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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,809 --> 00:00:02,601 There was just nothing to explain it, nothing. 2 00:00:02,601 --> 00:00:04,438 It was just very, very scary. 3 00:00:04,438 --> 00:00:06,856 You are about to see real people. 4 00:00:06,856 --> 00:00:07,941 This is not normal. 5 00:00:07,941 --> 00:00:11,027 Reliving horrifying paranormal encounters-- 6 00:00:11,027 --> 00:00:11,736 (screaming) 7 00:00:11,736 --> 00:00:13,322 For the first time. 8 00:00:13,322 --> 00:00:14,365 (screaming) 9 00:00:14,656 --> 00:00:16,408 I felt terror. 10 00:00:16,991 --> 00:00:18,701 When ghosts attack the living-- 11 00:00:18,701 --> 00:00:22,373 He wanted her and he was gonna get her. 12 00:00:22,373 --> 00:00:24,500 (screaming) 13 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:25,501 14 00:00:25,501 --> 00:00:28,878 I buried this for nearly 30 years. 15 00:00:29,255 --> 00:00:31,714 Be prepared to be afraid. 16 00:00:31,714 --> 00:00:39,306 17 00:00:40,516 --> 00:00:45,187 (typing) 18 00:00:46,645 --> 00:00:48,357 Story number 21. 19 00:00:48,357 --> 00:00:49,774 Take 1. 20 00:00:50,192 --> 00:00:54,653 Al Kelchner dreamed of living !a quiet life in the countryside. 21 00:00:54,653 --> 00:00:59,451 And in 2001 he needed some peace more than ever. 22 00:00:59,451 --> 00:00:59,951 23 00:00:59,951 --> 00:01:03,746 I went through a difficult period in 2001. 24 00:01:03,746 --> 00:01:06,584 Uhh, including my father's death, 9/11 25 00:01:06,584 --> 00:01:09,669 and then I was laid off umm, from the company 26 00:01:09,669 --> 00:01:11,255 that I was working for. 27 00:01:11,255 --> 00:01:15,049 I reached a point in my life where I needed a change, 28 00:01:15,049 --> 00:01:18,970 I needed uhh, some calm in my life. 29 00:01:19,929 --> 00:01:23,725 My dad was a farm boy, so being out in the country, 30 00:01:23,725 --> 00:01:25,644 especially someone who was from the uhh, 31 00:01:25,644 --> 00:01:28,938 urban New York metropolitan area, that was a big thrill. 32 00:01:28,938 --> 00:01:30,815 33 00:01:30,815 --> 00:01:32,109 So Al made a change. 34 00:01:32,109 --> 00:01:36,695 He left New York City and !bought a hobby farm in Illinois. 35 00:01:36,695 --> 00:01:38,449 36 00:01:38,449 --> 00:01:40,409 It was kind of, I don't know, magical. 37 00:01:40,409 --> 00:01:42,161 It just fulfilled every expectation 38 00:01:42,161 --> 00:01:46,039 I had about the type of little farm I wanted. 39 00:01:46,039 --> 00:01:48,917 40 00:01:48,917 --> 00:01:51,961 It was picture postcard perfect. 41 00:01:51,961 --> 00:01:54,713 I just saw potential and possibilities. 42 00:01:54,713 --> 00:01:58,510 Al was so taken by the farm that he bought it on impulse 43 00:01:58,510 --> 00:02:01,138 without having stepped foot inside. 44 00:02:01,472 --> 00:02:04,933 It would be a decision he'd live to regret. 45 00:02:04,933 --> 00:02:09,230 It was very dark, physically, literally physically dark. 46 00:02:09,230 --> 00:02:12,149 Ugh, it was threatening. 47 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:13,732 It just, you felt uneasy 48 00:02:13,732 --> 00:02:15,486 the second you walked into that house. 49 00:02:15,486 --> 00:02:18,280 You felt as though you were being watched. 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,740 51 00:02:21,740 --> 00:02:24,743 It was a very negative dark energy 52 00:02:24,743 --> 00:02:26,996 and extremely intimidating. 53 00:02:26,996 --> 00:02:29,583 (door creaking) 54 00:02:29,583 --> 00:02:32,085 I did a subsequent research and found out 55 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:34,338 that it was a pretty interesting place. 56 00:02:34,338 --> 00:02:37,383 There was a lot of history from early uhh, 57 00:02:37,383 --> 00:02:41,470 from the revolution and colonial days. 58 00:02:41,470 --> 00:02:44,013 I was very conflicted, I found my little dream farm 59 00:02:44,013 --> 00:02:47,766 but at the same time I hated going home at night. 60 00:02:47,766 --> 00:02:48,519 61 00:02:48,519 --> 00:02:50,104 The drive and the closer I got, 62 00:02:50,104 --> 00:02:51,854 the more nerved I became because I knew 63 00:02:51,854 --> 00:02:55,109 I had to open that back door and walk into a totally 64 00:02:55,109 --> 00:02:58,404 dark house out in the country by myself. 65 00:02:58,404 --> 00:03:00,531 66 00:03:00,531 --> 00:03:04,618 Al's uneasy feeling in the house remain just a feeling-- 67 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:06,370 Until a few days after he moved in. 68 00:03:06,370 --> 00:03:10,207 One morning I got up and I went into the bathroom to shower 69 00:03:10,207 --> 00:03:11,790 and get ready for work-- 70 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:14,128 71 00:03:14,128 --> 00:03:18,132 And the bathroom was a !mess, towels were on the floor. 72 00:03:18,965 --> 00:03:22,594 Toiletries uhh, were scattered around. 73 00:03:22,594 --> 00:03:22,802 74 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:24,763 Items had been taken out of the cabinet 75 00:03:24,763 --> 00:03:27,974 and they were laying across the top of the vanity. 76 00:03:27,974 --> 00:03:30,561 77 00:03:30,561 --> 00:03:32,104 I was uneasy. 78 00:03:32,104 --> 00:03:36,358 I had no, umm, logical explanation. 79 00:03:36,815 --> 00:03:39,818 Little did Al know, this was just the beginning. 80 00:03:39,818 --> 00:03:44,241 Soon he began to experience other strange phenomena. 81 00:03:44,241 --> 00:03:47,619 82 00:03:47,619 --> 00:03:49,496 There was walking, talking 83 00:03:49,496 --> 00:03:52,915 and frequently my face was touched and stroked. 84 00:03:52,915 --> 00:03:55,834 85 00:03:55,834 --> 00:04:05,844 (ghostly whispering) 86 00:04:05,844 --> 00:04:15,854 (ghostly whispering) 87 00:04:19,858 --> 00:04:23,322 (sinister laughter) 88 00:04:23,322 --> 00:04:33,332 89 00:04:35,125 --> 00:04:38,462 It was one of those experiences you can't see, umm, 90 00:04:38,462 --> 00:04:41,880 you can't explain and it's really unnerving. 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,675 92 00:04:43,675 --> 00:04:45,427 But that wasn't the end of it. 93 00:04:45,427 --> 00:04:48,012 I was sitting in the family room 94 00:04:48,012 --> 00:04:50,808 and talking with a friend on the phone. 95 00:04:50,808 --> 00:04:51,891 (bang) 96 00:04:51,891 --> 00:04:54,893 When I heard, suddenly, loud knocking 97 00:04:54,893 --> 00:04:57,272 by the front door in the living room. 98 00:04:57,272 --> 00:05:00,526 (loud knocking) 99 00:05:00,526 --> 00:05:03,027 Which was a room and a half away. 100 00:05:03,027 --> 00:05:05,904 101 00:05:05,904 --> 00:05:07,241 (knocking) 102 00:05:07,241 --> 00:05:10,034 103 00:05:10,034 --> 00:05:11,910 And then, moved into the parlour 104 00:05:11,910 --> 00:05:14,665 which is adjacent to the living room. 105 00:05:14,665 --> 00:05:17,041 (knocking) 106 00:05:17,041 --> 00:05:20,295 And upstairs directly over my head. 107 00:05:20,295 --> 00:05:23,922 108 00:05:23,922 --> 00:05:25,551 (knocking) 109 00:05:25,551 --> 00:05:28,720 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,222 (knocking) 111 00:05:30,222 --> 00:05:32,932 112 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:42,942 (knocking) 113 00:05:42,984 --> 00:05:50,534 (knocking) 114 00:05:50,534 --> 00:05:53,454 It probably lasted a couple minutes, umm, 115 00:05:53,454 --> 00:05:56,415 and was incredibly unnerving and that was when I finally 116 00:05:56,415 --> 00:05:58,957 threw in the towel, raised the white flag and said, 117 00:05:58,957 --> 00:06:03,672 "Okay, I believe in you, so we're gonna have to co-exist." 