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Tonight on Part 2
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of "The Real Housewives
of Rhode Island" Reunion...
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There's a rumor circulating
online saying that
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Kelsey may have been an escort.
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I've never sold any of my holes
for money.
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The men of "Rhode Island"
are gonna join us.
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You've gotta tell Rulla
everything.
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Did Brian tell you that Liz
was with another man?
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Yes.
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Kelsey, there was some question
relating to the timeline
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of your breakup.
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My relationship's very complex
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for a lot of people
to understand.
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Have you amended the prenup
and set a wedding date?
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Brian says your butt
smells like garlic,
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just so you know.
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She's not gonna stop
until he says when it ended.
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The affair ended when?
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You're a----ing slut.
That's all you are.
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And the whole----ing state
knows that.
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Guess what?
Your husband's a slut.
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No, [bleep] you.
You sleep with doctors!
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You have it after my husband.
You sleep with doctors.
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- Sit down. You cannot.
- I don't know what's bigger,
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your mouth
or what's between your legs.
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I'm gonna break
your----ing nose.
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Say something, Rulla.
You're----ing nuts.
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No. You all----ing know.
You know.
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- You know.
- Know what?
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- Know what?
- You know.
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- Know what?
- And you all know.
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She's a----ing whore, but she
wants to point the finger
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at everybody else.
- I'm a whore?
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Your husband's not a whore?
I'm a whore?
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- Rulla, Rulla, no.
- Put my husband aside!
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He's a separate conversation.
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- You can't even admit that.
- It's already been admitted.
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We already know he did
what he did. He's not a whore.
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- No?!
- He made a mistake. Bad mistake
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and series of choices.
- When did that stop?
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- It's no bigger than that now.
- Okay, well, we're gonna get
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into it, okay? Wait, wait, wait.
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My life is
so----ing interesting.
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- You asked me for proof.
- You can't stop making it
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your business.
- You asked me for proof.
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But, Jo-Ellen,
you don't sound like someone
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who had good intentions, though.
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- You know what?
- So you can't do both.
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Here's the thing. I started off
with good intentions.
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You don't sound like someone--
No, you didn't.
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- I started off being nice.
- No, you didn't.
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I started off being nice.
I told you.
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No one know--everyone knows
you didn't have good intentions.
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- I told you.
- You're full of sh--.
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- You were my friend, Liz.
- Go deal with your own life!
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- I'm sure you got enough dirt.
- I've dealt with my life.
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- You know that.
- All right.
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Jo-Ellen, everybody in the state
knows what you did.
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She got a new nose
and then got a new personality.
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Okay, hold on.
Let me ask a question.
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Rosie, this one's for you.
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Uh, Antonella
from San Francisco said,
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when will the house
be completed?
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Rich said, like, mid July or so.
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And we are ending up
at how many square feet?
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Rich tells me to just keep
saying 5,000-square-foot
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- ...project to be...
- Okay.
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- Is that satisfactory with you?
- And that's why I was
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getting confused. I don't like--
- Yeah, I don't care
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the size of her house.
- Okay, it seems like you do.
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You, like, exaggerate things.
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Like, "Yeah,
me and Rich are building, like,
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an 8,000-square-foot house,"
then just, like, blurt sh-- out.
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I have no idea why Kelsey
would actually care
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about the square footage
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or the honesty of
the square footage of a house.
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At the beginning,
she said it was 8,000.
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So that's what I'm saying.
It's not 8,000.
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So I can clear that up, too.
We were supposed
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to have a third floor.
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You were gonna have
a third floor, yes.
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From what I understand,
is the same--
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you had the plans from the house
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from the previous owner
that you used.
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- Um--
- No, it wasn't the same plan.
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- Again, with the lie.
- Jo-Ellen, you were the first
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person that was skeptical.
- You know what?
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I'm going to go get my--
my binder because I can't--
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No--
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No, I, like,
can't deal with this.
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No, but we're
talking about you right now.
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- I know, but she's literally--
- So if you leave,
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we're not gonna be able
to talk about you.
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It's like
she just says random sh--.
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- All right. Well, let's--
- Like, it's too much.
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Let me ask a question.
Del from Wisconsin said,
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"Rosie, I think you might be
the first Housewife to admit
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to bleeding
out of your butthole.
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Did you really
have to leave your job
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because you had
to wear diapers?"
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Well, I went on medical leave
because of the colitis,
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and then
I realized how great life was
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not getting up
at 2:00 in the morning.
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Getting up at 2:30
in the morning for 10 years,
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15 years, that's hard, you know?
- Yeah.
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Kelsey, you still believe
that she quit her job
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because she was sleeping
with a higher-up?
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She "left" on medical leave. No.
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Me and the entire state
of Rhode Island
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knows that she got fired
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for having an affair
with one of the higher-ups.
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I don't think that the job,
her leaving was necessarily
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as... clean
as she is describing it.
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Maybe the affair rumors
were really more
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towards the basketball coach
than it was her job.
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There were relationships
that were ruined with colleagues
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because of some sort of...
incident,
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um, at her job, but I don't
necessarily think that
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that's why she... left.
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The reality is
I have the documentation.
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I have everything
in my briefcase back there
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that I wanted to get.
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I wanted to show you this.
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What's in it?
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It's more like what's not in it.
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Oh, my God. You really
did come with your receipts.
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I'm not even gonna bring it out
'cause it's, like, too big.
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I was watching the show,
learning new things
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that I had done
or being accused of, you know?
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So it is what it is.
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So, Alicia, tell me about when
you and Billy first met.
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Was it love at first sight?
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No, um, he was a stalker.
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- He was a stalker?
- Yeah, he was.
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He was very persistent with me,
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and, um, that's how
he won me over.
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I was like, been there,
done that with dating, and he--
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- He beat you down.
- He beat me down.
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- Metaphorically.
- Yeah.
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Any wedding date yet?
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No, but I'm actually talking
about it, which is a big deal.
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Who are you talking to about it?
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- Billy and my daughter.
- Okay, good.
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Yeah, like, I have an idea.
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It's not soon,
but I think, like, to do, like,
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you know, go to Greece.
- Okay.
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Billy's family's from Greece
and all that.
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But anyways,
yeah, I wanna go there.
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'Cause "Mamma Mia!" Like,
you know, like, that whole vibe.
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- The Italians and the Greeks.
- Yeah.
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I like that.
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Now, we learned that Billy works
a million hours,
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uh, in all of his restaurants
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and has the time to drive
Celina to dance class.
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- Yes.
- Anything change on that front?
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- No.
- No.
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I'll do whatever it takes so you
can drive to pick up Celina
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from dance or drop her off.
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It seemed like he took you
through... the route.
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Yeah.
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And it seemed like you were
gonna be able to do it.
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It's, like, an hour there,
and it's an hour back.
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- Do you drive short distances?
- All the time.
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- You do?
- Yes.
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Anything over, like, 20 minutes
I have to think about.
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It's my anxiety.
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Let's talk crackers.
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I love a cracker.
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A lot of people want to know
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if you will come out
with your own line of crackers.
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So I am working on
making my own cracker.
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Who are
you working on that with?
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So, um, you know
the oyster crackers?
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- Yeah.
- Them.
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Oh, okay.
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I just call them
oyster crackers.
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Right.
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How do you stay so lean
when you eat so many crackers?
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"Janes" Fonda.
I love "Janes" Fonda.
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My Auntie Judy is the one that
trained me on "Janes" Fonda.
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- Okay.
- She loves "Janes" Fonda,
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so it stuck with me.
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And so,
but do you eat proteins?
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- Not a lot.
- No.
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- I do almonds.
- Elements.
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- Almonds.
- Almonds. Almonds.
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- Almonds.
- Almonds. Walnuts.
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- Like, I'll do--
- Oh, almonds.
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Yeah. Maybe a turkey pepperoni
with, like, a cracker.
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- Oh, okay.
- Yeah.
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Uh, Vicky from Kansas wants
to know,
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have you gotten more
of a stake in Pizza Mamma?
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Moving forward,
if we open up Pizza Mammas,
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am I ever gonna have, like,
like, 5% ownership, 10%?
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Am I ever gonna be, like,
I am part owner of that?
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Yeah, you can be.
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I am getting, like, some of it.
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Like, I guess the merch,
which I just realized, too.
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And for the next one, I guess?
I don't even know.
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See, that's the thing.
And I don't get--
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There's a lot of things,
you know?
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Louis from Arkansas said,
"Why doesn't Alicia
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just have a lawyer negotiate
a better prenup deal,
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and Billy can put up
or shut up?"
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So we were gonna do that, but I
almost got, like, "eff you."
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He made me sign a prenup.
He wanted me to.
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So I went to the lawyers,
and they said,
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"He's not even leaving with
you--with a penny. Nothing."
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It shut me down. It made me
realize it's not a fairy tale.
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It's all about business.
You know?
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Who here in the cast
has a prenup?
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No one.
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- You do. Rulla does.
- We each have our own.
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- You each have your own.
- It was my idea.
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I bet. It seemed to trigger
the rest of the ladies
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that Billy didn't put your name
on the house.
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- Is your name on the house yet?
- So I'm in a trust.
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This is what he tells me.
"You're in a trust."
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I have no idea what a trust is,
and this is what frustrates me.
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I just want, like,
the easy old school thing.
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I wanna see my name
on the house.
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- What's a trust?
- Rulla?
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It's a vehicle that they use,
that you put assets in,
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but there are people
designated in the trust
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to whom the asset passes on to.
And...
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That's what I mean.
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So this is why I feel
like he does stuff like this.
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He's, like, an attorney,
and then when he tells me
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about it, I get bored,
and I feel like that's how
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he took advantage of this,
'cause I'd be like,
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"All right, next week. Don't
bore me with this." You know?
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Maybe you should ask
to see the trust.
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- I know.
- That's all.
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You know, Alicia, as I've gotten
to know you and Billy more,
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Billy would never, ever
leave you without, like, half.
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- I want you to be safe, too.
- Yeah.
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- But that is such a good man.
- Yeah, he's the best.
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He's all right.
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Rosie, are you 50/50
on the house with Rich?
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Yeah, and I paid
for the house myself.
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Well, Rich paid for half,
obviously, but I sold my condo,
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and then I put that money down.
- Good.
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You can keep looking
at each other.
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I can get the paperwork
for you.
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Well, I know you have two
mortgages on your house, babe.
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- We have a construction loan.
- And--And a mortgage.
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- Anyone can look at that.
- It was bundled together.
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- This is very normal.
- But what does that--but what--
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- A lot of people have mortgages.
- She's making it seem--
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She's making it seem like she
just paid $689,000 for a house.
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Babe, you have a mortgage
with 10% down. Relax.
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I never said that. That's not
how normal people buy houses.
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Did you look up
her mortgage information?
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- Someone sent it to me.
- Yeah, I'm sure it was Gary,
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who works in mortgages,
but you're making it seem
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as though, like,
I can't afford a house.
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I am sorry for whatever I've
ever done to you to upset you.
258
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- That's fine.
- I don't want you
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to be upset with me.
Please accept my apology.
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- Do you accept her apology?
- Obviously not.
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But I don't think it--
actions speak louder than words.
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Like, you--you're just as
bad as me,
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so let's not say
I'm the only mean girl here.
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We're both doing it
to each other.
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After weeks of you attacking me,
I attacked back.
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Saying that she was, you know,
at the pageant--
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That my ex paid off the judges.
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You keep doing nasty things
to me.
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- Yeah, I'm so nasty.
- I'm sorry.
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Let's hold there, and we will
pick it up after the break.
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Don't worry.
I don't think you to be scary.
272
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Test one, two.
273
00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:06,562
Brian, who you texting?
274
00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:07,824
Who am I texting?
275
00:10:07,868 --> 00:10:10,348
Show you right here--
texting my father.
276
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So how do you guys think
the ladies are doing out there?
277
00:10:12,176 --> 00:10:13,917
- What's the consensus?
- Long day.
278
00:10:14,004 --> 00:10:15,527
There's gotta be a couple wars.
279
00:10:15,658 --> 00:10:16,833
So are you Team Kelsey
or Team Rosie?
280
00:10:19,575 --> 00:10:21,359
Oh!
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00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:23,492
- Obviously, Team Rosie.
- Did you hear the fight?
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00:10:23,579 --> 00:10:24,580
I wasn't there.
283
00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:26,190
You're a----ing slam pig!
284
00:10:26,321 --> 00:10:28,323
Don't ever----ing
talk to me again!
285
00:10:28,453 --> 00:10:29,977
- You're a slam pig!
- I'm a pig?
286
00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:30,891
Do you know what I liked about
the fight when I watched it?
287
00:10:30,934 --> 00:10:31,979
Oh, here we go.
