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the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Come on, Poppy
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it's too damn cold
out here for this.
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Too cold?
What'd I raise here
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a man or a ratoncito?
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Actually, you didn't
raise me at all.
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Mommy raised me.
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You were always
too busy working.
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Yeah, putting clothes
on everybody's back
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taking care
of the family.
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Just be quiet now.
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You're scaring
away my fish.
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Look, can we just go over
to Gristedes and buy some?
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I promise to let
you tell everybody
you caught it, okay?
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When you do a job,
you do it right.
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Oh, oh.
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I think I got a nibble.
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Damn, it's heavy.
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It's probably
all the mercury.
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Give me a hand here,
hurry up.
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Dios mio, Pa.
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So what's the story,
girl meets bridge?
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Girl meets bullet,
then girl meets river.
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I love a happy ending.
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Any idea
how long ago?
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Hard to say.
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With the bloating
and decomposition
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three, maybe four weeks.
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You didn't find any ID
floating around, did you?
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No, just the clothes
she went in with.
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Looks like somebody did
a number on her face.
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Something, more likely.
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Fish... they go
for the eyes first.
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Victim's between
25 and 35, five
feet, six inches.
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Death was caused by a
single .22 caliber slug
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to the left
temporal region.
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Blow back.
Up close and personal.
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Any sign of sexual assault?
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That long in the river,
I couldn't tell you.
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What about her clothes?
Anything there?
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Mass-manufactured;
nothing unusual.
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You might check out
her belt buckle though.
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Looks hand-crafted.
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There's an insignia
stamped into the silver.
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Could be
Native American.
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American Indian museum downtown
might give us a leg up.
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Jane Doe with a buckle.
Another promising start.
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Actually, I'm thinking
more like Jane Dietrich.
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Given her dental work
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she's probably
a German national.
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How do you know that?
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Stateside metal crowns
are usually custom-made
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from gold or silver.
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Hers are generically stamped
out of stainless steel.
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We don't do that?
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Couple of quack dentists
in Texas tried
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but this technique's
definitely German.
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We figure she either
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emigrated to the U.S.
or she came here on
a tourist visa.
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You talk
with the Consulate?
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Mm-hmm--
no German nationals
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reported missing
in New York State.
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Now with Argentina, it's
a whole different story.
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What about travel visas?
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Over 6,000 in the
past three months.
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Hey, the dollar's down.
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And of those,
2,346 went to females
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between the ages
of 25 and 35.
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It'll take us
till Oktoberfest
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to run through
all of them.
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That's it?
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We sent her
dental records
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to the Fatherland.
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That could take months.
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In the meantime, let's
work with what we've got.
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Littlemoon Birdsong?
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If this is about
those parking tickets
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I was going to send a check
tomorrow, I swear.
Take it easy.
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You're not going
to lose your micro-bus.
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We're Homicide.
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Homicide?
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The curator at
the Indian Museum
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thought this might
be your work.
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Yeah, that's mine.
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I did a series of them
last year
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but I don't understand
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what this has to do
with a homicide.
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The victim was
wearing that buckle
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when she was killed.
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Actually, it's an
Apache peace symbol.
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Didn't protect
them much, either.
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We're going to need a
list of your customers.
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I don't do retail.
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Credit card receipts,
sales tax, marketing plans...
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a little too time consuming.
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So where do you sell
your work?
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A little boutique
in Chelsea.
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I let them deal with
the headaches now.
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I wish we all could.
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Thanks.
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Littlemoon Birdsong, my ass.
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Her name's Linda Epstein
from Cedarhurst.
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Different tribe altogether.
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Yeah. I sold this.
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It's some sort
of peace thing.
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We're trying to locate
the woman who may
have bought it.
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You remember everyone
you arrest, Detective?
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She might've had
a German accent.
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Everybody's got
an accent these days.
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Okay, what about
credit card records,
sales receipts?
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You understand
we're mostly a cash business.
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We're not interested
in your relationship
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with the tax collector,
Miss Martin.
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We just want to know
who bought the buckle.
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Well, a lot of our customers
sign our mailing list.
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Would that do it?
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We're going to
need everything.
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Now, the list
I need back next week.
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We're sending out a new mailer.
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Indonesian Death Masks.
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Guys, here's
the missing persons--
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the whole tristate area.
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They go back
six months, right?
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Just like you
asked, Detective.
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Thank you.
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Another no answer.
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That makes seven.
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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Thanks, anyway.
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Yeah, I'll tell him.
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Chessie Shaw,
New Milford, New Jersey
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alive and well.
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You tell her
about the Death Masks?
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That's everybody
on my list.
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What does that
leave us with?
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That's seven no answers,
a disconnect
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and five
unlisted numbers.
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Any luck so far?
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I figure either
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our Lady of the Hudson
wasn't on the mailing list
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or the belt buckle was a gift.
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Here's something.
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Karen Hall.
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Investigator
in the New York State
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Attorney General's
Criminal Division upstate.
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Disappeared
six weeks ago.
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That could be
my Albany disconnect.
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Same age and height.
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The hair color's similar
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but I thought we were looking
for a German national.
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Says in her bio her father
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was a bird Colonel
in the Army stationed in...
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Germany.
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Eight years.
Moved to Albany in '89.
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We were army brats
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Baden Spa, Berlin.
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My sisters and me,
we spent our childhoods
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being dragged from base to base.
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Karen was the only one
who seemed to enjoy it.
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She loved meeting new people.
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When was
the last time
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you had contact
with your sister?
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The day she disappeared.
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Karen was in Manhattan
on a work assignment.
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We spoke on the phone.
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I didn't realize it would be
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the last time
I'd hear her voice.
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When you say "work assignment"
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you mean for
the Attorney General's office?
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Right.
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Any idea what
she was working on?
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She didn't talk
about her job much.
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She took it seriously though.
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What time was it
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when you spoke to her?
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Maybe 5:00, 5:30.
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Did she say where she was?
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She was on
her cell phone.
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I thought maybe
we could have an early dinner
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but Karen said it would
have to be another time.
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She was heading
to catch the Amtrak
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back to Albany.
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You know, I told all this
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to the State Troopers
when they were here.
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This is just
routine, Mr. Hall.
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Did Karen have
any friends
in Manhattan?
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Somebody who might've changed
her mind about going home?
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She'd only been to the city
maybe once or twice.
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She didn't know anyone
here outside of work.
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And you reported her missing
the following Monday?
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She was supposed
to go furniture shopping
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with Nancy in Rhinebeck
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but she never showed up.
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You guys got any idea
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who did this to her?
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We're working on it, Mr. Hall.
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Well, work hard.
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'Cause Karen was
the baby of the family.
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She was the favorite, you know?
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And I was her big brother.
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Karen started with
the office's upstate division
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five years ago
as a paralegal in
Mr. Conroy's bureau.
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When did she
get the bump up
to investigator?
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I signed off on her promotion
only six months ago
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which is what makes
what happened such a waste.
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Karen was something
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of a project
in the bureau.
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Project?
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It was obvious
from the beginning
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that she had a real
feel for the work.
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It all came naturally to her.
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Karen just lacked some
of the formal training
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and education she needed
to move forward.
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Eventually,
it all came together.
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You have any
working theories?
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Had
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until her body turned up
in Manhattan.
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We have a witness
that puts her
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in the Albany train station
at 9:30 that night.
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And confirms her
brother's story
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that she was taking
the 6:45 from Manhattan.
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Timing worked.
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Ms. Shore, we're going to need
to follow up on the interviews.
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Of course.
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I'll help you guys out
with anything you need.
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The car was locked.
No sign of a break-in.
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We figured
she was snatched
somewhere between
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the platform
and the parking lot.
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I would've come to
the same conclusion.
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Either of you know
Miss Hall personally?
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Just to say hello.
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I worked a case
with her once
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when she
was a paralegal.
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She was good people.
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You find any signs
of personal problems
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while you were
knocking around?
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No, no debts
no drugs, no gambling.
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Nothing out
of the ordinary.
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So no death threats, huh?
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She have
any overdue library books
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in her apartment?
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Just a half-starved
cocker spaniel
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and a closet full of clothes.
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It was pretty
much a cold trail
after the station.
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What about
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this newsstand guy
that saw her that night?
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Hard-working.
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Turkish.
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Been at the station
over ten years.
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We're going to need
to talk to him.
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I'll run you
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right over now
if you want.
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I told the truth.
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Nothing but the truth.
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Nobody's accusing you
of lying, Mr. Hoca.
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Take your time, sir.
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00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,724
This lady in the picture
263
00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:00,517
she came in
on the train
264
00:10:00,558 --> 00:10:03,103
on the night
of the 19th of February
265
00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:05,605
and bought magazines
in my kiosk.
266
00:10:05,647 --> 00:10:07,232
Then she walk away
267
00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:10,735
out that...
out that door?
268
00:10:10,777 --> 00:10:13,738
Are you asking
or telling?
269
00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:15,156
I think this is the truth.
270
00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:17,367
Yeah, but you didn't
actually see her
271
00:10:17,409 --> 00:10:18,785
get off the train,
right?
