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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,067 --> 00:00:02,569 There's an evil entity, in the house. 2 00:00:02,602 --> 00:00:04,738 You are about to see, real people. 3 00:00:04,771 --> 00:00:07,007 I was terrified, beyond belief. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,177 Reliving horrifying, paranormal encounters, 5 00:00:11,211 --> 00:00:12,579 for the first time. 6 00:00:12,612 --> 00:00:15,515 I truly felt, it was like, living in hell. 7 00:00:15,548 --> 00:00:18,985 When skeptics become believers. 8 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:21,287 I always just thought it wasn't, it wasn't real. 9 00:00:21,321 --> 00:00:23,523 It was just fake, hocus pocus, stuff. 10 00:00:23,556 --> 00:00:26,526 I had a very myopic, black and white view of the world. 11 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:28,261 Now, I'm talking to dead people. 12 00:00:28,294 --> 00:00:29,629 (door slams) 13 00:00:29,662 --> 00:00:32,932 I buried this for nearly, thirty years. 14 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:34,934 Be prepared, to be afraid. 15 00:00:34,968 --> 00:00:43,510 ♪ 16 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:50,717 Marker. 17 00:00:57,524 --> 00:01:00,860 Before we purchased our house, in Bloomingdale. 18 00:01:00,894 --> 00:01:03,963 I was living in a small condo, with my husband. 19 00:01:03,997 --> 00:01:06,466 And, it was very small, and it was far away, 20 00:01:06,499 --> 00:01:08,635 from both of our jobs. 21 00:01:08,668 --> 00:01:14,307 So, we wanted to find a house that was closer to our jobs. 22 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:18,411 The first impression I got, was that, it was very eerie. 23 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:21,247 They had bushes that were overgrown in front, 24 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:23,083 the house needed a lot of work. 25 00:01:23,116 --> 00:01:26,619 I saw crumbling masonry work, in the front, in the back. 26 00:01:26,653 --> 00:01:30,156 The roof was old, the siding was old. 27 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:34,360 We walked into the inside, and it was just the eeriest house 28 00:01:34,394 --> 00:01:37,130 I think I'd ever seen, but I liked it. 29 00:01:37,163 --> 00:01:41,835 We did close on the house, in December 1997, 30 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:44,104 and I couldn't wait to get started on it 31 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:46,172 because the inside was so dreary. 32 00:01:46,206 --> 00:01:48,141 (creaking) 33 00:01:48,174 --> 00:01:49,676 It's just being in the house, 34 00:01:49,709 --> 00:01:51,478 there was just something different, 35 00:01:51,511 --> 00:01:53,513 I couldn't put my finger on it yet. 36 00:01:53,546 --> 00:01:55,482 (creaking continues) 37 00:01:55,515 --> 00:01:57,484 Of course, there was a lot of noises 38 00:01:57,517 --> 00:01:59,219 banging, dragging. 39 00:02:00,987 --> 00:02:03,289 I just chalked it up, it's an old house. 40 00:02:03,323 --> 00:02:04,858 There are gonna be noises. 41 00:02:04,891 --> 00:02:07,327 (floorboards creaking) 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,996 I'm very skeptical with saying, 43 00:02:10,029 --> 00:02:12,031 this noise doesn't make sense. 44 00:02:15,368 --> 00:02:18,204 Very shortly, after we moved in, 45 00:02:18,238 --> 00:02:22,308 I just started getting a really strange feeling, 46 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:23,576 that something wasn't right. 47 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:30,150 ♪ 48 00:02:30,183 --> 00:02:36,389 Every night I would go to sleep, and I would have this nightmare. 49 00:02:36,422 --> 00:02:43,263 ♪ 50 00:02:43,296 --> 00:02:45,098 I was in the house alone, 51 00:02:45,131 --> 00:02:47,767 and I had a very horrible feeling about it. 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,907 ♪ 53 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:56,776 I'd be at the top of the stairwell 54 00:02:56,809 --> 00:03:00,313 and I knew something very ominous was at the bottom. 55 00:03:00,346 --> 00:03:09,389 (eerie noises) 56 00:03:09,422 --> 00:03:12,392 And I would look at a shelf and something would fly off, 57 00:03:12,425 --> 00:03:16,162 ♪ 58 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:20,066 (glass shattering) 59 00:03:20,433 --> 00:03:29,309 (faint whispering) 60 00:03:29,342 --> 00:03:32,312 and I would see a shadow at the bottom of the stairs. 61 00:03:32,345 --> 00:03:34,981 It would start to move up, and I'd hear breathing. 62 00:03:35,014 --> 00:03:46,793 (slow breathing) 63 00:03:46,826 --> 00:03:49,395 You just felt as if you were gonna be killed, 64 00:03:49,429 --> 00:03:50,730 attacked, something. 65 00:03:50,763 --> 00:04:00,240 (breathing continues) 66 00:04:04,577 --> 00:04:06,913 And then, I would always wake up. 67 00:04:08,147 --> 00:04:10,250 And it turned out, I had that nightmare 68 00:04:10,283 --> 00:04:12,151 every night for months. 69 00:04:13,953 --> 00:04:17,090 I had told my husband, I don't even wanna go to sleep 70 00:04:17,123 --> 00:04:19,959 because I know I'm gonna have that dream. 71 00:04:19,993 --> 00:04:22,729 Patti had always been skeptical of the paranormal, 72 00:04:22,762 --> 00:04:24,497 but events in the house were beginning 73 00:04:24,530 --> 00:04:26,532 to convince her otherwise. 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,337 I went down to do laundry, and we have a big, 75 00:04:31,371 --> 00:04:33,973 the biggest container of laundry detergent. 76 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:39,479 And I did the laundry, put it back on the shelf, 77 00:04:39,512 --> 00:04:42,015 went back into the kitchen and when it was done, 78 00:04:45,051 --> 00:04:47,654 the laundry detergent wasn't on the shelf. 79 00:04:51,758 --> 00:04:53,993 I looked and it was sitting ten feet out 80 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:57,030 into the basement, upright. 81 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:03,936 I just tried to ignore it. 82 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:05,972 I picked it up, did the second load, 83 00:05:06,005 --> 00:05:07,573 put it back on the shelf. 84 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,176 When I came down the third time, 85 00:05:14,247 --> 00:05:17,150 it was right back out, in the basement again. 86 00:05:19,652 --> 00:05:22,488 That's probably the first time when I thought, 87 00:05:22,522 --> 00:05:26,426 it's almost like a mischievous child, playing tricks on me. 88 00:05:27,093 --> 00:05:28,661 There was something about that house. 89 00:05:28,695 --> 00:05:32,065 I had even said to my husband, you're going to think I'm crazy, 90 00:05:32,098 --> 00:05:33,599 I think this house is alive, 91 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:36,169 there's something about this house. 92 00:05:36,202 --> 00:05:38,738 I don't know what it is, but there is. 93 00:05:38,771 --> 00:05:42,108 He was just of the opinion, if you ignore it, 94 00:05:42,141 --> 00:05:44,344 it will go away. 95 00:05:44,377 --> 00:05:47,780 He believed my dreams were caused from anxiety, 96 00:05:47,814 --> 00:05:49,549 moving into a new house. 97 00:05:49,582 --> 00:05:54,821 He just didn't buy into it, and kinda turned a blind eye. 98 00:05:55,555 --> 00:06:00,059 I find that skeptics will gravitate to rationality 99 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:02,261 before anything else in their mind. 100 00:06:02,295 --> 00:06:04,864 They have convinced themselves that it can't be anything, 101 00:06:04,897 --> 00:06:06,499 other than something rational. 102 00:06:06,532 --> 00:06:09,569 So, they will take it that, oh, must have been this, 103 00:06:09,602 --> 00:06:16,075 or find any reason they can, to prove that it's not paranormal. 104 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:19,212 A few days later, I'm cleaning the house. 105 00:06:19,245 --> 00:06:23,449 We have French doors on our upper level, going to the deck. 106 00:06:27,954 --> 00:06:30,957 And, I see little hand prints on the bottom of the window. 107 00:06:33,126 --> 00:06:34,961 And I told my husband about it, 108 00:06:34,994 --> 00:06:38,531 he goes, oh, just forget about it. 109 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:40,833 A couple days later, I saw them on again. 110 00:06:40,867 --> 00:06:42,335 My husband was home I said, 111 00:06:42,368 --> 00:06:45,104 come here, I want you to tell me what you see. 112 00:06:45,138 --> 00:06:48,941 He looked and he goes, it looks like a child's hand print. 