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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,801 There was just nothing to explain it, nothing. It was 2 00:00:02,801 --> 00:00:06,641 just very, very scary. You are about to see real people. This 3 00:00:06,641 --> 00:00:10,161 is not normal. Reliving horrifying paranormal 4 00:00:10,161 --> 00:00:14,161 encounters for the first time. And it would keep coming 5 00:00:14,161 --> 00:00:18,161 creeping up my leg. When the unsuspecting send an invitation 6 00:00:18,161 --> 00:00:22,641 to evil. Never in a million years that I think that it 7 00:00:22,641 --> 00:00:27,401 would happen in my home. I buried this for nearly 30 8 00:00:27,401 --> 00:00:33,401 years. Be prepared to be afraid. 9 00:00:45,861 --> 00:00:49,361 Interview? 10 00:00:59,661 --> 00:01:03,681 After years of dating, Sika Groves and her boyfriend Dave 11 00:01:03,681 --> 00:01:06,161 were starting their life together in Dave's parents 12 00:01:06,161 --> 00:01:09,041 basement. 13 00:01:13,101 --> 00:01:17,441 We went to visit the antique store to pick up something 14 00:01:17,441 --> 00:01:20,921 special, something that we thought would be our own. 15 00:01:20,921 --> 00:01:23,641 Everybody else had given us things. So, we really wanted to 16 00:01:23,641 --> 00:01:26,601 get something that we thought was unique and sort of said who 17 00:01:26,601 --> 00:01:29,241 we were. 18 00:01:31,661 --> 00:01:37,041 When I first saw the wash stand it just stood out because it 19 00:01:37,041 --> 00:01:41,601 was a classic probably about 1870s Victorian washstand. But 20 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:45,121 it was just really unique and really different and we fell in 21 00:01:45,121 --> 00:01:50,041 love with it. Little did Sika know that the wash stand had 22 00:01:50,041 --> 00:01:52,601 brought something else along with it into her home. 23 00:01:52,601 --> 00:01:58,421 Something a lot less welcome. It wasn't so much there was a 24 00:01:58,421 --> 00:02:01,221 change in the atmosphere of the home but it was just strange 25 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:05,061 things started happening. 26 00:02:18,161 --> 00:02:22,341 At first it was just lights going off and on and or 27 00:02:22,341 --> 00:02:26,741 cupboard doors opening. Those kinds of things that you sort 28 00:02:26,741 --> 00:02:29,701 of think maybe somebody left the light on or left the 29 00:02:29,701 --> 00:02:32,901 cupboard door open. 30 00:02:33,661 --> 00:02:36,721 But then you start to wonder because you're the only one 31 00:02:36,721 --> 00:02:39,361 home. 32 00:02:47,661 --> 00:02:51,121 But I didn't say anything at the time because I thought 33 00:02:51,121 --> 00:02:54,961 maybe they're going to think I was crazy. 34 00:03:01,161 --> 00:03:04,861 I just remember going into the kitchen and there was this huge 35 00:03:04,861 --> 00:03:11,641 ripping sound. And it just sounded like a huge piece of 36 00:03:11,641 --> 00:03:18,221 fabric being torn but really violently torn. And there was 37 00:03:18,221 --> 00:03:22,061 nobody home. I was the only one there. 38 00:03:23,661 --> 00:03:27,681 I was petrified and I was just like, oh my god, oh my god. I 39 00:03:27,681 --> 00:03:30,001 looked in the bathroom and I looked in the bedrooms and 40 00:03:30,001 --> 00:03:32,321 there was just nothing to explain it, nothing. It was 41 00:03:32,321 --> 00:03:36,721 just very, very scary for me at the time. 42 00:03:44,161 --> 00:03:48,181 I think that it was probably about two months or so after 43 00:03:48,181 --> 00:03:51,621 we'd purchased the wash stand that we thought that perhaps 44 00:03:51,621 --> 00:03:58,181 that was sort of the gateway for the spirit to come in. 45 00:04:02,661 --> 00:04:07,001 Why we didn't get rid of it? Because I didn't believe it. 46 00:04:07,001 --> 00:04:10,841 You know, something could manifest itself in a piece of 47 00:04:10,841 --> 00:04:13,401 furniture. 48 00:04:19,161 --> 00:04:23,421 It wasn't long before the strange activity escalated and 49 00:04:23,421 --> 00:04:30,621 more people experienced it. It happened. We were sitting at 50 00:04:30,621 --> 00:04:33,981 the table in the kitchen and the coffee maker just shifted 51 00:04:33,981 --> 00:04:37,261 out into the middle of the table and then back against the 52 00:04:37,261 --> 00:04:39,741 wall. 53 00:04:46,661 --> 00:04:50,201 And then it did it a second time and we all were you know 54 00:04:50,201 --> 00:04:52,761 just sort of jumped up and was like oh my god what what's 55 00:04:52,761 --> 00:04:56,681 going on? Like what's happening to us? 56 00:05:10,661 --> 00:05:14,681 Several months after moving into their new home, Sika and 57 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:20,421 Dave decided to start a family. But the joy of their baby son's 58 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:24,021 arrival was short lived. An evil atmosphere seemed to 59 00:05:24,021 --> 00:05:28,021 permeate the home and Sika and Dave began turning on each 60 00:05:28,021 --> 00:05:33,221 other. **** you. I was exhausted from the whole thing 61 00:05:33,221 --> 00:05:37,061 and exhausted from just you know had a newborn baby, new 62 00:05:37,061 --> 00:05:40,581 child, and you know a marriage that was going down the toilet. 