272
00:10:18,827 --> 00:10:19,953
Me? No.
273
00:10:19,995 --> 00:10:21,287
The troopers
274
00:10:21,329 --> 00:10:23,039
they say she
was on the train.
275
00:10:23,081 --> 00:10:25,625
Can you describe
this woman, Mr. Hoca?
276
00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:30,588
Blond hair, middle height...
middle weight.
277
00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:34,092
Was she dragging
a flower travel bag?
278
00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:36,136
You know the kind
you wheel around?
279
00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:38,638
Yes, I remember. I see that.
280
00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:41,725
Thank you very much, sir.
281
00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:44,686
It's okay? I did good?
282
00:10:44,728 --> 00:10:46,813
Oh, you did fine.
283
00:10:49,107 --> 00:10:50,692
He's the most
convincing witness
284
00:10:50,734 --> 00:10:51,568
I've heard since
Kato Kaelin.
285
00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:53,737
He seemed solid
when we interviewed him.
286
00:10:53,778 --> 00:10:55,780
Who else did you talk to
during your investigation?
287
00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:57,657
Hey, we did
our damn job.
288
00:10:57,699 --> 00:10:59,284
Did you canvass
the damn area?
289
00:10:59,326 --> 00:11:01,619
Did you talk
to the regular
damn commuters?
290
00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:02,620
Somebody on that train
291
00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:03,747
must've remembered
seeing her.
292
00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:06,624
Did you talk to
the conductors,
the other vendors?
293
00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:07,917
Hey, we talked
to everybody, okay?
294
00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:09,669
The Turk was the
only one who saw her.
295
00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:11,796
And that didn't
tell you something?
296
00:11:11,838 --> 00:11:16,801
Look, I tell you something,
it stays off the record.
297
00:11:16,843 --> 00:11:18,845
We're all cops here, man.
298
00:11:18,887 --> 00:11:21,681
Fact is, Jim and I
had our own doubts.
299
00:11:21,723 --> 00:11:22,724
Doubts about what?
300
00:11:22,766 --> 00:11:25,060
About the direction
the case was being steered
301
00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:26,936
by the AG's office.
302
00:11:26,978 --> 00:11:28,396
What direction was that?
303
00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:29,439
My personal opinion?
304
00:11:29,481 --> 00:11:31,900
And I don't
have any evidence
to support this...
305
00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:33,151
It's all right, I hear you.
306
00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:34,944
They glommed onto
the train snatch theory
307
00:11:34,986 --> 00:11:36,112
for the wrong reasons.
308
00:11:36,154 --> 00:11:37,781
And the right
reasons would be...?
309
00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:38,782
Let's just say
310
00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:39,866
I don't think the AG
311
00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:42,786
wanted to face the possibility
that Karen Hall's killer
312
00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:44,788
might be some guy
from one of their own
313
00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:45,872
case files.
314
00:11:52,587 --> 00:11:54,214
Well, naturally
we considered the possibility
315
00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:55,131
it was work-related
316
00:11:55,173 --> 00:11:56,966
but we couldn't uncover
any hard evidence
317
00:11:57,008 --> 00:11:58,051
to support the theory.
318
00:11:58,093 --> 00:12:00,095
With all due respect,
Mr. Conroy
319
00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:01,596
how hard did you consider it?
320
00:12:01,638 --> 00:12:03,473
Well, we pulled our case files.
321
00:12:03,515 --> 00:12:05,266
We examined every possibility
322
00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:08,269
but, uh, all the evidence
pointed back to Albany.
323
00:12:08,311 --> 00:12:10,355
We're going to need to go over
all of her files--
324
00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:12,107
everything she was working on
at the time.
325
00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:14,401
Some of those cases
are still pending.
326
00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,611
We're not going to compromise
any of my investigations
327
00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:17,612
are we, Lieutenant?
328
00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:20,198
You can count on our discretion.
329
00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,866
I don't see a problem.
330
00:12:21,950 --> 00:12:23,535
I'll have
some of those case files
331
00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:26,663
uh, copied and sent off
to your precinct.
332
00:12:26,705 --> 00:12:27,747
Well, I'd like to get
my men started
333
00:12:27,789 --> 00:12:30,458
on the case she was working
the day she disappeared.
334
00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:31,459
Alec...
335
00:12:31,501 --> 00:12:33,003
Uh, Nate Richards.
336
00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:34,045
Uh, nursing home fraud.
337
00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,380
It was a joint prosecution
338
00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:36,339
with the Feds.
339
00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:38,925
And Karen Hall was sent
to Manhattan for what?
340
00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:40,093
Uh, we had
341
00:12:40,135 --> 00:12:41,094
a reluctant witness.
342
00:12:41,136 --> 00:12:42,220
I wanted Karen to hold her hand.
343
00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:43,680
Why was the
witness reluctant?
344
00:12:43,722 --> 00:12:45,098
Defendant's ex.
345
00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:47,183
She was having second thoughts
about testifying
346
00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:48,351
against him.
347
00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:49,686
And that aroused no suspicion?
348
00:12:49,728 --> 00:12:52,063
We had Richards interviewed
extensively.
349
00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:53,023
It was
a dead end
350
00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:55,942
but listen, I understand
you have a job to do.
351
00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:58,111
Uh, I could make a call
to the facility.
352
00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:01,197
Your guys are certainly welcome
to take a stab at him.
353
00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:05,076
Like I told the guy
from the AG's office
354
00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:07,662
I wouldn't know Karen Hall
if I fell over the broad.
355
00:13:07,704 --> 00:13:08,747
Interesting
choice of words.
356
00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:12,000
Miss Hall was one of the
investigators on your case.
357
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,084
I never laid eyes on her.
358
00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:15,003
I mean, what is it
with you guys?
359
00:13:15,003 --> 00:13:16,713
She was working
with Angela Cofresta
360
00:13:16,755 --> 00:13:18,381
at the time
of her disappearance.
361
00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:20,091
You remember Angela?
362
00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,552
Ah, bitch gave me up
when I wouldn't
363
00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:23,553
leave my wife.
364
00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:25,221
Imagine that.
365
00:13:25,263 --> 00:13:28,183
We pulled your sheet, Nate.
366
00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:30,226
You had a little domestic
history with this woman.
367
00:13:30,268 --> 00:13:32,020
Angela dropped
those charges.
368
00:13:32,062 --> 00:13:34,439
Yeah. We noticed that, too.
369
00:13:34,481 --> 00:13:37,108
'Cause you smacked her around
a little bit, right?
370
00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,694
Only this time
they gave her a baby-sitter.
371
00:13:39,736 --> 00:13:42,072
I was looking at 26 months
on that fraud charge.
372
00:13:42,113 --> 00:13:44,157
You think I'm going to threaten
a federal witness?
373
00:13:44,199 --> 00:13:45,742
Cap a state
investigator?
374
00:13:45,784 --> 00:13:49,037
can't live with them,
can't kill them, huh, Nate?
375
00:13:49,079 --> 00:13:50,163
You got any idea how far
376
00:13:50,205 --> 00:13:52,624
that would push me along
on the sentencing guidelines?
377
00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:55,377
I mean, I'd need a nursing home
myself by the time I got out.
378
00:13:55,418 --> 00:13:57,045
Can you account
for your whereabouts
379
00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:58,129
on the night of February 19?
380
00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:02,217
Yeah. Where every good defendant
is supposed to be--
381
00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:05,053
in my lawyer's office.
382
00:14:05,095 --> 00:14:08,264
Testifying against Nate was
the hardest thing I ever did.
383
00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:09,391
I was scared of him.
384
00:14:09,432 --> 00:14:11,142
But you went through
with it.
385
00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,310
Yeah.
386
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,229
I went through with it.
387
00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:17,315
Karen made me think
about all those old people
388
00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:19,150
how they were suffering.
389
00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:22,153
I never thought about it
like that before.
390
00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:24,489
Miss Cofresta, you had
a meeting with Miss Hall
391
00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:26,783
at around 2:00 p.m.
the day she disappeared?
392
00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:28,201
We talked a lot
on the phone.
393
00:14:28,243 --> 00:14:30,245
Karen came down
just to be with me.
394
00:14:30,286 --> 00:14:32,038
What'd you talk about?
395
00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,082
Mostly stuff
about the case
396
00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:35,625
going over stuff.
397
00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:37,752
And we talked
about men--
398
00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,504
older men,
married men.
399
00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:41,589
How they try
to control you.
400
00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:43,341
She really understood.
401
00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:45,510
Did she talk about the men
in her life?
402
00:14:45,552 --> 00:14:47,178
No, not really
403
00:14:47,262 --> 00:14:48,346
but I kind of
got the feeling
404
00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:50,098
she was dating
an older guy, too.
405
00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:51,349
She mention anything
about him?
406
00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:52,684
A name?
407
00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:54,102
Anything at all?
408
00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:55,311
Just that
it was over.
409
00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:56,813
What time
did she leave?
410
00:14:56,855 --> 00:15:00,525
Maybe 4:00, I think.
411
00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,861
It was a long time ago,
you know?
