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[dramatic music]
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♪♪
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[gunfire]
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[static]
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It does not even register
to me that it's guns going off.
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[gunfire]
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I see Ryan running.
All of a sudden, I'm hit.
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[gunshot]
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[shattering glass]
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[people screaming in terror]
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I looked out the window.
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I said they're killing everyone,
they're killing everyone.
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And I turned to Larry
and he shot me twice...
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[gunshots]
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...point blank, one in
each side, once in the leg.
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And then Larry shot
Monica twice in the back.
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[gunshots]
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I think he had one bullet left,
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and he took and pointed it
right into Dale Park's face...
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[gun cocks]
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...and pulled the trigger
and the gun misfired.
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And so, we had
the fight for the gun.
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♪♪
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I'm lying under the
plane, pretending I'm dead.
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[gunfire]
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And I look down at the
right side of my body
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and my whole right
leg is just blown up.
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And I realize that I'm dying.
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[suspenseful music]
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[Vernon Gosney] The adrenaline
was running. I felt no pain.
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I was in survival mode and
I overpowered Larry Layton.
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I went out through
the pilot's door.
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I could still hear the gunshots,
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and I ran to the side of
the runway until I collapsed.
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And I just started
calling for help.
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♪♪
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[Guinn] There are other
people grievously wounded.
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Some younger people
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who were part of the
group run into the jungle.
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Other people are
slightly wounded,
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trying to hide in the grass.
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The gunmen make certain
that Leo Ryan is dead.
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♪♪
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They could have continued
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hunting for the wounded,
finished them off,
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but instead they get on the
tractor and return to Jonestown.
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[Speier] Eventually, Guyanese
locals get to the airstrip
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and place me on
the side of the airstrip.
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Unfortunately, I am
placed on top of an ant hill.
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So all of a sudden, I have
these ants crawling over my body,
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and I oftentimes say, you know,
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you don't sweat the small
stuff when you're dying.
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♪♪
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[Gosney] I don't recall how
big the group of assassins were.
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I don't know, four, five, six.
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They were all people
I knew for many years.
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All the assassins,
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including Larry as well.
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I knew everyone.
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♪♪
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[Guinn] There are five
dead on the tarmac.
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The five dead include Ryan,
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members of the
media, and one woman
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who had been at Jonestown
and was trying to escape.
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[air siren]
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Meanwhile, back at Jonestown,
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a voice comes on the speaker
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saying everyone needs
to come to the pavilion.
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Jim Jones realizes it's no
longer a matter of if, but when.
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He's not gonna be able
to go back to the States.
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What was going to be left to him
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was to tell his followers
that now is the time.
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We're committing
a revolutionary act.
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[Stephan Jones] The congressman's
dead. They've killed people.
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So, my dad at this point,
he knows he's gone.
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So he knows he's going out
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and now he-- he
doesn't want to go alone.
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[Carter] As people were
walking up from the cottages,
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it was very quiet,
it was very somber.
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I see Jones in
this conversation,
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and it's very animated,
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and it's obvious that
something is going on.
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[Stephan Jones] He's
saying that there are people
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coming right now to attack us.
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They're going to take us
out. This is our final stand.
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[Guinn] Maria Katsaris comes up,
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whispers something
in Jones' ear.
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[Carter] Maria Katsaris was one of
Jones' true quote unquote lieutenants,
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one of the people that
was closest to Jim Jones.
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Jim looks at her and he goes,
"Is it supposed to be quick?"
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And she goes, "Yes, it's
supposed to be quick."
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And he said,
"Does it taste okay?"
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She goes, "Yes, it's
supposed to taste good."
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♪♪
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[Guinn] Somewhere in Jonestown,
human guinea pigs were testing cyanide
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that was mixed in
a vat of Flavor Aid.
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♪♪
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Flavor Aid was a
cheap Kool-Aid knockoff.
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And I'm thinking, oh, my
God, how do I get out of here?
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How do I get Gloria and
Malcolm out of here with me?
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[suspenseful music]
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♪♪
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[Guinn] As people are
gathering in the pavilion,
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Jones took the stage,
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and we don't have to wonder
what was said that day.
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There was a tape running.
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It's known now
as the death tape.
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[congregants cheering
and applauding]
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♪♪
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[congregants cheering]
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[congregants cheering
and applauding]
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[suspenseful music]
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♪♪
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On November 18th, my
brothers went to go see a movie.
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I stayed at the compound.
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♪♪
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Early evening, I was called to
the radio room by Sharon Amos.
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♪♪
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I never liked Sharon.
She was a fanatic.
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[radio static]
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My father was on
the radio, and he said,
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"Jimmy, we're visiting
Mr. Frazier," which was a code.
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Then he said, the avenging
angels have visited Leo Ryan
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and we need you to
avenge our actions.
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In code, to break that up,
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was we're gonna commit
revolutionary suicide.
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The congressman has been killed.
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We need you to
avenge our deaths,
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so kill anybody in
town and kill yourself.
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♪♪
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I know when I was in Jonestown
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and they were having
these white night drills
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and long meetings
about dying for the cause,
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I never took it serious.
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I never thought we were
gonna die for the cause.
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I broke out of code.
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"Dad, we're not
going to kill ourselves.
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The people in
Jonestown can't die."
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But, "No, no, no, Jim."
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Meanwhile, I'm like,
"Go get my brothers."
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So, they went and got them
and Sharon Amos is like,
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"Oh, we gotta figure
out how to kill ourselves.
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Do we have piano wire? Do
we have, you know, thin wire?"
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She's kinda tweaking out.
