enough left over for the trip. 359 00:19:48,904 --> 00:19:52,844 I took the bus home. And, um, you know, I did that for 360 00:19:52,864 --> 00:19:56,784 After about a month I landed in Skid Row and was 361 00:19:56,844 --> 00:20:00,704 I was filming when this guy, this big guy, just walked up to me, pretty 362 00:20:00,764 --> 00:20:03,364 Fast. I just thought, "Oh, shit," and panicked. 363 00:20:03,484 --> 00:20:05,464 And, uh, he just said: "No, no, man." 364 00:20:05,484 --> 00:20:08,224 I don't want to hurt you, but I just wanted to tell you that there's something there. 365 00:20:08,264 --> 00:20:11,144 Those guys down there who told me they were coming to kill and rob you. 366 00:20:11,184 --> 00:20:15,024 "Camera." I just thought, "Oh my God." Like, "Thank you." And then I packed my camera. 367 00:20:15,064 --> 00:20:17,524 Damn it, I quickly put the camera in and then just ran away. 368 00:20:18,464 --> 00:20:22,284 out of Skid Row. And you know how it was back then, when I 369 00:20:22,344 --> 00:20:25,124 Looking back, it's such a beautiful memory for me, because 370 00:20:26,184 --> 00:20:29,624 When I think back on this guy, I only have the best memories. 371 00:20:29,634 --> 00:20:32,024 And the paradox is that… 372 00:20:33,064 --> 00:20:36,884 These are the good memories, and 90% of the memories I have 373 00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:40,644 Half of the filming with the professional skateboarders actually took place. 374 00:20:40,684 --> 00:20:43,684 Painful. For me it was simply like this, (sighs) you 375 00:20:43,724 --> 00:20:44,804 knowledge, 376 00:20:46,064 --> 00:20:49,804 I would be so happy to film them, and especially if they 377 00:20:49,844 --> 00:20:53,524 I landed a trick and filmed it well, and everyone was totally thrilled. 378 00:20:53,584 --> 00:20:55,384 You know, I wasn't the only one who was overjoyed. 379 00:20:56,464 --> 00:21:00,284 It was strange because it wasn't even manic or depressive. 380 00:21:00,404 --> 00:21:04,284 It was as if it were in a state of equilibrium. 381 00:21:04,304 --> 00:21:08,204 Euphoria, just like the feeling, just like all the others 382 00:21:08,244 --> 00:21:10,644 Otherwise, I couldn't care less who you are, what you're going through, or what your 383 00:21:10,684 --> 00:21:14,404 The state is... simply calm, because one has the feeling of having achieved something. 384 00:21:14,464 --> 00:21:18,294 something. And it really was something special and 385 00:21:18,844 --> 00:21:19,104 I would 386 00:21:20,604 --> 00:21:21,124 come back 387 00:21:22,164 --> 00:21:24,984 On the bus on the way home, just like that. 388 00:21:25,004 --> 00:21:28,924 I would say: "I want to fucking kill myself now." 389 00:21:29,844 --> 00:21:32,944 These bus journeys were carried out every day for two people. 390 00:21:32,984 --> 00:21:36,624 Years. I remember, for example, a time when I became ill from 391 00:21:36,704 --> 00:21:40,574 I had a bad stomach infection and tossed and turned in bed as if I... 392 00:21:40,584 --> 00:21:44,384 Phone calls, like searching for someone, a skater, to 393 00:21:44,424 --> 00:21:46,084 Film with me on that day for the documentary. 394 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:50,024 And honestly, I'm so glad that nobody was able to do it. 395 00:21:50,124 --> 00:21:53,864 Because I would have done it, you know, without hesitation, you know? 396 00:21:53,884 --> 00:21:57,844 And that's exactly it. I'd rather be dead. 397 00:21:57,904 --> 00:22:01,784 I'd rather not be filming for my documentary today. Hmm. 398 00:22:01,844 --> 00:22:05,784 This happened every day. (A bus drives by.) The recurring question: Where to? 399 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:09,644 Whether skateboarding will catch on may still be a mystery, but one thing is certain: 400 00:22:09,664 --> 00:22:12,204 Sure, skateboarding has changed. 