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In the criminal justice system
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Because I don't want her to hear us
talking, that's why.
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No, she knows all...
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Look, it doesn't matter
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if it was ten years ago
or yesterday.
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I mean, she sees me
talking to you
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and, you know,
she sees us midcoitus.
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What can I say?
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Oh, my God. I think...
I think I just heard gunshots.
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Lila, stop! Lila!
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Lila!
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Dog walker heard shots coming
from this area and called 9-1-1.
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Uniforms responding
found the door wide open.
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Vics are
Louise and Hugh Murdoch--
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husband and wife,
both Ph.D.s
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both full professors
at Stuyvesant College.
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Brainy household.
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Not smart enough
to lock the door.
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She took three
in the back.
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No exit wounds.
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M.E. will have to
dig out the slugs.
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How about him?
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Two in the skull.
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Same on the slugs.
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You get a read
on the weapons?
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No shell casings.
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Could have been a .38.
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On the other hand,
the lady took
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three in the back,
so if she's running away
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could have been a semi.
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Witness is outside.
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I'll get it.
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Was this phone here?
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We found the
cradle upstairs.
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Okay, we need
the LUDs on this number
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as soon as possible.
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I only saw the guy for a couple of
seconds, you know?
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Only from behind.
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Do the best you can.
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Uh, uh, slight build,
um, curly, dark hair.
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Uh, I-I think he might
have been Hispanic.
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Why, his back look Spanish?
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Uh, no, it's kind
of embarrassing.
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The way Lila took
off after the guy?
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Sh-She only does that
with Latinos.
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Yeah, well, if you think
of anything else...
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You wouldn't think
on a block like this.
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Yeah.
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Was he any help?
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Other than the racist dog.
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My aunt had a spaniel
that didn't like tall men.
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Detectives,
we got something.
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In a trash can
around the corner.
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He takes the time to
clean up the casings
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but throws the gun
in the trash can?
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Well, some bulbs don't burn
as bright as others.
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Fired recently.
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Yeah. Three guesses where.
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Captioning sponsored by
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Forensics ran:
the prints from the gun
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through the system--
nothing.
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And you're sure
this wasn't a robbery?
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If it was, he
was an amateur.
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I mean, the husband
was wearing
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a Franck Muller
Master Banker.
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It's a watch.
It goes for $25,000.
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There's no
hidden safe
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the drawers
were untouched
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and there's expensive artwork
on all the walls.
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And you're
a connoisseur now?
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Hey, if it ain't
"Dogs Playing Poker..."
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Anyway, they were both Stuyvesant college
professors.
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No robbery means
this is personal.
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Neighbors said they were
quite the party givers.
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No, all they said was
there was a lot of people
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coming in and out.
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Hey, to me, two or more people
is a party.
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LUDs you wanted from the Murdochs'
townhouse.
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They received a
three-minute call
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just six minutes before the
dog walker's 9-1-1 call.
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"Telemarketing Solutions"?
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I looked it up.
It's here in the city.
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Well, maybe we'll catch a break
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and the caller
overheard something.
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You guys remember
every donut you eat?
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Joke.
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Funny.
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Hey, man,
your average call here
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lasts about 20 seconds.
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This one, three minutes.
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Don't tell us
you don't remember.
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Here's one I bet you
don't hear too often:
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I do remember.
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Most people start off
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with a couple of negative
comments about my mother.
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Then they slam down the phone.
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But this lady was nice.
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She actually listened.
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Did she buy?
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We didn't get that far.
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She had to go.
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Right, so, let me
ask you a question.
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I get these calls
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that usually
start off with, uh
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"This call is being recorded for quality
assurance."
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A tape? Sure.
Piece of cake.
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What, no donut?
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...but I have good credit.
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That sounds like a doorbell.
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And guess who's
coming to dinner.
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And there's more.
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Consolidating debt's a good
thing.
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What would be
the interest rate?
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Variable or fixed?
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I've got to go.
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That's no help.
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Mm, to the baffled
multitude, maybe.
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Ah, here we go.
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By dissipating
ground hum
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and putting a gain on the lows
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I was able to enhance
the far conversation
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when it didn't overlap
with the near.
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MAN
We want to talk to you
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and Professor Murdoch about her
protest of the Ellen Bar...
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"Ellen Bar..."?
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Maybe Murdoch had
a really big tab
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and the bartender
got fed up.
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No, probably just a fragment.
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But to be thorough,
I looked it up.
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No listings for any bars
of that name in the city.
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But there's more.
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I knew it.
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For some reason,
the far conversation
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got louder towards the end.
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Probably because
she got closer
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as she walked downstairs.
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I only know what I read about
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in the Stuyvesant paper.
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Stuyvesant?
That's where they taught.
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Somebody doesn't have to
hand in that term paper.
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Hugh and Louise weren't just
two of my best faculty members.
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They were dear friends.
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Were they any problems
between them?
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Oh, no. Ah, sure there was
a rough period
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maybe five or six years ago.
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Two workaholics,
it's to be expected
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but, uh, now they
walked around campus
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holding hands.
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What about problems
with students?
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Louise wasn't even teaching
this semester.
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She took a sabbatical
to write a book
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on the Holy Roman Empire.
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And the husband?
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And one of our biggest stars.
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Every year Harvard tries
to poach him.
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He doesn't-doesn't really
teach that much
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anymore so...
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If he wasn't teaching...?
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Uh, research.
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He ran our biochemistry lab.
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Hugh spent
most of his time there.
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You may want to talk to some
of his post-grad researchers.
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Dean Bodner.
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We were on the verge.
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Parkinson's Disease.
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What, he had a cure?
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Methodology to look for one.
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So, in other words
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this was like
whacking Jonas Salk.
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Dr. Salk didn't have
a Phil Giani working for him.
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Meaning...?
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Uh, I'm not saying
he killed Dr. Murdoch
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but if anyone here
wanted him out of the picture
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it was definitely Phil.
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Why? Phil was
pro-Parkinson's?
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He thought Dr. Murdoch
should have given him credit
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for the research
on his last paper.
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And the professor
disagreed.
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It turned ugly.
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Dr. Murdoch fired him.
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Where does this Giani work now?
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That's the thing.
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This is a very small community.
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Word gets out
you had a run-in with someone
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of Dr. Murdoch's
stature...
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And you're
out of the business.
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Who says
you can't go home again?
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Hacking's how I paid my way
through undergrad.
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Tough break.
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Things'll change.
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Why, because Dr. Murdoch ain't
around anymore to bad-mouth you?
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'Cause I'm too good
a researcher.
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Oh, yeah?
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So, uh, what's the best way to get uptown
during rush hour?
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What's pluripotent
hES cell transference
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or blastocystic
trophectoderm removal
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with regards
to stem cell research?
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I guess I missed that
day on Sesame Street.
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All this transference stuff
was your idea?
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What Murdoch stole from me
wasn't ideas...
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it was a methodology.
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Look who I'm talking to.
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You know, since we have
a lot to talk about
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we might as well
be comfortable.
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I'll show you the best
way to get downtown.
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I'd love to smack that
little pompous schmuck.
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Me first.
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I hear that a lot of money comes
into the school
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because of Dr.
Murdoch's research.
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Ooh, subtle.
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You're good.
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I'm about to crack.
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An ordinary guy
would want
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a piece of that
for himself.
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I wouldn't know
about an "ordinary" guy.
