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the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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What's it today, Judge?
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Muder? Rape?
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Possession with intent.
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13 pounds of heroin.
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Hoo!
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What's that get you?
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A lethal injection.
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I have a lunch today
at 1:00, Rodney.
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You got it, Judge.
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That son of a bitch.
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Are you all right, Rodney?
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I got winged.
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Get this man
medical attention.
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Right away.
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Central, we need an A.M.S.,
one man down...
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Judge, you better
get inside.
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Detective Hill
got out of his car
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this guy runs right
at the Judge, shooting.
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Was Hill's the one
who got him?
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Yeah, he took
one himself.
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Really? How bad?
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Paramedic said
he'll be fine.
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Damn, talk about
smoking guns.
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No wallet, no I.D. on him.
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And where's the Judge?
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Court officers
took her inside.
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Who is she?
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Uh, Judge Linda Karlin.
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Thanks.
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Karlin's the one
that put away
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most of the Washington
Heights Cowboys
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a few years back.
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Now, who'd want
to see her dead?
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Hey, how's the arm?
Not bad.
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You did a good
job back there.
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I don't know.
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I think I let my
guard down a little.
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I've been on her
six months--
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nothing's
ever happened.
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Hey, don't sweat it.
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You saved her life.
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You ever see
the shooter before?
Never.
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How long's Karlin been getting
this door-to-door service?
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Three years-- I pick her up,
take her to work
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hand her off
to the court officers.
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Most judges
take the subway.
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Not Karlin.
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She's got someone on her 24-7
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on account of her reputation
as a high-profile hard-ass.
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Where is she now?
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Knowing her?
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On the bench.
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If I don't go
right back to work
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these people will think
they can intimidate me.
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Well, still,
you might try
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taking a few extra
precautions, Judge.
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We can get you a vest.
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The man's dead,
isn't he,
detectives?
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He might not
have been working alone.
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Yes, well, a lot
of dangerous people
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pass through
my courtroom.
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Well, you recognize
this one?
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He's about 200 pounds,
six-three.
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No, I don't
recognize him.
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What about
your calendar,
Judge?
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Any gang members,
any organized
crime cases?
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Nothing out of the ordinary.
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Look, these people
don't like me
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and I don't like them.
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Okay, how
about somebody
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other than these people.
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Say, a defense attorney
you pissed off?
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Just about every
defense attorney
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who walks out
of my courtroom
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is angry about something.
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You're not giving us
much to go on, Judge.
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I've been on the bench
for 14 years.
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I was an Assistant D.A.
before that.
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I've made a lot of enemies.
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We got no print matches
for our shooter in the system.
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Any luck with the gun?
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Serial number's gone
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but ballistics said
they might be able
to recover it.
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A run-and-shoot
with a defaced .38?
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Sounds pretty low-tech.
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Hey, if it was
one of the perps
on her case load
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his prints would
have popped.
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Well, if we don't know the who,
how about the why?
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Maybe somebody
was doing a friend a favor.
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I mean, in some circles
knocking her off
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would be like
doing community
service.
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You sound like
she deserved it.
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No, I'm just saying
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this woman racks up
years on people
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like Tiger
racks up tournaments.
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Well, before
we go culling
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through 10,000 case files
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let's rule out
the usual suspects.
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I begged my wife
to at least take the day off
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but that's Linda.
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How long you two
been married?
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22 years.
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We met at a fund-raiser
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when she was in
the D.A.'s office.
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Our first conversation
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was a heated debate
over the death penalty.
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Sounds romantic.
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Let me guess--
she was pro,
you were con.
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My wife's a woman
of strong convictions.
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Can you think of anybody
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who might want to hurt
your wife, Mr. Karlin?
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Besides the criminals
she prosecutes?
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Any financial problems?
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I wish we'd sold
our tech portfolio
a year ago.
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You and me both.
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Has your wife received
any threats recently?
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Linda doesn't like to bring
that part of the job home.
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It's all handled
at the courthouse.
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Well, the Karlins'
private life sounds
like a snooze.
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Let's go check out some
of these death threats.
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Needle in a haystack time.
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Threats against judges
are tough to investigate.
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Most aren't serious anyway.
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Karlin ever
get any threats?
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She's our best customer.
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We need to see
what you got.
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I was expecting you.
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Anything recent?
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I found this,
just last Tuesday.
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"Karlin, you
stank-ass bitch.
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I'm going to make you
lick my Mac-10."
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I take it
the motion was denied?
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We found that
on the bench
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in one of the bullpens
on the 12th floor.
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How many guys went
through that lockup
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the day you found it?
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I'm not sure.
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Cell capacity's
about 100.
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I can get you a list.
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You ever pursue it?
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Even if we found this guy
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it's probably protected
by the First Amendment.
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There's nothing
we could prosecute on.
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There is now.
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Court's in recess.
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Judge Karlin's
not back till 2:15.
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Actually, we need
to speak to you.
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Any of these guys have
a case here last Tuesday?
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I wouldn't
recognize
the names.
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Tuesday's the judge's
calendar day.
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You got a copy
of the calendar?
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Hey, this isn't
Yankee Stadium, eh?
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Hats off!
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Yeah, right here.
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Thanks.
Is there any way
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somebody could smuggle
a weapon in here?
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I have two guys
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hand-scanning everyone
who walks through here
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and that's after
they go through
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the metal detector
downstairs.
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Is it standard procedure?
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Standard for Judge Karlin.
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We got a match.
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Evan Bruce.
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Kidnap Two.
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I remember that case.
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It was an a.m. call.
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We brought the guy in
from the Tombs next door.
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We're looking
for an inmate.
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Right place--
you got a name?
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Evan Bruce.
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Forget to read
him his rights?
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No, we're here
to collect on his pledge
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to the Police
Athletic League.
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Evan Bruce.
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Checked in
in September.
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Any problems?
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Problems?
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Yeah, you know,
disciplinary
infractions?
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Nothing.
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How about
psych workups?
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That information's confidential.
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I wouldn't have access.
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Well, we need
to talk to him.
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Too late.
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He was released three days ago.
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Why I got to
come down here?
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You realize threatening
a judge is a felony?
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I ain't threatened no judge.
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That's crazy, man.
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More like stupid.
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Somebody sent Judge Karlin
this little love letter.
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Whoever wrote it
called her a stank-ass bitch.
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Wasn't me.
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We want you
to write it for us.
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Write it:
"stank-ass bitch."
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Look, Lennie.
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He misspelled bitch.
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Again.
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All right, look.
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I was just letting go
of my anger
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for being
in there so long.
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Is that what you call
taking three shots at a judge?
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Is this guy a friend of yours?
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Hey, does he look
like a friend on mine?
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We don't know
who you keep
company with.
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Look, half the people that
walked out of that courtroom
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wanted that bitch...
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I mean, that
judge dead.
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Yeah, but
most of them
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didn't write her
a threatening note.
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Why I'm gonna kill her?
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My lawyer beat the case
on a speedy trial motion.
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Ain't nothing
she can do to me now.
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Well, maybe you'd better
hang on to that lawyer
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'cause we're going to send this
to the D.A.
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and see
if they want to prosecute.
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Just got this
from ballistics.
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They recovered
the serial number
from the gun.
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It traced to
the Lodi, New Jersey
Police Department.
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So, what brings you to Lodi,
Detectives?
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We're investigating
an attempted murder
in Manhattan.
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You know this guy?
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Mmm. You said attempted murder.
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Yeah, he was killed
in a shoot-out with the NYPD.
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His .38 traced
to your department.
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Oh, we don't use
.38's anymore.
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We went to nine millimeter
automatics two years ago.
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So did most of us.
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Could it be that
one of your guys
kept one as a backup?
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Eh, we traded them all in
to knock the price down
on our new weapons.
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You mean there are
police-issue guns
on the street?
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This is a small
department
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with a tight budget.
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We can't afford
to melt them down.
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This gun was used
to shoot at a judge.
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Look, if a dealer
sold the gun legally
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it should show up
on the state's database.
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Excuse me.
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You Vince Ellis?
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Far as I know.
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We got your name
off the State
Handgun Registry.
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You bought a .38
about a year ago?
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Yeah, but I ain't got it
no more.
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It was stolen.
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When was that?
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Noticed it missing
about two weeks ago.
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You report it
to the police?
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Didn't get around to it yet.
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You heard about this
judge that got shot
at in the city?
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The one where the
shooter got killed?
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What about it?
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We found your gun
in the shooter's hand.
261
00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:50,256
Uh...
262
00:09:50,298 --> 00:09:52,175
Who is it?