63 00:05:40,581 --> 00:05:46,661 So I said to my my my husband then. Um I can't deal with 64 00:05:46,661 --> 00:05:52,421 this. I am done. We are over. 65 00:05:53,661 --> 00:05:57,601 The marriage over, Sika moved into her own place with her 66 00:05:57,601 --> 00:06:01,921 young son but she took the wash stand and her troubles with her 67 00:06:01,921 --> 00:06:04,401 too. 68 00:06:07,161 --> 00:06:11,501 I took that wash stand everywhere with me. Still not 69 00:06:11,501 --> 00:06:18,781 really believing that it was the source of the problems. 70 00:06:28,161 --> 00:06:32,501 There's a conception that spirits can only attach to a 71 00:06:32,501 --> 00:06:36,421 location where in fact they can attach themselves to a person, 72 00:06:36,421 --> 00:06:40,661 a place, or a thing but to them, it's something important, 73 00:06:40,661 --> 00:06:43,621 something that connects them back to the world of the 74 00:06:43,621 --> 00:06:47,381 living. If it's an angry spirit, it can just start 75 00:06:47,381 --> 00:06:51,461 wreaking havoc throughout the house. 76 00:06:52,161 --> 00:06:57,461 This house was when a lot of activity started. A lot more 77 00:06:57,461 --> 00:07:04,981 than than what we had had previously. Sika's son now aged 78 00:07:04,981 --> 00:07:10,261 five started to play with an imaginary friend. By this time 79 00:07:10,261 --> 00:07:13,541 my son had given him a name. I'd go upstairs and he'd be in 80 00:07:13,541 --> 00:07:16,101 his room talking and I'd be like who you talking to? And he 81 00:07:16,101 --> 00:07:20,501 go oh it's Lenny mom. Like it was nothing. 82 00:07:27,161 --> 00:07:31,181 And then he go don't you see him? He's wearing a white shirt 83 00:07:31,181 --> 00:07:36,781 and black pants. And I'm like no I don't see him. 84 00:07:56,661 --> 00:08:01,001 So what I did say to him is I'm like don't talk to him. Don't 85 00:08:01,001 --> 00:08:04,041 talk to him. Just you know if he comes and bothers you you 86 00:08:04,041 --> 00:08:06,921 come and tell me. 87 00:08:17,161 --> 00:08:22,221 I had bought my son this teddy bear that could tell stories 88 00:08:22,221 --> 00:08:25,101 and you put a little cassette tape in and it would tell 89 00:08:25,101 --> 00:08:27,821 stories. 90 00:08:29,661 --> 00:08:34,441 And there was a couple of times where the bear just started 91 00:08:34,441 --> 00:08:42,081 going off like talking and the tape would start to play. 92 00:09:00,921 --> 00:09:08,741 Okay. It was like the tape would go it'll go slow and then 93 00:09:08,741 --> 00:09:11,781 it would speed up. 94 00:09:18,661 --> 00:09:21,961 And I thought maybe it's been worn as breaking. So I just 95 00:09:21,961 --> 00:09:25,561 took the batteries out of the bear. 96 00:09:36,161 --> 00:09:40,901 And it it came on. 97 00:09:43,661 --> 00:09:50,881 Even without the batteries in it, the the bear came on. 98 00:10:02,161 --> 00:10:05,861 I didn't want anything interfering with my child, 99 00:10:05,861 --> 00:10:09,141 right? I mean, I'm a mom. 100 00:10:13,661 --> 00:10:17,441 And once again the evil influence of the wash stand 101 00:10:17,441 --> 00:10:22,401 started to cause trouble in Sika's personal life. It 102 00:10:22,401 --> 00:10:26,241 started to escalate when I started to date again. Um 103 00:10:26,241 --> 00:10:32,561 anytime a new guy would come over to the house things would 104 00:10:32,561 --> 00:10:35,441 start to happen. 105 00:10:54,661 --> 00:10:58,841 Sika Groves had tried to escape the paranormal activity that 106 00:10:58,841 --> 00:11:02,441 plagued her by moving house. But she had unwittingly brought 107 00:11:02,441 --> 00:11:06,601 along the very thing that was causing it. Her beloved wash 108 00:11:06,601 --> 00:11:16,161 stand. Anytime a new guy would come over to the house things 109 00:11:16,161 --> 00:11:19,361 would start to happen. 110 00:11:28,161 --> 00:11:32,181 They would say something's touching me, something's poking 111 00:11:32,181 --> 00:11:34,661 me. 112 00:11:37,161 --> 00:11:41,101 There was a point where I felt comfortable with the guy that I 113 00:11:41,101 --> 00:11:45,021 was seeing staying over. 114 00:11:48,661 --> 00:11:54,441 The first night that he stayed over, it was maybe four o'clock 115 00:11:54,441 --> 00:11:58,601 in the morning and I could hear a little toy cellphone that my 116 00:11:58,601 --> 00:12:02,441 son had going off in the hallway. 