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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,012 --> 00:00:14,014 [♪ dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:30,364 [Larry Harvey speaking] 3 00:01:00,102 --> 00:01:02,145 [interviewer speaking] 4 00:01:02,187 --> 00:01:05,482 Yes, uh, we're going to take over the world. 5 00:01:05,524 --> 00:01:06,733 [interviewer] When? 6 00:01:06,775 --> 00:01:08,318 Sooner than you might think. 7 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,030 [♪ music swelling] 8 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:15,742 [wind gusting] 9 00:01:15,784 --> 00:01:17,744 [♪ ethereal music playing] 10 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:03,749 [bells jingling] 11 00:02:05,334 --> 00:02:07,169 [burner] Welcome to Burning Man! 12 00:02:08,086 --> 00:02:09,755 Oh, we got people coming. 13 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:14,718 -Welcome home. -How are you? 14 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,762 -Hello. -Oh! 15 00:02:20,849 --> 00:02:22,559 Dust angels, please. 16 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:23,727 Roll over. 17 00:02:23,769 --> 00:02:26,228 You gotta get the full package here. 18 00:02:26,271 --> 00:02:28,273 That's it. Love the dust. 19 00:02:29,441 --> 00:02:31,902 You may now ring the man's doorbell and tell him, 20 00:02:31,943 --> 00:02:33,403 "I'm here to burn!" 21 00:02:33,445 --> 00:02:34,780 Yell it out. 22 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:37,074 I'm here to burn! 23 00:02:37,115 --> 00:02:38,950 [♪ vocalization] 24 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:56,677 [Larry Harvey] Imagine that you are put upon 25 00:02:56,718 --> 00:02:57,844 a desert plane, 26 00:02:57,886 --> 00:02:59,262 a space which in itself 27 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:00,764 is so vast and blank, 28 00:03:00,764 --> 00:03:02,808 that only your initiative can make that a place. 29 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:10,107 Imagine you're surrounded by thousands of other people, 30 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:12,317 that together you form a city, 31 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:13,652 and that within this teeming city, 32 00:03:13,694 --> 00:03:15,654 there is nothing that's for sale. 33 00:03:18,573 --> 00:03:20,325 [Coyote] If you've seen an aerial shot 34 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:22,994 of Black Rock City, it's a beautiful clock shape. 35 00:03:24,496 --> 00:03:27,624 What people don't know is that it's an actual city. 36 00:03:27,624 --> 00:03:31,962 There are roads, neighborhoods, and community spaces, 37 00:03:32,003 --> 00:03:33,797 all designed to create 38 00:03:33,797 --> 00:03:36,174 spontaneous interactions between people. 39 00:03:37,008 --> 00:03:38,343 Have you ever been in a city 40 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:40,679 where you couldn't buy or sell anything? 41 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,808 When you give a gift or receive a gift from someone, 42 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:47,394 it creates an immediate moral bond with them. 43 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:52,607 That's, of course, where community begins. 44 00:03:55,527 --> 00:03:57,529 This is an inhospitable, 45 00:03:57,571 --> 00:04:01,074 natural environment that will kill you if you let it. 46 00:04:03,034 --> 00:04:04,703 [Larry] We live in a consumer society 47 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:07,330 and we're completely insulated from the realities of nature 48 00:04:07,372 --> 00:04:08,957 in our own inner needs. 49 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:12,878 There's nothing like living through a catastrophe 50 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:15,005 with other people to bond you to them. 51 00:04:15,046 --> 00:04:17,089 That's the point. We want that challenge. 52 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,011 [Steven Raspa] Why do some of the most 53 00:04:21,052 --> 00:04:23,597 talented, brightest, most creative people 54 00:04:23,638 --> 00:04:25,348 come to our temporary city 55 00:04:25,390 --> 00:04:26,767 in the middle of the desert, 56 00:04:26,808 --> 00:04:29,394 work harder than they normally do in their jobs, 57 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:31,188 give up their scarce resources, 58 00:04:31,229 --> 00:04:34,399 and call our little dusty city home? 59 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:37,360 What are they getting here 60 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:40,238 that they're not getting in our year-round cities? 61 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:49,581 [Larry] People keep saying, 62 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:51,707 "Well, what does Burning Man mean?" 63 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:53,960 -[excited squealing] -[crowd chattering happily] 64 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:56,755 Burning Man leads people up to the threshold 65 00:04:56,797 --> 00:04:58,507 of what religious experience is. 66 00:05:00,592 --> 00:05:03,345 In fact, it gives them the experience pretty largely. 67 00:05:08,767 --> 00:05:11,478 [Steven] It is a city of imagination. 68 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,566 And imagination wants to be free and abundant. 69 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:18,819 [♪ electronic music playing] 70 00:05:29,204 --> 00:05:31,122 [flames whooshing] 71 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:35,335 [Marian Goodell] And we're creating joy. 72 00:05:35,377 --> 00:05:37,170 We're bringing connection. 73 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:39,923 [fireworks popping and whistling] 74 00:05:40,757 --> 00:05:42,259 [Harley K. Dubois] In the default world, 75 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,178 people are more disconnected and lonelier than ever. 76 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:49,015 That's why people think of Black Rock City as home. 77 00:05:49,057 --> 00:05:52,978 [burner] Four, three, two, one. 78 00:05:53,019 --> 00:05:54,104 Ignition. 79 00:05:54,312 --> 00:05:55,480 [flames whooshing] 80 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:58,316 [crowd cheering] 81 00:05:58,692 --> 00:06:00,694 [cheering and applause] 82 00:06:05,657 --> 00:06:07,659 [cheering and applause fading] 83 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:27,512 [people chattering] 84 00:06:32,350 --> 00:06:34,311 [lighting equipment clicking] 85 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:37,397 [Marian] I don't think it's-- I've got enough-- Hang on. 86 00:06:38,231 --> 00:06:39,482 Can I zip it all the way up? 87 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:41,818 People were saying no. Option down or up? 88 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:43,153 [crew member 1] It looked a little uptight 89 00:06:43,194 --> 00:06:44,487 when you got it all the way up there. 90 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:45,697 [crew member 2] Yeah. Exactly. 91 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,157 -I am a little uptight. -[crew member 1] I know. 92 00:06:47,198 --> 00:06:48,825 [Dominique Debucquoy] [over PA] Hi, everyone... 93 00:06:48,867 --> 00:06:50,659 -Hello, people. -...thanks for joining us for a second time. 94 00:06:50,702 --> 00:06:52,746 We're so excited to share news 95 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:54,164 about what's going on behind the scenes 96 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:55,582 at Burning Man Project. 97 00:06:55,624 --> 00:06:57,334 Without further ado, 98 00:06:57,375 --> 00:07:00,337 I'll hand it off to our CEO, Marian Goodell. 99 00:07:00,378 --> 00:07:02,547 Hello, everybody. I'm Marian. 100 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:05,842 We are on the road to making a decision 101 00:07:05,884 --> 00:07:08,637 about whether we'll do Black Rock City 2021. 102 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:13,934 [sighs] It takes a lot of energy to do this. 103 00:07:14,559 --> 00:07:17,562 Go, no go, Burning Man. I have no fucking idea. 104 00:07:20,106 --> 00:07:21,358 [Stuart Mangrum] We've faced a number 105 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:22,400 of existential crises 106 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:23,944 over the years, 107 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:27,072 and, and the COVID pandemic has certainly been one of them. 108 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:31,868 The deadly coronavirus officially hitting the US. 109 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:35,330 [Stuart] In 2020, we didn't really have a choice. 110 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:37,957 We had to cancel. 111 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:40,585 And it was a... it was a huge letdown. 112 00:07:42,712 --> 00:07:45,423 The theme for 2021 was the great unknown 113 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,969 because we had no freaking idea if we would do Burning Man 114 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:50,512 that year or ever again. 115 00:07:52,514 --> 00:07:54,599 Honestly, you know, I'd say that feelings 116 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:56,142 were divided in the organization. 117 00:07:56,183 --> 00:07:58,061 [Dominique] [on video call] Do we want to be dealing 118 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:01,564 with people with bad COVID-19 symptoms 119 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:02,941 in the middle of nowhere? 120 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:05,276 Um, what feels successful? 121 00:08:05,318 --> 00:08:08,947 Is a successful event that nobody died from COVID? 122 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:12,575 What is the thing that we're trying to prove by doing this? 123 00:08:13,076 --> 00:08:15,662 The answer to that is to not do Black Rock City. 124 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:20,582 The reality is, we could still find ourselves in a situation 125 00:08:20,625 --> 00:08:22,002 where we don't have enough money, 126 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:23,586 and we'll have to let people go. 127 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:25,255 And if we let the people on this call right now go, 128 00:08:25,296 --> 00:08:27,340 I don't know that we can fire up the engines again. 129 00:08:27,382 --> 00:08:28,842 That's still all true. 130 00:08:29,968 --> 00:08:32,303 Here I go, first time back in the office. 131 00:08:33,221 --> 00:08:34,514 Today's an important day. 132 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:36,433 We're going to announce our decision 133 00:08:36,474 --> 00:08:38,977 about whether to do Burning Man or not this year. 134 00:08:39,936 --> 00:08:43,857 I'm done waiting and wondering and watching people be tortured 135 00:08:43,898 --> 00:08:46,151 as to whether we're doing it or we're not doing it. 136 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:48,445 Uh, we need to make a decision. There's no good decisions. 137 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:50,155 There's two bad decisions to make. 138 00:08:50,989 --> 00:08:53,491 Marian's been CEO of Burning Man since 2013, 139 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:54,868 and I've been by her side, 140 00:08:54,909 --> 00:08:56,536 running it with her, ever since. 141 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:59,706 [inaudible chatter] 142 00:08:59,748 --> 00:09:02,292 Our board is evolving into a new sort of board. 143 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:04,294 We have a fair amount of new board members, 144 00:09:04,335 --> 00:09:07,172 and we've not worked together as a team all that much, 145 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:09,841 certainly not with a crisis like this before. 146 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:13,470 [Marian] They started asking a lot of questions recently 147 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:15,013 about whether we're gonna survive. 148 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:17,807 "Are the finances okay?" "Am I doing my job?" 149 00:09:17,849 --> 00:09:20,310 "Is it gonna be safe?" "Are we doing the right thing?" 150 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:21,603 "Are we being responsible?" 151 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:24,898 It's kind of becoming pretty clear 152 00:09:24,939 --> 00:09:27,942 that it's a lift that we're not ready for. 153 00:09:28,526 --> 00:09:30,111 What if we cancel the event? 154 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:31,571 [board members chattering] 155 00:09:31,613 --> 00:09:34,574 We need Burning Man to survive the pandemic. 