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And it was just nothing to explain it, nothing.
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It was just very, very scary.
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You are about to see real people.
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This is not normal.
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Reliving horrifying paranormal encounters for the first time.
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And it would keep coming, creeping up my leg.
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When the unsuspecting send an invitation to evil.
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Never in a million years did I think that it
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would happen in my home.
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I buried this for nearly 30 years.
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Be prepared to be afraid.
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Sick as interviewed?
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After years of dating, Sika Groves and her boyfriend Dave
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were starting their life together
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in Dave's parents' basement.
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We went to visit the antique store
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to pick up something special, something
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that we thought would be our own.
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Everybody else had given us things.
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So we really wanted to get something
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that we thought was unique and sort of said who we were.
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When I first saw the washstand, it just stood out
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because it was a classic, probably about 1870s
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Victorian washstand.
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But it was just really unique and really different.
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And we fell in love with it.
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Little did Sika know that the washstand had brought something
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else along with it into her home, something
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a lot less welcome.
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It wasn't so much there was a change in the atmosphere
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of the home, but it was just strange things
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started happening.
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At first, it was just lights going off and on
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and or cupboard doors opening, those kinds of things
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that you sort of think maybe somebody left the light on
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or left the cupboard door open.
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But then you start to wonder because you're
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the only one home.
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But I didn't say anything at the time
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because I thought maybe they're going to think I was crazy.
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I just remember going into the kitchen
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and there was this huge ripping sound.
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And it just sounded like a huge piece of fabric being torn,
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but really violently torn.
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And there was nobody home.
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I was the only one there.
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I was just like, oh, my God.
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I'm going to die.
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I was petrified and I was just like, oh, my God.
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Oh, my God.
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I looked in the bathroom and I looked in the bedrooms
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and there was just nothing to explain it, nothing.
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It was just very, very scary for me at the time.
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I think that it was probably about two months or so
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after we'd purchased the washstand that we thought
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that perhaps that was sort of the gateway for the spirit
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to come in.
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Why we didn't get rid of it?
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Because I didn't believe it.
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Something could manifest itself in a piece of furniture.
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It wasn't long before the strange activity escalated
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and more people experienced it.
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We were sitting at the table in the kitchen
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and the coffee maker just shifted out
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into the middle of the table and then back against the wall.
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It was a very, very scary experience.
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And then it did it a second time and we all were, you know,
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just sort of jumped up and was like, oh, my God,
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what's going on?
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Like, what's happening to us?
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Several months after moving into their new home,
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Sika and Dave decided to start a family.
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But the joy of their baby son's arrival was short-lived.
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An evil atmosphere seemed to permeate the home
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and Sika and Dave began turning on each other.
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I was exhausted from the whole thing
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and exhausted from just, you know,
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had a newborn baby, new child, and, you know,
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a marriage that was going down the toilet.
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So I said to my husband then,
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I can't deal with this.
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I am done! We are over!
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The marriage over, Sika moved into her own place
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with her young son, but she took the washstand
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and her troubles with her too.
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I took that washstand everywhere with me,
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still not really believing that it was the source
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of the problems.
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There's a conception that spirits can only attach
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to a location, where in fact they can attach themselves
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to a person, a place, or a thing.
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But to them, it's a place.
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It's a place where they can be connected to.
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And so, I think that's what Sika and Dave
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were trying to do.
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They were trying to connect to the spirit world
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and to the place where they were.
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And so, I think that's what Sika and Dave
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were trying to do.
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And so, I think that's what Sika and Dave
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were trying to do.
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They can only attach to a person, a place, or a thing.
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But to them, it's something important,
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something that connects them back to the world
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of the living.
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If it's an angry spirit, it can just start wreaking
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havoc throughout the house.
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This house was when a lot of activity started,
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a lot more than what we had had previously.
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Sika's son, now aged five, started to play
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with an imaginary friend.
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By this time, my son had given him a name.
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I'd go upstairs and he'd be in his room talking
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and I'd be like, who are you talking to?
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And he'd go, oh, it's Lenny, Mom.
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Like, it was nothing.
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And then he'd go, don't you see him?
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He's wearing a white shirt and black pants.
