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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,760 In the criminal justice system In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,040 the people are represented 3 00:00:03,082 --> 00:00:05,710 by two separate yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,520 the police, who investigate crime 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,160 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,700 These are their stories. 7 00:00:13,077 --> 00:00:17,665 ...1-19, 1-19, 119. 8 00:00:17,706 --> 00:00:18,999 Excuse me. 9 00:00:19,041 --> 00:00:20,125 Excuse me. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,677 Officers, there's a homeless woman... 11 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:26,120 There's a homeless woman at the end of the platform. 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,760 She's being eyed by some men 13 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,080 and I'm concerned that she's vulnerable. 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,360 What do you mean, "vulnerable"? 15 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,600 I mean, she's asleep on the bench 16 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,560 and she's vulnerable. 17 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,740 All right, lady, calm down. 18 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,920 Show us what you're talking about. 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,400 What are you looking at? 20 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,220 Come on, dear, rise and shine. 21 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,844 Hold on, Manny. 22 00:00:51,390 --> 00:00:53,392 Oh, dear God. 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,180 How come they call the Squad 24 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,903 for a DOA on a subway platform? 25 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,460 Maybe it's a person of great renown. 26 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Maybe they thought we didn't have anything else to do. 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Come on, folks, let's go. 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,800 You two the ones found the body? Yeah. 29 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Anybody see how it happened? 30 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Not so far. 31 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:14,738 Cause of death? 32 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,844 Paramedic's best guess is, uh, cerebral hemorrhage. 33 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,680 There's an abrasion on her scalp-- 34 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,180 maybe from a fall, maybe not. 35 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,724 They figure she's been dead about two hours. 36 00:01:22,724 --> 00:01:23,564 Not much blood. 37 00:01:23,564 --> 00:01:25,149 You got an I.D.? 38 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,000 M.E. gave us 39 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,360 a green light to tag and bag. 40 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,680 All I found were house keys, a Metrocard... 41 00:01:30,961 --> 00:01:31,801 some kind of receipt. 42 00:01:31,801 --> 00:01:32,886 No purse? 43 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,751 If she had one, it's gone. 44 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,420 Well-dressed... nails done. 45 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,180 She puts in an honest day's work 46 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,483 then waits for the Downtown Local to go home. 47 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Yeah... and she caught the Express. 48 00:02:34,930 --> 00:02:36,570 "Single blunt force trauma 49 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:38,330 to the vertex of the skull." 50 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:40,410 You know, it's hard to fall on the top of your head. 51 00:02:41,050 --> 00:02:42,710 The hemorrhage was at the point of impact. 52 00:02:43,010 --> 00:02:44,386 M.E. have any idea what was used? 53 00:02:44,428 --> 00:02:45,388 Yep. 54 00:02:45,410 --> 00:02:46,250 They found particles 55 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:48,950 of cement and asphalt in her scalp. 56 00:02:49,170 --> 00:02:51,090 You mean like one of those paving stones? 57 00:02:51,090 --> 00:02:52,810 Hey, they were working on the station. 58 00:02:52,810 --> 00:02:53,930 That's what was laying around. 59 00:02:55,450 --> 00:02:56,510 Looks like a hit-and-run. 60 00:02:57,370 --> 00:02:58,210 All right. Thanks. 61 00:02:59,330 --> 00:03:01,150 No one's filed a report with Missing Persons 62 00:03:01,370 --> 00:03:02,210 fitting her description. 63 00:03:02,810 --> 00:03:04,330 Which could mean she was from out of town. 64 00:03:04,371 --> 00:03:05,915 Oh, that's just what we need: 65 00:03:06,130 --> 00:03:08,450 "Female Tourist Beaten To Death On The Subway." 66 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:11,370 No, she was dressed more like a business woman than a tourist. 67 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:12,570 Metrocard ride history. 68 00:03:12,612 --> 00:03:14,114 Thanks. 69 00:03:14,155 --> 00:03:15,115 Let's see. 70 00:03:15,330 --> 00:03:16,470 Repeated evening entries 71 00:03:16,690 --> 00:03:18,470 at the station where the body was found... 72 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:22,210 corresponding morning entries at Franklin Street. 73 00:03:22,450 --> 00:03:23,993 So, not a tourist. 74 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:25,850 We'll canvas with the photo 75 00:03:25,850 --> 00:03:27,390 see if somebody can tell us who she is. 76 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:30,101 Sorry. 77 00:03:31,530 --> 00:03:33,030 Her Metrocard indicates 78 00:03:33,290 --> 00:03:35,030 that she came through here Tuesday morning. 79 00:03:35,072 --> 00:03:37,050 Sorry. 80 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,850 Nothing about her jumps out? Sorry. 81 00:03:38,892 --> 00:03:39,890 Is this 82 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:40,933 the only entrance? 83 00:03:41,890 --> 00:03:42,910 For uptown service. 84 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:45,584 Downtown, you have to go across the street. 85 00:03:46,290 --> 00:03:47,190 I know, you're sorry. 86 00:03:52,290 --> 00:03:53,130 Excuse me, sir. 87 00:03:54,010 --> 00:03:55,210 You here every day? 88 00:03:55,210 --> 00:03:56,050 Rain or shine, boss. 89 00:03:56,170 --> 00:03:58,172 Do you recognize this woman? 90 00:03:58,820 --> 00:03:59,940 She don't look so good. 91 00:04:00,380 --> 00:04:02,173 Well, you'll have to forgive her-- she's dead. 92 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:03,540 Take a look. 93 00:04:04,780 --> 00:04:06,160 If she is the lady I'm thinking 94 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:09,719 she's a Wall Street Journal, a Times, New Yorker 95 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,761 Advocate. 96 00:04:10,761 --> 00:04:11,340 Advocate? 97 00:04:11,340 --> 00:04:12,180 A gay monthly. 98 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:13,940 You notice which way she comes from? 99 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:15,149 Oh, from across the street 100 00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:18,000 and if she's the same lady, she always had a cup of coffee. 101 00:04:18,042 --> 00:04:19,376 Thank you. 102 00:04:23,380 --> 00:04:24,420 Two? Lennie: We're trying to put a name 103 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:25,440 to this woman's face. 104 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:27,820 We want to know if she gets her morning coffee here. 105 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:28,660 Sheila does the take-out. 106 00:04:28,660 --> 00:04:31,079 Sheila, Sheila, come here a sec. 107 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:34,540 These, uh, police are looking for this broad. 108 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:36,580 We actually want to know if somebody recognizes her. 109 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:38,380 Yeah. I know her. 110 00:04:38,740 --> 00:04:39,940 Comes in every morning for coffee. 111 00:04:39,940 --> 00:04:40,780 Haven't seen her 112 00:04:40,780 --> 00:04:41,620 in a few days. 113 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:43,328 Do you know her name? No. 114 00:04:43,660 --> 00:04:44,500 What happened to her? 115 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:46,575 Do you know if she lived around here? 116 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:48,499 You're not going to tell me what happened? 117 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:49,540 She died. 118 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:53,211 Yeah, well... I can tell that from the picture. 119 00:04:53,780 --> 00:04:57,120 Another person I know gone, and this one had kids. 120 00:04:57,380 --> 00:04:59,200 How do you know that? Every other week 121 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:00,440 she's in here with new pictures 122 00:05:00,620 --> 00:05:02,200 that she just picked up from next door. 123 00:05:02,242 --> 00:05:04,578 Thanks. Yeah. 124 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:07,844 Maybe ours; maybe not ours. 125 00:05:08,180 --> 00:05:09,300 Uh, what if somebody 126 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:11,176 doesn't pick them up right away? 127 00:05:11,176 --> 00:05:12,595 In here. 128 00:05:25,260 --> 00:05:26,140 It's dated two weeks ago. 129 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:27,940 The name on it's "Donnatelli." 130 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:29,020 Is there a first name 131 00:05:29,140 --> 00:05:31,080 or an account number? Only last name. 132 00:05:31,122 --> 00:05:32,582 Oh. 133 00:05:32,623 --> 00:05:33,666 It's her. 134 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:37,860 There's a number six on the building. 135 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:38,700 We're going to need these. 136 00:05:38,741 --> 00:05:40,451 $12.41. 137 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:44,604 I should pay? 138 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:50,540 Van Buren: How are we making out? 139 00:05:50,540 --> 00:05:53,020 There's 17 Donnatellis listed in the book 140 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:54,900 none of them with an address in that neighborhood. 141 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:56,310 Well, I don't care if we have 142 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:57,890 to try her house keys door-to-door. 143 00:05:57,990 --> 00:06:00,110 When The Post runs that picture on the front page 144 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:01,330 we're going to have a suspect. 145 00:06:01,950 --> 00:06:04,070 Well, apparently, she takes an interest 146 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:06,790 in gay periodicals, if that's significant. 147 00:06:06,832 --> 00:06:09,501 Hey, uh, Stephanie Donnatelli. 148 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:11,430 611 West 18 Street. 149 00:06:11,910 --> 00:06:13,670 Hey, there's a six in the photograph. 150 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:15,450 DMV faxed us driver's license photos 151 00:06:15,630 --> 00:06:17,390 of every female Donnatelli over 21. 