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There's an evil entity in the
house. You're about to see real
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people. I was terrified beyond
belief. Wow. Reliving
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horrifying paranormal
encounters for the first time.
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I truly felt it was like living
in hell. When ghost children
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come out to play. That picture
turned out to be very evil. I
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buried this for nearly 30
years. Be prepared to be
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afraid.
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We purchased our property in
1998 and we tore down the old
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home place and build ours in
September of ninety-nine. I
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quit my job as a draftsman that
I had been working for almost
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11 years and quit to stay at
home and raise my little man.
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Jeremy was about two years old
when he had really start
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articulating his words. I'd go
back and I said, what are you
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doing, Bob? And he's a plan
with EY and I said, who's Eli,
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my friend? And I said, oh, okay
and so, I had been told by many
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friends that had children that
they have imaginary friends.
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I'd be like, okay, what's Eli
look like? He has the same
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color hair as Aunt Tam which is
a natural blonde. My sister is
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a very blonde blonde. He has
eyes your color. So, blue eyes,
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I would assume. He said and he
wears belts on his shoulders. I
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said, that's pretty
descriptive, you know, and he's
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like, he's my friend. I thought
it was a normal result of a
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only child. But Mandy was about
to discover there was nothing
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ordinary about Eli.
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That day, my son was at school
and I was home alone, cleaning
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house, doing my normal mommy
chores.
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And I heard this just little
laugh. It was plain as day.
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And I thought and you know I'm
like did I just hear that?
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No.
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Of course, nothing's there. I
didn't know if it was
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paranormal or if it was my
brain. And Mandy's doubts would
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be tested again just a few
nights later. It was a normal
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weeknight. My husband was in
bed next to me. He was already
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asleep. My son was in bed.
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Mommy. And right in my right
ear on this side of the bed it
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would sound like a small child
saying mommy I was terrified
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and I was just like, what's my
son doing up? What's Jeremy
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doing up? You know, I do the
whole what are you doing awake?
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He's not there. I did downplay
a lot of it because I just
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figured that hey, unless I have
concrete evidence, unless I
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have it in front of me, it
doesn't exist. Mandy became
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more worried when she started
to hear adult voices too. On
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several occasions, when I would
be at home alone, I would hear
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what sounded like muffled
conversations between a male
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and a female, almost as in an
argument.
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And I'd hear a footstep down
the hallway. Something in my
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son's room. He had this little
toy piano. I would hear playing
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music.
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I I felt like I was losing my
mind. My husband would come
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home from work. I would tell
him these things and he just,
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you know, roll the eyes and be
like, you know what? Your son's
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at school all day, you're
alone, your brain's creating
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these noises. I said, you're
probably right.
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I have an old German wooden
music box.
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And I'd hear it play and I'd go
in and the lid would be open on
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my dresser.
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I know that that lid can't open
on its own. You have to open
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the hinge of the music box to
get it to play. Nobody was
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believing me. My husband just
thought I was a nut job and you
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know, my son quit having
experiences. He was already at
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the age of where nothing was
really happening to him anymore
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and I thought, why am I still
hearing this stuff?
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So I was grasping at straws. I
was looking for any way to get
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rid of it.
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Just lashed out one day. Show
yourself. Show yourself.
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There stood a boy about four or
five years old. Exactly what my
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son described.
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I just saw the kid that my son
described as Eli.
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It just I'm thinking there is
this possible is this even
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possible and I I was so torn
with it I was so scared so many
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questions unanswered I need to
know who this kid is. I need to
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know why he's here and how did
he die? Started looking up deed
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records for the property. The
family that lived there in the
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1860s and 1870s was in fact the
Daher family. They had came
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here from Germany. Had a 13
children. Noticed five of the
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children had died on the
property. From being beat They
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had neck and head trauma.
Started going through the
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children's names. Elijah Daher
went by Eli Dahrenberger. I was
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floored I had you know,
concrete evidence in front of
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me of what had actually
happened on my property.
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Child's spirits are more likely
to stay earth bound after
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traumatic death such as a
murder because they're not
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really sure where they are at
the time of death and it's
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really difficult for them to
cross over. They're not really
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sure of the process needed.
Basically, child's spirits are
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also still looking for their
parents. They're looking for
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their loved ones and when they
cross over after traumatic
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death like that. They're unable
to find their family. So, often
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times they're wandering and
looking for an answer or
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solution on where their family
is. Dealing with the spirit of
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little Eli had been traumatic
enough for Mandy but nothing
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could have prepared her for
what happened next. My husband
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had went to work, son was at
school, and I go into the
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bathroom to get a shower.
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You.
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Mandy Joyce had uncovered
historical documents that
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appeared to prove the existence
of her son's imaginary friend.
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Show yourself.
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But things were about to get
worse. I go into the bathroom
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to get a shower.
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Spirits knocking stuff off the
bathroom, shelves.
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And I just kept getting some
more fear. Just I was so
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scared.
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I kept, I was praying. I was
praying to god. I was like,
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god, just get me through this.
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And there stands the silhouette
of this man He had a big tall
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hat but he was all black.
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And I throw my tear up in a
towel. I throw on some pajama
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bottoms and he drove me out of
my house that day. When
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somebody leaves a home or
abandons their house because
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there's a haunting going on.
It's possible that the spirit
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kind of gains power from that
situation at least
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psychologically they feel that
they've won in that scenario.
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It's believe that the best
thing to do when you have a
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haunting is to stay in the home
not to surrender your property
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and your life to the spirit to
but to confront that and
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perform a house blessing and
remove the haunting. Went to my
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friend's house and I was
scared. I cried all the way
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into town. And she said, you
need to cleanse. She said, get
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a hold of Jackie, you need to
cleanse ASAP. When I go into a
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place, sometimes like pictures
pop into my head and I just
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would see like certain things
whenever I'd walk through her
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house.
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The the energy just hit you. It
was so heavy and just you could
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tell that there was there was
something. You always felt like
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something was watching you or
if you walked around the
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corner, something was going to
pop out at you. She told me
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that there was a man. You know,
you could tell that that man
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was not nice. The father was
not a good person. That was
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very stern and ruled with an
iron fist. She smudged with
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smoke. We went to every room,
every corner of house and as we
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moved through the house it just
got heavier and heavier the
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energy and once we moved from
the upstairs to the downstairs
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I could feel him there I knew
he was down there and once we
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got down there I just wanted to
warn him let him know this is
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what's this is what's happening
he's he's somewhere around here
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he's not happy that he's pissed
that we're doing this
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I saw this black, the same
black wispy mist that I saw in
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this figure in my bathroom.
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And the whole time I'm just
saying the Lord's prayer. I'm
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saying a prayer over my home.
I'm saying a prayer over my son
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and my husband. I saw it lunge
out like as a hand.
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I had her help me to yell at it
and tell it it's leaving now.
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And then finally, it just.
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It's like a bubble pops and it
just lifts. Everything lifts
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and it's very light and
everything is just gone and
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quiet. I learned that spirits
are very real, that not all
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spirits are nice. I learned
that if you think it's there,
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you're not crazy. It may be
hard to believe but Mandy got
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away lightly. At least the
ghost of a murdered child in
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her home did not physically
harm Mandy or her family. Frank
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Madrid cannot say the same of
his experience.
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Sticks.
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Because my dad was in the navy.
We ended up in national city.
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National city is a city that's
close to San Diego. Kinda like
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Victorian houses but small and
you know, everything there I
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remember was just old. It had a
good creep factor to it.
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One day I was riding my bike
and I saw this little boy of
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this house that was on the
corner. So I just rode over
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there and said hi to him and we
started talking and he was kind
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of lonely and scared. He was
very quiet, very introverted.
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The house that he lived in, all
the doors were boarded up. It
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was kind of strange. We didn't
really think anything of it and
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then to hear the laughter of
this little kid.
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In 1967, Frank Madrid's family
had just moved to a new city.
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Making friends after you're
moving around a lot is it's
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it's it's kind of hit and miss.
Our father was in the navy and
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we moved around. Um Frank was
born on the other side of the
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country in Virginia. I had no
friends in the neighborhood.
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One day I was riding my bike
and I saw this little boy of
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this house that was on the
corner so I just rode over
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there and said hi to him and we
started talking and I thought
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he was a friendly kid. I
thought he was kind of lonely
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and scared for some reason. He
was very quiet, very
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introverted. Said our goodbyes.
I went back home.
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And the next day I'm riding my
bike and I see him again so
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went over and started talking
to him our father was gone a
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lot and everyone else was
younger than he was so he kind
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of latched on to the first
friend that he could make
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wanting so desperately to have
somebody to socialize with to
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play with you know I believe it
got very intense very quickly
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and after a while of talking to
him a few days you know he
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started lightning up and you
know we'd make each other laugh
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and and you know it was kind of
like a normal child
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relationship you know we we
would play and laugh Frank
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enjoyed having a new friend
even one who seemed a little
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strange I never saw him pick up
anything He would just use his
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fingers for guns and stuff and
I had plastic ones. He never
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would touch those. There were
some times where I'd bring some
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toys over so we could play but
he would never ever grab any of
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them. He wouldn't play with
them. He just seemed to be
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kind of scared that you know, I
think he was it it kind of
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almost kind of seemed like he
was afraid that his parents
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would find out that he was
playing with me or my toys. So,
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that's kind of impression I got
from him. But being as young as
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I was, I really didn't pay
attention to it because I
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didn't want to lose my friend.
You know, I didn't want to
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cause any kind of problems.
Nevertheless, it was becoming
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increasingly obvious to Frank
that his new friend had
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something to hide. You know,
you you get tired and work up a
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sweat and get hot and thirsty
and you know, just
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Nonchalantly, hey, can I get a
drink of water? No.
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Why can't I have a drink of
water? Well, you can't go in
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the house. Well, why can't I go
in the house? Because my
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parents aren't allowing anybody
in the house. I go well can you
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go get me a drink of water? No.
