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Steve Fulcher was found guilty
of two counts of gross misconduct
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and received two final written warnings.
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He chose not to appeal
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and made the decision to resign
from the force.
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I think we should all remember that.
He was not sacked.
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He chose to leave.
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There has been much speculation
by Fulcher
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and, consequently, the media,
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in relation to possible other
victims of Christopher Halliwell.
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We at Wiltshire Police
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made the ethical decision
to maintain a position
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of not rising to these sensational
and unsubstantiated claims
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because we believe
this would lead to a media frenzy.
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The murder of Becky Godden
has raised a number of issues,
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including the
Police And Criminal Evidence Act,
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which was introduced in 1984.
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I believe that,
if PACE is ethically followed
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and delivered in line
with the codes of practice,
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the right outcomes can be achieved
without evidence being inadmissible.
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OK, gentlemen,
I am now going to take you through
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the basic stages
of the intelligence cycle.
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Stage one will be planning and direction,
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in which we evaluate opportunities
and decide on strategy.
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Er, do you want to...?
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Thank you.
So, that's planning and direction.
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Next, collection...
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Is this the same one?
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Yeah.
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Christ... Do you ever get used to that?
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OK. Er, as I was saying,
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stage two is collection.
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- When?
- Yesterday.
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I've told you before,
don't believe everything you read.
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- It's perfectly safe. Don't worry.
- It was on BBC News.
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There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi
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only about half a mile
from your barracks.
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It's news to me.
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How have you been?
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I'm really enjoying it. I'm...
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...feeling pretty chilled, actually.
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And at least I'm wanted here.
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I know you couldn't care less,
but Debs Peach told me
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Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons
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and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable.
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I just thought you could do with a laugh.
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You know what? You're right.
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I really... couldn't care less any more.
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Well, that's all my news.
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We love you very much
and can't wait to see you.
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I've got to go because I'm meeting
the girls at the cinema tonight.
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OK.
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All right...
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Give them my love.
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I love you.
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Please, be careful.
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Mm-hm.
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- LINE RINGS
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- Hello?
- Debs...
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- What the fuck is going on?
- I wondered when you'd find out.
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They've finally given Mike Veale
the top job?
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And he's already been talking about you.
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Blaming you for the fact
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they still haven't charged Halliwell
over Becky Godden.
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They've had years
to come up with enough evidence.
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It's all wearing a bit thin, this,
isn't it, still blaming me?
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Yeah.
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What happened with that stuff
they dug up at the lake...
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- ...at Ramsbury?
- 60 items of clothing.
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You'd think they'd have assigned
a big team to it, wouldn't you?
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Oh, what...?
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They haven't done anything?
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Let's just say, apparently,
there hasn't been much progress.
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They've only just put a small team on it.
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And it's being headed up by Sean Memory,
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who's now a Detective
Superintendent, by the way.
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Do you know what, I think I'd rather
be here
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with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me
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than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross.
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How long are you out there for?
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I've got another six months.
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And don't mention anything
about bombs to Yvonne.
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Please.
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Karen?
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Come on, love, we'd better get going.
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Let's at least hear what he's got to say.
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I've written an open letter to Halliwell
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asking him to tell the truth
about what he did to Becky.
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I'm not expecting a response,
but I just...
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...have to try to keep her
in the public eye.
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Cos she doesn't matter
as much as Sian, you see?
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Because Sian was just a normal girl
who worked in an office.
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A good girl.
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But Becky was a bad girl.
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A bad little girl
who must have deserved it...
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- Karen - Well,
I know that's what everyone thinks!
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Listen to me.
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I am convinced that, because of you,
the Police and Crime Commissioner
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is pressuring Wiltshire Police
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into looking for new evidence
to bring Halliwell to trial.
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So, whatever it is you're doing,
it's working.
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- Oh, God...
- There, you see?
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Oh, thank you very much. Thank you.
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I won't give up.
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- Hi, Kev.
- Hi, Elaine.
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How are you?
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Are you OK, love?
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I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment.
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It's been hard.
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You get people in the pub
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who think they're trying to be nice,
rather than spiteful,
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but they say, "Don't you wish
you'd gone out with her that night?"
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I ask myself that all the time.
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You mustn't think about it
like that, Kev.
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She died because of Christopher
Halliwell, not anybody else.
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Certainly not you.
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Is that what you wanted to see me about?
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Because that's easy to deal with.
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No, it's not that.
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Well, what, then, love?
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I'm seeing somebody else.
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- Oh.
- I'm sorry.
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Listen to me, you must never apologise
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for getting on with your life.
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I feel so bloody guilty.
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No!
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Sian's not here.
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What are you supposed to do, pine
for her for the rest of your life?
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It's a comfort to me
that she knew what it was
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to share a life with someone,
that she was loved and cherished.
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But now she's gone and...
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...I'm glad for you
that you have someone else.
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I had to come here
and tell you about Emma
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before you found out from anyone else.
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Is that her name, Emma?
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Why don't you bring her to the wedding?
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Are you sure?
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Please. It's important to me.
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Bring her, Kev.
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I can meet her before, if you like.
Take the pressure off.
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Thank you.
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And this is everything you have?
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Well, we do have some other leads
we're following up,
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but basically, yes, it is.
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I thought there were some items
recovered from a pond
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with Sian's boots.
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Does any of that relate to Becky?
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We did find some stuff, yeah.
But a lot of it had rotted.
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And we've not been able to match
any of it yet to Becky's clothing
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or descriptions of clothing
of any missing persons, so...
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I'd say we've got enough here
to re-arrest and charge
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- and get it to court.
- Mm-hm.
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But maybe not enough
to convince a jury to convict.
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Right.
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It's all consistent with Halliwell
having murdered Rebecca Godden.
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And this prostitute who links
the two of them is helpful.
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But nothing actually says he did it.
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The elephant in the room is,
of course, the confession.
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Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so...
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Wrongly. In my opinion.
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But with a different judge,
a different set of circumstances,
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there may be a way we can
get it allowed this time round.
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- How?
