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There was just nothing
to explain it, nothing.
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It was just very,
very scary.
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Narrator: You are about
to see real people--
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This is
not normal.
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Reliving horrifying paranormal
encounters for the first time.
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We just sat there
with our jaws dropped.
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We couldn't believe
what we were seeing.
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(screaming)
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When spirits are
intent on doing evil--
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The basement is super
old and creepy.
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I buried this for
nearly 30 years.
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Be prepared
to be afraid.
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♪
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(typing)
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Story number 14
featuring Mandi, take 1.
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♪
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My name
is Mandi Lynn
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and I am co-owner
of Liberty Tattoo
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in Libertyville,
here in Antioch.
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We took over the
building in May of 2007.
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!When we first saw the space, you
!know, we'd realized the capstone
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on the outside
said it was built in 1904.
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There's a lot of
history in the building.
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When Mandi and
Eric took over the space
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from a previous business,
they didn't know renovations
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would stir up
something terrifying.
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We would close at
the end of the night.
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You know, we'd get
in the next day
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and there's paintbrushes
!missing or rollers missing or--
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♪
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The art that we bought
came with glass in them,
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so we decided to put
them behind the counters umm,
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and bolted them to the wall with
the wiring to the frame like,
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umm, secured
them to the wall.
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(glass smashing) The first plate glass picture
had fallen off the wall
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and was down
on the ground
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and the glass
was busted everywhere.
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♪
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Uhh, we just chalked it up
as not being hung properly.
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The next day when the
second one was down umm,
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we knew that something
else was going on.
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(glass smashing)
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And then it was the last
picture that had glass in it,
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had come down
and was broken.
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We put it up right,
there's no reason why
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it should've
just fallen off the wall.
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♪
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If they hoped that would be
the end of the strangeness,
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they were wrong.
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!When we opened for business and
!the first thing that we noticed
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is that there were
large male bear footprints
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on top of our display cases
that are three and a half feet
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off of the ground.
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♪
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I was trying
to rack my brain
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who would've been
walking bare foot on the floor,
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which would've been
more reasonable than
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on top
of the counter.
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Narrator: Mandi and Eric's
employees were also effected.
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The boy employees
just were terrified
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to come
into the basement.
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♪
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(creaking) We have stuff supplies down
here that I'd have to send them
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downstairs in the basement to
get and they would fight over,
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"no you go, no you go, I'm
not going into the basement."
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♪
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The basement is
super old and creepy.
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There's a certain area
!where the, uhh, concrete is dirt
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and it was either
dug up or never filled in.
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And we found
that to be very unusual
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and wondered
what's buried there.
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The first time I saw
the whole in the floor,
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!I just was trying to figure out
why you would pour concrete
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!everywhere else in this basement
except for that one space
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and what was particularly
special about one spot?
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♪
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Mandi and Eric discovered that
they weren't the first people
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to encounter paranormal
activity on the property.
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Actually, one of my neighbour's
used to work in this space.
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She came in and we
had metal ladders leaned up
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against the front door
to the basement.
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♪
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And she said, "You need
to be careful because
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there's plate glass
in that door."
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I said, "No, it's just
wood, it's just paint."
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And she said, "No, we painted
over the glass because Lloyd
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used to stare through the
window, standing on the stairs
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and peer
through that window."
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And that was directly
behind the counter
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where all the
employees sat.
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♪
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So, she said, "We just
painted the windows
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because it was freaking
us out looking over there
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and seeing him
standing there."
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Made me a little creeped
out knowing that he was here.
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♪
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To me it was very obvious
that he likes women quite a bit.
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(tattoo pen buzzing)
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(ghostly breathing)
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Even with myself, he would
stand behind me and breathe.
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(tattoo pen buzzing)
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(ghostly breathing)
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Even with me
sitting in my chair,
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you could just feel
him behind me.
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(ghostly breathing
continues)
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(slow heartbeat)
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Oh but there were multiple
times where customers,
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female customers would be across
the room looking through flash,
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the tattoo flash racks and
there's no one behind them
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and you could
watch them go--
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You know, and I'd say,
"Are you okay?"
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And they're like,
"Was there someone
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just standing
behind me?"
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And I'm like, "No."
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The racks would
just open one leaf
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at a time,
very, very slowly.
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All by themselves until a
particular sheet of flash
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was shown, which had a
bunch of angels on them.
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Usually it was a female client
would turn around in a panic
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and look at us and we'd
smile and wave and nod
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and, "Yeah,
I see it too."
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♪
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But after awhile it
got to be a little bit much,
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so we put
in cameras.
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♪
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One day our employees
called us and said,
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"What the hell
happened here last night?"
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And he said, "There's a sign
ripped off the wall,
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one of the pictures is down
off the wall and the plant--"
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which is a very large plant,
in a very large planter
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was tipped
completely over.
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♪
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Umm, and my husband and
I reviewed the security tapes.
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At about 9:30 in the
morning all at the same time,
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the sign to the handicap
bathroom fell off the wall,
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ripping off the drywall sheeting
with it, fell off the wall.
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The picture
dropped off the wall
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and the plant and
planter just tipped over.
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There was
no one in the studio
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like our studio
was not even open yet.
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The alarm
was still set.
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A spirit may destroy somebody's
belongings or hide them.
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Mostly it's to
get their attention,
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to let them know they're there
or that they want something
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and you're not
paying attention to them,
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they're gonna get your
attention one way or another.
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♪
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Narrator: Soon Mandi
would start seeing ghosts.
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♪
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There is a little girl in
here, a little girl spirit.
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The first couple times I saw
her, she was just very playful.
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She would hide
between the couches.
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She would play
all over the studio.
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♪
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I-I always have been a
believer in paranormal.
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I've experienced too many
things, seen too many things,
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felt too many things for me to
say nothing else is going on.
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Narrator: But the little girl
wasn't the only spirit
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and the others weren't
harmless like her.
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♪
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One day
I was taking a nap.
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♪
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(screaming)
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Oh my god.
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♪
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♪
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Mandi Lynn's new
tattoo parlour was full
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of unexplained activity,
strange presences, ghosts
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and falling objects.
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But no one had been
physically attacked--
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Yet.
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(screaming) And as I was sleeping
I could feel I was being pulled
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by my feet
down across the couch.
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Then when
I opened my eyes
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I realized that there
was no one there.
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There was just no one there but
I could feel myself being pulled
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down the couch and
that's when I freaked out.
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And my husband came flying
into the room and he's like,
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"What the
hell is wrong?"
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And I'm like, "That thing
just drug me down the couch."
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And he's like,
"Are you okay?"
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and I'm like, "Yes"
"Are you hurt?"
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"No but a little freaked out,
the thing can actually move me."
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♪
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The attack prompts
Mandi and Eric to bring
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in paranormal investigator,
Bob Jenson.
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♪
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So, we came in here looking to
see if we had any high EMF's.
