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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,161 --> 00:00:03,781 There's an evil entity in the house. You're about to see real 2 00:00:03,781 --> 00:00:08,341 people. I was terrified beyond belief. Wow. Reliving 3 00:00:08,341 --> 00:00:12,501 horrifying paranormal encounters for the first time. 4 00:00:12,501 --> 00:00:16,581 I truly felt it was like living in hell. When ghost children 5 00:00:16,581 --> 00:00:22,901 come out to play. That picture turned out to be very evil. I 6 00:00:22,901 --> 00:00:27,701 buried this for nearly 30 years. Be prepared to be 7 00:00:27,701 --> 00:00:30,581 afraid. 8 00:00:47,661 --> 00:00:52,881 We purchased our property in 1998 and we tore down the old 9 00:00:52,881 --> 00:00:57,281 home place and build ours in September of ninety-nine. I 10 00:00:57,281 --> 00:01:01,601 quit my job as a draftsman that I had been working for almost 11 00:01:01,601 --> 00:01:07,401 11 years and quit to stay at home and raise my little man. 12 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:10,721 Jeremy was about two years old when he had really start 13 00:01:10,721 --> 00:01:13,281 articulating his words. I'd go back and I said, what are you 14 00:01:13,281 --> 00:01:18,541 doing, Bob? And he's a plan with EY and I said, who's Eli, 15 00:01:18,541 --> 00:01:25,021 my friend? And I said, oh, okay and so, I had been told by many 16 00:01:25,021 --> 00:01:28,781 friends that had children that they have imaginary friends. 17 00:01:28,781 --> 00:01:32,141 I'd be like, okay, what's Eli look like? He has the same 18 00:01:32,141 --> 00:01:35,421 color hair as Aunt Tam which is a natural blonde. My sister is 19 00:01:35,421 --> 00:01:41,101 a very blonde blonde. He has eyes your color. So, blue eyes, 20 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:44,701 I would assume. He said and he wears belts on his shoulders. I 21 00:01:44,701 --> 00:01:48,461 said, that's pretty descriptive, you know, and he's 22 00:01:48,461 --> 00:01:53,001 like, he's my friend. I thought it was a normal result of a 23 00:01:53,001 --> 00:01:57,321 only child. But Mandy was about to discover there was nothing 24 00:01:57,321 --> 00:02:01,321 ordinary about Eli. 25 00:02:03,161 --> 00:02:09,741 That day, my son was at school and I was home alone, cleaning 26 00:02:09,741 --> 00:02:14,461 house, doing my normal mommy chores. 27 00:02:15,161 --> 00:02:22,941 And I heard this just little laugh. It was plain as day. 28 00:02:37,161 --> 00:02:42,941 And I thought and you know I'm like did I just hear that? 29 00:02:49,161 --> 00:02:52,141 No. 30 00:03:19,661 --> 00:03:25,021 Of course, nothing's there. I didn't know if it was 31 00:03:25,021 --> 00:03:30,101 paranormal or if it was my brain. And Mandy's doubts would 32 00:03:30,101 --> 00:03:35,961 be tested again just a few nights later. It was a normal 33 00:03:35,961 --> 00:03:39,601 weeknight. My husband was in bed next to me. He was already 34 00:03:39,601 --> 00:03:43,761 asleep. My son was in bed. 35 00:03:51,661 --> 00:03:58,601 Mommy. And right in my right ear on this side of the bed it 36 00:03:58,601 --> 00:04:05,541 would sound like a small child saying mommy I was terrified 37 00:04:05,541 --> 00:04:10,061 and I was just like, what's my son doing up? What's Jeremy 38 00:04:10,061 --> 00:04:14,101 doing up? You know, I do the whole what are you doing awake? 39 00:04:14,101 --> 00:04:21,681 He's not there. I did downplay a lot of it because I just 40 00:04:21,681 --> 00:04:26,001 figured that hey, unless I have concrete evidence, unless I 41 00:04:26,001 --> 00:04:32,621 have it in front of me, it doesn't exist. Mandy became 42 00:04:32,621 --> 00:04:38,401 more worried when she started to hear adult voices too. On 43 00:04:38,401 --> 00:04:42,081 several occasions, when I would be at home alone, I would hear 44 00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:46,801 what sounded like muffled conversations between a male 45 00:04:46,801 --> 00:04:51,601 and a female, almost as in an argument. 46 00:04:54,161 --> 00:05:00,361 And I'd hear a footstep down the hallway. Something in my 47 00:05:00,361 --> 00:05:07,441 son's room. He had this little toy piano. I would hear playing 48 00:05:07,441 --> 00:05:10,241 music. 49 00:05:21,661 --> 00:05:27,121 I I felt like I was losing my mind. My husband would come 50 00:05:27,121 --> 00:05:30,641 home from work. I would tell him these things and he just, 51 00:05:30,641 --> 00:05:34,481 you know, roll the eyes and be like, you know what? Your son's 52 00:05:34,481 --> 00:05:37,041 at school all day, you're alone, your brain's creating 53 00:05:37,041 --> 00:05:42,401 these noises. I said, you're probably right. 54 00:05:52,661 --> 00:05:58,521 I have an old German wooden music box. 55 00:06:01,661 --> 00:06:06,481 And I'd hear it play and I'd go in and the lid would be open on 56 00:06:06,481 --> 00:06:09,281 my dresser. 57 00:06:12,161 --> 00:06:18,661 I know that that lid can't open on its own. You have to open 58 00:06:18,661 --> 00:06:25,621 the hinge of the music box to get it to play. Nobody was 59 00:06:25,621 --> 00:06:29,941 believing me. My husband just thought I was a nut job and you 60 00:06:29,941 --> 00:06:34,101 know, my son quit having experiences. He was already at 61 00:06:34,101 --> 00:06:37,461 the age of where nothing was really happening to him anymore 62 00:06:37,461 --> 00:06:43,061 and I thought, why am I still hearing this stuff? 63 00:06:53,661 --> 00:06:58,881 So I was grasping at straws. I was looking for any way to get 64 00:06:58,881 --> 00:07:01,761 rid of it. 65 00:07:08,161 --> 00:07:17,781 Just lashed out one day. Show yourself. Show yourself. 66 00:07:18,661 --> 00:07:24,521 There stood a boy about four or five years old. Exactly what my 67 00:07:24,521 --> 00:07:27,401 son described. 68 00:07:32,661 --> 00:07:40,361 I just saw the kid that my son described as Eli. 69 00:07:43,161 --> 00:07:47,501 It just I'm thinking there is this possible is this even 70 00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:55,181 possible and I I was so torn with it I was so scared so many 71 00:07:55,181 --> 00:08:01,621 questions unanswered I need to know who this kid is. I need to 72 00:08:01,621 --> 00:08:07,381 know why he's here and how did he die? Started looking up deed 73 00:08:07,381 --> 00:08:11,781 records for the property. The family that lived there in the 74 00:08:11,781 --> 00:08:16,741 1860s and 1870s was in fact the Daher family. They had came 75 00:08:16,741 --> 00:08:25,861 here from Germany. Had a 13 children. Noticed five of the 76 00:08:25,861 --> 00:08:34,141 children had died on the property. From being beat They 77 00:08:34,141 --> 00:08:40,021 had neck and head trauma. Started going through the 78 00:08:40,021 --> 00:08:49,581 children's names. Elijah Daher went by Eli Dahrenberger. I was 79 00:08:49,581 --> 00:08:55,621 floored I had you know, concrete evidence in front of 80 00:08:55,621 --> 00:08:58,821 me of what had actually happened on my property. 81 00:08:58,821 --> 00:09:02,501 Child's spirits are more likely to stay earth bound after 82 00:09:02,501 --> 00:09:05,461 traumatic death such as a murder because they're not 83 00:09:05,461 --> 00:09:08,501 really sure where they are at the time of death and it's 84 00:09:08,501 --> 00:09:10,901 really difficult for them to cross over. They're not really 85 00:09:10,901 --> 00:09:14,021 sure of the process needed. Basically, child's spirits are 86 00:09:14,021 --> 00:09:16,181 also still looking for their parents. They're looking for 87 00:09:16,181 --> 00:09:19,621 their loved ones and when they cross over after traumatic 88 00:09:19,621 --> 00:09:22,021 death like that. They're unable to find their family. So, often 89 00:09:22,021 --> 00:09:24,821 times they're wandering and looking for an answer or 90 00:09:24,821 --> 00:09:29,281 solution on where their family is. Dealing with the spirit of 91 00:09:29,281 --> 00:09:32,801 little Eli had been traumatic enough for Mandy but nothing 92 00:09:32,801 --> 00:09:38,881 could have prepared her for what happened next. My husband 93 00:09:38,881 --> 00:09:43,761 had went to work, son was at school, and I go into the 94 00:09:43,761 --> 00:09:47,121 bathroom to get a shower. 95 00:09:49,361 --> 00:09:52,861 You. 96 00:10:17,661 --> 00:10:21,601 Mandy Joyce had uncovered historical documents that 97 00:10:21,601 --> 00:10:25,201 appeared to prove the existence of her son's imaginary friend. 98 00:10:25,201 --> 00:10:28,641 Show yourself. 99 00:10:31,161 --> 00:10:35,261 But things were about to get worse. I go into the bathroom 100 00:10:35,261 --> 00:10:38,541 to get a shower. 101 00:10:39,861 --> 00:10:46,081 Spirits knocking stuff off the bathroom, shelves. 102 00:10:47,161 --> 00:10:50,541 And I just kept getting some more fear. Just I was so 103 00:10:50,541 --> 00:10:53,101 scared. 104 00:10:54,161 --> 00:10:58,261 I kept, I was praying. I was praying to god. I was like, 105 00:10:58,261 --> 00:11:02,021 god, just get me through this. 106 00:11:02,661 --> 00:11:10,261 And there stands the silhouette of this man He had a big tall 107 00:11:10,261 --> 00:11:14,421 hat but he was all black. 108 00:11:36,661 --> 00:11:42,681 And I throw my tear up in a towel. I throw on some pajama 109 00:11:42,681 --> 00:11:46,681 bottoms and he drove me out of my house that day. When 110 00:11:46,681 --> 00:11:49,161 somebody leaves a home or abandons their house because 111 00:11:49,161 --> 00:11:51,801 there's a haunting going on. It's possible that the spirit 112 00:11:51,801 --> 00:11:54,521 kind of gains power from that situation at least 113 00:11:54,521 --> 00:11:57,241 psychologically they feel that they've won in that scenario. 114 00:11:57,241 --> 00:11:59,641 It's believe that the best thing to do when you have a 115 00:11:59,641 --> 00:12:02,761 haunting is to stay in the home not to surrender your property 116 00:12:02,761 --> 00:12:05,401 and your life to the spirit to but to confront that and 117 00:12:05,401 --> 00:12:10,141 perform a house blessing and remove the haunting. Went to my 118 00:12:10,141 --> 00:12:14,861 friend's house and I was scared. I cried all the way 119 00:12:14,861 --> 00:12:20,361 into town. And she said, you need to cleanse. She said, get 120 00:12:20,361 --> 00:12:24,201 a hold of Jackie, you need to cleanse ASAP. When I go into a 121 00:12:24,201 --> 00:12:27,401 place, sometimes like pictures pop into my head and I just 122 00:12:27,401 --> 00:12:29,961 would see like certain things whenever I'd walk through her 123 00:12:29,961 --> 00:12:32,441 house. 124 00:12:33,661 --> 00:12:38,641 The the energy just hit you. It was so heavy and just you could 125 00:12:38,641 --> 00:12:42,241 tell that there was there was something. You always felt like 126 00:12:42,241 --> 00:12:44,401 something was watching you or if you walked around the 127 00:12:44,401 --> 00:12:47,841 corner, something was going to pop out at you. She told me 128 00:12:47,841 --> 00:12:51,121 that there was a man. You know, you could tell that that man 129 00:12:51,121 --> 00:12:55,041 was not nice. The father was not a good person. That was 130 00:12:55,041 --> 00:13:01,841 very stern and ruled with an iron fist. She smudged with 131 00:13:01,841 --> 00:13:07,841 smoke. We went to every room, every corner of house and as we 132 00:13:07,841 --> 00:13:11,201 moved through the house it just got heavier and heavier the 133 00:13:11,201 --> 00:13:16,721 energy and once we moved from the upstairs to the downstairs 134 00:13:16,721 --> 00:13:20,321 I could feel him there I knew he was down there and once we 135 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:23,681 got down there I just wanted to warn him let him know this is 136 00:13:23,681 --> 00:13:26,961 what's this is what's happening he's he's somewhere around here 137 00:13:26,961 --> 00:13:33,121 he's not happy that he's pissed that we're doing this 138 00:13:33,661 --> 00:13:41,161 I saw this black, the same black wispy mist that I saw in 139 00:13:41,161 --> 00:13:44,921 this figure in my bathroom. 