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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,418 --> 00:00:02,460 the people are represented 2 00:00:02,502 --> 00:00:04,796 by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:04,838 --> 00:00:06,089 the police, who investigate crime 4 00:00:06,131 --> 00:00:09,259 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:10,593 These are their stories. 6 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:37,746 What's it today, Judge? 7 00:00:37,787 --> 00:00:38,747 Muder? Rape? 8 00:00:38,788 --> 00:00:40,206 Possession with intent. 9 00:00:40,248 --> 00:00:41,166 13 pounds of heroin. 10 00:00:41,207 --> 00:00:42,125 Hoo! 11 00:00:42,167 --> 00:00:43,460 What's that get you? 12 00:00:43,501 --> 00:00:45,545 A lethal injection. 13 00:00:47,464 --> 00:00:49,507 I have a lunch today at 1:00, Rodney. 14 00:00:49,549 --> 00:00:50,508 You got it, Judge. 15 00:00:56,181 --> 00:00:57,515 That son of a bitch. 16 00:00:57,557 --> 00:00:58,683 Are you all right, Rodney? 17 00:00:58,725 --> 00:00:59,476 I got winged. 18 00:00:59,517 --> 00:01:01,519 Get this man medical attention. 19 00:01:01,561 --> 00:01:02,520 Right away. 20 00:01:02,562 --> 00:01:04,647 Central, we need an A.M.S., one man down... 21 00:01:04,689 --> 00:01:06,900 Judge, you better get inside. 22 00:01:09,527 --> 00:01:11,321 Detective Hill got out of his car 23 00:01:11,363 --> 00:01:13,156 this guy runs right at the Judge, shooting. 24 00:01:13,198 --> 00:01:14,699 Was Hill's the one who got him? 25 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:15,825 Yeah, he took one himself. 26 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:16,826 Really? How bad? 27 00:01:16,868 --> 00:01:18,328 Paramedic said he'll be fine. 28 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:20,413 Damn, talk about smoking guns. 29 00:01:20,455 --> 00:01:22,332 No wallet, no I.D. on him. 30 00:01:22,374 --> 00:01:23,333 And where's the Judge? 31 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:24,459 Court officers took her inside. 32 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:25,710 Who is she? 33 00:01:25,752 --> 00:01:27,504 Uh, Judge Linda Karlin. 34 00:01:27,545 --> 00:01:28,671 Thanks. 35 00:01:28,713 --> 00:01:30,131 Karlin's the one that put away 36 00:01:30,173 --> 00:01:31,591 most of the Washington Heights Cowboys 37 00:01:31,633 --> 00:01:32,634 a few years back. 38 00:01:32,676 --> 00:01:35,387 Now, who'd want to see her dead? 39 00:01:39,683 --> 00:01:43,478 [Captioning sponsored by STUDIOS USA TELEVISION 40 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,189 and NBC] 41 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:28,231 Hey, how's the arm? Not bad. 42 00:02:28,273 --> 00:02:29,691 You did a good job back there. 43 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:30,483 I don't know. 44 00:02:30,525 --> 00:02:32,193 I think I let my guard down a little. 45 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:33,278 I've been on her six months-- 46 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:34,237 nothing's ever happened. 47 00:02:34,279 --> 00:02:35,530 Hey, don't sweat it. 48 00:02:35,572 --> 00:02:36,448 You saved her life. 49 00:02:36,489 --> 00:02:37,657 You ever see the shooter before? Never. 50 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:40,452 How long's Karlin been getting this door-to-door service? 51 00:02:40,493 --> 00:02:42,579 Three years-- I pick her up, take her to work 52 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:44,247 hand her off to the court officers. 53 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:47,083 Most judges take the subway. 54 00:02:47,125 --> 00:02:48,084 Not Karlin. 55 00:02:48,126 --> 00:02:49,669 She's got someone on her 24-7 56 00:02:49,711 --> 00:02:52,630 on account of her reputation as a high-profile hard-ass. 57 00:02:52,672 --> 00:02:53,965 Where is she now? 58 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:54,758 Knowing her? 59 00:02:54,799 --> 00:02:57,469 On the bench. 60 00:02:57,510 --> 00:02:59,137 If I don't go right back to work 61 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:00,972 these people will think they can intimidate me. 62 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:02,265 Well, still, you might try 63 00:03:02,307 --> 00:03:04,350 taking a few extra precautions, Judge. 64 00:03:04,392 --> 00:03:05,310 We can get you a vest. 65 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:07,312 The man's dead, isn't he, detectives? 66 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:09,272 He might not have been working alone. 67 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:11,191 Yes, well, a lot of dangerous people 68 00:03:11,232 --> 00:03:12,609 pass through my courtroom. 69 00:03:12,651 --> 00:03:14,027 Well, you recognize this one? 70 00:03:14,069 --> 00:03:16,780 He's about 200 pounds, six-three. 71 00:03:16,821 --> 00:03:18,448 No, I don't recognize him. 72 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:20,492 What about your calendar, Judge? 73 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:23,328 Any gang members, any organized crime cases? 74 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:24,829 Nothing out of the ordinary. 75 00:03:24,871 --> 00:03:27,082 Look, these people don't like me 76 00:03:27,123 --> 00:03:28,166 and I don't like them. 77 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,626 Okay, how about somebody 78 00:03:29,668 --> 00:03:30,794 other than these people. 79 00:03:30,835 --> 00:03:33,296 Say, a defense attorney you pissed off? 80 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:34,798 Just about every defense attorney 81 00:03:34,839 --> 00:03:36,174 who walks out of my courtroom 82 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:37,342 is angry about something. 83 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:39,302 You're not giving us much to go on, Judge. 84 00:03:39,344 --> 00:03:41,054 I've been on the bench for 14 years. 85 00:03:41,096 --> 00:03:42,972 I was an Assistant D.A. before that. 86 00:03:43,014 --> 00:03:45,809 I've made a lot of enemies. 87 00:03:45,850 --> 00:03:48,186 We got no print matches for our shooter in the system. 88 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,145 Any luck with the gun? 89 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:50,397 Serial number's gone 90 00:03:50,438 --> 00:03:52,816 but ballistics said they might be able to recover it. 91 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:54,359 A run-and-shoot with a defaced .38? 92 00:03:54,401 --> 00:03:55,318 Sounds pretty low-tech. 93 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,487 Hey, if it was one of the perps on her case load 94 00:03:57,529 --> 00:03:58,613 his prints would have popped. 95 00:03:58,655 --> 00:04:01,199 Well, if we don't know the who, how about the why? 96 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:02,701 Maybe somebody was doing a friend a favor. 97 00:04:02,784 --> 00:04:04,369 I mean, in some circles knocking her off 98 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:05,829 would be like doing community service. 99 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:08,123 You sound like she deserved it. 100 00:04:08,164 --> 00:04:09,499 No, I'm just saying 101 00:04:09,541 --> 00:04:11,084 this woman racks up years on people 102 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:12,210 like Tiger racks up tournaments. 103 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:13,378 Well, before we go culling 104 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:15,463 through 10,000 case files 105 00:04:15,505 --> 00:04:18,341 let's rule out the usual suspects. 106 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,680 I begged my wife to at least take the day off 107 00:04:23,722 --> 00:04:25,515 but that's Linda. 108 00:04:25,557 --> 00:04:26,850 How long you two been married? 109 00:04:26,891 --> 00:04:28,518 22 years. 110 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,644 We met at a fund-raiser 111 00:04:29,686 --> 00:04:31,396 when she was in the D.A.'s office. 112 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:32,355 Our first conversation 113 00:04:32,397 --> 00:04:34,899 was a heated debate over the death penalty. 114 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:36,526 Sounds romantic. 115 00:04:36,568 --> 00:04:38,737 Let me guess-- she was pro, you were con. 116 00:04:38,778 --> 00:04:42,365 My wife's a woman of strong convictions. 117 00:04:42,407 --> 00:04:43,283 Can you think of anybody 118 00:04:43,324 --> 00:04:45,577 who might want to hurt your wife, Mr. Karlin? 119 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:48,580 Besides the criminals she prosecutes? 120 00:04:48,621 --> 00:04:50,874 Any financial problems? 121 00:04:50,915 --> 00:04:53,209 I wish we'd sold our tech portfolio a year ago. 122 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:54,544 You and me both. 123 00:04:54,586 --> 00:04:57,338 Has your wife received any threats recently? 124 00:04:57,380 --> 00:05:00,383 Linda doesn't like to bring that part of the job home. 125 00:05:00,425 --> 00:05:03,636 It's all handled at the courthouse. 126 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:06,181 Well, the Karlins' private life sounds like a snooze. 127 00:05:06,222 --> 00:05:08,767 Let's go check out some of these death threats. 128 00:05:08,808 --> 00:05:10,435 Needle in a haystack time. 129 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,274 Threats against judges are tough to investigate. 130 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:17,651 Most aren't serious anyway. 131 00:05:17,692 --> 00:05:19,277 Karlin ever get any threats? 132 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:20,236 She's our best customer. 133 00:05:20,278 --> 00:05:21,738 We need to see what you got. 134 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:22,906 I was expecting you. 135 00:05:22,947 --> 00:05:25,283 Anything recent? 136 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:29,913 I found this, just last Tuesday. 137 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:32,248 "Karlin, you stank-ass bitch. 138 00:05:32,290 --> 00:05:34,459 I'm going to make you lick my Mac-10." 139 00:05:34,501 --> 00:05:36,294 I take it the motion was denied? 140 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:37,837 We found that on the bench 141 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:39,631 in one of the bullpens on the 12th floor. 142 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:41,299 How many guys went through that lockup 143 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:42,300 the day you found it? 144 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:43,385 I'm not sure. 145 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:44,386 Cell capacity's about 100. 146 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:45,387 I can get you a list. 147 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:46,429 You ever pursue it? 148 00:05:46,471 --> 00:05:47,389 Even if we found this guy 149 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:49,099 it's probably protected by the First Amendment. 