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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:07,924 Hi, my name is Stormy Daniels, 3 00:00:07,965 --> 00:00:10,968 and I'm sure you've heard of me by now. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 5 00:00:10,968 --> 00:00:12,503 I'll be narrating and you'll see me 6 00:00:12,527 --> 00:00:14,472 popping up in this film from time to time. 7 00:00:15,139 --> 00:00:16,521 You may have heard about my recent 8 00:00:16,533 --> 00:00:17,767 courtroom appearance in a case 9 00:00:17,767 --> 00:00:21,562 called The People of New York versus Donald J. Trump. 10 00:00:21,562 --> 00:00:24,232 You see, Trump lied about our sexual encounter. 11 00:00:27,235 --> 00:00:29,987 And then covered it up by falsifying business records. 12 00:00:29,987 --> 00:00:32,669 In doing so, he unlawfully influenced 13 00:00:32,693 --> 00:00:35,076 the 2016 presidential election. 14 00:00:35,076 --> 00:00:37,212 On May 30th, 2024, Donald Trump was 15 00:00:37,236 --> 00:00:39,372 convicted of committing 34 felonies. 16 00:00:39,538 --> 00:00:41,123 He's the first U.S. president 17 00:00:41,123 --> 00:00:43,084 ever convicted of a felony 18 00:00:43,084 --> 00:00:45,378 and not just 1, 34. 19 00:00:45,378 --> 00:00:47,338 Go big or go home, right? 20 00:00:47,338 --> 00:00:49,257 Justice can be a real bitch. 21 00:00:49,715 --> 00:00:52,477 Right now, I want to tell you how Vladimir Putin 22 00:00:52,501 --> 00:00:55,263 also interfered in the 2016 election, 23 00:00:56,013 --> 00:00:57,691 and how Donald Trump keeps talking 24 00:00:57,715 --> 00:00:59,392 about a little something called 25 00:00:59,392 --> 00:01:01,352 'golden showers'. 26 00:01:01,352 --> 00:01:05,106 So come for the water sports and stay for the collusion. 27 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:07,561 (lounge music) 28 00:01:10,903 --> 00:01:13,531 And the whole Russia investigation? 29 00:01:13,531 --> 00:01:15,866 It was all phony shit. 30 00:01:15,866 --> 00:01:18,869 Okay, all phony stuff. 31 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:21,247 I'm not into golden showers! 32 00:01:21,247 --> 00:01:23,249 Yes, he actually said this. 33 00:01:23,249 --> 00:01:25,710 Wait, what? Nobody even asked him. 34 00:01:25,710 --> 00:01:27,336 Not recently. 35 00:01:27,336 --> 00:01:30,047 Then why is his hair goldenrod? 36 00:01:30,047 --> 00:01:31,382 You know the great thing, 37 00:01:31,382 --> 00:01:33,467 our great first lady - 38 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:34,969 That one, she said. 39 00:01:34,969 --> 00:01:36,512 I don't believe that one! 40 00:01:36,512 --> 00:01:38,180 Yes, he actually said this. 41 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:40,242 So Melania believes all the others? 42 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:41,358 Like what? 43 00:01:41,383 --> 00:01:42,978 Like the ones about about a goat. 44 00:01:43,019 --> 00:01:44,437 Goat? 45 00:01:44,437 --> 00:01:45,521 Just a rumor. 46 00:01:45,521 --> 00:01:48,107 So to recap, in conclusion, 47 00:01:48,107 --> 00:01:52,194 and furthermore, I'm not into golden showers 48 00:01:52,194 --> 00:01:55,906 and even Melania didn't believe that one. 49 00:01:55,906 --> 00:01:58,367 So anyway, thanks for coming tonight. 50 00:01:58,367 --> 00:01:59,952 I love you people. 51 00:01:59,952 --> 00:02:02,997 And don't forget to empty your wallets on the way out. 52 00:02:03,581 --> 00:02:06,334 So was that a one-off? 53 00:02:06,334 --> 00:02:07,293 Not exactly. 54 00:02:09,628 --> 00:02:11,964 And the phony Steele dossier? 55 00:02:11,964 --> 00:02:13,257 It was all phony. 56 00:02:13,257 --> 00:02:14,809 How'd you like to be me and go home 57 00:02:14,833 --> 00:02:16,385 and explain that one to my wife? 58 00:02:17,136 --> 00:02:18,596 Darling, it wasn't true. 59 00:02:18,596 --> 00:02:21,015 I swear it wasn't. 60 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:24,018 Remember that one with the hookers from Russia. 61 00:02:24,852 --> 00:02:26,645 Russia, Russia, Russia? 62 00:02:26,645 --> 00:02:28,856 How about going home to my wife on the shower, 63 00:02:28,856 --> 00:02:31,484 you know? The golden shower they called it. 64 00:02:31,484 --> 00:02:34,904 And I had to explain that to our great first lady. 65 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:37,448 This is the greatest witch hunt. 66 00:02:37,448 --> 00:02:42,119 It started with Russia, Russia, Russia. Remember that? 67 00:02:42,119 --> 00:02:43,454 He was with four hookers. 68 00:02:43,454 --> 00:02:46,165 You think that was good that night to go up and tell my wife 69 00:02:46,165 --> 00:02:48,334 it's not true darling, I love you very much. 70 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:50,044 It's not true! 71 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:51,713 Four hookers. That's interesting 72 00:02:51,754 --> 00:02:53,547 since the rumor never mentioned any number. 73 00:02:53,547 --> 00:02:55,591 Trump does protest too much. 74 00:02:55,591 --> 00:02:57,149 He keeps bringing up the pee pee tape. 75 00:02:57,174 --> 00:02:58,262 (laughs) 76 00:02:58,302 --> 00:02:59,688 When other people do stop talking 77 00:02:59,712 --> 00:03:01,097 about it, he brings it up again. 78 00:03:01,097 --> 00:03:02,795 The rumor is that there's actual 79 00:03:02,826 --> 00:03:04,524 video evidence that this happened. 80 00:03:04,558 --> 00:03:07,561 So... I've not seen the video, but I'd watch it. 81 00:03:07,703 --> 00:03:08,823 (jaunty music) 82 00:03:14,735 --> 00:03:17,714 In 2016, Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton 83 00:03:17,739 --> 00:03:19,121 to win the White House. 84 00:03:19,156 --> 00:03:21,003 The Russians interfered in that election 85 00:03:21,027 --> 00:03:22,827 on behalf of their favored candidate, 86 00:03:23,035 --> 00:03:24,245 Donald Trump. 87 00:03:24,245 --> 00:03:26,580 In the phony Steele dossier. 88 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:28,165 It was all phony. 89 00:03:28,165 --> 00:03:30,225 The Steele dossier was unvetted 90 00:03:30,249 --> 00:03:32,711 opposition research compiled in 2016, 91 00:03:33,045 --> 00:03:35,141 and it included explosive reports 92 00:03:35,165 --> 00:03:37,591 about Donald Trump and the Russians. 93 00:03:38,134 --> 00:03:41,137 And the allegation of a salacious videotape. 94 00:03:41,554 --> 00:03:44,223 Trump claims the investigation into his campaign's 95 00:03:44,223 --> 00:03:48,060 many connections to Russia was sparked by the Steele dossier. 96 00:03:48,686 --> 00:03:50,604 What do you say we fact-check that? 97 00:03:50,604 --> 00:03:52,773 The idea that the Russia investigation 98 00:03:52,773 --> 00:03:56,360 was based on the Steele dossier is just categorically false. 99 00:03:56,902 --> 00:04:00,281 There's been much talk about a man named Christopher Steele 100 00:04:01,115 --> 00:04:04,660 and a research product that he put together, 101 00:04:05,035 --> 00:04:07,788 something that's been called opposition research 102 00:04:07,788 --> 00:04:09,966 that happens all the time at high 103 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:12,168 levels when there's an election. 104 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:15,838 People, candidates looking for so-called dirt, 105 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:18,956 looking to understand vulnerabilities 106 00:04:18,980 --> 00:04:20,885 of the opposition candidate. 107 00:04:21,093 --> 00:04:25,055 So Chris Steele is a former British intelligence officer. 108 00:04:25,288 --> 00:04:26,223 He was respected. 109 00:04:26,223 --> 00:04:27,810 He was a Russian specialist 110 00:04:27,822 --> 00:04:31,079 within the British intelligence services. 111 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:33,831 And that Steele put things 112 00:04:33,856 --> 00:04:37,526 in his research product that were not substantiated 113 00:04:38,027 --> 00:04:43,532 or confirmed or accurate, has been used by Donald Trump 114 00:04:43,532 --> 00:04:49,747 and his supporters to say that therefore, the FBI investigation 115 00:04:49,747 --> 00:04:52,004 that predicated the special counsel 116 00:04:52,042 --> 00:04:54,766 investigation, all has to get thrown out. 117 00:04:55,085 --> 00:04:57,922 And what's been found is the contrary. 118 00:04:57,922 --> 00:05:01,675 It is a fallacy to say that if you successfully attack 119 00:05:01,675 --> 00:05:03,499 the Christopher Steele dossier, 120 00:05:03,523 --> 00:05:05,346 you somehow have successfully attacked 121 00:05:05,763 --> 00:05:07,065 the predication for the FBI 122 00:05:07,077 --> 00:05:08,974 investigation and then the subsequent 123 00:05:09,058 --> 00:05:11,143 special counsel investigation. 124 00:05:11,143 --> 00:05:13,812 The truth is that that's not what 125 00:05:13,812 --> 00:05:15,489 led to those investigations. 126 00:05:15,513 --> 00:05:16,899 So the investigation was opened 127 00:05:16,899 --> 00:05:18,993 at the end of July, based on this 128 00:05:19,017 --> 00:05:21,111 tip from a friendly foreign nation. 129 00:05:21,237 --> 00:05:23,145 Later in mid-September, I think 130 00:05:23,157 --> 00:05:25,324 19th, if memory serves correctly, 131 00:05:25,324 --> 00:05:28,786 we received a body of information, a series of reports 132 00:05:28,786 --> 00:05:30,151 that had been generated by an 133 00:05:30,175 --> 00:05:31,872 individual named Christopher Steele. 134 00:05:32,248 --> 00:05:34,221 Now, again, the important fact is that's 135 00:05:34,245 --> 00:05:36,168 not what generated the investigation. 136 00:05:36,335 --> 00:05:38,045 The investigation was up and running. 137 00:05:38,045 --> 00:05:39,129 The bulk of Mueller's 138 00:05:39,129 --> 00:05:41,021 efforts and prosecutions made no use 139 00:05:41,045 --> 00:05:42,883 of the Steele dossier whatsoever. 140 00:05:42,925 --> 00:05:43,676 This is somebody 141 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:45,063 that had had an established 142 00:05:45,087 --> 00:05:47,096 relationship and had and was respected. 143 00:05:47,346 --> 00:05:49,461 So having that information come in 144 00:05:49,485 --> 00:05:51,600 again, it's a very reasonable thing, 145 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,603 I think, for the FBI to take a look at and say, all right, 146 00:05:54,603 --> 00:05:55,938 you're providing this information. 147 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:58,190 We'll take a look at it and we'll try and figure out 148 00:05:58,190 --> 00:06:01,193 whether or not it's accurate and actionable or not. 149 00:06:01,610 --> 00:06:03,572 My opinion on the Steele dossier is 150 00:06:03,596 --> 00:06:05,906 that it's valuable as raw intelligence, 151 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,787 just as if we obtained unverified information 152 00:06:11,787 --> 00:06:14,585 about a terrorist group, for example, 153 00:06:14,609 --> 00:06:17,251 from sources in a terrorist cell. 154 00:06:17,251 --> 00:06:20,509 We'd want the FBI and the intelligence 155 00:06:20,533 --> 00:06:23,173 community to follow up to see 156 00:06:23,173 --> 00:06:25,584 what is actually true or not, 157 00:06:25,608 --> 00:06:28,387 what might be borne out and provide leads. 158 00:06:28,387 --> 00:06:32,266 And I think that that's what the FBI did with that information. 159 00:06:32,725 --> 00:06:34,872 In January of 2017, BuzzFeed 160 00:06:34,884 --> 00:06:37,813 published the Steele dossier online. 161 00:06:38,163 --> 00:06:39,203 (tense music) 162 00:06:40,149 --> 00:06:41,483 This is the greatest witch hunt. 163 00:06:41,483 --> 00:06:44,278 It started with Russia, Russia, Russia. 164 00:06:44,278 --> 00:06:45,779 Remember that? 165 00:06:45,779 --> 00:06:47,846 All counterintelligence investigations 166 00:06:47,870 --> 00:06:49,825 require what's called predication. 167 00:06:50,159 --> 00:06:52,510 And what that means is that there 168 00:06:52,522 --> 00:06:54,538 have to be articulable facts 169 00:06:54,538 --> 00:06:57,541 that there is a threat to national security. 170 00:06:57,791 --> 00:07:01,587 And the predication in the case of the Russia investigation 171 00:07:01,837 --> 00:07:06,342 was intelligence provided to the United States by Australia, 172 00:07:06,718 --> 00:07:08,720 indicating that Russia might be 173 00:07:08,756 --> 00:07:12,640 trying to use weaponized information 174 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,643 in order to interfere in the 2016 election. 175 00:07:20,105 --> 00:07:22,066 In the midst of all that activity, 176 00:07:22,066 --> 00:07:24,318 a friendly foreign government saw, 177 00:07:24,318 --> 00:07:26,701 and certainly former President Trump, then 178 00:07:26,725 --> 00:07:28,989 candidate Trump, was making statements 179 00:07:28,989 --> 00:07:31,575 pointing to this activity and talking about all the things 180 00:07:31,575 --> 00:07:33,661 that were being disclosed through these leaks. 181 00:07:33,661 --> 00:07:35,672 And in the midst of all this activity, 182 00:07:35,696 --> 00:07:37,706 in late July, a friendly foreign nation 183 00:07:37,915 --> 00:07:41,043 recalled a meeting that they had had earlier in the spring 184 00:07:41,043 --> 00:07:42,474 with a Trump campaign adviser 185 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:44,715 a named campaign adviser with that, 186 00:07:44,755 --> 00:07:46,994 and whose name was George Papadopoulos, 187 00:07:47,018 --> 00:07:48,842 and that Papadopoulos had told 188 00:07:48,842 --> 00:07:51,637 this representative of a friendly foreign nation 189 00:07:51,637 --> 00:07:53,606 that the Trump campaign had received an 190 00:07:53,630 --> 00:07:55,599 offer of assistance from the Russians, 191 00:07:55,599 --> 00:07:59,436 saying that they had information that would be damaging to both 192 00:07:59,436 --> 00:08:02,398 then President Obama and Hillary Clinton, and that they offered 193 00:08:02,398 --> 00:08:05,401 to release it in a way that would help the Trump campaign. 194 00:08:05,567 --> 00:08:07,599 And so at the time, in the early spring, 195 00:08:07,623 --> 00:08:09,655 they didn't make much of that statement, 196 00:08:09,655 --> 00:08:12,074 didn't know whether or not it was a boast or not. 197 00:08:12,074 --> 00:08:14,368 But then when that actually started happening, 198 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:15,934 when this information that was 199 00:08:15,958 --> 00:08:17,788 helpful to Trump was being released 200 00:08:17,996 --> 00:08:21,208 and Trump was picking it up and amplifying it, they recalled 201 00:08:21,208 --> 00:08:22,802 and put two and two together and said, 202 00:08:22,826 --> 00:08:24,420 well, wait a minute, what is going on 203 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:26,264 now is exactly what Papadopoulos sort 204 00:08:26,288 --> 00:08:28,132 of told us about earlier in the spring. 205 00:08:28,924 --> 00:08:31,510 The case that was open, we called Crossfire Hurricane 206 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:33,095 and I'm a big Rolling Stones fan, 207 00:08:33,095 --> 00:08:36,432 and so I was listening to Jumpin' Jack Flash at the time. 208 00:08:36,432 --> 00:08:43,272 ♪ I was born in a crossfire hurricane ♪ 209 00:08:43,272 --> 00:08:45,357 And that was, you know, kind of in the background, 210 00:08:45,357 --> 00:08:47,014 I was trying to think about what to 211 00:08:47,038 --> 00:08:48,694 name the case, and it seemed like 212 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:50,433 I didn't understand how appropriate 213 00:08:50,445 --> 00:08:51,905 it would really end up being. 214 00:08:51,905 --> 00:08:53,791 But that was just kind of a spur 215 00:08:53,815 --> 00:08:55,701 of the moment naming of the case. 216 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:59,455 And again, the case was opened, not on just George Papadopoulos, 217 00:08:59,455 --> 00:09:02,541 but broadly on the suggestion, because Papadopoulos didn't say 218 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:04,460 I received this information. 219 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:06,295 He said somebody on the campaign had. 220 00:09:06,295 --> 00:09:08,213 So the question was, you know, it's what's called that, 221 00:09:08,213 --> 00:09:11,884 you know, an unknown subject. We don't know one, if that's true, 222 00:09:12,176 --> 00:09:13,260 but you know, it 223 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:15,095 given that Papadopoulos was a named 224 00:09:15,119 --> 00:09:17,389 advisor to Trump, you know, Trump himself 225 00:09:17,389 --> 00:09:18,879 named him when he was asked, hey, you 226 00:09:18,903 --> 00:09:20,392 know who's on your foreign policy team? 227 00:09:20,434 --> 00:09:21,977 Trump identified Papadopoulos. 228 00:09:21,977 --> 00:09:23,979 This wasn't despite Trump's later statement 229 00:09:23,979 --> 00:09:26,523 that, you know, Papadopoulos was some coffee boy. 230 00:09:26,523 --> 00:09:28,098 The fact of the matter was, when asked 231 00:09:28,122 --> 00:09:29,568 by, I think, the Washington Post, 232 00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:31,987 who is your foreign policy team? 233 00:09:31,987 --> 00:09:33,769 Trump reeled off a bunch of names, 234 00:09:33,793 --> 00:09:35,574 which included George Papadopoulos. 235 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:37,159 If you want, I could give you some of the names. 236 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:38,494 I would be delighted. 237 00:09:39,453 --> 00:09:41,914 George Papadopoulos. 238 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:44,625 He's an oil and energy consultant. 239 00:09:44,625 --> 00:09:46,001 Excellent guy. 240 00:09:46,001 --> 00:09:48,879 So opening the case, opening Crossfire Hurricane, 241 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:50,214 the goal of that investigation 242 00:09:50,214 --> 00:09:53,967 was to figure out okay, did in fact, this offer take place? 243 00:09:54,384 --> 00:09:55,928 Who received that offer? 244 00:09:55,928 --> 00:09:59,306 And then, as importantly, if they heard that offer, 245 00:09:59,306 --> 00:10:01,678 did anybody on the campaign then take action 246 00:10:01,702 --> 00:10:04,019 to follow up on that offer of assistance? 247 00:10:04,186 --> 00:10:06,688 A lot of people, you know, in the sort of 248 00:10:08,023 --> 00:10:09,554 popular discussion, certainly from 249 00:10:09,578 --> 00:10:11,109 opponents of the investigation, 250 00:10:11,109 --> 00:10:12,891 was that the FBI was going after Trump 251 00:10:12,915 --> 00:10:14,696 and that absolutely wasn't the case. 252 00:10:14,988 --> 00:10:17,074 We opened this very specific case on this one 253 00:10:17,074 --> 00:10:20,911 particular allegation to find out who a person or people were 254 00:10:20,911 --> 00:10:23,249 that might have received this information 255 00:10:23,273 --> 00:10:25,082 or offer of assistance or not. 256 00:10:25,623 --> 00:10:27,384 All of these things kind of come to a head when 257 00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:31,064 he takes that affirmative step to fire Comey, 258 00:10:31,089 --> 00:10:33,258 certainly in a way that is designed 259 00:10:33,298 --> 00:10:36,301 or appears to be designed, to stop these investigations. 260 00:10:36,718 --> 00:10:37,886 So, two things happen. 261 00:10:37,886 --> 00:10:40,931 One, that is, you know, a very strong indication 262 00:10:40,931 --> 00:10:42,442 or an allegation of obstruction, 263 00:10:42,466 --> 00:10:43,976 that he was doing that potentially 264 00:10:44,309 --> 00:10:47,312 in a manner designed to obstruct the investigation of him. 265 00:10:47,437 --> 00:10:49,115 And then two, that gives a question, 266 00:10:49,139 --> 00:10:50,816 because all of this related to Russia, 267 00:10:51,392 --> 00:10:53,377 what is the counterintelligence threat there 268 00:10:53,565 --> 00:10:56,488 between Trump and Russia? 