401 00:22:12,244 --> 00:22:16,124 There was a time when YouTube and blank card games were not yet commonplace, and people 402 00:22:16,204 --> 00:22:19,904 Skate shops were indeed supported. It's often said: "There was a 403 00:22:20,004 --> 00:22:23,874 Do you remember the moment you met another skater on the street and an instant connection was formed? 404 00:22:23,924 --> 00:22:27,844 "Even friendships simply because they were figure skaters." But that seems to be the case. 405 00:22:27,884 --> 00:22:30,984 Nowadays it's just a quote. What really happened to 406 00:22:31,044 --> 00:22:34,324 Has skateboarding perhaps become too popular for his own 407 00:22:34,384 --> 00:22:37,994 Good? Where is the soul of 408 00:22:38,064 --> 00:22:39,044 Can you go skateboarding? 409 00:22:40,784 --> 00:22:44,654 Over the years, for example during the third hospital admission of 410 00:22:44,683 --> 00:22:48,024 I was hospitalized twice during my fourth year of life. 411 00:22:48,184 --> 00:22:51,943 23. The first time I was there, I was diagnosed with the following: 412 00:22:51,984 --> 00:22:55,144 I have bipolar disorder and have been hospitalized twice. 413 00:22:55,304 --> 00:22:59,224 28. The first time I was 28, I was in the hospital and 414 00:22:59,324 --> 00:23:03,184 One of the therapists told me that bipolar disorder type 1 is actually 415 00:23:03,224 --> 00:23:06,904 the most difficult mental illness to treat, because it 416 00:23:07,024 --> 00:23:09,644 There's absolutely nothing you can do about it. 417 00:23:09,764 --> 00:23:11,804 You know, I (exhales) like 418 00:23:12,704 --> 00:23:16,584 I rarely drank and maybe coughed once or twice – that was about 40 times in two days. 419 00:23:16,624 --> 00:23:17,064 Years. And 420 00:23:17,904 --> 00:23:21,504 Yes, I smoked weed occasionally. I mean, I was never really... 421 00:23:22,604 --> 00:23:26,224 not so fixated on it or done it so often, but more cannabis than alcohol. 422 00:23:26,264 --> 00:23:30,164 And you know, I had practically none 423 00:23:30,304 --> 00:23:34,024 Female intimacy, uh, the whole time until the last month 424 00:23:34,104 --> 00:23:37,444 Movies. I have a girlfriend, and that 425 00:23:37,524 --> 00:23:40,164 It was just before I moved back to New York. 426 00:23:40,204 --> 00:23:42,324 York. 427 00:24:05,884 --> 00:24:09,084 (Soft music) No matter how many people surrounded me 428 00:24:09,124 --> 00:24:12,344 But in my heart I lived in complete... 429 00:24:12,424 --> 00:24:16,144 Isolation. You know, my parents were... 430 00:24:16,284 --> 00:24:17,524 uh, (laughs) 431 00:24:18,684 --> 00:24:21,544 out of the picture, uh, in their own unique way. 432 00:24:21,564 --> 00:24:23,344 And that's all I'm going to say about it. 433 00:24:23,384 --> 00:24:23,864 But, um, 434 00:24:24,984 --> 00:24:28,726 That's crazy, like, uh... Yeah, 435 00:24:28,736 --> 00:24:32,216 After writing this essay, I had really worked out every detail. 436 00:24:32,556 --> 00:24:36,436 The damned blood and the pain I felt back then, and it was strange because… 437 00:24:36,496 --> 00:24:40,036 A week later I went to my therapist and said, "You know, man, I've realized..." 438 00:24:40,056 --> 00:24:40,246 The 439 00:24:41,216 --> 00:24:42,016 actually like this: 440 00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:47,556 The most painful part is that I didn't include something in the essay. 441 00:24:47,566 --> 00:24:51,276 "Because I've still repressed it." And you 442 00:24:51,316 --> 00:24:55,296 Like I said, my parents no longer played a role, and, um, 443 00:24:55,376 --> 00:24:58,596 I was just thinking... 444 00:25:00,856 --> 00:25:01,896 How, 445 00:25:03,716 --> 00:25:07,646 I was 19 and I was really scared. 