Why not? Cuz I can't go in the
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house right now. So, you know,
this is really confusing to
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little kid. You know, I want to
drink water. You won't get it
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for me. You know, you kind of
get a little upset, you know.
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Well, I'm going to go home and
I'm going to get my own drink
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of water. The argument over the
glass of water had an immediate
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impact on the boy's friendship.
Things did change after that.
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He was more withdrawn into
himself and he didn't really
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laugh anymore. We couldn't just
have fun like we were having
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fun before. One day, went over
there to play and you know, so
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the first time in a long time,
he was excited because he told
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me I found something. Well,
what did you find? Well, I
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found an axle over here. So, we
went over there and he showed
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me where he found this old,
small hatchet.
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And I remember it being just
you know really old and ancient
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and and rusty and just you know
laying there half buried in the
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dirt he told me you know pick
it up let's go let's go chop
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something I said no I'm not
going to pick it up and he
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kind of got upset and he was
you know really forceful he
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picked the thing up let's go
over here and chop some wood to
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appease his request it's like
okay pick it up
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and followed him over to this
little log that was laying
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there. And he's telling me to
chop it and I'm thinking I
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better not you know why don't
you chop it he goes I can't why
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can't you? I just can't. So, I
said, alright, I'll chop it.
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So, I got the accent.
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It was 1967 in National City,
California when young Frank
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Madrid made a new friend. But
his new buddy had started
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acting very oddly. Why don't
you chop him? He goes, I can't.
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Oh, why can't you? I just
can't. So, I said, alright,
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I'll chop it. So, I got the
accent.
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The tip of the axe hit the dirt
and the gravel and the wood and
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I had some gravel fly up into
my eye. Immediately everything
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went white with big gloves of
red.
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I ran home screaming because I
couldn't see out of my eye
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anymore. The one thing that I
remember that I won't ever
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forget was the horrible
laughter that he was laughing
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when I was running home
screaming.
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And that laughter followed me
all the way home. When I got
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home, they my folks took me to
the hospital and I've had nine
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major operations on it and four
minor ones after that. They
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didn't have the technology that
they do these days so they
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really couldn't reattach the
retina. The incident left Frank
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blind in his right eye for the
rest of his life. Are you
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comfortable taking your glasses
off and talking about it
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because I'm. I can't see you
but there I am. So
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Do what it is. Plastic.
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When I would hear about Frank's
accident, it always was
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centered around this boy on the
corner. I mean, there's just so
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many things that I couldn't
understand at the time because
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I was too young. And you think
about about things that
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happened. The clothing that he
wore, red and white striped
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shirt, blue jeans rolled up at
the cuffs, and the black
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high-top tennis shoes with the
white balls on the side. This
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kid, all the days that I've
seen him, those are the same
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clothes he wore all the time.
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The house that he lived in,
nobody lives there. It's
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abandoned. My childhood friend,
this kid that nobody else could
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see but me was was a spirit
kid.
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Children haven't been
conditioned by their parents or
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society to not believe in the
paranormal. What's part of
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their reality basically,
child's spirits when they're
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dealing with human children
really come across as valid and
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legitimate. They don't seem to
be a spirit and the children
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are very open-minded and
accepting of them. He was very
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open to it. He was, I mean, I
don't want to use the word
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desperate because it sounds
negative but in this situation,
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it makes sense that he was
desperate to make a friend to
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have some kind of companionship
there in a place where he knew
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nobody. I think the little boy
died in that house and I think
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the parents were so distraught
about it that they moved away.
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And his energy is still there,
his soul and spirit, however
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you want to say it. So he went
to what was familiar and what
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was familiar was that house.
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And everyone back to the house
to his house to see if he was
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there or not. Uh I wanted to
stay away from that place. I
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didn't want nothing to do with
him. Or anything. I mean that
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laughter was still in my head.
And there's no way that you
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know to this day I I can't
forget it.
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Many years later, Frank had
another paranormal encounter.
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It seemed like we had met
before. I go and talk to him
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and as I'm talking to him,
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He starts to fade and I can see
through him and then he just
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vanishes right before my eyes.
Just gone. Very well could be
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the little boy on the corner as
a man. It's possible that the
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child's spirit aged somehow on
the other side and return to
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visit him to show him that you
know here I am. I've grown up
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with you and it's good to see
you again type of scenario but
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it's also possible that that
child's spirit maybe had
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another spirit go and visit him
in an adult form because it was
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more socially acceptable or
understandable. This gentleman
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just standing there in the
middle of of the road there.
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Looking directly at Frank.
There was some knowledge of who
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he was. Since their childhood
friendship was so intense that
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there would have been more. If
the axe incident was
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intentional, I would expect
that person to say, gotcha and
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if it was unintentional and if
it was just a fluke, then I
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would also expect to say, I'm
really sorry that that happened
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to you and not just faded away
as he got close. There's just
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too much unfinished business
there. That's kind of an evil
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to do. Frank will never forget
this episode of his life. His
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injury reminds him of his
ghostly friend everyday. When
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people tell you ghosts can't
hurt you, they can cause and
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affect harm to you. That'll
haunt me as for as, you know,
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as long as I live. It's just
something like that.
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The presence of the spirits of
dead children should never be
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ignored. They are often the
first sign that a portal to the
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spirit world has been opened.
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Not a mark. Mark.
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My husband had lost his job due
to a back injury. I was
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diagnosed a long time ago with
Crohn's disease but I gotten
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really sick, couldn't work
anymore. We needed a place to
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stay so we decided we take the
house. It used to be what they
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call veterans housing. We had
our first son together. His
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name is Jordan. When we moved
into the house. The first thing
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I remember is we couldn't get
our mattress up the stairs. Um
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it was too narrow of an area.
We had to sleep all the sofa
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bed. I woke up to smelling like
flowers, like roses.
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I'm a Christian and it was
always said that if you smell
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flowers or roses, it could be
the Holy Spirit so I tried to
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maybe think it was something
like that but it didn't feel
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refreshing because it smelt
more like when you go to a
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funeral home like death.
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It reminded me of death.
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It was very uneasy. Um it was
uneasy that I made the
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statement all the time that I
don't feel like this is at
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home. I can't put my finger on.
I just couldn't figure it out
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what it was about the house.
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The family had not been living
in the house long before Don
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noticed Jordan was displaying
some disturbing behavior.
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Jordan was playing on the
stairs inside the hallway. At
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the bottom of the stairs was a
rocking chair. Jordan got in
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the chair and would swing back
and forth and say, baby hurt,
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baby hurt. Over and over again
and I'd say, Jordan, what do
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you mean by that? And he said,
the baby got hurt. He said,
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yeah, there's a little girl
standing there at the top of
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the stairs.
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And I had no idea what he was
talking about.
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And I said I don't see her. He
said, look mama, there's Ally.
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Ally was my neighbor's daughter
that passed away. I had heard
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about my neighbor's daughter
probably about a month after
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living there. She had died at
four. She was only 4 years old.
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It it was just some sort of
weird virus and medication but
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she had died in the house.
Jordan did not know who she was
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or her name. A There was no way
that he knew but that wasn't
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the first time he told me
things that there was no way he
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could possibly know.
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With Jordan's behavior on her
mind, Dawn confided in a new
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friend. She had ended up
telling me that she was into
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witchcraft. She started to say
me, well maybe if you use tarot
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cards, you can get some
answers. She gave me a book and
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she gave me the cards and I
took them home and I started
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playing with them.
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I would ask questions to the
cards. I just kept wondering
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if, you know, he was really
seeing Ally, what he was really
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seeing.
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It can be dangerous for people
to use spiritual divination
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tools such as tarot if they
don't have the knowledge or
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know how and and how to use
these items. You can open
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doorways. Um hauntings can
begin. Entities can come
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through and actually attach
themselves to the people that
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are using these tools. Don't
dabbling with the tarot cards
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seem to make the situation
worse. With Jordan, his room
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was very uncomfortable for
everybody. Nobody could stay in
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that room. Jordan didn't
want to sleep in that room. One
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time he told me he saw a whole
family. It was a mother, a son,
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and a daughter with bullet
wounds in their head.
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And then all of a sudden all
those were gone and the only
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one there was one he called the
man.
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Don Pearce's family had moved
into a new home and immediately
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started experiencing paranormal
activity. Don's young son had
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started seeing the ghost of a
child. Then, he started seeing
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other phantoms in his bedroom.
One time he told me he saw a
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whole family, it was a mother,
a son, and a daughter with
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bullet wounds in their head.
And then all of a sudden, all
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those were gone and the only
one there was one he called the
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man.
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And the man wasn't very nice.
And the man said some terrible
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things and the man told him to
tell me horrific things.
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He says the man told me to tell
you as long as you live here,
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he's going to keep you sick and
make sure you stay sick.
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My husband's like, why don't
you throw a recorder in
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Jordan's room and see what you
get? So I said, okay, that's a
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good idea. I put the recorder
in the room. Nobody was home
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and I put it on top of Bible.
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And when I went and I rewinded
my recorder and listened, I
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heard the worst. I can't even
it it still plays it was like
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the most blood curdling thing I
heard it say.
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It was just like the most
evilest thing I've ever heard
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like it's engraved in my brain
to this day. It was scary
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because I'm thinking what did I
do to open these doors?
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Terrified, Dawn started looking
into ways of protecting her
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family. I just kind of learned
about some prayers of
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protection and one of them was
Psalm ninety-one. My son was
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taking a bath.
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And all of a sudden it was like
his eyes looked different like
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he looked sinister. And he
seemed to get like super strong
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and it wasn't wasn't him. I
knew it wasn't him.
