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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,212 --> 00:00:03,814 Thinking about having children? 2 00:00:03,838 --> 00:00:06,090 Aah! 3 00:00:06,132 --> 00:00:08,551 You might wanna watch this first... 4 00:00:10,178 --> 00:00:12,263 The girls hate Carrie because she's different. 5 00:00:13,681 --> 00:00:15,683 She is the hero wronged by society. 6 00:00:17,143 --> 00:00:19,395 And, society, this is what you get. 7 00:00:21,564 --> 00:00:24,442 Bring them back here. Right here to me! 8 00:00:25,693 --> 00:00:28,071 You say a child is a bad seed... 9 00:00:29,155 --> 00:00:30,823 Everyone knows what you mean. 10 00:00:32,992 --> 00:00:33,784 Something that's supposed to be so innocent 11 00:00:33,785 --> 00:00:34,743 becoming so evil. 12 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:39,415 And now it's something that can harm you. 13 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:42,228 You don't know what's going on inside that kid. 14 00:00:42,252 --> 00:00:45,630 Leave us alone. 15 00:00:45,672 --> 00:00:47,382 Maybe they're just being a weird kid, 16 00:00:47,423 --> 00:00:49,592 or maybe you're about to die. 17 00:00:51,386 --> 00:00:52,887 "Children of the Corn" is, like, 18 00:00:52,929 --> 00:00:54,389 the ultimate creepy kid flick. 19 00:00:54,430 --> 00:00:56,683 We want to give you peace. 20 00:00:56,724 --> 00:00:58,118 You're just like, "Oh, these kids are." 21 00:01:00,228 --> 00:01:01,813 What could be more frightening 22 00:01:01,854 --> 00:01:03,690 than your child gone wrong? 23 00:01:07,110 --> 00:01:08,587 People without children don't realize how lucky they are. 24 00:01:39,851 --> 00:01:41,769 The chilling children of horror 25 00:01:41,811 --> 00:01:42,854 come in many forms. 26 00:01:42,895 --> 00:01:44,063 Help me. 27 00:01:46,441 --> 00:01:48,318 Some are born with the seeds of evil 28 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:49,777 lurking inside them. 29 00:01:54,824 --> 00:01:57,910 A few are good kids possessed by evil entities. 30 00:01:57,952 --> 00:01:59,454 And I'm the devil. 31 00:02:00,663 --> 00:02:03,333 And then there's Carrie, 32 00:02:03,374 --> 00:02:06,419 a good girl who does some very bad things. 33 00:02:07,754 --> 00:02:11,424 Based on Stephen King's terrifying debut novel, 34 00:02:11,466 --> 00:02:15,053 "Carrie" begins with blood and trauma. 35 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:20,850 Sissy Spacek plays a teenage girl so sheltered and naive, 36 00:02:20,892 --> 00:02:22,685 that when she has her first menstruation 37 00:02:22,727 --> 00:02:25,772 in a high school shower, she thinks she's dying. 38 00:02:25,813 --> 00:02:27,940 Help me! Help me! 39 00:02:27,982 --> 00:02:30,234 Have a tampon. 40 00:02:30,276 --> 00:02:31,545 And her classmates brutally shame her for it. 41 00:02:31,569 --> 00:02:33,988 Hey, Norma, Carrie's on her period. 42 00:02:34,030 --> 00:02:36,783 I don't even think we're thinking about what happeed, 43 00:02:36,824 --> 00:02:38,159 or what's wrong with her; 44 00:02:38,201 --> 00:02:39,721 we're just dis... just repelled by her. 45 00:02:42,497 --> 00:02:45,583 It's really about how mean kids can be, 46 00:02:45,625 --> 00:02:48,586 and if you're different, we're gonna torture you. 47 00:02:48,628 --> 00:02:50,463 You know? And you will pay for it. 48 00:02:50,505 --> 00:02:53,925 Put it on, put it on, put it on, put it on! 49 00:02:53,966 --> 00:02:56,344 The traumatic passage into womanhood 50 00:02:56,386 --> 00:02:59,430 awakens Carrie's latent psychic powers. 51 00:03:03,101 --> 00:03:06,437 Carrie's tormenters are punished for their cruelty. 52 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,649 Bad girl Chris is out for revenge, 53 00:03:09,691 --> 00:03:13,194 while good girl Sue wants to atone for her sin. 54 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:18,950 She persuades her boyfriend to ask Carrie to the senior prom. 55 00:03:18,991 --> 00:03:20,969 If you don't have a date to the prom next Friday, 56 00:03:20,993 --> 00:03:22,096 would you like to go with me? 57 00:03:25,373 --> 00:03:28,626 I always saw him as conflicted, 58 00:03:28,668 --> 00:03:33,089 but always very virtuous, wanting to do the right thing. 59 00:03:33,131 --> 00:03:34,841 I've been invited to the prom. 60 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:37,677 Prom? 61 00:03:39,637 --> 00:03:41,240 The abuse Carrie suffers at school 62 00:03:41,264 --> 00:03:43,182 pales next to what she endures 63 00:03:43,224 --> 00:03:44,976 from her hyper-religious mother. 64 00:03:50,106 --> 00:03:54,402 It's extraordinary to me that people were frightened by me 65 00:03:54,444 --> 00:03:57,905 because it was such a... it was like a vacation for me, 66 00:03:57,947 --> 00:04:01,868 and I hadn't laughed that much in a long time at myself. 67 00:04:01,909 --> 00:04:04,120 The boys. Yes, the boys. 68 00:04:05,705 --> 00:04:09,834 After the blood come the boys like sniffing dogs. 69 00:04:09,876 --> 00:04:13,296 Really, you have in Margaret White someone who is terrified 70 00:04:13,337 --> 00:04:16,048 that the world is going to 71 00:04:16,090 --> 00:04:18,342 tear her daughter apart, 72 00:04:18,384 --> 00:04:22,138 and almost preemptively, she starts to tear her apart 73 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:24,432 before the world gets a chance to do it. 74 00:04:24,474 --> 00:04:28,102 Mama, I'll get them. Please sit and talk to me! 75 00:04:38,696 --> 00:04:41,115 I'm going, Mama. 76 00:04:41,157 --> 00:04:44,076 Carrie's prom shows director Brian De Palma 77 00:04:44,118 --> 00:04:45,870 at his best, 78 00:04:45,912 --> 00:04:47,622 balancing technical virtuosity 79 00:04:47,663 --> 00:04:49,832 with strong emotional storytelling. 80 00:04:49,874 --> 00:04:54,504 The prom scene took two to three weeks to shoot. 81 00:04:54,545 --> 00:04:56,881 It was the longest sequence in the film. 82 00:04:56,923 --> 00:04:59,091 It was the big set piece, of course. 83 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:02,762 Nobody I've worked with has done as many takes as Brian. 84 00:05:03,930 --> 00:05:06,808 That prom scene is just really muscular filmmaking. 85 00:05:06,849 --> 00:05:09,101 Like, just what he's doing with the camera 86 00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:10,853 is so exciting. 87 00:05:10,895 --> 00:05:12,688 Why am I here with you? 88 00:05:15,316 --> 00:05:17,735 Because I asked you. 89 00:05:17,777 --> 00:05:19,737 You know, even when they're dancing, 90 00:05:19,779 --> 00:05:21,572 and the camera's revolving around them, 91 00:05:21,614 --> 00:05:23,866 and it just starts spinning out of control, 92 00:05:23,908 --> 00:05:26,994 it shouldn't work, and it's... it's really uncanny. 93 00:05:27,036 --> 00:05:30,206 Carrie, we're here. 94 00:05:30,248 --> 00:05:32,917 She's, you know, been cocooned for her whole life 95 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:37,171 with this oppressive religious mother, 96 00:05:37,213 --> 00:05:38,714 and then finally she gets a chance 97 00:05:38,756 --> 00:05:40,800 to emerge as this beautiful butterfly. 98 00:05:43,052 --> 00:05:46,305 You really begin to feel this sense of hope. 99 00:05:47,765 --> 00:05:50,059 And then what happens after that 100 00:05:50,101 --> 00:05:52,478 is just tragic. 101 00:05:53,187 --> 00:05:55,022 Can I have your ballot, please? 102 00:05:55,064 --> 00:05:57,066 Carrie's enemies rig the ballots 103 00:05:57,108 --> 00:05:59,277 so she becomes prom queen, 104 00:05:59,318 --> 00:06:02,071 and so they can spring a terrible trap. 105 00:06:02,113 --> 00:06:04,323 I think everyone always responds to that movie, 106 00:06:04,365 --> 00:06:06,033 where, like, 107 00:06:06,075 --> 00:06:08,286 "We just want it to turn out differently this time." 108 00:06:10,746 --> 00:06:13,583 She's happy; you know, she's just happy for the first time, 109 00:06:13,624 --> 00:06:16,460 and we're so happy to see that 110 00:06:16,502 --> 00:06:19,422 and dreading what we know is coming, 111 00:06:19,463 --> 00:06:21,048 and then it all explodes. 