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There was just
nothing to explain it,
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nothing it was just
very, very scary.
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Narrator: You are about to
see real people--
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This is not normal.
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Reliving horrifying paranormal
encounters for the first time.
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(screams) This place was really,
really haunted
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and I don't think I've ever
seen my dad so scared.
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When evil spirits
target children--
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It was definitely the
scariest night of my life.
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I buried this for
nearly 30 years.
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Be prepared
to be afraid.
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♪
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(typing)
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♪
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♪
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Mark: I was 13.
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I was having some
troubles in school,
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some family issues and my
parents decided that I should
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probably move to another place
to maybe get a fresh start and
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that way I could work harder at
school and pay more attention
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to things that were
important to my future.
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♪
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Narrator: Mark moved
in with his aunt
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and her baby
daughter, Megan.
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It was a move that would
change his life forever.
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It's encompassed my whole life
for a very long time--
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--almost 23 years in
some way shape or form
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and it's shown me that there are
things out there that me
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or you or anybody cannot account
for; these things are real.
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From the very
beginning of his stay,
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Mark got a bad
feeling about the house.
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Mark: It was a
ranch-style home,
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it was dated back
to the late-1800s.
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It used to have a basement, one
of the walls had actually
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been boarded up to what I
believe was a root cellar.
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So just my first impression
moving into the home was that
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this is very old and
this place is kinda weird,
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the way it's situated
on the street.
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♪
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200 feet from the house next
to it which was a very large,
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old home -
Victorian style.
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♪
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Narrator: Mark's uneasiness
increased further
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when strange things
started to happen.
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It almost felt like the house
had a mind of it's own
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and I had noticed a few things
like the toilet would flush
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in the middle
of the night.
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(flushing)
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♪
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And nobody
would be up;
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lights would come on by
themselves sometimes,
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heavy wooden doors would
open and close on their own.
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At night a few times, I
heard my door rattle;
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my doorknob rattle.
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♪
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(slam)
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(rattling)
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But the house itself definitely
had it's own personality.
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Young children, adolescents
are very vulnerable to spirits
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because they're closer
to the spirit world.
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They're not taught yet
to dissociate and discern
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everything that comes to them;
they take everything as it is
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and they see that and
because of that innocence,
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it's a lot easier for
them to connect with that.
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Kids have a lot of
energy in general,
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but there's some of the
kids that have so much energy,
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they don't know
what to do with it.
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That energy
sometimes spews out
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and can create what we call
the poltergeist anomaly.
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♪
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Narrator: Mark was soon
going to learn
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all about the destructive
power of poltergeist energy.
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♪
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Mark: It was a
Saturday evening--
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Just going out
for a little bit.
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--which was
not unusual.
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You be good
tonight, okay?
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And I was left to
babysit Meg and again,
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not an unusual thing, was
completely comfortable with it.
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♪
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I'd been in the house
alone plenty of times.
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At night and during the day
and never felt like--
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Well I never felt like I did
that evening, being watched,
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like someone else
was in the house.
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♪
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(baby crying)
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Meg was about 18 months
so just under 2 years.
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♪
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She really hadn't gotten
her legs underneath her yet.
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♪
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But this evening I had
heard a knock on our back door.
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(announcer talking)
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(knocking)
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♪
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Hey.
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Hi.
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I just happened to know
this particular officer
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that was working that night,
a friend of the family
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and he said that they had gotten
a report or a phone call
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through dispatch that we were
having a party in the house.
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Now again, I'm the
only one there with Meg,
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who is sound asleep in
her crib and he came in,
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he took a
look around.
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Because I knew
that the officer,
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he said 'yeah, it came
from next door'.
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The Victorian
next to us.
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And I had never seen anyone
come in or out of that house,
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we'd just always assumed
that it was purchased,
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bought and abandoned.
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!I remember coming home everyday
from school and there were
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newspapers on the front porch
!that were always being delivered
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and the mailbox was
overflowing with mail.
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And there's no way there could
have been a phone call
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come from inside that house,
there's just no way.
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♪
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And he said well I don't
have any explanation for you,
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just don't have anybody
over here you know,
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you're too young to be home
alone with people in the house
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besides you and Meg.
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After the officer left,
Meg started to cry.
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(baby crying)
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So obviously I went
inside the room,
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I figured she had
just dropped her bottle.
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(baby crying)
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I looked everywhere
for this thing.
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(baby crying)
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I went back into the kitchen
and made her a bottle
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and when I came back in the
room, there was the bottle that
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I had been looking for sitting
right in front of her crib,
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on the floor where I would
have been standing.