152 00:06:17,432 --> 00:06:18,392 Hmm. 153 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:22,590 If she lives on West 18 Street 154 00:06:22,590 --> 00:06:23,570 why does she get the subway 155 00:06:23,612 --> 00:06:24,696 at Franklin? 156 00:06:24,738 --> 00:06:25,780 Good question. 157 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:26,990 Maybe we should see 158 00:06:26,990 --> 00:06:28,250 who else lives at this address. 159 00:06:34,299 --> 00:06:35,550 Yes? 160 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:37,150 New York City detectives. 161 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:39,630 Is this the home of Stephanie Donnatelli? 162 00:06:39,630 --> 00:06:42,000 It's the home of her children and her ex-husband. 163 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Why? 164 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:45,095 Uh, may we come up? 165 00:06:47,630 --> 00:06:49,350 I wondered why I hadn't heard from her. 166 00:06:50,190 --> 00:06:52,270 She was supposed to take the kids to a matinee. 167 00:06:52,990 --> 00:06:54,491 You didn't call? 168 00:06:58,110 --> 00:06:58,990 I figured she forgot... 169 00:07:00,430 --> 00:07:01,610 even though it's not like her to forget 170 00:07:01,790 --> 00:07:03,210 and I was pissed and surprised 171 00:07:03,430 --> 00:07:05,890 I figured... she had a lot going on at work. 172 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:08,130 I didn't want to make a whole thing of it. 173 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:10,910 I should have called. 174 00:07:11,750 --> 00:07:14,310 Steph never would have forgotten something involving the kids. 175 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:17,870 Where did she work? 176 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:18,710 She was a... 177 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:20,830 book editor at Arcade Publishing. 178 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:23,071 They're at 23rd and Broadway. 179 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:24,610 That's a block away from the subway. 180 00:07:24,652 --> 00:07:26,571 Look, uh... 181 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:29,530 I know that, uh... 182 00:07:30,430 --> 00:07:32,350 this is lousy time to ask questions like this 183 00:07:32,470 --> 00:07:34,190 but... we have to know 184 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:36,250 who might have known your ex-wife. 185 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:39,602 Now, can you tell us anything about her private affairs? 186 00:07:41,030 --> 00:07:43,190 You mean, like, her sex life? 187 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:44,030 Anything at all. 188 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:47,830 At the age of 30 189 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:48,970 Stephanie came to the conclusion 190 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:50,110 that she was gay. 191 00:07:53,070 --> 00:07:54,120 She still loved me. 192 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,220 I still loved her. 193 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,180 She adored her kids. 194 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,080 We just needed 195 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,980 to stop living together as husband and wife. 196 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,109 Was she involved with anyone? 197 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,120 She hadn't been for a long time. 198 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,440 This last month or so 199 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,020 she's called me up on the phone at night 200 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,740 and we've talked and talked and... 201 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,580 she's told me how... how lonely she is. 202 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,060 We're really sorry for your loss. 203 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Can you think of anything 204 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,240 she might have had with her-- 205 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,548 jewelry, a watch, an address book? 206 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Uh... she had a... one of those funny watches 207 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,460 a Swatch watch, I think it is 208 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,200 with Winnie-the-Pooh on it. 209 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,660 She had different pins, different bracelets. 210 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,420 There wasn't one that she wore all the time. 211 00:08:45,462 --> 00:08:47,464 Uh... 212 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,260 There was a-a cross that my mother gave her-- 213 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,620 a little gold cross 214 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,620 that she did wear all the time. 215 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Yeah, we showed the photograph 216 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,260 around some bars near where she lived. 217 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,600 No one recognized her 218 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:08,360 and the ex-husband says that wasn't her scene. 219 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,400 So, if some nut case goes after a woman with a paving stone 220 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,318 its the Konchalavsky woman all over again. 221 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,896 They guy went away, right? 222 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,920 It's a copycat. 223 00:09:15,943 --> 00:09:17,153 Right. Thanks. 224 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Well, apparently, even though she's dead, her credit isn't. 225 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,320 Somebody used her American Express card. 226 00:09:24,864 --> 00:09:26,032 You don't check I.D.s.? 227 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Well, it's the cashier's responsibility 228 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,280 to do that. 229 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,360 I don't know what happened in this instance. 230 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:33,860 The transaction record says 231 00:09:33,944 --> 00:09:35,987 the credit approval came in at 11:43. 232 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Okay. Fast forwarding. 233 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,300 I take it those persons don't have authorization 234 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,690 to use that credit card. 235 00:09:53,250 --> 00:09:54,501 Ooh, you're good. 236 00:09:54,730 --> 00:09:55,910 I'll make a copy of the tape. 237 00:09:56,490 --> 00:09:58,325 No. We'll make a copy. 238 00:10:01,770 --> 00:10:03,439 We're sure the cashier didn't know them? 239 00:10:03,850 --> 00:10:05,090 We talked to her on the way out. 240 00:10:05,210 --> 00:10:06,050 She said no. 241 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:07,450 Well, when you do find the girls 242 00:10:07,450 --> 00:10:10,050 I want you to add a charge of felony bad taste. 243 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:12,271 Wearing white after Labor Day? 244 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:13,990 Someone just used the card again. 245 00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:15,970 Movie theater-- 107th and Broadway. 246 00:10:25,980 --> 00:10:26,940 I don't even know you. 247 00:10:27,330 --> 00:10:28,832 How was the movie, ladies? 248 00:10:28,930 --> 00:10:29,889 Do I know you? 249 00:10:29,930 --> 00:10:30,930 No, but I know you. 250 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:31,770 You're both under arrest 251 00:10:31,930 --> 00:10:33,290 for possession of stolen property. 252 00:10:33,332 --> 00:10:34,416 Let's go. 253 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:37,070 I found that card. 254 00:10:37,370 --> 00:10:39,250 Sure, and it just happened to be in the pocket 255 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:40,570 of the woman it belonged to. 256 00:10:40,612 --> 00:10:41,572 Please! 257 00:10:41,730 --> 00:10:43,030 Let me break it down for you, sweetheart. 258 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:44,650 That card belonged to a woman 259 00:10:44,770 --> 00:10:45,850 who is now dead. 260 00:10:46,490 --> 00:10:48,050 She was murdered on her way home from work. 261 00:10:48,530 --> 00:10:49,730 We don't know nothing about that. 262 00:10:49,890 --> 00:10:50,730 Possession of a stolen 263 00:10:50,930 --> 00:10:52,090 credit card's a felony. 264 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:54,170 If you didn't commit the murder yourselves 265 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:55,964 you're at least an accessory after the fact. 266 00:10:56,290 --> 00:10:57,950 Book 'em on that, and take 'em up to Central. 267 00:10:57,992 --> 00:10:59,326 Hold up! Wait a minute! 268 00:10:59,368 --> 00:11:00,369 We didn't... 269 00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:01,830 We have no choice. 270 00:11:02,250 --> 00:11:03,290 They're just messing with us. 271 00:11:03,332 --> 00:11:05,292 You think? 272 00:11:07,930 --> 00:11:10,090 What time's the next wagon leave for Central booking? 273 00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:11,160 About 15 minutes. 274 00:11:11,450 --> 00:11:12,450 Add these two to the list. 275 00:11:12,610 --> 00:11:13,770 Wait a minute! Wait! Hold up! 276 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:16,351 Darlene, don't you say nothing. 277 00:11:16,393 --> 00:11:17,353 I can't be going through this. 278 00:11:17,395 --> 00:11:18,938 I got to graduate junior college. 279 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:21,315 Who gave you the card? 280 00:11:21,357 --> 00:11:23,250 Don't you say nothing, Darlene. 281 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:24,530 Trey Wiles gave us that card. 282 00:11:26,450 --> 00:11:27,409 Who's Trey Wiles? 283 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:28,770 Her boyfriend, and he works 284 00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:30,790 in shipping on 7th Avenue and 39th street. 285 00:11:30,970 --> 00:11:31,950 She's a spiteful bitch! 286 00:11:32,050 --> 00:11:33,650 She know Trey ain't had nothing to do with this. 287 00:11:34,010 --> 00:11:38,265 You still going to put us on that wagon? 288 00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:40,058 Keep it coming. 289 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:42,130 Trey Wiles? Yeah. 290 00:11:42,172 --> 00:11:44,132 Put your hands behind your back, bro. 291 00:11:44,132 --> 00:11:45,092 Hey, what's up with this? 292 00:11:45,134 --> 00:11:47,470 Some questions came up about your credit rating. 293 00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:48,610 Yeah, we want to find out 294 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:50,180 if you're eligible for the Gold Card. 295 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:51,020 Yo, come on, man. 296 00:11:51,020 --> 00:11:51,980 My boss finds out about this 297 00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:52,820 I'm going to lose my job. 298 00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:54,540 Oh, you got bigger troubles than that, kid. 299 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,292 The American Express card you gave Shantay 300 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:58,080 belonged to a woman who was murdered. 