118 00:06:04,423 --> 00:06:07,801 If Al thought acknowledging !whatever was haunting his house 119 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:09,968 would calm the activity-- 120 00:06:11,388 --> 00:06:12,971 He was wrong. 121 00:06:12,971 --> 00:06:15,142 122 00:06:15,142 --> 00:06:16,975 I was in the corner of the kitchen, 123 00:06:16,975 --> 00:06:19,978 I had bread in the toaster and as I stood there 124 00:06:19,978 --> 00:06:23,275 all of the sudden I felt a bit of a sharp pain 125 00:06:23,275 --> 00:06:24,983 at the back of my neck. 126 00:06:24,983 --> 00:06:27,986 I thought well, maybe I slept the wrong way 127 00:06:27,986 --> 00:06:30,157 and pinched a nerve. 128 00:06:30,741 --> 00:06:34,993 The pain spread through my shoulders down into my chest 129 00:06:34,993 --> 00:06:37,996 and I thought, "Oh my god, I just bought this place, 130 00:06:37,996 --> 00:06:41,168 I'm gonna have a heart attack in my new residence 131 00:06:41,168 --> 00:06:45,380 and nobody's gonna find me, you know, this is just awful." 132 00:06:45,380 --> 00:06:47,716 133 00:06:47,716 --> 00:06:53,011 But then I realized that umm, it wasn't from stress. 134 00:06:53,011 --> 00:06:56,015 It was someone who had wrapped their arms around me 135 00:06:56,015 --> 00:06:59,561 and was squeezing tighter and tighter. 136 00:06:59,561 --> 00:07:00,812 137 00:07:00,812 --> 00:07:02,814 And I said, "Stop it!" 138 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:07,361 And uhh, immediately it stopped and dissipated. 139 00:07:08,278 --> 00:07:09,655 But that wasn't the end of it. 140 00:07:09,655 --> 00:07:13,283 On Thursday, the same week, the same time, same location, 141 00:07:13,283 --> 00:07:17,329 same routine, toast in the toaster, it happened again. 142 00:07:17,329 --> 00:07:19,873 143 00:07:19,873 --> 00:07:23,001 This time though, it was just an immediate bear hug, 144 00:07:23,001 --> 00:07:25,587 someone very large, very strong, very powerful 145 00:07:25,587 --> 00:07:28,757 wrapping their arms around me and pulling me close. 146 00:07:28,757 --> 00:07:33,303 147 00:07:33,303 --> 00:07:34,972 And again I yelled, "Stop it!" 148 00:07:34,972 --> 00:07:37,558 and it stopped immediately. 149 00:07:37,558 --> 00:07:39,893 150 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:41,478 I felt terrified. 151 00:07:41,478 --> 00:07:43,897 I couldn't see anything but obviously, 152 00:07:43,897 --> 00:07:47,109 there was something that had a physical effect on me. 153 00:07:47,109 --> 00:07:49,319 So, I had no answers. 154 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:50,779 A house could feel physically threatening 155 00:07:50,779 --> 00:07:55,826 depending on what entity or spirit is occupying the house. 156 00:07:55,826 --> 00:07:57,327 Spirits are what they were in life. 157 00:07:57,327 --> 00:07:59,788 So, if you were a violent person in life, 158 00:07:59,788 --> 00:08:02,081 if you were an angry person in life 159 00:08:02,081 --> 00:08:04,042 you probably carry that to the other side. 160 00:08:04,042 --> 00:08:07,546 Spirits can get violent, if they just don't want you around. 161 00:08:07,546 --> 00:08:10,215 They could wanna chase you out. 162 00:08:10,215 --> 00:08:11,383 It was a test. 163 00:08:11,383 --> 00:08:15,093 "Let's see if you're gonna stay around." 164 00:08:15,304 --> 00:08:17,639 But Al did stay around. 165 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:19,182 I went upstairs. 166 00:08:19,182 --> 00:08:21,018 167 00:08:21,018 --> 00:08:24,103 I turned into the northwest bedroom and I-I opened the door. 168 00:08:24,103 --> 00:08:28,483 The minute I stepped foot into that room, I felt nauseous, 169 00:08:28,483 --> 00:08:30,068 I felt terror. 170 00:08:30,068 --> 00:08:36,700 171 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:39,118 (crash) 172 00:08:39,244 --> 00:08:40,704 And I felt as though, 173 00:08:40,704 --> 00:08:44,499 something was pulling me down to the floor. 174 00:08:44,499 --> 00:08:48,503 175 00:08:48,503 --> 00:08:53,300 The terror was almost debilitating. 176 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,511 177 00:08:56,511 --> 00:09:01,140 I-I was pushed a couple times. 178 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,729 I was struck and all of the sudden I felt a sharp, 179 00:09:05,729 --> 00:09:10,149 sharp pain in my right ribs. 180 00:09:10,149 --> 00:09:12,361 And that lasted for about three weeks 181 00:09:12,361 --> 00:09:14,279 before it finally dissipated. 182 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:15,697 183 00:09:15,697 --> 00:09:19,910 Al started to realize that his life was in danger. 184 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:25,082 I had a fight or flight instinct and the instinct was to flee, 185 00:09:25,082 --> 00:09:26,249 so I did. 186 00:09:26,249 --> 00:09:36,259 187 00:09:39,971 --> 00:09:46,185 It's really terrifying, the sense that you're not alone. 188 00:09:47,229 --> 00:09:52,191 And that something bad could happen. 189 00:09:52,191 --> 00:09:53,819 (growling) 190 00:09:53,819 --> 00:09:55,194 (door slams) 191 00:09:55,194 --> 00:10:01,618 192 00:10:03,995 --> 00:10:12,211 193 00:10:12,211 --> 00:10:15,340 After experiencing a string of strange events 194 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:17,509 in his picture perfect farmhouse, 195 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:20,470 Al Kelchner was under attack. 196 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:22,221 (door slams) 197 00:10:22,556 --> 00:10:27,269 The feeling of dread and doom was overbearing. 198 00:10:27,269 --> 00:10:31,523 199 00:10:31,523 --> 00:10:34,484 Al decided he needed outside help. 200 00:10:34,484 --> 00:10:38,321 I decided to open up the house to investigative teams. 201 00:10:38,321 --> 00:10:41,783 It really started with wanting a confirmation 202 00:10:41,783 --> 00:10:43,452 that what was really happening to me, 203 00:10:43,452 --> 00:10:46,205 one, was really happening, and number two, 204 00:10:46,205 --> 00:10:48,331 I wasn't losing my mind. 205 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:52,251 I'm pretty sensitive to the spirits, 206 00:10:52,251 --> 00:10:57,382 so when I get to a location I can kinda sense there was a lot 207 00:10:57,382 --> 00:11:00,259 of animosity going on at this place. 208 00:11:00,259 --> 00:11:01,386 209 00:11:01,386 --> 00:11:03,262 Before I go to any location, 210 00:11:03,262 --> 00:11:05,515 I would always try to do some research on it. 211 00:11:05,515 --> 00:11:09,268 I read a lot about the people that own the farm initially. 212 00:11:09,268 --> 00:11:12,981 There was a doctor as well, that lived at the property 213 00:11:12,981 --> 00:11:16,526 and from what I understand, he did some crazy things 214 00:11:16,526 --> 00:11:17,569 with the children. 215 00:11:17,569 --> 00:11:19,278 He would molest them. 216 00:11:19,278 --> 00:11:23,533 217 00:11:23,533 --> 00:11:25,952 (little girl screaming) 218 00:11:25,952 --> 00:11:27,621 (ghostly whisper) 219 00:11:27,621 --> 00:11:29,123 (little girl screaming) 220 00:11:29,123 --> 00:11:30,081 Did you hear that? 221 00:11:30,081 --> 00:11:33,292 Within a few hours, we heard screams 222 00:11:33,292 --> 00:11:35,629 by doing some EVP sessions. 