446 00:25:07,696 --> 00:25:11,416 And I just thought to myself, "What if one day..." 447 00:25:11,576 --> 00:25:15,456 Just for a moment, I could have a moment where my parents 448 00:25:15,496 --> 00:25:17,056 come together and simply 449 00:25:17,916 --> 00:25:20,476 "Give me a hug at the same time?" Do you understand? 450 00:25:20,496 --> 00:25:23,116 Something like: "I need you right now." Do you understand? 451 00:25:23,156 --> 00:25:27,076 Something like: "I live with an undiagnosed bipolar disorder." 452 00:25:27,096 --> 00:25:30,976 And I am suffering, and I don't think it should be like this. 453 00:25:31,036 --> 00:25:33,775 It is a luxury to, for example, wish for a hug. 454 00:25:34,556 --> 00:25:36,976 "From both parents at the same time." Something like that, you understand? 455 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:37,426 Just like, 456 00:25:38,636 --> 00:25:39,136 just like 457 00:25:40,196 --> 00:25:43,436 "Stop, stop forgetting me, you know, for just two seconds." You 458 00:25:43,476 --> 00:25:45,976 knowledge? 459 00:25:47,216 --> 00:26:09,096 (Instrumental music plays) 460 00:26:09,116 --> 00:26:12,026 Going out and, and, and messing everything up, you 461 00:26:12,076 --> 00:26:13,156 knowledge? 462 00:26:13,236 --> 00:26:15,636 I need to call security, man. No, dude, you don't. 463 00:26:15,676 --> 00:26:17,416 I just did it again. 464 00:26:17,436 --> 00:26:18,976 Uh, that's not possible. 465 00:26:19,016 --> 00:26:22,576 Breaking things and (laughs) and, uh, 466 00:26:23,776 --> 00:26:27,216 Taking a break, you know, and skating where we're not supposed to skate, and, and, and skating 467 00:26:27,276 --> 00:26:28,616 How we're not supposed to skate. 468 00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:32,626 Finally, another such thought 469 00:26:32,976 --> 00:26:35,516 It's somehow been forgotten. I'm serious, man. 470 00:26:35,536 --> 00:26:35,796 How, 471 00:26:37,276 --> 00:26:40,216 The essay and all the revelations since then – it's as if 472 00:26:42,356 --> 00:26:45,896 At some point I got to the point where I thought, "You know, Jack," something like: 473 00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:48,896 "I wish I had a little more of that." 474 00:26:50,196 --> 00:26:53,456 “This guy”, during the filming of We Are Skateboarders. 475 00:26:53,476 --> 00:26:57,126 Honestly, yes. You know? I was fearless and 476 00:26:57,836 --> 00:27:00,046 I said that over and over again, session after session. 477 00:27:00,056 --> 00:27:03,736 It was like I thought, "Damn, man." I started to miss that. 478 00:27:03,876 --> 00:27:05,956 A version of me, for the first time in 15 years. 479 00:27:05,976 --> 00:27:07,616 And finally, always only 480 00:27:08,576 --> 00:27:12,336 When I look at a photo of myself from that time and feel only contempt or 481 00:27:12,876 --> 00:27:16,846 When people randomly approached me everywhere I went, mostly at the skate park. 482 00:27:16,856 --> 00:27:20,096 and then say something like: "Oh, oh," or: "I saw We Are Skateboarders." Or: "You did...." 483 00:27:20,136 --> 00:27:21,936 “We Are Skateboarders.” And I was like: “Yeah, yeah.” 484 00:27:23,416 --> 00:27:24,756 "Uh." And then I would simply try to 485 00:27:25,636 --> 00:27:28,836 At that moment, you metaphorically run away, you know, and 486 00:27:30,156 --> 00:27:33,426 Just totally weird. (laughs) 487 00:27:33,436 --> 00:27:37,276 You know, I'm trying to change all of this right now, all of it. 488 00:27:37,476 --> 00:27:40,696 emotional pain and so, uh, psychological 489 00:27:40,836 --> 00:27:42,556 Pain. It was quite... 490 00:27:44,276 --> 00:27:48,226 shortly after We Are Skateboarders was released and became successful, 491 00:27:48,276 --> 00:27:51,756 You know, so many prime ministers. Uh, it was sold. 492 00:27:52,556 --> 00:27:54,626 Available worldwide on DVD in excellent condition, and... 493 00:27:54,656 --> 00:27:56,576 We are here in Germany for the premiere of We Are 494 00:27:56,716 --> 00:27:58,956 Skateboarder. 