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And I'm like, no, I don't see him.
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So what I did say to him is I'm like, don't talk to him.
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Don't talk to him.
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Just, you know, if he comes and bothers you,
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you come and tell me.
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I had bought my son this teddy bear
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that could tell stories.
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And you put a little cassette tape in
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and it would tell stories.
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And there was a couple of times where the bear
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just started going off, like talking,
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and the tape would start to play.
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It was like the tape would go, it'll go slow,
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and then it would speed up.
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And I thought maybe it's being worn, it's breaking.
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So I just took the batteries out of the bear.
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And it came on.
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Even without the batteries in it, the bear came on.
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And I thought, oh, my God, it's a bear.
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I didn't want anything interfering with my child.
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I mean, I'm a mom.
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And once again, the evil influence of the washstand
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started to cause trouble in Sika's personal life.
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She was a very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
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very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
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very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
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very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, a bit
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too far in the fifth year of her life.
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It started to escalate.
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When I started to date again, any time a new guy
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would come over to the house, things would start to happen.
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What was the reason?
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Because as soon as something would be done again,
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I felt I was bending over backwards
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Seeker groves had tried to escape the paranormal activity that plagued her by moving house,
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but she had unwittingly brought along the very thing that was causing it.
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Her beloved wash stand.
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Anytime a new guy would come over to the house, things would start to happen.
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They would say, something's touching me, something's poking me.
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There was a point where I felt comfortable with the guy that I was seeing staying over.
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The first night that he stayed over, it was maybe four o'clock in the morning, and I could
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hear a little toy cell phone that my son had going off in the hallway.
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And so I got up.
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I got up out of bed to see if my son was up.
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And there wasn't anything there.
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The noise stopped as soon as I opened the bedroom door.
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My son was fast asleep in his bed.
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I headed back to the bedroom, and when I walked into the room, it was dark, but I could see
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that my boyfriend was just lying stiff in the bed and staring at the ceiling, and he
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was shaking.
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And I was like, what's wrong with you?
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What's the matter?
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And he's like, it's sitting on the bed, it's sitting on the bed, it's sitting on the bed,
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it's sitting on the bed.
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He was petrified.
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There's something on the end of the bed.
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He was so scared, he got up and he left.
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Honey, where are you going?
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He just, you know, up and left.
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It was 4.30 in the morning, and he wouldn't stay.
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Where are you going?
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I was mad.
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I mean, I was angry just because of what had happened, right?
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And I was really mad.
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And I was like, why are you doing this?
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Stop doing this.
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You know, you're ruining my life.
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I think that was really the crux of when I felt like I have to do something.
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My boyfriend's mother had suggested that we bring somebody in that could do feng shui.
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You know, she sort of said, maybe you have bad energy flow in the house and there's things
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that they can help you realign and realign the energy.
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And if there's bad things there, they can, you know, make them leave.
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And I'm thinking, okay, it sounds crazy enough that it just might work.
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The feng shui expert immediately zeroed in on the washstand as the object that had brought
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the spirit into Sika's life.
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And she says, you're a magnet.
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You attract them.
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And I was like, what?
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What are you talking about?
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I didn't attract any.
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She says, that's why it's here.
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It might have come with the furniture, but it's here because of you.
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The best way to remove a spirit from a house, when you're dealing with an object, maybe
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an antique that you have purchased somewhere, it would be a good idea to get rid of that
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antique, not to give to someone else that you don't like, but to get rid of the object
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altogether.
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And that way you're getting rid of the attachment to that object, whether you bury it, some
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people want to burn it, but just get rid of it altogether.
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It's just a better way to do it.
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What are we going to read today?
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What are you going to read to me?
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Only then did things get back to normal.
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It just says, the voice is sticking.
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My son wasn't seeing him anymore and things just weren't happening.
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For me mentally, it made a big difference.
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Not every spirit can be gotten rid of so easily.
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In some cases, a paranormal entity can spread like an infection from one person to another,
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causing terror and chaos in its path.
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I've always had an interest in the paranormal, but I never ever thought that I'd ever experience
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one.
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It all started when Susan Hayes was having coffee at her friend's house.