263
00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:55,220
You know, we could
charge you
264
00:09:55,261 --> 00:09:57,514
right now, as an accomplice,
Mr. Ellis.
265
00:09:57,555 --> 00:10:01,851
It's my nephew, Frankie.
266
00:10:01,893 --> 00:10:03,937
Frank Morris.
267
00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:05,188
Where does he live?
268
00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:06,981
Over in Paterson.
269
00:10:07,023 --> 00:10:09,985
He was in here
a few nights last week.
270
00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:11,403
Asked if he could
use my .38.
271
00:10:11,444 --> 00:10:12,404
And you let him.
272
00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:13,363
Said he'd
give me $200
273
00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:15,323
just to borrow it,
I told him, "No way."
274
00:10:15,365 --> 00:10:16,908
Next night,
I come in and it's gone.
275
00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:20,537
That's a pretty convenient
explanation.
276
00:10:20,578 --> 00:10:22,038
It's the truth!
Look, $200?
277
00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,082
I knew something real bad
was going down.
278
00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:26,418
I ain't risking my place here
for that kind of money.
279
00:10:26,501 --> 00:10:28,211
So why'd you file down
the serial number?
280
00:10:28,253 --> 00:10:29,421
I didn't.
281
00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,131
Frankie must have done it
282
00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,383
so's it couldn't get back to me.
283
00:10:33,425 --> 00:10:35,677
He couldn't even get that right.
284
00:10:35,719 --> 00:10:39,597
So where's this in Paterson?
285
00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,474
How long are you guys
going to be here?
286
00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:42,392
Couple more hours.
287
00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,019
Then who's going to
move out his stuff?
288
00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:45,895
We'll get back to you
on that.
289
00:10:45,937 --> 00:10:48,940
Well, if Morris got paid,
it isn't here.
290
00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,066
Got some nice
magazines.
291
00:10:50,108 --> 00:10:51,943
Hot Lace.
Rough and Ready.
292
00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:54,070
Are you going
to need those?
293
00:10:57,282 --> 00:10:59,075
Hey, here's a driver's license
294
00:10:59,117 --> 00:11:02,078
with the name
"John Sheppard" on it.
295
00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,039
And Morris's picture.
296
00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,041
Standard issue
for a swindler that old.
297
00:11:06,082 --> 00:11:07,459
Hey, did Morris
have a car?
298
00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,961
Uh, yeah.
The Camaro out front.
299
00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:12,130
It's worth a look.
300
00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,049
We're not breaking any laws
here, are we, Detective?
301
00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:15,258
Hey, the guy's dead.
302
00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:18,136
It's not like he's
going to be filing
a suppression motion.
303
00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,472
These '85s are a little tougher
than the '86s.
304
00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,640
Anything before '82's cake.
305
00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:24,059
Got it.
306
00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,561
Could have used one of
these on prom night.
307
00:11:26,603 --> 00:11:28,772
Ed, you want to
pop the trunk?
308
00:11:34,277 --> 00:11:35,403
Nothing back here, Ed.
309
00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:38,490
We got nothing here, either.
310
00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:40,283
So what do you
want to do with it?
311
00:11:40,325 --> 00:11:41,451
Can you tow it?
312
00:11:41,493 --> 00:11:43,078
Sure. What was
the owner's name?
313
00:11:43,119 --> 00:11:44,204
Frank Morris.
314
00:11:44,245 --> 00:11:44,996
Morris, Morris...
315
00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:46,581
Wait a second,
I think the Staties
316
00:11:46,623 --> 00:11:48,291
were looking at a guy
with that name.
317
00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:50,460
Looking at him
for what?
318
00:11:50,502 --> 00:11:53,004
A murder.
319
00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:55,298
Chief witness in
a narcotics case
got killed.
320
00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:57,092
Morris was our
only suspect.
321
00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:58,343
Who was
the defendant?
322
00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:00,095
Major heroin dealer
down in Camden.
323
00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:01,638
We flipped one
of his clockers.
324
00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,140
He got dead three days
before the trial started.
325
00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:05,350
Shooting?
326
00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:07,560
Middle of the day--
two pops while he's
killing a brew
327
00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:09,187
on the front porch--
nobody saw a thing.
328
00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,106
What's this dealer's
connection to Morris?
329
00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:13,441
No prior relationship
we could make out.
330
00:12:13,483 --> 00:12:16,152
The best we could
figure, Morris was
a small-time lowlife
331
00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,195
just trying to
make his bones.
332
00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:18,697
Yeah, his sheet
was clean.
333
00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,615
Yeah, kid had
a great future
ahead of him.
334
00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:23,827
So I take it you
just didn't have
much evidence.
335
00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:25,704
Nothing we could make stick--
but we could put him
336
00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:27,998
in the informant's neighborhood
the day of the murder
337
00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:30,208
and he visited the defendant
at Rahway Prison a week before.
338
00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:33,294
A hit man who
makes house calls.
339
00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:36,172
Karlin's a Manhattan judge
340
00:12:36,214 --> 00:12:38,341
so anybody she puts in
pending trial
341
00:12:38,383 --> 00:12:40,760
is either in Riker's
or the Tombs.
342
00:12:40,802 --> 00:12:42,721
So we pulled the visitors' log
from the last three weeks.
343
00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:44,347
You find Morris?
344
00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:45,265
"John Sheppard."
345
00:12:45,306 --> 00:12:47,392
Now, that's the name
that was on the fake ID
346
00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:48,685
we found in
Morris's apartment.
347
00:12:48,727 --> 00:12:51,187
So Sheppard visited
an inmate at Riker's
348
00:12:51,229 --> 00:12:53,356
named Randall Wylie
on March 7?
349
00:12:53,398 --> 00:12:55,734
Yeah, they spent
25 minutes together
350
00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,360
eight days before the hit.
351
00:12:57,402 --> 00:12:59,696
Well, what charge was
this Wylie in for?
352
00:12:59,738 --> 00:13:01,239
It's a paper case.
The guy's a CPA.
353
00:13:01,281 --> 00:13:02,240
Now, here's the kicker:
354
00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:06,244
Wylie's case is currently
before Judge Karlin.
355
00:13:10,415 --> 00:13:12,208
Have you guys spoken
to my lawyer?
356
00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:17,172
We're not here about your
current case, Mr. Wylie.
357
00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:19,257
Oh. Then what's this about?
358
00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:20,175
According to
the prison log
359
00:13:20,216 --> 00:13:23,386
a John Sheppard visited you
on March 7th.
360
00:13:23,428 --> 00:13:25,346
John Sheppard?
361
00:13:25,388 --> 00:13:27,265
Yeah.
You know him?
362
00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:28,016
No.
363
00:13:28,058 --> 00:13:30,435
Then why'd he come
and visit you?
364
00:13:30,477 --> 00:13:33,188
Uh, an officer came by
and said someone was here for me
365
00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:34,397
in the visiting area.
366
00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:36,358
When I came out,
it was this guy--
367
00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:37,734
Sheppard.
368
00:13:37,776 --> 00:13:39,277
I asked him who he was.
369
00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:41,529
He told me
my lawyer had sent him.
370
00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:44,407
Sent him about what?
371
00:13:44,449 --> 00:13:47,243
He said he was assisting her
on my case.
372
00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:50,246
Assisting her? How?
373
00:13:50,288 --> 00:13:52,290
That's what
I was thinking.
374
00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:54,084
After a couple of minutes,
it became clear
375
00:13:54,125 --> 00:13:55,710
he didn't know anything
about my case, either
376
00:13:55,752 --> 00:13:56,586
so I left.
377
00:13:56,628 --> 00:13:58,421
You didn't find this
strange, Mr. Wylie?
378
00:13:58,463 --> 00:14:01,091
A lot of strange things
happen in here.
379
00:14:01,132 --> 00:14:04,094
I figured somebody
must have just written down
380
00:14:04,135 --> 00:14:05,428
the wrong inmate number
381
00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:06,638
or something.
382
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,098
But he knew who you were?
383
00:14:08,139 --> 00:14:11,226
Well, look, what does this
have to do with me?
384
00:14:11,267 --> 00:14:12,644
A week after he visited you
385
00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:14,771
John Sheppard tried to kill
Judge Karlin.
386
00:14:14,813 --> 00:14:17,899
You know who Judge Karlin is,
don't you?
387
00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:20,318
I had nothing to do with that.
388
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,237
So it's just
a coincidence
389
00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:24,280
that he comes to visit
you out of the blue
390
00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:27,325
and then, a week later,
he takes a shot at yourjudge?
391
00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:31,621
I don't think my lawyer would
want me talking to you anymore.
392
00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:36,418
This guy's about as menacing
as Jeff Van Gundy.