117 00:12:05,661 --> 00:12:12,161 And so I got up. I got up out of bed to see if my son was up. 118 00:12:20,441 --> 00:12:23,941 I 119 00:12:24,941 --> 00:12:28,441 I 120 00:12:33,161 --> 00:12:37,021 and there wasn't anything there. The noise stopped as 121 00:12:37,021 --> 00:12:39,661 soon as I opened the bedroom door and my son was fast asleep 122 00:12:39,661 --> 00:12:42,541 in his bed. 123 00:12:52,661 --> 00:12:56,841 I headed back to the bedroom and when I walked into the 124 00:12:56,841 --> 00:13:01,241 room, it was dark but I could see that my boyfriend was just 125 00:13:01,241 --> 00:13:05,001 lying stiff in the bed. 126 00:13:06,661 --> 00:13:12,441 And staring at the ceiling and he was shaking and I was like, 127 00:13:12,441 --> 00:13:16,841 what's wrong with you? What's the matter? 128 00:13:23,661 --> 00:13:26,401 And he's like it's sitting on the bed. It's sitting on the 129 00:13:26,401 --> 00:13:28,321 bed. It's sitting on the bed. It's sitting on the bed. And he 130 00:13:28,321 --> 00:13:31,441 was petrified. 131 00:13:36,661 --> 00:13:41,481 He was so scared he got up and he left. 132 00:13:45,661 --> 00:13:50,001 Honey, where are you going? He just, you know, up and left. It 133 00:13:50,001 --> 00:13:54,321 was 4: 30 in the morning and he wouldn't stay. 134 00:13:57,661 --> 00:14:02,721 Oh I was mad. I mean I was angry just because of what had 135 00:14:02,721 --> 00:14:05,201 happened right? And I was really mad. And I was like why 136 00:14:05,201 --> 00:14:07,841 are you doing this? Stop doing this. You know you're ruining 137 00:14:07,841 --> 00:14:11,201 my my life. I think that was really the crux of when I felt 138 00:14:11,201 --> 00:14:15,121 like I have to do something. 139 00:14:16,161 --> 00:14:20,421 My boyfriend's mother had suggested that we bring 140 00:14:20,421 --> 00:14:25,061 somebody in that could do feng shui. You know she sort of said 141 00:14:25,061 --> 00:14:28,661 maybe you have bad energy flow in the house and there's things 142 00:14:28,661 --> 00:14:32,421 that they can help you realign and realign the energy and if 143 00:14:32,421 --> 00:14:35,301 there's bad things there they can you know make them leave. 144 00:14:35,301 --> 00:14:39,621 And I'm thinking okay it sounds crazy enough that it just might 145 00:14:39,621 --> 00:14:46,421 work. This this. The feng shui expert immediately zeroed in on 146 00:14:46,421 --> 00:14:48,821 the wash stand as the object that had brought the spirit 147 00:14:48,821 --> 00:14:56,501 into Sika's life. And And she says you're a magnet. You 148 00:14:56,501 --> 00:15:00,821 attract them. And I was like what? What are you talking 149 00:15:00,821 --> 00:15:04,181 about? I didn't attract any. She says that's why it's here. 150 00:15:04,181 --> 00:15:07,061 It might have come with the furniture but it's here because 151 00:15:07,061 --> 00:15:11,721 of you. The best way to remove a spirit from a house when 152 00:15:11,721 --> 00:15:14,681 you're dealing with an object maybe an antique that you 153 00:15:14,681 --> 00:15:17,081 you've had purchased somewhere it would be a good idea to get 154 00:15:17,081 --> 00:15:19,401 rid of that antique not to give to someone else that you don't 155 00:15:19,401 --> 00:15:22,041 like but to get rid of the object altogether and that way 156 00:15:22,041 --> 00:15:23,881 you're getting rid of the attachment to that object 157 00:15:23,881 --> 00:15:25,961 whether you bury it some people want to burn it but just get 158 00:15:25,961 --> 00:15:30,041 rid of it all together it's just a better way to do it 159 00:15:47,161 --> 00:15:49,661 What are we going to read today? What are you going to 160 00:15:49,661 --> 00:15:54,221 read to me? Only then did things get back to normal. It 161 00:15:54,221 --> 00:16:02,381 just says focus. My son wasn't seeing him anymore and things 162 00:16:02,381 --> 00:16:06,461 just weren't happening. For me, mentally, it made a big 163 00:16:06,461 --> 00:16:09,101 difference. 164 00:16:14,661 --> 00:16:19,641 Not every spirit can be gotten rid of so easily. In some 165 00:16:19,641 --> 00:16:23,401 cases, a paranormal entity can spread like an infection from 166 00:16:23,401 --> 00:16:30,601 one person to another causing terror and chaos in its path. 167 00:16:46,661 --> 00:16:51,241 I've always had an interest in the paranormal but you know, I 168 00:16:51,241 --> 00:16:56,201 never ever thought that I'd ever experience one. 169 00:16:58,161 --> 00:17:01,941 It all started when Susan Hayes was having coffee at her 170 00:17:01,941 --> 00:17:08,261 friend's house. There she experienced something chilling. 