269 00:10:56,488 --> 00:10:58,365 And of course, what's one of the first things he did? 270 00:10:58,365 --> 00:11:00,701 He has Ambassador Kislyak, Russian ambassador, 271 00:11:00,701 --> 00:11:02,218 he has Sergey Lavrov,at the time, 272 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:03,579 the Russian foreign minister, 273 00:11:03,579 --> 00:11:06,540 in the Oval Office, and is bragging to them, 274 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:09,585 I just fired Comey. Took a huge weight off my shoulders. 275 00:11:09,585 --> 00:11:13,171 There are a lot of connections to Russia that were concerning, 276 00:11:13,171 --> 00:11:14,673 and there was sort of an ongoing debate. 277 00:11:14,673 --> 00:11:16,822 I mean, you get to a point where the 278 00:11:16,846 --> 00:11:19,303 threshold to open a case is fairly low. 279 00:11:19,303 --> 00:11:21,388 That doesn't mean you necessarily open it. 280 00:11:21,388 --> 00:11:22,964 And there were some on the team that 281 00:11:22,988 --> 00:11:24,474 were arguing that we should open 282 00:11:24,474 --> 00:11:27,303 a case on Trump earlier than we did, 283 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,129 earlier than Comey's firing. 284 00:11:29,187 --> 00:11:30,188 You know, I was against it. 285 00:11:30,188 --> 00:11:32,399 I mean, there any number of real significant 286 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,493 policy questions, legal questions, 287 00:11:34,505 --> 00:11:36,069 constitutional questions. 288 00:11:36,069 --> 00:11:39,865 And so for all of those reasons, I was very hesitant and reticent 289 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:44,161 to go down the path of opening the case on Trump, the person. 290 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,996 The firing of 291 00:11:45,996 --> 00:11:47,845 FBI Director James Comey led to 292 00:11:47,857 --> 00:11:49,958 the appointment of Robert Mueller 293 00:11:49,958 --> 00:11:53,337 as special counsel to lead the Russia investigation. 294 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:56,773 The Mueller team found 295 00:11:56,798 --> 00:11:59,927 that Russia's operations were systematic and widespread. 296 00:11:59,927 --> 00:12:03,388 So Russian interference and attempts to aid 297 00:12:03,388 --> 00:12:08,143 candidate Donald Trump have been well-established. 298 00:12:08,143 --> 00:12:11,146 If people will simply read 299 00:12:11,146 --> 00:12:14,508 and open their minds to certain findings, both in 300 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:19,071 Robert Mueller’s special counsel report, 400 some odd pages, 301 00:12:19,071 --> 00:12:23,158 and then even in the Senate Intelligence Committee report, 302 00:12:23,158 --> 00:12:27,996 which at the time was chaired by a Republican. 303 00:12:27,996 --> 00:12:30,195 So in 2016, the United States was pretty 304 00:12:30,219 --> 00:12:32,417 much asleep to the fact that the Russians 305 00:12:32,417 --> 00:12:35,887 were using disinformation as a weapon 306 00:12:35,911 --> 00:12:39,091 to sow discord and polarization. 307 00:12:39,091 --> 00:12:40,873 So the Russians really had free rein to 308 00:12:40,897 --> 00:12:42,678 do what they wanted in the United States. 309 00:12:42,678 --> 00:12:44,972 And they went about it a couple of different ways. 310 00:12:44,972 --> 00:12:47,975 Their biggest campaign was through social media, 311 00:12:47,975 --> 00:12:50,727 to mask their social media accounts 312 00:12:50,727 --> 00:12:53,772 as trying to be Americans. The I.R.A. 313 00:12:53,772 --> 00:12:56,984 or the Russian proxy organization 314 00:12:56,984 --> 00:12:59,347 was prominent in that space, running 315 00:12:59,371 --> 00:13:01,530 bots and trolls to kind of suck 316 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:05,367 in Americans to their point of view and enhance polarization. 317 00:13:05,367 --> 00:13:07,411 So one is social media campaign. 318 00:13:07,411 --> 00:13:10,789 The second is they were doing hack and release operations. 319 00:13:10,789 --> 00:13:13,008 So if you've ever heard of Guccifer 320 00:13:13,032 --> 00:13:15,711 2.0, that is a Russian hacking operation 321 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:19,131 by the GRU to grab information and selectively 322 00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:21,422 leak it again to enhance polarization 323 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:23,010 within the United States. 324 00:13:23,427 --> 00:13:27,347 And lastly, they were hacking into voter databases 325 00:13:27,347 --> 00:13:31,852 and gathering huge amounts of data rolls. 326 00:13:31,852 --> 00:13:34,354 There was concern at the time that that information 327 00:13:34,354 --> 00:13:35,886 was going to be used to actually disrupt 328 00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:37,441 the physical infrastructure of the vote. 329 00:13:38,859 --> 00:13:39,818 People would claim 330 00:13:39,818 --> 00:13:44,781 that there was no really Russian influence operations in 2016. 331 00:13:44,781 --> 00:13:47,784 That I find to be astounding, that people would repeat that. 332 00:13:49,419 --> 00:13:51,631 For a while, people and still do 333 00:13:51,671 --> 00:13:53,307 say that there was no impact, right? 334 00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:54,307 Like you cannot prove 335 00:13:54,332 --> 00:13:56,093 that the Russians changed a vote or 336 00:13:56,117 --> 00:13:57,878 someone's mind in the United States. 337 00:13:58,795 --> 00:14:02,966 I think as kind of the research behind this has continued, 338 00:14:02,966 --> 00:14:06,511 and people have looked at this and serious professionals, 339 00:14:06,511 --> 00:14:09,181 I think, across whether they're in government, academia 340 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:11,433 or the private sector, no longer believe 341 00:14:11,457 --> 00:14:13,477 that this is not a serious threat. 342 00:14:13,477 --> 00:14:16,063 And it was a serious threat in 2016. 343 00:14:16,063 --> 00:14:18,296 And the Russian influence operations 344 00:14:18,308 --> 00:14:20,067 have some level of influence 345 00:14:20,067 --> 00:14:21,735 within the United States. 346 00:14:21,735 --> 00:14:24,488 And so the special counsel investigation 347 00:14:24,488 --> 00:14:29,743 actually ended up indicting two dozen Russians. 348 00:14:29,743 --> 00:14:32,442 Twelve of those Russians were actual 349 00:14:32,466 --> 00:14:35,165 card-carrying Russian intelligence 350 00:14:35,165 --> 00:14:37,166 officers with the Russian military 351 00:14:37,178 --> 00:14:38,960 intelligence service, the GRU. 352 00:14:39,169 --> 00:14:40,796 Well, good afternoon. 353 00:14:40,796 --> 00:14:43,632 Today, a grand jury in the District of Columbia 354 00:14:43,632 --> 00:14:47,636 returned an indictment presented by the special counsel's office. 355 00:14:47,636 --> 00:14:49,431 The indictment charges 12 356 00:14:49,443 --> 00:14:51,973 Russian military officers by name 357 00:14:51,973 --> 00:14:57,604 for conspiring to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. 358 00:14:57,604 --> 00:14:58,897 Eleven of the defendants 359 00:14:58,897 --> 00:15:02,359 are charged with conspiring to hack into computers, 360 00:15:02,359 --> 00:15:05,862 steal documents, and release those documents 361 00:15:05,862 --> 00:15:09,658 with the intent to interfere in the election. 362 00:15:09,658 --> 00:15:13,495 One of those defendants and a 12th Russian military officer 363 00:15:13,495 --> 00:15:16,915 are charged with conspiring to infiltrate computers 364 00:15:16,915 --> 00:15:19,918 of organizations involved in administering elections. 365 00:15:19,918 --> 00:15:24,047 So when people say, to me, well, the Russian, 366 00:15:24,047 --> 00:15:25,985 the investigation into Russian influence 367 00:15:25,997 --> 00:15:27,509 in the campaign found nothing, 368 00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:30,971 I say you haven't read the reports. 369 00:15:30,971 --> 00:15:34,808 You're listening only to one source of news and information, 370 00:15:34,808 --> 00:15:38,395 and it's a flawed source of news and information. 371 00:15:38,395 --> 00:15:40,126 The Internet Research Agency is 372 00:15:40,138 --> 00:15:42,274 located in Saint Petersburg, Russia. 373 00:15:42,481 --> 00:15:43,521 (tense music) 374 00:15:44,818 --> 00:15:47,529 And they spent millions before 2016 375 00:15:47,529 --> 00:15:49,673 through 2016 and quite frankly, 376 00:15:49,685 --> 00:15:51,783 have reconstituted themselves twice over 377 00:15:51,783 --> 00:15:55,662 really the same organization still within Saint Petersburg. 378 00:15:55,662 --> 00:15:57,956 And so pre-2016, 379 00:15:57,956 --> 00:16:02,043 they ran a notorious and well-documented troll farm 380 00:16:02,043 --> 00:16:05,672 where they were basically paying employees to, 381 00:16:05,672 --> 00:16:07,090 they had a quota system where they had to, 382 00:16:07,090 --> 00:16:10,093 put out so many tweets and other kind of posts 383 00:16:10,093 --> 00:16:12,846 from a kind of select menu that were all designed 384 00:16:12,846 --> 00:16:14,836 of things that they were looking to cause 385 00:16:14,848 --> 00:16:16,850 polarization in the United States, right? 386 00:16:16,850 --> 00:16:20,896 And the people that are really behind it, which is the GRU 387 00:16:20,896 --> 00:16:23,440 and oligarchs that help set this up, 388 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,151 they're all still operating there largely with impunity. 389 00:16:26,151 --> 00:16:28,320 And they really have never stopped. 390 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,363 Sometimes they’ve moved their operations, 391 00:16:30,363 --> 00:16:32,908 or at least it appeared so, outside of Russia, 392 00:16:32,908 --> 00:16:34,784 and they set up in third countries. 393 00:16:34,784 --> 00:16:35,619 But this is a, 394 00:16:35,619 --> 00:16:38,163 this is a low cost way that they don’t 395 00:16:38,175 --> 00:16:40,665 feel much pain from the United States 396 00:16:40,665 --> 00:16:41,712 or the international community 397 00:16:41,724 --> 00:16:42,959 as to why to stop. So they don't. 398 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:44,878 So that's why they're back in Saint Petersburg 399 00:16:44,878 --> 00:16:46,463 and they just keep changing their names. 400 00:16:46,463 --> 00:16:48,851 There's been some some great journalistic 401 00:16:48,863 --> 00:16:50,634 work that's come out recently. 402 00:16:50,927 --> 00:16:53,618 According to a New York Times article just came out recently, 403 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,182 you know, the Russians spent about 300 million since 2014. 404 00:16:57,182 --> 00:17:01,436 Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find 405 00:17:01,436 --> 00:17:06,024 the 30,000 emails that are missing. 406 00:17:06,024 --> 00:17:10,445 I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. 407 00:17:10,445 --> 00:17:12,593 Wikileaks. Wikileaks. Wikileaks. 408 00:17:12,605 --> 00:17:14,574 It just came out on Wikileaks. 409 00:17:14,574 --> 00:17:15,784 What we know 410 00:17:15,784 --> 00:17:18,441 is that the Russian intelligence service, 411 00:17:18,453 --> 00:17:21,122 and again, documented through indictments 412 00:17:21,122 --> 00:17:23,792 through both the Senate Intelligence Committee reporting 413 00:17:23,792 --> 00:17:25,723 and the special counsel reporting, and 414 00:17:25,735 --> 00:17:27,629 indictments, the Russian intelligence 415 00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:32,092 service went about getting their hands on emails 416 00:17:32,092 --> 00:17:37,276 out of servers at the Democratic National Committee headquarters, 417 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:43,281 emails between Hillary Clinton and other campaign officials. 418 00:17:43,353 --> 00:17:46,648 And then those very emails in the possession of the Russian 419 00:17:46,648 --> 00:17:49,609 intelligence service ended up 420 00:17:49,609 --> 00:17:52,654 in the hands of an organization called Wikileaks. 421 00:17:52,654 --> 00:17:54,187 Wikileaks was an organization 422 00:17:54,199 --> 00:17:56,116 that, connected to Julian Assange, 423 00:17:56,116 --> 00:17:59,286 who started out as sort of an information clearinghouse 424 00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:00,787 is how they styled themselves, 425 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:02,664 where people who are whistleblowers 426 00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:05,959 or information that had been, you know, obtained, stolen, 427 00:18:05,959 --> 00:18:07,972 you know, turned over by a whistleblower 428 00:18:07,984 --> 00:18:09,713 that, you know, allegedly to point 429 00:18:09,713 --> 00:18:13,675 the public eye at alleged malfeasance or bad acts 430 00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:15,334 by various governments, that they would 431 00:18:15,346 --> 00:18:16,845 serve as a clearinghouse for that. 432 00:18:16,845 --> 00:18:19,639 But having said that, they ended up publishing 433 00:18:19,639 --> 00:18:23,435 a great deal of information that was stolen by Russian actors. 434 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,081 The question of how stolen emails, 435 00:18:26,093 --> 00:18:28,481 hacked emails and communications 436 00:18:28,481 --> 00:18:31,395 ended up going from the Russian intelligence service 437 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:33,560 to Wikileaks 438 00:18:33,695 --> 00:18:37,490 and then ultimately distributed by Wikileaks, in perfect 439 00:18:37,490 --> 00:18:42,078 timing to aid Donald Trump at key times, 440 00:18:42,078 --> 00:18:46,291 is a fascinating story and fascinating question. 441 00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:50,170 But we know that someone by the name of Roger Stone, 442 00:18:50,170 --> 00:18:53,673 very close advisor, associate of the president, 443 00:18:54,257 --> 00:18:57,594 appeared to have knowledge, claimed himself 444 00:18:57,594 --> 00:19:00,388 to have knowledge of what Wikileaks was doing. 445 00:19:00,388 --> 00:19:04,976 Even Donald Trump Jr appeared to have contact 446 00:19:04,976 --> 00:19:08,480 with and knowledge of what Wikileaks was doing. 447 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:10,857 We even have a report - 448 00:19:10,857 --> 00:19:15,028 this is coming from the Mueller investigation - that 449 00:19:15,028 --> 00:19:19,282 an associate of Donald Trump is riding with Donald Trump. 450 00:19:19,282 --> 00:19:22,243 Rick, this is Rick Gates, they're riding in a limo 451 00:19:22,243 --> 00:19:24,913 to LaGuardia Airport. 452 00:19:24,913 --> 00:19:28,583 Donald Trump takes a phone call 453 00:19:28,583 --> 00:19:30,585 and Gates can hear that 454 00:19:30,585 --> 00:19:31,920 end of the call. 455 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,296 Trump hangs up, 456 00:19:33,296 --> 00:19:35,715 and Trump says something like this to Gates: 457 00:19:35,715 --> 00:19:37,258 there's going to be another release. 458 00:19:37,258 --> 00:19:39,427 You know, there's going to be another Wikileaks release. 459 00:19:39,427 --> 00:19:41,104 Now, it's believed that the person on the 460 00:19:41,129 --> 00:19:43,626 other end of that phone was Roger Stone, 461 00:19:43,808 --> 00:19:46,440 conveying to Donald Trump 462 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:49,550 that Wikileaks was about to release 463 00:19:49,562 --> 00:19:52,982 another tranche of stolen communications 464 00:19:52,982 --> 00:19:55,616 - stolen by the Russian intelligence service, 465 00:19:55,808 --> 00:19:57,987 acquired by Wikileaks - 466 00:19:57,987 --> 00:20:00,990 and that this was going to aid the campaign. 467 00:20:00,990 --> 00:20:03,076 And the absurd thing is Trump at some point in time said, well, 468 00:20:03,076 --> 00:20:04,869 I have no idea what Wikileaks is, which is, 469 00:20:04,869 --> 00:20:06,621 you know, again, you go back and you look at the tapes 470 00:20:06,621 --> 00:20:09,124 of his campaign events again and again and again, 471 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:11,324 he was talking about how magnificent Wikileaks is, 472 00:20:11,335 --> 00:20:13,062 and they're wonderful, and the truth is coming out. 473 00:20:13,087 --> 00:20:14,759 Do you still love Wikileaks? 474 00:20:15,755 --> 00:20:17,424 I know nothing about Wikileaks. 475 00:20:17,424 --> 00:20:18,716 It's not my thing. 476 00:20:18,716 --> 00:20:23,346 Various news organizations noted how absurd Trump's claim was. 477 00:20:23,346 --> 00:20:27,016 Wikileaks! Wikileaks! I love Wikileaks! 478 00:20:27,016 --> 00:20:28,184 These Wikileaks. 479 00:20:28,184 --> 00:20:30,478 It's been amazing what's coming out on Wikileaks. 480 00:20:30,478 --> 00:20:31,771 The wonder of Wikileaks. 481 00:20:31,771 --> 00:20:34,232 Wikileaks has done a job on her, hasn't it? 482 00:20:34,232 --> 00:20:35,733 We love Wikileaks. 483 00:20:35,733 --> 00:20:37,379 Boy, they have really... Wikileaks. 484 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:39,431 Wikileaks. Wikileaks. 485 00:20:39,587 --> 00:20:42,841 The Wikileaks revelations. Wikileaks. 486 00:20:42,866 --> 00:20:44,467 Wikileaks. Right? Wikileaks. 487 00:20:44,492 --> 00:20:46,828 This Wikileaks is like a treasure trove. 488 00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:49,150 And so it's clear, one, that he was well 489 00:20:49,162 --> 00:20:51,666 aware of Wikileaks, that he was pushing it. 490 00:20:51,666 --> 00:20:53,092 And again, not just pushing 491 00:20:53,104 --> 00:20:55,128 Wikileaks, he is pushing information 492 00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:57,495 about his opponent that had been 493 00:20:57,507 --> 00:21:00,258 stolen by a hostile foreign nation. 494 00:21:00,258 --> 00:21:02,394 And then it had been provided ultimately 495 00:21:02,406 --> 00:21:04,345 to Wikileaks, who was publishing it. 496 00:21:04,345 --> 00:21:07,682 So he essentially is not only pointing to the stolen material, 497 00:21:07,682 --> 00:21:12,020 but encouraging this action by a hostile state actor 498 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:14,606 to help himself get elected. 499 00:21:14,606 --> 00:21:17,817 Do you still love Wikileaks? 500 00:21:17,817 --> 00:21:19,486 I know nothing about Wikileaks. 501 00:21:19,486 --> 00:21:20,904 It's not my thing. 502 00:21:20,904 --> 00:21:22,517 It's not my deal in life. 503 00:21:29,037 --> 00:21:32,040 Alright, so after our long national nightmare, 504 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,835 my handpicked attorney general says I'm in the clear. 505 00:21:35,835 --> 00:21:36,544 That's right. 506 00:21:36,544 --> 00:21:39,005 No collusion. None. Zippo. 507 00:21:39,005 --> 00:21:40,715 Zilch. Nada. 508 00:21:40,715 --> 00:21:43,343 Barr says it's right there in the Mueller report. 509 00:21:43,343 --> 00:21:45,178 Couple of years, thousands of pages. 510 00:21:45,178 --> 00:21:47,847 Guy reads it over the weekend. Gotta love him. 511 00:21:47,847 --> 00:21:49,015 No collusion. 512 00:21:49,015 --> 00:21:50,943 If by collusion, you mean me writing 513 00:21:50,955 --> 00:21:52,894 code for Russian government hackers. 514 00:21:52,894 --> 00:21:55,396 Didn't happen. Just ask Mueller. 515 00:21:55,396 --> 00:22:00,041 This is all been one big witch hunt that has turned up nothing. 516 00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:01,879 Except my campaign chair, 517 00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:03,755 personal lawyer, deputy campaign chair, 518 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:05,049 national security adviser, 519 00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:06,743 foreign policy advisor, strategists 520 00:22:06,781 --> 00:22:08,493 and a couple dozen Russians. 