393
00:14:36,459 --> 00:14:38,461
And doesn't even look like
he's facing much time.
394
00:14:38,503 --> 00:14:39,421
Why risk killing a judge?
395
00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:40,880
Hey, he lied about
how much time
396
00:14:40,922 --> 00:14:42,257
he spent with Morris
that day.
397
00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:45,719
Let's see if the Lieu
can pull some strings
in the Frauds Department.
398
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,846
Thanks.
399
00:14:49,723 --> 00:14:51,349
Thanks for coming down,
Detective.
400
00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:53,852
Sure. So what's up with
my old buddy, Randall Wylie?
401
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,019
We're just trying
to figure out
402
00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:58,148
if he's capable of more than
just securities violations.
403
00:14:58,189 --> 00:14:59,482
As in Judge Karlin?
404
00:14:59,524 --> 00:15:00,734
That's what
we're thinking.
405
00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:02,944
Wylie's a CFO of a
small investment bank.
406
00:15:02,986 --> 00:15:04,321
Wife, two little girls
407
00:15:04,362 --> 00:15:05,780
plush house
in Westchester.
408
00:15:05,822 --> 00:15:07,323
Got a little greedy.
409
00:15:07,365 --> 00:15:09,367
He took some stock
from a company
he was consulting.
410
00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:11,786
He unloaded the shares,
racked up almost
half a million dollars
411
00:15:11,828 --> 00:15:13,580
in profit.
412
00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:15,373
But what's your gut,
though?
413
00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,667
Was he desperate enough
to hire a hit man?
414
00:15:17,709 --> 00:15:19,627
Indictment turned his
world upside-down
415
00:15:19,669 --> 00:15:21,379
and he was fired
by his firm.
416
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,506
We took him out of his
office in handcuffs.
417
00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:25,341
That had to be tough
on his ego.
418
00:15:25,383 --> 00:15:26,342
And his wallet.
419
00:15:26,384 --> 00:15:28,887
D.A. froze most
of his accounts,
except for what
420
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,346
his family needed
to pay his bills.
421
00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:32,557
So your answer is yes?
422
00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,350
My answer is,
who the hell knows
423
00:15:34,392 --> 00:15:36,519
what anybody is capable of,
push comes to shove.
424
00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:39,439
Here are the financials
you wanted.
425
00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:43,902
Wylie's got more accounts
than I got dollars.
426
00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:45,528
Brokerage accounts,
money markets
427
00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:46,654
four checking accounts.
428
00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:48,365
Yeah, but he ain't
got nothing in them.
429
00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:51,785
$300, $400, and all I'm seeing
here are mortgage payments
430
00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:53,703
car payments, credit card bills.
431
00:15:53,745 --> 00:15:56,539
He couldn't afford to buy
a gun, much less hire a killer.
432
00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:57,457
And there are no
433
00:15:57,499 --> 00:16:00,251
major withdrawals,
even before the freeze.
434
00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:02,879
Here's his tax returns:
435
00:16:02,921 --> 00:16:05,298
"Gross income
436
00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:06,424
246 grand."
437
00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:07,384
Wow.
438
00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,386
Maybe he put some of that money
in his mattress.
439
00:16:09,427 --> 00:16:11,471
Here's the Schedule A.
440
00:16:11,513 --> 00:16:12,305
You know Wylie's got
441
00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:14,682
a New York State College
Tuition Account?
442
00:16:14,724 --> 00:16:19,270
I thought his two girls
were little.
443
00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:25,276
The College Tuition Program's
about three years old.
444
00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:26,903
It helps people save
for their kids' education.
445
00:16:26,945 --> 00:16:28,405
Can anybody open
an account here?
446
00:16:28,446 --> 00:16:30,448
Yeah, if you live in New York
and have a kid.
447
00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:31,700
How old does the kid
have to be?
448
00:16:31,741 --> 00:16:35,370
Well, you can open an account
the same day you give birth.
449
00:16:35,412 --> 00:16:38,248
And, uh, does the
money go directly to
the kid's college?
450
00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:39,457
You can withdraw
from the account
451
00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:43,545
but you incur a tax penalty
if it's not used for tuition.
452
00:16:43,586 --> 00:16:48,258
Does a Randall Wylie
still have an account here?
453
00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:49,968
Let's see...
454
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,470
Randall Wylie...
455
00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:54,472
Yeah. The account's
still active.
456
00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:55,473
Any withdrawals
recently?
457
00:16:55,557 --> 00:16:56,433
Uh...
458
00:16:56,474 --> 00:16:59,019
There was one on...
459
00:16:59,060 --> 00:16:59,853
March 12th.
460
00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:01,604
That's three days
before the shooting.
461
00:17:01,646 --> 00:17:02,272
For how much?
462
00:17:02,313 --> 00:17:03,773
Practically
the whole account.
463
00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:06,985
$100,000.
464
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:10,697
I guess he wasn't worried
about a tax penalty.
465
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,870
We pulled the LUDs
from the phone
466
00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:18,288
Wylie had access to at Rikers--
467
00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:19,372
a week before the shooting
468
00:17:19,414 --> 00:17:21,958
there was a call to the bar
where Morris got the gun.
469
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,335
Can we put Morris
on the call?
470
00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,627
He was at the bar.
471
00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:28,214
The next day he spent 25 minutes
with Wylie in the Visitors Area.
472
00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:29,758
Money change hands?
473
00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,761
Well, there was
a $100,000 withdrawal
474
00:17:32,802 --> 00:17:35,013
from Wylie's
daughter's tuition account.
475
00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:37,015
Any evidence
it went to Morris?
476
00:17:37,057 --> 00:17:38,975
Nothing so far.
477
00:17:39,017 --> 00:17:44,022
Wylie's not some Colombian
drug lord, Anita.
478
00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:46,858
We're having trouble
imagining some milquetoast CPA
479
00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:48,068
ordering a hit on a judge.
480
00:17:48,109 --> 00:17:52,155
Yeah, we're having some problems
buying into it ourselves.
481
00:17:52,197 --> 00:17:55,325
Okay, well, Jack and I will talk
to the ADA in our Frauds Bureau
482
00:17:55,367 --> 00:17:56,868
who was handling Wylie's case.
483
00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:58,995
We'll see how serious
this situation was.
484
00:17:59,037 --> 00:18:00,663
Okay.
485
00:18:00,705 --> 00:18:02,332
You really think
he went after Karlin?
486
00:18:02,374 --> 00:18:03,333
You tell us.
487
00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:04,376
I guess
anything
is possible.
488
00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:05,669
You offer Wylie a plea?
489
00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:06,711
Yeah, two to six.
490
00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:07,837
And he wasn't interested?
491
00:18:07,879 --> 00:18:08,672
Never got that far.
492
00:18:08,713 --> 00:18:10,423
Karlin wouldn't
agree to the deal.
493
00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:11,883
She thought it
was too lenient.
494
00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:13,009
Was it?
495
00:18:13,051 --> 00:18:14,344
It was nothing
different than
496
00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,054
what Wylie could've
gotten next door.
497
00:18:16,096 --> 00:18:17,347
But Karlin
wanted top count
498
00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:18,390
no promise
on sentence.
499
00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,683
On the next adjourn-date,
she put him in Rikers.
500
00:18:20,725 --> 00:18:21,935
With no priors?
501
00:18:21,976 --> 00:18:24,854
She found out that
Wylie's wife went
to the Cayman Islands.
502
00:18:24,896 --> 00:18:26,356
Offshore bank accounts.
503
00:18:26,398 --> 00:18:28,233
She flew me in and
out the same day.
504
00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:29,984
She's not there
for the snorkeling.
505
00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,861
Karlin remanded him
as a flight risk.
506
00:18:31,903 --> 00:18:32,988
How did Wylie react?
507
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:33,947
He was pretty shaken up.
508
00:18:33,989 --> 00:18:35,949
When the court officers
came in to cuff him
509
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,326
they had to drag his wife out
kicking and screaming.
510
00:18:38,368 --> 00:18:39,327
I'm late for an arraignment.
511
00:18:39,369 --> 00:18:40,787
So, if there's anything else
512
00:18:40,829 --> 00:18:42,664
I'll be in
my office later.
513
00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:43,707
Okay, thanks.
514
00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:47,168
Sounds like Wylie had a reason
to want Karlin dead.
515
00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:50,005
And if one reason wasn't
enough, she gave him another.
516
00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:52,382
You think what she did
was inappropriate?
517
00:18:52,424 --> 00:18:54,676
I respect her right
to turn down a plea
518
00:18:54,718 --> 00:18:56,344
if she thought it
was too lenient.