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We also used the audio
recorders, digital recorders
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to see umm,
what kind of audio
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we would be able
to pick up down here.
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♪
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Uhh, with different pictures
that we took most of them
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came up on the full
colour spectrum camera
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that we had anomalies
that would pop up.
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We had a couple that
showed up near a floodlight,
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there was actually
a figure standing there.
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The pictures
themselves were captured
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at the far end
of the basement.
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Seeing the sheer size of
Lloyd was very unnerving to--
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I very much get the feeling
that he's a sexual predator.
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And then to see him
in that form was--
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Made me very,
very uncomfortable.
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It definitely has a uhh,
male physique to it
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and there was a
series of photographs.
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It looks like he's standing
and then the next picture
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looks like he's going
into a crouching position.
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Uhh, a couple more photos,
it looks like he was sitting
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on umm, almost like
a crate door box.
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(demonic laughter)
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It's creepy as hell.I mean, this was like uhh, more
primal form just a male shape
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but very large,
very powerful shape.
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Narrator: There was also audio
!evidence of paranormal activity.
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On the audio recording,
one was a little girls voice.
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Umm, the little girls voice
was warning us she said,
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"Be careful,
he's coming."
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You know, be careful he's
coming, she kept saying,
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"Be careful."
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Bob decided to research
the history of the building
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in an attempt to find some
background on the entities.
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There were claims that
there might've been uhh,
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different crimes
that were committed
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at this
particular property.
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But the crimes against
women that might be tied in
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with this particular location
that definitely goes back to the
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19 teens, umm maybe up
until the 1930's or 1940's.
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For sure finding out
the history and that umm,
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there was possible rape
and killing down here
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made a lot of sense cause
there's one particular spot
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in the basement that is very
hard for women to be near
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without feeling
very uncomfortable. And when you ask
every single one of them kinda,
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"What are you feeling?" they
feel kinda victimized sexually.
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(door creaks)
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♪
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(sinister laughter)
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With this
building lie fieldstone,
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there's also
limestone and quartz.
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And limestone, quartz
have been reported
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to hold on to
residual hauntings.
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This is definitely a
good catalyst for holding on to
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and retaining a lot of
information that's happened
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over numerous,
numerous decades.
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With minerals such as Quartz,
limestone things like that,
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not sure if it's
an attraction for spirits
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but they can use
the energies from those things,
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can also trap
energy as well.
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So, if a foundation is built
upon these things it's--
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it could fuel more
paranormal activity.
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♪
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Narrator: Terrified of
what Lloyd might do next,
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Mandi decided
to take action.
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♪
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!After the investigation we asked
a couple of our friends
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who are spiritual healers
and umm, work with energy
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to come into the space
and help us try and clear out
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the energy
that was here.
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♪
258
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We had a couple people
come in that used sage sticks
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and smudge sticks and
just asked the entities
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if there was something
that they needed
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or if there was some
help that we could give
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them to move
to another place.
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♪
264
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(indistinct
deep muttering)
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♪
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(whispering)
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The cleansing worked.
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I don't think the little girl
was here any longer at all.
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I think Lloyd hung
out a little longer.
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It took him a little
longer to move on.
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I find it very important that
we had the space cleansed
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and the spirits cleared
because I don't know if
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I would've been
comfortable staying
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or any of the other employee's
would've been comfortable
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staying much longer.
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♪
277
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They will never
know what evil acts
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Lloyd committed
in his earthly life.
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♪
280
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But not all spirits
are like that--
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some can turn evil
if they think the living
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are encroaching
on their territory.
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♪
284
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(typing)
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Story number 18
featuring Tammy, take 1.
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♪
287
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We bought the
house in 2003.
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♪
289
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Here we are.
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00:14:34,554 --> 00:14:37,225
The feeling we
got when we went in,
291
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it was just
a positive feeling.
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In the beginning,
we just kinda knew that,
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that was
the place to be.
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00:14:46,401 --> 00:14:47,610
All right,
let's get to work.
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It was a small
community, we knew umm,
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we were going to try
and have a child.
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!Tammy's positive feelings about
the house did not last long.
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(thunder rumbling)
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Probably about a
week after we moved in
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and my husband was alone in
the house for the first time--
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♪
302
00:15:17,474 --> 00:15:18,140
(rustling)
303
00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:22,602
He said that he heard
a banging on the wall
304
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coming closer
and closer.
305
00:15:24,688 --> 00:15:25,648
Hello?
306
00:15:25,648 --> 00:15:35,658
♪
307
00:15:37,617 --> 00:15:46,961
♪
308
00:15:46,961 --> 00:15:49,004
Narrator: Tammy Northcutt
and her husband Jerry
309
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had recently moved
into a new home.
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♪
311
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(banging)
312
00:15:53,676 --> 00:15:58,390
Within the first week they
were hearing strange noises.
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♪
314
00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:04,644
Tammy: He said that he heard
a banging on the wall
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coming closer.
316
00:16:06,439 --> 00:16:07,315
♪
317
00:16:07,315 --> 00:16:09,192
There was
nothing there.
318
00:16:09,649 --> 00:16:13,280
Narrator: Next it was Tammy's
turn to start hearing things.
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00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,659
In the middle of the night, umm,
I got up cause I heard arguing
320
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and I didn't know
where it was coming from.
321
00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:33,048
(indistinct yelling)
322
00:16:33,048 --> 00:16:37,677
But we've got a vent that's
in our living room umm,
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a heater vent.
324
00:16:38,555 --> 00:16:43,683
And umm, you could tell that
it was coming up from there.
325
00:16:43,683 --> 00:16:48,440
(arguing)
326
00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:48,731
(creaking)
327
00:16:48,731 --> 00:16:52,692
!We would go down to the basement
to find out what was going on.
328
00:16:52,692 --> 00:16:55,695
(arguing continues)
329
00:16:55,695 --> 00:16:57,697
We could
never see anything.
330
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It was just, constantly
just there, you know,
331
00:17:01,578 --> 00:17:02,702
but there
was nothing--
332
00:17:02,702 --> 00:17:04,788
There was nothing,
you couldn't see anything
333
00:17:04,788 --> 00:17:06,706
but you
could hear it.
334
00:17:06,706 --> 00:17:10,545
♪
335
00:17:10,545 --> 00:17:18,637
!When we umm, were in the bedroom
umm, we would hear violin music
336
00:17:18,637 --> 00:17:22,722
whenever the umm,
heater would kick on.
337
00:17:22,722 --> 00:17:27,687
(violin plays)
338
00:17:27,687 --> 00:17:31,857
It was beautiful
classical music but umm,
339
00:17:31,857 --> 00:17:34,860
we just never knew
where it was coming from.
340
00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:36,736
(violin plays)
341
00:17:36,736 --> 00:17:41,909
At first we were really afraid
of you know, what is going on?
342
00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:46,746
Cause we didn't know what was
going on, what was happening.
