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Thinking
about having children?
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Aah!
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You might wanna
watch this first...
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The girls hate Carrie
because she's different.
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She is the hero
wronged by society.
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And, society,
this is what you get.
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Bring them back here.
Right here to me!
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You say a child
is a bad seed...
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Everyone knows what you mean.
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Something that's supposed
to be so innocent
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becoming so evil.
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And now it's something
that can harm you.
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You don't know what's going
on inside that kid.
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Leave us alone.
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Maybe they're just being
a weird kid,
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or maybe you're about to die.
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"Children of the Corn" is,
like,
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the ultimate creepy kid flick.
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We want to give you peace.
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You're just like,
"Oh, these kids are."
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What could be
more frightening
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than your child gone wrong?
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People without children don't
realize how lucky they are.
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The chilling
children of horror
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come in many forms.
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Help me.
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Some are born with
the seeds of evil
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lurking inside them.
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A few are good kids
possessed by evil entities.
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And I'm the devil.
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And then
there's Carrie,
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a good girl who does
some very bad things.
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Based on Stephen King's
terrifying debut novel,
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"Carrie" begins
with blood and trauma.
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Sissy Spacek plays a teenage
girl so sheltered and naive,
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that when she has
her first menstruation
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in a high school shower,
she thinks she's dying.
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Help me!
Help me!
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Have a tampon.
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And her classmates
brutally shame her for it.
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Hey, Norma,
Carrie's on her period.
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I don't even think we're
thinking about what happeed,
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or what's wrong with her;
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we're just dis...
just repelled by her.
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It's really about
how mean kids can be,
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and if you're different,
we're gonna torture you.
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You know?
And you will pay for it.
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Put it on, put it on,
put it on, put it on!
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The traumatic
passage into womanhood
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awakens Carrie's
latent psychic powers.
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Carrie's tormenters are
punished for their cruelty.
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Bad girl Chris
is out for revenge,
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while good girl Sue
wants to atone for her sin.
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She persuades her boyfriend to
ask Carrie to the senior prom.
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If you don't have a date
to the prom next Friday,
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would you like to go with me?
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I always saw him
as conflicted,
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but always very virtuous,
wanting to do the right thing.
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I've been invited
to the prom.
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Prom?
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The abuse
Carrie suffers at school
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pales next to what she endures
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from her hyper-religious
mother.
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It's extraordinary to me that
people were frightened by me
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because it was such a... it was
like a vacation for me,
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and I hadn't laughed that much
in a long time at myself.
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The boys.
Yes, the boys.
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After the blood come the boys
like sniffing dogs.
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Really, you have in Margaret
White someone who is terrified
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that the world is going to
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tear her daughter apart,
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and almost preemptively,
she starts to tear her apart
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before the world
gets a chance to do it.
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Mama, I'll get them.
Please sit and talk to me!
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I'm going, Mama.
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Carrie's prom shows
director Brian De Palma
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at his best,
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balancing technical
virtuosity
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with strong
emotional storytelling.
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The prom scene took
two to three weeks to shoot.
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It was the longest sequence
in the film.
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It was the big set piece,
of course.
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Nobody I've worked with has
done as many takes as Brian.
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That prom scene is just
really muscular filmmaking.
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Like, just what he's doing
with the camera
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is so exciting.
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Why am I here with you?
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Because I asked you.
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You know,
even when they're dancing,
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and the camera's
revolving around them,
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and it just starts spinning
out of control,
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it shouldn't work,
and it's... it's really uncanny.
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Carrie, we're here.
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She's, you know, been
cocooned for her whole life
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with this oppressive
religious mother,
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and then finally
she gets a chance
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to emerge
as this beautiful butterfly.
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You really begin to feel
this sense of hope.
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And then what happens
after that
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is just tragic.
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Can I have your ballot,
please?
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Carrie's enemies
rig the ballots
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so she becomes prom queen,
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and so they can spring
a terrible trap.
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I think everyone always
responds to that movie,
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where, like,
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"We just want it to turn out
differently this time."
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She's happy; you know, she's
just happy for the first time,
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and we're so happy to see that
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and dreading what
we know is coming,
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and then it all explodes.
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Drenched in blood,
Carrie snaps,
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and her psychic powers erupt.
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Sissy Spacek's eyes...
she's covered in blood,
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but her eyes
are really big and blue.
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I remember the first time
I saw that,
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I think I backed up
a little bit and went,
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"Oh, no, oh, this is bad.
This is bad.
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I've never seen her mad yet.
I haven't seen her mad yet."
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She splits, and De Palma
splits the screen.
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And when
Carrie's personality splits,
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and she just looks, it's like
the other side takes over.
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It's like in the beginning
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she has this little bit of
power with the drop of blood,
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but when she's covered
in blood,
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that's when it really
comes out,
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and she's like,
"I'm going to make you pay."
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Somewhere inside every girl,
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they can relate to this idea
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of feeling like, "My power
has been taken away from me,
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"and what would I do
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if I got all that power
and then some back?"
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After laying waste
to her graduating class,
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Carrie goes home
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to the less than
comforting arms of her mother,
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who's decided her daughter
must die.
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Piper Laurie raises
the knife...
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Aah!
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And then they dd
that whole sequence
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where the knives "whoos"
they twirl through the air.
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You know when I first saw i,
I didn't know how they did it.
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I was wearing
this iron vest underneath,
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and each place
I was going to be hit
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there was a block of wood
underneath
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and a hole in the costume
with a wire stretched out
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to the prop man.
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And this knife
or can opener would travel
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until it hit me,
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and then I would react.
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Aah!
Aah!
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That one particular scene
was always my favorite.
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And I thought
the movie was over,
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so I was really
100% completely satisfied,
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and then of course the arm
comes out of the ground
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at the end.
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Carrie has the greatest
jump scare ending ever.
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That ending changed movies.
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If you were making
a horror movie,
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you had to have a jump scare
at the end,
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or the audiences were pissed.