519
00:18:56,386 --> 00:18:58,263
But it forces Wylie
to go to trial.
520
00:18:58,304 --> 00:18:59,848
How many judges
would balk at
521
00:18:59,848 --> 00:19:01,182
the chance to
dispose of a case?
522
00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:05,061
She treats her job as
more than a numbers game;
more power to her.
523
00:19:05,103 --> 00:19:07,439
A woman after
your own heart.
524
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,442
The voters reelected
her twice, Jack.
525
00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,444
We know that Wylie's
wife was pretty angry.
526
00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,237
It wouldn't be
the first time
527
00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,947
that a family member
went too far.
528
00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:18,366
Well, I have a meeting
with her in Westchester.
529
00:19:18,408 --> 00:19:20,910
I'm going to drive
up there this afternoon.
530
00:19:20,952 --> 00:19:22,746
I'm sorry, but you
wasted your time
531
00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,414
coming up
all the way up here.
532
00:19:24,456 --> 00:19:26,708
Actually, I was hoping
you could clarify
533
00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:28,460
a few things for me,
Mrs. Wylie.
534
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:31,880
If you're not clear, why are you
prosecuting my husband?
535
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,799
At this point, we haven't
made any formal decision.
536
00:19:34,841 --> 00:19:37,385
No, but you've made up your mind
already, haven't you?
537
00:19:37,427 --> 00:19:40,764
He did meet with the man
who shot at Judge Karlin.
538
00:19:40,805 --> 00:19:43,433
Believe what you want.
539
00:19:43,475 --> 00:19:48,271
My husand is an accountant,
Ms. Carmichael, not a killer.
540
00:19:48,313 --> 00:19:51,441
We found the money, Mrs. Wylie.
541
00:19:51,483 --> 00:19:53,401
What money?
542
00:19:53,443 --> 00:19:56,279
The money from
your daughter's
college tuition.
543
00:19:56,321 --> 00:19:58,948
I also know about
the trip to the Cayman's.
544
00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:01,493
First this Judge, and now you.
545
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:05,997
I thought people were supposed
to be presumed innocent.
546
00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,457
If you assisted your husband
547
00:20:07,499 --> 00:20:09,501
in procuring money
to hire this man...
548
00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,460
Are you threatening me?
549
00:20:10,502 --> 00:20:14,047
I think what I'm doing is
offering you a chance
550
00:20:14,089 --> 00:20:16,508
to save what's left
of your family.
551
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:20,011
That money was used
to pay our legal fees.
552
00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:23,848
Now get the hell
out of my house.
553
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,112
Please. You expect me to help
you put away my own client?
554
00:20:37,153 --> 00:20:39,364
We could always subpoena
your account records.
555
00:20:39,406 --> 00:20:41,366
And I can always
refuse to comply.
556
00:20:41,408 --> 00:20:43,827
Somehow, I don't see you
in prison stripes, Danielle.
557
00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,496
Well, you're going to see me
a lot more in pinstripes, Jack
558
00:20:46,538 --> 00:20:48,999
because as of yesterday,
I represent Randall Wylie
559
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,333
in the attempted murder case.
560
00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:51,376
Here's my Notice of Appearance.
561
00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:53,837
That's a convenient
way to shield yourself
562
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,130
from being called
as a witness at his trial.
563
00:20:55,171 --> 00:20:58,383
There are ways around
that, Danielle, if
that's what this is.
564
00:20:58,425 --> 00:21:00,301
You wouldn't do that to me,
would you, Jack?
565
00:21:00,343 --> 00:21:02,387
In a New York minute.
566
00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:09,477
The minute Karlin blocked a plea
bargain, my trial fee kicked in.
567
00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,521
Here's the deposit slip.
568
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,525
$100,000, cash.
569
00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:17,360
You took your money up front.
570
00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:20,363
And I so wanted to sandbag you
with it at trial.
571
00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:23,658
It's just too bad that
Janice opened her big mouth.
572
00:21:27,662 --> 00:21:29,414
It's a good thing
Melnick came clean.
573
00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:30,874
You'd have spent
your summation
574
00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:32,500
wiping the shoe polish
off your mouth.
575
00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:36,546
Meanwhile, we have no proof
Wylie actually paid Morris.
576
00:21:36,588 --> 00:21:38,381
It could've
been c.o.d.
577
00:21:38,423 --> 00:21:41,593
His hit man trusted him
more than his lawyer did.
578
00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:44,095
So, without connecting him
to a payment
579
00:21:44,179 --> 00:21:45,847
do we even have a case?
580
00:21:45,889 --> 00:21:47,390
Wylie met with
Morris face-to-face
581
00:21:47,432 --> 00:21:49,351
about a week before
the murder attempt.
582
00:21:49,392 --> 00:21:52,228
I seriously doubt
it was a conversation
about tax advice.
583
00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:53,855
Why would a man
like Randall Wylie
584
00:21:53,897 --> 00:21:55,357
stoop to something
like this?
585
00:21:55,398 --> 00:21:57,275
'Cause he stole half
a million dollars.
586
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,027
Well, there's
a small difference
587
00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:00,945
between greed
and murdering a judge.
588
00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:02,030
Well, how about a judge
589
00:22:02,072 --> 00:22:04,324
who wouldn't cut him a deal
and put him in jail?
590
00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,368
Frauds Bureau
was ready to take a plea.
591
00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:07,911
Karlin put the kibosh on it.
592
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:09,871
One would think
our people knew
593
00:22:09,913 --> 00:22:11,581
more about the case
than she did.
594
00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:13,583
I've had a half-dozen
cases with her.
595
00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:15,585
She listens to
our recommendations
596
00:22:15,627 --> 00:22:18,088
but she tends to
make up her own mind.
597
00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:21,424
How did Wylie
find Morris?
598
00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:22,467
It's hard to imagine
599
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,387
his firm has
a murder-for-hire consultant.
600
00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:28,598
Maybe he started
hanging out with
the wrong element.
601
00:22:37,649 --> 00:22:40,402
Randall Wylie was remanded
without bail
602
00:22:40,443 --> 00:22:42,362
by Judge Karlin on March 4.
603
00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:45,407
Assigned C-17, Lower Tier 3.
604
00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:46,658
Is that a dorm or a cell?
605
00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:48,493
That's a single inmate unit.
606
00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:49,911
He was on suicide watch.
607
00:22:49,953 --> 00:22:51,454
Did he make an attempt?
608
00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:52,706
Not that we know of.
609
00:22:52,747 --> 00:22:55,917
In this case, the suicide watch
was requested by his own lawyer.
610
00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:58,420
Did Wylie have contact
with any other inmates?
611
00:22:58,461 --> 00:23:00,130
We have S.O.A.s
patrolling the areas
612
00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,673
making sure nobody hangs up.
613
00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:02,674
S.O.A.s?
614
00:23:02,716 --> 00:23:04,300
Suicide Observation Aides.
615
00:23:04,342 --> 00:23:06,010
Staff or inmates?
616
00:23:06,094 --> 00:23:08,638
Inmates. As long as they're
not charged with murder.
617
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,683
To avoiding any conflict
of interest.
618
00:23:11,725 --> 00:23:14,310
Who was on
Wylie's tier?
619
00:23:16,187 --> 00:23:18,690
Randall was wound up
pretty tight when he got here.
620
00:23:18,732 --> 00:23:20,108
Never been in jail before.
621
00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,360
Did he ever talk
about killing himself?
622
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:23,445
Seemed okay to me.
623
00:23:23,486 --> 00:23:27,157
They took his belt
and shoelaces away,
just in case
624
00:23:27,198 --> 00:23:29,034
and we pass by
every five, ten minutes.
625
00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:30,535
Did you spend any time
with him?
626
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,955
Yeah, we talked a little bit,
mostly about his case.
627
00:23:33,997 --> 00:23:38,001
Did Wylie ever say anything
about Judge Karlin?
628
00:23:41,713 --> 00:23:45,550
Oh, I probably shouldn't
be talking to you guys.
629
00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:48,303
What's the problem,
Mr. McGowan?
630
00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:50,013
Nothing.
631
00:23:50,055 --> 00:23:53,141
You know, we can always notify
the ADA who's prosecuting you
632
00:23:53,183 --> 00:23:55,310
that you're obstructing
our investigation.
633
00:23:55,352 --> 00:23:58,688
They got their own set of rules
in here, you know that.
634
00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,315
Honor among thieves.
635
00:24:00,357 --> 00:24:01,691
Don't snitch on nobody.
636
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,527
Unless it pays off.
637
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,198
You got do something for me?
638
00:24:08,239 --> 00:24:11,534
If you have something for us.