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There she experienced something chilling.
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I could sense this entity and it would start out like a coldness in the bottom of my foot,
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like actually like it was entering my body and it would keep coming, creeping up my leg
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and I would just close my eyes and recite the Lord's Prayer over and over again, Our
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Father, our heaven, and I kept redoing it and it would just kind of go away again.
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Susan's friend told her she too had begun to experience strange things and they all
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started when she let a mutual friend rent a room in her house.
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There was a girl that they let stay for a few weeks.
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She was in between residences and she had went in there one night and heard her chanting.
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rotor.
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while at her friend's house.
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But that wasn't the only weird thing going on there.
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There was a girl that they let stay for a few weeks.
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She was in between residences.
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And she had went in there one night and heard her chanting.
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There's water for our children.
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She peeked in the room, and she was doing some type
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of a ritual on the floor.
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Then she just suddenly moved out about a few weeks later.
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When you're dealing with ceremony rituals,
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depending on the intention of that ceremony,
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if your intention is to be ill-willed
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or to just open the door to anything,
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you can invite anything into the house, even evil spirits,
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and most likely the people you don't want
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to come into that room.
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Susan and her friend decided to cleanse the house
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of whatever entity the boarder had ushered in.
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The spirit of the Lord spoke to me.
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We just kind of went online to try to find out
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what we should do, so we just kind of tried to handle it
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ourselves initially, but, you know,
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it was honestly a big mistake.
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So as soon as we started reading the Bible and smudging,
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the little wooden keys just slid right across the front of us.
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-♪♪
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-♪♪
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-♪♪
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Our Father who art in heaven,
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hallowed be thy name.
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Thy kingdom come.
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Needless to say, we kind of screamed and ran out the door.
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It terrified us quite a bit.
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I knew that she had summoned something into their home,
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and they had only tried to help her, so I was very upset.
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-♪♪
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About two weeks after,
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my friend's family just decided to move.
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They just had had enough,
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and they decided not to try to fight it.
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-♪♪
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I was just in my room, just relaxed,
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relaxing, watching TV,
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and all of a sudden I felt that cold,
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horrible, evil sensation again
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that I felt over at my friend's house.
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Our Father who art in heaven,
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hallowed be thy name.
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-♪♪
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And I immediately knew it was there.
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I just knew, and I was terrified.
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-♪♪
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It seemed that the entity from her friend's house
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had now attached itself to Susan.
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-♪♪
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Soon the paranormal activity got worse.
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-♪♪
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There would be scratching in the walls.
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You could hear, um, another time,
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I could hear crashing up in the attic.
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So it would just, it would just do anything it could
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just to disturb you in the middle of the night.
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-♪♪
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It was antagonizing me so badly that I honestly thought
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I was going to lose my mind.
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I had just bought the house, so I was not going to move out.
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So I just, you know, I was determined to get rid
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of this thing.
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-♪♪
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Stop it!
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-♪♪
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Susan knew she had to call in an expert.
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She contacted paranormal investigator
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Michelle DeRoche for help.
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When Sue sent me an email, I immediately felt drawn to her.
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Right off the bat, I could feel the desperation in it.
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-♪♪
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When I reached out to Michelle, you know,
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I just gave her a vague message.
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I think we have a ghost problem.
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Hi!
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Hi!
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Michelle brought along a friend who was a psychic
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to help with the investigation.
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This is Tyler.
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Hi, thank you.
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Tyler, he, uh, he, he walked into my house
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and my cat went right to him, which was unusual in itself
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because my cat always hid from company.
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Meow!
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Meow!
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The cat starts meowing at him, like, meow, meow.
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And he starts answering it.
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He's like, oh, thank you, thank you.
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And I'm like looking like, what?
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Purring.
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He says, oh, I can communicate with animals.
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Meow.
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And then the cat kept beckoning Tyler to follow.
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Meow!
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Meow!
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And, you know, you're just like, what?
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And, uh, the cat showed him where the same woman
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who had done the ritual at the other house
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had hidden things in my home as well.
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While visiting Susan's house, her friend's lodger
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had put an evil hex on Susan, too.
