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There was just nothing to explain it nothing. It was just very very scary. You are about to see real people. This is not normal
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reliving horrifying paranormal encounters for the first time
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Just so shocking things like this aren't supposed to happen when spirits send messages from beyond the grave
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It was very scary
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I buried this for nearly 30 years
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Be prepared to be afraid
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TJ's deadly dreams starting over 13 featuring TJ take one
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In 1985 I lived in Tampa, Florida
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I had a very vivid dream one night
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Was most intense dream I had ever had in my whole life at that point in time. I
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Could see the whole thing my brother was riding a bicycle a
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Van with big side mirrors was coming down the road
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It came up over the curb
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My brother his head hit the side mirror
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And he flew through the air
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And he just laid there it was like I was there and it woke me up I I woke up screaming
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Yeah, I mean it was so real
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TJ was disturbed by the experience but was relieved to wake up the next morning and realize it was only a dream
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TJ's dream came true
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It
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Wasn't until two days later the dream I had came true
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My brother had been killed my brother was hit by a drunk driver
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Driving a van that he wasn't supposed to be driving
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He didn't have a license
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And he came up over the curb
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And he hit my brother and killed him
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He left my brother to die right there in the sidewalk. He didn't stop it was hitting her up
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I was scared to death because I didn't know what was going on
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I
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Went back to Michigan for the funeral they hadn't caught the gentleman that hit my brother so they were still looking for him
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And
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it was strange because
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There was a blue house maybe
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Four blocks down that kept catching my interest
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Something kept telling me a voice kept saying this house. There's something about this blue house
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Wasn't until two weeks later
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It came out in the newspaper that they had caught the gentleman that they killed my brother
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And they put his address in the paper, which was kind of a shock
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And when we went to that address lo and behold, it was the blue house
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He was hiding in the house. He wouldn't come out
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It was suddenly clear to TJ that her visions were not dreams
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I'm sorry. They were premonitions. I
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Honestly believe my brother was telling me this is where the person is
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He's right here. He you know, listen to me. I
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was very scared because
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You don't know how to talk to people about these type of things
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One of the easiest ways for spirit to communicate with a person is through their dreams while that person is asleep
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They are more vulnerable at that point more open and so whatever the spirit is trying to communicate is easier
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So it really is very common
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TJ's deadly premonition about her brother was not to be her last
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I
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Had another premonition dream I have a friend of mine
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She came to me
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And told me that she wanted to say goodbye
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She knew he was dead
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She no longer understood how her brother fell
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She had never flcut back to a normal life
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and told me that she wanted to say goodbye.
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She knew she was going to be passing.
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I came home from work, and the person I lived with
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said, I have some bad news to tell you.
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And I said, I already know.
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Stephanie passed away.
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And she was just in total shock.
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She's like, how did you know?
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And I'm like, she came to me last night
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and told me she was going to be passing,
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and she just wanted to say goodbye to me.
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And I felt like I was cursed, because all these people
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are coming to me telling me they're dying.
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They're leaving me.
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This is how I felt.
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The nighttime visions kept on coming.
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It made it hard to go to sleep.
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I didn't want to, because it was like, am I going
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to have another dream tonight?
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Is somebody going to be gone tomorrow?
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So it was really hard to sleep.
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TJ's dreams continued on and off for over 15 years.
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Pat was my significant other for 23 years.
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In 2006, we decided to go separate ways.
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TJ and Pat remained friends, and Pat even moved
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into the upstairs apartment.
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One night, several months later, TJ had another
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of her special dreams.
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I woke up from having a bad dream about Pat.
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I was in a room with a bunch of people.
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And I was in a room with a bunch of people.
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And I was in a room with a bunch of people.
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And I was in a room with a bunch of people.
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I visually seen her laying down half on, half off her bed.
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And she was gray.
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And it scared me.
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That morning, because she lived, Patricia
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apartment.
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She came down to have coffee.
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And I asked her, I said, are you feeling OK?
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And she was like, yeah, I'm fine.
