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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,989 --> 00:00:03,529 There was just nothing to explain it, nothing, 2 00:00:03,529 --> 00:00:05,322 it was just very, very scary. 3 00:00:05,322 --> 00:00:07,989 Narrator: You are about to see real people. 4 00:00:07,989 --> 00:00:09,031 This is not normal. 5 00:00:09,031 --> 00:00:12,529 Narrator: Reliving horrifying paranormal encounters 6 00:00:12,529 --> 00:00:14,281 for the first time. 7 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:14,572 (screaming) 8 00:00:14,572 --> 00:00:16,739 She said, you know, when I die, I'm gonna haunt you. 9 00:00:16,739 --> 00:00:18,989 Narrator: When family members pass away 10 00:00:18,989 --> 00:00:20,529 and return to haunt the living. 11 00:00:20,529 --> 00:00:23,822 That's the first time I had ever seen anything, 12 00:00:23,822 --> 00:00:26,780 and it is terrifying, I'm sorry. 13 00:00:26,780 --> 00:00:29,572 ♪ 14 00:00:29,572 --> 00:00:33,529 I buried this for nearly 30 years. 15 00:00:33,529 --> 00:00:36,529 Narrator: Be prepared to be afraid. 16 00:00:36,529 --> 00:00:44,529 ♪ 17 00:00:44,529 --> 00:00:50,197 (typing) 18 00:00:50,197 --> 00:00:56,529 Paranormal Survivor two, story number 17 take one. 19 00:00:56,529 --> 00:01:01,905 ♪ 20 00:01:01,905 --> 00:01:03,739 Narrator: Anita Spero and her family moved 21 00:01:03,739 --> 00:01:08,406 into their new house in Oswego 2006. 22 00:01:08,406 --> 00:01:13,197 Immediately her daughter began making new friends. 23 00:01:17,031 --> 00:01:19,989 When we moved in there my daughter started talking about a 24 00:01:19,989 --> 00:01:24,529 little boy named Billy, and then my daughter 25 00:01:24,529 --> 00:01:26,529 was telling me one day, "I'm talking to Billy, 26 00:01:26,529 --> 00:01:29,406 and he wants to know where his mom and dad are 27 00:01:29,406 --> 00:01:33,322 and he keeps pointing at the house across the street." 28 00:01:33,322 --> 00:01:35,239 Narrator: At first Anita thought nothing 29 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:39,947 of her daughter's encounter. 30 00:01:39,947 --> 00:01:40,529 Oh thank you. 31 00:01:40,529 --> 00:01:42,572 So this little boy in the neighbourhood. 32 00:01:42,572 --> 00:01:46,529 So with time I got to know my neighbours 33 00:01:46,529 --> 00:01:51,197 and she told me this story about Billy. 34 00:01:51,197 --> 00:01:55,864 !Billy was a little boy, actually his parents lived across 35 00:01:55,864 --> 00:02:00,239 the street from us, and Billy, all the kids 36 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:03,364 in the area for years would catch 37 00:02:03,364 --> 00:02:09,322 the bus outside our house, even way back when. 38 00:02:09,322 --> 00:02:11,281 And he was hit by the bus. 39 00:02:11,281 --> 00:02:14,489 Something to do with his grandma I don't know the entire story. 40 00:02:14,489 --> 00:02:17,655 Anita: I said, "Do you have a picture of him?" 41 00:02:17,655 --> 00:02:22,364 ♪ 42 00:02:22,364 --> 00:02:25,529 And then when my daughter came home, shoe pointed to it, 43 00:02:25,529 --> 00:02:27,448 and said, "mom, that's Billy." 44 00:02:27,448 --> 00:02:30,114 Oh yeah, he's always crossing that street to school, 45 00:02:30,114 --> 00:02:32,780 he's always out there. 46 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:42,780 ♪ 47 00:02:44,364 --> 00:02:47,031 I don't understand, how can this be? 48 00:02:47,031 --> 00:02:49,697 Narrator: If Anita had trouble believing it, 49 00:02:49,697 --> 00:02:52,905 her doubts would not last long. 50 00:02:52,905 --> 00:03:02,406 ♪ 51 00:03:02,406 --> 00:03:07,114 And I started seeing Billy looking in our window. 52 00:03:07,114 --> 00:03:09,529 (creaking) 53 00:03:09,529 --> 00:03:15,114 I've seen little glimpses of him, and it's quite scary. 54 00:03:15,114 --> 00:03:17,780 ♪ 55 00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:22,031 (creaking) 56 00:03:22,031 --> 00:03:24,864 I mean I wouldn't want to be, and this gets scary, 57 00:03:24,864 --> 00:03:27,655 I wouldn't want to be alone in a small room 58 00:03:27,655 --> 00:03:30,489 with him or in a closet. 59 00:03:30,489 --> 00:03:40,489 ♪ 60 00:03:40,529 --> 00:03:50,529 ♪ 61 00:03:54,530 --> 00:03:56,239 Narrator: The nighbours also reported 62 00:03:56,239 --> 00:03:59,281 seeing Billy around Anita's home. 63 00:03:59,281 --> 00:04:03,031 We've had a couple people come in and say straight out, 64 00:04:03,031 --> 00:04:06,613 "I just saw a little boy run into your basement." 65 00:04:06,613 --> 00:04:11,197 (clap of thunder) 66 00:04:11,197 --> 00:04:16,489 !Narrator: Strange things started to happen inside Anita's house. 67 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:25,655 ♪ 68 00:04:25,655 --> 00:04:30,031 When we come in, um, the cabinets in the kitchen, 69 00:04:30,031 --> 00:04:31,905 and we have kind of a big kitchen, 70 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:35,613 a lot of cabinets, they're all open. 71 00:04:35,613 --> 00:04:39,572 ♪ 72 00:04:39,572 --> 00:04:43,529 And then by the time you sit down to take your shoes off 73 00:04:43,529 --> 00:04:47,530 and go, "what's going on?" 74 00:04:47,530 --> 00:04:50,281 You turn around and they're shut, all of 'em, 75 00:04:50,281 --> 00:04:54,239 and you don't hear 'em, that's the crazy part, 76 00:04:54,239 --> 00:04:56,489 you don't hear 'em. 77 00:05:00,239 --> 00:05:02,947 Things were just getting weird in our house. 78 00:05:02,947 --> 00:05:04,780 Narrator: Anita assumed the ghost of Billy 79 00:05:04,780 --> 00:05:08,529 was behind the events in the kitchen. 80 00:05:08,529 --> 00:05:12,239 ♪ 81 00:05:12,239 --> 00:05:14,529 But she was wrong. 82 00:05:14,529 --> 00:05:20,239 ♪ 83 00:05:20,239 --> 00:05:23,156 Every time I would fall asleep in my bed I thought 84 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:25,572 I was waking up to some weird nightmares, 85 00:05:25,572 --> 00:05:28,529 like the house is on fire. 86 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:30,989 (screaming) 87 00:05:30,989 --> 00:05:35,489 But, um, it felt like I was being shaken awake, 88 00:05:35,489 --> 00:05:38,697 like shaken awake. 89 00:05:38,697 --> 00:05:45,655 (screaming) 90 00:05:45,655 --> 00:05:48,530 I felt like I was having the life choked out 91 00:05:48,530 --> 00:05:50,864 of me at that point. 92 00:05:50,864 --> 00:05:55,529 (screaming) 93 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:57,197 And I'd sit up and there's nothing there, 94 00:05:57,197 --> 00:06:00,697 and I thought I must be dreaming this, and this was happening 95 00:06:00,697 --> 00:06:02,697 for quite a few weeks. 96 00:06:02,697 --> 00:06:05,031 Narrator: Anita endured the terrifying night attacks 97 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:11,322 for over two months until she got some unexpected news. 98 00:06:11,322 --> 00:06:16,239 (phone ringing) 99 00:06:16,239 --> 00:06:17,114 Hello. 