639
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:17,040
I'm looking at 25 years
on an Arson Two rap.
640
00:24:17,082 --> 00:24:18,666
What exactly
did you burn down?
641
00:24:18,708 --> 00:24:21,044
A store, and nobody got hurt.
642
00:24:21,086 --> 00:24:24,005
If you plead to C felony,
we can try and get you minimum
643
00:24:24,047 --> 00:24:25,673
provided you're straight
with us.
644
00:24:25,715 --> 00:24:27,258
And the D.A. prosecuting me
645
00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:28,760
he's going to go along
with this?
646
00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,720
Our case has priority.
647
00:24:33,556 --> 00:24:35,809
Then I guess we got a deal.
648
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:38,561
According to McGowan
649
00:24:38,603 --> 00:24:41,773
Wylie was in a rage
about Judge Karlin from day one.
650
00:24:41,815 --> 00:24:44,693
He was obsessed about finding
a way to get back at her
651
00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:47,529
for putting "someone like him"
into that "hellhole."
652
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:50,615
That's pretty tough talk
from a CPA.
653
00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:53,493
He was looking down the teeth
of a trial and a long sentence.
654
00:24:53,535 --> 00:24:56,496
He had nothing but bad choices.
655
00:24:56,538 --> 00:25:00,083
And his only way out was
the ultimate in judge shopping.
656
00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:02,127
So you actually believed
this McGowan?
657
00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:03,211
We found him, Nora.
658
00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:06,464
McGowan only corroborated
what we already suspected.
659
00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:09,259
I'm sure you two cut him
a pretty good deal.
660
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:11,553
It wasn't like our pool
of potential witnesses
661
00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:13,596
was the Boys Tabernacle Choir.
662
00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:17,225
But we still can't connect him
and Morris with a payment.
663
00:25:17,267 --> 00:25:20,437
Our forensic accountants have
been all over the paperwork.
664
00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:21,354
So far, no luck.
665
00:25:21,396 --> 00:25:23,148
It's a pretty solid
circumstantial case
666
00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:24,107
even without the money.
667
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:26,776
So, some schlep goes to Rikers
for a few months
668
00:25:26,818 --> 00:25:30,363
and we manage to turn him
into a cold-blooded killer.
669
00:25:33,491 --> 00:25:35,910
Pick him up.
670
00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:40,206
Randall Wylie,
we need you to come with us.
671
00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:41,624
Can't you see
I'm with my wife?
672
00:25:41,666 --> 00:25:43,626
Stand up, Mr. Wylie.
You're under arrest.
673
00:25:43,668 --> 00:25:45,170
Of course
I'm under arrest.
674
00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:46,546
What else would I
be doing here?
675
00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:49,132
Yeah, only this time
it's for attempted murder.
676
00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:50,342
Randall, what's
going on?
677
00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:52,093
I'm already in jail,
for God's sake!
678
00:25:52,135 --> 00:25:53,303
Tell it to the judge.
679
00:25:56,765 --> 00:25:58,600
I knew I was
right about Wylie.
680
00:25:58,641 --> 00:26:00,727
Right about him
in what way, Judge?
681
00:26:00,769 --> 00:26:02,479
You sit on the bench long enough
682
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,316
you get a feel
for guys like that.
683
00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:08,652
He's a businessman
with no priors.
684
00:26:08,693 --> 00:26:11,696
Are you saying you
knew he was dangerous?
685
00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:15,325
I thought you came here
to prep me for the trial.
686
00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:16,159
I did.
687
00:26:16,201 --> 00:26:18,286
You're going
to be cross- examined
688
00:26:18,286 --> 00:26:19,704
on the appearance of bias.
689
00:26:19,746 --> 00:26:21,289
And I'm sure
you'll be able
690
00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:23,166
to lay that misconception
to rest.
691
00:26:23,208 --> 00:26:24,209
They'll say
692
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:25,335
you threw Wylie in jail
693
00:26:25,377 --> 00:26:27,045
because of what
his wife did.
694
00:26:27,087 --> 00:26:28,004
That was hardly bias.
695
00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:29,089
And when our office
proposed
696
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:31,174
a plea bargain,
you refused to go
along with it.
697
00:26:31,216 --> 00:26:35,512
I wasn't satisfied your office
was sending the right message
698
00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:37,305
to white collar defendants.
699
00:26:37,347 --> 00:26:39,182
Are you second-guessing me?
700
00:26:39,224 --> 00:26:42,060
The defense will paint all this
as being draconian.
701
00:26:42,143 --> 00:26:43,228
Wylie was going to run.
702
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:44,187
I stopped him.
703
00:26:44,229 --> 00:26:48,066
Danielle Melnick made nice
to some young ADA
704
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:49,859
who'll probably end up
705
00:26:49,901 --> 00:26:52,362
working at her law firm
some day.
706
00:26:52,404 --> 00:26:55,198
Only you didn't propose
any alternative.
707
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,200
The Constitution does that,
Jack.
708
00:26:57,242 --> 00:26:58,493
It's called a trial.
709
00:27:03,581 --> 00:27:06,376
I've given you your motive
evidence wrapped in a ribbon.
710
00:27:06,418 --> 00:27:08,545
And that's why
we're calling you, Judge.
711
00:27:08,586 --> 00:27:11,089
Only, don't underestimate
a jury's sympathy.
712
00:27:11,131 --> 00:27:11,881
I don't.
713
00:27:11,923 --> 00:27:16,386
That's why I prefer
bench trials.
714
00:27:19,597 --> 00:27:21,307
Randall Wylie was before me
715
00:27:21,349 --> 00:27:23,101
on a fraud indictment.
716
00:27:23,143 --> 00:27:25,228
I was assigned to preside
over all pre-trial proceedings
717
00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:26,104
then the trial.
718
00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:27,605
How much time was
the defendant facing
719
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:30,191
if convicted of all
charges against him?
720
00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:31,860
There were three separate frauds
721
00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:34,529
for which he could be
sentenced consecutively.
722
00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:36,323
45 years was the aggregate.
723
00:27:36,364 --> 00:27:38,450
I turn your attention
to January 17.
724
00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:40,326
What if anything happened
725
00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:42,245
with regard to Mr. Wylie's case?
726
00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:43,413
The defense motion was
727
00:27:43,455 --> 00:27:44,414
on my calendar.
728
00:27:44,456 --> 00:27:46,291
When the case was called
729
00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:49,336
Ms. Benedict, the ADA
from your Frauds Bureau
730
00:27:49,377 --> 00:27:51,337
told the court
that Mrs. Wylie
731
00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:52,881
took a flight
to the Cayman Islands
732
00:27:52,922 --> 00:27:54,257
and returned
the same evening.
733
00:27:54,299 --> 00:27:56,718
What did you do upon learning
this information?
734
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,262
Mrs. Wylie was in the courtroom
that day
735
00:27:59,304 --> 00:28:01,139
so I asked her if it was true.
736
00:28:01,181 --> 00:28:02,432
What did she say?
737
00:28:02,474 --> 00:28:04,893
That it was none of my business.
738
00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:05,810
What happened next?
739
00:28:05,852 --> 00:28:08,146
I remanded the defendant
as a flight risk.
740
00:28:08,188 --> 00:28:10,815
And what transpired
in the courtroom?
741
00:28:10,857 --> 00:28:12,025
My court officers
742
00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:16,112
placed handcuffs on Mr. Wylie
and led him into the pens.
743
00:28:16,154 --> 00:28:17,155
At that point
744
00:28:17,197 --> 00:28:18,740
Mrs. Wylie began
throwing a tantrum.
745
00:28:18,782 --> 00:28:21,451
She said her husband didn't
belong in Rikers Island
746
00:28:21,493 --> 00:28:22,285
that I was out to get him.
747
00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:25,622
Now, in the days
preceding this incident
748
00:28:25,663 --> 00:28:30,335
did you take any other action
with regard to Mr. Wylie's case?
749
00:28:30,377 --> 00:28:33,338
A plea bargain was brought
to me.
750
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,422
I rejected it.
751
00:28:34,464 --> 00:28:36,591
How much time was involved?
752
00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:37,550
Two years.
753
00:28:37,592 --> 00:28:39,803
Not the 45-year aggregate?
754
00:28:39,844 --> 00:28:41,262
Far from it.
755
00:28:41,304 --> 00:28:43,348
And when this plea bargain was
refused
756
00:28:43,390 --> 00:28:45,141
how did Mr. Wylie react?
757
00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:52,190
He was incensed.
758
00:28:52,232 --> 00:28:54,359
Nothing further.
759
00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:59,197
What's your reputation
on the bench, Judge Karlin?