113 00:06:48,975 --> 00:06:58,484 ♪ 114 00:06:58,518 --> 00:07:00,953 One of the situations that scared me the most, 115 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:04,490 and I knew I had to find out, and get to bottom of it, 116 00:07:04,524 --> 00:07:06,426 again, happened in my room. 117 00:07:10,663 --> 00:07:13,266 (sinister whispering) 118 00:07:15,835 --> 00:07:20,540 (whispering continues) 119 00:07:22,975 --> 00:07:25,278 (creaking) 120 00:07:25,311 --> 00:07:31,684 ♪ 121 00:07:33,719 --> 00:07:42,228 ♪ 122 00:07:42,261 --> 00:07:44,964 Patti Haag started having terrifying dreams, 123 00:07:44,997 --> 00:07:48,367 as soon as she moved into her new home. 124 00:07:48,401 --> 00:07:50,837 But the nightmares started to become reality. 125 00:07:50,870 --> 00:08:02,014 ♪ 126 00:08:02,048 --> 00:08:04,817 (evil laughter) 127 00:08:08,387 --> 00:08:11,858 I dreamt of the child that I thought was in the house, 128 00:08:11,891 --> 00:08:13,893 and he bit me, in the arm. 129 00:08:13,926 --> 00:08:17,797 And I woke up I said, wow, that dream really hurt. 130 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:20,700 And when I was in the shower the next day, 131 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:23,202 there was, I was bitten. 132 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:25,204 Now, I couldn't fit that in my mouth. 133 00:08:25,238 --> 00:08:29,041 To put that bite mark, and it was a small mouth. 134 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:33,112 So, that dream was a dream, but it wasn't a dream. 135 00:08:33,145 --> 00:08:34,747 I can't explain that. 136 00:08:36,549 --> 00:08:38,951 It became more than a dream, when old friends, 137 00:08:38,985 --> 00:08:41,721 Rosanne and Jo came over to the house for a visit. 138 00:08:41,754 --> 00:08:43,089 She was with a gentlemen, 139 00:08:43,122 --> 00:08:47,393 and he was a big burly, 6'3 contractor. 140 00:08:48,761 --> 00:08:52,231 Roseanne had mentioned the apparition, 141 00:08:52,265 --> 00:08:55,868 and Joe started making fun of it. 142 00:08:55,902 --> 00:09:00,373 I had asked him not to do that, and he continued to do that. 143 00:09:00,406 --> 00:09:03,976 The next thing we knew, and I saw, and Roseanne saw it, 144 00:09:09,148 --> 00:09:13,085 the stool was yanked out from under him. 145 00:09:13,119 --> 00:09:14,620 He landed on the ground. 146 00:09:14,654 --> 00:09:16,889 So, of course we're like, Joe, are you ok? 147 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:21,260 He got up and started crying. 148 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:25,364 Started crying like a baby. 149 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,900 And he said Roseanne, we gotta go, we gotta go. 150 00:09:28,334 --> 00:09:30,636 Roseanne called me later, and said, 151 00:09:30,670 --> 00:09:33,506 Joe said there's something evil in that house. 152 00:09:33,539 --> 00:09:37,276 When I fell on the floor, something whispered in my ear, 153 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:41,647 Evil Voice: You are going to die tonight. 154 00:09:41,681 --> 00:09:43,783 You are going to die tonight. 155 00:09:43,816 --> 00:09:46,285 He goes, I'm never going back in that house again. 156 00:09:46,319 --> 00:09:47,520 And he never did. 157 00:09:49,855 --> 00:09:51,591 I just didn't know what to think. 158 00:09:51,624 --> 00:09:53,359 It can't be just my home. 159 00:09:53,392 --> 00:09:56,462 There's too much is happening, something happened around here. 160 00:09:56,495 --> 00:09:57,997 I don't know what it was. 161 00:09:58,030 --> 00:10:01,067 I met my neighbour, she was walking her dog, 162 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,636 I said, could I ask you a question? 163 00:10:03,669 --> 00:10:04,637 She goes, what? 164 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:05,871 What? 165 00:10:05,905 --> 00:10:09,709 I said, do you have anything strange going on in your house, 166 00:10:09,742 --> 00:10:10,743 that you can't explain? 167 00:10:10,776 --> 00:10:12,244 She goes, what do you mean? 168 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:15,514 I go, here we go, she's going to have me committed. 169 00:10:15,548 --> 00:10:17,016 And I just looked at her, 170 00:10:17,049 --> 00:10:18,584 I said, ghosts. 171 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:20,519 Her jaw drops. 172 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:23,556 She goes, I can't believe you said that. 173 00:10:23,589 --> 00:10:26,759 She goes, ever since I moved in, 174 00:10:26,792 --> 00:10:29,261 she's goes, things have been going on, in the house, 175 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:30,863 that I can't explain. 176 00:10:30,896 --> 00:10:32,898 It turns out, many people in that area, 177 00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:34,700 were having experiences. 178 00:10:34,734 --> 00:10:38,137 But my house, everybody seemed to point at my house, 179 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:40,973 and said, that's where it really, 180 00:10:41,007 --> 00:10:42,642 gets really strange. 181 00:10:42,675 --> 00:10:44,910 I had to get to the bottom of this. 182 00:10:44,944 --> 00:10:46,112 How to find out 183 00:10:46,145 --> 00:10:51,317 and I didn't even know paranormal groups existed. 184 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:54,920 When I googled hauntings in Bloomingdale, 185 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:57,990 I saw Mark's website. 186 00:10:58,024 --> 00:11:02,094 I first heard from Patty, back in February, 2008. 187 00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:04,964 And she was looking for us to come in, 188 00:11:04,997 --> 00:11:08,401 and perform a professional scientific investigation. 189 00:11:08,434 --> 00:11:12,071 (electronic beeping) 190 00:11:12,104 --> 00:11:15,741 Now, during this time we were doing audio recording, 191 00:11:15,775 --> 00:11:17,910 trying to capture EVP's, 192 00:11:17,943 --> 00:11:21,480 which stands for electronic voice phenomena. 193 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:24,483 Also, during the investigation, we had a video camera 194 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:28,421 with night vision, set up in the master bedroom, 195 00:11:28,454 --> 00:11:31,057 pointed at her dresser, where she felt like, 196 00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:32,992 she had seen things before. 197 00:11:33,592 --> 00:11:35,594 Patty was sitting on the bed nearby, 198 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:37,797 with one of our other investigators. 199 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:39,098 And really, I was talking, 200 00:11:39,131 --> 00:11:40,866 but no one was really getting anything. 201 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:44,470 But I looked at the dresser, and I saw a white, 202 00:11:44,503 --> 00:11:47,973 almost like a mist or a shadow, in front of the dresser. 203 00:11:54,180 --> 00:11:56,749 So, the camera man, the investigator, 204 00:11:56,782 --> 00:11:58,718 panned the camera around from the dresser 205 00:11:58,751 --> 00:12:00,986 to see if he could capture anything. 206 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:04,623 When he pans the camera to the left-- 207 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:12,465 ♪ 208 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:23,609 ♪ 209 00:12:23,642 --> 00:12:25,978 Evidence of the parnormal was becoming harder to ignore 210 00:12:26,011 --> 00:12:29,315 at Patty Haag's house, now a guest had been threatened. 211 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:33,652 Evil Voice: You are going to die tonight. 212 00:12:33,686 --> 00:12:35,488 Wanting answers, Patty had called in 213 00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:37,723 a Paranormal investigative team. 214 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:40,693 So the camera man, the investigator, 215 00:12:40,726 --> 00:12:42,762 panned the camera around from the dresser 216 00:12:42,795 --> 00:12:44,663 to see if he could capture anything. 217 00:12:44,864 --> 00:12:46,899 When he panned the camera to the left, 218 00:12:51,337 --> 00:12:52,972 All of sudden he captured, 219 00:12:53,005 --> 00:12:57,810 what looked like a head with no features. 220 00:12:57,843 --> 00:13:00,045 You can't see a face, or anything but, 221 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:02,615 it looked like a head, with a hairline. 222 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:09,488 And it had very dark hair, very dark hair. 223 00:13:09,522 --> 00:13:11,490 And you can't see features of the face. 224 00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:12,491 It's bizarre. 