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In the criminal justice system
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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...1-19, 1-19, 119.
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Excuse me.
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Excuse me.
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Officers, there's
a homeless woman...
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There's a homeless woman
at the end of the platform.
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She's being eyed
by some men
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and I'm concerned
that she's vulnerable.
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What do you mean,
"vulnerable"?
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I mean, she's asleep
on the bench
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and she's vulnerable.
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All right, lady,
calm down.
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Show us
what you're talking about.
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What are you looking at?
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Come on, dear, rise and shine.
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Hold on, Manny.
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Oh, dear God.
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How come they call
the Squad
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for a DOA
on a subway platform?
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Maybe it's a person
of great renown.
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Maybe they thought we didn't
have anything else to do.
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Come on, folks,
let's go.
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You two the ones found the body? Yeah.
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Anybody see how
it happened?
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Not so far.
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Cause of death?
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Paramedic's best guess is,
uh, cerebral hemorrhage.
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There's an abrasion
on her scalp--
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maybe from a
fall, maybe not.
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They figure she's been dead
about two hours.
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Not much blood.
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You got an I.D.?
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M.E. gave us
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a green light
to tag and bag.
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All I found were
house keys, a Metrocard...
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some kind of receipt.
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No purse?
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If she had one,
it's gone.
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Well-dressed... nails done.
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She puts in
an honest day's work
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then waits for the
Downtown Local to go home.
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Yeah...
and she caught the Express.
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"Single blunt force trauma
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to the vertex of the skull."
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You know, it's hard to fall
on the top of your head.
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The hemorrhage was
at the point of impact.
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M.E. have any idea
what was used?
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Yep.
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They found particles
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of cement and asphalt
in her scalp.
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You mean like one of those paving stones?
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Hey, they were working
on the station.
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That's what was
laying around.
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Looks like a
hit-and-run.
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All right. Thanks.
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No one's filed a report
with Missing Persons
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fitting her description.
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Which could mean she
was from out of town.
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Oh, that's
just what we need:
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"Female Tourist Beaten To Death
On The Subway."
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No, she was dressed more like a business
woman than a tourist.
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Metrocard ride history.
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Thanks.
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Let's see.
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Repeated evening entries
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at the station
where the body was found...
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corresponding morning entries
at Franklin Street.
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So, not a tourist.
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We'll canvas with the photo
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see if somebody can tell us
who she is.
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Sorry.
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Her Metrocard indicates
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that she came through
here Tuesday morning.
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Sorry.
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Nothing about her jumps out? Sorry.
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Is this
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the only entrance?
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For uptown service.
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Downtown, you have to go
across the street.
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I know, you're sorry.
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Excuse me, sir.
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You here every day?
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Rain or shine, boss.
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Do you recognize
this woman?
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She don't look so good.
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Well, you'll have
to forgive her-- she's dead.
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Take a look.
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If she is the lady
I'm thinking
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she's a Wall Street Journal, a Times, New
Yorker
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Advocate.
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Advocate?
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A gay monthly.
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You notice which way
she comes from?
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Oh, from across the street
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and if she's the same lady,
she always had a cup of coffee.
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Thank you.
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Two? Lennie: We're trying to put a name
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to this woman's face.
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We want to know if she gets
her morning coffee here.
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Sheila does the take-out.
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Sheila, Sheila,
come here a sec.
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These, uh, police are looking
for this broad.
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We actually want to know if
somebody recognizes her.
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Yeah. I know her.
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Comes in every
morning for coffee.
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Haven't seen her
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in a few days.
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Do you know her name? No.
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What happened to her?
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Do you know if she
lived around here?
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You're not going to
tell me what happened?
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She died.
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Yeah, well... I can tell that
from the picture.
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Another person I know gone,
and this one had kids.
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How do you know that? Every other week
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she's in here with new pictures
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that she just picked up
from next door.
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Thanks. Yeah.
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Maybe ours; maybe not ours.
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Uh, what if somebody
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doesn't pick them
up right away?
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In here.
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It's dated two weeks ago.
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The name on it's
"Donnatelli."
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Is there a first name
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or an account number?
Only last name.
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Oh.
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It's her.
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There's a number six
on the building.
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We're going
to need these.
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$12.41.
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I should pay?
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Van Buren:
How are we making out?
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There's 17 Donnatellis
listed in the book
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none of them with an address in that
neighborhood.
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Well, I don't care
if we have
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to try her house keys
door-to-door.
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When The Post runs that picture
on the front page
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we're going to have
a suspect.
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Well, apparently,
she takes an interest
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in gay periodicals,
if that's significant.
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Hey, uh, Stephanie Donnatelli.
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611 West 18 Street.
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Hey, there's a six
in the photograph.
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DMV faxed us driver's license
photos
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of every female
Donnatelli over 21.
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Hmm.
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If she lives
on West 18 Street
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why does she get the subway
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at Franklin?
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Good question.
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Maybe we should see
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who else lives at this address.
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Yes?
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New York City detectives.
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Is this the home of
Stephanie Donnatelli?
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It's the home of her children
and her ex-husband.
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Why?
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Uh, may we come up?
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I wondered why I hadn't heard
from her.
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She was supposed
to take the kids to a matinee.
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You didn't call?
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I figured she forgot...
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even though it's not
like her to forget
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and I was pissed
and surprised
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I figured...
she had a lot going on at work.
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I didn't want to make
a whole thing of it.
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I should have called.
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Steph never would have forgotten
something involving the kids.
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Where did she work?
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She was a...
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book editor
at Arcade Publishing.
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They're at 23rd and Broadway.
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That's a block away
from the subway.
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Look, uh...
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I know that, uh...
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this is lousy time
to ask questions like this
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but...
we have to know
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who might have known
your ex-wife.
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Now, can you tell us anything
about her private affairs?
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You mean, like,
her sex life?
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Anything at all.
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At the age of 30
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Stephanie came
to the conclusion
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that she was gay.
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She still loved me.
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I still loved her.
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She adored her kids.
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We just needed
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to stop living together
as husband and wife.
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Was she involved
with anyone?
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She hadn't been
for a long time.
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This last month or so
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she's called me up
on the phone at night
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and we've talked
and talked and...
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she's told me how...
how lonely she is.
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We're really sorry
for your loss.
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Can you think
of anything
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she might have
had with her--
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jewelry, a watch,
an address book?
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Uh... she had a...
one of those funny watches
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a Swatch watch,
I think it is
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with Winnie-the-Pooh on it.
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She had different pins,
different bracelets.
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There wasn't one
that she wore all the time.
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Uh...
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There was a-a cross
that my mother gave her--
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a little gold cross
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that she did wear all the time.
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Yeah, we showed the photograph
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around some bars
near where she lived.
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No one recognized her
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and the ex-husband says
that wasn't her scene.
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So, if some nut case goes after a woman
with a paving stone
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its the Konchalavsky
woman all over again.
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They guy went away, right?
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It's a copycat.
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Right. Thanks.
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Well, apparently, even though she's dead,
her credit isn't.
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Somebody used her
American Express card.
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You don't check I.D.s.?
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Well, it's the cashier's
responsibility
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to do that.
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I don't know what happened
in this instance.
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The transaction record says
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the credit approval came in
at 11:43.
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Okay. Fast forwarding.
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I take it those persons
don't have authorization
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to use that credit card.
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Ooh, you're good.
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I'll make a copy of the tape.
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No. We'll make a copy.
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We're sure the cashier
didn't know them?
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We talked to her
on the way out.
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She said no.
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Well, when you do find
the girls
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I want you to add a charge
of felony bad taste.