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The lord is my shepherd I shall
not walk he make it me to lie
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down in green in pastures
surely So I opened the Bible
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and I started reading Psalm
ninety-one as I did. He started
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thrashing around in the tub and
he's like you shut up you dumb
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whore **** Call me all kinds of
names. Lord is my shepherd. I
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shall not want keeping me to
lie down in the green pastures.
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He lead us. And eventually it
stopped. It might have been
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just one or two minutes but it
seemed like the the longest one
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or two minutes. And when it
broke he started crying and he
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said mommy mommy that wasn't
me. That wasn't me.
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When you're trying to protect
your child, you do anything to
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protect them but when you can't
see or physically feel what's
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attacking them, you can feel
hopeless and helpless. At this
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point, Dawn was desperate to
get help for her son. And at
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that time, that's when I met
Joe. She was telling us that
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she believed that her home was
haunted and that her son was
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seeing things and he was
talking to spirits. Dawn had
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mentioned a couple of different
smells in the house. Just
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before spirit may show up, you
will smell a flower of some
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sort and and most usually roses
and lilacs. Jordan believe that
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a little spirit, a little
female was speaking to him. A
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child could relate to a child's
spirit. The spirit of a girl
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that had passed away was trying
to come through and the only
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way she could get anybody's
attention was to go with
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somebody that was more on her
mentality, a more on her
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wavelength, which would be
another child. As the
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unraveling started and I
started asking a bunch of
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questions, then certain things
were like, okay, tarot cards.
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She had dabbled into a few
things and then everything was
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done and get put back into
perspective. If somebody is
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playing with tarot cards,
they're divination tools. Those
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are tools to communicate with
those that have passed. A lot
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of times, people just play with
cards every so often, somebody
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makes a connection and the door
does open.
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We have this thing in in the
paranormal that if if something
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comes back, sometimes it could
come back two, three times
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worse than it was originally.
Valley of the shadows of death,
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00:38:57,281 --> 00:39:02,961
I will fear no evil. It sounded
like that's what happened.
442
00:39:03,661 --> 00:39:09,041
The game plan was to go find
something. Something was there.
443
00:39:09,041 --> 00:39:11,841
We would try to pull it out. If
not, we'd like to get some sort
444
00:39:11,841 --> 00:39:15,921
of evidence, just something to
go on to show us that there is
445
00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:20,461
something supernatural
happening in the home. We spent
446
00:39:20,461 --> 00:39:24,061
about, I'd say a good four,
five hours of investigating.
447
00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:29,581
The very last sequence was in
the basement.
448
00:39:33,161 --> 00:39:37,021
We set up cameras. We set up
our video equipment. We took
449
00:39:37,021 --> 00:39:40,221
lots of pictures.
450
00:39:44,161 --> 00:39:47,701
I didn't have a good feeling
going into the basement. I
451
00:39:47,701 --> 00:39:51,701
kind of felt it's almost like
when you have the hair in the
452
00:39:51,701 --> 00:39:54,381
back of your neck stand up. It
was one of those things and I'm
453
00:39:54,381 --> 00:39:57,061
like you know what? Uh let's go
down here and let's check this
454
00:39:57,061 --> 00:40:02,381
out. Initially, I don't like to
hit people with prayer right
455
00:40:02,381 --> 00:40:05,501
off the bat. I don't want to
come off as anybody that's too
456
00:40:05,501 --> 00:40:08,621
religious or trying to make
something out of nothing. My
457
00:40:08,621 --> 00:40:11,981
shepherd, I shall not want. But
I felt compelled to pray into
458
00:40:11,981 --> 00:40:14,541
the house in in into the
basement and that's what we
459
00:40:14,541 --> 00:40:19,821
did. Still waters. He restored
me.
460
00:40:21,661 --> 00:40:26,961
And when Joe had called me
about two days later and said I
461
00:40:26,961 --> 00:40:29,761
got something to play for you.
You're going to you know it's
462
00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:33,921
going to knock your socks off
basically.
463
00:40:35,661 --> 00:40:39,841
At the very end of the tape,
just before it ran out, I heard
464
00:40:39,841 --> 00:40:43,121
us saying the prayer.
465
00:40:43,661 --> 00:40:49,621
And you are no longer welcome
here, evil spirit. And you know
466
00:40:49,621 --> 00:40:53,301
you must obey our commands.
467
00:41:10,161 --> 00:41:14,421
Dawn Pierce's life changed when
her son Jordan began seeing the
468
00:41:14,421 --> 00:41:19,421
ghost of a child in their home.
Run us over. Shoot me. After
469
00:41:19,421 --> 00:41:22,901
unsuccessfully trying to get
rid of the spirit herself, Don
470
00:41:22,901 --> 00:41:25,861
called in professional
paranormal investigator, Joe
471
00:41:25,861 --> 00:41:31,621
Citron. The very end of the
tape, just before it ran out, I
472
00:41:31,621 --> 00:41:37,721
heard us saying the prayer. And
you are no longer welcome here
473
00:41:37,721 --> 00:41:45,381
evil spirit. And you know you
must obey our commands.
474
00:41:46,161 --> 00:41:52,301
And right during that time over
what we were saying was a loud
475
00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:56,741
growl. In human growl that
sound like a meal being kicked.
476
00:41:56,741 --> 00:42:01,701
I mean you know you must obey
our commands. It was just the
477
00:42:01,701 --> 00:42:08,301
most god awful, loud scream
like an animal was being
478
00:42:08,301 --> 00:42:12,501
tortured. And you know you must
obey our commands. It is
479
00:42:12,501 --> 00:42:16,661
definitely an inhuman sound
that came over that recorder.
480
00:42:16,661 --> 00:42:21,541
But I felt relieved because it
validated what we've been going
481
00:42:21,541 --> 00:42:26,461
through. There is something
supernatural happening in the
482
00:42:26,461 --> 00:42:28,861
home.
483
00:42:29,661 --> 00:42:33,201
Not long after Joe had
investigated the home, the
484
00:42:33,201 --> 00:42:37,121
Pierce family were spending a
normal evening together. Come
485
00:42:37,121 --> 00:42:39,841
here Joe.
486
00:42:41,301 --> 00:42:46,401
My husband, me, and Jordan were
in my bedroom. My husband was
487
00:42:46,401 --> 00:42:49,361
on the computer. I was laying
on the bed with Jordan and I
488
00:42:49,361 --> 00:42:51,361
was reading through the Bible
and I started to read it out
489
00:42:51,361 --> 00:42:54,241
loud to him.
490
00:43:02,441 --> 00:43:06,501
And he started trashing around
on the bed and hitting me and
491
00:43:06,501 --> 00:43:11,701
you know yelling obscenities.
492
00:43:22,661 --> 00:43:27,981
And I yelled, Mark, Mark, come
over here, help me. He came
493
00:43:27,981 --> 00:43:30,941
over and he was restraining
Jordan and he said to me, just
494
00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:34,461
keep reading, just keep going.
495
00:43:36,661 --> 00:43:39,961
He he was very strong and then
all of a sudden he just
496
00:43:39,961 --> 00:43:42,841
stopped.
497
00:43:46,161 --> 00:43:51,621
Cried and again, you know,
explaining that was not him.
498
00:43:55,161 --> 00:43:58,461
And I didn't know what to do
with Jordan at that point. I
499
00:43:58,461 --> 00:44:06,741
just sitting there frustrated.
And that must be hard for you.
500
00:44:06,741 --> 00:44:13,901
You know, were you blaming your
son? I was blaming myself. What
501
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:17,741
did I do to open these doors?
502
00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:29,541
I felt like my curiosity maybe
opened it but I knew that there
503
00:44:29,541 --> 00:44:34,701
was something there from when
we moved in. Things just
504
00:44:34,701 --> 00:44:39,981
weren't going to get any better
and we had had enough.
505
00:44:45,161 --> 00:44:48,941
We spent four years in the
house so there was a lot of
506
00:44:48,941 --> 00:44:52,141
different things that happened.
He was young at the time and I
507
00:44:52,141 --> 00:44:57,661
thought maybe he would forget
but he still hasn't forgotten.
508
00:45:04,161 --> 00:45:09,141
It was my first child and
509
00:45:10,661 --> 00:45:17,521
I I just I still blame myself
because He has problems with
510
00:45:17,521 --> 00:45:22,401
PTSD and you can't tell a
psychiatrist he wants to tell
511
00:45:22,401 --> 00:45:29,281
somebody why he's the way he is
and instead, he has to deal
512
00:45:29,281 --> 00:45:33,681
with medication. He'll be
thirteen but now he's been back
513
00:45:33,681 --> 00:45:36,161
to out on sleeping on the
couch. He doesn't want to sleep
514
00:45:36,161 --> 00:45:39,441
in his own room. After what
he's experienced, he wants to
515
00:45:39,441 --> 00:45:45,441
go back in my room. He can't
sleep without the lights on.
516
00:45:46,161 --> 00:45:52,501
He could still hear things. He
can't see them. Um he's become
517
00:45:52,501 --> 00:45:57,461
a little bit more closed off
but he's very paranoid. Um very
518
00:45:57,461 --> 00:46:04,901
anxious. A lot of anxiety. Um
519
00:46:05,661 --> 00:46:10,481
I thank god that we did move. I
didn't want to keep living
520
00:46:10,481 --> 00:46:15,841
there and live to be tortured
every day. There's an evil
521
00:46:15,841 --> 00:46:19,681
entity in the house. You are
about to see real people. I was
522
00:46:19,681 --> 00:46:23,441
terrified beyond belief.
Reliving horrifying paranormal
523
00:46:23,441 --> 00:46:28,481
encounters for the first time.
And there was this dark image
524
00:46:28,481 --> 00:46:32,961
right behind me. There's no
mistaken that is a human body.
525
00:46:32,961 --> 00:46:37,821
As ghost soldiers come back to
haunt the living. He was a a
526
00:46:37,821 --> 00:46:43,821
warrior up to this country. I
buried this for nearly 30
527
00:46:43,821 --> 00:46:49,021
years. Be prepared to be
afraid.