343
00:17:46,746 --> 00:17:48,832
The objective of spirits
making themselves known
344
00:17:48,832 --> 00:17:50,000
could be
a number of things,
345
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,003
could be a they have a
message they wanna pass on,
346
00:17:53,003 --> 00:17:55,215
others don't know they're
passed on so they're trying
347
00:17:55,215 --> 00:17:59,759
to interact or they're trying to
be a part of the living world.
348
00:17:59,927 --> 00:18:03,973
Unsure of where to turn, the
couple suffered in silence--
349
00:18:03,973 --> 00:18:07,519
Until help came from
an unlikely source.
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00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,688
♪
351
00:18:09,688 --> 00:18:12,772
There was a shop umm,
downtown Jamesville.
352
00:18:12,772 --> 00:18:17,279
W-We met umm, the couple,
we were talking about the
353
00:18:17,279 --> 00:18:22,659
house and they overheard
us talking and they said,
354
00:18:22,659 --> 00:18:23,784
"We can help."
355
00:18:24,118 --> 00:18:26,329
(sage burning)
356
00:18:26,329 --> 00:18:29,666
They said that they
could come bless the house.
357
00:18:29,666 --> 00:18:36,922
(sage burning)
358
00:18:36,922 --> 00:18:42,429
They blessed the house and
the things stopped for awhile.
359
00:18:42,429 --> 00:18:44,306
(birds chirping)
360
00:18:44,306 --> 00:18:47,475
Narrator: The house seemed
finally to be at peace.
361
00:18:47,475 --> 00:18:50,810
♪
362
00:18:50,810 --> 00:18:56,276
!18 months later, Tammy and Jerry
had their first child, Connor.
363
00:18:56,276 --> 00:19:01,573
As soon as my son was
born it started up again.
364
00:19:01,573 --> 00:19:02,948
(creaking)
365
00:19:02,948 --> 00:19:04,158
The knocking.
366
00:19:05,285 --> 00:19:07,620
(cupboards slamming)
367
00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:10,830
(creaking)
368
00:19:10,830 --> 00:19:13,293
The cabinet doors
in the kitchen umm,
369
00:19:13,293 --> 00:19:18,715
you could hear
open and close and umm--
370
00:19:18,715 --> 00:19:23,303
Well, the basement door
started opening and closing.
371
00:19:23,303 --> 00:19:27,056
My son's door was
opening and closing.
372
00:19:27,056 --> 00:19:29,016
It started
to kick up again.
373
00:19:29,016 --> 00:19:31,852
The mysterious events in the
house continued until after
374
00:19:31,852 --> 00:19:35,440
Connor's second
birthday then they became
375
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,857
more and
more sinister.
376
00:19:37,857 --> 00:19:40,236
♪
377
00:19:40,236 --> 00:19:43,947
Connor started seeing
something on his bed
378
00:19:43,947 --> 00:19:47,202
that he referred
to as Mr. Raider.
379
00:19:47,202 --> 00:19:49,746
(Connor crying)
380
00:19:49,746 --> 00:19:56,378
He would tell me that, "I need
to get Mr. Raider off the bed."
381
00:19:56,378 --> 00:19:57,044
(Connor crying)
382
00:19:57,044 --> 00:19:59,879
I would look
I could not see anything.
383
00:19:59,879 --> 00:20:01,424
♪
384
00:20:01,424 --> 00:20:03,843
But I knew he
wasn't making it up.
385
00:20:03,843 --> 00:20:08,681
You could just tell
how just scared he was.
386
00:20:09,432 --> 00:20:13,686
!Soon Connor began to experience
another unwelcomed guest.
387
00:20:13,686 --> 00:20:16,606
♪
388
00:20:16,606 --> 00:20:17,898
(Connor whining)
389
00:20:17,898 --> 00:20:22,111
An old woman would appear
and shake his bed at two a.m.
390
00:20:22,111 --> 00:20:22,862
♪
391
00:20:22,862 --> 00:20:25,615
That's when he would
come running to our room
392
00:20:25,615 --> 00:20:27,784
about two a.m.
393
00:20:27,784 --> 00:20:28,326
(Connor screaming)
394
00:20:28,326 --> 00:20:32,288
It got to the point
where he just refused
395
00:20:32,288 --> 00:20:34,290
to go
into the room.
396
00:20:34,290 --> 00:20:35,915
(crying)
397
00:20:35,915 --> 00:20:38,294
Not being able to
do anything about it
398
00:20:38,294 --> 00:20:41,297
cause I could not
see what he was seeing.
399
00:20:41,297 --> 00:20:45,008
Umm, I could only listen
and I could only comfort
400
00:20:45,008 --> 00:20:47,595
but I couldn't
fix it for him.
401
00:20:47,595 --> 00:20:51,014
So that was really
upsetting for me.
402
00:20:51,891 --> 00:20:53,768
Spirits can be drawn
to young children.
403
00:20:53,768 --> 00:20:56,354
Young children don't have
the same blocks as adults,
404
00:20:56,354 --> 00:20:58,398
they're more creative,
they're more open
405
00:20:58,398 --> 00:20:59,649
to what's
going on around them.
406
00:20:59,649 --> 00:21:03,068
They don't have so many
hang-ups and so many blocks.
407
00:21:03,068 --> 00:21:05,945
So, it's easier for a spirit to
communicate with a child
408
00:21:05,945 --> 00:21:10,743
cause a child will just take it
at face value and interact.
409
00:21:10,743 --> 00:21:15,915
My husbands mother had passed
away before Connor was born
410
00:21:15,915 --> 00:21:20,712
but we do have a picture
of her and he kept on looking
411
00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:25,300
at her picture and he
asked me to tell her to stop
412
00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:28,761
waking him up in
the middle of the night.
413
00:21:28,761 --> 00:21:33,391
♪
414
00:21:33,391 --> 00:21:33,974
(creaking)
415
00:21:33,974 --> 00:21:36,769
Narrator: However, Tammy
was powerless when events
416
00:21:36,769 --> 00:21:38,978
took a
worrying new turn.
417
00:21:38,978 --> 00:21:41,981
♪
418
00:21:41,981 --> 00:21:42,567
(door slams)
419
00:21:42,567 --> 00:21:46,986
I heard the door close
and Connor was in the room.
420
00:21:46,986 --> 00:21:48,030
Conner?
421
00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:49,407
And--
422
00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:52,202
I was frantic.
423
00:21:52,202 --> 00:21:53,578
Connor!
424
00:21:53,578 --> 00:21:54,496
Hey!
425
00:21:54,496 --> 00:21:56,163
(banging)
426
00:21:56,163 --> 00:21:59,999
I didn't know what to do,
I couldn't get the door open
427
00:21:59,999 --> 00:22:00,585
and I just--
428
00:22:00,585 --> 00:22:03,546
My son was in there
and I had to get to him
429
00:22:03,546 --> 00:22:07,006
and I was actually gonna
call the fire department
430
00:22:07,006 --> 00:22:09,594
to have them come
remove the door.