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Wearing white
after Labor Day?
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Someone just used
the card again.
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Movie theater--
107th and Broadway.
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I don't even
know you.
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How was the movie, ladies?
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Do I know you?
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No, but I know you.
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You're both
under arrest
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for possession
of stolen property.
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Let's go.
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I found that card.
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Sure, and it just happened
to be in the pocket
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of the woman
it belonged to.
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Please!
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Let me break it down for you, sweetheart.
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That card belonged
to a woman
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who is now dead.
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She was murdered
on her way home from work.
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We don't know nothing
about that.
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Possession of a stolen
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credit card's a felony.
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If you didn't commit
the murder yourselves
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you're at least an accessory
after the fact.
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Book 'em on that,
and take 'em up to Central.
267
00:10:57,992 --> 00:10:59,326
Hold up! Wait a minute!
268
00:10:59,368 --> 00:11:00,369
We didn't...
269
00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:01,830
We have no choice.
270
00:11:02,250 --> 00:11:03,290
They're just messing with us.
271
00:11:03,332 --> 00:11:05,292
You think?
272
00:11:07,930 --> 00:11:10,090
What time's the next wagon leave
for Central booking?
273
00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:11,160
About 15 minutes.
274
00:11:11,450 --> 00:11:12,450
Add these two to the list.
275
00:11:12,610 --> 00:11:13,770
Wait a minute! Wait! Hold up!
276
00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:16,351
Darlene, don't you say nothing.
277
00:11:16,393 --> 00:11:17,353
I can't be going
through this.
278
00:11:17,395 --> 00:11:18,938
I got to graduate
junior college.
279
00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:21,315
Who gave you the card?
280
00:11:21,357 --> 00:11:23,250
Don't you
say nothing, Darlene.
281
00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:24,530
Trey Wiles gave us that card.
282
00:11:26,450 --> 00:11:27,409
Who's Trey Wiles?
283
00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:28,770
Her boyfriend,
and he works
284
00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:30,790
in shipping on 7th Avenue
and 39th street.
285
00:11:30,970 --> 00:11:31,950
She's a spiteful bitch!
286
00:11:32,050 --> 00:11:33,650
She know Trey ain't had nothing
to do with this.
287
00:11:34,010 --> 00:11:38,265
You still going
to put us on that wagon?
288
00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:40,058
Keep it coming.
289
00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:42,130
Trey Wiles? Yeah.
290
00:11:42,172 --> 00:11:44,132
Put your hands behind
your back, bro.
291
00:11:44,132 --> 00:11:45,092
Hey, what's up
with this?
292
00:11:45,134 --> 00:11:47,470
Some questions came up
about your credit rating.
293
00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:48,610
Yeah, we want to find out
294
00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:50,180
if you're eligible
for the Gold Card.
295
00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:51,020
Yo, come on, man.
296
00:11:51,020 --> 00:11:51,980
My boss finds out
about this
297
00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:52,820
I'm going
to lose my job.
298
00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:54,540
Oh, you got bigger troubles
than that, kid.
299
00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,292
The American Express card
you gave Shantay
300
00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:58,080
belonged to a woman
who was murdered.
301
00:11:58,122 --> 00:11:59,082
Mm-hmm.
For real?
302
00:11:59,124 --> 00:12:00,208
Where'd you get it?
303
00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:02,262
Hey, look, man, I don't know nothing about
no murder.
304
00:12:02,304 --> 00:12:03,305
Okay. Here's
the deal, Trey.
305
00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:05,360
If I have to put your ass
in the back of this car
306
00:12:05,481 --> 00:12:06,321
and drive down
to the precinct
307
00:12:06,321 --> 00:12:07,281
you're going upstate
308
00:12:07,323 --> 00:12:09,325
so, you tell us who gave you the card
309
00:12:09,366 --> 00:12:10,826
and you just
had a bad day
310
00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:12,793
and you're home
by supper.
311
00:12:13,260 --> 00:12:15,700
All right, I'll tell
you where I got it.
312
00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:17,151
I bought it.
From who?
313
00:12:17,193 --> 00:12:18,277
Street dude.
314
00:12:18,820 --> 00:12:20,460
"Street dude." What's his name?
315
00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:21,300
Raffi something
316
00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:22,620
or something Raffi, man.
I don't know.
317
00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:24,020
He's a homeless dude.
318
00:12:24,061 --> 00:12:25,396
Lives in the shelter on 127th.
319
00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:27,480
Comes around here
every now and then
320
00:12:27,521 --> 00:12:28,481
sells stuff.
321
00:12:28,481 --> 00:12:29,420
That's all, man.
322
00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:30,880
You better hope
he's sleeping in today.
323
00:12:30,922 --> 00:12:32,340
Ah, he's under me.
324
00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:35,560
I'm the chief administrator
here.
325
00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:37,580
We're looking
for a certain guest
326
00:12:37,580 --> 00:12:39,749
of this establishment,
a Raffi something?
327
00:12:39,749 --> 00:12:40,791
Raffi Lorraine?
328
00:12:41,180 --> 00:12:43,099
How many
Raffi's you got?
329
00:12:46,780 --> 00:12:48,020
Ten beds back
on the left.
330
00:12:48,062 --> 00:12:49,271
Thanks.
331
00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:56,070
Raffi Lorraine?
332
00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,300
Come on, man.
It ain't time yet.
333
00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,820
Early checkout today.
Come on.
334
00:13:01,862 --> 00:13:02,822
What did I do?
335
00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:05,167
This your stuff?
Yeah.
336
00:13:05,208 --> 00:13:06,140
You want to take it
with you?
337
00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:07,099
Where am I going?
338
00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:08,140
For a ride with us.
339
00:13:08,140 --> 00:13:09,099
You want to take it
with you or not?
340
00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,220
If I don't, it wont be here
when I get back.
341
00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:12,260
Do you mind if
I take a look?
342
00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:13,100
Go ahead.
343
00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:14,040
There's no weapons
or anything
344
00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:16,542
that might hurt me?
345
00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:17,543
No.
346
00:13:17,585 --> 00:13:19,503
This yours?
347
00:13:19,545 --> 00:13:20,505
Yes, sir.
348
00:13:22,380 --> 00:13:23,980
Buttons from the wrong side,
chief.
349
00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:25,760
I'm not picky
about such matters.
350
00:13:26,020 --> 00:13:26,980
Where'd you find it?
351
00:13:27,021 --> 00:13:27,980
Garbage can.
352
00:13:27,980 --> 00:13:28,920
Why would somebody
throw away
353
00:13:29,020 --> 00:13:30,740
a beautiful coat
like this, huh?
354
00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:31,580
People with money
get tired
355
00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:32,540
of their clothes
sometimes.
356
00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:36,180
They get tired
of their gold crosses, too?
357
00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:40,940
Token clerk tells us
you're a regular, Raffi.
358
00:13:40,940 --> 00:13:43,080
Yeah. And you're
a real pain in the ass
359
00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:44,060
to all the passengers.
360
00:13:44,420 --> 00:13:45,620
I don't bother nobody.
361
00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:48,670
The woman that cross belonged to was
beaten to death.
362
00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:49,550
Do you understand?
363
00:13:49,550 --> 00:13:50,390
I didn't do that.
364
00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:52,754
Hey, we got you
on the subway platform
365
00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:55,870
and we got you with the
victim's possessions.
366
00:13:55,870 --> 00:13:56,950
Now, you have
something to say
367
00:13:56,950 --> 00:13:59,350
because the train's about
to leave the station?
368
00:13:59,350 --> 00:14:00,350
I saw who killed her.