528
00:47:02,661 --> 00:47:08,281
Story 18, Ben, take two,
marker.
529
00:47:12,161 --> 00:47:17,221
I am a retired Marine doing
nearly twenty-four years in the
530
00:47:17,221 --> 00:47:20,741
Marine Corps and by every three
or four years, the Marine Corps
531
00:47:20,741 --> 00:47:24,541
moves you, your whole
household. It uproots you.
532
00:47:24,541 --> 00:47:27,861
Connecticut was open and I
said, well, I'll take to
533
00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:32,821
Connecticut because my wife is
from Connecticut. Constantly
534
00:47:32,821 --> 00:47:36,181
moving wasn't the hardest part
of Ben's job. Among his
535
00:47:36,181 --> 00:47:39,381
responsibilities was the sad
duty of informing the next of
536
00:47:39,381 --> 00:47:45,361
Ken when a soldier had died in
combat. Then when we start the
537
00:47:45,361 --> 00:47:48,881
procedure of getting the
remains home, I get to the
538
00:47:48,881 --> 00:47:51,761
funeral home, eye open to make
sure it's uniform and
539
00:47:51,761 --> 00:47:54,641
everything is correct. Imma
make sure he's ready for
540
00:47:54,641 --> 00:48:01,681
presentation and then I'm there
with the family every day.
541
00:48:04,661 --> 00:48:08,201
We're looking for a place to
live at now in Connecticut to
542
00:48:08,201 --> 00:48:11,961
to settle down. We were looking
around the state, you know,
543
00:48:11,961 --> 00:48:14,841
some of the nicer areas and
somehow his Email popped up
544
00:48:14,841 --> 00:48:18,921
with this house in Meridian. So
we're like, we'll go check it
545
00:48:18,921 --> 00:48:25,241
out, you know. So as we pulled
in the driveway, we saw this
546
00:48:25,241 --> 00:48:31,701
huge barn in the back. Ben and
his wife Janice experienced a
547
00:48:31,701 --> 00:48:35,701
strong draw towards the barn.
548
00:48:48,661 --> 00:48:52,441
There was the people had packed
up all their tubs and stuck
549
00:48:52,441 --> 00:48:57,001
them out there and now said
Janice on it which was my
550
00:48:57,001 --> 00:49:00,761
wife's name and took that as a
sign first of all that her name
551
00:49:00,761 --> 00:49:04,601
was on it all over the inside
the barn
552
00:49:09,161 --> 00:49:13,021
So when we went in the house to
see the family who owned the
553
00:49:13,021 --> 00:49:17,901
house, a gentleman and his wife
turned out he was a marine. So
554
00:49:17,901 --> 00:49:23,341
with all those signs we said no
this must be the house.
555
00:49:25,161 --> 00:49:28,701
Uh we bought the house in
December and ended up moving in
556
00:49:28,701 --> 00:49:33,741
in January but I wasn't sure
what I was going to do with the
557
00:49:33,741 --> 00:49:41,701
barn. And suddenly it just
started coming to me and I
558
00:49:41,701 --> 00:49:46,501
started hanging up my flags
that we've flown in falluja we
559
00:49:46,501 --> 00:49:51,701
started putting up things on
the walls just of of my time in
560
00:49:51,701 --> 00:49:54,581
in the marines
561
00:49:59,161 --> 00:50:03,661
We have pictures of everybody
who was killed while we're over
562
00:50:03,661 --> 00:50:08,941
there. Um of everybody who had
to notify their families. Uh
563
00:50:08,941 --> 00:50:11,741
those who have come back and
have committed suicide. We've
564
00:50:11,741 --> 00:50:14,941
added them to their pictures to
the wall. So when people come
565
00:50:14,941 --> 00:50:18,941
up there they can see them. Um
remember them the way they
566
00:50:18,941 --> 00:50:23,181
were. The barn became a
memorial to the soldiers that
567
00:50:23,181 --> 00:50:27,741
Ben had encountered during his
military career.
568
00:50:28,861 --> 00:50:32,361
I
569
00:50:33,661 --> 00:50:38,001
As Ben settled into his new
home, he continued to be drawn
570
00:50:38,001 --> 00:50:43,061
to the barn. There's times you
can go up there and it's just
571
00:50:43,061 --> 00:50:48,881
kind of odd. And the wind
started picking up. Started
572
00:50:48,881 --> 00:50:54,081
hearing the dogs running back
and forth upstairs in the barn.
573
00:50:54,081 --> 00:50:58,081
So we went to go check on the
dogs.
574
00:50:59,661 --> 00:51:02,721
And the dogs weren't up there.
There was nobody there. There
575
00:51:02,721 --> 00:51:08,281
was nothing there. Came back
downstairs and the wind and
576
00:51:08,281 --> 00:51:11,401
everything just stopped.
577
00:51:15,161 --> 00:51:20,141
I was in my house one night
about 9 930 when I suddenly get
578
00:51:20,141 --> 00:51:23,181
I get these feelings when my
hair stands up and say I need
579
00:51:23,181 --> 00:51:26,221
to come out to the barn.
580
00:51:28,661 --> 00:51:33,641
I have no explanation for it.
It's just I get a sense and I
581
00:51:33,641 --> 00:51:36,601
go out to the barn.
582
00:51:38,161 --> 00:51:43,701
Ben was certain that he had
heard footsteps upstairs.
583
00:51:53,661 --> 00:51:58,161
You can clearly hear footsteps
are running back and forth up
584
00:51:58,161 --> 00:52:01,921
there shuffling.
585
00:52:05,161 --> 00:52:09,661
And the wind and everything
just stopped.
586
00:52:13,661 --> 00:52:17,601
And then as I looked on the
wall, one of the pictures of
587
00:52:17,601 --> 00:52:23,361
the guys that were had been
taken off the nail
588
00:52:27,161 --> 00:52:30,621
And when you look at that
little edge, ledge there,
589
00:52:30,621 --> 00:52:34,781
there's no way it could have
fell that far.
590
00:52:37,661 --> 00:52:43,201
It was obviously taken down set
and it was off the nail not
591
00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,981
only was off the nail but the
nail was gone I said
592
00:52:46,981 --> 00:52:49,301
something's wrong and I
couldn't figure out what and I
593
00:52:49,301 --> 00:52:55,861
I sat there for a little while
and I said something's happened
594
00:52:55,861 --> 00:53:02,501
to somebody or somebody's going
in that spot
595
00:53:05,161 --> 00:53:08,781
and it's not going to be a
marine. With the time I was
596
00:53:08,781 --> 00:53:10,941
very concerned because my
oldest son was in Afghanistan
597
00:53:10,941 --> 00:53:13,901
in the army.
598
00:53:15,661 --> 00:53:19,681
Ben was deeply troubled but did
his best to put the worrying
599
00:53:19,681 --> 00:53:24,681
thoughts out of his mind. The
next day I went to a benefit
600
00:53:24,681 --> 00:53:28,441
concert someone comes up to me
says hey Ben we have a mother
601
00:53:28,441 --> 00:53:32,761
over here and she's crying do
you mind talking to her I say
602
00:53:32,761 --> 00:53:35,881
yeah absolutely I'm talking to
her and turned out that her son
603
00:53:35,881 --> 00:53:41,481
was in the army he had lost
both legs in Afghanistan came
604
00:53:41,481 --> 00:53:45,401
back and got killed in a car
accident so I was trying to
605
00:53:45,401 --> 00:53:48,761
make her feel better and and
talking to her about the bar
606
00:53:48,761 --> 00:53:53,161
and and she goes well I have a
picture of him can you hang in
607
00:53:53,161 --> 00:53:55,641
barn.
608
00:53:57,661 --> 00:54:01,041
So I brought it back. This was
the next day after that night
609
00:54:01,041 --> 00:54:04,961
at the barn. So I brought that
back and I put that picture. So
610
00:54:04,961 --> 00:54:10,881
it's almost the crazy
coincidences, I don't know but
611
00:54:10,881 --> 00:54:16,001
I mean, the barn told me there
was going to be somebody.
612
00:54:22,161 --> 00:54:26,581
My mind starts saying, okay, am
I imagining this stuff? Am I
613
00:54:26,581 --> 00:54:29,701
making this stuff up for
myself? You know, because of
614
00:54:29,701 --> 00:54:34,581
being in a war so many times or
and I almost thought, do I need
615
00:54:34,581 --> 00:54:38,021
to go to psychiatrist?
616
00:54:40,661 --> 00:54:48,041
And I had this barn gathering.
I do it once a year and Kurt
617
00:54:48,041 --> 00:54:52,761
happened to come to it. He was
a Vietnam era vet. I met Ben
618
00:54:52,761 --> 00:54:56,441
when we were both members of a
veterans organization that was
619
00:54:56,441 --> 00:55:00,601
concerned with fundraising for
veterans activities and he
620
00:55:00,601 --> 00:55:05,641
found out what I do is a a
vocation, paranormal
621
00:55:05,641 --> 00:55:09,881
investigation and we talked
about a few minutes ago, you
622
00:55:09,881 --> 00:55:13,561
know, if you like You know, I
like to come and set up at the
623
00:55:13,561 --> 00:55:19,241
barn. At the time, I wasn't
good with it. Um it was many,
624
00:55:19,241 --> 00:55:23,081
many months before I felt
comfortable with the notion of
625
00:55:23,081 --> 00:55:27,681
him coming and doing the
cameras and I didn't want to
626
00:55:27,681 --> 00:55:32,281
say there's nothing here and
maybe kill it for the families
627
00:55:32,281 --> 00:55:35,801
who did believe. I was still
very neutral but I was at the
628
00:55:35,801 --> 00:55:39,401
point where my head was really
confused on everything that was
629
00:55:39,401 --> 00:55:41,641
happening in the barn and that
so many other people were
630
00:55:41,641 --> 00:55:46,881
noticing also. Ben's hope was
that Kurt would provide answers
631
00:55:46,881 --> 00:55:51,461
to the unexplained events in
the barn. The day of the
632
00:55:51,461 --> 00:55:56,181
investigation, we arrived about
7 o'clock.