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But she didn't look, you know, herself as far as, you know,
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she looked extremely tired.
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That night, TJ was watching television
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when she heard a noise from the apartment where Pat lived.
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It was very scary.
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And I ran out the door and up the stairs.
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Pat was laying there, half on, half off the bed, gray.
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And it just shocked me to see that,
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because that was my dream.
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I was scared to death, because automatically, I
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thought of the dream.
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And I thought, did I do this?
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Because I dreamt of it.
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You know, because, as I said, it's scary to dream it
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and then to see it.
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She had lung cancer.
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And it was in its final stages.
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We may not be able to understand,
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but people who have a very close rapport in life
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continue that connection after death.
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And it's important that we listen and pay attention
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to what that spirit may be trying to tell us,
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because that bond is still there trying to help us.
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TJ told her new partner, Angel, about her deadly dreams.
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At first, I was a little skittish about it, you know.
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But I didn't doubt her any whatsoever
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until it happened to me.
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And that's the charming part of emotional connection,
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that you get to maograph tone, tone.
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Unfortunately, perhaps we do not get to do that.
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Was it granted that you and your siblings
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could have a chemistry that was like yours?
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With your close partner, can you afford
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exactly the right opportunity?
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Don't you think that would be the most
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Usually, warning of the death of someone close to her.
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At first, I was a little skittish about it, you know?
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But I didn't doubt her any whatsoever
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until it happened to me.
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Angel's uncle, Uncle Mandy, I called him Uncle Mandy.
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He was my buddy.
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I loved to hear his stories.
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And one night, he come to me in a dream.
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And I'm thinking, oh boy, here comes Uncle Mandy.
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And he's like, TJ, I want you to do me a favor.
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He says, I want you to tell Angel,
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thank you for loving me.
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She's always going to be my favorite niece.
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And I love you both for all the time you've spent with me.
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It was my time to go.
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And then I woke up.
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And it was probably 4 o'clock in the morning.
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And I got up because I knew what this dream meant.
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He had been sick.
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We'd been to see him a few times.
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I went to the kitchen table.
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And I sat down and started drinking coffee
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and waiting for Angel to wake up, thinking to myself,
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I know how she's going to take this.
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That's her favorite uncle.
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She loves him to death.
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How am I going to sit here and tell her
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that he came to me in a dream?
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TJ was drinking coffee.
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And she had this real down look on her face.
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And she told me, she says, you need to sit down
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and tell you something.
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And she says, I had a dream about Uncle Mandy.
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He came to me.
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First words came out of my mouth was, don't tell me he's dead.
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And immediately, she looked at me.
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And the tears started to flow because she
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knew what my dreams meant.
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And I started to tell her, I got out.
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He wants you to know he loves you.
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And you're his favorite niece.
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And Angel's phone rang.
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It was my aunt, my aunt Donna.
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And she says, Angel, Uncle passed away last night.
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And I told her, and I said, I know.
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She said, how'd you know?
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I said, because TJ told me.
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It was very hard to have to sit and tell Angel that somebody
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that she loved so much was going to die,
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that he had died already.
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I think what was a comfort was, to me,
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was that Uncle Mandy trusted me enough
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to come to me to tell me what he wanted his last message
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to his niece to be.
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And after that, I realized I have a purpose.
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And that is listening to the voices that wish to speak.
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They want to be heard still, the spirits.
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What at once I thought was a curse, as a gift today.
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The burden I felt 25 years ago has lifted.
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I don't feel that burden anymore.
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I have a purpose.
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I know what my purpose is now.
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Sometimes messages from the spirits
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are delivered with love, but not always.
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Sometimes they come not as a gift, but as a curse.
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Paranormal Survivor 2, Jennifer's spirits, take one.
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We moved there when I was around three years old.
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As I got older, I started noticing things.
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Doors, windows, doors, doors, doors, doors, doors.
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I was just a little bit more nervous.
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I was a little bit more scared.
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I was a little bit more scared.
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I was a little bit more scared.
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I was a little bit more scared.
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Doors sounded like they were closing, opening.