- The key, ironically enough,
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is for Halliwell to come out
and say, "I didn't do it."
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Remember, he's never had to actually
state a defence for Rebecca Godden
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because the case was thrown out.
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He'll probably stay silent and
just challenge us to make our case,
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as is his right.
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But if he now tries to claim
he's never met her,
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or words to that effect,
that's the game-changer.
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His confession directly contradicts
this. So, it's unlikely, of course.
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Any lawyer worth his salt would
advise him to keep his mouth shut.
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But if he did, that gives us
the grounds to ask the judge
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to revisit the original ruling.
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If that happens, Steve Fulcher
would have to give evidence.
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And his relationship
with Wiltshire Police is not great,
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to say the least.
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It's by far the strongest evidence
we have.
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Mum, don't embarrass me, OK?
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I really like this one.
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- Hey!
- Hey...
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Mum...
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- This is Kev.
- Hiya.
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- Hi, Kev.
- Nice to meet you.
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And you.
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Do you want a cuppa?
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Please, yeah.
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Elaine... This is Emma.
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- Pleased to meet you, love.
- Thanks.
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Sorry it's in
such difficult circumstances.
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Well, that's not your fault, is it?
Come on, sit down.
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- Coffee?
- Yeah, please.
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Two coffees, please.
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So...
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How did you meet? Tell me everything.
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Erm, just round a friend's house.
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We got chatting and it sort of clicked.
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We went out a few times.
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I done her a chicken pasta
and that sealed the deal.
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Kev's a really good cook.
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You're not so bad.
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- She's brilliant, Elaine.
- He's just being kind, honestly.
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So, how's the wedding stuff going,
then, Elaine?
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Getting there. Actually,
I'm just going to go to the loo.
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Christopher John Halliwell,
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I'm arresting you
for the murder of Rebecca Godden,
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contrary to common law.
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You do not have to say anything,
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but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention,
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when questioned, something
which you later rely on in court.
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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
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Do you understand?
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Mm.
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OK, I'm going to take you now
to Worcester Police Station,
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where you will be interviewed
in the presence of a solicitor.
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I don't want a solicitor.
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Pardon?
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I don't want a solicitor.
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I want to see what you have to say first.
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Who's in charge of this case?
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That would be Detective
Superintendent Sean Memory.
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If...
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...I wrap this up in...
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...in the next few hours,
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any other charges against me...
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...various things in the past...
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You're talking about car thefts,
break-ins, bits and pieces?
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Some more... serious.
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Will clearing this up
be enough to stop everything else?
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If Mr Memory is listening,
the ball is in his court.
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Get a print set up. If we can get
a confession now, that's it...
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...no need for Fulcher.
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Now, what I'm saying there, Chris,
and I've signed it at the bottom...
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...is that I lead the investigation
into Becky Godden.
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I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
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And I'm not investigating you for
any other offence, apart from Becky.
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If I clear this up, I don't want you
coming back every two years saying,
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"What about this? What about that?"
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This interview is about one matter
and one matter only.
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But at this point in time...
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...I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
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OK.
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Erm...
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Actually, before I do anything else...
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...I think I'd better get
my solicitor to check it first.
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Is that OK?
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No, that's fine.
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He's got no intention
of clearing anything up.
248
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He's playing with us.
249
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He just wanted to know what we've got.
250
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Ladies and gentlemen...
251
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...my wife and I...
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Whoooo!
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...would like to thank you all
sincerely for coming.
254
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It really is...
255
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It's wonderful to have you all
with us on this special day.
256
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And I'd like to thank the children,
257
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my three and Elaine's,
258
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for being there for us...
259
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...through everything.
260
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And of course...
261
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...I must mention Sian.
262
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Now, we all remember those dark days
when she went missing.
263
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When there was nothing we could do
but sit and hope.
264
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Yeah, we'd get little bits
and pieces of information,
265
00:15:51,316 --> 00:15:54,316
but not the message
that we really wanted to hear.
266
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That she was safe and well...
267
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...and coming home.
268
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- What was all that about?
- I asked him, Jackie.
269
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I said, "Please, don't talk
about Sian too much."
270
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But he had it all planned out
in his head what he wanted to do.
271
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He's planned everything today.
He likes to be...
272
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...in control.
He likes to organise everything.
273
00:16:29,761 --> 00:16:33,479
- He likes to take over, more like.
- I care about him a lot. I do.
274
00:16:33,504 --> 00:16:35,504
He is a good person.
275
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I don't want to be on my own,
Jackie. I want to be married.
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I know.
277
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Halliwell has parted company
with the lawyers
278
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who represented him at the first trial.
279
00:16:54,568 --> 00:16:56,567
Really? Why would he do that?
280
00:16:56,568 --> 00:16:58,567
Well, it would seem he has decided
281
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he wants to represent himself in court.
282
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Bloody hell.
283
00:17:03,821 --> 00:17:04,981
Precisely.
284
00:17:05,568 --> 00:17:08,767
So, this morning, Halliwell finally
issued an outline of his defence,
285
00:17:08,768 --> 00:17:10,567
which he's composed himself.
286
00:17:10,568 --> 00:17:12,102
We've been asking for it for weeks.
287
00:17:12,103 --> 00:17:16,168
It says simply he has no knowledge
of the death of Rebecca Godden,
288
00:17:16,169 --> 00:17:20,088
nor any information
regarding details of how she died.
289
00:17:23,568 --> 00:17:25,568
I think we have our game-changer.
290
00:17:25,819 --> 00:17:27,897
The confession now comes into play.
291
00:17:27,898 --> 00:17:30,659
We can ask the new judge
to reconsider admitting it.
292
00:17:39,568 --> 00:17:42,567
An email came through this morning
from the CPS
293
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saying that Wiltshire Police
have discovered new evidence
294
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against Halliwell
for Becky Godden's murder
295
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and that he's been charged as a result.
296
00:17:49,433 --> 00:17:51,567
But in the next breath they say
297
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they want to try and reintroduce
the confession evidence.
298
00:17:54,083 --> 00:17:55,196
You're joking?