112 00:06:29,056 --> 00:06:30,391 Drenched in blood, Carrie snaps, 113 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:33,019 and her psychic powers erupt. 114 00:06:34,896 --> 00:06:37,189 Sissy Spacek's eyes... she's covered in blood, 115 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:38,733 but her eyes are really big and blue. 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,880 I remember the first time I saw that, 117 00:06:42,904 --> 00:06:44,256 I think I backed up a little bit and went, 118 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:47,241 "Oh, no, oh, this is bad. This is bad. 119 00:06:47,283 --> 00:06:49,702 I've never seen her mad yet. I haven't seen her mad yet." 120 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:55,041 She splits, and De Palma splits the screen. 121 00:06:57,501 --> 00:06:59,295 And when Carrie's personality splits, 122 00:06:59,337 --> 00:07:03,174 and she just looks, it's like the other side takes over. 123 00:07:03,215 --> 00:07:05,009 It's like in the beginning 124 00:07:05,051 --> 00:07:06,570 she has this little bit of power with the drop of blood, 125 00:07:06,594 --> 00:07:08,512 but when she's covered in blood, 126 00:07:08,554 --> 00:07:10,097 that's when it really comes out, 127 00:07:10,139 --> 00:07:11,974 and she's like, "I'm going to make you pay." 128 00:07:17,605 --> 00:07:20,358 Somewhere inside every girl, 129 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:22,151 they can relate to this idea 130 00:07:22,193 --> 00:07:26,072 of feeling like, "My power has been taken away from me, 131 00:07:26,113 --> 00:07:27,698 "and what would I do 132 00:07:27,740 --> 00:07:30,576 if I got all that power and then some back?" 133 00:07:36,082 --> 00:07:39,043 After laying waste to her graduating class, 134 00:07:39,085 --> 00:07:41,003 Carrie goes home 135 00:07:41,045 --> 00:07:42,922 to the less than comforting arms of her mother, 136 00:07:42,964 --> 00:07:45,091 who's decided her daughter must die. 137 00:07:46,509 --> 00:07:48,135 Piper Laurie raises the knife... 138 00:07:50,972 --> 00:07:52,473 Aah! 139 00:07:52,515 --> 00:07:54,141 And then they dd that whole sequence 140 00:07:54,183 --> 00:07:56,268 where the knives "whoos" they twirl through the air. 141 00:07:58,229 --> 00:08:00,629 You know when I first saw i, I didn't know how they did it. 142 00:08:01,691 --> 00:08:04,777 I was wearing this iron vest underneath, 143 00:08:04,819 --> 00:08:08,280 and each place I was going to be hit 144 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:11,409 there was a block of wood underneath 145 00:08:11,450 --> 00:08:15,454 and a hole in the costume with a wire stretched out 146 00:08:15,496 --> 00:08:16,789 to the prop man. 147 00:08:18,833 --> 00:08:20,960 And this knife or can opener would travel 148 00:08:21,002 --> 00:08:23,587 until it hit me, 149 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:25,381 and then I would react. 150 00:08:25,423 --> 00:08:27,675 Aah! Aah! 151 00:08:27,717 --> 00:08:30,970 That one particular scene was always my favorite. 152 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:38,019 And I thought the movie was over, 153 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:40,980 so I was really 100% completely satisfied, 154 00:08:41,022 --> 00:08:43,024 and then of course the arm comes out of the ground 155 00:08:43,065 --> 00:08:44,191 at the end. 156 00:08:48,112 --> 00:08:50,573 Carrie has the greatest jump scare ending ever. 157 00:08:52,992 --> 00:08:54,660 That ending changed movies. 158 00:08:54,702 --> 00:08:56,495 If you were making a horror movie, 159 00:08:56,537 --> 00:08:58,497 you had to have a jump scare at the end, 160 00:08:58,539 --> 00:09:00,416 or the audiences were pissed. 161 00:09:00,458 --> 00:09:02,501 Decades after its release, 162 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:04,545 "Carrie" remains 163 00:09:04,587 --> 00:09:06,839 one of the all time great horror classics, 164 00:09:06,881 --> 00:09:08,966 because while fashions may change, 165 00:09:09,008 --> 00:09:12,762 the misery adolescence is timeless. 166 00:09:13,971 --> 00:09:16,182 Everybody sympathizes with Carrie. 167 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:19,685 The character of Carrie White continues to resonate 168 00:09:19,727 --> 00:09:21,437 generation after generation 169 00:09:21,479 --> 00:09:23,981 because she is sort of, like, this heroic character 170 00:09:24,023 --> 00:09:26,650 for anybody has been marginalized or bullied 171 00:09:26,692 --> 00:09:29,195 or has had an oppressive parent. 172 00:09:31,989 --> 00:09:35,785 It is a warning to all of us to be kind to each other 173 00:09:35,826 --> 00:09:38,245 because you don't know what monster you're making. 174 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:41,916 It's understandable 175 00:09:41,957 --> 00:09:43,894 that a gentle soul could be pushed to the breaking point, 176 00:09:43,918 --> 00:09:47,880 but some children defy understanding. 177 00:09:48,923 --> 00:09:52,968 Like the anel-faced tikes with murder in their hearts. 178 00:09:58,015 --> 00:09:59,975 What is the nature of evil? 179 00:10:01,727 --> 00:10:03,312 Is it learned behavior? 180 00:10:03,354 --> 00:10:04,688 Or are some kids just born bad? 181 00:10:06,607 --> 00:10:08,818 When a child kills, 182 00:10:08,859 --> 00:10:10,903 do we blame the parents? 183 00:10:10,945 --> 00:10:12,822 - Say good-bye. - No! 184 00:10:12,863 --> 00:10:14,323 Or faulty brain chemistry? 185 00:10:20,162 --> 00:10:22,581 Those difficult questions are at the heart of two films 186 00:10:22,623 --> 00:10:24,416 made half a century apart 187 00:10:24,458 --> 00:10:26,335 in two very different Americas. 188 00:10:26,377 --> 00:10:28,379 What are all these people watching? 189 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:30,339 People like me. 190 00:10:30,381 --> 00:10:33,759 "We Need to Tk About Kevin" from 2011 191 00:10:33,801 --> 00:10:37,054 and "The Bad Seed" from 1956. 192 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:42,560 "We Need to Talk About Kevin" is an evil child film 193 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:44,270 for the era of school shootings. 194 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:49,608 Through disjointed flashbacks, 195 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:51,485 the film traces the relationship 196 00:10:51,527 --> 00:10:53,320 of a reluctant mother to her son. 197 00:10:53,362 --> 00:10:55,781 Kevin's an inscrutable psychopath 198 00:10:55,823 --> 00:10:58,284 who makes her life hell as a oddler 199 00:10:58,325 --> 00:11:01,162 and ends up a teenage mass murderer. 200 00:11:03,664 --> 00:11:04,957 What could be more frightening 201 00:11:04,999 --> 00:11:06,959 than your child gone wrong? 202 00:11:07,001 --> 00:11:10,379 I mean how organic is that? 203 00:11:10,421 --> 00:11:12,548 How horrendous would that be? 204 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:15,634 Because you're there for at least 18 years, man. 205 00:11:15,676 --> 00:11:17,803 However your kids comes out, 206 00:11:17,845 --> 00:11:19,555 you have a responsibility. 207 00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:24,852 It's almost just every parent's nightmare 208 00:11:24,894 --> 00:11:26,729 than anything else. 209 00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:33,777 It's highly relatable, 210 00:11:33,819 --> 00:11:35,487 because I think every parent 211 00:11:35,529 --> 00:11:38,157 experiences that "what if" moment. 212 00:11:38,199 --> 00:11:41,994 You know, what if my daughter or son did this or that? 213 00:11:43,204 --> 00:11:45,915 Kevin's guilt-ridden mother is haunted 214 00:11:45,956 --> 00:11:48,167 by not knowing if her child was born bad, 215 00:11:48,209 --> 00:11:51,503 or if her failures as a mother made him a monster. 