140 00:13:46,161 --> 00:13:50,021 And the whole time I'm just saying the Lord's prayer. I'm 141 00:13:50,021 --> 00:13:53,541 saying a prayer over my home. I'm saying a prayer over my son 142 00:13:53,541 --> 00:14:02,761 and my husband. I saw it lunge out like as a hand. 143 00:14:07,661 --> 00:14:15,601 I had her help me to yell at it and tell it it's leaving now. 144 00:14:15,661 --> 00:14:20,481 And then finally, it just. 145 00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:26,841 It's like a bubble pops and it just lifts. Everything lifts 146 00:14:26,841 --> 00:14:31,241 and it's very light and everything is just gone and 147 00:14:31,241 --> 00:14:35,961 quiet. I learned that spirits are very real, that not all 148 00:14:35,961 --> 00:14:40,601 spirits are nice. I learned that if you think it's there, 149 00:14:40,601 --> 00:14:46,561 you're not crazy. It may be hard to believe but Mandy got 150 00:14:46,561 --> 00:14:49,841 away lightly. At least the ghost of a murdered child in 151 00:14:49,841 --> 00:14:54,001 her home did not physically harm Mandy or her family. Frank 152 00:14:54,001 --> 00:14:59,521 Madrid cannot say the same of his experience. 153 00:15:03,161 --> 00:15:06,621 Sticks. 154 00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:17,301 Because my dad was in the navy. We ended up in national city. 155 00:15:17,301 --> 00:15:23,061 National city is a city that's close to San Diego. Kinda like 156 00:15:23,061 --> 00:15:27,781 Victorian houses but small and you know, everything there I 157 00:15:27,781 --> 00:15:34,501 remember was just old. It had a good creep factor to it. 158 00:15:36,661 --> 00:15:41,961 One day I was riding my bike and I saw this little boy of 159 00:15:41,961 --> 00:15:45,001 this house that was on the corner. So I just rode over 160 00:15:45,001 --> 00:15:50,361 there and said hi to him and we started talking and he was kind 161 00:15:50,361 --> 00:15:56,661 of lonely and scared. He was very quiet, very introverted. 162 00:15:56,661 --> 00:16:01,141 The house that he lived in, all the doors were boarded up. It 163 00:16:01,141 --> 00:16:04,341 was kind of strange. We didn't really think anything of it and 164 00:16:04,341 --> 00:16:09,381 then to hear the laughter of this little kid. 165 00:16:27,661 --> 00:16:32,721 In 1967, Frank Madrid's family had just moved to a new city. 166 00:16:32,721 --> 00:16:36,721 Making friends after you're moving around a lot is it's 167 00:16:36,721 --> 00:16:41,281 it's it's kind of hit and miss. Our father was in the navy and 168 00:16:41,281 --> 00:16:45,121 we moved around. Um Frank was born on the other side of the 169 00:16:45,121 --> 00:16:49,041 country in Virginia. I had no friends in the neighborhood. 170 00:16:49,041 --> 00:16:54,401 One day I was riding my bike and I saw this little boy of 171 00:16:54,401 --> 00:16:57,661 this house that was on the corner so I just rode over 172 00:16:57,661 --> 00:17:01,101 there and said hi to him and we started talking and I thought 173 00:17:01,101 --> 00:17:05,421 he was a friendly kid. I thought he was kind of lonely 174 00:17:05,421 --> 00:17:09,781 and scared for some reason. He was very quiet, very 175 00:17:09,781 --> 00:17:15,741 introverted. Said our goodbyes. I went back home. 176 00:17:19,661 --> 00:17:22,881 And the next day I'm riding my bike and I see him again so 177 00:17:22,881 --> 00:17:26,881 went over and started talking to him our father was gone a 178 00:17:26,881 --> 00:17:33,041 lot and everyone else was younger than he was so he kind 179 00:17:33,041 --> 00:17:35,721 of latched on to the first friend that he could make 180 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:40,881 wanting so desperately to have somebody to socialize with to 181 00:17:40,881 --> 00:17:45,521 play with you know I believe it got very intense very quickly 182 00:17:45,521 --> 00:17:49,841 and after a while of talking to him a few days you know he 183 00:17:49,841 --> 00:17:53,781 started lightning up and you know we'd make each other laugh 184 00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:57,221 and and you know it was kind of like a normal child 185 00:17:57,221 --> 00:18:01,461 relationship you know we we would play and laugh Frank 186 00:18:01,461 --> 00:18:04,741 enjoyed having a new friend even one who seemed a little 187 00:18:04,741 --> 00:18:11,681 strange I never saw him pick up anything He would just use his 188 00:18:11,681 --> 00:18:15,441 fingers for guns and stuff and I had plastic ones. He never 189 00:18:15,441 --> 00:18:20,321 would touch those. There were some times where I'd bring some 190 00:18:20,321 --> 00:18:24,161 toys over so we could play but he would never ever grab any of 191 00:18:24,161 --> 00:18:29,361 them. He wouldn't play with them. He just seemed to be 192 00:18:29,361 --> 00:18:32,401 kind of scared that you know, I think he was it it kind of 193 00:18:32,401 --> 00:18:35,041 almost kind of seemed like he was afraid that his parents 194 00:18:35,041 --> 00:18:40,161 would find out that he was playing with me or my toys. So, 195 00:18:40,161 --> 00:18:43,841 that's kind of impression I got from him. But being as young as 196 00:18:43,841 --> 00:18:47,441 I was, I really didn't pay attention to it because I 197 00:18:47,441 --> 00:18:50,241 didn't want to lose my friend. You know, I didn't want to 198 00:18:50,241 --> 00:18:54,081 cause any kind of problems. Nevertheless, it was becoming 199 00:18:54,081 --> 00:18:57,121 increasingly obvious to Frank that his new friend had 200 00:18:57,121 --> 00:19:00,721 something to hide. You know, you you get tired and work up a 201 00:19:00,721 --> 00:19:04,161 sweat and get hot and thirsty and you know, just 202 00:19:04,161 --> 00:19:10,081 Nonchalantly, hey, can I get a drink of water? No. 203 00:19:11,161 --> 00:19:15,661 Why can't I have a drink of water? Well, you can't go in 204 00:19:15,661 --> 00:19:20,141 the house. Well, why can't I go in the house? Because my 205 00:19:20,141 --> 00:19:25,041 parents aren't allowing anybody in the house. I go well can you 206 00:19:25,041 --> 00:19:32,221 go get me a drink of water? No. Why not? Cuz I can't go in the 207 00:19:32,221 --> 00:19:37,861 house right now. So, you know, this is really confusing to 208 00:19:37,861 --> 00:19:41,701 little kid. You know, I want to drink water. You won't get it 209 00:19:41,701 --> 00:19:44,901 for me. You know, you kind of get a little upset, you know. 210 00:19:44,901 --> 00:19:47,061 Well, I'm going to go home and I'm going to get my own drink 211 00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:50,901 of water. The argument over the glass of water had an immediate 212 00:19:50,901 --> 00:19:56,761 impact on the boy's friendship. Things did change after that. 213 00:19:56,761 --> 00:20:02,161 He was more withdrawn into himself and he didn't really 214 00:20:02,161 --> 00:20:06,001 laugh anymore. We couldn't just have fun like we were having 215 00:20:06,001 --> 00:20:14,721 fun before. One day, went over there to play and you know, so 216 00:20:14,721 --> 00:20:19,041 the first time in a long time, he was excited because he told 217 00:20:19,041 --> 00:20:23,281 me I found something. Well, what did you find? Well, I 218 00:20:23,281 --> 00:20:27,821 found an axle over here. So, we went over there and he showed 219 00:20:27,821 --> 00:20:32,541 me where he found this old, small hatchet. 220 00:20:33,661 --> 00:20:38,161 And I remember it being just you know really old and ancient 221 00:20:38,161 --> 00:20:41,921 and and rusty and just you know laying there half buried in the 222 00:20:41,921 --> 00:20:45,441 dirt he told me you know pick it up let's go let's go chop 223 00:20:45,441 --> 00:20:48,241 something I said no I'm not going to pick it up and he 224 00:20:48,241 --> 00:20:52,081 kind of got upset and he was you know really forceful he 225 00:20:52,081 --> 00:20:56,081 picked the thing up let's go over here and chop some wood to 226 00:20:56,081 --> 00:21:00,961 appease his request it's like okay pick it up 227 00:21:03,661 --> 00:21:07,361 and followed him over to this little log that was laying 228 00:21:07,361 --> 00:21:14,641 there. And he's telling me to chop it and I'm thinking I 229 00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:21,141 better not you know why don't you chop it he goes I can't why 230 00:21:21,141 --> 00:21:28,201 can't you? I just can't. So, I said, alright, I'll chop it. 231 00:21:28,201 --> 00:21:31,561 So, I got the accent. 232 00:21:52,661 --> 00:21:57,561 It was 1967 in National City, California when young Frank 233 00:21:57,561 --> 00:22:01,081 Madrid made a new friend. But his new buddy had started 234 00:22:01,081 --> 00:22:06,641 acting very oddly. Why don't you chop him? He goes, I can't. 235 00:22:06,641 --> 00:22:14,221 Oh, why can't you? I just can't. So, I said, alright, 236 00:22:14,221 --> 00:22:18,061 I'll chop it. So, I got the accent. 237 00:22:28,661 --> 00:22:34,361 The tip of the axe hit the dirt and the gravel and the wood and 238 00:22:34,361 --> 00:22:38,921 I had some gravel fly up into my eye. Immediately everything 239 00:22:38,921 --> 00:22:43,641 went white with big gloves of red. 240 00:22:44,161 --> 00:22:47,621 I ran home screaming because I couldn't see out of my eye 241 00:22:47,621 --> 00:22:51,461 anymore. The one thing that I remember that I won't ever 242 00:22:51,461 --> 00:22:56,101 forget was the horrible laughter that he was laughing 243 00:22:56,101 --> 00:23:00,101 when I was running home screaming. 244 00:23:08,161 --> 00:23:14,061 And that laughter followed me all the way home. When I got 245 00:23:14,061 --> 00:23:19,041 home, they my folks took me to the hospital and I've had nine 246 00:23:19,041 --> 00:23:23,281 major operations on it and four minor ones after that. They 247 00:23:23,281 --> 00:23:25,921 didn't have the technology that they do these days so they 248 00:23:25,921 --> 00:23:29,841 really couldn't reattach the retina. The incident left Frank 249 00:23:29,841 --> 00:23:33,921 blind in his right eye for the rest of his life. Are you 250 00:23:33,921 --> 00:23:38,081 comfortable taking your glasses off and talking about it 251 00:23:38,081 --> 00:23:44,721 because I'm. I can't see you but there I am. So 252 00:23:45,661 --> 00:23:52,361 Do what it is. Plastic. 