299
00:17:55,221 --> 00:17:56,567
Well, do you want an even bigger laugh?
300
00:17:56,568 --> 00:17:58,567
If they do manage
to get it ruled admissible,
301
00:17:58,568 --> 00:18:01,568
they want me to come back
and give evidence at the trial.
302
00:18:01,828 --> 00:18:04,828
After all they've done to you,
now they want you to help them out?
303
00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:08,388
The new evidence obviously
can't be that strong, can it?
304
00:18:09,074 --> 00:18:11,074
It's not ever going to end, is it?
305
00:18:11,099 --> 00:18:12,099
For fuck's sake...
306
00:18:13,568 --> 00:18:15,607
Oh, hello. Come in.
307
00:18:18,061 --> 00:18:19,183
- Hi, Karen.
- Hello.
308
00:18:19,208 --> 00:18:21,695
- Come in, sit down.
- No, no, I can't stay for long.
309
00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,233
I, erm...
310
00:18:23,568 --> 00:18:25,567
I just came to tell you
that we are hopeful
311
00:18:25,568 --> 00:18:27,567
of finally bringing charges
against Halliwell over Becky.
312
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He's been arrested.
313
00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:32,567
We're still working
to strengthen the case against him.
314
00:18:32,568 --> 00:18:34,906
But we think we can go to trial.
315
00:18:34,907 --> 00:18:38,308
- But how?
- We've been working hard on the case
316
00:18:38,333 --> 00:18:41,507
and we've dug up plenty of new evidence.
317
00:18:41,568 --> 00:18:44,567
- Can we know what it is?
- I can't say too much now,
318
00:18:44,568 --> 00:18:46,568
but the evidence is compelling.
319
00:18:46,899 --> 00:18:49,568
There's a little way to go yet,
but we're optimistic.
320
00:18:49,819 --> 00:18:52,379
Oh, that is so fantastic!
321
00:18:52,849 --> 00:18:54,767
We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we?
322
00:18:54,768 --> 00:18:58,567
I will, of course, be in touch
if there's any more news, OK?
323
00:18:58,568 --> 00:19:00,567
Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean.
324
00:19:00,568 --> 00:19:02,767
Well, it's important
we're all on the same page, right?
325
00:19:02,768 --> 00:19:05,179
- Well, thanks a million, Sean.
- Yeah, thanks.
326
00:19:11,407 --> 00:19:13,407
Oh, Charlie, I've...
327
00:19:13,568 --> 00:19:15,567
I've got a knot in my tummy.
328
00:19:15,568 --> 00:19:19,179
But why? We've just had the best
bloody news you could hope for.
329
00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:21,006
But what if it doesn't work again?
330
00:19:21,007 --> 00:19:23,407
What if another ruling
goes against us or something?
331
00:19:23,408 --> 00:19:25,567
Because, if we don't get him
this time, we never will.
332
00:19:25,568 --> 00:19:29,408
Always the gloomiest way
of looking at it, that's you!
333
00:19:30,568 --> 00:19:33,568
Yeah, well, I've had that smashed
into me, haven't I, over the years?
334
00:19:33,928 --> 00:19:36,928
There hasn't been much
to be optimistic about, has there?
335
00:19:37,928 --> 00:19:40,607
Elaine, look at where you are right now.
336
00:19:40,608 --> 00:19:42,608
What are you doing?
337
00:19:42,899 --> 00:19:45,568
I mean, you've given up your job,
you've even sold your car.
338
00:19:46,268 --> 00:19:47,628
Pete prefers to drive.
339
00:19:51,568 --> 00:19:53,899
It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop.
340
00:19:54,734 --> 00:19:56,260
It's just you're not you any more.
341
00:19:56,261 --> 00:19:58,568
You don't even behave like you any more.
342
00:19:59,568 --> 00:20:02,568
To be honest, I feel like I've had
the stuffing knocked out of me.
343
00:20:02,899 --> 00:20:05,567
I can't stand any sort of confrontation.
344
00:20:05,568 --> 00:20:08,567
There's just so much tension
in the house.
345
00:20:08,568 --> 00:20:10,568
I feel like I've lost all my confidence.
346
00:20:21,904 --> 00:20:22,944
Thanks.
347
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,880
Hi.
348
00:20:38,881 --> 00:20:40,080
Do you mind?
349
00:20:45,636 --> 00:20:49,079
I just think I'm being an idiot
for coming out and helping them.
350
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,879
You're not helping them out, though,
are you?
351
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,112
This isn't about them, is it?
352
00:20:52,112 --> 00:20:54,591
Well, they deserve to be left
on the beach, with the tide out,
353
00:20:54,592 --> 00:20:56,723
looking like the fucking idiots they are.
354
00:20:57,643 --> 00:20:59,203
But Karen doesn't.
355
00:21:00,205 --> 00:21:01,205
But Karen doesn't.
356
00:21:09,491 --> 00:21:10,811
You're doing the right thing.
357
00:21:15,259 --> 00:21:17,059
Thank you.
358
00:21:43,592 --> 00:21:45,279
Here. Cheers, Aiden.
359
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,592
Here.
360
00:21:48,013 --> 00:21:49,591
Thanks, love.
361
00:21:49,592 --> 00:21:50,952
We're going to go.
362
00:21:51,928 --> 00:21:53,299
Don't you think it's better
to wait and face him,
363
00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:55,111
rather than doing it like this?
364
00:21:55,112 --> 00:21:56,591
I told him I was moving out today.
365
00:21:56,592 --> 00:21:58,631
Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he?
366
00:21:58,632 --> 00:22:01,592
Look, I couldn't honestly handle him
trying to talk me out of it.
367
00:22:02,592 --> 00:22:05,313
- This way, it's much better.
- It's not Pete's fault.
368
00:22:05,314 --> 00:22:08,592
- I should never have married him.
- So, why did you?
369
00:22:09,592 --> 00:22:11,160
I just thought, after what's happened,
370
00:22:11,161 --> 00:22:13,592
I needed someone
to take control of my life for me.