216 00:11:53,214 --> 00:11:56,425 There's a very contemporary kind of engagement 217 00:11:56,467 --> 00:11:59,553 with the discussions of what's sometimes referred to 218 00:11:59,595 --> 00:12:01,639 as the Mommy Wars. 219 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:04,433 Just a continual question 220 00:12:04,475 --> 00:12:08,395 of how much time, energy, 221 00:12:08,437 --> 00:12:10,272 and emotional attachment 222 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:12,942 do mothers need to give to their children? 223 00:12:14,026 --> 00:12:16,737 And you know, all kinds of guilt accorded to mothers 224 00:12:16,779 --> 00:12:18,530 who supposedly do not give 225 00:12:18,572 --> 00:12:21,742 enough emotional time and energy to their children. 226 00:12:21,784 --> 00:12:23,911 Looks like someone's having a nice day. 227 00:12:23,953 --> 00:12:25,537 Enjoying yourself? 228 00:12:25,579 --> 00:12:27,957 I'm sorry? Ooh! 229 00:12:27,998 --> 00:12:31,418 I think culturally, that's what we do to women 230 00:12:31,460 --> 00:12:36,257 who don't always live up to the ideal of, like, 231 00:12:36,298 --> 00:12:39,051 "Oh, my God, I love my beautiful child. 232 00:12:39,093 --> 00:12:41,470 My child is just the most wonderful thing." 233 00:12:41,512 --> 00:12:43,055 I don't like that. 234 00:12:43,097 --> 00:12:46,433 Mommy was happy befow wittle Kevin came along. 235 00:12:46,475 --> 00:12:47,977 You know dat? 236 00:12:48,018 --> 00:12:49,812 Basically, I think it's an expose 237 00:12:49,853 --> 00:12:51,730 on how difficult parenthood can be. 238 00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:55,567 Now Mommy wakes up every morning 239 00:12:55,609 --> 00:12:58,279 and wishes she was in France! 240 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,781 You never know exactly what you're gonna get, right? 241 00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:04,285 You're a little clammy. 242 00:13:04,326 --> 00:13:05,869 You feeling okay? 243 00:13:05,911 --> 00:13:08,497 Never better. 244 00:13:08,539 --> 00:13:10,416 Today, 245 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:12,793 the idea of a seemingly normal American kid 246 00:13:12,835 --> 00:13:16,672 committing coldblooded mass murder is a sad fact of life. 247 00:13:16,714 --> 00:13:20,342 In 1956, it ws shocking. 248 00:13:22,344 --> 00:13:24,096 The pigtailed psycho killer 249 00:13:24,138 --> 00:13:25,431 at the heart of "The Bad Seed" 250 00:13:25,472 --> 00:13:28,100 is 8-year-old Rhoda Penmark. 251 00:13:28,142 --> 00:13:31,895 She's the original evil child of horror. 252 00:13:31,937 --> 00:13:33,772 If you say a child is a bad seed, 253 00:13:33,814 --> 00:13:35,149 everyone knows what you mean. 254 00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:37,401 It's part of the, uh... the Lexicon now. 255 00:13:39,153 --> 00:13:42,364 "The Bad Seed" is one of the more chilling 256 00:13:42,406 --> 00:13:44,074 child horror stories 257 00:13:44,116 --> 00:13:47,536 because there's not a supernatural element to it. 258 00:13:47,578 --> 00:13:49,455 She's just an evil kid. 259 00:13:49,496 --> 00:13:52,291 - Good morning, Miss Fern. - Good morning, Rhoda. 260 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:55,169 Always smiling, always nice, always clean-cut, 261 00:13:55,210 --> 00:13:57,838 and then pure evil behind your back. 262 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,717 You've got them hid, but you'd better get them 263 00:14:01,759 --> 00:14:04,803 and bring them back here, right here to me! 264 00:14:06,180 --> 00:14:08,265 Patty McCormack is the bad seed. 265 00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:12,186 It'd had been a play first on Broadway, 266 00:14:12,227 --> 00:14:15,606 and she having played it onstage, 267 00:14:15,647 --> 00:14:17,483 really knew that character. 268 00:14:17,524 --> 00:14:20,986 I thought I'd seen some mean little gals in my time, 269 00:14:21,028 --> 00:14:22,946 but you're the meanest. 270 00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:24,531 And she made it real. 271 00:14:24,573 --> 00:14:27,618 I know what you think. I know everything you think. 272 00:14:30,621 --> 00:14:35,167 Rhoda just thought she was right about everything... 273 00:14:36,502 --> 00:14:40,297 And had no problem, once she had a goal, 274 00:14:40,339 --> 00:14:43,717 and achieving that goal no matter what the cost, 275 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:45,969 and slowly through the film, 276 00:14:46,011 --> 00:14:48,138 the mother realizes 277 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:50,891 that her daughter is different. 278 00:14:52,601 --> 00:14:55,145 Is it true that when blood has been washed off anything, 279 00:14:55,187 --> 00:14:57,815 a policeman can still find if it's there? 280 00:15:00,275 --> 00:15:02,861 "The Bad Seed" arrived in the mid 1950s, 281 00:15:02,903 --> 00:15:06,698 one of the most conservative periods in American history. 282 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:09,868 The generation that grew up during the Great Depression 283 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:13,372 believed in strict discipline and frowned on selfishness. 284 00:15:13,414 --> 00:15:15,582 Rhoda embodied their worst fears 285 00:15:15,624 --> 00:15:17,167 about their own children. 286 00:15:17,209 --> 00:15:19,503 I was a child of the '50s, 287 00:15:19,545 --> 00:15:22,172 and, you know, they hit you... you know what I mean... 288 00:15:22,214 --> 00:15:24,216 when you were naughty. 289 00:15:24,258 --> 00:15:26,051 No one called Child Services, you know? 290 00:15:26,093 --> 00:15:28,220 You made up your mind in one second! 291 00:15:28,262 --> 00:15:32,975 So it was so fun to be free of the constraints 292 00:15:33,016 --> 00:15:34,810 of the time. 293 00:15:34,852 --> 00:15:37,312 And I told him I'd hit him with my shoe 294 00:15:37,354 --> 00:15:39,022 if he didn't give me the medal! 295 00:15:39,064 --> 00:15:41,525 I think the film is definitely at least hinting 296 00:15:41,567 --> 00:15:44,903 at the idea that sort of capitalistic greed 297 00:15:44,945 --> 00:15:48,323 is at the heart of social decay 298 00:15:48,365 --> 00:15:51,076 and maybe of Rhoda's pathology. 299 00:15:51,118 --> 00:15:54,204 Could I have both stones? The garnet too? 300 00:15:54,246 --> 00:15:56,165 Rhoda! 301 00:15:56,206 --> 00:15:57,517 You know, that kind of rugged individualism 302 00:15:57,541 --> 00:16:00,919 in some ways kind of creates monsters 303 00:16:00,961 --> 00:16:02,921 like Rhoda, you know, 304 00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,965 who are willing to do whatever it takes 305 00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:08,093 to get what they want and to succeed. 306 00:16:08,135 --> 00:16:10,679 It's just a more pointed version 307 00:16:10,721 --> 00:16:13,557 of what capitalism encourages everybody to do. 308 00:16:13,599 --> 00:16:16,268 I wish she were mine. 309 00:16:17,478 --> 00:16:19,855 What could be more frightening 310 00:16:19,897 --> 00:16:22,441 than a lone predator stalking us behind a mask of innocence? 311 00:16:23,859 --> 00:16:25,277 A pack of young wolves 312 00:16:25,319 --> 00:16:27,321 thirsting for your blood. 313 00:16:35,162 --> 00:16:37,456 You can never be entirely sure 314 00:16:37,498 --> 00:16:39,291 what kids are thinking. 315 00:16:39,333 --> 00:16:40,685 Or what they might do next. 316 00:16:40,709 --> 00:16:42,669 Aah! 317 00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:44,630 When you gather them together, 318 00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:47,883 that unpredictability leads to fun, troubling, 319 00:16:47,925 --> 00:16:50,135 and transgressive horror films. 