253 00:23:55,661 --> 00:24:01,441 When I would hear about Frank's accident, it always was 254 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:05,601 centered around this boy on the corner. I mean, there's just so 255 00:24:05,601 --> 00:24:08,641 many things that I couldn't understand at the time because 256 00:24:08,641 --> 00:24:13,721 I was too young. And you think about about things that 257 00:24:13,721 --> 00:24:18,281 happened. The clothing that he wore, red and white striped 258 00:24:18,281 --> 00:24:21,961 shirt, blue jeans rolled up at the cuffs, and the black 259 00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:26,981 high-top tennis shoes with the white balls on the side. This 260 00:24:26,981 --> 00:24:30,261 kid, all the days that I've seen him, those are the same 261 00:24:30,261 --> 00:24:33,621 clothes he wore all the time. 262 00:24:38,161 --> 00:24:45,221 The house that he lived in, nobody lives there. It's 263 00:24:45,221 --> 00:24:50,741 abandoned. My childhood friend, this kid that nobody else could 264 00:24:50,741 --> 00:24:56,261 see but me was was a spirit kid. 265 00:25:04,661 --> 00:25:07,881 Children haven't been conditioned by their parents or 266 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:11,561 society to not believe in the paranormal. What's part of 267 00:25:11,561 --> 00:25:13,961 their reality basically, child's spirits when they're 268 00:25:13,961 --> 00:25:18,281 dealing with human children really come across as valid and 269 00:25:18,281 --> 00:25:20,841 legitimate. They don't seem to be a spirit and the children 270 00:25:20,841 --> 00:25:23,881 are very open-minded and accepting of them. He was very 271 00:25:23,881 --> 00:25:27,241 open to it. He was, I mean, I don't want to use the word 272 00:25:27,241 --> 00:25:30,761 desperate because it sounds negative but in this situation, 273 00:25:30,761 --> 00:25:33,241 it makes sense that he was desperate to make a friend to 274 00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:35,881 have some kind of companionship there in a place where he knew 275 00:25:35,881 --> 00:25:44,161 nobody. I think the little boy died in that house and I think 276 00:25:44,161 --> 00:25:47,921 the parents were so distraught about it that they moved away. 277 00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:50,641 And his energy is still there, his soul and spirit, however 278 00:25:50,641 --> 00:25:54,721 you want to say it. So he went to what was familiar and what 279 00:25:54,721 --> 00:25:58,321 was familiar was that house. 280 00:25:59,661 --> 00:26:03,281 And everyone back to the house to his house to see if he was 281 00:26:03,281 --> 00:26:07,321 there or not. Uh I wanted to stay away from that place. I 282 00:26:07,321 --> 00:26:10,441 didn't want nothing to do with him. Or anything. I mean that 283 00:26:10,441 --> 00:26:13,321 laughter was still in my head. And there's no way that you 284 00:26:13,321 --> 00:26:17,721 know to this day I I can't forget it. 285 00:26:19,161 --> 00:26:25,981 Many years later, Frank had another paranormal encounter. 286 00:26:33,021 --> 00:26:38,601 It seemed like we had met before. I go and talk to him 287 00:26:38,601 --> 00:26:42,441 and as I'm talking to him, 288 00:26:44,161 --> 00:26:48,981 He starts to fade and I can see through him and then he just 289 00:26:48,981 --> 00:26:54,341 vanishes right before my eyes. Just gone. Very well could be 290 00:26:54,341 --> 00:26:59,461 the little boy on the corner as a man. It's possible that the 291 00:26:59,461 --> 00:27:02,741 child's spirit aged somehow on the other side and return to 292 00:27:02,741 --> 00:27:06,821 visit him to show him that you know here I am. I've grown up 293 00:27:06,821 --> 00:27:09,541 with you and it's good to see you again type of scenario but 294 00:27:09,541 --> 00:27:12,821 it's also possible that that child's spirit maybe had 295 00:27:12,821 --> 00:27:15,861 another spirit go and visit him in an adult form because it was 296 00:27:15,861 --> 00:27:19,661 more socially acceptable or understandable. This gentleman 297 00:27:19,661 --> 00:27:24,161 just standing there in the middle of of the road there. 298 00:27:24,161 --> 00:27:28,401 Looking directly at Frank. There was some knowledge of who 299 00:27:28,401 --> 00:27:32,881 he was. Since their childhood friendship was so intense that 300 00:27:32,881 --> 00:27:36,521 there would have been more. If the axe incident was 301 00:27:36,521 --> 00:27:39,761 intentional, I would expect that person to say, gotcha and 302 00:27:39,761 --> 00:27:42,801 if it was unintentional and if it was just a fluke, then I 303 00:27:42,801 --> 00:27:46,401 would also expect to say, I'm really sorry that that happened 304 00:27:46,401 --> 00:27:50,401 to you and not just faded away as he got close. There's just 305 00:27:50,401 --> 00:27:53,661 too much unfinished business there. That's kind of an evil 306 00:27:53,661 --> 00:27:58,701 to do. Frank will never forget this episode of his life. His 307 00:27:58,701 --> 00:28:03,501 injury reminds him of his ghostly friend everyday. When 308 00:28:03,501 --> 00:28:08,541 people tell you ghosts can't hurt you, they can cause and 309 00:28:08,541 --> 00:28:12,861 affect harm to you. That'll haunt me as for as, you know, 310 00:28:12,861 --> 00:28:17,821 as long as I live. It's just something like that. 311 00:28:20,161 --> 00:28:24,181 The presence of the spirits of dead children should never be 312 00:28:24,181 --> 00:28:27,861 ignored. They are often the first sign that a portal to the 313 00:28:27,861 --> 00:28:31,861 spirit world has been opened. 314 00:28:35,161 --> 00:28:39,101 Not a mark. Mark. 315 00:28:46,661 --> 00:28:51,281 My husband had lost his job due to a back injury. I was 316 00:28:51,281 --> 00:28:55,321 diagnosed a long time ago with Crohn's disease but I gotten 317 00:28:55,321 --> 00:28:59,321 really sick, couldn't work anymore. We needed a place to 318 00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:04,121 stay so we decided we take the house. It used to be what they 319 00:29:04,121 --> 00:29:08,521 call veterans housing. We had our first son together. His 320 00:29:08,521 --> 00:29:13,561 name is Jordan. When we moved into the house. The first thing 321 00:29:13,561 --> 00:29:17,401 I remember is we couldn't get our mattress up the stairs. Um 322 00:29:17,401 --> 00:29:21,221 it was too narrow of an area. We had to sleep all the sofa 323 00:29:21,221 --> 00:29:30,161 bed. I woke up to smelling like flowers, like roses. 324 00:29:30,661 --> 00:29:35,161 I'm a Christian and it was always said that if you smell 325 00:29:35,161 --> 00:29:39,481 flowers or roses, it could be the Holy Spirit so I tried to 326 00:29:39,481 --> 00:29:42,921 maybe think it was something like that but it didn't feel 327 00:29:42,921 --> 00:29:46,041 refreshing because it smelt more like when you go to a 328 00:29:46,041 --> 00:29:49,241 funeral home like death. 329 00:29:54,661 --> 00:29:59,001 It reminded me of death. 330 00:30:14,161 --> 00:30:19,461 It was very uneasy. Um it was uneasy that I made the 331 00:30:19,461 --> 00:30:22,341 statement all the time that I don't feel like this is at 332 00:30:22,341 --> 00:30:26,961 home. I can't put my finger on. I just couldn't figure it out 333 00:30:26,961 --> 00:30:30,161 what it was about the house. 334 00:30:32,161 --> 00:30:35,701 The family had not been living in the house long before Don 335 00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:38,981 noticed Jordan was displaying some disturbing behavior. 336 00:30:38,981 --> 00:30:44,581 Jordan was playing on the stairs inside the hallway. At 337 00:30:44,581 --> 00:30:50,541 the bottom of the stairs was a rocking chair. Jordan got in 338 00:30:50,541 --> 00:30:55,181 the chair and would swing back and forth and say, baby hurt, 339 00:30:55,181 --> 00:31:01,181 baby hurt. Over and over again and I'd say, Jordan, what do 340 00:31:01,181 --> 00:31:07,661 you mean by that? And he said, the baby got hurt. He said, 341 00:31:07,661 --> 00:31:10,301 yeah, there's a little girl standing there at the top of 342 00:31:10,301 --> 00:31:13,101 the stairs. 343 00:31:14,661 --> 00:31:19,801 And I had no idea what he was talking about. 344 00:31:21,101 --> 00:31:29,481 And I said I don't see her. He said, look mama, there's Ally. 345 00:31:30,161 --> 00:31:37,621 Ally was my neighbor's daughter that passed away. I had heard 346 00:31:37,621 --> 00:31:41,061 about my neighbor's daughter probably about a month after 347 00:31:41,061 --> 00:31:44,981 living there. She had died at four. She was only 4 years old. 348 00:31:44,981 --> 00:31:48,661 It it was just some sort of weird virus and medication but 349 00:31:48,661 --> 00:31:52,981 she had died in the house. Jordan did not know who she was 350 00:31:52,981 --> 00:31:58,581 or her name. A There was no way that he knew but that wasn't 351 00:31:58,581 --> 00:32:00,901 the first time he told me things that there was no way he 352 00:32:00,901 --> 00:32:03,861 could possibly know. 353 00:32:06,161 --> 00:32:10,821 With Jordan's behavior on her mind, Dawn confided in a new 354 00:32:10,821 --> 00:32:14,101 friend. She had ended up telling me that she was into 355 00:32:14,101 --> 00:32:18,261 witchcraft. She started to say me, well maybe if you use tarot 356 00:32:18,261 --> 00:32:21,301 cards, you can get some answers. She gave me a book and 357 00:32:21,301 --> 00:32:24,261 she gave me the cards and I took them home and I started 358 00:32:24,261 --> 00:32:27,381 playing with them. 359 00:32:29,161 --> 00:32:36,841 I would ask questions to the cards. I just kept wondering 360 00:32:36,841 --> 00:32:40,121 if, you know, he was really seeing Ally, what he was really 361 00:32:40,121 --> 00:32:42,761 seeing. 362 00:32:46,161 --> 00:32:49,781 It can be dangerous for people to use spiritual divination 363 00:32:49,781 --> 00:32:52,821 tools such as tarot if they don't have the knowledge or 364 00:32:52,821 --> 00:32:55,621 know how and and how to use these items. You can open 365 00:32:55,621 --> 00:32:59,141 doorways. Um hauntings can begin. Entities can come 366 00:32:59,141 --> 00:33:02,101 through and actually attach themselves to the people that 367 00:33:02,101 --> 00:33:05,861 are using these tools. Don't dabbling with the tarot cards 368 00:33:05,861 --> 00:33:09,781 seem to make the situation worse. With Jordan, his room 369 00:33:09,781 --> 00:33:13,061 was very uncomfortable for everybody. Nobody could stay in 370 00:33:13,061 --> 00:33:22,061 that room. Jordan didn't want to sleep in that room. One 371 00:33:22,061 --> 00:33:25,581 time he told me he saw a whole family. It was a mother, a son, 372 00:33:25,581 --> 00:33:30,781 and a daughter with bullet wounds in their head. 373 00:33:34,661 --> 00:33:38,121 And then all of a sudden all those were gone and the only 374 00:33:38,121 --> 00:33:41,961 one there was one he called the man. 375 00:33:58,661 --> 00:34:02,441 Don Pearce's family had moved into a new home and immediately 376 00:34:02,441 --> 00:34:07,401 started experiencing paranormal activity. Don's young son had 377 00:34:07,401 --> 00:34:13,321 started seeing the ghost of a child. Then, he started seeing 378 00:34:13,321 --> 00:34:17,001 other phantoms in his bedroom. One time he told me he saw a 379 00:34:17,001 --> 00:34:20,601 whole family, it was a mother, a son, and a daughter with 380 00:34:20,601 --> 00:34:26,601 bullet wounds in their head. And then all of a sudden, all 381 00:34:26,601 --> 00:34:29,321 those were gone and the only one there was one he called the 382 00:34:29,321 --> 00:34:31,721 man. 383 00:34:34,661 --> 00:34:38,761 And the man wasn't very nice. And the man said some terrible 384 00:34:38,761 --> 00:34:44,281 things and the man told him to tell me horrific things. 