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♪
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So that kinda rattled me a
little bit because now I thought
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there's someone
in this house.
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♪
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So now I was a bit scared
so I gave her the bottle.
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♪
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Narrator: Fearing he was
not home alone,
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Mark decided to grab
some protection.
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♪
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Mark: Then reached behind the
couch where we kept a bat.
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♪
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As kind of our last defense,
our home security so to speak.
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♪
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And I walked from one corner
of the house to the other.
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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(knocking)
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♪
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♪
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Narrator: 13 year old Mark
Foster was home alone,
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babysitting his infant cousin
when he started to experience
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strange goings-on
in his house.
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♪
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(knocking)
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♪
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So when the knock
came to the door,
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I hit the ceiling.
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♪
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They had received
another report
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that we had a party
going on at my house.
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♪
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Checked everything out again,
made sure that I wasn't lying
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and that's when
I told him
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everything that was
going on in the house.
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You're the only
one in here.
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Honestly, he looked at me like
'I know he's not lying to me'.
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And he put his arm around my
shoulder and he said
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'You know what,
just hold tight'.
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He decided to go and find my
aunt to let her know
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that she needed
to come home.
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Narrator: As soon as
Mark was alone,
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the strange activity plaguing
his cousin started again.
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But now, it was
getting stronger.
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When I peeked in on her,
she wasn't crying
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but she was standing
straight up in her bed.
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♪
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Like someone was
holding her.
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Um, up underneath
the arms.
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Um, because at
that point,
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she couldn't stand without
holding onto something.
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♪
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And then I thought I heard
something behind me
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and I turned
to look--
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And maybe a second later
turned back around
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and she was sound asleep,
back laying down in her bed.
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♪
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Narrator: Then the strange
activity began to increase.
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(kettle whistling)
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The tea kettle
went off, full blast.
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(kettle whistling)
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When I walked into the kitchen,
every single electric burner
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on our stove was on, the
cabinets were open--
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♪
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(kettle whistling)
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The tea cups that she
never used - fine china -
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on their plates as if
someone was coming for tea.
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(kettle whistling)
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Quite frankly, almost
(bleep) my pants.
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Because I knew I needed
to go into that room.
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I didn't have a choice, I
had to turn the burners off.
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Sorry to be so blunt, but I
almost defecated on myself.
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That's how
crazy it was.
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!I made my way in there and threw
the tea kettle into the sink.
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♪
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Narrator: Instinctively,
Mark rushed back
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to protect his cousin but
whatever was in Mark's house
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had other ideas.
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Went to step through the doorway
and I was physically picked up
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and thrown backwards
through the door.
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♪
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Ugh!
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Aah!
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♪
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♪
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Narrator: Home alone
babysitting, 13 year old
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!Mark Foster was being tormented
by paranormal activity.
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But then it escalated
!into a violent, physical attack.
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And I was physically
picked up
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and thrown backwards
through the door.
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♪
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Ugh!
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Ahh!
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♪
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And I still have
the scar to prove it.
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8 to 12 stitches
I had to have.
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Sprits and ghosts are two
different things:
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spirits are something that
cross over, come back;
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ghosts are someone
that are here, stuck.
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Poltergeists anomaly
are built off energy;
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built up energy of
fear, fear based.
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And now that fear
basic grows from that,
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grows from energy from
children and from that
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it can be actually manipulating
to actually be a physical form
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and actually act out
to harm somebody.
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It's the fear that really
creates the anomaly
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that poltergeist
that's there.
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Narrator: Stunned
and bleeding,
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!Mark was afraid that his cousin
had been attacked too.
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♪
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I knew I was dealing
with something evil.
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The only way to
describe it.
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I was damn well determined
to get in that room,
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that was my only
thought: I need to get in,
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protect the baby.
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That's it.
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Nothing was gonna
keep me outta that room.
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I just put my shoulder down
and I ran as hard as I could.
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♪
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I grabbed her out of her crib,
walked back through the doorway
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into the living room and
sat down on the couch
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and just waited and um,
I was still bleeding.
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♪
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(buzzing)
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My aunt came home and saw the
condition I was in
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and instantly panicked and
was like 'What is going on?'.
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♪
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And I told her everything
that happened.
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Definitely I could tell
she was 100% believing me.
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♪
262
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Well it's sort of like
whatever it was said
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'I told you,
I got you'.
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That's the way I felt
afterwards: 'I got you',
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'Now you know'.
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'Now you know that I'm
here and we got you.'
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♪
268
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A spirit or a ghost may want to
try to kill someone just because
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they still either hold a grudge
towards that person that they
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knew in life or because
they're just a very violent,
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negative, possibly even
demonic type spirit.