369
00:14:00,392 --> 00:14:02,144
You sure it
wasn't you?
370
00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:03,030
He was a black guy.
371
00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:05,290
Maybe 30, 40.
372
00:14:05,331 --> 00:14:07,790
One of them buggy guys,
goes off on you.
373
00:14:07,790 --> 00:14:10,585
Yeah? What did you see
this buggy guy do?
374
00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:13,110
He was walking around
talking to himself.
375
00:14:14,590 --> 00:14:16,390
Walking one end of the platform
to the other.
376
00:14:16,950 --> 00:14:18,830
The train comes in,
people get on
377
00:14:18,852 --> 00:14:19,692
except for that guy.
378
00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:21,152
And you.
379
00:14:21,550 --> 00:14:22,810
I'm working that platform.
380
00:14:23,470 --> 00:14:24,990
I've got garbage to go through.
381
00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:27,117
Okay. What did you see?
382
00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:29,230
This gal comes through
the turnstile.
383
00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:30,990
Stood near where the guy was.
384
00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:34,994
And all of a sudden,
he hits her with a rock!
385
00:14:36,670 --> 00:14:38,150
She walks a little ways
away from him
386
00:14:38,630 --> 00:14:41,430
she grabs her head,
drops down to a bench
387
00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:43,990
and he walks over
388
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:46,690
and he grabs her eyeglasses
off of her
389
00:14:47,230 --> 00:14:48,590
and then he walks
right out of the station.
390
00:14:49,750 --> 00:14:52,350
And you robbed
whatever you could off the body?
391
00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:53,390
That is what I did.
392
00:14:54,070 --> 00:14:55,530
I'm not proud of myself
for doing it
393
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:56,790
but that is all that I did!
394
00:15:00,350 --> 00:15:01,650
He knew about the paving stone.
395
00:15:01,870 --> 00:15:04,150
Which doesn't guarantee him
not being the one who used it.
396
00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:06,830
His rap sheet's petty thefts
and drugs.
397
00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:08,810
I think he's
telling the truth.
398
00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:12,750
Okay. Well, why don't you run
down this buggy black guy story?
399
00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:14,793
There was an E.D.P.
in the vicinity.
400
00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:15,930
Maybe there was a complaint.
401
00:15:18,891 --> 00:15:19,851
Officer Carlson?
402
00:15:19,893 --> 00:15:20,853
Yeah.
403
00:15:20,895 --> 00:15:22,730
Detectives Green, Briscoe.
404
00:15:24,830 --> 00:15:26,830
Sarge told me you'd be coming around.
What's up?
405
00:15:26,830 --> 00:15:27,870
Uh, a few days ago
406
00:15:27,870 --> 00:15:30,170
you responded to an E.D.P. in the subway.
407
00:15:31,270 --> 00:15:33,355
Yeah. Guy took a leak
on the platform.
408
00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:35,378
Female passenger
took exception.
409
00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:36,270
No collar?
410
00:15:36,270 --> 00:15:37,670
It would have
just been a summons.
411
00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:38,590
Why? What happened?
412
00:15:38,590 --> 00:15:40,467
Uh, you think
you could I.D. him?
413
00:15:40,467 --> 00:15:41,427
What did he do?
414
00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:43,030
We're looking at him
for a homicide.
415
00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:45,270
I don't believe it.
416
00:15:45,510 --> 00:15:46,637
Did you get a name?
417
00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,700
He wouldn't give us a name.
418
00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,300
We tried to take him
to a shelter, but he refused.
419
00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,000
Manager of an SRO
420
00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,620
on Eighth Avenue
owes me a favor.
421
00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,440
Took him over there.
422
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,715
Somebody's in there.
423
00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,680
New York City
Police Department.
424
00:16:12,721 --> 00:16:14,140
Open up.
425
00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,262
Got a key?
426
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:21,920
It's okay.
It's okay.
427
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,200
Take it easy.
428
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,880
All right. Come on.
429
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,920
We're going to
get you up now.
430
00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,140
Need to take you
out of here.
431
00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,039
Where you taking me?
432
00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,880
To the Police
Department.
433
00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,080
We need to
talk to you.
434
00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,480
I need to finish what I'm doing.
435
00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,307
Oh, you'll have
plenty of time.
436
00:16:33,349 --> 00:16:34,433
Don't worry.
437
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,560
Where is he?
438
00:16:38,601 --> 00:16:39,561
Interrogation Room.
439
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,340
He's refusing to be
fingerprinted.
440
00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,660
I figure, we didn't want
to force the issue
441
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,005
and have him lawyer up.
442
00:16:45,088 --> 00:16:46,089
Okay, thanks.
443
00:16:46,089 --> 00:16:47,173
You're welcome.
444
00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,960
Sir, my name is
Abby Carmichael.
445
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,240
I'm an Assistant
District Attorney.
446
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,100
I understand
there's some problem
447
00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,660
with you letting us
fingerprint you.
448
00:16:57,911 --> 00:16:58,995
Sir?
449
00:17:01,581 --> 00:17:03,375
Oh, oh, hold it!
Whoa!
450
00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,280
He does that
every so often.
451
00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,580
I need to go outside.
452
00:17:13,622 --> 00:17:14,623
Okay. Sure.
453
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,600
But before you do,
I want to talk to you
454
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,440
for a little while.
455
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,150
Is that all right?
456
00:17:20,192 --> 00:17:22,361
The air in here is bad.
457
00:17:22,444 --> 00:17:23,404
I need to
go outside.
458
00:17:23,445 --> 00:17:26,490
Can you tell me
where you got your glasses?
459
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,620
I needed them.
460
00:17:28,662 --> 00:17:31,999
I couldn't see
who was talking to me.
461
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,826
Did you take them
from the woman on the subway?
462
00:17:34,868 --> 00:17:36,240
I couldn't see
who was talking to me
463
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,909
so that's why I took 'em.
464
00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,013
Now, I need to go outside.
465
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,640
Before I can let you
466
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,803
go outside, I need to know
467
00:17:42,803 --> 00:17:43,643
who you are.
468
00:17:43,643 --> 00:17:48,315
I'm... Regis Philbin.
469
00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:53,188
Is that your final answer?
470
00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:56,930
Okay, how about this?
471
00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:58,130
You let us
fingerprint you
472
00:17:58,610 --> 00:17:59,570
and when the prints
come back
473
00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:01,290
they'll confirm
you're Regis Philbin
474
00:18:01,930 --> 00:18:02,970
and then everyone will know.
475
00:18:03,012 --> 00:18:05,264
How does that sound?
476
00:18:13,189 --> 00:18:14,149
Brian Gallant.
477
00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:17,030
Three misdemeanor
convictions
478
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:18,750
all involving
some violence.
479
00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:21,270
He got out of Rikers
a week ago.
480
00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:23,370
Tell me
he didn't get bail.
481
00:18:24,370 --> 00:18:25,810
The court remanded him
at his arraignment
482
00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:26,850
for a 7-30 exam.
483
00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:29,214
Is he competent?
484
00:18:30,290 --> 00:18:31,670
Assuming Regis Philbin
485
00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:33,830
and all the other nutsy stuff
isn't an act
486
00:18:33,930 --> 00:18:34,770
I'd say borderline.
487
00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:36,690
This also may not be
488
00:18:36,770 --> 00:18:38,410
the first attack
he's responsible for.
489
00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:40,890
Do you remember the attack
on that Konchalavsky
490
00:18:40,890 --> 00:18:42,141
woman last year?
491
00:18:42,224 --> 00:18:43,225
Don't tell me.