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It doesn't bother you
that you do all the work
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and Dr. Murdoch gets the money?
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You don't go into molecular
biochemistry for money.
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Well, what do you
go into it for?
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The glory?
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That's right.
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I want to march up front
in the Macy's parade.
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Intellectual achievement.
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Though I'm sure that means
absolutely nothing to you.
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Blastocystic removal?
The wave of the future, right?
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Very good.
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The primate can regurgitate
what it heard.
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Next, let's move onto sentences.
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Let me ask you something.
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"Primate"?
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It's like a...
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monkey.
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No. I want to
ask your opinion
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on Einstein's theory
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because I'm not sure
he was right.
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"Cop Cracks Relativity."
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No, not that theory, Phil.
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His theory on genius.
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See-- and correct me if
I'm wrong-- Einstein argued
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that genius has
no personality.
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But after talking to you
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for this short amount of time
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I realize that you actually
prove the negative.
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You definitely have personality.
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And it makes this primate
want to whup your ass.
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Now, say something.
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Way to go, Ed.
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Van Buren.
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Thanks.
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Ballistics is ready for you.
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Ballistics?
My kind of scientists.
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M.E. extracted three bullets
from the female
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two from the male.
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125-grain hollow-points.
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So unfortunately...
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I know. They tend
to break into fragments.
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They had to pick
three of these
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from the male's
brain alone.
264
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Reassembling was
like a jigsaw puzzle.
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Did you get
any kind of a match?
266
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Well, striations
indicated a clear
267
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six-point correlation
to the two slugs
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from the male victim.
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You couldn't confirm the other three? For
good reason.
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They're fired from a different
nine-millimeter.
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You're saying
Mrs. Murdoch was killed
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by a different weapon?
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Two guns to fire
only five bullets?
274
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360
Well, either your guy's
ambidextrous or...
275
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Or there were two shooters.
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This bastard's got a friend.
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That guy?
I highly doubt it.
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Wouldn't you say
revenge killings
279
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are typically solo acts?
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Murdoch's lab guy.
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He said that he was
doing stem cell research.
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And they shoot
abortion doctors, don't they?
283
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The phone tapes
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they mentioned something
about Stuyvesant.
285
00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:46,570
Maybe they meant the lab
and not the college.
286
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Let's go see
if Murdoch's lab
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is on anybody's hit list.
288
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A human cell is placed in an egg
289
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who's own nucleus
has been removed.
290
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And we put it in a Petri dish
291
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zap it with
a jolt of electricity
292
00:11:00,450 --> 00:11:02,830
and voilá...
it's all reprogrammed
293
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into a clump of between
one and 200 new cells.
294
00:11:06,890 --> 00:11:08,910
And then we harvest
the stem cells for our studies.
295
00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:11,070
And with that you can
cure Parkinson's?
296
00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:12,171
Parkinson's
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diabetes, Alzheimer's,
who knows what else?
298
00:11:16,130 --> 00:11:16,970
But somewhere along the line
299
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what we do
became a political hotbed.
300
00:11:19,010 --> 00:11:20,330
We did receive
some nasty letters
301
00:11:20,650 --> 00:11:22,150
but the FBI
checked them out.
302
00:11:22,570 --> 00:11:23,990
Maybe we ought
to check them out, too.
303
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"We strongly caution you
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"against this type
of research, Dr. Murdoch.
305
00:11:33,290 --> 00:11:35,450
"It is wrong
in the eyes of God.
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You will be judged."
307
00:11:37,930 --> 00:11:38,790
Looks like judgment day
308
00:11:38,890 --> 00:11:40,959
came a little bit early
for Professor Murdoch.
309
00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:42,220
I'm sorry to hear that.
310
00:11:42,540 --> 00:11:44,820
Murder isn't just
a sin, Mr. Scott
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it's also a felony.
312
00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:48,140
Look at the name on the wall,
Detective.
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"Protect Life."
314
00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,620
We would never kill
to prove a point.
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00:11:51,820 --> 00:11:52,980
Words are our only weapon.
316
00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:54,340
Maybe somebody
in your organization
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thought they
weren't enough.
318
00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:56,460
Perhaps.
319
00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:57,960
If Professor Murdoch's research
320
00:11:58,180 --> 00:11:59,120
violated our principles.
321
00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,400
Which it clearly did
322
00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:01,740
otherwise you wouldn't
have sent that letter.
323
00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:04,020
What we object to
is the creation of life
324
00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:05,940
for the soul purpose
of destroying it.
325
00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:10,177
Anyway,
this letter was sent before.
326
00:12:10,180 --> 00:12:11,020
Before what?
327
00:12:11,020 --> 00:12:12,660
Before we confirmed
Dr. Murdoch
328
00:12:12,660 --> 00:12:14,420
was using existing cell lines.
329
00:12:15,180 --> 00:12:17,540
We had no problem with Murdoch
or his research.
330
00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:19,740
The only problem
331
00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:20,700
with this guy's story
332
00:12:20,860 --> 00:12:22,480
is that that kid
from Murdoch's lab
333
00:12:22,620 --> 00:12:24,400
said that they were
creating life in that dish.
334
00:12:24,580 --> 00:12:26,540
He didn't say life,
he said new cells.
335
00:12:26,980 --> 00:12:29,260
From what I hear, you kill
more cells drinking a beer.
336
00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:31,840
You can't tell me that
when that cell hits the egg
337
00:12:31,980 --> 00:12:33,240
that isn't
the start of life.
338
00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:35,568
Okay, zygotes
are people, too.
339
00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:37,700
Well, they turn into
people, don't they?
340
00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:39,502
Look, the bottom line is
Murdoch was either
341
00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:41,390
lying to the public
about his research
342
00:12:41,550 --> 00:12:43,190
or those Protect Lifers
are lying to us.
343
00:12:43,310 --> 00:12:45,010
They're just squeaky wheels,
not killers.
344
00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:46,945
So if they did
do it, odds are
345
00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:49,130
they made a couple of
mistakes along they way.
346
00:12:49,950 --> 00:12:51,630
All right, back to letter "A."
347
00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:54,910
Okay, so, the doorbell rings
348
00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:56,912
Mrs. Murdoch
goes to answer it. Why?
349
00:12:57,630 --> 00:12:59,150
Maybe she didn't know
hubby was there.
350
00:12:59,350 --> 00:13:01,230
Or maybe she was the
one expecting guests.
351
00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:02,457
Now what happens next?
352
00:13:03,070 --> 00:13:04,650
All right, hubby goes
to answer the door...
353
00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:05,670
She's in the library...
354
00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:07,510
The shooter
walks him all the way
355
00:13:07,710 --> 00:13:09,150
to his desk in the den.
356
00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:11,930
Now if your main goal
was to kill him
357
00:13:12,590 --> 00:13:14,659
wouldn't you kill him
right away?
358
00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:16,730
Not if I wanted
to kill the wife.
359
00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:21,070
I been a department secretary
360
00:13:21,070 --> 00:13:22,250
for the last five years.
361
00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:24,890
Nobody ever
had a cross word for Louise.
362
00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:27,192
Louise? You called her Louise?
363
00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:29,390
She'd yell at anyone that
called her "professor."
364
00:13:30,070 --> 00:13:31,870
"Doctor"? Forget about it.
365
00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:33,910
A woman of
the people, huh?
366
00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:34,990
And here are 12 of them.