495 00:27:59,656 --> 00:28:09,536 (Camera click) 496 00:28:09,616 --> 00:28:10,276 Well, Dog? 497 00:28:11,136 --> 00:28:11,596 The same. 498 00:28:11,636 --> 00:28:12,356 Yes. 499 00:28:13,596 --> 00:28:16,676 Are you filming? (?) 500 00:28:16,676 --> 00:28:20,376 The 501 00:28:20,436 --> 00:28:21,276 I was just thinking: 502 00:28:22,896 --> 00:28:26,876 You know, I've showered about four times. 503 00:28:26,916 --> 00:28:30,836 Once a week, so normally three times, and, uh, from December until 504 00:28:31,236 --> 00:28:35,016 Damn it, you know, towards the end of summer or something, and I would wear this damn thing. 505 00:28:35,616 --> 00:28:39,536 A green and white swimsuit made of mercury – and I swear, when I look at it, I feel… 506 00:28:39,596 --> 00:28:42,496 Back to the point: I wore this swimsuit for six months. 507 00:28:42,516 --> 00:28:46,275 Absolutely. Even in summer. You know? And if you 508 00:28:46,376 --> 00:28:50,176 Ask my friends from back then, they would say: "That's absolutely true." 509 00:28:50,196 --> 00:28:52,856 "He loved that swimsuit." You know? 510 00:28:52,916 --> 00:28:53,566 Also, 511 00:28:54,456 --> 00:28:58,396 Um, when I travelled to Ireland, I saw a screening of We 512 00:28:58,416 --> 00:29:01,836 Are there skateboarders in Ireland? And I filmed some too. 513 00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:05,756 for the documentary I was working on, um, it was called 514 00:29:05,856 --> 00:29:08,516 Heart Child, which followed We Are Skateboarders. 515 00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:11,636 Um, well yes, we filmed in Ireland, and 516 00:29:12,496 --> 00:29:16,396 I arrive at the airport in New York, uh, and 517 00:29:16,536 --> 00:29:20,296 I just thought: I had the worst groin rash imaginable. 518 00:29:20,376 --> 00:29:22,696 Could you have imagined that? I was burning like fire. 519 00:29:22,736 --> 00:29:26,516 So, (sighs) I called my friend who had herpes, and said something like: 520 00:29:26,536 --> 00:29:30,016 "Dude, do I have herpes?" He said, "No." I said, "Damn, yes, I do." 521 00:29:30,036 --> 00:29:33,636 Something like: "Okay." So, I arrive in Dublin, around 522 00:29:33,936 --> 00:29:37,426 It's 5:30 in the morning and it's unbearable. 523 00:29:37,456 --> 00:29:38,576 Just like, exactly like that 524 00:29:39,536 --> 00:29:41,656 I have to, I have to come up with something right now. 525 00:29:41,676 --> 00:29:44,916 I mean, I'm going to ruin the whole Ireland experience, and everything else too. 526 00:29:44,956 --> 00:29:46,816 Countries we will visit on this trip. 527 00:29:46,876 --> 00:29:49,936 And, uh, I just thought, "Well, (sighs) damn tracing." It always works. 528 00:29:49,976 --> 00:29:53,476 So I turned on the stupid tracing device, and 10 minutes later I felt fine again. 529 00:29:53,596 --> 00:29:57,536 Uh, I threw away the swimsuit, put on some trousers, and then in the end I did the following: 530 00:29:57,576 --> 00:30:01,396 Boneless on a bridge at 7:30 in the morning in 531 00:30:01,576 --> 00:30:05,316 D- in Dublin and, I could easily have gone into the... 532 00:30:05,336 --> 00:30:08,196 I went to the river, and I didn't, and rolled away with a smile on my face. 533 00:30:08,236 --> 00:30:11,076 And that's exactly it, you know? 534 00:30:11,096 --> 00:30:15,076 So, I mean... If someone 535 00:30:15,096 --> 00:30:18,696 would have approached me back then and simply said: 536 00:30:18,796 --> 00:30:21,916 Something like: "What do these words mean to you?" 537 00:30:21,926 --> 00:30:25,836 Regarding "uncertainty" and "external confirmation," I would say: 538 00:30:25,846 --> 00:30:28,286 "What the hell is this crap?" Something like: "Why, why, why would anyone need something like this?" 539 00:30:28,316 --> 00:30:28,746 You know? Something like... 540 00:30:29,716 --> 00:30:33,396 Hmm. The freedom I had back then 541 00:30:33,456 --> 00:30:33,856 felt 542 00:30:34,936 --> 00:30:38,456 It was not a liberation from my mental illness. 