492
00:18:43,225 --> 00:18:43,850
Confessed.
493
00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:44,612
Matches the composite.
494
00:18:45,890 --> 00:18:49,450
Okay. I don't want to rely
on the civil commitment
495
00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:50,590
to keep him of the streets.
496
00:18:50,810 --> 00:18:52,090
Find out who's doing
his evaluation.
497
00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:53,250
Make sure we talk to them
498
00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,390
before they write
their report.
499
00:18:54,432 --> 00:18:55,392
Got it.
500
00:18:55,410 --> 00:18:56,510
Then let's talk
to his lawyer.
501
00:18:56,552 --> 00:18:57,595
Okay.
502
00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:04,210
You have no forensics linking him to
the crime.
503
00:19:04,450 --> 00:19:06,330
He was in possession of
the victim's eyeglasses.
504
00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:08,250
Somebody else had
the victim's coat.
505
00:19:08,410 --> 00:19:10,130
Somebody else had
the victim's credit card.
506
00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:11,550
We also have a witness.
507
00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:14,330
A homeless drug addict
with a criminal record
508
00:19:14,490 --> 00:19:15,330
from here to Bayonne.
509
00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:16,890
Mr. Gallant
made admissions
510
00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:18,030
to two separate
attacks.
511
00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:21,617
Counselors, we all know
he wasn't competent
512
00:19:21,658 --> 00:19:22,910
to waive counsel.
513
00:19:23,010 --> 00:19:24,570
The psychiatrist thinks
he is competent.
514
00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:26,430
Sure. They shovel
medication into him--
515
00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:27,390
he's competent.
516
00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:29,190
He killed the mother
of two children.
517
00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:31,243
Doesn't that enter
into this for you?
518
00:19:31,285 --> 00:19:34,622
What are you looking for?
519
00:19:35,410 --> 00:19:36,510
Manslaughter, first degree.
520
00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:39,230
Because that's what you think
he's guilty of
521
00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:40,970
or it looks good
on your resume?
522
00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:42,130
You're kidding, right?
523
00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:43,740
Tell me he's not insane, Jack.
524
00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:44,580
I'll tell you
525
00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:46,220
you're not getting
him off based on that.
526
00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:48,680
He stole property and ran.
527
00:19:49,380 --> 00:19:50,740
And flight's
the one indicator
528
00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:52,311
jury's love to rely on
529
00:19:52,340 --> 00:19:53,980
when they reject
an insanity defense.
530
00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:55,840
So it doesn't matter
whether or not he's insane.
531
00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:56,940
What matters most is
532
00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:58,080
he doesn't get
to do this again.
533
00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:00,060
Look at him, guys.
534
00:20:00,082 --> 00:20:02,084
That's the master criminal
535
00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:06,000
you're looking to unleash
your prosecutorial zeal on.
536
00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:08,000
There's a ten-year-old
and an eight-year-old
537
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:08,940
who just found out
538
00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:10,140
they don't have
a mother anymore.
539
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:11,740
Maybe you'd like to come
540
00:20:11,740 --> 00:20:12,580
take a look
at them.
541
00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,084
Anything less
than Man One possible?
542
00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:18,460
Man One's it.
543
00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:32,280
Your Honor, I'm handing up
the psychiatric report
544
00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:35,060
confirming this defendant's
competency to enter
545
00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:36,060
a plea of guilty
546
00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:38,200
to manslaughter
in the first degree
547
00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:39,980
in the death
of Stephanie Donnatelli
548
00:20:39,980 --> 00:20:42,140
and assault of the first degree
arising out of an attack
549
00:20:42,260 --> 00:20:43,970
on Nadine Konchalavsky.
550
00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:44,971
You're satisfied
551
00:20:46,060 --> 00:20:47,854
with this report,
Mr. Jordan?
552
00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,359
Yes, I am, Your Honor.
553
00:20:49,401 --> 00:20:50,444
Very well.
554
00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:53,248
Mr. Gallant, you understand that
by pleading guilty
555
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:59,313
you'll be sentenced to a period
of ten to 20 years.
556
00:20:59,313 --> 00:21:00,273
Yes.
557
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:05,838
Did you kill
Stephanie Donnatelli?
558
00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:08,800
I need you to answer
for the stenographer.
559
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,060
Yes.
560
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:13,104
Did you attack
Nadine Konchalavsky?
561
00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:14,147
Yes.
562
00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:18,491
Can you tell us why
you committed these crimes?
563
00:21:18,533 --> 00:21:22,329
No reason.
564
00:21:25,290 --> 00:21:26,374
Uh, Mr. McCoy
565
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,060
I assume a motion
to vacate
566
00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:30,000
the charges against
the individual
567
00:21:30,042 --> 00:21:31,544
currently incarcerated
568
00:21:32,380 --> 00:21:34,540
for the attack
on Miss Konchalavsky
569
00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:35,380
has been filed.
570
00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,540
It has, Your Honor.
571
00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:37,860
He'll be released
as soon as I let
572
00:21:37,980 --> 00:21:39,100
corrections know
we're done.
573
00:21:39,183 --> 00:21:40,226
We're done.
574
00:21:40,268 --> 00:21:41,769
We're done?!
575
00:21:41,811 --> 00:21:45,189
Please, Mr. Donnatelli.
576
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:50,374
You guys declare yourselves
done and you're done?
577
00:21:50,416 --> 00:21:52,630
You say the one
and only person responsible
578
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:55,230
for Steph getting killed is this lunatic?
579
00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:56,750
You put a line through it
on your list
580
00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:58,910
and then you pat yourselves
on the back!
581
00:21:59,550 --> 00:22:01,510
Mr. Donnatelli, I understand you're
upset
582
00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:02,670
but this isn't the time
583
00:22:03,150 --> 00:22:05,010
or the place
to address these things.
584
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:07,810
Tell me what is the time
and place, and I'll be there!
585
00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:10,630
Tell me when you're going
to hold someone accountable
586
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:12,750
for turning him loose
on Steph...
587
00:22:15,790 --> 00:22:16,630
and I'll be there.
588
00:22:25,150 --> 00:22:26,234
He did a year?
589
00:22:26,276 --> 00:22:28,230
Misdemeanor assault.
590
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:29,070
He was released
591
00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:32,070
the night before he killed
Stephanie Donnatelli.
592
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:32,910
He was dropped off
593
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:34,830
at the Queensboro Plaza
subway station
594
00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:37,550
at midnight with a token
and a dollar and a half.
595
00:22:38,270 --> 00:22:39,110
Who made that call?
596
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:40,770
Standard operating procedure.
597
00:22:41,150 --> 00:22:42,330
We know from his medical chart
598
00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:44,350
that he made 11 visits
to the jail's clinic
599
00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:48,090
which... means it's a safe bet
someone knew something
600
00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:49,270
about his
mental condition.
601
00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:52,630
Yeah. What did they know,
and when did they know it?
602
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:54,750
Still... it's a long way
603
00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:55,870
from civil negligence
604
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:57,350
to criminal
liability.
605
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:59,311
Yes, it is.
606
00:22:59,590 --> 00:23:00,670
Well, before we go
607
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:01,990
after the Department
of Corrections
608
00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:03,490
or Psychiatric Services
609
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:05,650
or whoever it is
who's responsible for this
610
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:07,390
I'd like to know we have
a chance at winning.
611
00:23:07,630 --> 00:23:09,510
We have some work to do
before you make that call.
612
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:15,430
These are the inmates treated
at Rikers clinic
613
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:17,070
in the first six months
of last year.
614
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:19,590
These are the inmates treated
in the last six months.