301 00:11:58,122 --> 00:11:59,082 Mm-hmm. For real? 302 00:11:59,124 --> 00:12:00,208 Where'd you get it? 303 00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:02,262 Hey, look, man, I don't know nothing about no murder. 304 00:12:02,304 --> 00:12:03,305 Okay. Here's the deal, Trey. 305 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:05,360 If I have to put your ass in the back of this car 306 00:12:05,481 --> 00:12:06,321 and drive down to the precinct 307 00:12:06,321 --> 00:12:07,281 you're going upstate 308 00:12:07,323 --> 00:12:09,325 so, you tell us who gave you the card 309 00:12:09,366 --> 00:12:10,826 and you just had a bad day 310 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:12,793 and you're home by supper. 311 00:12:13,260 --> 00:12:15,700 All right, I'll tell you where I got it. 312 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:17,151 I bought it. From who? 313 00:12:17,193 --> 00:12:18,277 Street dude. 314 00:12:18,820 --> 00:12:20,460 "Street dude." What's his name? 315 00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:21,300 Raffi something 316 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:22,620 or something Raffi, man. I don't know. 317 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:24,020 He's a homeless dude. 318 00:12:24,061 --> 00:12:25,396 Lives in the shelter on 127th. 319 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:27,480 Comes around here every now and then 320 00:12:27,521 --> 00:12:28,481 sells stuff. 321 00:12:28,481 --> 00:12:29,420 That's all, man. 322 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:30,880 You better hope he's sleeping in today. 323 00:12:30,922 --> 00:12:32,340 Ah, he's under me. 324 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:35,560 I'm the chief administrator here. 325 00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:37,580 We're looking for a certain guest 326 00:12:37,580 --> 00:12:39,749 of this establishment, a Raffi something? 327 00:12:39,749 --> 00:12:40,791 Raffi Lorraine? 328 00:12:41,180 --> 00:12:43,099 How many Raffi's you got? 329 00:12:46,780 --> 00:12:48,020 Ten beds back on the left. 330 00:12:48,062 --> 00:12:49,271 Thanks. 331 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:56,070 Raffi Lorraine? 332 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,300 Come on, man. It ain't time yet. 333 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,820 Early checkout today. Come on. 334 00:13:01,862 --> 00:13:02,822 What did I do? 335 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:05,167 This your stuff? Yeah. 336 00:13:05,208 --> 00:13:06,140 You want to take it with you? 337 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:07,099 Where am I going? 338 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:08,140 For a ride with us. 339 00:13:08,140 --> 00:13:09,099 You want to take it with you or not? 340 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,220 If I don't, it wont be here when I get back. 341 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:12,260 Do you mind if I take a look? 342 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:13,100 Go ahead. 343 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:14,040 There's no weapons or anything 344 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:16,542 that might hurt me? 345 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:17,543 No. 346 00:13:17,585 --> 00:13:19,503 This yours? 347 00:13:19,545 --> 00:13:20,505 Yes, sir. 348 00:13:22,380 --> 00:13:23,980 Buttons from the wrong side, chief. 349 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:25,760 I'm not picky about such matters. 350 00:13:26,020 --> 00:13:26,980 Where'd you find it? 351 00:13:27,021 --> 00:13:27,980 Garbage can. 352 00:13:27,980 --> 00:13:28,920 Why would somebody throw away 353 00:13:29,020 --> 00:13:30,740 a beautiful coat like this, huh? 354 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:31,580 People with money get tired 355 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:32,540 of their clothes sometimes. 356 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:36,180 They get tired of their gold crosses, too? 357 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:40,940 Token clerk tells us you're a regular, Raffi. 358 00:13:40,940 --> 00:13:43,080 Yeah. And you're a real pain in the ass 359 00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:44,060 to all the passengers. 360 00:13:44,420 --> 00:13:45,620 I don't bother nobody. 361 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:48,670 The woman that cross belonged to was beaten to death. 362 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:49,550 Do you understand? 363 00:13:49,550 --> 00:13:50,390 I didn't do that. 364 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:52,754 Hey, we got you on the subway platform 365 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:55,870 and we got you with the victim's possessions. 366 00:13:55,870 --> 00:13:56,950 Now, you have something to say 367 00:13:56,950 --> 00:13:59,350 because the train's about to leave the station? 368 00:13:59,350 --> 00:14:00,350 I saw who killed her. 369 00:14:00,392 --> 00:14:02,144 You sure it wasn't you? 370 00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:03,030 He was a black guy. 371 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:05,290 Maybe 30, 40. 372 00:14:05,331 --> 00:14:07,790 One of them buggy guys, goes off on you. 373 00:14:07,790 --> 00:14:10,585 Yeah? What did you see this buggy guy do? 374 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:13,110 He was walking around talking to himself. 375 00:14:14,590 --> 00:14:16,390 Walking one end of the platform to the other. 376 00:14:16,950 --> 00:14:18,830 The train comes in, people get on 377 00:14:18,852 --> 00:14:19,692 except for that guy. 378 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:21,152 And you. 379 00:14:21,550 --> 00:14:22,810 I'm working that platform. 380 00:14:23,470 --> 00:14:24,990 I've got garbage to go through. 381 00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:27,117 Okay. What did you see? 382 00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:29,230 This gal comes through the turnstile. 383 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:30,990 Stood near where the guy was. 384 00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:34,994 And all of a sudden, he hits her with a rock! 385 00:14:36,670 --> 00:14:38,150 She walks a little ways away from him 386 00:14:38,630 --> 00:14:41,430 she grabs her head, drops down to a bench 387 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:43,990 and he walks over 388 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:46,690 and he grabs her eyeglasses off of her 389 00:14:47,230 --> 00:14:48,590 and then he walks right out of the station. 390 00:14:49,750 --> 00:14:52,350 And you robbed whatever you could off the body? 391 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:53,390 That is what I did. 392 00:14:54,070 --> 00:14:55,530 I'm not proud of myself for doing it 393 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:56,790 but that is all that I did! 394 00:15:00,350 --> 00:15:01,650 He knew about the paving stone. 395 00:15:01,870 --> 00:15:04,150 Which doesn't guarantee him not being the one who used it. 396 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:06,830 His rap sheet's petty thefts and drugs. 397 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:08,810 I think he's telling the truth. 398 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:12,750 Okay. Well, why don't you run down this buggy black guy story? 399 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:14,793 There was an E.D.P. in the vicinity. 400 00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:15,930 Maybe there was a complaint. 401 00:15:18,891 --> 00:15:19,851 Officer Carlson? 402 00:15:19,893 --> 00:15:20,853 Yeah. 403 00:15:20,895 --> 00:15:22,730 Detectives Green, Briscoe. 404 00:15:24,830 --> 00:15:26,830 Sarge told me you'd be coming around. What's up? 405 00:15:26,830 --> 00:15:27,870 Uh, a few days ago 406 00:15:27,870 --> 00:15:30,170 you responded to an E.D.P. in the subway. 407 00:15:31,270 --> 00:15:33,355 Yeah. Guy took a leak on the platform. 408 00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:35,378 Female passenger took exception. 409 00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:36,270 No collar? 410 00:15:36,270 --> 00:15:37,670 It would have just been a summons. 411 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:38,590 Why? What happened? 412 00:15:38,590 --> 00:15:40,467 Uh, you think you could I.D. him? 413 00:15:40,467 --> 00:15:41,427 What did he do? 414 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:43,030 We're looking at him for a homicide. 415 00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:45,270 I don't believe it. 416 00:15:45,510 --> 00:15:46,637 Did you get a name? 417 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,700 He wouldn't give us a name. 418 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,300 We tried to take him to a shelter, but he refused. 419 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Manager of an SRO 420 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,620 on Eighth Avenue owes me a favor. 421 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Took him over there. 422 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,715 Somebody's in there. 423 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,680 New York City Police Department. 424 00:16:12,721 --> 00:16:14,140 Open up. 425 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,262 Got a key? 426 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:21,920 It's okay. It's okay. 427 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Take it easy. 428 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,880 All right. Come on. 429 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,920 We're going to get you up now. 430 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,140 Need to take you out of here. 431 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,039 Where you taking me? 432 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,880 To the Police Department. 433 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,080 We need to talk to you. 434 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,480 I need to finish what I'm doing. 435 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,307 Oh, you'll have plenty of time. 436 00:16:33,349 --> 00:16:34,433 Don't worry. 437 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,560 Where is he? 438 00:16:38,601 --> 00:16:39,561 Interrogation Room. 439 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,340 He's refusing to be fingerprinted. 440 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,660 I figure, we didn't want to force the issue 441 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,005 and have him lawyer up. 442 00:16:45,088 --> 00:16:46,089 Okay, thanks. 443 00:16:46,089 --> 00:16:47,173 You're welcome. 444 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Sir, my name is Abby Carmichael. 445 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,240 I'm an Assistant District Attorney. 446 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,100 I understand there's some problem 447 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,660 with you letting us fingerprint you. 448 00:16:57,911 --> 00:16:58,995 Sir? 449 00:17:01,581 --> 00:17:03,375 Oh, oh, hold it! Whoa! 450 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,280 He does that every so often. 451 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,580 I need to go outside. 