171 00:17:11,661 --> 00:17:17,201 I could sense this entity and it would start out like a 172 00:17:17,201 --> 00:17:20,561 coldness in the bottom of my foot like Ashley like it was 173 00:17:20,561 --> 00:17:24,481 entering my body and it would keep coming creeping up my leg 174 00:17:24,481 --> 00:17:27,281 and I would just close my eyes and recite the Lord's prayer 175 00:17:27,281 --> 00:17:30,481 over and over again. Our father kept redoing it and it would 176 00:17:30,481 --> 00:17:36,141 just kind of go away again. Susan's friend told her she too 177 00:17:36,141 --> 00:17:40,061 had begun to experience strange things. And they all started 178 00:17:40,061 --> 00:17:47,481 when she let a mutual friend rent a room in her house. There 179 00:17:47,481 --> 00:17:51,241 was a girl that they let stay for a few weeks. She was in 180 00:17:51,241 --> 00:17:56,681 between residences and she had went in there one night and 181 00:17:56,681 --> 00:17:59,881 heard her chanting. 182 00:18:22,161 --> 00:18:26,501 Susan Hayes had experienced strange sensations while at her 183 00:18:26,501 --> 00:18:30,661 friend's house. But that wasn't the only weird thing going on 184 00:18:30,661 --> 00:18:37,181 there. There was a girl that they let stay for a few weeks. 185 00:18:37,181 --> 00:18:42,701 She was in between residences and she had went in there one 186 00:18:42,701 --> 00:18:49,321 night and heard her chanting. She peeked in the room and she 187 00:18:49,321 --> 00:18:54,041 was doing some type of a ritual on the floor. 188 00:18:59,981 --> 00:19:03,481 I 189 00:19:05,161 --> 00:19:08,461 long time 190 00:19:17,661 --> 00:19:20,881 Allah 191 00:19:32,161 --> 00:19:38,661 Then she just suddenly moved out about a few weeks later. 192 00:19:38,661 --> 00:19:42,041 When you're dealing with ceremony and rituals depending 193 00:19:42,041 --> 00:19:45,161 on the intention of that ceremony if your intention is 194 00:19:45,161 --> 00:19:48,281 to be ill willed or to just open the door to anything you 195 00:19:48,281 --> 00:19:51,721 can invite anything into the house even evil spirits and 196 00:19:51,721 --> 00:19:54,201 most likely the people you don't want to come into that 197 00:19:54,201 --> 00:19:56,681 room. 198 00:19:58,201 --> 00:20:02,101 Susan and her friend decided to cleanse the house of whatever 199 00:20:02,101 --> 00:20:05,701 entity the border had ushered in. Said the spirit of the Lord 200 00:20:05,701 --> 00:20:09,621 spoke to me and his words was in my tongue. We just kind of 201 00:20:09,621 --> 00:20:13,941 went online to try to find out what we should do. So we just 202 00:20:13,941 --> 00:20:17,541 kind of tried to handle it ourselves initially but you 203 00:20:17,541 --> 00:20:23,541 know it was honestly a big mistake. So as soon as we 204 00:20:23,541 --> 00:20:26,821 started reading the Bible and smudging, the little wooden 205 00:20:26,821 --> 00:20:31,221 case just slid right across the front of us. 206 00:20:36,661 --> 00:20:41,401 Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy 207 00:20:41,401 --> 00:20:45,401 kingdom come. Needless to say, we kind of screamed and and ran 208 00:20:45,401 --> 00:20:49,641 out the door. It terrified us quite a bit. 209 00:20:54,161 --> 00:20:58,421 I knew that she had summoned something into their home and 210 00:20:58,421 --> 00:21:03,221 they had only tried to help her so I was very upset. 211 00:21:06,661 --> 00:21:12,441 About two weeks after my friend's family just decided to 212 00:21:12,441 --> 00:21:15,801 move. They just had had enough and they decided not to try to 213 00:21:15,801 --> 00:21:18,281 fight it. 214 00:21:24,661 --> 00:21:30,041 I was just in my room just relaxing watching TV and all of 215 00:21:30,041 --> 00:21:33,801 a sudden I felt that cold horrible evil sensation again 216 00:21:33,801 --> 00:21:37,881 that I felt over at my friend's house 217 00:21:42,161 --> 00:21:47,301 who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. 218 00:21:48,661 --> 00:21:53,561 And I immediately knew it was there. I just knew and I was 219 00:21:53,561 --> 00:21:56,361 terrified. 220 00:21:59,161 --> 00:22:02,941 It seemed that the entity from her friend's house had now 221 00:22:02,941 --> 00:22:06,701 attached itself to Susan. 222 00:22:10,161 --> 00:22:15,781 Soon the paranormal activity got worse. 223 00:22:17,661 --> 00:22:22,161 There would be scratching in the walls. You could hear 224 00:22:22,161 --> 00:22:25,601 another time I could hear crashing up in the attic. So it 225 00:22:25,601 --> 00:22:28,481 would just it would just do anything it could just to 226 00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:32,241 disturb you in the middle of the night. 227 00:22:48,581 --> 00:22:54,561 It was antagonizing me so badly that I honestly thought I was 228 00:22:54,561 --> 00:22:57,841 going to lose my mind. I had just bought in the house so I 229 00:22:57,841 --> 00:23:02,001 was not going to move out. So I just you know I was determined 230 00:23:02,001 --> 00:23:05,281 to get rid of this thing. 