760
00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:01,366
I like to think
it's tough but fair.
761
00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:03,535
But, you routinely mete out
prison sentences
762
00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:04,786
in the hundreds of years?
763
00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:06,413
I wouldn't say routinely.
764
00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:08,707
But, you do impose
three-digit sentences
765
00:29:08,748 --> 00:29:10,834
when you know that
the absolute maximum
766
00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:13,545
a defendant can serve
for a non-capital case is
767
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:15,213
50 years to life.
Is that right?
768
00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:17,340
I do it to make a point.
769
00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:18,133
What's that?
770
00:29:18,174 --> 00:29:20,677
To enrage the people
you sentence?
771
00:29:20,719 --> 00:29:23,805
That predators who are brought
to justice in my courtroom
772
00:29:23,847 --> 00:29:24,848
will not be coddled.
773
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:26,391
So I take it
you've remanded
774
00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:29,561
hundreds of defendants
the way you remanded Mr. Wylie?
775
00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:31,521
Yes.
776
00:29:31,563 --> 00:29:33,356
And I'm sure that Mrs. Wylie is
777
00:29:33,398 --> 00:29:35,442
not the first relative
of a defendant
778
00:29:35,483 --> 00:29:36,901
to express disapproval with you?
779
00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:37,902
Most people behave
780
00:29:37,944 --> 00:29:38,862
in my courtroom.
781
00:29:38,903 --> 00:29:39,696
Why is that?
782
00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:42,699
Because they're scared
to death of you?
783
00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,827
A healthy respect for authority
goes a long way, Ms. Melnick
784
00:29:45,869 --> 00:29:47,328
especially these days.
785
00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:51,541
Judge, I'd like you
to take a look
786
00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:54,544
at Defense Exhibit Four.
787
00:29:54,586 --> 00:29:57,672
Is this your likeness
on a glassine envelope
788
00:29:57,714 --> 00:29:58,506
used to package heroin
789
00:29:58,548 --> 00:30:00,884
with the brand name
"Judge Dread?"
790
00:30:00,925 --> 00:30:02,719
I've seen this before.
791
00:30:02,761 --> 00:30:03,553
I don't like it
792
00:30:03,595 --> 00:30:06,973
but I'm not sure
it's such a bad thing.
793
00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:09,768
At least the dealers will know
what's in store for them
794
00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:12,771
when they're caught selling this
poison to our children.
795
00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:14,856
Before you were appointed
to the bench
796
00:30:14,898 --> 00:30:16,900
you prosecuted thousands
of defendants
797
00:30:16,941 --> 00:30:17,776
as an Assistant D.A.
798
00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:18,902
is that right?
799
00:30:18,943 --> 00:30:19,986
Yes.
800
00:30:20,028 --> 00:30:22,947
And you probably sent
an equal number
of defendants
801
00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:23,865
to state prison
802
00:30:23,907 --> 00:30:25,867
as a Supreme Court judge,
am I right?
803
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:26,951
Close to it, yes.
804
00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:28,787
So would it
be fair to say
805
00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:30,789
that you were hated
by virtually everyone
806
00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:32,040
over whom you've presided?
807
00:30:32,082 --> 00:30:33,958
Objection.
808
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,919
No. I want to answer that.
809
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,921
This isn't a popularity contest.
810
00:30:37,962 --> 00:30:41,383
If these defendants
like me, Ms. Melnick
811
00:30:41,424 --> 00:30:44,803
I wouldn't be doing my job.
812
00:30:44,844 --> 00:30:46,596
Right.
813
00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:57,982
I met Randall Wylie
his first night at Rikers.
814
00:30:58,024 --> 00:30:59,401
I was on duty
on his tier
815
00:30:59,442 --> 00:31:00,944
as a Suicide
Observation Aide.
816
00:31:00,986 --> 00:31:02,612
Was he suicidal?
817
00:31:02,654 --> 00:31:03,697
He was mad.
818
00:31:03,738 --> 00:31:04,781
Mad at whom?
819
00:31:04,823 --> 00:31:06,783
The judge who put him in there.
820
00:31:06,825 --> 00:31:10,453
What specifically did he say?
821
00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:12,288
Well, at first he was
just trash-talking
822
00:31:12,330 --> 00:31:13,790
about how, you know,
she was trying
823
00:31:13,832 --> 00:31:14,791
to screw him over.
824
00:31:14,833 --> 00:31:15,792
And then?
825
00:31:15,834 --> 00:31:17,752
And then after a while
he started talking
826
00:31:17,794 --> 00:31:19,337
about how he was
going to take her out.
827
00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:21,506
Killing her?
828
00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:26,970
Yeah.
829
00:31:27,011 --> 00:31:29,556
When exactly did this happen?
830
00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:31,933
I remember one day
he said that
831
00:31:31,975 --> 00:31:33,601
he was, uh, he was getting out
832
00:31:33,643 --> 00:31:35,687
and I probably wouldn't
see him again.
833
00:31:35,729 --> 00:31:38,690
Anyway, later that night he was
right back on the Rock.
834
00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:41,818
But, that's when he started
talking about it seriously.
835
00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:42,694
What do you mean?
836
00:31:42,736 --> 00:31:44,654
Well, he said nobody
could screw him
837
00:31:44,696 --> 00:31:45,655
and get away with it
838
00:31:45,697 --> 00:31:48,658
and he was going to find someone
on the outside
839
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,870
who would take care of the
situation once and for all.
840
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:53,997
Did you have any further
conversations with him
841
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,081
of this nature?
842
00:31:55,123 --> 00:31:57,500
I remember about a week
before the judge was shot at
843
00:31:57,542 --> 00:31:59,627
I came by, Randall was
downstairs for a visit.
844
00:31:59,669 --> 00:32:01,046
Later I asked him
if it was his wife.
845
00:32:01,087 --> 00:32:02,464
And he said it was someone
846
00:32:02,505 --> 00:32:04,883
he was doing business with.
847
00:32:06,551 --> 00:32:08,386
Nothing further.
848
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:11,890
Let's see, Mr. McGowan.
849
00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:15,060
You were previously convicted
of Grand Larceny?
850
00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:15,894
Yeah.
851
00:32:15,935 --> 00:32:19,355
And then you set a fire
in a store?
852
00:32:19,397 --> 00:32:22,067
I plead guilty to that, yeah.
853
00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:25,904
Well, did you do it,
Mr. McGowan?
854
00:32:25,945 --> 00:32:27,155
Yes, I did.
855
00:32:27,197 --> 00:32:28,365
Why?
856
00:32:28,406 --> 00:32:32,035
Was it an accident?
857
00:32:32,077 --> 00:32:34,996
I had a problem with somebody
who worked there.
858
00:32:35,038 --> 00:32:38,166
I made a mistake
and I'm serving my time for it.
859
00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:39,626
Well, you made a deal
860
00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,003
for the minimal
allowable sentence
861
00:32:42,045 --> 00:32:44,089
in exchange
for this testimony, right?
862
00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:45,090
Pretty much.
863
00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:46,716
And you testified
864
00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:48,051
that you spoke with Mr. Wylie
865
00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:49,761
on several
occasions about Judge Karlin?
866
00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:50,762
Yes, I did.
867
00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:52,389
Did you also speak
868
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:54,057
to my client
on other occasions
869
00:32:54,099 --> 00:32:56,101
when Judge Karlin's name
did not come up?
870
00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:57,102
Sure.
871
00:32:57,143 --> 00:32:58,728
So would it be fair
to say that
872
00:32:58,770 --> 00:33:01,398
over the course of several
months you developed
873
00:33:01,439 --> 00:33:03,024
a personal relationship
with Mr. Wylie?
874
00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:05,944
Yeah, I guess
you could say that.
875
00:33:05,986 --> 00:33:08,071
Right. You befriended him
876
00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:11,574
because, why, you're
just a hell of a nice guy?
877
00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:12,701
Objection.
878
00:33:12,742 --> 00:33:14,786
Sustained.
879
00:33:14,828 --> 00:33:15,954
Nothing further.
880
00:33:23,211 --> 00:33:26,464
When Judge Karlin remanded me
that day, I was stunned.
881
00:33:26,506 --> 00:33:28,967
I couldn't believe
she would put me in jail
882
00:33:29,009 --> 00:33:30,427
for something my wife did.
883
00:33:30,468 --> 00:33:31,428
What happened
884
00:33:31,469 --> 00:33:32,762
when you got to Rikers?
885
00:33:32,804 --> 00:33:34,431
Well, even before
I got there
886
00:33:34,472 --> 00:33:35,390
something happened.