412
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,446
I do remember she said
413
00:15:04,487 --> 00:15:07,240
she had a late meeting
in the city that night
414
00:15:07,282 --> 00:15:11,244
and I could call her if
I started stressing out again.
415
00:15:11,286 --> 00:15:14,664
Maybe if I did,
she'd still be alive.
416
00:15:14,706 --> 00:15:16,207
She was staying late in town?
417
00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,293
Told her brother
she had to get
back to Albany
418
00:15:18,335 --> 00:15:19,377
to take care of her dog.
419
00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,504
She don't strike me as the type
to lie to her brother.
420
00:15:21,546 --> 00:15:23,173
Or to let her dog
starve to death.
421
00:15:23,214 --> 00:15:24,299
Maybe something
came up at work.
422
00:15:24,341 --> 00:15:26,092
You'd think we'd have heard
about it.
423
00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:27,635
Hey, you'd think.
424
00:15:27,677 --> 00:15:29,721
I want to work
for the AG's office
425
00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:30,889
when I grow up.
426
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,557
The Attorney General
investigated
427
00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:35,310
the illegal billing practices
at the Klensch Agency.
428
00:15:35,351 --> 00:15:38,229
Karen Hall personally
interviewed 17 runway models.
429
00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,564
Maybe we should follow-up.
430
00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:41,399
It looks like Conroy
was right on.
431
00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,194
From what I'm seeing,
there's nothing life or death
432
00:15:44,235 --> 00:15:45,362
in these case files.
433
00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:47,155
Hey, Ed, when did Conroy say
434
00:15:47,197 --> 00:15:50,158
Karen got her first field
assignment to the big city?
435
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,409
A couple months back.
436
00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,244
And her brother
thought she was
437
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:55,413
still getting
her bearings
around town.
438
00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:56,414
Right.
439
00:15:56,456 --> 00:15:57,582
So, how come
she's got
440
00:15:57,624 --> 00:15:59,250
three Amtrak ticket stubs
441
00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,211
round-trip,
Albany to New York
442
00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:02,796
going back more than a year?
443
00:16:02,837 --> 00:16:04,255
She goes down to the Big Apple
444
00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:05,340
she keeps it
from her big brother
445
00:16:05,382 --> 00:16:06,549
and everyone else in her life.
446
00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:07,801
That can only mean one thing.
447
00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:09,803
A special friend?
448
00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:11,388
Mm-hmm.
449
00:16:13,682 --> 00:16:15,266
Karen had no time
for boyfriends.
450
00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:16,226
She was so busy with work.
451
00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:17,560
God knows we tried
452
00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:19,437
but, uh, it was always
one thing or another.
453
00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:21,731
Even if she had a boyfriend,
she wouldn't have told me.
454
00:16:21,773 --> 00:16:22,691
With the age difference
455
00:16:22,732 --> 00:16:24,943
it was more like
a father-daughter thing with us.
456
00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:28,363
Karen was seeing someone.
457
00:16:28,405 --> 00:16:30,156
Did she mention a name?
458
00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:30,949
She told you that?
459
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,284
She didn't want
people to know.
460
00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:34,411
We're "people"?
461
00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,830
Did she tell you
who she was seeing?
462
00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:39,666
No... but he was married.
463
00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:41,167
Karen was going
with a married guy?
464
00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:42,210
She told you that?
465
00:16:42,252 --> 00:16:43,086
She said it was over.
466
00:16:43,128 --> 00:16:45,338
And she never
mentioned a name?
467
00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:47,465
She wouldn't say anything
about him.
468
00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,301
She didn't want people at work
to find out.
469
00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:52,345
Why didn't you tell all
this to the troopers
470
00:16:52,387 --> 00:16:53,304
when she disappeared?
471
00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:54,848
I did.
472
00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:59,185
I told the investigators,
but I didn't know who it was
473
00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:03,440
and Karen said it'd been over
for a while.
474
00:17:03,481 --> 00:17:05,483
So, you're thinking
it may be a romance gone sour?
475
00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:06,609
One of the sisters thinks
476
00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,236
it might have been
an office thing.
477
00:17:08,278 --> 00:17:09,487
Did you call Albany
and ask around?
478
00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:10,613
Yeah. No luck.
479
00:17:10,655 --> 00:17:12,449
It seems the lady
was tight-lipped
480
00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:15,368
so we pulled
all of her personal
credit card receipts
481
00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:16,369
going back a year.
482
00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:19,330
Hotel, restaurant charges
from all over the city
483
00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:20,290
last ten months.
484
00:17:20,332 --> 00:17:21,458
Busy girl.
485
00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:23,877
Up until a
month before
she disappeared.
486
00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:26,629
Right about the time Sis
says the romance cooled.
487
00:17:26,671 --> 00:17:27,881
One, two, three, four
488
00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:29,883
five visits to Caverna?
489
00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,009
You know it?
490
00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:36,723
Yeah. It's a quiet little place
over on 21st and Tenth.
491
00:17:36,765 --> 00:17:38,391
You say she was
a customer?
492
00:17:38,433 --> 00:17:40,810
Yeah. Five or six times
that we know of.
493
00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:42,771
Mm, perhaps you can
come back tomorrow
494
00:17:42,812 --> 00:17:43,480
speak with
the maitre d'?
495
00:17:43,521 --> 00:17:45,315
I'm usually in
the back office.
496
00:17:45,357 --> 00:17:46,858
Why can't we speak
to the maitre d' now?
497
00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:48,401
Called in sick
498
00:17:48,443 --> 00:17:51,279
and we are in the middle
of our busiest seating.
499
00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:54,407
Well, we're in the middle of
a busy homicide investigation.
500
00:17:54,449 --> 00:17:56,701
Let me get Roberto,
our head waiter.
501
00:17:56,743 --> 00:17:57,994
Maybe he can help you.
502
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,624
These gentlemen
are with the
police, Roberto.
503
00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:05,377
They'd like to see
if you could help
identify a photograph.
504
00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:06,711
Ah, absolutely.
505
00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:08,380
Ah, si. That's
Signorina Hall.
506
00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,840
Yeah, used to come here
with her gentleman friend
507
00:18:10,882 --> 00:18:12,842
but, uh, not so much anymore.
508
00:18:12,884 --> 00:18:16,513
You wouldn't happen to remember
this gentleman friend's name?
509
00:18:16,554 --> 00:18:17,514
Ah, sure, sure.
510
00:18:17,555 --> 00:18:19,474
First rule
of ristorante business, eh?
511
00:18:19,516 --> 00:18:20,517
Never forget a name.
512
00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:22,769
It's, um...
A-Alfredo.
513
00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:24,854
No, Arturo.
514
00:18:24,896 --> 00:18:26,815
Uh... Alexandro.
515
00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:30,694
No. Alec. Si. Alec, uh, Conroy.
516
00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:33,071
Alec Conroy?
517
00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:35,699
He and the signorina
always the deuce in the corner.
518
00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:39,536
Very private, uh,
very romantic, huh?
519
00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:42,706
Very nice.
520
00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:46,918
Alec Conroy.
521
00:18:47,001 --> 00:18:49,546
The heir-apparent
at the AG's office?
522
00:18:49,587 --> 00:18:51,047
How well do you
really know him?
523
00:18:51,089 --> 00:18:52,882
He got organized
crime convictions
524
00:18:52,924 --> 00:18:55,719
that everyone else thought
were impossible
525
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,804
including myself.
526
00:18:57,846 --> 00:18:59,055
In addition to which
527
00:18:59,097 --> 00:19:01,683
I went to law school
with his boss.
528
00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:02,851
Isabelle Shore.
529
00:19:02,892 --> 00:19:04,352
There's a straight arrow.
530
00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:05,854
As straight as they come.
531
00:19:05,895 --> 00:19:07,397
If she suspected anything
532
00:19:07,439 --> 00:19:09,733
she never would have given him
the nod.
533
00:19:09,774 --> 00:19:11,276
According to Briscoe
and Green
534
00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:13,528
Conroy kept his investigators
pursuing leads
535
00:19:13,570 --> 00:19:15,321
he had to know
would never pay off
536
00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:18,908
and he concealed
his relationship
with the Hall girl.
537
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:20,869
A married ex-boyfriend?
538
00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:23,538
That would have been
at the top of the
troopers' hit list.
539
00:19:23,538 --> 00:19:24,706
Conroy told them
540
00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:26,374
the romance angle
was a dead end.
541
00:19:26,416 --> 00:19:27,876
While he kept
them in the dark
542
00:19:27,917 --> 00:19:29,586
about his affair
with the victim.
543
00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:32,797
This man is next in line
at the Criminal Division.
544
00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:35,550
I'm not going to drag him out
in handcuffs
545
00:19:35,592 --> 00:19:37,594
because he concealed an affair.
546
00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:38,762
He did more than
conceal it, Nora.
547
00:19:38,803 --> 00:19:41,890
He told Karen Hall's sister
there was no office romance
548
00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:43,558
and then he turned
the investigation
549
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,809
to a less than
credible witness
550
00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:46,895
who put her in Albany.
551
00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:50,899
Taken as a whole, his conduct
does evince a guilty mind.