223 00:11:37,756 --> 00:11:40,467 The things that were scary to me 224 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:44,303 were there were a lot of black shadows at the property. 225 00:11:44,303 --> 00:11:46,890 226 00:11:46,890 --> 00:11:50,685 I heard noises coming from the staircase that was behind me. 227 00:11:50,685 --> 00:11:53,147 I heard somebody running down the stairs. 228 00:11:53,147 --> 00:11:55,982 (fast footsteps) 229 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:57,359 (girl screaming) 230 00:11:57,359 --> 00:12:00,487 I felt something come up close to my back 231 00:12:00,487 --> 00:12:01,530 and the next thing I know, 232 00:12:01,530 --> 00:12:07,326 I felt just like a bear hug completely around my stomach. 233 00:12:07,326 --> 00:12:08,327 (gasping) 234 00:12:08,327 --> 00:12:12,040 This would not be the only investigation at Al's farm. 235 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,333 As time went on and I had groups come in, 236 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:18,337 members of these investigating teams seemed to observe 237 00:12:18,337 --> 00:12:20,715 more and more shadow figures. 238 00:12:20,715 --> 00:12:22,968 One of the most amazing experiences I've had at 239 00:12:22,968 --> 00:12:27,013 that house was and evening when a small group was there-- 240 00:12:27,013 --> 00:12:29,099 241 00:12:29,099 --> 00:12:31,350 Oh my god look, look! 242 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:36,481 243 00:12:36,481 --> 00:12:39,609 One of the people sitting at the dining room table said, 244 00:12:39,609 --> 00:12:42,445 "Oh my god, there's a shadow walking 245 00:12:42,445 --> 00:12:44,363 back and forth in the living room." 246 00:12:44,363 --> 00:12:48,702 And sure enough, the window was completely blacked out. 247 00:12:48,702 --> 00:12:50,204 248 00:12:50,204 --> 00:12:53,039 They observed them outside through the windows walking 249 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:56,585 between the barn and the sheen shed and inside the house. 250 00:12:56,585 --> 00:13:00,172 And then that morphed into what looked like the figure 251 00:13:00,172 --> 00:13:02,216 of a person and for the next half hour 252 00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:06,636 we watched that shadow walk around in the living room. 253 00:13:06,636 --> 00:13:09,431 It was pretty profound. 254 00:13:09,764 --> 00:13:11,975 Seeing a shadow figure, if it's a shadow man, 255 00:13:11,975 --> 00:13:14,393 you are seeing a spirit trying to manifest itself, 256 00:13:14,393 --> 00:13:16,395 it's trying to show itself to you. 257 00:13:16,395 --> 00:13:18,397 So, it forms as dark mass. 258 00:13:18,397 --> 00:13:21,443 Shadow people on the other hand, they were never human. 259 00:13:21,443 --> 00:13:26,031 They're a bit more physical, larger shadows with head, 260 00:13:26,031 --> 00:13:27,199 no necks, big shoulders. 261 00:13:27,199 --> 00:13:30,827 It could be you are going through a weakness at the time 262 00:13:30,827 --> 00:13:32,411 and they're taking advantage of it. 263 00:13:32,411 --> 00:13:35,749 Umm, you could be also dabbling in something you're not supposed 264 00:13:35,749 --> 00:13:39,418 to be dabbling in and they come as a warning. 265 00:13:39,418 --> 00:13:43,422 (girl screams) Shadow people can be pretty bad and could hurt people. 266 00:13:43,422 --> 00:13:50,139 I was scared, umm, frightened for Al's safety. 267 00:13:50,139 --> 00:13:53,432 I was told there could be up to 30 spirits in the house 268 00:13:53,432 --> 00:13:56,561 at one time, which I thought was an exaggeration, 269 00:13:56,561 --> 00:13:59,106 but when I hear that multiple times repeated to me 270 00:13:59,106 --> 00:14:02,901 over a period of years then I start to pay attention. 271 00:14:02,901 --> 00:14:04,195 I knew the place was haunted 272 00:14:04,195 --> 00:14:08,573 but I didn't realize how haunted it really was. 273 00:14:10,284 --> 00:14:11,369 (chains creaking) 274 00:14:11,369 --> 00:14:14,121 There was a woman at the house who came to visit 275 00:14:14,121 --> 00:14:21,460 and she described every entity, known entity in the house. 276 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:27,466 !There was a farmer from the 19th century who was in the kitchen. 277 00:14:27,466 --> 00:14:32,764 There was a male entity in the northwest bedroom of the house. 278 00:14:32,764 --> 00:14:35,684 The report was this entity was a doctor 279 00:14:35,684 --> 00:14:40,479 who had a lot of negative energy or was not very nice. 280 00:14:40,479 --> 00:14:41,815 (door slams) 281 00:14:41,815 --> 00:14:44,151 There came a point where I needed answers 282 00:14:44,151 --> 00:14:46,069 and I needed resolutions. 283 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:48,155 I believe it was 2011. 284 00:14:48,155 --> 00:14:51,658 To do something about the energy at the house. 285 00:14:51,658 --> 00:14:56,288 And no one had ever done umm, a cleansing before. 286 00:14:56,288 --> 00:14:59,417 Cleanse this house of all negativity. 287 00:14:59,417 --> 00:15:01,500 Only love and light may enter. 288 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:06,257 So we went from room to room, !saged the corners high and low. 289 00:15:06,257 --> 00:15:11,886 It was my responsibility to make positive statements 290 00:15:11,886 --> 00:15:14,513 and also ban any negative energy. 291 00:15:14,513 --> 00:15:16,683 What I didn't know although I was told afterwards 292 00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:22,106 is that the medium with me could heard umm, growling, 293 00:15:22,106 --> 00:15:25,524 umm, furniture being slammed. 294 00:15:26,318 --> 00:15:29,238 Only love and light may enter. 295 00:15:29,238 --> 00:15:32,324 Cleanse this house of all negativity. 296 00:15:32,324 --> 00:15:35,534 Only love and light may enter. 297 00:15:35,534 --> 00:15:38,537 298 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:44,170 And apparently it worked because as I look back on that period 299 00:15:44,170 --> 00:15:46,921 and prior the energy at the house was very dark 300 00:15:46,921 --> 00:15:49,425 at the house, it isn't anymore. 301 00:15:49,758 --> 00:15:52,719 The cleansing seemed to rid the house of it's ghosts 302 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:55,347 but Al wasn't done with the spirit world yet. 303 00:15:55,347 --> 00:16:00,352 !There was one final ghost and it was waiting especially for him. 304 00:16:00,352 --> 00:16:01,560 Al: A woman in the house 305 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:08,486 who was usually found on the !second floor died around 1845-- 306 00:16:08,486 --> 00:16:13,740 And the connection was described to me as umm, 307 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:16,910 something like umm, a soul mate. 308 00:16:17,744 --> 00:16:22,581 She described Sarah as my wife-- 309 00:16:22,581 --> 00:16:24,751 From a past life. 310 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:25,127 311 00:16:25,127 --> 00:16:29,588 Umm, and it's really difficult for me to wrap my brain around. 312 00:16:29,588 --> 00:16:34,261 But they recorded an EVP it's very brief it's rapid 313 00:16:34,261 --> 00:16:38,265 but it's pretty clear.!It's a female voice !saying, "I love him." 314 00:16:38,349 --> 00:16:39,598 I love him. 315 00:16:39,598 --> 00:16:40,892 316 00:16:40,892 --> 00:16:43,937 It's hard for me to comprehend. 317 00:16:44,563 --> 00:16:47,606 I really thought about selling the house 318 00:16:47,606 --> 00:16:49,568 and giving up my dream. 