100 00:06:17,114 --> 00:06:20,281 I was sleeping and my husband woke me up and said, 101 00:06:20,281 --> 00:06:29,031 "so and so's on the phone and, uh, your mom died." 102 00:06:29,031 --> 00:06:34,864 And I'm like "oh my God," even though we hadn't talked 103 00:06:34,864 --> 00:06:39,780 in 8 years, you know it's still kinda shocking. 104 00:06:39,780 --> 00:06:41,572 (crying) 105 00:06:41,572 --> 00:06:46,529 And I said, "well okay, how did she die?" 106 00:06:46,529 --> 00:06:53,822 ♪ 107 00:06:53,822 --> 00:06:55,529 And I said, "was it from the cigarette?" 108 00:06:55,529 --> 00:07:01,072 And the person actually told me, "no, it was just a house fire." 109 00:07:01,072 --> 00:07:04,864 ♪ 110 00:07:04,864 --> 00:07:10,529 My mom was a drug addict and I knew she fell asleep 111 00:07:10,529 --> 00:07:13,031 with a cigarette, and I said, "okay, 112 00:07:13,031 --> 00:07:16,197 well when's the funeral and everything?" 113 00:07:16,197 --> 00:07:19,529 And the person said, "well it was 9 weeks ago." 114 00:07:19,529 --> 00:07:25,406 And I was like, "okay, so you're just calling me now?" 115 00:07:25,406 --> 00:07:28,529 Thank you, okay, oh God. 116 00:07:28,529 --> 00:07:29,489 Narrator: Anita's relationship 117 00:07:29,489 --> 00:07:32,156 with her mother had not been easy. 118 00:07:32,156 --> 00:07:35,529 She wasn't a real nice person at least to me, 119 00:07:35,529 --> 00:07:38,947 I don't know how she was with other people, but not to me. 120 00:07:38,947 --> 00:07:42,156 We had a bad falling out the last time I talked to her 121 00:07:42,156 --> 00:07:45,529 and she said, "you know, when I die I'm gonna haunt you." 122 00:07:45,529 --> 00:07:50,529 And she told me that, "I'm gonna be around you." 123 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:52,529 Narrator: To her horror, Anita realized 124 00:07:52,529 --> 00:07:55,989 that the nighttime terrors she was suffering had begun 125 00:07:55,989 --> 00:07:58,947 at exactly the same time her mother died. 126 00:07:58,947 --> 00:08:02,947 !Anita: So I tried to sleep in my room for a little while longer, 127 00:08:02,947 --> 00:08:05,822 but I just, I couldn't do it anymore, 128 00:08:05,822 --> 00:08:12,031 and she's a very frightening person, um, very frightening. 129 00:08:12,031 --> 00:08:19,780 ♪ 130 00:08:19,780 --> 00:08:23,613 I thought she was gonna kill me. 131 00:08:23,613 --> 00:08:28,031 ♪ 132 00:08:28,031 --> 00:08:31,322 A spirits personality does not improve with death, 133 00:08:31,322 --> 00:08:33,864 and if you were an evil person in life, 134 00:08:33,864 --> 00:08:36,989 you got joy out of victimizing people, 135 00:08:36,989 --> 00:08:40,529 you're going to try to do the same thing after death 136 00:08:40,529 --> 00:08:44,697 and it brings some sort of sick perverse satisfaction 137 00:08:44,697 --> 00:08:47,448 to that spirit. 138 00:08:47,448 --> 00:08:53,364 ♪ 139 00:08:53,364 --> 00:08:55,613 Narrator: But Anita would soon find it would take 140 00:08:55,613 --> 00:08:58,780 a lot more than moving to sleep on the couch 141 00:08:58,780 --> 00:09:02,114 to escape her mothers' wrath. 142 00:09:02,114 --> 00:09:04,905 ♪ 143 00:09:04,905 --> 00:09:05,572 (sigh) 144 00:09:05,572 --> 00:09:07,822 The other day I was putting my makeup on 145 00:09:07,822 --> 00:09:13,197 and, um, the lights flicker on and off. 146 00:09:13,197 --> 00:09:20,947 (flickering) 147 00:09:20,947 --> 00:09:21,739 You can see the shadow 148 00:09:21,739 --> 00:09:26,529 of something underneath our door just standing there. 149 00:09:26,529 --> 00:09:34,822 (flickering) 150 00:09:34,822 --> 00:09:36,489 It feels like someone's standing outside 151 00:09:36,489 --> 00:09:40,114 the bathroom door holding the door shut, 152 00:09:40,114 --> 00:09:41,489 and that time I did hear her, 153 00:09:41,489 --> 00:09:44,822 and I mean she cackles like a witch, it's not like a human, 154 00:09:44,822 --> 00:09:49,613 and I don't know if they do that purposely, but it's very scary. 155 00:09:49,613 --> 00:09:59,613 (cackling) 156 00:10:07,072 --> 00:10:09,529 (stove igniting) 157 00:10:09,529 --> 00:10:14,905 Narrator: The personal attacks became even more dangerous. 158 00:10:14,905 --> 00:10:24,905 (stove igniting) 159 00:10:26,364 --> 00:10:32,697 Somebody was turning on the stove random times of the day. 160 00:10:35,739 --> 00:10:36,364 (coughing) 161 00:10:36,364 --> 00:10:39,864 So you'd hear the tick, tick, tick, and it would be on, 162 00:10:39,864 --> 00:10:43,406 and just either gas, you could smell the gas. 163 00:10:44,156 --> 00:10:46,072 I think my worst fear is that 164 00:10:46,072 --> 00:10:50,322 she's gonna set the house on fire. 165 00:10:50,322 --> 00:10:51,572 My worst fear. 166 00:10:51,572 --> 00:10:55,322 (coughing) 167 00:10:55,322 --> 00:11:02,529 ♪ 168 00:11:05,530 --> 00:11:08,864 (fire crackling) 169 00:11:08,864 --> 00:11:15,864 (fire alarm beeping) 170 00:11:15,864 --> 00:11:21,489 ♪ 171 00:11:22,530 --> 00:11:32,406 ♪ 172 00:11:32,406 --> 00:11:33,864 (flickering) 173 00:11:33,864 --> 00:11:36,197 Narrator: Anita Spero had been tormented by the spirit 174 00:11:36,197 --> 00:11:40,529 of her estranged mother, but in a shocking escalation, 175 00:11:40,529 --> 00:11:44,529 the mother had started to threaten Anita's life. 176 00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:47,239 (fire alarm beeping) 177 00:11:47,239 --> 00:11:51,947 The fires are random, and it's not like in a fireplace, 178 00:11:51,947 --> 00:11:56,529 it will be the rug, the rug, it will be on fire, 179 00:11:56,529 --> 00:11:59,529 there'll be a flame there. 180 00:11:59,529 --> 00:12:02,989 Where it comes from, I don't, I mean, 181 00:12:02,989 --> 00:12:07,322 that's scary, because why is it there, how does it get there? 182 00:12:07,322 --> 00:12:11,905 None of us, there's no ignition source on my carpeting, 183 00:12:11,905 --> 00:12:14,114 and it's very scary. 184 00:12:14,114 --> 00:12:15,989 (fire alarm beeping) 185 00:12:15,989 --> 00:12:17,529 I know it's my mom doing it. 186 00:12:17,529 --> 00:12:21,364 My grandma told me that she used to start fires 187 00:12:21,364 --> 00:12:24,197 when she was younger, you know, nothing major, 188 00:12:24,197 --> 00:12:27,197 but it's still being a fire bug, 189 00:12:27,197 --> 00:12:29,739 and I think it's always stuck with her. 190 00:12:29,739 --> 00:12:30,905 (fire alarm beeping) 191 00:12:30,905 --> 00:12:33,072 Her goal would be to do something to me 192 00:12:33,072 --> 00:12:38,489 that is fire related because that's how she died. 193 00:12:38,489 --> 00:12:40,489 She has a thing with fire. 194 00:12:40,489 --> 00:12:42,156 (fire alarm beeping) 195 00:12:42,156 --> 00:12:45,529 Well, I was getting tired of it, I couldn't do it anymore, 196 00:12:45,529 --> 00:12:49,281 I couldn't take it, I didn't know what to do. 197 00:12:49,281 --> 00:12:52,156 ♪ 198 00:12:52,156 --> 00:12:53,864 Sorry. 