552
00:19:52,942 --> 00:19:54,569
What do you want to do?
553
00:19:54,611 --> 00:19:56,780
Look him in the eye
and ask him the question.
554
00:19:59,741 --> 00:20:02,911
I killed Karen Hall because
I was having an affair with her
555
00:20:02,952 --> 00:20:04,913
then stonewalled
the investigation?
556
00:20:06,081 --> 00:20:07,874
It's absurd.
557
00:20:07,916 --> 00:20:09,584
Is there another
explanation?
558
00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:10,752
Yes.
559
00:20:10,794 --> 00:20:11,961
The investigation
560
00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:13,755
into Karen's disappearance
went nowhere
561
00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:15,590
because there was nowhere
for it to go.
562
00:20:15,632 --> 00:20:16,674
It's as simple as that.
563
00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:18,343
Especially not
with a cover story
564
00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:19,552
about a witness in Albany.
565
00:20:19,594 --> 00:20:21,805
The newsstand vendor told
the troopers she was there.
566
00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,014
I relied on that.
567
00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,766
They don't
see it that way.
568
00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:25,767
Really?
569
00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:28,436
Well, their activity reports
say they do.
570
00:20:28,478 --> 00:20:30,814
Activity reports yousupervised.
571
00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:32,649
I have the distinct feeling
572
00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:35,694
that somebody's about
to read me my rights.
573
00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:38,488
Do you need your rights read,
Mr. Conroy?
574
00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:43,702
Off the record?
575
00:20:45,495 --> 00:20:47,831
Okay, on the record then.
576
00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:50,709
Karen and I had been involved.
577
00:20:50,792 --> 00:20:51,960
Past tense.
578
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,044
I broke it off.
579
00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:55,422
End of story.
580
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:57,007
I assume you can tell us
where you were
581
00:20:57,048 --> 00:20:58,383
the night she disappeared?
582
00:20:58,425 --> 00:20:59,843
We already know
it wasn't in Albany.
583
00:20:59,884 --> 00:21:02,887
I wouldn't have taken it
on faith, either.
584
00:21:02,971 --> 00:21:04,681
I was with someone else.
585
00:21:04,723 --> 00:21:06,808
Not your wife.
586
00:21:06,850 --> 00:21:10,019
My wife and I weren't together
at the time.
587
00:21:10,061 --> 00:21:11,855
I had my own place.
588
00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:13,982
Now, if that offends
your long-horn
589
00:21:14,024 --> 00:21:16,526
self-righteous sense
of right and wrong
590
00:21:16,568 --> 00:21:18,528
then so be it.
591
00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:20,697
What offends us
is withholding information
592
00:21:20,739 --> 00:21:22,365
from an investigation.
593
00:21:22,407 --> 00:21:24,409
If I go public
with my relationship with Karen
594
00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:26,036
I jeopardize cases,
maybe even my career.
595
00:21:26,077 --> 00:21:27,537
I wasn't about to do that...
596
00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:30,165
not when I had an alibi.
597
00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:34,836
Alec come over about 5:00, 5:30.
598
00:21:34,836 --> 00:21:35,920
I made dinner.
599
00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:42,385
Um, we took a walk, read a bit,
and then turned in.
600
00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:44,012
And when did he leave?
601
00:21:44,054 --> 00:21:46,473
Around 10:00
the next morning.
602
00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:48,683
Can anyone else verify that?
603
00:21:48,725 --> 00:21:52,896
I don't see why I should
be answering these questions.
604
00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:54,647
Well, because
you've been noticed
605
00:21:54,689 --> 00:21:55,774
as an alibi witness.
606
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,985
That gives me the right
to verify Mr. Conroy's story.
607
00:21:59,027 --> 00:22:03,031
Alec never loved that girl.
608
00:22:03,073 --> 00:22:04,199
So you know about the affair?
609
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,200
I'm not a fool
610
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,701
Miss Carmichael.
611
00:22:06,743 --> 00:22:10,080
I know there are things
that Alec wants
612
00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:12,082
that I can't give him.
613
00:22:12,123 --> 00:22:14,876
I've been with him 12 years.
614
00:22:14,918 --> 00:22:17,879
He always comes back in the end.
615
00:22:17,879 --> 00:22:21,966
I understand he reconciled
with his wife.
616
00:22:25,929 --> 00:22:28,598
Alec was right about you.
617
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,226
Houston, isn't it?
618
00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,103
Dallas.
619
00:22:33,144 --> 00:22:35,021
So he's talked to you?
620
00:22:35,063 --> 00:22:38,942
If you think Alec was in love
with this girl
621
00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:42,946
that he killed her
because of it, you're wrong.
622
00:22:42,988 --> 00:22:46,491
Because he was with you, right?
623
00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:51,705
Have you ever seen Alec
in court, Miss Carmichael?
624
00:22:51,746 --> 00:22:53,999
No, I haven't had the pleasure.
625
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,792
Well, you should
626
00:22:55,834 --> 00:22:57,794
because then you would know.
627
00:22:57,836 --> 00:23:00,672
Alec Conroy
doesn't fear anything.
628
00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:04,050
She's lying, Jack, I know it
629
00:23:04,092 --> 00:23:07,178
and the way she idolizes
Conroy, it's just creepy
630
00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:10,015
like he's got some
kind of hold over her.
631
00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,600
If what the police
are saying is true
632
00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:14,811
Conroy's been able
to manipulate
633
00:23:14,853 --> 00:23:16,980
an entire
murder investigation.
634
00:23:17,022 --> 00:23:18,982
Why not an alibi witness?
635
00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:21,109
Anything turn up
with Marner's doorman?
636
00:23:21,151 --> 00:23:23,653
They can't confirm Conroy
was there that night
637
00:23:23,695 --> 00:23:25,488
but they can't
dispute it, either.
638
00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:27,615
Still leaves us
without probable cause
639
00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,159
for a search warrant.
640
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,785
Well, we might
be getting close.
641
00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:33,163
The cops went over to
Conroy's apartment building.
642
00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:34,956
Anything?
643
00:23:34,956 --> 00:23:37,000
There was no sighting
of him that night
644
00:23:37,042 --> 00:23:38,626
but the concierge
let it slip
645
00:23:38,668 --> 00:23:40,795
that a few days after
Karen Hall's murder
646
00:23:40,837 --> 00:23:43,048
Mrs. Conroy set down
specific instructions
647
00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:45,133
not to let Conroy
up to the apartment
648
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:47,594
under any circumstances.
649
00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:50,680
One month after he supposedly
broke off the affair
650
00:23:50,722 --> 00:23:54,059
his wife suddenly bars him
from their apartment. Why?
651
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,185
She was afraid of something.
652
00:23:55,226 --> 00:23:56,728
Or someone.
653
00:23:56,811 --> 00:23:58,855
Yeah, but even if it's
true, they've reconciled.
654
00:23:58,897 --> 00:24:00,315
I doubt she'll tell
us anything now.
655
00:24:00,357 --> 00:24:04,819
Maybe there's someone else
she'll talk to.
656
00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:08,698
Alec is a suspect
657
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:10,742
in this
girl's murder.
658
00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:12,327
It's not possible.
659
00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:14,162
He wouldn't.
660
00:24:14,204 --> 00:24:15,830
You must have had
some suspicion.
661
00:24:15,872 --> 00:24:17,791
Why else leave
specific instructions
662
00:24:17,832 --> 00:24:19,209
your husband not be allowed
663
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:20,585
into your home?
664
00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:22,337
Alec still had
his own apartment.
665
00:24:22,379 --> 00:24:24,172
You left the same
instructions
666
00:24:24,214 --> 00:24:26,007
at your children's
school.
667
00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:29,177
Where are the kids?
668
00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:32,180
With my parents.
669
00:24:32,222 --> 00:24:34,099
Why?
670
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:37,143
Are you afraid of your husband,
Mrs. Conroy?
671
00:24:37,185 --> 00:24:40,063
I don't see how my relationship
with my husband
672
00:24:40,105 --> 00:24:41,690
is any of your business.
673
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:43,149
Either of yours.
674
00:24:43,191 --> 00:24:46,027
This is very
hard for me, too.
675
00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:48,989
Alec and I worked
side by side
676
00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:50,198
every day.
677
00:24:50,198 --> 00:24:52,033
I respected him
678
00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:53,076
and I trusted him.
679
00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:53,952
But this is no good.
680
00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:56,830
We're not going to be
able to protect him.
681
00:24:56,871 --> 00:24:58,665
He's getting help, Isabelle.
682
00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:00,625
He really is trying this time.
683
00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:01,918
If he killed her
684
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,753
nothing will ever
be right again
685
00:25:03,795 --> 00:25:05,213
until he takes
responsibility
686
00:25:05,255 --> 00:25:06,715
for it.
687
00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:08,133
How long
688
00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,635
can you keep your children away,
Mrs. Conroy?
689
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:22,272
We talked about divorcing
a few times...
690
00:25:22,314 --> 00:25:26,317
but this last time,
I'd really decided.
691
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,071
When I told him,
Alec just snapped.
692
00:25:30,113 --> 00:25:35,410
He started accusing this girl
of destroying our family.