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Decades after its release,
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"Carrie" remains
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one of the all time
great horror classics,
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because while fashions
may change,
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the misery adolescence
is timeless.
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Everybody sympathizes
with Carrie.
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The character of Carrie White
continues to resonate
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generation after generation
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because she is sort of,
like, this heroic character
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for anybody has been
marginalized or bullied
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or has had
an oppressive parent.
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It is a warning to all of us
to be kind to each other
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because you don't know
what monster you're making.
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It's understandable
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that a gentle soul could be
pushed to the breaking point,
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but some children
defy understanding.
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Like the anel-faced tikes
with murder in their hearts.
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What is
the nature of evil?
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Is it learned behavior?
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Or are some kids
just born bad?
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When a child kills,
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do we blame the parents?
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- Say good-bye.
- No!
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Or faulty brain
chemistry?
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Those difficult questions
are at the heart of two films
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made half a century apart
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in two very different
Americas.
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What are all
these people watching?
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People like me.
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"We Need to Tk
About Kevin" from 2011
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and "The Bad Seed" from 1956.
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"We Need to Talk About
Kevin" is an evil child film
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for the era
of school shootings.
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Through disjointed flashbacks,
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the film traces
the relationship
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of a reluctant mother
to her son.
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Kevin's an inscrutable
psychopath
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who makes her life hell
as a oddler
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and ends up a teenage
mass murderer.
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What could be
more frightening
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than your child gone wrong?
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I mean how organic is that?
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How horrendous would that be?
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Because you're there
for at least 18 years, man.
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However your kids comes out,
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you have a responsibility.
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It's almost just
every parent's nightmare
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than anything else.
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It's highly relatable,
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because I think every parent
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experiences
that "what if" moment.
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You know, what if my daughter
or son did this or that?
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Kevin's guilt-ridden
mother is haunted
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by not knowing if her child
was born bad,
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or if her failures as a mother
made him a monster.
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There's a very contemporary
kind of engagement
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with the discussions of
what's sometimes referred to
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as the Mommy Wars.
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Just a continual question
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of how much time, energy,
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and emotional attachment
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do mothers need to give
to their children?
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And you know, all kinds of
guilt accorded to mothers
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who supposedly do not give
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enough emotional time
and energy to their children.
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Looks like
someone's having a nice day.
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Enjoying yourself?
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I'm sorry?
Ooh!
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I think culturally,
that's what we do to women
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who don't always live up
to the ideal of, like,
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"Oh, my God,
I love my beautiful child.
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My child is just
the most wonderful thing."
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I don't like that.
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Mommy was happy befow
wittle Kevin came along.
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You know dat?
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Basically,
I think it's an expose
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on how difficult
parenthood can be.
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Now Mommy wakes up
every morning
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and wishes
she was in France!
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You never know exactly
what you're gonna get, right?
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You're a little clammy.
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You feeling okay?
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Never better.
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Today,
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the idea of a seemingly
normal American kid
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committing coldblooded mass
murder is a sad fact of life.
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In 1956, it ws shocking.
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The pigtailed psycho killer
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at the heart
of "The Bad Seed"
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is 8-year-old Rhoda Penmark.
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She's the original
evil child of horror.
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If you say a child
is a bad seed,
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everyone knows what you mean.
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It's part of the, uh...
the Lexicon now.
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"The Bad Seed"
is one of the more chilling
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child horror stories
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because there's not
a supernatural element to it.
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She's just an evil kid.
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- Good morning, Miss Fern.
- Good morning, Rhoda.
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Always smiling, always nice,
always clean-cut,
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and then pure evil
behind your back.
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You've got them hid,
but you'd better get them
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and bring them back here,
right here to me!
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Patty McCormack
is the bad seed.
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It'd had been a play first
on Broadway,
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and she having played it
onstage,
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really knew that character.
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I thought I'd seen some
mean little gals in my time,
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but you're the meanest.
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And she made it real.
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I know what you think.
I know everything you think.
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Rhoda just thought she
was right about everything...
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And had no problem,
once she had a goal,
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and achieving that goal
no matter what the cost,
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and slowly through the film,
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the mother realizes
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that her daughter
is different.
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Is it true that when blood
has been washed off anything,
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a policeman can still find
if it's there?
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"The Bad Seed"
arrived in the mid 1950s,
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one of the most conservative
periods in American history.
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The generation that grew up
during the Great Depression
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believed in strict discipline
and frowned on selfishness.
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Rhoda embodied
their worst fears
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about their own children.
286
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I was a child of the '50s,
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and, you know, they hit you...
you know what I mean...
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when you were naughty.
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No one called Child Services,
you know?
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You made up your mind
in one second!
291
00:15:28,262 --> 00:15:32,975
So it was so fun to be free
of the constraints
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of the time.
293
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And I told him I'd hit him
with my shoe
294
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if he didn't give me the medal!
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I think the film is
definitely at least hinting
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at the idea that
sort of capitalistic greed
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is at the heart of social decay
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and maybe
of Rhoda's pathology.
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Could I have both stones?
The garnet too?
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Rhoda!
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00:15:56,206 --> 00:15:57,517
You know, that kind
of rugged individualism
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in some ways
kind of creates monsters
303
00:16:00,961 --> 00:16:02,921
like Rhoda, you know,
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00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,965
who are willing to do
whatever it takes
305
00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:08,093
to get what they want
and to succeed.
306
00:16:08,135 --> 00:16:10,679
It's just a more
pointed version
307
00:16:10,721 --> 00:16:13,557
of what capitalism
encourages everybody to do.
308
00:16:13,599 --> 00:16:16,268
I wish she were mine.
309
00:16:17,478 --> 00:16:19,855
What could be
more frightening
310
00:16:19,897 --> 00:16:22,441
than a lone predator stalking
us behind a mask of innocence?
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A pack of young wolves
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thirsting for your blood.