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[Stephan Jones] We
quickly made our way back
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the headquarters in Georgetown.
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I knew that things
were far worse
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than they had ever been before
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and I'm trying to
manage the situation.
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I told someone, do not let
Sharon Amos out of your sight.
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I knew she had to be watched
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and that she was volatile
and capable of terrible things.
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♪♪
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[Jim Jones Jr.] We ran
over to the U.S. Embassy
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and we're talking to
a little squawk box,
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and they won't let us in.
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We're saying, "Send
us into Jonestown.
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"We can stop it. We don't
know what's going on,
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but you need to send
us out there right now."
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[Guinn] And they're saying,
surely the embassy, if nothing else,
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we can get a helicopter.
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If we can get back to Jonestown
before anything happens,
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we can stop it.
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And they're trying
to call in, you know,
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"This is an emergency,
it's--" "No, we're closed."
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You know, "It's Saturday."
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♪♪
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[Jim Jones Jr.] So, we
go back to the house.
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Everyone's
screaming and yelling.
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Sharon Amos had
tooken her kids...
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♪♪
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...into the bathroom with a
guy named Chuck Brightman
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and he took our niece
inside, Stephanie,
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and cut the children's throats.
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♪♪
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[Stephan Jones] What I
came upon is not something
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that I want to describe,
but it was horrible.
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♪♪
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[Jim Jones Jr.] You could
still hear people gurgling.
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Our friend Calvin Douglas
busted into the bathroom
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and pulled Stephanie out.
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She still has the scar.
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We called the police.
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And the police came.
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By then, the
gurgling had stopped.
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[Guinn] Back in Jonestown,
Jim Jones is on the stage.
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[Jim Jones] I don't
know who fired the shot.
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I don't know who
killed the congressman.
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But as far as I'm
concerned, I killed him.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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I killed him.
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He had no business
coming. I told him not to come.
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And as soon as
the word gets out,
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the army's gonna
be parachuting in,
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they're gonna come for us,
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they're gonna kill us all,
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they're gonna get our kids.
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We can't let that happen.
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We need to commit
revolutionary suicide.
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[Jim Jones] We can't go back.
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They won't leave us alone.
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They're now going
back to tell more lies,
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which means more congressmen.
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And there's no way, no
way we can survive. Hmm?
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[Mary Maaga] As they are in the
pavilion getting ready to commit suicide,
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a woman by the name of
Christine Miller begins to question
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what the logic is behind
letting 14 people who defect
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cause the deaths
of over 1,000 people.
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[congregants responding]
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[child wails]
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I'm completely
schizophrenic at this time,
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because one part
of me is saying,
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everybody's gonna
die, you're going to die.
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And another part
of me is saying,
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this doesn't make any sense.
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You don't kill everybody.
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[suspenseful music]
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[suspenseful music]
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[Jim Jones] Everybody dies.
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[congregants respond]
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I haven't seen anybody
yet that didn't die.
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And I'd like to choose my
own kind of death for a change.
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I'm tired of being tormented
to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
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[congregants respond]
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Tired of it.
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[congregants applaud]
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[Carter] By this time, the
pavilion is filled up with people.
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There's armed guards
around the pavilion.
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But the energy there was just...
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Um, I don't even know
how to describe it. Defeated?
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It was kind of like
people had been crushed.
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♪♪
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At this point, I'm
kind of intellectual.
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It's like, well, how is
this gonna come down?
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How am I gonna die?
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What's gonna happen?
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Because I'm not gonna
go down without a fight...
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when there's a
tap on my shoulder.
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He's been tapped on the
shoulder by Maria Katsaris.
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So is his brother, Mike.
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"Jim has a job for
you. Come with us."
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And they're taken
to a back cabin
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and there are three suitcases.
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She goes, "We have
suitcases of money
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"that need to be delivered
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"to the Russian
Embassy in Georgetown.
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Will you take them?"
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She gave us each a gun.
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She said, "If you're successful,
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"take what you need to
live on and have a good life,
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"but under no circumstances
are you to be taken alive.
252
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You're to kill yourselves
if you're caught."
253
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As to why he wanted
it to go to the Russians,
254
00:14:21,948 --> 00:14:24,689
I don't know if it was
Jim Jones' final "eff you"
255
00:14:24,733 --> 00:14:26,300
to the United States government.
256
00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:27,910
I don't know.
257
00:14:27,954 --> 00:14:29,390
But I said yes.
258
00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:31,871
And in my mind,
I was buying time,
259
00:14:31,914 --> 00:14:33,742
'cause I couldn't catch up.
260
00:14:33,785 --> 00:14:36,832
I could not catch up
with what was going on.
261
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:39,052
[child crying, chatter]
262
00:14:39,095 --> 00:14:40,401
[Jim Jones] Who wants
to go with their child
263
00:14:40,444 --> 00:14:42,055
has a right to go
with their child.
264
00:14:42,098 --> 00:14:44,144
I think it's humane.
265
00:14:44,187 --> 00:14:45,841
I want to see you go, though.
266
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:49,062
I don't want to see you go
through this hell no more.
267
00:14:49,105 --> 00:14:51,847
No more, no more, no more.
268
00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,067
[child wails]
269
00:14:54,110 --> 00:14:58,723
[Mary Maaga] As the vats of
cyanide-laced Flavor Aid are brought out,
270
00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:02,902
they are instructed to give
the drink to the children first
271
00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:07,123
because, of course, once the
children have been poisoned,
272
00:15:07,167 --> 00:15:09,430
how can any adult live
273
00:15:09,473 --> 00:15:12,346
after having watched
their own children die?