371
00:22:14,083 --> 00:22:16,043
It's the worst thing
I could have done, all right?
372
00:22:18,592 --> 00:22:20,592
Oh, nice one.
373
00:22:29,112 --> 00:22:31,431
Mr Fulcher to see you.
374
00:22:31,432 --> 00:22:32,591
Thank you.
375
00:22:32,592 --> 00:22:34,591
- Sean.
- Good to see you, Steve.
376
00:22:34,592 --> 00:22:35,592
And you.
377
00:22:36,632 --> 00:22:37,973
- Mr Fulcher.
- Hi.
378
00:22:37,974 --> 00:22:39,592
Take a seat, please.
379
00:22:40,592 --> 00:22:42,592
I see you've got a suntan.
380
00:22:42,845 --> 00:22:45,483
I see you've got
Detective Superintendent.
381
00:22:46,592 --> 00:22:48,361
Thanks for coming in today.
We just wanted to give you
382
00:22:48,362 --> 00:22:49,791
some background on the trial.
383
00:22:49,792 --> 00:22:52,111
Right, so,
there's definitely going to be one?
384
00:22:52,112 --> 00:22:55,592
Yes. And we are definitely going
to need you to give evidence.
385
00:22:56,003 --> 00:22:57,592
Well, I'm all ears.
386
00:22:58,145 --> 00:23:00,591
Well, the pre-trial concluded
this afternoon
387
00:23:00,592 --> 00:23:03,229
and the new judge,
Mr Justice Griffith Williams,
388
00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:06,093
has ruled that the confession
made to you by Halliwell
389
00:23:06,094 --> 00:23:08,591
will be admissible as evidence.
390
00:23:08,592 --> 00:23:11,591
He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox,
391
00:23:11,592 --> 00:23:13,631
- who ruled against you last time.
- Mm-hm.
392
00:23:13,632 --> 00:23:17,159
Halliwell tried to have it excluded
again, based on her original ruling,
393
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,434
but the new judge said that
the confession was made voluntarily.
394
00:23:20,435 --> 00:23:22,591
In his view, there was no oppression.
395
00:23:22,592 --> 00:23:25,592
And to not allow it
would offend good sense.
396
00:23:27,592 --> 00:23:30,126
You see, I thought I'd lost
my career because other people,
397
00:23:30,127 --> 00:23:33,463
who should have known better,
decided I'd done something terrible.
398
00:23:33,464 --> 00:23:35,591
But now it seems, apparently, I haven't.
399
00:23:35,592 --> 00:23:38,591
Look, I'd have understood
if you'd told us to fuck off.
400
00:23:38,592 --> 00:23:40,592
Yeah, that was never going to happen.
401
00:23:44,332 --> 00:23:45,492
Hm...
402
00:23:46,592 --> 00:23:48,161
So, how does your new Chief Constable
403
00:23:48,162 --> 00:23:50,592
feel about me
being his star witness, then?
404
00:23:58,120 --> 00:23:59,760
It's Elaine.
405
00:24:01,388 --> 00:24:03,060
Mrs Edwards,
you've been waiting for four years.
406
00:24:03,061 --> 00:24:05,873
- How are you feeling about the trial?
- Well, it's difficult.
407
00:24:05,874 --> 00:24:07,432
But we hope it's going to go our way.
408
00:24:07,433 --> 00:24:11,547
How do you feel about Halliwell
representing himself, Mrs Edwards?
409
00:25:32,893 --> 00:25:36,573
When was the last time
you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards?
410
00:25:36,607 --> 00:25:38,533
December 2002.
411
00:25:40,267 --> 00:25:42,493
She would have been 21
the following April.
412
00:25:42,553 --> 00:25:44,694
And I always thought
she'd turn up for her 21st birthday,
413
00:25:44,719 --> 00:25:45,719
but she never did.
414
00:25:47,587 --> 00:25:51,333
I got a card from her
every Mother's Day, without fail.
415
00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:55,740
But from 2003 onwards, I never got one.
416
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,160
Becky was very petite.
417
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,028
She was only 4'11" tall and she
could wear children's clothing.
418
00:26:04,053 --> 00:26:08,298
You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds.
419
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:10,700
She was just a child, really.
420
00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:17,314
Miss X, you have been granted
anonymity today.
421
00:26:17,806 --> 00:26:20,806
I understand you have a history
of drug abuse and prostitution,
422
00:26:20,831 --> 00:26:23,831
which is how you met Rebecca Godden.
423
00:26:23,856 --> 00:26:25,536
That's correct, yes.
424
00:26:25,561 --> 00:26:27,336
She was a friend of mine.
425
00:26:27,361 --> 00:26:29,681
But you have turned your life around
since then
426
00:26:29,706 --> 00:26:33,013
and are now married with two children.
427
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Yes.
428
00:26:35,007 --> 00:26:37,373
And my husband knows nothing
about my past life.
429
00:26:37,398 --> 00:26:39,238
And yet you still came along today,
430
00:26:39,263 --> 00:26:42,733
even though your past could have
been revealed to all and sundry.
431
00:26:43,547 --> 00:26:45,413
I thought it was important.
432
00:26:46,846 --> 00:26:47,846
I'm very grateful to you.
433
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,640
Please, stay where you are.
434
00:26:54,393 --> 00:26:55,873
Mr Halliwell...
435
00:26:56,834 --> 00:26:58,674
According to you...
436
00:27:01,434 --> 00:27:04,074
...I was besotted with Rebecca Godden.
437
00:27:04,099 --> 00:27:05,099
Correct.
438
00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:07,333
Even though I've never met her before.
439
00:27:10,313 --> 00:27:13,953
Sometimes you even give her money
to stop her going with other men.
440
00:27:14,547 --> 00:27:16,813
I remember, one night,
you picked me up for sex,
441
00:27:16,838 --> 00:27:18,838
you knew she was my mate and you said,
442
00:27:18,863 --> 00:27:20,973
"Don't tell Becks about this."
443
00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:24,973
Right, so I'm supposed
to have had sex with you, too, yeah?