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00:16:35,162 --> 00:16:37,456
You can never be
entirely sure
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00:16:37,498 --> 00:16:39,291
what kids are thinking.
315
00:16:39,333 --> 00:16:40,685
Or what they might
do next.
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Aah!
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00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:44,630
When you gather
them together,
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00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:47,883
that unpredictability
leads to fun, troubling,
319
00:16:47,925 --> 00:16:50,135
and transgressive
horror films.
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00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:56,475
Kids are a bit of a mystery,
and so in that mystery,
321
00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:59,978
you can tuck
some really dark forces.
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Maybe they're just being
a weird kid,
323
00:17:02,022 --> 00:17:03,857
or maybe you're about to die.
324
00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:07,170
Few children
in film history
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00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:10,072
are as mysterious or as deadly
326
00:17:10,113 --> 00:17:11,907
as the ones
in "Village of the Damned."
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00:17:15,911 --> 00:17:19,206
Five months after everyone
in an English village
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00:17:19,248 --> 00:17:20,874
falls unconscious,
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00:17:20,916 --> 00:17:23,627
12 strange children are born.
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They are emotionless,
hyper intelligent,
331
00:17:26,296 --> 00:17:30,008
and have the power to read
and control people's minds.
332
00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:32,344
They're so malevolent,
and they're so powerful,
333
00:17:32,386 --> 00:17:35,764
and you can't imagine
the human race ever surviving
334
00:17:35,806 --> 00:17:38,767
the war with these kids, the
way they get inside your head.
335
00:17:38,809 --> 00:17:42,020
We never know
what led to their birth,
336
00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:44,147
but we instantly see
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00:17:44,189 --> 00:17:46,567
that they are convinced
of their absolute superiority
338
00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:48,110
to their parents.
339
00:17:48,151 --> 00:17:51,280
You have to be taught
to leave us alone.
340
00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:53,865
And that they have
a hidden agenda.
341
00:17:53,907 --> 00:17:56,743
Leave us alone.
342
00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:08,672
It's also the innate fear
that parents have,
343
00:18:08,714 --> 00:18:12,009
that your child is here
to replace you.
344
00:18:12,050 --> 00:18:14,136
What are you going to do
with that power?
345
00:18:14,177 --> 00:18:16,013
Father,
346
00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:18,682
we know what
you're trying to find out.
347
00:18:18,724 --> 00:18:21,893
It'd be better if you
didn't ask these questions.
348
00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:24,688
We want to learn from you.
349
00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:26,565
They're here
because you're leaving...
350
00:18:26,607 --> 00:18:28,442
All right,
that'll be all for the day.
351
00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:30,402
And they're gonna take over.
352
00:18:30,444 --> 00:18:34,406
And the anxiety is that
they're not gonna wait.
353
00:18:35,407 --> 00:18:37,451
It's no coincidence
354
00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:39,095
that the children
bear a strong resemblance
355
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,496
to fanatical Hitler Youth.
356
00:18:42,664 --> 00:18:45,083
Director Wolf Rilla's family
fled Nazi Germany
357
00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,294
when he was 14.
358
00:18:47,336 --> 00:18:51,131
He had seen the indoctrination
of minors firsthand.
359
00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:54,301
The Nazis were neither
the first nor the last
360
00:18:54,343 --> 00:18:57,095
to realize
that ideology can be used
361
00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:59,931
to turn children
into pitiless killers.
362
00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:04,603
The 1970s, Cambodia's
Khmer Rouge used teenagers
363
00:19:04,645 --> 00:19:07,022
to carry out
a genocidal campaign
364
00:19:07,064 --> 00:19:09,691
that left nearly
2 million people dead,
365
00:19:09,733 --> 00:19:13,278
including a sizable number
of their parents.
366
00:19:14,613 --> 00:19:17,908
Very loosely adapted from
a short story by Stephen King,
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00:19:17,949 --> 00:19:20,952
written when the Khmer Rouge
was in power,
368
00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:23,080
"Children of the Corn"
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00:19:23,121 --> 00:19:25,332
begins with the mass murder
of all the adults
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00:19:25,374 --> 00:19:28,210
in a small town
by young religious zealots.
371
00:19:28,251 --> 00:19:30,671
No!
372
00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:32,214
Ay!
373
00:19:32,255 --> 00:19:34,091
Stop it!
374
00:19:34,132 --> 00:19:35,842
What "Children of the Corn"
did,
375
00:19:35,884 --> 00:19:37,219
like a lot of, you know,
376
00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:38,970
button-pushing movies
of the '80s,
377
00:19:39,012 --> 00:19:40,889
is that it made kids killers.
378
00:19:42,641 --> 00:19:43,850
Mom!
379
00:19:43,892 --> 00:19:45,394
In the '80s,
380
00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:47,163
it was very taboo
to see kids killing adults,
381
00:19:47,187 --> 00:19:49,147
kids picking up knives,
kids being violent.
382
00:19:49,189 --> 00:19:52,275
Don't do it!
383
00:19:55,737 --> 00:19:58,323
"Welcome to Nebraska."
384
00:19:58,365 --> 00:20:00,409
Three years
after the massacre,
385
00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,786
two travelers find themselves
under attack
386
00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:04,830
by the town's
corn-worshipping kids.
387
00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:05,997
Aah!
388
00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,290
Oh!
389
00:20:07,332 --> 00:20:09,000
Outlander!
390
00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:13,380
They're deemed outlanders
391
00:20:13,422 --> 00:20:15,757
who must be sacrificed
to an invisible god
392
00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:18,719
called "He Who Walks
Behind the Rows."
393
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,014
Kill, kill, kill,
kill, kill, kill, kill, kill!
394
00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,516
I kind of love the concept
395
00:20:24,558 --> 00:20:26,560
of taking something
so innocent and pure
396
00:20:26,601 --> 00:20:29,730
and turning it into
something cruel and malicious.