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I found, uh, small pieces of mirror throughout the house,
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which I guess I found afterwards can act as a portal or a, you
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know, an entry place into my home.
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We had found jars of urine hidden up in the rafters
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as well as a few other things.
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We had found jars of urine hidden up in the rafters
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as well.
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From what I gather, that was a way
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that she could kind of hold claim to my home.
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A lot of that has to do more with the occult, you know,
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working around the black arts.
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They will leave things like that on the premises,
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and they will take something out of the home.
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It's like an exchange almost.
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Terrified of what malevolent entities the hidden objects
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were bringing into her home, Susan
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decided to get it cleansed.
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He basically did a smudging ceremony, you know,
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where he would come in with just a big sage smudge stick.
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Michelle and the psychic were unable to completely remove
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the spirit in one session, so they gave Susan instructions
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on how to keep it at bay until they could
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return to remove it for good.
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Michelle instructed me to just to be very diligent,
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try to smudge daily.
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She gave me some exercises to do, like salt baths,
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stuff like that, so that it personally couldn't infest me,
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because it certainly did dry all the time.
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And we taught her basically how to kind of keep
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her environment calm.
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Calm?
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Michelle had calmed the activity in Susan's house,
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but in doing so, she had provoked a spirit that was not
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yet finished with her or her family.
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Mom!
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Paranormal investigator Michelle DeRoche
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had taken the first steps toward ridding Susan Hayes'
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home of sinister forces.
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But before she could return to finish the job,
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she had no idea the evil would infect a new victim much closer
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to home.
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when she started doing the investigations.
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I didn't believe in much of anything
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until things started happening to me.
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♪♪♪
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Mom!
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I could hear her calling my name.
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I can't see!
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I went over to her room, and I said,
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what's wrong?
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She goes, I can't see.
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I'm like, what do you mean you can't see?
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She goes, I can't see.
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Mom, come here! I can't see!
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What's going on?
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00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,700
I can't see, Mom.
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Nothing?
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I can't see anything.
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♪♪♪
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Like, I couldn't make out shapes.
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I couldn't make out anything
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other than the fact that I could tell,
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you know, the sun was out.
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I could tell that it was a little bit lighter
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of a darkness than, you know, complete pitch black.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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♪♪♪
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It really isn't uncommon for a medium
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who has cast out an evil spirit
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to have that evil spirit come back in some way or form
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and try to get revenge,
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00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,400
because that spirit will not be happy
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that it has been forced to move on.
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♪♪♪
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Brought her in, and he's like, her eyes look healthy.
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I don't even know what to say,
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but let's get all the tests done,
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and let's see what's going on.
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They took pictures of the inside of her eyes.
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Everything was healthy.
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♪♪♪
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We even had her see a psychologist.
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So we explored everything,
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mental, physical.
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Nobody had any answers for us.
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Nobody had any answers for us.
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♪♪♪
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Um, I was really worried,
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and I didn't think it would come back.
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I couldn't go to school.
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I missed my whole first semester.
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♪♪♪
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It's your job to protect them.
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It's your job to make sure bad things don't happen to them.
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It was terrible.
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Just terrible time in that respect.
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♪♪♪
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Unable to find a medical cause,
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Michelle's doctor had another theory.
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He said, I'm just going to throw this out there.
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Could you maybe have worked on something recently
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that might have caused this?
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♪♪♪
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It never occurred to me.
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It never occurred to me.
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I had been working professionally
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with the paranormal probably for the last,
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I would say, 12 years.
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Never in a million years did I think
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that it would happen in my home.
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♪♪♪
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Michelle quickly organized a seance at her home
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to contact whatever had taken away her daughter's sight.
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♪♪♪
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It was the same beam.
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We were set to go back,
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and we were going to finish the job.
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♪♪♪
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And I basically, I said, did you do this?
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Did you do this?
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Did you take my daughter's sight?
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♪♪♪
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All it said was, stay away.
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I said, fix this, and I'll stay away.
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I won't go back.
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If you leave her alone, I'll leave you alone.
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Michelle had offered a deal.
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If the spirit returned her daughter's sight,
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she would not return to Susan's house
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to cleanse it once and for all.