199 00:12:58,905 --> 00:13:01,239 ♪ 200 00:13:01,239 --> 00:13:02,989 Narrator: Anita decided to call in the help 201 00:13:02,989 --> 00:13:07,529 !of paranormal investigator Dale Kaczmarek and his team. 202 00:13:07,529 --> 00:13:10,489 ♪ 203 00:13:10,489 --> 00:13:13,530 When I first met Anita, she was not in the very best 204 00:13:13,530 --> 00:13:20,156 of emotional states, she was very distraught, 205 00:13:20,156 --> 00:13:24,529 and she probably thought she was going crazy for a bit. 206 00:13:24,529 --> 00:13:28,529 And that kind of really drained upon her senses, 207 00:13:28,529 --> 00:13:33,364 so when she contacted me she wanted some peace. 208 00:13:33,364 --> 00:13:36,822 ♪ 209 00:13:36,822 --> 00:13:42,697 This was by far one of the most interesting and unique cases 210 00:13:42,697 --> 00:13:46,322 that we ever had a chance to investigate. 211 00:13:46,322 --> 00:13:51,031 ♪ 212 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:53,613 We were doing an EVP session upstairs 213 00:13:53,613 --> 00:13:56,529 in Anita's master bedroom, 214 00:13:56,529 --> 00:14:00,448 the EVP central Electronic Voice Phenomenon. 215 00:14:00,448 --> 00:14:06,239 We were all sitting around the bed, we had asked a question, 216 00:14:06,239 --> 00:14:09,529 "did you die in a fire?" 217 00:14:09,529 --> 00:14:12,529 (moaning) 218 00:14:12,529 --> 00:14:17,655 ♪ 219 00:14:17,655 --> 00:14:22,529 And a few seconds later, everybody in the room heard, 220 00:14:22,529 --> 00:14:29,197 what was best described as a female cry or moan, 221 00:14:29,197 --> 00:14:32,822 it sounded like ahh, ahh, sorta like that, 222 00:14:32,822 --> 00:14:35,322 it was very, very audible, it was picked up 223 00:14:35,322 --> 00:14:39,281 on all the digital recorders and all the cameras in the room. 224 00:14:39,281 --> 00:14:42,989 ♪ 225 00:14:42,989 --> 00:14:46,822 The follow up question said, "Is that you?" 226 00:14:46,822 --> 00:14:53,364 And then another response of that same cry, much lower, 227 00:14:53,364 --> 00:14:56,489 was then heard as well. 228 00:14:56,489 --> 00:15:03,947 It was my mom, I mean it could be no other voice. 229 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:10,780 (crying) 230 00:15:12,655 --> 00:15:16,031 I mean so strong like she was still alive, 231 00:15:16,031 --> 00:15:21,613 like it was very shocking, very unnerving, 232 00:15:21,613 --> 00:15:25,529 and really scary, it was like 233 00:15:25,529 --> 00:15:29,529 the answer I was waiting for, but now that I have the answer, 234 00:15:29,529 --> 00:15:35,197 now I'm really scared, really scared. 235 00:15:35,197 --> 00:15:38,322 ♪ 236 00:15:38,322 --> 00:15:39,529 Narrator: Hoping to gather evidence of 237 00:15:39,529 --> 00:15:46,739 the spirits true intentions, !Dale asked Anita to act as bait. 238 00:15:47,489 --> 00:15:53,031 Dale: During some of the EVP !sessions we actually used Anita 239 00:15:53,031 --> 00:15:56,239 as a trigger object; a trigger object is something 240 00:15:56,239 --> 00:16:00,529 that we use to illicit a ghost response. 241 00:16:00,529 --> 00:16:02,448 Why are you here? 242 00:16:02,448 --> 00:16:05,489 ♪ 243 00:16:05,489 --> 00:16:06,529 What do you want? 244 00:16:06,529 --> 00:16:07,364 Leave me alone. 245 00:16:07,364 --> 00:16:13,448 We put her in the room on the bed and we were recording 246 00:16:13,448 --> 00:16:15,822 to see if something was interacting 247 00:16:15,822 --> 00:16:18,530 with her while she was upstairs. 248 00:16:18,530 --> 00:16:21,529 (screaming) 249 00:16:21,529 --> 00:16:26,947 ♪ 250 00:16:28,114 --> 00:16:36,780 ♪ 251 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:39,989 !Narrator: Anita Spero had called in paranormal investigators 252 00:16:39,989 --> 00:16:44,572 to help her get rid of her mothers' evil spirit. 253 00:16:44,572 --> 00:16:48,529 We put her in the room to see if something was interacting 254 00:16:48,529 --> 00:16:52,529 with her while she was upstairs. 255 00:16:55,529 --> 00:17:00,529 And in fact we do have several segments and clips 256 00:17:00,529 --> 00:17:03,448 where she actually heard sounds in the room, 257 00:17:03,448 --> 00:17:08,489 of footsteps, noises and bumps right outside the door, 258 00:17:08,489 --> 00:17:09,529 and we were all downstairs at 259 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:14,406 that time monitoring so there was nobody around. 260 00:17:14,406 --> 00:17:21,156 (screaming) 261 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:22,529 Shocked. 262 00:17:22,529 --> 00:17:28,989 Validated, but really shocked, and if it's true that we're, 263 00:17:28,989 --> 00:17:32,322 in life, we're the same way in death, 264 00:17:32,322 --> 00:17:33,864 you know, I'm in real trouble. 265 00:17:33,864 --> 00:17:36,322 There was another camera that was set up in one 266 00:17:36,322 --> 00:17:41,489 of the children's' rooms, this camera was in the room, 267 00:17:41,489 --> 00:17:44,947 by itself, the door was closed, nobody was 268 00:17:44,947 --> 00:17:46,780 in the room at the time. 269 00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:50,529 Now, it's very common that sometimes cameras on tripods 270 00:17:50,529 --> 00:17:57,529 can come loose, and cameras might dip down a little bit 271 00:17:57,529 --> 00:17:59,864 when they come loose. 272 00:17:59,864 --> 00:18:02,239 ♪ 273 00:18:02,239 --> 00:18:05,529 But then the camera corrected itself back up, 274 00:18:05,529 --> 00:18:07,529 it went against gravity, which to me 275 00:18:07,529 --> 00:18:10,529 is something a camera does not do, so something 276 00:18:10,529 --> 00:18:15,529 was actually manipulating the camera in that room. 277 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:20,489 ♪ 278 00:18:20,489 --> 00:18:22,448 One of the most interesting things, however, 279 00:18:22,448 --> 00:18:25,739 happened when we were all downstairs. 280 00:18:25,739 --> 00:18:33,114 ♪ 281 00:18:33,114 --> 00:18:37,947 (footsteps running) 282 00:18:38,529 --> 00:18:40,655 Suddenly we heard the sound 283 00:18:40,655 --> 00:18:45,529 of several people running down the hallway. 284 00:18:45,529 --> 00:18:47,613 (footsteps running) 285 00:18:47,613 --> 00:18:49,697 and it was very definite footsteps, 286 00:18:49,697 --> 00:18:52,530 patter of feet running from the direction 287 00:18:52,530 --> 00:18:57,530 of the bathroom over our head and disappeared. 