319 00:16:49,568 --> 00:16:54,864 But I decided to stick with it and see what would unfold. 320 00:16:54,864 --> 00:16:58,160 Although, I know there's some very negative energy, 321 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,619 my experience for the most part has been positive. 322 00:17:00,619 --> 00:17:06,460 And somehow I managed to cope with what was going on around me 323 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:09,712 and achieve some level of acceptance. 324 00:17:09,712 --> 00:17:12,006 And here I am, 8 years later. 325 00:17:12,006 --> 00:17:15,634 326 00:17:15,634 --> 00:17:18,637 When ghosts physically attack the living, 327 00:17:18,637 --> 00:17:21,517 victims typically feel themselves being squeezed 328 00:17:21,517 --> 00:17:25,187 or hugged but sometimes the attacks can be even 329 00:17:25,187 --> 00:17:29,275 more violent and leave scars that never heal. 330 00:17:30,609 --> 00:17:35,447 (typing) 331 00:17:35,447 --> 00:17:39,033 Ed's tormentor, story number 6. 332 00:17:43,247 --> 00:17:53,257 333 00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:58,470 I was in my twenties. 334 00:17:58,470 --> 00:18:01,973 And I was in bed, we were sleeping. 335 00:18:01,973 --> 00:18:05,102 336 00:18:05,102 --> 00:18:10,649 And all of the sudden !I felt real heavy in the chest. 337 00:18:10,649 --> 00:18:14,986 And I woke my husband up !and said, "Get it off my chest, 338 00:18:14,986 --> 00:18:16,695 I can't breathe." 339 00:18:16,695 --> 00:18:19,158 Honey, honey, what's going on? 340 00:18:19,158 --> 00:18:21,784 And he said, "There's nothing there." 341 00:18:21,784 --> 00:18:24,704 And I said, "There is I can't breathe." 342 00:18:24,829 --> 00:18:30,211 (gasping for air) 343 00:18:30,336 --> 00:18:32,711 It lasted about ten minutes. 344 00:18:32,711 --> 00:18:35,798 I felt like I was being choked. 345 00:18:35,798 --> 00:18:39,428 Something-- Something was attacking me. 346 00:18:39,428 --> 00:18:41,555 I was scared, you know? 347 00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:44,933 Nothing like that had ever happened before. 348 00:18:45,724 --> 00:18:49,728 And the next day, I had bruises on my neck. 349 00:18:49,728 --> 00:18:52,731 They were like finger marks. 350 00:18:52,941 --> 00:18:55,527 Karen didn't know what to make of the incident 351 00:18:55,527 --> 00:18:58,197 but it left her with an uneasy feeling. 352 00:18:58,197 --> 00:19:08,207 353 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,755 Next day I got flowers. 354 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:24,013 355 00:19:24,013 --> 00:19:26,141 It was like for a funeral. 356 00:19:26,141 --> 00:19:36,151 357 00:19:36,193 --> 00:19:41,072 358 00:19:41,072 --> 00:19:44,783 A few days later with her husband away for work, 359 00:19:44,783 --> 00:19:48,330 Karen had her next strange encounter. 360 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:51,500 361 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:53,793 I saw a man in a blue shirt. 362 00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:58,757 363 00:19:58,757 --> 00:20:01,135 I didn't recognize him at all. 364 00:20:01,135 --> 00:20:03,554 I didn't see his face clear. 365 00:20:03,554 --> 00:20:06,931 366 00:20:06,931 --> 00:20:10,477 I always saw him at the bottom of the bed. 367 00:20:10,477 --> 00:20:12,438 I was being watched. 368 00:20:12,438 --> 00:20:15,107 I told him to stop, to go away. 369 00:20:15,107 --> 00:20:18,652 "You're not welcome here, go away." 370 00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:20,112 But he didn't. 371 00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:24,823 I couldn't count the !number of times that I saw him. 372 00:20:24,823 --> 00:20:26,951 373 00:20:26,951 --> 00:20:31,582 But one night the apparition did more than just watch. 374 00:20:31,582 --> 00:20:34,209 Karen: I just felt myself being pulled down 375 00:20:34,209 --> 00:20:36,919 and then he would assault me. 376 00:20:37,713 --> 00:20:39,757 (screaming) 377 00:20:39,757 --> 00:20:46,846 378 00:20:49,098 --> 00:20:57,483 379 00:20:57,483 --> 00:21:02,987 Karen White had been !attacked in her bed by a spirit. 380 00:21:02,987 --> 00:21:03,862 (screaming) 381 00:21:03,862 --> 00:21:05,199 And it was every night. 382 00:21:05,199 --> 00:21:08,910 He would assault me in some way or another. 383 00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:10,869 And then he raped me. 384 00:21:11,330 --> 00:21:15,709 !It got to the point where I was afraid to go to bed at night. 385 00:21:15,709 --> 00:21:20,255 I have in fact heard of spirits sexually assaulting 386 00:21:20,255 --> 00:21:22,881 or having sex with the living. 387 00:21:22,881 --> 00:21:26,845 I had two cases personally where that happened. 388 00:21:26,845 --> 00:21:30,889 One of those cases went on for almost 20 years. 389 00:21:30,889 --> 00:21:35,646 !Eventually the attacks subsided, giving Karen some relief. 390 00:21:35,646 --> 00:21:40,150 Karen: I wasn't being attacked !so much but it took quite awhile 391 00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:42,068 before it stopped there. 392 00:21:42,068 --> 00:21:46,905 393 00:21:46,905 --> 00:21:51,537 In the following years, Karen and her husband had a son Ed. 394 00:21:51,537 --> 00:21:54,581 With the night time attacks having all but stopped, 395 00:21:54,581 --> 00:21:57,209 Karen thought her torment was over. 396 00:21:57,209 --> 00:21:59,961 But the worst was yet to come. 397 00:21:59,961 --> 00:22:04,466 I didn't know it would affect him, I thought it was just me. 398 00:22:04,466 --> 00:22:07,344 The first sign of trouble came when the couple tried 399 00:22:07,344 --> 00:22:09,095 to have their baby christened. 400 00:22:09,095 --> 00:22:13,600 Now an adult, Ed feels it was no coincidence. 401 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,228 The night before I was supposed to be baptized 402 00:22:16,228 --> 00:22:17,354 the church had burned down, 403 00:22:17,354 --> 00:22:20,774 so I didn't go the next morning of course. 404 00:22:20,774 --> 00:22:21,941 From his earliest memories, 405 00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:25,027 Ed recalls being tormented by evil spirits. 406 00:22:25,027 --> 00:22:28,072 From age three and up it's a piece of cake remembering 407 00:22:28,072 --> 00:22:33,412 almost everything, especially all the horrible stuff. 408 00:22:33,412 --> 00:22:36,955 409 00:22:36,955 --> 00:22:39,710 (growling) 410 00:22:39,710 --> 00:22:42,838 I call him the tormentor, always come out of the closet 411 00:22:42,838 --> 00:22:44,465 try to scare the hell out of me. 412 00:22:44,465 --> 00:22:48,635 Come out from underneath the bed or in front of the bed 413 00:22:48,635 --> 00:22:50,969 or he'd come from a dark corner. 414 00:22:50,969 --> 00:22:54,641 Got a long face, spiked uhh, kinda tongue, 415 00:22:54,641 --> 00:22:58,770 horns on top of the head, black shiny skin. 416 00:22:59,978 --> 00:23:01,980 That's the tormentor. 417 00:23:03,108 --> 00:23:07,069 If he didn't come out it would be spiders. 418 00:23:07,069 --> 00:23:09,989 And it would be the walls, the ceilings, the floors, 419 00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:11,990 the bed and everything covered in spiders 420 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:13,494 and even if I tried to scream 421 00:23:13,494 --> 00:23:16,622 I felt like spiders were coming out of my mouth. 