288
00:10:32,022 --> 00:10:33,241
I mean, honestly,
what I enjoyed?
289
00:10:33,371 --> 00:10:35,243
- Why are you liking this?
- I'll tell you why.
290
00:10:35,373 --> 00:10:37,027
'Cause in the background,
all you heard was Jared.
291
00:10:37,158 --> 00:10:38,812
- Oh, yeah.
- That's the second fight.
292
00:10:38,899 --> 00:10:40,857
- You wanna go home?
- She's attacking me again.
293
00:10:40,988 --> 00:10:42,032
- Bye, bye. Bye, bye.
- I'm going home.
294
00:10:42,163 --> 00:10:43,817
I'm going home.
I'm----ing gonna go home.
295
00:10:43,904 --> 00:10:45,949
- Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
- I'm done with this sh--.
296
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[amplified voice] What is
297
00:10:47,342 --> 00:10:50,475
the president's helicopter
called?
298
00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:52,477
I didn't know that fight
had happened
299
00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:54,175
until I watched the show.
Alicia didn't tell me about it.
300
00:10:54,305 --> 00:10:55,611
- Which one?
- All of 'em.
301
00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:57,178
- Oh.
- Like, with Kelsey and Rosie.
302
00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:58,222
- I had no idea.
- Oh, yeah?
303
00:10:58,353 --> 00:11:00,224
Alicia doesn't
fill you in usually?
304
00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:02,139
No, no, she's like,
"I can't tell you. It was terr--
305
00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:04,054
Oh, I don't--I can't tell you
what happened. It was terrible.
306
00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:05,621
I'm so stressed out.
Bye. Bye. I gotta go."
307
00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:08,058
Coming up next...
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How long have
you been with Brian?
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- For nine and a half--10 years.
- Really?
310
00:11:12,367 --> 00:11:14,195
Then Brian is a polygamist
311
00:11:14,282 --> 00:11:15,892
because he must have been
married to you
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00:11:15,979 --> 00:11:18,025
and the Spanish teacher
at the same time.
313
00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:19,722
No, that's not the truth,
Jo-Ellen.
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00:11:19,809 --> 00:11:21,158
Oh, I have proof.
315
00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:25,728
Listen, look at the back
of my dress right now.
316
00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:28,209
- They had to sew it together.
- What?
317
00:11:28,296 --> 00:11:30,646
My boobs--both of them
completely fell out.
318
00:11:30,777 --> 00:11:31,778
What do you mean,
you had to sew it together?
319
00:11:31,821 --> 00:11:32,648
I went like this,
and my boobs came down.
320
00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:33,867
The whole dress came down.
321
00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:35,346
And how long have
you and Gerry been together?
322
00:11:35,433 --> 00:11:37,087
- Almost 22 years.
- Wow.
323
00:11:37,131 --> 00:11:38,349
That's a long time.
324
00:11:38,436 --> 00:11:41,352
Couple of stints off
here and there.
325
00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:43,137
- Listen...
- It happens.
326
00:11:43,224 --> 00:11:44,921
- Everybody needs a break.
- Yeah.
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00:11:45,008 --> 00:11:46,923
3...2...
328
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Welcome back
329
00:11:48,446 --> 00:11:50,840
to "The Real Housewives
of Rhode island" Reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen.
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00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:55,062
Kelsey, when you competed
for Miss USA, the announcer
332
00:11:55,149 --> 00:11:57,629
said...
"Kelsey was once struck
333
00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,981
by a drunk driver while
she was at the hospital.
334
00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:04,071
A neurologist discovered
she had a brain tumor.
335
00:12:04,114 --> 00:12:08,510
It's not a rumor.
The doctors removed that tumor."
336
00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,642
That's how
the announcer said it.
337
00:12:10,686 --> 00:12:12,253
Yeah. I didn't know
that they were gonna say that
338
00:12:12,383 --> 00:12:14,734
until I was walking
on the stage,
339
00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:19,434
but 2014,
I got hit by a drunk driver.
340
00:12:19,477 --> 00:12:22,611
My ex's brother was my lawyer,
and he was like,
341
00:12:22,698 --> 00:12:24,221
"Just make sure you have
a little bit of a black eye.
342
00:12:24,265 --> 00:12:25,527
I'll send you
to get a CAT scan."
343
00:12:25,614 --> 00:12:27,790
And they accidentally found
a brain tumor.
344
00:12:27,921 --> 00:12:30,271
I wanted to compete
in the pageant,
345
00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:33,013
and so I asked if they can hold
off the brain surgery for it,
346
00:12:33,056 --> 00:12:34,971
and they did.
347
00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,931
You put off brain surgery
to compete in the pageant?
348
00:12:38,061 --> 00:12:40,498
Yeah. And it was the size
of, like, almost a golf ball.
349
00:12:40,585 --> 00:12:42,109
And if I didn't
get it removed,
350
00:12:42,152 --> 00:12:43,632
I would have lost
all of my peripheral vision.
351
00:12:43,675 --> 00:12:46,983
Wow.
352
00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:50,334
Helen from Vermont said,
"There's a rumor circulating
353
00:12:50,421 --> 00:12:53,076
online saying that Kelsey
may have been an escort
354
00:12:53,163 --> 00:12:55,992
who charged 29K for dinner
and dessert."
355
00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:57,864
Have you heard that?
356
00:12:57,951 --> 00:12:59,430
I've never sold any of my holes
for money.
357
00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:00,780
Let's just get that straight.
358
00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:05,480
And I have, you know,
proof of me
359
00:13:05,567 --> 00:13:10,050
going to the state barracks for
getting harassed by somebody,
360
00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,704
stealing my photos, making
fake pages of me, my Facebook--
361
00:13:12,835 --> 00:13:15,142
And were you able
to find the person who did it?
362
00:13:15,229 --> 00:13:17,797
- No. I have no idea.
- How would you book that person?
363
00:13:17,927 --> 00:13:20,147
- All of a sudden, it stopped.
- We don't know who this was?
364
00:13:20,234 --> 00:13:24,455
No, I know it was some,
I think, actual escort
365
00:13:24,586 --> 00:13:28,633
in Boston who was hanging
around the same crew of people
366
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,375
that I was hanging out with.
367
00:13:31,462 --> 00:13:34,161
Not to float
conspiracy theories,
368
00:13:34,248 --> 00:13:37,338
but could it have been someone
that your ex dated
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00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:41,037
who knew that you were with him
and was trying to mess with you?
370
00:13:41,168 --> 00:13:43,735
I don't think so.
But I've never been an escort,
371
00:13:43,866 --> 00:13:47,522
and I would never be an escort.
372
00:13:47,565 --> 00:13:49,741
Zoe from Scottsdale said,
"Kelsey, when you were
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00:13:49,872 --> 00:13:51,787
with your ex,
you two had an agreement.
374
00:13:51,918 --> 00:13:54,659
Can you explain exactly
what the agreement was?"
375
00:13:54,703 --> 00:13:58,098
So there was no "agreement."
Right?
376
00:13:58,185 --> 00:14:02,232
And that's why I don't really
align with the polyamory...
377
00:14:02,363 --> 00:14:04,408
title of it.
378
00:14:04,452 --> 00:14:06,628
You knew he was
seeing other people.
379
00:14:06,671 --> 00:14:09,849
Yeah. So I learned things
the longer I was with him,
380
00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:12,939
that there was somebody else,
and then that kind of went away.
381
00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,680
And then at that point, it was
kind of like a free-for-all.
382
00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:16,768
I didn't really know
who he was with.
383
00:14:16,812 --> 00:14:18,988
Were you ever jealous?
384
00:14:19,032 --> 00:14:22,470
Um, at the beginning when
there was one other person
385
00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:24,428
in another state,
386
00:14:24,515 --> 00:14:28,693
yeah, I'd be a little jealous
until I met up with that person,
387
00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:31,044
and we kind of had a mutual
understanding and agreement
388
00:14:31,174 --> 00:14:34,047
to not post each other
with him online.
389
00:14:34,134 --> 00:14:35,918
And after that, it kind of
390
00:14:35,962 --> 00:14:37,789
was just like,
out of sight, out of mind,
391
00:14:37,833 --> 00:14:40,401
different state, don't care.
392
00:14:40,444 --> 00:14:43,404
So that was happening in Miami
while you were in Rhode Island?
393
00:14:43,447 --> 00:14:45,362
- Yeah.
- Is she still with him?
394
00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:47,538
No, they haven't
been together since 2020.
395
00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:51,107
Oh. So does
he have a new girlfriend?
396
00:14:51,194 --> 00:14:52,152
- I'm sure he has women...
- Right.
397
00:14:52,282 --> 00:14:53,936
...that he takes out
398
00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:56,112
and does a lot, you know?
And I knew--
399
00:14:56,243 --> 00:14:58,375
He was dating Paula Abdul
for a while.
400
00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:00,073
- He did before, yeah.
- Before you.
401
00:15:00,203 --> 00:15:01,857
Before me. I used to stay
at Paula's house with him
402
00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:03,728
when we went to L.A.
403
00:15:03,815 --> 00:15:07,471
- They're friendly now.
- Oh. How did you meet your ex?
404
00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:11,084
So we met at a tanning salon,
the one that Jo-Ellen worked at.
405
00:15:11,127 --> 00:15:12,476
Really?
406
00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,087
Um, because the owner
of the tanning salon
407
00:15:14,174 --> 00:15:16,045
and my ex were best friends.
408
00:15:16,132 --> 00:15:17,960
- Wow.
- Yeah.
409
00:15:18,004 --> 00:15:21,746
Now your ex originally
agreed to be on the show
410
00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:23,966
and then changed his mind?
411
00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:26,360
Yeah, well, before
he knew it was "Housewives,"
412
00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:28,362
he was on my casting tapes.
413
00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:30,320
And then as soon as
he knew it was "Housewives,"
414
00:15:30,451 --> 00:15:32,496
he's like,
"Eh, nope, not happening."
415
00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:34,890
- Because?
- He watches "Housewives."
416
00:15:35,021 --> 00:15:37,197
And he was just like, "Girls
aren't gonna be, you know,
417
00:15:37,327 --> 00:15:39,155
talking about me,
and I have no control over it."
418
00:15:39,242 --> 00:15:42,332
But interestingly enough,
he was very talked about.
419
00:15:42,463 --> 00:15:44,421
Never have
I ever been a polygamist.
420
00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:46,902
- I thought Kelsey was that.
- You thought Kelsey was what?
421
00:15:46,989 --> 00:15:48,121
Like, her boyfriend
has a girlfriend here
422
00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:50,079
and a girlfriend in Florida, no?
423
00:15:50,123 --> 00:15:51,472
What was his reaction
to the show?
424
00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:52,995
- He likes it.
- He does?
425
00:15:53,082 --> 00:15:55,389
- Yeah.
- Where are you living now?
426
00:15:55,432 --> 00:15:56,956
- I live with Bill.
- You do?
427
00:15:57,043 --> 00:15:59,567
- Yeah. I do. Yeah.
- Wow, that's great.
428
00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:02,918
Has your sugar daddy cut off
your insurance payments
429
00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,659
and car payments and stuff?
- He has.
430
00:16:04,746 --> 00:16:06,008
- Yes.
- He has, yeah.
431
00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:08,228
That's done.
So who is paying those now?
432
00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:09,925
Bill pays for my car.
433
00:16:10,012 --> 00:16:11,840
Um, and I pay
for my health insurance.
434
00:16:11,927 --> 00:16:13,711
- Nice.
- Yeah.
435
00:16:13,755 --> 00:16:16,323
Liz, at dinner with Kelsey
and Jo-Ellen,
436
00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:19,282
you mentioned that you also
had an ex-boyfriend
437
00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:20,892
paying for things.
438
00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:23,983
Anyone else been in
a relationship like this? Rulla?
439
00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:26,333
- No.
- No? No?
440
00:16:26,463 --> 00:16:28,944
You're missing out.
441
00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,554
Rulla, how are you and Brian
doing?
442
00:16:38,693 --> 00:16:40,695
Rulla, how are
you and Brian doing?
443
00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:44,220
We're doing
a lot better now, Andy.
444
00:16:44,264 --> 00:16:47,963
Day by day, day by day,
working on things.
445
00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:50,835
Show of hands, who thinks
that Rulla was really sick?
446
00:16:54,404 --> 00:16:57,407
- Because it didn't seem like it.
- It was stress-induced for sure.
447
00:16:57,494 --> 00:16:58,713
I'm so sorry.
448
00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,497
I'm not gonna be able to make it
today, beautiful.
449
00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:02,064
I was at the urgent care.
