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There's an evil entity
in the house.
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These are real people.
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I was terrified
beyond belief.
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Reliving horrifying
paranormal encounters,
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for the first time.
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I truly felt it was
like living hell.
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As spirits return from the dark
side to deliver evil messages.
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This can't really
be happening.
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You can't explain
the fear.
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I've never been that
scared in my entire life.
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I wanted to get
out of that house.
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Be prepared
to be afraid.
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♪
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(thunder crashing)
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(birds chirping)
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The house is not bad,
the nice thing about it is,
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it's still a
smaller city.
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I was looking online at all
these different houses.
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It was the right time, good
prices, easy to get mortgages.
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So, made a move.
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It was a foreclosure,
so that makes it a lot easier
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to buy a house in
decent condition.
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I actually didn't know
a lot about my house
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before I bought it,
cause there was a foreclosure.
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So pretty much
the online listing,
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said the is home
located in Kalamazoo,
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great condition,
sold as is.
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Everything was great the first
few months of the house,
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never had any issues.
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I met Dave
about February 2013.
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We started
talking online.
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One day
I bothered him,
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and said,
you have to meet me so--
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we did and kinda
hit it off.
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There was some
issues in July.
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I was actually moving
to Kalamazoo.
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So, Dan said one day you
know come move in with me.
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Uh, he moved in
about September last year.
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My first impression
of Dan's house
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was that it was
a very nice house.
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You know, it was a
good starter home.
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The first few days
after Dave moved in,
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everything was good never
had any issues with the house.
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Um, it was just
peaceful.
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The next few months
everything was calm,
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all through
the holidays.
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The first experiences
we had was right after
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we had visited my brother
for the fourth of July.
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We had come home, and my
brother had given us this bible.
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Didn't think
anything of this bible,
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had it sitting on
this table in the house.
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We got home and we
were both tired.
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So we laid down, and it was
probably 12 or 1 o clock.
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I had the TV
on still.
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(whispering)
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Out of nowhere,
the door just slowly shuts.
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(door slamming)
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I got up and opened
the door again.
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There's nothing there.
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I laid back down and you
could just hear creaking,
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along the bed
right next to me.
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(floor creaking)
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A minute later, I heard
something fall in the kitchen.
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I stayed up all night worrying
something would happen.
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The next morning
he told me about it,
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and I was little
skeptical.
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I hadn't experienced
anything in the house.
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♪
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The first occurrence,
I was home by myself.
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It was during the day,
I had just got home from work.
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(slamming)
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I heard in
the kitchen,
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the dining room chairs
slam against the floor.
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(banging)
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And then I heard
running across the kitchen.
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(fast footsteps)
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Then the basement door
fly's open hit the wall.
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So, I hurry up walking
towards the kitchen area,
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and I see the basement
door moving still,
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cause it opened
with such force.
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And I see is
shoes scattered,
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like they're just thrown
down the kitchen area.
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My rational side
is fighting with me,
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saying this can't
really be happening
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but deep down
inside I'm terrified.
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That was the first
occurrence I had in the house.
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When you're dealing with
any type of aggravated spirit,
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they will do
whatever they can.
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Obviously, the more
energy that a spirit has,
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the greater the
damage they can do.
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Within the next few minutes,
David actually came home.
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Dan looked
very startled.
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You could just tell something
just happened to Dan,
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that he
couldn't explain.
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After that happened,
the rest of the day,
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every little sound
you'd be worried
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something else
was gonna happen.
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It goes from you being, the sole
person that experienced it,
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to okay,
now it's an event.
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And now it became real
because you're not the only one.
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Putting aside the signs,
that something was potentially
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a miss in his home,
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Dan went to work on a home
renovation project
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in the basement while
David was out.
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♪
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I was in the
basement by myself.
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I was working on replacing
some doors on the house.
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I was chiselling
out the hinges,
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cutting out where
the door handles go.
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And as I was working on it,
the cat had come downstairs
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and she was by me
as I was working.
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And the cat was looking towards
the back of the basement
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and then stops,
and she starts growling
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and she starts
backing up.
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(cat growling)
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At that point she gets
right by to where I'm at,
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and she starts swatting
and hissing really loudly.
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And she's so
frantic to get away,
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that she actually
does a backflip
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and flops right
on her back.
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And is flailing around and she
runs up the basement stairs.
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I actually told Dan that,
the back corner of the basement,
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behind the entertainment room
it was just like hitting a wall.
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You'd walk back there
and out of no where,
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you'd just hit
a cold spot,
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where your hair
would stand on end.
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You would just
felt this chill.
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You could just tell there
was something very unsettling
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about that space.
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So at that point,
I go upstairs and I get up there
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and she's in the
living room staring
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right towards
the basement door.
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At that point,
I'm walking towards her
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and she's just looking
right through me,
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or trying
to look around me.
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Just at the door and
um she gets frantic again,
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and starts clawing
towards that area,
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and she just runs
right to the bedroom.
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And she won't come out
the rest of the day.
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I got home
after that after
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what happened to
Dan in basement,
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probably,
thirty minutes later.
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You know, I went downstairs and
started working on a project
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that I was
working on,
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while Dan went back
to his doors,
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and kitty of course,
was right next to you.
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She wouldn't
leave you.
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When I turned around,
I was staring at the kitty,
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she started swatting at
the air out of nowhere,
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You know,
just swatting at the air.
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And Dan walked up to the door
and he asked me,
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what are you doing?
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And I just let out
a rather loud shh.
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In that corner
three seconds later,
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you could hear in a woman's
voice, shh back at me.
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We both said in sync' you know,
did you hear that?
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That was the first occurrence
where we were both aware,
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and we both heard
it at the same time.
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We probably didn't go
back in the basement,
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for anything other
than laundry after that.
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After a couple days with no
recurring incidents,
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Dan and David
started to think,
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it might have been
their imaginations.
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We were sitting on the couch
and I kept like glancing
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back in the hallway, cause a
moment before I saw something.
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♪
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♪
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Dan Englom and Dave Powers,
had been experiencing
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some weird paranormal
activity in their home.