521 00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:10,828 But other than that, nothing! 522 00:22:10,828 --> 00:22:12,867 Now I can get back to work and shoot 523 00:22:12,879 --> 00:22:15,041 someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. 524 00:22:15,291 --> 00:22:18,524 Robert Mueller found multiple instances 525 00:22:18,536 --> 00:22:21,214 of collusion, but he didn't find 526 00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:25,802 that they rose to the definition of a criminal conspiracy. 527 00:22:25,969 --> 00:22:28,555 And this distinction is very important. 528 00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:32,308 Collusion doesn't have a legal meaning 529 00:22:32,308 --> 00:22:36,521 outside of very specific arenas like antitrust law. 530 00:22:36,552 --> 00:22:39,138 But what we think of when we think of collusion 531 00:22:39,275 --> 00:22:41,543 is secret contacts. 532 00:22:41,568 --> 00:22:46,906 An agreement to engage in sort of a covert behavior 533 00:22:46,906 --> 00:22:49,533 to a mutually desired outcome. 534 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:53,162 Criminal conspiracy is a much higher bar. 535 00:22:53,162 --> 00:22:55,844 It requires an explicit agreement, 536 00:22:55,869 --> 00:22:56,874 which you normally wouldn't 537 00:22:56,874 --> 00:22:59,255 find in an intelligence operation 538 00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:02,362 to commit an underlying crime. 539 00:23:02,505 --> 00:23:06,301 And on this front, it became very difficult, 540 00:23:06,301 --> 00:23:10,555 given both the nature of the contacts that were happening and 541 00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:12,792 also the fact that there was obstruction 542 00:23:12,804 --> 00:23:14,559 involved in this investigation, 543 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,562 for Mueller to really reach that 544 00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:21,482 high threshold for a criminal indictment. 545 00:23:21,482 --> 00:23:24,611 When you are looking at counterintelligence operations, 546 00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:26,874 not everything that a foreign 547 00:23:26,886 --> 00:23:29,866 adversary is doing might be a crime. 548 00:23:29,866 --> 00:23:31,337 But that doesn't mean that it's 549 00:23:31,349 --> 00:23:33,119 not dangerous to national security. 550 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,956 And so, yes, the level of contacts, 551 00:23:36,956 --> 00:23:41,419 information sharing and coordination between 552 00:23:41,419 --> 00:23:43,388 Russia and members of the Trump campaign 553 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,381 were dangerous to our national security. 554 00:23:45,381 --> 00:23:48,326 But by looking at it only through this 555 00:23:48,338 --> 00:23:51,220 criminal lens, we essentially created 556 00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:54,474 an out for people to claim that this was 557 00:23:54,474 --> 00:23:57,101 not actually dangerous behavior. 558 00:23:57,101 --> 00:23:59,312 With a so-called four page summary, 559 00:23:59,312 --> 00:24:03,816 he held a press conference so that he could shape the report. 560 00:24:03,816 --> 00:24:07,737 And if you really pick apart every word and line 561 00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:11,157 in that four page summary and in that press conference, 562 00:24:11,157 --> 00:24:14,410 you've got an attorney general who is deceiving 563 00:24:14,410 --> 00:24:16,457 the United States about a special 564 00:24:16,469 --> 00:24:18,831 counsel investigation and the results. 565 00:24:18,831 --> 00:24:22,293 So, for example, he claimed in that summary that 566 00:24:22,293 --> 00:24:26,422 there was no collusion found with Russia. 567 00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:28,591 Well, that's simply not the case. 568 00:24:28,591 --> 00:24:31,299 The truth is that Bob Mueller did not 569 00:24:31,311 --> 00:24:34,490 find something called criminal conspiracy, right? 570 00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:36,847 The ability to say this candidate 571 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:39,185 knew precisely that he was dealing 572 00:24:39,185 --> 00:24:42,588 with the Russian government and broke 573 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,566 a violation and violated US laws 574 00:24:45,566 --> 00:24:49,278 in a large conspiracy involving others. 575 00:24:49,278 --> 00:24:52,281 True, criminal conspiracy not found, 576 00:24:52,281 --> 00:24:56,119 but collusion with Russia was rampant. 577 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,040 And there's a hundred or more contacts 578 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,951 that were found between his campaign 579 00:25:03,963 --> 00:25:06,254 staff and Russian officials, 580 00:25:06,254 --> 00:25:09,257 or people representing Russian interests. 581 00:25:09,465 --> 00:25:12,510 A hundred or more contacts. 582 00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:14,512 That is collusion, 583 00:25:14,512 --> 00:25:17,098 even though it may not be criminal conspiracy. 584 00:25:17,098 --> 00:25:18,601 I think the most important takeaway from 585 00:25:18,613 --> 00:25:20,017 everything that happened with Mueller 586 00:25:20,017 --> 00:25:22,049 is the broad scope of activity, 587 00:25:22,143 --> 00:25:24,313 illegal activity that occurred on the one 588 00:25:24,313 --> 00:25:26,014 hand by the government of Russia and 589 00:25:26,026 --> 00:25:27,692 agents of the government of Russia. 590 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:30,862 You know, indictments against the Internet Research Agency 591 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,822 and several of the players in and around that. 592 00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:36,993 But then also, when you look at the people in and around Trump's 593 00:25:36,993 --> 00:25:41,372 circle, both as a candidate and then later as the president. 594 00:25:41,372 --> 00:25:43,728 There were guilty pleas and convictions 595 00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:45,752 of his national security adviser, 596 00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:49,217 his campaign manager, his deputy campaign manager, 597 00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:52,928 his informal fixer, his personal attorney and the 598 00:25:52,947 --> 00:25:55,094 list just goes, you know, a foreign policy advisor. 599 00:25:55,094 --> 00:25:56,888 The list goes on and on and on. 600 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:58,931 And these weren't allegations. 601 00:25:58,931 --> 00:26:01,058 These were people who broke the law. 602 00:26:01,058 --> 00:26:04,687 Charges were brought and were found or pled guilty. 603 00:26:04,687 --> 00:26:06,606 So there's no question, there's no ambiguity. 604 00:26:06,606 --> 00:26:07,940 These people got up and said yes. 605 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:09,576 At some point in time, they were either 606 00:26:09,588 --> 00:26:11,235 convicted or pled guilty to saying yes, 607 00:26:11,235 --> 00:26:13,434 I violated the law. And all these 608 00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:15,656 things in some way, shape or form 609 00:26:15,656 --> 00:26:17,446 had elements involving connections 610 00:26:17,458 --> 00:26:18,951 to the government of Russia. 611 00:26:18,951 --> 00:26:20,259 You know, certainly there are the 612 00:26:20,271 --> 00:26:21,746 actions of one, you know, an attorney 613 00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:24,957 in the FBI who had changed an email in the course of, 614 00:26:24,957 --> 00:26:26,617 you know, pursuing one particular 615 00:26:26,629 --> 00:26:28,252 FISA with regard to Carter Page. 616 00:26:28,252 --> 00:26:29,946 But again, Carter Page was a tiny 617 00:26:29,958 --> 00:26:31,464 little sliver of all of this. 618 00:26:31,464 --> 00:26:35,885 All these broad looks conclusively determined, 619 00:26:35,885 --> 00:26:40,056 even by partisan actors, trying to find information, 620 00:26:40,056 --> 00:26:43,351 came up with no evidence that there was something that 621 00:26:43,351 --> 00:26:46,646 was improper in the context of any of these investigations. 622 00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:49,524 Bill Barr is a liar, and I don't say that lightly. 623 00:26:49,524 --> 00:26:51,776 I grew up as a lawyer. Now I'm in media. 624 00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:53,736 You don't lightly call someone a liar. 625 00:26:53,736 --> 00:26:56,614 Maybe you say it nicer. You say he misstated the truth. 626 00:26:56,614 --> 00:26:58,658 But when I went through Bill Barr's record, 627 00:26:58,658 --> 00:27:00,815 there were so many instances of him 628 00:27:00,827 --> 00:27:02,995 not just sort of fudging the truth. 629 00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:04,288 Yes, there were plenty of those. 630 00:27:04,288 --> 00:27:07,625 Or coming up with implausible explanations, 631 00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:10,061 but just outright lying to Congress, 632 00:27:10,073 --> 00:27:12,588 to the media, to the American public. 633 00:27:12,588 --> 00:27:13,714 And I couldn't ignore it. 634 00:27:13,714 --> 00:27:17,051 And so I felt like, this was one of those extreme situations 635 00:27:17,051 --> 00:27:19,178 where it was merited to call somebody a liar. 636 00:27:19,178 --> 00:27:22,181 Barr announced that there was no collusion 637 00:27:22,181 --> 00:27:23,766 and that Mueller had found the same. 638 00:27:23,766 --> 00:27:25,351 But Mueller says in the report 639 00:27:25,351 --> 00:27:27,478 collusion isn't a term I'm concerned with. 640 00:27:27,478 --> 00:27:29,939 It's not a legal term. It's not a criminal term. 641 00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:33,526 So the same way Mueller found there was no collusion, 642 00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,736 the same way Mueller found there was no flying elephants. 643 00:27:35,736 --> 00:27:37,697 I mean, it didn't matter either way. 644 00:27:37,697 --> 00:27:39,784 And so Bill Barr, not only did he 645 00:27:39,796 --> 00:27:42,451 dishonestly characterize Mueller's report, 646 00:27:42,451 --> 00:27:45,087 he strategically and deviously manipulated 647 00:27:45,099 --> 00:27:47,623 the timing of the release of the report. 648 00:27:47,623 --> 00:27:49,500 I'll tell you a few things that we would have known 649 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,795 if Barr had released Mueller's summaries. 650 00:27:52,795 --> 00:27:54,839 First of all, we would have known that 651 00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,384 the Russians committed crimes to interfere with the election. 652 00:27:58,384 --> 00:28:01,512 That they did it in order to help Donald Trump win. 653 00:28:01,512 --> 00:28:04,390 That Donald Trump's team knew about these efforts, 654 00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:06,491 and that Donald Trump's team expected 655 00:28:06,503 --> 00:28:08,227 to benefit from those efforts. 656 00:28:08,227 --> 00:28:11,105 So people can argue all day about was there collusion? 657 00:28:11,105 --> 00:28:12,231 Was there not collusion? 658 00:28:12,231 --> 00:28:13,232 People disagree. 659 00:28:13,232 --> 00:28:16,110 But those facts are indisputable. 660 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:17,612 The Russians committed crimes. 661 00:28:17,612 --> 00:28:19,822 They did it because they wanted Trump to win. 662 00:28:19,822 --> 00:28:21,393 The Trump campaign knew about it and 663 00:28:21,405 --> 00:28:23,117 the Trump campaign expected to benefit. 664 00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:24,535 And I would add 665 00:28:24,535 --> 00:28:25,703 the Trump campaign 666 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:27,640 engaged in dozens of efforts to 667 00:28:27,652 --> 00:28:30,041 establish contact with the Russians. 668 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,329 So Bill Barr, in his four pager, 669 00:28:32,354 --> 00:28:34,288 not only did he characterize 670 00:28:34,312 --> 00:28:36,088 Mueller's report, but he also threw 671 00:28:36,088 --> 00:28:38,147 in a conclusion of his own, which was 672 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,176 there was no obstruction of justice. 673 00:28:40,176 --> 00:28:43,137 I think Bill Barr was wildly incorrect in this. 674 00:28:43,137 --> 00:28:47,058 A thousand plus former federal prosecutors, including me, 675 00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:49,894 signed a letter saying this should be obstruction. 676 00:28:49,894 --> 00:28:53,481 The evidence here is more than sufficient for obstruction. 677 00:28:53,481 --> 00:28:55,566 Barr just sort of waved it away. 678 00:28:55,566 --> 00:28:58,736 Barr said, well, for one thing, 679 00:28:58,736 --> 00:29:00,670 it's unusual to have obstruction 680 00:29:00,682 --> 00:29:03,115 unless you have some underlying crime. 681 00:29:03,115 --> 00:29:04,075 That's just nonsense. 682 00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,035 I mean, by Barr's reasoning, if you were really, 683 00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:07,606 really good at obstructing justice, you 684 00:29:07,618 --> 00:29:09,121 could never get charged with anything 685 00:29:09,121 --> 00:29:11,165 because you can never charge the underlying crime. 686 00:29:11,165 --> 00:29:13,793 So why wasn't Trump charged with any crimes? 687 00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,148 The problem for Mueller is that there 688 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,589 is an internal Office of Legal Counsel 689 00:29:18,589 --> 00:29:23,135 memorandum in the Department of Justice, which makes it 690 00:29:23,135 --> 00:29:25,133 a Department of Justice policy 691 00:29:25,145 --> 00:29:27,556 not to indict a sitting president. 692 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:31,185 He felt that to make such an accusation in his report, 693 00:29:31,185 --> 00:29:33,305 if it wasn't going to be followed up 694 00:29:33,317 --> 00:29:35,564 with an actual indictment and a trial, 695 00:29:35,564 --> 00:29:39,568 would deprive Trump of the opportunity to clear his name. 696 00:29:39,568 --> 00:29:41,529 In other words, it would be unfair to him. 697 00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:45,574 It would create a cloud of suspicion and stigma over him. 698 00:29:45,574 --> 00:29:49,704 He left his findings inconclusive, but noted that 699 00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:53,666 Trump could be charged once he left office. 700 00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:56,961 One of the ironies of the Mueller report 701 00:29:56,961 --> 00:30:00,089 is that volume one 702 00:30:00,089 --> 00:30:02,925 isn't able to find enough evidence 703 00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:06,762 sufficient to be able to charge a criminal conspiracy. 704 00:30:06,762 --> 00:30:11,475 However, that's partly because of what we find in volume two, 705 00:30:11,475 --> 00:30:14,770 which is the efforts to obstruct the investigation. 706 00:30:14,770 --> 00:30:18,858 And so both of these parts of the report 707 00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:21,986 form one big picture of both 708 00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:25,281 the coordinated efforts between the Trump campaign and Russia 709 00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,288 and their efforts to undermine the 710 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,893 investigation into that interference. 711 00:30:30,207 --> 00:30:31,247 (tense music) 712 00:30:41,672 --> 00:30:43,340 One of Donald Trump's 713 00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,943 big talking points towards the latter 714 00:30:45,955 --> 00:30:48,846 phases of the Mueller report and after 715 00:30:48,846 --> 00:30:51,036 Mueller was done, was investigate the 716 00:30:51,048 --> 00:30:53,309 investigators. It's revenge time now. 717 00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:57,605 And that's where John Durham became special counsel. 718 00:30:57,605 --> 00:31:00,816 Bill Barr tapped John Durham to do just that. 719 00:31:00,816 --> 00:31:02,207 And by the way, John Durham's 720 00:31:02,219 --> 00:31:04,153 investigation has now taken way longer 721 00:31:04,153 --> 00:31:07,865 than Mueller's investigation and yielded far, far less. 722 00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:09,241 And so this was Barr 723 00:31:09,241 --> 00:31:12,495 engaging and facilitating Donald Trump's revenge fantasies. 724 00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:14,798 And, frankly, Bill Barr's own revenge fantasies, 725 00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:17,124 because Bill Barr has said 726 00:31:17,124 --> 00:31:18,754 he was always from before he 727 00:31:18,766 --> 00:31:20,878 became attorney general, skeptical 728 00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:24,215 of and more of Bob Mueller's investigation. 729 00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:27,927 But he has since, Bill Barr calls it Russiagate 730 00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:31,347 and the Russia hoax, and he is very aggressive about it. 731 00:31:31,347 --> 00:31:34,975 Well, appointing John Durham to investigate the investigators 732 00:31:34,975 --> 00:31:37,797 was the ultimate act of retribution 733 00:31:37,809 --> 00:31:39,855 and of political revenge. 734 00:31:39,855 --> 00:31:41,504 Of course, it's completely backfired 735 00:31:41,516 --> 00:31:42,817 because John Durham has been 736 00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:45,945 a massive dud and a massive embarrassment. 737 00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:48,989 You already had three separate reports concluding that 738 00:31:48,989 --> 00:31:50,718 Bob Mueller's investigation was not 739 00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:52,326 just appropriate, but necessary. 740 00:31:52,326 --> 00:31:54,662 You had the Inspector General of DOJ. 741 00:31:54,662 --> 00:31:58,207 You had Mueller himself, and you had a Republican-led Senate 742 00:31:58,207 --> 00:32:00,385 committee, all of which said not just 743 00:32:00,397 --> 00:32:02,586 it was appropriate for Robert Mueller 744 00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:04,039 to investigate Russian 745 00:32:04,051 --> 00:32:06,632 interference, but it was necessary. 746 00:32:06,632 --> 00:32:09,218 It would have been malpractice not to. 747 00:32:09,218 --> 00:32:11,720 Robert Mueller did not run a perfect investigation. 748 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,598 To be sure, there were faults in the investigation. 749 00:32:14,598 --> 00:32:16,392 The Inspector General found this. 750 00:32:16,392 --> 00:32:19,520 I mean, you had texts, internal texts, most infamously, 751 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,148 I think, from FBI agent Peter Strzok showing he 752 00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:23,924 absolutely had bias, political and 753 00:32:23,936 --> 00:32:25,776 personal bias against Donald Trump. 754 00:32:25,776 --> 00:32:28,279 That's a problem that's worth addressing. 755 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,906 And we shouldn't ever breeze by that. 756 00:32:30,906 --> 00:32:33,075 That does not mean, however, that nothing happened. 757 00:32:33,075 --> 00:32:36,704 That does not mean there was no attempt to connect with Russia. 758 00:32:36,704 --> 00:32:37,496 There were plenty of those. 