431
00:22:09,594 --> 00:22:12,639
I was--
I was so scared.
432
00:22:13,012 --> 00:22:19,812
And the door clicked and I
reached and I turned the knob
433
00:22:19,812 --> 00:22:24,023
and it opened and I
was able to get him out.
434
00:22:24,023 --> 00:22:26,025
♪
435
00:22:26,025 --> 00:22:28,530
After that umm--
436
00:22:28,530 --> 00:22:34,033
We took the handle off the door
so it could no longer latch.
437
00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:36,913
Frustrated and unable to
explain the strange events
438
00:22:36,913 --> 00:22:40,039
in their home, Tammy
and her husband reached
439
00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:42,835
out for help
a second time.
440
00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:47,257
I've been investigating
since the 90's about 1997.
441
00:22:47,257 --> 00:22:49,342
♪
442
00:22:49,342 --> 00:22:52,303
They were scared,
they really were.
443
00:22:52,303 --> 00:22:56,055
♪
444
00:22:56,055 --> 00:22:58,100
(ghostly whisper)
445
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:01,060
Our first investigation
there probably produced
446
00:23:01,060 --> 00:23:05,191
the most evidence out of
any single one investigation
447
00:23:05,191 --> 00:23:07,193
we've ever
done anywhere.
448
00:23:07,193 --> 00:23:10,069
♪
449
00:23:10,069 --> 00:23:11,489
(ghostly whisper)
450
00:23:11,489 --> 00:23:12,574
♪
451
00:23:12,574 --> 00:23:17,328
Throughout the night, we had
what we call "Class C EVP's".
452
00:23:17,328 --> 00:23:20,080
Electronic
Voice Phenomenon.
453
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,418
But there were
sometimes what we got
454
00:23:23,418 --> 00:23:26,128
what we call
"Class A EVP's."
455
00:23:26,128 --> 00:23:30,089
Where we could hear
exactly what it was saying.
456
00:23:30,089 --> 00:23:32,218
Ghost: Come get us.
457
00:23:32,218 --> 00:23:34,679
Stop saying that.
458
00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:37,181
♪
459
00:23:37,181 --> 00:23:38,725
Get out.
460
00:23:38,725 --> 00:23:40,099
Laura: Get out.
461
00:23:40,099 --> 00:23:41,436
Come get us.
462
00:23:41,436 --> 00:23:42,353
Stop saying that.
463
00:23:42,353 --> 00:23:45,104
We had something we
thought growled at us.
464
00:23:45,104 --> 00:23:48,107
(deep growl)
465
00:23:48,107 --> 00:23:50,109
And all of the
sudden we hear--
466
00:23:50,109 --> 00:23:52,822
(demonic barking)
467
00:23:52,822 --> 00:23:54,032
♪
468
00:23:54,032 --> 00:23:56,534
Our first impression
was that we were dealing
469
00:23:56,534 --> 00:23:58,786
with something
very negative.
470
00:23:58,786 --> 00:24:02,957
This thing is saying
I'm the boss here.
471
00:24:02,957 --> 00:24:05,960
♪
472
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,798
A few days later, the entity
took things to the next level.
473
00:24:10,798 --> 00:24:12,132
♪
474
00:24:12,132 --> 00:24:16,512
I felt somebody
choke me.
475
00:24:16,512 --> 00:24:19,265
There was--
There was pressure on my neck.
476
00:24:19,265 --> 00:24:25,438
♪
477
00:24:26,939 --> 00:24:35,490
♪
478
00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:38,826
!Tammy Northcutt and her husband
had started to investigate
479
00:24:38,826 --> 00:24:41,454
the strange events
in their home.
480
00:24:42,914 --> 00:24:45,917
Their son Connor
was being traumatized.
481
00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:49,879
And now, things were
about to escalate further.
482
00:24:51,005 --> 00:24:55,009
I felt somebody
choke me.
483
00:24:55,009 --> 00:24:55,468
There was--
484
00:24:55,468 --> 00:24:57,176
There was
pressure on my neck.
485
00:24:57,176 --> 00:25:00,598
And it felt like there
was hands around my neck,
486
00:25:00,598 --> 00:25:03,183
like I was
being strangled.
487
00:25:03,183 --> 00:25:03,893
♪
488
00:25:03,893 --> 00:25:04,227
Baby, hey!
489
00:25:04,227 --> 00:25:07,897
And it was almost like I was
being pushed into the bed
490
00:25:07,897 --> 00:25:11,191
but umm, and then
I felt like a release
491
00:25:11,191 --> 00:25:13,403
and I was
able to sit up.
492
00:25:13,403 --> 00:25:15,196
But umm--
493
00:25:15,196 --> 00:25:17,740
It was--
It was awful.
494
00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:20,702
It was
an awful feeling.
495
00:25:21,494 --> 00:25:23,329
And that
frightened me.
496
00:25:23,329 --> 00:25:23,955
I was--
497
00:25:23,955 --> 00:25:28,835
I was ready to pack up and
just leave right then and there.
498
00:25:28,835 --> 00:25:32,255
Narrator: Tammy asked the
paranormal group to come back.
499
00:25:32,255 --> 00:25:37,217
This time they brought Paul,
they're most gifted psychic.
500
00:25:37,217 --> 00:25:41,347
He came over and he
was getting messages already
501
00:25:41,347 --> 00:25:44,267
from before he even
got to our house.
502
00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:48,104
He drew a
picture of our house.
503
00:25:48,104 --> 00:25:52,984
It was amazing that he even drew
it before he got to our house.
504
00:25:52,984 --> 00:25:54,485
It was incredible.
505
00:25:54,485 --> 00:26:01,242
♪
506
00:26:01,242 --> 00:26:04,746
!The first thing that Paul picked
up on was that the house
507
00:26:04,746 --> 00:26:08,124
had once been
a CD drinking den.
508
00:26:08,124 --> 00:26:09,249
Laura: He's talking
about this--
509
00:26:09,249 --> 00:26:13,253
This place being, you know,
where there's drunk people
510
00:26:13,253 --> 00:26:19,259
and he makes the sound of one
guy that just continually goes,
511
00:26:19,259 --> 00:26:21,261
"Argh, argh, argh!"
512
00:26:21,261 --> 00:26:24,264
And I about fell off my stool
when he did that
513
00:26:24,264 --> 00:26:27,518
because it sounded
just like what we heard.
514
00:26:28,102 --> 00:26:31,271
And I was floored, he also
said that there's another guy
515
00:26:31,271 --> 00:26:33,775
that likes
to play tricks.
516
00:26:33,775 --> 00:26:39,530
And he's hitting the wall or
the ceiling causing knocking.
517
00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:45,245
And we had rhythmic
knocking in our evidence.