156 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:37,660 And a lot of people around the world feel that way. 157 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:39,204 -[board member] Hi. -[Kimbal Musk] Hey! 158 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:40,705 [laughter] 159 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:44,501 [Marian] Kimbal was a new board member. 160 00:09:44,501 --> 00:09:48,004 His brother, Elon, had made a significant donation, 161 00:09:48,046 --> 00:09:50,173 and Kimbal was representing that. 162 00:09:50,215 --> 00:09:51,591 And he's been coming to Burning Man 163 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:53,551 for over 25 years. 164 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:55,512 [Kimbal] My name's Kimbal. 165 00:09:55,553 --> 00:09:58,056 I'm very honored to be here today with you guys. 166 00:09:58,098 --> 00:09:59,641 [board member] Welcome, Kimbal. 167 00:09:59,682 --> 00:10:01,184 [Kimbal] You know, I really struggle 168 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:02,894 to describe Burning Man to people. 169 00:10:04,395 --> 00:10:06,064 But the way I like to describe it is, 170 00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:07,941 imagine the beach. 171 00:10:09,234 --> 00:10:11,152 Some people like it, some people don't. 172 00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,865 But would you ever say to someone 173 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:17,700 who has never been to the beach, 174 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:19,619 "You don't need to go see the beach"? 175 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:26,584 It is an experiment that is never-ending. 176 00:10:29,003 --> 00:10:31,214 I think it means different things to different people. 177 00:10:31,256 --> 00:10:32,340 For me, personally, 178 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:35,635 it is this amazing opportunity to... 179 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:37,887 once a year, 180 00:10:37,929 --> 00:10:39,639 burn the past 181 00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:40,974 and start again. 182 00:10:41,015 --> 00:10:42,308 [fireworks popping] 183 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:44,144 [all cheering] 184 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:48,940 It's my religion. It's my ritual. 185 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:51,025 It's my spiritual calling. 186 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:54,112 And I never miss it. 187 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:55,989 [board members chattering] 188 00:10:56,030 --> 00:10:58,449 [board member] Okay, so we're gonna, uh, turn it over here 189 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:00,034 to Marian and her team. 190 00:11:01,286 --> 00:11:05,331 It's so weird to not be in front of a laptop, okay? 191 00:11:05,373 --> 00:11:08,710 Let's just say that's where I feel weird for a moment. 192 00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:11,004 Okey-doke. 193 00:11:11,045 --> 00:11:13,256 So, the item at hand 194 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:15,633 is Black Rock City recommendation and discussion. 195 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:18,261 Um, our recommendation is that 196 00:11:18,303 --> 00:11:21,431 there be no Black Rock City of 2021, 197 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:25,435 and, um, that we aim all of our efforts 198 00:11:25,476 --> 00:11:27,437 for Black Rock City 2022. 199 00:11:27,979 --> 00:11:30,148 [board member] Kimbal, you want to share just a little? 200 00:11:30,982 --> 00:11:32,692 [Kimbal] That's just a bad idea. 201 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:37,989 People will be depressed as hell because of this announcement. 202 00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:42,702 So, be very thoughtful that this will traumatize people. 203 00:11:43,745 --> 00:11:47,040 I found it depressing 204 00:11:47,081 --> 00:11:48,708 and lacking in vision. 205 00:11:50,251 --> 00:11:52,212 There is vision, and I've been thinking about this 206 00:11:52,253 --> 00:11:53,671 -for quite some time. -[board member 1] Yeah. 207 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,006 [board member 2] Farhad? 208 00:11:55,506 --> 00:11:58,009 [Farhad Mohit] I think it's an incredibly conservative decision. 209 00:11:58,051 --> 00:12:00,136 Um, and Burning Man is not-- That's not-- 210 00:12:00,178 --> 00:12:02,055 That's not the image of Burning Man. 211 00:12:02,096 --> 00:12:05,391 We are radically self-reliant, we're civically responsible, 212 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:07,143 we are a communal effort thing. 213 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:10,063 30,000 people or more are gonna gather in the desert. 214 00:12:10,104 --> 00:12:12,649 And as long as the 10 Principles are in place, 215 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:14,859 Burning Man happens, with or without us. 216 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:18,571 It is really important that we consider staff, 217 00:12:18,613 --> 00:12:21,324 the 10,000 folks that through all of the surveys 218 00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:22,742 and all the work we're doing, 219 00:12:22,784 --> 00:12:24,661 there are 10,000 people that help run 220 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:26,329 all of the operations. 221 00:12:26,371 --> 00:12:29,040 That includes greeters, that includes lamplighters, 222 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:31,668 that includes airport, that includes Burner Express bus, 223 00:12:31,709 --> 00:12:33,419 that includes the box office. 224 00:12:33,461 --> 00:12:36,339 And I'm touching on some of the areas that when we surveyed, 225 00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:39,092 the box office was less than 20% of the people 226 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:40,176 wanted to come back. 227 00:12:40,218 --> 00:12:41,719 The airport was less than 20%. 228 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,263 And these are volunteers. 229 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:44,681 These are not paid people. 230 00:12:44,722 --> 00:12:46,557 There are gonna be 50 that-- 231 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:50,228 No, 500 competing events on Labor Day weekend. 232 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:52,772 And what we're basically saying to the world is, 233 00:12:52,814 --> 00:12:55,191 "Go try something else this weekend. 234 00:12:55,233 --> 00:12:58,027 Please, please go try something else." 235 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:59,320 That sounds crazy. 236 00:12:59,988 --> 00:13:01,739 The playa is the Vatican, 237 00:13:02,657 --> 00:13:04,242 and everything else is a church. 238 00:13:04,742 --> 00:13:07,537 I think, Marian, you're not challenging yourself. 239 00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:11,040 I think you guys are, uh, you're giving up, 240 00:13:11,082 --> 00:13:12,458 and you shouldn't be, 241 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:13,835 and I'm disappointed. 242 00:13:14,585 --> 00:13:16,587 Burning Man was never intended to be safe. 243 00:13:17,588 --> 00:13:20,258 And let's go have some fun on the playa 244 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:22,593 and let the cards fall where they may. 245 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,096 I think it'll be the best burn ever. 246 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:26,973 [Harley sighs] 247 00:13:27,015 --> 00:13:28,641 [Marian laughs] 248 00:13:28,683 --> 00:13:30,393 [Harley] The first thing I want to say, 249 00:13:30,435 --> 00:13:31,602 is it the same thing? 250 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:32,895 Is it Burning Man 251 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:35,064 if our international people can't be there? 252 00:13:35,106 --> 00:13:36,441 -Is it Burning Man? -[Kimbal] Yes, it is. 253 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:37,734 I don't think it is Burning Man. 254 00:13:37,775 --> 00:13:39,110 [overlapping chatter] 255 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:40,737 [Harley] Can I stop being interrupted? 256 00:13:40,778 --> 00:13:42,447 Can I stop being interrupted, please? 257 00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:44,073 [Kimbal] You asked a question. 258 00:13:44,115 --> 00:13:45,241 Okay, I'm not gonna-- 259 00:13:45,283 --> 00:13:46,659 If I ask another question, don't answer it. 260 00:13:46,701 --> 00:13:48,661 -[laughter] -[Kimbal] Okay. Fair enough. 261 00:13:48,703 --> 00:13:50,830 If you guys are all thinking that anarchy 262 00:13:50,872 --> 00:13:53,124 and that cool, like, renegade shit is Burning Man, 263 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:54,959 -then you're missing the boat. -Go, Harley, go! 264 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:56,753 The thing about Burning Man that's beautiful is, 265 00:13:56,794 --> 00:13:58,254 you can have that, because you have people 266 00:13:58,296 --> 00:14:00,089 who trust each other and love each other. 267 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:01,841 And without the trust, and without the love, 268 00:14:01,883 --> 00:14:03,801 and without the community, you cannot have that anarchy, 269 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:05,178 you cannot have that craziness. 270 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:06,804 And that's what this is all about. 271 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:09,932 This is my 30th year. 272 00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:12,018 I feel like I get Burning Man. I feel like I know what it is. 273 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:13,436 I'm not sure everyone else does. 274 00:14:13,478 --> 00:14:15,897 [♪ tense music playing] 275 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:18,483 The man must burn. 276 00:14:20,151 --> 00:14:22,445 The man must burn. 277 00:14:22,487 --> 00:14:26,324 I have joined this board because the man must burn. 278 00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:27,825 [Marian] It will burn. 279 00:14:28,576 --> 00:14:30,453 [♪ tense music continues] 280 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,831 [Farhad] Black Rock City doesn't just pop itself up in August. 281 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:38,169 This is a $60 million event that involves hundreds of people 282 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:40,046 who part-time or full-time, work here. 283 00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:43,549 Canceling again this year would mean zero income 284 00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:45,385 for ticket sales and massive layoffs. 285 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:48,388 [Harley] Outside of this boardroom, 286 00:14:48,429 --> 00:14:51,182 nobody knows that Burning Man is canceled. 287 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:52,683 Not even our staff. 288 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:56,979 So, can you measure that space now 289 00:14:57,021 --> 00:14:59,232 between Blue Oasis and Donkey Show? 290 00:14:59,273 --> 00:15:01,984 [staff member] Yeah, that's about 40 feet. 291 00:15:02,026 --> 00:15:03,486 [Level] I lead the team that decides 292 00:15:03,528 --> 00:15:05,321 where all the camps go. 293 00:15:05,863 --> 00:15:07,490 And, I mean, I think this is a question I have for Trigger, 294 00:15:07,532 --> 00:15:08,658 but those two are... 295 00:15:08,699 --> 00:15:11,869 We have over 1,500 camps to figure out. 296 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,914 And, you know, when you're planning a dinner party, 297 00:15:14,956 --> 00:15:16,165 when you're planning a wedding, 298 00:15:16,207 --> 00:15:18,000 like, who's gonna be able to connect 299 00:15:18,042 --> 00:15:20,336 and have good conversations, matters. 300 00:15:20,378 --> 00:15:22,839 [staff member] ...these four cars up here, 301 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,048 I think we're golden. 302 00:15:24,757 --> 00:15:28,386 [Level] Marian is gonna make an announcement on Saturday. 303 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,680 I don't know if Burning Man's gonna be canceled this year, 304 00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:32,014 so I keep doing my job. 305 00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:33,433 That works, too. 306 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:35,017 [staff member] You've got at least 10 feet there 307 00:15:35,017 --> 00:15:37,395 to get in and out, back to this area, 308 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:38,688 and this is where your fence... 309 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:40,773 [Level] I grew up in San Francisco, 310 00:15:40,815 --> 00:15:44,235 and my parents are immigrants from Burma. 