385 00:34:46,161 --> 00:34:49,541 He says the man told me to tell you as long as you live here, 386 00:34:49,541 --> 00:34:54,021 he's going to keep you sick and make sure you stay sick. 387 00:34:55,661 --> 00:34:59,441 My husband's like, why don't you throw a recorder in 388 00:34:59,441 --> 00:35:03,441 Jordan's room and see what you get? So I said, okay, that's a 389 00:35:03,441 --> 00:35:06,561 good idea. I put the recorder in the room. Nobody was home 390 00:35:06,561 --> 00:35:10,321 and I put it on top of Bible. 391 00:35:11,661 --> 00:35:16,001 And when I went and I rewinded my recorder and listened, I 392 00:35:16,001 --> 00:35:21,121 heard the worst. I can't even it it still plays it was like 393 00:35:21,121 --> 00:35:25,761 the most blood curdling thing I heard it say. 394 00:35:27,161 --> 00:35:31,501 It was just like the most evilest thing I've ever heard 395 00:35:31,501 --> 00:35:35,181 like it's engraved in my brain to this day. It was scary 396 00:35:35,181 --> 00:35:39,981 because I'm thinking what did I do to open these doors? 397 00:35:41,201 --> 00:35:45,261 Terrified, Dawn started looking into ways of protecting her 398 00:35:45,261 --> 00:35:47,741 family. I just kind of learned about some prayers of 399 00:35:47,741 --> 00:35:52,861 protection and one of them was Psalm ninety-one. My son was 400 00:35:52,861 --> 00:35:55,821 taking a bath. 401 00:36:00,661 --> 00:36:04,361 And all of a sudden it was like his eyes looked different like 402 00:36:04,361 --> 00:36:10,901 he looked sinister. And he seemed to get like super strong 403 00:36:10,901 --> 00:36:16,421 and it wasn't wasn't him. I knew it wasn't him. 404 00:36:26,161 --> 00:36:30,821 The lord is my shepherd I shall not walk he make it me to lie 405 00:36:30,821 --> 00:36:36,421 down in green in pastures surely So I opened the Bible 406 00:36:36,421 --> 00:36:40,021 and I started reading Psalm ninety-one as I did. He started 407 00:36:40,021 --> 00:36:43,381 thrashing around in the tub and he's like you shut up you dumb 408 00:36:43,381 --> 00:36:46,821 whore **** Call me all kinds of names. Lord is my shepherd. I 409 00:36:46,821 --> 00:36:50,181 shall not want keeping me to lie down in the green pastures. 410 00:36:50,181 --> 00:36:53,781 He lead us. And eventually it stopped. It might have been 411 00:36:53,781 --> 00:36:56,901 just one or two minutes but it seemed like the the longest one 412 00:36:56,901 --> 00:37:00,101 or two minutes. And when it broke he started crying and he 413 00:37:00,101 --> 00:37:04,901 said mommy mommy that wasn't me. That wasn't me. 414 00:37:06,661 --> 00:37:10,521 When you're trying to protect your child, you do anything to 415 00:37:10,521 --> 00:37:16,121 protect them but when you can't see or physically feel what's 416 00:37:16,121 --> 00:37:20,201 attacking them, you can feel hopeless and helpless. At this 417 00:37:20,201 --> 00:37:24,201 point, Dawn was desperate to get help for her son. And at 418 00:37:24,201 --> 00:37:27,881 that time, that's when I met Joe. She was telling us that 419 00:37:27,881 --> 00:37:30,921 she believed that her home was haunted and that her son was 420 00:37:30,921 --> 00:37:35,641 seeing things and he was talking to spirits. Dawn had 421 00:37:35,641 --> 00:37:39,401 mentioned a couple of different smells in the house. Just 422 00:37:39,401 --> 00:37:44,481 before spirit may show up, you will smell a flower of some 423 00:37:44,481 --> 00:37:49,761 sort and and most usually roses and lilacs. Jordan believe that 424 00:37:49,761 --> 00:37:53,281 a little spirit, a little female was speaking to him. A 425 00:37:53,281 --> 00:37:58,481 child could relate to a child's spirit. The spirit of a girl 426 00:37:58,481 --> 00:38:02,641 that had passed away was trying to come through and the only 427 00:38:02,641 --> 00:38:05,601 way she could get anybody's attention was to go with 428 00:38:05,601 --> 00:38:08,641 somebody that was more on her mentality, a more on her 429 00:38:08,641 --> 00:38:13,521 wavelength, which would be another child. As the 430 00:38:13,521 --> 00:38:15,921 unraveling started and I started asking a bunch of 431 00:38:15,921 --> 00:38:21,161 questions, then certain things were like, okay, tarot cards. 432 00:38:21,161 --> 00:38:24,281 She had dabbled into a few things and then everything was 433 00:38:24,281 --> 00:38:28,521 done and get put back into perspective. If somebody is 434 00:38:28,521 --> 00:38:31,481 playing with tarot cards, they're divination tools. Those 435 00:38:31,481 --> 00:38:36,121 are tools to communicate with those that have passed. A lot 436 00:38:36,121 --> 00:38:39,321 of times, people just play with cards every so often, somebody 437 00:38:39,321 --> 00:38:43,881 makes a connection and the door does open. 438 00:38:44,661 --> 00:38:49,001 We have this thing in in the paranormal that if if something 439 00:38:49,001 --> 00:38:51,721 comes back, sometimes it could come back two, three times 440 00:38:51,721 --> 00:38:57,281 worse than it was originally. Valley of the shadows of death, 441 00:38:57,281 --> 00:39:02,961 I will fear no evil. It sounded like that's what happened. 442 00:39:03,661 --> 00:39:09,041 The game plan was to go find something. Something was there. 443 00:39:09,041 --> 00:39:11,841 We would try to pull it out. If not, we'd like to get some sort 444 00:39:11,841 --> 00:39:15,921 of evidence, just something to go on to show us that there is 445 00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:20,461 something supernatural happening in the home. We spent 446 00:39:20,461 --> 00:39:24,061 about, I'd say a good four, five hours of investigating. 447 00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:29,581 The very last sequence was in the basement. 448 00:39:33,161 --> 00:39:37,021 We set up cameras. We set up our video equipment. We took 449 00:39:37,021 --> 00:39:40,221 lots of pictures. 450 00:39:44,161 --> 00:39:47,701 I didn't have a good feeling going into the basement. I 451 00:39:47,701 --> 00:39:51,701 kind of felt it's almost like when you have the hair in the 452 00:39:51,701 --> 00:39:54,381 back of your neck stand up. It was one of those things and I'm 453 00:39:54,381 --> 00:39:57,061 like you know what? Uh let's go down here and let's check this 454 00:39:57,061 --> 00:40:02,381 out. Initially, I don't like to hit people with prayer right 455 00:40:02,381 --> 00:40:05,501 off the bat. I don't want to come off as anybody that's too 456 00:40:05,501 --> 00:40:08,621 religious or trying to make something out of nothing. My 457 00:40:08,621 --> 00:40:11,981 shepherd, I shall not want. But I felt compelled to pray into 458 00:40:11,981 --> 00:40:14,541 the house in in into the basement and that's what we 459 00:40:14,541 --> 00:40:19,821 did. Still waters. He restored me. 460 00:40:21,661 --> 00:40:26,961 And when Joe had called me about two days later and said I 461 00:40:26,961 --> 00:40:29,761 got something to play for you. You're going to you know it's 462 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:33,921 going to knock your socks off basically. 463 00:40:35,661 --> 00:40:39,841 At the very end of the tape, just before it ran out, I heard 464 00:40:39,841 --> 00:40:43,121 us saying the prayer. 465 00:40:43,661 --> 00:40:49,621 And you are no longer welcome here, evil spirit. And you know 466 00:40:49,621 --> 00:40:53,301 you must obey our commands. 467 00:41:10,161 --> 00:41:14,421 Dawn Pierce's life changed when her son Jordan began seeing the 468 00:41:14,421 --> 00:41:19,421 ghost of a child in their home. Run us over. Shoot me. After 469 00:41:19,421 --> 00:41:22,901 unsuccessfully trying to get rid of the spirit herself, Don 470 00:41:22,901 --> 00:41:25,861 called in professional paranormal investigator, Joe 471 00:41:25,861 --> 00:41:31,621 Citron. The very end of the tape, just before it ran out, I 472 00:41:31,621 --> 00:41:37,721 heard us saying the prayer. And you are no longer welcome here 473 00:41:37,721 --> 00:41:45,381 evil spirit. And you know you must obey our commands. 474 00:41:46,161 --> 00:41:52,301 And right during that time over what we were saying was a loud 475 00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:56,741 growl. In human growl that sound like a meal being kicked. 476 00:41:56,741 --> 00:42:01,701 I mean you know you must obey our commands. It was just the 477 00:42:01,701 --> 00:42:08,301 most god awful, loud scream like an animal was being 478 00:42:08,301 --> 00:42:12,501 tortured. And you know you must obey our commands. It is 479 00:42:12,501 --> 00:42:16,661 definitely an inhuman sound that came over that recorder. 480 00:42:16,661 --> 00:42:21,541 But I felt relieved because it validated what we've been going 481 00:42:21,541 --> 00:42:26,461 through. There is something supernatural happening in the 482 00:42:26,461 --> 00:42:28,861 home. 483 00:42:29,661 --> 00:42:33,201 Not long after Joe had investigated the home, the 484 00:42:33,201 --> 00:42:37,121 Pierce family were spending a normal evening together. Come 485 00:42:37,121 --> 00:42:39,841 here Joe. 486 00:42:41,301 --> 00:42:46,401 My husband, me, and Jordan were in my bedroom. My husband was 487 00:42:46,401 --> 00:42:49,361 on the computer. I was laying on the bed with Jordan and I 488 00:42:49,361 --> 00:42:51,361 was reading through the Bible and I started to read it out 489 00:42:51,361 --> 00:42:54,241 loud to him. 490 00:43:02,441 --> 00:43:06,501 And he started trashing around on the bed and hitting me and 491 00:43:06,501 --> 00:43:11,701 you know yelling obscenities. 492 00:43:22,661 --> 00:43:27,981 And I yelled, Mark, Mark, come over here, help me. He came 493 00:43:27,981 --> 00:43:30,941 over and he was restraining Jordan and he said to me, just 494 00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:34,461 keep reading, just keep going. 495 00:43:36,661 --> 00:43:39,961 He he was very strong and then all of a sudden he just 496 00:43:39,961 --> 00:43:42,841 stopped. 497 00:43:46,161 --> 00:43:51,621 Cried and again, you know, explaining that was not him. 498 00:43:55,161 --> 00:43:58,461 And I didn't know what to do with Jordan at that point. I 499 00:43:58,461 --> 00:44:06,741 just sitting there frustrated. And that must be hard for you. 500 00:44:06,741 --> 00:44:13,901 You know, were you blaming your son? I was blaming myself. What 501 00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:17,741 did I do to open these doors? 502 00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:29,541 I felt like my curiosity maybe opened it but I knew that there 503 00:44:29,541 --> 00:44:34,701 was something there from when we moved in. Things just 504 00:44:34,701 --> 00:44:39,981 weren't going to get any better and we had had enough. 505 00:44:45,161 --> 00:44:48,941 We spent four years in the house so there was a lot of 506 00:44:48,941 --> 00:44:52,141 different things that happened. He was young at the time and I 507 00:44:52,141 --> 00:44:57,661 thought maybe he would forget but he still hasn't forgotten. 