450
00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:06,895
The day before the girls trip,
I started to feel like
451
00:17:06,938 --> 00:17:08,462
I was coming down
with something,
452
00:17:08,592 --> 00:17:13,032
legitimately so sick,
I could die. I could.
453
00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:15,817
I think it was mental, and it
was causing havoc on your body.
454
00:17:15,947 --> 00:17:18,124
Your body breaks down
when you're stressed.
455
00:17:18,211 --> 00:17:21,518
I was at the hospital twice
and on my back for 14 days,
456
00:17:21,649 --> 00:17:24,434
I was, like, so effing sick.
But there's definitely stress,
457
00:17:24,521 --> 00:17:27,568
and all that absolutely piled on
the entire summer.
458
00:17:27,611 --> 00:17:29,222
I'm not gonna lie.
459
00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:31,354
The stress of what was
going on in your marriage
460
00:17:31,441 --> 00:17:35,184
was partly to blame for what
kept you from Newport and from--
461
00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:36,577
- Absolutely.
- Yes.
462
00:17:36,664 --> 00:17:38,144
You agreed it happened
the whole entire summer
463
00:17:38,187 --> 00:17:39,580
with Brian and the mistress?
464
00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:42,104
I don't know.
465
00:17:42,278 --> 00:17:43,932
I know that he was saying
and doing things
466
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,890
so that she wouldn't
go buck wild.
467
00:17:45,977 --> 00:17:48,284
And that's what Brian
was telling you?
468
00:17:48,328 --> 00:17:49,459
Yes.
469
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:50,982
And so because
he was telling you,
470
00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:55,074
you were able to discount
what Jo-Ellen was telling you?
471
00:17:55,161 --> 00:17:56,205
Yes.
472
00:17:56,249 --> 00:17:57,859
I have the text. Look.
473
00:17:57,902 --> 00:17:59,774
That's her and his conversation.
474
00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:02,211
Rulla, this is
on her story right now.
475
00:18:02,298 --> 00:18:04,735
Rulla, I think you should know
what's in the video.
476
00:18:04,779 --> 00:18:07,042
Brian is, like, consoling
477
00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:09,044
and, like, caressing
this blonde lady
478
00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:11,481
and, like, kissing her.
479
00:18:11,525 --> 00:18:13,831
If you want to see it,
it's there for you.
480
00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:15,311
I don't need to see it.
481
00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:17,052
I was just wishing
that all this stuff
482
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,141
would stop coming to me.
483
00:18:19,185 --> 00:18:20,795
And obviously, that's part of
the reason why
484
00:18:20,882 --> 00:18:23,450
I was getting sick all the time
and why I lost all the weight.
485
00:18:23,493 --> 00:18:25,321
And I wish people
could just respect the fact
486
00:18:25,452 --> 00:18:28,063
that I'm trying
to work on things.
487
00:18:28,194 --> 00:18:30,021
You know, we had a tracking app.
He'd be around.
488
00:18:30,152 --> 00:18:31,632
I knew when he was at work,
so I...
489
00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:33,590
You had a tracking app on...
490
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:35,505
An app, like a joint app.
491
00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:37,594
- You had each other's locations?
- Yes.
492
00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:39,857
So why was he tracking your car?
493
00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:41,642
I have no idea.
494
00:18:41,685 --> 00:18:43,774
Do you remember me telling you
that he had a tracker on you?
495
00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:45,472
Maybe. I can't recall clearly,
496
00:18:45,515 --> 00:18:47,082
but maybe you did.
- I said it.
497
00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:49,040
Don't you track her? Because
you told the mistress you did.
498
00:18:49,084 --> 00:18:50,433
That was a long time ago.
I don't track her.
499
00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:52,522
Oh, no, no. She told me that,
like, what, a week ago?
500
00:18:52,566 --> 00:18:55,308
Brian told the mistress,
"I'm tracking Rulla.
501
00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:57,223
I wanna make sure that,
you know, I know where she is
502
00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:59,529
so she doesn't come
when we're together."
503
00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:00,661
And I don't know what
your thoughts are right now
504
00:19:00,748 --> 00:19:02,967
of when their relationship
ended, but...
505
00:19:03,054 --> 00:19:06,449
He was trying to keep her at bay
and try to fizzle things off.
506
00:19:06,493 --> 00:19:08,495
We're gonna get into this.
507
00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:10,845
The husbands are gonna
be out in a little bit.
508
00:19:10,932 --> 00:19:12,760
Let's move on.
509
00:19:12,847 --> 00:19:15,850
So Alicia said that she had
a Spanish teacher who...
510
00:19:15,893 --> 00:19:19,984
- You.
- ...was married to Brian.
511
00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:21,986
- I know her.
- I'm sure you know her.
512
00:19:22,117 --> 00:19:23,466
- Oh, yeah.
- Brian's ex-wife.
513
00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:24,467
Yes.
514
00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:25,903
I don't know if this is true.
515
00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:27,818
Rulla's husband
cheated on his first wife,
516
00:19:27,905 --> 00:19:30,125
my Spanish teacher, with Rulla.
517
00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:32,083
I hope that's not true,
518
00:19:32,127 --> 00:19:33,824
'cause I really did like
my Spanish teacher.
519
00:19:33,868 --> 00:19:35,609
Did you have an affair
with Brian?
520
00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:37,088
- No. God, no.
- No.
521
00:19:37,132 --> 00:19:39,613
No, Brian was already divorced
a good year and a half,
522
00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:42,006
two years before I was
even introduced to him.
523
00:19:42,093 --> 00:19:43,921
What year did
you guys get introduced?
524
00:19:44,008 --> 00:19:45,532
- Why?
- I'm just wondering.
525
00:19:45,619 --> 00:19:46,794
- No.
- W at year did you get married?
526
00:19:46,837 --> 00:19:48,143
When's your anniversary?
527
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:49,057
How long have you been
with Brian? How long
528
00:19:49,231 --> 00:19:50,624
have you been with Brian?
- Why?
529
00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:51,886
Why can't you answer
when your anniversary is?
530
00:19:51,973 --> 00:19:53,757
We met in 2013.
531
00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:56,064
Okay. And what year
was Brian divorced?
532
00:19:56,107 --> 00:19:57,326
2010.
533
00:19:57,370 --> 00:19:58,458
And what year
did you get married?
534
00:19:58,545 --> 00:19:59,676
- 2016.
- 2016. Okay.
535
00:19:59,763 --> 00:20:02,288
Yeah. Why are you asking
these questions?
536
00:20:02,331 --> 00:20:03,898
Well, I'm just--I'm curious,
because you said
537
00:20:03,941 --> 00:20:06,553
they got divorced in 2010, right?
538
00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:10,948
But they didn't get divorced in
2010. They got divorced in 2016.
539
00:20:11,035 --> 00:20:13,560
Jo-Ellen. Jo-Ellen.
He has the divorce document.
540
00:20:13,647 --> 00:20:16,911
- So do I. So do I.
- Don't even try to go there,
541
00:20:16,954 --> 00:20:18,304
Jo-Ellen. Jo-Ellen...
- Because he got divorced
542
00:20:18,478 --> 00:20:20,523
in March of 2016.
- So when was your anniversary?
543
00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:22,046
- Jo-Ellen.
- What was the date?
544
00:20:22,177 --> 00:20:23,874
- Jo-Ellen.
- What's the date?
545
00:20:24,005 --> 00:20:26,050
- Ask Brian when he comes.
- You can't say your anniversary?
546
00:20:26,181 --> 00:20:28,139
- That's none of your business.
- When's your anniversary?
547
00:20:28,183 --> 00:20:30,185
- What's the accusation?
- Are they married?
548
00:20:32,753 --> 00:20:33,928
Oh, you don't think
they're married.
549
00:20:34,015 --> 00:20:35,495
- Oh, my God.
- I don't know if they are.
550
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:36,626
- All right, Jo-Ellen--
- I don't know if they are.
551
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:37,758
I'm asking you,
when is your anniversary?
552
00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:39,150
- Is she serious right now?
- I have no idea.
553
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,151
This is the first time
I've heard this, so I'm trying--
554
00:20:40,195 --> 00:20:41,109
I'm just asking,
when's her anniversary?
555
00:20:41,283 --> 00:20:42,415
- Are we married?
- Why is that so hard?
556
00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,025
You don't--Do you guys know
your anniversary?
557
00:20:44,112 --> 00:20:46,419
Mine's July 30th. I don't know
why that's a hard question.
558
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:48,725
Rulla, are you legally married?
559
00:20:48,769 --> 00:20:50,814
I am 100% legally married.
560
00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:52,294
And you can't say the date
that you got married?
561
00:20:52,425 --> 00:20:53,687
- That's none of your business.
- Okay.
562
00:20:53,730 --> 00:20:55,166
When you got pregnant,
was Brian still legally married?
563
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:58,257
- No.
- Yes, he was.
564
00:20:58,300 --> 00:20:59,301
No, that's not the truth,
Jo-Ellen.
565
00:20:59,388 --> 00:21:00,650
Oh, I have proof.
566
00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:03,392
Who the [bleep] are you?
You're a psychopath!
567
00:21:03,436 --> 00:21:06,700
- I know. Thank you.
- Oh, here we go.
568
00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:08,310
I had a baby out of wedlock.
It's not a big deal.
569
00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:10,530
- Jo-Ellen.
- Rulla, when's your wedding?
570
00:21:10,573 --> 00:21:11,922
Oh, dear God.
571
00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:13,663
Why are you going there,
Jo-Ellen?
572
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:15,578
Rulla, I'm asking you
a simple question.
573
00:21:15,622 --> 00:21:20,322
We have been married
for nine and a half, 10 years.
574
00:21:20,453 --> 00:21:22,150
Really? Then Brian
is a polygamist
575
00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:23,673
because he must have been
married to you
576
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,197
and the Spanish teacher
at the same time.
577
00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:40,647
We have been married
for nine and a half, 10 years.
578
00:21:40,777 --> 00:21:42,344
Really? Then Brian
is a polygamist
579
00:21:42,475 --> 00:21:43,954
because he must have been
married to you
580
00:21:44,041 --> 00:21:45,565
and the Spanish teacher
at the same time. It's so weird.
581
00:21:45,608 --> 00:21:46,783
Well, this is news to my ears,
582
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:49,351
so why don't you go ahead
and show us?
583
00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:51,005
- He got divorced March of 2016.
- Oh, my God.
584
00:21:51,092 --> 00:21:53,747
- You got pregnant in February.
- Let's see it.
585
00:21:53,877 --> 00:21:56,619
- All right, here we go.
- What site are you on?
586
00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,795
JO-ELLEN: This is CourtConnect.
This is Rhode Island law.
587
00:21:58,882 --> 00:22:01,232
- Let me see.
- Okay, here.
588
00:22:01,276 --> 00:22:02,756
Maybe it's wrong.
589
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,279
It's court documents.
590
00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:06,237
This doesn't tell me anything.
591
00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:09,023
So it says filed on 7/7/2011,
Jo-Ellen.
592
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:10,154
And when does it say it closed,
Rulla?
593
00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:12,418
When does the divorce finalize?
594
00:22:12,461 --> 00:22:15,029
- 3/24/16.
- Ask him. Go ahead and ask him.
595
00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:16,900
- The courts don't lie.
- Ask him.
596
00:22:16,987 --> 00:22:20,251
I think it's interesting.
He has lied to you before,
597
00:22:20,295 --> 00:22:23,603
so is it possible that he lied
to you about these dates?
598
00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:25,300
I have no idea. Ask him.
599
00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:27,084
This is the first I'm hearing
any of this, so...
600
00:22:27,171 --> 00:22:31,698
If it is true,
will you be upset?
601
00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:35,789
How would you guys be married?
602
00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:41,229
Because, Jo-Ellen,
we get blessed by the priest,
603
00:22:41,272 --> 00:22:42,361
and then we do it.
604
00:22:42,491 --> 00:22:45,451
But I think
that's, like, normal.
605
00:22:45,494 --> 00:22:47,278
It's--It's--
This is none of your business.
606
00:22:47,322 --> 00:22:48,932
I was just asking
when your anniversary is.
607
00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:50,673
I know it's difficult
to talk about.
608
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,805
- You called me a liar.
- But it's none of your business.
609
00:22:51,892 --> 00:22:53,415
You called me a liar.
610
00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:54,416
- I'm not a liar.
- Because you do lie, Jo-Ellen.
611
00:22:54,503 --> 00:22:55,852
I tell the truth
every single time.
612
00:22:55,939 --> 00:22:57,550
You know who you are, and you
know what you have done.
613
00:22:57,637 --> 00:22:58,812
- You've got rap sheets.
- Rulla, did you get pregnant
614
00:22:58,899 --> 00:23:00,422
while Brian was still married
to his wife?
615
00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:01,945
- No, Jo-Ellen.