225 00:13:12,525 --> 00:13:15,060 It's-- you see the hair it's sticking in. 226 00:13:22,268 --> 00:13:26,005 And then after a second, it seems to realize 227 00:13:26,038 --> 00:13:27,373 it's being filmed. 228 00:13:27,406 --> 00:13:29,675 And it shhh, slides right out of the frame. 229 00:13:32,611 --> 00:13:38,050 Almost as if this child realized, and drew back. 230 00:13:38,083 --> 00:13:42,388 So, we were unable to explain that anomaly. 231 00:13:42,421 --> 00:13:46,058 We went back to the house, we recreated the conditions. 232 00:13:46,091 --> 00:13:49,495 We looked for reflections, we looked for anything 233 00:13:49,528 --> 00:13:52,231 that would've caused that anomaly. 234 00:13:52,264 --> 00:13:53,766 We could not recreate it. 235 00:13:58,938 --> 00:14:03,576 Now that we have technology, and the things that we use to show 236 00:14:03,609 --> 00:14:05,945 the existence of life after death. 237 00:14:05,978 --> 00:14:09,081 The power of a skeptic, has diminished. 238 00:14:09,114 --> 00:14:12,151 Their case is getting weaker and weaker. 239 00:14:12,184 --> 00:14:15,054 After the first investigation, Mark realized this is enough 240 00:14:15,087 --> 00:14:18,390 to peak interest in a second investigation. 241 00:14:18,424 --> 00:14:22,061 We felt that it was the land, that had the activity, 242 00:14:22,094 --> 00:14:25,064 more than Patti's house, alone. 243 00:14:25,097 --> 00:14:28,167 So, we made arrangements to bring in a ground penetrating 244 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,905 radar team, to scan that area to see what they could find. 245 00:14:32,938 --> 00:14:34,974 And the results were very interesting, 246 00:14:35,007 --> 00:14:40,880 cause the radar operator said, he found five areas of interest. 247 00:14:40,913 --> 00:14:45,751 And looking at the imagery, you can see the white spots found, 248 00:14:45,784 --> 00:14:48,254 that it was, in his opinion, that they could've been, 249 00:14:48,287 --> 00:14:50,456 human burials still underground. 250 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:57,229 It was our impression, that this could have been 251 00:14:57,263 --> 00:14:59,164 a Native American site. 252 00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:01,767 With circles, possibly, a medicine wheel, 253 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,536 or other types of ceremonial circle. 254 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:07,339 Using their religion, if it's possible, 255 00:15:07,373 --> 00:15:10,976 that if it was for ceremonial purposes, with the spirits, 256 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:13,646 that might account for some of the activity, 257 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:15,481 we were encountering in the area. 258 00:15:20,819 --> 00:15:26,625 Once Mark's team came in, and did their investigations, 259 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:31,363 activity did pick up, in the house, significantly. 260 00:15:31,397 --> 00:15:33,999 Where it almost appeared that now, 261 00:15:34,033 --> 00:15:37,903 it was taking a more malicious turn, for me. 262 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:42,942 (sinister whispering) 263 00:15:42,975 --> 00:15:49,481 (floorboards creaking) 264 00:15:50,349 --> 00:16:02,561 ♪ 265 00:16:02,594 --> 00:16:04,830 You just felt like you were gonna be attacked, 266 00:16:04,863 --> 00:16:07,433 you felt like you were gonna be murdered. 267 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:10,002 (child laughter) 268 00:16:10,035 --> 00:16:13,939 I was pushed down my oak stairwell. 269 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:19,945 I didn't lose my flight, all of a sudden I was airborne, 270 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:23,615 and I made a 90 degree turn, and landed in the hallway. 271 00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:29,088 (child laughing) 272 00:16:32,091 --> 00:16:35,894 And I knew, if I didn't leave that house, 273 00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:38,831 I wasn't gonna survive in that house. 274 00:16:38,864 --> 00:16:43,068 It would have been a disaster for me to stay in that home. 275 00:16:43,102 --> 00:16:47,239 So, when my husband got a new job down south, 276 00:16:47,272 --> 00:16:49,742 that was probably the happiest news, I had in years. 277 00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:52,745 I didn't care if we had to live in a tent somewhere, 278 00:16:52,778 --> 00:16:53,879 I honestly didn't. 279 00:16:53,912 --> 00:16:55,781 I would have been happy living in a tent, 280 00:16:55,814 --> 00:16:58,083 to get out of that house. 281 00:16:59,284 --> 00:17:03,355 The last stay of the house, I stood outside the door, 282 00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:07,926 I closed it, locked for the last time and got in my car. 283 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,664 I felt a lightness, that I haven't felt in years. 284 00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:16,468 I felt like a new person, a happy person. 285 00:17:17,336 --> 00:17:19,238 The house had finally convinced Patti 286 00:17:19,271 --> 00:17:21,073 that another plane existed, 287 00:17:21,106 --> 00:17:23,642 and it was too much for her to live with. 288 00:17:23,675 --> 00:17:26,612 It was that location, it stayed at that location. 289 00:17:26,645 --> 00:17:30,416 And now, I'm living in a place that is completely free 290 00:17:30,449 --> 00:17:33,485 of any kind of paranormal activity, 291 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:36,989 and I would never go back, ever. 292 00:17:38,824 --> 00:17:42,961 (child laughing) 293 00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:48,233 Skeptics of the paranormal, often demand scientific proof, 294 00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:50,903 before they will believe in the afterlife. 295 00:17:50,936 --> 00:17:53,472 But an intimate, first hand experience, 296 00:17:53,505 --> 00:17:56,141 can lead to a dramatic change of mind. 297 00:18:04,683 --> 00:18:14,693 ♪ 298 00:18:14,726 --> 00:18:20,399 ♪ 299 00:18:20,432 --> 00:18:22,701 So, we lived in Toronto for about, four years. 300 00:18:22,734 --> 00:18:25,370 We had a beautiful luxury condo on the lake, 301 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:27,639 and everyone thought, we had the best life going, 302 00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:29,408 but we just, we were really unhappy. 303 00:18:29,441 --> 00:18:31,176 And looking back, we were really unfulfilled. 304 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:33,846 Well, condo life for me, was a little bit difficult, 305 00:18:33,879 --> 00:18:36,315 because, we wanted to be closer to nature. 306 00:18:36,348 --> 00:18:39,485 We wanted to have more of a real connection, 307 00:18:39,518 --> 00:18:41,887 with, you know, the earth around us. 308 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,555 And, we weren't really feeling that, 309 00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:44,923 where we were living. 310 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:49,962 We went on the hunt for a house. 311 00:18:49,995 --> 00:18:51,964 And so I said to Jennifer, I said, 312 00:18:51,997 --> 00:18:54,233 let's go out to this place called Brantford, 313 00:18:54,266 --> 00:18:56,068 which I haven't even heard before. 314 00:18:56,101 --> 00:18:58,570 As we were getting closer, and closer to the house, 315 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:01,640 were getting more skeptical, because it was kinda like 316 00:19:01,673 --> 00:19:03,909 of sub division, we were driving through. 317 00:19:03,942 --> 00:19:06,712 And we pulled up to the little house on the hill, 318 00:19:06,745 --> 00:19:08,714 we both instantly fell in love with it. 319 00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:10,048 Everyone thought we were crazy. 320 00:19:10,082 --> 00:19:13,051 Derrell: It was a very stark contrast, 321 00:19:13,085 --> 00:19:16,121 to what we were living in, in Toronto. 322 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:21,293 And when we got here, we knocked on the door 323 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:27,599 and this older gentlemen came to the door. 324 00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:29,868 He was well into his 90's. 325 00:19:29,902 --> 00:19:31,637 He was actually, it was the owner, 326 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:33,739 the agent hadn't arrived yet. 327 00:19:33,772 --> 00:19:36,074 He said, oh, come on in, come on in. 328 00:19:37,976 --> 00:19:43,916 He was 94, and he wanted to interview everybody, 329 00:19:43,949 --> 00:19:46,418 who was interested in purchasing the property. 