452 00:17:13,622 --> 00:17:14,623 Okay. Sure. 453 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,600 But before you do, I want to talk to you 454 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,440 for a little while. 455 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,150 Is that all right? 456 00:17:20,192 --> 00:17:22,361 The air in here is bad. 457 00:17:22,444 --> 00:17:23,404 I need to go outside. 458 00:17:23,445 --> 00:17:26,490 Can you tell me where you got your glasses? 459 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,620 I needed them. 460 00:17:28,662 --> 00:17:31,999 I couldn't see who was talking to me. 461 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,826 Did you take them from the woman on the subway? 462 00:17:34,868 --> 00:17:36,240 I couldn't see who was talking to me 463 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,909 so that's why I took 'em. 464 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,013 Now, I need to go outside. 465 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,640 Before I can let you 466 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,803 go outside, I need to know 467 00:17:42,803 --> 00:17:43,643 who you are. 468 00:17:43,643 --> 00:17:48,315 I'm... Regis Philbin. 469 00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:53,188 Is that your final answer? 470 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:56,930 Okay, how about this? 471 00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:58,130 You let us fingerprint you 472 00:17:58,610 --> 00:17:59,570 and when the prints come back 473 00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:01,290 they'll confirm you're Regis Philbin 474 00:18:01,930 --> 00:18:02,970 and then everyone will know. 475 00:18:03,012 --> 00:18:05,264 How does that sound? 476 00:18:13,189 --> 00:18:14,149 Brian Gallant. 477 00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:17,030 Three misdemeanor convictions 478 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:18,750 all involving some violence. 479 00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:21,270 He got out of Rikers a week ago. 480 00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:23,370 Tell me he didn't get bail. 481 00:18:24,370 --> 00:18:25,810 The court remanded him at his arraignment 482 00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:26,850 for a 7-30 exam. 483 00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:29,214 Is he competent? 484 00:18:30,290 --> 00:18:31,670 Assuming Regis Philbin 485 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:33,830 and all the other nutsy stuff isn't an act 486 00:18:33,930 --> 00:18:34,770 I'd say borderline. 487 00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:36,690 This also may not be 488 00:18:36,770 --> 00:18:38,410 the first attack he's responsible for. 489 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:40,890 Do you remember the attack on that Konchalavsky 490 00:18:40,890 --> 00:18:42,141 woman last year? 491 00:18:42,224 --> 00:18:43,225 Don't tell me. 492 00:18:43,225 --> 00:18:43,850 Confessed. 493 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:44,612 Matches the composite. 494 00:18:45,890 --> 00:18:49,450 Okay. I don't want to rely on the civil commitment 495 00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:50,590 to keep him of the streets. 496 00:18:50,810 --> 00:18:52,090 Find out who's doing his evaluation. 497 00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:53,250 Make sure we talk to them 498 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,390 before they write their report. 499 00:18:54,432 --> 00:18:55,392 Got it. 500 00:18:55,410 --> 00:18:56,510 Then let's talk to his lawyer. 501 00:18:56,552 --> 00:18:57,595 Okay. 502 00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:04,210 You have no forensics linking him to the crime. 503 00:19:04,450 --> 00:19:06,330 He was in possession of the victim's eyeglasses. 504 00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:08,250 Somebody else had the victim's coat. 505 00:19:08,410 --> 00:19:10,130 Somebody else had the victim's credit card. 506 00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:11,550 We also have a witness. 507 00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:14,330 A homeless drug addict with a criminal record 508 00:19:14,490 --> 00:19:15,330 from here to Bayonne. 509 00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:16,890 Mr. Gallant made admissions 510 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:18,030 to two separate attacks. 511 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:21,617 Counselors, we all know he wasn't competent 512 00:19:21,658 --> 00:19:22,910 to waive counsel. 513 00:19:23,010 --> 00:19:24,570 The psychiatrist thinks he is competent. 514 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:26,430 Sure. They shovel medication into him-- 515 00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:27,390 he's competent. 516 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:29,190 He killed the mother of two children. 517 00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:31,243 Doesn't that enter into this for you? 518 00:19:31,285 --> 00:19:34,622 What are you looking for? 519 00:19:35,410 --> 00:19:36,510 Manslaughter, first degree. 520 00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:39,230 Because that's what you think he's guilty of 521 00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:40,970 or it looks good on your resume? 522 00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:42,130 You're kidding, right? 523 00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:43,740 Tell me he's not insane, Jack. 524 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:44,580 I'll tell you 525 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:46,220 you're not getting him off based on that. 526 00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:48,680 He stole property and ran. 527 00:19:49,380 --> 00:19:50,740 And flight's the one indicator 528 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:52,311 jury's love to rely on 529 00:19:52,340 --> 00:19:53,980 when they reject an insanity defense. 530 00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:55,840 So it doesn't matter whether or not he's insane. 531 00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:56,940 What matters most is 532 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:58,080 he doesn't get to do this again. 533 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:00,060 Look at him, guys. 534 00:20:00,082 --> 00:20:02,084 That's the master criminal 535 00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:06,000 you're looking to unleash your prosecutorial zeal on. 536 00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:08,000 There's a ten-year-old and an eight-year-old 537 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:08,940 who just found out 538 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:10,140 they don't have a mother anymore. 539 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:11,740 Maybe you'd like to come 540 00:20:11,740 --> 00:20:12,580 take a look at them. 541 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,084 Anything less than Man One possible? 542 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:18,460 Man One's it. 543 00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:32,280 Your Honor, I'm handing up the psychiatric report 544 00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:35,060 confirming this defendant's competency to enter 545 00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:36,060 a plea of guilty 546 00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:38,200 to manslaughter in the first degree 547 00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:39,980 in the death of Stephanie Donnatelli 548 00:20:39,980 --> 00:20:42,140 and assault of the first degree arising out of an attack 549 00:20:42,260 --> 00:20:43,970 on Nadine Konchalavsky. 550 00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:44,971 You're satisfied 551 00:20:46,060 --> 00:20:47,854 with this report, Mr. Jordan? 552 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,359 Yes, I am, Your Honor. 553 00:20:49,401 --> 00:20:50,444 Very well. 554 00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:53,248 Mr. Gallant, you understand that by pleading guilty 555 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:59,313 you'll be sentenced to a period of ten to 20 years. 556 00:20:59,313 --> 00:21:00,273 Yes. 557 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:05,838 Did you kill Stephanie Donnatelli? 558 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:08,800 I need you to answer for the stenographer. 559 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,060 Yes. 560 00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:13,104 Did you attack Nadine Konchalavsky? 561 00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:14,147 Yes. 562 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:18,491 Can you tell us why you committed these crimes? 563 00:21:18,533 --> 00:21:22,329 No reason. 564 00:21:25,290 --> 00:21:26,374 Uh, Mr. McCoy 565 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,060 I assume a motion to vacate 566 00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:30,000 the charges against the individual 567 00:21:30,042 --> 00:21:31,544 currently incarcerated 568 00:21:32,380 --> 00:21:34,540 for the attack on Miss Konchalavsky 569 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:35,380 has been filed. 570 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,540 It has, Your Honor. 571 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:37,860 He'll be released as soon as I let 572 00:21:37,980 --> 00:21:39,100 corrections know we're done. 573 00:21:39,183 --> 00:21:40,226 We're done. 574 00:21:40,268 --> 00:21:41,769 We're done?! 575 00:21:41,811 --> 00:21:45,189 Please, Mr. Donnatelli. 576 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:50,374 You guys declare yourselves done and you're done? 577 00:21:50,416 --> 00:21:52,630 You say the one and only person responsible 578 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:55,230 for Steph getting killed is this lunatic? 579 00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:56,750 You put a line through it on your list 580 00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:58,910 and then you pat yourselves on the back! 581 00:21:59,550 --> 00:22:01,510 Mr. Donnatelli, I understand you're upset 582 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:02,670 but this isn't the time 583 00:22:03,150 --> 00:22:05,010 or the place to address these things. 584 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:07,810 Tell me what is the time and place, and I'll be there! 585 00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:10,630 Tell me when you're going to hold someone accountable 586 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:12,750 for turning him loose on Steph... 587 00:22:15,790 --> 00:22:16,630 and I'll be there. 588 00:22:25,150 --> 00:22:26,234 He did a year? 589 00:22:26,276 --> 00:22:28,230 Misdemeanor assault. 590 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:29,070 He was released 591 00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:32,070 the night before he killed Stephanie Donnatelli. 592 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:32,910 He was dropped off 593 00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:34,830 at the Queensboro Plaza subway station 594 00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:37,550 at midnight with a token and a dollar and a half. 595 00:22:38,270 --> 00:22:39,110 Who made that call? 596 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:40,770 Standard operating procedure. 