288 00:18:57,530 --> 00:19:00,864 (cackling) 289 00:19:00,864 --> 00:19:06,739 The different pyro kinetic activity that was seen with this 290 00:19:06,739 --> 00:19:10,197 by Anita and others in her home, I would put my best 291 00:19:10,197 --> 00:19:16,197 and most likely, it was Anita's mom that probably is creating 292 00:19:16,197 --> 00:19:19,489 that activity rather than a poltergeist 293 00:19:19,489 --> 00:19:23,239 because of the way Anita's mom died. 294 00:19:23,239 --> 00:19:29,613 ♪ 295 00:19:29,613 --> 00:19:36,072 We always try to give the client some advice, or recommendations 296 00:19:36,072 --> 00:19:41,905 of how they can, you know, alleviate the situation, 297 00:19:41,905 --> 00:19:45,489 one is to be very assertive about yourself and say that this 298 00:19:45,489 --> 00:19:51,864 is my home, you don't belong here, and to simply get out. 299 00:19:51,864 --> 00:19:54,406 ♪ 300 00:19:54,406 --> 00:19:57,529 Another thing I told her to do was to, you know, 301 00:19:57,529 --> 00:20:00,947 you have to take over your room, you have to sleep there 302 00:20:00,947 --> 00:20:03,989 no matter what happens there, 303 00:20:03,989 --> 00:20:08,780 and not let anything drive you out of your bedroom. 304 00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:10,529 Right now we're kind of still working 305 00:20:10,529 --> 00:20:15,114 at me taking my control back of my room, 306 00:20:15,114 --> 00:20:18,529 going up there and sleeping, and not being afraid, 307 00:20:18,529 --> 00:20:23,489 I haven't quite gotten there but I'm working on it. 308 00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:26,905 I mean he's very intelligent about this stuff, 309 00:20:26,905 --> 00:20:31,239 I think any advice he gives me, you know, is worth, 310 00:20:31,239 --> 00:20:34,406 you know, paying attention to, it's just getting 311 00:20:34,406 --> 00:20:39,947 the courage right now because she is scary. 312 00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:43,529 ♪ 313 00:20:43,529 --> 00:20:47,406 (cackling) 314 00:20:47,406 --> 00:20:50,530 And she did try it for a few nights and then she said 315 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:54,529 she couldn't take it, she went back downstairs. 316 00:20:54,947 --> 00:21:00,739 I thought cleansing, spirit walking, having priests over, 317 00:21:00,739 --> 00:21:04,529 anybody to come bless the house, saging, 318 00:21:04,529 --> 00:21:08,572 I've thought of all that, the problem is sometimes 319 00:21:08,572 --> 00:21:11,864 it doesn't make it go away, it makes it worse. 320 00:21:11,864 --> 00:21:17,613 It's the fear because I am very afraid of her so I don't know 321 00:21:17,613 --> 00:21:24,197 what to do, I really don't know what I wanna do. 322 00:21:24,864 --> 00:21:29,031 !Narrator: Petrified of provoking !her mother's spirit any further, 323 00:21:29,031 --> 00:21:33,031 Anita has not attempted to cleanse her house. 324 00:21:33,031 --> 00:21:35,114 Anita continues to live in fear 325 00:21:35,114 --> 00:21:40,031 of what her mother might do to this day. 326 00:21:40,031 --> 00:21:47,780 ♪ 327 00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:49,239 Narrator: Not all family phantoms 328 00:21:49,239 --> 00:21:52,031 are psychotic ghosts intent on causing harm 329 00:21:52,031 --> 00:21:54,864 to their living offspring. 330 00:21:54,864 --> 00:21:57,197 Sometimes the spirit of dead relatives might 331 00:21:57,197 --> 00:22:01,864 just not be ready to let go and move on to the afterlife 332 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:05,905 but that can bring it's own problems. 333 00:22:05,905 --> 00:22:09,072 ♪ 334 00:22:09,072 --> 00:22:15,072 (typing) 335 00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:20,780 Lynn's Lake House story number 27 take 1. 336 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:25,406 ♪ 337 00:22:25,406 --> 00:22:26,529 (projector ticking) 338 00:22:26,529 --> 00:22:32,239 !Lynn: The lake house has been in our family since about 1916. 339 00:22:32,239 --> 00:22:34,322 It belonged to my two godmothers, 340 00:22:34,322 --> 00:22:36,529 aunt Helen and aunt Sada. 341 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:42,156 The lake house is in La Salle, Michigan on Lake Eerie. 342 00:22:42,156 --> 00:22:46,530 If you walk it it's like going back to the turn of the century. 343 00:22:46,530 --> 00:22:47,406 ♪ 344 00:22:47,406 --> 00:22:49,406 Everything is exactly the same. 345 00:22:49,406 --> 00:22:52,072 There's been a few updates in the kitchen 346 00:22:52,072 --> 00:22:54,697 but other than that including the furniture, 347 00:22:54,697 --> 00:22:57,739 the things that are in the medicine cabinets, 348 00:22:57,739 --> 00:23:00,529 the things that are in the cabinets, the silverware, 349 00:23:00,529 --> 00:23:07,364 the dishes, everything is from back then, from the 1920's. 350 00:23:07,364 --> 00:23:09,072 So when you go there-- 351 00:23:09,072 --> 00:23:12,905 --When, I mean, people are in awe when they walk in. 352 00:23:12,905 --> 00:23:13,572 ♪ 353 00:23:13,572 --> 00:23:18,905 Aunt Helen was very stringent, she didn't like children. 354 00:23:18,905 --> 00:23:21,364 Growing up like my sister and I were not aloud 355 00:23:21,364 --> 00:23:24,529 to go into the living room, anywhere into the cottage. 356 00:23:24,529 --> 00:23:28,448 We were only allowed to go into the kitchen. 357 00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:31,489 She was just-- 358 00:23:31,489 --> 00:23:33,530 --Kinda very stern. 359 00:23:33,530 --> 00:23:35,822 I think she didn't like kids, Aunt Helen, 360 00:23:35,822 --> 00:23:39,529 because she didn't have any 361 00:23:39,529 --> 00:23:41,529 and I think when you don't have children 362 00:23:41,529 --> 00:23:45,864 you just don't have much tolerance for them. 363 00:23:45,864 --> 00:23:49,530 Aunt Helen passed away, I think I was 17 at the time 364 00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:53,031 and even at 17 I'd never been in the house. 365 00:23:53,031 --> 00:23:55,947 (waves splashing) 366 00:23:55,947 --> 00:24:00,072 When they passed away they !left it to my mother and father. 367 00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:08,572 ♪ 368 00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:11,239 When we first started going into the lake house, 369 00:24:11,239 --> 00:24:15,156 it's a funny feeling, I don't know how to explain it. 370 00:24:15,156 --> 00:24:25,156 ♪ 371 00:24:26,364 --> 00:24:28,989 It's a real heavy, odd feeling. 372 00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:31,406 You can just like feel things around you. 373 00:24:31,406 --> 00:24:37,197 And its just a creepy feeling that you know as soon 374 00:24:37,197 --> 00:24:40,655 !as you walk in, it's almost like you're not wanted there. 375 00:24:40,655 --> 00:24:46,989 It's almost like, "Go away, leave us alone." 376 00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:50,947 Narrator: Despite her reservations, 377 00:24:50,947 --> 00:24:55,239 Lynn tried to enjoy life in the lake house. 378 00:24:55,239 --> 00:25:00,989 ♪ 379 00:25:00,989 --> 00:25:05,529 Lynn: I spent the night, now this was in the early 80's 380 00:25:05,529 --> 00:25:08,529 at the lake house. 381 00:25:08,529 --> 00:25:13,072 The yellow room has got a door next to the bed 382 00:25:13,072 --> 00:25:14,739 that goes up into the attic 383 00:25:14,739 --> 00:25:18,031 and there's no windows in the attic. 