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You'd hear the door playing as they just open or close.
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And we would go into the back of the house,
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and the door would be either all the way open
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or all the way shut, just the opposite of what we left it.
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It wasn't just the doors that seemed
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to have a mind of their own.
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It was just the doors.
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It was just the doors.
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It was just the doors.
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My mom and I were at home by ourselves.
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We had the lights going off and on.
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Soon, the strange activity in the house
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began to get more frightening.
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My mom, she always said every morning,
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she would sit at the kitchen table and drink her coffee
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and read the paper.
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And she kept saying something out of the corner of her eye.
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I'd sit near the flame lighters, her and I,
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and whenside, the entire house was like a fire hazard.
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A fire drizzard, blaming our father,
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who was the name I normally heard.
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And she was always not listening.
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Strange things have been happening in the home of Bill
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Salzman and his mother.
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But the activity was about to escalate.
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She finally looked up the hallway
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and there was a man standing there in a brown suit with,
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there was no face.
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It was just the body.
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And as she looked at it, it moved off and just disappeared.
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She was really scared about that.
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We named the ghost John not so much as a joke
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because it's just we wanted to put a name to it.
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And it got to the point where when we would hear things
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that we would just say, oh, it's just John.
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One of our neighbors asked us if we realized that someone had
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passed away in our house before we moved in.
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We're like, no, we didn't know that.
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And they said, yeah, the gentleman
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passed away in your kitchen.
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Said he had a heart attack there.
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And we're like, do you know what his name was?
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And they said his name was John.
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So that, you know, gave us chills.
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The activity continued but did not get worse.
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And the family learned to live with it.
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But 20 years later, a tragedy would change things
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and not for the better.
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My father passed away in 2001.
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And my mom had lived there by herself at that time.
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She said that the presence of John seemed to increase.
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She would actually feel about it somebody touch her.
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And she just couldn't explain any of it.
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And it got to the point to where she wanted to sell the house.
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And that's when I decided to buy the house.
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In 2006, Bill moved back into the family home
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with his daughter, Jennifer.
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When Jennifer was six years old, we
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noticed that she would look up at the hallway and just stare.
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He was more of a, like, in a black suit, I guess.
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And he had black hair.
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And I could see his face more in detail.
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Like, his eyes were kind of like slanted, I guess.
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And he wore glasses sometimes.
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We would watch her.
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And she'd start talking and waving at somebody.
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And then she would smile.
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And we could never figure out.
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We'd always go and look.
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And we never could see anything or figure
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out what she was doing.
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Sometimes it would be standing in her closet.
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Other times it'd be standing at the foot of her bed.
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It never did anything or said anything at that time.
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It would just stare at her.
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It was more of dark shadows just standing there
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and watching me.
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And it was just kind of creepy.
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I think children and young adults
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are more apt to see spirits because they
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still have that ability.
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They haven't grown out of it.
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They're much more sensitive.
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There's an innocence there.
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And they don't know that it's anything unusual or wrong
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to see a spirit from the other side.
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It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
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The older Jennifer got, the more intense and disturbing
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the activity became.
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There was a little kid at the end of my bed.
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She was wearing a little white dress.
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I think her hair was more long, kind of a medium brown color.
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I was really freaked out about it when I saw her.
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I had this little stand I would do my hair in.
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And she would just be there.
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Turn around, just gone.
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I know she sat at the end of my bed,
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just in a little ball one time.
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And that really scared me.
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I was just so scared.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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I was like, oh, my god.
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She got off her head, she got rid of her blanket.
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She went into bed.
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Oh my god.
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I just wanted to fight.
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It was probably happen, like, every other day.
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The activity plaguing Jennifer continued to get worse.
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Come join us.
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When I turned 14, it escalated.
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Kill yourself.
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Ever since she moved into her grandmother's old house, Jennifer had been visited by spirits.
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But the activity had taken a darker turn.
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When I turned 14, it escalated.
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It was like a big band of them just standing around my bed.
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They were starting to talk to me.