597 00:22:41,150 --> 00:22:42,330 We know from his medical chart 598 00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:44,350 that he made 11 visits to the jail's clinic 599 00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:48,090 which... means it's a safe bet someone knew something 600 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:49,270 about his mental condition. 601 00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:52,630 Yeah. What did they know, and when did they know it? 602 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:54,750 Still... it's a long way 603 00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:55,870 from civil negligence 604 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:57,350 to criminal liability. 605 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:59,311 Yes, it is. 606 00:22:59,590 --> 00:23:00,670 Well, before we go 607 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:01,990 after the Department of Corrections 608 00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:03,490 or Psychiatric Services 609 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:05,650 or whoever it is who's responsible for this 610 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:07,390 I'd like to know we have a chance at winning. 611 00:23:07,630 --> 00:23:09,510 We have some work to do before you make that call. 612 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:15,430 These are the inmates treated at Rikers clinic 613 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:17,070 in the first six months of last year. 614 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:19,590 These are the inmates treated in the last six months. 615 00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:21,258 Quite a disparity. 616 00:23:21,550 --> 00:23:22,690 That's because they stopped 617 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:24,470 referring prisoners to hospitals. 618 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:25,554 Why? 619 00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:27,110 Six months ago 620 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:29,290 the City privatized medical treatment at Rikers. 621 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:31,150 An HMO for inmates. 622 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:34,990 They gave a managed-care contract 623 00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:37,930 to a company called SMJ Medical Services. 624 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,880 SMJ gets a monthly bonus 625 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,060 when it holds down costs. 626 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:42,960 Which it does 627 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,580 by not sending inmates to hospitals. 628 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480 Which is why Brian Gallant was never referred. 629 00:23:49,858 --> 00:23:51,526 Leon Greg-- 630 00:23:51,568 --> 00:23:52,694 thirty-four. 631 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,120 He was awaiting trial for robbery 632 00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,237 and his weight dropped 30 pounds 633 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,340 in less than two months. 634 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Your medical treatment consisted 635 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,120 of giving him an aspirin. 636 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,240 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 637 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560 This is the Chief Executive Officer of the company. 638 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,000 Our understanding is not that you're here 639 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680 to conduct an open-ended inquiry into inmate diagnosis. 640 00:24:11,764 --> 00:24:12,724 In the past six months 641 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,900 four inmates have died at the Rikers clinic 642 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:18,240 three without ever seeing the inside of a hospital. 643 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Those six months correspond 644 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,160 to the period SMJ was hired to oversee 645 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,680 the jail's medical services. 646 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,880 That's not fair. 647 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,020 Are the terms of your client's contract such 648 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,200 that he receives a bonus 649 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,070 for denying a prisoner access to a hospital? 650 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:33,000 Absolutely not. 651 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,840 He receives 652 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,380 a certain amount of incentive pay 653 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,120 for successfully meeting targets 654 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,760 an arrangement recently upheld 655 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,720 by The United States Supreme Court, by the way. 656 00:24:40,762 --> 00:24:41,602 Is it your reading 657 00:24:41,602 --> 00:24:42,562 of Pegram v. Herdrich 658 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,360 that people like Brian Gallant can get released 659 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,760 without warning the authorities 660 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,250 without follow-up care? 661 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,029 Mr. Gallant had served his time. 662 00:24:50,112 --> 00:24:51,280 My client had no choice. 663 00:24:51,322 --> 00:24:52,323 Unless he was aware 664 00:24:52,364 --> 00:24:54,366 of the danger Gallant posed. 665 00:24:54,450 --> 00:24:55,400 I reviewed 666 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,400 the procedures followed in Mr. Gallant's case. 667 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,100 I believe they were, in all respects... 668 00:25:00,184 --> 00:25:01,769 correctly implemented. 669 00:25:03,771 --> 00:25:05,272 Doctor's prescription? 670 00:25:05,356 --> 00:25:07,358 Jessie Dobbs? 671 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,961 Is there someplace we can talk? 672 00:25:11,002 --> 00:25:12,462 What about? 673 00:25:12,462 --> 00:25:14,040 Brian Gallant. 674 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,040 I've got nothing to say. 675 00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:16,708 You were his Case Manager. 676 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,860 You were transferred here the day after he was arrested. 677 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,200 That's a grand jury subpoena, Ms. Dobbs. 678 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,000 Now we can either do this here or there. 679 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,533 What do you want? 680 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,030 I want to know who made the decision 681 00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:39,590 for Brian Gallant to be released. 682 00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:42,683 Miss, I am little person working for a big company. 683 00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:43,970 It's a simple question. 684 00:25:44,530 --> 00:25:45,930 You were at Rikers at the time. 685 00:25:46,210 --> 00:25:48,212 And I'm not at Rikers anymore, am I? 686 00:25:48,970 --> 00:25:49,810 Were you sent here 687 00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:51,130 to keep you away from an investigation? 688 00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:57,890 You'd have to ask them that. 689 00:25:58,170 --> 00:26:00,710 If it was your decision to release him without meds 690 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,170 I can understand how they might want 691 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:03,050 to make sure you didn't make 692 00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:03,890 the same mistake twice. 693 00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:05,010 It wasn't my decision. 694 00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:07,455 Then, whose decision was it? 695 00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:14,130 According to Jessie Dobbs, you were the doctor responsible 696 00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:16,070 for the treatment of inmates at Rikers. 697 00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:17,470 I oversaw the clinic. 698 00:26:18,330 --> 00:26:22,668 So for over a year, Brian Gallant was your patient? 699 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:25,570 I had limited contact with him 700 00:26:25,690 --> 00:26:27,901 but, technically, I guess I was his doctor. 701 00:26:27,901 --> 00:26:28,861 "Technically"? 702 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:30,630 I'm only at Rikers twice a week. 703 00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:33,370 Most of his visits were handled by his Case Manager. 704 00:26:34,450 --> 00:26:35,290 Are you suggesting 705 00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:37,150 a Physician's Assistant's qualified 706 00:26:37,410 --> 00:26:39,130 to diagnose his mental condition? 707 00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:42,050 I-I-I didn't hear the word "qualified" in what he said. 708 00:26:42,050 --> 00:26:43,010 He's describing 709 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:44,910 his contact with the patient. 710 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:46,590 It's his lack of contact 711 00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:47,910 that concerns us. 712 00:26:47,951 --> 00:26:49,077 11 visits 713 00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:51,690 over a year's time, doctor? 714 00:26:51,890 --> 00:26:52,910 On three occasions 715 00:26:53,490 --> 00:26:56,330 Ms. Dobbs's notes indicate Gallant was complaining 716 00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:58,190 of hearing voices, having hallucinations? 717 00:26:59,450 --> 00:27:00,710 I-I gave him his medication. 718 00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,410 But you never had him evaluated. 719 00:27:02,451 --> 00:27:03,411 Don't respond. 720 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:05,330 Your lawyer's right. 721 00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:07,450 Save your explanation for a jury. 722 00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:08,971 On what charge? 723 00:27:09,013 --> 00:27:09,970 Manslaughter 724 00:27:09,970 --> 00:27:11,730 if he was aware of the danger Gallant posed 725 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:13,110 and recklessly ignored it. 726 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:17,330 Do you know how many inmates I see on any given day? 727 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:18,170 How many? 728 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,690 Don't respond. They want to try 729 00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:21,070 to get an indictment, let them. 730 00:27:21,111 --> 00:27:22,196 What are you, nuts? 731 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:29,590 Look... I did the best I could. 732 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:32,730 I was paying off medical school loans... 