397
00:20:29,771 --> 00:20:32,274
Praise God!
Praise the Lord!
398
00:20:32,315 --> 00:20:34,526
As parents,
that's the last thing you want.
399
00:20:34,568 --> 00:20:35,944
You wanna shield your child
400
00:20:35,986 --> 00:20:37,863
from everything wrong
in the world,
401
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,365
and so to see them become a
part of it is like a nightmare,
402
00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:41,783
which makes it scary.
403
00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:47,748
The death cult is
led by child preacher, Isaac,
404
00:20:47,789 --> 00:20:49,833
whose grammatical
eccentricities
405
00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:51,543
rival Jedi Master Yoda.
406
00:20:51,585 --> 00:20:54,588
Question not my judgment,
Malachi.
407
00:20:54,629 --> 00:20:57,299
I am the giver of His word.
408
00:20:57,340 --> 00:20:59,760
Isaac's surly lieutenant
409
00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:02,137
is the scenery chewing
Malachi.
410
00:21:02,179 --> 00:21:04,347
We want to give you peace.
411
00:21:04,389 --> 00:21:06,016
Bring in the blood
of the outlander!
412
00:21:06,057 --> 00:21:08,769
Outlander!
Shut your mouth.
413
00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,228
Aah!
414
00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:12,147
It's one of those movies
that somehow
415
00:21:12,189 --> 00:21:14,149
just got exploited to death.
416
00:21:14,191 --> 00:21:17,611
Like, the VHS 1980s audience
417
00:21:17,652 --> 00:21:19,946
just loved watching
"Children of the Corn" movies
418
00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:21,239
for some reason.
419
00:21:21,281 --> 00:21:24,159
No!
420
00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:34,252
Well, what all these movies
had in common
421
00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:36,421
was they were about kids
422
00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:39,424
supernaturally punishing
their enemies,
423
00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,259
and I think that that
is something
424
00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:45,013
that is extremely attractive
to young people
425
00:21:45,055 --> 00:21:49,059
who feel that they have
no control over their lives.
426
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,478
What is it with this corn?
427
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,064
You got me.
428
00:21:54,105 --> 00:21:56,107
Look, there's a little girl.
429
00:22:01,655 --> 00:22:03,406
But for a truly
terrifying look
430
00:22:03,448 --> 00:22:05,784
at children turning
on adults,
431
00:22:05,826 --> 00:22:08,245
there's a deep-cut horror film
you have to see.
432
00:22:11,081 --> 00:22:13,208
Tom!
What's she doing?
433
00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:19,798
There's a movie called
"Who Can Kill a Child?"
434
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,467
A Spanish movie which,
um, involves
435
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,846
an entire island
filled with murderous children.
436
00:22:34,729 --> 00:22:38,525
It's like the protagonists
are surrounded by wild dogs.
437
00:22:38,567 --> 00:22:40,002
They look cute,
but they're gonna bite you.
438
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,657
The children are
infected by a psychic virus
439
00:22:45,699 --> 00:22:48,680
that compels them
to kill every adult.
440
00:22:48,681 --> 00:22:51,663
Adults are powerless
to defend themselves
441
00:22:51,705 --> 00:22:53,623
because who can kill a child?
442
00:22:56,418 --> 00:22:57,711
No!
Tom!
443
00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:00,523
You don't wanna
punch a child.
444
00:23:00,547 --> 00:23:01,756
You don't wanna kick a child.
445
00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:03,717
They're scary, but you're like,
446
00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:06,428
"I can't do anything.
It's an actual child."
447
00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:13,935
And so it's
a very unnerving thing
448
00:23:13,977 --> 00:23:15,937
to watch a scary child
449
00:23:15,979 --> 00:23:17,779
or a child with a knife
or anything like that.
450
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,447
The real horror
of these films
451
00:23:25,488 --> 00:23:28,283
is watching children
blinded by ideology,
452
00:23:28,325 --> 00:23:30,994
lacking empathy,
filled with rage,
453
00:23:31,036 --> 00:23:32,329
capable of anything.
454
00:23:34,706 --> 00:23:37,709
In other words,
children behaving like adults.
455
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,047
Few films have
better expressed
456
00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:44,174
the fear that our children
457
00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:46,760
are twisted reflections
of ourselves than "The Brood."
458
00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:56,019
Mutant children
begin murdering people
459
00:23:56,061 --> 00:23:57,979
a man's bitter ex-wife
doesn't like.
460
00:23:58,021 --> 00:23:59,814
Nola?
461
00:24:01,775 --> 00:24:03,944
He suspects
it's connected
462
00:24:03,985 --> 00:24:06,488
to her psychiatrist's
radical treatment for anger.
463
00:24:08,615 --> 00:24:12,243
This is David Cronenbers
1979 masterpiece,
464
00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,079
"The Brood."
- Aah!
465
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,998
That was another movie
that I saw as a young person
466
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,418
that just, um, kind of cracks
open your mind, you know?
467
00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:26,758
David Cronenberg
is one of the few directors
468
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,261
who's able to take
an exploitation subject
469
00:24:30,303 --> 00:24:32,222
such as a horror film
470
00:24:32,263 --> 00:24:34,808
but make it personal to him...
471
00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:43,817
And if it is possible,
472
00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:45,860
and I think it is possible,
473
00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:49,072
to make an art/horror
film,
474
00:24:49,114 --> 00:24:52,659
David Cronenberg is one
of the few who can do it.
475
00:24:55,912 --> 00:24:57,747
And the thing
with "The Brood"
476
00:24:57,789 --> 00:24:59,457
is he calls it
his horror version
477
00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:01,376
of "Kramer vs. Kramer,"
478
00:25:01,418 --> 00:25:04,087
because he was going through,
like, a bitter custody dispute
479
00:25:04,129 --> 00:25:06,464
at the time, and "The Brood"
is his way of, um...
480
00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:09,676
Dealing with it.