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And it was getting too
much for David to bare.
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We were sitting on the couch
and I kept like glancing
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back in the hallway, cause a
moment before I saw something.
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I said, I think I'm seeing
someone in the guest bedroom.
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You think that you see it but
then as soon as you go to look,
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it's not there.
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He didn't really
acknowledge it.
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He thought
I was crazy.
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Still skeptical of anything
paranormal occuring in his home,
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Dan was alone one night,
while David went to the gym.
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I was watching
a TV show
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and that's when
the loud bang happened.
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(banging)
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Out of the corner of my
eye, I saw shadows
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from the kitchen area.
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(little girl laughing)
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After that happened,
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the lights in the kitchen
and living room all dimmed.
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And then they
flickered out.
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Then they
came back on.
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It felt like my heart
dropped at that point.
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There's a very musty
body odour smell,
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that you couldn't really pin
point where's it coming from.
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You'd just smell it
and it'd be gone.
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At that point,
I just ran out of the house
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and I waited till
David got home,
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and we stayed outside for
about an hour after he got back.
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I was terrified.
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I did believe Dan.
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Dan's a very
rational person.
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So, when he says you know,
he can't explain something,
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then I'd have to
believe him.
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At that point, I knew we
needed to contact someone.
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And try and figure out what
was going on and get some help.
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Terrified that the
unexplained events
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in their home
would escalate.
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Dan and David called
in a father-daughter
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paranormal
investigation team.
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The intent and the purpose of
the investigation is to gather
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relevant information
and to substantiate,
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if what they've told us is
accurate, and true.
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Just pulling up
into the drive,
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you know, I looked at my dad
and told him something's off.
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And then definitely once we
walked in the home,
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there was a very heavy feeling,
it felt dark.
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Dan, nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you.
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Uh yea,
it's just over here.
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I was very relieved
when they first came,
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cause it was a step
towards something.
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Just seeing the video cameras,
tape recorders, all that.
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It makes it
more real.
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While during the walkthrough,
we had them take us
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to the locations that
they had specific issues,
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that they could go
back and outline for us.
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We deployed all
our recorders.
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We used K2 meters.
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We also used
an ovilus.
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They used their
infrared camera
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and took pictures
throughout the house.
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Thermal imaging or thermal
imaging camera allows us
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to see in realm that our
eyes aren't able to.
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They did use the camera
on the cat a few times.
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They actually picked up a
really compelling picture,
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there's actually a
hand on the cat's back
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as she was
looking up.
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You could see this arm
and hand right on her.
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And it's like
thirty degrees cooler
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than the
cat's temperature.
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And you could see a
hand going along his back.
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Having witnessed and
collected enough evidence
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Allan and Anna went home
to sort through their findings.
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Right after that first
investigation,
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we did exchange a few
e-mail's back and forth.
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One of the e-mails, I was
actually getting ready for work,
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and I was in the
bathroom getting ready
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and I saw an
e-mail come in.
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And I'm reading
this e-mail from them,
249
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and as I'm reading it I hear
footsteps down the hallway.
250
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I open the door and
I walk out of the bathroom
251
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and David's
in the bedroom.
252
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David!
253
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You won't believe
this e-mail I just got.
254
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And I'm telling him
about the e-mail
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that I just got
from Alan and Anna
256
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and as I'm doing that,
he stops me and he's like,
257
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there's someone
behind you.
258
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♪
259
00:15:15,911 --> 00:15:18,680
All your hair just
stands up on your arms.
260
00:15:18,914 --> 00:15:20,516
You just get
this primal fear.
261
00:15:20,549 --> 00:15:22,885
There's a very old man
with sunken in cheeks,
262
00:15:22,918 --> 00:15:24,686
and it's a face
you'll never forget.
263
00:15:25,721 --> 00:15:28,457
You know that there's
something there.
264
00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:31,627
I've never been that
scared in my entire life.
265
00:15:31,660 --> 00:15:33,629
Especially, when it's
looking right at you.
266
00:15:37,699 --> 00:15:41,203
The e-mail from Alan and Anna
said that they're 100% sure,
267
00:15:41,236 --> 00:15:43,539
that there is something
going on in the house.
268
00:15:43,572 --> 00:15:47,676
They had sound recording,
and infrared images.
269
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That confirmed and
showed all evidence.
270
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I am scared,
I'm gonna have to sell my house.
271
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Due to the findings, we made
arrangements to get right back
272
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and I think it was
three days later,
273
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we conducted
our investigation.
274
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Alan and Anna
came out for the second time
275
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after about
a few hours in,
276
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is when there started to
be a little activity.
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Alan and Anna were
downstairs in the basement
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they had this
prayer box,
279
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and this whole tool chest
that I had gotten from my dad.
280
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And Alan kept on trying
to ask who was down there.
281
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Alan: What's your name?
282
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He was asking,
if someone was down there,
283
00:16:32,087 --> 00:16:33,889
um, to say something.
284
00:16:33,922 --> 00:16:35,691
To let them know
that they're there.
285
00:16:36,191 --> 00:16:37,926
After he said it
one more time,
286
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give us a sign
that you're down here.
287
00:16:39,995 --> 00:16:43,498
The box actually spun on
top of the tool chest.
288
00:16:43,532 --> 00:16:46,034
We understand that you
like hang out in the corner,
289
00:16:46,068 --> 00:16:46,835
is that true?
290
00:16:48,103 --> 00:16:55,310
♪
291
00:16:57,179 --> 00:17:04,586
♪
292
00:17:06,421 --> 00:17:09,625
After dealing with paranormal
phenomena in their home,
293
00:17:09,658 --> 00:17:12,961
Dan Englom and David Powers,
called in an investigation team
294
00:17:12,995 --> 00:17:14,763
to get evidence
of their haunting.
295
00:17:16,498 --> 00:17:19,601
Their findings shocked
everyone involved.
296
00:17:23,005 --> 00:17:24,740
Dan: After he said
one more time,
297
00:17:24,773 --> 00:17:26,842
give us a sign that
you're down here.