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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This is dead.
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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I gave my eyes a good rub, and it was like,
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it was never a problem in the first place.
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It was the weirdest, strangest thing.
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I just came back.
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♪♪♪
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I was like, Mom, my eyes, they're working.
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00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:42,600
I can see.
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00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,000
Mom, I can see!
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00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,980
She goes, hey, I can see.
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I'm like, wow.
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Mom!
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♪♪♪
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Mom, are you serious?
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I can see!
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Mom, that's amazing.
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And I stayed true to my word.
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I never returned.
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Never returned.
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♪♪♪
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And Susan Hayes, using the techniques
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Michelle taught her,
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has kept the evil at bay ever since.
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♪♪♪
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♪♪♪
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00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:30,760
Usually, people don't willingly invite evil entities
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into their homes.
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00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:35,900
But when Tammy Deans became obsessed with the spirit world,
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she accidentally opened the door to dark forces.
534
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535
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536
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537
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I was living in Sault Ste. Marie,
538
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and it was downtown.
539
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I was living with my daughter,
540
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and I had a lot of overnight guests during this time.
541
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,880
Tammy and her friends began experimenting
542
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with a spirit board.
543
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I don't even remember where we got it from,
544
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:41,480
but we started out with just a regular board that you can buy.
545
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546
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I was always interested in that kind of thing,
547
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,500
and it intrigued me.
548
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,000
I wanted to know if it worked.
549
00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:00,000
I wanted to know if it was a good thing.
550
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:02,000
I wanted to know if it was a bad thing.
551
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:04,560
There were four of us that played on a regular basis.
552
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But I didn't realize how serious it could become.
553
00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:12,500
We thought it was just a game.
554
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:19,000
It started out with just dead grandparents,
555
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things like that.
556
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000
I was always interested in that kind of thing.
557
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,020
I was always interested in the spirit world.
558
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,020
I was always interested in the spirit world.
559
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,020
I was always interested in the spirit world.
560
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,040
We wanted more out of it, so we started asking for things
561
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like Elvis and graduated from there to asking for the devil.
562
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,040
We, if it was dead, we asked for it.
563
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Their curiosity quickly turned into an obsession.
564
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:51,060
It was giving us yes and no answers to our questions,
565
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and we were just like,
566
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,080
It was giving us yes and no answers to our questions,
567
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:58,080
and from there, it just kept telling us a story.
568
00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:03,080
And as we got into it more, we started taking notes
569
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so that we could keep track of what was being told.
570
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,080
Soon, it wasn't just messages the group
571
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were getting from the board.
572
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Who are you?
573
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We asked for, you know, the certain spirit to come in.
574
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What do you want from us?
575
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You would see the candles going out...
576
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577
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...or making weird smoke patterns, I guess.
578
00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:36,140
I was scared, yes.
579
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That was when I didn't understand what was going on.
580
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Everything seemed to just be different in the air,
581
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and it's not so much that you could see it.
582
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It was the fact that you could feel where it was.
583
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It wasn't just a single, like,
584
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like, you know, you know,
585
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it was a whole bunch of different things.
586
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So we asked for, you know,
587
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,120
the certain spirit to come in.
588
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Who are you?
589
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It's not so much that you could see it.
590
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,660
It was the fact that you could feel where it was.
591
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592
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593
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594
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595
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596
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We would hear a lot of knocking noises.
597
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We would hear growls continuously.
598
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599
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600
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I just could feel my skin crawl
601
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and my hair stand on the back of my neck.
602
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603
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604
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The shadow figures were there pretty much nightly.
605
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606
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They would come and go,
607
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at least one, sometimes two or three,
608
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and they were huge.
609
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610
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It wasn't necessarily a human form.
611
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We would all be sitting at the table
612
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and there's nobody else in the apartment with us
613
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except the baby in the crib waiting in the other room.
614
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But this figure would move where we knew we weren't moving,
615
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so that we knew that we weren't making it.
616
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♪♪♪
617
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At first, it was non-belief
618
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that we were seeing the shadow figures.
619
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It really, everybody was kind of looking at it
620
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and just kind of looking at each other,
621
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looking for an explanation.