274
00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:15,566
[Jim Jones] Hurry, my
children. Hurry. All I think...
275
00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:17,786
Let's not fall into the
hands of the enemy.
276
00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:20,223
Hurry, my children.
277
00:15:20,267 --> 00:15:21,964
They have syringes,
278
00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:23,879
and they're gonna
squirt this stuff
279
00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:27,013
in the babies' mouths.
280
00:15:27,056 --> 00:15:30,103
[Jim Jones] No more pain now.
281
00:15:30,146 --> 00:15:35,064
No more pain. No more pain.
282
00:15:36,587 --> 00:15:39,547
[suspenseful music]
283
00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:42,332
♪♪
284
00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:04,964
Meanwhile, the adults
are about to have their turn.
285
00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:17,411
People are lining up and
some of them refused to do it,
286
00:16:17,454 --> 00:16:20,022
and they're held down
and forcibly injected.
287
00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:24,592
And we know this because
later with the bodies,
288
00:16:24,635 --> 00:16:28,596
some of them had abscesses
on their neck, on their arms,
289
00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:31,033
on their skull, anywhere a
needle could get jammed.
290
00:16:31,077 --> 00:16:32,861
That's where the
needles went in.
291
00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:36,299
And everybody
else is lined up to die.
292
00:16:36,343 --> 00:16:38,388
♪♪
293
00:16:38,432 --> 00:16:42,436
[Carter] So while Maria's getting
the gold, I went to get water.
294
00:16:42,479 --> 00:16:44,829
You don't go into the
jungle without water.
295
00:16:44,873 --> 00:16:47,310
As I'm approaching
the back of the pavilion,
296
00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:49,225
it's when people started dying,
297
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:51,706
and I cannot go through
the rest of it today,
298
00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:56,537
I just can't, but
needless to say,
299
00:16:56,580 --> 00:16:59,757
my wife and son were dying.
300
00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:02,760
[somber music]
301
00:17:02,804 --> 00:17:03,979
♪♪
302
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:06,677
It was just darkness.
303
00:17:06,721 --> 00:17:11,639
There was no light
anywhere in my life.
304
00:17:11,682 --> 00:17:15,251
As I'm walking back
to Jones' cottage,
305
00:17:15,295 --> 00:17:17,775
Carolyn Layton was
coming up and she said,
306
00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:20,561
"What's wrong, Tim?
Why are you crying?"
307
00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,476
All I could say is,
"They've murdered my son,
308
00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:25,000
they've murdered my son,
they've murdered my son."
309
00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:28,438
♪♪
310
00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:31,876
[Guinn] Jones says
it's going to be easy.
311
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:37,882
But death by cyanide is one of
the worst ways to go possible.
312
00:17:37,926 --> 00:17:40,885
It keeps your body
from absorbing oxygen.
313
00:17:40,929 --> 00:17:43,062
You suffocate slowly.
314
00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:46,065
[congregants
screaming and crying]
315
00:17:53,289 --> 00:17:55,900
The sounds I was
hearing were screaming.
316
00:17:55,944 --> 00:18:00,905
People were screaming
in fear, in pain, in death.
317
00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:03,256
There was nothing
joyous going on.
318
00:18:03,299 --> 00:18:06,563
There was no grand
hallelujah for Jim Jones.
319
00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,783
Marceline Jones was screaming,
320
00:18:08,826 --> 00:18:12,482
"Stop this! Stop
this! Stop this!"
321
00:18:12,526 --> 00:18:16,399
People were being massacred.
322
00:18:16,443 --> 00:18:18,967
[Jim Jones] Mother,
please, please, please.
323
00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:23,493
Don't-- Don't do
this. Don't do this.
324
00:18:23,537 --> 00:18:26,366
[Stephan Jones] People have painted
this picture that my mother was up there
325
00:18:26,409 --> 00:18:28,759
doling out the poison,
but that runs contrary
326
00:18:28,803 --> 00:18:30,718
to what I know about my mother.
327
00:18:30,761 --> 00:18:35,984
She came from a stand by
and slightly behind your man era,
328
00:18:36,027 --> 00:18:39,030
but she was also
very strong-willed,
329
00:18:39,074 --> 00:18:41,294
and my father
ordered her restrained
330
00:18:41,337 --> 00:18:44,601
and she struggled
until the last child died.
331
00:18:44,645 --> 00:18:48,301
♪♪
332
00:18:48,344 --> 00:18:51,956
At that point in time, I just
wanted the nightmare to stop.
333
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,958
I wanted to die.
334
00:18:54,002 --> 00:18:56,787
And there was a voice in my
head that said, you cannot die,
335
00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:59,616
you cannot die, you must
go on, you cannot die.
336
00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:01,749
[suspenseful music]
337
00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:06,145
We went back to the
cottages, got the suitcases,
338
00:19:06,188 --> 00:19:08,234
and left Jonestown.
339
00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:11,193
♪♪
340
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,632
At this point in time,
341
00:19:15,676 --> 00:19:17,852
I didn't even know
if I wanted to live.
342
00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:20,550
But I knew I wanted
nothing to do with Jim Jones,
343
00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:21,986
I wanted nothing
to do with Russians,
344
00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:24,772
I wanted nothing
to do with money.
345
00:19:24,815 --> 00:19:26,252
So I said, we can't do this.
346
00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:28,167
We need to dump the suitcases.
347
00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:31,648
♪♪
348
00:19:33,824 --> 00:19:39,352
And there's a part of me
that doesn't even believe
349
00:19:39,395 --> 00:19:41,528
that I just saw what I saw.