231 00:23:09,161 --> 00:23:15,681 Susan knew she had to call in an expert. She contacted 232 00:23:15,681 --> 00:23:20,161 paranormal investigator Michelle De Roche for help. 233 00:23:20,161 --> 00:23:24,881 When Sue sent me an email, I immediately felt drawn to her. 234 00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:30,321 Right off the bat, I could feel the desperation in it. 235 00:23:31,161 --> 00:23:34,781 When I reached out to Michelle, you know, I just gave her a 236 00:23:34,781 --> 00:23:38,941 vague message. I think we have a ghost problem. Hi. Hi. 237 00:23:38,941 --> 00:23:42,061 Michelle brought along a friend who was a psychic to help with 238 00:23:42,061 --> 00:23:47,981 the investigation. This is Tyler. Tyler, he he he walked 239 00:23:47,981 --> 00:23:51,181 into my house and my cat went right to him which was unusual 240 00:23:51,181 --> 00:23:56,381 in itself because my cat always hid from company. 241 00:23:57,661 --> 00:24:02,401 The cat starts meowing at him like meow meow and he starts 242 00:24:02,401 --> 00:24:05,681 answering it. He's like oh thank you. Thank you and I'm 243 00:24:05,681 --> 00:24:08,961 like looking like what? 244 00:24:11,661 --> 00:24:17,621 He says, oh, I can communicate with animals. And then the cat 245 00:24:17,621 --> 00:24:22,021 kept beckoning Tyler to follow. 246 00:24:24,661 --> 00:24:29,161 And you know you're just like what? And the cat showed him 247 00:24:29,161 --> 00:24:32,601 where the same woman who had done the ritual at the other 248 00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:37,781 house had hidden things in my home as well. While visiting 249 00:24:37,781 --> 00:24:42,021 Susan's house, her friend's lodger had put an evil hex on 250 00:24:42,021 --> 00:24:45,141 Susan too. 251 00:24:51,161 --> 00:24:55,901 Found a small pieces of mirror throughout the house which I 252 00:24:55,901 --> 00:24:59,661 guess I found afterwards can act as a portal or a you know 253 00:24:59,661 --> 00:25:03,741 an entry place into to my home. 254 00:25:08,661 --> 00:25:12,761 We had found jars of urine hidden up in the rafters as 255 00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:15,161 well. 256 00:25:16,161 --> 00:25:23,061 From what I gather that was a way that she could kind of hold 257 00:25:23,061 --> 00:25:27,701 claim to my home. A lot of that has to do more with the occult 258 00:25:27,701 --> 00:25:31,381 you know working around the black arts. They will leave 259 00:25:31,381 --> 00:25:33,621 things like that on the premises and they will take 260 00:25:33,621 --> 00:25:39,781 something out of the home. It's like an exchange almost. 261 00:25:39,781 --> 00:25:43,521 Terrified of what malevolent entities the hidden objects 262 00:25:43,521 --> 00:25:46,641 were bringing into her home Susan decided to get it 263 00:25:46,641 --> 00:25:53,041 cleansed. He basically did a smudging ceremony you know 264 00:25:53,041 --> 00:25:57,661 where he would come in with a just a big sage smudge stick. 265 00:25:57,661 --> 00:26:00,941 Michelle and the psychic were unable to completely remove the 266 00:26:00,941 --> 00:26:04,381 spirit in one session. So they gave Susan instructions on how 267 00:26:04,381 --> 00:26:07,821 to keep it at bay until they could return to remove it for 268 00:26:07,821 --> 00:26:14,401 good. Michelle instructed me to just to be very diligent, 269 00:26:14,401 --> 00:26:19,121 smudge, try to smudge daily. She gave me some exercises to 270 00:26:19,121 --> 00:26:23,681 do like salt baths, stuff like that so that it like it 271 00:26:23,681 --> 00:26:27,121 personally couldn't infest me because it certainly did try 272 00:26:27,121 --> 00:26:32,481 all the time. And we taught her basically how to kind of keep 273 00:26:32,481 --> 00:26:38,561 her environment calm. Michelle had calmed the activity in 274 00:26:38,561 --> 00:26:42,321 Susan's house but in doing so, she had provoked a spirit that 275 00:26:42,321 --> 00:26:47,921 was not yet finished with her or her family. 276 00:27:08,361 --> 00:27:12,181 Paranormal investigator Michelle De Roche had taken the 277 00:27:12,181 --> 00:27:17,661 first steps toward riding Susan Hayes home of sinister forces. 278 00:27:17,661 --> 00:27:22,141 But before she could return to finish the job she had no idea 279 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:28,221 the evil would infect a new victim much closer to home. 280 00:27:31,661 --> 00:27:34,801 I was 14 years old when she started doing the 281 00:27:34,801 --> 00:27:38,521 investigations. I didn't believe in much of anything 282 00:27:38,521 --> 00:27:44,601 until things started happening to me. I could hear her calling 283 00:27:44,601 --> 00:27:49,801 my name. I went over to her room and I said, what's wrong? 