320 00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:56,475 Kids are a bit of a mystery, and so in that mystery, 321 00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:59,978 you can tuck some really dark forces. 322 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,980 Maybe they're just being a weird kid, 323 00:17:02,022 --> 00:17:03,857 or maybe you're about to die. 324 00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:07,170 Few children in film history 325 00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:10,072 are as mysterious or as deadly 326 00:17:10,113 --> 00:17:11,907 as the ones in "Village of the Damned." 327 00:17:15,911 --> 00:17:19,206 Five months after everyone in an English village 328 00:17:19,248 --> 00:17:20,874 falls unconscious, 329 00:17:20,916 --> 00:17:23,627 12 strange children are born. 330 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:26,255 They are emotionless, hyper intelligent, 331 00:17:26,296 --> 00:17:30,008 and have the power to read and control people's minds. 332 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:32,344 They're so malevolent, and they're so powerful, 333 00:17:32,386 --> 00:17:35,764 and you can't imagine the human race ever surviving 334 00:17:35,806 --> 00:17:38,767 the war with these kids, the way they get inside your head. 335 00:17:38,809 --> 00:17:42,020 We never know what led to their birth, 336 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:44,147 but we instantly see 337 00:17:44,189 --> 00:17:46,567 that they are convinced of their absolute superiority 338 00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:48,110 to their parents. 339 00:17:48,151 --> 00:17:51,280 You have to be taught to leave us alone. 340 00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:53,865 And that they have a hidden agenda. 341 00:17:53,907 --> 00:17:56,743 Leave us alone. 342 00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:08,672 It's also the innate fear that parents have, 343 00:18:08,714 --> 00:18:12,009 that your child is here to replace you. 344 00:18:12,050 --> 00:18:14,136 What are you going to do with that power? 345 00:18:14,177 --> 00:18:16,013 Father, 346 00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:18,682 we know what you're trying to find out. 347 00:18:18,724 --> 00:18:21,893 It'd be better if you didn't ask these questions. 348 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:24,688 We want to learn from you. 349 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:26,565 They're here because you're leaving... 350 00:18:26,607 --> 00:18:28,442 All right, that'll be all for the day. 351 00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:30,402 And they're gonna take over. 352 00:18:30,444 --> 00:18:34,406 And the anxiety is that they're not gonna wait. 353 00:18:35,407 --> 00:18:37,451 It's no coincidence 354 00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:39,095 that the children bear a strong resemblance 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,496 to fanatical Hitler Youth. 356 00:18:42,664 --> 00:18:45,083 Director Wolf Rilla's family fled Nazi Germany 357 00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,294 when he was 14. 358 00:18:47,336 --> 00:18:51,131 He had seen the indoctrination of minors firsthand. 359 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:54,301 The Nazis were neither the first nor the last 360 00:18:54,343 --> 00:18:57,095 to realize that ideology can be used 361 00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:59,931 to turn children into pitiless killers. 362 00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:04,603 The 1970s, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge used teenagers 363 00:19:04,645 --> 00:19:07,022 to carry out a genocidal campaign 364 00:19:07,064 --> 00:19:09,691 that left nearly 2 million people dead, 365 00:19:09,733 --> 00:19:13,278 including a sizable number of their parents. 366 00:19:14,613 --> 00:19:17,908 Very loosely adapted from a short story by Stephen King, 367 00:19:17,949 --> 00:19:20,952 written when the Khmer Rouge was in power, 368 00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:23,080 "Children of the Corn" 369 00:19:23,121 --> 00:19:25,332 begins with the mass murder of all the adults 370 00:19:25,374 --> 00:19:28,210 in a small town by young religious zealots. 371 00:19:28,251 --> 00:19:30,671 No! 372 00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:32,214 Ay! 373 00:19:32,255 --> 00:19:34,091 Stop it! 374 00:19:34,132 --> 00:19:35,842 What "Children of the Corn" did, 375 00:19:35,884 --> 00:19:37,219 like a lot of, you know, 376 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:38,970 button-pushing movies of the '80s, 377 00:19:39,012 --> 00:19:40,889 is that it made kids killers. 378 00:19:42,641 --> 00:19:43,850 Mom! 379 00:19:43,892 --> 00:19:45,394 In the '80s, 380 00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:47,163 it was very taboo to see kids killing adults, 381 00:19:47,187 --> 00:19:49,147 kids picking up knives, kids being violent. 382 00:19:49,189 --> 00:19:52,275 Don't do it! 383 00:19:55,737 --> 00:19:58,323 "Welcome to Nebraska." 384 00:19:58,365 --> 00:20:00,409 Three years after the massacre, 385 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,786 two travelers find themselves under attack 386 00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:04,830 by the town's corn-worshipping kids. 387 00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:05,997 Aah! 388 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,290 Oh! 389 00:20:07,332 --> 00:20:09,000 Outlander! 390 00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:13,380 They're deemed outlanders 391 00:20:13,422 --> 00:20:15,757 who must be sacrificed to an invisible god 392 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:18,719 called "He Who Walks Behind the Rows." 393 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,014 Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill! 394 00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,516 I kind of love the concept 395 00:20:24,558 --> 00:20:26,560 of taking something so innocent and pure 396 00:20:26,601 --> 00:20:29,730 and turning it into something cruel and malicious. 397 00:20:29,771 --> 00:20:32,274 Praise God! Praise the Lord! 398 00:20:32,315 --> 00:20:34,526 As parents, that's the last thing you want. 399 00:20:34,568 --> 00:20:35,944 You wanna shield your child 400 00:20:35,986 --> 00:20:37,863 from everything wrong in the world, 401 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,365 and so to see them become a part of it is like a nightmare, 402 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:41,783 which makes it scary. 403 00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:47,748 The death cult is led by child preacher, Isaac, 404 00:20:47,789 --> 00:20:49,833 whose grammatical eccentricities 405 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:51,543 rival Jedi Master Yoda. 406 00:20:51,585 --> 00:20:54,588 Question not my judgment, Malachi. 407 00:20:54,629 --> 00:20:57,299 I am the giver of His word. 408 00:20:57,340 --> 00:20:59,760 Isaac's surly lieutenant 409 00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:02,137 is the scenery chewing Malachi. 410 00:21:02,179 --> 00:21:04,347 We want to give you peace. 411 00:21:04,389 --> 00:21:06,016 Bring in the blood of the outlander! 412 00:21:06,057 --> 00:21:08,769 Outlander! Shut your mouth. 413 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,228 Aah! 414 00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:12,147 It's one of those movies that somehow 415 00:21:12,189 --> 00:21:14,149 just got exploited to death. 416 00:21:14,191 --> 00:21:17,611 Like, the VHS 1980s audience 417 00:21:17,652 --> 00:21:19,946 just loved watching "Children of the Corn" movies 418 00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:21,239 for some reason. 