330 00:19:48,153 --> 00:19:50,656 See, he really wanted the property to stay intact. 331 00:19:50,689 --> 00:19:53,158 And he said, what are your plans for the house? 332 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,195 And I said, well Jack, I think it needs a paint job, 333 00:19:56,228 --> 00:19:57,262 to be honest. 334 00:19:57,296 --> 00:19:59,765 So, I think I might paint it, if you don't mind. 335 00:19:59,798 --> 00:20:02,834 And uh, he said, no that's fine. 336 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:06,772 Jack's wife died, when he was in his 70's, I believe. 337 00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:08,207 And he believed, 338 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,709 that he would probably, die soon after. 339 00:20:10,742 --> 00:20:14,479 He didn't expect to be here, as long as he was here for. 340 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:17,516 Jack took a liking to Jenn and Darrell, 341 00:20:17,549 --> 00:20:19,017 and sold them the house. 342 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,453 We moved in September 30th, of 2011. 343 00:20:22,254 --> 00:20:25,490 What we thought was a paint job, turned into a complete gut job. 344 00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:28,026 It was during the renovations, that Jenn and Darrell 345 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:30,262 began to notice strange things. 346 00:20:31,196 --> 00:20:33,999 Paintbrushes would go missing, keys would go missing. 347 00:20:34,032 --> 00:20:35,767 I had a book that went missing. 348 00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:37,769 If we lived in a really big house, 349 00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:40,038 I think it would be easier to kind of, 350 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,540 but our house is very small. 351 00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:44,309 So, how far can something travel. 352 00:20:44,343 --> 00:20:47,112 When their complicated renovation was taking place, 353 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:49,147 what was supposed to be the easy job, 354 00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:50,749 became the most baffling. 355 00:20:50,782 --> 00:20:52,517 And there was one particular paint colour, 356 00:20:52,551 --> 00:20:55,354 that Darrell would put on, and the paint would not stick. 357 00:20:55,387 --> 00:20:56,588 It just, wouldn't stick. 358 00:20:56,622 --> 00:20:58,924 And it would fall off, it would clump off, 359 00:20:58,957 --> 00:20:59,925 it would drip off. 360 00:20:59,958 --> 00:21:01,426 And we thought, what the heck? 361 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:03,695 So, we took it back to the paint company. 362 00:21:03,729 --> 00:21:05,497 The paint company, said the paint's fine. 363 00:21:05,530 --> 00:21:07,532 I don't know what your problem is. 364 00:21:10,602 --> 00:21:12,571 So, Darrell thought, so maybe, he just thought, 365 00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:14,573 you know, something just came to his head, 366 00:21:14,606 --> 00:21:15,841 let's try a different colour. 367 00:21:15,874 --> 00:21:17,609 He got the same paint, different colour, 368 00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:19,378 put it on, it went on perfectly. 369 00:21:19,411 --> 00:21:22,147 So, we joke about the fact that Jack's wife was like, 370 00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:24,416 I'm not having that colour paint in my house. 371 00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:25,917 Although, happy to joke about it, 372 00:21:25,951 --> 00:21:28,086 the couple were skeptic that anything otherworldly 373 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,088 was actually happening in their home. 374 00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:34,593 A lot of times, when a family moves into a house, 375 00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:35,894 they'll do renovations. 376 00:21:35,927 --> 00:21:38,563 They'll fix things, they'll, they'll change things. 377 00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:40,932 A spirit that has been there for many years, 378 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,434 they're used to a certain thing. 379 00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:45,070 They're used to a certain way, that their house was. 380 00:21:45,103 --> 00:21:48,073 If you go there, and try to create things and do things, 381 00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:50,575 they take offense to that like, hey you know what, 382 00:21:50,609 --> 00:21:52,344 I was here many years before you. 383 00:21:52,377 --> 00:21:53,612 You're not gonna change this. 384 00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:57,115 And if you are, I'm gonna make it difficult for you to do so. 385 00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:58,884 Darrel had never believed in anything paranormal. 386 00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:00,185 I've always been a skeptic. 387 00:22:00,218 --> 00:22:02,688 I guess, I would need to see evidence of that, 388 00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:03,755 to believe that. 389 00:22:03,789 --> 00:22:06,625 During all the construction, and all the chaos, 390 00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:09,394 Charley, my little dog, he and I were the first two 391 00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,063 to move into the house. 392 00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:16,468 (faint whispering) 393 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,236 There are times where, he'll just like, 394 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:20,238 for example, he'll be in the living room, 395 00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:22,040 and he'll go out into the kitchen, 396 00:22:22,074 --> 00:22:24,976 and he'll just stare and stare and stare and stare. 397 00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:26,011 And you're thinking, 398 00:22:26,044 --> 00:22:29,114 (whispering) 399 00:22:29,147 --> 00:22:31,383 you're not staring at food, you're not staring water. 400 00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:33,151 You're just kinda, staring into the room, 401 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:35,153 and your thinking, why are you doing that? 402 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:42,194 (whispering continues) 403 00:22:42,227 --> 00:22:44,996 You can tell he's looking, like he's watching something 404 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:46,798 and you kinda put your head around, 405 00:22:46,832 --> 00:22:48,834 to see if you could see something too. 406 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:50,602 You know, but I don't see anything. 407 00:22:50,635 --> 00:22:58,043 (whispering) 408 00:22:58,076 --> 00:22:59,144 He must see something, 409 00:22:59,177 --> 00:23:01,446 because I don't think he would stand 410 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,017 and just stare for so long, at nothing. 411 00:23:06,051 --> 00:23:09,287 (barking) 412 00:23:09,321 --> 00:23:13,291 So, that's kind of strange, yeah. 413 00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:16,361 But, it was Jenn's experiences, that would truly turn a skeptic, 414 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:17,729 into a believer. 415 00:23:18,497 --> 00:23:20,732 It just smelled like baking, like I'd wake up, 416 00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:23,001 and you know, Darrell doesn't cook or bake. 417 00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:24,503 It sort of smell the oven 418 00:23:24,536 --> 00:23:26,104 and oh, someone's been baking vanilla. 419 00:23:26,138 --> 00:23:28,240 You know, that distinct smell of vanilla. 420 00:23:28,273 --> 00:23:30,742 And sometimes a very distinct smell, of like apple pie. 421 00:23:30,776 --> 00:23:32,911 I was like, oh, it smells so good. 422 00:23:34,646 --> 00:23:36,481 And, there would be nothing there. 423 00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:38,517 There was nothing that could've made that smell. 424 00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:40,285 You just sort of shake your head, 425 00:23:40,318 --> 00:23:41,553 and go ok, you know? 426 00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:44,423 And I was still adjusting, to living in the country. 