367
00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:37,250
This looks like, uh,
a guest list
368
00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:39,540
for some kind of party
the day after she was murdered.
369
00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,600
A tea.
370
00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,960
That's what
she called them.
371
00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,396
Although, tea
was the last thing she served.
372
00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,560
From what I hear.
373
00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,420
I used to call it tea, too.
374
00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,560
They were discussion groups,
actually.
375
00:13:50,721 --> 00:13:51,561
With other
professors?
376
00:13:51,561 --> 00:13:53,796
Professors, students
377
00:13:53,896 --> 00:13:55,264
civilians.
378
00:13:55,364 --> 00:13:56,632
Well what'd
they talk about?
379
00:13:56,732 --> 00:13:57,867
Whatever.
380
00:13:59,135 --> 00:14:00,440
I'm sorry.
381
00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,660
These are detectives,
Jennifer.
382
00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,920
Jennifer...
383
00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,788
Uh, you wouldn't be
Jennifer Taylor?
384
00:14:03,888 --> 00:14:04,848
Yes.
385
00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,340
I was just
returning these books.
386
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,440
I was doing
some research.
387
00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,035
This was
for her book?
388
00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,560
I was checking footnotes
and sources mostly.
389
00:14:13,660 --> 00:14:16,029
I'm sorry.
390
00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:21,320
Jennifer, your name's on
the guest list for Dr. Murdoch's
391
00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,480
next discussion
group...
392
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,740
I went to a lot of them.
393
00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,862
Was there a specific topic
planned for that night?
394
00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:26,960
We were going
to discuss
395
00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,320
gender apartheid;
that was her thing lately--
396
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,000
the abusive treatment of women
397
00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,640
in certain
Middle Eastern countries.
398
00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,520
She'd been throwing
399
00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,220
charity cocktail parties
for years to raise funds
400
00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,280
and awareness.
401
00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:40,380
I bet that thrilled
the local Muslim men.
402
00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:43,283
Well, she was always
receiving literature
403
00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:45,870
pamphlets, really,
quoting the Koran.
404
00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:47,160
I can show you.
405
00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,880
There's a shelter for abused
women around the corner
406
00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:54,640
and this lady's worried
about suffrage
407
00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:56,234
in some third world
country?
408
00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,420
Well it ain't
just voting rights.
409
00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,460
Listen to this.
410
00:14:58,460 --> 00:15:00,840
"Men are commanded to whip
their disobedient wives.
411
00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,060
Women are deficient in
intelligence compared to men."
412
00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,000
What's that from?
413
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,500
"The Center for
414
00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:07,068
the Advancement
of Wife Beaters"?
415
00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:09,329
No, it's... wait.
416
00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:13,970
"El Anbar Books."
417
00:15:14,070 --> 00:15:15,638
As in "Ellen Bar."
418
00:15:15,940 --> 00:15:16,780
I don't have anything
419
00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:18,140
to do with that trash.
420
00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:20,789
Your store was on the return address
label, Mr. Mogazi.
421
00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:22,520
It was not me.
Talk to the kid.
422
00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:23,580
What kid?
423
00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,715
Ah, Mousah Salim.
424
00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:26,380
I hired him to stack books
425
00:15:27,140 --> 00:15:29,940
then he started mailing
that nonsense from my store.
426
00:15:30,140 --> 00:15:31,900
Well, if you didn't like
it, why did you let him?
427
00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:33,200
I didn't even
know about it
428
00:15:33,260 --> 00:15:34,950
until this crazy woman
comes here
429
00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:36,890
with all her friends
and her picket sign.
430
00:15:37,150 --> 00:15:38,618
Was this woman
a college professor?
431
00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:40,885
Yes, yes, and all
her crazy friends.
432
00:15:40,990 --> 00:15:42,210
Look not good for business.
433
00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:45,130
So I fired the kid
and now she leaves me alone.
434
00:15:45,790 --> 00:15:48,192
This Mousah Salim,
does he have an address?
435
00:15:48,292 --> 00:15:49,260
Ah...
436
00:15:57,510 --> 00:15:58,990
I'm sorry, there
must be some mix-up.
437
00:15:59,070 --> 00:16:00,490
We're looking
for Mousah Salim.
438
00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:02,150
No mix-up.
439
00:16:02,390 --> 00:16:04,458
I'm his mother, Francine Landen.
440
00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:07,098
Uh, can we
talk to him?
441
00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:08,790
Well, that would be difficult.
442
00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:09,630
He's in Pakistan.
443
00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:13,185
Uh, can we
talk to you?
444
00:16:13,285 --> 00:16:14,754
Sure.
445
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:18,830
Do you have kids?
446
00:16:18,830 --> 00:16:20,298
Yeah, in Florida.
447
00:16:20,630 --> 00:16:22,550
Hopefully smoking dope
like normal teenagers.
448
00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:25,130
My little angel
puts a towel on his head
449
00:16:25,190 --> 00:16:26,930
and starts quoting
the Koran at breakfast.
450
00:16:27,390 --> 00:16:29,450
When I was 22,
I read the Razor's Edge
451
00:16:29,550 --> 00:16:31,010
and I didn't eat steak
for two months.
452
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:33,558
Yeah, well,
you got over it.
453
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,780
Some things with my Greg
never change.
454
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,356
You know what we spent
on private school?
455
00:16:39,456 --> 00:16:40,520
Straight C's.
456
00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,500
Couldn't have gotten into a decent college
if he wanted to
457
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,440
which he didn't.
458
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,140
He's been nothing
but a disappointment.
459
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,200
Something wrong?
460
00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:47,260
The police.
461
00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,600
Looking for Greg.
462
00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,120
You're in the
wrong hemisphere.
463
00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,080
I told them.
464
00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,880
What, the Pakistanis
465
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,114
don't want him
around, either?
466
00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,456
Actually, we thought that he
might've witnessed a murder.
467
00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,600
Greg, do something useful?
468
00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,040
You've definitely got
the wrong kid.
469
00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,680
Well, all in all
470
00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,300
I'd say that's
a pretty good alibi.
471
00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,640
Yeah, unless he got
sick of falafel
472
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,340
and decided to come home
ahead of schedule.
473
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,582
What, and forgot
to tell his parents?
474
00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,640
If she was my mom,
I'd forget, too.
475
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,940
I got Customs
looking into it.
476
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,040
So, you're thinking
we've got another
477
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,608
John Walker Lindh
on our hands?
478
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,542
Yeah, only this one actually
may have pulled the trigger.
479
00:17:22,642 --> 00:17:24,177
Hey, somehow, some way
480
00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:25,960
this kid is connected
to the killers.
481
00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,863
Well, maybe someone helped him
with his conversion.
482
00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:34,510
Greg is highly intelligent
483
00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:36,150
but had trouble fitting in.
484
00:17:36,730 --> 00:17:37,910
I'm sure you know the type.
485
00:17:38,250 --> 00:17:39,885
Yeah, I read about them
in the Columbine News.
486
00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:42,970
No, no,
he wasn't like that.
487
00:17:42,970 --> 00:17:44,530
Sure, he got picked on
every now and then
488
00:17:44,530 --> 00:17:47,150
but he certainly
wasn't one for retaliation.
489
00:17:47,730 --> 00:17:49,065
He just sat back
and took it?
490
00:17:49,330 --> 00:17:50,970
Well, he did act out once.