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♪
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!Narrator: Still terrified by his
experience that night,
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Mark moved out of his
aunt's house shortly after.
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♪
276
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I became very introverted
after I came back to Chicago.
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Um, mostly because I had
lost a connection
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with not just my family but I
think a little bit of myself.
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Um, I was still kinda dealing
with the results of my attack.
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Um--
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So I didn't really
talk to anybody.
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♪
283
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The reason through my experience
why people are so hesitant
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to talk about paranormal
experiences or encounters is
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fear; that's it, fear.
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Their fear of being ridiculed by
people or fear of somebody not
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believing them or fear of
not knowing what to do.
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We're losing our connection with
trying to communicate with who's
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really there and we're getting
caught up with all this fear
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base and losing the sense of
communicating and understanding
291
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what we're all about here in
the physical and the spirit.
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♪
293
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Narrator: Years later,
Mark would get a clue
294
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about the reason
behind the attacks.
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♪
296
00:19:45,327 --> 00:19:50,666
I'm 100% convinced that my
encounter was a direct result
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of what they found
on that property.
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♪
299
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They dug up the foundation
of the old house--
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♪
301
00:20:07,558 --> 00:20:11,312
They uncovered a tunnel that
lead from the Victorian
302
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next door to the house
that we lived in.
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And when they knocked
down some of the brick,
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00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:21,196
they found the human
skeletal remains
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00:20:21,196 --> 00:20:23,449
of what appear
to be a family.
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♪
307
00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:34,251
But I believe personally, that
it was the angry spirit
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of if not that whole family, at
least the father figure
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00:20:38,172 --> 00:20:42,551
that they uncovered that
was trying to tell me
310
00:20:42,551 --> 00:20:49,057
'This is my house, this is my
family, I don't want you here'.
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'You're gonna get out
one way or the other'.
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♪
313
00:20:56,607 --> 00:20:59,859
I wouldn't want anything that
ever happened to me
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to happen to anyone,
even my worst enemy.
315
00:21:03,905 --> 00:21:05,574
Not in a million years.
316
00:21:05,574 --> 00:21:08,369
(kettle whistling)
317
00:21:08,369 --> 00:21:09,868
Ugh!
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00:21:09,868 --> 00:21:13,332
♪
319
00:21:13,332 --> 00:21:17,544
It was definitely the
scariest night of my life.
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00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:25,884
♪
321
00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:28,472
Narrator: Being tormented by
spirits for one night is bad
322
00:21:28,472 --> 00:21:35,437
enough, but for some children
the terror goes on and on.
323
00:21:35,437 --> 00:21:41,110
♪
324
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:46,407
(typing)
325
00:21:47,699 --> 00:21:48,907
!McKayla.
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00:21:49,618 --> 00:21:58,917
♪
327
00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:01,839
Narrator: Don MacDonald and
!his children McKayla and Cameron
328
00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:06,510
moved into a farm house
with a disturbing past.
329
00:22:06,510 --> 00:22:11,723
But the cheap rent proved
too good a deal to turn down.
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00:22:11,723 --> 00:22:14,560
♪
331
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,438
We knew the stories of the
farm, that a young girl,
332
00:22:17,438 --> 00:22:22,276
about 17 had been murdered there
and left in the barn to rot
333
00:22:22,276 --> 00:22:26,196
for 2 years before
her body was found.
334
00:22:26,196 --> 00:22:29,948
♪
335
00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:35,122
What started the search was
after the owner of the time
336
00:22:35,122 --> 00:22:41,795
had gotten in a fight with his
roommate or a tenant and um,
337
00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:46,175
well the one guy ended up dying
and then the police were called.
338
00:22:46,175 --> 00:22:49,136
♪
339
00:22:49,136 --> 00:22:54,516
I think there was more to the
murders than what they said.
340
00:22:54,516 --> 00:22:58,520
There's the possibility of a
body still existing
341
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,900
on the property,
what we were told.
342
00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:11,492
♪
343
00:23:11,492 --> 00:23:13,992
Narrator: When 16 year old
McKayla arrived,
344
00:23:13,992 --> 00:23:18,457
she felt a darkness
coming from the barn.
345
00:23:18,457 --> 00:23:27,005
♪
346
00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:30,385
The landlord had told us that
the previous owners
347
00:23:30,385 --> 00:23:34,473
had moved out really quick,
didn't even give a notification
348
00:23:34,473 --> 00:23:38,016
that they were leaving and
left everything there.
349
00:23:38,016 --> 00:23:40,061
They left real quick
without him even knowing
350
00:23:40,061 --> 00:23:44,274
so he wasn't sure
what happened.