150 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:50,642 There's nothing we could prosecute on. 151 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:53,269 There is now. 152 00:05:53,311 --> 00:05:54,562 Court's in recess. 153 00:05:54,604 --> 00:05:56,815 Judge Karlin's not back till 2:15. 154 00:05:56,856 --> 00:05:59,275 Actually, we need to speak to you. 155 00:05:59,317 --> 00:06:00,944 Any of these guys have a case here last Tuesday? 156 00:06:00,985 --> 00:06:02,946 I wouldn't recognize the names. 157 00:06:02,987 --> 00:06:05,281 Tuesday's the judge's calendar day. 158 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:07,283 You got a copy of the calendar? 159 00:06:07,325 --> 00:06:09,536 Hey, this isn't Yankee Stadium, eh? 160 00:06:09,577 --> 00:06:11,913 Hats off! 161 00:06:11,955 --> 00:06:15,291 Yeah, right here. 162 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:16,543 Thanks. Is there any way 163 00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:19,170 somebody could smuggle a weapon in here? 164 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:20,130 I have two guys 165 00:06:20,171 --> 00:06:22,424 hand-scanning everyone who walks through here 166 00:06:22,465 --> 00:06:24,175 and that's after they go through 167 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:25,510 the metal detector downstairs. 168 00:06:25,552 --> 00:06:27,345 Is it standard procedure? 169 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:28,680 Standard for Judge Karlin. 170 00:06:28,763 --> 00:06:32,225 We got a match. 171 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:33,393 Evan Bruce. 172 00:06:33,435 --> 00:06:34,436 Kidnap Two. 173 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:36,813 I remember that case. 174 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:38,356 It was an a.m. call. 175 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:41,443 We brought the guy in from the Tombs next door. 176 00:06:41,484 --> 00:06:42,986 We're looking for an inmate. 177 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:44,321 Right place-- you got a name? 178 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:45,530 Evan Bruce. 179 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:47,324 Forget to read him his rights? 180 00:06:47,365 --> 00:06:49,492 No, we're here to collect on his pledge 181 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:51,327 to the Police Athletic League. 182 00:06:51,369 --> 00:06:52,329 Evan Bruce. 183 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:54,372 Checked in in September. 184 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:55,665 Any problems? 185 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:58,835 Problems? 186 00:06:58,877 --> 00:07:00,712 Yeah, you know, disciplinary infractions? 187 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:01,963 Nothing. 188 00:07:02,005 --> 00:07:03,006 How about psych workups? 189 00:07:03,048 --> 00:07:04,716 That information's confidential. 190 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,009 I wouldn't have access. 191 00:07:06,051 --> 00:07:07,594 Well, we need to talk to him. 192 00:07:07,635 --> 00:07:09,262 Too late. 193 00:07:09,304 --> 00:07:12,557 He was released three days ago. 194 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:13,516 Why I got to come down here? 195 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:15,727 You realize threatening a judge is a felony? 196 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:17,020 I ain't threatened no judge. 197 00:07:17,062 --> 00:07:18,396 That's crazy, man. 198 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:19,522 More like stupid. 199 00:07:19,564 --> 00:07:22,317 Somebody sent Judge Karlin this little love letter. 200 00:07:22,359 --> 00:07:25,028 Whoever wrote it called her a stank-ass bitch. 201 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:26,571 Wasn't me. 202 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:28,365 We want you to write it for us. 203 00:07:28,406 --> 00:07:30,367 Write it: "stank-ass bitch." 204 00:07:41,294 --> 00:07:42,712 Look, Lennie. 205 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:44,756 He misspelled bitch. 206 00:07:44,798 --> 00:07:46,925 Again. 207 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:49,344 All right, look. 208 00:07:49,386 --> 00:07:50,678 I was just letting go of my anger 209 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,805 for being in there so long. 210 00:07:51,846 --> 00:07:54,557 Is that what you call taking three shots at a judge? 211 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:56,267 Is this guy a friend of yours? 212 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:58,061 Hey, does he look like a friend on mine? 213 00:07:58,103 --> 00:07:59,938 We don't know who you keep company with. 214 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:02,691 Look, half the people that walked out of that courtroom 215 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:03,733 wanted that bitch... 216 00:08:03,775 --> 00:08:05,276 I mean, that judge dead. 217 00:08:05,318 --> 00:08:06,861 Yeah, but most of them 218 00:08:06,903 --> 00:08:09,072 didn't write her a threatening note. 219 00:08:09,114 --> 00:08:10,156 Why I'm gonna kill her? 220 00:08:10,198 --> 00:08:13,076 My lawyer beat the case on a speedy trial motion. 221 00:08:13,118 --> 00:08:15,120 Ain't nothing she can do to me now. 222 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:17,372 Well, maybe you'd better hang on to that lawyer 223 00:08:17,372 --> 00:08:19,624 'cause we're going to send this to the D.A. 224 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:21,418 and see if they want to prosecute. 225 00:08:21,459 --> 00:08:23,086 Just got this from ballistics. 226 00:08:23,128 --> 00:08:25,714 They recovered the serial number from the gun. 227 00:08:25,755 --> 00:08:29,092 It traced to the Lodi, New Jersey Police Department. 228 00:08:43,398 --> 00:08:45,817 So, what brings you to Lodi, Detectives? 229 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,986 We're investigating an attempted murder in Manhattan. 230 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:48,945 You know this guy? 231 00:08:48,987 --> 00:08:51,865 Mmm. You said attempted murder. 232 00:08:51,906 --> 00:08:54,159 Yeah, he was killed in a shoot-out with the NYPD. 233 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,952 His .38 traced to your department. 234 00:08:55,994 --> 00:08:57,495 Oh, we don't use .38's anymore. 235 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,832 We went to nine millimeter automatics two years ago. 236 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:02,500 So did most of us. 237 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,919 Could it be that one of your guys kept one as a backup? 238 00:09:04,961 --> 00:09:08,423 Eh, we traded them all in to knock the price down on our new weapons. 239 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:10,842 You mean there are police-issue guns on the street? 240 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:11,968 This is a small department 241 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:12,761 with a tight budget. 242 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:14,262 We can't afford to melt them down. 243 00:09:14,304 --> 00:09:17,140 This gun was used to shoot at a judge. 244 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:21,144 Look, if a dealer sold the gun legally 245 00:09:21,186 --> 00:09:21,478 it should show up on the state's database. 246 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:21,895 Excuse me. 247 00:09:21,936 --> 00:09:23,021 You Vince Ellis? 248 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:24,064 Far as I know. 249 00:09:25,106 --> 00:09:27,025 We got your name off the State Handgun Registry. 250 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:29,861 You bought a .38 about a year ago? 251 00:09:29,903 --> 00:09:30,987 Yeah, but I ain't got it no more. 252 00:09:31,029 --> 00:09:32,572 It was stolen. 253 00:09:32,614 --> 00:09:34,032 When was that? 254 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:36,159 Noticed it missing about two weeks ago. 255 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:37,827 You report it to the police? 256 00:09:37,869 --> 00:09:38,995 Didn't get around to it yet. 257 00:09:39,037 --> 00:09:41,831 You heard about this judge that got shot at in the city? 258 00:09:41,873 --> 00:09:43,500 The one where the shooter got killed? 259 00:09:43,541 --> 00:09:45,168 What about it? 260 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:48,338 We found your gun in the shooter's hand. 261 00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:50,256 Uh... 262 00:09:50,298 --> 00:09:52,175 Who is it? 263 00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:55,220 You know, we could charge you 264 00:09:55,261 --> 00:09:57,514 right now, as an accomplice, Mr. Ellis. 265 00:09:57,555 --> 00:10:01,851 It's my nephew, Frankie. 266 00:10:01,893 --> 00:10:03,937 Frank Morris. 267 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:05,188 Where does he live? 268 00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:06,981 Over in Paterson. 269 00:10:07,023 --> 00:10:09,985 He was in here a few nights last week. 270 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:11,403 Asked if he could use my .38. 271 00:10:11,444 --> 00:10:12,404 And you let him. 272 00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:13,363 Said he'd give me $200 273 00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:15,323 just to borrow it, I told him, "No way." 274 00:10:15,365 --> 00:10:16,908 Next night, I come in and it's gone. 275 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:20,537 That's a pretty convenient explanation. 276 00:10:20,578 --> 00:10:22,038 It's the truth! Look, $200? 277 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,082 I knew something real bad was going down. 278 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:26,418 I ain't risking my place here for that kind of money. 279 00:10:26,501 --> 00:10:28,211 So why'd you file down the serial number? 280 00:10:28,253 --> 00:10:29,421 I didn't. 281 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,131 Frankie must have done it 282 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,383 so's it couldn't get back to me. 283 00:10:33,425 --> 00:10:35,677 He couldn't even get that right. 284 00:10:35,719 --> 00:10:39,597 So where's this in Paterson? 285 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,474 How long are you guys going to be here? 286 00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:42,392 Couple more hours. 287 00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,019 Then who's going to move out his stuff? 288 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:45,895 We'll get back to you on that. 289 00:10:45,937 --> 00:10:48,940 Well, if Morris got paid, it isn't here. 290 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,066 Got some nice magazines. 