298
00:17:26,875 --> 00:17:30,112
The box actually spun on
top of the tool chest.
299
00:17:30,145 --> 00:17:32,881
Alan: We understand that you
like hang out in the corner,
300
00:17:32,914 --> 00:17:33,682
is that true?
301
00:17:36,218 --> 00:17:39,221
Holy sááá, you gotta see this,
I gotta stop it.
302
00:17:41,556 --> 00:17:44,026
We understand that you
like hang out in the corner,
303
00:17:44,059 --> 00:17:44,960
is that true?
304
00:17:47,562 --> 00:17:51,199
I've never seen an
object move in that matter,
305
00:17:51,233 --> 00:17:54,670
I mean, I could not
replicate or debunk it.
306
00:17:55,637 --> 00:17:59,374
We knew something was there and
it had a strong enough energy
307
00:17:59,408 --> 00:18:02,110
to be able to manipulate
an object that big.
308
00:18:02,144 --> 00:18:04,913
So we knew,
it was probably serious.
309
00:18:04,946 --> 00:18:09,451
I 100% believe it
to be paranormal.
310
00:18:11,787 --> 00:18:14,256
The next room they went
into was the guest bedroom.
311
00:18:14,289 --> 00:18:17,259
They had hoped to be able
to speak to the old man.
312
00:18:17,292 --> 00:18:19,494
They did get
him to interact,
313
00:18:19,528 --> 00:18:22,130
a few times through
the spirit box.
314
00:18:22,164 --> 00:18:23,899
We were in there probably
fifteen minutes
315
00:18:23,932 --> 00:18:26,168
and the spirit box went
from being very quiet,
316
00:18:26,201 --> 00:18:27,636
to being very noisy.
317
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:29,638
With an old grumpy man
talking through it.
318
00:18:29,671 --> 00:18:33,608
(indistinct talking)
319
00:18:33,642 --> 00:18:36,411
It was saying f this,
f that, f you!
320
00:18:36,445 --> 00:18:38,313
Get the f out!
321
00:18:38,346 --> 00:18:41,049
Saying all these obscene,
very vulgar things.
322
00:18:45,454 --> 00:18:49,091
I had a meter in my hand
that would go off
323
00:18:49,124 --> 00:18:51,593
when there was electro
magnetic field near it.
324
00:18:53,061 --> 00:18:54,963
There were points
where the meter
325
00:18:54,996 --> 00:18:59,301
would completely peg and my arm,
I was holding the meter in,
326
00:18:59,334 --> 00:19:01,169
and my arm would shake
uncontrollably.
327
00:19:03,171 --> 00:19:05,307
I just had this electrical
sensation pulsing
328
00:19:05,340 --> 00:19:07,409
through the left
side of my body.
329
00:19:09,244 --> 00:19:12,180
Then out of nowhere,
it just grabs my by the ankle.
330
00:19:14,783 --> 00:19:17,786
It felt like we were being
bullied out of our own home.
331
00:19:17,819 --> 00:19:20,355
It felt like whatever
was there was gonna plague us.
332
00:19:24,292 --> 00:19:28,296
A spirit, if given
the proper energy,
333
00:19:28,330 --> 00:19:30,599
some of them can
go beyond moving objects,
334
00:19:30,632 --> 00:19:33,969
some one them could actually
physically harm people.
335
00:19:34,002 --> 00:19:36,271
Because even though their
physical body is not here,
336
00:19:36,304 --> 00:19:38,306
their emotions still
remain the same.
337
00:19:38,774 --> 00:19:40,375
Now that physical
things are happening,
338
00:19:40,408 --> 00:19:42,144
it felt like we're
in more danger.
339
00:19:42,177 --> 00:19:43,678
We were done
at that moment.
340
00:19:43,712 --> 00:19:45,447
I didn't want to
do anything else.
341
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,449
I told them we're not
doing anything else.
342
00:19:47,482 --> 00:19:51,286
♪
343
00:19:51,319 --> 00:19:54,890
I packed up all their
equipment and they left.
344
00:19:54,923 --> 00:19:59,394
I felt like whatever was
there, didn't like us.
345
00:19:59,427 --> 00:20:01,596
It wanted us out
of the house.
346
00:20:01,630 --> 00:20:03,231
We didn't stay
there after that.
347
00:20:09,871 --> 00:20:14,543
At that point, I felt defeated,
I felt completely helpless,
348
00:20:14,576 --> 00:20:16,812
cause we had just gone
through all of this
349
00:20:16,845 --> 00:20:20,315
and we had the hopes
that we had resolved it.
350
00:20:20,348 --> 00:20:22,417
And it just
wasn't the case.
351
00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:27,322
Having reached their wits end,
Dan and David moved
352
00:20:27,355 --> 00:20:30,959
out of their home
and stayed with friends.
353
00:20:32,294 --> 00:20:34,663
It was probably a week
after all this happened,
354
00:20:34,696 --> 00:20:36,331
that Dan finally
called a medium.
355
00:20:36,364 --> 00:20:39,701
I was skeptical about
believing if she could fix it.
356
00:20:39,734 --> 00:20:50,712
♪
357
00:20:50,745 --> 00:20:52,714
As soon as we
walked in the house,
358
00:20:52,747 --> 00:20:55,550
we go downstairs
and the medium says,
359
00:20:55,584 --> 00:20:57,385
that they can sense
a little girl.
360
00:21:00,655 --> 00:21:03,458
Little girl kept saying
that she was hiding.
361
00:21:03,491 --> 00:21:05,260
She hid
in the basement.
362
00:21:05,293 --> 00:21:07,229
And she said that
she killed him.
363
00:21:07,262 --> 00:21:08,263
It was her fault.
364
00:21:14,936 --> 00:21:17,172
And we asked her,
what's your fault?
365
00:21:17,205 --> 00:21:18,707
And she said,
the fire.
366
00:21:21,977 --> 00:21:23,645
She said,
there's a fire.