351
00:23:44,274 --> 00:23:54,284
♪
352
00:23:54,451 --> 00:23:57,871
Everything in the
house was left,
353
00:23:57,871 --> 00:24:04,085
from the food on the
tables to all the furniture,
354
00:24:04,085 --> 00:24:06,255
clothes and such.
355
00:24:06,255 --> 00:24:15,013
♪
356
00:24:15,013 --> 00:24:20,435
Creepy, very creepy, kinda
like a chill going up your spine
357
00:24:20,435 --> 00:24:24,062
kinda thing, like
you're being watched.
358
00:24:24,062 --> 00:24:31,446
♪
359
00:24:31,446 --> 00:24:32,823
My daughter
McKayla didn't like it,
360
00:24:32,823 --> 00:24:37,953
she didn't like the feeling
of the place, it was just--
361
00:24:37,953 --> 00:24:41,748
she knew we couldn't really
afford too much, so.
362
00:24:41,748 --> 00:24:51,758
♪
363
00:24:53,091 --> 00:24:55,470
Children can tend to track
paranormal activity
364
00:24:55,470 --> 00:24:59,097
just because they are
more open to spirit
365
00:24:59,097 --> 00:25:02,101
and it's easy for spirit to
interact with them.
366
00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:07,274
A spirit may sometimes target a
child because that child is much
367
00:25:07,274 --> 00:25:14,573
more easier to terrorize or
scare out of a display of power
368
00:25:14,573 --> 00:25:19,036
and that child is unable
to defend themselves.
369
00:25:19,036 --> 00:25:27,126
♪
370
00:25:27,126 --> 00:25:29,463
Narrator: The family
settled into their new home
371
00:25:29,463 --> 00:25:31,423
as best
they could.
372
00:25:32,341 --> 00:25:34,133
The oppressive atmosphere
bothered them
373
00:25:34,133 --> 00:25:38,137
but nothing untoward
happened at first.
374
00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:39,556
♪
375
00:25:39,556 --> 00:25:42,517
I believe it was a few
months after we were there,
376
00:25:42,517 --> 00:25:46,145
you would here these
really loud bangs.
377
00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:48,607
Announcer: Police have a
suspect in custody--
378
00:25:48,607 --> 00:25:50,484
(loud bang)
379
00:25:50,484 --> 00:25:58,157
♪
380
00:25:59,743 --> 00:26:07,709
♪
381
00:26:07,709 --> 00:26:10,545
!Narrator: Shortly after 16 year
old McKayla MacDonald-Smith
382
00:26:10,545 --> 00:26:14,675
!and her family moved into a farm
house with a murderous past
383
00:26:14,675 --> 00:26:17,594
she started hearing
strange noises in the night.
384
00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:18,720
Announcer: --suffered
serious injuries.
385
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,432
I believe it was a few months
after we were there you would
386
00:26:22,432 --> 00:26:25,894
hear these really
loud bangs.
387
00:26:25,894 --> 00:26:28,188
Announcer: Police have a
suspect in custody--
388
00:26:28,188 --> 00:26:29,606
(loud bang)
389
00:26:29,606 --> 00:26:33,777
♪
390
00:26:33,777 --> 00:26:36,863
There was times where you
could just tell it was footsteps
391
00:26:36,863 --> 00:26:39,366
running on the
stairs back and forth.
392
00:26:39,366 --> 00:26:43,662
The footsteps sounded like
someone with work boots on
393
00:26:43,662 --> 00:26:47,749
walking up the stairs
and to the hallway.
394
00:26:47,749 --> 00:26:51,378
(footsteps)
395
00:26:51,378 --> 00:27:01,220
♪
396
00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:02,221
(running)
397
00:27:02,221 --> 00:27:03,890
And we would run
up there, you know,
398
00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:07,103
like is there an intruder,
or is my little brother
399
00:27:07,103 --> 00:27:08,395
out of bed
perhaps?
400
00:27:08,395 --> 00:27:14,860
♪
401
00:27:14,860 --> 00:27:18,655
But there was
never anyone there.
402
00:27:20,158 --> 00:27:23,076
Some of the early signs of
haunting can be things like
403
00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:28,247
lights flickering, doors
opening or closing,
404
00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:31,501
different things like that could
happen because that's what
405
00:27:31,501 --> 00:27:34,796
a spirit has the energy
to be able to do.
406
00:27:34,796 --> 00:27:44,806
♪
407
00:27:44,848 --> 00:27:54,858
♪
408
00:27:54,941 --> 00:28:01,157
♪
409
00:28:01,157 --> 00:28:03,867
There was the point
where there was doors
410
00:28:03,867 --> 00:28:06,703
and windows shutting
by themselves.