491
00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:53,050
He and another boy were
caught on campus one night
492
00:17:53,170 --> 00:17:54,990
setting fire
to a garbage can.
493
00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:56,485
Who was this other kid?
494
00:17:56,890 --> 00:17:58,570
I can dig out
the disciplinary report
495
00:17:58,930 --> 00:18:01,670
but I do remember he wasn't
a student at Strickland.
496
00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:05,210
Michael's not here.
497
00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:06,170
I'm his sister.
498
00:18:06,490 --> 00:18:07,558
Where are your parents?
499
00:18:07,650 --> 00:18:08,490
Who do you want
to talk to?
500
00:18:08,570 --> 00:18:10,772
My dead mother
or my convict father?
501
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:12,325
Is this your brother?
502
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,260
Yep.
503
00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:15,970
The dog was right.
504
00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:18,552
Look, whatever's
going on with Michael
505
00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:20,830
I'm the parents now,
you can talk to me.
506
00:18:23,532 --> 00:18:24,492
Hey.
507
00:18:24,592 --> 00:18:25,860
Hey!
508
00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:34,135
Here you go.
509
00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:36,120
You know, if you were on
your way down to the precinct
510
00:18:36,460 --> 00:18:37,380
we can give you a ride.
511
00:18:40,580 --> 00:18:42,515
You know what this is, Michael?
512
00:18:42,740 --> 00:18:44,060
It's a ballistics report
513
00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:47,120
and it says that the gun
that we found outside
514
00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:48,500
the Murdochs' townhouse
515
00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:50,840
is the gun that killed
Hugh Murdoch.
516
00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:53,700
Now, this one, this is
from our forensics lab.
517
00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:55,068
Now, if your fingerprints
are found on that gun...
518
00:18:55,820 --> 00:18:58,640
...it means that this isn't going to one
of your better days, kid.
519
00:18:58,900 --> 00:18:59,840
I don't know
what you mean.
520
00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:02,200
Two people are dead, Michael.
521
00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:03,869
You killed one of them.
522
00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:07,323
Now, we're guessing that your
friend killed the other one.
523
00:19:07,423 --> 00:19:08,891
Which one?
524
00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:12,640
That's what we want you
to tell us.
525
00:19:12,741 --> 00:19:14,709
Time's up.
526
00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:16,920
Gina Sparrow, Esquire.
527
00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:19,180
I've been retained
by Mr. Sanchez's sister.
528
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:20,940
You should know better.
529
00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:23,740
Questioning this kind of suspect
without his lawyer present.
530
00:19:24,060 --> 00:19:25,320
We didn't know he had one.
531
00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:29,217
And exactly what kind
of suspect is he?
532
00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:33,890
You want us to leave.
533
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:35,350
That would be nice.
534
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:49,385
So, is this guy
as dumb as he seems?
535
00:19:49,910 --> 00:19:52,030
There's no way this kid
is the brains behind all this.
536
00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:53,550
Did you reach the D.A.?
537
00:19:53,550 --> 00:19:55,219
Well, she's willing to play.
538
00:19:57,910 --> 00:19:58,750
Here we go.
539
00:20:01,710 --> 00:20:04,350
Now, speaking hypothetically,
what if Michael
540
00:20:04,350 --> 00:20:05,470
had a partner?
541
00:20:05,470 --> 00:20:06,310
We'd be shocked.
542
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:08,191
Would the D.A. work with us?
543
00:20:09,030 --> 00:20:09,970
If Michael gives us
544
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:12,070
a name, they'll give
two counts of Man Two.
545
00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:13,830
Running concurrently?
546
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:15,110
If he gives us a location.
547
00:20:20,990 --> 00:20:23,993
Michael's partner was
a boy named Landen.
548
00:20:24,093 --> 00:20:25,030
Greg Landen.
549
00:20:25,030 --> 00:20:26,790
He was the one
who shot Mrs. Murdoch.
550
00:20:27,570 --> 00:20:29,510
I guess he really did
get sick of falafels.
551
00:21:15,490 --> 00:21:17,110
Docket Number 26775.
552
00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:18,378
People v. Greg Alan Landen.
553
00:21:20,850 --> 00:21:22,650
My name is Mousah Salim.
554
00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:24,230
Derek Greer for the defense,
Your Honor.
555
00:21:24,330 --> 00:21:25,420
Waive reading.
556
00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:27,020
Plead not guilty.
No, I plead
557
00:21:27,220 --> 00:21:29,400
nothing-- I'm not
asking you for anything.
558
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:30,840
You have no authority
over me.
559
00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:31,860
Tell that to the gentleman
560
00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:33,120
with the service revolver.
561
00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:35,340
Question of bail?
Remand, Your Honor.
562
00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:36,880
This defendant is a flight risk.
563
00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:37,980
He murdered two people
564
00:21:38,060 --> 00:21:39,020
shortly after
returning
565
00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:40,340
from four months
in Pakistan.
566
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,641
You lying Qabeha!
567
00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:45,620
Looks like he wasn't there to
sightsee.
568
00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:46,740
Well, listen to you.
569
00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:49,180
You don't even try
to hide your disdain
570
00:21:49,180 --> 00:21:50,020
for Islam.
571
00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:52,000
My disdain isn't for Islam, pal.
572
00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:54,820
Defendant is remanded
to the Department of Corrections
573
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,940
Allah Akbar.
without bail.
574
00:21:56,940 --> 00:21:57,780
Allah Akbar.
575
00:21:57,780 --> 00:21:58,820
I am a slave to Allah.
576
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,156
Allah Akbar.
577
00:22:01,256 --> 00:22:02,216
Allah Akbar.
578
00:22:02,316 --> 00:22:04,460
I am a slave to Allah.
579
00:22:04,460 --> 00:22:05,520
I just got called a name
580
00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:06,720
I don't even know
what it means.
581
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:09,221
Oh, you're going
to love this guy.
582
00:22:09,321 --> 00:22:10,756
That bad?
583
00:22:11,380 --> 00:22:13,540
Greg Landen could make
our new D.A. pack his bags
584
00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:14,800
and head back to Georgia.
585
00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:16,740
I don't think
Lilian would let him.
586
00:22:16,841 --> 00:22:18,342
Lilian?
587
00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:19,968
Mrs. Arthur Branch.
588
00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:21,940
She loves the smell
of concrete.
589
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,000
Always has
590
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,030
always will.
591
00:22:25,030 --> 00:22:26,430
I didn't know
you were friendly with him.
592
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:28,990
Bar Association dinners.
593
00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:30,191
Nice fellow.
594
00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:33,012
And his politics?
595
00:22:33,112 --> 00:22:35,147
Nice fellow.
596
00:22:36,308 --> 00:22:37,742
Hello.
597
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:40,690
Sure. Tell him
I'll be there
598
00:22:40,790 --> 00:22:41,630
in an hour.
599
00:22:44,350 --> 00:22:45,885
Well, I'm going to meet
your Mr. Landen.
600
00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:47,790
Care to come along?
601
00:22:47,790 --> 00:22:48,970
I've already had the pleasure.
602
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:52,270
For reasons
that should be obvious
603
00:22:52,670 --> 00:22:54,010
I'd like to make this one
go away.
604
00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:55,110
And for those
same reasons
605
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:57,030
the best I can do is
two counts of Man One
606
00:22:57,150 --> 00:22:58,310
sentences to run
consecutively.
607
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:59,550
That's hardly a bargain.