367
00:21:23,678 --> 00:21:26,448
And she did what mommy
and daddy told her to do.
368
00:21:27,249 --> 00:21:29,751
She said that she went
downstairs, and there the fire.
369
00:21:29,784 --> 00:21:32,287
Cause her parents told her
that if anything ever happened,
370
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,555
to hide in
the basement.
371
00:21:33,588 --> 00:21:35,323
Right away you
could just smell fire.
372
00:21:35,357 --> 00:21:37,359
It just smelt like
fire all around you.
373
00:21:39,094 --> 00:21:41,329
The little girl said she lived
in a farmhouse
374
00:21:41,363 --> 00:21:44,833
and she went in the basement
to hide like she's told.
375
00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:49,371
And heard, she said she
heard her mom calling for her.
376
00:21:49,404 --> 00:21:55,644
And they came downstairs and she
said that the stairs collapsed.
377
00:21:55,677 --> 00:21:57,946
And it's her fault
they all died down there.
378
00:22:03,351 --> 00:22:07,422
The medium felt that it happened
probably 100 years ago or more.
379
00:22:07,455 --> 00:22:09,958
And it was on the land
that this had happened,
380
00:22:09,991 --> 00:22:12,794
not necessarily
the home I live in now.
381
00:22:12,827 --> 00:22:14,863
Just the
same location.
382
00:22:14,896 --> 00:22:17,899
She told the little girl
it's not your fault
383
00:22:17,933 --> 00:22:19,534
that her
parents are gone.
384
00:22:19,567 --> 00:22:22,304
And told her that um,
her parents are in the light,
385
00:22:22,337 --> 00:22:25,340
and she needed to go to
the light to find her parents,
386
00:22:25,373 --> 00:22:27,108
cause that's all the
little girl wanted,
387
00:22:27,142 --> 00:22:27,909
was her parents.
388
00:22:29,744 --> 00:22:31,813
And she said that
she found them,
389
00:22:31,846 --> 00:22:34,482
at the light
she found them.
390
00:22:34,516 --> 00:22:37,786
And the smell
of fire went away,
391
00:22:37,819 --> 00:22:40,422
it just got a little
bit lighter.
392
00:22:40,455 --> 00:22:44,526
And you just felt good because
you just felt like you helped.
393
00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:52,100
♪
394
00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:54,636
We made our way back
upstairs at that point.
395
00:22:54,669 --> 00:23:01,743
♪
396
00:23:03,578 --> 00:23:10,885
♪
397
00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:14,422
Dan Englum and David Powers,
have been experienced
398
00:23:14,456 --> 00:23:18,927
hauntings from
a spirit of an old man.
399
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,030
They've enlisted the help of a
medium to cleanse their house,
400
00:23:22,063 --> 00:23:23,598
of any negative energy.
401
00:23:25,667 --> 00:23:27,902
We made our way back
upstairs at that point
402
00:23:27,936 --> 00:23:32,507
and the medium was able
to come across the old man,
403
00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:34,576
in the dining area.
404
00:23:37,712 --> 00:23:40,715
She said the man
was very vulgar,
405
00:23:40,749 --> 00:23:44,252
he said he was making a lot
of profane statements,
406
00:23:44,285 --> 00:23:48,289
and he said he didn't approve
of us living in his home in sin.
407
00:23:48,323 --> 00:23:50,558
And he said,
he was a good Christian man
408
00:23:50,592 --> 00:23:53,728
and it's not fair he
had to die the way he did.
409
00:23:53,762 --> 00:23:56,264
While we're living
in sin in his home.
410
00:23:56,297 --> 00:23:58,533
What had set everything
off was when we brought
411
00:23:58,566 --> 00:24:00,402
that bible into
the house.
412
00:24:00,435 --> 00:24:02,804
And the bible
made him angry,
413
00:24:02,837 --> 00:24:06,608
because he'd always
been very religious,
414
00:24:06,641 --> 00:24:08,176
and he felt betrayed.
415
00:24:08,209 --> 00:24:10,178
If the person who
lived in that house
416
00:24:10,211 --> 00:24:13,481
who had died,
was of the Christian faith.
417
00:24:13,515 --> 00:24:16,484
Sometimes the anger
that somebody has
418
00:24:16,518 --> 00:24:20,789
or a spirit has is enough to
fuel the energy that it needs.
419
00:24:20,822 --> 00:24:25,960
We had discovered that he was
trying to get in the attic,
420
00:24:25,994 --> 00:24:27,228
and the ladder
fell out,
421
00:24:27,262 --> 00:24:29,497
and he fell down
into the basement,
422
00:24:29,531 --> 00:24:30,999
on to the
basement stairs.
423
00:24:31,032 --> 00:24:32,434
That's where he
had died.
424
00:24:34,803 --> 00:24:37,572
After we had
learned how he died,
425
00:24:37,605 --> 00:24:41,443
we realized that he
was not a beast
426
00:24:41,476 --> 00:24:44,212
and we just wanted to
be able to move on.
427
00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:49,050
The medium helped the spirit
come to terms with his death,
428
00:24:49,084 --> 00:24:51,352
allowing him to
crossover peacefully.
429
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,558
After they were just able to
talk to him about his death,
430
00:24:56,591 --> 00:24:58,293
we burned sage
around the house.
431
00:25:06,501 --> 00:25:09,804
We could feel his presence
there for a little bit longer,
432
00:25:09,838 --> 00:25:12,674
gradually it did fade
and since that day,
433
00:25:12,707 --> 00:25:14,809
there hasn't been
another occurrence
434
00:25:14,843 --> 00:25:17,145
or anything from him.
435
00:25:17,178 --> 00:25:19,647
He had been
there all that time
436
00:25:19,681 --> 00:25:22,984
and was trapped and had
so much resentment,
437
00:25:23,017 --> 00:25:24,452
that he
couldn't move on.
438
00:25:26,988 --> 00:25:31,359
Ever since the medium came in
things have been perfect.
439
00:25:31,392 --> 00:25:34,262
After they left the house feels
completely different.