411
00:28:06,703 --> 00:28:16,671
♪
412
00:28:16,671 --> 00:28:18,297
We always had
problems with the lights,
413
00:28:18,297 --> 00:28:21,092
always turning on and off,
turned on the light and the
414
00:28:21,092 --> 00:28:25,013
light just turned off
on you, and it's like, "okay."
415
00:28:26,723 --> 00:28:27,599
(door slamming)
416
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:28,307
(scream)
417
00:28:29,726 --> 00:28:32,311
♪
418
00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:34,314
At a location where
there's been a violent death,
419
00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:37,859
particularly a murder, there
is a much greater chance that a
420
00:28:37,859 --> 00:28:42,321
haunting with result, because
when a spirit passes in that
421
00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:47,119
traumatic way there's usually a
lot of anger there and that pent
422
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:53,458
up anger with result in them
being locked to that location.
423
00:28:53,458 --> 00:28:57,336
♪
424
00:28:57,336 --> 00:29:02,301
Sometimes, 'cause I work late
at night the doors would start
425
00:29:02,301 --> 00:29:04,343
slamming and you didn't
know which doors were there,
426
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:09,267
'cause either the doors were
closed or it was a sound of like
427
00:29:09,267 --> 00:29:14,729
a wood stove door
closing really hard.
428
00:29:14,729 --> 00:29:17,356
♪
429
00:29:17,356 --> 00:29:18,567
(glass breaking)
430
00:29:18,567 --> 00:29:21,360
(creaking)
431
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:31,370
♪
432
00:29:33,291 --> 00:29:34,374
(door slamming)
433
00:29:34,374 --> 00:29:38,337
♪
434
00:29:38,337 --> 00:29:40,630
(door slamming)
435
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:49,055
♪
436
00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:53,727
It got pretty weird.
437
00:29:54,393 --> 00:30:04,403
♪
438
00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:14,413
♪
439
00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:19,586
♪
440
00:30:19,586 --> 00:30:22,547
Everyone was in bed and
I had just gone to bed,
441
00:30:22,547 --> 00:30:25,176
it was about 1:30
in the morning,
442
00:30:25,176 --> 00:30:26,425
and I just had
that feeling
443
00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:29,554
to look over in the
corner of my room.
444
00:30:30,222 --> 00:30:34,601
(creaking)
445
00:30:34,601 --> 00:30:44,611
♪
446
00:30:44,653 --> 00:30:54,663
♪
447
00:30:54,746 --> 00:31:00,543
♪
448
00:31:00,543 --> 00:31:03,880
And there stood this
man, and he had like a,
449
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,302
he was blacker than night, he
had a top hat on and it seemed
450
00:31:08,302 --> 00:31:12,223
to be like a trench coat type,
so back like in the olden days
451
00:31:12,223 --> 00:31:15,142
they used to wear
their long coats.
452
00:31:15,142 --> 00:31:25,152
♪
453
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,489
And to this day we call
him the man in black.
454
00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:36,205
♪
455
00:31:36,205 --> 00:31:40,500
It stood there for a few minutes
and I was too scared to move
456
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:45,672
and then it just took off
outside of my door,
457
00:31:45,672 --> 00:31:48,507
really scared me and had me
starting to believe
458
00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:51,094
that this place was really,
really haunted.
459
00:31:51,094 --> 00:32:01,105
♪
460
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,898
Hauntings can start out
with something as innocent as
461
00:32:03,898 --> 00:32:08,487
footsteps and they can progress
very rapidly into much more
462
00:32:08,487 --> 00:32:12,531
threatening activity, perhaps
it's because the spirit is
463
00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:16,454
feeling you out, what level
of fear are you going to have,
464
00:32:16,454 --> 00:32:18,621
what reaction are
you going to have,
465
00:32:18,621 --> 00:32:21,500
and the more they
can intimidate you,
466
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,543
the more they will
escalate their activity.
467
00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:25,463
♪
468
00:32:25,463 --> 00:32:28,382
!Narrator: McKayla was frightened
by the activity in the house,
469
00:32:28,382 --> 00:32:31,676
!but it was the nearby barn where
a young woman's murdered body
470
00:32:31,676 --> 00:32:36,432
had once been found that
really filled her with dread.
471
00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:42,687
From the barn you would
feel a lot of staring,
472
00:32:42,687 --> 00:32:44,482
it would make you
feel uncomfortable,
473
00:32:44,482 --> 00:32:47,318
you were always
constantly being watched.