608
00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:01,670
This infidel doesn't speak
for me.
609
00:23:01,770 --> 00:23:02,738
Quiet, Greg.
610
00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:04,550
This prosecution is part
611
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:06,130
of America's crusade
against Islam.
612
00:23:06,750 --> 00:23:08,310
I want a lawyer
who sees that.
613
00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:10,070
I want a Muslim lawyer.
614
00:23:15,070 --> 00:23:16,290
It's dilatory, Arthur.
615
00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:18,030
If every time
his lawyer does something
616
00:23:18,190 --> 00:23:20,010
he doesn't like,
he fires him
617
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,020
we might not get to trial
for a decade.
618
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,340
And he'll be off the street all that time.
619
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,080
The Sixth Amendment guarantees his right
to counsel.
620
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,560
Let him choose
whoever he wants.
621
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,360
I think there's another issue
we should consider.
622
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,040
What if Landen was indigent
623
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,920
and Greer was
court-appointed counsel?
624
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,089
Could Landen then reject him
on the basis of religion?
625
00:23:36,189 --> 00:23:37,149
Uh-oh.
626
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,980
I feel the old "bad
precedent" speech
627
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,181
coming on.
628
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,640
Well, that would mean
629
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,620
that a skinhead could
reject a Jewish attorney.
630
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,620
A rapist could
reject a woman.
631
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,380
The Constitution
requires only
632
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,500
that counsel
be competent.
633
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,980
It doesn't say that
he and his client
634
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,160
have to be
best friends.
635
00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:53,200
Thank you.
636
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,320
Martha Stewart is the Queen
637
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,620
of Domestic Tranquility.
638
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080
Right now, I'm not sure
I'd want her near my kitchen.
639
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,680
No offense,
but that analogy isn't
640
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,640
even in the right ballpark.
641
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,620
Why not? There's a lot more
to competence
642
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,520
than a law degree
and modicum of courtroom skill.
643
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,080
A defendant and
his attorney
644
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,200
need to be able
to communicate.
645
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,780
There should be at least
a touch of trust between them.
646
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,980
You better watch out, Arthur
647
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,400
or they'll take back
your invitation
648
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560
to the strict
constructionist's ball.
649
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,740
You see, that's where
you don't understand me, Jack.
650
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,730
It's my job to put that son
of gun behind bars.
651
00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:23,950
The last thing
I want to do for him is
652
00:24:24,050 --> 00:24:26,230
gift-wrap grounds
for reversible error.
653
00:24:28,410 --> 00:24:29,478
Mr. Branch's office.
654
00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:33,873
Jack, it's for you.
655
00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:36,001
McCoy.
656
00:24:36,101 --> 00:24:38,537
Yes.
657
00:24:38,637 --> 00:24:40,672
Sure.
658
00:24:40,772 --> 00:24:41,970
That was Anwar Mohammed.
659
00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:44,050
He's just been retained
by Greg Landen.
660
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:45,250
He wants to meet me for coffee.
661
00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:46,730
Oh, to be young
and to have parents
662
00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:50,473
with a bulging bankbook.
663
00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:53,045
We already tried
to cut a deal with Mr. Landen.
664
00:24:53,146 --> 00:24:54,147
I know.
665
00:24:54,370 --> 00:24:55,210
Couldn't we work
out something
666
00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:56,370
with no prison time?
667
00:24:56,370 --> 00:24:57,571
A mental facility,
perhaps?
668
00:24:57,671 --> 00:24:58,672
I'm sorry.
669
00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:01,450
You've known me
a long time, Anwar.
670
00:25:01,450 --> 00:25:04,330
You know the political climate
played no part
671
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:05,330
in my decision.
672
00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:05,970
Maybe it should.
673
00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:07,310
The boy's one step
from a terrorist.
674
00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:12,870
I'm sure things
haven't been easy
675
00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:14,010
for you this past year.
676
00:25:15,290 --> 00:25:16,370
It's been a terrible year
677
00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:18,270
but when people need you
678
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:19,810
somehow your
ethnicity disappears.
679
00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:22,298
And those
who don't need you?
680
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:23,470
I don't need them.
681
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:26,270
Well, Jack, if
it's any consolation
682
00:25:26,270 --> 00:25:27,770
I'll do my best to
keep Greg's rhetoric
683
00:25:27,950 --> 00:25:28,950
to a minimum
in the courtroom.
684
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:29,597
Have you met him yet?
685
00:25:29,597 --> 00:25:31,790
Yeah.
686
00:25:31,790 --> 00:25:33,570
And that's why he's getting
nowhere near the stand.
687
00:25:34,830 --> 00:25:36,690
Believe me, I don't want his religious
beliefs in the courtroom
688
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:37,710
any more than you do.
689
00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:39,111
I'm representing
690
00:25:39,790 --> 00:25:41,370
Greg Landen
because he needs my help.
691
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:44,270
But please don't ever confuse
his politics with my faith.
692
00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:52,125
And why did you go with Mr. Landen
693
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:53,670
to the Murdochs' home?
694
00:25:53,670 --> 00:25:55,610
Greg told me the Murdochs had
more money
695
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:56,590
than they needed.
696
00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:58,950
He said if we took some,
we could go away.
697
00:25:59,470 --> 00:26:01,172
Where would you go,
Mr. Sanchez?
698
00:26:02,333 --> 00:26:03,270
The mountains.
699
00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:05,210
Greg said we could do some fishing and
some hunting.
700
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:06,890
It sounded like fun.
701
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:10,730
What happened
when you got inside
702
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:12,452
the Murdochs' townhouse,
Mr. Sanchez?
703
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:15,190
The man took us into this room
704
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:17,500
and then Greg told me
to shoot him.
705
00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:19,620
And you did?
706
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:20,320
Yeah.
707
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,260
There was a
lot of blood.
708
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,080
What happened next, Mr. Sanchez?
709
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,100
A woman came in,
and she started screaming.
710
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,760
And she tried to run away,
but Greg shot her.
711
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,940
Then I got scared,
so I ran.
712
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,360
You didn't steal anything?
713
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:39,200
No.
714
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,040
I guess we forgot.
715
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000
Only one murder weapon
was found.
716
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,736
Do you know whose fingerprints
were on it?
717
00:26:50,836 --> 00:26:52,320
Yours.
718
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040
Only one person was seen running
from the Murdochs' house.
719
00:26:55,140 --> 00:26:56,374
Do you know who it was?
720
00:26:56,474 --> 00:26:57,434
You.
721
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,160
Greg was there, too.
722
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,440
But nobody saw him.
723
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,000
How do you explain that?
724
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,240
I don't know,
but he was there.
725
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,900
He shot the lady,
and then ran the other way.
726
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,120
It was all his idea.
727
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:11,200
I guess it's a good thing
728
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,620
you made a deal
with the District Attorney
729
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,780
or we wouldn't even have
your word for it.
730
00:27:21,970 --> 00:27:22,810
This isn't
what I told you to do.
731
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:24,290
You tell them
732
00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:25,130
about the U.S.
aggression.
733
00:27:25,450 --> 00:27:26,330
Not now, Greg.
734
00:27:27,290 --> 00:27:29,390
You tell them about
the U.S. government's
735
00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:30,610
crusade against Islam.
736
00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:32,890
Sit down. They're trying to wipe us out.
737
00:27:32,890 --> 00:27:33,730
Your Honor...
738
00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:35,370
3,000 killed on
September 11.