633
00:55:58,661 --> 00:56:02,521
We set up our cameras, we set
up recording equipment,
634
00:56:02,521 --> 00:56:06,201
infrared illuminators.
635
00:56:20,161 --> 00:56:25,141
Getting something here. It's
really hot here, Ben.
636
00:56:39,661 --> 00:56:43,441
Turn this off.
637
00:57:05,161 --> 00:57:09,341
Former marine Ben Granger was
having strange experiences in
638
00:57:09,341 --> 00:57:12,141
his barn.
639
00:57:13,661 --> 00:57:17,201
Getting something here. It's
really hot here, Ben. He turned
640
00:57:17,201 --> 00:57:22,001
to a paranormal investigator to
find answers.
641
00:57:23,161 --> 00:57:26,781
I've been investigating the
paranormal for about 35 years.
642
00:57:26,781 --> 00:57:29,741
This was probably the most
intense experience that I
643
00:57:29,741 --> 00:57:33,901
personally had had in all that
time. It definitely wanted to
644
00:57:33,901 --> 00:57:38,781
to let me know it was around
and it did.
645
00:57:50,161 --> 00:57:55,781
But I was basically holy that's
all I can say. We're able to
646
00:57:55,781 --> 00:58:00,901
confirm a lot of the things
that been had claimed. You can
647
00:58:00,901 --> 00:58:04,821
see a dark figure standing to
the left of them. There's no
648
00:58:04,821 --> 00:58:08,901
mistake in that is a human
body.
649
00:58:12,161 --> 00:58:15,381
They realized that they're not
crazy, that there is something
650
00:58:15,381 --> 00:58:19,701
going on there and someone else
was able to prove it. You see
651
00:58:19,701 --> 00:58:23,461
that? Yeah. And just as the
shadow figure passed in front
652
00:58:23,461 --> 00:58:28,781
of Ben, we'd heard the name
Dave loud and clear.
653
00:58:28,781 --> 00:58:31,781
Unbelievable.
654
00:58:32,661 --> 00:58:38,041
The next steps were to bring
Karen Hollis in. Karen Hollis
655
00:58:38,041 --> 00:58:43,221
is a psychic medium with a gift
for contacting spirits. Before
656
00:58:43,221 --> 00:58:48,021
I even got to Ben's house, I
was turning the corner and no
657
00:58:48,021 --> 00:58:51,621
sooner did I turn the corner
than I heard in my backseat of
658
00:58:51,621 --> 00:58:57,781
my vehicle. Hi, I'm Dave. Dave
and that I knew I had a
659
00:58:57,781 --> 00:59:02,581
discordant spirit with me
already. Karen as a
660
00:59:02,581 --> 00:59:08,061
clairaudient medium has the
ability to make contact with
661
00:59:08,061 --> 00:59:12,661
deceased family members,
deceased friends. She was able
662
00:59:12,661 --> 00:59:16,581
to tell Ben things that she
could not possibly have had
663
00:59:16,581 --> 00:59:20,981
prior knowledge of. My take on
Ben when I when I mentioned it
664
00:59:20,981 --> 00:59:26,501
Dave's name was that he
immediately kind of recoiled
665
00:59:26,501 --> 00:59:30,501
and looked at me in a very
confused way as if to say how
666
00:59:30,501 --> 00:59:37,561
do you know who Dave is? As
Karen began her investigation,
667
00:59:37,561 --> 00:59:41,561
she knew she was not alone.
668
00:59:57,701 --> 01:00:03,281
Dave? I was the first.
669
01:00:04,161 --> 01:00:08,941
And David was the first
casualty that I had to notify
670
01:00:08,941 --> 01:00:14,341
the mother. Karen explained to
Ben that the Barn Memorial had
671
01:00:14,341 --> 01:00:19,941
drawn the spirits of Dave and
other fallen soldiers. I do
672
01:00:19,941 --> 01:00:23,461
believe a memorial acts as an
invitation to open up a portal
673
01:00:23,461 --> 01:00:26,901
for spirits to come back and
come through. Spirits will use
674
01:00:26,901 --> 01:00:30,581
that memorial or that
invitation to maybe get one
675
01:00:30,581 --> 01:00:38,321
last message across. I started
to experience voices, each one
676
01:00:38,321 --> 01:00:43,521
of the men in the barn started
to tell their story one after
677
01:00:43,521 --> 01:00:46,241
the other.
678
01:00:48,161 --> 01:00:53,541
And then I would see and
experience flashes of the
679
01:00:53,541 --> 01:01:00,901
battle of his particular death.
Dave stood by each one of the
680
01:01:00,901 --> 01:01:05,461
young men as they came forward
and he let them tell their
681
01:01:05,461 --> 01:01:14,041
stories first. He was the last
one to tell his story.
682
01:01:31,161 --> 01:01:35,621
Former marine Ben Granger was
having strange experiences in
683
01:01:35,621 --> 01:01:39,861
his barn and had invited in a
medium. She quickly made
684
01:01:39,861 --> 01:01:44,581
contact with one of the
soldiers from Ben's past.
685
01:01:45,161 --> 01:01:52,301
Dave left himself for very last
to tell his story and he spoke
686
01:01:52,301 --> 01:01:59,421
of how he was how he was hit
and how the bullet went and hit
687
01:01:59,421 --> 01:02:04,061
him in the head and how he was
killed he gave me very specific
688
01:02:04,061 --> 01:02:08,301
information to tell Ben knowing
that if he gave me that
689
01:02:08,301 --> 01:02:11,101
evidential information Ben
would know that it was
690
01:02:11,101 --> 01:02:15,941
definitely him and he said to
tell Ben that he specifically
691
01:02:15,941 --> 01:02:20,741
appreciated the fact that Ben
had taken special care to make
692
01:02:20,741 --> 01:02:26,021
sure that the mortician had
worked to cover the left hand
693
01:02:26,021 --> 01:02:31,461
side of his head because it had
taken out a part of his skull
694
01:02:31,461 --> 01:02:37,461
and he did not want his mother
or his father to be upset by
695
01:02:37,461 --> 01:02:41,861
that wound. I knew this because
when I prepared the body for
696
01:02:41,861 --> 01:02:45,621
viewing that the funeral home,
we placed a big white towel
697
01:02:45,621 --> 01:02:48,741
underneath his head to kind of
hide all the bandages where
698
01:02:48,741 --> 01:02:53,401
where the funeral home fixed
him up. So when you looked at
699
01:02:53,401 --> 01:02:56,681
him, you had no idea there was
a hole in the side of his head.
700
01:02:56,681 --> 01:03:00,841
He was the very first one that
I notified when I moved to
701
01:03:00,841 --> 01:03:04,801
Connecticut. I had to go notify
a family that he was killed.
702
01:03:04,801 --> 01:03:09,241
And he almost burst into tears
because he knew it was Dave. He
703
01:03:09,241 --> 01:03:16,121
knew there was no way that it
could be anyone else. Knowing
704
01:03:16,121 --> 01:03:19,081
that the ghost soldiers were
sending positive messages, Ben
705
01:03:19,081 --> 01:03:22,121
was reassured they meant no
harm. He felt the spirit
706
01:03:22,121 --> 01:03:26,281
supported his efforts to honour
them.
707
01:03:28,661 --> 01:03:31,801
And these young men wanted him
to know how much they
708
01:03:31,801 --> 01:03:35,801
appreciated him. In fact, one
of the young men even spoke
709
01:03:35,801 --> 01:03:40,121
about that there was always an
honor guard there at the at the
710
01:03:40,121 --> 01:03:43,801
barn and that's why they were
hearing footsteps and they
711
01:03:43,801 --> 01:03:47,321
would hear the footsteps all
night long sometimes and it's
712
01:03:47,321 --> 01:03:51,801
the most well guarded barn I
think in Meriden, Connecticut.
713
01:03:51,801 --> 01:03:55,521
I do believe that the type of
people we are when we're alive
714
01:03:55,521 --> 01:04:00,381
carries over into the spirit
realm in sense of duty of
715
01:04:00,381 --> 01:04:04,701
protection that you did once
here on on Earth, you can have
716
01:04:04,701 --> 01:04:09,021
that same desire to do that in
the spirit realm. As a marine,
717
01:04:09,021 --> 01:04:11,261
your job's never done. You take
care of your marines and it
718
01:04:11,261 --> 01:04:13,341
felt a sense that even though
these guys have lost their
719
01:04:13,341 --> 01:04:18,461
lives, there's quite a few on
the wall. Um that I was still
720
01:04:18,461 --> 01:04:22,941
in a sense taking care of them,
allow them to maybe get closure
721
01:04:22,941 --> 01:04:25,981
with their family, see their
families, put them even in
722
01:04:25,981 --> 01:04:32,361
spirit form in a better or
happier place which is the
723
01:04:32,361 --> 01:04:34,841
barn.
724
01:04:36,661 --> 01:04:40,281
Losing a life while serving in
the military can leave a lot
725
01:04:40,281 --> 01:04:43,961
unsaid. With no preparation to
leave the physical world,
726
01:04:43,961 --> 01:04:47,321
fallen soldiers have been known
to travel across continents to
727
01:04:47,321 --> 01:04:50,441
get a message home.
728
01:04:59,661 --> 01:05:06,901
Christian interview, take one.