311 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:46,529 Burmese culture is very conservative. 312 00:15:46,571 --> 00:15:48,406 I mean, from my experience being gay, 313 00:15:48,448 --> 00:15:51,701 and coming out, and, you know, it wasn't like, 314 00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:53,703 "Oh, great. Let's..." 315 00:15:53,744 --> 00:15:54,954 Full embrace. You know? 316 00:15:55,913 --> 00:15:58,290 I worked for the city of San Francisco for a decade, 317 00:15:58,332 --> 00:15:59,709 and they were really proud of that. 318 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:02,086 They were like, "Oh, you work for the city. Great." 319 00:16:02,128 --> 00:16:04,380 So, I do tell them that I still work for a city. 320 00:16:04,422 --> 00:16:05,715 [laughing] 321 00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,800 Uh, it's just not the city they thought it was. 322 00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:09,635 [♪ techno music playing] 323 00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:14,265 There's no better place to, like, find love 324 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:16,267 and fall in love. 325 00:16:17,268 --> 00:16:20,563 And so, what I often say now is I went for the art, 326 00:16:20,605 --> 00:16:22,607 but I go back for the people. 327 00:16:22,648 --> 00:16:25,067 I actually met my husband at Burning Man. 328 00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:26,235 [laughing] 329 00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,237 I was a little bit more nerdy, 330 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:29,906 he was a little bit more carefree. 331 00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:32,074 We were friends for years before that, 332 00:16:32,116 --> 00:16:34,785 and Burning Man just allowed us to really connect. 333 00:16:35,703 --> 00:16:38,247 I really hope Marian makes a decision soon. 334 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,790 It just feels like an elephant in the room. 335 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:40,833 [welder buzzing] 336 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,084 As of right now, 337 00:16:42,084 --> 00:16:44,420 the Burning Man community is building 338 00:16:44,462 --> 00:16:46,547 and planning for a burn this year. 339 00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:52,970 [Lindsay Handren] My name is Lindsay. 340 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:57,433 For the first 88 days of quarantine, 341 00:16:57,475 --> 00:17:01,020 I had no human contact whatsoever. 342 00:17:01,062 --> 00:17:02,188 [computer chimes] 343 00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:03,481 Hey, guys. 344 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:07,276 Welcome back to another exciting day 345 00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:09,529 of experimental psychology. 346 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:13,657 It was just me and the dog and an empty Zoom screen. 347 00:17:15,159 --> 00:17:19,997 I'm a professor of psychology, but my passion is horse riding. 348 00:17:21,665 --> 00:17:25,294 People that I meet at school or during school, 349 00:17:25,336 --> 00:17:27,296 they would never know that I ride horses 350 00:17:27,338 --> 00:17:28,381 or that I have horses. 351 00:17:30,007 --> 00:17:32,593 I compete in an equestrian sport called reining. 352 00:17:33,344 --> 00:17:35,054 It's really fun, really cool. 353 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:39,308 So, this is a lot of horse trophies 354 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:41,352 that I've won over the years. 355 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:44,230 [♪ gentle music playing] 356 00:17:44,272 --> 00:17:46,190 My mom was the one that got me into horses, 357 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:48,901 and one of her favorite things in the entire world 358 00:17:48,943 --> 00:17:50,403 was just to watch me ride. 359 00:17:52,863 --> 00:17:56,242 She passed away in 2015. 360 00:17:56,284 --> 00:18:01,330 It was six weeks from the time she was, uh, diagnosed 361 00:18:01,372 --> 00:18:02,873 until she died. [sadly chuckles] 362 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:05,501 So, pretty abrupt and unexpected. 363 00:18:05,543 --> 00:18:07,169 We were very close. 364 00:18:07,211 --> 00:18:09,380 We would talk all day, every day. 365 00:18:10,339 --> 00:18:15,219 And now I'm here in these four walls, 366 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:18,848 wishing that she could just, like, tell me what to do, 367 00:18:18,889 --> 00:18:20,433 or what decision to make. 368 00:18:20,474 --> 00:18:22,935 Like, I have so much shit to do in life... 369 00:18:22,977 --> 00:18:24,186 [sniffles] 370 00:18:24,228 --> 00:18:26,272 ...which is basically, you know, what society is. 371 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:28,190 It's like, go back to work, get this done, get this done. 372 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:30,568 Oh, you're sad? That sucks. Like, go to work, cry-- 373 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,613 You know, go cry in-- in-in the car afterwards. 374 00:18:33,654 --> 00:18:34,864 Like... [sniffles] 375 00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:37,074 You kind of always have to be on. 376 00:18:39,493 --> 00:18:42,788 When COVID first happened, it got pretty depressing. 377 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:46,542 So, during that time, I got into VR. 378 00:18:46,584 --> 00:18:48,586 [♪ soft electronic music playing] 379 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:52,715 I had just started dating someone. 380 00:18:52,757 --> 00:18:54,300 He had had VR headsets, 381 00:18:54,342 --> 00:18:57,887 so we would go and hang out, and wander. 382 00:18:57,928 --> 00:19:00,056 It's kind of like a Google Earth. 383 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:03,934 And we'd go to different locations that he had traveled. 384 00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:07,897 One of the places that he showed me was Black Rock City. 385 00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:11,734 And that's how I discovered Burning Man. 386 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:15,112 In my mind, I thought it was just people doing drugs 387 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:17,114 and having sex in the desert. 388 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,909 My perception of Burning Man totally changed. 389 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:24,413 When I discovered the burner culture and lifestyle, 390 00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:27,958 that whole community got me through the pandemic. 391 00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:30,836 I've never been to Burning Man in person. 392 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:38,302 One of the things I learned is that there's a temple, 393 00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:41,305 a place to grieve. 394 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:44,350 Being at Burning Man 395 00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:48,270 and being able to take some type of tribute or memorial 396 00:19:48,312 --> 00:19:53,859 to temple will be extremely helpful to sort of find peace 397 00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:56,320 and, and kind of let go, I guess. 398 00:19:56,362 --> 00:19:58,364 [♪ ethereal music playing] 399 00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:02,159 It's something I really need right now. 400 00:20:04,912 --> 00:20:06,789 [Harley] The Temple Burn 401 00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:09,250 is completely different than the Man Burn. 402 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:10,876 It's reverent. 403 00:20:10,918 --> 00:20:12,461 It's a spiritual moment. 404 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:15,172 And it happens every year. 405 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:18,217 [♪ ethereal music continues] 406 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:23,222 [burner] People often go to the temple 407 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:25,850 with messages to loved ones that they want to let go 408 00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:27,852 or the energy that they want to release. 409 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,523 [Harley] The temple was created 410 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:34,316 by David Best after a friend of his 411 00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:36,569 passed away unexpectedly, 412 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:40,030 and he wanted to have a place to grieve. 413 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,741 Where do we go to grieve these days? 414 00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:44,493 [David Best] If you give me 415 00:20:44,535 --> 00:20:45,870 the most painful thing in your life, 416 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,705 I'll guarantee that it won't come back. 417 00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:51,417 And how I guarantee that is, I put it in a safe place. 418 00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,171 [Larry] I wrote it in the name of my mother, 419 00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:58,215 of my father, of my-- my best friend in high school 420 00:20:58,257 --> 00:20:59,884 who was kidnapped and murdered, 421 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:02,803 along with the names of thousands of other people. 422 00:21:03,554 --> 00:21:06,557 [♪ pensive music playing] 423 00:21:08,058 --> 00:21:10,102 [Andie Grace] We build this thing to put our sadness, 424 00:21:10,144 --> 00:21:12,104 the way that other people utilize their church, 425 00:21:12,146 --> 00:21:13,981 or their community, or what have you. 426 00:21:16,901 --> 00:21:18,778 [Larry] He's created a sacred space, 427 00:21:18,819 --> 00:21:20,070 is really what he's done, 428 00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:23,741 and everyone has instinctively honored that. 429 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:27,870 [David] We use fire as a place for healing, 430 00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:30,790 not as a... a weapon. 431 00:21:30,831 --> 00:21:33,250 [fire crackling] 432 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,962 So many people struggling. 433 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:43,093 There's a need for a place for grief. 434 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:46,138 [fire crackling] 435 00:21:47,014 --> 00:21:50,017 [temple crumbling, flames whooshing] 436 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:53,521 [crowd howling] 437 00:21:56,357 --> 00:21:57,817 [bells clanging] 438 00:22:03,113 --> 00:22:07,076 Burning Man was never intended to be safe, 439 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,495 and-- and that's frankly been a part of the appeal. 440 00:22:10,204 --> 00:22:11,997 [over video call] My projection is, 441 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:15,751 everything is gonna be back to normal by the end of July. 442 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,295 Uh, it could be the best Burning Man ever. 443 00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:22,341 [Marian] There is a huge number of people out there 444 00:22:22,383 --> 00:22:24,301 that want to see Black Rock City happen. 445 00:22:25,302 --> 00:22:28,264 I'm physically and emotionally exhausted. 446 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:29,849 I'd say this is probably the hardest thing 447 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:31,308 I've had to do. 448 00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:33,811 [Harley] When Larry passed away, 449 00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:35,521 he was the chairman of the board, 450 00:22:35,563 --> 00:22:37,439 and our visionary. 451 00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:39,525 I want to introduce you all to some of the people 452 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:41,527 that helped create this community. 453 00:22:41,569 --> 00:22:43,279 [Stuart] Marian ran the communications team, 454 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,989 she helped start the regional network, 455 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:46,615 government relations and everything. 456 00:22:46,657 --> 00:22:48,826 And she was Larry's girlfriend at the time, so... 457 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:51,787 [Harley] Marian's unique skills in-- um, with money, 458 00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:55,541 and business and communication seemed like reasons 459 00:22:56,125 --> 00:22:57,877 that she would make a good CEO. 460 00:22:58,752 --> 00:23:00,963 [Farhad] She was the executive arm 461 00:23:01,005 --> 00:23:03,007 of Larry's vision, to some level. 