350
00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:45,009
[Jim Jones] One
thousand people say
351
00:19:45,053 --> 00:19:46,881
we don't like the
way the world is.
352
00:19:46,924 --> 00:19:49,231
[congregants respond]
353
00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:51,364
Take our life from us.
354
00:19:51,407 --> 00:19:53,801
We laid it down, we got tired.
355
00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:56,586
[congregants respond]
356
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:58,109
We didn't commit suicide,
357
00:19:58,153 --> 00:20:00,373
we committed an act
of revolutionary suicide
358
00:20:00,416 --> 00:20:04,899
protesting the conditions
of an inhumane world.
359
00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:09,338
♪♪
360
00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:21,307
[tape recorder
whirs, clicks off]
361
00:20:25,354 --> 00:20:28,270
[somber music]
362
00:20:28,314 --> 00:20:31,230
♪♪
363
00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:52,947
[Guinn] There's been a
monsoon the day before.
364
00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:57,473
Steam is rising up off
the ground. It's like fog.
365
00:20:59,475 --> 00:21:03,262
♪♪
366
00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:08,919
And finally, the fog, the
mist is clearing a little bit.
367
00:21:08,963 --> 00:21:11,487
♪♪
368
00:21:11,531 --> 00:21:16,492
And what they see, they find
almost impossible to describe
369
00:21:16,536 --> 00:21:22,193
over the radio to the superiors
waiting back in Georgetown.
370
00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:26,894
They start describing,
there's just heaps of them.
371
00:21:26,937 --> 00:21:29,592
And, of course, in
Georgetown, "Heaps of what?"
372
00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:31,290
♪♪
373
00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:32,943
"Dead people."
374
00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:39,385
[male reporter] As soon as
these pictures from Jonestown
375
00:21:39,428 --> 00:21:41,387
cleared our newsroom, everybody,
376
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:43,171
even a lot of
hardened news people,
377
00:21:43,214 --> 00:21:46,348
reacted in horror and disbelief.
378
00:21:46,392 --> 00:21:49,699
The word on everybody's
lips was "shades of Auschwitz."
379
00:21:49,743 --> 00:21:52,833
[helicopter flying overhead]
380
00:21:52,876 --> 00:21:56,837
As you can see, bodies
are strewn all over the place.
381
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,361
♪♪
382
00:21:59,405 --> 00:22:02,364
[male reporter] The bodies
seemed awful and orderly,
383
00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:05,019
not flung about like
corpses after a battle
384
00:22:05,062 --> 00:22:07,369
but neat, hand-in-hand
sometimes,
385
00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:09,066
arms about each
other's shoulders.
386
00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:14,550
[female reporter] The
death ritual was methodical.
387
00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:16,596
Some of the syringes
contained poison,
388
00:22:16,639 --> 00:22:19,947
the rest had tranquilizers.
389
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:21,818
Marcia, you have more.Yeah, of
course, there's a lot we don't know,
390
00:22:21,862 --> 00:22:24,212
but this we do know--
the Reverend Jim Jones,
391
00:22:24,255 --> 00:22:26,040
the founder of Peoples
Temple, is dead,
392
00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:29,173
and he died as a result of a
gunshot wound to the head,
393
00:22:29,217 --> 00:22:30,958
not of poisoning.
394
00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:34,614
[Guinn] Jim Jones
they find on the pavilion,
395
00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:39,183
bloated, dead, a gunshot
wound to the head.
396
00:22:39,227 --> 00:22:40,968
You can suspect that Jim Jones,
397
00:22:41,011 --> 00:22:45,364
having seen the terrible deaths
his followers were suffering,
398
00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:48,236
at the last minute
didn't want it for himself.
399
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,412
♪♪
400
00:22:50,456 --> 00:22:52,414
[female reporter] Police believe
that most of the people went willingly,
401
00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,329
but others were
forced by armed guards.
402
00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,810
When the poison
was being passed out,
403
00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,508
men were around this auditorium
area here with crossbows.
404
00:22:59,552 --> 00:23:01,684
They were acting as guards.
405
00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:05,384
[male reporter] Clayton, 28, of Oakland,
is one of four known eyewitnesses
406
00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:06,907
to the suicide-murders.
407
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:09,779
He got away after
more than 700 had died
408
00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:11,564
by slipping past a guard.
409
00:23:11,607 --> 00:23:13,261
A lot of people
didn't want to die.
410
00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:18,179
They was just sitting
there. Frightened. Afraid.
411
00:23:18,222 --> 00:23:21,312
In one case, she
struggled pretty hard,
412
00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,532
'cause she didn't want to die.
413
00:23:23,576 --> 00:23:25,534
[male reporter] And
how did they kill her?
414
00:23:25,578 --> 00:23:29,756
They injected her in the arm.
415
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,759
[somber music]
416
00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:36,545
♪♪
417
00:23:36,589 --> 00:23:41,985
[Guinn] The soldiers, they're
asked, can you count 'em?
418
00:23:42,029 --> 00:23:43,465
And they try.
419
00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:45,641
♪♪
420
00:23:45,685 --> 00:23:48,862
[male reporter] Four
hundred suicides and killings,
421
00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:51,952
one of the most astonishing
stories of our time,
422
00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:53,954
perhaps of any time.
423
00:23:53,997 --> 00:23:56,260
♪♪
424
00:23:56,304 --> 00:23:58,828
[Guinn] Well, there's at least
425
00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:02,266
900-something
people in Jonestown.
426
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:06,140
That must mean that there's
500 people who are still alive.