284 00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:52,521 She goes, I can't see. I'm like, what do you mean you 285 00:27:52,521 --> 00:27:57,641 can't see? She goes, I can't see. Mom, come here. I can't 286 00:27:57,641 --> 00:28:04,141 see. What's going on? I can't see mom. Nothing? I can't see 287 00:28:04,141 --> 00:28:10,861 anything. Like I couldn't make out shapes. I couldn't make out 288 00:28:10,861 --> 00:28:14,221 anything other than the fact that I could tell you know the 289 00:28:14,221 --> 00:28:16,541 sun was out. I could tell that it was a little bit lighter of 290 00:28:16,541 --> 00:28:21,421 a darkness than you know complete pitch black. 291 00:28:26,161 --> 00:28:30,821 It really isn't uncommon for a medium who has cast out an evil 292 00:28:30,821 --> 00:28:35,541 spirit to have that evil spirit come back in some way or form 293 00:28:35,541 --> 00:28:40,021 and try to get revenge because that spirit will not be happy 294 00:28:40,021 --> 00:28:44,661 that it has been forced to move on. 295 00:28:45,861 --> 00:28:54,881 I brought her in and he's like her eyes look healthy. I I 296 00:28:54,881 --> 00:28:58,241 don't even know what what to say but let's get all the tests 297 00:28:58,241 --> 00:29:02,081 done and let's see what's going on. They took pictures of the 298 00:29:02,081 --> 00:29:06,481 inside of her eyes. Everything was healthy. 299 00:29:11,661 --> 00:29:17,401 We even had her see a psychologist. So we explored 300 00:29:17,401 --> 00:29:24,561 everything. Mental, physical, nobody had any answers for us. 301 00:29:24,561 --> 00:29:27,861 I 302 00:29:30,661 --> 00:29:33,481 I was really worried and I didn't think it would come 303 00:29:33,481 --> 00:29:36,121 back. I couldn't go to school. I missed my whole first 304 00:29:36,121 --> 00:29:38,841 semester. 305 00:29:43,161 --> 00:29:47,261 It's your job to protect them. It's your job to make sure bad 306 00:29:47,261 --> 00:29:51,181 things don't happen to them. It was terrible. Just terrible 307 00:29:51,181 --> 00:29:54,541 time in that respect. 308 00:29:56,661 --> 00:30:01,001 Unable to find a medical cause, Michelle's doctor had another 309 00:30:01,001 --> 00:30:06,441 theory. He said, I'm just going to throw this out there. 310 00:30:06,441 --> 00:30:10,361 Could you maybe have worked on something recently that might 311 00:30:10,361 --> 00:30:13,481 have caused this? 312 00:30:18,161 --> 00:30:23,621 Never occurred to me. It never occurred to me. I have been 313 00:30:23,621 --> 00:30:26,821 working professionally with the paranormal probably for the 314 00:30:26,821 --> 00:30:32,021 last I would say 12 years. Never in a million years that I 315 00:30:32,021 --> 00:30:38,201 think that it would happen in my home. Michelle quickly 316 00:30:38,201 --> 00:30:41,641 organized a seance at her home to contact whatever had taken 317 00:30:41,641 --> 00:30:45,321 away her daughter's sight. 318 00:30:51,661 --> 00:30:56,801 It was the same being. We were set to go back and we were 319 00:30:56,801 --> 00:30:59,921 going to finish the job. 320 00:31:01,661 --> 00:31:10,661 And I basically, I said, did you do this? Did you do this? 321 00:31:10,661 --> 00:31:15,621 Did you take my daughter's sight? 322 00:31:20,161 --> 00:31:27,781 All it said was, stay away. I said, fix this and I'll stay 323 00:31:27,781 --> 00:31:34,021 away. I won't go back. If you leave her alone, I'll leave you 324 00:31:34,021 --> 00:31:39,601 alone. Michelle had offered a deal. If the spirit returned 325 00:31:39,601 --> 00:31:42,801 her daughter's sight, she would not return to Susan's house to 326 00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:46,321 cleanse it once and for all. 327 00:31:52,661 --> 00:31:55,801 The step 328 00:32:24,161 --> 00:32:28,341 I gave my eyes a good rub and it was like, it was never a 329 00:32:28,341 --> 00:32:30,661 problem in the first place. It was the weirdest, strangest 330 00:32:30,661 --> 00:32:34,981 thing. I just came back. 331 00:32:38,161 --> 00:32:43,941 I was like, mom, my eyes are, they're working. I can see. 332 00:32:46,661 --> 00:32:53,561 She goes, hey, I can see. I'm like, like, wow. 333 00:32:57,161 --> 00:33:03,041 Are you serious? That's amazing. I stayed true to my 334 00:33:03,041 --> 00:33:10,981 word. I never returned. Never returned. And Susan Hayes using 335 00:33:10,981 --> 00:33:14,821 the techniques Michelle taught her has kept the evil at bay 336 00:33:14,821 --> 00:33:18,341 ever since. 337 00:33:27,661 --> 00:33:32,081 Usually people don't willingly invite evil entities into their 338 00:33:32,081 --> 00:33:35,921 homes. But when Tammy Deans became obsessed with the spirit 339 00:33:35,921 --> 00:33:42,081 world, she accidentally opened the door to dark forces. 340 00:34:00,661 --> 00:34:07,641 I was living in Sault Saint Marie and it was downtown. I 341 00:34:07,641 --> 00:34:11,241 was living with my daughter and I had a lot of overnight guests 342 00:34:11,241 --> 00:34:17,041 during this time. Tammy and her friends began experimenting 343 00:34:17,041 --> 00:34:20,321 with a spirit board. 