739
00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:36,210
Quiet down, Mr. Landen.
740
00:27:36,290 --> 00:27:37,850
And 20,000 killed
in Afghanistan.
741
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:40,290
Your taxes pay for the bombs
742
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:41,570
that kill Afghani children.
743
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:43,145
You're out of order, Mr. Landen.
744
00:27:43,245 --> 00:27:44,610
You're the terrorists.
745
00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:45,450
They want me
to shut up.
746
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:46,130
That's why
they're trying
747
00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:47,010
to put me in prison.
748
00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:48,645
Only they can't send me
to Cuba like the others.
749
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:51,150
They can't treat an American
like a caged animal.
750
00:27:51,370 --> 00:27:52,730
Remove the defendant
from the courtroom.
751
00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:54,430
I'll see counsel
in chambers.
752
00:27:54,530 --> 00:27:55,490
Oh, so you can talk
behind my back?
753
00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:57,310
This trial is a sham!
754
00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:01,810
Give him a Valium.
755
00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:03,064
What do I care?
756
00:28:03,130 --> 00:28:04,750
I'm afraid it won't be
that simple, Your Honor.
757
00:28:05,290 --> 00:28:07,270
It appears the only way
to maintain any semblance
758
00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:08,950
of decorum is
to remove the defendant
759
00:28:09,170 --> 00:28:10,010
from the courtroom.
760
00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:12,530
Is that an on-the-
record motion, Mr. McCoy?
761
00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:13,598
Yes, Your Honor, it is.
762
00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:15,782
Well, the last time
I read the Constitution
763
00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:18,040
all criminal defendants
have an absolute right
764
00:28:18,140 --> 00:28:19,140
to confront their accusers.
765
00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:21,320
Not only the well-behaved ones.
766
00:28:21,580 --> 00:28:23,220
The state will provide
a television hookup
767
00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:25,060
so he won't miss a word
of the proceedings.
768
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:26,220
I'm sure you'd like
769
00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:27,860
to add your two cents,
Mr. Mohammed.
770
00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:28,700
Actually, Your Honor,
I'm not going
771
00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:31,060
to oppose Mr. McCoy's motion.
772
00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:33,196
What happened to representing
your client zealously?
773
00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:35,860
I feel it would best
serve his defense
774
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:37,760
if he weren't permitted
to disrupt the proceedings.
775
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:44,000
Please bring the defendant
into my chambers.
776
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,500
We should least get his opinion
on the matter.
777
00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:48,900
You know, there is a way
778
00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:49,920
to put an end to all this.
779
00:28:50,060 --> 00:28:51,800
My client won't accept a deal,
Your Honor.
780
00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:56,620
Let me explain what's going on, Mr.
Landen.
781
00:28:56,620 --> 00:28:58,420
Mr. McCoy would like me
to keep you
782
00:28:58,420 --> 00:28:59,280
out of the courtroom.
783
00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:00,820
To be equitable
784
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,780
I'd be willing
to give you another chance.
785
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,868
Do you think
you can contain yourself?
786
00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:06,228
Yeah, if he
would do his job.
787
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:08,720
From where I'm sitting
on the bench
788
00:29:08,860 --> 00:29:10,095
Mr. Mohammed is doing
an excellent job.
789
00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:13,870
No. His job is to do
what I tell him to do.
790
00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:15,170
I want him to
use my real name
791
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:17,670
and I'd have him tell the jury
about how
792
00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:19,930
the American government's
framing me because I'm Muslim.
793
00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:20,990
There's no attorney
794
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:22,330
in the country
that would argue that.
795
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:23,390
You know what? Fine.
796
00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:26,426
Fine.
797
00:29:27,150 --> 00:29:28,130
Then I'll represent myself.
798
00:29:34,030 --> 00:29:35,770
That kid is
an idiot savant.
799
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:36,950
Or just an idiot.
800
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:38,210
Don't fool yourself.
801
00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:40,930
He just out-lawyered
our office's own counsel
802
00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:42,150
and the judicial branch.
803
00:29:42,390 --> 00:29:44,070
For us to win a motion
denying his request
804
00:29:44,270 --> 00:29:46,910
for self-representation,
the court would have to find him
805
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:48,430
unfit to represent himself.
806
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:51,510
Well, he is 19
and without any legal training.
807
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:52,350
To quote the Bard:
808
00:29:52,350 --> 00:29:54,750
Ignorance often turns out
to be the best defense.
809
00:29:55,150 --> 00:29:57,070
If he's found unfit
to represent himself
810
00:29:57,390 --> 00:29:59,370
he could also be found
legally incompetent
811
00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:00,790
to stand trial at all.
812
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:03,852
The proverbial corner,
Ms. Southerlyn.
813
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:05,910
That's what our friend
has painted us into.
814
00:30:06,030 --> 00:30:06,870
So what you're saying is
815
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:08,230
we're not going to oppose
his motion?
816
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:09,070
Look at the bright side--
817
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:11,640
the judge ordered Mohammed
to stay on as stand-by counsel.
818
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,940
Which could be a good thing
or a bad thing.
819
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,620
Just to be safe,
let's have one of our shrinks
820
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,640
in the courtroom.
821
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Welcome to the corner, Serena.
822
00:30:24,194 --> 00:30:26,196
MAN
We want to talk to you
823
00:30:26,296 --> 00:30:28,699
and Professor Murdoch
about her protest
824
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,067
of the El Anbar bookstore.
825
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,290
I only know what I read about it in
the Stuyvesant paper.
826
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,968
I ran this through a Kaylemetrics
827
00:30:37,068 --> 00:30:38,028
5500 spectrograph.
828
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,780
By comparing pitch
829
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,960
trajectory of vowel formants
and nasal resonance
830
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,500
I was able to locate
two distinct voices.
831
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,560
And were you able to identify those
voices?
832
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Well, the second voice,
I can't identify.
833
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,280
I can only assume it belongs
to Hugh Murdoch.
834
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,680
And the other voice?
835
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,681
Uh, it's the defendant's.
836
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,020
Are you sure?
Yes.
837
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,280
Uh, it was a perfect match,
with voice samples
838
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,200
taken from the defendant,
post arrest.
839
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:01,240
What does that indicate?
840
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,975
Well, that Mr. Landen was
in the Murdoch's house
841
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,480
within minutes of the shootings.
842
00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:06,381
Thank you.
843
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,740
This machine that you said
you used--
844
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:11,780
it's owned by
the U.S. government, right?
845
00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:13,448
Uh, City of New York, actually.
846
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,575
And if you wanted to,
you could fake a recording?
847
00:31:15,676 --> 00:31:16,843
Uh...
848
00:31:18,779 --> 00:31:20,781
Well, I suppose I could
849
00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:22,688
but, uh...
Are you Jewish?
850
00:31:22,788 --> 00:31:24,457
Objection.
851
00:31:24,557 --> 00:31:25,517
Overruled.
852
00:31:25,617 --> 00:31:26,618
Your Honor...
853
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:29,336
Arguably,
it goes to bias.
854
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:32,160
As a Jew, isn't it
your mission in life
855
00:31:32,260 --> 00:31:34,060
Objection! to destroy the lives Muslims?
856
00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:34,900
You hate Muslims, don't you?
857
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:37,322
Sidebar, Your Honor.
858
00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:42,300
Your Honor, these questions are bigoted
and have no relevance.