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I didn't know what it was, so I was just scared and didn't know what to do.
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I didn't want to be there alone.
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Sometimes I would just stay in my room because I didn't want to go past them.
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So I would holler for my parents to get them in there.
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My parents were like, it's just you, your mind's playing tricks on you.
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But I was like, I can hear something you don't understand.
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The spirits returned on a regular basis, always with the same message for Jennifer.
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They wanted her to join them in the spirit world.
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There were about four shadows around my bed just talking.
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I could hear them.
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I could hear them very clear.
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And I didn't know what to do.
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I was just kind of sitting there, like having a panic attack, just crying.
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You should be on this side.
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Come here.
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You shouldn't be there.
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Kill yourself.
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They were just telling me that I should kill myself and you don't belong here anymore.
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Come join us.
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They were all like talking at the same time, but I could understand all of them.
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It lasted for about an hour.
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It went from like five in the morning to six.
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Come here.
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You should be on this side.
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You shouldn't be there.
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Kill yourself.
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And I called the police and had them, I had told them what was happening, about how these
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voices were telling me to kill myself.
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It was just horrible.
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It was terrifying and something you could not understand.
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I was woken up and my wife tells me, hey, you're going to have to get up.
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The ambulance and fire truck's on their way to our house.
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And she goes, Jennifer had thoughts of suicide.
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And so she called 911.
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I didn't know what to do at that point.
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I went into the emergency room and there were like few psychiatrists that came in.
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They were talking to me.
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Jennifer was in the hospital for eight days total.
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I felt more relieved when I went into the hospital because there weren't any voices
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or anything.
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I got a lot of help from all the people that were there.
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I had like 10 people talking to me and they didn't find anything.
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It's not a case of mental illness hearing spirit voices.
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Maybe years ago they might have thought that.
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But people have the natural ability to hear voices from the other side.
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Before Jennifer came home, we ended up contacting Heart of Illinois Paranormal Investigators.
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I've been working as a paranormal investigator since approximately 2007.
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It was oppressive.
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It was a really, when you walked in the bedrooms, there was really a heavy feeling.
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Jennifer's bedroom being the worst.
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We detected multiple spirits in the house.
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There was mainly one in her room and it was male.
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He was angry and he wanted us gone.
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Her room was very oppressive.
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I mean it was just, the feeling in there was really heavy.
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I wouldn't have wanted to sleep in there either.
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He was just completely evil.
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Janice immediately began a cleanse to rid the house of the evil spirits.
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We went through the house with sage, holy water and blessed salt.
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And we would put salt on the windowsills and the corners and the closets.
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And we said prayers for the spirits to leave.
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We always say the Lord's Prayer after.
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And we put holy water crosses like on the windowsills and the doorway when we leave.
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And then we go to the next room, do the same thing through each room.
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Jennifer's room, you know, was a little hard.
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It was a little dark.
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Jennifer's room, you know, was a little hard.
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Because the spirit didn't want to leave.
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After they performed the blessing, it got very quiet in the house.
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To this day, I haven't had anything, no noises or anything happen throughout the house.
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When I went home, when I got home actually, I was kind of nervous
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because I didn't know if they were still going to be there.
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When I got there, it was so different.
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I mean, there was nothing. It was so quiet.
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My daughter actually at one point said that it kind of feels weird because nothing is happening.
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My room was just so quiet.
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But I do listen to my music still because I don't want to hear anything just in case.
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While evil spirits might send messages to the living to try to destroy life,
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there are other entities whose messages are aimed at saving lives.
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Paranormal Survivor 2, Robert's Phantom Fighters, story number 15, take one.
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I met Ronnie in the ninth grade and we ended up being pretty good friends.
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Ronnie was a joker. There was a party. He was like the funniest guy.
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He was just that all-American kind of guy.
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A keen boxer, Ronnie also liked to fight outside the ring.
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He was a very aggressive fighter.
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Ronnie was a scrapper. He was that kind of guy that could handle himself.
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Ronnie was fighting a kid.
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We noticed that every time he got hit, he was doubling over.