344 00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:27,341 I don't even remember where we got it from but we started out 345 00:34:27,341 --> 00:34:31,821 with just a regular board that you can buy. 346 00:34:41,661 --> 00:34:46,721 I was always interested in that kind of thing and it intrigued 347 00:34:46,721 --> 00:34:50,321 me. I wanted to know if it worked. 348 00:34:52,161 --> 00:34:57,781 There were four of us that played on a regular basis. 349 00:34:59,161 --> 00:35:03,581 But I didn't realize how serious it could become. We 350 00:35:03,581 --> 00:35:06,941 thought it was just a game. 351 00:35:10,161 --> 00:35:16,421 It started out with just dead grandparents, things like that. 352 00:35:16,661 --> 00:35:21,081 We wanted more out of it so we started asking for things like 353 00:35:21,081 --> 00:35:27,161 Elvis and graduated from there to asking for the devil. We if 354 00:35:27,161 --> 00:35:33,981 if it was dead we asked for it. Their curiosity quickly turned 355 00:35:33,981 --> 00:35:37,501 into an obsession. 356 00:35:38,661 --> 00:35:42,281 It was giving us yes and no answers to our questions and 357 00:35:42,281 --> 00:35:47,641 from there it just kept telling us a story and as we got into 358 00:35:47,641 --> 00:35:52,201 it more we started taking notes so that we could you know keep 359 00:35:52,201 --> 00:35:57,161 track of what was being told. Soon it wasn't just messages 360 00:35:57,161 --> 00:36:02,681 the group were getting from the board. Who are you? 361 00:36:05,661 --> 00:36:09,921 We asked for, you know, the certain spirit to come in. What 362 00:36:09,921 --> 00:36:18,721 do you want from us? You would see the candles going out. 363 00:36:21,161 --> 00:36:29,941 Or making weird smoke patterns I guess. I 364 00:36:31,161 --> 00:36:35,021 I was scared, yes. That was when I didn't understand what 365 00:36:35,021 --> 00:36:37,821 was going on. 366 00:36:38,661 --> 00:36:44,441 Everything seemed to just be different in the air and it's 367 00:36:44,441 --> 00:36:46,681 not so much that you could see it, it was the fact that you 368 00:36:46,681 --> 00:36:49,881 could feel where it was. 369 00:37:12,661 --> 00:37:16,961 We would hear a lot of knocking noises. We would hear growls 370 00:37:16,961 --> 00:37:19,961 continuously. 371 00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:48,601 Tammy Deans and her friends had been using a spirit board to 372 00:37:48,601 --> 00:37:52,521 speak with the dead but the messages from beyond had become 373 00:37:52,521 --> 00:37:57,881 more frightening. We would hear a lot of knocking noises. We 374 00:37:57,881 --> 00:38:02,041 would hear growls continuously. 375 00:38:10,661 --> 00:38:15,161 I just could feel my skin crawl and my hair stand on the back 376 00:38:15,161 --> 00:38:17,881 of my neck. 377 00:38:26,661 --> 00:38:32,121 The shadow figures were there pretty much nightly. 378 00:38:35,161 --> 00:38:41,261 They would come and go at least one, sometimes two or three and 379 00:38:41,261 --> 00:38:45,181 they were huge. 380 00:38:46,661 --> 00:38:51,001 It wasn't necessarily a human form. We would all be sitting 381 00:38:51,001 --> 00:38:53,961 at the table and there's nobody else in the apartment with us 382 00:38:53,961 --> 00:38:57,401 except the baby in the crib way in the other room but this 383 00:38:57,401 --> 00:39:01,961 figure would move where we knew we weren't moving so that we 384 00:39:01,961 --> 00:39:05,401 knew that we weren't making it. 385 00:39:11,661 --> 00:39:15,521 At first, it was non-belief that we were seeing with the 386 00:39:15,521 --> 00:39:19,281 shadow figures. Um it really, everybody was kind of looking 387 00:39:19,281 --> 00:39:22,641 at each other looking for an explanation. The excitement was 388 00:39:22,641 --> 00:39:28,161 really high but it was also very fearful. 389 00:39:31,661 --> 00:39:34,401 In the wrong hands the spirit board can bring up anything 390 00:39:34,401 --> 00:39:37,201 that you don't want. When you have a negative entity that 391 00:39:37,201 --> 00:39:39,601 comes through and you have an open invitation to that 392 00:39:39,601 --> 00:39:41,761 negative entity that's who's going to come through and not 393 00:39:41,761 --> 00:39:48,041 always a loved one. All this paranormal activity was taking 394 00:39:48,041 --> 00:39:53,561 its toll on Tammy. Once we were done playing the Spirit Board I 395 00:39:53,561 --> 00:39:57,081 had to go back to my regular life for the next few hours and 396 00:39:57,081 --> 00:40:00,681 it was very hard to ignore the fact that there was all this 397 00:40:00,681 --> 00:40:05,641 activity going on in the home that I was living in. 398 00:40:22,661 --> 00:40:28,121 But my obsession took over. We weren't into drugs or alcohol. 399 00:40:28,121 --> 00:40:32,761 It was this was our obsession. This was our addiction. 