427 00:23:44,456 --> 00:23:47,192 And I heard the cupboards, and again at first I thought, 428 00:23:47,225 --> 00:23:52,030 it was mice or whatever, cause the house is being renovated. 429 00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:57,769 ♪ 430 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:09,414 ♪ 431 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,184 Darrel and Jenn White, fell in love with their little house 432 00:24:12,217 --> 00:24:13,552 on the hill. 433 00:24:13,585 --> 00:24:17,122 But after promising the previous owner they wouldn't renovate, 434 00:24:17,155 --> 00:24:18,990 they decided to do just that. 435 00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:23,094 I heard the cupboards, and again at first I thought, 436 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,964 it was mice or whatever, cause the house is being renovated. 437 00:24:25,997 --> 00:24:27,933 (creaking) 438 00:24:34,906 --> 00:24:36,875 And there she was, standing facing the stove, 439 00:24:36,908 --> 00:24:42,581 (humming) 440 00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:45,517 you know, a 3D woman at the counter, 441 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:49,120 sort of humming to herself, preparing something. 442 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:54,292 ♪ 443 00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:57,062 And when I sort of squinted and looked little bit closer, 444 00:24:57,095 --> 00:24:59,064 I could see she was sorta filmy, smoky, 445 00:24:59,097 --> 00:25:01,566 sort of that iconic, what a ghost would look like 446 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,534 type of thing. 447 00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:04,636 But she was there, I knew the hair colour. 448 00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:06,304 She had these beautiful green eyes. 449 00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:07,739 I could see the figures. 450 00:25:07,772 --> 00:25:15,847 ♪ 451 00:25:15,881 --> 00:25:16,982 I saw a ghost. 452 00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:24,289 Everybody has a different reaction to seeing a spirit, 453 00:25:24,322 --> 00:25:25,824 when they first see them. 454 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:28,527 Obviously, the first thing you do, is you're scared. 455 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,663 I don't necessarily think it's something that you have to fear, 456 00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:35,567 but I think you have to essentially take note, 457 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,737 as to why it keeps appearing to you. 458 00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:40,338 Maybe do a little research, 459 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,774 maybe, find a little bit about that property. 460 00:25:42,807 --> 00:25:44,476 Did anybody die in that house? 461 00:25:44,509 --> 00:25:47,479 Um, is there any relatives that look remotely close, 462 00:25:47,512 --> 00:25:48,647 to what you're seeing? 463 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,149 And then kinda, do your own investigations. 464 00:25:51,182 --> 00:25:52,684 I wanted to authenticate my experiences, 465 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,686 and make sure that it wasn't, you know, 466 00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:56,087 all in my head. 467 00:25:56,121 --> 00:25:58,957 I just knew when I said, I saw this woman in my house, 468 00:25:58,990 --> 00:26:01,459 I thought, oh my god, they're gonna think I'm crazy, 469 00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:03,361 They're gonna go, these crazy city people 470 00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:04,863 have had too much country air. 471 00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:06,364 I reach out to the neighbours, 472 00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:09,134 I say, I think I got a ghost in the house, 473 00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:10,635 I described her, that's Jack's wife. 474 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:12,637 They said, you described her to a tee. 475 00:26:12,671 --> 00:26:14,139 Someone took out the photo album, 476 00:26:14,172 --> 00:26:15,674 and I'm like, ok. 477 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:20,912 That was Jack's wife, that was the woman. 478 00:26:20,946 --> 00:26:23,515 I recognized her, that's what she looked like. 479 00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:28,954 I found out that Jack's wife, quite tragically, had a stroke, 480 00:26:28,987 --> 00:26:30,922 or any aneurysm one night. 481 00:26:30,956 --> 00:26:32,924 Jack was watching hockey, about 25 years ago, 482 00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:34,726 and she said, I wasn't feeling well. 483 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,495 She got up to go lie down, and she dropped dead, 484 00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:40,198 between here and the back bedroom. 485 00:26:41,499 --> 00:26:44,202 Apparently, she was a prolific baker. 486 00:26:45,236 --> 00:26:48,039 So, that was a really big water shed moment for me, 487 00:26:48,073 --> 00:26:50,175 that yeah, I'm living with something. 488 00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:51,977 My life is about to change. 489 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,979 As soon as I started to admit it, 490 00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:57,015 then it started to get exponentially more frequent 491 00:26:57,048 --> 00:26:58,116 and powerful. 492 00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:59,351 (slamming) 493 00:26:59,384 --> 00:27:01,419 The cupboard doors would slam, and I would be in bed like, 494 00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:03,421 Darrell knock it off, and he'd be like, 495 00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:05,757 I'm not anywhere near them. 496 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:17,302 ♪ 497 00:27:17,335 --> 00:27:19,070 She turned around, and looked at me, 498 00:27:19,104 --> 00:27:21,106 kinda smiled at me, and vanished. 499 00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:27,646 Ok this is, this is real, this is happening. 500 00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:32,684 The neighbour Janet, had let me know that Jack had passed. 501 00:27:32,717 --> 00:27:34,786 And then it was about two days later, 502 00:27:34,819 --> 00:27:36,554 that the kids had called and said, 503 00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:40,058 would it be ok with him being scattered out back. 504 00:27:40,091 --> 00:27:47,699 ♪ 505 00:27:47,732 --> 00:27:49,968 So, they came back here and scattered his ashes, 506 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,071 back in the woods, where he was most happy. 507 00:27:57,442 --> 00:28:00,812 With Jack's death, a new wave of paranormal events started. 508 00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:01,980 When we'd moved in, 509 00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:03,448 they'd cleaned pretty much everything out. 510 00:28:03,481 --> 00:28:06,317 But, there was this one chair that was down in the basement, 511 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,153 the neighbours said, that was Jack's chair. 512 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,689 It was a wooden chair, that he always sat on, 513 00:28:10,722 --> 00:28:12,190 and watched the world go by. 514 00:28:12,223 --> 00:28:13,191 I thought, it's ugly. 515 00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,693 I tossed it in the garage. 516 00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:17,195 I thought, next garbage day, I'll get rid of it. 517 00:28:17,228 --> 00:28:18,963 And it would re-appear in the house. 518 00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:20,732 We would find it in the basement, 519 00:28:20,765 --> 00:28:23,635 or it would go back to where he used to sit. 520 00:28:23,668 --> 00:28:26,404 Why's that chair out in the middle of the back yard. 521 00:28:26,438 --> 00:28:29,107 He's like, I didn't put it there. 522 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:31,409 Jenn found that once she had opened her mind 523 00:28:31,443 --> 00:28:32,811 to the paranormal, 524 00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:35,280 her experiences became more powerful. 