693
00:25:35,452 --> 00:25:37,912
The more I tried
to explain
694
00:25:37,954 --> 00:25:39,748
the angrier
he became.
695
00:25:39,748 --> 00:25:42,876
I got so scared.
696
00:25:42,917 --> 00:25:47,255
I thought if I went with Alec
to his therapist
697
00:25:47,297 --> 00:25:49,132
it might be easier.
698
00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:51,801
That's when I found out.
699
00:25:51,843 --> 00:25:55,180
Found out what, Mrs. Conroy?
700
00:25:57,932 --> 00:26:00,810
He'd already decided
who was to blame.
701
00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:04,939
Obviously, I can't
go into anything
702
00:26:04,981 --> 00:26:06,441
concerning what
Alec told me.
703
00:26:06,441 --> 00:26:09,110
Mrs. Conroy indicated
that the three of you
704
00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:11,821
discussed her husband's affair
with Karen Hall
705
00:26:11,863 --> 00:26:13,281
in a therapy session
with you
706
00:26:13,281 --> 00:26:15,992
and that, in fact,
it was you who recommended
707
00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:17,827
that they
immediately separate.
708
00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:19,454
Deanne Conroy
wasn't my patient.
709
00:26:19,496 --> 00:26:22,791
You can at least
verify the accuracy
of her statement.
710
00:26:22,832 --> 00:26:25,251
I suppose if she's already
told you as much
711
00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:26,961
I don't see the harm in that.
712
00:26:27,003 --> 00:26:30,131
She also revealed the substance
of that therapy session
713
00:26:30,173 --> 00:26:32,467
and that she left it
with serious concerns
714
00:26:32,509 --> 00:26:35,011
about the safety
of Karen Hall.
715
00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:38,973
Now, we're treading
on thinner ice here, Counselors.
716
00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:42,852
That information arises
directly out of my diagnosis
717
00:26:42,894 --> 00:26:43,978
of Mr. Conroy.
718
00:26:44,020 --> 00:26:45,855
And when another woman
turns up missing
719
00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:46,981
what then, Doctor?
720
00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:49,109
My obligation is to my patient.
721
00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:50,360
I warned Ms. Hall.
722
00:26:50,402 --> 00:26:52,195
You warned her?
723
00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:54,072
I put it all in the letter.
724
00:26:54,155 --> 00:26:55,990
There's nothing more
I could do.
725
00:26:56,032 --> 00:26:57,325
What letter, Doctor?
726
00:26:59,244 --> 00:27:00,412
A Tarasoff letter.
727
00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,956
You're familiar with it?
728
00:27:02,998 --> 00:27:04,958
Regents v. Tarasoff.
729
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,210
A California case
permitting a psychiatrist
730
00:27:07,252 --> 00:27:09,921
to send a warning letter
if he believes his patient
731
00:27:10,005 --> 00:27:11,965
constitutes a threat
to a third party.
732
00:27:12,007 --> 00:27:14,759
You say you got
this copy from
Conroy's shrink?
733
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:16,761
The original
hasn't turned up yet.
734
00:27:16,803 --> 00:27:18,722
Conroy probably
took care of that
735
00:27:18,763 --> 00:27:20,348
in the initial investigation.
736
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:23,184
"It is my belief
that Mr. Conroy constitutes
737
00:27:23,226 --> 00:27:25,228
an immediate, real danger
to you..."
738
00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:26,396
That'd be Karen Hall.
739
00:27:26,438 --> 00:27:27,605
"...and possibly
others."
740
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:31,401
Conroy's psychiatrist sent a
similar letter to Alice Marner.
741
00:27:31,443 --> 00:27:33,236
And you say his wife
was in some of these sessions?
742
00:27:33,278 --> 00:27:34,571
She used
the therapist's office
743
00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:37,032
as a safe haven
to break it off with him.
744
00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:38,366
And this other woman--
745
00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:39,743
Conroy's supposed alibi?
746
00:27:39,784 --> 00:27:41,161
What's her safe haven?
747
00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:42,245
We have her
748
00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:43,788
under 24-hour surveillance.
749
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,916
Which is how we discovered
that Marner's late husband
750
00:27:46,958 --> 00:27:49,419
kept a 26-foot Grady White
in the boat basin
751
00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:50,420
and she held onto it.
752
00:27:50,462 --> 00:27:52,922
Well, that's a nice item to have
753
00:27:52,964 --> 00:27:56,009
I mean, if you need to...
dispose of a body.
754
00:27:56,051 --> 00:27:58,887
We know you received a
letter just like this one.
755
00:27:58,887 --> 00:28:00,305
Alec would never harm me.
756
00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,390
Karen Hall
made the same assumption.
757
00:28:02,432 --> 00:28:04,392
Ask yourself this
758
00:28:04,434 --> 00:28:05,894
Miss Marner:
759
00:28:05,894 --> 00:28:07,103
when this
trial is over
760
00:28:07,145 --> 00:28:08,271
and Alec Conroy
761
00:28:08,313 --> 00:28:09,397
doesn't need you anymore
762
00:28:09,397 --> 00:28:12,317
are you going to go out
on your boat with him again?
763
00:28:15,487 --> 00:28:17,072
We know all about it.
764
00:28:17,072 --> 00:28:18,031
Security
from the marina
765
00:28:18,073 --> 00:28:21,409
told us someone
took your boat out that night.
766
00:28:24,913 --> 00:28:27,415
It's one thing
to provide an alibi
767
00:28:27,457 --> 00:28:29,042
when you have doubts.
768
00:28:29,084 --> 00:28:30,460
It's quite another
769
00:28:30,502 --> 00:28:31,294
when you know
the truth.
770
00:28:31,336 --> 00:28:33,046
It's called
"accessory after the fact"
771
00:28:33,088 --> 00:28:34,297
and it makes you
just as guilty
772
00:28:34,339 --> 00:28:36,132
of the murder as Conroy.
773
00:28:36,174 --> 00:28:37,467
No man
774
00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:40,011
is worth 25 years in prison.
775
00:28:43,473 --> 00:28:45,433
Alec called that night.
776
00:28:45,475 --> 00:28:46,935
Where was he?
777
00:28:46,935 --> 00:28:47,936
At a pay phone.
778
00:28:47,936 --> 00:28:49,020
What did he say?
779
00:28:49,062 --> 00:28:51,481
He said he needed my help.
780
00:28:51,523 --> 00:28:53,066
He needed me.
781
00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:55,819
I asked him what was wrong.
782
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:58,071
Do I have to do this?
783
00:28:58,113 --> 00:28:59,906
What did Conroy
want from you?
784
00:28:59,948 --> 00:29:01,449
He just said
785
00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:03,284
he needed to use the boat
786
00:29:03,326 --> 00:29:04,869
to meet him at the marina.
787
00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:06,454
Were you on board?
788
00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:08,248
He took the key.
789
00:29:08,289 --> 00:29:10,291
Did he have
anything with him?
790
00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:17,340
A duffel bag.
791
00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:19,467
A big one.
792
00:29:22,137 --> 00:29:24,180
Who's going to pay
for all this?
793
00:29:24,222 --> 00:29:24,973
Hey, we got a warrant.
794
00:29:25,015 --> 00:29:26,474
Take it up with
the building manager.
795
00:29:26,516 --> 00:29:27,517
Anything?
796
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,060
Floors have been
refinished.
797
00:29:29,144 --> 00:29:30,145
Place has
been painted.
798
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:31,521
At $2,800 for a one bedroom
799
00:29:31,563 --> 00:29:33,356
they damn well better
have painted it.
800
00:29:33,398 --> 00:29:34,649
Lennie?
801
00:29:36,401 --> 00:29:38,194
There's something
in the grouting.
802
00:29:38,236 --> 00:29:39,237
Could be blood.
803
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,531
It'll take a second
for the Luminol to kick in.
804
00:29:41,573 --> 00:29:43,450
Hit the light,
would you, Detective?
805
00:29:46,244 --> 00:29:47,537
That's blood.
806
00:29:47,579 --> 00:29:51,249
Huh. He should have
re-tiled the place, too.
807
00:29:51,291 --> 00:29:52,334
Oh, that's it.
808
00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:53,585
They're paying for a hotel.
809
00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:55,336
All right, that's good.
810
00:29:55,378 --> 00:29:56,880
I like that,
but if you were to take...
811
00:29:56,921 --> 00:29:57,881
Game's over,
boys and girls.
812
00:29:57,922 --> 00:29:59,674
Excuse me,
what the hell's going on here?
813
00:29:59,716 --> 00:30:01,176
Alec Conroy,
you're under arrest
814
00:30:01,217 --> 00:30:02,385
for the murder
of Karen Hall.
815
00:30:02,427 --> 00:30:03,470
Call my wife, please.
816
00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:05,221
You have the right
to remain silent.
817
00:30:05,263 --> 00:30:06,389
Excuse me.
818
00:30:06,431 --> 00:30:07,974
I know my rights, thank you.
819
00:30:08,016 --> 00:30:09,059
Oh, that's right.
820
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,560
You used to have
one of these.