444
00:27:25,613 --> 00:27:26,813
Yes.
445
00:27:27,447 --> 00:27:28,447
Twice.
446
00:27:31,791 --> 00:27:33,791
You see, I think there's a chance...
447
00:27:33,816 --> 00:27:35,816
...that you could be mistaken.
448
00:27:35,841 --> 00:27:37,841
So, take a long, hard look at me
449
00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:39,866
and confirm that the person
you're talking about is me.
450
00:27:39,891 --> 00:27:41,891
Because this is serious.
451
00:27:41,916 --> 00:27:43,596
Is this a joke?
452
00:27:43,621 --> 00:27:46,941
I am one hundred million percent
sure it's you.
453
00:27:49,187 --> 00:27:51,613
If we've had sex together twice...
454
00:27:54,053 --> 00:27:56,053
...what colour are my eyes?
455
00:27:57,380 --> 00:27:58,613
I don't know.
456
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,880
What colour were Becky's?
457
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,765
We compared soil found on the spade
458
00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:14,673
in the garage at Christopher
Halliwell's home address
459
00:28:14,698 --> 00:28:16,698
with a sample of soil from the field
460
00:28:16,723 --> 00:28:18,998
where Rebecca Godden's body was found.
461
00:28:19,023 --> 00:28:21,268
Becky was outside the club
462
00:28:21,293 --> 00:28:23,773
having some sort of argument
with this taxi driver.
463
00:28:23,798 --> 00:28:27,158
He was shouting at her.
It went on for quite a while.
464
00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:29,823
I'm pretty sure I heard him call her
"a fucking slag",
465
00:28:29,848 --> 00:28:31,848
or words like that.
466
00:28:31,873 --> 00:28:35,873
This row with the taxi driver,
when was that?
467
00:28:35,898 --> 00:28:38,898
Er, just after New Year 2003.
468
00:28:38,923 --> 00:28:41,123
I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd,
early in the morning.
469
00:28:41,148 --> 00:28:44,646
In the end, the driver somehow
persuaded her to get in the back
470
00:28:44,671 --> 00:28:46,053
and they drove off.
471
00:28:47,014 --> 00:28:49,014
Did you get a look at the driver?
472
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,039
Not clearly, no.
473
00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:54,064
And you never saw Rebecca again
after that?
474
00:28:54,547 --> 00:28:56,463
No. Never.
475
00:28:56,488 --> 00:28:58,648
Nor indeed have we been able
to find anybody else who has,
476
00:28:58,673 --> 00:29:00,053
after that night.
477
00:29:02,813 --> 00:29:03,813
Mr Halliwell...
478
00:29:04,547 --> 00:29:05,933
Do you have any questions?
479
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,253
Yeah, erm...
480
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,120
The taxi she drove off in,
481
00:29:12,145 --> 00:29:17,145
did it have a white illuminated sign
on it saying, well, "Taxi"?
482
00:29:17,170 --> 00:29:18,170
Yeah, it did.
483
00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:21,413
Thank you.
484
00:29:21,706 --> 00:29:24,706
Because, at that time, my car
did not have a light on the roof.
485
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,893
So, thank you.
486
00:29:34,893 --> 00:29:36,053
Thank you.
487
00:29:36,373 --> 00:29:38,533
The court has now broken until tomorrow.
488
00:29:38,558 --> 00:29:41,053
- If you could be back here for 9:00am?
- Fine.
489
00:29:44,147 --> 00:29:46,881
I'd heard most of that evidence
before. Hadn't you?
490
00:29:46,906 --> 00:29:48,073
Mm.
491
00:29:48,098 --> 00:29:51,578
We had all that back when Steve was
around, as far as I can remember.
492
00:29:51,603 --> 00:29:53,603
So, what have they been doing
for the last five years?
493
00:29:53,628 --> 00:29:56,628
All this new evidence!
All they've got is Steve.
494
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,193
And he must be so nervous,
after all this time,
495
00:29:59,218 --> 00:30:01,218
wondering what Halliwell is going to say.
496
00:30:15,567 --> 00:30:16,567
Tell us again, Mr Fulcher,
497
00:30:16,592 --> 00:30:19,592
what Christopher Halliwell told you
that day about the second victim.
498
00:30:19,672 --> 00:30:21,672
He said he had taken a prostitute
499
00:30:21,697 --> 00:30:24,537
from the Manchester Road area of Swindon,
500
00:30:24,562 --> 00:30:26,722
had sex with her
in the back of his taxi...
501
00:30:26,747 --> 00:30:28,747
...and then strangled her.
502
00:30:28,772 --> 00:30:31,813
I said, "Was it similar to Sian?"
He said, "Pretty much."
503
00:30:31,838 --> 00:30:33,838
I asked if there were any other victims,
504
00:30:33,863 --> 00:30:35,703
I said, "Is it just these two?"
505
00:30:35,728 --> 00:30:37,888
And he replied, "Isn't that enough?"
506
00:30:37,913 --> 00:30:40,273
OK, let's pause there.
507
00:30:40,298 --> 00:30:42,978
I'm sure Mr Halliwell
has some questions for you.
508
00:30:54,387 --> 00:30:56,653
I couldn't care less...
509
00:30:56,793 --> 00:31:00,213
...about not being cautioned by you.
510
00:31:00,542 --> 00:31:01,589
Sorry?
511
00:31:01,614 --> 00:31:05,024
It didn't bother me in
the slightest that...
512
00:31:05,049 --> 00:31:07,049
...my rights were breached.
513
00:31:07,074 --> 00:31:09,074
When I was arrested on 24th March,
514
00:31:09,099 --> 00:31:12,099
that was the first day
of a life sentence.
515
00:31:12,124 --> 00:31:14,124
- HE CLEARS HIS THROAT
- I knew that.
516
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:17,149
So, after I took you to Sian's body,
everything after that...
517
00:31:17,174 --> 00:31:19,174
...well, that was about pure revenge.
518
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:22,700
I don't quite follow you.