525 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:38,283 I went out for a walk, and I took the dog, 526 00:28:38,316 --> 00:28:40,285 and the dog started barking his head off. 527 00:28:40,318 --> 00:28:49,594 (dog barking in the distance) 528 00:28:49,627 --> 00:28:52,230 Barking, barking, barking, then he started staring at the hill. 529 00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:56,367 So, I turned my head and looked up the hill. 530 00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:05,577 There standing, there. 531 00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:07,912 I'll never forget it, because I can still see his eyes, 532 00:29:07,946 --> 00:29:08,780 was Jack, 533 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:12,917 just standing there, content, 534 00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:15,253 in this like, lumberjack plaid jacket, 535 00:29:15,286 --> 00:29:18,089 that apparently, was sort of common and typical for him. 536 00:29:23,528 --> 00:29:26,364 He was there sort of, in this fuzzy, 537 00:29:26,397 --> 00:29:28,533 kinda of foggy state, but very 3D, 538 00:29:28,566 --> 00:29:31,703 very much alive, very much identifiable, as Jack. 539 00:29:31,736 --> 00:29:34,405 No, it wasn't a shadow or a passing image, 540 00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:35,673 it was Jack, standing there. 541 00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:37,942 So I said to him, hey Jack, you know, 542 00:29:37,976 --> 00:29:39,811 I'm so glad that all is good. 543 00:29:39,844 --> 00:29:42,347 I promise you, we're taking great care of the house, 544 00:29:48,653 --> 00:29:51,956 and then he vanished, and then we continued on with our walk. 545 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:55,927 So, it was a really interesting and unique experience. 546 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,731 A paranormal encountered changes many lives everyday. 547 00:29:59,764 --> 00:30:03,668 A lot of it has to do with the acceptance of knowing, 548 00:30:03,701 --> 00:30:09,507 that something is there, that is not supposed to be. 549 00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:12,811 So, I was that typical Anglo-Saxon protestant, 550 00:30:12,844 --> 00:30:15,547 conservative person, who had a great job. 551 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:18,850 I'd have a very myopic, black and white view of the world. 552 00:30:18,883 --> 00:30:20,919 Now I'm talking to dead people. 553 00:30:20,952 --> 00:30:22,921 All of a sudden, I accept and respect, 554 00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:25,690 that there's a whole lot out there, that we don't understand. 555 00:30:25,723 --> 00:30:27,992 Once you know that there is life after death, 556 00:30:28,026 --> 00:30:29,994 you may treat your life a lot differently. 557 00:30:30,028 --> 00:30:32,997 You may live it differently, you may not take it for granted 558 00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:36,100 to know that in a split second in time, 559 00:30:36,134 --> 00:30:38,636 you could be in the same altered state. 560 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,605 There's good advantages that come out 561 00:30:40,638 --> 00:30:41,873 of the paranormal encounter, 562 00:30:41,906 --> 00:30:45,143 and a lot of it is to appreciate life as you know it, 563 00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:46,411 while you're alive. 564 00:30:46,444 --> 00:30:49,013 Since Jack's passed, I haven't seen her, which is interesting. 565 00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:51,282 When Jack's passed, I have not seen her since. 566 00:30:51,316 --> 00:30:53,284 I haven't smelt her, I haven't seen her, 567 00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:54,452 nothing. 568 00:30:54,485 --> 00:30:55,954 And I think because she died so suddenly, 569 00:30:55,987 --> 00:30:58,223 and Jack stayed for so long, that I'm convinced, 570 00:30:58,256 --> 00:31:00,725 that she was here the whole time Jack was. 571 00:31:00,758 --> 00:31:03,494 Joe: A relationship between husband and wife, 572 00:31:03,528 --> 00:31:06,898 that maybe the marriage lasted thirty years, 573 00:31:06,931 --> 00:31:08,900 you don't wanna be away from your partner. 574 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:12,837 So, there are spirits who will hang around and wait for that, 575 00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:16,441 and two can live a life together, 576 00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:17,742 in the afterlife. 577 00:31:17,775 --> 00:31:20,011 We still call it Jack's house, and Jack's property. 578 00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:22,180 We've been here four years, 579 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,049 and I don't think we'll ever stop calling it Jack's house. 580 00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:28,920 As a skeptic dealing with the paranormal, 581 00:31:28,953 --> 00:31:31,356 there comes a point where rational explanations, 582 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:33,191 just won't cut it. 583 00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:36,261 When the paranormal becomes a physical threat, 584 00:31:36,294 --> 00:31:38,963 you have no choice but to believe. 585 00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:51,209 Story 26. Greg. Take 1. Marker. 586 00:31:55,146 --> 00:31:58,917 Story 26. Danielle. Take 4. Marker. 587 00:32:05,156 --> 00:32:07,258 I've never had any encounters before. 588 00:32:07,292 --> 00:32:10,628 Um, never really thought about it, before. 589 00:32:10,662 --> 00:32:13,798 And just something that, you know, 590 00:32:13,831 --> 00:32:15,733 I always just thought, wasn't real. 591 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:18,503 Just fake, hocus pocus stuff. 592 00:32:18,536 --> 00:32:21,506 I met Greg through MySpace. 593 00:32:21,539 --> 00:32:25,176 She thought that I was cute, so we started talking. 594 00:32:25,209 --> 00:32:28,947 I have three children, Grant, Donan and Emily. 595 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:32,650 They fell in love with Greg, and so did I. 596 00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:36,888 In December of 08', Greg opened his home to us. 597 00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,392 It was a kinda of a rundown building, 598 00:32:41,426 --> 00:32:45,396 but it was cheap rent, and it served its purpose. 599 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,099 Her and her daughter Emily, came up on the bus 600 00:32:48,132 --> 00:32:50,068 and started unpacking stuff. 601 00:32:50,101 --> 00:32:52,971 She was like, you know, I can rearrange your house now, 602 00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:54,973 now make it the way I want to. 603 00:32:55,006 --> 00:32:58,509 I didn't have a lot of stuff, I was used to the military life. 604 00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:00,278 You know, with being in the military, 605 00:33:00,311 --> 00:33:04,282 you minimize everything, and with Danielle, 606 00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:07,952 it brightened it up a little bit more. 607 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:13,057 There was more colours, more flowery stuff, 608 00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:15,093 you know, a woman's touch. 609 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:17,595 It made it a lot better. 610 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,567 But, this good feeling would not last long. 611 00:33:24,535 --> 00:33:26,604 It was just the little things at first. 612 00:33:33,411 --> 00:33:36,347 We wanted to go out to dinner or something like that. 613 00:33:36,381 --> 00:33:38,683 Ok, time to grab the keys. 614 00:33:41,652 --> 00:33:45,056 Walk over, went to grab for them, and there not there. 615 00:33:47,058 --> 00:33:49,060 And that's like, ok, who's got they keys? 616 00:33:49,093 --> 00:33:50,495 No one's got the keys. 617 00:33:51,162 --> 00:33:53,197 You search, and you search and you search. 618 00:33:58,436 --> 00:34:00,204 They keys are nowhere to be found. 619 00:34:02,673 --> 00:34:04,475 You go back to the first location, 620 00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:06,210 where you first looked for them, 621 00:34:09,781 --> 00:34:10,715 There's the keys. 622 00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:14,218 Like no way, there's no way those keys could be there. 