- Really? Because--
616
00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:04,252
Unless he lied to me.
No, Jo-Ellen.
617
00:23:04,295 --> 00:23:06,559
- Okay. Okay.
- He was living on his own.
618
00:23:06,689 --> 00:23:07,777
Fine. The divorces take a while.
619
00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:11,172
- Ask him.
- All right. Hold that thought.
620
00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:13,000
The men of "Rhode Island"
are gonna join us.
621
00:23:13,087 --> 00:23:15,219
Don't go anywhere.
622
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:18,266
We're taking a 5-minute break.
623
00:23:18,309 --> 00:23:19,572
Hey, this is
Gary reporting live.
624
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,054
Just one more tack just here
it doesn't get snagged.
625
00:23:24,141 --> 00:23:25,578
You guys feeling good
going into it?
626
00:23:25,665 --> 00:23:27,057
- I'm all right.
- Good, man. How about you?
627
00:23:27,144 --> 00:23:28,145
- I feel good. I'm ready.
- I'm getting a little nervous.
628
00:23:28,189 --> 00:23:29,756
Looks like you're ready
for a mint julep.
629
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:31,410
- Who does?
- He takes the fire off of us.
630
00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,195
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
631
00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:35,675
- Perfect.
- Perfect. Thank you.
632
00:23:35,718 --> 00:23:37,807
- Thank you so much, Jared.
- Thank you. I appreciate it.
633
00:23:37,851 --> 00:23:39,635
I love your dress.
634
00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:41,811
- Hi, Bill.
- Good to see you guys.
635
00:23:41,942 --> 00:23:43,291
You're all
the way at the top there.
636
00:23:43,378 --> 00:23:45,728
- Okay.
- Thank you.
637
00:23:45,815 --> 00:23:48,644
Pack? His pack?
638
00:23:50,298 --> 00:23:51,952
Everyone's looking at his pack.
639
00:23:54,128 --> 00:23:55,869
Wipe your lips.
640
00:23:55,956 --> 00:23:57,697
Ashley, how you doing?
641
00:23:57,784 --> 00:23:59,655
- Hi.
- Well, you look beautiful.
642
00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:02,049
- Hi, honey. Mwah.
- Gerry, is that Armani?
643
00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:03,442
- Wow.
- He looks fantastic.
644
00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:04,834
You guys look beautiful.
I'd kiss everyone,
645
00:24:04,965 --> 00:24:06,314
but I won't mess
anyone's makeup on.
646
00:24:06,401 --> 00:24:08,708
- I----ing stink.
- No, you don't.
647
00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:10,797
- No, I do. Then--
- That's mine. Then you do.
648
00:24:10,884 --> 00:24:12,668
- Hi, boys.
- Beautiful.
649
00:24:12,712 --> 00:24:14,540
- I love that dress.
- Oh, shut up, Billy.
650
00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:18,282
You look good, babe. Beautiful.
651
00:24:19,806 --> 00:24:22,286
JO-ELLEN: We were just
screaming at each other.
652
00:24:22,373 --> 00:24:23,462
I was like,
"When's your anniversary?"
653
00:24:23,592 --> 00:24:25,159
She's like,
"I'm not telling you."
654
00:24:25,202 --> 00:24:27,901
Have fun. Get ready.
655
00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:30,860
What a production.
656
00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:33,907
Okay. I'm situated.
657
00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,561
3...2...
658
00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:37,911
Welcome back.
659
00:24:38,041 --> 00:24:41,697
We are joined by the husbands,
boyfriends, and fiancés
660
00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:43,569
of "Rhode Island"--
661
00:24:43,612 --> 00:24:49,444
Jared, Rich, Brian, Gerry,
Billy, Gary, and Bill.
662
00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:50,924
- Hey, guys.
- How you doing, Andy?
663
00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:54,318
- How we doing?
- Gerry, mazel on the grandbaby.
664
00:24:54,362 --> 00:24:55,842
- Thank you.
- Very exciting.
665
00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:57,452
Bill, are you picking, uh,
666
00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,367
the lemon seeds out
for Kelsey now?
667
00:24:59,410 --> 00:25:02,675
- Every single one of 'em.
- Wow, that's a man.
668
00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:04,720
Billy, how's
the pizza business going?
669
00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:07,157
- Good.
- Brian, how's the bunion biz?
670
00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:10,160
Bunion business is great.
Staying a step ahead, you know?
671
00:25:11,858 --> 00:25:14,121
Rich, how are
Sinatra Sundays going?
672
00:25:14,208 --> 00:25:15,862
- We added a second show.
- All right. Really?
673
00:25:15,949 --> 00:25:17,211
Yeah. Yeah.
674
00:25:17,254 --> 00:25:19,126
Jared, did you fix
the ice machine yet?
675
00:25:19,256 --> 00:25:21,215
Oh.
676
00:25:21,258 --> 00:25:24,566
The ice machine's
not working again? [bleep] me.
677
00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:26,960
- How's the ice machine?
- I called the mechanic,
678
00:25:27,047 --> 00:25:28,483
and he's just
a little backed up right now.
679
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,964
You know what's funny is
that the guy who manufactured it
680
00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:33,183
reached out to me and was like,
"I wanna fix it for you."
681
00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:36,535
He was very nice about it,
but ice machine's working great.
682
00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:39,755
Gary, you got a lot of play
683
00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:42,105
for going shirtless
in the sauna.
684
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:45,152
I think it's the dad bod.
Dad bods are in right now, so...
685
00:25:45,239 --> 00:25:47,502
Lizzie in Delaware said,
"Gary and Jo-Ellen,
686
00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:49,417
can you straighten out
your timeline for us?
687
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:52,725
First comes Jen,
then comes Jo-Ellen.
688
00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:55,728
How far after Jen did you
and Jo-Ellen start dating?"
689
00:25:55,815 --> 00:25:58,078
I think it was during
high school that I met Jo-Ellen.
690
00:25:58,121 --> 00:25:59,819
And then after high school that
we started getting together,
691
00:25:59,862 --> 00:26:01,342
and I definitely knew Jen first.
692
00:26:01,472 --> 00:26:03,562
We were in all our classes
together in high school,
693
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:04,954
became really good friends,
694
00:26:04,998 --> 00:26:08,262
best friends, actually,
for a guy and a girl, um,
695
00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:09,959
that didn't sleep together,
might I add.
696
00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:12,527
You know, Jen was always
kind of around as a friend,
697
00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:15,138
but obviously turned
to the younger sister.
698
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:17,663
Would you ever
donate your sperm to Jen?
699
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,926
- I would not donate my sperm.
- Thank you.
700
00:26:20,056 --> 00:26:21,710
- Why not, Gary?
- No, Alicia!
701
00:26:21,754 --> 00:26:23,451
No, I would not donate.
702
00:26:23,494 --> 00:26:24,931
No deposits being made
over here.
703
00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:27,281
But you did touch her boobs
in seventh grade.
704
00:26:27,324 --> 00:26:29,805
I did get a nice fistful
of boob in seventh grade.
705
00:26:32,112 --> 00:26:34,027
Kelsey, now that
you're only with Bill,
706
00:26:34,114 --> 00:26:37,683
is there a timeline
for weddings and babies?
707
00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:41,077
Um... no. I feel like life's
just getting exciting now.
708
00:26:41,164 --> 00:26:47,344
So, like, I think for him, when
I--when I say go, he'll drop.
709
00:26:47,431 --> 00:26:49,303
Right?
710
00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:50,957
- Absolutely.
- Drop.
711
00:26:51,087 --> 00:26:52,567
- Explain drop.
- You're ready to go.
712
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:54,787
He'll drop on one knee
and propose.
713
00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:56,092
Yeah. I thought he'd drop
your shorts.
714
00:26:56,179 --> 00:26:57,224
I thought you meant
drop the sperm.
715
00:26:57,311 --> 00:26:58,747
- Oh.
- Oh, God.
716
00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:00,227
- That, too.
- Okay.
717
00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:03,273
So, Bill, in the show,
you said you waited a year
718
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,147
to have sex while she was
still sleeping with the ex.
719
00:27:07,234 --> 00:27:09,845
- Yeah, pretty much.
- He doesn't want to admit it.
720
00:27:09,932 --> 00:27:11,107
Yeah, no,
I don't wanna admit that.
721
00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:12,718
It's a lot of, uh,
a lot of alone time.
722
00:27:12,761 --> 00:27:13,849
These hands got a lot of work.
723
00:27:16,504 --> 00:27:17,897
Okay.
724
00:27:18,027 --> 00:27:21,161
That's graphic.
Kelsey, there was some question
725
00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,120
relating to the timeline
of your breakup
726
00:27:24,207 --> 00:27:26,993
as it related
to production of the show.
727
00:27:27,123 --> 00:27:28,647
You two were actually at odds
728
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:30,823
for, like, a year.
Is that right?
729
00:27:30,953 --> 00:27:33,347
Yeah. There have been times
where I've broken up with him
730
00:27:33,477 --> 00:27:35,131
two, three times in one year.
731
00:27:35,218 --> 00:27:37,351
I didn't sleep at the house.
I did sleep at the house.
732
00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:38,874
You know, people would
see me out with Bill,
733
00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:41,529
and they wouldn't
even know I was with [bleep].
734
00:27:41,616 --> 00:27:43,705
I mean, I get it.
My relationship's very complex
735
00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:45,707
for a lot of people
to understand.
736
00:27:45,794 --> 00:27:48,841
Gerry, on the show,
we heard from Liz that Dino
737
00:27:48,884 --> 00:27:52,192
is a good friend of yours
as well.
738
00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:55,151
The rumors
are about Dino and me--
739
00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:57,458
like, we had
this torrid affair.
740
00:27:57,501 --> 00:28:00,548
It's a mortifying accusation.
741
00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:02,724
How were
you affected by the rumors
742
00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:04,639
of Liz and Dino's--
743
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,772
Not affected.
We're great friends.
744
00:28:06,815 --> 00:28:10,471
And he's become more famous
than us, I think.
745
00:28:12,865 --> 00:28:15,432
Gerry, uh, earlier today,
Liz said that when
746
00:28:15,476 --> 00:28:19,045
you and she were separated,
Rulla and Brian called you
747
00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:22,091
and told you that Liz
was with another man.
748
00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:24,790
I went to Block Island
with my girlfriend and, um,
749
00:28:24,833 --> 00:28:28,402
met up with someone I hadn't
seen in, like, 30 years.
750
00:28:28,489 --> 00:28:31,318
The next day, Gerry got
a phone call at 6 a.m.,
751
00:28:31,361 --> 00:28:33,059
and it was Rulla and Brian.
752
00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:36,149
Rulla said she did not call you.
753
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:39,456
Did Rulla and Brian call you?
Who called you?
754
00:28:39,543 --> 00:28:40,806
No, a friend of ours
called me...
755
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:43,504
- Thank God.
- ...and put you on the phone.
756
00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:45,332
- Oh.
- Wait, what?
757
00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:46,855
- Okay. No, friend of yours...
- I'm like...
758
00:28:46,942 --> 00:28:48,291
...called and put Brian
on the phone?
759
00:28:48,335 --> 00:28:49,684
- Yes.
- Okay.
760
00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,999
Gerry, earlier today,
761
00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:02,392
Liz said that when
you and she were separated,
762
00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:04,786
Rulla and Brian called you
763
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:07,658
and told you that Liz
was with another man.
764
00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:10,705
Rulla said she did not call you.
765
00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:13,142
Did Rulla and Brian call you?
Who called you?
766
00:29:13,186 --> 00:29:15,449
- No, a friend of ours called me.
- Thank God.
767
00:29:15,492 --> 00:29:17,668
- And put you on the phone.
- Yeah.
768
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,845
- Yeah.
- Wait, what?
769
00:29:19,888 --> 00:29:21,281
- Okay, no, friend of yours...
- I'm like...
770
00:29:21,368 --> 00:29:22,064
...called and put Brian
on the phone?
771
00:29:22,238 --> 00:29:24,110
- Yes.
- Okay.
772
00:29:25,894 --> 00:29:27,766
So Brian was on the phone,
and did Brian--
773
00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:29,202
Brian was on the phone with me.
774
00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:33,641
And did Brian tell you
that Liz was with another man?
775
00:29:33,728 --> 00:29:35,774
She was dancing
with another man, yes.
776
00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:37,123
Okay.
777
00:29:37,210 --> 00:29:38,515
- I didn't know who he was.
- Okay. I didn't know
778
00:29:38,646 --> 00:29:39,908
any of this,
just so you guys know.
779
00:29:39,952 --> 00:29:42,345
A friend kept saying--He goes,
780
00:29:42,476 --> 00:29:43,782
"Look, I'll put him
on the phone."