I joined the military in 2006
729
01:05:06,901 --> 01:05:14,341
and I did deploy to Afghanistan
with Task Force 110 in May of
730
01:05:14,341 --> 01:05:19,461
2010. I was I was excited but
scared. The idea of going
731
01:05:19,461 --> 01:05:24,421
overseas to me is why I joined
the military and it's kind of
732
01:05:24,421 --> 01:05:27,941
in my family. My as far as my
name goes back, there's
733
01:05:27,941 --> 01:05:31,701
somebody that's been in the
military. On the twenty-fourth
734
01:05:31,701 --> 01:05:37,761
of May, we were doing a normal
resupply mission. I was the
735
01:05:37,761 --> 01:05:42,321
rear security for the vehicle
so in the crewma trade we call
736
01:05:42,321 --> 01:05:45,521
it the Gib the guy in back he
stands in the back of the
737
01:05:45,521 --> 01:05:52,241
vehicle watches out of the rear
and my vehicle end up striking
738
01:05:52,241 --> 01:05:57,441
in IED. The explosion would
have a lasting effect on
739
01:05:57,441 --> 01:06:01,681
Christian. I was ejected about
a hundred and 20 feet or so
740
01:06:01,681 --> 01:06:07,021
from the vehicle After that,
all I remember is yelling for
741
01:06:07,021 --> 01:06:11,501
my driver and I got no
response. Christian's driver
742
01:06:11,501 --> 01:06:15,021
had been badly wounded. I
remember doing first aid on
743
01:06:15,021 --> 01:06:24,461
him. And then I lost
consciousness due to shock. Uh
744
01:06:24,461 --> 01:06:28,781
he unfortunately was killed
that day.
745
01:06:30,661 --> 01:06:37,561
Because of my injuries I had to
come home early. Um and my
746
01:06:37,561 --> 01:06:44,521
daughter was born November 11th
so I was I was able to witness
747
01:06:44,521 --> 01:06:48,041
the birth and see my daughter
born and and I I remember
748
01:06:48,041 --> 01:06:52,041
holding her for the first time.
It was the the best day of my
749
01:06:52,041 --> 01:06:55,481
life. After the trauma of
combat Christian was grateful
750
01:06:55,481 --> 01:07:00,921
for the tranquility of family
life. But the calm would prove
751
01:07:00,921 --> 01:07:07,701
to be short lived. I start
hearing knocking that you
752
01:07:07,701 --> 01:07:09,861
kind of just brush off because
you thought it's your house
753
01:07:09,861 --> 01:07:17,481
creaking or expanding. And it's
just intensified. That's all.
754
01:07:40,661 --> 01:07:48,381
I thought somebody was in the
house. And I have some kit from
755
01:07:48,381 --> 01:07:51,661
when I was overseas.
756
01:08:08,661 --> 01:08:12,121
Christian Dandrea had recently
experienced the death of his
757
01:08:12,121 --> 01:08:16,201
friend while on duty in
Afghanistan. Quickly followed
758
01:08:16,201 --> 01:08:20,041
by the birth of his daughter.
His instincts were on high
759
01:08:20,041 --> 01:08:24,821
alert when he thought he heard
an intruder in his home. I
760
01:08:24,821 --> 01:08:30,421
freaked out and just grabbed my
gun.
761
01:08:38,661 --> 01:08:41,961
Kind of walk through around my
house and there's nothing
762
01:08:41,961 --> 01:08:44,601
there.
763
01:08:46,661 --> 01:08:53,721
I kind of just tried to brush
it off and ignore it. But the
764
01:08:53,721 --> 01:08:59,601
events were not so easily
ignored. One day I was talking
765
01:08:59,601 --> 01:09:03,361
to my neighbors I think me and
my neighbor outside having a
766
01:09:03,361 --> 01:09:06,001
cigarette. We're just talking
and I asked him like what time
767
01:09:06,001 --> 01:09:09,841
are you putting the girls to
bed? He's just like but they've
768
01:09:09,841 --> 01:09:14,481
been in bed since 6
thirty-seven. And I was just
769
01:09:14,481 --> 01:09:18,401
like oh. He was why? I was like
well I keep hearing banging and
770
01:09:18,401 --> 01:09:20,881
running over from your place.
And he said the same thing.
771
01:09:20,881 --> 01:09:24,241
He's like well I thought you
guys were fooling around or
772
01:09:24,241 --> 01:09:27,441
whatever. Because I can hear
the same thing. And that's when
773
01:09:27,441 --> 01:09:33,381
I start Thinking that there's
something else there. One of
774
01:09:33,381 --> 01:09:36,421
Christian's friends also had
strange experiences in the
775
01:09:36,421 --> 01:09:39,781
house. What she told me is she
saw three things standing
776
01:09:39,781 --> 01:09:42,581
behind her.
777
01:09:49,161 --> 01:09:52,141
And then they all turned and
walked away and when she turned
778
01:09:52,141 --> 01:09:56,201
around, there was nothing
there. I was like okay well
779
01:09:56,201 --> 01:10:00,521
you're over exaggerating. I
think there's something in the
780
01:10:00,521 --> 01:10:03,401
house. I have no idea what it
is. So she went over next door
781
01:10:03,401 --> 01:10:08,841
and got my neighbor and he came
over and searched my house and
782
01:10:08,841 --> 01:10:15,001
there was nothing there. Uh she
was scared to be in there.
783
01:10:16,661 --> 01:10:19,401
If I'm in the basement, if I'm
walking past the basement
784
01:10:19,401 --> 01:10:21,641
stairs, looks like there's
someone standing at the bottom
785
01:10:21,641 --> 01:10:27,541
of the stairs. And I look and
there's nothing there but you
786
01:10:27,541 --> 01:10:30,661
can hear footsteps, legitimate
footsteps walking up and down
787
01:10:30,661 --> 01:10:36,681
the hallway. I thought someone
was in the house. I I I don't
788
01:10:36,681 --> 01:10:39,881
even know how to explain it.
You can feel a vibe of like
789
01:10:39,881 --> 01:10:43,241
somebody else is in the house.
790
01:10:45,161 --> 01:10:49,181
And that bothered me.
791
01:10:54,661 --> 01:10:59,641
Like you you have that helpless
feeling.
792
01:11:06,661 --> 01:11:09,241
When you're dealing with
something that I like to term
793
01:11:09,241 --> 01:11:13,001
as a phantom draft or a phantom
vibration it's a lot different
794
01:11:13,001 --> 01:11:17,881
you feel a sense that not only
is your spider senses tingling
795
01:11:17,881 --> 01:11:20,521
but you know that something's
there and you may catch
796
01:11:20,521 --> 01:11:23,601
something at the corner of your
eye when it gets that strong
797
01:11:23,601 --> 01:11:27,081
the indications are a good
percentage that you may be
798
01:11:27,081 --> 01:11:32,041
visited by an unknown entity
799
01:11:36,161 --> 01:11:40,661
I was in my house alone. Uh
Isabella was with her mother
800
01:11:40,661 --> 01:11:46,461
for the weekend and I was
laying in bed And it sounded
801
01:11:46,461 --> 01:11:49,101
like someone was actually
punching the wall behind from
802
01:11:49,101 --> 01:11:55,081
the room behind me. My
headboard actually shook and
803
01:11:55,081 --> 01:11:59,441
smacked up against the wall a
few times. At first, I was
804
01:11:59,441 --> 01:12:05,121
scared like what's going on?
Who's that? When is that? The
805
01:12:05,121 --> 01:12:08,241
force went from shaking the bed
to pressure on Christian's
806
01:12:08,241 --> 01:12:13,641
chest, disabling him. I can't
move. I can't yell. I can't
807
01:12:13,641 --> 01:12:18,601
talk. I can't do anything and
it stands it feels like some
808
01:12:18,601 --> 01:12:22,281
sitting or standing on my
chest.
809
01:12:24,661 --> 01:12:28,041
It almost looks like someone's
kind of standing in the room,
810
01:12:28,041 --> 01:12:34,141
watching, I guess. And I wake
up a little while later and
811
01:12:34,141 --> 01:12:38,861
just scared. Like you just what
just happened to me. A lot of
812
01:12:38,861 --> 01:12:42,781
time the spirit will appear at
night time and I've dealt with
813
01:12:42,781 --> 01:12:46,861
many cases of spirits going
hovering over somebody's bed or
814
01:12:46,861 --> 01:12:50,141
beside them. A lot of times it
is to give a message and that
815
01:12:50,141 --> 01:12:53,821
theme is always reoccurring.
It's it's there for a reason.
816
01:12:53,821 --> 01:12:57,581
Um what that reason is is hard
to detect but usually it's to
817
01:12:57,581 --> 01:13:01,741
give a message to tell you
something maybe forewarn you of
818
01:13:01,741 --> 01:13:06,061
something or simply to say I
know you can see me. What are
819
01:13:06,061 --> 01:13:10,421
you going to do about it? Hi,
The events were escalating.
820
01:13:10,421 --> 01:13:15,381
Christian's daughter became
scared to sleep in her bedroom.
821
01:13:15,381 --> 01:13:19,981
She said there's a man in my
closet there's a man in my room
822
01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:24,861
and I asked like okay does he
hurt you does he touch you does
823
01:13:24,861 --> 01:13:29,821
he talk to you what does he do
and she all she would say is he
824
01:13:29,821 --> 01:13:35,661
talks or he stands there and it
scares her because it's dark I
825
01:13:35,661 --> 01:13:39,741
I actually thought somebody was
coming into my house but my
826
01:13:39,741 --> 01:13:42,621
doors are always locked you
have to walk through you have
827
01:13:42,621 --> 01:13:46,361
to walk past my room to get
into my to get to Isabel's room
828
01:13:46,361 --> 01:13:51,241
and it was winter and so I
looked outside and there was no
829
01:13:51,241 --> 01:13:55,401
footprints leading up to her
any of the windows and while
830
01:13:55,401 --> 01:13:59,801
the doors were still locked in
the morning, I took the closet
831
01:13:59,801 --> 01:14:05,401
door off and actually I put a
camera in her room to see what
832
01:14:05,401 --> 01:14:11,361
was going on and I caught
nothing. And I thought I was
833
01:14:11,361 --> 01:14:18,081
sleepwalking so I would put
baby powder in the door or in
834
01:14:18,081 --> 01:14:23,321
the hallway inside of my door
not Nothing was ever there. So
835
01:14:23,321 --> 01:14:27,481
I thought, okay, something's
going on.