508 00:45:04,161 --> 00:45:09,141 It was my first child and 509 00:45:10,661 --> 00:45:17,521 I I just I still blame myself because He has problems with 510 00:45:17,521 --> 00:45:22,401 PTSD and you can't tell a psychiatrist he wants to tell 511 00:45:22,401 --> 00:45:29,281 somebody why he's the way he is and instead, he has to deal 512 00:45:29,281 --> 00:45:33,681 with medication. He'll be thirteen but now he's been back 513 00:45:33,681 --> 00:45:36,161 to out on sleeping on the couch. He doesn't want to sleep 514 00:45:36,161 --> 00:45:39,441 in his own room. After what he's experienced, he wants to 515 00:45:39,441 --> 00:45:45,441 go back in my room. He can't sleep without the lights on. 516 00:45:46,161 --> 00:45:52,501 He could still hear things. He can't see them. Um he's become 517 00:45:52,501 --> 00:45:57,461 a little bit more closed off but he's very paranoid. Um very 518 00:45:57,461 --> 00:46:04,901 anxious. A lot of anxiety. Um 519 00:46:05,661 --> 00:46:10,481 I thank god that we did move. I didn't want to keep living 520 00:46:10,481 --> 00:46:15,841 there and live to be tortured every day. There's an evil 521 00:46:15,841 --> 00:46:19,681 entity in the house. You are about to see real people. I was 522 00:46:19,681 --> 00:46:23,441 terrified beyond belief. Reliving horrifying paranormal 523 00:46:23,441 --> 00:46:28,481 encounters for the first time. And there was this dark image 524 00:46:28,481 --> 00:46:32,961 right behind me. There's no mistaken that is a human body. 525 00:46:32,961 --> 00:46:37,821 As ghost soldiers come back to haunt the living. He was a a 526 00:46:37,821 --> 00:46:43,821 warrior up to this country. I buried this for nearly 30 527 00:46:43,821 --> 00:46:49,021 years. Be prepared to be afraid. 528 00:47:02,661 --> 00:47:08,281 Story 18, Ben, take two, marker. 529 00:47:12,161 --> 00:47:17,221 I am a retired Marine doing nearly twenty-four years in the 530 00:47:17,221 --> 00:47:20,741 Marine Corps and by every three or four years, the Marine Corps 531 00:47:20,741 --> 00:47:24,541 moves you, your whole household. It uproots you. 532 00:47:24,541 --> 00:47:27,861 Connecticut was open and I said, well, I'll take to 533 00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:32,821 Connecticut because my wife is from Connecticut. Constantly 534 00:47:32,821 --> 00:47:36,181 moving wasn't the hardest part of Ben's job. Among his 535 00:47:36,181 --> 00:47:39,381 responsibilities was the sad duty of informing the next of 536 00:47:39,381 --> 00:47:45,361 Ken when a soldier had died in combat. Then when we start the 537 00:47:45,361 --> 00:47:48,881 procedure of getting the remains home, I get to the 538 00:47:48,881 --> 00:47:51,761 funeral home, eye open to make sure it's uniform and 539 00:47:51,761 --> 00:47:54,641 everything is correct. Imma make sure he's ready for 540 00:47:54,641 --> 00:48:01,681 presentation and then I'm there with the family every day. 541 00:48:04,661 --> 00:48:08,201 We're looking for a place to live at now in Connecticut to 542 00:48:08,201 --> 00:48:11,961 to settle down. We were looking around the state, you know, 543 00:48:11,961 --> 00:48:14,841 some of the nicer areas and somehow his Email popped up 544 00:48:14,841 --> 00:48:18,921 with this house in Meridian. So we're like, we'll go check it 545 00:48:18,921 --> 00:48:25,241 out, you know. So as we pulled in the driveway, we saw this 546 00:48:25,241 --> 00:48:31,701 huge barn in the back. Ben and his wife Janice experienced a 547 00:48:31,701 --> 00:48:35,701 strong draw towards the barn. 548 00:48:48,661 --> 00:48:52,441 There was the people had packed up all their tubs and stuck 549 00:48:52,441 --> 00:48:57,001 them out there and now said Janice on it which was my 550 00:48:57,001 --> 00:49:00,761 wife's name and took that as a sign first of all that her name 551 00:49:00,761 --> 00:49:04,601 was on it all over the inside the barn 552 00:49:09,161 --> 00:49:13,021 So when we went in the house to see the family who owned the 553 00:49:13,021 --> 00:49:17,901 house, a gentleman and his wife turned out he was a marine. So 554 00:49:17,901 --> 00:49:23,341 with all those signs we said no this must be the house. 555 00:49:25,161 --> 00:49:28,701 Uh we bought the house in December and ended up moving in 556 00:49:28,701 --> 00:49:33,741 in January but I wasn't sure what I was going to do with the 557 00:49:33,741 --> 00:49:41,701 barn. And suddenly it just started coming to me and I 558 00:49:41,701 --> 00:49:46,501 started hanging up my flags that we've flown in falluja we 559 00:49:46,501 --> 00:49:51,701 started putting up things on the walls just of of my time in 560 00:49:51,701 --> 00:49:54,581 in the marines 561 00:49:59,161 --> 00:50:03,661 We have pictures of everybody who was killed while we're over 562 00:50:03,661 --> 00:50:08,941 there. Um of everybody who had to notify their families. Uh 563 00:50:08,941 --> 00:50:11,741 those who have come back and have committed suicide. We've 564 00:50:11,741 --> 00:50:14,941 added them to their pictures to the wall. So when people come 565 00:50:14,941 --> 00:50:18,941 up there they can see them. Um remember them the way they 566 00:50:18,941 --> 00:50:23,181 were. The barn became a memorial to the soldiers that 567 00:50:23,181 --> 00:50:27,741 Ben had encountered during his military career. 568 00:50:28,861 --> 00:50:32,361 I 569 00:50:33,661 --> 00:50:38,001 As Ben settled into his new home, he continued to be drawn 570 00:50:38,001 --> 00:50:43,061 to the barn. There's times you can go up there and it's just 571 00:50:43,061 --> 00:50:48,881 kind of odd. And the wind started picking up. Started 572 00:50:48,881 --> 00:50:54,081 hearing the dogs running back and forth upstairs in the barn. 573 00:50:54,081 --> 00:50:58,081 So we went to go check on the dogs. 574 00:50:59,661 --> 00:51:02,721 And the dogs weren't up there. There was nobody there. There 575 00:51:02,721 --> 00:51:08,281 was nothing there. Came back downstairs and the wind and 576 00:51:08,281 --> 00:51:11,401 everything just stopped. 577 00:51:15,161 --> 00:51:20,141 I was in my house one night about 9 930 when I suddenly get 578 00:51:20,141 --> 00:51:23,181 I get these feelings when my hair stands up and say I need 579 00:51:23,181 --> 00:51:26,221 to come out to the barn. 580 00:51:28,661 --> 00:51:33,641 I have no explanation for it. It's just I get a sense and I 581 00:51:33,641 --> 00:51:36,601 go out to the barn. 582 00:51:38,161 --> 00:51:43,701 Ben was certain that he had heard footsteps upstairs. 583 00:51:53,661 --> 00:51:58,161 You can clearly hear footsteps are running back and forth up 584 00:51:58,161 --> 00:52:01,921 there shuffling. 585 00:52:05,161 --> 00:52:09,661 And the wind and everything just stopped. 586 00:52:13,661 --> 00:52:17,601 And then as I looked on the wall, one of the pictures of 587 00:52:17,601 --> 00:52:23,361 the guys that were had been taken off the nail 588 00:52:27,161 --> 00:52:30,621 And when you look at that little edge, ledge there, 589 00:52:30,621 --> 00:52:34,781 there's no way it could have fell that far. 590 00:52:37,661 --> 00:52:43,201 It was obviously taken down set and it was off the nail not 591 00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,981 only was off the nail but the nail was gone I said 592 00:52:46,981 --> 00:52:49,301 something's wrong and I couldn't figure out what and I 593 00:52:49,301 --> 00:52:55,861 I sat there for a little while and I said something's happened 594 00:52:55,861 --> 00:53:02,501 to somebody or somebody's going in that spot 595 00:53:05,161 --> 00:53:08,781 and it's not going to be a marine. With the time I was 596 00:53:08,781 --> 00:53:10,941 very concerned because my oldest son was in Afghanistan 597 00:53:10,941 --> 00:53:13,901 in the army. 598 00:53:15,661 --> 00:53:19,681 Ben was deeply troubled but did his best to put the worrying 599 00:53:19,681 --> 00:53:24,681 thoughts out of his mind. The next day I went to a benefit 600 00:53:24,681 --> 00:53:28,441 concert someone comes up to me says hey Ben we have a mother 601 00:53:28,441 --> 00:53:32,761 over here and she's crying do you mind talking to her I say 602 00:53:32,761 --> 00:53:35,881 yeah absolutely I'm talking to her and turned out that her son 603 00:53:35,881 --> 00:53:41,481 was in the army he had lost both legs in Afghanistan came 604 00:53:41,481 --> 00:53:45,401 back and got killed in a car accident so I was trying to 605 00:53:45,401 --> 00:53:48,761 make her feel better and and talking to her about the bar 606 00:53:48,761 --> 00:53:53,161 and and she goes well I have a picture of him can you hang in 607 00:53:53,161 --> 00:53:55,641 barn. 608 00:53:57,661 --> 00:54:01,041 So I brought it back. This was the next day after that night 609 00:54:01,041 --> 00:54:04,961 at the barn. So I brought that back and I put that picture. So 610 00:54:04,961 --> 00:54:10,881 it's almost the crazy coincidences, I don't know but 611 00:54:10,881 --> 00:54:16,001 I mean, the barn told me there was going to be somebody. 612 00:54:22,161 --> 00:54:26,581 My mind starts saying, okay, am I imagining this stuff? Am I 613 00:54:26,581 --> 00:54:29,701 making this stuff up for myself? You know, because of 614 00:54:29,701 --> 00:54:34,581 being in a war so many times or and I almost thought, do I need 615 00:54:34,581 --> 00:54:38,021 to go to psychiatrist? 616 00:54:40,661 --> 00:54:48,041 And I had this barn gathering. I do it once a year and Kurt 617 00:54:48,041 --> 00:54:52,761 happened to come to it. He was a Vietnam era vet. I met Ben 618 00:54:52,761 --> 00:54:56,441 when we were both members of a veterans organization that was 619 00:54:56,441 --> 00:55:00,601 concerned with fundraising for veterans activities and he 620 00:55:00,601 --> 00:55:05,641 found out what I do is a a vocation, paranormal 621 00:55:05,641 --> 00:55:09,881 investigation and we talked about a few minutes ago, you 622 00:55:09,881 --> 00:55:13,561 know, if you like You know, I like to come and set up at the 623 00:55:13,561 --> 00:55:19,241 barn. At the time, I wasn't good with it. Um it was many, 624 00:55:19,241 --> 00:55:23,081 many months before I felt comfortable with the notion of 625 00:55:23,081 --> 00:55:27,681 him coming and doing the cameras and I didn't want to 626 00:55:27,681 --> 00:55:32,281 say there's nothing here and maybe kill it for the families 627 00:55:32,281 --> 00:55:35,801 who did believe. I was still very neutral but I was at the 628 00:55:35,801 --> 00:55:39,401 point where my head was really confused on everything that was 629 00:55:39,401 --> 00:55:41,641 happening in the barn and that so many other people were 630 00:55:41,641 --> 00:55:46,881 noticing also. Ben's hope was that Kurt would provide answers 631 00:55:46,881 --> 00:55:51,461 to the unexplained events in the barn. The day of the 632 00:55:51,461 --> 00:55:56,181 investigation, we arrived about 7 o'clock. 633 00:55:58,661 --> 00:56:02,521 We set up our cameras, we set up recording equipment, 634 00:56:02,521 --> 00:56:06,201 infrared illuminators. 635 00:56:20,161 --> 00:56:25,141 Getting something here. It's really hot here, Ben. 636 00:56:39,661 --> 00:56:43,441 Turn this off. 637 00:57:05,161 --> 00:57:09,341 Former marine Ben Granger was having strange experiences in 638 00:57:09,341 --> 00:57:12,141 his barn. 639 00:57:13,661 --> 00:57:17,201 Getting something here. It's really hot here, Ben. He turned 640 00:57:17,201 --> 00:57:22,001 to a paranormal investigator to find answers. 641 00:57:23,161 --> 00:57:26,781 I've been investigating the paranormal for about 35 years. 