427
00:24:06,183 --> 00:24:08,925
Maybe they've
run into the jungle.
428
00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:11,885
♪♪
429
00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:20,502
[Leslie Wagner-Wilson] The morning
that we left, my plan was to escape,
430
00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:24,071
come back and get my sister and
brother and my niece and nephew.
431
00:24:24,114 --> 00:24:28,075
So, once we realized
that the tragedy happened,
432
00:24:28,118 --> 00:24:30,947
I'm just praying that one
of my family members
433
00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:32,993
ran into the jungle,
if not all of them.
434
00:24:33,036 --> 00:24:34,864
♪♪
435
00:24:34,908 --> 00:24:38,477
But the body count was
wrong from the beginning.
436
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,480
♪♪
437
00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:44,570
[male reporter] Good evening.
438
00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:46,310
The searching American soldiers
439
00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:49,879
have finished counting the
bodies in Jonestown, Guyana.
440
00:24:49,923 --> 00:24:53,100
Nine-hundred-ten
died in the poison ritual
441
00:24:53,143 --> 00:24:56,364
of the Peoples Temple last week.
442
00:24:56,407 --> 00:24:58,671
[male reporter] Why in the
world would so many people
443
00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:00,194
agree to kill themselves?
444
00:25:00,237 --> 00:25:01,500
What kind of a leader
445
00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:03,893
could order mass
suicide and be obeyed?
446
00:25:03,937 --> 00:25:05,460
[male reporter] The
mass suicides happened
447
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,114
in this heavily forested area,
448
00:25:07,157 --> 00:25:09,246
down there, in the compound.
449
00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:12,859
[Carter] The narrative
is mass suicide.
450
00:25:12,902 --> 00:25:15,078
Sheep. Drinking the Kool-Aid.
451
00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:17,124
Voluntarily drinking
the Kool-Aid.
452
00:25:17,167 --> 00:25:23,478
And yet, a lot of
people were murdered.
453
00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:27,830
And if you've just seen
your child murdered,
454
00:25:27,874 --> 00:25:30,529
besides wanting to kill
the mother[bleep] that did it,
455
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:32,835
would you want to live?
456
00:25:32,879 --> 00:25:36,143
The answer is probably no.
457
00:25:36,186 --> 00:25:38,711
If you believe that the
only choice you have
458
00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:42,932
is dying by drinking a
poison or getting shot,
459
00:25:42,976 --> 00:25:44,847
are you committing suicide
460
00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:46,849
or are you taking
the easiest way out
461
00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:50,549
'cause you know that
you're gonna die anyway?
462
00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:51,811
The bottom line
is, what happened
463
00:25:51,854 --> 00:25:55,641
in Jonestown,
Guyana, was murder.
464
00:25:55,684 --> 00:25:59,732
[somber music]
465
00:25:59,775 --> 00:26:03,736
[Leslie Wagner-Wilson] I lost my
entire immediate family in Jonestown.
466
00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:07,609
I lost my mother,
Inez, who was 50.
467
00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:10,220
I lost my brother,
Mark, who was 16.
468
00:26:10,264 --> 00:26:12,788
I lost my sister,
Michelle, who was 24.
469
00:26:12,832 --> 00:26:15,748
I lost Joe, who was 24.
470
00:26:15,791 --> 00:26:20,840
Yeah, I lost them all
at-- in one moment.
471
00:26:20,883 --> 00:26:23,799
♪♪
472
00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:41,774
[Grace Stoen] They didn't want me to
keep my hopes up for-- for John Victor,
473
00:26:41,817 --> 00:26:45,342
but finally one of
the survivors said
474
00:26:45,386 --> 00:26:47,997
that they had personally seen
John and that he had evidently
475
00:26:48,041 --> 00:26:52,785
been taken to-- he
was in Jim's cabin
476
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:57,050
and he had been injected
and they actually saw.
477
00:26:57,093 --> 00:27:00,531
So I knew, for sure...
478
00:27:00,575 --> 00:27:02,446
♪♪
479
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:06,625
...that he was deceased, so...
480
00:27:06,668 --> 00:27:09,671
♪♪
481
00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:33,956
I was shot once in each side,
my diaphragm, my stomach.
482
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,046
My liver. My pancreas
was removed.
483
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:39,614
When I came out of ICU,
484
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:42,138
I found out what had
happened in Jonestown,
485
00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:44,488
'cause I did not know.
486
00:27:44,532 --> 00:27:46,360
The psychiatrist just
came into my room
487
00:27:46,403 --> 00:27:48,144
and opened the paper like this,
488
00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:51,060
to show me the pictures
of the dead bodies.
489
00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:54,934
[camera shutter clicking]
490
00:27:54,977 --> 00:27:58,067
♪♪
491
00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:03,333
I think at the moment when
I knew that my son was dead
492
00:28:03,377 --> 00:28:07,729
and being asked to
describe his clothing,
493
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,949
I think my mind just snapped.
494
00:28:09,992 --> 00:28:14,910
I just think I just had
a mental breakdown.
495
00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:20,960
I, uh, I didn't function really
well for a very long time.
496
00:28:21,003 --> 00:28:23,919
♪♪
497
00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:28,532
[male reporter] How are you
gonna handle this nightmare?
498
00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,099
♪♪
499
00:28:30,143 --> 00:28:32,536
I don't know.
500
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:34,930
I don't know.
501
00:28:34,974 --> 00:28:37,106
It's a nightmare.
502
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:39,892
♪♪
503
00:28:39,935 --> 00:28:44,113
[Guinn] For the survivors,
things were only gonna get worse.