384 00:25:18,031 --> 00:25:20,529 ♪ 385 00:25:20,529 --> 00:25:26,281 (door knob turning fast) 386 00:25:26,281 --> 00:25:30,613 The entire night it started and the door was just shaking 387 00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:33,530 and then it would get harder and harder. 388 00:25:33,530 --> 00:25:36,905 (door creaking) 389 00:25:36,905 --> 00:25:42,529 ♪ 390 00:25:43,822 --> 00:25:53,822 ♪ 391 00:25:57,489 --> 00:25:58,613 Narrator: Lynn Bringman had strange feelings 392 00:25:58,613 --> 00:26:03,529 !about the old lake house she had inherited from her Aunt Helen. 393 00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:06,780 This was the first time she had stayed over night. 394 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:12,489 Lynn: The entire night the door was just shaking. 395 00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:16,406 I mean I'm not kidding you, I was terrified! 396 00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:22,613 All night long it would get loud then go-- 397 00:26:22,613 --> 00:26:23,529 (stammering). 398 00:26:23,529 --> 00:26:27,114 Softer. I would think, "Oh it stopped, okay it stopped." 399 00:26:27,114 --> 00:26:28,947 And then it would start again. 400 00:26:28,947 --> 00:26:34,156 (door knob rattling) 401 00:26:34,156 --> 00:26:36,529 (door creaking) 402 00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:39,197 I was like a little kid hiding under the blankets 403 00:26:39,197 --> 00:26:42,156 and that's exactly what I was doing. 404 00:26:42,156 --> 00:26:47,322 ♪ I was up all night with this big light on and my head covered. 405 00:26:47,322 --> 00:26:48,572 ♪ 406 00:26:48,572 --> 00:26:50,406 Oh it was horrible. 407 00:26:50,406 --> 00:26:55,947 That's the first time that there was solid proof 408 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:59,905 that something was not quite right. 409 00:26:59,905 --> 00:27:08,529 ♪ 410 00:27:08,529 --> 00:27:13,322 I didn't sleep there again for 30 years. 411 00:27:13,322 --> 00:27:18,529 ♪ 412 00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:20,529 (waves crashing) 413 00:27:20,529 --> 00:27:22,406 Narrator: Lynn didn't stay away completely. 414 00:27:22,406 --> 00:27:26,529 She often returned for day visits with the family. 415 00:27:26,529 --> 00:27:28,822 Ready or not here I come! 416 00:27:28,822 --> 00:27:31,822 Lynn: My nephews were small and I was playing upstairs, 417 00:27:31,822 --> 00:27:37,529 this was soon after that, umm hide and seek upstairs. 418 00:27:37,529 --> 00:27:42,655 ♪ 419 00:27:42,655 --> 00:27:46,031 My mom was downstairs and she was saying, "Come on Lynn, 420 00:27:46,031 --> 00:27:48,448 come on down here, we want to go for dinner." 421 00:27:48,448 --> 00:27:51,864 And I said, "As soon as I find the boys, I will be down." 422 00:27:51,864 --> 00:27:54,655 Everyone was downstairs and my aunt was looking for us 423 00:27:54,655 --> 00:27:58,864 and then she heard a voice uhh, call out to her. 424 00:27:58,864 --> 00:27:59,572 Ghost: Lynn. 425 00:27:59,572 --> 00:28:02,655 Lynn: So I'm in the blue room looking for them 426 00:28:02,655 --> 00:28:06,489 and I heard my name called like in a whisper 427 00:28:06,489 --> 00:28:08,406 but loud enough for me to hear. 428 00:28:08,406 --> 00:28:12,072 It was like, "Lynn, Lynn." 429 00:28:12,072 --> 00:28:14,864 So I thought it was my oldest nephew Brad 430 00:28:14,864 --> 00:28:16,697 calling me to let me know. 431 00:28:16,697 --> 00:28:19,529 I thought, oh he heard my mom and he's trying 432 00:28:19,529 --> 00:28:22,529 to speed it up so I find him. 433 00:28:22,529 --> 00:28:30,529 ♪ 434 00:28:30,529 --> 00:28:33,947 So I walked into the room. 435 00:28:33,947 --> 00:28:37,739 Ghost: Lynn, Lynn. 436 00:28:37,739 --> 00:28:41,905 And it was that heavy horrible feeling again. 437 00:28:41,905 --> 00:28:51,905 ♪ 438 00:28:54,613 --> 00:28:59,739 You can feel it. You can feel that feeling of just get the hell outta here. 439 00:28:59,739 --> 00:29:06,697 And I was actually frozen, I was so afraid, I was terrified. 440 00:29:06,697 --> 00:29:08,529 (stammers) 441 00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:11,864 Even thinking that my nephews were in that room, 442 00:29:11,864 --> 00:29:13,905 I backed out and ran. 443 00:29:13,905 --> 00:29:16,281 I ran, I ran down the steps. 444 00:29:16,281 --> 00:29:17,489 I was terrified. 445 00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:18,530 I mean, taking a couple steps 446 00:29:18,530 --> 00:29:23,114 at a time thinking I'm leaving my nephews up there. 447 00:29:23,114 --> 00:29:26,529 (quick footsteps) 448 00:29:26,529 --> 00:29:29,406 Come to find out as soon as I got down there, 449 00:29:29,406 --> 00:29:32,529 nobody was up there with me I was by myself. 450 00:29:32,529 --> 00:29:36,739 She found us down there and so nobody was upstairs. 451 00:29:37,156 --> 00:29:41,529 My nephews were hiding behind a door downstairs. 452 00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:42,989 ♪ 453 00:29:42,989 --> 00:29:47,239 That was my Aunt Helen's room. 454 00:29:47,239 --> 00:29:48,613 There was no question in my mind. 455 00:29:48,613 --> 00:29:51,489 I mean, I knew it was Aunt Helen and Aunt Sada. 456 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:56,529 And I was the only, even though I was 25, 26 years old, 457 00:29:56,529 --> 00:29:58,406 I knew I was still young enough 458 00:29:58,406 --> 00:30:01,197 that they did not want me there. 459 00:30:02,530 --> 00:30:03,572 ♪ 460 00:30:03,572 --> 00:30:05,947 Narrator: Now grown up, it was Lynn's nephews turn 461 00:30:05,947 --> 00:30:09,655 to experience first hand the weird activity in the house. 462 00:30:09,655 --> 00:30:13,364 It wasn't till later when I had my first experience I was like, 463 00:30:13,364 --> 00:30:16,156 "Okay, maybe it's just not crazy Aunt Lynn 464 00:30:16,156 --> 00:30:18,989 telling ghost stories or my mom telling stories. 465 00:30:18,989 --> 00:30:20,364 I mean, it's, you know, 466 00:30:20,364 --> 00:30:23,905 there's some credibility to these claims." 467 00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:28,281 ♪ 468 00:30:28,281 --> 00:30:32,529 The first experience I had was roughly ten years ago. 469 00:30:32,529 --> 00:30:36,613 I can remember like it was yesterday, I'll never forget it. 470 00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:43,529 (fan clanking) 471 00:30:43,529 --> 00:30:46,989 I was in the twin bedroom and I was asleep 472 00:30:46,989 --> 00:30:51,448 and all of sudden the fan next to me came on. 473 00:30:51,448 --> 00:30:56,529 (fan clanking) 474 00:30:56,529 --> 00:30:58,780 It just came on in the middle of the night 475 00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:03,406 and it's broken so it started clanking, and it woke me up. 476 00:31:03,406 --> 00:31:04,322 I was like, "Oh my god." 477 00:31:04,322 --> 00:31:08,364 At first it shocks you cause it's so loud but then I looked 478 00:31:08,364 --> 00:31:10,989 to see it's the type of fan, 479 00:31:10,989 --> 00:31:13,655 it's old so it's not just a push button. 