836
01:14:43,161 --> 01:14:47,261
After returning from a tour of
duty in Afghanistan, Christian
837
01:14:47,261 --> 01:14:52,621
Dandrea had been experiencing
strange events in his home.
838
01:14:53,161 --> 01:14:58,541
Uh, my mom was, she was sitting
on the couch. Isabella was at
839
01:14:58,541 --> 01:15:01,661
daycare, I believe.
840
01:15:03,161 --> 01:15:08,841
And a picture flew off the
wall. So it was just okay. She
841
01:15:08,841 --> 01:15:13,481
called me right away. I came
home. I looked.
842
01:15:26,161 --> 01:15:29,221
Well, she didn't touch
anything. She left it there so
843
01:15:29,221 --> 01:15:35,301
I could see it and it was a
picture of Isabella about three
844
01:15:35,301 --> 01:15:38,421
and a half feet from the wall
and my mom said it just came
845
01:15:38,421 --> 01:15:41,541
off and gone.
846
01:15:42,161 --> 01:15:46,021
A spirit would push over a
picture and move an object to
847
01:15:46,021 --> 01:15:49,781
get attention if it's trying to
tell you something and it has
848
01:15:49,781 --> 01:15:54,341
enough energy to manifest
itself in our physical realm to
849
01:15:54,341 --> 01:15:56,821
move an object because it does
take a lot of energy to do that
850
01:15:56,821 --> 01:16:00,501
but most of the time it is to
grab your attention of
851
01:16:00,501 --> 01:16:03,381
something it wants to tell you.
Uh when I saw the picture
852
01:16:03,381 --> 01:16:09,221
frame, it was everything became
real and I was nervous because
853
01:16:09,221 --> 01:16:12,181
I didn't know I didn't know
what it was. It it's it's now
854
01:16:12,181 --> 01:16:16,061
taking objects and moving them
and that's glass what happens
855
01:16:16,061 --> 01:16:19,341
if that happened because
Isabella has a a chair
856
01:16:19,341 --> 01:16:21,661
underneath who that was and
that's where she puts her shoes
857
01:16:21,661 --> 01:16:25,581
on so I was just like what
happens if Isabella was there
858
01:16:25,581 --> 01:16:30,301
and this glass falls and hits
her so that's when I got scared
859
01:16:30,301 --> 01:16:34,701
and that's when I contacted
Katie because now it's moving
860
01:16:34,701 --> 01:16:39,941
things and throwing things like
what's next Katie Turner is a
861
01:16:39,941 --> 01:16:42,821
paranormal investigator with
the Petawa supernatural
862
01:16:42,821 --> 01:16:45,861
research Society. As soon as
you be walked into the house
863
01:16:45,861 --> 01:16:51,621
alone I felt like I wasn't
supposed to be there. Whoever
864
01:16:51,621 --> 01:16:56,981
it was did not want me there. I
was a little skeptical. So I
865
01:16:56,981 --> 01:17:00,421
didn't tell her much about my
past. Uh I told her basically
866
01:17:00,421 --> 01:17:05,301
what was going on that a
picture just flew off the wall.
867
01:17:05,301 --> 01:17:09,701
Uh my daughter's sometimes
afraid of everything. Uh I need
868
01:17:09,701 --> 01:17:17,101
help. I There is something
clearly wrong in the situation.
869
01:17:17,101 --> 01:17:23,141
This one particular entity did
not want us in the residence.
870
01:17:25,661 --> 01:17:29,121
I was getting pain in my arm
and I was getting pain in my
871
01:17:29,121 --> 01:17:32,961
head. I was getting a very bad
headache.
872
01:17:40,661 --> 01:17:48,041
I could feel, I could hear, I
could see an entity.
873
01:17:49,161 --> 01:17:53,021
As Katie started to make
contact with the spirit, she
874
01:17:53,021 --> 01:17:59,501
was guided downstairs to the
basement. We have a PSB seven
875
01:17:59,501 --> 01:18:02,861
Spirit Box and what it does is
it sweeps through radio
876
01:18:02,861 --> 01:18:07,101
frequencies at extremely fast
rate and it is able to pick up.
877
01:18:07,101 --> 01:18:10,861
It's almost like a phone for
the spiritual side. So they are
878
01:18:10,861 --> 01:18:13,741
able to to talk through it and
we can hear them in real time.
879
01:18:13,741 --> 01:18:18,541
So we ask questions and it will
answer. And as soon as I got
880
01:18:18,541 --> 01:18:24,301
into the basement I knew right
away. That's where I picked up
881
01:18:24,301 --> 01:18:27,821
Christian's friend.
882
01:18:29,161 --> 01:18:36,061
She asked are you attached to
the house or are you attached
883
01:18:36,061 --> 01:18:41,101
to the family and you hear
family? What do you think of
884
01:18:41,101 --> 01:18:48,461
Christian? He's a good man. Uh
are you worried about him? Yes.
885
01:18:50,161 --> 01:18:57,041
She said it was someone that's
someone that you knew. I could
886
01:18:57,041 --> 01:19:01,601
feel an entity. Um he was very
standoffish. He did not want us
887
01:19:01,601 --> 01:19:04,401
to be there. He was nervous. It
wasn't as if he was evil. He
888
01:19:04,401 --> 01:19:09,081
just didn't want us there. In
that area was some kit and
889
01:19:09,081 --> 01:19:14,261
equipment that Christian had.
And I believe that there was an
890
01:19:14,261 --> 01:19:18,821
attachment there to it. Katie
told him that the spirit was
891
01:19:18,821 --> 01:19:21,341
his friend and driver the day
of the explosion in
892
01:19:21,341 --> 01:19:28,481
Afghanistan. So I was like okay
maybe this maybe she's not
893
01:19:28,481 --> 01:19:32,761
crazy. Maybe she's real. You
have people in this world that
894
01:19:32,761 --> 01:19:35,641
are very strong and they're
dominant and they have a lot of
895
01:19:35,641 --> 01:19:38,841
will and determination. I
believe that same will and
896
01:19:38,841 --> 01:19:43,241
determination can alter the
frequencies in the supernatural
897
01:19:43,241 --> 01:19:46,521
realm to give more of a
powerful energy as to somebody
898
01:19:46,521 --> 01:19:51,241
who is maybe a little bit more
reserved while living. It was a
899
01:19:51,241 --> 01:19:59,061
lot to take in at once. Um
little emotion all. But This
900
01:19:59,061 --> 01:20:02,021
felt good at the same time
knowing that it's not some
901
01:20:02,021 --> 01:20:08,181
random man. It's somebody I
know who I know was a gentle
902
01:20:08,181 --> 01:20:15,301
guy, a gentle man meant no harm
to anybody just wanted
903
01:20:15,301 --> 01:20:23,601
attention and now he hasn't. He
was a a a warrior out to this
904
01:20:23,601 --> 01:20:28,161
country so he may be gone but
he's still here and it just
905
01:20:28,161 --> 01:20:33,541
proves that they're gone but
not forgotten. Now that
906
01:20:33,541 --> 01:20:36,101
Christian understands the
presence in his home, the
907
01:20:36,101 --> 01:20:39,381
violent episodes have stopped
and he knows that his fallen
908
01:20:39,381 --> 01:20:43,301
comrade remains by his side.
909
01:20:47,161 --> 01:20:50,781
When a person passes away with
outstanding business to take
910
01:20:50,781 --> 01:20:54,621
care of, that's often enough of
a reason for them to stick
911
01:20:54,621 --> 01:20:57,341
around in the physical world
until they can give their
912
01:20:57,341 --> 01:21:00,061
message.
913
01:21:11,661 --> 01:21:16,241
Story ten take one.
914
01:21:17,661 --> 01:21:22,001
My mother and I and my brother
moved into the home when I was
915
01:21:22,001 --> 01:21:28,881
about five years old. That was
probably 1957. My great
916
01:21:28,881 --> 01:21:32,641
grandfather built the home. He
ordered it through Sears
917
01:21:32,641 --> 01:21:37,681
Cadillac. Put it together by
number. Followed the
918
01:21:37,681 --> 01:21:41,841
directions. I grew up there,
went to school there, have
919
01:21:41,841 --> 01:21:45,921
still friends and family in the
neighborhood. It's a fabulous
920
01:21:45,921 --> 01:21:51,601
house but many skeletons live
in that house.
921
01:21:54,161 --> 01:21:58,341
My mother and I were sitting in
the front room and it was about
922
01:21:58,341 --> 01:22:05,621
10 o'clock at night on a school
night. My daughter was in bed.
923
01:22:05,621 --> 01:22:10,061
She had been there since like
eight o'clock.
924
01:22:15,161 --> 01:22:19,341
And all of a sudden, she comes
flying down the steps with this
925
01:22:19,341 --> 01:22:24,941
scared look on her face saying
the stereo came on and I just
926
01:22:24,941 --> 01:22:31,341
kind of, yeah, okay. It's just
the radio. It's okay. Go to
927
01:22:31,341 --> 01:22:35,781
sleep, okay? Okay. And I says,
something must have started it
928
01:22:35,781 --> 01:22:43,981
and was about 20 minutes later
after I tucked her back in.