504
00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:46,333
[male reporter] The
cultists try to forget,
505
00:28:46,376 --> 00:28:48,596
but all know they
can never escape
506
00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:51,642
the stigma of what
happened at Jonestown.
507
00:28:56,691 --> 00:28:58,954
♪♪
508
00:28:58,998 --> 00:29:01,696
[camera shutter clicking]
509
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,351
My name is Tim Carter, but I-- I
really don't want to talk right now.
510
00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:05,831
[male reporter] Tim,
please, this is very important.
511
00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:07,049
I lost two friends here, too.
512
00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:08,268
I lost my wife and my son.
513
00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:10,836
I don't want to talk right now.
514
00:29:10,879 --> 00:29:14,927
We get to the airport,
and all of a sudden,
515
00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:17,930
there's just
reporters everywhere.
516
00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:19,801
[camera shutter clicking]
517
00:29:19,845 --> 00:29:21,803
So that was the beginning
518
00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:25,720
of 36 hours straight
of media interviews.
519
00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,733
[Carter] But the very
first reporter said,
520
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,648
this is going on the
evening national news
521
00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:42,824
saying that you guys are hitmen.
522
00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:45,305
You can respond
if you want or not.
523
00:29:45,348 --> 00:29:47,916
♪♪
524
00:30:02,235 --> 00:30:05,499
There was no place
for us to go or hide.
525
00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:09,764
This is private.
526
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,682
After everyone died, the
media was everywhere.
527
00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:16,640
It wasn't mass
suicide, you know?
528
00:30:16,684 --> 00:30:18,860
It was mass murder.
529
00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,862
I wanted to stop it.
530
00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:22,429
All of those people are my life.
531
00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:23,865
All my 19 years, I've
known no one else, right?
532
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:25,606
What am I gonna do?
533
00:30:25,649 --> 00:30:28,000
You see what's happened
when a few people tried to leave.
534
00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:29,871
I didn't know what could happen.
535
00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:32,831
I'm doing the best I can.
536
00:30:32,874 --> 00:30:35,268
There were many people
within the community that I loved.
537
00:30:35,311 --> 00:30:38,227
We had just lost everything.
We were devastated.
538
00:30:38,271 --> 00:30:41,013
I know I felt
complicit. I felt terrified,
539
00:30:41,056 --> 00:30:47,323
horrified, grief stricken,
hopeless, and ashamed.
540
00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:49,673
I can almost say
that I hate this man
541
00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:51,327
for doing what he's done,
542
00:30:51,371 --> 00:30:54,287
because he has destroyed
everything I've lived for.
543
00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:57,768
[male reporter] Moments
after the latest 17 survivors
544
00:30:57,812 --> 00:31:00,075
arrived at Kennedy
Airport last night,
545
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,817
FBI agents escorted
them onto buses
546
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:06,734
for the most intense questioning
yet of returning survivors.
547
00:31:06,777 --> 00:31:08,083
Included in the group,
548
00:31:08,127 --> 00:31:10,912
the Reverend Jim
Jones' adopted son, Jim.
549
00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:12,871
Um, he... To me, he was sick.
550
00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:15,874
I'm not no medical person,
but if I was to look at him,
551
00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:18,137
I would look at him and
say, that's a sick man.
552
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:19,965
♪♪
553
00:31:20,008 --> 00:31:22,706
[Laura Johnston Kohl] We
arrived penniless and hungry
554
00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:26,406
and, you know, traumatized
by our whole experience,
555
00:31:26,449 --> 00:31:28,582
and then they kept
up the questioning.
556
00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:32,368
[Guinn] They were suspected
of being part of the plot.
557
00:31:32,412 --> 00:31:37,286
People all think they're
nuts, they might be murderers.
558
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:39,549
They're all scarred in that way.
559
00:31:39,593 --> 00:31:41,073
♪♪
560
00:31:41,116 --> 00:31:43,162
[Jim Jones Jr.]
We were followed.
561
00:31:43,205 --> 00:31:45,294
I would go to work, I'd
have a plainclothes car
562
00:31:45,338 --> 00:31:47,166
following me.
563
00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:48,863
I think some of that was like,
564
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:51,300
what the hell's going on with
him? What is he gonna do?
565
00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:55,087
[Gosney] After I
escaped Jonestown,
566
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:58,220
I was still in
Jonestown in my mind.
567
00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:02,224
There was a lot of paranoia.
568
00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:04,792
I saw a man from the
back with black hair,
569
00:32:04,835 --> 00:32:07,403
I thought it was Jim Jones
and I would start running.
570
00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:09,318
♪♪
571
00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:12,626
One of the hardest things
to deal with, among many,
572
00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:16,760
were Kool-Aid jokes,
Jonestown jokes.
573
00:32:16,804 --> 00:32:22,853
I was treated by people
that thought I was very stupid.
574
00:32:22,897 --> 00:32:25,900
We all felt like we had
been made fools of, in a way,
575
00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:28,337
because we had
believed so totally
576
00:32:28,381 --> 00:32:29,948
in what Jim Jones was saying.
577
00:32:29,991 --> 00:32:33,125
♪♪
578
00:32:33,168 --> 00:32:38,608
[Speier] Jim Jones was a
cult leader who was maniacal
579
00:32:38,652 --> 00:32:45,006
and who was allowed to
pursue this horrific cause
580
00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:47,791
for his personal aggrandizement.
581
00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:49,228
♪♪
582
00:32:49,271 --> 00:32:52,796
He had used the word "church"
583
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,715
in sanitizing his
grotesque behavior.