642 00:57:26,781 --> 00:57:29,741 This was probably the most intense experience that I 643 00:57:29,741 --> 00:57:33,901 personally had had in all that time. It definitely wanted to 644 00:57:33,901 --> 00:57:38,781 to let me know it was around and it did. 645 00:57:50,161 --> 00:57:55,781 But I was basically holy that's all I can say. We're able to 646 00:57:55,781 --> 00:58:00,901 confirm a lot of the things that been had claimed. You can 647 00:58:00,901 --> 00:58:04,821 see a dark figure standing to the left of them. There's no 648 00:58:04,821 --> 00:58:08,901 mistake in that is a human body. 649 00:58:12,161 --> 00:58:15,381 They realized that they're not crazy, that there is something 650 00:58:15,381 --> 00:58:19,701 going on there and someone else was able to prove it. You see 651 00:58:19,701 --> 00:58:23,461 that? Yeah. And just as the shadow figure passed in front 652 00:58:23,461 --> 00:58:28,781 of Ben, we'd heard the name Dave loud and clear. 653 00:58:28,781 --> 00:58:31,781 Unbelievable. 654 00:58:32,661 --> 00:58:38,041 The next steps were to bring Karen Hollis in. Karen Hollis 655 00:58:38,041 --> 00:58:43,221 is a psychic medium with a gift for contacting spirits. Before 656 00:58:43,221 --> 00:58:48,021 I even got to Ben's house, I was turning the corner and no 657 00:58:48,021 --> 00:58:51,621 sooner did I turn the corner than I heard in my backseat of 658 00:58:51,621 --> 00:58:57,781 my vehicle. Hi, I'm Dave. Dave and that I knew I had a 659 00:58:57,781 --> 00:59:02,581 discordant spirit with me already. Karen as a 660 00:59:02,581 --> 00:59:08,061 clairaudient medium has the ability to make contact with 661 00:59:08,061 --> 00:59:12,661 deceased family members, deceased friends. She was able 662 00:59:12,661 --> 00:59:16,581 to tell Ben things that she could not possibly have had 663 00:59:16,581 --> 00:59:20,981 prior knowledge of. My take on Ben when I when I mentioned it 664 00:59:20,981 --> 00:59:26,501 Dave's name was that he immediately kind of recoiled 665 00:59:26,501 --> 00:59:30,501 and looked at me in a very confused way as if to say how 666 00:59:30,501 --> 00:59:37,561 do you know who Dave is? As Karen began her investigation, 667 00:59:37,561 --> 00:59:41,561 she knew she was not alone. 668 00:59:57,701 --> 01:00:03,281 Dave? I was the first. 669 01:00:04,161 --> 01:00:08,941 And David was the first casualty that I had to notify 670 01:00:08,941 --> 01:00:14,341 the mother. Karen explained to Ben that the Barn Memorial had 671 01:00:14,341 --> 01:00:19,941 drawn the spirits of Dave and other fallen soldiers. I do 672 01:00:19,941 --> 01:00:23,461 believe a memorial acts as an invitation to open up a portal 673 01:00:23,461 --> 01:00:26,901 for spirits to come back and come through. Spirits will use 674 01:00:26,901 --> 01:00:30,581 that memorial or that invitation to maybe get one 675 01:00:30,581 --> 01:00:38,321 last message across. I started to experience voices, each one 676 01:00:38,321 --> 01:00:43,521 of the men in the barn started to tell their story one after 677 01:00:43,521 --> 01:00:46,241 the other. 678 01:00:48,161 --> 01:00:53,541 And then I would see and experience flashes of the 679 01:00:53,541 --> 01:01:00,901 battle of his particular death. Dave stood by each one of the 680 01:01:00,901 --> 01:01:05,461 young men as they came forward and he let them tell their 681 01:01:05,461 --> 01:01:14,041 stories first. He was the last one to tell his story. 682 01:01:31,161 --> 01:01:35,621 Former marine Ben Granger was having strange experiences in 683 01:01:35,621 --> 01:01:39,861 his barn and had invited in a medium. She quickly made 684 01:01:39,861 --> 01:01:44,581 contact with one of the soldiers from Ben's past. 685 01:01:45,161 --> 01:01:52,301 Dave left himself for very last to tell his story and he spoke 686 01:01:52,301 --> 01:01:59,421 of how he was how he was hit and how the bullet went and hit 687 01:01:59,421 --> 01:02:04,061 him in the head and how he was killed he gave me very specific 688 01:02:04,061 --> 01:02:08,301 information to tell Ben knowing that if he gave me that 689 01:02:08,301 --> 01:02:11,101 evidential information Ben would know that it was 690 01:02:11,101 --> 01:02:15,941 definitely him and he said to tell Ben that he specifically 691 01:02:15,941 --> 01:02:20,741 appreciated the fact that Ben had taken special care to make 692 01:02:20,741 --> 01:02:26,021 sure that the mortician had worked to cover the left hand 693 01:02:26,021 --> 01:02:31,461 side of his head because it had taken out a part of his skull 694 01:02:31,461 --> 01:02:37,461 and he did not want his mother or his father to be upset by 695 01:02:37,461 --> 01:02:41,861 that wound. I knew this because when I prepared the body for 696 01:02:41,861 --> 01:02:45,621 viewing that the funeral home, we placed a big white towel 697 01:02:45,621 --> 01:02:48,741 underneath his head to kind of hide all the bandages where 698 01:02:48,741 --> 01:02:53,401 where the funeral home fixed him up. So when you looked at 699 01:02:53,401 --> 01:02:56,681 him, you had no idea there was a hole in the side of his head. 700 01:02:56,681 --> 01:03:00,841 He was the very first one that I notified when I moved to 701 01:03:00,841 --> 01:03:04,801 Connecticut. I had to go notify a family that he was killed. 702 01:03:04,801 --> 01:03:09,241 And he almost burst into tears because he knew it was Dave. He 703 01:03:09,241 --> 01:03:16,121 knew there was no way that it could be anyone else. Knowing 704 01:03:16,121 --> 01:03:19,081 that the ghost soldiers were sending positive messages, Ben 705 01:03:19,081 --> 01:03:22,121 was reassured they meant no harm. He felt the spirit 706 01:03:22,121 --> 01:03:26,281 supported his efforts to honour them. 707 01:03:28,661 --> 01:03:31,801 And these young men wanted him to know how much they 708 01:03:31,801 --> 01:03:35,801 appreciated him. In fact, one of the young men even spoke 709 01:03:35,801 --> 01:03:40,121 about that there was always an honor guard there at the at the 710 01:03:40,121 --> 01:03:43,801 barn and that's why they were hearing footsteps and they 711 01:03:43,801 --> 01:03:47,321 would hear the footsteps all night long sometimes and it's 712 01:03:47,321 --> 01:03:51,801 the most well guarded barn I think in Meriden, Connecticut. 713 01:03:51,801 --> 01:03:55,521 I do believe that the type of people we are when we're alive 714 01:03:55,521 --> 01:04:00,381 carries over into the spirit realm in sense of duty of 715 01:04:00,381 --> 01:04:04,701 protection that you did once here on on Earth, you can have 716 01:04:04,701 --> 01:04:09,021 that same desire to do that in the spirit realm. As a marine, 717 01:04:09,021 --> 01:04:11,261 your job's never done. You take care of your marines and it 718 01:04:11,261 --> 01:04:13,341 felt a sense that even though these guys have lost their 719 01:04:13,341 --> 01:04:18,461 lives, there's quite a few on the wall. Um that I was still 720 01:04:18,461 --> 01:04:22,941 in a sense taking care of them, allow them to maybe get closure 721 01:04:22,941 --> 01:04:25,981 with their family, see their families, put them even in 722 01:04:25,981 --> 01:04:32,361 spirit form in a better or happier place which is the 723 01:04:32,361 --> 01:04:34,841 barn. 724 01:04:36,661 --> 01:04:40,281 Losing a life while serving in the military can leave a lot 725 01:04:40,281 --> 01:04:43,961 unsaid. With no preparation to leave the physical world, 726 01:04:43,961 --> 01:04:47,321 fallen soldiers have been known to travel across continents to 727 01:04:47,321 --> 01:04:50,441 get a message home. 728 01:04:59,661 --> 01:05:06,901 Christian interview, take one. I joined the military in 2006 729 01:05:06,901 --> 01:05:14,341 and I did deploy to Afghanistan with Task Force 110 in May of 730 01:05:14,341 --> 01:05:19,461 2010. I was I was excited but scared. The idea of going 731 01:05:19,461 --> 01:05:24,421 overseas to me is why I joined the military and it's kind of 732 01:05:24,421 --> 01:05:27,941 in my family. My as far as my name goes back, there's 733 01:05:27,941 --> 01:05:31,701 somebody that's been in the military. On the twenty-fourth 734 01:05:31,701 --> 01:05:37,761 of May, we were doing a normal resupply mission. I was the 735 01:05:37,761 --> 01:05:42,321 rear security for the vehicle so in the crewma trade we call 736 01:05:42,321 --> 01:05:45,521 it the Gib the guy in back he stands in the back of the 737 01:05:45,521 --> 01:05:52,241 vehicle watches out of the rear and my vehicle end up striking 738 01:05:52,241 --> 01:05:57,441 in IED. The explosion would have a lasting effect on 739 01:05:57,441 --> 01:06:01,681 Christian. I was ejected about a hundred and 20 feet or so 740 01:06:01,681 --> 01:06:07,021 from the vehicle After that, all I remember is yelling for 741 01:06:07,021 --> 01:06:11,501 my driver and I got no response. Christian's driver 742 01:06:11,501 --> 01:06:15,021 had been badly wounded. I remember doing first aid on 743 01:06:15,021 --> 01:06:24,461 him. And then I lost consciousness due to shock. Uh 744 01:06:24,461 --> 01:06:28,781 he unfortunately was killed that day. 745 01:06:30,661 --> 01:06:37,561 Because of my injuries I had to come home early. Um and my 746 01:06:37,561 --> 01:06:44,521 daughter was born November 11th so I was I was able to witness 747 01:06:44,521 --> 01:06:48,041 the birth and see my daughter born and and I I remember 748 01:06:48,041 --> 01:06:52,041 holding her for the first time. It was the the best day of my 749 01:06:52,041 --> 01:06:55,481 life. After the trauma of combat Christian was grateful 750 01:06:55,481 --> 01:07:00,921 for the tranquility of family life. But the calm would prove 751 01:07:00,921 --> 01:07:07,701 to be short lived. I start hearing knocking that you 752 01:07:07,701 --> 01:07:09,861 kind of just brush off because you thought it's your house 753 01:07:09,861 --> 01:07:17,481 creaking or expanding. And it's just intensified. That's all. 754 01:07:40,661 --> 01:07:48,381 I thought somebody was in the house. And I have some kit from 755 01:07:48,381 --> 01:07:51,661 when I was overseas. 756 01:08:08,661 --> 01:08:12,121 Christian Dandrea had recently experienced the death of his 757 01:08:12,121 --> 01:08:16,201 friend while on duty in Afghanistan. Quickly followed 758 01:08:16,201 --> 01:08:20,041 by the birth of his daughter. His instincts were on high 759 01:08:20,041 --> 01:08:24,821 alert when he thought he heard an intruder in his home. I 760 01:08:24,821 --> 01:08:30,421 freaked out and just grabbed my gun. 761 01:08:38,661 --> 01:08:41,961 Kind of walk through around my house and there's nothing 762 01:08:41,961 --> 01:08:44,601 there. 763 01:08:46,661 --> 01:08:53,721 I kind of just tried to brush it off and ignore it. But the 764 01:08:53,721 --> 01:08:59,601 events were not so easily ignored. One day I was talking 765 01:08:59,601 --> 01:09:03,361 to my neighbors I think me and my neighbor outside having a 766 01:09:03,361 --> 01:09:06,001 cigarette. We're just talking and I asked him like what time 767 01:09:06,001 --> 01:09:09,841 are you putting the girls to bed? He's just like but they've 768 01:09:09,841 --> 01:09:14,481 been in bed since 6 thirty-seven. And I was just 769 01:09:14,481 --> 01:09:18,401 like oh. He was why? I was like well I keep hearing banging and 770 01:09:18,401 --> 01:09:20,881 running over from your place. And he said the same thing. 