291 00:10:50,108 --> 00:10:51,943 Hot Lace. Rough and Ready. 292 00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:54,070 Are you going to need those? 293 00:10:57,282 --> 00:10:59,075 Hey, here's a driver's license 294 00:10:59,117 --> 00:11:02,078 with the name "John Sheppard" on it. 295 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,039 And Morris's picture. 296 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,041 Standard issue for a swindler that old. 297 00:11:06,082 --> 00:11:07,459 Hey, did Morris have a car? 298 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,961 Uh, yeah. The Camaro out front. 299 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:12,130 It's worth a look. 300 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,049 We're not breaking any laws here, are we, Detective? 301 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:15,258 Hey, the guy's dead. 302 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:18,136 It's not like he's going to be filing a suppression motion. 303 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,472 These '85s are a little tougher than the '86s. 304 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,640 Anything before '82's cake. 305 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:24,059 Got it. 306 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,561 Could have used one of these on prom night. 307 00:11:26,603 --> 00:11:28,772 Ed, you want to pop the trunk? 308 00:11:34,277 --> 00:11:35,403 Nothing back here, Ed. 309 00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:38,490 We got nothing here, either. 310 00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:40,283 So what do you want to do with it? 311 00:11:40,325 --> 00:11:41,451 Can you tow it? 312 00:11:41,493 --> 00:11:43,078 Sure. What was the owner's name? 313 00:11:43,119 --> 00:11:44,204 Frank Morris. 314 00:11:44,245 --> 00:11:44,996 Morris, Morris... 315 00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:46,581 Wait a second, I think the Staties 316 00:11:46,623 --> 00:11:48,291 were looking at a guy with that name. 317 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:50,460 Looking at him for what? 318 00:11:50,502 --> 00:11:53,004 A murder. 319 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:55,298 Chief witness in a narcotics case got killed. 320 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:57,092 Morris was our only suspect. 321 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:58,343 Who was the defendant? 322 00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:00,095 Major heroin dealer down in Camden. 323 00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:01,638 We flipped one of his clockers. 324 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,140 He got dead three days before the trial started. 325 00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:05,350 Shooting? 326 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:07,560 Middle of the day-- two pops while he's killing a brew 327 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:09,187 on the front porch-- nobody saw a thing. 328 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,106 What's this dealer's connection to Morris? 329 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:13,441 No prior relationship we could make out. 330 00:12:13,483 --> 00:12:16,152 The best we could figure, Morris was a small-time lowlife 331 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,195 just trying to make his bones. 332 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:18,697 Yeah, his sheet was clean. 333 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,615 Yeah, kid had a great future ahead of him. 334 00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:23,827 So I take it you just didn't have much evidence. 335 00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:25,704 Nothing we could make stick-- but we could put him 336 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:27,998 in the informant's neighborhood the day of the murder 337 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:30,208 and he visited the defendant at Rahway Prison a week before. 338 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:33,294 A hit man who makes house calls. 339 00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:36,172 Karlin's a Manhattan judge 340 00:12:36,214 --> 00:12:38,341 so anybody she puts in pending trial 341 00:12:38,383 --> 00:12:40,760 is either in Riker's or the Tombs. 342 00:12:40,802 --> 00:12:42,721 So we pulled the visitors' log from the last three weeks. 343 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:44,347 You find Morris? 344 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:45,265 "John Sheppard." 345 00:12:45,306 --> 00:12:47,392 Now, that's the name that was on the fake ID 346 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:48,685 we found in Morris's apartment. 347 00:12:48,727 --> 00:12:51,187 So Sheppard visited an inmate at Riker's 348 00:12:51,229 --> 00:12:53,356 named Randall Wylie on March 7? 349 00:12:53,398 --> 00:12:55,734 Yeah, they spent 25 minutes together 350 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,360 eight days before the hit. 351 00:12:57,402 --> 00:12:59,696 Well, what charge was this Wylie in for? 352 00:12:59,738 --> 00:13:01,239 It's a paper case. The guy's a CPA. 353 00:13:01,281 --> 00:13:02,240 Now, here's the kicker: 354 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:06,244 Wylie's case is currently before Judge Karlin. 355 00:13:10,415 --> 00:13:12,208 Have you guys spoken to my lawyer? 356 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:17,172 We're not here about your current case, Mr. Wylie. 357 00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:19,257 Oh. Then what's this about? 358 00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:20,175 According to the prison log 359 00:13:20,216 --> 00:13:23,386 a John Sheppard visited you on March 7th. 360 00:13:23,428 --> 00:13:25,346 John Sheppard? 361 00:13:25,388 --> 00:13:27,265 Yeah. You know him? 362 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:28,016 No. 363 00:13:28,058 --> 00:13:30,435 Then why'd he come and visit you? 364 00:13:30,477 --> 00:13:33,188 Uh, an officer came by and said someone was here for me 365 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:34,397 in the visiting area. 366 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:36,358 When I came out, it was this guy-- 367 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:37,734 Sheppard. 368 00:13:37,776 --> 00:13:39,277 I asked him who he was. 369 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:41,529 He told me my lawyer had sent him. 370 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:44,407 Sent him about what? 371 00:13:44,449 --> 00:13:47,243 He said he was assisting her on my case. 372 00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:50,246 Assisting her? How? 373 00:13:50,288 --> 00:13:52,290 That's what I was thinking. 374 00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:54,084 After a couple of minutes, it became clear 375 00:13:54,125 --> 00:13:55,710 he didn't know anything about my case, either 376 00:13:55,752 --> 00:13:56,586 so I left. 377 00:13:56,628 --> 00:13:58,421 You didn't find this strange, Mr. Wylie? 378 00:13:58,463 --> 00:14:01,091 A lot of strange things happen in here. 379 00:14:01,132 --> 00:14:04,094 I figured somebody must have just written down 380 00:14:04,135 --> 00:14:05,428 the wrong inmate number 381 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:06,638 or something. 382 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,098 But he knew who you were? 383 00:14:08,139 --> 00:14:11,226 Well, look, what does this have to do with me? 384 00:14:11,267 --> 00:14:12,644 A week after he visited you 385 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:14,771 John Sheppard tried to kill Judge Karlin. 386 00:14:14,813 --> 00:14:17,899 You know who Judge Karlin is, don't you? 387 00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:20,318 I had nothing to do with that. 388 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,237 So it's just a coincidence 389 00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:24,280 that he comes to visit you out of the blue 390 00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:27,325 and then, a week later, he takes a shot at yourjudge? 391 00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:31,621 I don't think my lawyer would want me talking to you anymore. 392 00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:36,418 This guy's about as menacing as Jeff Van Gundy. 393 00:14:36,459 --> 00:14:38,461 And doesn't even look like he's facing much time. 394 00:14:38,503 --> 00:14:39,421 Why risk killing a judge? 395 00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:40,880 Hey, he lied about how much time 396 00:14:40,922 --> 00:14:42,257 he spent with Morris that day. 397 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:45,719 Let's see if the Lieu can pull some strings in the Frauds Department. 398 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,846 Thanks. 399 00:14:49,723 --> 00:14:51,349 Thanks for coming down, Detective. 400 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:53,852 Sure. So what's up with my old buddy, Randall Wylie? 401 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,019 We're just trying to figure out 402 00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:58,148 if he's capable of more than just securities violations. 403 00:14:58,189 --> 00:14:59,482 As in Judge Karlin? 404 00:14:59,524 --> 00:15:00,734 That's what we're thinking. 405 00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:02,944 Wylie's a CFO of a small investment bank. 406 00:15:02,986 --> 00:15:04,321 Wife, two little girls 407 00:15:04,362 --> 00:15:05,780 plush house in Westchester. 408 00:15:05,822 --> 00:15:07,323 Got a little greedy. 409 00:15:07,365 --> 00:15:09,367 He took some stock from a company he was consulting. 410 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:11,786 He unloaded the shares, racked up almost half a million dollars 411 00:15:11,828 --> 00:15:13,580 in profit. 412 00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:15,373 But what's your gut, though? 413 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,667 Was he desperate enough to hire a hit man? 414 00:15:17,709 --> 00:15:19,627 Indictment turned his world upside-down 415 00:15:19,669 --> 00:15:21,379 and he was fired by his firm. 416 00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,506 We took him out of his office in handcuffs. 417 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:25,341 That had to be tough on his ego. 418 00:15:25,383 --> 00:15:26,342 And his wallet. 419 00:15:26,384 --> 00:15:28,887 D.A. froze most of his accounts, except for what 420 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,346 his family needed to pay his bills. 