419 00:21:21,281 --> 00:21:24,159 No! 420 00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:34,252 Well, what all these movies had in common 421 00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:36,421 was they were about kids 422 00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:39,424 supernaturally punishing their enemies, 423 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,259 and I think that that is something 424 00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:45,013 that is extremely attractive to young people 425 00:21:45,055 --> 00:21:49,059 who feel that they have no control over their lives. 426 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,478 What is it with this corn? 427 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,064 You got me. 428 00:21:54,105 --> 00:21:56,107 Look, there's a little girl. 429 00:22:01,655 --> 00:22:03,406 But for a truly terrifying look 430 00:22:03,448 --> 00:22:05,784 at children turning on adults, 431 00:22:05,826 --> 00:22:08,245 there's a deep-cut horror film you have to see. 432 00:22:11,081 --> 00:22:13,208 Tom! What's she doing? 433 00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:19,798 There's a movie called "Who Can Kill a Child?" 434 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,467 A Spanish movie which, um, involves 435 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,846 an entire island filled with murderous children. 436 00:22:34,729 --> 00:22:38,525 It's like the protagonists are surrounded by wild dogs. 437 00:22:38,567 --> 00:22:40,002 They look cute, but they're gonna bite you. 438 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,657 The children are infected by a psychic virus 439 00:22:45,699 --> 00:22:48,680 that compels them to kill every adult. 440 00:22:48,681 --> 00:22:51,663 Adults are powerless to defend themselves 441 00:22:51,705 --> 00:22:53,623 because who can kill a child? 442 00:22:56,418 --> 00:22:57,711 No! Tom! 443 00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:00,523 You don't wanna punch a child. 444 00:23:00,547 --> 00:23:01,756 You don't wanna kick a child. 445 00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:03,717 They're scary, but you're like, 446 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:06,428 "I can't do anything. It's an actual child." 447 00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:13,935 And so it's a very unnerving thing 448 00:23:13,977 --> 00:23:15,937 to watch a scary child 449 00:23:15,979 --> 00:23:17,779 or a child with a knife or anything like that. 450 00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,447 The real horror of these films 451 00:23:25,488 --> 00:23:28,283 is watching children blinded by ideology, 452 00:23:28,325 --> 00:23:30,994 lacking empathy, filled with rage, 453 00:23:31,036 --> 00:23:32,329 capable of anything. 454 00:23:34,706 --> 00:23:37,709 In other words, children behaving like adults. 455 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,047 Few films have better expressed 456 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:44,174 the fear that our children 457 00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:46,760 are twisted reflections of ourselves than "The Brood." 458 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:56,019 Mutant children begin murdering people 459 00:23:56,061 --> 00:23:57,979 a man's bitter ex-wife doesn't like. 460 00:23:58,021 --> 00:23:59,814 Nola? 461 00:24:01,775 --> 00:24:03,944 He suspects it's connected 462 00:24:03,985 --> 00:24:06,488 to her psychiatrist's radical treatment for anger. 463 00:24:08,615 --> 00:24:12,243 This is David Cronenbers 1979 masterpiece, 464 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,079 "The Brood." - Aah! 465 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,998 That was another movie that I saw as a young person 466 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,418 that just, um, kind of cracks open your mind, you know? 467 00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:26,758 David Cronenberg is one of the few directors 468 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,261 who's able to take an exploitation subject 469 00:24:30,303 --> 00:24:32,222 such as a horror film 470 00:24:32,263 --> 00:24:34,808 but make it personal to him... 471 00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:43,817 And if it is possible, 472 00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:45,860 and I think it is possible, 473 00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:49,072 to make an art/horror film, 474 00:24:49,114 --> 00:24:52,659 David Cronenberg is one of the few who can do it. 475 00:24:55,912 --> 00:24:57,747 And the thing with "The Brood" 476 00:24:57,789 --> 00:24:59,457 is he calls it his horror version 477 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:01,376 of "Kramer vs. Kramer," 478 00:25:01,418 --> 00:25:04,087 because he was going through, like, a bitter custody dispute 479 00:25:04,129 --> 00:25:06,464 at the time, and "The Brood" is his way of, um... 480 00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:09,676 Dealing with it. 481 00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:12,470 Art Hindle plays the husband 482 00:25:12,512 --> 00:25:15,140 to this woman played by Samantha Eggar, 483 00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:16,683 who has left him and gone 484 00:25:16,725 --> 00:25:18,476 and joined this, uh, 485 00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:21,813 experimental therapy commune 486 00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:24,232 which is run by a doctor named Hal Raglan, 487 00:25:24,274 --> 00:25:26,151 played by Oliver Reed. 488 00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:28,153 Right now you're dreaming. 489 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:30,822 From what Frank tells me, it was lousy from the very start. 490 00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:33,033 You never had anything real together. 491 00:25:34,075 --> 00:25:36,995 The husband has been sending the daughter 492 00:25:37,037 --> 00:25:39,914 to go visit periodically and then he starts to believe 493 00:25:39,956 --> 00:25:42,667 that the mother is harming the daughter 494 00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:44,687 because the daughter keeps coming home with bruises 495 00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,504 and marks on her body. 496 00:25:46,546 --> 00:25:48,339 And that's very unfair of him. 497 00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,008 That's very arrogant of him. 498 00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:52,886 You mus'n't be too hard on him, Nola, sweetheart. 499 00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:55,597 He's just trying to be a good protective father. 500 00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:58,058 She needs to stay very far away from her child, uh, 501 00:25:58,099 --> 00:26:00,852 but her body is reacting to this rage 502 00:26:00,894 --> 00:26:03,396 and manifesting these weird 503 00:26:03,438 --> 00:26:05,315 creature children. 504 00:26:10,403 --> 00:26:11,988 They're children, Frank. 505 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:15,075 Or exactly, they're the children of her rage. 506 00:26:15,116 --> 00:26:16,993 They're motivated only by her anger, 507 00:26:17,035 --> 00:26:19,871 whether that anger is conscious or subconscious. 508 00:26:20,997 --> 00:26:24,959 I mean, when... when Nola got cross with Candy last weekend, 509 00:26:25,001 --> 00:26:28,546 annoyed really, the brood beat her. 510 00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:31,174 A lot of films have an idea 511 00:26:31,216 --> 00:26:34,886 of one of your, like, fears or anxieties being made flesh, 512 00:26:34,928 --> 00:26:37,555 and in that movie, they actually do it. 513 00:26:37,597 --> 00:26:39,140 That's what the movie is about. 