759 00:32:37,496 --> 00:32:39,748 That does not mean Russia didn't try to interfere. 760 00:32:39,748 --> 00:32:40,958 They absolutely did. 761 00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:44,336 So both of those things can be true at the same time. 762 00:32:44,461 --> 00:32:45,557 And then for Bill Barr in 763 00:32:45,569 --> 00:32:47,298 particular, to come along and appoint 764 00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,944 somebody like John Durham looking 765 00:32:48,956 --> 00:32:50,467 into something, you know, one, 766 00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:52,923 there was this very early statement that 767 00:32:52,935 --> 00:32:55,222 John Durham publicly made after DOJ’s 768 00:32:55,222 --> 00:32:56,879 Inspector General releases his report 769 00:32:56,891 --> 00:32:58,517 where Durham, said, well, I disagree 770 00:32:58,517 --> 00:33:00,261 with some of his conclusions about 771 00:33:00,273 --> 00:33:01,979 the opening of the investigation. 772 00:33:01,979 --> 00:33:04,899 Well, I was there. I opened the case. 773 00:33:04,899 --> 00:33:06,358 I know what happened. 774 00:33:06,358 --> 00:33:10,404 And what the IG said is exactly the way that occurred. 775 00:33:10,404 --> 00:33:12,823 So I'm not sure what it is that caused this 776 00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:15,829 sitting U.S. attorney to make this extraordinary 777 00:33:15,831 --> 00:33:17,786 public statement of disagreement 778 00:33:17,786 --> 00:33:20,039 with what I know to be the truth. 779 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,851 People who want to find fault with 780 00:33:21,863 --> 00:33:23,792 the Russia investigation are finding 781 00:33:23,792 --> 00:33:25,127 little nooks and crannies 782 00:33:25,127 --> 00:33:28,605 into some of the things that Durham has filed gratuitously. 783 00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,737 But no, John Durham's work, by and large 784 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,806 has cast no meaningful doubt 785 00:33:32,934 --> 00:33:34,927 on the necessity of the Russia investigation. 786 00:33:35,018 --> 00:33:36,058 (tense music) 787 00:33:46,816 --> 00:33:48,445 Strzok's testimony before Congress 788 00:33:48,464 --> 00:33:50,694 showed that partisan attacks 789 00:33:50,694 --> 00:33:54,240 are now commonplace with regard to the Russia investigation. 790 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,452 And you have come in here and said, I have no bias, 791 00:33:58,452 --> 00:34:00,329 and you do it with a straight face. 792 00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:04,208 And I watched you in the private testimony you gave. 793 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:07,127 And I told some of the other guys, he is really good. 794 00:34:07,127 --> 00:34:08,087 He's lying. 795 00:34:08,087 --> 00:34:10,089 He knows we know he's lying. 796 00:34:10,089 --> 00:34:12,383 And he can probably pass a polygraph. 797 00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,802 It's amazing-- - Mr. Chairman. 798 00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:16,262 - This is my time... - Mr. Chairman. 799 00:34:16,262 --> 00:34:17,938 I'm sorry. Point of order. 800 00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:19,609 Point of order. 801 00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:21,952 The gentleman will state his point of order. 802 00:34:22,059 --> 00:34:23,227 A member of this committee 803 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,646 just asserted that this witness who was under oath 804 00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:27,815 and a former agent of the FBI lied. 805 00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:30,192 There is no evidence of that and I ask him to withdraw it. 806 00:34:30,192 --> 00:34:31,568 I do not withdraw it. 807 00:34:31,568 --> 00:34:33,404 He is not a member of Congress. 808 00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:35,656 It's not a violation of the rule. 809 00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:37,398 And just as you have been 810 00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:40,077 expressing bias through your members 811 00:34:40,077 --> 00:34:41,483 about what a hero he is... 812 00:34:41,495 --> 00:34:43,080 There is not a single person on this committee 813 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,311 who has ever characterized... 814 00:34:44,335 --> 00:34:46,166 The gentleman from Rhode Island... 815 00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:48,836 The gentleman from Rhode Island 816 00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,187 will suspend. 817 00:34:50,211 --> 00:34:52,047 No, the disgrace is 818 00:34:52,047 --> 00:34:53,294 what this man has done. 819 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,652 The gentleman from Texas will suspend for a moment. 820 00:34:55,677 --> 00:34:59,738 There is the disgrace, and it won't be recaptured 821 00:34:59,763 --> 00:35:02,057 any time soon because of the damage 822 00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:04,310 you've done to the justice system. 823 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:06,895 And I've talked to FBI agents around the country. 824 00:35:06,895 --> 00:35:08,397 You've embarrassed them. 825 00:35:08,397 --> 00:35:10,357 You've been embarrassed yourself. 826 00:35:10,357 --> 00:35:12,556 And I can't help but wonder when I see 827 00:35:12,568 --> 00:35:14,778 you looking there with a little smirk, 828 00:35:14,778 --> 00:35:18,240 how many times did you look so innocent 829 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:21,819 into your wife's eyes and lie to her about Lisa Page? 830 00:35:21,830 --> 00:35:23,690 Mr. Chairman, this is outrageous! 831 00:35:23,768 --> 00:35:26,761 (indistinct shouting) 832 00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:29,671 Mr. Chairman, please? 833 00:35:29,729 --> 00:35:30,771 (indistinct shouting) 834 00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:33,432 This is intolerable, harassment of the witness! 835 00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:35,217 You need your medication! 836 00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:37,870 Strzok defended the FBI, saying partisan 837 00:35:37,882 --> 00:35:39,928 attacks were hurting the agency. 838 00:35:39,928 --> 00:35:42,306 Everybody's watching this and making up their own mind. 839 00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:45,225 And what I would tell you 840 00:35:45,225 --> 00:35:46,977 is one, 841 00:35:46,977 --> 00:35:49,063 I'm sitting here telling you the truth. 842 00:35:49,063 --> 00:35:51,940 And two, independent of me, 843 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:58,781 I cannot express to you my love of the FBI enough. 844 00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:02,910 The men and women who make up that workforce, their ethics, 845 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,622 their integrity are unmatched anywhere in the world. 846 00:36:06,622 --> 00:36:11,043 And I think that's important, one, because it is who we are. 847 00:36:11,043 --> 00:36:13,837 Two, that none of them 848 00:36:13,837 --> 00:36:15,503 would accept any of the behaviors 849 00:36:15,515 --> 00:36:17,341 that are being alleged any more than 850 00:36:17,341 --> 00:36:19,635 I would accept it in him. 851 00:36:19,635 --> 00:36:20,886 And three, 852 00:36:20,886 --> 00:36:24,223 this entire exercise comes at a cost. 853 00:36:24,223 --> 00:36:26,382 We are doing things that are 854 00:36:26,394 --> 00:36:29,186 going to, in the future, tear down 855 00:36:29,186 --> 00:36:31,281 the underpinnings of what represent 856 00:36:31,293 --> 00:36:33,107 law and order in this country. 857 00:36:33,107 --> 00:36:36,235 So did the Russians tip the 2016 election? 858 00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:38,260 That's the focus of Cyberwar by 859 00:36:38,272 --> 00:36:40,572 Professor Kathleen Hall Jamieson. 860 00:36:40,572 --> 00:36:43,367 We begin with a key question: did Russia turn 861 00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:46,578 the outcome of the last presidential race? 862 00:36:46,578 --> 00:36:48,872 I believe it's highly probable that they did. 863 00:36:48,872 --> 00:36:50,958 Not certain, but highly probable. 864 00:36:50,958 --> 00:36:53,168 Three ways to get there: troll influence - 865 00:36:53,168 --> 00:36:55,212 those were the imposters in cyberspace, 866 00:36:55,212 --> 00:36:58,590 influence of hacking on media agenda, including hacked content 867 00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:00,884 used as a basis of questions that hurt Clinton in... 868 00:37:00,884 --> 00:37:02,595 ..two debates, and a possible 869 00:37:02,607 --> 00:37:04,805 influence of Russian disinformation 870 00:37:04,805 --> 00:37:06,953 on James Comey's decision on October 871 00:37:06,965 --> 00:37:09,184 28th to basically let the public know 872 00:37:09,184 --> 00:37:10,518 that he had reopened the server 873 00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:12,396 investigation. It changed the media agenda 874 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:14,314 and she dropped in the polls 2.5%. 875 00:37:14,314 --> 00:37:16,608 That could have been a decisive influence all by itself. 876 00:37:16,608 --> 00:37:17,443 Nicely done. 877 00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,589 When I get asked, do I think the Russians 878 00:37:20,601 --> 00:37:23,157 succeeded in actually influencing 879 00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:25,502 to the point where Americans voted a 880 00:37:25,514 --> 00:37:27,870 certain way based on that influence? 881 00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:31,415 I tell you first, honestly, I don't know. 882 00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:33,876 But my conclusion, if forced to come to 883 00:37:33,876 --> 00:37:37,421 one, would be I think so, I think it worked. 884 00:37:37,421 --> 00:37:40,056 Perhaps the most tangible likelihood 885 00:37:40,133 --> 00:37:41,887 that that was successful would be 886 00:37:41,905 --> 00:37:46,263 with the breach into DNC emails 887 00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:48,707 and communications involving Hillary Clinton 888 00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:51,151 and her staff and associates. 889 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,524 He repeated the Wikileaks theme. 890 00:37:53,562 --> 00:37:58,275 He repeated the mantra of look at what Hillary is saying. 891 00:37:58,275 --> 00:38:01,236 Look at what her staff is saying about her. 892 00:38:01,236 --> 00:38:03,155 That's stolen material, 893 00:38:03,155 --> 00:38:04,573 Trump used it, 894 00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:07,201 and it's clear 895 00:38:07,201 --> 00:38:10,454 it came from the Russian intelligence services. 896 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,889 Paul Manafort's contacts and coordination 897 00:38:12,913 --> 00:38:14,225 with Konstantin Kilimnik 898 00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:17,548 is exactly what we mean when we say collusion. 899 00:38:17,794 --> 00:38:20,672 This is a clandestine, 900 00:38:20,672 --> 00:38:24,760 coordinated attempt to achieve an outcome, 901 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,223 in this case helping Russia interfere in the 2016 election. 902 00:38:29,223 --> 00:38:32,392 What's key about the polling data that Manafort 903 00:38:32,392 --> 00:38:36,688 provided to Konstantin Kilimnik is that the Russians needed this 904 00:38:36,688 --> 00:38:40,943 on the ground intelligence in order to know where to focus 905 00:38:40,943 --> 00:38:44,947 their disinformation and influence operation efforts. 906 00:38:44,947 --> 00:38:47,382 By gathering intelligence on where 907 00:38:47,394 --> 00:38:49,701 small changes in voting behavior 908 00:38:49,701 --> 00:38:51,278 or turnout can make a big 909 00:38:51,290 --> 00:38:53,705 difference in the electoral outcome, 910 00:38:53,705 --> 00:38:57,751 Russia was able to target its operations very effectively, 911 00:38:57,751 --> 00:38:59,337 and Manafort helped them with that. 912 00:38:59,631 --> 00:39:00,671 (tense music) 913 00:39:02,464 --> 00:39:03,849 When you look at the number of voters 914 00:39:03,861 --> 00:39:05,676 if you tally up the sum total 915 00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:09,680 between Pennsylvania, Michigan and I think Wisconsin, 916 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,641 the number of voters that you would have to change their mind 917 00:39:12,641 --> 00:39:15,310 to cause the election to go to Clinton instead of Trump? 918 00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:17,316 You could fit them all in Michigan Stadium, 919 00:39:17,328 --> 00:39:19,231 you know, in Ann Arbor. 920 00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:20,774 It's a very small number. 921 00:39:20,774 --> 00:39:22,347 So I agree with people when they say, 922 00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:23,944 look, you know, if you look at malign 923 00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:28,031 Russian activity, it's not going to move the needle 4, 5 or 6%. 924 00:39:28,031 --> 00:39:29,741 And that's true. But that's not the point. 925 00:39:29,741 --> 00:39:34,997 The point is you need to move the needle a tiny percent of 1%. 926 00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:36,957 You don't need a big shift. 927 00:39:36,957 --> 00:39:39,323 So when it comes to what the Russians did 928 00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:43,812 even if it moved the needle 0.1, 0.2%... that's enough. 929 00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:47,134 And so consequently, had they not done that, 930 00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:50,429 might the campaign, might the election have gone differently? 931 00:39:50,429 --> 00:39:52,222 Sure. And I think it would have. 932 00:39:52,222 --> 00:39:55,017 Now, you can extend that reasoning to... had Director 933 00:39:55,017 --> 00:39:56,963 Comey not made the announcement to reopen 934 00:39:56,975 --> 00:39:58,979 the investigation, might it have changed it? 935 00:39:58,979 --> 00:40:02,899 Yes. In a campaign that close, there are any number of factors 936 00:40:02,899 --> 00:40:04,484 that could be determinative. 937 00:40:04,484 --> 00:40:08,488 But, one of them was absolutely the government of Russia. 938 00:40:08,488 --> 00:40:10,866 I wouldn't necessarily disagree. 939 00:40:10,866 --> 00:40:12,117 I have not read the book. 940 00:40:12,117 --> 00:40:14,036 So I need to put that out there. 941 00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:15,054 I wouldn't disagree, 942 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,889 but I don't know if we have the data 943 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:18,999 to kind of back that up empirically. 944 00:40:18,999 --> 00:40:22,753 So as a hypothesis, I don't disagree with it. 945 00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:23,795 But from an empirical side, 946 00:40:23,795 --> 00:40:25,437 I'd have to review the data to kind 947 00:40:25,449 --> 00:40:26,965 of get a better measure on that. 948 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:31,053 So in September 949 00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:36,266 of 2020, I filed a much more comprehensive complaint. 950 00:40:36,266 --> 00:40:37,267 But the core of it 951 00:40:37,267 --> 00:40:40,529 was that the suppression of intelligence 952 00:40:40,541 --> 00:40:42,856 as related to 2020 elections 953 00:40:42,856 --> 00:40:46,485 for political purposes to support Donald Trump 954 00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:49,404 and let Joe Biden be, you know, denigrated, right? 955 00:40:49,404 --> 00:40:51,239 In July of 2020, 956 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,077 my office wrote a report basically outlining 957 00:40:55,077 --> 00:40:57,037 specific information that we were going to send 958 00:40:57,037 --> 00:40:59,289 to our stakeholders at an unclassified level, 959 00:40:59,289 --> 00:41:00,879 that the Russians were going to 960 00:41:00,891 --> 00:41:02,959 denigrate Joe Biden and try to pump up 961 00:41:02,959 --> 00:41:05,193 President Trump. Specifically, I got an 962 00:41:05,205 --> 00:41:07,122 email from the chief of staff saying 963 00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:08,719 Chad Wolf knows you're about to put 964 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,217 this out, but he'd like to see you. 965 00:41:10,217 --> 00:41:12,511 So I knew what it was going to be about. 966 00:41:12,511 --> 00:41:16,682 So, of course, I went and saw him and he asked me to hold 967 00:41:16,682 --> 00:41:20,560 the information, and I said I'm not going to do that. 968 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,522 And he's like, I'm ordering you to hold it. 969 00:41:23,522 --> 00:41:25,107 And I told him I wouldn't do it. 970 00:41:25,107 --> 00:41:26,257 He wanted the information held 971 00:41:26,269 --> 00:41:27,818 because it was going to make President 972 00:41:27,818 --> 00:41:29,027 Trump look bad. 973 00:41:29,027 --> 00:41:30,720 The public demands that you hold these 974 00:41:30,732 --> 00:41:32,656 offices and do what's right for the country 975 00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:33,532 and not for yourself. 976 00:41:33,532 --> 00:41:38,245 So, I mean, I find that argument to be disgusting. 977 00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:41,832 In 2024, if Trump runs for it, well, I won't vote for him, 978 00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:42,958 and I don't think he's fit for office. 979 00:41:42,958 --> 00:41:46,878 I think he will damage this country in ways that are worse 980 00:41:46,878 --> 00:41:48,213 than what he's done so far. 981 00:41:48,213 --> 00:41:50,318 I think that while the Russians have 982 00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:52,676 done their job of enhancing polarization 983 00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:54,929 and discord in the United States, they 984 00:41:54,941 --> 00:41:57,264 pale in comparison to Trump by himself. 985 00:41:57,264 --> 00:41:59,109 And so I think really where he showed 986 00:41:59,121 --> 00:42:00,684 his true colors to the American 987 00:42:00,684 --> 00:42:02,394 people was after he lost. 988 00:42:02,502 --> 00:42:03,542 (tense music) 989 00:42:03,895 --> 00:42:06,815 In November of 2020, 990 00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:08,527 as we lead into January 6th, 991 00:42:08,539 --> 00:42:10,694 just a very dangerous predicament 992 00:42:10,694 --> 00:42:13,905 he's put the country in. The lies that he has told 993 00:42:13,905 --> 00:42:15,418 and for things that I believe he 994 00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:17,732 probably thinks aren't true anyways, right? 995 00:42:17,951 --> 00:42:20,579 And the polarization that he's caused. 996 00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:21,955 I think we are in a worse place. 997 00:42:21,955 --> 00:42:24,436 And, you know, I think he's the direct cause of that. 998 00:42:25,625 --> 00:42:28,044 The Russians are certainly trying to influence 999 00:42:28,044 --> 00:42:32,966 the US 2024 elections. In the company I work in now 1000 00:42:32,966 --> 00:42:35,594 called Logically, you know, we're looking at this happen in 1001 00:42:35,594 --> 00:42:36,871 real time on social media. We are 1002 00:42:36,883 --> 00:42:38,096 a social media analysis company, 1003 00:42:38,096 --> 00:42:41,266 so we see people and signs of what we think are the Russians. 