519
00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:25,987
Well, I didn't know about PACE
and codes and all that,
520
00:31:26,012 --> 00:31:28,652
but I knew enough to know that,
if I asked to speak to a solicitor,
521
00:31:28,677 --> 00:31:32,677
then everything else should stop
until that's been given to me.
522
00:31:32,702 --> 00:31:33,702
I knew that much.
523
00:31:33,727 --> 00:31:36,727
I asked you six or seven times,
524
00:31:36,752 --> 00:31:39,752
it's all been recorded,
and you kept refusing me.
525
00:31:40,547 --> 00:31:41,853
I knew that was wrong.
526
00:31:41,878 --> 00:31:44,878
I didn't care because I knew
I could turn it to my advantage.
527
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:47,293
So, all that whole story...
528
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:49,820
...about burying a girl in a field...
529
00:31:51,547 --> 00:31:52,547
...it was just a pack of lies.
530
00:31:53,447 --> 00:31:55,327
Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging
531
00:31:55,352 --> 00:31:59,472
that revenge played a part
in what happened that day,
532
00:31:59,497 --> 00:32:00,753
you must explain yourself.
533
00:32:00,778 --> 00:32:02,433
Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour.
534
00:32:02,458 --> 00:32:06,458
I had no idea if there was a body
buried in that field in Eastleach.
535
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,040
How could I if I'd never met
Rebecca Godden in my life?
536
00:32:11,065 --> 00:32:13,065
What happened was, at the end of 2001,
537
00:32:13,090 --> 00:32:15,090
I started driving these fellas around.
538
00:32:15,115 --> 00:32:16,115
Well...
539
00:32:17,547 --> 00:32:19,045
...drug dealers, they were.
540
00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:22,070
But I never asked them any questions
and they seemed to trust me.
541
00:32:22,095 --> 00:32:26,095
Now, one night,
at the end of March time 2003,
542
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120
they directed me out to this field
in Eastleach.
543
00:32:29,145 --> 00:32:31,145
And they carried this big holdall
544
00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:33,033
out of the boot of my taxi
into the field.
545
00:32:33,058 --> 00:32:35,058
Now, I drove off.
I came back for them later.
546
00:32:35,083 --> 00:32:37,053
I never asked them what they were doing.
547
00:32:37,906 --> 00:32:39,946
A few months later,
I was driving one of them around
548
00:32:39,971 --> 00:32:41,713
and he was drunk, right?
549
00:32:41,738 --> 00:32:44,253
And he tells me that they had buried...
550
00:32:44,278 --> 00:32:48,693
...a prostitute in that field that night.
551
00:32:48,718 --> 00:32:50,718
Now, I thought he was messing
552
00:32:50,743 --> 00:32:52,743
because he said it like it was nothing.
553
00:32:52,768 --> 00:32:56,288
So, when I took you to that field
in Eastleach,
554
00:32:56,313 --> 00:32:59,013
I had no idea
if there was a body buried there.
555
00:33:00,006 --> 00:33:01,573
And I can prove it.
556
00:33:02,307 --> 00:33:05,787
How deep down
did I say the body was buried?
557
00:33:05,812 --> 00:33:08,073
- You said five feet.
- That's right.
558
00:33:08,098 --> 00:33:11,058
And how deep was it actually buried?
559
00:33:11,083 --> 00:33:13,083
Er, about eight inches,
560
00:33:13,108 --> 00:33:14,385
cos the bedrock
was so close to the surface.
561
00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:15,433
Yeah.
562
00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:19,693
So, why would I say five feet
if it was only eight inches?
563
00:33:19,718 --> 00:33:22,718
Well, you also couldn't be sure
when you had murdered Becky.
564
00:33:22,743 --> 00:33:24,743
Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her.
565
00:33:24,768 --> 00:33:27,427
You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005.
566
00:33:27,452 --> 00:33:29,793
So what I surmised...
567
00:33:30,347 --> 00:33:33,347
...and from you getting wrong
the depth that she was buried,
568
00:33:33,372 --> 00:33:35,572
was that you had other victims
that you had buried,
569
00:33:35,597 --> 00:33:38,713
victims that we don't yet know about,
570
00:33:38,738 --> 00:33:41,738
and that you became confused
about which was which.
571
00:33:41,763 --> 00:33:43,835
That's an absolute pack of lies.
And you know that.
572
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:47,973
No, I know that you told me
you had murdered a prostitute
573
00:33:47,998 --> 00:33:49,998
and buried her in that field.
574
00:33:50,023 --> 00:33:52,023
I believed...
575
00:33:52,048 --> 00:33:54,728
...in that moment, that you were contrite
576
00:33:54,753 --> 00:33:56,588
and that you wanted to unburden yourself.
577
00:33:56,613 --> 00:33:58,901
- That's ridiculous.
- You said you could take me
578
00:33:58,926 --> 00:34:00,843
to the exact spot in that field
579
00:34:00,844 --> 00:34:02,031
where she was buried.
580
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,858
In fact, you were a few feet out,
581
00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:06,292
but we later discovered
the remains of Rebecca Godden
582
00:34:06,293 --> 00:34:09,586
in that field
that you had directed us to.
583
00:34:09,587 --> 00:34:13,319
Well, I only said that because
I wanted to get you in the shit.
584
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,799
We need to know why, Mr Halliwell.
585
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,104
Because he threatened my daughters.
586
00:34:18,105 --> 00:34:19,829
- I did what?
- You threatened my daughters.
587
00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:21,888
And nobody threatens my kids!
588
00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:24,534
- Absolute rubbish.
- That's why I took you to that field.
589
00:34:24,535 --> 00:34:26,855
Cos I knew for certain,
if anything was found there,
590
00:34:26,856 --> 00:34:28,497
then any third-rate solicitor
591
00:34:28,498 --> 00:34:30,913
would make mincemeat of the fact
I hadn't been cautioned
592
00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:32,938
and you'd be dropped right in it.
593
00:34:33,687 --> 00:34:36,687
But you haven't told us
what this threat was.
594
00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:40,313
I'm not going to say.