733 00:27:32,813 --> 00:27:34,148 a mortgage. 734 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:35,240 I have two kids. 735 00:27:35,282 --> 00:27:37,951 Doesn't excuse what you did, Doctor. 736 00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:40,080 I wasn't allowed to have him evaluated. 737 00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:42,843 You were told that? 738 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:45,860 Andrews fired a doctor for making too many referrals. 739 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:48,300 Same day, he calls me in. 740 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,420 He asks me if I heard about the firing 741 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,760 and if I was familiar with SMJ's policy 742 00:27:52,802 --> 00:27:54,262 limiting referrals. 743 00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:57,600 He told me, he hoped I didn't make the same mistake. 744 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:02,100 This is a very courageous man 745 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:03,280 you have sitting here. 746 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:05,600 I assume we'll be able to work something out. 747 00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:06,820 If he testifies 748 00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:08,860 his job was threatened, there won't be any charges. 749 00:28:09,740 --> 00:28:10,700 I will ask him 750 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:12,960 to surrender his medical license for a year. 751 00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:15,340 That's not right. That's not right. 752 00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,140 He took an oath, and it wasn't to an HMO. 753 00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:19,860 He was doing the best he could 754 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:20,840 under the circumstances. 755 00:28:20,882 --> 00:28:24,677 S-Stop. 756 00:28:24,719 --> 00:28:27,597 Brian Gallant was kept sedated. 757 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:30,800 without ever being referred out 758 00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,200 for treatment or evaluation. 759 00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:34,540 Was SMJ aware of the danger he posed 760 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:35,577 to the public? 761 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:36,780 Dr. Sanders will testify 762 00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:39,120 that Phillip Andrews fired another doctor at Rikers 763 00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:41,060 for excessive hospital referrals 764 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,060 and, then, threatened to fire him 765 00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:44,060 if he did the same thing. 766 00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:46,675 Which, of course, Phillip Andrews will deny doing. 767 00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:49,960 If it comes down to credibility, I think we're in good shape. 768 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:53,272 No, it comes down to more than that. 769 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:55,300 If we go in there 770 00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:58,120 and start taking potshots at HMOs, first of all 771 00:28:58,180 --> 00:29:00,820 we're flying in the face of Pegram v. Herdrich 772 00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:04,300 and, then, secondly, what if we prevail? 773 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,280 I mean, what does that do to a healthcare system 774 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,420 that depends on HMOs to provide their treatment? 775 00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:10,260 You're not suggesting 776 00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:11,970 we give them a free pass because of that? 777 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,739 No, I'm suggesting we look 778 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:16,580 at the fallout that's likely to ensue 779 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:19,020 and be sure and differentiate 780 00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:21,720 the conduct of this HMO from the conduct 781 00:29:21,940 --> 00:29:23,300 of HMOs in general. 782 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:26,440 That said, I'd like nothing better 783 00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:28,440 than to hang their heads on our wall. 784 00:29:31,568 --> 00:29:32,528 Phillip Andrews? 785 00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:33,530 Yes? 786 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:35,850 You're under arrest for manslaughter 787 00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:37,775 in the death of Stephanie Donnatelli. 788 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:39,410 "Manslaughter"? What is this, a prank? 789 00:29:39,451 --> 00:29:40,411 No prank. 790 00:29:40,550 --> 00:29:42,885 Then, there's been a big fat mistake. 791 00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:44,890 Get your commanding officer on the phone. 792 00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:47,110 I want to hear from him that I should be arrested. 793 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:48,350 On your feet, pal. 794 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:49,550 Your coverage doesn't provide 795 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:50,630 for a second opinion. 796 00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:56,111 Gallant was a patient 797 00:29:56,111 --> 00:29:57,655 at the clinic at Rikers Island? 798 00:29:57,696 --> 00:29:58,656 Yes. 799 00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:01,116 For what complaint? 800 00:30:01,470 --> 00:30:02,470 He originally presented 801 00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:05,470 with periodic auditory-command hallucinations 802 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:07,430 uh, some delusional behavior. 803 00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:08,590 What was done for him? 804 00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:11,670 He was given varying doses of Halcyon, Ativan and Valium. 805 00:30:11,910 --> 00:30:14,830 Was he ever referred to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation? 806 00:30:14,871 --> 00:30:15,831 No. 807 00:30:15,873 --> 00:30:16,874 Why not? 808 00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:20,190 Mr. Gallant didn't meet the criteria established 809 00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:22,130 by my employer for a psychiatric referral. 810 00:30:23,390 --> 00:30:24,870 Which criteria were those? 811 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:26,080 Mr. Gallant was 812 00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:27,690 controllable with medication. 813 00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:30,630 If I made the referral, I'd have been fired. 814 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:32,970 Objection. Introduces facts not in evidence. 815 00:30:33,012 --> 00:30:34,597 Overruled. 816 00:30:34,990 --> 00:30:36,590 Why do you say you would've been fired? 817 00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:38,550 Objection. Calls for speculation. Overruled. 818 00:30:38,592 --> 00:30:40,260 You're annoying me, Mr. Axtell. 819 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:42,750 Another physician at the clinic 820 00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:45,090 had referred an inmate under a similar situation 821 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:46,270 and was terminated. 822 00:30:47,150 --> 00:30:48,390 Phillip Andrews warned me 823 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:49,470 not to make the same mistake. 824 00:30:50,350 --> 00:30:51,830 What was your last contact 825 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:54,609 with Mr. Gallant prior to his release? 826 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:57,474 That would've been on September 8. 827 00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:01,685 What, if anything, transpired on that occasion? 828 00:31:01,910 --> 00:31:02,890 I... I gave him his medication. 829 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:07,730 September 8 was four days before Mr. Gallant's release. 830 00:31:07,771 --> 00:31:08,731 Yes. 831 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:09,990 Was he examined 832 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:11,158 on the day of his release? 833 00:31:11,199 --> 00:31:12,270 No. 834 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:13,430 Was he given any medication 835 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,586 for him to take subsequent to his release? 836 00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:17,670 No. 837 00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:19,441 Why was that? 838 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:22,070 He wasn't SMJ's problem anymore. 839 00:31:22,111 --> 00:31:23,112 Objection. 840 00:31:23,154 --> 00:31:24,697 That's sustained. 841 00:31:26,699 --> 00:31:27,992 Nothing further. 842 00:31:28,034 --> 00:31:28,994 Dr. Sanders 843 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:32,000 to the best of your knowledge, Phillip Andrews 844 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,658 is not himself a doctor, isn't that right? 845 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,260 I don't believe he is, no. 846 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,262 So, you understood, did you not 847 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,140 that he relied on the determinations 848 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,360 of doctors, such as yourself 849 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,801 to assess treatment? 850 00:31:43,843 --> 00:31:44,886 Yes. 851 00:31:44,927 --> 00:31:49,432 Did you ever tell him you believed Brian Gallant 852 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,040 to be psychotic? 853 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,414 No, I didn't. 854 00:31:53,456 --> 00:31:55,833 No. 855 00:31:55,875 --> 00:31:57,418 Did you ever tell him 856 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,240 Brian Gallant constituted a threat to himself or others? 857 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,080 No. 858 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,540 Oh. Was that information on his chart? 859 00:32:03,582 --> 00:32:04,760 No. 860 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,389 Was he supposed to sense it from crystals or magical beans? 861 00:32:08,431 --> 00:32:10,057 Objection. Sustained. 862 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200 Wasn't it your responsibility, Doctor, to tell him? 863 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600 He wanted me to take care of it 864 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,380 the cheapest way possible, period. 865 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,520 The State Board of Review has revoked your license 866 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,096 to practice medicine, isn't that so, Doctor? 867 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,016 Yes. 868 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,242 I'll bet you got somebody else to blame 869 00:32:30,242 --> 00:32:31,082 for that, too. 870 00:32:31,082 --> 00:32:33,000 Objection. 