422 00:23:16,622 --> 00:23:19,081 So, it was like total nightmare city. 423 00:23:19,081 --> 00:23:25,130 (screaming) 424 00:23:26,088 --> 00:23:27,424 (door creaking) 425 00:23:27,424 --> 00:23:33,180 Mom tried to blame it off as it's my imagination. 426 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:36,391 Trying to calm me down, not to freak me out. 427 00:23:36,391 --> 00:23:39,645 I knew it was something, something different. 428 00:23:39,645 --> 00:23:43,524 429 00:23:43,524 --> 00:23:45,776 I wasn't too shocked because, you know, 430 00:23:45,776 --> 00:23:49,028 I thought he was having something like I was having. 431 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:51,657 I told him not to worry about it. 432 00:23:51,657 --> 00:23:52,031 (screaming) 433 00:23:52,031 --> 00:23:55,033 I really didn't get much sleep when I was a kid and 434 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:58,037 my parents did what most parents do, 435 00:23:58,037 --> 00:24:01,039 they took me in and had me checked out. 436 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:02,709 And none of it made a difference 437 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:04,962 but I just kinda had to play along, 438 00:24:04,962 --> 00:24:06,087 so they wouldn't think I'm crazy 439 00:24:06,087 --> 00:24:09,466 or I wouldn't get locked up in the looney bin. 440 00:24:09,466 --> 00:24:15,681 441 00:24:15,681 --> 00:24:20,602 !The family was desperate to move !out but finances were a problem. 442 00:24:20,602 --> 00:24:23,855 Eventually, they saved enough to get a new home 443 00:24:23,855 --> 00:24:26,525 but whatever was tormenting them had no intention 444 00:24:26,525 --> 00:24:29,068 of letting them go so easily. 445 00:24:29,068 --> 00:24:32,070 This thing followed us there as well. 446 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:40,078 447 00:24:40,078 --> 00:24:42,541 It got worse in the teenage years. 448 00:24:42,541 --> 00:24:52,551 449 00:24:54,553 --> 00:24:56,179 Writing appeared on the wall. 450 00:24:56,179 --> 00:24:59,182 It was telling me to !kill other people, kill myself, 451 00:24:59,182 --> 00:25:01,351 ways of killing myself. 452 00:25:01,476 --> 00:25:06,064 I just have to keep putting !all that stuff out of my memory. 453 00:25:06,064 --> 00:25:10,319 454 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,487 I felt bad for him. 455 00:25:12,487 --> 00:25:14,990 I just told him it was okay. 456 00:25:14,990 --> 00:25:18,327 You know, nothing bad is gonna happen to you. 457 00:25:19,745 --> 00:25:22,205 The torment continued for 10 more years, 458 00:25:22,205 --> 00:25:26,668 until finally Karen and Ed sought outside help. 459 00:25:26,668 --> 00:25:28,920 460 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,132 We have a friend who belongs to a paranormal group. 461 00:25:33,132 --> 00:25:37,136 It was through him that we got this shaman. 462 00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:41,140 463 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,602 They had us basically, sit in the chair like this-- 464 00:25:43,602 --> 00:25:46,521 They put a piece of cloth underneath the chair 465 00:25:46,521 --> 00:25:53,236 and then he used like sea salt and an eagles feather. 466 00:25:53,945 --> 00:25:56,198 And he just brushed down your body. 467 00:25:56,198 --> 00:25:57,908 468 00:25:57,908 --> 00:26:01,620 They fold up the doll into like !a little totem and just say that 469 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:06,165 you give all your evil spirits and energy to this doll. 470 00:26:06,165 --> 00:26:09,628 471 00:26:09,628 --> 00:26:12,131 And then they're supposed to go and burn it 472 00:26:12,131 --> 00:26:13,757 and they call it they're release place. 473 00:26:13,757 --> 00:26:17,176 The doll burns completely, you're out of trouble. 474 00:26:17,176 --> 00:26:21,890 475 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:26,520 And sure enough, the next day they went to the burn site, 476 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,356 my doll didn't burn completely. 477 00:26:29,356 --> 00:26:33,318 478 00:26:33,318 --> 00:26:35,821 After a few months rest bite-- 479 00:26:37,196 --> 00:26:40,951 The torment and the man returned. 480 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:43,620 Karen: He disappeared for quite a while. 481 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:46,205 482 00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:49,626 I thought it was finished, it was over with. 483 00:26:50,209 --> 00:26:52,003 But there he was. 484 00:26:53,255 --> 00:26:54,673 He's back. 485 00:26:54,673 --> 00:26:57,216 486 00:26:57,216 --> 00:26:58,844 C'mon! 487 00:26:58,844 --> 00:27:01,139 Fearing for his mother's safety, 488 00:27:01,139 --> 00:27:04,142 Ed took matters into his own hands. 489 00:27:04,142 --> 00:27:05,308 490 00:27:05,308 --> 00:27:08,979 Come and get me, come! 491 00:27:08,979 --> 00:27:12,482 I challenged it and told it that, "You wanna attack someone 492 00:27:12,482 --> 00:27:15,736 leave mom alone because moms in her 70's. 493 00:27:15,736 --> 00:27:17,487 So I said, "Leave mom alone. 494 00:27:17,487 --> 00:27:21,240 Bring it on, I'm open for it, if you wanna attack somebody, 495 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,034 you can come and attack me." 496 00:27:23,034 --> 00:27:24,243 (screaming) 497 00:27:24,243 --> 00:27:31,127 498 00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:41,220 499 00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:43,346 To protect his mother from the evil spirits 500 00:27:43,346 --> 00:27:45,265 that had tormented her for years, 501 00:27:45,265 --> 00:27:47,726 Ed White challenged them to come after him. 502 00:27:47,726 --> 00:27:51,270 "Bring it on, I'm open for it, if you wanna attack somebody, 503 00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,064 you can come and attack me." 504 00:27:53,064 --> 00:27:56,610 It was an ultimatum he'd live to regret. 505 00:27:56,610 --> 00:28:01,280 506 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:07,329 (screaming in pain) 507 00:28:07,329 --> 00:28:10,624 He was being attacked, scratched. 508 00:28:10,624 --> 00:28:12,918 (groaning) 509 00:28:12,918 --> 00:28:15,294 510 00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:21,009 My back is covered, my ribs, my stomach, my chest. 511 00:28:21,009 --> 00:28:21,802 512 00:28:21,802 --> 00:28:25,223 They take months, sometimes years to heal up. 513 00:28:25,223 --> 00:28:29,185 514 00:28:29,185 --> 00:28:30,269 We had a nurse practitioners, 515 00:28:30,269 --> 00:28:33,605 she measured my arms and the scratches. 516 00:28:33,605 --> 00:28:36,315 And she said, "There's no way you could have made 517 00:28:36,315 --> 00:28:38,944 those scratches yourself on your back." 518 00:28:38,944 --> 00:28:40,987 "You're body ain't made to bend that way, 519 00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:44,323 so there's no way it could have been you." 520 00:28:45,243 --> 00:28:48,411 It's always in three's every time it happens. 521 00:28:48,703 --> 00:28:52,250 The pain is unbelievable, it goes with it. 522 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:54,876 You can't scream, you can't do nothin'. 523 00:28:55,752 --> 00:28:58,880 The theory is when you get three scratches 524 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,423 because they usually come in three's, 525 00:29:00,423 --> 00:29:04,511 that it is the entity's way of mocking the trinity. 