595
00:34:40,338 --> 00:34:41,693
You're not going to say?
596
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:42,973
No.
597
00:34:44,267 --> 00:34:48,773
Don't you think it's rather
important to tell us what it was?
598
00:34:49,207 --> 00:34:50,703
Well, there's no point.
599
00:34:50,728 --> 00:34:53,453
I can't prove it.
It's my word against his.
600
00:34:54,173 --> 00:34:55,333
I see.
601
00:34:55,358 --> 00:34:58,358
So, do you have any more questions
for Mr Fulcher?
602
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:02,860
Er...
603
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,800
No.
604
00:35:06,826 --> 00:35:08,346
Very well.
605
00:35:08,371 --> 00:35:09,851
This might be a good time
to take a break.
606
00:35:09,876 --> 00:35:12,076
Er, just one more thing. Erm...
607
00:35:12,101 --> 00:35:15,901
It was a pleasure ruining
your career, you corrupt bastard.
608
00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:39,924
"I do solemnly, sincerely
and truly declare and affirm
609
00:35:39,925 --> 00:35:41,924
"that the evidence I give
shall be the truth,
610
00:35:41,925 --> 00:35:45,445
"the whole truth
and nothing but the truth."
611
00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,925
You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you?
612
00:36:04,765 --> 00:36:05,925
Absolutely.
613
00:36:06,925 --> 00:36:09,605
You blame him for your confessions,
don't you?
614
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,924
I'm responsible for my own actions.
I've faced up to what I did to Sian.
615
00:36:13,925 --> 00:36:14,925
No, but you see, you haven't.
616
00:36:14,926 --> 00:36:18,553
You've never given a proper account
of what happened when Sian died,
617
00:36:18,554 --> 00:36:20,663
other than some nonsensical claim
618
00:36:20,664 --> 00:36:22,924
that she tried
to grab your steering wheel
619
00:36:22,925 --> 00:36:23,925
and then you went to punch her
620
00:36:23,926 --> 00:36:25,925
without realising you had a knife
in your hand.
621
00:36:27,925 --> 00:36:31,924
You abducted her for sexual
purposes, just as you did Rebecca.
622
00:36:31,925 --> 00:36:33,924
Er, that's ludicrous.
623
00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:35,925
- It was an accident.
- Was it?
624
00:36:36,450 --> 00:36:39,284
Is that why her leggings
and knickers were pulled down
625
00:36:39,285 --> 00:36:41,010
and her bra was missing?
626
00:36:41,378 --> 00:36:44,370
Listen, I came here to tell the truth.
627
00:36:45,125 --> 00:36:47,964
It doesn't matter to me
if the jury believes me or not.
628
00:36:47,965 --> 00:36:50,924
Yes, you keep saying that.
But that's not true, either.
629
00:36:50,925 --> 00:36:53,924
You received 25 years
for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
630
00:36:53,925 --> 00:36:56,924
But there is at least a chance
you could be released,
631
00:36:56,925 --> 00:36:58,924
albeit you'd be in your 70s.
632
00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:00,924
If you're found guilty
of Rebecca's murder,
633
00:37:00,925 --> 00:37:01,925
then you will never be released.
634
00:37:01,926 --> 00:37:04,924
So, actually, there's rather a lot
riding on this.
635
00:37:04,925 --> 00:37:06,924
Which is why you've constructed
this fantasy account
636
00:37:06,925 --> 00:37:08,925
of how you led the police to her body.
637
00:37:10,445 --> 00:37:11,890
It's what happened.
638
00:37:12,644 --> 00:37:16,327
Yes. Except, for it to be true, you
have to try and convince the jury
639
00:37:16,352 --> 00:37:18,669
you have never met Rebecca Godden.
640
00:37:19,925 --> 00:37:22,503
- I... I haven't.
- Which is why you're so desperate
641
00:37:22,504 --> 00:37:24,924
to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X,
642
00:37:24,925 --> 00:37:27,964
whom you inconveniently had sex with
on two occasions.
643
00:37:27,965 --> 00:37:30,925
I've never set eyes on her before
and, to be honest...
644
00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:34,764
- ...she's not my type.
- Not your type?
645
00:37:34,765 --> 00:37:35,924
What is your type, then?
646
00:37:35,925 --> 00:37:38,925
Well, certainly not that thin.
647
00:37:40,605 --> 00:37:42,570
Is your type size eight?
648
00:37:43,925 --> 00:37:44,925
Size ten?
649
00:37:46,925 --> 00:37:49,924
Pretty, young women who are out
and about on the streets of Swindon
650
00:37:49,925 --> 00:37:52,924
in the early hours of the morning,
is that your type?
651
00:37:52,925 --> 00:37:56,605
About five feet,
five feet two inches tall,
652
00:37:56,937 --> 00:37:58,257
on their own...
653
00:37:58,925 --> 00:38:00,285
...vulnerable.
654
00:38:02,224 --> 00:38:04,224
Is that your type?
655
00:38:42,262 --> 00:38:44,262
_
656
00:39:02,551 --> 00:39:04,551
Foreman of the jury,
657
00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:07,576
have you reached a verdict
upon which you are all agreed?
658
00:39:08,594 --> 00:39:09,594
We have.
659
00:39:09,925 --> 00:39:12,924
Do you find the defendant,
Christopher Halliwell,
660
00:39:12,925 --> 00:39:16,090
guilty or not guilty of murder?
661
00:39:16,925 --> 00:39:18,925
Guilty.
662
00:39:30,671 --> 00:39:32,671
Christopher John Halliwell...
663
00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:38,570
...you have been convicted by a jury
for the murder of Rebecca Godden.
664
00:39:39,125 --> 00:39:41,924
I observe that you lied to this jury
665
00:39:41,925 --> 00:39:45,285
about the circumstances
of the murder of Rebecca Godden,
666
00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:47,924
just as you lied to the jury
667
00:39:47,925 --> 00:39:51,130
about the circumstances
of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
668
00:39:51,925 --> 00:39:56,124
I have concluded that the level of
your offending is exceptionally high
669
00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:59,285
and direct
there will be a whole life order.