514 00:26:39,182 --> 00:26:41,184 People are so angry 515 00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:43,812 that some people can develop physical welts 516 00:26:43,853 --> 00:26:45,480 through their anger, 517 00:26:45,522 --> 00:26:48,233 and one woman can actually develop extra beings, 518 00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,484 she is so angry. 519 00:26:52,487 --> 00:26:53,863 Aah! 520 00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:58,076 The look of them, it was so imaginative, you know? 521 00:26:58,118 --> 00:27:01,329 They have no navel, and they can't speak, 522 00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:03,832 and they have a cleft palate. 523 00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:05,518 It's just, you know, they were born of something 524 00:27:05,542 --> 00:27:07,001 that should never have happened. 525 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,964 There's a really creepy shot 526 00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:12,715 where they kidnap the main character's kid, 527 00:27:12,757 --> 00:27:15,093 the two parka monsters, 528 00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:17,053 and they're just three kids walking down a road 529 00:27:17,095 --> 00:27:19,764 in the snow and a car drives past. 530 00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,434 Kids in horror together 531 00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,895 is always something that's unsettling to watch. 532 00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:28,439 Ooh, you do... this margin. 533 00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:34,571 A scene, like, where the school teacher is murdered 534 00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:36,489 by the brood in front of the kids 535 00:27:36,531 --> 00:27:38,616 is so deeply distressing... 536 00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:41,286 Don't... oh! 537 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:44,581 Aah, ow! 538 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,377 You know, the guardian is, like, killed 539 00:27:49,419 --> 00:27:52,922 in front of the kids by these monsters is, like, terrifying. 540 00:27:52,964 --> 00:27:56,134 One most of the most, like, terrifying scenes in cinema. 541 00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:02,724 And I'm sure that's a scene 542 00:28:02,765 --> 00:28:04,475 where a lot of critics wrote that film off 543 00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:06,019 on the basis of that scene alone. 544 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:07,746 It was like, "No, you've crossed a line here." 545 00:28:10,315 --> 00:28:12,567 Art Hindle discovers what's happening 546 00:28:12,609 --> 00:28:13,669 and he has to confront her. 547 00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,993 When he actually sees what his wife is doing... 548 00:28:23,578 --> 00:28:25,830 And you see her manifesting one of these... 549 00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:27,874 these children and licking it 550 00:28:27,916 --> 00:28:30,835 like a... like a mother cat licks a newborn kitten. 551 00:28:33,254 --> 00:28:34,756 It is sensational. 552 00:28:34,797 --> 00:28:37,133 Oh, God, Nola. 553 00:28:39,052 --> 00:28:41,095 No. 554 00:28:41,137 --> 00:28:43,097 I disgust you. 555 00:28:43,139 --> 00:28:44,408 The film is not especially sympathetic 556 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:46,184 towards the mother, 557 00:28:46,226 --> 00:28:47,411 the female character, Samantha Eggar. 558 00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:49,520 You hate me. 559 00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:52,148 But if you talk to a lot of women 560 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,900 who love that film, you know, 561 00:28:53,942 --> 00:28:55,735 they get very different things out of it. 562 00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:58,071 30 seconds after you're born, you have a past, 563 00:28:58,112 --> 00:28:59,989 and 60 seconds after that, 564 00:29:00,031 --> 00:29:02,158 you start to lie to yourself about it. 565 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,035 The anxiety around having children, 566 00:29:04,077 --> 00:29:07,455 around loving children, loving them too much, 567 00:29:07,497 --> 00:29:09,624 um, wanting to destroy them... 568 00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:12,168 What if there's a sort of mutant quality to the... 569 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:14,212 to the children we bring in to the world? 570 00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,216 The ultimate message of the film 571 00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:21,886 is that broken marriages create broken children. 572 00:29:21,928 --> 00:29:24,389 I love the end of "The Brood" 573 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,641 where it closes in on the little girl, 574 00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:30,353 and you see the rage blisters developing on her arm. 575 00:29:30,395 --> 00:29:32,230 She's Mommy's girl. 576 00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:36,818 Society expects parents 577 00:29:36,859 --> 00:29:39,028 to love their children unconditionally, 578 00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:41,155 no matter how awful they may be, 579 00:29:41,197 --> 00:29:43,324 but everyone has their limits. 580 00:29:50,081 --> 00:29:51,624 Honey? 581 00:29:51,666 --> 00:29:52,917 Frank? 582 00:29:52,959 --> 00:29:54,961 Somebody kicking again? 583 00:29:55,003 --> 00:29:57,255 No, it stopped. 584 00:29:58,172 --> 00:29:59,924 Some men have problems adapting 585 00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:01,926 to the increased responsibilities 586 00:30:01,968 --> 00:30:03,970 and stresses that come with fatherhood. 587 00:30:04,012 --> 00:30:06,222 We're slowly but surely poisoning ourselves, 588 00:30:06,264 --> 00:30:07,765 you know that? 589 00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,407 Fine world to bring a kid into, fellas. 590 00:30:11,311 --> 00:30:12,991 The problem is particularly acute 591 00:30:13,021 --> 00:30:15,606 when your child is a monster baby. 592 00:30:25,783 --> 00:30:27,994 "It's Alive" was made in the mid '70s 593 00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:29,871 by Larry Cohen. 594 00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:35,543 And it's the story of an experimental drug 595 00:30:35,585 --> 00:30:36,794 that has the effect 596 00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:39,505 of turning these babies 597 00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:42,717 into little demonic... 598 00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:44,635 You know the song "Baby Shark?" 599 00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:48,890 Baby sharks. You know, they are babies, 600 00:30:48,931 --> 00:30:51,309 but they have giant fangs, and they're carnivorous. 601 00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:54,937 Rick Baker did this baby which, you know, 602 00:30:54,979 --> 00:30:56,814 is... is fairly inanimate, 603 00:30:56,856 --> 00:31:00,109 and... and so you've gotta be careful how you cut around it 604 00:31:00,151 --> 00:31:01,569 because it's not really very mobile. 605 00:31:01,611 --> 00:31:03,821 It's more of an idea. 606 00:31:03,863 --> 00:31:06,574 And it's a very clever movie. 607 00:31:06,616 --> 00:31:08,993 "It's Alive" was a low-budget movie 608 00:31:09,035 --> 00:31:11,412 that explored big ideas. 609 00:31:11,454 --> 00:31:12,872 It's a human, doctor. 610 00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:14,224 That's what's disgusting to you, isn't it? 611 00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:16,918 It kills like an animal. 