421 00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:32,557 So your answer is yes? 422 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,350 My answer is, who the hell knows 423 00:15:34,392 --> 00:15:36,519 what anybody is capable of, push comes to shove. 424 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:39,439 Here are the financials you wanted. 425 00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:43,902 Wylie's got more accounts than I got dollars. 426 00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:45,528 Brokerage accounts, money markets 427 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:46,654 four checking accounts. 428 00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:48,365 Yeah, but he ain't got nothing in them. 429 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:51,785 $300, $400, and all I'm seeing here are mortgage payments 430 00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:53,703 car payments, credit card bills. 431 00:15:53,745 --> 00:15:56,539 He couldn't afford to buy a gun, much less hire a killer. 432 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:57,457 And there are no 433 00:15:57,499 --> 00:16:00,251 major withdrawals, even before the freeze. 434 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:02,879 Here's his tax returns: 435 00:16:02,921 --> 00:16:05,298 "Gross income 436 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:06,424 246 grand." 437 00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:07,384 Wow. 438 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,386 Maybe he put some of that money in his mattress. 439 00:16:09,427 --> 00:16:11,471 Here's the Schedule A. 440 00:16:11,513 --> 00:16:12,305 You know Wylie's got 441 00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:14,682 a New York State College Tuition Account? 442 00:16:14,724 --> 00:16:19,270 I thought his two girls were little. 443 00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:25,276 The College Tuition Program's about three years old. 444 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:26,903 It helps people save for their kids' education. 445 00:16:26,945 --> 00:16:28,405 Can anybody open an account here? 446 00:16:28,446 --> 00:16:30,448 Yeah, if you live in New York and have a kid. 447 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:31,700 How old does the kid have to be? 448 00:16:31,741 --> 00:16:35,370 Well, you can open an account the same day you give birth. 449 00:16:35,412 --> 00:16:38,248 And, uh, does the money go directly to the kid's college? 450 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:39,457 You can withdraw from the account 451 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:43,545 but you incur a tax penalty if it's not used for tuition. 452 00:16:43,586 --> 00:16:48,258 Does a Randall Wylie still have an account here? 453 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:49,968 Let's see... 454 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,470 Randall Wylie... 455 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:54,472 Yeah. The account's still active. 456 00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:55,473 Any withdrawals recently? 457 00:16:55,557 --> 00:16:56,433 Uh... 458 00:16:56,474 --> 00:16:59,019 There was one on... 459 00:16:59,060 --> 00:16:59,853 March 12th. 460 00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:01,604 That's three days before the shooting. 461 00:17:01,646 --> 00:17:02,272 For how much? 462 00:17:02,313 --> 00:17:03,773 Practically the whole account. 463 00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:06,985 $100,000. 464 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:10,697 I guess he wasn't worried about a tax penalty. 465 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,870 We pulled the LUDs from the phone 466 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:18,288 Wylie had access to at Rikers-- 467 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:19,372 a week before the shooting 468 00:17:19,414 --> 00:17:21,958 there was a call to the bar where Morris got the gun. 469 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,335 Can we put Morris on the call? 470 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,627 He was at the bar. 471 00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:28,214 The next day he spent 25 minutes with Wylie in the Visitors Area. 472 00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:29,758 Money change hands? 473 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,761 Well, there was a $100,000 withdrawal 474 00:17:32,802 --> 00:17:35,013 from Wylie's daughter's tuition account. 475 00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:37,015 Any evidence it went to Morris? 476 00:17:37,057 --> 00:17:38,975 Nothing so far. 477 00:17:39,017 --> 00:17:44,022 Wylie's not some Colombian drug lord, Anita. 478 00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:46,858 We're having trouble imagining some milquetoast CPA 479 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:48,068 ordering a hit on a judge. 480 00:17:48,109 --> 00:17:52,155 Yeah, we're having some problems buying into it ourselves. 481 00:17:52,197 --> 00:17:55,325 Okay, well, Jack and I will talk to the ADA in our Frauds Bureau 482 00:17:55,367 --> 00:17:56,868 who was handling Wylie's case. 483 00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:58,995 We'll see how serious this situation was. 484 00:17:59,037 --> 00:18:00,663 Okay. 485 00:18:00,705 --> 00:18:02,332 You really think he went after Karlin? 486 00:18:02,374 --> 00:18:03,333 You tell us. 487 00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:04,376 I guess anything is possible. 488 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:05,669 You offer Wylie a plea? 489 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:06,711 Yeah, two to six. 490 00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:07,837 And he wasn't interested? 491 00:18:07,879 --> 00:18:08,672 Never got that far. 492 00:18:08,713 --> 00:18:10,423 Karlin wouldn't agree to the deal. 493 00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:11,883 She thought it was too lenient. 494 00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:13,009 Was it? 495 00:18:13,051 --> 00:18:14,344 It was nothing different than 496 00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,054 what Wylie could've gotten next door. 497 00:18:16,096 --> 00:18:17,347 But Karlin wanted top count 498 00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:18,390 no promise on sentence. 499 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,683 On the next adjourn-date, she put him in Rikers. 500 00:18:20,725 --> 00:18:21,935 With no priors? 501 00:18:21,976 --> 00:18:24,854 She found out that Wylie's wife went to the Cayman Islands. 502 00:18:24,896 --> 00:18:26,356 Offshore bank accounts. 503 00:18:26,398 --> 00:18:28,233 She flew me in and out the same day. 504 00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:29,984 She's not there for the snorkeling. 505 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,861 Karlin remanded him as a flight risk. 506 00:18:31,903 --> 00:18:32,988 How did Wylie react? 507 00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:33,947 He was pretty shaken up. 508 00:18:33,989 --> 00:18:35,949 When the court officers came in to cuff him 509 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,326 they had to drag his wife out kicking and screaming. 510 00:18:38,368 --> 00:18:39,327 I'm late for an arraignment. 511 00:18:39,369 --> 00:18:40,787 So, if there's anything else 512 00:18:40,829 --> 00:18:42,664 I'll be in my office later. 513 00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:43,707 Okay, thanks. 514 00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:47,168 Sounds like Wylie had a reason to want Karlin dead. 515 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:50,005 And if one reason wasn't enough, she gave him another. 516 00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:52,382 You think what she did was inappropriate? 517 00:18:52,424 --> 00:18:54,676 I respect her right to turn down a plea 518 00:18:54,718 --> 00:18:56,344 if she thought it was too lenient. 519 00:18:56,386 --> 00:18:58,263 But it forces Wylie to go to trial. 520 00:18:58,304 --> 00:18:59,848 How many judges would balk at 521 00:18:59,848 --> 00:19:01,182 the chance to dispose of a case? 522 00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:05,061 She treats her job as more than a numbers game; more power to her. 523 00:19:05,103 --> 00:19:07,439 A woman after your own heart. 524 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,442 The voters reelected her twice, Jack. 525 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,444 We know that Wylie's wife was pretty angry. 526 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,237 It wouldn't be the first time 527 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,947 that a family member went too far. 528 00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:18,366 Well, I have a meeting with her in Westchester. 529 00:19:18,408 --> 00:19:20,910 I'm going to drive up there this afternoon. 530 00:19:20,952 --> 00:19:22,746 I'm sorry, but you wasted your time 531 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,414 coming up all the way up here. 532 00:19:24,456 --> 00:19:26,708 Actually, I was hoping you could clarify 533 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:28,460 a few things for me, Mrs. Wylie. 534 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:31,880 If you're not clear, why are you prosecuting my husband? 535 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,799 At this point, we haven't made any formal decision. 536 00:19:34,841 --> 00:19:37,385 No, but you've made up your mind already, haven't you? 537 00:19:37,427 --> 00:19:40,764 He did meet with the man who shot at Judge Karlin. 538 00:19:40,805 --> 00:19:43,433 Believe what you want. 539 00:19:43,475 --> 00:19:48,271 My husand is an accountant, Ms. Carmichael, not a killer. 540 00:19:48,313 --> 00:19:51,441 We found the money, Mrs. Wylie. 541 00:19:51,483 --> 00:19:53,401 What money? 542 00:19:53,443 --> 00:19:56,279 The money from your daughter's college tuition. 543 00:19:56,321 --> 00:19:58,948 I also know about the trip to the Cayman's. 544 00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:01,493 First this Judge, and now you. 545 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:05,997 I thought people were supposed to be presumed innocent. 546 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,457 If you assisted your husband 547 00:20:07,499 --> 00:20:09,501 in procuring money to hire this man... 548 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,460 Are you threatening me? 549 00:20:10,502 --> 00:20:14,047 I think what I'm doing is offering you a chance 550 00:20:14,089 --> 00:20:16,508 to save what's left of your family. 551 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:20,011 That money was used to pay our legal fees. 552 00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:23,848 Now get the hell out of my house. 