474
00:32:47,318 --> 00:32:53,782
♪
475
00:32:53,782 --> 00:32:56,993
Whenever you were near windows,
especially in the kitchen,
476
00:32:56,993 --> 00:32:59,662
which was a great
view to the barn,
477
00:32:59,662 --> 00:33:02,458
you would see
fragments of shadows.
478
00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:12,468
♪
479
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:22,520
♪
480
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:32,611
♪
481
00:33:42,621 --> 00:33:50,548
♪
482
00:33:50,548 --> 00:33:51,630
(screaming)
483
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:59,097
♪
484
00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:08,982
♪
485
00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:11,110
Narrator: Since moving
into their new farm house,
486
00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:13,778
McKayla MacDonald-Smith
and her family had been
487
00:34:13,778 --> 00:34:17,158
experiencing paranormal
activity, then one night
488
00:34:17,158 --> 00:34:21,537
while standing in her kitchen
!McKayla had the strange feeling
489
00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:24,873
she was being watched
from the barn.
490
00:34:24,873 --> 00:34:34,883
♪
491
00:34:34,924 --> 00:34:44,934
♪
492
00:34:46,395 --> 00:34:48,021
(screaming)
493
00:34:49,273 --> 00:34:52,318
You'd see like this, it seemed
to be like a shadow man,
494
00:34:52,318 --> 00:34:55,613
and he would walk across one
of the beams in the barn
495
00:34:55,613 --> 00:34:58,199
and he would just walk
back repeatedly.
496
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:08,209
♪
497
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:13,963
The one that was in the
barn was always negative,
498
00:35:13,963 --> 00:35:17,716
he seemed always angry.
499
00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:23,722
(growling)
500
00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:26,976
Narrator: Help would come
from an unlikely source.
501
00:35:26,976 --> 00:35:28,687
(growling)
502
00:35:28,687 --> 00:35:30,105
(screams)
503
00:35:32,065 --> 00:35:35,527
When he would threaten her the
spirit she called man in black
504
00:35:35,527 --> 00:35:37,736
would show up and
step in front of her
505
00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:40,366
and kind of protect
her from him.
506
00:35:40,366 --> 00:35:41,533
(growling)
507
00:35:41,533 --> 00:35:46,372
Yeah he scared me, but at the
same time I felt safe
508
00:35:46,372 --> 00:35:47,746
from the other
spirits from him.
509
00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:49,748
So it was almost
like the property
510
00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:52,751
had it's own
black angel.
511
00:35:52,751 --> 00:36:02,761
♪
512
00:36:04,473 --> 00:36:08,059
Narrator: But the man in black
!couldn't protect McKayla and Don
513
00:36:08,059 --> 00:36:10,271
from what was
yet to come.
514
00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:12,855
(laughing)
515
00:36:12,855 --> 00:36:13,691
♪
516
00:36:13,691 --> 00:36:18,027
When I turned 17 my dad had
thrown a birthday party for me
517
00:36:18,027 --> 00:36:22,324
and I had brought a bunch of
my friends from my new school.
518
00:36:22,324 --> 00:36:24,535
♪
519
00:36:24,535 --> 00:36:27,329
We had the fire,
roasted some marshmallows,
520
00:36:27,329 --> 00:36:32,791
and we're all hanging outside,
and everyone had started to
521
00:36:32,791 --> 00:36:35,003
have a bad headache.
522
00:36:35,003 --> 00:36:41,218
♪
523
00:36:41,218 --> 00:36:45,804
My dad started to get a really
bad violent look in his eye,
524
00:36:45,804 --> 00:36:48,807
his head was
just driving him nuts.
525
00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:57,735
♪
526
00:36:57,735 --> 00:37:01,572
(screaming)
527
00:37:01,572 --> 00:37:04,241
And then all you heard was
the screaming outside,
528
00:37:04,241 --> 00:37:06,826
and we thought
someone was in the forest.
529
00:37:06,826 --> 00:37:08,287
No one knew
what to do,
530
00:37:08,287 --> 00:37:10,955
we didn't know if it
was a real person.
531
00:37:10,955 --> 00:37:14,917
(screaming)
532
00:37:14,917 --> 00:37:19,838
So my dad went out to the forest
and this was the first time
533
00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:22,718
anyone's gone to
the forest at night.
534
00:37:22,718 --> 00:37:32,728
♪
535
00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:42,780
♪
536
00:37:43,863 --> 00:37:47,117
We got close to the forest
and we never went in it,
537
00:37:47,117 --> 00:37:52,871
but we were walking by it, but
we got this strange feeling like
538
00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:58,670
we've never felt before and it
was like we shouldn't be there.