481
00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:12,470
Art Hindle plays the husband
482
00:25:12,512 --> 00:25:15,140
to this woman
played by Samantha Eggar,
483
00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:16,683
who has left him and gone
484
00:25:16,725 --> 00:25:18,476
and joined this, uh,
485
00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:21,813
experimental therapy commune
486
00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:24,232
which is run by a doctor
named Hal Raglan,
487
00:25:24,274 --> 00:25:26,151
played by Oliver Reed.
488
00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:28,153
Right now you're dreaming.
489
00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:30,822
From what Frank tells me, it
was lousy from the very start.
490
00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:33,033
You never had anything
real together.
491
00:25:34,075 --> 00:25:36,995
The husband
has been sending the daughter
492
00:25:37,037 --> 00:25:39,914
to go visit periodically
and then he starts to believe
493
00:25:39,956 --> 00:25:42,667
that the mother
is harming the daughter
494
00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:44,687
because the daughter
keeps coming home with bruises
495
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,504
and marks on her body.
496
00:25:46,546 --> 00:25:48,339
And that's very
unfair of him.
497
00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,008
That's very arrogant of him.
498
00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:52,886
You mus'n't be too hard
on him, Nola, sweetheart.
499
00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:55,597
He's just trying to be
a good protective father.
500
00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:58,058
She needs to stay very
far away from her child, uh,
501
00:25:58,099 --> 00:26:00,852
but her body is reacting
to this rage
502
00:26:00,894 --> 00:26:03,396
and manifesting these weird
503
00:26:03,438 --> 00:26:05,315
creature children.
504
00:26:10,403 --> 00:26:11,988
They're children, Frank.
505
00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:15,075
Or exactly, they're
the children of her rage.
506
00:26:15,116 --> 00:26:16,993
They're motivated
only by her anger,
507
00:26:17,035 --> 00:26:19,871
whether that anger is conscious
or subconscious.
508
00:26:20,997 --> 00:26:24,959
I mean, when... when Nola got
cross with Candy last weekend,
509
00:26:25,001 --> 00:26:28,546
annoyed really,
the brood beat her.
510
00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:31,174
A lot of films have an idea
511
00:26:31,216 --> 00:26:34,886
of one of your, like, fears
or anxieties being made flesh,
512
00:26:34,928 --> 00:26:37,555
and in that movie,
they actually do it.
513
00:26:37,597 --> 00:26:39,140
That's what the movie is about.
514
00:26:39,182 --> 00:26:41,184
People are so angry
515
00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:43,812
that some people can develop
physical welts
516
00:26:43,853 --> 00:26:45,480
through their anger,
517
00:26:45,522 --> 00:26:48,233
and one woman can actually
develop extra beings,
518
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,484
she is so angry.
519
00:26:52,487 --> 00:26:53,863
Aah!
520
00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:58,076
The look of them, it was
so imaginative, you know?
521
00:26:58,118 --> 00:27:01,329
They have no navel,
and they can't speak,
522
00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:03,832
and they have a cleft palate.
523
00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:05,518
It's just, you know,
they were born of something
524
00:27:05,542 --> 00:27:07,001
that should never
have happened.
525
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,964
There's a really creepy shot
526
00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:12,715
where they kidnap
the main character's kid,
527
00:27:12,757 --> 00:27:15,093
the two parka monsters,
528
00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:17,053
and they're just three kids
walking down a road
529
00:27:17,095 --> 00:27:19,764
in the snow
and a car drives past.
530
00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,434
Kids in horror together
531
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,895
is always something
that's unsettling to watch.
532
00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:28,439
Ooh, you do...
this margin.
533
00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:34,571
A scene, like, where
the school teacher is murdered
534
00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:36,489
by the brood in front
of the kids
535
00:27:36,531 --> 00:27:38,616
is so deeply distressing...
536
00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:41,286
Don't... oh!
537
00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:44,581
Aah, ow!
538
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,377
You know,
the guardian is, like, killed
539
00:27:49,419 --> 00:27:52,922
in front of the kids by these
monsters is, like, terrifying.
540
00:27:52,964 --> 00:27:56,134
One most of the most, like,
terrifying scenes in cinema.
541
00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:02,724
And I'm sure that's a scene
542
00:28:02,765 --> 00:28:04,475
where a lot of critics
wrote that film off
543
00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:06,019
on the basis
of that scene alone.
544
00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:07,746
It was like, "No, you've
crossed a line here."
545
00:28:10,315 --> 00:28:12,567
Art Hindle discovers
what's happening
546
00:28:12,609 --> 00:28:13,669
and he has to confront her.
547
00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,993
When he actually sees
what his wife is doing...
548
00:28:23,578 --> 00:28:25,830
And you see her manifesting
one of these...
549
00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:27,874
these children and licking it
550
00:28:27,916 --> 00:28:30,835
like a... like a mother cat
licks a newborn kitten.
551
00:28:33,254 --> 00:28:34,756
It is sensational.
552
00:28:34,797 --> 00:28:37,133
Oh, God, Nola.
553
00:28:39,052 --> 00:28:41,095
No.
554
00:28:41,137 --> 00:28:43,097
I disgust you.
555
00:28:43,139 --> 00:28:44,408
The film is not
especially sympathetic
556
00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:46,184
towards the mother,
557
00:28:46,226 --> 00:28:47,411
the female character,
Samantha Eggar.
558
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:49,520
You hate me.
559
00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:52,148
But if you talk to
a lot of women
560
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,900
who love that film, you know,
561
00:28:53,942 --> 00:28:55,735
they get very different things
out of it.
562
00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:58,071
30 seconds after you're born,
you have a past,
563
00:28:58,112 --> 00:28:59,989
and 60 seconds after that,
564
00:29:00,031 --> 00:29:02,158
you start to lie to yourself
about it.
565
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,035
The anxiety
around having children,
566
00:29:04,077 --> 00:29:07,455
around loving children,
loving them too much,
567
00:29:07,497 --> 00:29:09,624
um, wanting to destroy them...