518
00:26:45,369 --> 00:26:48,664
And Paul couldn't
have known any of that.
519
00:26:48,664 --> 00:26:53,294
Our biggest question was,
who was saying, "Come get us"?
520
00:26:53,294 --> 00:26:56,422
And who told
us to get out?
521
00:26:56,422 --> 00:27:00,300
I was telling him about where
Connor was seeing Mr. Raider.
522
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:07,350
I-I showed him the room and
he told us it wasn't Mr. Raider
523
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:09,644
it was Mr. Reader.
524
00:27:09,644 --> 00:27:11,271
And he--
525
00:27:11,271 --> 00:27:17,317
In the 1930's umm, there
was like a traveler's lodge
526
00:27:17,317 --> 00:27:21,321
that sat where
our house is now.
527
00:27:21,321 --> 00:27:26,410
He said Mr. Reader
owned the hotel.
528
00:27:26,410 --> 00:27:29,206
♪
529
00:27:29,206 --> 00:27:32,625
And Paul's theory is that
Mr. Reader is hanging out
530
00:27:32,625 --> 00:27:37,672
in the master bedroom area
and he's not a very nice guy.
531
00:27:37,672 --> 00:27:42,635
And he's probably the
one that told us to get out.
532
00:27:42,635 --> 00:27:44,762
Narrator: It seemed like
it was Mr. Reader
533
00:27:44,762 --> 00:27:47,515
who was threating
Connor and Tammy.
534
00:27:48,348 --> 00:27:54,647
From what we found out with umm,
Paul, Mr. Reader umm--
535
00:27:56,065 --> 00:28:01,112
Felt that women were second
class citizens, basically.
536
00:28:01,112 --> 00:28:02,488
He umm--
537
00:28:02,655 --> 00:28:05,741
I feel it was him trying
to get me out of the room.
538
00:28:05,741 --> 00:28:10,371
I think he was trying to scare
me to get out of the house.
539
00:28:10,913 --> 00:28:12,372
And it worked.
540
00:28:12,372 --> 00:28:15,501
♪
541
00:28:15,501 --> 00:28:19,088
He started
talking to Mr. Reader.
542
00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:21,883
As he was explaining
to Mr. Reader that
543
00:28:21,883 --> 00:28:25,469
this was a different time,
women are equal.
544
00:28:25,469 --> 00:28:30,309
The light started to
brighten up in the room
545
00:28:31,392 --> 00:28:33,686
and it felt
lighter in the room.
546
00:28:33,686 --> 00:28:39,650
And now, I don't have that
negative feeling anymore,
547
00:28:39,650 --> 00:28:40,943
that's gone.
548
00:28:41,444 --> 00:28:44,364
Paul had cleansed
the negative spirit
549
00:28:44,364 --> 00:28:47,326
but still had
some questions.
550
00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:50,410
He asked Jerry, umm--
551
00:28:50,410 --> 00:28:53,831
What the
name Dell meant.
552
00:28:53,831 --> 00:29:01,839
He said, "Well, it's Della, that
was mom, she had passed away."
553
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:02,715
♪
554
00:29:02,715 --> 00:29:07,427
And that's who was
following Connor around.
555
00:29:07,427 --> 00:29:10,430
The female spirit who had
!been waking Connor in the night,
556
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:14,602
Tammy's mother in law,
!wasn't trying to frighten Connor
557
00:29:14,602 --> 00:29:17,480
but instead,
to protect him.
558
00:29:17,563 --> 00:29:20,317
It was her voice that
Tammy heard amongst
559
00:29:20,317 --> 00:29:22,610
the arguing
in the basement.
560
00:29:22,610 --> 00:29:23,443
♪
561
00:29:23,443 --> 00:29:26,906
I actually kinda felt
a little comforted knowing
562
00:29:26,906 --> 00:29:29,909
that she was
looking out for him.
563
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:33,913
First of all, we tell the people
that we work with that they
564
00:29:33,913 --> 00:29:36,165
have to take control
over their house.
565
00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:42,463
So, Tammy for example,
would tell whatever was there,
566
00:29:42,463 --> 00:29:45,091
"This is my house,
get out!"
567
00:29:45,091 --> 00:29:47,467
Well, she's learned now
that there's certain spirits
568
00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:48,636
that she wants
to keep there
569
00:29:48,636 --> 00:29:53,308
but you have to take
control of your own place.
570
00:29:53,308 --> 00:29:58,104
Every once and awhile you'll
still hear the door in the back
571
00:29:58,104 --> 00:30:02,483
and the heavy footsteps
going down the stairs.
572
00:30:02,483 --> 00:30:03,609
Umm--
573
00:30:03,693 --> 00:30:08,531
But knowing what I know
now because of Paul umm,
574
00:30:08,531 --> 00:30:13,119
I do feel better
knowing that umm--
575
00:30:13,911 --> 00:30:17,497
It's just you know, basically
just the sounds of the men
576
00:30:17,497 --> 00:30:23,129
going into the bar cause that's
where the basement was, the bar.
577
00:30:23,129 --> 00:30:24,504
Umm--
578
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:30,510
And kinda knowing that umm,
I'm not going to get harmed,
579
00:30:30,510 --> 00:30:36,058
!I'm not going to get hurt, that
!makes me feel more comfortable.
580
00:30:36,058 --> 00:30:39,645
♪
581
00:30:40,188 --> 00:30:43,275
♪
582
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,735
One of the more unusual
reasons for ghosts harbouring
583
00:30:45,735 --> 00:30:49,529
evil intentions toward
the living is that they died
584
00:30:49,529 --> 00:30:51,283
in tragic
circumstances--
585
00:30:51,283 --> 00:30:56,329
And they want they're living
!victims to suffer the same fate.
586
00:30:56,329 --> 00:30:58,538
♪
587
00:30:58,538 --> 00:31:03,211
(typing)
588
00:31:04,086 --> 00:31:05,171
Paranormal
Survivor 2.
589
00:31:05,171 --> 00:31:06,797
Michael's
haunted apartment.
590
00:31:06,797 --> 00:31:09,509
Story number 4,
take 1.
591
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:14,347
♪
592
00:31:14,347 --> 00:31:19,810
It was 2005 and a couple friends
of mine uhh, long time friends
593
00:31:19,810 --> 00:31:22,562
bought a building
that had, had a fire.
594
00:31:22,562 --> 00:31:24,857
Uhh, and they
decided to renovate it.
595
00:31:24,857 --> 00:31:26,650
Narrator: After his friends
finished renovating
596
00:31:26,650 --> 00:31:29,862
the burned out building,
they offered to rent
597
00:31:29,862 --> 00:31:32,449
Michael one
of the apartments.
598
00:31:32,449 --> 00:31:34,617
♪
599
00:31:34,617 --> 00:31:39,579
When I moved in
I felt cozy and it was--
600
00:31:39,579 --> 00:31:41,040
It was a
comfortable little place,
601
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,627
I thought something
I could live in for awhile.