584
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,066
♪♪
585
00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:04,025
Absolute power
corrupts absolutely.
586
00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:08,247
Jim went into the deep,
dark recesses of his mind
587
00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:13,165
and what came back out
was scary. It was terrible.
588
00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:15,515
♪♪
589
00:33:15,558 --> 00:33:17,821
[Guinn] Jones put
himself in the position
590
00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:20,389
where no one could tell him no.
591
00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:22,000
He was enabled.
592
00:33:22,043 --> 00:33:24,219
This is what demagogues do.
593
00:33:24,263 --> 00:33:26,656
And so, gradually,
594
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,050
the worst part of
his nature took over
595
00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:33,011
until finally it consumed
him and, sadly,
596
00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:35,883
it consumed all the people
who had believed in him.
597
00:33:35,926 --> 00:33:39,234
♪♪
598
00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:46,850
[Jim Jones Jr.] I felt it
was my responsibility
599
00:33:46,894 --> 00:33:49,549
to attend as many
funerals as possible.
600
00:33:49,592 --> 00:33:53,074
Especially for my
friends, friends of mine.
601
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:54,467
♪♪
602
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:56,512
One of my friends, I
went to her funeral,
603
00:33:56,556 --> 00:33:59,472
and I remember the mother
coming out of the hallway
604
00:33:59,515 --> 00:34:03,215
with a .38 caliber pistol
and pointing it at me
605
00:34:03,258 --> 00:34:08,350
and saying why are you
alive when my daughter's not?
606
00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:10,657
And then everyone grabbing her,
607
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:15,531
and-- and me kind
of sitting there going,
608
00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:17,925
pull the trigger.
609
00:34:17,968 --> 00:34:19,927
You know? It was...
610
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:25,933
At that-- At that point,
I didn't want to live.
611
00:34:32,374 --> 00:34:34,811
[hammering]
612
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:39,686
[male reporter] Little has
changed in the settlement itself.
613
00:34:39,729 --> 00:34:41,905
There are police
guards patrolling
614
00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:43,472
to keep visitors away.
615
00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:46,345
The chair in which Jim Jones sat
616
00:34:46,388 --> 00:34:49,609
when he called on his
people to die is still there,
617
00:34:49,652 --> 00:34:51,350
along with the
benches where they sat
618
00:34:51,393 --> 00:34:52,612
and listened and obeyed.
619
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,615
[somber music]
620
00:34:55,658 --> 00:34:58,574
♪♪
621
00:35:08,367 --> 00:35:10,543
My name is Larry Layton.
622
00:35:10,586 --> 00:35:11,631
[shutter clicking]
623
00:35:11,674 --> 00:35:14,590
♪♪
624
00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:22,816
[male reporter] Most of the
Temple survivors and defectors
625
00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:25,949
who returned from Guyana
have settled in San Francisco.
626
00:35:25,993 --> 00:35:28,300
The Peoples Temple
building was sold.
627
00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:31,216
It is now a Korean
Presbyterian Church.
628
00:35:31,259 --> 00:35:34,784
Doctors say that almost all
the former Temple members
629
00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:37,570
live with anxiety,
fear, and guilt.
630
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:41,748
I think that they will be able
to build a life for themselves.
631
00:35:41,791 --> 00:35:45,012
The fears, the memories,
and some of the scars,
632
00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:48,146
for many of them, it'll--
it'll be a lifelong process
633
00:35:48,189 --> 00:35:50,757
trying to deal with that.
634
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,109
[Stephan Jones] For many
years, I wasn't healing.
635
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,764
I was battling demons
on a daily basis,
636
00:35:57,807 --> 00:36:02,856
using everything I could
to quiet the noise inside me.
637
00:36:02,899 --> 00:36:07,469
And around that time,
my daughter was born.
638
00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:09,558
That little baby
cracked my heart open
639
00:36:09,602 --> 00:36:11,604
in a way that
pushed me toward life
640
00:36:11,647 --> 00:36:15,390
instead of choosing
the easy way out.
641
00:36:15,434 --> 00:36:18,350
♪♪
642
00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:29,274
[Jim Jones Jr.] I went
by James for a long time,
643
00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:33,365
and it wasn't until
many years after
644
00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:36,411
that I even went
by Jim Jones again.
645
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:38,718
♪♪
646
00:36:38,761 --> 00:36:40,154
After 40 years,
647
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:45,028
I've lived two lifetimes
outside Peoples Temple.
648
00:36:45,072 --> 00:36:50,077
I'm grateful that,
um, I survived.
649
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,036
♪♪
650
00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:02,307
[Speier] I was
hospitalized for two months.
651
00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:03,830
I had a lot of time to think.
652
00:37:03,873 --> 00:37:06,920
I was so badly wounded
that they thought
653
00:37:06,963 --> 00:37:10,053
they were gonna have to
amputate my arm and/or my leg.
654
00:37:10,097 --> 00:37:12,839
I had gas gangrene
through my body.
655
00:37:12,882 --> 00:37:15,276
♪♪
656
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,060
I just made a
commitment to myself
657
00:37:17,104 --> 00:37:19,628
that I did not want to
spend the rest of my life
658
00:37:19,672 --> 00:37:22,196
as a victim or
survivor of Guyana,
659
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,633
and I made a commitment
then to spend the rest of my life
660
00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:28,637
in public service, to continue
Congressman Ryan's legacy.
661
00:37:28,681 --> 00:37:31,597
♪♪
662
00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:45,480
[Leslie Wagner-Wilson] When I came
back to the United States, I was shattered.