781
00:29:43,869 --> 00:29:44,913
- And he put you on the phone.
- Oh. He's like, hey--
782
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,567
he asked me the question,
I think.
783
00:29:46,654 --> 00:29:48,090
And I said, I think so. I didn't
even know he was talking to you.
784
00:29:48,134 --> 00:29:52,051
I just wanted--thank you, both,
because that was the objective.
785
00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:54,183
Did you do it so that it
would get back to him?
786
00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:56,185
We were separated.
787
00:29:56,229 --> 00:29:57,708
All his friends
were around me all night.
788
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:58,840
Yeah, of course.
789
00:29:58,971 --> 00:30:00,537
We certainly didn't try
to hide it.
790
00:30:00,581 --> 00:30:03,279
Billy, congratulations
on your re-proposal.
791
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:06,413
All right. Alicia,
792
00:30:06,543 --> 00:30:08,937
will you do the honor
of marrying me again?
793
00:30:09,111 --> 00:30:10,591
Would I do the honor?
794
00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:12,332
Well, will you marry me again?
795
00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:14,160
- I would, yes.
- I mean, come on!
796
00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:15,552
Have you amended the prenup?
797
00:30:17,424 --> 00:30:18,642
Great question.
798
00:30:18,729 --> 00:30:21,428
That was a quite loud,
nervous laugh
799
00:30:21,471 --> 00:30:23,517
that you just let out.
800
00:30:25,127 --> 00:30:27,913
Um... it's a touchy subject.
801
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,306
I mean, look, that was,
I think, eight years ago.
802
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:32,918
I wish
I'd handled it differently.
803
00:30:33,005 --> 00:30:35,007
- And, um...
- Do you?
804
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:36,399
- I do, actually.
- I like that.
805
00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:38,575
- Okay, that's growth.
- How do you wish you handled it?
806
00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:41,578
Well, I think because
I was an attorney,
807
00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:43,798
I sent a one-sided agreement
808
00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:46,279
so her attorney wouldn't spend
money drafting an agreement.
809
00:30:46,366 --> 00:30:49,325
And I literally said
in the email to her attorney,
810
00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:52,067
"This is just a draft.
Just tell us what Alicia needs
811
00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:54,809
to be comfortable, uh,
moving forward."
812
00:30:54,896 --> 00:30:56,376
- Yeah.
- And her attorney did.
813
00:30:56,550 --> 00:30:58,465
And I had gotten
an attorney as well.
814
00:30:58,595 --> 00:31:00,771
And we pretty much agreed
to almost everything
815
00:31:00,815 --> 00:31:03,557
she asked for,
but I think she was so upset
816
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,559
from the initial way
that it came off to her--
817
00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:07,300
Because I'm not a lawyer, and I
818
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:08,997
was mad that I had to do that.
- But I told her.
819
00:31:09,041 --> 00:31:11,260
What was your job before
you got in the food business?
820
00:31:11,347 --> 00:31:13,393
I was always in the food
business 'cause of my family.
821
00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:15,134
But I was
a corporate M&A attorney.
822
00:31:15,264 --> 00:31:18,180
So you're savvier
than the average pizza guy?
823
00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:19,790
- Oh, yeah.
- Sometimes.
824
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:22,402
- To say the least.
- I asked her about the house.
825
00:31:22,532 --> 00:31:24,839
- She said it's in a trust?
- Yes.
826
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:28,060
But that she doesn't fully
know what that means.
827
00:31:28,234 --> 00:31:29,975
Correct. She can just
come with me
828
00:31:30,018 --> 00:31:31,846
to the estate attorney
and go through it.
829
00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:33,717
It's so boring.
I just want a quick answer.
830
00:31:35,067 --> 00:31:38,984
Are you sensitive
to her feelings of
831
00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:44,250
not being a full enough
participant in your finances?
832
00:31:44,293 --> 00:31:47,079
Yeah, I actually
have consistently
833
00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,342
and persistently recommended
monthly meetings
834
00:31:49,429 --> 00:31:51,605
to go over our finances, and--
835
00:31:51,648 --> 00:31:53,389
Alicia?
836
00:31:53,476 --> 00:31:54,434
A meeting?
837
00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:01,093
Billy, I'm... starting
to sympathize with you.
838
00:32:02,442 --> 00:32:05,140
The money talk--
my brain shuts down.
839
00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:07,882
That's what he's for.
We talked earlier.
840
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:12,017
Sounds like she went back
on driving Celina to dance.
841
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:14,149
- Yes.
- How's that going?
842
00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:17,109
Um, well, I'd be willing
to give Alicia more
843
00:32:17,196 --> 00:32:20,721
if she just drives Celina
to or from dance.
844
00:32:20,808 --> 00:32:22,462
- Okay.
- So with that said, Alicia,
845
00:32:22,592 --> 00:32:24,246
I have something here for you.
846
00:32:24,333 --> 00:32:25,987
Oh, please. What?
847
00:32:26,074 --> 00:32:27,946
- Oh.
- Ooh.
848
00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:30,078
Oh, God.
It's an updated prenup.
849
00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:31,514
- What do you got?
- I got a little agreement.
850
00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:33,864
"Billy gives to Alicia
in exchange for..."
851
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:36,693
You're shaking.
852
00:32:36,737 --> 00:32:39,305
- ...of Pizza Mamma.
- Aw!
853
00:32:39,348 --> 00:32:41,089
There's some obligations
that you have to fulfill
854
00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:43,265
in the agreement,
um, with respect
855
00:32:43,352 --> 00:32:45,267
to dance transport, so...
856
00:32:45,311 --> 00:32:48,923
- Does my mom count?
- But just once or twice a week.
857
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,403
He's giving you 50%
of the shares of the thing...
858
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:52,057
- Alicia.
- ...for driving.
859
00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:54,711
- I wouldn't even want 50, Billy.
- You don't want half?
860
00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:55,756
- No.
- He's giving you half.
861
00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:57,192
- Take it.
- Look it...
862
00:32:57,236 --> 00:32:59,499
Does the cast think
she should sign it?
863
00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:00,804
Yeah, sign it.
864
00:33:00,891 --> 00:33:02,284
- Sign it, sign it.
- Hey, Billy.
865
00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:03,372
- I kind of feel bad, Billy.
- It's a milestone for you.
866
00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:05,635
I mean, she should
maybe read it first.
867
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:08,160
We've had a Housewife who didn't
read documents that her husband
868
00:33:08,247 --> 00:33:10,727
gave her before,
and it didn't go great.
869
00:33:10,771 --> 00:33:12,338
I would read it,
but I don't wanna be liable.
870
00:33:12,381 --> 00:33:13,687
"I don't wanna be liable."
871
00:33:13,774 --> 00:33:15,123
Right? Yeah.
872
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:16,820
- Alicia, congratulations.
- Yes.
873
00:33:16,951 --> 00:33:19,388
- Yeah.
- I know. Thank you.
874
00:33:19,432 --> 00:33:21,608
- Honestly, Billy, thank you.
- You're welcome.
875
00:33:21,695 --> 00:33:25,568
Okay, last but not least, Brian,
how are you feeling tonight?
876
00:33:25,742 --> 00:33:27,744
- Feeling great. You know?
- You feel great.
877
00:33:27,788 --> 00:33:29,790
You know, sometimes,
Andy, you have to hit
878
00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:31,835
rock bottom before the Lord
can bring you back up.
879
00:33:31,966 --> 00:33:36,971
You know, some would argue
that going on a reality show
880
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:42,977
while an affair is in progress
or towards the end
881
00:33:43,064 --> 00:33:46,589
would be... risky at best.
882
00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:48,896
Did you think...
883
00:33:48,939 --> 00:33:50,811
"Oh, well,
this is gonna come out"?
884
00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:53,379
Well, unfortunately, Andy,
because of legal reasons,
885
00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:54,858
I can't really comment
too well on that.
886
00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:57,165
What are the legal reasons?
887
00:33:57,252 --> 00:34:00,951
Well, you know, I'm bound by
a nondisclosure agreement, so...
888
00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:02,736
You were in a lawsuit
with this person.
889
00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:04,303
And what is the nature
of the lawsuit?
890
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:05,565
I don't think you can
speak to that, can you?
891
00:34:05,739 --> 00:34:06,957
Yeah, can't really speak
to that.
892
00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:08,437
You can't speak
to what the lawsuit is?
893
00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:10,396
- I mean, that's ridiculous.
- I can speak to it.
894
00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:12,137
- Okay.
- He opened the business.
895
00:34:12,224 --> 00:34:13,877
He made this individual
896
00:34:13,964 --> 00:34:16,924
and another individual
part owners...
897
00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:19,100
to keep them engaged.
- Keep her engaged.
898
00:34:19,231 --> 00:34:20,841
And this is
before anything was going on.
899
00:34:20,928 --> 00:34:21,972
- Okay.
- Okay? Let's be clear.
900
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:23,148
Did you know that
he made her a part owner?
901
00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:24,584
- He told me.
- Okay.
902
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:25,802
I wasn't thrilled.
903
00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:28,283
And so yada, yada, yada,
fast forward,
904
00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,546
they gave up their shares
back to him.
905
00:34:30,633 --> 00:34:32,766
- What am I forgetting?
- A lot.
906
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:34,115
- He can't say.
- This was years ago?
907
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,595
One individual ended up
suing Brian--
908
00:34:35,682 --> 00:34:37,684
she was a nurse practitioner--
for some funds.
909
00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:40,165
- And then Brian ended up suing--
- I can--this is our--
910
00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:41,775
Go ahead. Say it then. You said,
"What am I forgetting?"
911
00:34:41,818 --> 00:34:43,472
- I was helping you.
- Not everybody makes it
912
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,126
their business to go poking
in other people's business.
913
00:34:45,257 --> 00:34:46,910
I do. I have nothing better
to do.
914
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:48,651
- I'm unemployed. Thanks, Brian.
- On "Watch What Happens Live,"
915
00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:50,175
you said that...
- No, Jo-Ellen, don't accuse.
916
00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:51,089
- That's not why.
- "You're gonna hurt her..."
917
00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:52,612
'Cause you used
your company card
918
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:54,048
for things
that you can't afford.
919
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,442
- What are you talking about?
- Okay, so the business.
920
00:34:56,529 --> 00:34:58,531
- Yeah. So the lawsuit happened.
- Okay.
921
00:34:58,574 --> 00:35:00,446
They all had to sign an NDA.
922
00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:06,887
Okay, I wanna switch gears.
Let's go to the polo match.
923
00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:08,628
Oh, no. What happened?
924
00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:11,021
- Oh, boy.
- I think I should put heels on.
925
00:35:11,065 --> 00:35:13,589
All right, you're gonna call
an ambulance or...
926
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,417
...so we could have seen
eye to eye.
927
00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:18,899
His mom is heading to
the hospital, so we have to go.
928
00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:22,424
Brian, there's a theory online
your mom wasn't sick.
929
00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:24,905
The phone call came
from the mistress
930
00:35:24,948 --> 00:35:26,776
threatening to show up.
931
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:29,388
So you went to calm her down,
932
00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:32,521
and then you came back
to polo with Rulla.
933
00:35:33,957 --> 00:35:35,655
Oh, Brian and Rulla are here.
934
00:35:35,698 --> 00:35:38,832
And then she posted
the picture in the car.
935
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,705
The mistress just posted
in his red interior car.
936
00:35:42,836 --> 00:35:44,359
I'll speak
to the facts of that day.
937
00:35:44,403 --> 00:35:46,100
We left Angelo's,
which is in Cumberland.
938
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:48,624
We drove to Lincoln.
I dropped her off at home
939
00:35:48,755 --> 00:35:50,626
because she said, "If we go
by your parents' house..."
940
00:35:50,713 --> 00:35:52,454
My in-laws were watching
the kids.
941
00:35:52,498 --> 00:35:54,543
She said, "If the kids
see me and everything's okay,
942
00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:55,414
you know,
they're gonna wanna come home."
943
00:35:55,457 --> 00:35:57,677
I wanted to go back to polo.
944
00:35:57,764 --> 00:35:59,592
I went to my house
'cause when the kids see me,
945
00:35:59,635 --> 00:36:01,985
maybe unlike yours,
mine are very attached to me.
946
00:36:02,116 --> 00:36:03,900
- Wow.
- If they were to see me,
947
00:36:04,031 --> 00:36:05,859
they would be crying.
They would.
948
00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:07,774
- Yeah.
- I get it. Did you believe
949
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:11,125
that Brian was going
to the hospital at that time?
950
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:13,519
No one ever said that he was
going to the hospital.
951
00:36:13,562 --> 00:36:15,303
His mom is
heading to the hospital,
952
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:17,000
so we have to go.