440
00:25:34,295 --> 00:25:37,565
It felt like homey again
and like it used to.
441
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:46,207
♪
442
00:25:46,241 --> 00:25:49,310
Part of me wonders if
I'll always be afraid
443
00:25:49,344 --> 00:25:51,579
to fall back asleep in the
house by myself.
444
00:25:51,613 --> 00:25:53,581
Always something in
the back of your mind,
445
00:25:53,615 --> 00:25:56,284
the fear that something's
going to happen again.
446
00:25:56,317 --> 00:25:58,887
It's just not something
I feel I'll get over.
447
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:07,962
♪
448
00:26:07,996 --> 00:26:10,431
When an entity has
an evil intention,
449
00:26:10,465 --> 00:26:13,801
the effects on the living
can be utterly devastating.
450
00:26:30,785 --> 00:26:36,124
(thunder crashing)
451
00:26:36,524 --> 00:26:41,629
♪
452
00:26:41,663 --> 00:26:43,097
My name is
Toni Rogers.
453
00:26:43,131 --> 00:26:46,134
I'm from Lake Simcoe, a little
town called Georgina.
454
00:26:51,773 --> 00:26:53,975
It's a nice
tourist area.
455
00:26:54,008 --> 00:26:55,910
people come through,
go fishing.
456
00:26:59,747 --> 00:27:03,551
Me and my husband were looking
for a quiet place to live.
457
00:27:04,986 --> 00:27:07,188
We just got married
a year prior,
458
00:27:07,222 --> 00:27:10,325
So, we wanted place where
we can raise our children,
459
00:27:10,358 --> 00:27:15,697
and enjoy a nice
quiet town and place,
460
00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:17,832
where our
kids can grow up
461
00:27:17,865 --> 00:27:21,069
and have that small
community feeling.
462
00:27:21,102 --> 00:27:22,937
Where everybody
knows everybody.
463
00:27:22,971 --> 00:27:32,880
♪
464
00:27:32,914 --> 00:27:35,116
I found out that
I was pregnant.
465
00:27:41,055 --> 00:27:43,291
My husband was
working in the city.
466
00:27:48,496 --> 00:27:50,665
I used to work
in a day care,
467
00:27:50,698 --> 00:27:52,734
I was talking to
one of the neighbours
468
00:27:52,767 --> 00:27:54,502
and they were looking
for a babysitter.
469
00:27:54,535 --> 00:27:57,405
So I just got
a babysitter job.
470
00:27:57,438 --> 00:28:00,074
And she was a very
happy go lucky little girl.
471
00:28:00,108 --> 00:28:02,877
and she was
just a joy.
472
00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:05,446
Plus, she was just directly
right behind my house,
473
00:28:06,848 --> 00:28:08,249
so, it worked out
perfect.
474
00:28:11,819 --> 00:28:16,124
(thunder crashing)
475
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,029
I would take down the
laundry to the basement.
476
00:28:21,062 --> 00:28:31,072
♪
477
00:28:31,105 --> 00:28:33,408
And then I had
this weird feeling,
478
00:28:33,441 --> 00:28:35,443
that I am being watched
in their basement.
479
00:28:35,476 --> 00:28:36,711
And it was uneasy.
480
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,789
So, I just dropped the clothes
down there and I ran back up.
481
00:28:47,822 --> 00:28:49,390
and was like euh!
482
00:28:49,424 --> 00:28:51,859
You get that
eerie feeling.
483
00:28:58,833 --> 00:29:04,772
And telling my husband, it just
feels weird being in that house
484
00:29:04,806 --> 00:29:09,410
it just not, it just feels
uneasy in that house like,
485
00:29:09,444 --> 00:29:11,312
I'm being watched.
486
00:29:11,346 --> 00:29:14,649
And he's just like,
your probably your pregnant
487
00:29:14,682 --> 00:29:18,720
and whatever, it's just
hormones don't worry about it.
488
00:29:20,221 --> 00:29:23,157
With no one taking her
experiences serious,
489
00:29:23,191 --> 00:29:25,827
Toni continued babysitting at
the neighbour's house.
490
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:35,703
♪
491
00:29:35,737 --> 00:29:39,073
I talked to my family about it,
my sister, my brothers.
492
00:29:39,107 --> 00:29:41,209
And they all kind
of brushed it off.
493
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,288
My dad would always say just
make a sign of the cross,
494
00:29:54,322 --> 00:29:57,392
and believe in god
and everything will be fine.
495
00:29:57,425 --> 00:30:07,435
♪
496
00:30:07,468 --> 00:30:15,376
♪
497
00:30:15,410 --> 00:30:16,844
Toni leaned
on her faith,
498
00:30:16,878 --> 00:30:19,046
and tried to shake the
unexplained feeling,
499
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,517
that she was being watched
in her neighbour's house.
500
00:30:22,550 --> 00:30:25,019
One time, it must have
been a couple of weeks
501
00:30:25,052 --> 00:30:27,355
into the babysitting,
502
00:30:27,388 --> 00:30:30,024
I felt like I
needed a nap.
503
00:30:31,726 --> 00:30:32,960
The mom
actually told me,
504
00:30:32,994 --> 00:30:35,229
if you ever get tired,
there's a spare room
505
00:30:35,263 --> 00:30:36,731
right next to the
baby's room.
506
00:30:36,764 --> 00:30:38,833
There's a monitor
if she wakes up.
507
00:30:38,866 --> 00:30:50,244
♪
508
00:30:50,278 --> 00:30:53,214
And then all of sudden you
feel like you're being watched.
509
00:30:55,183 --> 00:30:57,218
I open my eyes
and I couldn't move,
510
00:31:00,388 --> 00:31:03,925
and then all of sudden
these four things were there,
511
00:31:03,958 --> 00:31:06,427
like two of them on
each side of the bed,
512
00:31:06,461 --> 00:31:09,464
and they're looking down
at me as I'm looking up.
513
00:31:09,497 --> 00:31:12,433
But I couldn't scream
or move or nothing.
514
00:31:14,569 --> 00:31:17,238
And they were like in
brown hooded robes.