568
00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:12,168
What if there's a sort
of mutant quality to the...
569
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:14,212
to the children
we bring in to the world?
570
00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,216
The ultimate message
of the film
571
00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:21,886
is that broken marriages
create broken children.
572
00:29:21,928 --> 00:29:24,389
I love the end
of "The Brood"
573
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,641
where it closes in
on the little girl,
574
00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:30,353
and you see the rage blisters
developing on her arm.
575
00:29:30,395 --> 00:29:32,230
She's Mommy's girl.
576
00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:36,818
Society expects parents
577
00:29:36,859 --> 00:29:39,028
to love their children
unconditionally,
578
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:41,155
no matter how awful
they may be,
579
00:29:41,197 --> 00:29:43,324
but everyone has their limits.
580
00:29:50,081 --> 00:29:51,624
Honey?
581
00:29:51,666 --> 00:29:52,917
Frank?
582
00:29:52,959 --> 00:29:54,961
Somebody kicking again?
583
00:29:55,003 --> 00:29:57,255
No, it stopped.
584
00:29:58,172 --> 00:29:59,924
Some men
have problems adapting
585
00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:01,926
to the increased
responsibilities
586
00:30:01,968 --> 00:30:03,970
and stresses
that come with fatherhood.
587
00:30:04,012 --> 00:30:06,222
We're slowly but surely
poisoning ourselves,
588
00:30:06,264 --> 00:30:07,765
you know that?
589
00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,407
Fine world to bring
a kid into, fellas.
590
00:30:11,311 --> 00:30:12,991
The problem
is particularly acute
591
00:30:13,021 --> 00:30:15,606
when your child
is a monster baby.
592
00:30:25,783 --> 00:30:27,994
"It's Alive" was made
in the mid '70s
593
00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:29,871
by Larry Cohen.
594
00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:35,543
And it's the story
of an experimental drug
595
00:30:35,585 --> 00:30:36,794
that has the effect
596
00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:39,505
of turning these babies
597
00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:42,717
into little demonic...
598
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:44,635
You know the song "Baby Shark?"
599
00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:48,890
Baby sharks.
You know, they are babies,
600
00:30:48,931 --> 00:30:51,309
but they have giant fangs,
and they're carnivorous.
601
00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:54,937
Rick Baker did this baby
which, you know,
602
00:30:54,979 --> 00:30:56,814
is... is fairly inanimate,
603
00:30:56,856 --> 00:31:00,109
and... and so you've gotta be
careful how you cut around it
604
00:31:00,151 --> 00:31:01,569
because it's not really
very mobile.
605
00:31:01,611 --> 00:31:03,821
It's more of an idea.
606
00:31:03,863 --> 00:31:06,574
And it's a very clever movie.
607
00:31:06,616 --> 00:31:08,993
"It's Alive"
was a low-budget movie
608
00:31:09,035 --> 00:31:11,412
that explored big ideas.
609
00:31:11,454 --> 00:31:12,872
It's a human, doctor.
610
00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:14,224
That's what's disgusting
to you, isn't it?
611
00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:16,918
It kills like an animal.
612
00:31:16,959 --> 00:31:18,711
And when we find it,
613
00:31:18,753 --> 00:31:21,172
we're gonna have to destroy it
like one.
614
00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:23,841
The rampaging baby
isn't evil;
615
00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,302
it's a frightened
and confused newborn.
616
00:31:26,344 --> 00:31:28,262
The real villains
of "It's Alive"
617
00:31:28,304 --> 00:31:30,598
are the mother's
untrustworthy doctors
618
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,184
who are being paid off
by drug companies
619
00:31:33,226 --> 00:31:35,019
to push
their defective products.
620
00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:37,897
We have an opening
on the board
621
00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:40,691
of our research
and development department.
622
00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:44,070
Now, we wouldn't want people
to lose faith in us, would we?
623
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,910
In the '50s and '60s, there
was a drug called Thalidomide
624
00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:53,037
that was sold
to expectant mothers,
625
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,374
and it created
horrific birth defects.
626
00:31:56,416 --> 00:32:00,044
Mrs. Davis, I don't suppose
you took the pills I gave you?
627
00:32:00,086 --> 00:32:02,672
You really should, you know.
628
00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:04,900
Maybe it's all the pills
I've been taking over the years
629
00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:06,968
that brought this on.
630
00:32:07,009 --> 00:32:10,388
This is a movie
that came out of a real horror.
631
00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:13,975
Where are you?
Look out, Charley!
632
00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,415
"It's Alive" dramatizes
the idea of, you know,
633
00:32:19,439 --> 00:32:21,858
a monster kind of born,
you know,
634
00:32:21,899 --> 00:32:23,776
and it's because
of environmental factors
635
00:32:23,818 --> 00:32:26,404
so it works in that
whole eco-horror theme,
636
00:32:26,446 --> 00:32:29,449
but it's also just very much
about the idea, you know,
637
00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:31,576
that for men,
childbirth is something
638
00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:34,495
over which they're going
to exercise little control,
639
00:32:34,537 --> 00:32:36,205
and, you know,
640
00:32:36,247 --> 00:32:37,683
what's going to happen,
you know, with this birth?
641
00:32:42,044 --> 00:32:44,088
With his monster child
on the loose,
642
00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:46,215
the father's life
falls apart.
643
00:32:46,257 --> 00:32:47,443
Mr. Davis,
what did it look like,
644
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:49,010
if you were to describe
it to us?
645
00:32:49,051 --> 00:32:51,095
Leave me alone.
I've got nothing to say.
646
00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:52,448
When the story
gets out, he loses his job;
647
00:32:52,472 --> 00:32:53,931
he's harassed by the media;
648
00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:56,017
and his family life crumbles.
649
00:32:56,058 --> 00:32:57,351
Get outta my way!