615
00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:21,258
Quite a disparity.
616
00:23:21,550 --> 00:23:22,690
That's because they stopped
617
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:24,470
referring prisoners
to hospitals.
618
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:25,554
Why?
619
00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:27,110
Six months ago
620
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:29,290
the City privatized
medical treatment at Rikers.
621
00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:31,150
An HMO for inmates.
622
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:34,990
They gave
a managed-care contract
623
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:37,930
to a company called
SMJ Medical Services.
624
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,880
SMJ gets a monthly bonus
625
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,060
when it holds down costs.
626
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:42,960
Which it does
627
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,580
by not sending inmates
to hospitals.
628
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480
Which is why Brian Gallant
was never referred.
629
00:23:49,858 --> 00:23:51,526
Leon Greg--
630
00:23:51,568 --> 00:23:52,694
thirty-four.
631
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,120
He was awaiting
trial for robbery
632
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,237
and his weight
dropped 30 pounds
633
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,340
in less than two months.
634
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,000
Your medical treatment
consisted
635
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,120
of giving him an aspirin.
636
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,240
Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa.
637
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560
This is the Chief Executive
Officer of the company.
638
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,000
Our understanding is not
that you're here
639
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680
to conduct an open-ended inquiry
into inmate diagnosis.
640
00:24:11,764 --> 00:24:12,724
In the past six months
641
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,900
four inmates have died
at the Rikers clinic
642
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:18,240
three without ever seeing
the inside of a hospital.
643
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,600
Those six months correspond
644
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,160
to the period SMJ was hired
to oversee
645
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,680
the jail's
medical services.
646
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,880
That's not fair.
647
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,020
Are the terms
of your client's contract such
648
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,200
that he receives a bonus
649
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,070
for denying a prisoner
access to a hospital?
650
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:33,000
Absolutely not.
651
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,840
He receives
652
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,380
a certain amount
of incentive pay
653
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,120
for successfully
meeting targets
654
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,760
an arrangement recently upheld
655
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,720
by The United States
Supreme Court, by the way.
656
00:24:40,762 --> 00:24:41,602
Is it your reading
657
00:24:41,602 --> 00:24:42,562
of Pegram v. Herdrich
658
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,360
that people like Brian Gallant
can get released
659
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,760
without warning the authorities
660
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,250
without follow-up care?
661
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,029
Mr. Gallant had served his time.
662
00:24:50,112 --> 00:24:51,280
My client had no choice.
663
00:24:51,322 --> 00:24:52,323
Unless he was aware
664
00:24:52,364 --> 00:24:54,366
of the danger Gallant posed.
665
00:24:54,450 --> 00:24:55,400
I reviewed
666
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,400
the procedures followed
in Mr. Gallant's case.
667
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,100
I believe they were,
in all respects...
668
00:25:00,184 --> 00:25:01,769
correctly implemented.
669
00:25:03,771 --> 00:25:05,272
Doctor's prescription?
670
00:25:05,356 --> 00:25:07,358
Jessie Dobbs?
671
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,961
Is there someplace
we can talk?
672
00:25:11,002 --> 00:25:12,462
What about?
673
00:25:12,462 --> 00:25:14,040
Brian Gallant.
674
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,040
I've got nothing to say.
675
00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:16,708
You were his Case Manager.
676
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,860
You were transferred here
the day after he was arrested.
677
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,200
That's a grand jury subpoena,
Ms. Dobbs.
678
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,000
Now we can either do
this here or there.
679
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,533
What do you want?
680
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,030
I want to know who
made the decision
681
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:39,590
for Brian Gallant
to be released.
682
00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:42,683
Miss, I am little person
working for a big company.
683
00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:43,970
It's a simple
question.
684
00:25:44,530 --> 00:25:45,930
You were at Rikers
at the time.
685
00:25:46,210 --> 00:25:48,212
And I'm not at Rikers anymore,
am I?
686
00:25:48,970 --> 00:25:49,810
Were you sent here
687
00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:51,130
to keep you away
from an investigation?
688
00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:57,890
You'd have to ask them that.
689
00:25:58,170 --> 00:26:00,710
If it was your decision
to release him without meds
690
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,170
I can understand
how they might want
691
00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:03,050
to make sure
you didn't make
692
00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:03,890
the same mistake twice.
693
00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:05,010
It wasn't my decision.
694
00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:07,455
Then, whose decision was it?
695
00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:14,130
According to Jessie Dobbs, you were
the doctor responsible
696
00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:16,070
for the treatment
of inmates at Rikers.
697
00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:17,470
I oversaw the clinic.
698
00:26:18,330 --> 00:26:22,668
So for over a year, Brian
Gallant was your patient?
699
00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:25,570
I had limited
contact with him
700
00:26:25,690 --> 00:26:27,901
but, technically, I
guess I was his doctor.
701
00:26:27,901 --> 00:26:28,861
"Technically"?
702
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:30,630
I'm only at Rikers
twice a week.
703
00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:33,370
Most of his visits were handled
by his Case Manager.
704
00:26:34,450 --> 00:26:35,290
Are you suggesting
705
00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:37,150
a Physician's Assistant's
qualified
706
00:26:37,410 --> 00:26:39,130
to diagnose
his mental condition?
707
00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:42,050
I-I-I didn't hear the word
"qualified" in what he said.
708
00:26:42,050 --> 00:26:43,010
He's describing
709
00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:44,910
his contact with
the patient.
710
00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:46,590
It's his lack of contact
711
00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:47,910
that concerns us.
712
00:26:47,951 --> 00:26:49,077
11 visits
713
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:51,690
over a year's time, doctor?
714
00:26:51,890 --> 00:26:52,910
On three occasions
715
00:26:53,490 --> 00:26:56,330
Ms. Dobbs's notes indicate
Gallant was complaining
716
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:58,190
of hearing voices,
having hallucinations?
717
00:26:59,450 --> 00:27:00,710
I-I gave him
his medication.
718
00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,410
But you never
had him evaluated.
719
00:27:02,451 --> 00:27:03,411
Don't respond.
720
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:05,330
Your lawyer's right.
721
00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:07,450
Save your explanation
for a jury.
722
00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:08,971
On what charge?
723
00:27:09,013 --> 00:27:09,970
Manslaughter
724
00:27:09,970 --> 00:27:11,730
if he was aware
of the danger Gallant posed
725
00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:13,110
and recklessly ignored it.
726
00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:17,330
Do you know how many inmates
I see on any given day?
727
00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:18,170
How many?
728
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,690
Don't respond.
They want to try
729
00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:21,070
to get an indictment,
let them.
730
00:27:21,111 --> 00:27:22,196
What are you, nuts?
731
00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:29,590
Look... I did the best I could.
732
00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:32,730
I was paying off
medical school loans...
733
00:27:32,813 --> 00:27:34,148
a mortgage.
734
00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:35,240
I have two kids.
735
00:27:35,282 --> 00:27:37,951
Doesn't excuse what you did,
Doctor.
736
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,080
I wasn't allowed
to have him evaluated.
737
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:42,843
You were told that?
738
00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:45,860
Andrews fired a doctor
for making too many referrals.
739
00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:48,300
Same day,
he calls me in.
740
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,420
He asks me if I heard
about the firing
741
00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,760
and if I was familiar
with SMJ's policy
742
00:27:52,802 --> 00:27:54,262
limiting referrals.
743
00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:57,600
He told me, he hoped
I didn't make the same mistake.
744
00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:02,100
This is a very courageous man
745
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:03,280
you have sitting here.
746
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:05,600
I assume we'll be able
to work something out.