1004 00:42:41,266 --> 00:42:44,269 There's no doubt in my mind that they're still involved. 1005 00:42:44,269 --> 00:42:45,928 So I ended up becoming the highest-ranking 1006 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,105 whistleblower in U.S. history. 1007 00:42:47,105 --> 00:42:49,952 It's not a kind of thing, a title 1008 00:42:49,964 --> 00:42:52,402 I thought I would ever have. 1009 00:42:52,402 --> 00:42:54,905 And anyone that knows me would never have envisioned 1010 00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:56,490 that would be the place that I would be in. 1011 00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,367 But I am proud of it. 1012 00:42:59,367 --> 00:43:00,535 Because when I think 1013 00:43:00,535 --> 00:43:04,745 when I was called to do the right thing, I did. 1014 00:43:05,578 --> 00:43:06,858 (brooding music) 1015 00:43:09,127 --> 00:43:11,588 I'm not into golden showers! 1016 00:43:11,588 --> 00:43:14,966 You know the great thing, our great first lady, 1017 00:43:14,991 --> 00:43:17,734 "That one," she said. "I don't believe that one." 1018 00:43:18,136 --> 00:43:22,766 He's not into golden showers, as they say they call them. 1019 00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:24,267 I don't like that idea. 1020 00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:26,144 Former FBI Director Comey's 1021 00:43:26,156 --> 00:43:28,605 remarks on ABC fueled speculation 1022 00:43:28,605 --> 00:43:30,891 that the salacious rumor might be true. 1023 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,085 And I started to tell him about the allegation was that 1024 00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:36,530 he had been involved with prostitutes in a hotel 1025 00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:38,634 in Moscow in 2013, during a visit 1026 00:43:38,646 --> 00:43:40,575 for the Miss Universe pageant, 1027 00:43:40,575 --> 00:43:44,389 and that the Russians had filmed the episode. 1028 00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:45,514 I honestly never thought these 1029 00:43:45,526 --> 00:43:46,581 words would come out of my mouth, 1030 00:43:46,581 --> 00:43:48,340 but I don't know whether the current 1031 00:43:48,352 --> 00:43:49,835 president of the United States 1032 00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:53,505 was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013. 1033 00:43:53,505 --> 00:43:55,423 It's possible, but I don't know. 1034 00:43:55,423 --> 00:43:58,677 Years after his dossier, Christopher Steele added 1035 00:43:58,677 --> 00:44:01,888 to the intrigue that a videotape might exist. 1036 00:44:01,888 --> 00:44:05,809 And today, do you still believe that that tape exists? 1037 00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:07,457 I think it probably does, but I 1038 00:44:07,469 --> 00:44:09,396 wouldn't put 100% certainty on it. 1039 00:44:09,855 --> 00:44:12,190 A report in the British newspaper The Guardian, 1040 00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:13,984 further added to the intrigue. 1041 00:44:14,467 --> 00:44:15,747 (brooding music) 1042 00:44:19,345 --> 00:44:22,348 And just in case you missed seeing me, here I am. 1043 00:44:22,409 --> 00:44:24,345 A golden shower, (laughs) 1044 00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:27,539 or sometimes referred to as water sports, 1045 00:44:27,539 --> 00:44:30,540 is when somebody likes to urinate 1046 00:44:30,552 --> 00:44:33,211 on someone or be urinated on. 1047 00:44:33,211 --> 00:44:35,463 Basically, it's a pee party. 1048 00:44:35,463 --> 00:44:39,217 So I think for some the kink is domination, 1049 00:44:39,217 --> 00:44:42,387 you know, and or marking territory. 1050 00:44:42,387 --> 00:44:43,555 I don't really know. 1051 00:44:43,555 --> 00:44:45,189 I like I said, I'm not into it, but 1052 00:44:45,201 --> 00:44:46,892 those are the things I've been told. 1053 00:44:46,892 --> 00:44:51,313 You know, the humiliation of it, you know, pee on me or worse. 1054 00:44:51,354 --> 00:44:52,856 You know, we all know about, you know, 1055 00:44:52,868 --> 00:44:54,524 the alternative to that is. 1056 00:44:54,524 --> 00:44:57,360 But I think it's the act of humiliation. 1057 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,572 People who like to be spanked or put leashes on or, 1058 00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:03,658 you know, it's a very submissive thing to be peed on. 1059 00:45:03,658 --> 00:45:05,276 I mean, I get asked a lot what, 1060 00:45:05,288 --> 00:45:07,287 what I think about the allegation of 1061 00:45:07,287 --> 00:45:11,917 Trump and the golden shower tape from 2013. 1062 00:45:11,917 --> 00:45:13,209 There's different versions of it. 1063 00:45:13,209 --> 00:45:15,310 I always assumed that he had 1064 00:45:15,322 --> 00:45:17,964 been peed on or peed on somebody, 1065 00:45:17,964 --> 00:45:21,092 but I guess the actual story is that he only watched 1066 00:45:21,092 --> 00:45:23,706 two Russian prostitutes urinate on a 1067 00:45:23,718 --> 00:45:26,556 bed that the Obamas allegedly slept in. 1068 00:45:26,556 --> 00:45:27,933 But the way... 1069 00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:29,100 is that that bad? 1070 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,101 I don't, I don't know, but I mean, 1071 00:45:31,113 --> 00:45:32,896 I think a lot of people assume 1072 00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:35,941 that he got peed on because he's kind of a bitch. 1073 00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:39,152 I'm Katie Morgan, and I am an adult movie star. 1074 00:45:39,152 --> 00:45:42,072 I've been doing adult movies for 20 years now, 1075 00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:45,617 and I absolutely love all the orgasms. 1076 00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:49,120 Of course, I'm familiar with golden showers. 1077 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,580 It's one of those things. 1078 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:52,707 Everybody's got their kink. 1079 00:45:52,707 --> 00:45:55,114 Golden showers are when you find it 1080 00:45:55,126 --> 00:45:57,545 sexually exciting to pee on someone 1081 00:45:57,545 --> 00:45:59,698 or to get peed on by someone. 1082 00:45:59,710 --> 00:46:02,050 Or, I guess, really, any way that you involve 1083 00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,521 urine in your sex play for 1084 00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:05,929 gratification counts as golden showers. 1085 00:46:05,929 --> 00:46:08,223 It's actually been around since the early 40s 1086 00:46:08,223 --> 00:46:11,851 in the slang dictionary. So it's a pretty old idea. 1087 00:46:11,851 --> 00:46:14,020 Apparently people really like to pee on each other. 1088 00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:15,647 I've heard it called water sports. 1089 00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:18,274 I've heard it called golden rain. 1090 00:46:18,274 --> 00:46:19,651 I've heard it called a few different things, 1091 00:46:19,651 --> 00:46:21,487 but in general, if you say golden 1092 00:46:21,499 --> 00:46:23,238 anything, people know it's pee. 1093 00:46:23,238 --> 00:46:25,566 So the allegation with Trump was 1094 00:46:25,578 --> 00:46:28,284 that in 2013, at a hotel in Moscow, 1095 00:46:28,284 --> 00:46:30,718 he watched prostitutes pee on the 1096 00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:33,248 same bed that the Obamas slept in. 1097 00:46:33,248 --> 00:46:35,750 It's so weird. And, it's funny, 1098 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:38,712 I always thought he was either peed on or he peed on someone. 1099 00:46:38,712 --> 00:46:41,923 I never knew the details until I did the research. 1100 00:46:41,923 --> 00:46:43,501 The rumor is that there's actual 1101 00:46:43,513 --> 00:46:45,301 video evidence that this happened, 1102 00:46:45,301 --> 00:46:48,430 so... I have not seen the video, but I'd watch it. 1103 00:46:48,431 --> 00:46:50,435 Truth or not? I don't know. 1104 00:46:50,473 --> 00:46:52,137 I don't know, he just... even if you 1105 00:46:52,149 --> 00:46:53,727 just watched, I would admit it. 1106 00:46:53,727 --> 00:46:54,811 Who cares? 1107 00:46:54,811 --> 00:46:56,604 I mean, it's not like he was involved. 1108 00:46:56,604 --> 00:46:59,107 He just watched. Maybe. 1109 00:46:59,315 --> 00:47:00,150 Yeah, 1110 00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:02,694 you know, I used to think that story about 1111 00:47:02,694 --> 00:47:05,349 the golden shower tape couldn't possibly 1112 00:47:05,361 --> 00:47:08,158 be true because it seemed so far- fetched. 1113 00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:13,371 But nowadays, is it really that far-fetched? 1114 00:47:13,371 --> 00:47:16,541 Anything is possible when it comes to the orange hobgoblin. 1115 00:47:16,541 --> 00:47:19,419 Unless some of you have been under a rock, 1116 00:47:19,419 --> 00:47:22,672 that in 2006, I met Donald Trump 1117 00:47:22,672 --> 00:47:24,449 at a golf tournament, a celebrity 1118 00:47:24,461 --> 00:47:26,092 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe. 1119 00:47:26,092 --> 00:47:29,846 And he invited me to dinner and I agreed 1120 00:47:29,846 --> 00:47:32,262 and went to his hotel to meet him 1121 00:47:32,274 --> 00:47:34,559 for what I was told was dinner. 1122 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:39,272 And that ended up turning into a three hour conversation, 1123 00:47:39,272 --> 00:47:42,734 which did not include any conversation about sex or 1124 00:47:42,734 --> 00:47:45,528 escorting or money for sex, or any of those things. 1125 00:47:45,528 --> 00:47:48,255 And I went to the ladies room or the 1126 00:47:48,267 --> 00:47:50,784 bathroom in his room and came out 1127 00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:55,038 to find him perched in his underwear on the bed. 1128 00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:58,875 And I was too afraid to say no. 1129 00:47:58,875 --> 00:48:02,128 I tried to walk past him, and he got between me and the door. 1130 00:48:02,128 --> 00:48:03,795 I knew his security guard was 1131 00:48:03,807 --> 00:48:06,007 outside, and basically we had talked 1132 00:48:06,007 --> 00:48:08,426 for several hours about how I wanted to be a director 1133 00:48:08,426 --> 00:48:09,594 in mainstream and, 1134 00:48:09,594 --> 00:48:11,145 you know, all of that stuff, and he 1135 00:48:11,157 --> 00:48:12,641 kind of used some of that against me. 1136 00:48:12,695 --> 00:48:13,610 And I was cornered. 1137 00:48:13,635 --> 00:48:16,757 And I... honestly, I just froze. 1138 00:48:16,851 --> 00:48:18,478 You know, he didn't physically force me. 1139 00:48:18,478 --> 00:48:21,064 He didn't threaten me with violence. 1140 00:48:21,064 --> 00:48:22,857 I definitely could outrun him. 1141 00:48:22,857 --> 00:48:24,484 But I just froze. 1142 00:48:24,484 --> 00:48:26,055 And... we had sex. 1143 00:48:26,694 --> 00:48:28,404 I mean, I guess I should have seen it coming, 1144 00:48:28,404 --> 00:48:29,932 because when I arrived at the room, 1145 00:48:29,944 --> 00:48:31,908 he apologized for being late. 1146 00:48:31,954 --> 00:48:33,826 He had had a phone call, and he opened the door 1147 00:48:33,851 --> 00:48:36,144 in his black silk pajamas. 1148 00:48:37,705 --> 00:48:40,500 And I laughed at him, thinking to myself, 1149 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:42,418 this motherfucker's trying to be Hugh Hefner. 1150 00:48:42,418 --> 00:48:44,337 And I told him to go put some fucking clothes on. 1151 00:48:44,337 --> 00:48:47,632 I also then famously spanked him with a magazine 1152 00:48:47,661 --> 00:48:49,584 because during our conversation, 1153 00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:52,428 he was bragging about all of his accolades 1154 00:48:52,428 --> 00:48:53,346 and achievements. 1155 00:48:53,346 --> 00:48:55,807 And, you know, he was peacocking 1156 00:48:55,807 --> 00:48:57,358 and didn't let me get a word in and 1157 00:48:57,370 --> 00:48:58,977 didn't ask me anything about myself. 1158 00:48:58,977 --> 00:49:01,896 And after, you know, a very long time of this, 1159 00:49:01,896 --> 00:49:04,750 he produced a magazine that he was very 1160 00:49:04,775 --> 00:49:06,251 proud of, that he was on the cover of. 1161 00:49:06,276 --> 00:49:07,790 And I think he even was like, it's not 1162 00:49:07,802 --> 00:49:10,047 even out yet, but I have an advance copy. 1163 00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:13,298 And I... at that point I was hungry, 1164 00:49:13,408 --> 00:49:15,451 I had been lied to. 1165 00:49:15,451 --> 00:49:16,619 I get very hangry 1166 00:49:16,619 --> 00:49:18,613 and I was tired of listening to this 1167 00:49:18,625 --> 00:49:20,415 buffoon just talk about himself. 1168 00:49:20,415 --> 00:49:21,958 So I just quipped at him, 1169 00:49:21,958 --> 00:49:23,835 somebody should spank you with that magazine. 1170 00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:25,451 I just snatched it from him, 1171 00:49:25,463 --> 00:49:27,046 rolled it up and told him to turn around. 1172 00:49:27,046 --> 00:49:28,339 I smacked him on the ass. 1173 00:49:28,339 --> 00:49:29,775 I think somebody should spank him with 1174 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,178 a rolled-up newspaper or magazine daily. 1175 00:49:33,178 --> 00:49:35,054 God, he's dumb. 1176 00:49:35,054 --> 00:49:36,389 Obviously, he's into them. 1177 00:49:36,389 --> 00:49:38,266 They certainly seem to be on his mind. 1178 00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:39,601 I mean, he certainly seems to be 1179 00:49:39,601 --> 00:49:41,666 into golden showers if he's randomly 1180 00:49:41,678 --> 00:49:43,980 talking about them in business meetings. 1181 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:47,692 God, he's so stupid. And I think that's one of the tells 1182 00:49:47,692 --> 00:49:49,175 that the golden shower tape might exist - 1183 00:49:49,187 --> 00:49:50,945 he can't stop talking about it. 1184 00:49:50,945 --> 00:49:52,393 When other people do stop talking 1185 00:49:52,405 --> 00:49:53,823 about it, he brings it up again. 1186 00:49:53,823 --> 00:49:54,927 He is so dumb. 1187 00:49:56,117 --> 00:49:58,077 What was sex with Trump like? 1188 00:49:58,077 --> 00:49:59,999 Hands down, the worst and most 1189 00:50:00,026 --> 00:50:02,148 regrettable 90 seconds of my life. 1190 00:50:02,291 --> 00:50:03,837 I didn't even get to pee on him. 1191 00:50:04,392 --> 00:50:05,672 (brooding music) 1192 00:50:07,754 --> 00:50:08,963 Trump's former attorney, 1193 00:50:08,963 --> 00:50:11,275 Michael Cohen, wrote that rumors of 1194 00:50:11,287 --> 00:50:13,676 a videotape had circulated for years 1195 00:50:13,676 --> 00:50:18,097 and, quote, knowing the boss, anything was possible. 1196 00:50:18,097 --> 00:50:19,474 Cohen also wrote that Trump 1197 00:50:19,474 --> 00:50:21,874 visited a raunchy nightclub in Las Vegas 1198 00:50:21,886 --> 00:50:24,062 with a Russian oligarch, a nightclub 1199 00:50:24,062 --> 00:50:28,024 that featured a simulated golden showers routine. 1200 00:50:28,024 --> 00:50:28,959 Some suspect 1201 00:50:28,984 --> 00:50:30,739 that Trump's appearance at the nightclub 1202 00:50:30,779 --> 00:50:32,695 might have sparked the salacious rumor. 1203 00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:35,782 So what was the club's name and what was it like? 1204 00:50:35,898 --> 00:50:37,578 (upfront dance music) 1205 00:50:44,832 --> 00:50:46,334 The Vegas nightclub was closed 1206 00:50:46,334 --> 00:50:48,002 shortly after Trump visited it, 1207 00:50:48,002 --> 00:50:49,678 one month after a judge ordered it 1208 00:50:49,726 --> 00:50:51,639 to clean up its risque sex shows. 1209 00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:55,468 In his book, Cohen says his heart sank when a friend said 1210 00:50:55,468 --> 00:50:59,222 he heard rumors in 2016 about a pee tape. 1211 00:50:59,222 --> 00:51:01,808 His friend denies Cohen's allegations. 1212 00:51:01,808 --> 00:51:04,811 For him to say that we discussed pee tapes 1213 00:51:04,811 --> 00:51:07,438 is, in my opinion, disgusting... 1214 00:51:07,438 --> 00:51:08,946 ...when you're talking about 1215 00:51:08,958 --> 00:51:10,858 someone that calls you a brother. 1216 00:51:10,858 --> 00:51:13,068 I know that he's selling every book 1217 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,363 he can sell, and I'm fine with that. 1218 00:51:15,409 --> 00:51:17,070 Except you can't just 1219 00:51:17,244 --> 00:51:23,538 go on a spree of talking about your friend, 1220 00:51:23,538 --> 00:51:25,177 you know, and lying about some of 1221 00:51:25,189 --> 00:51:26,791 the things that you were saying. 1222 00:51:26,791 --> 00:51:29,210 He took action. He did this, did that. 1223 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:33,006 So when I got a phone call from a friend of mine in Moscow 1224 00:51:33,006 --> 00:51:36,843 and he said, listen, you know, I was sitting at dinner and, 1225 00:51:37,886 --> 00:51:40,398 I overheard somebody saying about some tapes about 1226 00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:43,841 Mr. Trump, and so forth. 1227 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:48,896 And he told me that he wasn't concerned. 1228 00:51:48,896 --> 00:51:50,732 Not in a dramatic way. 1229 00:51:50,732 --> 00:51:53,151 He just said, listen, I know you're in business 1230 00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:56,612 with the Trump Organization, but this is what's going on. 1231 00:51:56,612 --> 00:52:01,140 And like I said, a lot of conversations were about tapes. 1232 00:52:02,036 --> 00:52:04,721 Access Hollywood, famous Access Hollywood tape, 1233 00:52:04,746 --> 00:52:06,680 and pretty much everybody was saying, oh, 1234 00:52:06,692 --> 00:52:08,499 there should be other tapes, you know. 1235 00:52:08,499 --> 00:52:09,917 And it could be anywhere else, 1236 00:52:09,917 --> 00:52:11,044 not only in the U.S. 1237 00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:36,159 Hello! How are you? 1238 00:52:36,402 --> 00:52:40,239 So, just the general concern about this type of rumor 1239 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,786 or gossip was not taken too lightly by me. 1240 00:52:44,786 --> 00:52:45,953 So, I, 1241 00:52:45,953 --> 00:52:47,951 after that call, soon after, 1242 00:52:47,963 --> 00:52:50,375 I texted Michael and I said, listen, 1243 00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:54,087 you know,someone is bragging about some tapes. 1244 00:52:54,087 --> 00:52:56,089 I don't think it's a big deal. 1245 00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:58,800 But so you know, 1246 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,887 this is what's going on. And the only thing that I misused, 1247 00:53:02,887 --> 00:53:07,462 I'd say, or I said it in a wrong way, was stop flow of tapes. 1248 00:53:08,116 --> 00:53:09,745 Basically, what I meant, it was 1249 00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:11,829 evening time, you know, we have kids 1250 00:53:11,854 --> 00:53:13,272 and a lot going on. 1251 00:53:13,272 --> 00:53:15,233 A lot of times we speak into the phone. 1252 00:53:15,233 --> 00:53:16,192 I can't remember if 1253 00:53:16,192 --> 00:53:18,236 I was speaking into the phone or was dialing into the phone. 1254 00:53:18,236 --> 00:53:20,696 It was a long time ago, so I said stop flow, 1255 00:53:20,696 --> 00:53:22,532 there are no tapes. 1256 00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:24,632 There is no flow of tapes from Russia. 