462 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:07,011 And with the void of the spiritual leader of Burning Man, 463 00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,305 they naturally turned to Marian. 464 00:23:09,346 --> 00:23:12,683 And this wasn't necessarily her role. 465 00:23:15,352 --> 00:23:17,897 [Marian] What do I think Larry would've thought about this? 466 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:20,983 I've had a number of different conversations 467 00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:22,359 with him in my head. 468 00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:26,864 [Larry] We do our job as planners this way. 469 00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:29,491 You had to come here and you had to survive in nature. 470 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:30,659 [thunder crashing] 471 00:23:30,701 --> 00:23:32,661 And when people go through that, 472 00:23:32,661 --> 00:23:34,330 it puts them in touch with other people 473 00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:35,915 because you look and you see your neighbor, 474 00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:37,917 and you know he's experiencing the same thing. 475 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,294 [wind gusting, rain pelting] 476 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:45,215 If we can figure out how you order a society 477 00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:48,344 so that, like a Petri dish, 478 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,054 a culture will grow in it. 479 00:23:52,139 --> 00:23:53,974 And that's where we stop planning. 480 00:23:55,893 --> 00:23:57,937 [interviewer] Tell me how it began. 481 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,362 [Ronald Reagan] We're in the worst economic mess 482 00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:07,571 since the Great Depression. 483 00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:09,531 [speaker 1] Prices are going up. 484 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:11,116 I see the lines get bigger and bigger 485 00:24:11,158 --> 00:24:12,534 outside the unemployment office. 486 00:24:12,576 --> 00:24:14,036 [speaker 2] It's the land for the rich, 487 00:24:14,078 --> 00:24:15,412 and the poor can go to hell. 488 00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:18,540 [Larry] Originally, it was a small group 489 00:24:18,582 --> 00:24:20,250 in the underground culture of San Francisco. 490 00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:21,961 [John Law] Unlike now, 491 00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:23,295 it's hard to imagine, 492 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:25,714 this city was, uh, in a deep financial recession. 493 00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:28,217 All these old factories, buildings, 494 00:24:28,258 --> 00:24:30,302 largely abandoned or destroyed. 495 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:33,389 And so, artists and pranksters, it was really easy to access. 496 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:34,765 [group chattering] 497 00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:36,725 [Michael Mikel] The Cacophony Society 498 00:24:36,767 --> 00:24:38,727 was a network of free spirits, 499 00:24:38,769 --> 00:24:41,605 united in the pursuit of experiences 500 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,274 beyond the pale of mainstream society. 501 00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:46,568 [Larry] They were devoted to guerilla theater, 502 00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:48,988 appropriating public places for performances. 503 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:50,948 It's complete anarchy. "A group of urban adventurers," 504 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,241 is the way they bill themselves. 505 00:24:52,241 --> 00:24:54,326 We did ride the cable car in the nude 506 00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:55,577 on Easter Sunday morning. 507 00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:56,954 [John] What's the worst that can happen? 508 00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:58,622 Are you gonna get arrested in San Francisco? 509 00:24:58,664 --> 00:24:59,748 Probably not. 510 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:00,916 [chain saw revs] 511 00:25:00,958 --> 00:25:02,793 I'm here with my friendly weenies! 512 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,587 We would create a whole subculture about 513 00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:06,755 moving through the world 514 00:25:06,797 --> 00:25:08,632 in a way that you were not a consumer. 515 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:09,842 [audience cheering] 516 00:25:11,677 --> 00:25:14,263 In a world where every value, every transaction, 517 00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:17,099 every relationship is a commodity transaction, 518 00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:20,019 there won't really be much of anything. 519 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,147 This obsessive drive towards profit. 520 00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:24,815 [John] And making fun of corporations. 521 00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:27,526 [Tyler Durden] Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, 522 00:25:27,568 --> 00:25:30,863 working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. 523 00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:33,490 [John] Fight Club was based directly on Cacophony Society. 524 00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:36,452 And SantaCon as well. 525 00:25:36,493 --> 00:25:38,412 [indistinct chatter] 526 00:25:40,164 --> 00:25:41,957 We were good at logistics for events, 527 00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:44,501 especially outdoor, illicit, show up, do it, 528 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:46,295 get away before the cops come events. 529 00:25:46,336 --> 00:25:48,047 [sirens wailing, horns blaring] 530 00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,135 [Larry] In 1986, 531 00:25:53,177 --> 00:25:54,887 I was living in San Francisco. 532 00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:58,724 I'd had a very, very modest landscaping business. 533 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,810 And I had a friend, Jerry James, 534 00:26:01,852 --> 00:26:03,312 who was a carpenter, you know, 535 00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:04,646 and I called him one day and said, 536 00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:06,065 "Let's burn a man on the beach." 537 00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:10,194 I think he may have asked me to repeat my statement. 538 00:26:11,361 --> 00:26:12,571 [waves crashing] 539 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:14,990 It happened to be the solstice. 540 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:17,284 It seemed like a, a good time to celebrate. 541 00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:21,955 He wasn't much bigger than us. 542 00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:25,876 But, uh, when we lit him up with gasoline, 543 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:28,712 he incandesced like a sun brought down to earth. 544 00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:30,047 [fire crackling] 545 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,508 [Michael] And I heard about a bunch of people 546 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:35,844 who were gonna go to the beach and burn a wooden man. 547 00:26:35,886 --> 00:26:37,888 And I said, "This sounds very interesting." 548 00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,100 [Larry] The moment it was lit, 549 00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:43,602 everybody on that beach came running. 550 00:26:44,228 --> 00:26:48,023 What we had instantly created was a community. 551 00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:50,192 [people chattering and laughing] 552 00:26:50,234 --> 00:26:52,945 It was a kind of Dada event 553 00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:56,532 of construction and destruction. 554 00:26:56,573 --> 00:26:57,741 [flames whooshing] 555 00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:00,869 [John] Larry's brilliance was seeing 556 00:27:00,911 --> 00:27:02,121 that light bulb moment, 557 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,706 watching everybody's faces in cultic fervor. 558 00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:06,875 This hugely powerful symbolic connection 559 00:27:06,917 --> 00:27:07,960 to their psyche. 560 00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:09,044 It's very powerful. 561 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:12,381 [Larry] It was our response to the fire 562 00:27:12,422 --> 00:27:15,300 that made it significant, that invested it with meaning. 563 00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:18,262 [indistinct chatter and howling] 564 00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:22,641 We were so impressed, we decided that we'd come back 565 00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:23,976 and do it again. 566 00:27:24,017 --> 00:27:25,853 [burner] Everybody get together! 567 00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:29,398 [group singing] ♪ We are stronger ♪ 568 00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,108 ♪ Than before ♪ 569 00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:34,236 [Michael] In 1990, we showed up on Baker Beach 570 00:27:34,278 --> 00:27:36,405 with about 900 people, 571 00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:38,949 and this four-story wooden man. 572 00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:41,577 This is Larry down at the beach. Can you hear me? 573 00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:45,164 John, Michael and I carried the project on our shoulders. 574 00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:47,666 [John] Me and Cacophony, we were event organizers. 575 00:27:47,708 --> 00:27:49,251 And that was the conjoining of the two groups. 576 00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:50,419 That was a group effort. 577 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:51,753 Slow! Slow! 578 00:27:51,795 --> 00:27:54,131 [Michael] And the police came, and they said, 579 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,091 "Where's your permit? You don't have a permit." 580 00:27:56,133 --> 00:27:57,926 We didn't have a permit. We were outlaws. 581 00:27:57,968 --> 00:28:00,095 [sheriff] The most liberal city within the United States, 582 00:28:00,137 --> 00:28:01,597 being San Francisco says, 583 00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:02,681 "That's too crazy for us. 584 00:28:02,723 --> 00:28:04,141 You can't do that here anymore." 585 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,143 [Michael] It's an art project. It's responsible people. 586 00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:09,438 Well, we would be willing to put it out without any kind of fuss. 587 00:28:09,479 --> 00:28:10,939 [Michael] Larry Harvey made a deal with them. 588 00:28:10,939 --> 00:28:13,859 He said, "Okay, let us have a party around the man, 589 00:28:13,901 --> 00:28:14,943 but we won't burn him." 590 00:28:14,985 --> 00:28:17,029 [indistinct chatter and cheering] 591 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:19,948 [burner] Thank you, we appreciate it. 592 00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:23,493 [Michael] We did not burn the man on Baker Beach in 1990. 593 00:28:25,829 --> 00:28:27,039 [group chattering] 594 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,167 So, a few weeks later, 595 00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:32,377 Larry Harvey, John Law and myself, 596 00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:34,796 we decided to take the Burning Man 597 00:28:34,838 --> 00:28:37,507 to the Black Rock Desert in Nevada. 598 00:28:40,177 --> 00:28:41,970 [John] I love that place. I mean, you don't understand. 599 00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:43,972 I fucking love that place. It's awesome. 600 00:28:44,014 --> 00:28:46,183 [♪ dramatic music playing] 601 00:28:46,892 --> 00:28:49,061 It was really a fantasy tableau that you could, 602 00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:52,314 as an architect in your own mind, create. 603 00:28:52,356 --> 00:28:54,983 It was a blank slate. You could imagine anything. 604 00:28:55,025 --> 00:28:57,152 [Michael] And I took a stick, 605 00:28:57,194 --> 00:28:59,363 and I drew a line on the ground. 