553 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,112 Please. You expect me to help you put away my own client? 554 00:20:37,153 --> 00:20:39,364 We could always subpoena your account records. 555 00:20:39,406 --> 00:20:41,366 And I can always refuse to comply. 556 00:20:41,408 --> 00:20:43,827 Somehow, I don't see you in prison stripes, Danielle. 557 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,496 Well, you're going to see me a lot more in pinstripes, Jack 558 00:20:46,538 --> 00:20:48,999 because as of yesterday, I represent Randall Wylie 559 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,333 in the attempted murder case. 560 00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:51,376 Here's my Notice of Appearance. 561 00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:53,837 That's a convenient way to shield yourself 562 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,130 from being called as a witness at his trial. 563 00:20:55,171 --> 00:20:58,383 There are ways around that, Danielle, if that's what this is. 564 00:20:58,425 --> 00:21:00,301 You wouldn't do that to me, would you, Jack? 565 00:21:00,343 --> 00:21:02,387 In a New York minute. 566 00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:09,477 The minute Karlin blocked a plea bargain, my trial fee kicked in. 567 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,521 Here's the deposit slip. 568 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,525 $100,000, cash. 569 00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:17,360 You took your money up front. 570 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:20,363 And I so wanted to sandbag you with it at trial. 571 00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:23,658 It's just too bad that Janice opened her big mouth. 572 00:21:27,662 --> 00:21:29,414 It's a good thing Melnick came clean. 573 00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:30,874 You'd have spent your summation 574 00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:32,500 wiping the shoe polish off your mouth. 575 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:36,546 Meanwhile, we have no proof Wylie actually paid Morris. 576 00:21:36,588 --> 00:21:38,381 It could've been c.o.d. 577 00:21:38,423 --> 00:21:41,593 His hit man trusted him more than his lawyer did. 578 00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:44,095 So, without connecting him to a payment 579 00:21:44,179 --> 00:21:45,847 do we even have a case? 580 00:21:45,889 --> 00:21:47,390 Wylie met with Morris face-to-face 581 00:21:47,432 --> 00:21:49,351 about a week before the murder attempt. 582 00:21:49,392 --> 00:21:52,228 I seriously doubt it was a conversation about tax advice. 583 00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:53,855 Why would a man like Randall Wylie 584 00:21:53,897 --> 00:21:55,357 stoop to something like this? 585 00:21:55,398 --> 00:21:57,275 'Cause he stole half a million dollars. 586 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,027 Well, there's a small difference 587 00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:00,945 between greed and murdering a judge. 588 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:02,030 Well, how about a judge 589 00:22:02,072 --> 00:22:04,324 who wouldn't cut him a deal and put him in jail? 590 00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,368 Frauds Bureau was ready to take a plea. 591 00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:07,911 Karlin put the kibosh on it. 592 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:09,871 One would think our people knew 593 00:22:09,913 --> 00:22:11,581 more about the case than she did. 594 00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:13,583 I've had a half-dozen cases with her. 595 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:15,585 She listens to our recommendations 596 00:22:15,627 --> 00:22:18,088 but she tends to make up her own mind. 597 00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:21,424 How did Wylie find Morris? 598 00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:22,467 It's hard to imagine 599 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,387 his firm has a murder-for-hire consultant. 600 00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:28,598 Maybe he started hanging out with the wrong element. 601 00:22:37,649 --> 00:22:40,402 Randall Wylie was remanded without bail 602 00:22:40,443 --> 00:22:42,362 by Judge Karlin on March 4. 603 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:45,407 Assigned C-17, Lower Tier 3. 604 00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:46,658 Is that a dorm or a cell? 605 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:48,493 That's a single inmate unit. 606 00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:49,911 He was on suicide watch. 607 00:22:49,953 --> 00:22:51,454 Did he make an attempt? 608 00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:52,706 Not that we know of. 609 00:22:52,747 --> 00:22:55,917 In this case, the suicide watch was requested by his own lawyer. 610 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:58,420 Did Wylie have contact with any other inmates? 611 00:22:58,461 --> 00:23:00,130 We have S.O.A.s patrolling the areas 612 00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,673 making sure nobody hangs up. 613 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:02,674 S.O.A.s? 614 00:23:02,716 --> 00:23:04,300 Suicide Observation Aides. 615 00:23:04,342 --> 00:23:06,010 Staff or inmates? 616 00:23:06,094 --> 00:23:08,638 Inmates. As long as they're not charged with murder. 617 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,683 To avoiding any conflict of interest. 618 00:23:11,725 --> 00:23:14,310 Who was on Wylie's tier? 619 00:23:16,187 --> 00:23:18,690 Randall was wound up pretty tight when he got here. 620 00:23:18,732 --> 00:23:20,108 Never been in jail before. 621 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,360 Did he ever talk about killing himself? 622 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:23,445 Seemed okay to me. 623 00:23:23,486 --> 00:23:27,157 They took his belt and shoelaces away, just in case 624 00:23:27,198 --> 00:23:29,034 and we pass by every five, ten minutes. 625 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:30,535 Did you spend any time with him? 626 00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,955 Yeah, we talked a little bit, mostly about his case. 627 00:23:33,997 --> 00:23:38,001 Did Wylie ever say anything about Judge Karlin? 628 00:23:41,713 --> 00:23:45,550 Oh, I probably shouldn't be talking to you guys. 629 00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:48,303 What's the problem, Mr. McGowan? 630 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:50,013 Nothing. 631 00:23:50,055 --> 00:23:53,141 You know, we can always notify the ADA who's prosecuting you 632 00:23:53,183 --> 00:23:55,310 that you're obstructing our investigation. 633 00:23:55,352 --> 00:23:58,688 They got their own set of rules in here, you know that. 634 00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,315 Honor among thieves. 635 00:24:00,357 --> 00:24:01,691 Don't snitch on nobody. 636 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,527 Unless it pays off. 637 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,198 You got do something for me? 638 00:24:08,239 --> 00:24:11,534 If you have something for us. 639 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:17,040 I'm looking at 25 years on an Arson Two rap. 640 00:24:17,082 --> 00:24:18,666 What exactly did you burn down? 641 00:24:18,708 --> 00:24:21,044 A store, and nobody got hurt. 642 00:24:21,086 --> 00:24:24,005 If you plead to C felony, we can try and get you minimum 643 00:24:24,047 --> 00:24:25,673 provided you're straight with us. 644 00:24:25,715 --> 00:24:27,258 And the D.A. prosecuting me 645 00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:28,760 he's going to go along with this? 646 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,720 Our case has priority. 647 00:24:33,556 --> 00:24:35,809 Then I guess we got a deal. 648 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:38,561 According to McGowan 649 00:24:38,603 --> 00:24:41,773 Wylie was in a rage about Judge Karlin from day one. 650 00:24:41,815 --> 00:24:44,693 He was obsessed about finding a way to get back at her 651 00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:47,529 for putting "someone like him" into that "hellhole." 652 00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:50,615 That's pretty tough talk from a CPA. 653 00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:53,493 He was looking down the teeth of a trial and a long sentence. 654 00:24:53,535 --> 00:24:56,496 He had nothing but bad choices. 655 00:24:56,538 --> 00:25:00,083 And his only way out was the ultimate in judge shopping. 656 00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:02,127 So you actually believed this McGowan? 657 00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:03,211 We found him, Nora. 658 00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:06,464 McGowan only corroborated what we already suspected. 659 00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:09,259 I'm sure you two cut him a pretty good deal. 660 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:11,553 It wasn't like our pool of potential witnesses 661 00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:13,596 was the Boys Tabernacle Choir. 662 00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:17,225 But we still can't connect him and Morris with a payment. 663 00:25:17,267 --> 00:25:20,437 Our forensic accountants have been all over the paperwork. 664 00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:21,354 So far, no luck. 665 00:25:21,396 --> 00:25:23,148 It's a pretty solid circumstantial case 666 00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:24,107 even without the money. 667 00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:26,776 So, some schlep goes to Rikers for a few months 668 00:25:26,818 --> 00:25:30,363 and we manage to turn him into a cold-blooded killer. 669 00:25:33,491 --> 00:25:35,910 Pick him up. 670 00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:40,206 Randall Wylie, we need you to come with us. 671 00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:41,624 Can't you see I'm with my wife? 672 00:25:41,666 --> 00:25:43,626 Stand up, Mr. Wylie. You're under arrest. 673 00:25:43,668 --> 00:25:45,170 Of course I'm under arrest. 674 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:46,546 What else would I be doing here? 675 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:49,132 Yeah, only this time it's for attempted murder. 676 00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:50,342 Randall, what's going on? 677 00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:52,093 I'm already in jail, for God's sake! 678 00:25:52,135 --> 00:25:53,303 Tell it to the judge. 679 00:25:56,765 --> 00:25:58,600 I knew I was right about Wylie. 