543 00:30:38,476 --> 00:30:42,416 It was indeed a feeling of freedom, because 544 00:30:42,495 --> 00:30:43,515 I felt so free 545 00:30:44,495 --> 00:30:48,456 For the first time in two years, I am free from the torment of my mental illness. 546 00:30:48,495 --> 00:30:51,876 For years. I really wanted to tell my therapist this story. 547 00:30:51,896 --> 00:30:54,456 I'm already counting down the minutes. 548 00:30:54,495 --> 00:30:57,976 So I told him this story, and after that I began to feel 549 00:30:58,196 --> 00:31:01,096 We think everything about We Are Skateboarders is great. 550 00:31:01,106 --> 00:31:04,416 And I don't know why, but it immediately came to mind that I wanted to listen to it, Labi. 551 00:31:04,495 --> 00:31:08,416 A Siffre song I love. (Car ride) And, you know, it's 552 00:31:08,515 --> 00:31:12,156 A truly beautiful song, and I think to myself: 553 00:31:12,196 --> 00:31:16,035 Something like: "Hm, I would really like to find that photo of myself doing that." 554 00:31:16,075 --> 00:31:19,676 "The Balancing Act Bridge in Dublin, Ireland." I know it exists; I've seen it. 555 00:31:19,956 --> 00:31:22,735 Thousands of times before. So I keep looking because I wanted to show that I 556 00:31:22,775 --> 00:31:25,775 Therapist. And I searched and searched and searched, but I couldn't find her anywhere. 557 00:31:25,815 --> 00:31:29,315 Then I thought to myself, "Ah, maybe I'll check out my best friend's old Flickr account." 558 00:31:29,356 --> 00:31:33,255 "That must be at least 15 years old. It has to be on there." Well, I couldn't find it. 559 00:31:33,295 --> 00:31:35,856 I searched and searched for it. 560 00:31:35,866 --> 00:31:37,596 I just thought, "Holy shit." 561 00:31:42,815 --> 00:31:44,015 And I found a photo of myself. 562 00:31:45,015 --> 00:31:48,305 About a quarter of the filming for We Are has been completed. 563 00:31:48,356 --> 00:31:51,585 Skateboarder, the first year I became bipolar 564 00:31:51,636 --> 00:31:54,005 disorder and 565 00:31:55,076 --> 00:31:56,916 You know, I just kept listening to the song. 566 00:31:56,936 --> 00:32:00,696 I had just gotten ready for a long car ride, so I got into my car and 567 00:32:00,995 --> 00:32:04,275 I... for some reason, I listened to this song over and over again. 568 00:32:04,315 --> 00:32:07,055 I just thought, "Oh yes, I want to look at that photo again." 569 00:32:07,076 --> 00:32:10,976 I don't know why. 570 00:32:10,985 --> 00:32:14,916 (Instrumental music plays) The lyrics are: 571 00:32:14,936 --> 00:32:18,436 Something like: "Hug me." 572 00:32:18,555 --> 00:32:18,696 Like, 573 00:32:20,136 --> 00:32:22,856 After all these years, I still love you. I need you more than ever. 574 00:32:22,876 --> 00:32:25,495 "I love you for all eternity." And I just sit there, 575 00:32:25,535 --> 00:32:29,255 I was just... 576 00:32:29,295 --> 00:32:33,076 For the first time in 15 years, you know, in the last few years 577 00:32:33,096 --> 00:32:36,795 For months I think, "I wish I had more of him." Do you understand? I really do wish that. 578 00:32:36,856 --> 00:32:40,696 So, you know, in this song lyric, like: "Take me in your arms," 579 00:32:41,676 --> 00:32:41,815 I 580 00:32:42,956 --> 00:32:46,196 For a moment I thought, "Oh, that reminds me of the time I wished my 581 00:32:46,335 --> 00:32:49,035 My parents could hug me at the same time.” You know? 582 00:32:49,136 --> 00:32:52,775 And I thought, "No, no, no, no, this has nothing to do with my damn parents, does it?" 583 00:32:52,835 --> 00:32:56,795 "Now it's about me." And I wanted to hug him. 