606 00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:02,658 And I said, "On the other side of this line, 607 00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,243 everything will be different." 608 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:08,330 [Larry] This was a great piece of nothing 609 00:29:08,372 --> 00:29:12,042 in which anything that was was more intensely so. 610 00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:17,005 With a few prompts, 611 00:29:17,047 --> 00:29:18,924 you could invent a whole world around yourself, 612 00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:20,425 and there was nothing to contradict it. 613 00:29:21,134 --> 00:29:22,886 [wind gusting] 614 00:29:24,972 --> 00:29:28,016 [♪ ethereal music playing] 615 00:29:28,558 --> 00:29:30,060 [John] We were great friends 616 00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:31,937 in the middle of the most surreal place you could imagine 617 00:29:31,979 --> 00:29:33,272 with absolutely nothing around us, 618 00:29:33,313 --> 00:29:34,398 and no people anywhere. 619 00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:35,691 It was fabulous. 620 00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:37,776 [crowd cheering] 621 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:43,240 [♪ percussive music playing] 622 00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:45,575 [burner] Release your fear! 623 00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:48,912 Come and be free just for, even for a short period of time 624 00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:50,539 before we go back to our real lives. 625 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:52,582 [people reveling] 626 00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:55,627 [♪ discordant music playing] 627 00:29:58,338 --> 00:29:59,965 [fire crackling] 628 00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:03,802 [burner] There he goes! 629 00:30:03,844 --> 00:30:05,012 [all cheering] 630 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:16,148 [Tiffany Christian] Ray, let's take a look 631 00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:18,859 and figure out what else we need to get to get ready. 632 00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:21,111 Okay. 633 00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:23,780 The first time I told my wife I was going to Burning Man, 634 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,449 I think she asked me what it was. 635 00:30:26,116 --> 00:30:28,410 Then I think she looked it up, read about it. 636 00:30:28,452 --> 00:30:30,412 "Burn life." That sounds interesting. 637 00:30:30,454 --> 00:30:33,332 Ray probably has always had a bucket list. 638 00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:35,417 It used to be running of the bulls. 639 00:30:36,126 --> 00:30:37,919 That was the thing. He wanted to run the bulls. 640 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:40,756 Well, I vetoed that one because I did some research, 641 00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:42,924 and found out life insurance does not pay 642 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:44,885 if you die while you're the running bulls. 643 00:30:46,386 --> 00:30:48,597 Maybe we should just google "Burning Man packing list." 644 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:49,765 [Ray Christian] Come on, man. 645 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:52,142 What? Well, you can't run out to Walmart, 646 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:54,102 you gotta make sure you got everything. 647 00:30:54,144 --> 00:30:55,854 Go back up there, at the top. 648 00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:57,189 -[Tiffany] Moisturizer. -[Ray] Mm-hmm. 649 00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:58,940 [Tiffany] Porta Potty-safe toilet paper. 650 00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:00,609 -See, that's something. -[Ray] Mm-hmm, okay. 651 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:03,445 Birth control, condoms. 652 00:31:03,487 --> 00:31:04,821 You better not need no birth control. 653 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:05,864 Back-- Back up. 654 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:07,282 So, okay. 655 00:31:07,324 --> 00:31:08,533 We gotta think about clothes 656 00:31:08,575 --> 00:31:09,868 and how many clothes you want to take. 657 00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:12,788 Are you gonna be primitive and basic? 658 00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:14,039 Or are you gonna be extravagant? 659 00:31:14,081 --> 00:31:15,290 I don't know. 660 00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:16,708 I might have a tutu, 661 00:31:16,750 --> 00:31:18,210 'cause people are supposed to. 662 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:19,544 [Tiffany] You're supposed to have a tutu? 663 00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:20,837 Yeah, I think we gotta get a tutu. 664 00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,464 Man, I saw a cute one in Target the other day. 665 00:31:22,506 --> 00:31:23,799 I didn't know you needed one. 666 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,635 No, it doesn't have to be really cute. We don't-- 667 00:31:26,676 --> 00:31:28,970 Reina! Raylan! Come here for a minute. 668 00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:30,305 [Raylan] Yeah? 669 00:31:30,347 --> 00:31:31,932 [footsteps approaching] 670 00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:34,851 Reina, sit here. Raylan, here. 671 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,019 Okay. 672 00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:37,396 So y'all heard Daddy talk about 673 00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:38,730 this Burning Man thing, right? 674 00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:40,315 -Mm-hmm. -Y'all know what it is? 675 00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:42,025 -[Reina] No. -[Raylan] Not really. 676 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:44,027 [Tiffany] They build this big city 677 00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:45,695 in the middle of the desert, 678 00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,824 and people hang out there for a week, pretty much. 679 00:31:48,824 --> 00:31:51,159 So, they, like-- There's no money exchanged. 680 00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:53,912 It's like bartering, or just giving. 681 00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:56,706 Decommodification. 682 00:31:57,874 --> 00:32:00,043 So, it's like extreme Christmas. 683 00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:01,336 Extreme-- [laughing] 684 00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,046 -Okay. -[Reina] It sounds weird. 685 00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:04,506 -It sounds weird? -Yeah. 686 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:06,383 A good kind of weird, or a bad kind of weird? 687 00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,176 -A weird kind of weird. -[laughs] 688 00:32:08,218 --> 00:32:09,928 -What about you? -It's weird to think 689 00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:12,013 that Fa is going to something like this. 690 00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:13,181 Why? 691 00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:15,934 Well, 'cause, like, he's old. 692 00:32:15,976 --> 00:32:17,853 -Dude. -[laughing] 693 00:32:17,894 --> 00:32:19,938 [♪ gentle music playing] 694 00:32:20,564 --> 00:32:23,859 [Ray] I am a retired combat veteran. 695 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,402 And I was a paratrooper. 696 00:32:26,903 --> 00:32:28,864 You know, I'm the only Black person who lives out here. 697 00:32:28,905 --> 00:32:30,073 Only Black family. 698 00:32:30,991 --> 00:32:32,826 We've been out here for 18 years. 699 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,706 I'm surrounded by the most conservative, 700 00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:41,418 bigoted, racist, homophobic... 701 00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:44,921 And that's what I deal with on a daily basis. 702 00:32:48,091 --> 00:32:49,885 I grew up in a ghetto. 703 00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:53,054 I went from zero to barely graduating high school, 704 00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:55,974 and going my whole working adult life 705 00:32:56,016 --> 00:32:58,602 as a blue-collar infantry paratrooper, 706 00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:02,481 to three graduate degrees, later on a Fulbright Fellow. 707 00:33:04,441 --> 00:33:07,903 The challenge for me is-- is mostly psychological. 708 00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,822 I mean, after you've served in combat... 709 00:33:12,282 --> 00:33:13,950 those moments come up. 710 00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:15,869 I've got to face it. 711 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:20,665 I need something that really shakes things up at this point. 712 00:33:20,707 --> 00:33:22,626 [♪ contemplative music playing] 713 00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:32,469 [Level] You know, the Burning Man Organization 714 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:34,596 doesn't actually put on Burning Man. 715 00:33:35,388 --> 00:33:37,516 Everything is created by the participants. 716 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:42,354 [Larry] We started a thing called a theme camp. 717 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:46,483 We got-- Our whole city is organized around theme camps, 718 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:49,778 20, 30, 100, 200 people working together 719 00:33:49,819 --> 00:33:52,614 to produce some kind of gift made through art 720 00:33:52,656 --> 00:33:55,075 that they offer to a civic society. 721 00:33:55,909 --> 00:34:00,121 [Rosie von Lila] There are camps that offer everything, 722 00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:04,292 and all of it is given as part of their gift to the city. 723 00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:06,002 [faint chatter] 724 00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:10,172 [♪ distant music playing] 725 00:34:12,007 --> 00:34:14,219 This place is built by all of us. 726 00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,804 Every person who comes here contributes something. 727 00:34:16,846 --> 00:34:18,806 And so, it's easy to start to have 728 00:34:18,848 --> 00:34:21,810 this strong sense of ownership 729 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,353 of what Burning Man is. 730 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:24,688 [♪ operatic singing] 731 00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:28,817 [cheering and applause] 732 00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:30,819 [♪ singing sustained note] 733 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,362 [crowd cheering] 734 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,532 [Marisa Lenhart] I'm Marisa Lenhart. 735 00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:38,702 I have been going to Burning Man since 1999, 736 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:40,245 and I manage Thunderdome. 737 00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:44,373 My friends ran a nightclub in San Francisco 738 00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,083 called Death Guild, a goth industrial nightclub, 739 00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:51,047 and they went to bring non-rave music, 740 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:53,174 non-techno music to Burning Man. 741 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:56,219 [♪ heavy metal music playing] 742 00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:58,763 When Thunderdome came in '99, 743 00:34:58,805 --> 00:35:00,432 it was the biggest dome that had ever been built. 744 00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:03,184 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen! 745 00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:04,394 [crowd cheering] 746 00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:06,938 [Level] When people think of Burning Man iconography, 747 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:09,107 they think "Mad Max" and they think "Thunderdome." 748 00:35:09,149 --> 00:35:10,442 I think they just hold a lot of weight. 749 00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:12,902 [crowd] [chanting] Two men enter, one man leaves! 750 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,238 Two men enter, one man leaves! 751 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,615 [Marisa] What happens at the Thunderdome? 752 00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:18,408 Consensual violence happens at the Thunderdome. 