1257 00:53:25,535 --> 00:53:26,619 Don't worry about that. 1258 00:53:26,619 --> 00:53:28,079 It's not a big deal. 1259 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,332 But you should know that's what's going on. 1260 00:53:31,332 --> 00:53:36,504 There are rumors. And er... Michael was not clear. 1261 00:53:36,504 --> 00:53:38,631 Tapes of what? 1262 00:53:38,631 --> 00:53:42,176 And it was a friendly back and forth, 1263 00:53:42,176 --> 00:53:45,763 not even a phone conversation. The text message ended there. 1264 00:53:45,763 --> 00:53:48,724 We never continued the conversation about that. 1265 00:53:48,724 --> 00:53:53,563 But for Michael to go on a limb and make that up, 1266 00:53:53,563 --> 00:53:56,732 that we had phone conversations, that we discussed these tapes, 1267 00:53:56,732 --> 00:53:58,443 and he sent me on a hunt, 1268 00:53:58,443 --> 00:54:00,629 because he knew that I had business connections in Russia, 1269 00:54:00,654 --> 00:54:04,953 all this, all of that is entirely untrue. 1270 00:54:04,991 --> 00:54:06,159 It's false. 1271 00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:07,577 I was a good friend to Michael. 1272 00:54:07,577 --> 00:54:11,414 I was an important... 1273 00:54:11,414 --> 00:54:15,084 link between the Trump Organization and Georgia 1274 00:54:15,084 --> 00:54:19,130 and the expansion of the Trump brand in that part of the world. 1275 00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:22,191 So he should have been truthful. Kompromat. 1276 00:54:22,216 --> 00:54:26,429 So, it's a Russian word, compromising materials. 1277 00:54:26,429 --> 00:54:30,683 It was really, the whole idea started 1278 00:54:30,683 --> 00:54:33,009 during Stalin, you know, collecting 1279 00:54:33,021 --> 00:54:35,229 compromising materials on people, 1280 00:54:35,229 --> 00:54:37,510 pretty much on anybody, just in case 1281 00:54:37,522 --> 00:54:39,692 that person succeeds in something. 1282 00:54:39,692 --> 00:54:41,396 I think kompromat is everywhere, 1283 00:54:41,408 --> 00:54:43,446 but especially in our culture today, 1284 00:54:43,446 --> 00:54:44,503 we see a lot of kompromat. 1285 00:54:44,785 --> 00:54:46,365 Well, they knocked on the door. 1286 00:54:46,365 --> 00:54:48,534 There were two FBI agents. 1287 00:54:50,037 --> 00:54:51,908 They were part of the Mueller team. 1288 00:54:51,954 --> 00:54:54,305 I invited them in as politely as I 1289 00:54:54,317 --> 00:54:57,084 could, and we sat down and we had a chat 1290 00:54:57,084 --> 00:54:59,159 and chat became a long, 1291 00:54:59,183 --> 00:55:02,048 about 2.5 hour, three hour conversation. 1292 00:55:02,048 --> 00:55:04,726 Which also turned into more of an 1293 00:55:04,738 --> 00:55:07,428 interrogation, and it turned into 1294 00:55:07,428 --> 00:55:10,640 more of a very clear picture that this was not over. 1295 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,851 It was just the beginning of our ordeal. 1296 00:55:13,851 --> 00:55:16,020 I was a gracious host. 1297 00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:19,941 Georgia is known, my native country is known to be, 1298 00:55:19,941 --> 00:55:23,569 first we are hosts and we welcome everyone. 1299 00:55:23,569 --> 00:55:26,155 And that's basically how I behaved. 1300 00:55:26,155 --> 00:55:28,950 And suddenly, 1301 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:32,787 the head prosecutor is throwing you under the bus, 1302 00:55:32,787 --> 00:55:33,871 saying you're Russian. 1303 00:55:33,871 --> 00:55:36,350 We had an almost eight hour conversation 1304 00:55:36,362 --> 00:55:38,793 about Georgia and how Georgia was great 1305 00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:40,429 and how I was born in Georgia and 1306 00:55:40,471 --> 00:55:42,480 how important America was for me. All that. 1307 00:55:42,505 --> 00:55:47,343 And suddenly, she completely disregarded all of that 1308 00:55:47,343 --> 00:55:48,437 and she's telling everybody that 1309 00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:52,443 this guy and his family come from Moscow. 1310 00:55:52,516 --> 00:55:53,407 At that moment, 1311 00:55:53,432 --> 00:55:55,268 I said, I'm going to have to speak up. 1312 00:55:55,268 --> 00:55:57,478 And the fact is I'm not Russian. 1313 00:55:57,478 --> 00:55:59,657 Now, the agenda was to show that 1314 00:55:59,669 --> 00:56:02,066 there was some type of collusion. 1315 00:56:02,067 --> 00:56:05,170 I get it. They were doing their job, you know, 1316 00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:06,337 they were looking into 1317 00:56:06,362 --> 00:56:09,424 every single detail to protect our nation, 1318 00:56:09,495 --> 00:56:12,250 to protect the integrity of the... 1319 00:56:12,326 --> 00:56:16,205 the presidential institute and all this and the election. 1320 00:56:16,205 --> 00:56:18,499 But... I had nothing to do with it. 1321 00:56:18,499 --> 00:56:20,126 I'm not naive. 1322 00:56:20,126 --> 00:56:22,420 I'm not saying, 1323 00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:24,509 oh, there was a big agenda to take 1324 00:56:24,521 --> 00:56:26,382 Trump down and do all of that. 1325 00:56:26,382 --> 00:56:31,053 And... if there is a rumor about the sitting president 1326 00:56:31,053 --> 00:56:34,181 of the United States, you better look into it, for sure. 1327 00:56:34,181 --> 00:56:35,528 Everybody should. 1328 00:56:36,392 --> 00:56:39,395 And I was totally fine with them asking me these questions. 1329 00:56:39,395 --> 00:56:41,188 Why did you send the text message and what was going on. 1330 00:56:41,188 --> 00:56:43,686 But I told them the truth, and I 1331 00:56:43,698 --> 00:56:46,444 thought I did my job as a citizen 1332 00:56:46,444 --> 00:56:48,637 who is trying to help you to understand 1333 00:56:48,661 --> 00:56:50,281 a much bigger picture. 1334 00:56:50,281 --> 00:56:52,031 After the Mueller report referred 1335 00:56:52,043 --> 00:56:53,701 to him as a Russian businessman 1336 00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:55,657 and insinuated that he knew about 1337 00:56:55,669 --> 00:56:56,779 the content of the tapes, 1338 00:56:56,788 --> 00:56:58,763 Giorgi demanded a retraction. 1339 00:56:58,956 --> 00:57:00,875 His request was denied, 1340 00:57:00,875 --> 00:57:04,211 which prompted him to file a lawsuit against Robert Mueller. 1341 00:57:04,211 --> 00:57:06,714 I lost money, I lost my reputation. 1342 00:57:06,714 --> 00:57:08,466 The only thing I'm trying to get out 1343 00:57:08,478 --> 00:57:10,384 of this and everyone's lesson should be 1344 00:57:10,384 --> 00:57:13,054 you should never, ever quit. 1345 00:57:13,054 --> 00:57:14,305 If your name 1346 00:57:14,305 --> 00:57:16,599 and identity, heritage and nationality 1347 00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:18,184 is damaged, 1348 00:57:18,209 --> 00:57:20,568 you should try everything you can to get it back. 1349 00:57:20,812 --> 00:57:24,069 Well, I joined the KGB after 1350 00:57:24,190 --> 00:57:27,193 I graduated from high school. 1351 00:57:27,193 --> 00:57:32,406 Actually, I was accepted because of my father's background. 1352 00:57:32,406 --> 00:57:34,742 He was a KGB officer. 1353 00:57:34,742 --> 00:57:38,704 Although my father, by the way, was against me joining the KGB. 1354 00:57:38,704 --> 00:57:41,248 And I said, why? Said that's dirty work, my son. 1355 00:57:41,248 --> 00:57:43,167 I said, but you spent 20 years there. 1356 00:57:43,167 --> 00:57:44,877 That's why I tell you it's dirty work. 1357 00:57:44,877 --> 00:57:49,173 Well, my main job was to recruit Americans. 1358 00:57:49,173 --> 00:57:54,136 I mean, people with knowledge or access to, well, secrets, 1359 00:57:54,136 --> 00:57:55,680 I mean, 1360 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,725 all sorts of information not available in the media. 1361 00:57:59,725 --> 00:58:02,978 So that's typical spy work, 1362 00:58:02,978 --> 00:58:06,691 and that's what I was actually trained to do. 1363 00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:10,569 Putin was a nobody, I mean in Saint Petersburg, 1364 00:58:10,569 --> 00:58:15,991 just a guy who would knock on my door. 1365 00:58:15,991 --> 00:58:17,952 I had a secretary, the secretary would say, 1366 00:58:17,964 --> 00:58:20,162 some guy came, I let him come in. 1367 00:58:20,162 --> 00:58:21,831 May I have some pictures, 1368 00:58:21,831 --> 00:58:24,875 I mean, documents signed? Oh, of course. 1369 00:58:24,875 --> 00:58:26,293 So that's that. 1370 00:58:26,293 --> 00:58:27,420 That's all I knew about him. 1371 00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:29,672 He had no position. 1372 00:58:29,672 --> 00:58:32,758 I mean, no leadership or anything. 1373 00:58:32,758 --> 00:58:36,262 And so Putin was pulled out from nowhere 1374 00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:40,891 and became an assistant to the mayor of Saint Petersburg. 1375 00:58:40,891 --> 00:58:43,279 Well, Putin proved to be, in that 1376 00:58:43,291 --> 00:58:45,479 sense, well, an efficient guy. 1377 00:58:45,479 --> 00:58:47,273 I mean, and, 1378 00:58:47,273 --> 00:58:50,234 so he did come to Moscow and slowly, 1379 00:58:50,234 --> 00:58:53,487 gradually grew to become the member, 1380 00:58:53,487 --> 00:58:54,964 I mean, actually the chief of the 1381 00:58:54,989 --> 00:58:57,742 Russian internal Security - the KGB. 1382 00:58:57,742 --> 00:58:59,669 So when Putin called me a traitor, 1383 00:58:59,681 --> 00:59:01,287 I called him a war criminal. 1384 00:59:01,287 --> 00:59:03,732 And I said the war in Chechnya one day 1385 00:59:03,767 --> 00:59:07,168 will reveal the ugly nature 1386 00:59:07,168 --> 00:59:10,588 of the guy who is running Russia today. 1387 00:59:10,588 --> 00:59:12,732 Putin will go down in Russian history 1388 00:59:12,757 --> 00:59:17,887 as an ambitious, cruel, I mean, inhuman, 1389 00:59:17,887 --> 00:59:21,724 I mean, performer of his own ambitions 1390 00:59:21,724 --> 00:59:25,060 and his own, you know, desires. 1391 00:59:25,060 --> 00:59:29,648 Well, in my view, he's just a killer. 1392 00:59:29,648 --> 00:59:32,318 Putin has been trying to 1393 00:59:32,318 --> 00:59:35,279 intervene into practically 1394 00:59:35,279 --> 00:59:38,824 every major country's internal affairs. 1395 00:59:38,824 --> 00:59:43,746 This is part of the legacy of the Soviet mentality. 1396 00:59:43,746 --> 00:59:46,624 And Putin, in many ways, remains 1397 00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:50,544 loyal to the Soviet, you know, mentality. 1398 00:59:50,544 --> 00:59:54,215 There are some similarities between Trump and Putin, 1399 00:59:54,215 --> 00:59:57,760 I believe, in the human and political way. 1400 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,096 Putin's, as I know him, 1401 01:00:01,841 --> 01:00:03,517 you know, really 1402 01:00:03,557 --> 01:00:07,102 (his) main goal today is to stay in power 1403 01:00:07,102 --> 01:00:11,315 as long as he can. And he will do anything to, 1404 01:00:11,315 --> 01:00:13,709 you know, remove any obstacles 1405 01:00:13,721 --> 01:00:16,529 or will commit any crime, really, 1406 01:00:16,529 --> 01:00:19,490 just to stay in power in Russia. 1407 01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:24,036 He knows how to take advantage of these things because he, 1408 01:00:24,036 --> 01:00:27,289 in his position as a former KGB guy, 1409 01:00:27,289 --> 01:00:29,372 he was very much involved in the 1410 01:00:29,384 --> 01:00:32,002 sorts of things which would put people 1411 01:00:32,002 --> 01:00:35,130 in difficult positions where kompromat 1412 01:00:35,130 --> 01:00:38,008 was an inevitable part of their lives. 1413 01:00:38,008 --> 01:00:42,513 Well, to place a naked lady into his room, 1414 01:00:42,513 --> 01:00:45,529 you expected that for the guy, 1415 01:00:45,554 --> 01:00:47,742 but that pictures would be taken, you know? 1416 01:00:47,936 --> 01:00:52,319 In that sense the KGB in the... 1417 01:00:52,356 --> 01:00:54,117 post-Soviet days have not 1418 01:00:54,129 --> 01:00:56,610 changed much. In the Soviet days, 1419 01:00:56,610 --> 01:01:00,906 they would use more direct ways to get rid of people just, 1420 01:01:00,906 --> 01:01:05,619 you know, either in jail or just execution. 1421 01:01:05,619 --> 01:01:09,081 In Putin's Russia, 1422 01:01:09,081 --> 01:01:13,252 it's more to get people hooked, 1423 01:01:13,252 --> 01:01:17,923 and with some information related to their either 1424 01:01:17,923 --> 01:01:23,262 financial indiscretions or human, I mean, sexual... 1425 01:01:23,262 --> 01:01:27,892 that's more typical of the current Russian regime. 1426 01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:31,854 Well, I could not tell you anything 1427 01:01:31,854 --> 01:01:35,524 about now since I've been out of Russia for many years. 1428 01:01:35,524 --> 01:01:41,030 But there were several hotels, public places, 1429 01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:43,365 which were controlled by the KGB. 1430 01:01:43,365 --> 01:01:46,911 And if necessary, the special operations 1431 01:01:46,911 --> 01:01:50,831 would be provided by the KGB inside these hotels, 1432 01:01:50,831 --> 01:01:54,919 where they would control the personal behavior and everything 1433 01:01:54,919 --> 01:01:57,963 of the people who they were interested in, 1434 01:01:57,963 --> 01:02:01,179 you know. And that has not changed much. 1435 01:02:02,469 --> 01:02:05,627 You should not forget Putin is a former KGB guy 1436 01:02:05,721 --> 01:02:09,516 and his mentality in many ways remains the same. 1437 01:02:09,516 --> 01:02:13,812 Trump's reputation in the circles which I am familiar 1438 01:02:13,812 --> 01:02:18,525 with inside the U.S. you know, is not a good one. 1439 01:02:18,525 --> 01:02:21,904 The fact that Trump was interested in the 1440 01:02:21,904 --> 01:02:25,741 Russian, well, female community, let's put it 1441 01:02:25,741 --> 01:02:27,619 this way, is a known fact and 1442 01:02:27,631 --> 01:02:29,912 it's known to the U.S government. 1443 01:02:29,912 --> 01:02:32,425 I know the U.S government was informed 1444 01:02:32,437 --> 01:02:34,833 about it by the Russian authorities. 1445 01:02:34,833 --> 01:02:35,918 I would say that 1446 01:02:35,919 --> 01:02:40,564 Mr. Putin is rather discreet because if he starts 1447 01:02:40,589 --> 01:02:45,928 sharing this information widely he may be in trouble himself. 1448 01:02:45,928 --> 01:02:48,117 Because there is also information about 1449 01:02:48,142 --> 01:02:50,707 President Putin as well. (laughs) 1450 01:02:50,953 --> 01:02:52,233 (dramatic music) 1451 01:02:52,851 --> 01:02:54,328 Through my experience leading 1452 01:02:54,340 --> 01:02:56,188 counterintelligence investigations 1453 01:02:56,188 --> 01:02:59,274 for the FBI working against the Russian 1454 01:02:59,274 --> 01:03:02,695 intelligence services, I can tell you 1455 01:03:02,695 --> 01:03:05,155 that it would shock me to learn 1456 01:03:05,155 --> 01:03:08,283 that there is no file 1457 01:03:08,283 --> 01:03:12,037 on Donald Trump in Moscow 1458 01:03:12,037 --> 01:03:15,749 and at Russian intelligence service headquarters. 1459 01:03:15,749 --> 01:03:19,545 In fact, that would be a complete 1460 01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:22,506 anomaly from how they conduct themselves 1461 01:03:22,506 --> 01:03:25,214 when they spot, assess and ultimately 1462 01:03:25,226 --> 01:03:27,302 target American businessmen, 1463 01:03:27,302 --> 01:03:30,347 American candidates for office at all levels. 1464 01:03:30,347 --> 01:03:32,766 So I've never been in the rumor business, 1465 01:03:32,766 --> 01:03:35,853 but we certainly are aware, right, that 1466 01:03:35,853 --> 01:03:39,648 as a public that there's this 1467 01:03:39,648 --> 01:03:44,611 accusation, allegation out there that somehow Trump 1468 01:03:44,611 --> 01:03:49,199 may have been compromised with prostitutes in a hotel room 1469 01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:52,509 at the Ritz-Carlton, Moscow, in or 1470 01:03:52,521 --> 01:03:55,748 around the Miss Universe pageant. 1471 01:03:55,748 --> 01:03:57,666 The Ritz-Carlton, Moscow, 1472 01:03:57,666 --> 01:04:00,669 and other westernized hotels 1473 01:04:00,669 --> 01:04:02,800 in Russia, are highly compromised by 1474 01:04:02,812 --> 01:04:04,840 the Russian intelligence services. 1475 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,468 You are under audio and video surveillance 1476 01:04:07,468 --> 01:04:11,221 much of the time in such hotels. 1477 01:04:11,221 --> 01:04:15,225 And if such a thing happened or something like that happened, 1478 01:04:15,225 --> 01:04:19,229 it would almost definitely have been recorded. 1479 01:04:19,229 --> 01:04:21,233 Trump's reaction to the allegation 1480 01:04:21,245 --> 01:04:22,858 only added to the curiosity 1481 01:04:22,858 --> 01:04:26,737 of former FBI Chief Comey and former Agent Stzrok. 1482 01:04:26,737 --> 01:04:28,614 He says he may want me to investigate it 1483 01:04:28,626 --> 01:04:30,365 to prove that it didn't happen. 1484 01:04:30,365 --> 01:04:32,761 And then he says, something that 1485 01:04:32,786 --> 01:04:34,344 distracted me because he said, you know, 1486 01:04:34,369 --> 01:04:36,073 if there's even a 1% chance my wife 1487 01:04:36,098 --> 01:04:39,541 thinks that's true, that's terrible. 1488 01:04:39,541 --> 01:04:41,776 And I, and I remember thinking, how could 1489 01:04:41,788 --> 01:04:44,254 your wife think there's a 1% chance you were 1490 01:04:44,254 --> 01:04:46,757 with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow? 1491 01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:49,374 I'm a flawed human being, but 1492 01:04:49,635 --> 01:04:51,458 there’s literally zero chance that 1493 01:04:51,470 --> 01:04:53,305 my wife would think that was true. 1494 01:04:53,305 --> 01:04:54,515 So what kind of marriage 1495 01:04:54,515 --> 01:04:56,058 to what kind of man does your wife think 1496 01:04:56,058 --> 01:04:58,644 there's only a 99% chance you didn't do that? 1497 01:04:58,811 --> 01:05:01,355 His response was there were no prostitutes, 1498 01:05:01,355 --> 01:05:02,706 there were never any prostitutes. 1499 01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:06,459 If you didn't, if that information, 1500 01:05:06,610 --> 01:05:09,613 if that activity had not occurred, 1501 01:05:09,613 --> 01:05:10,864 a logical person, 1502 01:05:10,864 --> 01:05:13,200 your response is... if I accuse you, 1503 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,620 if I accuse anybody of something that's absolutely wrong, 1504 01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:18,211 people tend to get angry and they 1505 01:05:18,223 --> 01:05:19,873 flat out deny it. Never happened. 1506 01:05:19,898 --> 01:05:21,942 That's wrong. Absolutely not. 1507 01:05:21,975 --> 01:05:24,645 But to sort of hedge and say, 1508 01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:27,565 there were no prostitutes, is a very, 1509 01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:29,733 is a very unusual response. 1510 01:05:29,758 --> 01:05:30,884 And it is a response 1511 01:05:30,884 --> 01:05:33,084 that leads me to question whether, 1512 01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:35,055 in fact, that event did occur. 1513 01:05:35,055 --> 01:05:37,516 I kind of believe in the pee pee tapes. 1514 01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:40,561 And I'll tell you why. I believe in the pee pee tape 1515 01:05:40,561 --> 01:05:45,274 because it's so in character, and it's the kind of thing 1516 01:05:45,274 --> 01:05:48,152 that you wouldn't even think to make up, you know what I mean? 1517 01:05:48,152 --> 01:05:50,098 Like, if I was going to make something up 1518 01:05:50,110 --> 01:05:52,114 like, oh, whatever, he was with women and, 1519 01:05:52,114 --> 01:05:55,325 you know, they've been using that kompromat for years, right? 