859
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:43,880
I'm inclined to agree,
Your Honor.
860
00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:46,540
However, Mr. Landen does have
a right to his opinion.
861
00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:47,680
He's got a point,
Mr. McCoy.
862
00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:50,440
Pro se defendants are permitted
extra latitude.
863
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,260
I show you People's Five, and ask
if you recognize it.
864
00:32:02,860 --> 00:32:04,160
I understand
this is difficult
865
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,015
but you are under oath,
Mr. Landen.
866
00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:07,707
Yes, it's my gun.
867
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:10,912
And is it the only gun
that you own?
868
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,310
No, I have another
nine-millimeter
869
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:14,150
a SIG Sauer.
870
00:32:16,750 --> 00:32:18,670
Where is that gun now?
871
00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:19,730
I don't know. It's...
872
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:20,998
missing.
873
00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:26,473
Who do you think
took it?
874
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:31,550
Seek to treat
the witness as hostile.
875
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:32,651
Go ahead.
876
00:32:33,670 --> 00:32:35,839
You think your son took
your guns, don't you?
877
00:32:37,030 --> 00:32:37,870
I couldn't say.
878
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:40,230
Well, how about this?
879
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:43,867
Where do you keep the weapons
in question?
880
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:45,710
In my study,
in the bottom drawer.
881
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:48,032
Which is locked?
882
00:32:48,132 --> 00:32:51,268
Mr. Landen?
883
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:55,610
No. It wasn't locked.
884
00:33:03,670 --> 00:33:05,739
Did you ever cheat on your wife?
885
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:07,000
Objection. Relevance.
886
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,302
How can the jury believe
a word he says?
887
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,360
He's an adulterer.
888
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,960
Marital infidelity doesn't bear
889
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,981
on witness credibility,
Mr. Landen.
890
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Ask a different question.
891
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Why didn't you have
any more children?
892
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,120
Your Honor...
893
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Because you didn't even want
894
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,908
to have me, did you?
895
00:33:22,008 --> 00:33:22,968
Objection.
896
00:33:23,068 --> 00:33:25,303
Sustained.
897
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,120
You're embarrassed by me!
898
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,680
That's why you're trying
to put me away.
899
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,400
You want me in jail
900
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,000
so that you never have
to see me again.
901
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,160
That's not true. I love you.
902
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,095
How does it feel
to sell out your own son?
903
00:33:45,195 --> 00:33:47,063
Hmm?
904
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,880
America's been trying
to destroy Islam for years.
905
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,515
It sides with the Jews
against the Palestinians
906
00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:06,630
because America is
a Judeo-Christian country.
907
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:11,250
Since 1990, it has occupied
our holy lands in Saudi Arabia.
908
00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:14,310
American women walk around
with their faces uncovered
909
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:15,550
in our holiest city.
910
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:19,210
America doesn't respect
any culture but its own.
911
00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:21,930
Your Honor, is any of this
relevant?
912
00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:23,030
Let him talk,
Mr. McCoy.
913
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:24,290
It's his right.
914
00:34:29,330 --> 00:34:31,450
You think that your way
is the only way
915
00:34:31,610 --> 00:34:34,290
and feel that you have the right
to invade anyone who disagrees--
916
00:34:34,930 --> 00:34:36,798
Bosnia, Somalia, Iraq.
917
00:34:37,490 --> 00:34:39,050
You try to assimilate the world.
918
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:40,150
America is a country
919
00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:43,250
that was born out of the
mass murder of Native Americans
920
00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:45,470
and built on the backs
of Africans.
921
00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:48,510
If the Native Americans
could've defended themselves
922
00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:51,906
by flying planes into buildings,
don't you think they would've?
923
00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:54,390
If the slaves could've freed
themselves by becoming martyrs
924
00:34:54,610 --> 00:34:56,945
don't you think
that they would've?
925
00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:58,110
And it wouldn't
have been terrorism...
926
00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:00,500
it would've been self-defense.
927
00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:08,180
So killing a woman who
challenges your view of Islam
928
00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:09,327
is self-defense?
929
00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:11,080
I didn't kill her,
Michael Sanchez did.
930
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,168
How did he get
your father's gun?
931
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:14,220
I don't know.
932
00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:15,340
Why would Michael Sanchez
933
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,420
target an advocate
for Muslim women?
934
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:20,080
It was a robbery;
you heard him say that.
935
00:35:20,260 --> 00:35:21,560
But you're not sad she's dead.
936
00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:22,995
She didn't know
her place.
937
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,703
Quran 4:34 says Allah made men
superior to women.
938
00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:28,620
Under your perversion
of the religion.
939
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:30,108
See, this is what
I'm talking about.
940
00:35:30,820 --> 00:35:32,700
Any religion that Americans
don't understand
941
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,140
they call perverted.
942
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:35,460
If we could get back
to the homicides
943
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,820
Mr. McCoy.
944
00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:38,580
Yeah, go ahead, Mr. McCoy,
go ahead.
945
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:39,420
Listen to the lady.
946
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:40,980
Excuse me?
No, I won't.
947
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:43,360
I will not allow a female
to judge me.
948
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:44,520
That's enough for today.
949
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:47,289
We'll pick it up
tomorrow, 9:30.
950
00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:57,100
From what I saw
951
00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:59,220
he's nowhere near
legally insane.
952
00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:02,290
Just your garden variety
fanatic fundamentalist.
953
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:04,530
If this had been
about politics
954
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:06,690
he probably would've
become an anarchist.
955
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:08,150
If it was about music
956
00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:10,810
he could've gotten into
grunge and heavy metal.
957
00:36:11,350 --> 00:36:12,190
He picked religion
958
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:15,030
specifically Islam,
for a specific reason.
959
00:36:15,130 --> 00:36:16,531
Adolescent rebellion.
960
00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:18,630
No, he could've
bought a motorcycle
961
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:19,650
or pierced his tongue.
962
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,030
People who become
fundamentalists do so because
963
00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:24,810
there's a part of the dogma
that resonates with them.
964
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:26,430
There's something
in their psyche
965
00:36:26,590 --> 00:36:27,430
that draws them
966
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:28,730
to a distorted interpretation
967
00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:30,710
of an otherwise
legitimate religion.
968
00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:32,870
There's a sect for every nut.
969
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:34,350
Exactly.
970
00:36:34,350 --> 00:36:36,210
But what is it
about militant Islam
971
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:37,450
that Landen finds
972
00:36:37,551 --> 00:36:39,352
so appealing?
973
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:44,470
Sanchez shot Hugh Murdoch.
974
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:47,540
Landen shot his wife.
975
00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:50,770
"Allah made men
superior to women."
976
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:51,830
My guess
977
00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:54,150
is he is terrified of women.
978
00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:56,310
Militant Islam
eases that anxiety
979
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:57,690
by making women subordinate.
980
00:36:58,430 --> 00:37:02,234
Landen became a slave of Allah
because he couldn't get a date?
981
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:03,770
I'm not saying
982
00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:05,250
it's as simple as that, Jack.
983
00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:07,810
But I did see how
he reacted to Judge Borke
984
00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:10,190
and I saw how his mother
reacted to him.
985
00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:13,290
So Mommy made him do it?
986
00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:14,130
She walked
out on him.
987
00:37:14,130 --> 00:37:16,990
Castration hurts whether
it's surgical or emotional.
988
00:37:18,130 --> 00:37:20,170
He can't confront
his mother directly.