821
00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:18,610
Docket 44937-- People v. Conroy.
822
00:30:18,652 --> 00:30:20,487
Charge is murder,
second degree.
823
00:30:20,528 --> 00:30:21,488
How does
824
00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:22,238
the defendant
plead?
825
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,907
Not guilty on behalf
of Mr. Conroy.
826
00:30:23,948 --> 00:30:25,367
People on bail?
827
00:30:25,408 --> 00:30:27,452
The defendant is
an assistant Attorney General
828
00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:28,411
in the Criminal Division.
829
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:30,538
The victim was his former lover
and employee.
830
00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:32,874
Now, Your Honor, the People
are in possession of a letter
831
00:30:32,916 --> 00:30:35,502
dated shortly before
the victim's disappearance
832
00:30:35,543 --> 00:30:37,379
which indicates
the defendant posed
833
00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:38,546
an immediate
physical threat to her.
834
00:30:38,588 --> 00:30:39,964
The letter
is totally inadmissible.
835
00:30:40,048 --> 00:30:42,175
His own psychiatrist will
attest to it, Your Honor.
836
00:30:42,217 --> 00:30:43,218
Not in any court
in this land.
837
00:30:43,259 --> 00:30:45,345
Motion to suppress
the so-called Tarasoff letter
838
00:30:45,387 --> 00:30:46,638
and anything that comes with it.
839
00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:47,514
Bail set at $1 million.
840
00:30:47,555 --> 00:30:49,516
Motion's referred
to the Trial Part.
841
00:30:49,557 --> 00:30:51,351
Spin the wheel, Louie.
842
00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:52,894
Damning stuff, Counselor.
843
00:30:52,936 --> 00:30:54,479
I can understand why
844
00:30:54,521 --> 00:30:56,523
you wouldn't want a jury
to get wind of this.
845
00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:58,608
Every word in
that letter is
hearsay, Your Honor
846
00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:00,443
and is being offered
to prove the very matter
847
00:31:00,485 --> 00:31:01,695
asserted.
848
00:31:01,736 --> 00:31:03,446
The doctor can
confirm its contents.
849
00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:04,614
Not unless
my client is willing
850
00:31:04,656 --> 00:31:06,491
to waive the doctor-patient
privilege
851
00:31:06,574 --> 00:31:08,243
which I can assure
you he's not.
852
00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,536
What about it, Mr. McCoy?
853
00:31:09,577 --> 00:31:10,537
Therapeutic privilege
854
00:31:10,578 --> 00:31:13,415
was shattered by
the presence of
a third party.
855
00:31:13,456 --> 00:31:15,583
Well, your office tried
that same argument
856
00:31:15,625 --> 00:31:16,918
in People v. Bierenbaum.
857
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,212
It didn't work then,
doesn't work now.
858
00:31:19,254 --> 00:31:21,673
Your Honor, in Bierenbaum,
all we had were witnesses
859
00:31:21,715 --> 00:31:22,674
who were willing
to testify
860
00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:25,510
that the defendant told them
he was in therapy.
861
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:28,263
Here we have someone who was
actually in the session.
862
00:31:28,304 --> 00:31:31,016
It was his wife, Your Honor.
863
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,684
Wife?
864
00:31:32,767 --> 00:31:35,687
So, if the psychological
privilege doesn't apply...
865
00:31:35,729 --> 00:31:37,689
Then the spousal
prohibition does.
866
00:31:37,731 --> 00:31:40,775
Spousal privilege precludes
Mrs. Conroy's testifying
867
00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:42,610
not Conroy's psychiatrist.
868
00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:43,737
Call it what you like.
869
00:31:43,778 --> 00:31:45,947
I'm not letting the man's shrink
violate the privilege
870
00:31:45,989 --> 00:31:47,824
because the man's wife
was in the same room.
871
00:31:47,866 --> 00:31:49,367
And without
the doctor's testimony
872
00:31:49,451 --> 00:31:50,368
the letter is hearsay.
873
00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:51,703
Relax, Stan.
874
00:31:51,786 --> 00:31:53,747
The letter's out, too.
875
00:31:55,457 --> 00:31:56,958
Dr. Breitel, the letter
876
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,501
and his testimony
are gone.
877
00:31:58,543 --> 00:32:00,587
What about the blood
in the apartment?
878
00:32:00,628 --> 00:32:02,756
Too contaminated
for any real analysis.
879
00:32:02,797 --> 00:32:03,590
The murder weapon.
880
00:32:03,631 --> 00:32:06,051
Conroy doesn't own
a registered handgun.
881
00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:07,802
He could have gotten it
anywhere.
882
00:32:07,844 --> 00:32:09,679
He probably dropped it
in the water
883
00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:11,514
along with Karen Hall's body.
884
00:32:11,556 --> 00:32:12,891
What does that
leave us with?
885
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,351
Alice Marner's
testimony
886
00:32:14,392 --> 00:32:16,603
that Conroy took her boat out
that night
887
00:32:16,644 --> 00:32:17,520
with a duffel bag.
888
00:32:17,562 --> 00:32:20,315
We also have his attempt
at a false alibi.
889
00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,651
It's a roll
of the dice.
890
00:32:22,692 --> 00:32:24,486
No.
891
00:32:24,527 --> 00:32:27,489
I don't want to gamble
with a jilted mistress, Jack.
892
00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:34,412
A plea.
893
00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:35,497
You can't be serious.
894
00:32:35,497 --> 00:32:36,873
Alec, let's hear
them out at least.
895
00:32:36,915 --> 00:32:38,750
Hear what out?
Without Dr. Breitel
896
00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:40,669
all you've got
is circumstantial evidence.
897
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:42,796
We all know how juries
hate to convict on that.
898
00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:44,506
And yet, sometimes they do.
899
00:32:44,547 --> 00:32:45,673
Trust me--
900
00:32:45,673 --> 00:32:46,549
this one won't.
901
00:32:46,591 --> 00:32:47,842
They might,
after they learn
902
00:32:47,884 --> 00:32:48,927
about all the blood
903
00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:49,886
in that bathroom.
904
00:32:49,928 --> 00:32:52,389
From what I understand
from your forensic report
905
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:53,765
the blood couldn't be typed.
906
00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:55,392
It was too contaminated.
907
00:32:55,433 --> 00:32:58,103
I remember reading somewhere
that bleach can do that.
908
00:32:58,144 --> 00:33:00,605
Aren't you forgetting
about a large duffel bag
909
00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:01,731
you were carrying
that evening?
910
00:33:01,773 --> 00:33:04,567
Oh, the one that Alice
never actually looked into?
911
00:33:04,609 --> 00:33:05,652
It's in my closet.
912
00:33:05,694 --> 00:33:07,028
I can bring it in if you'd like.
913
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:09,531
Of course, it could be one
that just looks like it.
914
00:33:09,572 --> 00:33:11,908
In any event, I doubt
Alice would be able
to tell the difference
915
00:33:11,950 --> 00:33:12,951
either way.
916
00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:14,077
We also have
a witness
917
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:15,537
in the marina.
918
00:33:15,578 --> 00:33:16,579
A witness to what?
919
00:33:16,621 --> 00:33:17,831
A late-night cruise?
920
00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:20,917
Do you know how many times
I've taken that boat out? Hmm?
921
00:33:20,959 --> 00:33:22,711
Even when Alice's husband
was alive.
922
00:33:22,711 --> 00:33:26,006
You don't seriously expect
to walk on this?
923
00:33:28,591 --> 00:33:30,593
I understand
you've never seen me in court.
924
00:33:30,635 --> 00:33:31,720
Consider this
925
00:33:31,761 --> 00:33:32,637
a preview.
926
00:33:32,679 --> 00:33:33,763
Stan.
927
00:33:45,525 --> 00:33:47,819
Miss Hall was last seen
by Miss Cofresta
928
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:49,738
at approximately 4:00 p.m.
929
00:33:49,738 --> 00:33:53,033
She had indicated that she was
going to be staying in the city.
930
00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:53,992
What about the witness
931
00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:57,037
who originally placed
Miss Hall in Albany?
932
00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:59,789
He's since retracted
that identification.
933
00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:01,166
Thank you.
934
00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:02,792
Nothing further.
935
00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:06,796
To your knowledge
936
00:34:06,838 --> 00:34:08,715
was Mr. Conroy seen
with the deceased
937
00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:09,924
the night of
her disappearance?
938
00:34:09,966 --> 00:34:12,052
Uh, no.
939
00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:13,720
And Mr. Conroy
has admitted
940
00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:14,471
that he and Miss Hall
941
00:34:14,512 --> 00:34:16,056
were having an affair,
has he not?
942
00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:17,474
I believe
he has, yes.
943
00:34:17,515 --> 00:34:19,559
Well, do you know of any fact--
944
00:34:19,601 --> 00:34:20,852
fact, Detective--
945
00:34:20,935 --> 00:34:21,811
that would contradict
946
00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:23,480
his assertion that
the affair had ended?
947
00:34:23,521 --> 00:34:25,774
No.
948
00:34:25,815 --> 00:34:28,860
In fact, the only evidence on
the issue is that Mr. Conroy
949
00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:31,946
returned to his wife
following a legal separation?