680 00:25:58,641 --> 00:26:00,727 Right about him in what way, Judge? 681 00:26:00,769 --> 00:26:02,479 You sit on the bench long enough 682 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,316 you get a feel for guys like that. 683 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:08,652 He's a businessman with no priors. 684 00:26:08,693 --> 00:26:11,696 Are you saying you knew he was dangerous? 685 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:15,325 I thought you came here to prep me for the trial. 686 00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:16,159 I did. 687 00:26:16,201 --> 00:26:18,286 You're going to be cross- examined 688 00:26:18,286 --> 00:26:19,704 on the appearance of bias. 689 00:26:19,746 --> 00:26:21,289 And I'm sure you'll be able 690 00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:23,166 to lay that misconception to rest. 691 00:26:23,208 --> 00:26:24,209 They'll say 692 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:25,335 you threw Wylie in jail 693 00:26:25,377 --> 00:26:27,045 because of what his wife did. 694 00:26:27,087 --> 00:26:28,004 That was hardly bias. 695 00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:29,089 And when our office proposed 696 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:31,174 a plea bargain, you refused to go along with it. 697 00:26:31,216 --> 00:26:35,512 I wasn't satisfied your office was sending the right message 698 00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:37,305 to white collar defendants. 699 00:26:37,347 --> 00:26:39,182 Are you second-guessing me? 700 00:26:39,224 --> 00:26:42,060 The defense will paint all this as being draconian. 701 00:26:42,143 --> 00:26:43,228 Wylie was going to run. 702 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:44,187 I stopped him. 703 00:26:44,229 --> 00:26:48,066 Danielle Melnick made nice to some young ADA 704 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:49,859 who'll probably end up 705 00:26:49,901 --> 00:26:52,362 working at her law firm some day. 706 00:26:52,404 --> 00:26:55,198 Only you didn't propose any alternative. 707 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,200 The Constitution does that, Jack. 708 00:26:57,242 --> 00:26:58,493 It's called a trial. 709 00:27:03,581 --> 00:27:06,376 I've given you your motive evidence wrapped in a ribbon. 710 00:27:06,418 --> 00:27:08,545 And that's why we're calling you, Judge. 711 00:27:08,586 --> 00:27:11,089 Only, don't underestimate a jury's sympathy. 712 00:27:11,131 --> 00:27:11,881 I don't. 713 00:27:11,923 --> 00:27:16,386 That's why I prefer bench trials. 714 00:27:19,597 --> 00:27:21,307 Randall Wylie was before me 715 00:27:21,349 --> 00:27:23,101 on a fraud indictment. 716 00:27:23,143 --> 00:27:25,228 I was assigned to preside over all pre-trial proceedings 717 00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:26,104 then the trial. 718 00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:27,605 How much time was the defendant facing 719 00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:30,191 if convicted of all charges against him? 720 00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:31,860 There were three separate frauds 721 00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:34,529 for which he could be sentenced consecutively. 722 00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:36,323 45 years was the aggregate. 723 00:27:36,364 --> 00:27:38,450 I turn your attention to January 17. 724 00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:40,326 What if anything happened 725 00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:42,245 with regard to Mr. Wylie's case? 726 00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:43,413 The defense motion was 727 00:27:43,455 --> 00:27:44,414 on my calendar. 728 00:27:44,456 --> 00:27:46,291 When the case was called 729 00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:49,336 Ms. Benedict, the ADA from your Frauds Bureau 730 00:27:49,377 --> 00:27:51,337 told the court that Mrs. Wylie 731 00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:52,881 took a flight to the Cayman Islands 732 00:27:52,922 --> 00:27:54,257 and returned the same evening. 733 00:27:54,299 --> 00:27:56,718 What did you do upon learning this information? 734 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,262 Mrs. Wylie was in the courtroom that day 735 00:27:59,304 --> 00:28:01,139 so I asked her if it was true. 736 00:28:01,181 --> 00:28:02,432 What did she say? 737 00:28:02,474 --> 00:28:04,893 That it was none of my business. 738 00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:05,810 What happened next? 739 00:28:05,852 --> 00:28:08,146 I remanded the defendant as a flight risk. 740 00:28:08,188 --> 00:28:10,815 And what transpired in the courtroom? 741 00:28:10,857 --> 00:28:12,025 My court officers 742 00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:16,112 placed handcuffs on Mr. Wylie and led him into the pens. 743 00:28:16,154 --> 00:28:17,155 At that point 744 00:28:17,197 --> 00:28:18,740 Mrs. Wylie began throwing a tantrum. 745 00:28:18,782 --> 00:28:21,451 She said her husband didn't belong in Rikers Island 746 00:28:21,493 --> 00:28:22,285 that I was out to get him. 747 00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:25,622 Now, in the days preceding this incident 748 00:28:25,663 --> 00:28:30,335 did you take any other action with regard to Mr. Wylie's case? 749 00:28:30,377 --> 00:28:33,338 A plea bargain was brought to me. 750 00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,422 I rejected it. 751 00:28:34,464 --> 00:28:36,591 How much time was involved? 752 00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:37,550 Two years. 753 00:28:37,592 --> 00:28:39,803 Not the 45-year aggregate? 754 00:28:39,844 --> 00:28:41,262 Far from it. 755 00:28:41,304 --> 00:28:43,348 And when this plea bargain was refused 756 00:28:43,390 --> 00:28:45,141 how did Mr. Wylie react? 757 00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:52,190 He was incensed. 758 00:28:52,232 --> 00:28:54,359 Nothing further. 759 00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:59,197 What's your reputation on the bench, Judge Karlin? 760 00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:01,366 I like to think it's tough but fair. 761 00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:03,535 But, you routinely mete out prison sentences 762 00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:04,786 in the hundreds of years? 763 00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:06,413 I wouldn't say routinely. 764 00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:08,707 But, you do impose three-digit sentences 765 00:29:08,748 --> 00:29:10,834 when you know that the absolute maximum 766 00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:13,545 a defendant can serve for a non-capital case is 767 00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:15,213 50 years to life. Is that right? 768 00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:17,340 I do it to make a point. 769 00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:18,133 What's that? 770 00:29:18,174 --> 00:29:20,677 To enrage the people you sentence? 771 00:29:20,719 --> 00:29:23,805 That predators who are brought to justice in my courtroom 772 00:29:23,847 --> 00:29:24,848 will not be coddled. 773 00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:26,391 So I take it you've remanded 774 00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:29,561 hundreds of defendants the way you remanded Mr. Wylie? 775 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:31,521 Yes. 776 00:29:31,563 --> 00:29:33,356 And I'm sure that Mrs. Wylie is 777 00:29:33,398 --> 00:29:35,442 not the first relative of a defendant 778 00:29:35,483 --> 00:29:36,901 to express disapproval with you? 779 00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:37,902 Most people behave 780 00:29:37,944 --> 00:29:38,862 in my courtroom. 781 00:29:38,903 --> 00:29:39,696 Why is that? 782 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:42,699 Because they're scared to death of you? 783 00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,827 A healthy respect for authority goes a long way, Ms. Melnick 784 00:29:45,869 --> 00:29:47,328 especially these days. 785 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:51,541 Judge, I'd like you to take a look 786 00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:54,544 at Defense Exhibit Four. 787 00:29:54,586 --> 00:29:57,672 Is this your likeness on a glassine envelope 788 00:29:57,714 --> 00:29:58,506 used to package heroin 789 00:29:58,548 --> 00:30:00,884 with the brand name "Judge Dread?" 790 00:30:00,925 --> 00:30:02,719 I've seen this before. 791 00:30:02,761 --> 00:30:03,553 I don't like it 792 00:30:03,595 --> 00:30:06,973 but I'm not sure it's such a bad thing. 793 00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:09,768 At least the dealers will know what's in store for them 794 00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:12,771 when they're caught selling this poison to our children. 795 00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:14,856 Before you were appointed to the bench 796 00:30:14,898 --> 00:30:16,900 you prosecuted thousands of defendants 797 00:30:16,941 --> 00:30:17,776 as an Assistant D.A. 798 00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:18,902 is that right? 799 00:30:18,943 --> 00:30:19,986 Yes. 800 00:30:20,028 --> 00:30:22,947 And you probably sent an equal number of defendants 801 00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:23,865 to state prison 802 00:30:23,907 --> 00:30:25,867 as a Supreme Court judge, am I right? 803 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:26,951 Close to it, yes. 804 00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:28,787 So would it be fair to say 805 00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:30,789 that you were hated by virtually everyone 806 00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:32,040 over whom you've presided? 807 00:30:32,082 --> 00:30:33,958 Objection. 808 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,919 No. I want to answer that. 809 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,921 This isn't a popularity contest. 810 00:30:37,962 --> 00:30:41,383 If these defendants like me, Ms. Melnick 811 00:30:41,424 --> 00:30:44,803 I wouldn't be doing my job. 812 00:30:44,844 --> 00:30:46,596 Right. 813 00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:57,982 I met Randall Wylie his first night at Rikers. 814 00:30:58,024 --> 00:30:59,401 I was on duty on his tier 815 00:30:59,442 --> 00:31:00,944 as a Suicide Observation Aide. 816 00:31:00,986 --> 00:31:02,612 Was he suicidal? 817 00:31:02,654 --> 00:31:03,697 He was mad. 818 00:31:03,738 --> 00:31:04,781 Mad at whom? 819 00:31:04,823 --> 00:31:06,783 The judge who put him in there. 