887
00:33:35,432 --> 00:33:38,601
This inmate on the bus
punched me in the face
888
00:33:38,643 --> 00:33:40,895
and made me give him
my wristwatch.
889
00:33:40,937 --> 00:33:44,649
So what was your emotional
condition when you arrived?
890
00:33:44,691 --> 00:33:46,818
Scared out of my mind.
891
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:49,904
It was the worst day
of my life.
892
00:33:49,946 --> 00:33:50,780
Mr. Wylie
893
00:33:50,822 --> 00:33:54,117
When did you first meet
Jimmy McGowan?
894
00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,786
I think it was
the next day.
895
00:33:56,828 --> 00:33:59,622
He asked me what
a guy like me was
doing there
896
00:33:59,664 --> 00:34:02,876
and basically, I told him
what happened with Judge Karlin.
897
00:34:02,917 --> 00:34:04,544
And were you angry
about that?
898
00:34:04,586 --> 00:34:05,462
Of course.
899
00:34:05,503 --> 00:34:07,756
So what did Mr. McGowan say?
900
00:34:07,797 --> 00:34:09,507
Jimmy seemed to know
901
00:34:09,549 --> 00:34:10,967
all about Judge Karlin.
902
00:34:11,009 --> 00:34:12,510
A lot more than I did.
903
00:34:12,552 --> 00:34:14,637
He told me these stories
904
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,598
that scared the hell out of me.
905
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,516
What kind of stories,
Mr. Wylie?
906
00:34:18,558 --> 00:34:22,103
About how she put away guys
for hundreds of years
907
00:34:22,145 --> 00:34:24,522
for selling a few bags of coke
908
00:34:24,564 --> 00:34:26,650
that in her eyes,
you were guilty
909
00:34:26,691 --> 00:34:28,985
before you were proven innocent
910
00:34:29,027 --> 00:34:32,197
and if the prosecutor
couldn't make a case
911
00:34:32,238 --> 00:34:34,115
she would do it
for them.
912
00:34:34,157 --> 00:34:35,075
How many times
913
00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:38,536
did Mr. McGowan talk
to you about Judge Karlin?
914
00:34:38,578 --> 00:34:42,540
Just about every time
he had the chance.
915
00:34:42,582 --> 00:34:44,626
He said that if I didn't
figure out some way
916
00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:47,212
to get out from under her,
my case was hopeless.
917
00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:52,175
She'd send me upstate
and my wife would divorce me.
918
00:34:52,217 --> 00:34:55,011
I'd never see my kids again.
919
00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:59,182
So what happened next?
920
00:34:59,224 --> 00:35:01,559
Jimmy offered to help.
921
00:35:01,601 --> 00:35:03,144
Really?
922
00:35:03,186 --> 00:35:04,521
What was his offer?
923
00:35:04,562 --> 00:35:07,899
He said he can
put me in touch
924
00:35:07,941 --> 00:35:09,567
with someone
who could take care
925
00:35:09,609 --> 00:35:10,902
of the situation for me.
926
00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:12,529
I asked him what he meant.
927
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:14,239
He said, "What do you think
I mean?"
928
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,242
And what did you think
he meant, Mr. Wylie?
929
00:35:17,283 --> 00:35:20,578
A professional killer.
930
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:24,249
What happened next?
931
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:28,086
Well, he mentioned this
three or four times
932
00:35:28,128 --> 00:35:29,337
and I would say "No, no."
933
00:35:29,379 --> 00:35:30,922
And then one day
out of the blue
934
00:35:30,964 --> 00:35:33,550
he said there was a guy
coming to the visiting room
935
00:35:33,591 --> 00:35:34,467
to meet me.
936
00:35:34,509 --> 00:35:36,678
I should at least hear
what he had to say.
937
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:37,595
So you actually had
938
00:35:37,637 --> 00:35:40,140
a face-to-face meeting
with Frank Morris?
939
00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:41,224
I know how
it sounds
940
00:35:41,266 --> 00:35:42,934
but I just needed
to get Jimmy
941
00:35:42,976 --> 00:35:45,228
off my back.
942
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:47,856
So I went down for the meeting.
943
00:35:47,897 --> 00:35:49,274
Where Frank Morris was
waiting for you?
944
00:35:49,315 --> 00:35:50,150
And I started
to tell him
945
00:35:50,191 --> 00:35:52,277
that I didn't want
to go through with it.
946
00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:58,241
And then he mentioned that
he knew where my house was
947
00:35:58,283 --> 00:36:01,036
where my kids went to school.
948
00:36:01,077 --> 00:36:03,121
So what did you do?
949
00:36:03,163 --> 00:36:05,248
I went back
to my cell
950
00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:07,751
and I thought
to myself
951
00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:10,587
"This is absolutely insane.
952
00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:15,925
I can't believe I got myself
involved with these people."
953
00:36:15,967 --> 00:36:19,637
So the next time I saw Jimmy
I told him
954
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,182
that I was just going to take
my chances with Judge Karlin.
955
00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:26,811
And how did Mr. McGowan react?
956
00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:31,191
He said, "Hey, it's your life
going down the drain."
957
00:36:31,232 --> 00:36:34,069
And that was the last time
we talked about it.
958
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:37,947
About a week later
I found out what happened.
959
00:36:37,989 --> 00:36:39,282
I couldn't believe it.
960
00:36:39,324 --> 00:36:43,161
Mr. Wylie, did you ever
hire Frank Morris
961
00:36:43,203 --> 00:36:45,288
to kill Judge Karlin?
962
00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:46,081
Absolutely not.
963
00:36:46,122 --> 00:36:46,956
Did you ever pay him
964
00:36:46,998 --> 00:36:49,959
or anyone else
any money to do that?
965
00:36:50,001 --> 00:36:51,961
Not a cent.
966
00:36:52,003 --> 00:36:53,463
Thank you.
967
00:37:04,182 --> 00:37:05,684
Did we get duped?
968
00:37:05,725 --> 00:37:07,310
Either that
or Wylie gave
969
00:37:07,352 --> 00:37:08,812
an award-winning performance.
970
00:37:08,853 --> 00:37:09,604
Jack?
971
00:37:09,646 --> 00:37:12,357
Hard to say.
But Wylie's a scam artist.
972
00:37:12,399 --> 00:37:14,985
That's why they threw him
in prison in the first place.
973
00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:15,902
He was in jail
974
00:37:15,944 --> 00:37:18,029
because Judge Karlin
threw him in there.
975
00:37:18,071 --> 00:37:19,989
We throw people
in jail every day.
976
00:37:20,031 --> 00:37:21,825
How many of them
end up discussing payback
977
00:37:21,866 --> 00:37:23,076
with a hired killer?
978
00:37:23,118 --> 00:37:26,830
Only if McGowan were a cop,
they'd be arguing entrapment
979
00:37:26,871 --> 00:37:28,998
that Wylie was induced
to commit a crime
980
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,668
he never would have
committed otherwise.
981
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:33,336
He'd probably walk
away from this.
982
00:37:33,378 --> 00:37:34,921
Only McGowan wasn't a cop.
983
00:37:34,963 --> 00:37:36,881
No. I know exactly who he was.
984
00:37:36,923 --> 00:37:39,175
He was an arsonist
who got the minimum.
985
00:37:39,217 --> 00:37:40,844
It'd mean he planned
986
00:37:40,885 --> 00:37:41,886
this from the start.
987
00:37:41,928 --> 00:37:43,930
That he knew we were going
to come looking for him.
988
00:37:43,972 --> 00:37:47,308
He set himself up to be a hero.
989
00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:49,185
Who's playing us, Nora?
990
00:37:49,227 --> 00:37:53,398
A guy who sets fires
or a guy who mined the loopholes
991
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,025
in the Security Act of 1934?
992
00:37:55,066 --> 00:37:56,860
We bet on the wrong horse,
that's all.
993
00:37:56,901 --> 00:37:57,861
Desperate people
994
00:37:57,902 --> 00:37:58,778
do desperate things.
995
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,947
It doesn't matter
what company they keep.
996
00:38:00,989 --> 00:38:03,074
Why do you always believe
the worst in people?
997
00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:03,825
Who, me?
998
00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:06,161
Spend a few more years
in this place
999
00:38:06,202 --> 00:38:08,246
you'll be right there with us.
1000
00:38:08,288 --> 00:38:10,248
I like to think
I can do this job
1001
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:11,916
without becoming a cynic.
1002
00:38:11,958 --> 00:38:13,084
I'm not a cynic.
1003
00:38:13,126 --> 00:38:17,047
I get up every morning
hoping to find an honest man.