526 00:29:04,511 --> 00:29:09,850 It's a matter of making you afraid and keeping you afraid, 527 00:29:09,850 --> 00:29:12,561 so you don't have the will to fight back. 528 00:29:12,561 --> 00:29:18,733 I can be in bed, I can be in !mom's room, I could be anywhere. 529 00:29:19,651 --> 00:29:25,364 I've known Ed and Karen for about five years. 530 00:29:25,574 --> 00:29:31,247 He's a kind gentle soul and we see him all the time. 531 00:29:31,247 --> 00:29:33,415 He was in my yard-- 532 00:29:33,915 --> 00:29:36,459 And he dropped right to his knees. 533 00:29:37,377 --> 00:29:39,378 (screaming in pain) 534 00:29:39,378 --> 00:29:42,632 We were talking away and then they saw my leg get red, 535 00:29:42,632 --> 00:29:45,010 they saw the scratches come and then they saw 536 00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:47,888 the blood just start gushing down the one leg. 537 00:29:47,888 --> 00:29:49,723 (screaming in pain) 538 00:29:49,723 --> 00:29:53,602 He had three fresh scratches on his leg. 539 00:29:53,602 --> 00:29:55,937 Deep red scratches. 540 00:29:55,937 --> 00:29:57,772 541 00:29:57,772 --> 00:29:59,108 I go, "What was that?" 542 00:29:59,108 --> 00:30:00,859 And he goes, "It got me again." 543 00:30:00,859 --> 00:30:02,320 And I go, "What do you mean?" 544 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,574 And he's like, "They're after me again, these demons." 545 00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:10,244 It was really weird. 546 00:30:10,244 --> 00:30:13,412 You'd have to see it to believe it. 547 00:30:15,291 --> 00:30:18,001 Karen: And the pizza man saw it too. 548 00:30:18,001 --> 00:30:20,754 549 00:30:20,754 --> 00:30:23,132 (groaning in pain) 550 00:30:23,132 --> 00:30:27,261 He saw his skin rip open, three on each side and he's just like, 551 00:30:27,261 --> 00:30:29,804 "Okay, let me get out of here, please." 552 00:30:29,804 --> 00:30:36,228 (groaning) 553 00:30:36,228 --> 00:30:41,440 To this day, Ed is still !being attacked by his tormentor. 554 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,945 Some people think you're crazy, you know, sometimes. 555 00:30:44,945 --> 00:30:46,905 556 00:30:46,905 --> 00:30:51,743 I worry about Ed because he just can't take it anymore. 557 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,082 The most frightening thing for me is the scratches on my body 558 00:30:57,082 --> 00:30:58,750 and if they're gonna get worse 559 00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:02,254 or if it's gonna even be taken to another level. 560 00:31:02,254 --> 00:31:05,715 561 00:31:05,715 --> 00:31:08,760 Whatever has been following me around, 562 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,471 there's gonna be no end to this. 563 00:31:11,471 --> 00:31:13,974 Ed and Karen are currently searching for someone 564 00:31:13,974 --> 00:31:18,396 who can rid Ed of his tormentor once and for all. 565 00:31:18,812 --> 00:31:22,233 Not all ghosts attacks result in physical assaults. 566 00:31:22,233 --> 00:31:23,482 567 00:31:23,482 --> 00:31:26,569 Some of the most terrifying can be when evil spirits try 568 00:31:26,569 --> 00:31:29,488 to take away our most precious things-- 569 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:32,368 570 00:31:32,368 --> 00:31:33,492 Our children. 571 00:31:35,494 --> 00:31:39,498 (typing) 572 00:31:40,167 --> 00:31:42,501 Story number 3 featuring Kristen. 573 00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:46,132 Take 1. 574 00:31:46,132 --> 00:31:50,010 575 00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:55,514 We were renting a town house and it was just a lot higher rent, 576 00:31:55,514 --> 00:31:59,311 so we moved into this house which was a little cheaper. 577 00:31:59,311 --> 00:32:04,899 We had a yard and just had all of the amenities that we wanted. 578 00:32:04,899 --> 00:32:06,526 579 00:32:06,526 --> 00:32:08,154 (phone ringing) 580 00:32:08,154 --> 00:32:10,364 After Kristen and her husband Ken moved in 581 00:32:10,364 --> 00:32:13,284 with their six year old daughter Becca-- 582 00:32:13,284 --> 00:32:14,701 583 00:32:14,701 --> 00:32:15,952 Tragedy struck. 584 00:32:15,952 --> 00:32:17,246 585 00:32:17,246 --> 00:32:19,831 Umm, my aunt committed suicide. 586 00:32:19,831 --> 00:32:24,295 She hung herself in her basement of her home. 587 00:32:25,544 --> 00:32:27,714 We're very close. 588 00:32:27,714 --> 00:32:28,547 Very close. 589 00:32:28,547 --> 00:32:29,258 What's wrong? 590 00:32:29,258 --> 00:32:32,551 I think she just had a lot of mental things going on. 591 00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:34,553 592 00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:36,223 At the funeral Kristen 593 00:32:36,223 --> 00:32:39,143 said goodbye to a much loved aunt forever. 594 00:32:39,143 --> 00:32:41,603 595 00:32:41,603 --> 00:32:43,230 Or so she thought. 596 00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:47,318 Just, you're a wreck after those things, you know? 597 00:32:48,610 --> 00:32:53,823 I get home, I was grieving and I was mad at her. 598 00:32:53,823 --> 00:32:55,742 I was severely mad. 599 00:32:57,702 --> 00:33:00,663 Umm, I hated her. 600 00:33:00,663 --> 00:33:04,583 And I remember just yelling at her. 601 00:33:04,751 --> 00:33:06,669 Why did you do this, why!? 602 00:33:06,669 --> 00:33:08,922 Just yelling and screaming at her 603 00:33:08,922 --> 00:33:13,635 because she was putting our entire family through something 604 00:33:13,635 --> 00:33:16,846 we should never have to go through. 605 00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:19,475 (glass smashes) 606 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,936 I told her she was weak. 607 00:33:22,936 --> 00:33:27,606 I told her that umm, I was ashamed of her. 608 00:33:27,606 --> 00:33:30,277 Umm, of course I'm screaming at this point at her. 609 00:33:30,277 --> 00:33:34,613 Told her that I hated her and that I would never forgive her. 610 00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:38,701 611 00:33:38,701 --> 00:33:40,287 I'm sorry. 612 00:33:40,412 --> 00:33:44,291 !But Kristen had no idea that by venting her anger and grief, 613 00:33:44,291 --> 00:33:47,626 she might have opened a pathway to the spirit world. 614 00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:53,592 Spirits and demons can appear more often in times of grief. 615 00:33:53,592 --> 00:33:56,678 When people are grieving it sometimes opens doors 616 00:33:56,678 --> 00:34:02,476 for other things to come in and prey on vulnerable. 617 00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:06,313 I was grieving severely. 618 00:34:06,313 --> 00:34:08,647 I was angry. 619 00:34:08,647 --> 00:34:09,648 I was hateful. 620 00:34:09,648 --> 00:34:10,692 (screaming) 621 00:34:10,692 --> 00:34:11,402 Why!? 622 00:34:11,402 --> 00:34:14,653 So yeah, I believe that quite possibly 623 00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:17,657 that I could've let something in at that point. 