989
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:23,670
I think he's scared to death
of women, period.
990
00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:28,650
And what would happen if a woman
challenged him, literally?
991
00:37:28,650 --> 00:37:31,130
You're talking about
Louise Murdoch?
992
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:32,130
I'm talking about Serena.
993
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:38,570
Your Honor,
with the court's permission
994
00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:41,013
Ms. Southerlyn will continue
with the cross examination.
995
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:43,350
That's fine with me.
996
00:37:53,570 --> 00:37:55,570
How are you feeling today, Greg?
997
00:37:55,570 --> 00:37:57,230
I can get you a glass
of water, if you like.
998
00:37:57,330 --> 00:37:58,431
I'm fine.
999
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,520
I'm sorry, that's right,
I wouldn't want to be party
1000
00:38:00,660 --> 00:38:03,600
to you violating any of
your vows of self-sacrifice.
1001
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:06,280
Religion is not meant
to be easy.
1002
00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:09,180
Like during Ramadan when a man is drawn
closer to God
1003
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,100
by disregarding
his earthly needs.
1004
00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:13,100
And what's the other one,
Shuha...?
1005
00:38:13,128 --> 00:38:15,497
Shuhada.
Right.
1006
00:38:15,597 --> 00:38:16,557
That's it.
1007
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:19,500
The prayer before you give
your life for God.
1008
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,700
It's an honor to die for Allah.
1009
00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:24,975
And Allah wanted
Louise Murdoch dead?
1010
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:27,160
She defied his will.
1011
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:30,460
So, whoever actually
pulled the trigger
1012
00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:32,100
would be the true slave to Allah
1013
00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:34,540
and should be honored
to accept the consequences
1014
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:38,170
of that act, is that correct?
1015
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:42,760
Yet you keep denying it.
1016
00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:47,180
Is that because you're scared
1017
00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:49,300
to accept
those consequences?
1018
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,300
Scared of the Shuhada?
1019
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:52,540
You are just like Murdoch.
1020
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:55,730
You're both enemies to Islam.
1021
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:58,530
She poisons women against men.
1022
00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:00,790
She has killed her unborn child
1023
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:02,430
and serves liquor
in her home.
1024
00:39:07,150 --> 00:39:08,430
So you shot her in the back.
1025
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:22,770
You don't have to say
that, you know.
1026
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:24,230
No, you were great, Serena.
1027
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:25,290
You cracked him like a walnut.
1028
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:27,370
He didn't actually crack.
1029
00:39:27,870 --> 00:39:28,930
Don't be so sure of that.
1030
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:30,952
Landen said in court
that Louise Murdoch
1031
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,210
had killed her unborn child.
1032
00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:35,530
I thought that was
just part of his rant.
1033
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:36,610
What if Louise Murdoch
1034
00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:38,665
did have an abortion?
1035
00:39:38,765 --> 00:39:39,800
How would he know?
1036
00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:42,130
And how would he know
about her open-door policy
1037
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:43,990
or the fact that
she threw parties
1038
00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:45,158
where alcohol
was served?
1039
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:47,706
How could he possibly
know about any of that?
1040
00:39:47,790 --> 00:39:48,630
He knew her.
1041
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,240
Anyone that ges into Louise's offie
1042
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:57,400
has to get by me first.
1043
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,689
And you never saw her
with Greg Landen?
1044
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,040
I've been following
the trial.
1045
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,729
Believe me, if I
recognized the S.O.B.
1046
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,980
I would've
called you guys.
1047
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,720
Maybe one of her students...
1048
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,440
She wasn't teaching
this semester.
1049
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,000
But she did have some students
helping her research the book.
1050
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,623
Anyone who went
to Strickland Academy?
1051
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,160
You should've
come forward, Jennifer.
1052
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,080
I didn't know it had
anything to do with me.
1053
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,240
Denial's a wonderful thing,
isn't it?
1054
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:29,220
Murdoch was your friend.
1055
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,320
And that's why...
1056
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,060
I prayed it had
nothing to do with me.
1057
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,535
Well, why don't you
tell me what you do know.
1058
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,340
Greg and I were friends.
1059
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,840
But that was way before
1060
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,280
he got into the
whole Muslim thing.
1061
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,644
Did you tell him
about Louise Murdoch?
1062
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,200
Maybe there was a little
hero worship going on.
1063
00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:55,390
She got me excited
about women's rights.
1064
00:40:55,570 --> 00:40:57,290
She opened my eyes
to what was going on
1065
00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:58,410
in some Muslim countries.
1066
00:40:58,810 --> 00:40:59,930
And you opened Greg's eyes.
1067
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:01,932
I guess.
1068
00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:05,710
Once I even dragged Greg
to dinner with her.
1069
00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:09,866
Are you saying that
you two were involved?
1070
00:41:09,966 --> 00:41:12,450
Sure...
1071
00:41:12,450 --> 00:41:13,970
I guess.
If you could even call it that.
1072
00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:21,222
What exactly does that mean?
1073
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:23,570
We've already
been through this.
1074
00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:25,230
I'm not accepting
any of your deals.
1075
00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:27,970
You're not here as
a defendant, Mr. Landen.
1076
00:41:27,970 --> 00:41:30,410
I asked you here in your capacity as your
own counsel.
1077
00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:31,930
We want to call a witness
1078
00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:33,930
that wasn't on our
initial witness list.
1079
00:41:34,690 --> 00:41:35,570
Call whoever you want.
1080
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:37,250
I don't care.
1081
00:41:40,690 --> 00:41:44,527
I appreciate your amenability,
Mr. Landen.
1082
00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:46,432
Legally, you're entitled
to question her
1083
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:47,990
before she takes the stand.
1084
00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:53,201
We both know that's going
to be a waste of time.
1085
00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:57,208
This is our additional witness,
Mr. Landen.
1086
00:41:57,308 --> 00:42:02,213
Jennifer Taylor.
1087
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:03,440
I think you know
each other.
1088
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,420
How could you, Greg?
1089
00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:24,324
Did you do this because of me?
1090
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:26,620
Think about it, Greg.
1091
00:42:27,940 --> 00:42:29,900
Think about what Jennifer
will say on the stand...
1092
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,560
in front of your friends,
the press...
1093
00:42:35,661 --> 00:42:38,297
your mother...
1094
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,240
the whole world...
1095
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,642
Shut up!
1096
00:42:41,742 --> 00:42:42,843
Shut up!
1097
00:42:43,460 --> 00:42:45,120
You shut up!
'Cause I am a man!
1098
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,840
I am a man, no matter what
she says about me.
1099
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:57,242
Okay?
1100
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,080
You laughed at me.
1101
00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:14,150
You laughed.
1102
00:43:19,188 --> 00:43:22,792
You shouldn't have laughed.
1103
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,654
Well, at least
at his allocution
1104
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,537
Landen apologized to the
entire Muslim community.
1105
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,320
Olivet was right,
he wasn't a true believer.
1106
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,360
He was just
a humiliated adolescent.
1107
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,780
All in all, I'd say
we're damn lucky
1108
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,470
this was just one
screwball kid.
1109
00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:51,993
An angry kid full of rage,
just looking for a target.
1110
00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:55,330
Isn't that what
a terrorist is?
1111
00:43:55,330 --> 00:43:57,830
What's scary is how easy
it is to create one.
1112
00:44:14,847 --> 00:44:19,585
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