663
00:37:45,524 --> 00:37:48,570
Came back with survivor's
guilt and I wasn't diagnosed.
664
00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:51,573
Every day I was like,
why did I survive?
665
00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:53,793
Why was I allowed to survive?
666
00:37:53,836 --> 00:37:58,754
Inside, I was so broken.
667
00:37:58,798 --> 00:38:01,148
I didn't start healing
until 20 years later.
668
00:38:01,191 --> 00:38:03,150
♪♪
669
00:38:03,193 --> 00:38:07,807
My son, Jakari, calls me
his, you know, warrior queen.
670
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:11,680
He understands the
sacrifice that I made.
671
00:38:11,724 --> 00:38:14,204
He knows every step
of the way, I'm there.
672
00:38:14,248 --> 00:38:15,293
♪♪
673
00:38:15,336 --> 00:38:16,729
I'm just not going anywhere.
674
00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:20,602
And I know a lot of it is
because of Jonestown.
675
00:38:20,646 --> 00:38:23,562
♪♪
676
00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:36,923
[Gosney] I call Leslie
Wagner my, uh, my hero
677
00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:41,144
because she left with her son.
678
00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:43,495
I see her as a person
of great courage,
679
00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:44,583
that she was able to do that,
680
00:38:44,626 --> 00:38:46,628
she was able to get her son out,
681
00:38:46,672 --> 00:38:49,849
and she was able to risk death.
682
00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:52,155
♪♪
683
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,636
I've come to peace
with my journey,
684
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,640
except around my son.
685
00:38:58,684 --> 00:39:01,991
That will be something
that's always with me.
686
00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:07,388
I still struggle
to forgive myself.
687
00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:12,219
♪♪
688
00:39:18,791 --> 00:39:22,011
[male reporter] The former Temple
members try to comfort each other
689
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:24,100
and their Temple
past is their bond.
690
00:39:24,144 --> 00:39:26,668
Whatever their thoughts
about Jim Jones,
691
00:39:26,712 --> 00:39:29,541
they are all trying to
rebuild shattered lives.
692
00:39:29,584 --> 00:39:31,194
♪♪
693
00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:33,327
[Stephan Jones] All of
us, if we allow ourselves
694
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,460
to step into that story,
695
00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:37,592
there's something
there we can use.
696
00:39:37,636 --> 00:39:39,115
♪♪
697
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,205
And I pray that
anyone watching this
698
00:39:42,249 --> 00:39:45,687
can take away from it
whatever is valuable to them
699
00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:50,170
as a way of honoring
those we lost.
700
00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:53,652
♪♪
701
00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:57,220
[Wagner-Wilson] There are many
lessons to be learned from Jonestown.
702
00:39:57,264 --> 00:39:59,484
I look at the world today,
703
00:39:59,527 --> 00:40:02,356
I look at the
environment that we're in,
704
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,273
and I see this-- this parallel.
705
00:40:06,316 --> 00:40:09,276
And I look at how
Peoples Temple began.
706
00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:13,323
It began in a time when there
was a socio-political change,
707
00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:16,501
but it was also based on fear.
708
00:40:16,544 --> 00:40:19,417
We are in the same type
of environment, if not worse,
709
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:21,027
that could generate something
710
00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:26,902
much, much more
dangerous than Jonestown.
711
00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:28,687
It could happen again.
712
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:33,169
♪♪
713
00:40:33,213 --> 00:40:36,129
[Jim Jones Jr.] I put the blame
for what happened in Jonestown
714
00:40:36,172 --> 00:40:38,044
on my father.
715
00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:39,654
♪♪
716
00:40:39,698 --> 00:40:43,136
But I don't think the
story is Jim Jones.
717
00:40:43,179 --> 00:40:45,355
I think the story is the people
718
00:40:45,399 --> 00:40:48,446
who followed Jim
Jones to-- to Jonestown.
719
00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:50,883
♪♪
720
00:40:50,926 --> 00:40:52,667
You know, I always said, I
go, how appropriately named
721
00:40:52,711 --> 00:40:54,452
was Peoples Temple?
722
00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:58,107
Because it was really the
people that made that church.
723
00:40:58,151 --> 00:41:02,198
Some of the best years of
my life were in Peoples Temple.
724
00:41:02,242 --> 00:41:06,420
It wasn't Peoples Temple, it
was a sense of community.
725
00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,727
A sense of belonging.
726
00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:12,731
A sense of doing the right
thing when no one was looking.
727
00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:15,951
[Stoen] It's just really too bad
728
00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:17,997
that we couldn't have
gone down in history
729
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,655
as this great, wonderful
humanitarian group that we were.
730
00:41:23,698 --> 00:41:26,875
We could've been a
force to be reckoned with.
731
00:41:26,919 --> 00:41:31,097
♪♪
732
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,665
[Carter] I wish that
there was an easy answer
733
00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:36,319
around Peoples
Temple and Jonestown.
734
00:41:36,363 --> 00:41:38,670
But there are no easy answers.
735
00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:41,542
Anybody that has taken the time
736
00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:45,024
to get to know the story
has-- has discovered that,
737
00:41:45,067 --> 00:41:49,115
oh, my gosh, these were,
like, real folks, you know?
738
00:41:49,158 --> 00:41:50,899
♪♪
739
00:41:50,943 --> 00:41:55,338
Nothing special about us,
nothing unspecial about us.
740
00:41:55,382 --> 00:41:57,776
Maybe even like me.
741
00:41:57,819 --> 00:42:01,127
And I might have actually
joined something like that.
742
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,130
[somber music]
743
00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:07,089
♪♪
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