1004
00:38:17,088 --> 00:38:18,465
Then let's make sure
1005
00:38:18,506 --> 00:38:20,175
the punishment fits the crime.
1006
00:38:20,216 --> 00:38:21,885
If McGowan got three to six
1007
00:38:21,926 --> 00:38:25,013
and there's the least chance
he pushed Wylie into this
1008
00:38:25,055 --> 00:38:26,765
then Wylie shouldn't do
25 to life.
1009
00:38:26,806 --> 00:38:29,225
You're the boss.
1010
00:38:37,192 --> 00:38:39,069
Asking to meet
with the defendant
1011
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,446
the night before
you cross-examine him...
1012
00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:43,531
this is a first
even for you, Jack.
1013
00:38:43,573 --> 00:38:46,743
We have an offer.
1014
00:38:46,785 --> 00:38:50,455
Like I said, this is a first.
1015
00:38:50,497 --> 00:38:52,123
What is it?
1016
00:38:52,207 --> 00:38:55,168
121/////2 to 25.
1017
00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:56,378
Y-years?
1018
00:38:56,419 --> 00:39:01,174
You tried to kill
a judge.
1019
00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:04,928
Don't you understand
how it happened?
1020
00:39:04,969 --> 00:39:08,056
We heard what you tried
to sell to the jury.
1021
00:39:08,098 --> 00:39:10,100
After everything McGowan
1022
00:39:10,141 --> 00:39:12,477
supposedly said to you,
there's no way
1023
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,938
you expected him
to call it off.
1024
00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:17,315
Whatever pressures
you were under, Mr. Wylie
1025
00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:19,109
they don't excuse
your actions.
1026
00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:22,278
I'm assuming we have
blanket immunity in here?
1027
00:39:24,155 --> 00:39:26,908
Queen for a day.
1028
00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:29,536
Go ahead.
1029
00:39:30,954 --> 00:39:32,122
They were threatening me.
1030
00:39:32,163 --> 00:39:35,000
I didn't know
what else to do.
1031
00:39:35,041 --> 00:39:38,086
How about reporting it
to the authorities?
1032
00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:41,005
The authorities can't
protect you in here.
1033
00:39:41,047 --> 00:39:42,507
You could have
told someone
1034
00:39:42,590 --> 00:39:44,009
you had a change of heart.
1035
00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:45,468
Or you could have
tried to stop it.
1036
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:48,847
I was scared.
1037
00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:50,974
Too scared to tell
your own lawyer?
1038
00:39:58,356 --> 00:39:59,983
If he testifies
1039
00:40:00,025 --> 00:40:01,943
he told you, Danielle
1040
00:40:01,985 --> 00:40:05,030
we'll call you
to corroborate it.
1041
00:40:05,071 --> 00:40:08,199
You made no effort
to openly repudiate
the crime, Mr. Wylie.
1042
00:40:08,283 --> 00:40:10,660
The law's clear
on renunciation.
1043
00:40:10,702 --> 00:40:12,454
You can't make it out.
1044
00:40:12,495 --> 00:40:14,914
I think my lawyer's doing
pretty well.
1045
00:40:14,956 --> 00:40:17,208
All she's done is
create some sympathy.
1046
00:40:17,292 --> 00:40:18,501
Once I cross-examine you
1047
00:40:18,543 --> 00:40:23,256
the jury won't have
much of it left.
1048
00:40:26,051 --> 00:40:30,513
You'll spend the rest
of your life in prison.
1049
00:40:33,391 --> 00:40:37,562
If you're so confident, Jack,
why the offer?
1050
00:40:37,604 --> 00:40:42,067
In our minds
there's a sliver of doubt
1051
00:40:42,108 --> 00:40:44,986
that if Jimmy McGowan hadn't
been assigned
1052
00:40:45,028 --> 00:40:51,409
to your client's tier,
we wouldn't be here today.
1053
00:40:51,451 --> 00:40:52,494
You made some
1054
00:40:52,535 --> 00:40:55,413
foolish decisions,
Mr. Wylie.
1055
00:40:55,497 --> 00:40:57,540
Don't make another one.
1056
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,255
I heard you're cutting
a deal with Wylie.
1057
00:41:04,297 --> 00:41:05,632
That's right.
1058
00:41:05,673 --> 00:41:07,926
What's he getting?
1059
00:41:07,967 --> 00:41:09,177
121/////2 to 25.
1060
00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:10,261
That's outrageous.
1061
00:41:10,303 --> 00:41:13,390
I have given out more time
for narcotics possession.
1062
00:41:13,431 --> 00:41:16,518
That's well known.
1063
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:18,895
When Wylie took
a shot at me
1064
00:41:18,937 --> 00:41:22,565
he took a shot
at every judge
in the courthouse.
1065
00:41:22,607 --> 00:41:24,526
He'll be coming after
prosecutors next.
1066
00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,236
No matter how much time
Wylie gets
1067
00:41:26,277 --> 00:41:28,488
I don't think it's going
to deter the next maniac
1068
00:41:28,530 --> 00:41:30,407
and I also don't think
it's appropriate
1069
00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:32,909
for you to be here
putting in your two cents.
1070
00:41:32,951 --> 00:41:34,411
I am the victim in this case.
1071
00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:35,954
I should have been consulted.
1072
00:41:36,037 --> 00:41:36,955
Your feelings
1073
00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:39,040
toward this defendant
have been duly noted.
1074
00:41:39,082 --> 00:41:42,210
Are you questioning my
impartiality, Nora?
1075
00:41:42,252 --> 00:41:44,921
Everyone here
respects your courage
1076
00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:47,966
all the sacrifices that you
and your family have made.
1077
00:41:48,007 --> 00:41:50,301
We just come
from two different places.
1078
00:41:50,343 --> 00:41:52,220
I try to enforce the law.
1079
00:41:52,262 --> 00:41:54,139
You try to compromise it.
1080
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,307
It's called prosecutorial
discretion.
1081
00:41:56,349 --> 00:41:57,475
So you make
a bargain
1082
00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,310
with Jimmy McGowan,
then it backfires
1083
00:41:59,394 --> 00:42:01,271
and you have to cut a deal
with Wylie?
1084
00:42:01,313 --> 00:42:03,606
I'm not happy about McGowan.
1085
00:42:03,648 --> 00:42:06,985
But any judge
who reflexively imposes
1086
00:42:07,027 --> 00:42:09,195
the maximum in every case
1087
00:42:09,237 --> 00:42:13,033
just forces the
hard decisions
on the rest of us.
1088
00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:14,451
I changed this city!
1089
00:42:14,492 --> 00:42:16,161
In case you hadn't noticed it
1090
00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:18,163
you can walk down the streets
these days
1091
00:42:18,204 --> 00:42:20,623
without having to kick
a crack vial out of your way
1092
00:42:20,665 --> 00:42:22,709
to the sound of gunfire
in the background!
1093
00:42:22,751 --> 00:42:25,253
It'll make a great sound bite
one day.
1094
00:42:25,295 --> 00:42:28,173
I'm still not changing
my decision about Wylie.
1095
00:42:28,256 --> 00:42:29,340
Do whatever you want.
1096
00:42:29,382 --> 00:42:32,510
I still have him in front
of me on securities fraud.
1097
00:42:32,552 --> 00:42:35,972
That indictment was covered
by the plea bargain.
1098
00:42:36,014 --> 00:42:39,768
How can you possibly think
that's appropriate?!
1099
00:42:39,809 --> 00:42:42,145
It's my job.
1100
00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:45,523
Until someone else is
sitting in this chair
1101
00:42:45,565 --> 00:42:49,152
I'll continue to do
what I think is right.
1102
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:02,540
Judge Karlin called.
1103
00:43:02,582 --> 00:43:05,502
She wants to make
a victim impact statement
1104
00:43:05,543 --> 00:43:07,379
at Wylie's sentencing.
1105
00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:09,381
That's her right.
1106
00:43:09,422 --> 00:43:12,217
So all things
being equal
1107
00:43:12,258 --> 00:43:13,176
is Wylie a killer?
1108
00:43:13,218 --> 00:43:14,552
It's a tough question.
1109
00:43:14,636 --> 00:43:16,012
Does the man make Rikers
1110
00:43:16,054 --> 00:43:17,681
or does Rikers
make the man?
1111
00:43:17,722 --> 00:43:19,182
I think Judge Karlin
1112
00:43:19,224 --> 00:43:21,059
had something
to do with it.
1113
00:43:21,142 --> 00:43:22,060
Funny thing is
1114
00:43:22,143 --> 00:43:23,561
Wylie got away from her.
1115
00:43:23,603 --> 00:43:26,272
It's what he's been trying
to do all along.
1116
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:53,550
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