753 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,162 [♪ "Your Filth Your Hate" by Deadmen playing] 754 00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:24,914 [crowd cheering] 755 00:35:25,415 --> 00:35:28,418 [Marisa] We let people battle people that they know. 756 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,463 We will have people who think that they're enemies. 757 00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:32,964 They're actually angry with each other. 758 00:35:33,006 --> 00:35:36,426 And there is nobody who leaves that experience, 759 00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:39,262 and doesn't hug, and isn't closer than they were before. 760 00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:40,597 It's incredible. 761 00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:46,144 After Burning Man put out their survey to gauge participation, 762 00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:48,396 Thunderdome wrote a statement to explain our decision 763 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:49,731 not to attend the event this year, 764 00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:51,316 whether or not it happens. 765 00:35:52,442 --> 00:35:54,444 "Death Guild Thunderdome will not be attending 766 00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:57,072 "Burning Man at Black Rock City this year. 767 00:35:57,113 --> 00:35:59,407 "We wanted to make this crew statement prior to 768 00:35:59,449 --> 00:36:01,076 "and not as a reaction to 769 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,912 "any decision or announcement from Burning Man Project. 770 00:36:03,953 --> 00:36:05,580 "Risking lives and participating 771 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:08,667 "in a non-essential event that is already lacking in diversity 772 00:36:08,708 --> 00:36:10,418 "is unacceptable to us. 773 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,922 "Black Rock City 2021, if it happens, 774 00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:16,508 risks being the whitest, richest event ever." 775 00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:19,094 -Oh, my God. -[Marisa] "And we can't in good conscience participate." 776 00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:20,679 Okay. [sniffles] 777 00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:24,265 I don't even want to talk about Thunderdome. 778 00:36:24,307 --> 00:36:25,934 Bunch of pussies. 779 00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:28,269 I'm personal friends with her, or I was. 780 00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:31,189 I kind of would like to have been given a heads-up. 781 00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:34,693 I'm getting all these text messages from friends. 782 00:36:34,734 --> 00:36:36,403 "Can you tell me where you're at?" 783 00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:38,321 There are definitely some risks, 784 00:36:38,363 --> 00:36:40,824 um, in not doing the event, for sure. 785 00:36:40,865 --> 00:36:43,493 Um, one risk, for sure, 786 00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:46,621 is that people would show up on the playa anyway, 787 00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:50,291 and that could be serious stuff, like people with guns, 788 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,502 driving too fast, that aren't even burners, 789 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:54,129 that wanna come out and party 790 00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:56,005 in the Black Rock desert for Labor Day weekend, 791 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,799 and they haven't been able to do it for 25 years. 792 00:36:57,841 --> 00:36:59,008 Like, that's a real part of it. 793 00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:04,848 If things go sideways while people have shown up out there, 794 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,642 um, the more we're gonna have to mop it up 795 00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:10,353 to make it to 2022, absolutely. 796 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:15,859 [Marnee Benson] Since 1990, 797 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:19,696 we have gotten a permit from the Bureau of Land Management. 798 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:22,198 And that relationship has had ups and downs. 799 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,285 But this is a typical thing that the BLM does for its safety? 800 00:37:25,785 --> 00:37:27,912 -No. It's not typical. -[Marian] No? Is it-- But-- 801 00:37:27,954 --> 00:37:30,039 This is a-- not a typical event. 802 00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:31,750 -[Marian] No, no, no, no. -[people chuckling] 803 00:37:31,791 --> 00:37:33,877 We pay them a permit fee every year. 804 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:38,173 Um, in 2019, our fees I think totaled, uh... 805 00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:39,716 $4.5 million. 806 00:37:45,305 --> 00:37:46,848 They keep taking so much money that we can't put it 807 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:48,892 to the sorts of things we'd like to put it to. 808 00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,685 We're just paying them, essentially. 809 00:37:50,727 --> 00:37:52,187 Now, we're at the point where we-- 810 00:37:52,228 --> 00:37:53,354 we deal with Washington, D.C., 811 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:56,107 and we have expensive lobbyists. 812 00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:00,278 [Grover Norquist] A gentleman told me 813 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,572 that the federal government was messing with Burning Man, 814 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:04,532 and that Larry Harvey and Marian, 815 00:38:04,574 --> 00:38:07,035 um, were coming to D.C. 816 00:38:07,076 --> 00:38:09,037 to try and see if there's-- they could get any support 817 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,371 for being left alone. 818 00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,415 And I said, "Well, I'm familiar with Burning Man, 819 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,709 haven't been, but I would be delighted to be helpful." 820 00:38:14,751 --> 00:38:16,795 And they said, "You know, you guys ought to come out 821 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:18,379 to Burning Man at some point." 822 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:20,548 And I said, "I've always been interested in it, 823 00:38:20,590 --> 00:38:24,427 since I started hearing about it, and, uh, we'll come." 824 00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:28,389 I think shaking hands is a perfectly acceptable way 825 00:38:28,431 --> 00:38:29,557 of greeting people, 826 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,559 and hugging people you've never met before 827 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:32,977 is a little different. 828 00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:34,479 It was great fun. 829 00:38:34,521 --> 00:38:36,981 Just a wonderful collection of people. 830 00:38:37,023 --> 00:38:38,149 And, it was-- 831 00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:39,400 I just decided at the time, I'm-- 832 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:40,777 I'm coming back regularly. 833 00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:43,738 Grover Norquist next on two topics: 834 00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:45,323 the middle-class squeeze 835 00:38:45,365 --> 00:38:48,076 and also for Grover, the Burning Man. 836 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:50,578 I wanted to finish off, though, by asking you, 837 00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:51,830 you just got back from Burning Man. 838 00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:53,122 Can you just tell me about-- a bit about that? 839 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,166 Did you think that the anti-tax message 840 00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:56,501 went over better with people 841 00:38:56,543 --> 00:38:58,253 who were tripping on magic-- magic mushrooms? 842 00:38:58,294 --> 00:38:59,921 -I think it helps, yeah. -[laughs] 843 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:01,256 [Marian] The stereotype for Burning Man 844 00:39:01,297 --> 00:39:03,132 is definitely that it's very liberal, 845 00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:05,593 but I think when you scratch the surface 846 00:39:05,635 --> 00:39:07,345 and depending on who you talk to, 847 00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:09,514 it can be seen as fairly libertarian. 848 00:39:09,556 --> 00:39:13,101 Nobody expects Grover Norquist to be here. 849 00:39:13,142 --> 00:39:14,310 But he is here. 850 00:39:14,811 --> 00:39:16,771 He's well-read, like Larry, 851 00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:19,190 talking about Victorian literature 852 00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:20,441 and magic, 853 00:39:20,483 --> 00:39:22,777 and the two of them couldn't stop talking. 854 00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:25,864 And all of it was about creativity and free thinking. 855 00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:28,116 [Grover] I don't know how many people have come up to me, 856 00:39:28,157 --> 00:39:29,951 "You and I are the only Republicans here." 857 00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:31,494 I said, "Yes, you're the 14th person 858 00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:32,745 who's said that today." [laughing] 859 00:39:36,082 --> 00:39:38,293 We still don't know whether Burning Man is on this year, 860 00:39:38,334 --> 00:39:40,336 but here's what I usually bring. 861 00:39:42,005 --> 00:39:44,841 Very nicely made cigars, Cuban tobacco, 862 00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:46,467 made in the United States. 863 00:39:46,509 --> 00:39:48,970 Um, and people love those as gifts. 864 00:39:49,012 --> 00:39:50,805 People put a lot of time and effort 865 00:39:50,847 --> 00:39:52,515 into some of the, um, 866 00:39:53,683 --> 00:39:55,852 Burning Man jewelry that they have. 867 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:58,062 And I have-- This is kinda my collection of stuff 868 00:39:58,104 --> 00:39:59,814 that I, I got there. 869 00:39:59,856 --> 00:40:01,649 And I hold on to it to keep in mind 870 00:40:01,691 --> 00:40:04,903 if I could ever do something half as cool. 871 00:40:06,446 --> 00:40:09,490 "Radical inclusion does not include Trump enablers." 872 00:40:09,532 --> 00:40:10,825 Somebody had those. 873 00:40:10,867 --> 00:40:14,203 Um, it's kind of contradictory, but, uh... 874 00:40:15,038 --> 00:40:17,665 [♪ ethereal music playing] 875 00:40:17,707 --> 00:40:19,334 The first year I was there, 876 00:40:19,334 --> 00:40:23,421 um, I stood next to, uh, Larry when it burned. 877 00:40:23,463 --> 00:40:25,214 [fire crackling] 878 00:40:26,049 --> 00:40:27,884 [crowd cheering faintly] 879 00:40:29,218 --> 00:40:32,055 I trust that Marian is going to make the right decision. 880 00:40:34,807 --> 00:40:38,227 People are doing a great deal of work just to get to Burning Man. 881 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,860 [engine rumbling] 882 00:40:45,902 --> 00:40:48,029 [Pablo González Vargas] The beauty of an art car, 883 00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:50,740 or as a mobile stage, is that it's, it's fleeting. 884 00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:55,787 Just the fact that you have the freedom to go anywhere 885 00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:57,705 and make it happen, 886 00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,916 there's something very beautiful about it. 887 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,292 You know, something very fulfilling 888 00:41:01,334 --> 00:41:03,252 that you cannot get anywhere else. 889 00:41:05,004 --> 00:41:08,091 I grew up in Mexico City, and I became an entrepreneur. 890 00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:11,219 I came to Burning Man for the first time in 2012, 891 00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:13,972 and I was really impressed by the creativity, 892 00:41:14,013 --> 00:41:19,602 in how, like, there is nothing to stop any idea of emerging. 893 00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,230 I came back to Mexico from Burning Man, and I said, 894 00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:24,732 "You know what? I want to make one of these cool, 895 00:41:24,774 --> 00:41:28,069 self-sustained, like, stages that you see at Burning Man." 896 00:41:28,111 --> 00:41:32,448 The first year that we brought the car was 2012, 897 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,743 and I think, uh, that the beauty about Burning Man is, 898 00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:38,496 you meet so many people that want to just collaborate. 