400 00:40:40,161 --> 00:40:45,141 There was one particular night and it's still unbelievable. My 401 00:40:45,141 --> 00:40:47,781 friend that was playing with us, she was sleeping on the 402 00:40:47,781 --> 00:40:56,741 floor. And she started dreaming and and flailing around. 403 00:41:06,161 --> 00:41:10,661 We were trying to wake her up and she started literally 404 00:41:10,661 --> 00:41:18,501 talking in what I believe to be tongues. March for now let's 405 00:41:21,661 --> 00:41:26,001 At least 10 maybe even 15 minutes it took for her to 406 00:41:26,001 --> 00:41:29,041 finally come around. And when she woke up her eyes were 407 00:41:29,041 --> 00:41:31,441 bloodshot and she didn't remember anything about the 408 00:41:31,441 --> 00:41:34,881 dream or us trying to wake her up. 409 00:41:39,661 --> 00:41:43,521 I really thought that she may have been possessed at some 410 00:41:43,521 --> 00:41:47,921 point. It definitely scared all of us. 411 00:41:54,661 --> 00:41:58,281 Once you have opened that door with the Spirit Board, there 412 00:41:58,281 --> 00:42:01,401 can be a lot of horrible consequences. Uh the spirits 413 00:42:01,401 --> 00:42:04,521 can become dangerous and there are even many cases of 414 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:08,601 possession as a result. Using a spirit board is just inviting 415 00:42:08,601 --> 00:42:14,521 all kinds of trouble you do not need. The possession didn't 416 00:42:14,521 --> 00:42:17,801 stop Tammy and her friends from using the spirit board. But 417 00:42:17,801 --> 00:42:23,001 nothing could prepare them for what would happen next. We were 418 00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:26,681 looking in the window or out the window and you could see 419 00:42:26,681 --> 00:42:30,201 them outside two different spirits were dueling I guess 420 00:42:30,201 --> 00:42:33,001 you could say. 421 00:42:45,161 --> 00:42:50,461 It's still unbelievable when I talk about it. It was very 422 00:42:50,461 --> 00:42:52,701 frightening. We couldn't believe it. We couldn't believe 423 00:42:52,701 --> 00:42:55,181 it. 424 00:42:56,161 --> 00:42:59,701 It was one thing to see them in the apartment but to know that 425 00:42:59,701 --> 00:43:04,501 they can go outside actually scared me even more. 426 00:43:06,161 --> 00:43:10,501 Afraid of the demons they had unleashed, Tammy realized they 427 00:43:10,501 --> 00:43:13,701 had gone too far. 428 00:43:14,661 --> 00:43:18,601 Demons turned out to be the least of Tammy's problems when 429 00:43:18,601 --> 00:43:22,601 evil forces started to take over the thing most precious to 430 00:43:22,601 --> 00:43:25,001 her. 431 00:43:37,161 --> 00:43:40,541 Really? 432 00:43:57,661 --> 00:44:01,761 Tammy Dean's and her friend's obsession with the Spirit Board 433 00:44:01,761 --> 00:44:06,561 had invited paranormal entities into her home. 434 00:44:07,161 --> 00:44:11,341 One night, Tammy woke up to find her daughter, Billy, 435 00:44:11,341 --> 00:44:14,701 acting strangely. 436 00:44:18,161 --> 00:44:24,441 Really? I went to go into her crib to lift her up and her 437 00:44:24,441 --> 00:44:28,721 eyes scared the living daylights out of me. Everything 438 00:44:28,721 --> 00:44:31,601 okay? 439 00:44:39,661 --> 00:44:42,961 Knowing that as a mother, I'm supposed to be picking her up 440 00:44:42,961 --> 00:44:46,001 and taking care of her but I'm so afraid by the look on her 441 00:44:46,001 --> 00:44:50,721 face and how she was staring at me with black eyes. 442 00:44:52,161 --> 00:45:01,141 It was very scary to know that something else could control me 443 00:45:01,141 --> 00:45:06,021 as a mother where I didn't feel like I could protect her. 444 00:45:06,021 --> 00:45:11,041 Knowing that we were playing with such evil things, I was 445 00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:15,601 very worried that something would happen to her. 446 00:45:19,661 --> 00:45:23,601 I do believe that we released something but the story needs 447 00:45:23,601 --> 00:45:26,241 to be told because there's other people out there that are 448 00:45:26,241 --> 00:45:30,561 just as young and innocent and maybe stupid if you want to 449 00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:34,081 call it as we were. 450 00:45:40,161 --> 00:45:46,061 I'm hoping that through me, they can learn the lesson. The 451 00:45:46,061 --> 00:45:49,661 next morning, Tammy moved out and cut all ties with the 452 00:45:49,661 --> 00:45:54,301 group. Though we all live in the same city, none of us talk 453 00:45:54,301 --> 00:45:58,541 anymore. We don't want to have anything to do with each other 454 00:45:58,541 --> 00:46:04,521 anymore. She vowed never to touch a spirit board again and 455 00:46:04,521 --> 00:46:10,341 the paranormal activity stopped. If you're going to do 456 00:46:10,341 --> 00:46:15,461 it, have great respect. Don't play with it.39039

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