539
00:37:58,670 --> 00:38:08,680
♪
540
00:38:09,264 --> 00:38:13,143
And we just had to stop and
we just looked at each other,
541
00:38:13,143 --> 00:38:15,396
like, "okay, do
you feel that?"
542
00:38:15,396 --> 00:38:21,235
♪
543
00:38:21,235 --> 00:38:25,447
All of a sudden we see
this massive figure come
544
00:38:25,447 --> 00:38:27,990
like sticking
out of the forest.
545
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:38,000
♪
546
00:38:39,918 --> 00:38:47,926
♪
547
00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:49,680
Narrator: At her
17th birthday party,
548
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,973
McKayla MacDonald-Smith and
her friends were startled
549
00:38:51,973 --> 00:38:57,354
when they heard strange sounds
coming from a nearby forest.
550
00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:59,938
Her father Don
left the group
551
00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:03,942
to investigate the source
of the screaming.
552
00:39:04,736 --> 00:39:08,740
All of a sudden we see
this massive figure come like
553
00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:15,079
sticking out of the forest and
it just scared us completely
554
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:18,957
and we're just like, "yeah okay
we're done, we're running."
555
00:39:18,957 --> 00:39:28,218
♪
556
00:39:28,218 --> 00:39:33,849
(indistinct yelling)
557
00:39:33,849 --> 00:39:35,392
I remember just seeing
their flashlights
558
00:39:35,392 --> 00:39:39,104
and they came running back, like
I mean they came running back
559
00:39:39,104 --> 00:39:42,981
and I don't think I've ever
seen my dad so scared.
560
00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:44,983
♪
561
00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:47,986
If you're witnessing a
very large dark cloud,
562
00:39:47,986 --> 00:39:50,989
chances are that it's
multiple entities
563
00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:56,955
and probably multiple negative
entities gathering together.
564
00:39:56,955 --> 00:40:00,751
♪
565
00:40:00,751 --> 00:40:05,297
(indistinct yelling)
566
00:40:05,297 --> 00:40:10,008
♪
567
00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:14,890
Yeah that thing in the forest
was probably the number one
568
00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:18,016
most scariest thing I've ever
had to deal with so far.
569
00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:22,314
I would say this thing
was taller than us,
570
00:40:22,314 --> 00:40:27,068
it was bigger, I couldn't
even describe
571
00:40:27,068 --> 00:40:30,029
what the kind of
a shape it was.
572
00:40:30,029 --> 00:40:32,073
♪
573
00:40:32,073 --> 00:40:34,075
Advice I would give somebody
who's experiencing
574
00:40:34,075 --> 00:40:37,663
violent activity from a spirit
would be to contact
575
00:40:37,663 --> 00:40:42,292
a local paranormal team to
try to get assistance.
576
00:40:42,292 --> 00:40:44,042
♪
577
00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:47,005
Narrator: Shaken by his
experience Don called in
578
00:40:47,005 --> 00:40:51,049
a team of paranormal
investigators.
579
00:40:52,051 --> 00:40:56,097
The psychic and the
lead investigator,
580
00:40:56,097 --> 00:40:58,183
McKayla went
to the barn.
581
00:40:58,183 --> 00:41:04,062
♪
582
00:41:04,062 --> 00:41:05,440
The first time
we went in
583
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,694
we were getting spikes
on our K2 meters.
584
00:41:08,694 --> 00:41:17,075
♪
585
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:19,788
And at one point a
team member Brad;
586
00:41:19,788 --> 00:41:25,294
a medium, psychic, he picked up
on a male spirit who I believe
587
00:41:25,294 --> 00:41:31,258
he said was the male who
was murdered at the farm,
588
00:41:31,258 --> 00:41:33,091
and then as we were
moving around
589
00:41:33,091 --> 00:41:36,179
he picked up another spirit,
a female spirit.
590
00:41:36,179 --> 00:41:40,099
♪
591
00:41:40,099 --> 00:41:44,730
The first recording that
we caught was a male voice,
592
00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:46,440
it sounded agitated.
593
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,608
♪
594
00:41:47,608 --> 00:41:51,069
The first time we hear it,
it was basically just a 'hi',
595
00:41:51,069 --> 00:41:52,863
like, "woah, did
you all hear that?"
596
00:41:52,863 --> 00:41:56,115
We're all like,
"we all heard that."
597
00:41:56,241 --> 00:41:58,577
Ghost: Hi.
598
00:41:58,952 --> 00:42:02,706
When we all walked in there
no one wanted to be in there,
599
00:42:02,706 --> 00:42:04,374
it was hard
to breathe.