950
00:34:31,988 --> 00:34:33,740
Actually, I think he made
a few stops
951
00:34:33,782 --> 00:34:35,116
before he went back
to his wife.
952
00:34:35,158 --> 00:34:37,494
Ha, ha.
953
00:34:37,535 --> 00:34:38,453
Nothing further.
954
00:34:40,789 --> 00:34:42,749
I've known Alec
for 12 years.
955
00:34:42,791 --> 00:34:44,209
You described
your relationship
956
00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:46,044
with the defendant
as passionate.
957
00:34:46,127 --> 00:34:48,922
Passionate...
958
00:34:48,963 --> 00:34:49,964
supportive.
959
00:34:49,964 --> 00:34:52,050
Supportive? How?
960
00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:53,718
Alec was not a man
who found it easy
961
00:34:53,802 --> 00:34:57,972
to... let his guard
down with others.
962
00:34:58,014 --> 00:34:59,599
With me, it was different.
963
00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:02,811
He trusted me,
he confided in me.
964
00:35:02,811 --> 00:35:04,979
And that night,
he confided in you?
965
00:35:05,021 --> 00:35:07,816
Alec asked for my help.
966
00:35:07,857 --> 00:35:09,651
He needed to use the boat.
967
00:35:09,693 --> 00:35:11,027
Those were his words?
968
00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:11,987
"Use the boat"?
969
00:35:12,028 --> 00:35:13,029
Yes.
970
00:35:13,071 --> 00:35:15,699
And I let him.
971
00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:18,702
I let him throw that girl's body
into the river.
972
00:35:18,743 --> 00:35:19,953
Objection.
973
00:35:19,994 --> 00:35:20,996
Sustained.
974
00:35:21,037 --> 00:35:22,706
Thank you.
975
00:35:22,747 --> 00:35:23,707
Nothing further.
976
00:35:26,876 --> 00:35:30,213
12 years is a, a long time
to know a man, isn't it?
977
00:35:30,255 --> 00:35:32,841
And you are...
978
00:35:32,841 --> 00:35:34,592
fond of Alec Conroy,
aren't you?
979
00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:39,222
I've been in love with
Alec Conroy since the day we met
980
00:35:39,264 --> 00:35:40,890
and I still am.
981
00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:43,852
And you've testified that
this man you've known and loved
982
00:35:43,852 --> 00:35:45,854
for nearly 12 years,
who confided in you
983
00:35:45,895 --> 00:35:50,525
trusted you, called and
asked if he could use your boat?
984
00:35:50,567 --> 00:35:52,527
Yes.
985
00:35:52,569 --> 00:35:54,612
In the dead of winter?
986
00:35:54,696 --> 00:35:56,823
And this man who so trusted you
and relied on you
987
00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:58,742
gave no
reason why?
988
00:35:58,783 --> 00:36:00,201
He just said he needed help.
989
00:36:00,201 --> 00:36:01,161
He offered no
explanation
990
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,204
and you didn't
ask him why?
991
00:36:03,246 --> 00:36:04,664
No.
992
00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:07,125
You just met him at the boat?
993
00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:08,626
Yes.
994
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:09,753
And you claim
995
00:36:09,794 --> 00:36:12,505
that when he showed up,
he was carrying a duffel bag
996
00:36:12,547 --> 00:36:13,965
and still you didn't ask why?
997
00:36:14,049 --> 00:36:16,885
No.
998
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:26,519
You didn't meet Alec Conroy at
the boat that night, did you?
999
00:36:26,561 --> 00:36:27,604
I don't understand.
1000
00:36:27,646 --> 00:36:29,272
Oh, you went
to the boat, all right
1001
00:36:29,314 --> 00:36:31,816
but you met him
at his apartment, didn't you?
1002
00:36:31,858 --> 00:36:33,943
No, I did not.
1003
00:36:33,985 --> 00:36:36,529
You met him at the apartment
that he had rented
1004
00:36:36,571 --> 00:36:37,822
for the two of you
1005
00:36:37,864 --> 00:36:39,199
only you
weren't invited
1006
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:40,784
and when you showed up
1007
00:36:40,825 --> 00:36:42,577
to see your lover
of 12 years
1008
00:36:42,577 --> 00:36:43,912
in the arms
of this young girl...
1009
00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:45,121
What are you trying to do?
1010
00:36:45,163 --> 00:36:47,916
Your late husband
owned a .22 caliber
handgun, did he not?
1011
00:36:47,916 --> 00:36:49,167
Alec?
1012
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:50,835
You're the one who killed
1013
00:36:50,919 --> 00:36:52,170
that woman that night,
aren't you?
1014
00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:53,171
No!
1015
00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:55,006
The wife posed no threat
1016
00:36:55,048 --> 00:36:56,675
but this one, she did
1017
00:36:56,716 --> 00:36:57,717
this young,
sensuous woman.
1018
00:36:57,759 --> 00:36:58,802
Objection.
1019
00:36:58,843 --> 00:36:59,761
Overruled.
1020
00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:00,845
You killed her
1021
00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:03,056
and then you asked
Alec Conroy, the man you love
1022
00:37:03,098 --> 00:37:04,974
the man you trust, to help you.
1023
00:37:05,016 --> 00:37:07,769
In fact, you counted
on the 12 years of control
1024
00:37:07,811 --> 00:37:09,062
that you had
had over him...
1025
00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:09,979
Control I had!?
1026
00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:11,231
Yeah, and it worked
1027
00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:12,315
because rather than
turn you in
1028
00:37:12,357 --> 00:37:14,609
rather than fulfill
his obligations as a prosecutor
1029
00:37:14,651 --> 00:37:17,570
he took pity on
you, didn't he?
1030
00:37:17,612 --> 00:37:19,155
Helped you get rid
1031
00:37:19,197 --> 00:37:20,323
of Miss Hall's body.
1032
00:37:20,365 --> 00:37:22,701
That never happened... never.
1033
00:37:22,784 --> 00:37:24,119
Your boat, Mrs. Marner.
1034
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,956
Your boat, your gun,
your jealousy.
1035
00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:35,880
Should've seen
it coming.
1036
00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:36,923
How could we?
1037
00:37:36,965 --> 00:37:38,299
The gun was registered
1038
00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:40,635
to Marner's late
husband in Florida
1039
00:37:40,677 --> 00:37:41,845
not New York.
1040
00:37:41,886 --> 00:37:44,014
You think the jury
will see through that?
1041
00:37:44,055 --> 00:37:46,975
Gillum doesn't need to prove
the Marner scenario.
1042
00:37:47,016 --> 00:37:50,603
He just has to get one juror
to buy himself reasonable doubt.
1043
00:37:50,645 --> 00:37:51,646
Which he can do
1044
00:37:51,688 --> 00:37:53,690
because they will never
see the Tarasoff letter.
1045
00:37:53,732 --> 00:37:56,693
To a lawyer like Gillum,
that letter isn't a fact.
1046
00:37:56,735 --> 00:37:58,862
It's just an annoying detail.
1047
00:37:58,903 --> 00:38:01,031
This guy leaves his wife,
he takes two lovers
1048
00:38:01,072 --> 00:38:02,991
and he still has the sanctity
1049
00:38:03,033 --> 00:38:04,826
of marital privilege
to protect him.
1050
00:38:10,165 --> 00:38:12,417
Except he didn't just
leave his wife.
1051
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:15,045
When Gillum crossed
Green, he said...
1052
00:38:15,086 --> 00:38:17,756
...they were
legally separated.
1053
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:21,176
Another one of those
annoying details.
1054
00:38:23,678 --> 00:38:26,890
I was under the impression
I'd already ruled on this.
1055
00:38:26,931 --> 00:38:29,434
The Tarasoff letter,
the shrink's testimony.
1056
00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:30,977
It's a nonstarter, Jack.
1057
00:38:31,019 --> 00:38:31,811
We're agreed that
1058
00:38:31,853 --> 00:38:33,730
if Mr. Conroy had
uttered his threats
1059
00:38:33,772 --> 00:38:35,315
to his psychiatrist
and a third party
1060
00:38:35,357 --> 00:38:36,941
the privilege would've
been shattered...
1061
00:38:36,983 --> 00:38:38,234
We've been down this path.
1062
00:38:38,276 --> 00:38:42,030
The so-called third party
was his wife.
1063
00:38:42,072 --> 00:38:44,032
Only they were legally separated
at the time
1064
00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:45,116
not just living apart.
1065
00:38:45,158 --> 00:38:48,078
Page 36 of your
cross-examination
1066
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:49,079
of Detective Green, Stan.
1067
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,997
A legal separation.
1068
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,999
They filed an agreement
with the court.
1069
00:38:53,041 --> 00:38:54,876
A distinction
without a difference.
1070
00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:55,668
Your Honor
1071
00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:56,628
once an agreement has
been filed
1072
00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:58,922
one spouse can go out
and have an affair
1073
00:38:58,963 --> 00:38:59,714
and legally, the other spouse
1074
00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:01,508
can't use it
as grounds for divorce.