480 00:31:13,655 --> 00:31:16,529 So, I investigated, I tried to figure out if it's something 481 00:31:16,529 --> 00:31:20,529 I could've done or if there was a plausible explanation. 482 00:31:21,197 --> 00:31:22,529 It's a matter of deduction like, 483 00:31:22,529 --> 00:31:24,239 so could I have accidentally turned it on? 484 00:31:24,239 --> 00:31:27,572 No, I would have to reach around the opposite side of the fan. 485 00:31:27,572 --> 00:31:30,697 Could it have come on by itself, is it a short? 486 00:31:30,697 --> 00:31:33,281 Well, no it's never come on before. 487 00:31:33,281 --> 00:31:40,529 ♪ 488 00:31:40,529 --> 00:31:42,197 I even talked to some people about it 489 00:31:42,197 --> 00:31:46,529 to make sure I wasn't just crazy or, you know, making up stuff. 490 00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:47,947 Nobody else could figure out anything else. 491 00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:51,114 We couldn't accidentally get the fan to turn on by hitting it. 492 00:31:51,114 --> 00:31:53,947 The next day we tried anything, I mean, shaking it. 493 00:31:53,947 --> 00:31:55,822 Nothing could get it to turn on. 494 00:31:55,822 --> 00:31:57,864 This experience frightened me It was, 495 00:31:57,864 --> 00:32:00,322 it sent shivers down my spine. 496 00:32:00,322 --> 00:32:00,947 I just had-- 497 00:32:00,947 --> 00:32:04,114 --There's something going on here beyond just uhh, 498 00:32:04,114 --> 00:32:05,114 just an old house. 499 00:32:05,114 --> 00:32:06,947 Spirits have an electrical energy of their own 500 00:32:06,947 --> 00:32:10,322 and when their manifesting or trying to communicate with you 501 00:32:10,322 --> 00:32:13,739 that energy can interfere with these electronic devices 502 00:32:13,739 --> 00:32:18,281 and even turn them on when they're not plugged in. 503 00:32:18,281 --> 00:32:20,072 ♪ 504 00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:21,947 Brett:The amount of activity has escalated 505 00:32:21,947 --> 00:32:26,529 since my first experience, basically the last ten years, 506 00:32:26,529 --> 00:32:27,489 it's gotten more intense. 507 00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:31,156 Everybody who goes there has an experience at some point. 508 00:32:31,156 --> 00:32:34,529 Narrator: In 2013 Lynn decided to confront her fears 509 00:32:34,529 --> 00:32:37,529 and returned to the lake house. 510 00:32:37,529 --> 00:32:37,697 ♪ 511 00:32:37,697 --> 00:32:41,822 After 30 years I decided now come on, I'm going there, 512 00:32:41,822 --> 00:32:44,989 I'm going to clean it, I'm not gonna be afraid. 513 00:32:44,989 --> 00:32:47,529 It's been 30 years, this is ridiculous. 514 00:32:47,529 --> 00:32:50,655 So, I'm gonna go there and we're gonna spend the night, 515 00:32:50,655 --> 00:32:52,655 my husband and I and we're going to, 516 00:32:52,655 --> 00:32:56,697 you know, everything's gonna be fine. 517 00:32:56,697 --> 00:32:59,197 (vacuum humming) 518 00:32:59,197 --> 00:33:01,697 So, I'm upstairs vacuuming. 519 00:33:01,697 --> 00:33:05,864 (vacuum stalling) 520 00:33:05,864 --> 00:33:07,156 I heard this horrible noise 521 00:33:07,156 --> 00:33:12,489 and I was like, "Oh no, the vacuum cleaner just broke." 522 00:33:13,322 --> 00:33:17,530 So I shut it off and the noise is still going on. 523 00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:26,529 (vacuum stalling) 524 00:33:26,529 --> 00:33:29,239 So, I followed the noise. 525 00:33:29,239 --> 00:33:39,239 ♪ 526 00:33:40,489 --> 00:33:49,697 ♪ 527 00:33:49,697 --> 00:33:51,697 Narrator: After 30 years of staying away from 528 00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:54,530 the old house she had inherited Lynn Bringman 529 00:33:54,530 --> 00:33:57,529 had finally returned but the strange events 530 00:33:57,529 --> 00:34:01,448 that kept her away were still occurring. 531 00:34:01,448 --> 00:34:02,529 (rattling) 532 00:34:02,529 --> 00:34:04,739 Lynn: And in the back of the pink bedroom 533 00:34:04,739 --> 00:34:07,529 there was a metal fan and that had turned on. 534 00:34:07,529 --> 00:34:10,989 And it was like hitting the sides, which is, 535 00:34:10,989 --> 00:34:14,529 it's a metal fan so it was hitting the metal. 536 00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:18,530 (rattling) 537 00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:22,406 (thunder crashing) 538 00:34:22,406 --> 00:34:25,031 (screaming) 539 00:34:25,031 --> 00:34:26,947 And a storm brews 540 00:34:26,947 --> 00:34:30,529 and the electricity blows, no electricity. 541 00:34:30,529 --> 00:34:31,529 I'm like, "Oh!" 542 00:34:31,529 --> 00:34:34,448 It's pitch black. 543 00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:40,529 (thunder rumbling) 544 00:34:40,529 --> 00:34:45,697 (door creaking) 545 00:34:45,697 --> 00:34:48,947 I'm like, "This is horrid." 546 00:34:48,947 --> 00:34:50,697 ♪ 547 00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:55,529 (door creaking) 548 00:34:55,529 --> 00:34:57,489 Narrator: Unable to continue her work, 549 00:34:57,489 --> 00:35:01,322 Lynn and her husband decided to go to bed. 550 00:35:01,322 --> 00:35:03,364 So, I've got this one little flashlight 551 00:35:03,364 --> 00:35:05,989 and I'm not going from point A to point B 552 00:35:05,989 --> 00:35:08,489 without this flashlight. 553 00:35:08,489 --> 00:35:09,697 ♪ 554 00:35:09,697 --> 00:35:14,406 So I go to bed and I put the flashlight on the nightstand. 555 00:35:14,406 --> 00:35:20,697 And I tossed and turned and it was okay and I fell asleep. 556 00:35:20,697 --> 00:35:23,529 Then I woke up in the middle of the night 557 00:35:23,529 --> 00:35:26,197 and I had to go to the bathroom. 558 00:35:26,197 --> 00:35:27,072 ♪ 559 00:35:27,072 --> 00:35:29,697 I went, I reached for the flashlight 560 00:35:29,697 --> 00:35:33,529 and I couldn't find the flashlight. 561 00:35:33,529 --> 00:35:37,529 The flashlight is no longer on the nightstand. 562 00:35:37,529 --> 00:35:43,822 ♪ 563 00:35:43,822 --> 00:35:45,529 The flashlight is now on a table 564 00:35:45,529 --> 00:35:48,655 in front of the fireplace in the bedroom. 565 00:35:48,655 --> 00:35:49,655 ♪ 566 00:35:49,655 --> 00:35:53,322 I would never in a million years gone from there 567 00:35:53,322 --> 00:35:56,156 to here without a flashlight. 568 00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:56,739 (stammers) 569 00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:58,114 I wouldn't have done it. 570 00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,197 Some spirits may be being playful 571 00:36:00,197 --> 00:36:03,239 and hide objects to confuse you. 572 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,529 They may be doing it in a nasty way 573 00:36:05,529 --> 00:36:08,697 to make your life more miserable. 