1520 01:05:55,325 --> 01:05:57,035 They get you in a hotel and they photograph you 1521 01:05:57,035 --> 01:05:59,359 with a... having sex with someone, like that's 1522 01:05:59,371 --> 01:06:01,373 their standard operating procedure. 1523 01:06:01,373 --> 01:06:02,652 But what Trump wanted the 1524 01:06:02,664 --> 01:06:04,626 prostitutes to do was pee on the bed 1525 01:06:04,626 --> 01:06:05,919 because Obama had been there 1526 01:06:05,919 --> 01:06:09,173 and he just hated Obama so much he just wanted to piss on Obama? 1527 01:06:09,173 --> 01:06:11,842 Only a malignant narcissist would be that sick. 1528 01:06:11,842 --> 01:06:13,343 I mean, just have sex with the women. 1529 01:06:13,343 --> 01:06:15,012 But you know, that would be normal. 1530 01:06:15,012 --> 01:06:17,264 So for him, it's more 1531 01:06:17,264 --> 01:06:19,308 sexually exciting 1532 01:06:19,308 --> 01:06:21,989 to pee on Obama's bed, right, than 1533 01:06:22,001 --> 01:06:24,771 to have sex with a beautiful woman. 1534 01:06:24,771 --> 01:06:26,815 That's... a perversion. 1535 01:06:26,815 --> 01:06:29,818 And that's exactly the way in which he is perverse. 1536 01:06:29,860 --> 01:06:31,635 And so it became apparent to me 1537 01:06:31,647 --> 01:06:33,780 very early on that this was someone 1538 01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:36,060 who was extremely dangerous. 1539 01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:38,598 Not just someone who had a mental illness, 1540 01:06:38,702 --> 01:06:40,523 but someone who literally had 1541 01:06:40,535 --> 01:06:42,748 the most dangerous mental illness 1542 01:06:42,748 --> 01:06:44,674 a person can have. 1543 01:06:45,417 --> 01:06:47,336 And still be capable 1544 01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:50,000 of actually carrying out the office of president. 1545 01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:52,221 Malignant narcissism is actually not 1546 01:06:52,244 --> 01:06:54,301 a diagnosis you'll find in the DSM. 1547 01:06:54,301 --> 01:06:56,678 It was actually introduced by the famed analyst 1548 01:06:56,678 --> 01:07:00,432 Erich Fromm, who himself escaped the Nazis in the 40s. 1549 01:07:00,432 --> 01:07:04,311 And he invented the diagnosis or came up with the diagnosis 1550 01:07:04,311 --> 01:07:07,122 to explain the psychology of Hitler and 1551 01:07:07,134 --> 01:07:09,816 other malignant narcissistic leaders, 1552 01:07:09,816 --> 01:07:12,382 other grandiose, murderous leaders who 1553 01:07:12,394 --> 01:07:14,905 have been with us throughout history. 1554 01:07:14,905 --> 01:07:16,865 So Hitler was not a one-off. 1555 01:07:16,865 --> 01:07:18,624 He was maybe the worst or most 1556 01:07:18,636 --> 01:07:20,702 extreme example, but he's a type, 1557 01:07:20,702 --> 01:07:22,955 and that's what Fromm was saying. 1558 01:07:22,955 --> 01:07:27,876 And the type basically has four components: one, narcissism. 1559 01:07:27,876 --> 01:07:30,337 Obviously, we all know Trump's a narcissist, 1560 01:07:30,337 --> 01:07:31,807 but the other three components 1561 01:07:31,819 --> 01:07:33,548 are equally important: paranoia. 1562 01:07:33,548 --> 01:07:36,969 So his constant feeling that he is being persecuted, 1563 01:07:36,969 --> 01:07:39,846 he is constantly feeling aggrieved. 1564 01:07:39,846 --> 01:07:43,600 His projection onto other people that they are, 1565 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,922 whether they're minorities or his 1566 01:07:45,934 --> 01:07:48,063 opponents, that they are evil. 1567 01:07:48,063 --> 01:07:52,150 And therefore deserving of terrible punishment. 1568 01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:53,902 All of that is part of his paranoia. 1569 01:07:53,902 --> 01:07:55,754 And, of course, his crazy conspiracy 1570 01:07:55,766 --> 01:07:57,781 theories are also part of his paranoia. 1571 01:07:57,781 --> 01:08:01,326 And the third component is antisocial personality disorder, 1572 01:08:01,326 --> 01:08:03,252 or what used to be called psychopathy. 1573 01:08:03,659 --> 01:08:06,790 Meaning that he has no moral center. 1574 01:08:06,790 --> 01:08:09,293 He's a constant liar. 1575 01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:13,327 He violates the rights of others, exploits others, 1576 01:08:13,381 --> 01:08:15,804 has no sense of guilt or anxiety 1577 01:08:15,808 --> 01:08:18,343 about the bad things that he does. 1578 01:08:18,343 --> 01:08:21,179 So that's the criminal personality disorder, basically. 1579 01:08:21,179 --> 01:08:23,473 And all of the people in jail, most of them have antisocial 1580 01:08:23,473 --> 01:08:24,808 personality disorders. 1581 01:08:24,808 --> 01:08:27,261 And the fourth component is... sadism, 1582 01:08:27,273 --> 01:08:29,396 that he actually gets pleasure 1583 01:08:29,396 --> 01:08:32,016 from harming his enemies or taking 1584 01:08:32,028 --> 01:08:34,735 revenge or humiliating other people 1585 01:08:34,735 --> 01:08:37,863 or subjugating them, dominating them 1586 01:08:37,863 --> 01:08:41,158 in ways that are humiliating and show his great power. 1587 01:08:41,158 --> 01:08:43,047 I recognized early on that this 1588 01:08:43,059 --> 01:08:46,315 was a very, very dangerous, Hitler-like character. 1589 01:08:46,496 --> 01:08:48,771 And so that's really kind of part of how 1590 01:08:48,783 --> 01:08:50,959 the 'duty to warn movement' got started. 1591 01:08:50,959 --> 01:08:52,169 It's not just an ethical principle, 1592 01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:54,428 it's a legal law that if you become 1593 01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:57,090 aware that a patient might hurt somebody, 1594 01:08:57,090 --> 01:08:59,217 you have a duty to warn that person. 1595 01:08:59,217 --> 01:09:03,055 Hence, our feeling was, if we have a duty to warn one person 1596 01:09:03,055 --> 01:09:04,875 because as mental health professionals 1597 01:09:04,887 --> 01:09:06,391 we realize they may be at risk, 1598 01:09:06,391 --> 01:09:08,357 what's our duty to 300 million people? 1599 01:09:08,819 --> 01:09:09,819 (laughs) 1600 01:09:10,329 --> 01:09:12,247 It's got to be 300 million times greater. 1601 01:09:12,272 --> 01:09:15,275 So then, what is Trump's defense to the allegation? 1602 01:09:15,275 --> 01:09:17,861 Does anyone really believe that story? 1603 01:09:17,861 --> 01:09:21,156 I'm also very much of a germaphobe, by the way. 1604 01:09:21,156 --> 01:09:23,116 Believe me. 1605 01:09:23,116 --> 01:09:24,159 I had to explain... 1606 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:27,079 they said, sir, they said when you were in Russia... 1607 01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:29,998 well, I was there for so short a period... 1608 01:09:29,998 --> 01:09:32,793 Trump tried to claim that he didn't stay overnight in Russia 1609 01:09:32,793 --> 01:09:35,346 during the night in question, but flight 1610 01:09:35,358 --> 01:09:37,923 records later revealed that to be false. 1611 01:09:37,923 --> 01:09:39,299 Big surprise. Right? 1612 01:09:39,299 --> 01:09:43,261 And they said this thing with the golden shower, 1613 01:09:43,261 --> 01:09:45,597 and I said I didn't care about the other stuff. 1614 01:09:45,597 --> 01:09:49,101 The other stuff was, you know, nuclear... 1615 01:09:49,101 --> 01:09:50,227 I didn't worry about that. 1616 01:09:50,227 --> 01:09:52,455 The golden shower was a problem for me. 1617 01:09:54,064 --> 01:09:56,858 And I said to our great first lady... 1618 01:09:56,858 --> 01:09:59,277 She said, nope, that one you didn't do. 1619 01:09:59,277 --> 01:10:00,529 See, I'm a germaphobe. 1620 01:10:00,529 --> 01:10:02,572 She said, that one you didn't do. 1621 01:10:02,597 --> 01:10:04,683 So she knew immediately - I had no problem. 1622 01:10:05,326 --> 01:10:07,696 I said, whew, that was a close one. 1623 01:10:07,786 --> 01:10:08,928 That wasn't good. 1624 01:10:09,414 --> 01:10:11,164 Actually, that one she didn't believe 1625 01:10:11,164 --> 01:10:13,583 because she said he's a germaphobe. He's not into that, 1626 01:10:13,583 --> 01:10:14,938 you know? 1627 01:10:15,156 --> 01:10:16,436 (brooding music) 1628 01:10:17,771 --> 01:10:20,190 He's not into golden showers, as they say 1629 01:10:20,215 --> 01:10:21,697 they call them. He's not. 1630 01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:23,971 I don't like that idea. 1631 01:10:26,431 --> 01:10:28,240 No, I didn't. I thought that would be a big problem. 1632 01:10:28,265 --> 01:10:29,963 I was going to have a rough night, 1633 01:10:29,975 --> 01:10:31,685 but that one she was very good on. 1634 01:10:31,685 --> 01:10:35,313 She said, no, you're okay on that one. 1635 01:10:35,313 --> 01:10:37,399 So what do you think? Should we believe him? 1636 01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:40,553 I say we ask someone who might just know: me. 1637 01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:43,660 But then the defense is, oh, there's no way he 1638 01:10:43,663 --> 01:10:46,324 would ever do that because he's a germaphobe. 1639 01:10:46,324 --> 01:10:47,576 And, you know, that's one of the things 1640 01:10:47,576 --> 01:10:49,202 that people try to say that I'm making it up 1641 01:10:49,202 --> 01:10:51,301 because he's such a germaphobe, that he wouldn't... 1642 01:10:51,544 --> 01:10:52,544 (laughs) 1643 01:10:53,749 --> 01:10:55,892 In my multiple encounters 1644 01:10:55,917 --> 01:10:59,463 with him, he was definitely not a germaphobe. 1645 01:10:59,463 --> 01:11:02,632 He definitely stuck his little pointy tongue in my mouth. 1646 01:11:02,632 --> 01:11:04,280 He's the worst kisser on earth, 1647 01:11:04,292 --> 01:11:06,219 but definitely an open-mouth kiss. 1648 01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:09,721 And didn't even volunteer to use a condom. 1649 01:11:09,807 --> 01:11:12,534 Not only did he not use a condom or offer to use a condom, 1650 01:11:12,559 --> 01:11:14,936 he didn't even discuss the possibility of it. 1651 01:11:14,936 --> 01:11:16,676 I mean, he doesn't even know if I washed 1652 01:11:16,688 --> 01:11:18,482 my hands when I came out of the bathroom. 1653 01:11:18,482 --> 01:11:20,520 He just pounced there in his underwear 1654 01:11:20,532 --> 01:11:22,319 when I came out and surprised me. 1655 01:11:22,611 --> 01:11:25,572 Now, I gotta say, if you're not the one getting peed on, 1656 01:11:25,572 --> 01:11:27,158 being a germaphobe really doesn't 1657 01:11:27,170 --> 01:11:28,533 have anything to do with it. 1658 01:11:28,533 --> 01:11:30,160 If they're across the room, 1659 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,370 that's not touching you anyway. 1660 01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:34,831 So does Trump not always tell the truth? 1661 01:11:34,831 --> 01:11:36,541 Well, let's ask an expert. 1662 01:11:36,541 --> 01:11:39,961 So I wrote up all of these findings 1663 01:11:39,961 --> 01:11:45,175 for the Washington Post in an op-ed titled I Study Liars. 1664 01:11:45,175 --> 01:11:49,971 I've never seen one like President Trump. At this point, 1665 01:11:49,971 --> 01:11:53,558 the first year of his presidency, he was telling 1666 01:11:53,558 --> 01:11:57,437 an average of about six lies a day. 1667 01:11:57,437 --> 01:12:00,315 And I thought that was remarkable. 1668 01:12:00,315 --> 01:12:03,985 You know, that was so much more than ordinary people. 1669 01:12:03,985 --> 01:12:08,823 He was just getting started for a grand total over the course 1670 01:12:08,823 --> 01:12:15,330 of his presidency, of 30,573 1671 01:12:15,330 --> 01:12:18,667 lies, flip flops, or misleading statements. 1672 01:12:18,667 --> 01:12:21,545 It's absolutely 1673 01:12:21,545 --> 01:12:22,837 astounding. 1674 01:12:22,837 --> 01:12:29,177 A lie happens any time you intentionally mislead someone. 1675 01:12:29,177 --> 01:12:32,055 So people lie for lots of reasons. 1676 01:12:32,055 --> 01:12:37,018 But ordinary people lie for two main reasons. 1677 01:12:37,018 --> 01:12:42,107 The first is, they lie to serve themselves. 1678 01:12:42,155 --> 01:12:44,275 They lie to get what they want, 1679 01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:47,422 to look better, to spare themselves 1680 01:12:47,487 --> 01:12:52,117 from embarrassment or shame or blame or anything negative. 1681 01:12:52,117 --> 01:12:55,829 So it's all about themselves. 1682 01:12:55,829 --> 01:12:59,791 They also lie to be nice to other people. 1683 01:12:59,791 --> 01:13:02,794 They lie to flatter other people, 1684 01:13:02,794 --> 01:13:07,215 to advantage them, to be kind to them, to spare them 1685 01:13:07,215 --> 01:13:11,261 from any embarrassment or conflict or anything else 1686 01:13:11,261 --> 01:13:13,346 other people don't want. 1687 01:13:13,346 --> 01:13:16,961 When I studied my ordinary people, 1688 01:13:17,059 --> 01:13:19,888 there was a category of a kind of lie 1689 01:13:19,936 --> 01:13:25,317 that hardly anyone told, and that was a cruel lie. 1690 01:13:25,317 --> 01:13:30,071 A lie told to be mean to someone else, to disparage them, 1691 01:13:30,071 --> 01:13:34,868 to make them look like a fool, to hurt them, to insult them. 1692 01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:37,621 The Atlantic magazine published 1693 01:13:37,621 --> 01:13:40,665 an article with the title 1694 01:13:40,665 --> 01:13:44,044 'The Cruelty is the Point.' 1695 01:13:44,044 --> 01:13:47,005 And so as we got to know Trump better, 1696 01:13:47,005 --> 01:13:50,967 we realized this is who he is. 1697 01:13:50,967 --> 01:13:53,219 The cruelty is the point. 1698 01:13:53,219 --> 01:13:56,598 I think one of the motivations 1699 01:13:56,598 --> 01:14:00,310 behind Trump's cruelty and his lies 1700 01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:04,064 is that he loves shock value. 1701 01:14:04,064 --> 01:14:09,110 And, it's not just that he's shocking people, 1702 01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:10,911 although that's a big part of it, 1703 01:14:10,936 --> 01:14:14,199 but that his followers love it. 1704 01:14:14,199 --> 01:14:16,534 Trump is just like, 1705 01:14:16,534 --> 01:14:20,622 here I am, I'm going to say whatever I want. 1706 01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:22,231 And if Trump is re-elected? 1707 01:14:22,255 --> 01:14:23,580 Oh my God! 1708 01:14:24,918 --> 01:14:29,381 Oh, that is so horrifying a prospect. 1709 01:14:29,381 --> 01:14:32,008 And I guess I would say, you know, 1710 01:14:32,033 --> 01:14:33,778 as if there were any limits before, 1711 01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:36,387 there wouldn't be any now. 1712 01:14:36,888 --> 01:14:41,518 But, I guess the one difference is that 1713 01:14:41,518 --> 01:14:44,066 I think, or at least hope, that the 1714 01:14:44,091 --> 01:14:47,565 media would be a little bit savvier. 1715 01:14:47,565 --> 01:14:50,360 I mean, I remember having, 1716 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,882 you know, the networks on or CNN on 1717 01:14:54,907 --> 01:14:58,169 in the background when I was doing something, and they would 1718 01:14:58,201 --> 01:15:02,163 show shots of Trump's plane 1719 01:15:02,163 --> 01:15:05,166 arriving for one of his rallies. 1720 01:15:05,166 --> 01:15:07,669 This was before he was elected president. 1721 01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:11,715 You know, he had them twisted around his finger. 1722 01:15:11,715 --> 01:15:13,904 They gave him so much free media, 1723 01:15:13,916 --> 01:15:16,052 and they didn't know how to deal 1724 01:15:16,052 --> 01:15:19,597 with all these lies and this brazenness. 1725 01:15:19,597 --> 01:15:22,694 It even took them a while to call the lies, lies, right? 1726 01:15:22,768 --> 01:15:23,774 (brooding music) 1727 01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:25,854 So Trump's claim of being a germaphobe? 1728 01:15:25,854 --> 01:15:27,662 I'm also very much of a germaphobe, 1729 01:15:27,694 --> 01:15:29,762 by the way. Believe me. 1730 01:15:29,807 --> 01:15:31,039 Well, if you want my opinion. 1731 01:15:31,228 --> 01:15:33,184 (laughs) 1732 01:15:34,493 --> 01:15:36,253 (machine rising in tension) 1733 01:15:36,415 --> 01:15:37,827 (alarm sound) 1734 01:15:37,879 --> 01:15:38,879 (explosion) 1735 01:15:43,496 --> 01:15:45,582 Of course, the media had a field day 1736 01:15:45,582 --> 01:15:47,020 with the allegation. 1737 01:15:47,790 --> 01:15:50,449 (dramatic choral music) 1738 01:16:00,875 --> 01:16:02,555 (choral music crescendos) 1739 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,448 Hey, ABC news, I'd like to ask you 1740 01:16:10,460 --> 01:16:12,609 about your big Russian pee pee party. 1741 01:16:12,609 --> 01:16:14,816 No, no, I am not talking about the pee pee... 1742 01:16:14,895 --> 01:16:15,895 (laughing) 1743 01:16:16,488 --> 01:16:18,573 because it didn't happen, 1744 01:16:18,573 --> 01:16:19,866 and it wasn't as cool as it sounds. 1745 01:16:19,866 --> 01:16:21,034 Next question. 1746 01:16:21,034 --> 01:16:24,871 Room 1101, the presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton Hotel. 1747 01:16:24,871 --> 01:16:27,582 I rented it. The room we've heard so much about. 1748 01:16:27,582 --> 01:16:29,793 And yet, no one has come to check it out. 1749 01:16:29,793 --> 01:16:31,753 I don't know why. 1750 01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:33,922 It's not even like it's in the past. 1751 01:16:33,922 --> 01:16:35,544 You're in history. 1752 01:16:35,569 --> 01:16:36,569 (laughing) 1753 01:16:36,674 --> 01:16:38,343 You're in it. 1754 01:16:38,343 --> 01:16:40,711 I'm saying the pee pee tape supposedly 1755 01:16:40,723 --> 01:16:43,348 took place on that bed is what I'm saying. 1756 01:16:43,348 --> 01:16:46,142 Pee pee tape, pee pee tape. 1757 01:16:46,143 --> 01:16:47,190 Roll 'em. 1758 01:16:49,385 --> 01:16:51,175 (sniggering) 1759 01:17:00,783 --> 01:17:01,783 (laughing) 1760 01:17:02,158 --> 01:17:04,661 I am Samantha Bee. 1761 01:17:04,661 --> 01:17:06,120 Welcome to Full Frontal. 1762 01:17:06,247 --> 01:17:09,350 Hallelujah! It's comedy Christmas! 1763 01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:10,892 Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God! 1764 01:17:10,923 --> 01:17:13,372 Il Duce likes to douse beds in floozy pee. 1765 01:17:13,419 --> 01:17:14,419 (laughing) 1766 01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:18,925 Of course, the true victim here is that memory foam mattress. 1767 01:17:18,925 --> 01:17:21,135 It... can't ever forget. 1768 01:17:21,225 --> 01:17:23,225 (indistinct dialogue) (laughing) 1769 01:17:23,972 --> 01:17:26,432 So how did the media handle the allegation? 1770 01:17:26,432 --> 01:17:28,060 Well, the media completely dropped 1771 01:17:28,072 --> 01:17:29,853 the ball with the issue of kompromat. 1772 01:17:29,854 --> 01:17:33,370 You're right, the salacious pee pee tape, you know, idea... 1773 01:17:34,233 --> 01:17:35,500 Whatever's on the tape, 1774 01:17:35,525 --> 01:17:37,234 the important thing is that our president 1775 01:17:37,259 --> 01:17:40,446 is compromised by a foreign adversary. 1776 01:17:40,446 --> 01:17:41,614 That's the important thing. 1777 01:17:41,614 --> 01:17:42,970 I don't care what's on the tape. 1778 01:17:42,992 --> 01:17:44,206 What I care about is that our 1779 01:17:44,217 --> 01:17:46,183 president is working for the enemy. 1780 01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:47,887 Christopher Steele 1781 01:17:47,912 --> 01:17:50,623 thinks he knows why nobody has seen the tape. 1782 01:17:50,623 --> 01:17:54,002 So how do you explain if that tape does indeed exist, 1783 01:17:54,002 --> 01:17:55,336 it hasn't been released? 1784 01:17:55,336 --> 01:17:56,743 Well, it hasn't needed to be released. 