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And we ran up to him. We noticed that he was bleeding everywhere.
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And the kid that he was fighting with had a knife in between his fingers,
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like a little short blade.
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And every time he was punching him, he was bleeding.
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So Ronnie didn't make it.
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It was hard. It was hard.
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Ronnie dying was a hard hit.
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At that age, you're going to live forever.
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Here's this guy that we all looked up to.
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He was a good fighter. He was a good fighter.
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Here's this guy that we all looked up to.
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Twenty years later, a family emergency brought Robert back to his roots.
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My stepdad developed cancer. And to make it easier on my mom to help out,
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I ended up renting Ronnie's mother's old house,
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because it's directly across the street from my mother's house.
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Robert had fond memories of the house, but strange things started to happen.
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My wife, she had come down to visit me, and she had brought her daughters with her.
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And so we were sleeping in the room.
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And the bed started shaking.
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And when I say shaking, it's violent. It's not a joke.
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It's violent. It's not just a little bump on the bed. I mean, it's a big, heavy bed.
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When I felt the kicking of the head of the footboard, it woke me up.
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And I was freaked out. I was scared.
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And I woke Robert up, and I was like, I felt that.
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It just felt like when you opened your eyes, you would see someone at the foot of the bed,
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maybe hitting the bed, but there was never anyone there.
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The bed-rattling wake-up calls happened every night for weeks.
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Each time at 3 a.m.
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I wasn't comfortable there at night. It was, like, scary.
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I slept real close to him.
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During the week, Robert was alone, and had grown tired of being awoken at 3 a.m.
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I had worked a pretty long day, and I just, for some reason, I happened to fall asleep on the couch.
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The next morning, Robert was awake.
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He was awake.
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He was awake.
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He was awake.
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He was awake.
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He was awake.
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Since moving into the home of his late high school buddy,
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Robert Johnson had been woken by strange activity every night at 3 a.m.
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For some reason, I happened to fall asleep on the couch.
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He didn't realize it at the time, but that decision saved his life.
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I heard a loud series of bangs, three loud bangs in the house.
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And I woke up, and I noticed that it was really dark in the house.
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So then I noticed I couldn't breathe.
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At that point, I realized it was, I smelled fire.
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It was smoke, so I dropped to the floor, and when I got on the ground,
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I could see the fire pretty much everywhere on the back, towards the bedrooms,
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and coming down the hallway.
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At that point, I realized my house was on fire,
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so I kind of crawled towards the door and threw some clothes out,
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and that's how I got out of the house.
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I lost everything.
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The house had a faulty electrical service.
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They actually tracked the fire down to one breaker,
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to exactly right where it happened.
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The fire inspector told me that if I would have slept in the bedroom,
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that I wouldn't have made it, because it went up so quick.
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He was pretty shaken up from the fire.
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He tried to, like, you know, be strong and tough about it,
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but yeah, he was pretty shaken up about it.
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I had spoken to my sister, who also knew Ronnie,
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and she was like, oh my God.
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She was like, you've been waking up, being woken up at this time,
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every night, Rob, that means something.
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And she was like, I think that it was Ronnie trying to get you out of the house.
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She said, I think that he was just getting you prepared
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to get up and go every night, every night, three o'clock,
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to get you up and out and moving.
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I believe wholeheartedly that it was Ronnie trying to get you out of the house.
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I believe wholeheartedly that it was Ronnie just getting me out of there,
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making sure that I was going to be okay.
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Spirits become guardians of people on a daily basis,
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especially the loved ones, especially your family members and your friends.
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It's not uncommon to have a friend of yours you haven't seen for quite a few years
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that would become your spirit guide and help guide you through there.
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And you'd find out if they're reading for a medium,
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or even going to see a psychic, or even a visitation,
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you may see that person through a dream or physical state.
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With nowhere to stay, Robert moved in with Tina,
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but the nightly wake-ups continued.
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We would all sleep with our doors closed, and you could hear the doorknobs.
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You could see the doorknob turning,
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and they couldn't see us because we were completely blindfolded.