515
00:31:18,372 --> 00:31:20,908
There was no face,
516
00:31:20,942 --> 00:31:22,677
There's like darkness.
517
00:31:24,479 --> 00:31:32,553
(chanting)
518
00:31:32,587 --> 00:31:42,196
♪
519
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:46,167
And then the baby started
to fuss in her crib,
520
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,469
and all of a sudden
I just jolted up,
521
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,041
I'm looking around
and there is nothing there.
522
00:31:54,075 --> 00:32:05,920
(baby crying)
523
00:32:05,953 --> 00:32:08,823
I ran to see the baby
and checked her out
524
00:32:08,856 --> 00:32:09,957
and she was fine.
525
00:32:13,027 --> 00:32:14,729
I called my
husband and said,
526
00:32:14,762 --> 00:32:19,133
I had this weird
experience in this house,
527
00:32:19,166 --> 00:32:24,372
there were these four robed
monks around the bed.
528
00:32:24,405 --> 00:32:27,208
And he's like, oh it's
probably just a dream.
529
00:32:27,241 --> 00:32:28,576
Don't worry
about it.
530
00:32:28,609 --> 00:32:30,912
There have been many
cases involving
531
00:32:30,945 --> 00:32:34,382
what we like to call
Incubus or Succubus cases.
532
00:32:34,415 --> 00:32:37,652
Where a person will say
they had a dream,
533
00:32:37,685 --> 00:32:41,556
that they were surrounded
by beings without faces.
534
00:32:41,589 --> 00:32:47,428
And they felt an overwhelming
fear and almost paralyzed.
535
00:32:47,461 --> 00:32:48,629
Where they
couldn't move.
536
00:32:48,663 --> 00:32:51,699
They knew it was going on,
they could see it was going on,
537
00:32:51,732 --> 00:32:53,534
but they couldn't
do anything about it.
538
00:32:53,568 --> 00:32:56,971
And then the second time it
happened, it was more intense.
539
00:32:57,004 --> 00:33:05,146
♪
540
00:33:06,948 --> 00:33:15,156
♪
541
00:33:15,189 --> 00:33:18,526
It was 1992,
and Toni Rodgers was babysitting
542
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:19,927
at her
neighbour's house.
543
00:33:22,330 --> 00:33:25,199
She went to take a nap
but she suddenly realized,
544
00:33:25,232 --> 00:33:26,701
she was not alone.
545
00:33:28,402 --> 00:33:32,306
And I layed on the bed and
I got the same feeling again,
546
00:33:34,609 --> 00:33:36,644
and I saw five of
them this time.
547
00:33:40,514 --> 00:33:44,085
And there were two on each
side and one was in front of me,
548
00:33:46,887 --> 00:33:49,190
I was trying to scream,
but I couldn't scream.
549
00:33:49,223 --> 00:33:52,793
I was trying to call for help
but no voice was coming out.
550
00:33:53,761 --> 00:33:56,530
And there's just one
at the foot of the bed,
551
00:33:56,564 --> 00:33:59,900
and he reaches out his hand
and he had long claws/nails,
552
00:33:59,934 --> 00:34:04,939
kind of thing, and he went over
my stomach and scratched me.
553
00:34:10,478 --> 00:34:12,947
I did the sign of the cross
with my tongue,
554
00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:14,515
and that's when
I was released.
555
00:34:16,817 --> 00:34:19,387
(screaming)
556
00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:24,825
You can't explain the fear,
it was a terrifying feeling,
557
00:34:24,859 --> 00:34:27,962
especially when you can't
explain what it was.
558
00:34:27,995 --> 00:34:31,432
When dealing with the
demonic a lot of times,
559
00:34:31,465 --> 00:34:35,136
anything that involves a
demon is usually never nice.
560
00:34:35,169 --> 00:34:40,207
One of the big things that
demons pray off of is fear,
561
00:34:40,241 --> 00:34:42,410
instilling fear
into somebody.
562
00:34:42,443 --> 00:34:47,114
Was it a warning was it a sign,
was it to test my faith?
563
00:34:47,148 --> 00:34:48,516
I have no idea.
564
00:34:48,549 --> 00:34:51,986
I just wanted to forget
about it and I just let it go.
565
00:34:52,019 --> 00:34:54,221
(screaming)
566
00:34:54,255 --> 00:34:55,489
I'm like freaked out.
567
00:34:55,523 --> 00:34:57,091
I called my husband.
568
00:34:57,124 --> 00:34:58,859
I said this thing
actually scratched me,
569
00:34:58,893 --> 00:35:01,629
I think there is something
going on with the baby like,
570
00:35:01,662 --> 00:35:04,598
they're out to get my
baby or something.
571
00:35:04,632 --> 00:35:07,268
And he said, don't
be ridiculous it's ok.
572
00:35:07,301 --> 00:35:10,905
Then I said no I actually have
a scratch mark on my stomach,
573
00:35:10,938 --> 00:35:13,407
like something
scratched me.
574
00:35:13,441 --> 00:35:14,842
I can't be
here anymore.
575
00:35:14,875 --> 00:35:16,610
And he said,
don't worry about it.
576
00:35:16,644 --> 00:35:19,914
we have an ultrasound
coming up in a couple of days.
577
00:35:19,947 --> 00:35:21,415
Everything's going
to be fine,
578
00:35:21,449 --> 00:35:22,917
but at that
moment I knew,
579
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:26,087
there's something not
right with the baby.
580
00:35:29,223 --> 00:35:32,059
I don't know what or why
those things were there,
581
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:36,731
but as a pregnant mother, I knew
there was something not right.
582
00:35:38,466 --> 00:35:42,303
So I told the
lady I said,
583
00:35:42,336 --> 00:35:43,838
I can't do
this anymore.
584
00:35:49,076 --> 00:35:51,545
So we went for the ultrasound
and they found out,
585
00:35:51,579 --> 00:35:53,547
there was something
wrong with the baby.
586
00:35:57,551 --> 00:36:00,354
He was born on
April 26.