1075
00:39:01,549 --> 00:39:03,093
I'd say that's
a pretty big difference.
1076
00:39:03,134 --> 00:39:06,137
So you're claiming now
the marital privilege
1077
00:39:06,221 --> 00:39:07,055
doesn't apply because
1078
00:39:07,097 --> 00:39:09,015
the sanctity of marriage
no longer existed.
1079
00:39:09,057 --> 00:39:12,936
In the eyes of the law,
Deanne Conroy was a third party.
1080
00:39:12,977 --> 00:39:14,437
Ergo her presence in therapy
1081
00:39:14,479 --> 00:39:16,773
nullifies
the therapeutic privilege.
1082
00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:18,108
Your Honor, it's...
1083
00:39:18,149 --> 00:39:20,026
Stan, look at
it this way
1084
00:39:20,068 --> 00:39:21,903
if the jury convicts
1085
00:39:21,903 --> 00:39:24,406
you'll have a hell
of an issue on appeal.
1086
00:39:24,406 --> 00:39:25,448
The letter's in.
1087
00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:26,741
The shrink's in.
1088
00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,085
Doctor, please read
the highlighted portion
1089
00:39:37,085 --> 00:39:40,213
in the third full
paragraph on page two.
1090
00:39:40,255 --> 00:39:42,132
"In the light of
this, Ms. Hall
1091
00:39:42,173 --> 00:39:43,383
"I believe that
Mr. Conroy
1092
00:39:43,425 --> 00:39:45,260
"should be considered
1093
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:48,471
an immediate and very
real physical threat."
1094
00:39:48,513 --> 00:39:52,308
What was the basis
for your opinion?
1095
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:56,146
Mr. Conroy suffers from CDR--
Control-Domination Response.
1096
00:39:56,187 --> 00:39:57,939
In lay terms?
1097
00:39:57,939 --> 00:39:58,940
He needs to feel
1098
00:39:58,982 --> 00:39:59,774
that everything in his life--
1099
00:39:59,816 --> 00:40:01,776
especially the people
in his life--
1100
00:40:01,776 --> 00:40:05,280
are under his control,
domination.
1101
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,197
Specifically?
1102
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,159
Just look at the women
in his life:
1103
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,456
devoted wife, widowed
mistress, aspiring employee.
1104
00:40:14,497 --> 00:40:17,876
All of them share
a vulnerability to him
1105
00:40:17,959 --> 00:40:18,877
a dependence.
1106
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,795
When Mr. Conroy realized
1107
00:40:20,795 --> 00:40:23,340
he could no longer
control Ms. Hall
1108
00:40:23,381 --> 00:40:27,052
you can see how her defiance
could be perceived by him
1109
00:40:27,135 --> 00:40:29,137
as jeopardizing more than
just their relationship.
1110
00:40:29,137 --> 00:40:33,141
Did he say he was
going to kill Miss Hall?
1111
00:40:33,183 --> 00:40:35,477
He said he wanted to.
1112
00:40:37,479 --> 00:40:39,898
And I believed him.
1113
00:40:39,939 --> 00:40:42,317
Nothing further.
1114
00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:48,156
Man One on the table, McCoy?
1115
00:40:48,198 --> 00:40:49,866
You've got to
be kidding.
1116
00:40:49,908 --> 00:40:51,034
So, what is?
1117
00:40:51,076 --> 00:40:52,327
Murder Two.
1118
00:40:52,369 --> 00:40:54,329
I can get that
after trial.
1119
00:40:54,371 --> 00:40:56,122
Not with a promise
of 20-to-life.
1120
00:40:56,164 --> 00:40:57,999
Oh, you're going
to knock five years
1121
00:40:57,999 --> 00:40:59,125
off the bottom?
1122
00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:01,336
And we take no
position on parole.
1123
00:41:01,336 --> 00:41:03,254
You might just see
the light of day again.
1124
00:41:05,256 --> 00:41:06,424
"The light of day."
1125
00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:07,258
Do you know how many times
1126
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:09,177
I sat on the other side
of this table
1127
00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:11,429
and said those same
words to a defendant?
1128
00:41:11,471 --> 00:41:13,181
Now or never, Mr. Conroy.
1129
00:41:13,181 --> 00:41:17,936
The ticking clock--
always an effective strategy.
1130
00:41:21,189 --> 00:41:22,607
You've got your plea, McCoy.
1131
00:41:22,691 --> 00:41:24,484
You'll have
to allocute.
1132
00:41:24,526 --> 00:41:26,319
Oh, is that really necessary?
1133
00:41:26,361 --> 00:41:27,278
For months
1134
00:41:27,362 --> 00:41:28,279
Karen Hall's family's
1135
00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:30,407
been plagued by questions
of how and why.
1136
00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:31,616
We're not leaving this room
1137
00:41:31,658 --> 00:41:33,159
until your client
answers them.
1138
00:41:33,201 --> 00:41:34,160
You don't have to.
1139
00:41:34,202 --> 00:41:36,955
It's okay.
1140
00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:39,416
You know, this may come
as a big surprise to all of you
1141
00:41:39,457 --> 00:41:40,875
but I loved Karen.
1142
00:41:40,917 --> 00:41:43,920
Killing someone's
a pretty sick way
1143
00:41:43,962 --> 00:41:45,296
of saying "I love you."
1144
00:41:47,966 --> 00:41:50,093
When I first met Karen
1145
00:41:50,135 --> 00:41:53,138
she was just another local girl
in cheap shoes.
1146
00:41:53,221 --> 00:41:54,389
She didn't know
the first thing
1147
00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:56,016
about being a professional
1148
00:41:56,057 --> 00:41:57,976
about talking like one
1149
00:41:58,059 --> 00:42:02,105
like dressing like one
or like thinking like one.
1150
00:42:02,147 --> 00:42:04,315
I was the one
who taught her that.
1151
00:42:04,357 --> 00:42:05,734
And then you betrayed her.
1152
00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:07,318
No, that was
her choice, not mine.
1153
00:42:07,402 --> 00:42:09,279
I was willing to give up
1154
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,489
my wife and my children
for her.
1155
00:42:11,531 --> 00:42:14,451
She just couldn't appreciate
the sacrifice.
1156
00:42:16,077 --> 00:42:17,579
So, then... ?
1157
00:42:17,620 --> 00:42:19,998
So, then I called her
late that afternoon
1158
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,585
and told her I had some
new information about the case.
1159
00:42:23,585 --> 00:42:27,589
She was reluctant about
coming over to the apartment
1160
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:29,924
but I told her
it'd just be a few minutes
1161
00:42:29,966 --> 00:42:31,426
but I could tell in her voice
1162
00:42:31,426 --> 00:42:33,303
she didn't want
to come.
1163
00:42:33,344 --> 00:42:34,679
But she did.
1164
00:42:34,721 --> 00:42:36,473
Loyalty to the job,
Miss Carmichael.
1165
00:42:36,514 --> 00:42:40,018
I taught her that, too.
1166
00:42:40,101 --> 00:42:42,228
Where'd you get the gun?
1167
00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,314
Alice's, a few weeks before.
1168
00:42:44,356 --> 00:42:46,274
What happened
after Ms. Hall got there?
1169
00:42:46,274 --> 00:42:47,442
At first,
we talked
about work.
1170
00:42:47,484 --> 00:42:49,069
I wanted her to think
1171
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:51,154
everything was going
to be okay
1172
00:42:51,196 --> 00:42:53,365
but then I brought up
the relationship
1173
00:42:53,406 --> 00:42:58,078
and Karen said she was
uncomfortable with the subject
1174
00:42:58,119 --> 00:42:59,120
that it was over.
1175
00:42:59,162 --> 00:43:02,123
She started putting
on her coat
1176
00:43:02,165 --> 00:43:03,625
I told her to sit down...
1177
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:08,254
She said I couldn't tell her
what to do anymore.
1178
00:43:08,296 --> 00:43:10,465
So I reached for her
1179
00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:13,677
and she pulled away
1180
00:43:13,718 --> 00:43:15,261
and she said that the thought
1181
00:43:15,303 --> 00:43:18,681
of her being touched by me again
made her sick.
1182
00:43:19,724 --> 00:43:22,727
That's when
she saw the gun.
1183
00:43:22,811 --> 00:43:25,355
She gave me this look
1184
00:43:25,397 --> 00:43:28,149
like she knew
she'd gone too far.
1185
00:43:28,191 --> 00:43:30,777
Why not just let her walk away?
1186
00:43:30,819 --> 00:43:31,778
I couldn't.
1187
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:37,534
Karen should have known
I could never do that.
1188
00:43:40,662 --> 00:43:44,332
Now she does.
1189
00:43:48,461 --> 00:43:50,672
Background checks,
press coverage...
1190
00:43:50,714 --> 00:43:52,048
and with all that
1191
00:43:52,090 --> 00:43:53,383
Alec Conroy was
a heartbeat away
1192
00:43:53,425 --> 00:43:54,634
from one of the most
powerful jobs
1193
00:43:54,676 --> 00:43:57,470
in the criminal justice system.
1194
00:43:57,512 --> 00:43:59,556
What a frightening thought.
85078
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