820 00:31:06,825 --> 00:31:10,453 What specifically did he say? 821 00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:12,288 Well, at first he was just trash-talking 822 00:31:12,330 --> 00:31:13,790 about how, you know, she was trying 823 00:31:13,832 --> 00:31:14,791 to screw him over. 824 00:31:14,833 --> 00:31:15,792 And then? 825 00:31:15,834 --> 00:31:17,752 And then after a while he started talking 826 00:31:17,794 --> 00:31:19,337 about how he was going to take her out. 827 00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:21,506 Killing her? 828 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:26,970 Yeah. 829 00:31:27,011 --> 00:31:29,556 When exactly did this happen? 830 00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:31,933 I remember one day he said that 831 00:31:31,975 --> 00:31:33,601 he was, uh, he was getting out 832 00:31:33,643 --> 00:31:35,687 and I probably wouldn't see him again. 833 00:31:35,729 --> 00:31:38,690 Anyway, later that night he was right back on the Rock. 834 00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:41,818 But, that's when he started talking about it seriously. 835 00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:42,694 What do you mean? 836 00:31:42,736 --> 00:31:44,654 Well, he said nobody could screw him 837 00:31:44,696 --> 00:31:45,655 and get away with it 838 00:31:45,697 --> 00:31:48,658 and he was going to find someone on the outside 839 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,870 who would take care of the situation once and for all. 840 00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:53,997 Did you have any further conversations with him 841 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,081 of this nature? 842 00:31:55,123 --> 00:31:57,500 I remember about a week before the judge was shot at 843 00:31:57,542 --> 00:31:59,627 I came by, Randall was downstairs for a visit. 844 00:31:59,669 --> 00:32:01,046 Later I asked him if it was his wife. 845 00:32:01,087 --> 00:32:02,464 And he said it was someone 846 00:32:02,505 --> 00:32:04,883 he was doing business with. 847 00:32:06,551 --> 00:32:08,386 Nothing further. 848 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:11,890 Let's see, Mr. McGowan. 849 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:15,060 You were previously convicted of Grand Larceny? 850 00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:15,894 Yeah. 851 00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:19,355 And then you set a fire in a store? 852 00:32:19,397 --> 00:32:22,067 I plead guilty to that, yeah. 853 00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:25,904 Well, did you do it, Mr. McGowan? 854 00:32:25,945 --> 00:32:27,155 Yes, I did. 855 00:32:27,197 --> 00:32:28,365 Why? 856 00:32:28,406 --> 00:32:32,035 Was it an accident? 857 00:32:32,077 --> 00:32:34,996 I had a problem with somebody who worked there. 858 00:32:35,038 --> 00:32:38,166 I made a mistake and I'm serving my time for it. 859 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:39,626 Well, you made a deal 860 00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,003 for the minimal allowable sentence 861 00:32:42,045 --> 00:32:44,089 in exchange for this testimony, right? 862 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:45,090 Pretty much. 863 00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:46,716 And you testified 864 00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:48,051 that you spoke with Mr. Wylie 865 00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:49,761 on several occasions about Judge Karlin? 866 00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:50,762 Yes, I did. 867 00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:52,389 Did you also speak 868 00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:54,057 to my client on other occasions 869 00:32:54,099 --> 00:32:56,101 when Judge Karlin's name did not come up? 870 00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:57,102 Sure. 871 00:32:57,143 --> 00:32:58,728 So would it be fair to say that 872 00:32:58,770 --> 00:33:01,398 over the course of several months you developed 873 00:33:01,439 --> 00:33:03,024 a personal relationship with Mr. Wylie? 874 00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:05,944 Yeah, I guess you could say that. 875 00:33:05,986 --> 00:33:08,071 Right. You befriended him 876 00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:11,574 because, why, you're just a hell of a nice guy? 877 00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:12,701 Objection. 878 00:33:12,742 --> 00:33:14,786 Sustained. 879 00:33:14,828 --> 00:33:15,954 Nothing further. 880 00:33:23,211 --> 00:33:26,464 When Judge Karlin remanded me that day, I was stunned. 881 00:33:26,506 --> 00:33:28,967 I couldn't believe she would put me in jail 882 00:33:29,009 --> 00:33:30,427 for something my wife did. 883 00:33:30,468 --> 00:33:31,428 What happened 884 00:33:31,469 --> 00:33:32,762 when you got to Rikers? 885 00:33:32,804 --> 00:33:34,431 Well, even before I got there 886 00:33:34,472 --> 00:33:35,390 something happened. 887 00:33:35,432 --> 00:33:38,601 This inmate on the bus punched me in the face 888 00:33:38,643 --> 00:33:40,895 and made me give him my wristwatch. 889 00:33:40,937 --> 00:33:44,649 So what was your emotional condition when you arrived? 890 00:33:44,691 --> 00:33:46,818 Scared out of my mind. 891 00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:49,904 It was the worst day of my life. 892 00:33:49,946 --> 00:33:50,780 Mr. Wylie 893 00:33:50,822 --> 00:33:54,117 When did you first meet Jimmy McGowan? 894 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,786 I think it was the next day. 895 00:33:56,828 --> 00:33:59,622 He asked me what a guy like me was doing there 896 00:33:59,664 --> 00:34:02,876 and basically, I told him what happened with Judge Karlin. 897 00:34:02,917 --> 00:34:04,544 And were you angry about that? 898 00:34:04,586 --> 00:34:05,462 Of course. 899 00:34:05,503 --> 00:34:07,756 So what did Mr. McGowan say? 900 00:34:07,797 --> 00:34:09,507 Jimmy seemed to know 901 00:34:09,549 --> 00:34:10,967 all about Judge Karlin. 902 00:34:11,009 --> 00:34:12,510 A lot more than I did. 903 00:34:12,552 --> 00:34:14,637 He told me these stories 904 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,598 that scared the hell out of me. 905 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,516 What kind of stories, Mr. Wylie? 906 00:34:18,558 --> 00:34:22,103 About how she put away guys for hundreds of years 907 00:34:22,145 --> 00:34:24,522 for selling a few bags of coke 908 00:34:24,564 --> 00:34:26,650 that in her eyes, you were guilty 909 00:34:26,691 --> 00:34:28,985 before you were proven innocent 910 00:34:29,027 --> 00:34:32,197 and if the prosecutor couldn't make a case 911 00:34:32,238 --> 00:34:34,115 she would do it for them. 912 00:34:34,157 --> 00:34:35,075 How many times 913 00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:38,536 did Mr. McGowan talk to you about Judge Karlin? 914 00:34:38,578 --> 00:34:42,540 Just about every time he had the chance. 915 00:34:42,582 --> 00:34:44,626 He said that if I didn't figure out some way 916 00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:47,212 to get out from under her, my case was hopeless. 917 00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:52,175 She'd send me upstate and my wife would divorce me. 918 00:34:52,217 --> 00:34:55,011 I'd never see my kids again. 919 00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:59,182 So what happened next? 920 00:34:59,224 --> 00:35:01,559 Jimmy offered to help. 921 00:35:01,601 --> 00:35:03,144 Really? 922 00:35:03,186 --> 00:35:04,521 What was his offer? 923 00:35:04,562 --> 00:35:07,899 He said he can put me in touch 924 00:35:07,941 --> 00:35:09,567 with someone who could take care 925 00:35:09,609 --> 00:35:10,902 of the situation for me. 926 00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:12,529 I asked him what he meant. 927 00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:14,239 He said, "What do you think I mean?" 928 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,242 And what did you think he meant, Mr. Wylie? 929 00:35:17,283 --> 00:35:20,578 A professional killer. 930 00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:24,249 What happened next? 931 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:28,086 Well, he mentioned this three or four times 932 00:35:28,128 --> 00:35:29,337 and I would say "No, no." 933 00:35:29,379 --> 00:35:30,922 And then one day out of the blue 934 00:35:30,964 --> 00:35:33,550 he said there was a guy coming to the visiting room 935 00:35:33,591 --> 00:35:34,467 to meet me. 936 00:35:34,509 --> 00:35:36,678 I should at least hear what he had to say. 937 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,595 So you actually had 938 00:35:37,637 --> 00:35:40,140 a face-to-face meeting with Frank Morris? 939 00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:41,224 I know how it sounds 940 00:35:41,266 --> 00:35:42,934 but I just needed to get Jimmy 941 00:35:42,976 --> 00:35:45,228 off my back. 942 00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:47,856 So I went down for the meeting. 943 00:35:47,897 --> 00:35:49,274 Where Frank Morris was waiting for you? 944 00:35:49,315 --> 00:35:50,150 And I started to tell him 945 00:35:50,191 --> 00:35:52,277 that I didn't want to go through with it. 946 00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:58,241 And then he mentioned that he knew where my house was 947 00:35:58,283 --> 00:36:01,036 where my kids went to school. 948 00:36:01,077 --> 00:36:03,121 So what did you do? 949 00:36:03,163 --> 00:36:05,248 I went back to my cell 950 00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:07,751 and I thought to myself 951 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:10,587 "This is absolutely insane. 952 00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:15,925 I can't believe I got myself involved with these people." 953 00:36:15,967 --> 00:36:19,637 So the next time I saw Jimmy I told him 954 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,182 that I was just going to take my chances with Judge Karlin. 955 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:26,811 And how did Mr. McGowan react? 956 00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:31,191 He said, "Hey, it's your life going down the drain." 957 00:36:31,232 --> 00:36:34,069 And that was the last time we talked about it. 958 00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:37,947 About a week later I found out what happened. 959 00:36:37,989 --> 00:36:39,282 I couldn't believe it. 960 00:36:39,324 --> 00:36:43,161 Mr. Wylie, did you ever hire Frank Morris 961 00:36:43,203 --> 00:36:45,288 to kill Judge Karlin? 962 00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:46,081 Absolutely not. 963 00:36:46,122 --> 00:36:46,956 Did you ever pay him 964 00:36:46,998 --> 00:36:49,959 or anyone else any money to do that? 965 00:36:50,001 --> 00:36:51,961 Not a cent. 966 00:36:52,003 --> 00:36:53,463 Thank you. 967 00:37:04,182 --> 00:37:05,684 Did we get duped? 968 00:37:05,725 --> 00:37:07,310 Either that or Wylie gave 969 00:37:07,352 --> 00:37:08,812 an award-winning performance. 