624 00:34:17,657 --> 00:34:19,535 625 00:34:19,535 --> 00:34:21,620 (stairs creaking) 626 00:34:22,621 --> 00:34:25,915 I remember one night it was probably about 11:30 627 00:34:25,915 --> 00:34:28,001 and I was flipping over laundry-- 628 00:34:28,001 --> 00:34:34,216 629 00:34:34,216 --> 00:34:38,637 And I felt something behind me. 630 00:34:38,637 --> 00:34:43,184 631 00:34:43,184 --> 00:34:46,604 And I turned and looked and there she was. 632 00:34:47,686 --> 00:34:49,148 (screaming) 633 00:34:49,148 --> 00:34:55,904 634 00:34:58,574 --> 00:35:05,830 635 00:35:05,830 --> 00:35:09,418 Overcome with grief after the tragic death of her aunt, 636 00:35:09,418 --> 00:35:11,629 Kristen Whitesell had unwittingly invited 637 00:35:11,629 --> 00:35:14,088 something unexpected in to her home. 638 00:35:14,088 --> 00:35:17,593 And I turned and looked and there she was. 639 00:35:18,717 --> 00:35:22,721 (screaming) 640 00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:23,932 641 00:35:23,932 --> 00:35:27,394 !I took off running up the stairs screaming and I turned around 642 00:35:27,394 --> 00:35:31,232 and my aunt was coming up the steps after me. 643 00:35:31,232 --> 00:35:32,731 (screaming) 644 00:35:32,731 --> 00:35:37,028 She looked completely different, demonic. 645 00:35:37,028 --> 00:35:39,989 You don't ever get that sight out of your head. 646 00:35:39,989 --> 00:35:42,243 And at first I thought I was going crazy. 647 00:35:42,243 --> 00:35:45,120 Like I thought I was wanting to see her so badly. 648 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,123 Umm, because I didn't get to say goodbye. 649 00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:52,752 When it first begins to happen, you kinda feel like, 650 00:35:52,752 --> 00:35:54,003 you're imagining all this. 651 00:35:54,003 --> 00:35:57,006 This isn't real, this isn't happening. 652 00:35:57,006 --> 00:35:59,968 And you just kinda go on. 653 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,762 Second time, you're kinda like, oh god. 654 00:36:03,762 --> 00:36:10,769 655 00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:13,772 (screaming) 656 00:36:13,772 --> 00:36:18,777 I would see her daily in different locations of the home. 657 00:36:18,777 --> 00:36:24,159 658 00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:27,371 Soon other strange activity started to happen 659 00:36:27,371 --> 00:36:28,787 around the house. 660 00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:33,752 My husband was working nights and umm, we were sitting 661 00:36:33,752 --> 00:36:39,508 in the living room and we heard bumping going on upstairs. 662 00:36:39,508 --> 00:36:40,800 (banging) 663 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,555 664 00:36:44,555 --> 00:36:45,347 (banging) 665 00:36:45,347 --> 00:36:48,475 I went upstairs and my bedroom door was open. 666 00:36:48,475 --> 00:36:51,645 667 00:36:51,645 --> 00:36:52,854 (door slams) 668 00:36:52,854 --> 00:36:56,483 (screaming)I heard a big boom and my bedroom door was closed. 669 00:36:56,483 --> 00:37:01,820 There was no drafts, there was no windows open or anything. 670 00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:05,117 I always felt like we were being watched. 671 00:37:05,326 --> 00:37:07,494 (stairs creaking) 672 00:37:07,494 --> 00:37:10,331 At night time you would hear noises downstairs 673 00:37:10,331 --> 00:37:13,167 in the basement like clanging. 674 00:37:13,167 --> 00:37:17,003 Go downstairs and off in the corner you would see a shadow 675 00:37:17,003 --> 00:37:18,087 in the corner. 676 00:37:18,087 --> 00:37:25,094 677 00:37:25,094 --> 00:37:27,723 It looked as though a man that was hunched over 678 00:37:27,723 --> 00:37:32,018 who was hovering and his back was turned to you. 679 00:37:34,313 --> 00:37:37,107 He scared me, he scared the crap out of me. 680 00:37:37,107 --> 00:37:40,486 Um, because he would never show me his face 681 00:37:40,486 --> 00:37:42,404 and he just stood there lurking. 682 00:37:42,404 --> 00:37:44,823 You don't know what they're capable of. 683 00:37:44,823 --> 00:37:46,825 You don't know if by interacting with them, 684 00:37:46,825 --> 00:37:51,372 if that's gonna put our family in danger, put them at risk. 685 00:37:51,372 --> 00:37:53,624 I felt like I was going crazy. 686 00:37:53,624 --> 00:37:58,128 !Until now the activity had been limited to manifestations-- 687 00:37:58,128 --> 00:37:59,003 688 00:37:59,003 --> 00:38:02,549 But that was about to change. 689 00:38:02,549 --> 00:38:03,091 (coughing) 690 00:38:03,091 --> 00:38:04,426 When it happened the first time, 691 00:38:04,426 --> 00:38:07,095 I remember waking up in the middle of the night. 692 00:38:07,095 --> 00:38:09,723 I would feel as though I was being choked 693 00:38:09,723 --> 00:38:12,934 !and it just felt like there was something that had it's hands 694 00:38:12,934 --> 00:38:15,229 around my neck and was holding me down 695 00:38:15,229 --> 00:38:17,731 and I couldn't yell out. 696 00:38:17,896 --> 00:38:19,817 I remember screaming in my dream 697 00:38:19,817 --> 00:38:22,403 and I remember yelling for my husband. 698 00:38:22,403 --> 00:38:25,864 Umm, but in all actuality, I wasn't. 699 00:38:25,864 --> 00:38:28,367 He never heard me, at all. 700 00:38:29,118 --> 00:38:29,908 (gasping for air) 701 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,830 It became a nightly thing. 702 00:38:32,830 --> 00:38:35,039 (coughing) 703 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,753 Spirits can physically attack an individual. 704 00:38:39,753 --> 00:38:44,341 If you're dealing with a more malevolent entity, the idea is 705 00:38:44,341 --> 00:38:49,221 to torment you and make you weak and to keep you that way. 706 00:38:49,221 --> 00:38:53,350 Malevolent energies want to be in control. 707 00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:58,730 And Kristen wasn't the only one in danger. 708 00:38:58,730 --> 00:39:04,820 709 00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:08,198 (bang) 710 00:39:08,198 --> 00:39:10,117 (creaking) 711 00:39:10,117 --> 00:39:15,954 712 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:18,417 (creaking) 713 00:39:18,417 --> 00:39:27,759 714 00:39:27,759 --> 00:39:31,555 The kids would tell us that they hear things and they saw things 715 00:39:31,555 --> 00:39:32,971 and that they felt things. 716 00:39:32,971 --> 00:39:34,973 Searching for answers, the couple discovered 717 00:39:34,973 --> 00:39:37,976 that the house was an old railway house-- 718 00:39:37,976 --> 00:39:38,812 719 00:39:38,812 --> 00:39:40,856 That had a secret past. 720 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:43,108 The house was built, it was a-- 721 00:39:43,108 --> 00:39:45,194 It was a slave home. 722 00:39:45,194 --> 00:39:48,697 And the upstairs was the masters quarters. 723 00:39:48,697 --> 00:39:51,825 Off of the sidewalls umm, there were little rooms 724 00:39:51,825 --> 00:39:53,992 and they were cubbyholes where the slaves would go 725 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:57,331 and hide when the masters were entertaining guests. 726 00:39:57,996 --> 00:40:00,041 Well you still had access from Rebecca's room 727 00:40:00,041 --> 00:40:03,879 into one of what was the slaves quarters. 728 00:40:03,879 --> 00:40:05,422 (creaking) 729 00:40:05,422 --> 00:40:11,093 730 00:40:11,093 --> 00:40:14,598 Becca would say that a man on fire would come out 731 00:40:14,598 --> 00:40:18,352 of that cubbyhole that used to be the slave quarters. 732 00:40:18,352 --> 00:40:20,018 733 00:40:20,018 --> 00:40:21,855 (creaking) 734 00:40:21,855 --> 00:40:24,983 735 00:40:24,983 --> 00:40:26,360 At first she kind of-- 736 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,154 She kind of made it sound like it was a dream. 