574 00:36:08,697 --> 00:36:13,364 The door to the hallway was open. 575 00:36:13,364 --> 00:36:17,864 ♪ 576 00:36:17,864 --> 00:36:20,156 (screaming) 577 00:36:20,156 --> 00:36:24,529 But in the middle of the pitch black is a darker 578 00:36:24,529 --> 00:36:27,739 than the dark figure. 579 00:36:27,739 --> 00:36:30,697 And it's kind of, not glowing but kind of moving, 580 00:36:30,697 --> 00:36:32,739 there's movement to it. 581 00:36:32,739 --> 00:36:35,529 (screaming) 582 00:36:35,529 --> 00:36:39,489 It's hard to describe because the place is pitch, pitch black! 583 00:36:39,489 --> 00:36:45,780 And it's even darker in the middle of that movement. 584 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:50,822 I mean it was just, it was horrible. 585 00:36:50,822 --> 00:36:52,529 There was no question in my mind. 586 00:36:52,529 --> 00:36:56,529 No question that it was my two godmothers, 587 00:36:56,529 --> 00:36:58,905 Aunt Sada, Aunt Helen. 588 00:36:58,905 --> 00:37:03,114 ♪ 589 00:37:03,114 --> 00:37:06,406 Well, that's the first time I actually, you know, 590 00:37:06,406 --> 00:37:10,697 I'd smelled things, I had felt things, I had heard things. 591 00:37:10,697 --> 00:37:17,529 This is the first time I had-- 592 00:37:17,529 --> 00:37:21,864 --It is, that's the first time I'd ever seen anything 593 00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:26,822 and it is terrifying, I'm sorry. 594 00:37:26,822 --> 00:37:29,448 It's terrifying. 595 00:37:31,529 --> 00:37:41,529 ♪ 596 00:37:41,529 --> 00:37:44,031 After I saw that figure I was thinking, 597 00:37:44,031 --> 00:37:45,529 "Get out of this house." 598 00:37:45,529 --> 00:37:49,114 I wasn't thinking anything else after the 30 years 599 00:37:49,114 --> 00:37:52,529 and all that I thought, "I'm doing it, I'm doing it, 600 00:37:52,529 --> 00:37:54,114 I'm doing it and all this happened. 601 00:37:54,114 --> 00:37:56,989 I thought, the only thing I could think of was, 602 00:37:56,989 --> 00:37:58,031 "Get out of this house." 603 00:37:58,031 --> 00:38:00,655 There was nothing else crossing my mind. 604 00:38:00,655 --> 00:38:04,406 Shadow figures are considered a more negative type of entity 605 00:38:04,406 --> 00:38:06,530 and when you see one it probably 606 00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:10,529 has some sort of negative connotation. 607 00:38:10,529 --> 00:38:14,529 Something bad might be about to happen. 608 00:38:14,529 --> 00:38:18,655 ♪ 609 00:38:18,655 --> 00:38:21,197 Narrator: Terrified of her experiences and dreading 610 00:38:21,197 --> 00:38:26,239 what might happen next Lynn decided to seek help. 611 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,529 Lynn: We decided to bring in a paranormal team 612 00:38:28,529 --> 00:38:33,780 just to see for sure because everybody felt 613 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:37,780 like this overwhelming feeling of-- 614 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:40,822 --Now I personally felt like dread, 615 00:38:40,822 --> 00:38:43,530 you know, just being in there. 616 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:45,529 We wanted confirmation. 617 00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:47,864 We wanted to know what was in the house 618 00:38:47,864 --> 00:38:50,281 or who was in the house. 619 00:38:50,281 --> 00:38:52,780 Our team's been around since 2007. 620 00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:56,529 We've worked on well over 400 cases to date. 621 00:38:56,529 --> 00:38:58,905 The first time we pulled up to this property 622 00:38:58,905 --> 00:39:02,529 it looked like an old creepy lake house. 623 00:39:02,529 --> 00:39:06,156 You kinda got the chills seeing it. 624 00:39:06,156 --> 00:39:11,529 ♪ 625 00:39:11,529 --> 00:39:14,448 So when we walked into this home you could feel 626 00:39:14,448 --> 00:39:15,989 that you weren't wanted there. 627 00:39:15,989 --> 00:39:17,613 Like there was a sort of energy 628 00:39:17,613 --> 00:39:19,529 that was like trying to get you out. 629 00:39:19,529 --> 00:39:22,031 When we did enter the house we did feel uncomfortable. 630 00:39:22,031 --> 00:39:26,613 Now we understand why Lynn was having that same experience. 631 00:39:26,613 --> 00:39:31,822 ♪ 632 00:39:31,822 --> 00:39:34,114 When you feel that sort of energy, you kind of 633 00:39:34,114 --> 00:39:38,947 have to beware cause you don't know what you're stepping into. 634 00:39:38,947 --> 00:39:43,822 ♪ 635 00:39:43,822 --> 00:39:45,529 When we first began the investigation, 636 00:39:45,529 --> 00:39:47,281 we started in the master bedroom. 637 00:39:47,281 --> 00:39:50,197 I set up three pieces of the equipment on the floor, 638 00:39:50,197 --> 00:39:53,239 I had the EMF detector, I have a E-pod 639 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,364 and I had a recorder sitting on the floor. 640 00:39:55,364 --> 00:39:59,529 So I was trying to draw that energy to those devices. 641 00:39:59,529 --> 00:40:03,072 ♪ 642 00:40:03,072 --> 00:40:03,780 I was walking around 643 00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:06,905 and I actually felt something brush up. 644 00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:14,989 ♪ 645 00:40:16,197 --> 00:40:25,529 ♪ 646 00:40:25,529 --> 00:40:26,655 Narrator: Lynn Bringman had brought 647 00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:28,529 in paranormal investigators to probe into 648 00:40:28,529 --> 00:40:33,322 !who was haunting their families old lake house. 649 00:40:33,322 --> 00:40:34,364 Karlo:I was walking around 650 00:40:34,364 --> 00:40:38,947 and I actually felt something brush up. 651 00:40:38,947 --> 00:40:44,529 It was like this cold feeling up against my elbow. 652 00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:47,031 And then it moved away. 653 00:40:47,031 --> 00:40:50,613 ♪ 654 00:40:50,613 --> 00:40:53,281 And right after that is when we actually heard 655 00:40:53,281 --> 00:40:56,031 the humming out in the hallway. 656 00:40:56,031 --> 00:40:58,529 (woman humming) 657 00:40:58,529 --> 00:41:01,364 I actually heard a woman humming 658 00:41:01,364 --> 00:41:03,239 almost like she was cleaning. 659 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,489 Like humming and singing in a way. 660 00:41:06,489 --> 00:41:11,822 (woman humming) 661 00:41:11,822 --> 00:41:15,281 Umm at that moment I was actually holding a camcorder 662 00:41:15,281 --> 00:41:19,156 and I heard some scuffles straight ahead of me. 663 00:41:19,156 --> 00:41:21,406 ♪ 664 00:41:21,406 --> 00:41:26,364 (slow heartbeat) 665 00:41:26,364 --> 00:41:28,364 I panned up and I actually caught 666 00:41:28,364 --> 00:41:31,780 a shadow man stepping out of the bathroom. 667 00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:35,197 ♪ 668 00:41:35,197 --> 00:41:39,529 It looked at me and stepped back into the bathroom. 