953
00:36:17,044 --> 00:36:18,437
My mother-in-law did not end up
being taken to the hospital.
954
00:36:18,567 --> 00:36:20,787
So where did he go if
he didn't go to the hospital?
955
00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:23,181
My parents live two
and a half miles from our house.
956
00:36:23,268 --> 00:36:26,140
Are you with Brian now,
or no, he's at the hospital?
957
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:28,795
He's not here right now.
He's with his mom and dad.
958
00:36:28,838 --> 00:36:30,666
My parents live in Lincoln.
I'm surprised you haven't
959
00:36:30,797 --> 00:36:31,928
done the research on this.
- No, I know that, of course.
960
00:36:32,015 --> 00:36:33,234
sleeps there.
961
00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:35,628
Didn't your dad find
her underwear in the bed?
962
00:36:35,715 --> 00:36:37,717
- What are you talking about?
- Oh, I have the text of that.
963
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,805
- Jo-Ellen, no need.
- Um--
964
00:36:38,848 --> 00:36:40,372
- Anyway...
- Andy, I'm not--
965
00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:42,069
- Andy, so--
- You can talk about my kids.
966
00:36:42,156 --> 00:36:43,853
I can't talk about dirty panties
in his dad's bed?
967
00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:45,507
- Okay.
- How many dirty panties have
968
00:36:45,551 --> 00:36:46,943
you left in other men's beds?
969
00:36:46,987 --> 00:36:48,380
- Uh, none.
- Sorry, Gary.
970
00:36:50,425 --> 00:36:52,210
Brian says your butt smells
like garlic, just so you know.
971
00:36:52,253 --> 00:36:55,125
He tells everyone.
972
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:56,953
- I don't even eat garlic.
- Just so you know.
973
00:36:57,127 --> 00:36:58,128
- Hold on.
- Nobody's cleaner than you.
974
00:36:58,172 --> 00:36:59,652
- Butts do smell--
- I don't even eat garlic.
975
00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:01,393
- Like garlic.
- Well, I mean, butts smell.
976
00:37:01,436 --> 00:37:02,916
- I don't eat--
- No, butts smell.
977
00:37:03,003 --> 00:37:04,700
- Do they smell like garlic?
- What is going on?
978
00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,572
I've now heard everything.
979
00:37:10,837 --> 00:37:12,317
That's not even funny,
though, Alicia.
980
00:37:12,447 --> 00:37:14,319
- That's ridiculous.
- Okay. All right.
981
00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:17,539
In any event, I went home,
and that day,
982
00:37:17,626 --> 00:37:21,413
I had my black Hummer all day.
I didn't have my other car...
983
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:22,892
- He was in the black car.
- ...the Porsche that had
984
00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:25,765
a red interior, which I know
a lot of cars do come with that.
985
00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:27,680
So what happens is I go home,
986
00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:28,855
and then she's like,
"We're going to polo."
987
00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:31,640
And I re-gelled my hair.
It was a very hot day.
988
00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:33,860
And the wedding ring is
right in my cup holder.
989
00:37:33,903 --> 00:37:37,124
I thought you took your ring off
to do your son's hair.
990
00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:38,691
Where's your----ing
wedding ring?
991
00:37:38,821 --> 00:37:40,562
Well, actually, mine--
Where's my wedding ring?
992
00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:41,911
- Mine's in my car.
- And where's your wedding ring?
993
00:37:42,085 --> 00:37:44,349
Mine's in my car, 'cause I just
put gel in my son's hair.
994
00:37:44,392 --> 00:37:46,525
Yeah, well, I took it off
at my parents' house.
995
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:48,483
It was in my pocket.
We went back to my house,
996
00:37:48,527 --> 00:37:50,833
did my hair, and you know,
so that was it.
997
00:37:50,964 --> 00:37:51,878
But I mean,
it's a preposterous thing
998
00:37:52,052 --> 00:37:53,532
to keep--keep harping on.
999
00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:56,665
Jo-Ellen, I'm assuming you're
gonna pull out something.
1000
00:37:56,796 --> 00:37:58,885
Thank you, Andy.
I was.
1001
00:37:58,972 --> 00:38:00,495
So the picture that she posted
1002
00:38:00,626 --> 00:38:03,368
of that, uh, Chanel bag
in your red car...
1003
00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:08,634
All right. [gasps] Liz!
1004
00:38:08,677 --> 00:38:11,724
You liked it,
you----ing idiot.
1005
00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:13,900
Now, just out of curiosity,
1006
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:18,818
on July 17, 2025,
we were filming during then.
1007
00:38:18,861 --> 00:38:25,564
Client, Mr. Brian Pontarelli,
purchased a Chanel bag. $4,100.
1008
00:38:25,694 --> 00:38:27,827
It's the same bag. I checked.
The same style number.
1009
00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:31,570
- Okay.
- Your name, your client number.
1010
00:38:31,657 --> 00:38:33,528
Was that for Rulla,
or was that for the other one?
1011
00:38:38,272 --> 00:38:41,449
Your name, your client number.
1012
00:38:41,536 --> 00:38:43,582
Was that for Rulla,
or was that for the other one?
1013
00:38:43,712 --> 00:38:45,671
Uh, unfortunately,
for legal reasons, I can't.
1014
00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:47,150
- I can't speak about that.
- The legal reasons
1015
00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:49,718
are about your business.
It's not about purchasing a bag.
1016
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:52,025
You're a lawyer now?
You're a lawyer?
1017
00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:53,287
- He is.
- Well, there's nothing illegal
1018
00:38:53,418 --> 00:38:56,334
about you saying,
no, you didn't buy her a bag.
1019
00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:57,944
The only person I've ever bought
a Chanel bag for is my wife.
1020
00:38:58,031 --> 00:39:01,251
Is that you right there?
Is that your purse?
1021
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,471
- That's not me.
- Okay, gotcha.
1022
00:39:06,692 --> 00:39:10,260
Okay, uh,
lots to unpack here.
1023
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,262
How many of you
had heard rumors
1024
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:16,441
about Brian
before filming started?
1025
00:39:18,225 --> 00:39:20,445
- You all did?
- Gary ran into them.
1026
00:39:20,488 --> 00:39:21,576
Gary, where'd you run into them?
1027
00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:23,230
Yeah, where--
1028
00:39:23,273 --> 00:39:24,579
I was at Hemenway's
in Providence, and, um,
1029
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:27,495
I-I actually know
the mistress as well.
1030
00:39:27,539 --> 00:39:28,714
Her kids went to daycare
with our kids.
1031
00:39:28,844 --> 00:39:30,716
So I knew her
and her ex-husband,
1032
00:39:30,846 --> 00:39:33,109
and I saw them
in a restaurant,
1033
00:39:33,196 --> 00:39:34,763
and they came right up,
1034
00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:36,417
and, uh, she introduced him
as her boyfriend to me.
1035
00:39:36,548 --> 00:39:38,332
- No, that was--
- And I didn't know--
1036
00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:39,725
- Really?
- I didn't know Brian
1037
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:41,248
at the time--
- That was a--
1038
00:39:41,291 --> 00:39:42,597
So I-I didn't think anything
of it. So...
1039
00:39:42,641 --> 00:39:44,120
- How long ago?
- We were taken to Hemenway's
1040
00:39:44,251 --> 00:39:45,905
by one of our reps.
1041
00:39:45,948 --> 00:39:47,297
You know, it was a business--
business dinner.
1042
00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:48,734
She still said
it was her boyfriend.
1043
00:39:48,864 --> 00:39:49,822
What's your reaction to that?
1044
00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:53,608
I mean, obviously it doesn't
make me happy,
1045
00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:55,915
but I know that reps have
taken them to Hemenway's.
1046
00:39:56,045 --> 00:39:58,483
So I don't know. I wasn't there.
1047
00:39:58,526 --> 00:40:00,876
Earlier, Brian, Rulla said
that you got divorced
1048
00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:03,836
from the Spanish teacher
in 2010,
1049
00:40:03,879 --> 00:40:06,447
and you two married in 2016.
1050
00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:09,276
Jo-Ellen
showed us a court document
1051
00:40:09,363 --> 00:40:14,107
that showed that you didn't get
divorced until March of 2016.
1052
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:16,457
Explain to them,
'cause she just pulled this up
1053
00:40:16,588 --> 00:40:18,067
and was so adamant,
as she always is.
1054
00:40:18,154 --> 00:40:20,026
So please explain.
I don't know about this.
1055
00:40:20,156 --> 00:40:21,331
Yeah, I was divorced--
Yeah, I was divorced in--
1056
00:40:21,462 --> 00:40:25,771
I was divorced
in September of 2012.
1057
00:40:25,901 --> 00:40:27,163
And what year
was Brian divorced?
1058
00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:28,948
2010.
1059
00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:31,080
She's pulling something up...
1060
00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:32,299
I'm not sure
what the document is.
1061
00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:33,909
...and keeps making a case,
so you handle it.
1062
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,042
But, I mean, at this point,
can I ask Jo-Ellen something?
1063
00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:37,391
- Sure.
- Like, what's your point?
1064
00:40:37,522 --> 00:40:38,914
- Do you have a tissue?
- Like, what's your goal
1065
00:40:39,001 --> 00:40:40,525
and your end point of everything
that you've been doing...
1066
00:40:40,568 --> 00:40:41,787
- Thank you for asking me that.
- ...and saying and doing?
1067
00:40:41,874 --> 00:40:43,963
- I'm just curious.
- Yeah, no, um, I think that
1068
00:40:44,006 --> 00:40:47,445
my point is I continuously
was called a liar,
1069
00:40:47,575 --> 00:40:49,621
and I keep on finding lies.
1070
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:51,623
If you're a girl's girl, and you
wanna profess yourself--
1071
00:40:51,753 --> 00:40:53,146
Rulla, I'm not a girl's girl
to you anymore. Get it straight.
1072
00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:54,756
Okay, well, you were though,
right? We were talking
1073
00:40:54,843 --> 00:40:56,497
about last season, right?
- I was, until you kept on--
1074
00:40:56,628 --> 00:40:57,933
- You called my job.
- You know what?
1075
00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:59,108
And you told me
that I lied 50 times.
1076
00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:00,327
I didn't call your job.
Correct yourself.
1077
00:41:00,370 --> 00:41:01,720
She was being called a liar
the whole time,
1078
00:41:01,850 --> 00:41:03,809
and she wants to prove
that she wasn't a liar.
1079
00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:06,072
She'll take it to the grave.
That's how she is.
1080
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:09,379
She's not gonna be called a liar
when she has facts of the truth.
1081
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:14,515
You know, the court documents
don't lie that you had this case
1082
00:41:14,646 --> 00:41:16,865
going on and on and on
and on and on,
1083
00:41:16,909 --> 00:41:21,653
and you didn't get divorced
until March of 2016.
1084
00:41:21,783 --> 00:41:23,829
You guys are lying. I mean,
there's--it's on the internet.
1085
00:41:23,959 --> 00:41:26,005
I'm not lying about anything,
Jo-Ellen. I took his word.
1086
00:41:26,048 --> 00:41:27,963
We obviously have
gotten married again.
1087
00:41:28,007 --> 00:41:29,269
He wouldn't be able to get
married if he weren't divorced.
1088
00:41:29,399 --> 00:41:30,923
- Of course. Right.
- I agree.
1089
00:41:31,053 --> 00:41:32,490
Let's move on.
1090
00:41:32,577 --> 00:41:40,541
Rulla, going on a reality show
when your husband is...
1091
00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:42,891
in the midst
or ending an affair
1092
00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:47,809
seems like you're potentially
putting yourself...
1093
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:50,029
through something.
1094
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,553
What was your mindset?
1095
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,209
Yeah, so I thought
it had ended at that point.
1096
00:41:56,252 --> 00:41:59,299
You know, he promised everything
was done at that time.
1097
00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:01,388
- When did it end?
- It doesn't matter, Jo-Ellen.
1098
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:02,955
- It's just done.
- Brian, could you just
1099
00:42:02,998 --> 00:42:04,870
tell us when it ended.
- JO-ELLEN: You said all summer
1100
00:42:04,957 --> 00:42:06,306
that I was lying.
- And then we can put it--
1101
00:42:06,436 --> 00:42:07,699
- She's not gonna stop.
- She thinks I was being lied to.
1102
00:42:07,786 --> 00:42:09,483
- Listen--
- November 2nd. How about that?
1103
00:42:09,614 --> 00:42:12,355
"Can't wait to be the best
boyfriend fiancé to you.
1104
00:42:12,442 --> 00:42:14,532
I know you think I do a lot.
You're so appreciative.
1105
00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:16,751
But there's so much more
I want to do."
1106
00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:17,535
- That's what you texted her.