587
00:36:01,722 --> 00:36:06,560
Complications, his chest cavity
was too small for his lungs
588
00:36:06,594 --> 00:36:09,430
and he lived
for 13 days.
589
00:36:09,463 --> 00:36:11,432
We had to take
him off life support,
590
00:36:11,465 --> 00:36:13,033
and we had to
say goodbye.
591
00:36:13,734 --> 00:36:24,678
♪
592
00:36:24,712 --> 00:36:29,049
I'm living in this house and
the plans were to have children.
593
00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:32,453
I'm feeling like a
failure as a mom,
594
00:36:32,486 --> 00:36:34,021
as a wife,
as a person.
595
00:36:34,789 --> 00:36:45,132
♪
596
00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:50,371
Six months later, I got pregnant
again with our second child.
597
00:36:50,404 --> 00:36:54,675
♪
598
00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:56,710
And Jesse was born
and it turned out,
599
00:36:56,744 --> 00:37:00,981
he was a boy and a
healthy boy at that.
600
00:37:01,582 --> 00:37:04,952
You can't explain
the excitement,
601
00:37:04,985 --> 00:37:07,721
like it's beyond happiness,
being a mom.
602
00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:14,094
Things were you know,
like, good.
603
00:37:14,128 --> 00:37:16,931
Everything at the
house was awesome.
604
00:37:16,964 --> 00:37:22,136
And dad went to work, mom stayed
at home and raised the baby,
605
00:37:22,169 --> 00:37:24,305
cleaned the house, you know
good ol' housewife.
606
00:37:27,074 --> 00:37:30,411
Toni was grateful for her second
chance of being a mother,
607
00:37:30,444 --> 00:37:33,080
and all the unexplained
incidents seemed to stop.
608
00:37:35,115 --> 00:37:38,152
Until one night,
more than two years later.
609
00:37:39,253 --> 00:37:40,955
Jesse was two
and a half.
610
00:37:43,991 --> 00:37:46,527
We're all sleeping,
it was two in the morning,
611
00:37:49,496 --> 00:37:52,132
We heard Jesse screaming
at the top of his lungs.
612
00:37:52,166 --> 00:37:55,202
Mommy, mom, mommy!
613
00:37:58,672 --> 00:38:02,109
Me and my husband go into the
room to check out the situation.
614
00:38:02,142 --> 00:38:03,444
Mommy!
615
00:38:03,477 --> 00:38:04,945
He was screaming
that some man
616
00:38:04,979 --> 00:38:07,081
was trying to pull him
inside the wall.
617
00:38:10,851 --> 00:38:15,189
I was scared for my
son's well being, my well-being.
618
00:38:15,222 --> 00:38:17,424
I wanted to get out
of that house.
619
00:38:20,227 --> 00:38:22,062
Fearing that the
malevolent spirit,
620
00:38:22,096 --> 00:38:25,132
that had been haunting
her was now targeting her son,
621
00:38:25,165 --> 00:38:27,735
Toni decided to do some
research on her house .
622
00:38:30,404 --> 00:38:32,873
I went to the town
and got the city records
623
00:38:32,907 --> 00:38:34,408
of who lived in
my house.
624
00:38:36,877 --> 00:38:40,514
Every 6 months to a year people
were moving in and out,
625
00:38:40,915 --> 00:38:42,850
and I had been
there the longest.
626
00:38:44,652 --> 00:38:47,721
My husband was more skeptical,
like he didn't believe.
627
00:38:47,955 --> 00:38:50,224
So then I just
kept it to myself.
628
00:38:50,257 --> 00:38:51,725
Not going to
talk about it,
629
00:38:51,759 --> 00:38:54,094
because I don't want
people to think I'm nuts.
630
00:38:58,232 --> 00:39:01,869
Toni tried to dismiss the
strange events as coincidence
631
00:39:01,902 --> 00:39:05,105
but any hopes that they would
stop were soon dashed.
632
00:39:07,508 --> 00:39:10,044
I guess it was
about 11:30, 12:00.
633
00:39:10,077 --> 00:39:11,078
I slipped into bed.
634
00:39:13,447 --> 00:39:18,319
All that I see out of the closet
coming some older woman.
635
00:39:19,019 --> 00:39:25,259
♪
636
00:39:27,695 --> 00:39:37,304
♪
637
00:39:37,338 --> 00:39:39,740
Toni Rodgers had been
living with evil spirits
638
00:39:39,773 --> 00:39:41,041
in her home
for years.
639
00:39:42,476 --> 00:39:46,480
So far their intentions seem to
be set on harming her family.
640
00:39:48,315 --> 00:39:50,818
I guess it was about
11:30, 12:00.
641
00:39:50,851 --> 00:39:51,852
I slipped into bed.
642
00:39:53,554 --> 00:39:58,125
All that I see out of the closet
coming some older woman.
643
00:40:00,661 --> 00:40:05,733
She walks around the bed
and she walks over towards,
644
00:40:05,766 --> 00:40:08,702
on the other side of the bed
where my husbands sleeping.
645
00:40:11,071 --> 00:40:13,974
She's placing these roses
on top of his chest,
646
00:40:15,376 --> 00:40:19,413
and she spoke to me in
Italian and she said,
647
00:40:19,446 --> 00:40:22,883
(speaking in spanish)
648
00:40:22,916 --> 00:40:25,919
Which meant don't worry my child
everything will be fine.
649
00:40:28,555 --> 00:40:31,358
And as she did that my
husband started to choke
650
00:40:31,392 --> 00:40:33,627
or it looked like he
was about to choke.
651
00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:36,597
He was feeling pressure,
I didn't understand it,
652
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:38,432
I just let it go
at that.
653
00:40:46,874 --> 00:40:50,344
A couple of days later,
I go to my mom's house.
654
00:40:50,377 --> 00:40:52,646
I was going through my
parent's photo album,
655
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,316
and I spotted this
woman in this picture.
656
00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:57,684
She had black hair.
657
00:40:57,718 --> 00:40:59,620
She kind of looked
like me actually.