747
00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:06,820
If he testifies
748
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:08,860
his job was threatened,
there won't be any charges.
749
00:28:09,740 --> 00:28:10,700
I will ask him
750
00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:12,960
to surrender his medical license
for a year.
751
00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:15,340
That's not right.
That's not right.
752
00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,140
He took an oath,
and it wasn't to an HMO.
753
00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:19,860
He was doing the best he could
754
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:20,840
under the circumstances.
755
00:28:20,882 --> 00:28:24,677
S-Stop.
756
00:28:24,719 --> 00:28:27,597
Brian Gallant was kept sedated.
757
00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:30,800
without ever being
referred out
758
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,200
for treatment
or evaluation.
759
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:34,540
Was SMJ aware of
the danger he posed
760
00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:35,577
to the public?
761
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:36,780
Dr. Sanders will testify
762
00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:39,120
that Phillip Andrews fired
another doctor at Rikers
763
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:41,060
for excessive
hospital referrals
764
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,060
and, then,
threatened to fire him
765
00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:44,060
if he did
the same thing.
766
00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:46,675
Which, of course,
Phillip Andrews will deny doing.
767
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:49,960
If it comes down to credibility,
I think we're in good shape.
768
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:53,272
No, it comes down
to more than that.
769
00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:55,300
If we go in there
770
00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:58,120
and start taking potshots
at HMOs, first of all
771
00:28:58,180 --> 00:29:00,820
we're flying in the face
of Pegram v. Herdrich
772
00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:04,300
and, then, secondly,
what if we prevail?
773
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,280
I mean, what does that do
to a healthcare system
774
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,420
that depends on HMOs to
provide their treatment?
775
00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:10,260
You're not suggesting
776
00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:11,970
we give them a free pass
because of that?
777
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,739
No, I'm suggesting we look
778
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:16,580
at the fallout
that's likely to ensue
779
00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:19,020
and be sure and differentiate
780
00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:21,720
the conduct of this HMO
from the conduct
781
00:29:21,940 --> 00:29:23,300
of HMOs in general.
782
00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:26,440
That said,
I'd like nothing better
783
00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:28,440
than to hang their heads
on our wall.
784
00:29:31,568 --> 00:29:32,528
Phillip Andrews?
785
00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:33,530
Yes?
786
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:35,850
You're under arrest
for manslaughter
787
00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:37,775
in the death
of Stephanie Donnatelli.
788
00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:39,410
"Manslaughter"?
What is this, a prank?
789
00:29:39,451 --> 00:29:40,411
No prank.
790
00:29:40,550 --> 00:29:42,885
Then, there's been
a big fat mistake.
791
00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:44,890
Get your commanding officer
on the phone.
792
00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:47,110
I want to hear from him
that I should be arrested.
793
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:48,350
On your feet, pal.
794
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:49,550
Your coverage
doesn't provide
795
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:50,630
for a second opinion.
796
00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:56,111
Gallant was a patient
797
00:29:56,111 --> 00:29:57,655
at the clinic at Rikers Island?
798
00:29:57,696 --> 00:29:58,656
Yes.
799
00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:01,116
For what complaint?
800
00:30:01,470 --> 00:30:02,470
He originally presented
801
00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:05,470
with periodic
auditory-command hallucinations
802
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:07,430
uh, some delusional
behavior.
803
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:08,590
What was done for him?
804
00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:11,670
He was given varying doses
of Halcyon, Ativan and Valium.
805
00:30:11,910 --> 00:30:14,830
Was he ever referred to a psychiatric
hospital for evaluation?
806
00:30:14,871 --> 00:30:15,831
No.
807
00:30:15,873 --> 00:30:16,874
Why not?
808
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:20,190
Mr. Gallant didn't meet
the criteria established
809
00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:22,130
by my employer for a
psychiatric referral.
810
00:30:23,390 --> 00:30:24,870
Which criteria were those?
811
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:26,080
Mr. Gallant was
812
00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:27,690
controllable with medication.
813
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:30,630
If I made the referral,
I'd have been fired.
814
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:32,970
Objection. Introduces facts
not in evidence.
815
00:30:33,012 --> 00:30:34,597
Overruled.
816
00:30:34,990 --> 00:30:36,590
Why do you say you would've been
fired?
817
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:38,550
Objection. Calls for speculation.
Overruled.
818
00:30:38,592 --> 00:30:40,260
You're annoying me, Mr. Axtell.
819
00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:42,750
Another physician
at the clinic
820
00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:45,090
had referred an inmate
under a similar situation
821
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:46,270
and was terminated.
822
00:30:47,150 --> 00:30:48,390
Phillip Andrews warned me
823
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:49,470
not to make the
same mistake.
824
00:30:50,350 --> 00:30:51,830
What was your last contact
825
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:54,609
with Mr. Gallant
prior to his release?
826
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:57,474
That would've been
on September 8.
827
00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:01,685
What, if anything,
transpired on that occasion?
828
00:31:01,910 --> 00:31:02,890
I... I gave him his medication.
829
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:07,730
September 8 was four days
before Mr. Gallant's release.
830
00:31:07,771 --> 00:31:08,731
Yes.
831
00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:09,990
Was he examined
832
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:11,158
on the day of
his release?
833
00:31:11,199 --> 00:31:12,270
No.
834
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:13,430
Was he given
any medication
835
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,586
for him to take
subsequent to his release?
836
00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:17,670
No.
837
00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:19,441
Why was that?
838
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:22,070
He wasn't SMJ's problem anymore.
839
00:31:22,111 --> 00:31:23,112
Objection.
840
00:31:23,154 --> 00:31:24,697
That's sustained.
841
00:31:26,699 --> 00:31:27,992
Nothing further.
842
00:31:28,034 --> 00:31:28,994
Dr. Sanders
843
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:32,000
to the best of your
knowledge, Phillip Andrews
844
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,658
is not himself a doctor,
isn't that right?
845
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,260
I don't believe he is, no.
846
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,262
So, you understood,
did you not
847
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,140
that he relied
on the determinations
848
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,360
of doctors,
such as yourself
849
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,801
to assess treatment?
850
00:31:43,843 --> 00:31:44,886
Yes.
851
00:31:44,927 --> 00:31:49,432
Did you ever tell him
you believed Brian Gallant
852
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,040
to be psychotic?
853
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,414
No, I didn't.
854
00:31:53,456 --> 00:31:55,833
No.
855
00:31:55,875 --> 00:31:57,418
Did you ever tell him
856
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,240
Brian Gallant constituted
a threat to himself or others?
857
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,080
No.
858
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,540
Oh. Was that information
on his chart?
859
00:32:03,582 --> 00:32:04,760
No.
860
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,389
Was he supposed to sense it
from crystals or magical beans?
861
00:32:08,431 --> 00:32:10,057
Objection.
Sustained.
862
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Wasn't it your responsibility,
Doctor, to tell him?
863
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600
He wanted me to take care of it
864
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,380
the cheapest way possible,
period.
865
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,520
The State Board of Review
has revoked your license
866
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,096
to practice medicine,
isn't that so, Doctor?
867
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,016
Yes.
868
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,242
I'll bet you got somebody else
to blame
869
00:32:30,242 --> 00:32:31,082
for that, too.
870
00:32:31,082 --> 00:32:33,000
Objection.
871
00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:34,210
Withdrawn.
872
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,020
I hear these voices
inside my head.
873
00:32:45,062 --> 00:32:48,899
Sometimes, it's worse
than other times.
874
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,160
How was it
during the time
875
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,575
you were incarcerated
on Rikers Island?