602
00:31:44,627 --> 00:31:46,879
My thought exactly,
look around.
603
00:31:46,879 --> 00:31:51,634
I actually, had my stepson
living with me at the time,
604
00:31:51,634 --> 00:31:54,011
my kids would come
over on the weekends.
605
00:31:54,011 --> 00:31:57,640
Umm, so it was a
small apartment.
606
00:31:58,099 --> 00:32:00,600
But that was it,
just him and I.
607
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,647
Narrator: That feeling of
coziness did not last long.
608
00:32:04,647 --> 00:32:07,607
♪
609
00:32:07,607 --> 00:32:12,612
(creaking)
610
00:32:12,612 --> 00:32:19,078
The strangeness in the apartment
started about three days in.
611
00:32:20,871 --> 00:32:24,624
(creaking)
612
00:32:24,624 --> 00:32:28,671
We started hearing the
cabinet doors in the kitchen.
613
00:32:28,671 --> 00:32:33,008
(banging)
614
00:32:33,008 --> 00:32:35,220
Like someone was
opening them just enough
615
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,637
so they'd
tap, tap, tap.
616
00:32:37,637 --> 00:32:39,723
(tapping)
617
00:32:39,723 --> 00:32:45,104
♪
618
00:32:45,104 --> 00:32:48,648
(creaking)
619
00:32:48,648 --> 00:32:58,658
(banging)
620
00:32:58,784 --> 00:33:00,660
So, I went in
to check it out,
621
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:03,663
I could never find
out what was going on.
622
00:33:03,663 --> 00:33:07,667
Umm, I had an exterminator come
and cause I thought maybe
623
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:09,837
there was mice or
something but there wasn't.
624
00:33:09,837 --> 00:33:13,466
So, I had no explanation
for it at that point.
625
00:33:13,466 --> 00:33:19,679
♪
626
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:23,893
It was shortly after that
!other things started to happen.
627
00:33:23,893 --> 00:33:26,686
♪
628
00:33:26,686 --> 00:33:30,816
(rock music blaring)
629
00:33:30,816 --> 00:33:35,695
The stereo would blast
on at 3:20 in the morning
630
00:33:35,695 --> 00:33:40,159
every single morning
and it would be full blast.
631
00:33:41,328 --> 00:33:45,457
I thought maybe my son was
goofing around with me,
632
00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:46,541
turning it on.
633
00:33:46,541 --> 00:33:55,550
(rock music
continues)
634
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:57,717
Then with everything
else that was going on
635
00:33:57,717 --> 00:34:00,930
I started to believe
him that he wasn't.
636
00:34:04,724 --> 00:34:07,520
It would be so
loud that you know,
637
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,147
I'm thinking I'm gonna
get kicked out of here.
638
00:34:10,147 --> 00:34:12,525
What's going on,
you did this?
639
00:34:12,732 --> 00:34:16,736
My son was about
12 years old at the time.
640
00:34:16,736 --> 00:34:17,737
He was scared,
he was--
641
00:34:17,737 --> 00:34:19,156
He was a little
terrified about it,
642
00:34:19,156 --> 00:34:23,743
I mean, he doesn't even to this
day really talk about it much.
643
00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:29,376
The electric would go on and
off, it would flicker and umm,
644
00:34:29,376 --> 00:34:32,504
just weird things we'd
hear banging on the wall.
645
00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:34,754
And just, there was
no reason for it.
646
00:34:34,754 --> 00:34:37,717
I was the only
apartment on that end,
647
00:34:37,717 --> 00:34:39,552
so nobody could
bang on the walls.
648
00:34:39,552 --> 00:34:41,011
So, we started
to figure out
649
00:34:41,011 --> 00:34:43,763
that something
strange was going on.
650
00:34:44,890 --> 00:34:47,101
There was three
different times that
651
00:34:47,101 --> 00:34:50,313
I would try to look up the
history of this building
652
00:34:50,313 --> 00:34:53,148
to find out what
might have happened.
653
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:58,738
And every time I would
type in to start looking
654
00:34:58,738 --> 00:35:00,780
my computer
would drop off.
655
00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:01,199
♪
656
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,411
Nothing else would die all
the rest of the power stayed
657
00:35:04,411 --> 00:35:07,121
on just the
computer would go off.
658
00:35:07,121 --> 00:35:07,787
♪
659
00:35:07,787 --> 00:35:08,788
It was a brand
new computer,
660
00:35:08,788 --> 00:35:11,626
I brought it into the service
guy three different times.
661
00:35:11,626 --> 00:35:14,754
He finally yelled at me
and told me don't come back
662
00:35:14,754 --> 00:35:17,340
cause there was
nothing wrong with it.
663
00:35:17,797 --> 00:35:19,967
Something in the building
was hampering Michael's
664
00:35:19,967 --> 00:35:23,305
attempt to
investigate it's history.
665
00:35:23,305 --> 00:35:31,103
♪
666
00:35:32,689 --> 00:35:41,698
♪
667
00:35:41,698 --> 00:35:45,243
!Michael Vera was having strange
experiences after moving
668
00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:49,539
into a building that had
been renovated due to a fire.
669
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:55,420
At first I didn't make any
connection to the fire at all,
670
00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:56,254
I just thought--
671
00:35:56,254 --> 00:35:58,381
I thought our minds
were playing with us.
672
00:35:58,381 --> 00:36:01,343
So, I thought that you know,
that we were missing something
673
00:36:01,343 --> 00:36:03,843
that you know, at some
point we were gonna say,
674
00:36:03,843 --> 00:36:07,807
"Ahh, that's what it was"
and laugh about it.
675
00:36:08,932 --> 00:36:11,186
(screaming)
676
00:36:11,186 --> 00:36:17,734
♪
677
00:36:17,734 --> 00:36:21,446
I had rented a movie and in
this movie in the end
678
00:36:21,446 --> 00:36:24,864
there was extras
and it showed how to do EVP's
679
00:36:24,864 --> 00:36:26,866
so we thought well,
let's try it.
680
00:36:26,866 --> 00:36:30,870
Narrator: EVP or electronic
voice phenomena are believed
681
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:33,208
to be a means of
recording communications
682
00:36:33,208 --> 00:36:35,418
with the
spirit world.
683
00:36:35,418 --> 00:36:39,879
♪
684
00:36:39,879 --> 00:36:44,427
One night after recording
we picked something up.
685
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:46,596
Sit down.
686
00:36:47,887 --> 00:36:52,976
Put in a new one
and listen in.
687
00:36:52,976 --> 00:36:54,813
Here we go.
688
00:37:00,901 --> 00:37:04,113
(demonic growling)
689
00:37:04,113 --> 00:37:07,200
What we uhh, got
first was like growling.
690
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,911
We'd hear growling
like uhh, arghhhh.