612 00:31:16,959 --> 00:31:18,711 And when we find it, 613 00:31:18,753 --> 00:31:21,172 we're gonna have to destroy it like one. 614 00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:23,841 The rampaging baby isn't evil; 615 00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,302 it's a frightened and confused newborn. 616 00:31:26,344 --> 00:31:28,262 The real villains of "It's Alive" 617 00:31:28,304 --> 00:31:30,598 are the mother's untrustworthy doctors 618 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,184 who are being paid off by drug companies 619 00:31:33,226 --> 00:31:35,019 to push their defective products. 620 00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:37,897 We have an opening on the board 621 00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:40,691 of our research and development department. 622 00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:44,070 Now, we wouldn't want people to lose faith in us, would we? 623 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,910 In the '50s and '60s, there was a drug called Thalidomide 624 00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:53,037 that was sold to expectant mothers, 625 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,374 and it created horrific birth defects. 626 00:31:56,416 --> 00:32:00,044 Mrs. Davis, I don't suppose you took the pills I gave you? 627 00:32:00,086 --> 00:32:02,672 You really should, you know. 628 00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:04,900 Maybe it's all the pills I've been taking over the years 629 00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:06,968 that brought this on. 630 00:32:07,009 --> 00:32:10,388 This is a movie that came out of a real horror. 631 00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:13,975 Where are you? Look out, Charley! 632 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,415 "It's Alive" dramatizes the idea of, you know, 633 00:32:19,439 --> 00:32:21,858 a monster kind of born, you know, 634 00:32:21,899 --> 00:32:23,776 and it's because of environmental factors 635 00:32:23,818 --> 00:32:26,404 so it works in that whole eco-horror theme, 636 00:32:26,446 --> 00:32:29,449 but it's also just very much about the idea, you know, 637 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:31,576 that for men, childbirth is something 638 00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:34,495 over which they're going to exercise little control, 639 00:32:34,537 --> 00:32:36,205 and, you know, 640 00:32:36,247 --> 00:32:37,683 what's going to happen, you know, with this birth? 641 00:32:42,044 --> 00:32:44,088 With his monster child on the loose, 642 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:46,215 the father's life falls apart. 643 00:32:46,257 --> 00:32:47,443 Mr. Davis, what did it look like, 644 00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:49,010 if you were to describe it to us? 645 00:32:49,051 --> 00:32:51,095 Leave me alone. I've got nothing to say. 646 00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:52,448 When the story gets out, he loses his job; 647 00:32:52,472 --> 00:32:53,931 he's harassed by the media; 648 00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:56,017 and his family life crumbles. 649 00:32:56,058 --> 00:32:57,351 Get outta my way! 650 00:32:57,393 --> 00:32:58,936 I don't know what it looks like. 651 00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:00,414 - Where is your baby? - Never mind my baby! 652 00:33:00,438 --> 00:33:02,273 Leave my wife out of it, you understand me? 653 00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:04,275 John Ryan in "It's live," 654 00:33:04,317 --> 00:33:06,027 an absolutely amazing performance. 655 00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:08,112 He's really powerful, really compelling. 656 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:10,031 And why is everybody looking at me? 657 00:33:11,407 --> 00:33:13,201 Yeah. 658 00:33:13,242 --> 00:33:15,786 Like it's my own flesh and blood or something. 659 00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:19,999 Well, it's not, understand? 660 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,461 It's no relation to me. 661 00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:25,421 By the film's climax, 662 00:33:25,463 --> 00:33:27,215 the father is helping the police 663 00:33:27,256 --> 00:33:28,966 chase his killer newborn 664 00:33:29,008 --> 00:33:30,968 through the storm drains of LA. 665 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:33,221 There's the innate funny of, like, 666 00:33:33,262 --> 00:33:34,698 guys with shotguns going out to hunt babies. 667 00:33:42,188 --> 00:33:44,190 That moment when he realizes, like, he can't 668 00:33:44,232 --> 00:33:47,109 'cause it's his child is just... that's amazing. 669 00:33:47,151 --> 00:33:48,736 That's an incredible sequence. 670 00:33:48,778 --> 00:33:50,988 Can you hear me, Frank? 671 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:53,282 It can't be saved! It's gotta die! 672 00:33:53,324 --> 00:33:55,576 Do you hear me, Frank? 673 00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:03,167 John Ryan's dealing with those conflicting emotions 674 00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:04,835 of, "My kid's a monster, but he's my kid. 675 00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:06,254 I must protect him," 676 00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:07,171 and that's, you know, a primal urge. 677 00:34:09,423 --> 00:34:11,467 Like many confused patriarchs 678 00:34:11,509 --> 00:34:13,302 who weathered the social storms 679 00:34:13,344 --> 00:34:15,388 of the '60s and '70s, 680 00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:17,189 the father comes to accept his problem child. 681 00:34:18,766 --> 00:34:21,352 It can't hurt anybody! 682 00:34:21,394 --> 00:34:23,372 Hey, look, if you fellas shoot, you're gonna shoot me. 683 00:34:23,396 --> 00:34:25,040 Now, put the weapon down. Look, it's harmless. 684 00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:26,064 Take it easy. Take it easy. 685 00:34:29,193 --> 00:34:31,362 Other films have tried to recapture 686 00:34:31,404 --> 00:34:33,281 the shock of "It's Alive." 687 00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:38,703 Aah! 688 00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:43,791 But no one has even attempted to top 689 00:34:43,833 --> 00:34:45,918 the ultimate evil baby movie: 690 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,962 "Eraserhead." 691 00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:55,344 Of all the movies ever made 692 00:34:55,386 --> 00:34:57,555 about the terrors of parenthood, 693 00:34:57,597 --> 00:35:00,057 nothing to compares to David Lynch's masterpiece, 694 00:35:00,099 --> 00:35:01,267 "Eraserhead." 695 00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:09,400 "Eraserhead" is not what people would think of 696 00:35:09,442 --> 00:35:11,902 as horror in the traditional sense, but, boy, 697 00:35:11,944 --> 00:35:14,155 that's what makes horror such an interesting genre, 698 00:35:14,196 --> 00:35:15,756 'cause you can fit so many things in it. 699 00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,950 Because as an adult, 700 00:35:17,992 --> 00:35:22,079 I can't think of very many movies I found that disturbing 701 00:35:22,121 --> 00:35:23,581 and horrifying and scary. 702 00:35:29,879 --> 00:35:32,798 Lynch is just one of those filmmakers 703 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,759 who... he opens the medium up for you, you know? 704 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,636 Like, you watch a Lynch film and you realize, 705 00:35:36,677 --> 00:35:38,763 "Oh, like, there's so much that can be done." 706 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:43,643 "Eraserhead's" plot defies description, 707 00:35:43,684 --> 00:35:47,146 but it begins as the movie's protagonist, Henry, 708 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:50,107 arrives for dinner with his girlfriend, Mary, 709 00:35:50,149 --> 00:35:51,942 at her parents' house. 