650
00:32:57,393 --> 00:32:58,936
I don't know
what it looks like.
651
00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:00,414
- Where is your baby?
- Never mind my baby!
652
00:33:00,438 --> 00:33:02,273
Leave my wife out of it,
you understand me?
653
00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:04,275
John Ryan in "It's live,"
654
00:33:04,317 --> 00:33:06,027
an absolutely
amazing performance.
655
00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:08,112
He's really powerful,
really compelling.
656
00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:10,031
And why is everybody
looking at me?
657
00:33:11,407 --> 00:33:13,201
Yeah.
658
00:33:13,242 --> 00:33:15,786
Like it's my own flesh
and blood or something.
659
00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:19,999
Well, it's not,
understand?
660
00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,461
It's no relation to me.
661
00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:25,421
By the film's climax,
662
00:33:25,463 --> 00:33:27,215
the father
is helping the police
663
00:33:27,256 --> 00:33:28,966
chase his killer newborn
664
00:33:29,008 --> 00:33:30,968
through the storm drains
of LA.
665
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:33,221
There's the innate funny
of, like,
666
00:33:33,262 --> 00:33:34,698
guys with shotguns going out
to hunt babies.
667
00:33:42,188 --> 00:33:44,190
That moment when
he realizes, like, he can't
668
00:33:44,232 --> 00:33:47,109
'cause it's his child
is just... that's amazing.
669
00:33:47,151 --> 00:33:48,736
That's an incredible sequence.
670
00:33:48,778 --> 00:33:50,988
Can you hear me, Frank?
671
00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:53,282
It can't be saved!
It's gotta die!
672
00:33:53,324 --> 00:33:55,576
Do you hear me, Frank?
673
00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:03,167
John Ryan's dealing with
those conflicting emotions
674
00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:04,835
of, "My kid's a monster,
but he's my kid.
675
00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:06,254
I must protect him,"
676
00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:07,171
and that's, you know,
a primal urge.
677
00:34:09,423 --> 00:34:11,467
Like many confused patriarchs
678
00:34:11,509 --> 00:34:13,302
who weathered
the social storms
679
00:34:13,344 --> 00:34:15,388
of the '60s and '70s,
680
00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:17,189
the father comes to accept
his problem child.
681
00:34:18,766 --> 00:34:21,352
It can't hurt anybody!
682
00:34:21,394 --> 00:34:23,372
Hey, look, if you fellas shoot,
you're gonna shoot me.
683
00:34:23,396 --> 00:34:25,040
Now, put the weapon down.
Look, it's harmless.
684
00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:26,064
Take it easy.
Take it easy.
685
00:34:29,193 --> 00:34:31,362
Other films
have tried to recapture
686
00:34:31,404 --> 00:34:33,281
the shock of "It's Alive."
687
00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:38,703
Aah!
688
00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:43,791
But no one has
even attempted to top
689
00:34:43,833 --> 00:34:45,918
the ultimate evil baby movie:
690
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,962
"Eraserhead."
691
00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:55,344
Of all the movies ever made
692
00:34:55,386 --> 00:34:57,555
about the terrors
of parenthood,
693
00:34:57,597 --> 00:35:00,057
nothing to compares
to David Lynch's masterpiece,
694
00:35:00,099 --> 00:35:01,267
"Eraserhead."
695
00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:09,400
"Eraserhead" is not what
people would think of
696
00:35:09,442 --> 00:35:11,902
as horror in the traditional
sense, but, boy,
697
00:35:11,944 --> 00:35:14,155
that's what makes horror
such an interesting genre,
698
00:35:14,196 --> 00:35:15,756
'cause you can fit
so many things in it.
699
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,950
Because as an adult,
700
00:35:17,992 --> 00:35:22,079
I can't think of very many
movies I found that disturbing
701
00:35:22,121 --> 00:35:23,581
and horrifying and scary.
702
00:35:29,879 --> 00:35:32,798
Lynch is just one
of those filmmakers
703
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,759
who... he opens the medium up
for you, you know?
704
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,636
Like, you watch a Lynch film
and you realize,
705
00:35:36,677 --> 00:35:38,763
"Oh, like, there's so much
that can be done."
706
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:43,643
"Eraserhead's"
plot defies description,
707
00:35:43,684 --> 00:35:47,146
but it begins as the movie's
protagonist, Henry,
708
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:50,107
arrives for dinner
with his girlfriend, Mary,
709
00:35:50,149 --> 00:35:51,942
at her parents' house.
710
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,490
It's completely surreal
and a completely alien world,
711
00:35:57,531 --> 00:36:00,117
but so sticks
to its own rules,
712
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,245
that it just attains
a reality all its own.
713
00:36:06,374 --> 00:36:08,959
She'll be all right
in a minute.
714
00:36:10,795 --> 00:36:12,522
Every time I see the film,
I see something different.
715
00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:14,090
I have a different experience.
716
00:36:14,131 --> 00:36:15,567
Scenes that disturbed me
now make me laugh,
717
00:36:15,591 --> 00:36:16,735
things that made me laugh
now disturb me,
718
00:36:16,759 --> 00:36:18,427
often simultaneously.
719
00:36:18,469 --> 00:36:22,139
You're very bad trouble
if you won't cooperate.
720
00:36:29,772 --> 00:36:31,607
Well, I...
721
00:36:34,026 --> 00:36:35,986
Mary!
722
00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,738
Mother!
723
00:36:37,780 --> 00:36:41,325
So much of Lynch is sort of,
like, deliberately wrong.
724
00:36:41,367 --> 00:36:44,161
There's a baby.
It's at the hospital.
725
00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:46,747
- Mom!
- And you're the father.
726
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,875
That's impossible.
It's only been...
727
00:36:49,917 --> 00:36:52,169
Mother, they're still
not sure it is a baby!
728
00:36:52,211 --> 00:36:54,755
It's premature,
but there's a baby!
729
00:36:54,797 --> 00:36:57,299
And it's just wrong
in the right way.