691
00:37:10,911 --> 00:37:14,914
Kinda like demonic
type uhh, growls.
692
00:37:14,914 --> 00:37:17,460
And my son
at one point said,
693
00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:20,003
"Go to the light,
go to the light."
694
00:37:20,003 --> 00:37:21,798
You know?
695
00:37:21,798 --> 00:37:23,923
♪
696
00:37:23,923 --> 00:37:25,760
(unearthly whispering)
697
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,388
Get away
from the light.
698
00:37:28,888 --> 00:37:33,933
We could hear like a mans
!voice, demonic type mans voice.
699
00:37:33,933 --> 00:37:37,937
I start picking and poking
trying to make them mad.
700
00:37:37,937 --> 00:37:41,150
And I said uhh, " Oh, I'm
gonna have a cigarette."
701
00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:44,320
I had said uhh, "Do you
want a cigarette."
702
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,907
I said, "You can't
have any, you're dead."
703
00:37:47,907 --> 00:37:50,075
And when we
played the tape back
704
00:37:50,075 --> 00:37:53,954
this little girl on the tape
said, "So, who cares?"
705
00:37:53,954 --> 00:37:56,332
And it was
as clear as day.
706
00:37:56,332 --> 00:37:58,501
Girl: So,
who cares?
707
00:37:58,501 --> 00:38:02,962
And I'm thinking, little girl on
the other side that don't care--
708
00:38:02,962 --> 00:38:04,591
This is dangerous.
709
00:38:04,591 --> 00:38:08,720
♪
710
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:12,055
My hair just stuck up on end,
I couldn't believe it.
711
00:38:12,055 --> 00:38:14,517
I said,
"Wow, this is real."
712
00:38:14,517 --> 00:38:24,527
♪
713
00:38:26,696 --> 00:38:31,033
I invited uhh, a woman
over to uhh, watch a movie,
714
00:38:31,033 --> 00:38:32,992
have some dinner
with me one night
715
00:38:32,992 --> 00:38:36,372
and I never told
her anything cause, you know,
716
00:38:36,372 --> 00:38:39,417
I wasn't sure
exactly what was happening.
717
00:38:39,417 --> 00:38:41,252
(whispering)
718
00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:42,001
(dragging)
719
00:38:42,001 --> 00:38:47,006
And a picture of my kids,
it came off and it flew across
720
00:38:47,006 --> 00:38:51,471
the room and it slammed
against a radiator.
721
00:38:51,888 --> 00:38:55,014
And we kinda laughed
it off and played it off.
722
00:38:55,014 --> 00:38:59,395
And umm, I walked her
out to her car and uhh,
723
00:38:59,395 --> 00:39:02,565
walking her out I started
telling her what's going on.
724
00:39:02,565 --> 00:39:05,150
And you know, she acted
like she was interested
725
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:07,362
but I think she
thought I was crazy.
726
00:39:07,362 --> 00:39:10,823
And when I walked back into the
apartment a horseshoe came off
727
00:39:10,823 --> 00:39:14,202
the wall that I had
screwed into the plastered wall.
728
00:39:14,202 --> 00:39:17,205
It came off the wall and
it just skinned my head.
729
00:39:17,205 --> 00:39:19,999
It was just thrown at
me like somebody was--
730
00:39:19,999 --> 00:39:23,628
Like, you know, somebody
was angry, just threw it at me.
731
00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:28,007
♪
732
00:39:28,007 --> 00:39:30,133
At this point,
I'm not feeling to good
733
00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:31,844
about the
apartment at all.
734
00:39:31,844 --> 00:39:34,013
I'm now worried
about my kids safety.
735
00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:36,641
Umm, when all the kids
are over, I had four kids.
736
00:39:36,641 --> 00:39:39,978
So, there was times when umm,
they would be camping
737
00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:42,188
out of the
living room floor.
738
00:39:43,062 --> 00:39:47,235
TV: If you drive a tech, apc or
!any other heavy wheeling vehicle
739
00:39:47,235 --> 00:39:49,195
across the tracks
and other--
740
00:39:49,195 --> 00:39:53,073
(knocking)
741
00:39:53,073 --> 00:40:01,374
♪
742
00:40:01,374 --> 00:40:02,584
(knocking)
743
00:40:02,584 --> 00:40:06,838
And uhh, there was a few
!times that they would hear like,
744
00:40:06,838 --> 00:40:08,923
banging on the
floor around them.
745
00:40:08,923 --> 00:40:12,385
And, you know, I didn't
know what to tell em'.
746
00:40:12,385 --> 00:40:15,555
(screaming)
747
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,226
So, we started all
sleeping together umm,
748
00:40:20,226 --> 00:40:23,771
camping out on the
living room floor together.
749
00:40:23,771 --> 00:40:27,734
(clicking)
750
00:40:27,734 --> 00:40:30,612
And my stepson walks
in the room and he says,
751
00:40:30,612 --> 00:40:31,779
"Dad,
do you see this?"
752
00:40:31,779 --> 00:40:33,615
Cause I heard
a lot of clicking
753
00:40:33,615 --> 00:40:35,908
but I didn't pay
attention to it.
754
00:40:35,908 --> 00:40:41,120
♪
755
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,209
I looked up and the mouse
on the computer was moving.
756
00:40:45,209 --> 00:40:54,133
♪
757
00:40:56,012 --> 00:41:04,143
♪
758
00:41:04,143 --> 00:41:06,230
Narrator: Michael Verro
and his son has discovered
759
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:10,026
a paranormal entity
in his apartment.
760
00:41:10,026 --> 00:41:11,444
(ghostly whisper)
761
00:41:11,444 --> 00:41:14,153
And it was
gaining strength.
762
00:41:14,153 --> 00:41:16,449
♪
763
00:41:16,449 --> 00:41:17,367
(clicking)
764
00:41:17,367 --> 00:41:19,786
I looked up and the
mouse on the computer
765
00:41:19,786 --> 00:41:22,538
was moving
and it was clicking stuff.
766
00:41:22,538 --> 00:41:24,957
And we just sat there
with our jaws dropped,
767
00:41:24,957 --> 00:41:27,251
we couldn't believe
what we were seeing.
768
00:41:27,251 --> 00:41:28,167
♪
769
00:41:28,167 --> 00:41:32,465
!Narrator: Was the house finally
!ready to give up it's secrets?
770
00:41:33,172 --> 00:41:35,718
(clicking)
771
00:41:35,718 --> 00:41:38,888
Spirits being made up
of energy can manipulate
772
00:41:38,888 --> 00:41:42,182
electronics quite easily,
computers no different.
773
00:41:42,182 --> 00:41:45,269
I've done two cases
where it has happened.
774
00:41:45,269 --> 00:41:49,189
I also, worked another case
where a spirit actually,
775
00:41:49,189 --> 00:41:52,235
things were actually typed
out on the computer.