710 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,490 It's completely surreal and a completely alien world, 711 00:35:57,531 --> 00:36:00,117 but so sticks to its own rules, 712 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,245 that it just attains a reality all its own. 713 00:36:06,374 --> 00:36:08,959 She'll be all right in a minute. 714 00:36:10,795 --> 00:36:12,522 Every time I see the film, I see something different. 715 00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:14,090 I have a different experience. 716 00:36:14,131 --> 00:36:15,567 Scenes that disturbed me now make me laugh, 717 00:36:15,591 --> 00:36:16,735 things that made me laugh now disturb me, 718 00:36:16,759 --> 00:36:18,427 often simultaneously. 719 00:36:18,469 --> 00:36:22,139 You're very bad trouble if you won't cooperate. 720 00:36:29,772 --> 00:36:31,607 Well, I... 721 00:36:34,026 --> 00:36:35,986 Mary! 722 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,738 Mother! 723 00:36:37,780 --> 00:36:41,325 So much of Lynch is sort of, like, deliberately wrong. 724 00:36:41,367 --> 00:36:44,161 There's a baby. It's at the hospital. 725 00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:46,747 - Mom! - And you're the father. 726 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,875 That's impossible. It's only been... 727 00:36:49,917 --> 00:36:52,169 Mother, they're still not sure it is a baby! 728 00:36:52,211 --> 00:36:54,755 It's premature, but there's a baby! 729 00:36:54,797 --> 00:36:57,299 And it's just wrong in the right way. 730 00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:04,557 The first thing you see onscreen in "Eraserhead" 731 00:37:04,598 --> 00:37:07,852 is, like... is Henry, his head is just floating in space, 732 00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:12,022 and he's emitting all of these umbilical weird creatures 733 00:37:12,064 --> 00:37:13,357 out of his mouth. 734 00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:23,534 And then when you see The Lady in the Radiator, 735 00:37:23,576 --> 00:37:24,636 they're falling from the ceiling, 736 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:25,786 and she's stepping on them. 737 00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:34,712 She's stepping on these creatures that he has... 738 00:37:34,754 --> 00:37:36,881 These, like, weird, ugly creatures 739 00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,049 that he's birthed. 740 00:37:43,763 --> 00:37:45,907 And then she's just singing, "In Heaven Everything is Fine." 741 00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:49,226 ♪ In heaven ♪ 742 00:37:49,268 --> 00:37:52,897 ♪ Everything is fine ♪ 743 00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:55,566 ♪ In heaven ♪ 744 00:37:55,608 --> 00:37:59,236 ♪ Everything is fine ♪ 745 00:37:59,278 --> 00:38:01,322 It's, like, she's just assuring him, 746 00:38:01,363 --> 00:38:03,574 like, "No matter what kind of ugly creature 747 00:38:03,616 --> 00:38:06,535 you give birth to, everything's gonna be okay." 748 00:38:06,577 --> 00:38:11,499 ♪ You got your good things ♪ 749 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:14,835 ♪ And I've got mine ♪ 750 00:38:16,754 --> 00:38:18,547 So many people told me how weird it was, 751 00:38:18,589 --> 00:38:21,759 and I didn't... I go, "Oh, this is a movie about a guy 752 00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:24,386 "you know, afraid of getting married 753 00:38:24,428 --> 00:38:26,972 and having a kid, you know?" 754 00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:34,939 And you watch it, and you go, 755 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:36,583 "I bet this guy was, you kn, married and had a kid 756 00:38:36,607 --> 00:38:38,067 and was freaked out." 757 00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:39,276 Shut up! 758 00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:46,116 Shut up! 759 00:38:46,158 --> 00:38:48,619 And then I, you know, read his book, 760 00:38:48,661 --> 00:38:50,120 and, yeah, he was. 761 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:51,705 You know, it was just, like, 762 00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,624 it was an artistic expression of his fears. 763 00:38:53,666 --> 00:38:56,085 I can't stand it! I'm going home. 764 00:38:56,126 --> 00:38:59,630 Getting this girl pregnant who's a little crazy, 765 00:38:59,672 --> 00:39:02,633 and she doesn't like him, and, you know, 766 00:39:02,675 --> 00:39:04,402 and they have this really acrimonious relationship. 767 00:39:04,426 --> 00:39:05,803 You're on vacation now! 768 00:39:05,845 --> 00:39:08,347 You can take care of it for a night! 769 00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:10,140 And the fear of having a baby, 770 00:39:10,182 --> 00:39:12,309 and what if that baby is deformed? 771 00:39:17,231 --> 00:39:20,860 "Eraserhead," I think, more than any evil child film 772 00:39:20,901 --> 00:39:26,824 perfectly encapsulates the anxiety of a parent. 773 00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:34,623 That what you will give birth to 774 00:39:34,665 --> 00:39:37,376 is this uncontrollable monster. 775 00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:47,887 I always remember when the baby's crying, 776 00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:50,097 and it's in the night 777 00:39:50,139 --> 00:39:52,683 and then he turns on the light 778 00:39:52,725 --> 00:39:54,894 and... and the baby has all the sores over his face. 779 00:39:56,812 --> 00:40:00,274 - Jack Nance goes... - "Oh, you are sick." 780 00:40:00,316 --> 00:40:03,027 I was like, "Jesus Christ." 781 00:40:07,948 --> 00:40:10,409 Of course the ending where he kills the baby. 782 00:40:19,627 --> 00:40:21,170 I mean, every time I see that film, 783 00:40:21,211 --> 00:40:22,713 I'm shocked at that ending 784 00:40:22,755 --> 00:40:24,340 because it seems to rush at you. 785 00:40:29,637 --> 00:40:31,388 And just knock the wind out of you. 786 00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:37,895 I guess he transcends, right? 787 00:40:37,937 --> 00:40:41,440 And then he's embraced by The Lady in the Radiator. 788 00:40:44,568 --> 00:40:46,987 You don't know exactly what it meant literally 789 00:40:47,029 --> 00:40:50,616 to know what it meant figuratively, subtextually. 790 00:40:53,535 --> 00:40:56,497 It's a pretty unique movie 791 00:40:56,538 --> 00:40:58,791 that stands alone, you know, in that way. 792 00:41:01,043 --> 00:41:04,046 It's really unnerving, but it means something. 793 00:41:04,088 --> 00:41:08,050 It's not just kind of surface and there for effect. 794 00:41:08,092 --> 00:41:11,095 It's just very honest and heartbreaking. 795 00:41:14,723 --> 00:41:16,976 The chilling children and terrible tykes 796 00:41:17,017 --> 00:41:18,602 of the movies can be frightening, 797 00:41:18,644 --> 00:41:20,104 especially if you're a parent. 798 00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:24,274 But they can also be oddly comforting. 799 00:41:26,819 --> 00:41:28,737 Showing us that no matter how 800 00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:30,572 difficult your son or daughter may be, 801 00:41:30,614 --> 00:41:32,241 things could be much worse. 802 00:41:34,284 --> 00:41:36,620 So if you're thinking of having a baby, 803 00:41:36,662 --> 00:41:38,831 but having second thoughts, don't worry. 804 00:41:38,872 --> 00:41:42,459 Your kids will probably turn out just fine. 60439

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