876
00:32:52,617 --> 00:32:53,577
Bad.
877
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Did you bring that
to the attention
878
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,419
of the prison doctor?
879
00:32:56,461 --> 00:32:57,421
Yes.
880
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,174
What did he do?
881
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Gave me medicine.
882
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Were you ever examined
by a psychiatrist?
883
00:33:04,122 --> 00:33:05,123
No.
884
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Did you ever ask
885
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,460
to be examined
by a psychiatrist?
886
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,980
I told them I was having trouble
with voices.
887
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,480
I told them it was
keeping me up nights--
888
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,180
my bad uncle and my good uncle
889
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,000
saying about bringing the car
down from Yonkers.
890
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
I said, "I ain't bringing
no car down from Yonkers."
891
00:33:27,643 --> 00:33:29,520
That's right.
892
00:33:31,330 --> 00:33:32,510
On the day you were released...
893
00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:36,594
were you given any medication?
894
00:33:38,304 --> 00:33:39,805
No.
895
00:33:41,432 --> 00:33:42,392
Thank you.
896
00:33:42,434 --> 00:33:43,727
Nothing further.
897
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:52,690
What did you do with
the token they gave you?
898
00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:53,530
I used it.
899
00:33:53,530 --> 00:33:54,781
Used it to go
into Manhattan?
900
00:33:55,730 --> 00:33:57,570
Where you hit a woman
over the head
901
00:33:57,650 --> 00:34:00,111
with a paving stone
and killed her?
902
00:34:00,153 --> 00:34:02,655
I'm sorry.
903
00:34:03,490 --> 00:34:04,750
I know you say
you're sorry, but...
904
00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:07,836
you did know what you were
doing, didn't you?
905
00:34:07,878 --> 00:34:09,250
Objection. Irrelevant.
906
00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:10,090
This man's
state of mind
907
00:34:10,130 --> 00:34:11,990
is what my client is
on trial for, Your Honor.
908
00:34:12,031 --> 00:34:13,116
No, Counselor.
909
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:14,990
Your client is on trial
910
00:34:15,130 --> 00:34:16,930
for what he
allegedly did.
911
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:19,070
I will allow you
some leeway on cross.
912
00:34:20,410 --> 00:34:21,270
On the day you
pled guilty
913
00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:23,170
to manslaughter,
Mr. Gallant
914
00:34:23,170 --> 00:34:25,010
did you or did you not,
in front of this same judge
915
00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:28,050
say that you were the person
916
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:31,410
responsible for the death
of Stephanie Donnatelli?
917
00:34:31,451 --> 00:34:33,412
Yes.
918
00:34:34,496 --> 00:34:36,373
I'm done.
919
00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:41,316
Redirect, Your Honor.
920
00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:44,210
Mr. Gallant, can you tell us
why you committed
921
00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:45,587
this horrible crime?
922
00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:47,290
My bad uncle.
923
00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:49,030
Your bad
uncle
924
00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:51,584
told you to?
925
00:34:51,625 --> 00:34:52,751
Yes.
926
00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:57,100
Does he talk to you
all the time?
927
00:34:57,142 --> 00:34:58,610
No.
928
00:34:58,610 --> 00:35:01,237
When doesn't he
talk to you?
929
00:35:01,770 --> 00:35:02,870
When I take my medicine.
930
00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:05,710
Then he stays in Yonkers.
931
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:12,090
I have nothing further.
932
00:35:16,090 --> 00:35:18,250
Three weeks ago, we said
Brian Gallant was responsible.
933
00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:20,590
Now we seem to be saying
someone else is responsible.
934
00:35:21,010 --> 00:35:22,010
That's got to hurt us.
935
00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:25,790
He was found competent by a
court-appointed psychiatrist.
936
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,140
If that psychiatrist
hadn't found him competent
937
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:28,980
I would have found
938
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:29,820
another one
who did.
939
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:30,740
It's called prosecuting.
940
00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:33,820
In any event, this one
could go either way.
941
00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:35,060
You have a defendant
942
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,600
responsible for sending
a dangerous psychotic
943
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:39,440
out among the citizens
of New York.
944
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:42,340
Whatever excuses he has--
945
00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:44,500
whatever excuses
the two of you have
946
00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:47,920
now that you've gone after him,
I want you to run him to ground.
947
00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:57,287
SMJ's is a for-profit company.
948
00:35:57,420 --> 00:35:58,720
I'm not ashamed to admit that
949
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,040
but at no time did I ever
allow finances
950
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,200
to dictate the course
of medical treatment.
951
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:06,800
To what do you attribute
the decline
952
00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:08,420
in hospital referrals?
953
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:09,280
I attribute it
954
00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:11,300
to improved medical service at the jail.
955
00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:13,880
By focusing on efficiency
956
00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,260
we've been able to cut
the need for hospitalization.
957
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:18,700
What about
in Brian Gallant's case?
958
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,160
I suspect
Mr. Gallant's case
959
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,280
would present a challenge
to any clinician.
960
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,420
Given that the severity
of it was never communicated
961
00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:28,640
to me, I was in no position to effectively
962
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,660
monitor his
treatment regime.
963
00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:31,500
Had it been...
964
00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:34,720
maybe there would have
been a different outcome.
965
00:36:34,762 --> 00:36:36,805
Thank you.
966
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,960
Inmates diagnosed
with heartburn
967
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:44,940
who turn out
to have coronaries.
968
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,680
HIV patients left untreated.
969
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:51,420
Psych patients left
unevaluated.
970
00:36:51,462 --> 00:36:55,300
Is that your idea of improved
medical service
971
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:56,140
Mr. Andrews?
972
00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:58,820
I'm not satisfied with
our diagnostic success rate.
973
00:36:59,020 --> 00:36:59,960
And I think you're going to see
974
00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:01,580
a steady improvement
on that score.
975
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,520
What you have to keep
in mind
976
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:05,580
is, we're still in
the shake-out cruise
977
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:06,420
of a new program.
978
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:08,400
You're responsible
for the bottom line
979
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:10,660
on the shake-out cruise
are you not, Mr. Andrews?
980
00:37:10,660 --> 00:37:11,500
Yes, I am.
981
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,540
And there's no question
982
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,180
but that the bottom line
is helped
983
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:17,320
the fewer hospital referrals
are made?
984
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,060
Like it or not, medical care
is a business today.
985
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:24,060
No HMO can survive without
conducting a realistic
986
00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:25,600
cost-benefit
analysis
987
00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:27,350
of its treatment
protocols.
988
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:30,670
Brian Gallant was treated
11 times.
989
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:33,630
Three violent altercations.
990
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:35,750
Another five visits
991
00:37:36,070 --> 00:37:37,350
for irrational
behavior.
992
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:38,930
Was your failure
993
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:42,950
to authorize even one
psychiatric referral
994
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:45,830
part of the cost-benefit
analysis?
995
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:46,670
I was relying
996
00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:48,390
on the clinic physician's
observations
997
00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:50,410
to determine
a course of treatment.
998
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:53,650
You had him on tranquilizers
nonstop.
999
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:55,270
I didn't have him on anything.
1000
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:57,170
That was Sander's call.
1001
00:37:58,270 --> 00:37:59,950
And by the way,
according to his chart
1002
00:38:00,550 --> 00:38:02,010
he was responding
to the medication.
1003
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:04,059
So you were reviewing
his medical chart?
1004
00:38:07,896 --> 00:38:09,939
Mr. Andrews?
1005
00:38:09,981 --> 00:38:11,733
Periodically, yes.