899 00:41:38,538 --> 00:41:39,914 And since that year, 900 00:41:39,914 --> 00:41:42,291 you know, we had like lots of photographers, 901 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:45,461 engineers, architects, all wanting to contribute. 902 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:50,758 So this is just a sum of a lot of people's work, 903 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,135 right? [laughs] 904 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:54,637 [film projector whirring] 905 00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:57,306 [Chef Juke] In the early days of Burning Man, 906 00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:00,101 there were people who came out to Burning Man, 907 00:42:00,143 --> 00:42:02,603 who, for whatever personal reason they had, 908 00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:07,066 had decided to make their cars into pieces of art. 909 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,610 And it really inspired a lot of people 910 00:42:09,652 --> 00:42:13,781 to think of their vehicles as a, um, 911 00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:15,700 a canvas for their personal expression. 912 00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:17,869 And then the second wave, 913 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,371 you started seeing people do bigger things. 914 00:42:20,413 --> 00:42:22,790 And some of the vehicles became well known, 915 00:42:22,832 --> 00:42:25,251 not so much for their art, 916 00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:27,670 but for their music. 917 00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:31,674 [♪ "Our Broken Mind Embassy" by Jan Blomqvist playing] 918 00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:34,927 There's Robot Heart, that has a big following. 919 00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:39,390 There's Mayan Warrior, 920 00:42:39,432 --> 00:42:40,933 a really impressive vehicle 921 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,561 that also has an incredible light laser show. 922 00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:46,314 I've seen ones that, 923 00:42:46,355 --> 00:42:48,316 more than a million dollars went into them. 924 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,069 And ones that probably took maybe 925 00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:52,779 a few hundred dollars to put together. 926 00:42:53,654 --> 00:42:55,364 [Pablo] Another way to look at Burning Man 927 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:56,699 is a giant sandbox, 928 00:42:57,241 --> 00:42:59,702 and everybody brings toys to play. 929 00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:02,997 There's something very beautiful, 930 00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:04,373 something very fulfilling, 931 00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:06,375 that you cannot get anywhere else. 932 00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,837 ♪ Our broken mind embassy ♪ 933 00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:12,340 [Pablo] I think it's one of the most irresponsible things 934 00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:14,217 I've done in my life, financially. 935 00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:17,095 But one of the cores of Burning Man 936 00:43:17,136 --> 00:43:18,638 is the gifting economy. 937 00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,140 We do this as a gift. 938 00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:24,268 -[crowd cheering] -[fireworks popping] 939 00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:25,895 [wind blowing] 940 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:33,111 [power tools whirring] 941 00:43:35,947 --> 00:43:37,406 [Quill Hyde] We work hard all year 942 00:43:37,448 --> 00:43:39,200 to get our art car ready for Burning Man, 943 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,621 but we still don't know whether it's going to happen or not. 944 00:43:43,663 --> 00:43:46,249 [Michelle Li Murphy] Acavallo was Quill's life's work. 945 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:50,086 [♪ lively music playing] 946 00:43:51,087 --> 00:43:53,047 It's shaped somewhat like a boat. 947 00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:57,051 Started out as six life-sized steel horses 948 00:43:57,093 --> 00:44:00,221 that go up and down and shoots fire out of the top. 949 00:44:00,263 --> 00:44:01,973 [flames whooshing] 950 00:44:03,266 --> 00:44:05,393 It's a big bouncing jungle gym 951 00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:08,479 for adults to be sexy and play. 952 00:44:08,521 --> 00:44:10,731 [♪ lively music continues] 953 00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:14,068 The whole thing is built by hand from scratch, 954 00:44:14,110 --> 00:44:17,780 made from dreams and sacrifice. 955 00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:19,657 [crowd cheering] 956 00:44:23,327 --> 00:44:25,955 Quill Hyde and I first met when we were teenagers. 957 00:44:26,664 --> 00:44:28,082 We were pretty isolated. 958 00:44:28,124 --> 00:44:30,751 Just two hippie kids trying to make it in New York. 959 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:34,088 [Quill] After graduating from Columbia Engineering, 960 00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:38,050 and working in theatrical automation for 10 years, 961 00:44:39,051 --> 00:44:41,971 I was looking for something life-changing and different. 962 00:44:42,722 --> 00:44:43,806 A spark. 963 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,435 [Michelle] The first year I went to Burning Man, 964 00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,938 there were these kids who had like a chair 965 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:54,317 on the back of a giraffe with a ghillie suit, 966 00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:55,443 and there were computers-- 967 00:44:55,484 --> 00:44:56,944 and, uh, it was very like... [babbles] 968 00:44:56,986 --> 00:45:00,448 And I thought, "Quill has to come to this thing," 969 00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:03,326 'cause he was doing automation for Broadway shows in New York. 970 00:45:03,367 --> 00:45:05,036 Things popping up and out of stages. 971 00:45:05,077 --> 00:45:07,288 And it was a perfect marriage for his engineering 972 00:45:07,330 --> 00:45:08,456 and his art brain. 973 00:45:08,497 --> 00:45:09,624 [motor starting] 974 00:45:09,665 --> 00:45:11,209 That's what Quill needed. 975 00:45:12,501 --> 00:45:13,502 Art spark. 976 00:45:13,544 --> 00:45:15,004 [metal clanging] 977 00:45:15,922 --> 00:45:17,798 [Quill] I was looking for something else, 978 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,717 and I found it at Burning Man. 979 00:45:19,759 --> 00:45:21,510 It takes tools to make stuff. 980 00:45:21,552 --> 00:45:23,137 And dogs. 981 00:45:23,179 --> 00:45:26,182 [Michelle] But he also had that, like, "win mentality," 982 00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:30,144 so he decided to "win" Burning Man. 983 00:45:30,144 --> 00:45:31,687 [Quill] That's what it takes to make stuff. 984 00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:34,815 [Michelle] Quill decides to build the biggest art car 985 00:45:34,857 --> 00:45:36,150 on the playa. 986 00:45:36,859 --> 00:45:39,070 [Quill] I just wanted to share... 987 00:45:39,111 --> 00:45:41,155 [clearing throat] ...an art car idea. 988 00:45:41,197 --> 00:45:43,991 [Michelle] The carousel popped out of his mind. 989 00:45:44,033 --> 00:45:46,702 [♪ "Mirrorball" by Scanners playing] 990 00:45:48,204 --> 00:45:49,705 [Quill] That's a horse. 991 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:52,625 [♪ "Mirrorball" continues playing] 992 00:45:53,626 --> 00:45:55,086 -[machinery humming] -Look at that. 993 00:45:56,921 --> 00:45:58,839 -Easy, man. -[motor rumbling] 994 00:45:59,382 --> 00:46:02,802 [Quill] That desire to create art for Burning Man, 995 00:46:03,469 --> 00:46:06,222 I had to restructure my whole life to make that possible. 996 00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:09,725 And that included the move back to my hometown in Washington. 997 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:12,853 We were able to, like, have the space to work on art 998 00:46:12,895 --> 00:46:14,855 that we could never find in New York. 999 00:46:14,897 --> 00:46:15,898 [metal clanging] 1000 00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:17,900 [Michelle] I pursued my career 1001 00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:19,068 in silk painting. 1002 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:22,905 I've worn my dresses at Burning Man, 1003 00:46:23,656 --> 00:46:25,741 I've outfitted camps. 1004 00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:27,743 I make scarves for people. 1005 00:46:28,577 --> 00:46:30,705 This is not just a playground for artists. 1006 00:46:30,746 --> 00:46:32,123 It's our life support system, 1007 00:46:32,164 --> 00:46:34,875 and we've been waiting for two years to return. 1008 00:46:35,459 --> 00:46:37,461 [Quill] This is what I love to do. 1009 00:46:37,503 --> 00:46:40,756 Prioritizing the art over everything else. 1010 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:43,718 [Michelle] The org is supposed to make an announcement 1011 00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:44,885 any day now, 1012 00:46:44,927 --> 00:46:47,221 and, um, I really hope it happens. 1013 00:46:47,263 --> 00:46:48,389 Fingers crossed. 1014 00:46:48,431 --> 00:46:52,435 [♪ electronic pop music playing] 1015 00:46:57,106 --> 00:46:58,399 [Marian] I'd say this is probably 1016 00:46:58,441 --> 00:47:00,276 the hardest thing I've had to do. 1017 00:47:02,111 --> 00:47:03,904 The grief that's gonna get compounded 1018 00:47:03,946 --> 00:47:06,574 on all the excitement that people have had 1019 00:47:06,615 --> 00:47:08,409 in looking forward to Black Rock City. 1020 00:47:08,451 --> 00:47:10,786 There'll be like grief, upon grief, upon grief. 1021 00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,958 [people chattering] 1022 00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:19,587 [Level] I think this is the first time we're meeting in person. 1023 00:47:19,628 --> 00:47:21,088 [staff member] Did you get any shots yet? 1024 00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:22,631 -[Level] I got two. -[staff member] Are you clear? 1025 00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:24,467 [Level] I have one more week before I'm clear. 1026 00:47:24,508 --> 00:47:27,136 [chuckling] So you can stand as far away as you need to. 1027 00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:28,971 [indistinct chatter] 1028 00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:30,765 [Harley] Later today, Marian will announce 1029 00:47:30,806 --> 00:47:32,391 whether Black Rock City is happening. 1030 00:47:34,393 --> 00:47:37,188 Not being able to tell the staff is really torture. 1031 00:47:39,565 --> 00:47:41,400 It's very difficult to sit and wait. 1032 00:47:42,026 --> 00:47:44,070 [chattering continues] 1033 00:47:45,112 --> 00:47:46,739 [Zoe Nightingale] Apparently, they're going to make 1034 00:47:46,781 --> 00:47:47,990 some sort of announcement today, 1035 00:47:48,032 --> 00:47:49,825 but I have been watching my computer screen 1036 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:50,868 all fucking day 1037 00:47:50,910 --> 00:47:52,661 and still no updates. 1038 00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:53,829 [sighs] 1039 00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:57,458 Here. Here's my Burning Man stuff. 1040 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,293 Found it. One thing. 1041 00:47:59,335 --> 00:48:00,711 [laughs] 1042 00:48:02,171 --> 00:48:03,547 [interviewer] It's like the whole place 1043 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:05,549 is like a Burning Man camp, you know? 1044 00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:07,968 Yeah, it's because my entire life 1045 00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:09,261 has become Burning Man. 1046 00:48:10,096 --> 00:48:12,598 Did you see my director's chair? Aren't I fancy? Huh? 1047 00:48:14,016 --> 00:48:15,351 [cackling] 1048 00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:18,396 Isn't that good? 1049 00:48:18,437 --> 00:48:20,398 I come from a fairly well-to-do family, 1050 00:48:20,439 --> 00:48:23,317 and when I was, uh, about 11 or 12, 1051 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:25,945 we lost most of our-- our finances, 1052 00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:27,988 and things changed very, very quickly. 