871 00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:34,210 Withdrawn. 872 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,020 I hear these voices inside my head. 873 00:32:45,062 --> 00:32:48,899 Sometimes, it's worse than other times. 874 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,160 How was it during the time 875 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,575 you were incarcerated on Rikers Island? 876 00:32:52,617 --> 00:32:53,577 Bad. 877 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,760 Did you bring that to the attention 878 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,419 of the prison doctor? 879 00:32:56,461 --> 00:32:57,421 Yes. 880 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,174 What did he do? 881 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,320 Gave me medicine. 882 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080 Were you ever examined by a psychiatrist? 883 00:33:04,122 --> 00:33:05,123 No. 884 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,480 Did you ever ask 885 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,460 to be examined by a psychiatrist? 886 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,980 I told them I was having trouble with voices. 887 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,480 I told them it was keeping me up nights-- 888 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,180 my bad uncle and my good uncle 889 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,000 saying about bringing the car down from Yonkers. 890 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560 I said, "I ain't bringing no car down from Yonkers." 891 00:33:27,643 --> 00:33:29,520 That's right. 892 00:33:31,330 --> 00:33:32,510 On the day you were released... 893 00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:36,594 were you given any medication? 894 00:33:38,304 --> 00:33:39,805 No. 895 00:33:41,432 --> 00:33:42,392 Thank you. 896 00:33:42,434 --> 00:33:43,727 Nothing further. 897 00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:52,690 What did you do with the token they gave you? 898 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:53,530 I used it. 899 00:33:53,530 --> 00:33:54,781 Used it to go into Manhattan? 900 00:33:55,730 --> 00:33:57,570 Where you hit a woman over the head 901 00:33:57,650 --> 00:34:00,111 with a paving stone and killed her? 902 00:34:00,153 --> 00:34:02,655 I'm sorry. 903 00:34:03,490 --> 00:34:04,750 I know you say you're sorry, but... 904 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:07,836 you did know what you were doing, didn't you? 905 00:34:07,878 --> 00:34:09,250 Objection. Irrelevant. 906 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:10,090 This man's state of mind 907 00:34:10,130 --> 00:34:11,990 is what my client is on trial for, Your Honor. 908 00:34:12,031 --> 00:34:13,116 No, Counselor. 909 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:14,990 Your client is on trial 910 00:34:15,130 --> 00:34:16,930 for what he allegedly did. 911 00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:19,070 I will allow you some leeway on cross. 912 00:34:20,410 --> 00:34:21,270 On the day you pled guilty 913 00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:23,170 to manslaughter, Mr. Gallant 914 00:34:23,170 --> 00:34:25,010 did you or did you not, in front of this same judge 915 00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:28,050 say that you were the person 916 00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:31,410 responsible for the death of Stephanie Donnatelli? 917 00:34:31,451 --> 00:34:33,412 Yes. 918 00:34:34,496 --> 00:34:36,373 I'm done. 919 00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:41,316 Redirect, Your Honor. 920 00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:44,210 Mr. Gallant, can you tell us why you committed 921 00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:45,587 this horrible crime? 922 00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:47,290 My bad uncle. 923 00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:49,030 Your bad uncle 924 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:51,584 told you to? 925 00:34:51,625 --> 00:34:52,751 Yes. 926 00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:57,100 Does he talk to you all the time? 927 00:34:57,142 --> 00:34:58,610 No. 928 00:34:58,610 --> 00:35:01,237 When doesn't he talk to you? 929 00:35:01,770 --> 00:35:02,870 When I take my medicine. 930 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:05,710 Then he stays in Yonkers. 931 00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:12,090 I have nothing further. 932 00:35:16,090 --> 00:35:18,250 Three weeks ago, we said Brian Gallant was responsible. 933 00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:20,590 Now we seem to be saying someone else is responsible. 934 00:35:21,010 --> 00:35:22,010 That's got to hurt us. 935 00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:25,790 He was found competent by a court-appointed psychiatrist. 936 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,140 If that psychiatrist hadn't found him competent 937 00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:28,980 I would have found 938 00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:29,820 another one who did. 939 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:30,740 It's called prosecuting. 940 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:33,820 In any event, this one could go either way. 941 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:35,060 You have a defendant 942 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,600 responsible for sending a dangerous psychotic 943 00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:39,440 out among the citizens of New York. 944 00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:42,340 Whatever excuses he has-- 945 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:44,500 whatever excuses the two of you have 946 00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:47,920 now that you've gone after him, I want you to run him to ground. 947 00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:57,287 SMJ's is a for-profit company. 948 00:35:57,420 --> 00:35:58,720 I'm not ashamed to admit that 949 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,040 but at no time did I ever allow finances 950 00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,200 to dictate the course of medical treatment. 951 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:06,800 To what do you attribute the decline 952 00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:08,420 in hospital referrals? 953 00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:09,280 I attribute it 954 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:11,300 to improved medical service at the jail. 955 00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:13,880 By focusing on efficiency 956 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,260 we've been able to cut the need for hospitalization. 957 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:18,700 What about in Brian Gallant's case? 958 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,160 I suspect Mr. Gallant's case 959 00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,280 would present a challenge to any clinician. 960 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,420 Given that the severity of it was never communicated 961 00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:28,640 to me, I was in no position to effectively 962 00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,660 monitor his treatment regime. 963 00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:31,500 Had it been... 964 00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:34,720 maybe there would have been a different outcome. 965 00:36:34,762 --> 00:36:36,805 Thank you. 966 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,960 Inmates diagnosed with heartburn 967 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:44,940 who turn out to have coronaries. 968 00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,680 HIV patients left untreated. 969 00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:51,420 Psych patients left unevaluated. 970 00:36:51,462 --> 00:36:55,300 Is that your idea of improved medical service 971 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:56,140 Mr. Andrews? 972 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:58,820 I'm not satisfied with our diagnostic success rate. 973 00:36:59,020 --> 00:36:59,960 And I think you're going to see 974 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:01,580 a steady improvement on that score. 975 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,520 What you have to keep in mind 976 00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:05,580 is, we're still in the shake-out cruise 977 00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:06,420 of a new program. 978 00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:08,400 You're responsible for the bottom line 979 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:10,660 on the shake-out cruise are you not, Mr. Andrews? 980 00:37:10,660 --> 00:37:11,500 Yes, I am. 981 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,540 And there's no question 982 00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,180 but that the bottom line is helped 983 00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:17,320 the fewer hospital referrals are made? 984 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,060 Like it or not, medical care is a business today. 985 00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:24,060 No HMO can survive without conducting a realistic 986 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:25,600 cost-benefit analysis 987 00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:27,350 of its treatment protocols. 988 00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:30,670 Brian Gallant was treated 11 times. 989 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:33,630 Three violent altercations. 990 00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:35,750 Another five visits 991 00:37:36,070 --> 00:37:37,350 for irrational behavior. 992 00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:38,930 Was your failure 993 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:42,950 to authorize even one psychiatric referral 994 00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:45,830 part of the cost-benefit analysis? 995 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:46,670 I was relying 996 00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:48,390 on the clinic physician's observations 997 00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:50,410 to determine a course of treatment. 998 00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:53,650 You had him on tranquilizers nonstop. 999 00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:55,270 I didn't have him on anything. 1000 00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:57,170 That was Sander's call. 1001 00:37:58,270 --> 00:37:59,950 And by the way, according to his chart 1002 00:38:00,550 --> 00:38:02,010 he was responding to the medication. 1003 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:04,059 So you were reviewing his medical chart? 1004 00:38:07,896 --> 00:38:09,939 Mr. Andrews? 1005 00:38:09,981 --> 00:38:11,733 Periodically, yes. 1006 00:38:12,670 --> 00:38:14,390 You were being kept aware 1007 00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:17,050 of his progress, or lack thereof 1008 00:38:17,091 --> 00:38:19,761 periodically? 