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You could hear those whole doors going closed,
503
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:32,260
because people were quickly getting up and seeing it,
504
00:37:33,260 --> 00:37:35,260
and there was no way they could see us.
505
00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:39,260
And the imposition they could see was just the kind of space
506
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,260
that they hadn't seen before.
507
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,260
All they could see was that one door turning,
508
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:51,800
And you could hear it, and I was like, Robert, you hear that?
509
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:52,600
Are you awake?
510
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:03,340
Sometimes at your door, you'd actually
511
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,880
feel the door moving, which could be explained away.
512
00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:09,220
Maybe the window was open, but not the doorknob.
513
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,220
There's no way the doorknob's going to twist back and forth.
514
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:16,280
And then the familiar terror returned.
515
00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:24,460
We still have the bed shaking.
516
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160
You would be laying in bed, and the next thing you know,
517
00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,200
your whole body's moving back and forth.
518
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:29,300
The bed's shaking.
519
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:38,880
The bed shaking, I would see a large, dark, black shadow
520
00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:40,380
in the corner of the room.
521
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:45,740
And it just gave off, like, just the scariest vibe.
522
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:51,680
Spirit attachment is very common.
523
00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:55,360
If a person is in a situation where they're in a house that's
524
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:58,260
active, and that spirit has an attachment to that person,
525
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,620
when they move from house to house,
526
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,000
it's not uncommon for that spirit
527
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:02,500
to also move from house to house.
528
00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:05,160
Soon, the shadow became more physical.
529
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:12,740
We've seen full shadows move from one room to the other.
530
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,340
And you just look up, and it's like something
531
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,140
nonchalantly walks by.
532
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,180
And you're like, wow, would you look at that?
533
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,140
I was eating, and you just heard, like, the loudest thud.
534
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,780
And when I felt it, I was like, oh, my god.
535
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,640
I felt it move.
536
00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:35,240
My fork flew out of my bowl.
537
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:37,000
And I was speechless.
538
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:42,580
My daughter was like, oh, my god, did you see that?
539
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,340
And I was, I couldn't even speak.
540
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:51,460
It's just so shocking.
541
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,020
Things like this aren't supposed to happen.
542
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,000
This is what you see in movies.
543
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,940
This is not what you see in your day-to-day life.
544
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,600
But that was not the worst.
545
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:05,060
One night, I was asleep.
546
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:13,000
And it felt like something punched me in my face.
547
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,740
I felt my whole head move back into the pillow.
548
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,680
I woke up.
549
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:19,380
There was a red mark on my face.
550
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,720
I knew I had been hit.
551
00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:22,720
Something hit me in the middle of my sleep.
552
00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:31,420
Why is this happening again?
553
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,620
And my wife was just beside herself, like, I can't believe
554
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,560
that all this is going on.
555
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,800
We decided that we had to reach out to someone.
556
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:41,900
It was, there was just too much.
557
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,440
I needed an explanation.
558
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:46,600
I needed to know, I mean, how do you protect your family
559
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,840
from something that you can't see, from something
560
00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:49,700
that you can't touch?
561
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,680
Tina and Robert both seemed pretty scared by what
562
00:40:58,720 --> 00:40:59,860
they were experiencing.
563
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Like most investigations, we set up our four-camera DVR system.
564
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:08,160
We set those up in locations where the client has told us
565
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:09,960
most of the activity is taking place.
566
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,540
There's an application we use called Ghost Radar.
567
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,440
It can give you voices through it,
568
00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:22,820
which are considered EVPs, electronic voice phenomenon.
569
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,740
Spirits can try to use these things to communicate.
570
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,380
I had no expectations.
571
00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:29,880
I just, in one side of the corner,
572
00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:31,180
I wanted them to find something.
573
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,160
And on the other side, I was like, this is just nonsense.
574
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:36,260
Just, what are they going to find?
575
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:00,620
After being attacked in his sleep,
576
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,060
Robert Johnson called in paranormal investigators
577
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,360
to find out who or what was to blame.