623 00:34:14,252 --> 00:34:15,386 Couldn't explain it. 624 00:34:16,621 --> 00:34:22,427 Spirits will move things, if they know that it bothers you, 625 00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:23,728 intimidates you. 626 00:34:23,761 --> 00:34:25,797 Sometimes, they'll play games, 627 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:27,131 they'll take the smaller objects, 628 00:34:27,165 --> 00:34:30,435 because it takes less energy to move those things. 629 00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:32,437 And sometimes, they could be sending a message. 630 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:34,472 It's hard to really tell, with them, 631 00:34:34,505 --> 00:34:38,042 because there are a lot of them, that are tricksters. 632 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,012 One time, um we were sitting down, 633 00:34:41,045 --> 00:34:42,780 and having cookies and milk. 634 00:34:43,614 --> 00:34:46,017 Danielle: Emily told me, she goes, 635 00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:49,387 Mommy, I have this friend named Michael. 636 00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:51,122 He likes to play with me. 637 00:34:51,155 --> 00:34:53,024 And I said, well, that's nice honey, 638 00:34:53,057 --> 00:34:56,561 would you like to share cookies and milk with Michael? 639 00:34:56,594 --> 00:34:57,462 She goes, yeah. 640 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:06,504 And all of sudden, you just see the glass moves like six inches. 641 00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:14,245 Six inches to an empty space. 642 00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,347 This empty space, beside Emily. 643 00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:20,485 What do you say when that happens? 644 00:35:20,518 --> 00:35:23,821 You know, there's, there's no good reason for something 645 00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:27,291 like that to happen, especially when she just got down saying, 646 00:35:27,325 --> 00:35:29,827 go ahead share your cookies and milk with him. 647 00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:35,299 It wouldn't take long before the paranormal, became more real. 648 00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:41,706 A couple days later, I had another experience myself, 649 00:35:41,739 --> 00:35:45,943 (creaking) 650 00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:51,149 (faint whispering) 651 00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:56,954 and all of a sudden something grabbed the back of my leg. 652 00:35:56,988 --> 00:36:04,896 ♪ 653 00:36:07,398 --> 00:36:15,706 ♪ 654 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:18,342 Greg and Danielle Koch, had begun to experience 655 00:36:18,376 --> 00:36:20,645 strange phenomena in their home, 656 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:23,581 but were reluctant to believe it could be paranormal. 657 00:36:24,115 --> 00:36:27,451 The activity was about to get more extreme. 658 00:36:27,485 --> 00:36:31,022 All of a sudden, something grabbed the back of my leg. 659 00:36:32,723 --> 00:36:33,858 And yanked me. 660 00:36:41,432 --> 00:36:43,367 I have never felt this before. 661 00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:46,437 It felt like they were trying to pull me off the bed. 662 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:03,087 My whole world just got rocked. 663 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,691 I turned around, looked back and there was nothing there, 664 00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:10,061 and I looked at my leg where I got grabbed at, 665 00:37:10,094 --> 00:37:14,465 and I could see the hairs, kinda like standing back up 666 00:37:14,498 --> 00:37:16,467 off of like, if they were like, condensed 667 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,302 from where somebody grabbed me. 668 00:37:18,836 --> 00:37:22,340 It felt like a grown man trying to trick me off the bed. 669 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:28,679 I have never had anything so physical, 670 00:37:28,713 --> 00:37:32,216 happen to me like that before, 671 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,118 I'll, that's something I'll never forget. 672 00:37:35,353 --> 00:37:37,355 Greg started to rethink their choice 673 00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:39,457 to raise children in the house. 674 00:37:40,124 --> 00:37:42,326 Cause if it could move me that much, 675 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,128 you know, what else could it do. 676 00:37:44,161 --> 00:37:46,030 Finally we're like, ok, you know something, 677 00:37:46,063 --> 00:37:47,531 something's going on here. 678 00:37:47,565 --> 00:37:49,700 We had contacted the landlord, explaining to her, 679 00:37:49,734 --> 00:37:52,136 that we couldn't stay there anymore. 680 00:37:52,169 --> 00:37:54,538 And um, she was pretty understanding. 681 00:37:54,572 --> 00:37:56,674 She was like, I can understand, 682 00:37:56,707 --> 00:37:58,476 you know, this isn't the first time 683 00:37:58,509 --> 00:38:00,244 we've had people move out in the 684 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:01,746 middle of the month, you know, 685 00:38:01,779 --> 00:38:03,748 as quickly as you want to move out. 686 00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:08,219 It felt like a relief was off my shoulders, 687 00:38:08,252 --> 00:38:10,755 to be moving away from that place. 688 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,327 We made the move to Tidioute. 689 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,429 Um, the house was three times as big, 690 00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:20,197 as the place where we were in. 691 00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:21,699 So, we were loving in it. 692 00:38:21,732 --> 00:38:25,503 It was a really nice house, two floors, big yard. 693 00:38:25,536 --> 00:38:27,805 So, we were really happy with it, 694 00:38:27,838 --> 00:38:30,441 and it was only two blocks down from the school, 695 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:31,976 Emily would be going to. 696 00:38:32,009 --> 00:38:34,745 Um, we moved in July, beautiful weather. 697 00:38:34,779 --> 00:38:36,280 The neigbours were real nice. 698 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,549 They came out, helped me move the stuff in. 699 00:38:38,582 --> 00:38:41,218 I really did think, the everything was left behind. 700 00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:45,623 And we started having the experiences at the house, 701 00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:46,991 that we we're at now. 702 00:38:50,528 --> 00:38:52,830 Started hearing like, walking across the ceiling, 703 00:38:52,863 --> 00:38:55,633 and It's like, ok, we know nobody's up there. 704 00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:57,535 (creaking) 705 00:38:57,568 --> 00:38:59,670 You know, we'd hear footsteps again 706 00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:01,238 So, I'd run up there. 707 00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:02,540 (creaking) 708 00:39:02,573 --> 00:39:06,744 (whispering) 709 00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:15,920 There's nobody there. 710 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,022 I'd go back downstairs again. 711 00:39:24,895 --> 00:39:29,166 (floorboards creaking) 712 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,869 You know, you could hear em' walking down the stairs. 713 00:39:31,902 --> 00:39:34,071 You know, thump, thump, thump, thump. 714 00:39:34,105 --> 00:39:38,008 It just sounds like, a heavy guy walking back and forth. 715 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:39,377 I'd run up there again. 716 00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:40,945 You know, just to make sure. 717 00:39:50,087 --> 00:39:51,422 There's nobody up there. 718 00:39:53,023 --> 00:39:54,425 It is very creepy feeling. 719 00:39:55,926 --> 00:39:58,562 Maybe a house settling, you hear a creaking, 720 00:39:58,596 --> 00:39:59,764 but maybe a spirit, 721 00:39:59,797 --> 00:40:01,165 When you're dealing with sounds, 722 00:40:01,198 --> 00:40:03,100 its gonna be more profound. 723 00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:06,504 Spirits will violently walk and the whole house will shake. 724 00:40:06,537 --> 00:40:08,005 That's when you start to think, 725 00:40:08,038 --> 00:40:11,308 ok, maybe that's much more than just a house settling. 