1053 00:48:28,531 --> 00:48:30,699 I wanted so deeply to find a place 1054 00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:32,868 where, like, I didn't feel like I had less than, 1055 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:37,248 or I was less than, or I was, um, weak and small. 1056 00:48:37,289 --> 00:48:39,333 And so I made myself as big as fucking possible. 1057 00:48:39,375 --> 00:48:40,835 [wind gusting] 1058 00:48:41,877 --> 00:48:44,755 A lot of people live this sheltered cicada shell life, 1059 00:48:44,797 --> 00:48:46,674 where their true self is hidden, 1060 00:48:46,715 --> 00:48:48,259 very, very small, deep inside of them. 1061 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:52,054 And Burning Man is the only place that they can shed that. 1062 00:48:52,096 --> 00:48:54,515 Let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go! 1063 00:48:54,557 --> 00:48:55,766 Let's go. [laughs] 1064 00:48:55,808 --> 00:48:58,352 Burning Man has provided me the knowledge 1065 00:48:58,394 --> 00:49:01,188 that there was a place for me, and that there was a world 1066 00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:03,399 that didn't have to be the world I saw. 1067 00:49:03,441 --> 00:49:05,526 -Where are you from? -Uh, D.C. Washington, D.C. 1068 00:49:05,568 --> 00:49:06,777 -I'm from D.C.! -Nuh-uh! 1069 00:49:06,819 --> 00:49:08,362 -Big hi! -Hi! 1070 00:49:08,404 --> 00:49:10,406 Hi, habibi. Ah! 1071 00:49:11,407 --> 00:49:12,867 [Zoe] It really wasn't until 1072 00:49:12,867 --> 00:49:15,286 I convinced my family to go to Burning Man, 1073 00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:18,539 that there was an incredible reversal of roles. 1074 00:49:18,581 --> 00:49:21,917 When I took my mother, my sister, her sister, 1075 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:26,046 my-- her-- my aunt, my nephew, my sister's husband, 1076 00:49:26,088 --> 00:49:29,216 um, and I took them all together as virgins. 1077 00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:31,969 And I did it because I felt like 1078 00:49:32,011 --> 00:49:34,597 they would never understand me until I showed them Burning Man. 1079 00:49:35,181 --> 00:49:36,390 -Mama... -Faster. 1080 00:49:36,432 --> 00:49:37,725 [Zoe] ...have you had a nice burn? 1081 00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:38,893 I've had a great burn, 1082 00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:41,395 and I've met wonderful people, like John. 1083 00:49:41,437 --> 00:49:42,897 [Zoe] My mother, who is 70, 1084 00:49:42,897 --> 00:49:44,982 she met a guy on Plenty of Fish that was also a burner. 1085 00:49:45,024 --> 00:49:47,735 So they made a date at Burning Man to meet up. 1086 00:49:47,776 --> 00:49:49,236 They had the best time, 1087 00:49:49,278 --> 00:49:51,155 and they've been together ever since. 1088 00:49:51,197 --> 00:49:52,406 [♪ percussive music playing] 1089 00:49:52,448 --> 00:49:53,949 Yeah! 1090 00:49:54,617 --> 00:49:57,620 The thing that she said to me was that, like, she didn't know 1091 00:49:57,661 --> 00:49:59,497 that she had adventures left in her life. 1092 00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:03,751 It gave my mother her life back, and it restored her soul. 1093 00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:05,669 Mom, are you having a good time? 1094 00:50:05,711 --> 00:50:07,254 I am! [chuckles] 1095 00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:08,797 [Zoe] You know, I might make fun of Marian. 1096 00:50:08,839 --> 00:50:10,508 I might make fun of other burners. 1097 00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:13,010 But I have nothing but eternal gratitude 1098 00:50:13,052 --> 00:50:16,096 to anybody who makes that place possible 1099 00:50:16,138 --> 00:50:18,599 because it provided that experience for my mother. 1100 00:50:18,641 --> 00:50:19,642 It's just a miracle. 1101 00:50:22,686 --> 00:50:25,189 I think a lot of people are gonna lose their fucking minds 1102 00:50:25,231 --> 00:50:27,191 if they don't go to Burning Man this year. 1103 00:50:32,821 --> 00:50:34,782 -[Marian] Nice to meet you. -[crew 1] When you have moment, 1104 00:50:34,823 --> 00:50:35,866 can we put a microphone on you? 1105 00:50:35,908 --> 00:50:37,034 [Marian] Oh, yes. 1106 00:50:37,076 --> 00:50:37,993 [crew 1] Alright! 1107 00:50:41,914 --> 00:50:42,998 [crew 2] Alright. 1108 00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:45,834 What do we got there? 1109 00:50:53,008 --> 00:50:54,468 [crew 1] It has an auto gain control-- 1110 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:56,804 [Marian] This is gonna be a 10-minute piece, people. 1111 00:50:56,845 --> 00:50:58,514 -[crew 1] Great. -[Marian] Not long. 1112 00:51:06,355 --> 00:51:08,065 [Marian] Oh, my God. 1113 00:51:09,358 --> 00:51:10,859 [sighs] 1114 00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:17,074 [Marian] I'm gonna fuck up. 1115 00:51:17,116 --> 00:51:18,701 I can see it now. [sighs] 1116 00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:22,580 Yeah, Stuart, the problem with me not doing it, 1117 00:51:22,621 --> 00:51:24,373 it feels like a chick-- I, like, chickened out. 1118 00:51:25,708 --> 00:51:27,501 Oh, my God. This is so hard. 1119 00:51:27,543 --> 00:51:29,420 [camera operator] Check one, two. 1120 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,922 [text messages pinging rapidly] 1121 00:51:35,718 --> 00:51:37,011 You gonna have your scarf on? 1122 00:51:37,052 --> 00:51:39,221 [Marian] Is someone actually saying right now 1123 00:51:39,263 --> 00:51:40,681 that I shouldn't do the video? 1124 00:51:40,723 --> 00:51:42,516 [Stuart] That's what I said yesterday. 1125 00:51:42,558 --> 00:51:44,602 [text messages continue pinging] 1126 00:51:44,643 --> 00:51:46,687 [Marian] Should I not be doing this? 1127 00:51:46,687 --> 00:51:48,439 [♪ tense music playing] 1128 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,732 [sighs] 1129 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,403 Fuck. 1130 00:51:55,237 --> 00:51:56,238 [sighs] 1131 00:51:57,448 --> 00:51:58,449 Hi. 1132 00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:59,783 [inhales sharply] 1133 00:51:59,825 --> 00:52:01,869 We have some exciting things to talk about. 1134 00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:03,579 For 2021, 1135 00:52:03,621 --> 00:52:06,624 we know the need for community has never been stronger. 1136 00:52:07,166 --> 00:52:09,251 And building community is what burners do best. 1137 00:52:09,918 --> 00:52:13,088 We also recognize that the pandemic is not over. 1138 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:15,382 But we've made a difficult decision, 1139 00:52:15,424 --> 00:52:17,426 based on the best information available to us. 1140 00:52:17,468 --> 00:52:19,386 We have decided to focus our energy 1141 00:52:19,428 --> 00:52:22,097 on building Black Rock City 2022. 1142 00:52:22,806 --> 00:52:25,100 It's too important to do half-assed, 1143 00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:27,269 so we're doubling down on next year. 1144 00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:30,731 We recognize your need to be in community, 1145 00:52:30,773 --> 00:52:32,900 and your desires. 1146 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,944 So, we suggest that you create community. 1147 00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:38,572 Take this moment, gather together. 1148 00:52:38,614 --> 00:52:41,909 We're gonna celebrate Burn Week online. 1149 00:52:41,950 --> 00:52:43,911 -Oh, lame. -[Marian] And offline. 1150 00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:45,120 So lame. 1151 00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:49,249 [Level] Oh, 2019. 1152 00:52:49,291 --> 00:52:51,835 -[chuckles] -The last burn we'll ever know. 1153 00:52:51,877 --> 00:52:53,504 [staff member] That's not true. 1154 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,674 [Marian] No, we're not canceling Burning Man. 1155 00:52:58,634 --> 00:53:00,302 We're just not doing Black Rock City. 1156 00:53:01,804 --> 00:53:04,807 Remember, we will always burn the man. 1157 00:53:06,392 --> 00:53:08,268 [Kimbal] Several of us came together, 1158 00:53:08,268 --> 00:53:11,855 and we raised $13 million of philanthropic capital 1159 00:53:11,897 --> 00:53:16,110 to help the org put the Man on in 2021. 1160 00:53:16,151 --> 00:53:19,405 You asked us to help, we helped... 1161 00:53:20,656 --> 00:53:22,866 and then the-- you broke the promise. 1162 00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:25,494 And so that-- That really carried 1163 00:53:25,536 --> 00:53:28,330 such disappointment in my heart. 1164 00:53:29,373 --> 00:53:30,833 It-- It really hurt. 1165 00:53:32,209 --> 00:53:33,669 [Marian] The Bureau of Land Management 1166 00:53:33,711 --> 00:53:36,046 has said public lands will be available all summer. 1167 00:53:36,088 --> 00:53:37,381 Sick. 1168 00:53:37,423 --> 00:53:40,050 [Marian] So, wherever you are in the world, 1169 00:53:40,092 --> 00:53:41,844 take the 10 Principles with you. 1170 00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:44,138 -Show up as a responsible burner. -[Zoe snapping] 1171 00:53:44,179 --> 00:53:46,640 -Yes. -Remember, leaving no trace. 1172 00:53:46,682 --> 00:53:48,851 In my very humble opinion, 1173 00:53:48,892 --> 00:53:51,145 she's clearly telling the Burning Man community 1174 00:53:51,186 --> 00:53:53,021 that the land is open. 1175 00:53:53,063 --> 00:53:55,649 It is up to you to be the best little burner you can be. 1176 00:53:55,691 --> 00:53:58,235 Leave no trace, bring the 10 Principles, 1177 00:53:58,277 --> 00:54:00,779 and go to fucking Burning Man without them. 1178 00:54:01,613 --> 00:54:03,157 [news anchor 1] For the second year in a row, 1179 00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:04,700 Burning Man is canceled. 1180 00:54:04,742 --> 00:54:06,243 [news anchor 2] But that is not stopping 1181 00:54:06,285 --> 00:54:07,828 some people from trying to throw 1182 00:54:07,828 --> 00:54:10,998 their own unofficial party in the Nevada Desert. 1183 00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:12,207 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1184 00:54:13,792 --> 00:54:16,545 Sheriff's office has a message for those people: 1185 00:54:16,587 --> 00:54:17,713 "Don't." 1186 00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,507 Burners, they are trying to stop us. 1187 00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:22,342 [Zoe] All I know is that I'm going 1188 00:54:22,384 --> 00:54:23,927 because it's gonna be radically inclusive 1189 00:54:23,969 --> 00:54:25,554 and radically fuckin' awesome. 1190 00:54:25,596 --> 00:54:26,847 And if things go wrong, they'll go wrong 1191 00:54:26,889 --> 00:54:28,015 and we'll take care of it. 1192 00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:29,266 In my heart, it tells me 1193 00:54:29,308 --> 00:54:30,684 it's probably gonna be more towards 1194 00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:32,186 the shit-show side of things, 1195 00:54:32,227 --> 00:54:34,354 'cause there are some people who want it to go back 1196 00:54:34,396 --> 00:54:35,689 to what it was back in the '90s, 1197 00:54:35,731 --> 00:54:39,026 before it became such a structured festival. 1198 00:54:39,067 --> 00:54:40,569 [Stuart] Back in the old days, 1199 00:54:40,611 --> 00:54:41,695 we'd shoot guns. 1200 00:54:41,737 --> 00:54:42,738 [gunshot popping] 1201 00:54:43,071 --> 00:54:44,239 [Sheriff Jerry Allen] Mobile shooting ranges, 1202 00:54:44,281 --> 00:54:45,741 wanting to blow things up on the playa. 1203 00:54:45,783 --> 00:54:47,576 [Marian] Last time this chaos happened, 1204 00:54:47,618 --> 00:54:49,703 it was a huge disaster. 1205 00:54:49,745 --> 00:54:51,121 [John] We'd go up there and drove 1206 00:54:51,163 --> 00:54:52,664 across the playa, fucking, 1207 00:54:53,415 --> 00:54:55,542 shooting guns out the windows, drinking wine, 1208 00:54:55,584 --> 00:54:57,211 and on mushrooms. 1209 00:54:57,252 --> 00:54:59,087 I thought, this is the most American thing 1210 00:54:59,129 --> 00:55:00,714 you could possibly do. 1211 00:55:00,756 --> 00:55:02,716 But in 1996, 1212 00:55:02,758 --> 00:55:04,593 horrible shit happened repeatedly. 1213 00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:06,136 [Rosie] Tents were on fire. 1214 00:55:06,178 --> 00:55:07,888 [Harley] You cannot have anarchists 1215 00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:09,389 and chaos with 10,000 people. 1216 00:55:09,431 --> 00:55:10,891 -[crowd shouting] -[Rosie] It was an apocalypse. 1217 00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:12,559 [Marian] If people try to do the burn 1218 00:55:12,601 --> 00:55:15,229 at this scale, without us, 1219 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:16,730 people could die in the desert. 1220 00:55:16,772 --> 00:55:18,148 [fire booming] 1221 00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:21,026 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1222 00:55:49,137 --> 00:55:52,140 ♪♪ 93644

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