578
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
During the night investigation, we collected
579
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:15,400
a lot of different data.
580
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,300
One was a female voice.
581
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,940
One was the voice of a, it sounded like a young girl.
582
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,840
And then there was a voice of a man.
583
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:23,840
And then there was a voice of a woman.
584
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:25,440
And then there was a voice of a man.
585
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,480
One was the voice of a, it sounded like a young girl
586
00:42:27,580 --> 00:42:28,880
or a young child.
587
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:32,540
And another was a male voice.
588
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,360
One thing we did notice that was kind of strange, we would,
589
00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:41,020
two of us would go into one room to do an investigation.
590
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,020
We started asking some questions.
591
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,520
And then we had another ghost radar device in another room,
592
00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:48,200
which we'd hear a star talking that nobody was in.
593
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:51,200
And this, I mean, it hadn't been talking all night.
594
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,240
And then all of a sudden, it starts to talk.
595
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:54,140
So we'd wait a few minutes.
596
00:42:54,140 --> 00:42:55,740
We'd go in that room.
597
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,880
And it would switch back to the other room.
598
00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:59,980
It was almost like it was playing a game with us.
599
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,120
He was definitely able to confirm that things were really
600
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:11,120
happening, that there was definitely
601
00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:12,280
spirits in the home.
602
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Something was starting to tell me
603
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:23,000
that maybe we're dealing with Robert's friend who
604
00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:23,820
had passed away.
605
00:43:28,060 --> 00:43:29,800
I sat, just sat on the edge of the bed
606
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,960
and just told Sarah I was going to meditate.
607
00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:33,240
And I did.
608
00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:35,340
I just closed my eyes and began to just meditate,
609
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,900
and asking in my head, whoever might be there,
610
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,980
show yourself to me or communicate to me.
611
00:43:39,980 --> 00:43:52,820
And I have this strong vision.
612
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,520
It was like me looking at you.
613
00:43:56,620 --> 00:44:00,120
Taller gentleman, dark hair, well-built, chiseled features.
614
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,480
Jack rushed to tell Robert about his vision.
615
00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:18,280
I said, he was wearing a light blue shirt and dark slacks.
616
00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:19,780
He goes, what did you just say?
617
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,880
I said, he's wearing a light blue shirt, dark slack.
618
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:26,760
He told me, he goes, that's what he was murdered in.
619
00:44:26,860 --> 00:44:29,660
When he was killed, that's what he was wearing.
620
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,660
It was pretty crazy.
621
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,100
And it was just, you know, he was telling me these things.
622
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,360
And I just couldn't believe it.
623
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:37,660
I was like, wow, that sounds like Ronnie.
624
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:44,580
I believe Ronnie was trying to communicate with Robert
625
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,080
by using physical force, because they had always
626
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:49,380
done that in their teens.
627
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Always just hitting each other, fighting together.
628
00:44:57,420 --> 00:45:02,320
And I really think it was Ronnie who had hit him that night.
629
00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:04,460
It was the next morning before Jack
630
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,860
completed his investigation.
631
00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:08,920
I did do a clearing of the house.
632
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,820
And we did ask anything that was negative to leave.
633
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,200
I did tell Ronnie he could stay.
634
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,260
If he was there, he could stay, because he's Robert's friend.
635
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,240
And I knew he wouldn't be there to do any harm to Robert.
636
00:45:27,340 --> 00:45:32,240
I feel OK if Ronnie's there.
637
00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:35,140
I feel OK if he's there.
638
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:37,860
I feel OK if Ronnie's there.
639
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,260
Maybe he's making sure that things don't get too crazy.
640
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:51,940
After Jack left, you felt that heaviness go away in the house.
641
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,340
Didn't feel scary.
642
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,920
You felt totally different in the house.
643
00:45:58,020 --> 00:46:00,520
And that was a good feeling, to have
644
00:46:00,620 --> 00:46:02,560
that heavy feeling go away.
645
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,060
Do I think that Ronnie's still with me?
646
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,900
Yes.
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