658
00:41:00,521 --> 00:41:04,591
Completely taken a back Toni
saw a photo of the same spirit
659
00:41:04,625 --> 00:41:08,195
that had visited her only
a few nights previously.
660
00:41:09,263 --> 00:41:12,166
And I asked my mom,
who is this lady?
661
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:14,701
And my mom says,
that's Nonna.
662
00:41:14,735 --> 00:41:15,702
That's my mother.
663
00:41:18,439 --> 00:41:22,743
I was the only one out of my
family that was born in Canada,
664
00:41:22,776 --> 00:41:25,012
and so I've never had the
pleasure of meeting
665
00:41:25,045 --> 00:41:26,613
any of my
grandparents.
666
00:41:29,016 --> 00:41:30,184
I was freaked out,
667
00:41:30,217 --> 00:41:33,687
like why would my
grandmother come visit me
668
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,256
with a dozen roses and
put it on my husband?
669
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:38,859
I believe that there are
spirits that stay behind
670
00:41:38,892 --> 00:41:41,361
for a little bit because
they do have a message
671
00:41:41,395 --> 00:41:45,365
that they want to convey to
their family members,
672
00:41:45,399 --> 00:41:48,068
loved one's, friends,
and they won't move on,
673
00:41:48,102 --> 00:41:49,670
until they get that
message across.
674
00:41:54,308 --> 00:41:58,145
About a week later,
my husband packed his things
675
00:41:58,178 --> 00:42:00,013
and walked
out on us.
676
00:42:03,350 --> 00:42:06,320
It kept playing in my mind,
over and over again.
677
00:42:06,353 --> 00:42:09,056
Why would my grandmother
come out of the closet,
678
00:42:09,089 --> 00:42:12,259
with a dozen roses and say
that it's going to be ok?
679
00:42:12,493 --> 00:42:13,727
And now it
makes sense.
680
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,430
She's protecting me
or giving me a sign
681
00:42:16,463 --> 00:42:19,466
that my husband was
planning to leave me.
682
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:23,203
Cause I was shocked when he
decided he wanted to walk out.
683
00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:29,810
With the absence of her
husband Toni struggled
684
00:42:29,843 --> 00:42:31,044
to make ends meet,
685
00:42:31,078 --> 00:42:33,580
in order to support
herself and her young son.
686
00:42:34,281 --> 00:42:37,017
That's when I decided
to put my house up for sale.
687
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:41,922
♪
688
00:42:41,955 --> 00:42:44,224
We put the house
on the market.
689
00:42:44,258 --> 00:42:48,795
We found an interested buyer,
contractor actually.
690
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:51,231
He was planning to
tear down and rebuild.
691
00:42:51,265 --> 00:42:54,301
♪
692
00:42:54,334 --> 00:42:56,537
He came for
his inspection.
693
00:42:56,570 --> 00:42:59,473
I wasn't allowed to be
in the house at the time.
694
00:42:59,506 --> 00:43:01,141
I said to
the contractor,
695
00:43:01,175 --> 00:43:04,545
make sure you close the door
behind you and off I went.
696
00:43:06,914 --> 00:43:11,418
Come back home after an hour and
I notice my front door is open.
697
00:43:14,888 --> 00:43:16,056
I walked in.
698
00:43:16,089 --> 00:43:23,630
♪
699
00:43:23,664 --> 00:43:24,031
Hello?
700
00:43:30,771 --> 00:43:31,104
Hello?
701
00:43:35,709 --> 00:43:36,777
Is anybody here?
702
00:43:42,015 --> 00:43:42,616
Hello?
703
00:43:47,821 --> 00:43:48,622
Hello?
704
00:43:53,427 --> 00:43:55,395
And then I look
into my son's room,
705
00:43:55,429 --> 00:43:57,931
and I notice on his
bed all the stuffed animals
706
00:43:57,965 --> 00:43:59,800
on my sons bed
were upside down.
707
00:44:17,985 --> 00:44:20,754
And I looked at the
trunk door and it was open,
708
00:44:20,787 --> 00:44:23,257
and there was an extension
chord with a triple light
709
00:44:23,290 --> 00:44:24,758
leading to
the crawlspace.
710
00:44:24,791 --> 00:44:26,793
Are you here, hello?
711
00:44:33,734 --> 00:44:34,801
Is anyone here?
712
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,447
Hello?
713
00:44:48,448 --> 00:44:49,916
The real estate
agent called me
714
00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:54,354
and said the contractor
is not interested in the house.
715
00:44:54,388 --> 00:44:57,591
And I said
to her ok.
716
00:44:57,624 --> 00:45:00,661
I'm kind of ticked off because
he left the front door open,
717
00:45:00,694 --> 00:45:04,097
he actually left a few tools and
his triple light here turned on.
718
00:45:10,137 --> 00:45:12,873
The contractor says he wants
nothing to do with the house
719
00:45:12,906 --> 00:45:14,975
and the lady is
crazy for living there
720
00:45:15,008 --> 00:45:16,843
and to keep
his tools.
721
00:45:20,847 --> 00:45:26,953
I was like angry and scared and
I didn't know what was going on,
722
00:45:26,987 --> 00:45:30,657
like I thought the house
is possessed or something.
723
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:34,394
Like I can't explain it,
even the real estate
724
00:45:34,428 --> 00:45:37,097
said she couldn't get a
hold of the contractor
725
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:38,965
like she doesn't
know what happened.
726
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:44,071
I feel like there was a
warning and if a spirit
727
00:45:44,104 --> 00:45:46,840
didn't want me to live in
that house, or my son.
728
00:45:46,873 --> 00:45:51,678
they would have had me kicked
out as soon as we moved in.
729
00:45:54,514 --> 00:45:56,516
I think that they
want me to stay.
730
00:45:58,919 --> 00:46:02,356
So I just decided that,
I'm just going to stay here,
731
00:46:02,389 --> 00:46:05,892
and since then my house
has been really quiet.
732
00:46:05,926 --> 00:46:08,362
We feel like we're
safe there now
57200
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