730
00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:04,557
The first thing you see
onscreen in "Eraserhead"
731
00:37:04,598 --> 00:37:07,852
is, like... is Henry, his head
is just floating in space,
732
00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:12,022
and he's emitting all of these
umbilical weird creatures
733
00:37:12,064 --> 00:37:13,357
out of his mouth.
734
00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:23,534
And then when you see
The Lady in the Radiator,
735
00:37:23,576 --> 00:37:24,636
they're falling
from the ceiling,
736
00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:25,786
and she's stepping on them.
737
00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:34,712
She's stepping on these
creatures that he has...
738
00:37:34,754 --> 00:37:36,881
These, like,
weird, ugly creatures
739
00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,049
that he's birthed.
740
00:37:43,763 --> 00:37:45,907
And then she's just singing,
"In Heaven Everything is Fine."
741
00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:49,226
♪ In heaven ♪
742
00:37:49,268 --> 00:37:52,897
♪ Everything is fine ♪
743
00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:55,566
♪ In heaven ♪
744
00:37:55,608 --> 00:37:59,236
♪ Everything is fine ♪
745
00:37:59,278 --> 00:38:01,322
It's, like,
she's just assuring him,
746
00:38:01,363 --> 00:38:03,574
like, "No matter what
kind of ugly creature
747
00:38:03,616 --> 00:38:06,535
you give birth to,
everything's gonna be okay."
748
00:38:06,577 --> 00:38:11,499
♪ You got your good things ♪
749
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:14,835
♪ And I've got mine ♪
750
00:38:16,754 --> 00:38:18,547
So many people told me
how weird it was,
751
00:38:18,589 --> 00:38:21,759
and I didn't... I go, "Oh, this
is a movie about a guy
752
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:24,386
"you know,
afraid of getting married
753
00:38:24,428 --> 00:38:26,972
and having a kid, you know?"
754
00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:34,939
And you watch it,
and you go,
755
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:36,583
"I bet this guy was, you kn,
married and had a kid
756
00:38:36,607 --> 00:38:38,067
and was freaked out."
757
00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:39,276
Shut up!
758
00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:46,116
Shut up!
759
00:38:46,158 --> 00:38:48,619
And then I, you know,
read his book,
760
00:38:48,661 --> 00:38:50,120
and, yeah, he was.
761
00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:51,705
You know, it was just, like,
762
00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,624
it was an artistic expression
of his fears.
763
00:38:53,666 --> 00:38:56,085
I can't stand it!
I'm going home.
764
00:38:56,126 --> 00:38:59,630
Getting this girl pregnant
who's a little crazy,
765
00:38:59,672 --> 00:39:02,633
and she doesn't like him,
and, you know,
766
00:39:02,675 --> 00:39:04,402
and they have this really
acrimonious relationship.
767
00:39:04,426 --> 00:39:05,803
You're on vacation now!
768
00:39:05,845 --> 00:39:08,347
You can take care of it
for a night!
769
00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:10,140
And the fear
of having a baby,
770
00:39:10,182 --> 00:39:12,309
and what if that baby
is deformed?
771
00:39:17,231 --> 00:39:20,860
"Eraserhead," I think,
more than any evil child film
772
00:39:20,901 --> 00:39:26,824
perfectly encapsulates
the anxiety of a parent.
773
00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:34,623
That what you will
give birth to
774
00:39:34,665 --> 00:39:37,376
is this uncontrollable monster.
775
00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:47,887
I always remember
when the baby's crying,
776
00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:50,097
and it's in the night
777
00:39:50,139 --> 00:39:52,683
and then he turns on the light
778
00:39:52,725 --> 00:39:54,894
and... and the baby has all
the sores over his face.
779
00:39:56,812 --> 00:40:00,274
- Jack Nance goes...
- "Oh, you are sick."
780
00:40:00,316 --> 00:40:03,027
I was like,
"Jesus Christ."
781
00:40:07,948 --> 00:40:10,409
Of course the ending
where he kills the baby.
782
00:40:19,627 --> 00:40:21,170
I mean, every time
I see that film,
783
00:40:21,211 --> 00:40:22,713
I'm shocked at that ending
784
00:40:22,755 --> 00:40:24,340
because it seems
to rush at you.
785
00:40:29,637 --> 00:40:31,388
And just knock the wind
out of you.
786
00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:37,895
I guess he transcends,
right?
787
00:40:37,937 --> 00:40:41,440
And then he's embraced
by The Lady in the Radiator.
788
00:40:44,568 --> 00:40:46,987
You don't know exactly
what it meant literally
789
00:40:47,029 --> 00:40:50,616
to know what it meant
figuratively, subtextually.
790
00:40:53,535 --> 00:40:56,497
It's a pretty unique movie
791
00:40:56,538 --> 00:40:58,791
that stands alone, you know,
in that way.
792
00:41:01,043 --> 00:41:04,046
It's really unnerving,
but it means something.
793
00:41:04,088 --> 00:41:08,050
It's not just kind of surface
and there for effect.
794
00:41:08,092 --> 00:41:11,095
It's just very honest
and heartbreaking.
795
00:41:14,723 --> 00:41:16,976
The chilling
children and terrible tykes
796
00:41:17,017 --> 00:41:18,602
of the movies
can be frightening,
797
00:41:18,644 --> 00:41:20,104
especially if you're a parent.
798
00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:24,274
But they can also
be oddly comforting.
799
00:41:26,819 --> 00:41:28,737
Showing us
that no matter how
800
00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:30,572
difficult your son
or daughter may be,
801
00:41:30,614 --> 00:41:32,241
things could be much worse.
802
00:41:34,284 --> 00:41:36,620
So if you're thinking
of having a baby,
803
00:41:36,662 --> 00:41:38,831
but having second thoughts,
don't worry.
804
00:41:38,872 --> 00:41:42,459
Your kids will
probably turn out just fine.
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