1009 00:38:19,802 --> 00:38:20,710 Yes. 1010 00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:23,463 And you were authorizing his medication? 1011 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:25,870 I was authorizing the expenditure. 1012 00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:28,490 I'm not the prescribing physician. 1013 00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:34,870 Tell the jury 1014 00:38:35,470 --> 00:38:37,290 what Mr. Gallant's complaint was 1015 00:38:37,870 --> 00:38:40,610 the last three times he was seen at the clinic. 1016 00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:47,350 There's no complaint indicated. 1017 00:38:47,434 --> 00:38:48,852 No complaint? 1018 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:50,830 In a company 1019 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,550 as cost conscious as yours 1020 00:38:53,310 --> 00:38:54,270 isn't it a fact 1021 00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:55,690 that the only reason 1022 00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:57,650 you would be spending money on medication 1023 00:38:58,070 --> 00:38:59,250 where there was no complaint 1024 00:38:59,830 --> 00:39:01,790 would be to prevent what was otherwise inevitable? 1025 00:39:01,790 --> 00:39:02,630 No. 1026 00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:03,610 Because you knew 1027 00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:06,790 that it was inevitable that without medication 1028 00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:09,510 Brian Gallant would become violent. 1029 00:39:09,712 --> 00:39:10,552 That's not true. 1030 00:39:10,552 --> 00:39:11,512 When the time came 1031 00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:13,750 you were only too happy to see him go 1032 00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:18,030 because a hospital stay or a psychiatric evaluation 1033 00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:21,350 would have been contrary to your cost-benefit analysis. 1034 00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:23,670 Objection. Counsel's making speeches. 1035 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,800 Ask a question, Mr. McCoy. 1036 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,700 Isn't it a fact, that you knew exactly what kind of danger 1037 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,720 Brian Gallant posed upon being released? 1038 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:35,640 I didn't know. 1039 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,060 You didn't want to know. 1040 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,740 The big bad HMO. 1041 00:39:48,781 --> 00:39:51,326 Uncaring, unfeeling. 1042 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Placing profits before people 1043 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,000 in its savage quest to make money. 1044 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,560 A convenient political target 1045 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,980 if ever there was one. 1046 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,680 Criminally responsible for one man killing another man? 1047 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,700 Not on your life. 1048 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,020 If there were an outbreak 1049 00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:14,188 of tuberculosis 1050 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,840 or if prisoners were dying 1051 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,600 due to negligent medical care 1052 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,780 Phillip Andrews would have to answer for that. 1053 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,240 If he took a money-be-damned approach 1054 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,040 and dispensed medical care at Rikers Island 1055 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,240 as if it were the Mayo Clinic 1056 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,460 he would have to answer for that, too 1057 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,360 and I might add... 1058 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120 answer to you, the taxpayers, as well. 1059 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,680 So he does his job... 1060 00:40:37,763 --> 00:40:39,431 professionally 1061 00:40:39,431 --> 00:40:41,642 compassionately. 1062 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,780 And for doing his job 1063 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,500 they want to send him to jail. 1064 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,620 A few short weeks ago 1065 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,020 Brian Gallant pled guilty 1066 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,960 to Manslaughter in the First Degree-- 1067 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,100 a plea that could only be entered 1068 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,800 with the approval of this prosecutor. 1069 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,200 And now, this same prosecutor 1070 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560 is back here with bigger fish to fry. 1071 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,340 Don't let the political ambitions of a District Attorney 1072 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,580 pervert this court of law. 1073 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,510 Whatever political capital Mr. McCoy and his boss 1074 00:41:22,810 --> 00:41:23,930 can extract from it 1075 00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:28,490 don't let it be done to our system of justice. 1076 00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:31,090 Don't let it happen 1077 00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:34,310 to this innocent man. 1078 00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:43,290 No one should be heard to say 1079 00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:47,430 that providing medical care at Rikers Island is easy. 1080 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:50,050 Nor is it the position 1081 00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:53,330 of this District Attorney's office that there aren't 1082 00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:56,910 legitimate financial constraints on the provider. 1083 00:41:57,490 --> 00:41:58,870 We've heard that the defendant 1084 00:41:59,170 --> 00:42:00,610 operating under those constraints 1085 00:42:01,130 --> 00:42:03,950 is just a simple man doing the best he could. 1086 00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:05,810 Let's look at that a little bit. 1087 00:42:08,410 --> 00:42:11,430 Brian Gallant was at Rikers for a year. 1088 00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:14,350 He was medicated on a daily basis 1089 00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:16,090 by the defendant's company 1090 00:42:16,570 --> 00:42:18,070 with the defendant's knowledge. 1091 00:42:18,490 --> 00:42:19,730 On the day he was released 1092 00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:21,510 he was hallucinating 1093 00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:22,761 and disoriented. 1094 00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:27,090 Nonetheless, he was handed over to the Department of Corrections 1095 00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:28,290 who dropped him off 1096 00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:29,970 at a subway station in the middle of the night. 1097 00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:32,150 He was given no medication 1098 00:42:32,610 --> 00:42:34,950 no referral for ongoing care. 1099 00:42:34,991 --> 00:42:37,160 Not an address to go to. 1100 00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:39,370 Not a phone number to call. 1101 00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:43,690 This was not done by accident or oversight. 1102 00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:48,570 This was the express instruction of the defendant. 1103 00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:53,250 Was not the violent behavior of Brian Gallant 1104 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:56,511 a foreseeable event? 1105 00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:59,510 Was not the defendant well aware 1106 00:43:00,170 --> 00:43:02,050 not only of Mr. Gallant's propensities 1107 00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:04,870 but of the risk he constituted 1108 00:43:05,370 --> 00:43:08,081 for every person he came in contact with? 1109 00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:11,110 The answer is, of course he was aware of it. 1110 00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:14,690 Of course, he chose to ignore it. 1111 00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:17,370 Of course, it was his recklessness 1112 00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:18,890 that brought about 1113 00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:19,730 this woman's death. 1114 00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:22,960 Find him guilty, ladies and gentlemen. 1115 00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:24,880 He deserves it. 1116 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:37,319 Madame Forelady, I understand the jury's reached a verdict? 1117 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,220 We have. 1118 00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:39,480 On the first count of the indictment 1119 00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:41,700 charging Manslaughter in the Second Degree 1120 00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:44,400 we find the defendant not guilty. 1121 00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:47,160 On the lesser included charge 1122 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:49,060 of Criminally Negligent Homicide 1123 00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:51,660 we find the defendant guilty. 1124 00:44:03,755 --> 00:44:04,965 Okay, bye-bye. 1125 00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:07,640 Dateline wants to interview me 1126 00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:08,540 about the verdict. 1127 00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:11,231 Jane Pauley or Stone Phillips? 1128 00:44:11,231 --> 00:44:12,191 Stone Phillips. 1129 00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:13,680 They'll probably try to get you to say 1130 00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:15,980 it opens the door to massive malpractice claims. 1131 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:17,927 Well, it's worth it if it changes the way 1132 00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:19,520 HMOs do business in this city. 1133 00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:21,520 How much time will Andrews serve 1134 00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:22,660 with good behavior? 1135 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:23,500 Under a year. 1136 00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:25,877 Good, that means jail, not state prison. 1137 00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:27,260 He'll serve it at Rikers. 1138 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,780 Let's hope he has a good immune system. 79578

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