1006
00:38:12,670 --> 00:38:14,390
You were being
kept aware
1007
00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:17,050
of his progress, or lack thereof
1008
00:38:17,091 --> 00:38:19,761
periodically?
1009
00:38:19,802 --> 00:38:20,710
Yes.
1010
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:23,463
And you were authorizing
his medication?
1011
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:25,870
I was authorizing
the expenditure.
1012
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:28,490
I'm not the prescribing physician.
1013
00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:34,870
Tell the jury
1014
00:38:35,470 --> 00:38:37,290
what Mr. Gallant's
complaint was
1015
00:38:37,870 --> 00:38:40,610
the last three times
he was seen at the clinic.
1016
00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:47,350
There's no complaint indicated.
1017
00:38:47,434 --> 00:38:48,852
No complaint?
1018
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:50,830
In a company
1019
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,550
as cost conscious
as yours
1020
00:38:53,310 --> 00:38:54,270
isn't it a fact
1021
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:55,690
that the only reason
1022
00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:57,650
you would be spending
money on medication
1023
00:38:58,070 --> 00:38:59,250
where there was no complaint
1024
00:38:59,830 --> 00:39:01,790
would be to prevent what was otherwise
inevitable?
1025
00:39:01,790 --> 00:39:02,630
No.
1026
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:03,610
Because you knew
1027
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:06,790
that it was inevitable
that without medication
1028
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:09,510
Brian Gallant would
become violent.
1029
00:39:09,712 --> 00:39:10,552
That's not true.
1030
00:39:10,552 --> 00:39:11,512
When the time came
1031
00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:13,750
you were only too happy
to see him go
1032
00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:18,030
because a hospital stay
or a psychiatric evaluation
1033
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:21,350
would have been contrary to your
cost-benefit analysis.
1034
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:23,670
Objection. Counsel's making
speeches.
1035
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,800
Ask a question, Mr. McCoy.
1036
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,700
Isn't it a fact, that you knew
exactly what kind of danger
1037
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,720
Brian Gallant posed
upon being released?
1038
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:35,640
I didn't know.
1039
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,060
You didn't want to know.
1040
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,740
The big bad HMO.
1041
00:39:48,781 --> 00:39:51,326
Uncaring, unfeeling.
1042
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Placing profits
before people
1043
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,000
in its savage quest
to make money.
1044
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,560
A convenient
political target
1045
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,980
if ever there was one.
1046
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Criminally responsible
for one man killing another man?
1047
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,700
Not on your life.
1048
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,020
If there were
an outbreak
1049
00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:14,188
of tuberculosis
1050
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,840
or if prisoners
were dying
1051
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,600
due to negligent
medical care
1052
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,780
Phillip Andrews would have
to answer for that.
1053
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,240
If he took a money-be-damned
approach
1054
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,040
and dispensed medical care
at Rikers Island
1055
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,240
as if it were the Mayo Clinic
1056
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,460
he would have to answer
for that, too
1057
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,360
and I might add...
1058
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120
answer to you,
the taxpayers, as well.
1059
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,680
So he does
his job...
1060
00:40:37,763 --> 00:40:39,431
professionally
1061
00:40:39,431 --> 00:40:41,642
compassionately.
1062
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,780
And for doing his job
1063
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,500
they want to send him to jail.
1064
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,620
A few short
weeks ago
1065
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,020
Brian Gallant
pled guilty
1066
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,960
to Manslaughter
in the First Degree--
1067
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,100
a plea that could
only be entered
1068
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,800
with the approval
of this prosecutor.
1069
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,200
And now, this same
prosecutor
1070
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560
is back here with
bigger fish to fry.
1071
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,340
Don't let the political
ambitions of a District Attorney
1072
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,580
pervert this court of law.
1073
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,510
Whatever political capital
Mr. McCoy and his boss
1074
00:41:22,810 --> 00:41:23,930
can extract from it
1075
00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:28,490
don't let it be done
to our system of justice.
1076
00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:31,090
Don't let it happen
1077
00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:34,310
to this innocent man.
1078
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:43,290
No one should be
heard to say
1079
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:47,430
that providing medical care
at Rikers Island is easy.
1080
00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:50,050
Nor is it the position
1081
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:53,330
of this District Attorney's
office that there aren't
1082
00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:56,910
legitimate financial
constraints on the provider.
1083
00:41:57,490 --> 00:41:58,870
We've heard that the defendant
1084
00:41:59,170 --> 00:42:00,610
operating under those
constraints
1085
00:42:01,130 --> 00:42:03,950
is just a simple man
doing the best he could.
1086
00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:05,810
Let's look at that
a little bit.
1087
00:42:08,410 --> 00:42:11,430
Brian Gallant was at Rikers
for a year.
1088
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:14,350
He was medicated
on a daily basis
1089
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:16,090
by the defendant's
company
1090
00:42:16,570 --> 00:42:18,070
with the defendant's
knowledge.
1091
00:42:18,490 --> 00:42:19,730
On the day
he was released
1092
00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:21,510
he was hallucinating
1093
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:22,761
and disoriented.
1094
00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:27,090
Nonetheless, he was handed over
to the Department of Corrections
1095
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:28,290
who dropped him off
1096
00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:29,970
at a subway station
in the middle of the night.
1097
00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:32,150
He was given
no medication
1098
00:42:32,610 --> 00:42:34,950
no referral for ongoing care.
1099
00:42:34,991 --> 00:42:37,160
Not an address to go to.
1100
00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:39,370
Not a phone number to call.
1101
00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:43,690
This was not done by accident
or oversight.
1102
00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:48,570
This was the express
instruction of the defendant.
1103
00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:53,250
Was not the violent
behavior of Brian Gallant
1104
00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:56,511
a foreseeable event?
1105
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:59,510
Was not the defendant
well aware
1106
00:43:00,170 --> 00:43:02,050
not only of Mr. Gallant's
propensities
1107
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:04,870
but of the risk he constituted
1108
00:43:05,370 --> 00:43:08,081
for every person
he came in contact with?
1109
00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:11,110
The answer is, of course
he was aware of it.
1110
00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:14,690
Of course, he chose
to ignore it.
1111
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:17,370
Of course, it was
his recklessness
1112
00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:18,890
that brought about
1113
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:19,730
this woman's death.
1114
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:22,960
Find him guilty,
ladies and gentlemen.
1115
00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:24,880
He deserves it.
1116
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:37,319
Madame Forelady, I understand the
jury's reached a verdict?
1117
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,220
We have.
1118
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:39,480
On the first count
of the indictment
1119
00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:41,700
charging Manslaughter
in the Second Degree
1120
00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:44,400
we find the defendant
not guilty.
1121
00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:47,160
On the lesser
included charge
1122
00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:49,060
of Criminally
Negligent Homicide
1123
00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:51,660
we find the defendant guilty.
1124
00:44:03,755 --> 00:44:04,965
Okay, bye-bye.
1125
00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:07,640
Dateline wants
to interview me
1126
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:08,540
about the verdict.
1127
00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:11,231
Jane Pauley or Stone Phillips?
1128
00:44:11,231 --> 00:44:12,191
Stone Phillips.
1129
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:13,680
They'll probably try
to get you to say
1130
00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:15,980
it opens the door
to massive malpractice claims.
1131
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:17,927
Well, it's worth it
if it changes the way
1132
00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:19,520
HMOs do business in this city.
1133
00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:21,520
How much time will Andrews serve
1134
00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:22,660
with good behavior?
1135
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:23,500
Under a year.
1136
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:25,877
Good, that means jail,
not state prison.
1137
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:27,260
He'll serve it at Rikers.
1138
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,780
Let's hope he has
a good immune system.
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