1785 01:17:56,767 --> 01:17:57,755 Why not? 1786 01:17:57,755 --> 01:17:59,947 Because I think the Russians felt they got 1787 01:17:59,959 --> 01:18:02,010 pretty good value out of Donald Trump.. 1788 01:18:02,010 --> 01:18:03,177 when he was president of the U.S. 1789 01:18:03,177 --> 01:18:07,599 In 2019, a mysterious videotape appeared online. 1790 01:18:07,599 --> 01:18:09,985 The video escaped the attention of the media 1791 01:18:09,997 --> 01:18:12,395 except for one online magazine. 1792 01:18:13,688 --> 01:18:17,233 After an exhaustive review of the tape, Slate magazine 1793 01:18:17,233 --> 01:18:19,527 determined that it was a fake. 1794 01:18:21,404 --> 01:18:22,864 Probably. 1795 01:18:22,864 --> 01:18:24,763 The Senate Intelligence Committee 1796 01:18:24,775 --> 01:18:26,910 said that it was aware of a realistic 1797 01:18:26,910 --> 01:18:29,517 and well- resourced but fake video 1798 01:18:29,529 --> 01:18:31,998 of someone who looks like Trump. 1799 01:18:31,998 --> 01:18:34,834 The Senate never told us why they thought it was a fake. 1800 01:18:34,834 --> 01:18:38,546 The rest of the footnote in their report? It was redacted. 1801 01:18:38,546 --> 01:18:40,965 So why does Trump keep talking about the tape? 1802 01:18:40,965 --> 01:18:42,967 I'm not into golden showers... 1803 01:18:42,967 --> 01:18:44,556 The golden shower...golden 1804 01:18:44,568 --> 01:18:46,846 shower...golden showers as they say 1805 01:18:46,846 --> 01:18:49,057 they call them. 1806 01:18:49,057 --> 01:18:50,934 Trump does protest too much. 1807 01:18:50,959 --> 01:18:52,752 He keeps bringing up the pee pee tape. 1808 01:18:52,894 --> 01:18:53,811 Right. 1809 01:18:53,811 --> 01:18:55,448 If it were really just ridiculous like 1810 01:18:55,473 --> 01:18:56,738 you would just sort of dismiss it. 1811 01:18:56,815 --> 01:18:57,707 You wouldn't keep... 1812 01:18:57,732 --> 01:19:00,546 But again, everything with Trump is projection or confession. 1813 01:19:00,694 --> 01:19:02,659 You know? So the fact that he keeps bringing it up 1814 01:19:02,695 --> 01:19:05,281 is another one of the reasons to believe that it's true. 1815 01:19:05,281 --> 01:19:07,325 The fact that he keeps bringing it up to deny it. 1816 01:19:07,325 --> 01:19:09,869 Could the tape actually be real? 1817 01:19:09,906 --> 01:19:11,684 What might it look like? 1818 01:19:11,791 --> 01:19:14,148 (fanfare) 1819 01:19:29,275 --> 01:19:30,829 (urgent music) 1820 01:19:38,606 --> 01:19:41,734 Mr. Trump, welcome to Moscow! 1821 01:19:41,734 --> 01:19:43,152 Hi girls. 1822 01:19:43,152 --> 01:19:44,612 No one's taping this, right? 1823 01:19:44,612 --> 01:19:46,572 Don't worry. In Russia, 1824 01:19:46,572 --> 01:19:48,908 we would never tape anyone. 1825 01:19:48,908 --> 01:19:50,910 Everyone is free now, 1826 01:19:50,910 --> 01:19:52,537 anything goes. 1827 01:19:52,537 --> 01:19:53,955 Okay, great. 1828 01:19:53,955 --> 01:19:55,878 I like the sound of that. 1829 01:19:55,903 --> 01:19:58,229 Whoa! Who's that for, the Hulk? 1830 01:19:58,253 --> 01:19:59,460 Oligarchs. 1831 01:19:59,460 --> 01:20:01,629 They want much of everything. 1832 01:20:01,629 --> 01:20:05,508 Big mansions, big yachts, big party. 1833 01:20:05,509 --> 01:20:08,194 Hey, the oligarchs are welcome at Mar-A-Lago 1834 01:20:08,219 --> 01:20:10,805 any time Melania is away. 1835 01:20:10,805 --> 01:20:11,973 So that's the one? 1836 01:20:11,973 --> 01:20:14,618 That's the bed Obama slept in? 1837 01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:15,945 I'm supposed to believe that? 1838 01:20:16,383 --> 01:20:17,383 Yes. 1839 01:20:17,729 --> 01:20:19,772 Okay, good enough for me. 1840 01:20:19,772 --> 01:20:22,025 Let's get to it! 1841 01:20:22,025 --> 01:20:25,945 I am starting to like Russia. 1842 01:20:25,945 --> 01:20:30,158 Cloudy with a chance of rain, if you know what I mean. 1843 01:20:30,158 --> 01:20:32,577 Beautiful. Just beautiful. 1844 01:20:32,577 --> 01:20:33,995 Might have to move here. 1845 01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:36,248 Donald, take off your clothes. 1846 01:20:36,272 --> 01:20:38,444 Me? No way! 1847 01:20:38,791 --> 01:20:40,043 Oh, okay, 1848 01:20:40,043 --> 01:20:41,806 if you insist. 1849 01:20:42,545 --> 01:20:44,714 If I ever run for president 1850 01:20:44,739 --> 01:20:48,512 and this leaks out, it'll be political suicide. 1851 01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:52,155 Wait a minute, I know. I'll tell people I'm a germaphobe 1852 01:20:52,180 --> 01:20:54,724 who'd never do anything like this. 1853 01:20:54,724 --> 01:20:56,017 Genius! 1854 01:20:56,017 --> 01:20:57,560 Want to give it a try? 1855 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,563 Don't have to ask me twice, girls. 1856 01:21:00,605 --> 01:21:02,356 Take that, Barack. 1857 01:21:02,356 --> 01:21:05,151 And this is for Michelle. 1858 01:21:05,151 --> 01:21:07,570 And once more for Barack. 1859 01:21:07,570 --> 01:21:10,865 Hey, I gotta tell my son Barney about this. 1860 01:21:10,865 --> 01:21:12,102 I mean Barron. 1861 01:21:12,126 --> 01:21:13,890 Now, on you! 1862 01:21:13,914 --> 01:21:15,745 Let it flow, ladies. 1863 01:21:15,745 --> 01:21:17,413 World class, 1864 01:21:17,413 --> 01:21:18,581 believe me. 1865 01:21:18,581 --> 01:21:21,375 Best flow job ever. 1866 01:21:21,375 --> 01:21:25,671 Wow, Melania will never believe this... luckily. 1867 01:21:25,928 --> 01:21:28,768 Next time, girls, how about a brown bath? 1868 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,011 Ohh, I am so going to hell. 1869 01:21:32,011 --> 01:21:36,599 Okay, a little to the left, a little more. 1870 01:21:36,599 --> 01:21:37,683 Who am I kidding? 1871 01:21:37,689 --> 01:21:38,875 A lot more! 1872 01:21:38,941 --> 01:21:41,387 (liquid flowing) (gentle underwater sounds) 1873 01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:43,815 (liquid tension building) (liquid explosion) 1874 01:21:43,856 --> 01:21:46,317 Whoaa! 1875 01:21:46,317 --> 01:21:49,487 I love Russia! 1876 01:21:49,487 --> 01:21:51,906 The previous animation was fake. 1877 01:21:51,906 --> 01:21:53,282 Probably. 1878 01:21:53,282 --> 01:21:56,536 Many people have noted Trump's inability to criticize 1879 01:21:56,536 --> 01:22:00,248 Vladimir Putin and hypothesized as to why. 1880 01:22:00,248 --> 01:22:04,502 Also is a person that kills journalists, political opponents 1881 01:22:04,502 --> 01:22:07,004 and invades countries. 1882 01:22:07,004 --> 01:22:10,591 Obviously, that would be a concern, would it not? 1883 01:22:10,591 --> 01:22:12,924 He's running his country and at least he's a leader. 1884 01:22:12,949 --> 01:22:15,256 You know? Unlike what we have in this country. 1885 01:22:15,268 --> 01:22:17,163 He'd rather have a puppet as president 1886 01:22:17,188 --> 01:22:19,112 of the United States. - No puppet, no puppet. 1887 01:22:19,142 --> 01:22:20,827 - It's pretty clear... - You're the puppet. 1888 01:22:20,852 --> 01:22:22,728 It's pretty clear you won't admit 1889 01:22:22,728 --> 01:22:24,802 that the Russians have engaged in cyber 1890 01:22:24,814 --> 01:22:27,275 attacks against the United States of America. 1891 01:22:27,275 --> 01:22:32,613 That you encouraged espionage against our people, 1892 01:22:32,613 --> 01:22:36,117 that you are willing to spout the Putin line, 1893 01:22:36,117 --> 01:22:38,657 sign up for his wish list, break up 1894 01:22:38,669 --> 01:22:41,080 NATO, do whatever he wants to do, 1895 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,626 and that you continue to get help from him 1896 01:22:45,626 --> 01:22:49,589 because he has a very clear favorite in this race. 1897 01:22:49,589 --> 01:22:51,966 I mean, I've been with Trump and Putin. 1898 01:22:51,966 --> 01:22:54,468 Trump is in awe of Putin. 1899 01:22:54,468 --> 01:22:56,532 He's... when you see Trump with 1900 01:22:56,544 --> 01:22:59,265 Putin, as I have on a few occasions, 1901 01:22:59,265 --> 01:23:03,144 he's like the 12 year old boy 1902 01:23:03,144 --> 01:23:05,215 that goes to high school and meets 1903 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,811 the captain of the football team. 1904 01:23:06,881 --> 01:23:07,881 (laughing) 1905 01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:10,693 My hero. 1906 01:23:10,693 --> 01:23:12,862 I sadly beseech President Trump 1907 01:23:12,862 --> 01:23:16,324 to apologize to the American people for... 1908 01:23:16,324 --> 01:23:19,847 his disgraceful, dangerous, and damaging 1909 01:23:19,859 --> 01:23:22,705 behavior with Putin in Helsinki. 1910 01:23:22,705 --> 01:23:24,540 What was he afraid of? 1911 01:23:24,540 --> 01:23:26,500 President Trump, you first. 1912 01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:29,253 Just now, President Putin denied having anything to do 1913 01:23:29,253 --> 01:23:32,173 with the election interference in 2016. Every U.S. 1914 01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:33,924 intelligence agency has concluded 1915 01:23:33,949 --> 01:23:36,886 that Russia did. What, who... 1916 01:23:36,886 --> 01:23:39,931 my first question for you, sir, is who do you believe? 1917 01:23:39,931 --> 01:23:41,814 My second question is, would you 1918 01:23:41,826 --> 01:23:44,018 now, with the whole world watching, 1919 01:23:44,018 --> 01:23:47,563 tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened in 2016 1920 01:23:47,563 --> 01:23:49,398 and would you warn him to never do it again? 1921 01:23:49,398 --> 01:23:51,275 All I can do is ask the question. 1922 01:23:51,275 --> 01:23:53,402 My people came to me, 1923 01:23:53,402 --> 01:23:55,569 Dan Coats came to me and some others, 1924 01:23:55,581 --> 01:23:57,531 they said they think it's Russia. 1925 01:23:57,531 --> 01:24:00,868 I have President Putin. 1926 01:24:00,868 --> 01:24:02,870 He just said it's not Russia. 1927 01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:03,871 I will say this - 1928 01:24:03,871 --> 01:24:06,207 I don't see any reason why it would be. 1929 01:24:06,207 --> 01:24:08,934 I will tell you that President Putin 1930 01:24:08,946 --> 01:24:11,462 was extremely strong and powerful 1931 01:24:11,462 --> 01:24:12,769 in his denial today. 1932 01:24:12,793 --> 01:24:14,382 When they talked about did Russia collude? 1933 01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:18,315 He said, well, I don't you know, he denied it very strongly. 1934 01:24:19,763 --> 01:24:22,604 Denied it very strongly? What the hell is that? 1935 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,641 I think it's bizarre. 1936 01:24:23,641 --> 01:24:25,893 I think when Trump was in Helsinki 1937 01:24:25,893 --> 01:24:29,981 and met with Putin and, you know, agreed with Putin. 1938 01:24:29,981 --> 01:24:31,414 I think it's just crazy and outrageous 1939 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,777 that this guy's a bloodthirsty dictator. 1940 01:24:34,777 --> 01:24:39,949 This guy Putin, you know, he is a skilled KGB agent. 1941 01:24:39,949 --> 01:24:43,369 He basically is manipulating Trump to do his bidding. 1942 01:24:43,828 --> 01:24:47,081 Putin's influence on Trump is well known. 1943 01:24:47,081 --> 01:24:52,044 You just have to look at the pictures of the 2018 Helsinki 1944 01:24:52,044 --> 01:24:54,797 summit and see how subdued the normally 1945 01:24:54,809 --> 01:24:57,484 boisterous and belligerent Trump was, 1946 01:24:57,509 --> 01:25:01,265 to know who has the reins of power in that situation. 1947 01:25:01,643 --> 01:25:04,187 And Trump learned a lot as a propagandist 1948 01:25:04,223 --> 01:25:08,978 from the Kremlin playbook of propaganda. 1949 01:25:08,978 --> 01:25:11,023 Because the Kremlin model is 1950 01:25:11,035 --> 01:25:13,607 called the firehose of falsehood. 1951 01:25:13,607 --> 01:25:17,361 It is a high volume, constant spewing 1952 01:25:17,361 --> 01:25:22,450 not only of lies, but of doubt, of uncertainty. 1953 01:25:22,450 --> 01:25:27,747 And Trump is very open in his slavish admiration of Putin. 1954 01:25:27,747 --> 01:25:31,584 He'll always defend him, even 1955 01:25:31,584 --> 01:25:35,671 at a cost of criticizing the United States because 1956 01:25:35,671 --> 01:25:37,131 men like 1957 01:25:37,131 --> 01:25:39,491 Putin and Trump don't actually have 1958 01:25:39,503 --> 01:25:41,677 any respect for their own people 1959 01:25:41,677 --> 01:25:43,225 or their own country, which is 1960 01:25:43,237 --> 01:25:45,056 why they steal from their people, 1961 01:25:45,056 --> 01:25:46,724 they lie to their people. 1962 01:25:46,724 --> 01:25:49,518 And in Putin's case, they murder their own people. 1963 01:25:49,518 --> 01:25:52,646 And what they admire is raw power, 1964 01:25:52,646 --> 01:25:55,232 the ability to get away with crimes. 1965 01:25:55,232 --> 01:25:59,820 And so for Trump, Putin has been an enormous success, 1966 01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:02,948 and he would like to have some of that success himself. 1967 01:26:02,948 --> 01:26:05,541 Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, 1968 01:26:05,553 --> 01:26:07,953 testified before Congress in 2018. 1969 01:26:07,953 --> 01:26:11,165 And in doing so, he provided one potential reason 1970 01:26:11,165 --> 01:26:14,627 why Trump refuses to criticize Putin. 1971 01:26:14,627 --> 01:26:17,213 I lied to Congress when Mr. Trump 1972 01:26:17,238 --> 01:26:20,819 stopped negotiating the Moscow Tower project in Russia. 1973 01:26:20,935 --> 01:26:21,975 (tense music) 1974 01:26:22,385 --> 01:26:24,011 I stated that we stopped 1975 01:26:24,011 --> 01:26:28,057 negotiating in January of 2016. 1976 01:26:28,057 --> 01:26:29,975 That was false. 1977 01:26:29,975 --> 01:26:32,395 Our negotiations continued 1978 01:26:32,395 --> 01:26:35,815 for months later during the campaign. 1979 01:26:35,815 --> 01:26:37,866 There were at least a half a dozen times 1980 01:26:37,891 --> 01:26:42,029 between the Iowa caucus in January of 2016 1981 01:26:42,029 --> 01:26:44,281 and the end of June 1982 01:26:44,281 --> 01:26:47,535 when he would ask me, how's it going in Russia? 1983 01:26:47,535 --> 01:26:50,913 Referring to the Moscow Tower project. 1984 01:26:50,913 --> 01:26:55,876 Mr. Trump knew of and directed the Trump Moscow negotiations 1985 01:26:55,876 --> 01:26:59,839 throughout the campaign and lied about it. 1986 01:26:59,839 --> 01:27:04,969 He lied about it because he never expected to win. 1987 01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:09,390 He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds 1988 01:27:09,390 --> 01:27:13,894 of millions of dollars on the Moscow real estate project. 1989 01:27:13,894 --> 01:27:16,790 The fact that Trump was actively 1990 01:27:16,815 --> 01:27:19,823 discussing a deal for a Trump Tower Moscow 1991 01:27:19,859 --> 01:27:21,459 while he was running for president, 1992 01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:23,796 and telling the public 1993 01:27:23,821 --> 01:27:26,052 that he was not pursuing any kind of 1994 01:27:26,064 --> 01:27:28,367 deal with Russia, really demonstrates 1995 01:27:28,367 --> 01:27:32,705 that he was in an already-compromised position. 1996 01:27:32,705 --> 01:27:35,791 That's because he was telling the public one thing, 1997 01:27:35,791 --> 01:27:39,336 and Russia knew that what he was saying was a lie. 1998 01:27:39,336 --> 01:27:41,426 Which meant that they had the power to expose 1999 01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:45,193 him at any time and harm his electoral chances. 2000 01:27:45,384 --> 01:27:48,179 I continue to be fascinated 2001 01:27:48,179 --> 01:27:53,434 by the question around Trump's 2002 01:27:53,434 --> 01:27:55,378 loyalty to Vladimir Putin. 2003 01:27:55,395 --> 01:27:56,276 (brooding music) 2004 01:27:56,298 --> 01:28:00,232 There's many theories out there, whether he simply 2005 01:28:00,232 --> 01:28:04,820 likes the idea of a strong authoritarian leader, 2006 01:28:04,820 --> 01:28:07,323 whether he wishes he were like Putin, whether he wishes 2007 01:28:07,323 --> 01:28:11,160 America was more like Russia or not, 2008 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:16,832 or whether that's mixed with his strong desire to do business 2009 01:28:16,832 --> 01:28:20,628 in Russia - well-established. Or whether or not it's linked 2010 01:28:20,628 --> 01:28:24,757 to numerous reports that Russia may have helped 2011 01:28:24,757 --> 01:28:27,100 pay off his debt, particularly 2012 01:28:27,112 --> 01:28:30,095 loans associated with Deutsche Bank. 2013 01:28:30,095 --> 01:28:35,142 Whether he's trying to curry favor and retain favor 2014 01:28:35,142 --> 01:28:37,053 with a government, a foreign government 2015 01:28:37,065 --> 01:28:39,813 he knows aided his campaign 2016 01:28:39,813 --> 01:28:44,610 or attempted to aid his campaign through Wikileaks' distribution 2017 01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:48,781 - through stealing communications at DNC, 2018 01:28:48,781 --> 01:28:52,826 ultimately going to Wikileaks, ultimately being used publicly. 2019 01:28:53,411 --> 01:28:57,739 All of this is likely the correct answer. 2020 01:28:57,831 --> 01:29:01,272 I think there is a host of factors 2021 01:29:01,284 --> 01:29:04,046 that give us a Donald Trump 2022 01:29:04,046 --> 01:29:06,715 who has wrapped himself around 2023 01:29:06,715 --> 01:29:09,927 Vladimir Putin to the point where he's unable 2024 01:29:09,927 --> 01:29:14,974 to honestly critique him and act in America's interest. 2025 01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:16,934 Trump continues to wink at Putin. 2026 01:29:16,935 --> 01:29:19,151 One of the presidents of a big country 2027 01:29:19,187 --> 01:29:21,038 stood up and said, well, sir, 2028 01:29:21,063 --> 01:29:23,513 if we don't pay and we're attacked 2029 01:29:23,525 --> 01:29:25,776 by Russia, will you protect us? 2030 01:29:25,776 --> 01:29:29,280 I said, you didn't pay? You're delinquent? 2031 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,657 He said yes. Let's say that happened. 2032 01:29:31,657 --> 01:29:33,200 No, I would not protect you. 2033 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,693 In fact, I would encourage them 2034 01:29:34,705 --> 01:29:36,216 to do whatever the hell they want! 2035 01:29:36,246 --> 01:29:38,597 And Putin keeps meddling. 2036 01:29:38,622 --> 01:29:40,696 This morning, the former FBI informant 2037 01:29:40,708 --> 01:29:42,793 accused of making false bribery claims 2038 01:29:42,793 --> 01:29:44,846 about President Biden and his son, Hunter, 2039 01:29:44,858 --> 01:29:46,922 has been released on bond. 2040 01:29:46,922 --> 01:29:48,173 Alexander Smirnoff is 2041 01:29:48,173 --> 01:29:49,819 seen here in the blue hoodie leaving 2042 01:29:49,831 --> 01:29:51,176 court in Las Vegas yesterday. 2043 01:29:51,176 --> 01:29:54,805 Smirnoff is charged with lying to the FBI, claiming the Bidens 2044 01:29:54,805 --> 01:29:56,646 accepted millions in bribes from 2045 01:29:56,658 --> 01:29:58,684 Burisma, a Ukrainian energy firm. 2046 01:29:58,684 --> 01:29:59,685 And the tape? 2047 01:29:59,685 --> 01:30:04,189 Nobody has seen it. So far. Does it exist? Hmm... 2048 01:30:04,565 --> 01:30:05,941 Well, if you find it, let me know. 2049 01:30:05,941 --> 01:30:08,986 Until then, only Putin knows for sure. 2050 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,520 (brooding music) 2051 01:30:20,379 --> 01:30:22,932 I kind of believe in the pee pee tape. 2052 01:30:24,602 --> 01:30:26,478 I don't know if the tape's real or not. 2053 01:30:26,503 --> 01:30:28,839 I kind of hope it is, just 'cause that would be awesome. 2054 01:30:28,839 --> 01:30:31,050 But, till I see it, 2055 01:30:31,050 --> 01:30:32,594 no picture, no proof. 2056 01:30:33,184 --> 01:30:35,108 Is it really that far-fetched? 2057 01:30:35,721 --> 01:30:39,078 Anything is possible when it comes to the orange hobgoblin. 151282

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