929
01:22:45,161 --> 01:22:51,901
Again, it just turned on by
itself. She said, mom, I'm not
930
01:22:51,901 --> 01:22:55,021
sleeping in there because the
stereo turned on again. I
931
01:22:55,021 --> 01:23:00,701
thought, well, maybe the plug
was jostled. You know, I I just
932
01:23:00,701 --> 01:23:04,941
kind of wrote it off. I didn't
think anymore about it. But the
933
01:23:04,941 --> 01:23:08,381
stereo switching on by itself
turned out to be just the
934
01:23:08,381 --> 01:23:13,381
beginning. It was after that
that I started hearing things
935
01:23:13,381 --> 01:23:18,821
in the kitchen. I worked
afternoon so I would come in to
936
01:23:18,821 --> 01:23:24,821
relax, unwind, watch the news,
and I would hear things jiggle
937
01:23:24,821 --> 01:23:31,141
like when somebody opens a
refrigerator, the bottles.
938
01:23:32,661 --> 01:23:39,001
And covered doors, same thing.
I hear them open. I have a
939
01:23:39,001 --> 01:23:44,281
magnetic strip that holds them
shut and I'll hear a click like
940
01:23:44,281 --> 01:23:47,801
somebody opened it.
941
01:23:49,661 --> 01:23:56,521
I'd go in and refrigerator door
was closed. Nothing's moved,
942
01:23:56,521 --> 01:24:01,081
nothing's changed, everything's
the same.
943
01:24:02,661 --> 01:24:07,721
A day or two later, I was
upstairs making sure everything
944
01:24:07,721 --> 01:24:13,321
was ready for the next day of
school and I came down to the
945
01:24:13,321 --> 01:24:16,361
steps from upstairs and the
kitchen covered doors, there
946
01:24:16,361 --> 01:24:21,641
was three of them open and I
went to check to see if my son
947
01:24:21,641 --> 01:24:27,481
had been up in the kitchen and
he wasn't and I shut the doors,
948
01:24:27,481 --> 01:24:33,881
went back and sat down. I was
doing some homework myself.
949
01:24:38,661 --> 01:24:44,041
And the door was open and I
didn't hear it open and I was
950
01:24:44,041 --> 01:24:46,601
sitting there
951
01:24:51,161 --> 01:24:55,981
and then when my son was in the
basement, he made the basement
952
01:24:55,981 --> 01:25:01,181
his bedroom and I had gone to
the basement steps to say good
953
01:25:01,181 --> 01:25:03,341
night
954
01:25:27,161 --> 01:25:31,021
Judy Spiehar had lived in her
family home for decades when
955
01:25:31,021 --> 01:25:35,981
she started noticing strange
events. The incident started to
956
01:25:35,981 --> 01:25:41,721
occur more frequently and
became more frightening. And I
957
01:25:41,721 --> 01:25:45,801
turned around and there was
this dark image right behind
958
01:25:45,801 --> 01:25:55,581
me. It was not black but almost
a dark gray and I I covered my
959
01:25:55,581 --> 01:25:57,821
face
960
01:26:00,161 --> 01:26:04,821
I would tell people my stories
and they'd all look at me like
961
01:26:04,821 --> 01:26:10,181
I was crazy. Oh, it's just a
imagination thing. You know,
962
01:26:10,181 --> 01:26:13,221
nothing like that happens.
There's no such thing as
963
01:26:13,221 --> 01:26:17,701
spirits or ghosts. Judy
struggled to understand the
964
01:26:17,701 --> 01:26:22,501
weird incidents. I'm sleeping
one night and then I I could
965
01:26:22,501 --> 01:26:27,701
hear something but I I wasn't
sure what it was.
966
01:26:29,661 --> 01:26:34,401
And I could feel like somebody
walking with their hands and
967
01:26:34,401 --> 01:26:42,881
knees up the side of me. I
could feel the indent in the
968
01:26:42,881 --> 01:26:47,761
mattress. It was scary. At
first, I thought it was the dog
969
01:26:47,761 --> 01:26:52,801
moving and I noticed the dog
was in the same spot and then I
970
01:26:52,801 --> 01:26:56,801
was thinking it was the cat
because I have two cats and
971
01:26:56,801 --> 01:27:01,661
there was nothing there. I have
a street light that that come
972
01:27:01,661 --> 01:27:05,741
in through the window and there
was nothing there but I could
973
01:27:05,741 --> 01:27:09,981
feel the indent. The bizarre
events could no longer be
974
01:27:09,981 --> 01:27:15,661
ignored. Judy needed help. My
sister-in-law introduced me to
975
01:27:15,661 --> 01:27:19,181
Ken so that we could find out
if there really was something
976
01:27:19,181 --> 01:27:23,981
or if it was my imagination.
977
01:27:25,161 --> 01:27:31,421
When we first got to Judy's
house, the overwhelming feeling
978
01:27:31,421 --> 01:27:36,061
in the house was that the
presences that were there, it
979
01:27:36,061 --> 01:27:41,341
did feel like family. During
the investigation, we kept
980
01:27:41,341 --> 01:27:49,201
getting any, you know, a series
of EVPs called Beth. Beth.
981
01:27:49,201 --> 01:27:58,721
Beth. Very emphatic. So, it's
definitely a man's voice. When
982
01:27:58,721 --> 01:28:02,401
Ken told me, I was
flabbergasted. I didn't I
983
01:28:02,401 --> 01:28:05,121
didn't know what to say because
I hadn't thought of Beth in
984
01:28:05,121 --> 01:28:10,161
years. Beth was married to my
brother Mike who had passed
985
01:28:10,161 --> 01:28:17,481
away. Mike had died in the late
1970s in a farming accident. I
986
01:28:17,481 --> 01:28:22,281
believe that they may tap
around the person that they
987
01:28:22,281 --> 01:28:24,761
want and go to somebody else
because maybe they can
988
01:28:24,761 --> 01:28:31,221
communicate better with them.
Maybe that can be more of a I'd
989
01:28:31,221 --> 01:28:34,421
like to use the term a
validation of who it is and
990
01:28:34,421 --> 01:28:37,061
then that person could take the
message over and it's easy to
991
01:28:37,061 --> 01:28:41,381
hear that way sometimes. I went
on Facebook to see if I could
992
01:28:41,381 --> 01:28:49,361
find her and luckily I I did.
Mike and I were married in
993
01:28:49,361 --> 01:28:54,161
December of sixty-eight. We had
four days to plan our wedding.
994
01:28:54,161 --> 01:28:57,601
We had 10 days together
honeymooning before he left for
995
01:28:57,601 --> 01:29:07,441
Vietnam. So January of 70 was
when he returned. And we filed
996
01:29:07,441 --> 01:29:11,121
for divorce because when he
returned he was so so different
997
01:29:11,121 --> 01:29:16,321
than he was when he left. A lot
of years I carried a lot of
998
01:29:16,321 --> 01:29:24,541
guilt because I didn't stick
him like our vow said. Beth was
999
01:29:24,541 --> 01:29:29,821
not the only one with unsettled
emotions. Well, at this point,
1000
01:29:29,821 --> 01:29:35,161
it's pretty clear that somebody
wants to get a message to Beth.
1001
01:29:35,161 --> 01:29:40,521
So I went to the investigation
and it was after midnight. In
1002
01:29:40,521 --> 01:29:46,361
my mind, I was more concerned
about what does this spirit
1003
01:29:46,361 --> 01:29:52,041
want with her in the first
place.
1004
01:29:55,161 --> 01:30:00,221
And I kept feeling cold breezes
on the back of my neck or the
1005
01:30:00,221 --> 01:30:04,141
hair would stand up on my arm.
1006
01:30:13,161 --> 01:30:18,061
What I sensed was that there
was a lot more energy in the
1007
01:30:18,061 --> 01:30:20,621
room.
1008
01:30:23,661 --> 01:30:30,781
Beth heard something that blew
her mind. We could hear Mike
1009
01:30:30,781 --> 01:30:38,461
saying, Beth, I love you. Oh, I
still can see. Goosebumps.
1010
01:30:38,461 --> 01:30:43,581
Beth's dead ex-husband, Mike,
had made contact. I believe
1011
01:30:43,581 --> 01:30:47,621
entities can come back if they
have unfinished business,
1012
01:30:47,621 --> 01:30:50,661
especially if they die
tragically, they can come back
1013
01:30:50,661 --> 01:30:53,781
to give a message.
1014
01:30:54,661 --> 01:31:01,881
My whole body got that sense of
being shocked. I mean, from my
1015
01:31:01,881 --> 01:31:06,281
fingers to my toes and all the
hair in my body stood up and it
1016
01:31:06,281 --> 01:31:12,281
was like a jolt of electricity
shooting right through me.
1017
01:31:13,161 --> 01:31:17,261
Hearing from him and hearing
him say that that he still
1018
01:31:17,261 --> 01:31:25,161
loved me and it made me realize
that he wasn't angry at me or
1019
01:31:25,161 --> 01:31:28,801
that I could let go of the
guilt I've been carrying around
1020
01:31:28,801 --> 01:31:34,521
and I just gave me so much more
peace.
1021
01:31:36,661 --> 01:31:41,881
So that was important for me to
know that he wasn't like mad at
1022
01:31:41,881 --> 01:31:46,841
me or it's almost I felt like
he was still hanging around
1023
01:31:46,841 --> 01:31:49,641
because he needed to get that
message to me because he could
1024
01:31:49,641 --> 01:31:52,441
see all these years I was
carrying around all this guilt
1025
01:31:52,441 --> 01:31:56,361
for not staying with him.
1026
01:31:58,661 --> 01:32:03,961
Mike wanted her there for a
reason. He wanted to make a
1027
01:32:03,961 --> 01:32:09,081
closure, I believe, of what was
going on with him and her. He
1028
01:32:09,081 --> 01:32:13,161
wanted her to know that he was
okay and that what they had
1029
01:32:13,161 --> 01:32:16,601
done was the right thing. And
how do you feel about the house
1030
01:32:16,601 --> 01:32:22,901
now? I always feel comfortable
in the home. I love it and I
1031
01:32:22,901 --> 01:32:28,181
just wish I could figure out
who's crawling up the bat.92050
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