600
00:42:04,374 --> 00:42:07,126
♪
601
00:42:07,126 --> 00:42:11,048
My teeth were clenched
automatically, they hurt.
602
00:42:11,048 --> 00:42:15,510
♪
603
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:20,098
I was shaking, not from
fear but more from anger.
604
00:42:20,098 --> 00:42:23,060
And McKayla, she
couldn't breathe,
605
00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:27,146
like she was shaking, and I
guess her gums started to bleed.
606
00:42:27,146 --> 00:42:31,276
♪
607
00:42:31,276 --> 00:42:33,945
I had to walk out
of the barn.
608
00:42:33,945 --> 00:42:43,955
♪
609
00:42:45,164 --> 00:42:48,335
And Brad decided that this
oppressive feeling was getting
610
00:42:48,335 --> 00:42:53,172
to be too much and he started
asking more direct questions
611
00:42:53,172 --> 00:42:56,009
to if there was anything
there, and he was trying,
612
00:42:56,009 --> 00:42:59,138
basically get a response back
and at one point he started
613
00:42:59,138 --> 00:43:02,141
choking, he felt like
he was being choked out.
614
00:43:02,141 --> 00:43:11,817
♪
615
00:43:11,817 --> 00:43:14,193
And actually had to
leave that location
616
00:43:14,193 --> 00:43:18,197
because he was basically
getting in distress.
617
00:43:18,197 --> 00:43:22,994
♪
618
00:43:22,994 --> 00:43:28,875
And when I was in the barn by
myself I had what sounded like
619
00:43:28,875 --> 00:43:30,752
footsteps circling
me in the stone,
620
00:43:30,752 --> 00:43:32,211
it's a stone floor.
621
00:43:32,211 --> 00:43:35,882
(footsteps)
622
00:43:35,882 --> 00:43:41,220
So there was something of a
heavy weight walking around me
623
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:42,806
making the noise.
624
00:43:42,806 --> 00:43:45,224
♪
625
00:43:45,224 --> 00:43:48,770
I had stones thrown
at me from inside.
626
00:43:48,770 --> 00:43:53,984
♪
627
00:43:53,984 --> 00:43:58,237
A lot of just negative
feelings from the place.
628
00:43:58,237 --> 00:44:05,746
♪
629
00:44:05,746 --> 00:44:09,750
I just pretty much didn't like
the feeling in there and left.
630
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:15,131
♪
631
00:44:15,131 --> 00:44:19,593
If a spirit doesn't like you
or it is particularly negative,
632
00:44:19,593 --> 00:44:24,473
in rare cases it can throw
objects at you and obviously
633
00:44:24,473 --> 00:44:27,726
that is an expression of its
anger and its intent
634
00:44:27,726 --> 00:44:31,563
to hurt you, and that takes
an awful lot of energy,
635
00:44:31,563 --> 00:44:35,525
usually a lot of negative energy
to propel something
636
00:44:35,525 --> 00:44:38,237
through the air
like that.
637
00:44:38,237 --> 00:44:42,616
♪
638
00:44:42,616 --> 00:44:46,286
I have a photo of Brad walking
toward me and there is it looks
639
00:44:46,286 --> 00:44:49,664
like a black mass in the corner,
it's blocking any light
640
00:44:49,664 --> 00:44:54,377
behind it, it actually looks
like a human sized shadow.
641
00:44:54,377 --> 00:45:04,387
♪
642
00:45:04,429 --> 00:45:09,810
♪
643
00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:11,310
When we brought
the evidence back,
644
00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:15,565
I think for them it was
more of a reassurance.
645
00:45:15,565 --> 00:45:17,400
They felt justified,
vindicated, like,
646
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,529
"yes you guys got
something so it's real."
647
00:45:20,529 --> 00:45:30,329
♪
648
00:45:30,329 --> 00:45:33,625
When things were starting to get
more spooky here I didn't know
649
00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:36,335
if, you know, "was this
safe for us to be here,
650
00:45:36,335 --> 00:45:39,339
were we causing something
more than what we should,
651
00:45:39,339 --> 00:45:42,092
just by being here
and living here,
652
00:45:42,092 --> 00:45:44,262
was it safe for my
brother, or my dad,
653
00:45:44,262 --> 00:45:47,973
or me or anyone else
that came into the house?
654
00:45:47,973 --> 00:45:51,227
So 2014 we
decided to move.
655
00:45:51,227 --> 00:46:01,237
♪
656
00:46:04,698 --> 00:46:08,451
I think there was a lot that
happened in that barn that a lot
657
00:46:08,451 --> 00:46:13,957
of people will not
know, or will ever know.
658
00:46:13,957 --> 00:46:23,967
♪
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