726 00:40:14,445 --> 00:40:17,548 We'd come back, you know, from dinner or something like that. 727 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:23,020 It seems like every cupboard in the whole place, 728 00:40:23,053 --> 00:40:24,021 was wide open. 729 00:40:33,964 --> 00:40:35,800 Nothing was really disturbed in the house, 730 00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:38,736 besides the cupboards doors. 731 00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:42,440 There's no cans out of place, anything missing, 732 00:40:42,473 --> 00:40:45,009 like somebody would've ran sacked the place. 733 00:40:45,042 --> 00:40:47,678 Its just every cupboard was open. 734 00:40:48,512 --> 00:40:50,848 I was like, here we go again, you know? 735 00:40:50,881 --> 00:40:52,850 I was like, the last place was quiet, 736 00:40:52,883 --> 00:40:55,553 now we have something going on here. 737 00:40:55,586 --> 00:40:57,721 And then Danielle, you know, was like, 738 00:40:57,755 --> 00:41:01,192 I really hope nothing's kinda, following me. 739 00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:03,761 I knew something was following us, 740 00:41:03,794 --> 00:41:05,563 and it just seemed like, you know, 741 00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:07,698 from one location, to the other location. 742 00:41:07,731 --> 00:41:10,367 There is definitely something out there. 743 00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:14,805 I was in the bedroom, 744 00:41:14,839 --> 00:41:17,174 that's where I had my computer hooked up. 745 00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:19,243 I was playing a video game online. 746 00:41:19,276 --> 00:41:20,845 She was out in the kitchen, 747 00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:23,347 All of a sudden she calls me out there, 748 00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:25,783 and her voice kinda, sounded funny. 749 00:41:32,356 --> 00:41:35,192 I was like, what, what's going on? 750 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:37,895 She's standing in the middle of the kitchen, 751 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,336 and she's got this, like kinda, like, 752 00:41:45,369 --> 00:41:47,204 this blank look on her face. 753 00:41:54,211 --> 00:41:56,280 Then she's got a knife in her hand. 754 00:41:56,313 --> 00:42:09,126 ♪ 755 00:42:11,128 --> 00:42:19,370 ♪ 756 00:42:19,403 --> 00:42:21,672 Greg and Danielle Koch, had already moved once 757 00:42:21,705 --> 00:42:25,910 because of paranormal phenomena. 758 00:42:25,943 --> 00:42:27,711 Despite starting out as skeptics, 759 00:42:27,745 --> 00:42:29,847 the couple now believed in the dark side, 760 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,882 as the events became life threatening. 761 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:35,219 Then she's got a knife in her hand. 762 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,926 She's got it up, held, you know, kinda like, 763 00:42:41,959 --> 00:42:42,893 a stabbing motion. 764 00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:48,232 And she's just standing there, and I'm talking to her I'm like, 765 00:42:48,265 --> 00:42:51,602 Danielle, Danielle, you know, trying to you know get her 766 00:42:51,635 --> 00:42:54,805 to acknowledge me, answer me, you know? 767 00:42:54,838 --> 00:42:57,441 To at least turn her face, and look at me. 768 00:42:57,474 --> 00:43:00,511 She was staring off a million miles away. 769 00:43:04,515 --> 00:43:07,384 You know, that knife really made me nervous. 770 00:43:11,989 --> 00:43:15,292 And so I was like, look if you don't put that knife down, 771 00:43:15,326 --> 00:43:18,329 I'mma' tackle you down to the ground and take it from you. 772 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,901 She finally looked like she snapped out of it, 773 00:43:23,934 --> 00:43:25,836 but she's like, what, what's going on? 774 00:43:25,869 --> 00:43:28,005 I was like, you tell me. 775 00:43:28,038 --> 00:43:29,506 You've been standing there for five, 776 00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:32,109 six minutes now, with a frickin' knife in your hand. 777 00:43:32,142 --> 00:43:34,111 I was like, I started yellin' at you, 778 00:43:34,144 --> 00:43:37,181 and you weren't paying attention to, acknowledging me, 779 00:43:37,214 --> 00:43:39,450 and she's like, I didn't hear ya' at all. 780 00:43:39,483 --> 00:43:43,988 All I remember is, it felt like a demonic force, 781 00:43:44,021 --> 00:43:45,923 and I was fighting with it. 782 00:43:45,956 --> 00:43:48,692 I was definitely scared, because if it could do it there, 783 00:43:48,726 --> 00:43:50,995 you know, what if it's gonna do it again, 784 00:43:51,028 --> 00:43:54,031 where I wasn't around or I was sleeping. 785 00:43:54,064 --> 00:43:58,435 So, we both knew something, something serious was going on. 786 00:43:59,003 --> 00:44:03,207 Unexpectedly, Greg and Danielle found help close to home. 787 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,476 You know, we were kinda hesitant to say anything 788 00:44:05,509 --> 00:44:06,910 to the neighbours. 789 00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:09,346 And then, they actually brought it up. 790 00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:13,717 Um, that they were part of a paranormal society, 791 00:44:13,751 --> 00:44:15,552 and I was like you're kidding me? 792 00:44:15,586 --> 00:44:18,689 I was like, what, what are the odds that you guys 793 00:44:18,722 --> 00:44:20,958 are gonna be living right next door to us. 794 00:44:20,991 --> 00:44:23,227 And then, we told them what was going on. 795 00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:25,729 We told them, some of the experiences that we had, 796 00:44:25,763 --> 00:44:28,666 and he definitely felt that there was a dark presence 797 00:44:28,699 --> 00:44:30,734 in the house, 798 00:44:30,768 --> 00:44:33,637 that he was, definitely worried, about Danielle. 799 00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:36,340 Greg invited his neighbours into his home, 800 00:44:36,373 --> 00:44:38,409 to perform a cleansing ritual. 801 00:44:38,942 --> 00:44:41,478 You know, I would see them going around, 802 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:44,148 she does spells and stuff like that, 803 00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:47,885 trying to encourage more good spirits, 804 00:44:47,918 --> 00:44:50,554 you know, good feelings, stuff like that. 805 00:44:50,587 --> 00:44:54,024 And ward off, you know, the more negative feelings. 806 00:44:54,058 --> 00:44:55,359 With the house cleansed, 807 00:44:55,392 --> 00:44:57,561 the neighbours gave Danielle an amulet 808 00:44:57,594 --> 00:44:59,430 to ward off evil spirits. 809 00:44:59,463 --> 00:45:02,633 And taught her how to perform the ritual herself. 810 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,470 Danielle seemed like she needed more of the protection. 811 00:45:06,503 --> 00:45:09,973 It seemed more, you know, 812 00:45:10,007 --> 00:45:13,210 gravitating towards her, not me. 813 00:45:13,243 --> 00:45:14,978 Danielle: And that's been protecting me. 814 00:45:15,913 --> 00:45:18,982 So, that's how I survive. 815 00:45:19,016 --> 00:45:21,819 A lot of these things we use, we use as symbols. 816 00:45:21,852 --> 00:45:25,122 An artifact is not going to drive away a spirit, 817 00:45:25,155 --> 00:45:28,058 as much as what's behind that artifact. 818 00:45:28,092 --> 00:45:30,427 What faith is being put into that artifact. 819 00:45:30,461 --> 00:45:34,031 Essentially, you, yourself is the one that's exorcising 820 00:45:34,064 --> 00:45:35,632 the spirit out of a home. 821 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,070 And to be honest, it seems like its working. 822 00:45:40,104 --> 00:45:43,073 There's a lot less negativity in the house, 823 00:45:43,107 --> 00:45:46,744 or kinda, you know, happy we're living there, 824 00:45:46,777 --> 00:45:48,312 as long as, you know, 825 00:45:48,345 --> 00:45:50,581 we feel like, we're kinda safe. 826 00:45:50,614 --> 00:45:52,816 You know, we definitely felt like, 827 00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:54,818 you know, we're surviving there. 828 00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:58,021 Narrator: Greg is a skeptic, turned believer . 829 00:45:58,055 --> 00:46:01,258 Before Danielle moved in, you know, there was, 830 00:46:01,291 --> 00:46:03,594 there was no such thing as ghosts. 831 00:46:03,627 --> 00:46:06,697 But you know, five, six years later, 832 00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:09,466 and I believe 100 percent. 833 00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:13,203 You know, there is no doubt, there are spirits out there. 65324

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