737 00:40:29,154 --> 00:40:33,031 Umm, "Mom, there was a man in my room." 738 00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:34,576 739 00:40:34,576 --> 00:40:39,037 It started off he was coming only, maybe once a month. 740 00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:41,667 741 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:46,713 !And then it became two to three !times a week and then it became 742 00:40:46,713 --> 00:40:50,842 a nightly thing that he was coming to her. 743 00:40:50,842 --> 00:40:57,516 744 00:40:57,516 --> 00:41:00,058 He would encourage her to go with him. 745 00:41:00,058 --> 00:41:03,061 He wanted her and he was-- 746 00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:04,481 He was gonna get her. 747 00:41:04,481 --> 00:41:05,274 (screaming) 748 00:41:05,274 --> 00:41:06,858 (demonic laughter) 749 00:41:06,858 --> 00:41:13,156 750 00:41:15,534 --> 00:41:23,081 751 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:26,084 An apparition of a burning man was threatening to take 752 00:41:26,084 --> 00:41:28,755 Kristen Whitesell's daughter away with him. 753 00:41:28,755 --> 00:41:31,883 He wanted her and he was-- 754 00:41:31,883 --> 00:41:33,677 He was gonna get her. 755 00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:38,640 (demonic laughter) 756 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,851 (screaming) 757 00:41:40,851 --> 00:41:41,476 758 00:41:41,476 --> 00:41:43,353 It scared her pretty badly. 759 00:41:43,353 --> 00:41:44,771 Mom! 760 00:41:46,105 --> 00:41:51,153 Mom! Immediately as a mother you're going into protection mode. 761 00:41:51,153 --> 00:41:51,737 762 00:41:51,737 --> 00:41:55,365 Is he trying to take her soul like what's he trying to do? 763 00:41:55,365 --> 00:41:55,866 764 00:41:55,866 --> 00:42:00,329 And all I could think is, you're not taking mine. 765 00:42:00,329 --> 00:42:01,913 It's not happening. 766 00:42:01,913 --> 00:42:02,914 She's mine. 767 00:42:02,914 --> 00:42:05,042 And I told her, you tell him, "No. 768 00:42:05,042 --> 00:42:08,378 That you're not going anywhere, you stay right here. 769 00:42:08,378 --> 00:42:11,340 Umm, I can't protect you if you're gone." 770 00:42:12,007 --> 00:42:17,136 There's no greater fear than the fear, 771 00:42:17,136 --> 00:42:22,601 that your child isn't safe in their own home. 772 00:42:25,479 --> 00:42:27,606 Fearing for her family's safety, 773 00:42:27,606 --> 00:42:31,150 Kristen calls in paranormal investigators. 774 00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:32,903 775 00:42:32,903 --> 00:42:36,865 A lot of the times spirits can be attracted 776 00:42:36,865 --> 00:42:38,867 to loss or mourning. 777 00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:42,287 Demons can come around because they follow someone. 778 00:42:42,287 --> 00:42:46,165 A lot of negative energy can happen. 779 00:42:46,249 --> 00:42:47,334 (creaking) 780 00:42:47,334 --> 00:42:53,507 To get started we took in our EVP recorders, our K-2 meters 781 00:42:53,507 --> 00:42:56,968 and our DVR system at the time. 782 00:42:57,552 --> 00:43:02,099 My husband and Jeremy were downstairs in the basement. 783 00:43:02,099 --> 00:43:04,768 !Jeremy: We had motion detectors on every floor 784 00:43:04,768 --> 00:43:10,189 and from there we just began asking questions. 785 00:43:10,189 --> 00:43:11,233 "Who are you?" 786 00:43:11,233 --> 00:43:12,651 "What is your name?" 787 00:43:12,651 --> 00:43:14,153 "Why are you here?" 788 00:43:14,153 --> 00:43:22,077 789 00:43:22,077 --> 00:43:25,204 (growling) 790 00:43:25,204 --> 00:43:26,124 Did you hear that? 791 00:43:26,124 --> 00:43:30,919 All of the sudden, this real deep, nasty, maniacal man 792 00:43:30,919 --> 00:43:34,673 came over our EVP recorders just laughing at us. 793 00:43:34,673 --> 00:43:35,590 (demonic laughter) 794 00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:40,804 It was very overwhelming and kinda frightening. 795 00:43:40,804 --> 00:43:45,267 Voices umm, on the EVP's they were mocking my husband. 796 00:43:45,267 --> 00:43:46,518 Jeremy, are you there? 797 00:43:46,518 --> 00:43:48,104 Something's moving upstairs. 798 00:43:48,104 --> 00:43:50,229 Our motion detectors would go off 799 00:43:50,229 --> 00:43:52,607 and we'd go up to see what was causing it. 800 00:43:52,607 --> 00:43:56,235 And as soon as we went upstairs, the motion detector 801 00:43:56,235 --> 00:43:59,238 downstairs in the basement would go off. 802 00:43:59,238 --> 00:44:02,241 Like almost like it was playing games with us. 803 00:44:02,241 --> 00:44:03,618 Come in, come in, Jeremy. 804 00:44:03,618 --> 00:44:06,705 And all of the sudden we just see a shadow 805 00:44:06,705 --> 00:44:11,710 just go from the front door into where we are-- 806 00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:13,378 Did you hear that? 807 00:44:13,378 --> 00:44:14,213 Really fast. 808 00:44:14,213 --> 00:44:16,965 And you can edit this out, I remember him saying, 809 00:44:16,965 --> 00:44:19,258 his exact words, "Oh, (bleep)!" 810 00:44:19,258 --> 00:44:21,470 They did not stay in that basement very long. 811 00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:24,598 I don't think that their feet touched the stairs. 812 00:44:24,598 --> 00:44:29,187 He had to be scared, quite honestly, who wouldn't? 813 00:44:29,187 --> 00:44:30,269 814 00:44:30,269 --> 00:44:34,273 This investigation and client, to me, 815 00:44:34,273 --> 00:44:38,445 is one of the most active places I've been to. 816 00:44:38,445 --> 00:44:42,073 A part of me believes it's just negative spirits 817 00:44:42,073 --> 00:44:46,285 from the railroad days but another part of me believes 818 00:44:46,285 --> 00:44:48,663 that it could be demonic. 819 00:44:48,663 --> 00:44:50,332 820 00:44:50,332 --> 00:44:54,253 With the paranormal activity getting more intense Kristen 821 00:44:54,253 --> 00:44:57,296 and Ken decided to get the house cleansed. 822 00:44:57,296 --> 00:45:03,428 When we conducted the cleansing, we had two wiccans with us 823 00:45:03,428 --> 00:45:05,304 and they conducted the blessing 824 00:45:05,304 --> 00:45:08,683 and they went into every crack and cranny of that house 825 00:45:08,683 --> 00:45:12,312 with, uhh, salt and oils. 826 00:45:12,312 --> 00:45:15,314 827 00:45:15,314 --> 00:45:21,071 According to them, they were able to kick out 828 00:45:21,071 --> 00:45:23,532 the maniacal spirits. 829 00:45:23,532 --> 00:45:30,329 830 00:45:30,329 --> 00:45:33,583 !Although the house was cleansed, the family couldn't live 831 00:45:33,583 --> 00:45:36,628 with the memories of what they went through-- 832 00:45:36,878 --> 00:45:39,131 And decided to move. 833 00:45:40,048 --> 00:45:44,594 Kristen: You can't force a child to feel safe again. 834 00:45:44,594 --> 00:45:49,766 It definitely was the scariest period of my life. 835 00:45:49,766 --> 00:45:52,352 Umm, you're not in control. 836 00:45:52,352 --> 00:45:54,813 It's time to cut our ties and go. 837 00:45:54,813 --> 00:45:57,065 And my aunt had passed away and normally 838 00:45:57,065 --> 00:45:59,776 that's who I would go to, to talk to. 839 00:45:59,776 --> 00:46:01,027 And she wasn't there. 840 00:46:01,027 --> 00:46:04,906 It's hard to recover from something like that. 841 00:46:04,906 --> 00:46:09,203 842 00:46:09,203 --> 00:46:11,330 I-I'm never gonna go back there. 843 00:46:11,330 --> 00:46:15,167 I haven't been back and I don't ever plan on going back. 844 00:46:15,167 --> 00:46:20,339 64633

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