771 01:09:20,881 --> 01:09:24,241 He's like well I thought you guys were fooling around or 772 01:09:24,241 --> 01:09:27,441 whatever. Because I can hear the same thing. And that's when 773 01:09:27,441 --> 01:09:33,381 I start Thinking that there's something else there. One of 774 01:09:33,381 --> 01:09:36,421 Christian's friends also had strange experiences in the 775 01:09:36,421 --> 01:09:39,781 house. What she told me is she saw three things standing 776 01:09:39,781 --> 01:09:42,581 behind her. 777 01:09:49,161 --> 01:09:52,141 And then they all turned and walked away and when she turned 778 01:09:52,141 --> 01:09:56,201 around, there was nothing there. I was like okay well 779 01:09:56,201 --> 01:10:00,521 you're over exaggerating. I think there's something in the 780 01:10:00,521 --> 01:10:03,401 house. I have no idea what it is. So she went over next door 781 01:10:03,401 --> 01:10:08,841 and got my neighbor and he came over and searched my house and 782 01:10:08,841 --> 01:10:15,001 there was nothing there. Uh she was scared to be in there. 783 01:10:16,661 --> 01:10:19,401 If I'm in the basement, if I'm walking past the basement 784 01:10:19,401 --> 01:10:21,641 stairs, looks like there's someone standing at the bottom 785 01:10:21,641 --> 01:10:27,541 of the stairs. And I look and there's nothing there but you 786 01:10:27,541 --> 01:10:30,661 can hear footsteps, legitimate footsteps walking up and down 787 01:10:30,661 --> 01:10:36,681 the hallway. I thought someone was in the house. I I I don't 788 01:10:36,681 --> 01:10:39,881 even know how to explain it. You can feel a vibe of like 789 01:10:39,881 --> 01:10:43,241 somebody else is in the house. 790 01:10:45,161 --> 01:10:49,181 And that bothered me. 791 01:10:54,661 --> 01:10:59,641 Like you you have that helpless feeling. 792 01:11:06,661 --> 01:11:09,241 When you're dealing with something that I like to term 793 01:11:09,241 --> 01:11:13,001 as a phantom draft or a phantom vibration it's a lot different 794 01:11:13,001 --> 01:11:17,881 you feel a sense that not only is your spider senses tingling 795 01:11:17,881 --> 01:11:20,521 but you know that something's there and you may catch 796 01:11:20,521 --> 01:11:23,601 something at the corner of your eye when it gets that strong 797 01:11:23,601 --> 01:11:27,081 the indications are a good percentage that you may be 798 01:11:27,081 --> 01:11:32,041 visited by an unknown entity 799 01:11:36,161 --> 01:11:40,661 I was in my house alone. Uh Isabella was with her mother 800 01:11:40,661 --> 01:11:46,461 for the weekend and I was laying in bed And it sounded 801 01:11:46,461 --> 01:11:49,101 like someone was actually punching the wall behind from 802 01:11:49,101 --> 01:11:55,081 the room behind me. My headboard actually shook and 803 01:11:55,081 --> 01:11:59,441 smacked up against the wall a few times. At first, I was 804 01:11:59,441 --> 01:12:05,121 scared like what's going on? Who's that? When is that? The 805 01:12:05,121 --> 01:12:08,241 force went from shaking the bed to pressure on Christian's 806 01:12:08,241 --> 01:12:13,641 chest, disabling him. I can't move. I can't yell. I can't 807 01:12:13,641 --> 01:12:18,601 talk. I can't do anything and it stands it feels like some 808 01:12:18,601 --> 01:12:22,281 sitting or standing on my chest. 809 01:12:24,661 --> 01:12:28,041 It almost looks like someone's kind of standing in the room, 810 01:12:28,041 --> 01:12:34,141 watching, I guess. And I wake up a little while later and 811 01:12:34,141 --> 01:12:38,861 just scared. Like you just what just happened to me. A lot of 812 01:12:38,861 --> 01:12:42,781 time the spirit will appear at night time and I've dealt with 813 01:12:42,781 --> 01:12:46,861 many cases of spirits going hovering over somebody's bed or 814 01:12:46,861 --> 01:12:50,141 beside them. A lot of times it is to give a message and that 815 01:12:50,141 --> 01:12:53,821 theme is always reoccurring. It's it's there for a reason. 816 01:12:53,821 --> 01:12:57,581 Um what that reason is is hard to detect but usually it's to 817 01:12:57,581 --> 01:13:01,741 give a message to tell you something maybe forewarn you of 818 01:13:01,741 --> 01:13:06,061 something or simply to say I know you can see me. What are 819 01:13:06,061 --> 01:13:10,421 you going to do about it? Hi, The events were escalating. 820 01:13:10,421 --> 01:13:15,381 Christian's daughter became scared to sleep in her bedroom. 821 01:13:15,381 --> 01:13:19,981 She said there's a man in my closet there's a man in my room 822 01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:24,861 and I asked like okay does he hurt you does he touch you does 823 01:13:24,861 --> 01:13:29,821 he talk to you what does he do and she all she would say is he 824 01:13:29,821 --> 01:13:35,661 talks or he stands there and it scares her because it's dark I 825 01:13:35,661 --> 01:13:39,741 I actually thought somebody was coming into my house but my 826 01:13:39,741 --> 01:13:42,621 doors are always locked you have to walk through you have 827 01:13:42,621 --> 01:13:46,361 to walk past my room to get into my to get to Isabel's room 828 01:13:46,361 --> 01:13:51,241 and it was winter and so I looked outside and there was no 829 01:13:51,241 --> 01:13:55,401 footprints leading up to her any of the windows and while 830 01:13:55,401 --> 01:13:59,801 the doors were still locked in the morning, I took the closet 831 01:13:59,801 --> 01:14:05,401 door off and actually I put a camera in her room to see what 832 01:14:05,401 --> 01:14:11,361 was going on and I caught nothing. And I thought I was 833 01:14:11,361 --> 01:14:18,081 sleepwalking so I would put baby powder in the door or in 834 01:14:18,081 --> 01:14:23,321 the hallway inside of my door not Nothing was ever there. So 835 01:14:23,321 --> 01:14:27,481 I thought, okay, something's going on. 836 01:14:43,161 --> 01:14:47,261 After returning from a tour of duty in Afghanistan, Christian 837 01:14:47,261 --> 01:14:52,621 Dandrea had been experiencing strange events in his home. 838 01:14:53,161 --> 01:14:58,541 Uh, my mom was, she was sitting on the couch. Isabella was at 839 01:14:58,541 --> 01:15:01,661 daycare, I believe. 840 01:15:03,161 --> 01:15:08,841 And a picture flew off the wall. So it was just okay. She 841 01:15:08,841 --> 01:15:13,481 called me right away. I came home. I looked. 842 01:15:26,161 --> 01:15:29,221 Well, she didn't touch anything. She left it there so 843 01:15:29,221 --> 01:15:35,301 I could see it and it was a picture of Isabella about three 844 01:15:35,301 --> 01:15:38,421 and a half feet from the wall and my mom said it just came 845 01:15:38,421 --> 01:15:41,541 off and gone. 846 01:15:42,161 --> 01:15:46,021 A spirit would push over a picture and move an object to 847 01:15:46,021 --> 01:15:49,781 get attention if it's trying to tell you something and it has 848 01:15:49,781 --> 01:15:54,341 enough energy to manifest itself in our physical realm to 849 01:15:54,341 --> 01:15:56,821 move an object because it does take a lot of energy to do that 850 01:15:56,821 --> 01:16:00,501 but most of the time it is to grab your attention of 851 01:16:00,501 --> 01:16:03,381 something it wants to tell you. Uh when I saw the picture 852 01:16:03,381 --> 01:16:09,221 frame, it was everything became real and I was nervous because 853 01:16:09,221 --> 01:16:12,181 I didn't know I didn't know what it was. It it's it's now 854 01:16:12,181 --> 01:16:16,061 taking objects and moving them and that's glass what happens 855 01:16:16,061 --> 01:16:19,341 if that happened because Isabella has a a chair 856 01:16:19,341 --> 01:16:21,661 underneath who that was and that's where she puts her shoes 857 01:16:21,661 --> 01:16:25,581 on so I was just like what happens if Isabella was there 858 01:16:25,581 --> 01:16:30,301 and this glass falls and hits her so that's when I got scared 859 01:16:30,301 --> 01:16:34,701 and that's when I contacted Katie because now it's moving 860 01:16:34,701 --> 01:16:39,941 things and throwing things like what's next Katie Turner is a 861 01:16:39,941 --> 01:16:42,821 paranormal investigator with the Petawa supernatural 862 01:16:42,821 --> 01:16:45,861 research Society. As soon as you be walked into the house 863 01:16:45,861 --> 01:16:51,621 alone I felt like I wasn't supposed to be there. Whoever 864 01:16:51,621 --> 01:16:56,981 it was did not want me there. I was a little skeptical. So I 865 01:16:56,981 --> 01:17:00,421 didn't tell her much about my past. Uh I told her basically 866 01:17:00,421 --> 01:17:05,301 what was going on that a picture just flew off the wall. 867 01:17:05,301 --> 01:17:09,701 Uh my daughter's sometimes afraid of everything. Uh I need 868 01:17:09,701 --> 01:17:17,101 help. I There is something clearly wrong in the situation. 869 01:17:17,101 --> 01:17:23,141 This one particular entity did not want us in the residence. 870 01:17:25,661 --> 01:17:29,121 I was getting pain in my arm and I was getting pain in my 871 01:17:29,121 --> 01:17:32,961 head. I was getting a very bad headache. 872 01:17:40,661 --> 01:17:48,041 I could feel, I could hear, I could see an entity. 873 01:17:49,161 --> 01:17:53,021 As Katie started to make contact with the spirit, she 874 01:17:53,021 --> 01:17:59,501 was guided downstairs to the basement. We have a PSB seven 875 01:17:59,501 --> 01:18:02,861 Spirit Box and what it does is it sweeps through radio 876 01:18:02,861 --> 01:18:07,101 frequencies at extremely fast rate and it is able to pick up. 877 01:18:07,101 --> 01:18:10,861 It's almost like a phone for the spiritual side. So they are 878 01:18:10,861 --> 01:18:13,741 able to to talk through it and we can hear them in real time. 879 01:18:13,741 --> 01:18:18,541 So we ask questions and it will answer. And as soon as I got 880 01:18:18,541 --> 01:18:24,301 into the basement I knew right away. That's where I picked up 881 01:18:24,301 --> 01:18:27,821 Christian's friend. 882 01:18:29,161 --> 01:18:36,061 She asked are you attached to the house or are you attached 883 01:18:36,061 --> 01:18:41,101 to the family and you hear family? What do you think of 884 01:18:41,101 --> 01:18:48,461 Christian? He's a good man. Uh are you worried about him? Yes. 885 01:18:50,161 --> 01:18:57,041 She said it was someone that's someone that you knew. I could 886 01:18:57,041 --> 01:19:01,601 feel an entity. Um he was very standoffish. He did not want us 887 01:19:01,601 --> 01:19:04,401 to be there. He was nervous. It wasn't as if he was evil. He 888 01:19:04,401 --> 01:19:09,081 just didn't want us there. In that area was some kit and 889 01:19:09,081 --> 01:19:14,261 equipment that Christian had. And I believe that there was an 890 01:19:14,261 --> 01:19:18,821 attachment there to it. Katie told him that the spirit was 891 01:19:18,821 --> 01:19:21,341 his friend and driver the day of the explosion in 892 01:19:21,341 --> 01:19:28,481 Afghanistan. So I was like okay maybe this maybe she's not 893 01:19:28,481 --> 01:19:32,761 crazy. Maybe she's real. You have people in this world that 894 01:19:32,761 --> 01:19:35,641 are very strong and they're dominant and they have a lot of 895 01:19:35,641 --> 01:19:38,841 will and determination. I believe that same will and 896 01:19:38,841 --> 01:19:43,241 determination can alter the frequencies in the supernatural 897 01:19:43,241 --> 01:19:46,521 realm to give more of a powerful energy as to somebody 898 01:19:46,521 --> 01:19:51,241 who is maybe a little bit more reserved while living. It was a 899 01:19:51,241 --> 01:19:59,061 lot to take in at once. Um little emotion all. But This 900 01:19:59,061 --> 01:20:02,021 felt good at the same time knowing that it's not some 901 01:20:02,021 --> 01:20:08,181 random man. It's somebody I know who I know was a gentle 902 01:20:08,181 --> 01:20:15,301 guy, a gentle man meant no harm to anybody just wanted 903 01:20:15,301 --> 01:20:23,601 attention and now he hasn't. He was a a a warrior out to this 904 01:20:23,601 --> 01:20:28,161 country so he may be gone but he's still here and it just 905 01:20:28,161 --> 01:20:33,541 proves that they're gone but not forgotten. Now that 906 01:20:33,541 --> 01:20:36,101 Christian understands the presence in his home, the 907 01:20:36,101 --> 01:20:39,381 violent episodes have stopped and he knows that his fallen 908 01:20:39,381 --> 01:20:43,301 comrade remains by his side. 909 01:20:47,161 --> 01:20:50,781 When a person passes away with outstanding business to take 910 01:20:50,781 --> 01:20:54,621 care of, that's often enough of a reason for them to stick 911 01:20:54,621 --> 01:20:57,341 around in the physical world until they can give their 912 01:20:57,341 --> 01:21:00,061 message. 