- No, I didn't.
1107
00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:18,579
It has the date stamp on it.
1108
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:20,494
Let me...
All right.
1109
00:42:20,581 --> 00:42:22,583
- I know.
- I mean, I have, like,
1110
00:42:22,627 --> 00:42:24,454
57 more things.
- I mean, we know your goal.
1111
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:25,891
Well, just----ing own it.
Own it.
1112
00:42:25,978 --> 00:42:27,806
- Okay, so hold on. He's not--
- I just wanna--
1113
00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:29,851
Hold on. He's not denying
1114
00:42:29,895 --> 00:42:31,331
that he had an affair
with this woman.
1115
00:42:31,418 --> 00:42:33,463
- I didn't know.
- No, we all know
1116
00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:35,422
you didn't know.
We just need Brian to tell us
1117
00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:37,380
when it ended,
and then we can all move on.
1118
00:42:37,424 --> 00:42:38,904
'Cause we know
it's not your fault.
1119
00:42:39,034 --> 00:42:40,514
- You didn't do this, Rulla.
- You know what? I-I'd like--
1120
00:42:40,645 --> 00:42:41,994
- No, Rulla, no--
- It's not your fault. It's his.
1121
00:42:42,081 --> 00:42:43,561
Yeah, Rulla,
there's no ill will towards you.
1122
00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:46,564
I am a victim.
So where is the real sympathy?
1123
00:42:46,651 --> 00:42:49,392
- You keep on deflecting.
- I'm not deflecting, Jo-Ellen.
1124
00:42:49,479 --> 00:42:50,959
He's guilty, but it's done.
1125
00:42:51,046 --> 00:42:52,439
But you know what?
It just ended.
1126
00:42:52,526 --> 00:42:53,396
And respect the fact
that sometimes there's love.
1127
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,746
Let him tell you
that it just ended.
1128
00:42:54,833 --> 00:42:56,661
Here's the thing.
She's not gonna stop until...
1129
00:42:56,748 --> 00:42:57,705
I support you trying make your
marriage work. I support that.
1130
00:42:57,792 --> 00:42:59,272
- ...he says when it ended.
- Okay. So--
1131
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:01,666
That's--I agree with Rosie.
1132
00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:05,060
Okay, Rosie, you are trying
to coach Rulla to do what?
1133
00:43:05,104 --> 00:43:07,715
I think that we all agree that
Rulla did not know about this.
1134
00:43:07,759 --> 00:43:09,369
- Okay.
- And she definitely was
1135
00:43:09,456 --> 00:43:11,458
believing things and, you know,
wants to believe her husband.
1136
00:43:11,545 --> 00:43:13,025
Of course.
That's how affairs work.
1137
00:43:13,155 --> 00:43:16,332
If Brian can just admit
when it ended officially,
1138
00:43:16,419 --> 00:43:19,727
we can all agree that Rulla
did not know it was continuing
1139
00:43:19,814 --> 00:43:21,903
to go on, and then Jo-Ellen
will not keep bringing stuff up,
1140
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:24,602
and then we can all
just, like, move forward.
1141
00:43:26,429 --> 00:43:27,996
When did it end?
1142
00:43:28,127 --> 00:43:29,824
Unfortunately,
because of the nondisclosure,
1143
00:43:29,868 --> 00:43:31,609
I can't speak of that.
- No, no, no, no, no.
1144
00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:34,612
It's ridiculous.
1145
00:43:34,699 --> 00:43:37,092
I can tell you the last time.
I can tell you the date.
1146
00:43:37,179 --> 00:43:39,181
So if you don't wanna say it,
I can.
1147
00:43:39,225 --> 00:43:40,661
- What I will say is that...
- I know this.
1148
00:43:40,792 --> 00:43:43,185
...I have not seen
my former partner
1149
00:43:43,229 --> 00:43:45,797
since October of last year.
- Okay.
1150
00:43:45,884 --> 00:43:47,755
- Okay.
- All right.
1151
00:43:47,886 --> 00:43:48,974
JO-ELLEN: What, he said October
of last year?
1152
00:43:49,104 --> 00:43:50,279
- Yes.
- October last year.
1153
00:43:50,323 --> 00:43:51,585
- Survey says?
- That's disgusting.
1154
00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:52,934
- Survey says that's a lie.
- That was a lie, sir.
1155
00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:55,720
- Yeah, um, I have the proof.
- Oh, boy.
1156
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:57,809
It's--you're sending her
pictures of your son.
1157
00:43:57,852 --> 00:43:59,854
You're sending
your son's Christmas list.
1158
00:43:59,941 --> 00:44:01,073
- No, I posted--
- How would I have
1159
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,640
a picture of you sending--
- Because I posted
1160
00:44:02,727 --> 00:44:03,815
my son's Christmas list.
She downloaded it.
1161
00:44:03,945 --> 00:44:04,859
No, it's in a text message
to her.
1162
00:44:04,990 --> 00:44:06,034
And you guys
have some kind of phone.
1163
00:44:06,165 --> 00:44:07,253
Jo-Ellen, do you know
if it's over now,
1164
00:44:07,383 --> 00:44:08,776
according to your proof?
- It's fine. Whatever.
1165
00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:10,299
- Is it over now?
- It ended this year.
1166
00:44:10,386 --> 00:44:11,866
- That's fine. It's over now.
- Okay, so it is over now.
1167
00:44:11,997 --> 00:44:13,346
- It's over now.
- And they've decided
1168
00:44:13,433 --> 00:44:14,521
to move forward
and try to stay together.
1169
00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:15,957
- I'm happy for them.
- And I know you--
1170
00:44:16,001 --> 00:44:17,045
- I know you didn't--
- What's up with this year now?
1171
00:44:17,089 --> 00:44:18,264
Like, why does
she keep saying this year?
1172
00:44:18,351 --> 00:44:19,613
No, nothing.
I have no idea why, because--
1173
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:20,701
He's not even allowed
to see this person.
1174
00:44:20,832 --> 00:44:22,137
Legally, I can't even see
this person.
1175
00:44:22,181 --> 00:44:23,573
Either they're
breaking the law...
1176
00:44:23,617 --> 00:44:25,488
- Now. Now.
- Rulla, it is your impression
1177
00:44:25,619 --> 00:44:29,318
that the affair ended when?
1178
00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:31,538
- I don't know, around October...
- Okay.
1179
00:44:31,581 --> 00:44:33,583
- ...last year.
- What about penis into vagina?
1180
00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:34,889
So when the show
was filming last year,
1181
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:38,501
you believed
that the affair was over.
1182
00:44:38,588 --> 00:44:40,025
- Yeah.
- Now you feel like
1183
00:44:40,112 --> 00:44:41,809
it was actually happening.
1184
00:44:41,896 --> 00:44:43,419
And as much
as you hate Jo-Ellen for it,
1185
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:45,334
she's the one
that's proving to you,
1186
00:44:45,378 --> 00:44:47,728
so you should be, like, happy
that she's bringing it to light.
1187
00:44:47,815 --> 00:44:50,252
No, you know what? I'm not
blaming you for the info,
1188
00:44:50,296 --> 00:44:53,299
but I'm blaming you for
continuing to put it out there
1189
00:44:53,342 --> 00:44:55,127
and invade my privacy.
1190
00:44:55,214 --> 00:44:57,042
Why aren't you blaming Brian
for continuing to put it in her?
1191
00:44:57,085 --> 00:44:59,958
- I don't know what else to say.
- Okay.
1192
00:45:00,088 --> 00:45:02,743
So I think Brian should say,
"Yes, I----ed up."
1193
00:45:02,874 --> 00:45:04,310
- Exactly.
- "I was this, I was that."
1194
00:45:04,397 --> 00:45:06,529
And you should say, "You know,
1195
00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,357
I didn't do this because
I loved Rulla and I wanted..."
1196
00:45:08,401 --> 00:45:10,055
Or out of any goodwill.
1197
00:45:10,098 --> 00:45:13,449
"I did this to show everybody
that I was telling the truth."
1198
00:45:13,493 --> 00:45:16,539
Rulla, it was reported
that you went to the police
1199
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:18,890
with a tracker in your car.
1200
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:20,935
Did you know
that going to the police
1201
00:45:21,066 --> 00:45:23,329
might lead
to your husband's arrest?
1202
00:45:23,372 --> 00:45:25,679
No, I honestly did not know.
1203
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:27,507
So, Brian, why did you have
a tracking device
1204
00:45:27,594 --> 00:45:29,770
on Rulla's car?
1205
00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:31,467
Yeah, and that case
has been dismissed,
1206
00:45:31,598 --> 00:45:32,860
so I mean, I can't really
talk about it.
1207
00:45:32,947 --> 00:45:34,470
- Okay.
- Well, if it's been dismissed,
1208
00:45:34,514 --> 00:45:36,211
why can't you talk about it?
- Why are you here...
1209
00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:37,647
- I can't talk about it.
- ...if you can't say anything?
1210
00:45:37,778 --> 00:45:39,040
I'm assuming
that you were tracking her
1211
00:45:39,127 --> 00:45:42,435
because you were
in the midst of an affair,
1212
00:45:42,565 --> 00:45:44,393
and you didn't want her--
- No, well,
1213
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,786
I can still defend myself,
even though I can't speak.
1214
00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:49,355
So, basically,
you know, I pled not guilty.
1215
00:45:49,398 --> 00:45:51,836
I'm glad that that incident
happened, because what happened
1216
00:45:51,923 --> 00:45:54,664
is the state initiated
a no contact order.
1217
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:56,623
And for four weeks, I couldn't
talk to her. I couldn't see her.
1218
00:45:56,710 --> 00:46:00,105
I couldn't be near her,
and so it made me realize
1219
00:46:00,148 --> 00:46:02,455
how much I love her,
how much I miss her,
1220
00:46:02,498 --> 00:46:04,631
and how much I couldn't wait
to be with her.
1221
00:46:07,329 --> 00:46:09,679
If my husband
put a tracker on my car...
1222
00:46:09,723 --> 00:46:12,813
Yeah.
1223
00:46:12,944 --> 00:46:14,597
- Without you knowing.
- That's not okay.
1224
00:46:14,728 --> 00:46:16,164
Rosie and I have each other's
location all the time, but--
1225
00:46:16,208 --> 00:46:17,339
It's creepy.
1226
00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:19,037
I know,
but sharing your location...
1227
00:46:19,124 --> 00:46:20,952
- We're sharing our location.
- Right, right.
1228
00:46:21,082 --> 00:46:22,997
- When you put a tracker on--
- Rulla, you--okay, hold on,
1229
00:46:23,128 --> 00:46:27,175
Rulla, I mean,
as he was just talking about it,
1230
00:46:27,262 --> 00:46:29,961
I mean,
I'm looking at your face,
1231
00:46:30,004 --> 00:46:32,398
I feel that you're
still not over this.
1232
00:46:34,095 --> 00:46:35,967
Oh, of course.
It's very upsetting.
1233
00:46:36,054 --> 00:46:39,231
I mean, I...I'm traumatized.
1234
00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:41,494
How did you forgive him?
1235
00:46:41,581 --> 00:46:44,497
It's--It's not really to say
that he's been forgiven.
1236
00:46:44,584 --> 00:46:46,847
Do you trust him?
1237
00:46:46,891 --> 00:46:49,807
Uh... that... would need
to be earned back.
1238
00:46:49,894 --> 00:46:51,025
Trust is earned.
I need to earn that back.
1239
00:46:51,156 --> 00:46:53,201
That just doesn't
come back overnight.
1240
00:46:53,245 --> 00:46:55,900
- I mean--
- That will take me a long time.
1241
00:46:55,987 --> 00:47:00,469
You've come back from an arrest
and a restraining order...
1242
00:47:00,513 --> 00:47:04,517
- Mm-hmm.
- ...to salvage your marriage.
1243
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,737
You obviously feel
that there's something
1244
00:47:07,781 --> 00:47:09,391
worth fighting for here.
1245
00:47:09,522 --> 00:47:11,524
I think...
1246
00:47:11,611 --> 00:47:15,441
we really have had a lot of love
between us since the beginning.
1247
00:47:15,484 --> 00:47:18,444
And, yes, that was fractured.
1248
00:47:18,531 --> 00:47:21,708
And it--it hurts.
1249
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,539
It's painful every day.
1250
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:40,858
We really have had a lot of love
between us since the beginning.
1251
00:47:41,032 --> 00:47:43,904
And, yes, that was fractured.
1252
00:47:43,991 --> 00:47:45,906
And it--it hurts.
1253
00:47:48,691 --> 00:47:50,911
It's painful every day.
1254
00:47:50,998 --> 00:47:53,348
Every relationship goes
through phases,
1255
00:47:53,435 --> 00:47:55,002
up and down, up and down.