584 00:32:56,876 --> 00:33:00,535 That, that, that We Are Skateboarders – me at 19 585 00:33:01,055 --> 00:33:04,636 I've been through all of that. For example, I looked at myself, 586 00:33:04,735 --> 00:33:05,055 like, 587 00:33:06,755 --> 00:33:07,076 Then 588 00:33:08,176 --> 00:33:10,696 Imagine you were a 36-year-old man sitting in my car! 589 00:33:11,936 --> 00:33:15,156 And I just thought, "Oh God. This is too intense. I have to get away." 590 00:33:15,196 --> 00:33:16,576 I have to go. I need to get ready for this trip. 591 00:33:16,616 --> 00:33:19,936 "I'm just going to take off." And I was like: "Ben, 592 00:33:21,275 --> 00:33:25,076 Just smoke a cigarette and sit down. It feels wonderful. 593 00:33:25,136 --> 00:33:28,835 You've waited so long for this. 594 00:33:29,055 --> 00:33:32,995 Honestly, it's one minute and 15 minutes, it's one minute and 15 minutes. 595 00:33:33,035 --> 00:33:33,596 second long 596 00:33:35,156 --> 00:33:38,976 I had listened to the song over and over again and looked at the photo. 597 00:33:39,015 --> 00:33:42,255 As I did it, I cried harder and harder each time. 598 00:33:42,356 --> 00:33:46,025 And, you know, after all that damn whining... 599 00:33:46,196 --> 00:33:49,576 He probably thought to himself, "Okay, then I'll get going now," you know? 600 00:33:49,696 --> 00:33:53,004 When I was on my way, I just thought... 601 00:33:53,055 --> 00:33:56,515 You know, I always told that to Jack, my therapist, and only to him. 602 00:33:56,596 --> 00:34:00,386 Him, that, um, about We Are Skateboarders and 603 00:34:00,436 --> 00:34:03,995 everything I've been through and, you know, living with it 604 00:34:04,055 --> 00:34:07,936 My undiagnosed bipolar disorder and how I messed everything up and all that crap 605 00:34:07,976 --> 00:34:11,536 You know, all these traumas will accompany me throughout my life. 606 00:34:11,556 --> 00:34:15,315 And I never told him, and I 607 00:34:15,375 --> 00:34:19,056 I never said to myself, like, "I'm developing bipolar disorder." 608 00:34:19,355 --> 00:34:23,176 That alone is hard enough. How can I possibly blame that? 609 00:34:23,576 --> 00:34:27,476 The "We Are Skateboarders" version of me, because I've been through what I've been through. 610 00:34:27,536 --> 00:34:28,835 through?" 611 00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:32,996 That's forgiveness, you know? Something like... 612 00:34:33,036 --> 00:34:36,866 Self-compassion. And I just thought, "I did all this on my own." 613 00:34:36,915 --> 00:34:37,915 "Unique." You know? Like: 614 00:34:38,755 --> 00:34:42,656 no parents, no psychiatrists, no therapists, and 615 00:34:42,735 --> 00:34:46,485 After my best friend moved back home, as you know, I didn't have any friends for a very long time. 616 00:34:46,536 --> 00:34:47,196 a long time. 617 00:34:48,556 --> 00:34:49,355 Exactly that type. 618 00:34:50,176 --> 00:34:53,656 I sit alone behind the CVS pharmacy in an alley and write in my diary – psychotically. 619 00:34:53,735 --> 00:34:54,616 Thoughts. And 620 00:34:55,835 --> 00:34:59,216 When I think of that guy today, all I can say is, "I'm proud of you." 621 00:34:59,256 --> 00:34:59,895 Brother." 622 00:34:59,915 --> 00:35:31,266 (Instrumental music plays) 623 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:35,125 No, I can't. Ah. I 624 00:35:35,125 --> 00:35:37,935 I wish I could make them. 625 00:35:37,956 --> 00:35:39,975 understand. 626 00:35:42,236 --> 00:35:42,435 I 627 00:35:45,475 --> 00:36:07,246 want 628 00:36:07,246 --> 00:36:19,395 To 629 00:36:20,176 --> 00:36:23,796 Help them, they 630 00:36:24,935 --> 00:36:26,356 I don't understand it. 631 00:36:26,375 --> 00:36:26,706 Ah! 632 00:36:26,706 --> 00:36:31,076 (Screw jump set) 633 00:36:40,886 --> 00:39:06,766 (Music) 53556

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