622
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The excitement was really high,
623
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but it was also very fearful.
624
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625
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-♪♪♪
626
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627
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628
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In the wrong hands, the spirit board can bring up
629
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anything that you don't want.
630
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When you have a negative entity that comes through
631
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and you have an open invitation to that negative entity,
632
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that's who's going to come through
633
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and not always a loved one.
634
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635
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All this paranormal activity was taking its toll on Tammy.
636
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Once we were done playing the spirit board,
637
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I had to go back to my regular life for the next few hours
638
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and it was very hard to ignore the fact that there was
639
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all this activity going on in the home that I was living in.
640
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♪♪♪
641
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642
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But my obsession took over.
643
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We weren't into drugs or alcohol.
644
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It was just a very, very, very, very, very, very,
645
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very, very, very, very, very, very, very frequent activity.
646
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I mean, we weren't into drugs or alcohol.
647
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It was, this was our obsession.
648
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This was our addiction.
649
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♪♪♪
650
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There was one particular night and it's still unbelievable.
651
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My friend that was playing with us,
652
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she was sleeping on the floor.
653
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We were trying to wake her up and she started literally talking in what I believe to be
654
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:04,900
tongues.
655
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At least 10, maybe even 15 minutes it took for her to finally come around.
656
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:22,620
And when she woke up, her eyes were bloodshot and she didn't remember anything about the
657
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dream or us trying to wake her up.
658
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:35,460
I really thought that she may have been possessed at some point.
659
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It definitely scared all of us.
660
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Once you have opened that door with the spirit board, there can be a lot of horrible consequences.
661
00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:58,380
The spirits can become dangerous and there are even many cases of possession as a result.
662
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:04,980
Using a spirit board is just inviting all kinds of trouble you do not need.
663
00:42:04,980 --> 00:42:09,380
The possession didn't stop Tammy and her friends from using the spirit board.
664
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But nothing could prepare them for what would happen next.
665
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:19,100
We were looking in the window, or out the window, and you could see them outside.
666
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:37,580
Two different spirits were dueling, I guess you could say.
667
00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:41,500
It's still unbelievable when I talk about it.
668
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:42,500
It was very frightening.
669
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:43,540
We couldn't believe it.
670
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:48,460
We couldn't believe it.
671
00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:52,420
It was one thing to see them in the apartment, but to know that they can go outside actually
672
00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:58,340
scared me even more.
673
00:42:58,340 --> 00:43:07,380
Afraid of the demons they had unleashed, Tammy realized they had gone too far.
674
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Demons turned out to be the least of Tammy's problems when evil forces started to take
675
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over the thing most precious to her.
676
00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:26,380
Billy acting strangely.
677
00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:32,100
Billy?
678
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:36,580
I went to go into her crib to lift her up and her eyes scared the living daylights out
679
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:37,580
of me.
680
00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,580
Everything okay?
681
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:51,180
Everything okay?
682
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:54,180
Knowing that as a mother I'm supposed to be picking her up and taking care of her, but
683
00:43:54,180 --> 00:44:00,660
I'm so afraid by the look on her face and how she was staring at me with black eyes.
684
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:12,540
It was very scary to know that something else could control me as a mother where I
685
00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:17,380
didn't feel like I could protect her.
686
00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:22,860
Knowing that we were playing with such evil things, I was very worried that something
687
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:31,060
would happen to her.
688
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:35,020
I do believe that we released something, but the story needs to be told because there's
689
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:40,760
other people out there that are just as young and innocent and maybe stupid if you want
690
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:51,300
to call it as we were.
691
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:56,460
I'm hoping that through me they can learn the lesson.
692
00:44:56,460 --> 00:45:01,220
The next morning Tammy moved out and cut all ties with the group.
693
00:45:01,220 --> 00:45:07,220
Though we all live in the same city, none of us talk anymore.
694
00:45:07,220 --> 00:45:12,220
We don't want to have anything to do with each other anymore.
695
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:19,780
She vowed never to touch a spirit board again and the paranormal activity stopped.
696
00:45:19,780 --> 00:45:22,980
If you're going to do it, have great respect.
697
00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:23,620
Don't play with it.
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