1256
00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:58,484
And if the whole goal is--is
for the family to stay together,
1257
00:47:58,571 --> 00:48:01,008
that she's the glue that holds
our family together.
1258
00:48:01,052 --> 00:48:02,357
You know,
just because someone makes
1259
00:48:02,444 --> 00:48:04,185
a series of sins
against the other person
1260
00:48:04,316 --> 00:48:05,752
doesn't mean that,
1261
00:48:05,926 --> 00:48:07,362
you know,
that you just throw it away.
1262
00:48:07,449 --> 00:48:08,842
And I'm trying
to be a better person,
1263
00:48:08,886 --> 00:48:11,410
be a better husband,
continue to be a good father.
1264
00:48:11,453 --> 00:48:15,196
So what are you gonna do
if he does this again?
1265
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,503
There's no--
this won't happen again.
1266
00:48:17,546 --> 00:48:20,549
- If it does, I don't--
- So this is his last chance.
1267
00:48:20,593 --> 00:48:22,247
There's--There's no forgiveness.
1268
00:48:22,290 --> 00:48:23,465
Okay.
1269
00:48:23,596 --> 00:48:27,034
You know
you're better than him? Okay.
1270
00:48:27,121 --> 00:48:28,906
- Um...
- I agree, Ashley.
1271
00:48:31,691 --> 00:48:35,303
All right. I wanna thank the men
of "Rhode Island"
1272
00:48:35,347 --> 00:48:37,653
for joining us today
and all season long.
1273
00:48:37,697 --> 00:48:40,569
We are gonna leave it there.
We're gonna be right back.
1274
00:48:40,656 --> 00:48:43,094
- Thanks, guys.
- Hey, thank you, Andy.
1275
00:48:43,137 --> 00:48:44,660
- You're all done.
- Okay. Bye-bye.
1276
00:48:44,747 --> 00:48:46,924
Could I have water?
1277
00:48:48,664 --> 00:48:49,883
Oh!
1278
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:50,840
- That's what I wanted to hear.
- Mmm.
1279
00:48:50,884 --> 00:48:52,494
Now I'm having a good night.
1280
00:48:52,581 --> 00:48:53,843
- Are you okay?
- No.
1281
00:48:53,974 --> 00:48:55,671
This is, like,
the most effed up thing.
1282
00:48:55,802 --> 00:48:57,238
I don't know how
you're surviving, and...
1283
00:48:57,282 --> 00:48:59,371
Gerry, go kiss your wife.
1284
00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:03,114
I'm so tired of this. And then
you can't even say anything.
1285
00:49:03,244 --> 00:49:05,203
It's, like, taxing.
1286
00:49:05,246 --> 00:49:07,683
I like the eyelashes. They did
a good job on the makeup.
1287
00:49:07,814 --> 00:49:11,818
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
1288
00:49:11,861 --> 00:49:13,167
Yeah, you can
just put it right there.
1289
00:49:13,254 --> 00:49:15,909
I'm so sorry.
1290
00:49:15,996 --> 00:49:18,564
I really, really wanna
call him a slam pig.
1291
00:49:18,651 --> 00:49:20,566
I mean, good for you for trying
to stick it out, but just,
1292
00:49:20,696 --> 00:49:24,439
it's, like, hurtful, almost,
like, to be supportive.
1293
00:49:24,526 --> 00:49:25,875
It shows how much
you love Rulla
1294
00:49:26,006 --> 00:49:29,140
that you're willing
to come into this,
1295
00:49:29,314 --> 00:49:31,577
deal with this, like, head on.
1296
00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:35,885
I would also say you've gotta
tell Rulla everything.
1297
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:38,018
- It never ends if you don't.
- So are you just finding out
1298
00:49:38,149 --> 00:49:40,542
that he was until
October right now?
1299
00:49:40,629 --> 00:49:43,328
Yeah. No, like, I knew
there's still communication.
1300
00:49:43,371 --> 00:49:44,764
- Bye.
- Everyone looks beautiful.
1301
00:49:44,851 --> 00:49:46,244
- You did great.
- Thank you.
1302
00:49:47,767 --> 00:49:49,769
But the point is, like,
I didn't realize
1303
00:49:49,812 --> 00:49:52,946
that there was, like,
anything, like, of substance.
1304
00:49:53,033 --> 00:49:54,687
You know what I mean?
It's not okay.
1305
00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:58,386
I feel bad that it was
going on so much longer.
1306
00:49:58,473 --> 00:49:59,866
Seems like it might
have been, like, Christmas.
1307
00:49:59,953 --> 00:50:02,390
- I'll have to find out.
- Why has he done this?
1308
00:50:02,521 --> 00:50:04,262
Like, why is he doing this?
1309
00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:05,611
He's an idiot, and she's crazy,
and he's an idiot.
1310
00:50:05,654 --> 00:50:08,527
He's... really something.
1311
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:10,355
You guys should thank me
for coming to my show.
1312
00:50:12,922 --> 00:50:14,359
- Thank you.
- Thank you, Brian.
1313
00:50:14,446 --> 00:50:16,448
- Oh.
- Whoo-hoo!
1314
00:50:16,491 --> 00:50:19,581
I feel like there's so much
that can be uncovered
1315
00:50:19,625 --> 00:50:22,106
about different people,
their characters,
1316
00:50:22,193 --> 00:50:23,890
and other things that really
isn't being uncovered.
1317
00:50:25,805 --> 00:50:26,806
Yeah, that's...
1318
00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:29,896
Get the party started.
1319
00:50:29,939 --> 00:50:33,508
5, 4, 3, 2...
1320
00:50:33,595 --> 00:50:35,597
We are back with final thoughts
1321
00:50:35,641 --> 00:50:37,425
from "The Real Housewives
of Rhode Island"
1322
00:50:37,512 --> 00:50:39,688
Season One Reunion.
1323
00:50:39,819 --> 00:50:44,432
Congratulations, ladies.
You have made it. I am curious.
1324
00:50:44,476 --> 00:50:46,695
Now that you've finished
your first season,
1325
00:50:46,739 --> 00:50:48,480
I'd love to know
if there's anything
1326
00:50:48,567 --> 00:50:50,047
you would do differently.
1327
00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:52,005
Ashley,
I wanna start with you.
1328
00:50:52,136 --> 00:50:56,009
I would have tried to be
a little less nervous.
1329
00:50:56,096 --> 00:50:57,924
I would have tried
to be more chatty.
1330
00:50:57,967 --> 00:51:00,666
I would have tried to initiate
some more fun
1331
00:51:00,796 --> 00:51:03,930
and maybe be
a more vocal mediator at times.
1332
00:51:03,973 --> 00:51:05,192
Rosie?
1333
00:51:05,236 --> 00:51:06,498
Well, I definitely wouldn't have
1334
00:51:06,628 --> 00:51:10,067
called Kelsey or asked
if she was a polygamist.
1335
00:51:10,154 --> 00:51:12,243
And honestly, like, I just
hope moving forward, like,
1336
00:51:12,373 --> 00:51:13,853
me and Kelsey can at least,
1337
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:16,116
like, be in the same room,
you know? So...
1338
00:51:16,203 --> 00:51:18,553
Kelsey?
1339
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,600
As much as she wants it,
I would like it, too.
1340
00:51:21,643 --> 00:51:23,950
I think just
from my standpoint,
1341
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,865
it's very hard
to make friendships
1342
00:51:25,908 --> 00:51:27,649
with somebody on a TV show
1343
00:51:27,693 --> 00:51:30,043
and feel like
everyone's being authentic.
1344
00:51:30,087 --> 00:51:33,742
Rosie, if you're sincere
about wanting to be friends,
1345
00:51:33,786 --> 00:51:35,788
then we have
to do that off the show.
1346
00:51:35,831 --> 00:51:38,225
- We have to hang out...
- Yeah.
1347
00:51:38,269 --> 00:51:41,228
- I would like that.
- ...when cameras aren't around.
1348
00:51:41,315 --> 00:51:43,883
- I agree.
- Rulla?
1349
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:47,452
I would have shut things down
harder, even sooner,
1350
00:51:47,539 --> 00:51:49,715
but I don't know
that it would have worked.
1351
00:51:49,802 --> 00:51:52,239
Jo-Ellen?
1352
00:51:52,283 --> 00:51:54,937
I would probably change the way
that I went towards Rulla
1353
00:51:54,981 --> 00:51:58,071
about things and maybe done it
a little bit more privately.
1354
00:51:58,158 --> 00:52:00,987
I also would say I would
like to be a better mediator
1355
00:52:01,074 --> 00:52:04,295
and, you know, make sure
that I have Liz's back.
1356
00:52:04,382 --> 00:52:06,471
Liz?
1357
00:52:06,558 --> 00:52:14,479
I would try to control,
react, police, and care less.
1358
00:52:14,653 --> 00:52:17,046
- All right.
- All four.
1359
00:52:17,177 --> 00:52:18,396
That's good.
1360
00:52:18,439 --> 00:52:20,528
Okay. Alicia?
1361
00:52:20,659 --> 00:52:22,922
I wish I wore
more makeup and stuff.
1362
00:52:23,052 --> 00:52:25,272
I really hate
looking at my scar on camera.
1363
00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:27,883
- This little thing?
- Yeah, my dog bit my face.
1364
00:52:27,927 --> 00:52:29,755
I actually wish
I did my scar for my dog,
1365
00:52:29,885 --> 00:52:31,409
so that's what I would change,
and that's it.
1366
00:52:31,539 --> 00:52:32,845
You would just change
the scar on your face?
1367
00:52:32,888 --> 00:52:35,326
I would.
1368
00:52:36,327 --> 00:52:38,720
It is a tradition around here
1369
00:52:38,764 --> 00:52:41,854
to end reunions
with a celebratory toast,
1370
00:52:41,897 --> 00:52:45,553
so I think this calls
for some Dirty Shirleys.
1371
00:52:45,597 --> 00:52:47,729
Now, what is in a Dirty Shirley?
Will you--
1372
00:52:47,773 --> 00:52:49,122
It's a Shirley Temple
with vodka.
1373
00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:51,037
- But first...
- Yes?
1374
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,474
I would like to present
to you...
1375
00:52:53,518 --> 00:52:56,260
- We all had masks at dinner.
- Yes.
1376
00:52:56,347 --> 00:52:58,914
What the heck am I walking into?
1377
00:52:58,958 --> 00:53:01,656
What am I supposed to do,
not eat and drink?
1378
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:03,963
- Gonna present you this mask.
- That's actually very cute.
1379
00:53:04,006 --> 00:53:05,878
- Me?
- And it--yes.
1380
00:53:05,921 --> 00:53:08,141
You are
our King of Rhode Island.
1381
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:10,404
- And there's...
- Wow.
1382
00:53:10,448 --> 00:53:12,928
- ...seven points.
- For each of you.
1383
00:53:13,015 --> 00:53:15,931
It doesn't represent a façade
1384
00:53:15,975 --> 00:53:17,846
because you are still the king
when you...
1385
00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:18,891
- That is so nice.
- Wow, thank you.
1386
00:53:18,978 --> 00:53:20,284
Oh, I love it.
1387
00:53:20,327 --> 00:53:23,025
It's maybe going
in the clubhouse. Thank you.
1388
00:53:23,112 --> 00:53:24,766
- That's awesome.
- Thank you very much.
1389
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:28,509
- That's a very thoughtful gift.
- That's King Andy Cohen.
1390
00:53:28,553 --> 00:53:30,729
- I actually like that.
- Let me just pass these out.
1391
00:53:30,772 --> 00:53:32,339
Delicious.
1392
00:53:32,383 --> 00:53:33,949
I see you didn't pick out
the seeds.
1393
00:53:33,993 --> 00:53:35,777
- No.
- Thank you so much.
1394
00:53:35,908 --> 00:53:37,692
Alicia, you wanna
lead us in a toast?
1395
00:53:37,736 --> 00:53:39,259
Me? Okay.
1396
00:53:39,346 --> 00:53:43,611
I am so proud of all of us girls
this year.
1397
00:53:43,655 --> 00:53:45,787
- I love all of you guys...
- Thank you.
1398
00:53:45,831 --> 00:53:47,833
And thank you so much
for giving us this opportunity.
1399
00:53:47,963 --> 00:53:51,358
We're so blessed.
Thank you for believing in us.
1400
00:53:51,402 --> 00:53:54,927
For more with the "Housewives,"
click around bravotv.com.
1401
00:53:54,970 --> 00:53:56,407
Cheers, everybody.
1402
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:57,973
- Cheers.
- To Rhode Island.
1403
00:53:58,060 --> 00:53:59,932
To Rhode Island, bitch.
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