670
00:39:59,910 --> 00:40:01,550
Take him down.
671
00:40:13,751 --> 00:40:16,111
- Where's Yvonne gone?
- Oh, she's gone to find Steve.
672
00:40:35,285 --> 00:40:37,925
- Whole life?
- Yeah.
673
00:40:42,925 --> 00:40:46,605
The judge said his account made
no sense at all. He lied and lied.
674
00:40:48,644 --> 00:40:50,604
He was right, though.
675
00:40:52,118 --> 00:40:54,118
He did ruin me.
676
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:57,593
I mean, it occurred to me,
when I was facing him in court,
677
00:40:57,594 --> 00:40:58,873
that we cancelled each other out.
678
00:40:58,874 --> 00:41:00,519
That day, in order to bring him down,
679
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,924
it was like
I had to also lose everything.
680
00:41:02,925 --> 00:41:04,925
As if it was some sort of pact
between us.
681
00:41:19,605 --> 00:41:23,569
Karen, we wondered if you could
say something to the press.
682
00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:25,924
I've drafted some thoughts for you.
683
00:41:25,925 --> 00:41:28,124
I wondered if you and John
could make a joint statement,
684
00:41:28,125 --> 00:41:29,924
mother and father together.
685
00:41:29,925 --> 00:41:32,272
Right. Because I'm not giving up,
not till the truth comes out.
686
00:41:32,273 --> 00:41:34,108
- What?
- That wasn't a trial,
687
00:41:34,133 --> 00:41:35,121
that was a travesty.
688
00:41:35,122 --> 00:41:37,444
What about the drug dealers
Chris was talking about?
689
00:41:37,445 --> 00:41:38,924
Has anybody been looking for them?
690
00:41:38,925 --> 00:41:41,925
Was Fulcher involved with them?
We need answers.
691
00:41:42,925 --> 00:41:44,924
I'm not doing a joint statement
with John.
692
00:41:44,925 --> 00:41:46,328
You're on your own with him.
693
00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:48,925
And I don't need your notes.
I know what I'm going to say.
694
00:41:52,251 --> 00:41:54,251
Steven...
695
00:41:55,965 --> 00:41:58,925
Can you take my bag?
696
00:42:05,925 --> 00:42:08,924
I want to place on record
my thanks for the team
697
00:42:08,925 --> 00:42:11,648
led by Detective Superintendent
Sean Memory,
698
00:42:11,649 --> 00:42:14,925
who have brought this case
to a positive conclusion today.
699
00:42:15,262 --> 00:42:19,124
We have waited over five years
for this moment.
700
00:42:19,125 --> 00:42:22,924
This has been
an extremely painful journey,
701
00:42:22,925 --> 00:42:26,924
but at last
we have finally received justice
702
00:42:26,925 --> 00:42:29,323
for our beautiful little girl Becky.
703
00:42:29,324 --> 00:42:32,574
Sean and his team were left
with virtually nothing to go on
704
00:42:32,575 --> 00:42:34,924
after the evidence,
initially gathered by Steve Fulcher,
705
00:42:34,925 --> 00:42:37,182
had to be thrown out
virtually in its entirety.
706
00:42:37,207 --> 00:42:42,605
I want to thank, from the bottom
of my heart, Steve Fulcher.
707
00:42:43,604 --> 00:42:48,604
I will always be indebted to him
for bringing my little girl home.
708
00:42:48,629 --> 00:42:51,102
They worked tirelessly
with the Crown Prosecution Service
709
00:42:51,127 --> 00:42:53,654
to uncover new evidence
and bring this case to justice.
710
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:55,719
They are to be congratulated.
711
00:42:55,744 --> 00:43:00,346
But Steve should never have suffered
the terrible consequences,
712
00:43:00,371 --> 00:43:05,250
the loss of his reputation,
the loss of his career...
713
00:43:05,925 --> 00:43:08,925
...just for doing the right thing.
714
00:43:09,925 --> 00:43:10,925
Thank you.
715
00:43:17,125 --> 00:43:19,450
Go on. Go and talk to her.
716
00:43:24,925 --> 00:43:25,925
I can't.
717
00:43:27,925 --> 00:43:29,925
She's all right, you know?
718
00:43:30,704 --> 00:43:31,930
Like you, really.
719
00:43:39,064 --> 00:43:41,064
I just can't. It's too close.
720
00:43:52,445 --> 00:43:55,507
Steve Fulcher, this has been
a landmark case in many ways.
721
00:43:55,508 --> 00:43:58,594
And I know it's been a difficult
journey for you, personally.
722
00:43:58,595 --> 00:44:01,924
But how do you respond to those
who say we cannot have the police
723
00:44:01,925 --> 00:44:04,485
riding roughshod
over the rights of a suspect
724
00:44:04,486 --> 00:44:06,924
- as if it were the 1970s again?
- I agree.
725
00:44:06,925 --> 00:44:10,330
I agree. But what if next time it's
your daughter who's gone missing?
726
00:44:10,925 --> 00:44:14,924
And if another police officer finds
himself in the position I was in,
727
00:44:14,925 --> 00:44:16,455
what does he do?
728
00:44:16,456 --> 00:44:17,924
Now, after what's happened to me,
729
00:44:17,925 --> 00:44:20,498
he would be perfectly entitled
to give up on her,
730
00:44:20,499 --> 00:44:22,666
to take his suspect
back to the police station
731
00:44:22,667 --> 00:44:25,283
and let a lawyer advise him to go,
"No comment."
732
00:44:25,284 --> 00:44:30,690
Now, if she was still alive, your
daughter would then inevitably die.
733
00:44:31,771 --> 00:44:35,771
And the police's official position
on this seems to be,
734
00:44:35,796 --> 00:44:37,170
"So be it.
735
00:44:37,691 --> 00:44:40,691
"We're very sorry,
but she'll just have to die, then."
736
00:44:41,925 --> 00:44:43,925
Is that what we want?
57661
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