913 01:21:11,661 --> 01:21:16,241 Story ten take one. 914 01:21:17,661 --> 01:21:22,001 My mother and I and my brother moved into the home when I was 915 01:21:22,001 --> 01:21:28,881 about five years old. That was probably 1957. My great 916 01:21:28,881 --> 01:21:32,641 grandfather built the home. He ordered it through Sears 917 01:21:32,641 --> 01:21:37,681 Cadillac. Put it together by number. Followed the 918 01:21:37,681 --> 01:21:41,841 directions. I grew up there, went to school there, have 919 01:21:41,841 --> 01:21:45,921 still friends and family in the neighborhood. It's a fabulous 920 01:21:45,921 --> 01:21:51,601 house but many skeletons live in that house. 921 01:21:54,161 --> 01:21:58,341 My mother and I were sitting in the front room and it was about 922 01:21:58,341 --> 01:22:05,621 10 o'clock at night on a school night. My daughter was in bed. 923 01:22:05,621 --> 01:22:10,061 She had been there since like eight o'clock. 924 01:22:15,161 --> 01:22:19,341 And all of a sudden, she comes flying down the steps with this 925 01:22:19,341 --> 01:22:24,941 scared look on her face saying the stereo came on and I just 926 01:22:24,941 --> 01:22:31,341 kind of, yeah, okay. It's just the radio. It's okay. Go to 927 01:22:31,341 --> 01:22:35,781 sleep, okay? Okay. And I says, something must have started it 928 01:22:35,781 --> 01:22:43,981 and was about 20 minutes later after I tucked her back in. 929 01:22:45,161 --> 01:22:51,901 Again, it just turned on by itself. She said, mom, I'm not 930 01:22:51,901 --> 01:22:55,021 sleeping in there because the stereo turned on again. I 931 01:22:55,021 --> 01:23:00,701 thought, well, maybe the plug was jostled. You know, I I just 932 01:23:00,701 --> 01:23:04,941 kind of wrote it off. I didn't think anymore about it. But the 933 01:23:04,941 --> 01:23:08,381 stereo switching on by itself turned out to be just the 934 01:23:08,381 --> 01:23:13,381 beginning. It was after that that I started hearing things 935 01:23:13,381 --> 01:23:18,821 in the kitchen. I worked afternoon so I would come in to 936 01:23:18,821 --> 01:23:24,821 relax, unwind, watch the news, and I would hear things jiggle 937 01:23:24,821 --> 01:23:31,141 like when somebody opens a refrigerator, the bottles. 938 01:23:32,661 --> 01:23:39,001 And covered doors, same thing. I hear them open. I have a 939 01:23:39,001 --> 01:23:44,281 magnetic strip that holds them shut and I'll hear a click like 940 01:23:44,281 --> 01:23:47,801 somebody opened it. 941 01:23:49,661 --> 01:23:56,521 I'd go in and refrigerator door was closed. Nothing's moved, 942 01:23:56,521 --> 01:24:01,081 nothing's changed, everything's the same. 943 01:24:02,661 --> 01:24:07,721 A day or two later, I was upstairs making sure everything 944 01:24:07,721 --> 01:24:13,321 was ready for the next day of school and I came down to the 945 01:24:13,321 --> 01:24:16,361 steps from upstairs and the kitchen covered doors, there 946 01:24:16,361 --> 01:24:21,641 was three of them open and I went to check to see if my son 947 01:24:21,641 --> 01:24:27,481 had been up in the kitchen and he wasn't and I shut the doors, 948 01:24:27,481 --> 01:24:33,881 went back and sat down. I was doing some homework myself. 949 01:24:38,661 --> 01:24:44,041 And the door was open and I didn't hear it open and I was 950 01:24:44,041 --> 01:24:46,601 sitting there 951 01:24:51,161 --> 01:24:55,981 and then when my son was in the basement, he made the basement 952 01:24:55,981 --> 01:25:01,181 his bedroom and I had gone to the basement steps to say good 953 01:25:01,181 --> 01:25:03,341 night 954 01:25:27,161 --> 01:25:31,021 Judy Spiehar had lived in her family home for decades when 955 01:25:31,021 --> 01:25:35,981 she started noticing strange events. The incident started to 956 01:25:35,981 --> 01:25:41,721 occur more frequently and became more frightening. And I 957 01:25:41,721 --> 01:25:45,801 turned around and there was this dark image right behind 958 01:25:45,801 --> 01:25:55,581 me. It was not black but almost a dark gray and I I covered my 959 01:25:55,581 --> 01:25:57,821 face 960 01:26:00,161 --> 01:26:04,821 I would tell people my stories and they'd all look at me like 961 01:26:04,821 --> 01:26:10,181 I was crazy. Oh, it's just a imagination thing. You know, 962 01:26:10,181 --> 01:26:13,221 nothing like that happens. There's no such thing as 963 01:26:13,221 --> 01:26:17,701 spirits or ghosts. Judy struggled to understand the 964 01:26:17,701 --> 01:26:22,501 weird incidents. I'm sleeping one night and then I I could 965 01:26:22,501 --> 01:26:27,701 hear something but I I wasn't sure what it was. 966 01:26:29,661 --> 01:26:34,401 And I could feel like somebody walking with their hands and 967 01:26:34,401 --> 01:26:42,881 knees up the side of me. I could feel the indent in the 968 01:26:42,881 --> 01:26:47,761 mattress. It was scary. At first, I thought it was the dog 969 01:26:47,761 --> 01:26:52,801 moving and I noticed the dog was in the same spot and then I 970 01:26:52,801 --> 01:26:56,801 was thinking it was the cat because I have two cats and 971 01:26:56,801 --> 01:27:01,661 there was nothing there. I have a street light that that come 972 01:27:01,661 --> 01:27:05,741 in through the window and there was nothing there but I could 973 01:27:05,741 --> 01:27:09,981 feel the indent. The bizarre events could no longer be 974 01:27:09,981 --> 01:27:15,661 ignored. Judy needed help. My sister-in-law introduced me to 975 01:27:15,661 --> 01:27:19,181 Ken so that we could find out if there really was something 976 01:27:19,181 --> 01:27:23,981 or if it was my imagination. 977 01:27:25,161 --> 01:27:31,421 When we first got to Judy's house, the overwhelming feeling 978 01:27:31,421 --> 01:27:36,061 in the house was that the presences that were there, it 979 01:27:36,061 --> 01:27:41,341 did feel like family. During the investigation, we kept 980 01:27:41,341 --> 01:27:49,201 getting any, you know, a series of EVPs called Beth. Beth. 981 01:27:49,201 --> 01:27:58,721 Beth. Very emphatic. So, it's definitely a man's voice. When 982 01:27:58,721 --> 01:28:02,401 Ken told me, I was flabbergasted. I didn't I 983 01:28:02,401 --> 01:28:05,121 didn't know what to say because I hadn't thought of Beth in 984 01:28:05,121 --> 01:28:10,161 years. Beth was married to my brother Mike who had passed 985 01:28:10,161 --> 01:28:17,481 away. Mike had died in the late 1970s in a farming accident. I 986 01:28:17,481 --> 01:28:22,281 believe that they may tap around the person that they 987 01:28:22,281 --> 01:28:24,761 want and go to somebody else because maybe they can 988 01:28:24,761 --> 01:28:31,221 communicate better with them. Maybe that can be more of a I'd 989 01:28:31,221 --> 01:28:34,421 like to use the term a validation of who it is and 990 01:28:34,421 --> 01:28:37,061 then that person could take the message over and it's easy to 991 01:28:37,061 --> 01:28:41,381 hear that way sometimes. I went on Facebook to see if I could 992 01:28:41,381 --> 01:28:49,361 find her and luckily I I did. Mike and I were married in 993 01:28:49,361 --> 01:28:54,161 December of sixty-eight. We had four days to plan our wedding. 994 01:28:54,161 --> 01:28:57,601 We had 10 days together honeymooning before he left for 995 01:28:57,601 --> 01:29:07,441 Vietnam. So January of 70 was when he returned. And we filed 996 01:29:07,441 --> 01:29:11,121 for divorce because when he returned he was so so different 997 01:29:11,121 --> 01:29:16,321 than he was when he left. A lot of years I carried a lot of 998 01:29:16,321 --> 01:29:24,541 guilt because I didn't stick him like our vow said. Beth was 999 01:29:24,541 --> 01:29:29,821 not the only one with unsettled emotions. Well, at this point, 1000 01:29:29,821 --> 01:29:35,161 it's pretty clear that somebody wants to get a message to Beth. 1001 01:29:35,161 --> 01:29:40,521 So I went to the investigation and it was after midnight. In 1002 01:29:40,521 --> 01:29:46,361 my mind, I was more concerned about what does this spirit 1003 01:29:46,361 --> 01:29:52,041 want with her in the first place. 1004 01:29:55,161 --> 01:30:00,221 And I kept feeling cold breezes on the back of my neck or the 1005 01:30:00,221 --> 01:30:04,141 hair would stand up on my arm. 1006 01:30:13,161 --> 01:30:18,061 What I sensed was that there was a lot more energy in the 1007 01:30:18,061 --> 01:30:20,621 room. 1008 01:30:23,661 --> 01:30:30,781 Beth heard something that blew her mind. We could hear Mike 1009 01:30:30,781 --> 01:30:38,461 saying, Beth, I love you. Oh, I still can see. Goosebumps. 1010 01:30:38,461 --> 01:30:43,581 Beth's dead ex-husband, Mike, had made contact. I believe 1011 01:30:43,581 --> 01:30:47,621 entities can come back if they have unfinished business, 1012 01:30:47,621 --> 01:30:50,661 especially if they die tragically, they can come back 1013 01:30:50,661 --> 01:30:53,781 to give a message. 1014 01:30:54,661 --> 01:31:01,881 My whole body got that sense of being shocked. I mean, from my 1015 01:31:01,881 --> 01:31:06,281 fingers to my toes and all the hair in my body stood up and it 1016 01:31:06,281 --> 01:31:12,281 was like a jolt of electricity shooting right through me. 1017 01:31:13,161 --> 01:31:17,261 Hearing from him and hearing him say that that he still 1018 01:31:17,261 --> 01:31:25,161 loved me and it made me realize that he wasn't angry at me or 1019 01:31:25,161 --> 01:31:28,801 that I could let go of the guilt I've been carrying around 1020 01:31:28,801 --> 01:31:34,521 and I just gave me so much more peace. 1021 01:31:36,661 --> 01:31:41,881 So that was important for me to know that he wasn't like mad at 1022 01:31:41,881 --> 01:31:46,841 me or it's almost I felt like he was still hanging around 1023 01:31:46,841 --> 01:31:49,641 because he needed to get that message to me because he could 1024 01:31:49,641 --> 01:31:52,441 see all these years I was carrying around all this guilt 1025 01:31:52,441 --> 01:31:56,361 for not staying with him. 1026 01:31:58,661 --> 01:32:03,961 Mike wanted her there for a reason. He wanted to make a 1027 01:32:03,961 --> 01:32:09,081 closure, I believe, of what was going on with him and her. He 1028 01:32:09,081 --> 01:32:13,161 wanted her to know that he was okay and that what they had 1029 01:32:13,161 --> 01:32:16,601 done was the right thing. And how do you feel about the house 1030 01:32:16,601 --> 01:32:22,901 now? I always feel comfortable in the home. I love it and I 1031 01:32:22,901 --> 01:32:28,181 just wish I could figure out who's crawling up the bat.92050

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