970 00:37:08,853 --> 00:37:09,604 Jack? 971 00:37:09,646 --> 00:37:12,357 Hard to say. But Wylie's a scam artist. 972 00:37:12,399 --> 00:37:14,985 That's why they threw him in prison in the first place. 973 00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:15,902 He was in jail 974 00:37:15,944 --> 00:37:18,029 because Judge Karlin threw him in there. 975 00:37:18,071 --> 00:37:19,989 We throw people in jail every day. 976 00:37:20,031 --> 00:37:21,825 How many of them end up discussing payback 977 00:37:21,866 --> 00:37:23,076 with a hired killer? 978 00:37:23,118 --> 00:37:26,830 Only if McGowan were a cop, they'd be arguing entrapment 979 00:37:26,871 --> 00:37:28,998 that Wylie was induced to commit a crime 980 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,668 he never would have committed otherwise. 981 00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:33,336 He'd probably walk away from this. 982 00:37:33,378 --> 00:37:34,921 Only McGowan wasn't a cop. 983 00:37:34,963 --> 00:37:36,881 No. I know exactly who he was. 984 00:37:36,923 --> 00:37:39,175 He was an arsonist who got the minimum. 985 00:37:39,217 --> 00:37:40,844 It'd mean he planned 986 00:37:40,885 --> 00:37:41,886 this from the start. 987 00:37:41,928 --> 00:37:43,930 That he knew we were going to come looking for him. 988 00:37:43,972 --> 00:37:47,308 He set himself up to be a hero. 989 00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:49,185 Who's playing us, Nora? 990 00:37:49,227 --> 00:37:53,398 A guy who sets fires or a guy who mined the loopholes 991 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,025 in the Security Act of 1934? 992 00:37:55,066 --> 00:37:56,860 We bet on the wrong horse, that's all. 993 00:37:56,901 --> 00:37:57,861 Desperate people 994 00:37:57,902 --> 00:37:58,778 do desperate things. 995 00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,947 It doesn't matter what company they keep. 996 00:38:00,989 --> 00:38:03,074 Why do you always believe the worst in people? 997 00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:03,825 Who, me? 998 00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:06,161 Spend a few more years in this place 999 00:38:06,202 --> 00:38:08,246 you'll be right there with us. 1000 00:38:08,288 --> 00:38:10,248 I like to think I can do this job 1001 00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:11,916 without becoming a cynic. 1002 00:38:11,958 --> 00:38:13,084 I'm not a cynic. 1003 00:38:13,126 --> 00:38:17,047 I get up every morning hoping to find an honest man. 1004 00:38:17,088 --> 00:38:18,465 Then let's make sure 1005 00:38:18,506 --> 00:38:20,175 the punishment fits the crime. 1006 00:38:20,216 --> 00:38:21,885 If McGowan got three to six 1007 00:38:21,926 --> 00:38:25,013 and there's the least chance he pushed Wylie into this 1008 00:38:25,055 --> 00:38:26,765 then Wylie shouldn't do 25 to life. 1009 00:38:26,806 --> 00:38:29,225 You're the boss. 1010 00:38:37,192 --> 00:38:39,069 Asking to meet with the defendant 1011 00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,446 the night before you cross-examine him... 1012 00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:43,531 this is a first even for you, Jack. 1013 00:38:43,573 --> 00:38:46,743 We have an offer. 1014 00:38:46,785 --> 00:38:50,455 Like I said, this is a first. 1015 00:38:50,497 --> 00:38:52,123 What is it? 1016 00:38:52,207 --> 00:38:55,168 121/////2 to 25. 1017 00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:56,378 Y-years? 1018 00:38:56,419 --> 00:39:01,174 You tried to kill a judge. 1019 00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:04,928 Don't you understand how it happened? 1020 00:39:04,969 --> 00:39:08,056 We heard what you tried to sell to the jury. 1021 00:39:08,098 --> 00:39:10,100 After everything McGowan 1022 00:39:10,141 --> 00:39:12,477 supposedly said to you, there's no way 1023 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,938 you expected him to call it off. 1024 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:17,315 Whatever pressures you were under, Mr. Wylie 1025 00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:19,109 they don't excuse your actions. 1026 00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:22,278 I'm assuming we have blanket immunity in here? 1027 00:39:24,155 --> 00:39:26,908 Queen for a day. 1028 00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:29,536 Go ahead. 1029 00:39:30,954 --> 00:39:32,122 They were threatening me. 1030 00:39:32,163 --> 00:39:35,000 I didn't know what else to do. 1031 00:39:35,041 --> 00:39:38,086 How about reporting it to the authorities? 1032 00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:41,005 The authorities can't protect you in here. 1033 00:39:41,047 --> 00:39:42,507 You could have told someone 1034 00:39:42,590 --> 00:39:44,009 you had a change of heart. 1035 00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:45,468 Or you could have tried to stop it. 1036 00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:48,847 I was scared. 1037 00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:50,974 Too scared to tell your own lawyer? 1038 00:39:58,356 --> 00:39:59,983 If he testifies 1039 00:40:00,025 --> 00:40:01,943 he told you, Danielle 1040 00:40:01,985 --> 00:40:05,030 we'll call you to corroborate it. 1041 00:40:05,071 --> 00:40:08,199 You made no effort to openly repudiate the crime, Mr. Wylie. 1042 00:40:08,283 --> 00:40:10,660 The law's clear on renunciation. 1043 00:40:10,702 --> 00:40:12,454 You can't make it out. 1044 00:40:12,495 --> 00:40:14,914 I think my lawyer's doing pretty well. 1045 00:40:14,956 --> 00:40:17,208 All she's done is create some sympathy. 1046 00:40:17,292 --> 00:40:18,501 Once I cross-examine you 1047 00:40:18,543 --> 00:40:23,256 the jury won't have much of it left. 1048 00:40:26,051 --> 00:40:30,513 You'll spend the rest of your life in prison. 1049 00:40:33,391 --> 00:40:37,562 If you're so confident, Jack, why the offer? 1050 00:40:37,604 --> 00:40:42,067 In our minds there's a sliver of doubt 1051 00:40:42,108 --> 00:40:44,986 that if Jimmy McGowan hadn't been assigned 1052 00:40:45,028 --> 00:40:51,409 to your client's tier, we wouldn't be here today. 1053 00:40:51,451 --> 00:40:52,494 You made some 1054 00:40:52,535 --> 00:40:55,413 foolish decisions, Mr. Wylie. 1055 00:40:55,497 --> 00:40:57,540 Don't make another one. 1056 00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,255 I heard you're cutting a deal with Wylie. 1057 00:41:04,297 --> 00:41:05,632 That's right. 1058 00:41:05,673 --> 00:41:07,926 What's he getting? 1059 00:41:07,967 --> 00:41:09,177 121/////2 to 25. 1060 00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:10,261 That's outrageous. 1061 00:41:10,303 --> 00:41:13,390 I have given out more time for narcotics possession. 1062 00:41:13,431 --> 00:41:16,518 That's well known. 1063 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:18,895 When Wylie took a shot at me 1064 00:41:18,937 --> 00:41:22,565 he took a shot at every judge in the courthouse. 1065 00:41:22,607 --> 00:41:24,526 He'll be coming after prosecutors next. 1066 00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,236 No matter how much time Wylie gets 1067 00:41:26,277 --> 00:41:28,488 I don't think it's going to deter the next maniac 1068 00:41:28,530 --> 00:41:30,407 and I also don't think it's appropriate 1069 00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:32,909 for you to be here putting in your two cents. 1070 00:41:32,951 --> 00:41:34,411 I am the victim in this case. 1071 00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:35,954 I should have been consulted. 1072 00:41:36,037 --> 00:41:36,955 Your feelings 1073 00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:39,040 toward this defendant have been duly noted. 1074 00:41:39,082 --> 00:41:42,210 Are you questioning my impartiality, Nora? 1075 00:41:42,252 --> 00:41:44,921 Everyone here respects your courage 1076 00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:47,966 all the sacrifices that you and your family have made. 1077 00:41:48,007 --> 00:41:50,301 We just come from two different places. 1078 00:41:50,343 --> 00:41:52,220 I try to enforce the law. 1079 00:41:52,262 --> 00:41:54,139 You try to compromise it. 1080 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,307 It's called prosecutorial discretion. 1081 00:41:56,349 --> 00:41:57,475 So you make a bargain 1082 00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,310 with Jimmy McGowan, then it backfires 1083 00:41:59,394 --> 00:42:01,271 and you have to cut a deal with Wylie? 1084 00:42:01,313 --> 00:42:03,606 I'm not happy about McGowan. 1085 00:42:03,648 --> 00:42:06,985 But any judge who reflexively imposes 1086 00:42:07,027 --> 00:42:09,195 the maximum in every case 1087 00:42:09,237 --> 00:42:13,033 just forces the hard decisions on the rest of us. 1088 00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:14,451 I changed this city! 1089 00:42:14,492 --> 00:42:16,161 In case you hadn't noticed it 1090 00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:18,163 you can walk down the streets these days 1091 00:42:18,204 --> 00:42:20,623 without having to kick a crack vial out of your way 1092 00:42:20,665 --> 00:42:22,709 to the sound of gunfire in the background! 1093 00:42:22,751 --> 00:42:25,253 It'll make a great sound bite one day. 1094 00:42:25,295 --> 00:42:28,173 I'm still not changing my decision about Wylie. 1095 00:42:28,256 --> 00:42:29,340 Do whatever you want. 1096 00:42:29,382 --> 00:42:32,510 I still have him in front of me on securities fraud. 1097 00:42:32,552 --> 00:42:35,972 That indictment was covered by the plea bargain. 1098 00:42:36,014 --> 00:42:39,768 How can you possibly think that's appropriate?! 1099 00:42:39,809 --> 00:42:42,145 It's my job. 1100 00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:45,523 Until someone else is sitting in this chair 1101 00:42:45,565 --> 00:42:49,152 I'll continue to do what I think is right. 1102 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:02,540 Judge Karlin called. 1103 00:43:02,582 --> 00:43:05,502 She wants to make a victim impact statement 1104 00:43:05,543 --> 00:43:07,379 at Wylie's sentencing. 1105 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:09,381 That's her right. 1106 00:43:09,422 --> 00:43:12,217 So all things being equal 1107 00:43:12,258 --> 00:43:13,176 is Wylie a killer? 1108 00:43:13,218 --> 00:43:14,552 It's a tough question. 1109 00:43:14,636 --> 00:43:16,012 Does the man make Rikers 1110 00:43:16,054 --> 00:43:17,681 or does Rikers make the man? 1111 00:43:17,722 --> 00:43:19,182 I think Judge Karlin 1112 00:43:19,224 --> 00:43:21,059 had something to do with it. 1113 00:43:21,142 --> 00:43:22,060 Funny thing is 1114 00:43:22,143 --> 00:43:23,561 Wylie got away from her. 1115 00:43:23,603 --> 00:43:26,272 It's what he's been trying to do all along. 1116 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:53,550 [Captioning sponsored by STUDIOS USA TELEVISION 1117 00:43:53,591 --> 00:43:57,554 and NBC 1118 00:43:57,595 --> 00:44:01,641 Captioned by The Caption Center WGBH Educational Foundation] 81203

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