669 00:41:39,529 --> 00:41:43,322 ♪ 670 00:41:43,322 --> 00:41:46,031 I was like, "Holy (bleep), Holy (bleep)!" 671 00:41:46,031 --> 00:41:50,905 I was freaking out, I mean, I wasn't expecting it, you know? 672 00:41:50,905 --> 00:41:52,989 This thing just steps out the bathroom 673 00:41:52,989 --> 00:41:54,780 and there it is, you know? 674 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:59,322 Just dark mass, it's darker than dark, it has no facial features. 675 00:41:59,322 --> 00:42:02,364 It's just a black mass. 676 00:42:02,364 --> 00:42:04,529 ♪ 677 00:42:04,529 --> 00:42:06,529 When you have that sort of energy, you have 678 00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:10,072 to watch yourself because you don't know what could happen. 679 00:42:10,072 --> 00:42:12,905 During my initial talk with Brett he had mentioned 680 00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,572 that Aunt Helen really didn't like people coming 681 00:42:15,572 --> 00:42:19,156 into her home, uhh including family members. 682 00:42:19,156 --> 00:42:23,156 So, with us coming in there that presence was angry 683 00:42:23,156 --> 00:42:26,031 that we're actually intruding on their property. 684 00:42:26,031 --> 00:42:28,031 Some spirits are extremely territorial 685 00:42:28,031 --> 00:42:29,655 because even though they're dead, 686 00:42:29,655 --> 00:42:31,864 they consider that location theirs. 687 00:42:31,864 --> 00:42:36,739 They lived there, they own it, you're the intruder. 688 00:42:36,739 --> 00:42:42,780 ♪ 689 00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:45,864 Karlo: When we caught the !humming upstairs we went to Lynn 690 00:42:45,864 --> 00:42:47,739 and actually played that evidence for her 691 00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:50,072 and she had mentioned that Aunt Helen 692 00:42:50,072 --> 00:42:54,529 would always hum and clean up in that area. 693 00:42:54,529 --> 00:43:04,322 (woman humming) 694 00:43:04,322 --> 00:43:06,905 After we finished up the investigation upstairs, 695 00:43:06,905 --> 00:43:08,364 we decided to go downstairs 696 00:43:08,364 --> 00:43:11,156 and see if we could collect anymore evidence. 697 00:43:11,156 --> 00:43:13,197 (deep growl) 698 00:43:13,197 --> 00:43:17,572 And we seen what appeared to be something moving on the porch 699 00:43:17,572 --> 00:43:21,905 and one of the investigators took a picture. 700 00:43:21,905 --> 00:43:23,905 ♪ 701 00:43:23,905 --> 00:43:26,864 We actually captured what appeared a woman standing 702 00:43:26,864 --> 00:43:31,156 on the outside of the porch area. 703 00:43:33,529 --> 00:43:36,739 To us we believe it was Aunt Helen. 704 00:43:36,739 --> 00:43:39,989 ♪ 705 00:43:39,989 --> 00:43:43,780 I think Aunt Helen doesn't want, or makes everybody uncomfortable 706 00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,406 there because it's her place. 707 00:43:46,406 --> 00:43:47,613 It was her place for-- 708 00:43:47,613 --> 00:43:51,905 --60 years and she doesn't wanna share it with anybody. 709 00:43:51,905 --> 00:43:54,489 She didn't really share her things. 710 00:43:54,489 --> 00:43:55,780 ♪ 711 00:43:55,780 --> 00:43:57,529 When the spirit you're dealing with 712 00:43:57,529 --> 00:44:00,572 is a deceased relative particularly one you 713 00:44:00,572 --> 00:44:02,406 did not get along well with, 714 00:44:02,406 --> 00:44:05,322 that negative entity may still not like you 715 00:44:05,322 --> 00:44:08,529 and want to continue to cause you trouble. 716 00:44:08,529 --> 00:44:11,530 So this an extremely difficult situation. 717 00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:14,947 I believe Aunt Helen is actually holding onto this home 718 00:44:14,947 --> 00:44:16,947 because she was very possessive of it 719 00:44:16,947 --> 00:44:20,529 and she was very mean in life, 720 00:44:20,529 --> 00:44:23,655 she's gonna carry that in the afterlife. 721 00:44:23,655 --> 00:44:24,156 ♪ 722 00:44:24,156 --> 00:44:26,822 When I sent the evidence to Brett, he was shocked umm, 723 00:44:26,822 --> 00:44:30,530 to actually see what we captured, you know, the video, 724 00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:32,947 the picture, all the EVP's we caught. 725 00:44:32,947 --> 00:44:35,780 You know, that validated his experiences 726 00:44:35,780 --> 00:44:37,655 of what's happening there. 727 00:44:37,655 --> 00:44:40,072 They confirmed it, they confirmed who we thought 728 00:44:40,072 --> 00:44:41,529 and they gave us confirmation 729 00:44:41,529 --> 00:44:44,989 that there's something definitely going on. 730 00:44:44,989 --> 00:44:48,281 The option to cleanse the place was given to us. 731 00:44:48,281 --> 00:44:51,529 We decided not to do it. 732 00:44:51,529 --> 00:44:52,530 It's also family you know? 733 00:44:52,530 --> 00:44:56,989 As irritating they it can be and as scary as they can be. 734 00:44:56,989 --> 00:44:58,529 It's still-- 735 00:44:58,529 --> 00:45:00,864 Having family around is also kind of, 736 00:45:00,864 --> 00:45:02,989 it's mixed feelings. 737 00:45:02,989 --> 00:45:07,364 A lot of it's scary experiences but also a lot of-- 738 00:45:07,364 --> 00:45:10,989 Stuff that you're okay with too. 739 00:45:10,989 --> 00:45:12,448 ♪ 740 00:45:12,448 --> 00:45:13,989 Karlo: And for them to know 741 00:45:13,989 --> 00:45:16,072 that it could possibly be Aunt Helen, 742 00:45:16,072 --> 00:45:19,529 maybe they'll feel more comfortable going there. 743 00:45:19,529 --> 00:45:21,780 You may be reluctant to get rid of the spirit 744 00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:25,114 of a former family member because family's are supposed 745 00:45:25,114 --> 00:45:26,281 to take care of one another. 746 00:45:26,281 --> 00:45:29,655 And you might feel a lot of guilt when you are trying 747 00:45:29,655 --> 00:45:32,448 to rid an entity from your house 748 00:45:32,448 --> 00:45:34,822 of someone you maybe grew up with. 749 00:45:34,822 --> 00:45:37,529 Everybody who goes there has an experience at some point 750 00:45:37,529 --> 00:45:41,448 and if it does get worse, maybe we'll have the house cleansed. 751 00:45:41,448 --> 00:45:44,529 And certainly, the intensity. 752 00:45:44,529 --> 00:45:47,448 I mean, the shadow figures, 753 00:45:47,448 --> 00:45:50,947 the voices coming in your head saying, "Get out!" 754 00:45:50,947 --> 00:45:53,364 I mean, those are pretty intense experiences 755 00:45:53,364 --> 00:46:00,031 and if they keep up she might have to get the boot. 756 00:46:00,572 --> 00:46:04,281 Narrator: For now, the lake house remains in the family. 757 00:46:04,281 --> 00:46:06,031 But Lynn and Brett spend as little time 758 00:46:06,031 --> 00:46:11,739 there as possible fearing what Aunt Helen might do next. 759 00:46:11,739 --> 00:46:21,739 ♪ 57358

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