776
00:41:52,235 --> 00:41:58,198
And sure enough there was
a picture of the newspaper.
777
00:41:58,198 --> 00:42:00,034
The building
was you know, burnt up
778
00:42:00,034 --> 00:42:02,078
and the fire trucks
in front of it
779
00:42:02,078 --> 00:42:04,997
and there was
a little story on it.
780
00:42:04,997 --> 00:42:09,210
Talked about how the fire
started and how the smoke poured
781
00:42:09,210 --> 00:42:12,714
through the building
and that there was uhh,
782
00:42:12,714 --> 00:42:15,633
two deaths
in the building.
783
00:42:16,216 --> 00:42:20,471
There was uhh, a little girl
and her father who lived in
784
00:42:20,471 --> 00:42:24,934
my apartment and when the
fire broke out the little girl
785
00:42:24,934 --> 00:42:26,226
hid in my closet.
786
00:42:26,226 --> 00:42:27,145
(screaming)
787
00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:31,231
She hid in there, the father
apparently died in the hallway.
788
00:42:31,231 --> 00:42:35,235
She died in the
closet of the building.
789
00:42:35,737 --> 00:42:40,240
At that point, umm, the
computer went out again.
790
00:42:40,575 --> 00:42:44,620
Uhh, I felt very uneasy when
I read that and it seemed like
791
00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:47,247
they were getting more
comfortable with us
792
00:42:47,247 --> 00:42:47,957
and they
were doing--
793
00:42:47,957 --> 00:42:52,628
More and more was
happening as we went along.
794
00:42:52,628 --> 00:42:56,048
I don't care what you want,
I want you gone.
795
00:42:56,048 --> 00:42:58,218
I started to
provoke them.
796
00:42:58,218 --> 00:43:01,261
I would say horrible
things to them like,
797
00:43:01,261 --> 00:43:03,431
you're dead you
don't belong here,
798
00:43:03,431 --> 00:43:06,266
you're life is over
get out of my apartment,
799
00:43:06,266 --> 00:43:08,978
I'm gonna call somebody in here,
we're gonna get you--
800
00:43:08,978 --> 00:43:12,315
You're gonna go and threaten
to get a preist in there.
801
00:43:12,315 --> 00:43:14,734
I threatened to bless
the place, all these things.
802
00:43:14,734 --> 00:43:17,820
And every time I did that,
!the bulb would get real bright.
803
00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:21,157
I mean, almost where you're
waiting for the bulb to blow up
804
00:43:21,157 --> 00:43:23,283
but I mean, that's how
bright it would get.
805
00:43:23,283 --> 00:43:25,870
Then it would go back down
to dim again and so,
806
00:43:25,870 --> 00:43:29,665
I could tell I was started to
touch some nerves somewhere.
807
00:43:29,665 --> 00:43:30,958
♪
808
00:43:30,958 --> 00:43:36,256
!Michael was losing his patience
!and the events were escalating.
809
00:43:36,256 --> 00:43:39,218
♪
810
00:43:39,218 --> 00:43:43,930
This letter "A" that formed on
!the wall was in a ball of light,
811
00:43:43,930 --> 00:43:46,266
like a spotlight
and in the middle
812
00:43:46,266 --> 00:43:49,685
was a dark
shadowy "A" on there.
813
00:43:49,685 --> 00:43:52,146
Turns out the little girl
that lived there,
814
00:43:52,146 --> 00:43:54,106
her name
was Angela.
815
00:43:54,106 --> 00:43:57,151
People who die suddenly
and tragically
816
00:43:57,151 --> 00:44:01,321
often don't necessarily
realize that they've passed on,
817
00:44:01,321 --> 00:44:04,324
therefore they're going
to go back to the place
818
00:44:04,324 --> 00:44:06,326
that's most
familiar to them.
819
00:44:06,326 --> 00:44:10,330
I had goosebumps
all over my body
820
00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:13,042
and it scared the
hell out of me.
821
00:44:13,042 --> 00:44:19,339
The last straw came almost two
months in, in this apartment.
822
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:27,347
(fire alarm beeping)
823
00:44:27,347 --> 00:44:31,060
I woke up one morning and I
smelt something burning--
824
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:34,522
That's what woke me up
!and I noticed it was too bright.
825
00:44:34,522 --> 00:44:38,359
I looked and the blinds
were gone off the window.
826
00:44:38,359 --> 00:44:41,696
I sat up and looked
and clear across the room,
827
00:44:41,696 --> 00:44:46,366
these blinds were laying
on my electric heater melting
828
00:44:46,366 --> 00:44:49,871
and I was the only
one home that day.
829
00:44:50,162 --> 00:44:53,708
These blinds were
screwed into the wall,
830
00:44:53,708 --> 00:44:55,877
the wood frame
of the window.
831
00:44:55,877 --> 00:44:58,796
And uhh, you would
have to take off caps.
832
00:44:58,796 --> 00:45:02,382
You would have to take off four
screws and then you would
833
00:45:02,382 --> 00:45:04,677
have to lift them off
to take them off.
834
00:45:04,677 --> 00:45:09,308
And I didn't hear any of that
happening while I was sleeping.
835
00:45:09,308 --> 00:45:13,394
♪
836
00:45:13,394 --> 00:45:16,396
I start packing,
I said, "That's it."
837
00:45:16,396 --> 00:45:17,815
That was
the end of it.
838
00:45:17,815 --> 00:45:19,399
I packed
up that day.
839
00:45:19,399 --> 00:45:21,861
Uhh, I packed
up quick and left.
840
00:45:21,861 --> 00:45:28,701
♪
841
00:45:28,701 --> 00:45:31,746
I have no doubt in my
mind that it was connected
842
00:45:31,746 --> 00:45:35,166
and I think I ticked them off
enough where they were willing
843
00:45:35,166 --> 00:45:37,960
to bring me with them
because obviously,
844
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,713
they were trying
to burn the place down again.
845
00:45:40,713 --> 00:45:41,547
I mean,
that's why--
846
00:45:41,547 --> 00:45:46,844
I mean, why else would you
put plastic on a heater?
847
00:45:46,844 --> 00:45:50,723
♪
848
00:45:50,723 --> 00:45:55,144
After that, my friend Frank who
owned the building decided
849
00:45:55,144 --> 00:45:58,147
he would move in,
he would take my apartment.
850
00:45:58,147 --> 00:46:01,108
He lasted
there about a month.
851
00:46:01,108 --> 00:46:03,236
♪
852
00:46:03,236 --> 00:46:07,447
And then, a month later
the building was up for sale
853
00:46:07,447 --> 00:46:09,825
and I tried to
talk to these guys.
854
00:46:09,825 --> 00:46:10,493
"Why?" I said.
855
00:46:10,493 --> 00:46:12,954
They fixed it up,
why'd they sell it?
856
00:46:12,954 --> 00:46:16,749
They won't tell me,
I think I know though.
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