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Tonight on
The Curse of Oak Island...
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Are you ready to put some coil
to the soil, mate?
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- I’m ready.
- Let’s go for it.
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Oh, what have we got here?
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- Oh, yeah.
- Ooh! Look at that, mate.
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- Is that something?
- Wow.
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That is spectacular.
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- Why does it have these angles?
- Does it cry "ship"?
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It could easily
be part of a ship.
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Well, how about that?
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- Hey, Craig!
- I think they might have it.
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- There it is.
- Oh!
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What the...? Check that out!
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That’s a phenomenon right there.
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There is an
island in the North Atlantic
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where people have
been looking for
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an incredible treasure
for more than 200 years.
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So far, they have
found a stone slab
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with strange symbols
carved into it...
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man-made workings that
date to medieval times,
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and a lead cross whose
origin may be connected
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to the Knights Templar.
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To date, six men have died
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trying to solve the mystery.
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And according to legend,
one more will have to die
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before the treasure
can be found.
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A-13 is underway.
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Hoping to connect into the
same structure that gave us
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- all that compressed air.
- Yep.
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An especially hopeful day
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has begun on Oak Island
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for brothers Rick
and Marty Lagina,
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their partner Craig Tester
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and members of
their team as they
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begin drilling a
borehole known as A-13.
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Game on, Charles.
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- Game on.
- A chamber
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- could lay beneath.
- It is their belief
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that they may be
within striking distance
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of something that
has eluded searchers
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for 227 years:
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the legendary Money
Pit treasure vault.
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That was good.
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We are very close
to where we started
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to get all that air eruption
from what we thought was
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a subterranean chamber.
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- I-I think it’s got to be a chamber or something.
- Sure.
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Something man-made.
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It’s quite possible.
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But the only way we’re gonna
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find out, we drill
down and get to it.
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Yeah.
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So, what we’ve got
here on the screen...
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These, I’m almost very certain
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that they are some
sort of a tunnel.
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Interesting.
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One week ago,
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geophysicist Jeremy Church
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presented the team
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with seismic data...
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So, if we go right in...
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That revealed a
possible underground tunnel
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extending through the area
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that the team has
dubbed the C-1 cluster.
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It has to be from some sort
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of human activity.
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It has been in this same area
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that they recently detected
evidence of both silver and gold
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in numerous boreholes.
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The other thing is
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this low-density cave-type
feature right here.
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I call it "the structure."
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However, Jeremy also noted
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a second compelling discovery.
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What size is that structure?
Just approximately.
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12 feet by 12 feet tops.
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Oh! Oh!
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- Oh!
- Holy cow.
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We’ve never seen that before.
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- That’s unusual.
- Blowing water up.
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When the team
drilled a borehole known as AB-13
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in the hopes of
locating the structure...
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- Oh, boy. -NARRATOR:
at a depth of some 60 feet,
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massive amounts of air
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suddenly began
shooting up to the surface.
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Okay, guys.
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- Explain the air to me.
- Okay, so,
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one thing’s for
sure: there’s a cavity.
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The mysterious burst of air
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offered evidence of
something Marty Lagina
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has long suspected.
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And this same
phenomenon would occur
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- for the famous offset chamber, wouldn’t it?
- Exactly.
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- A
- so-called offset chamber
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constructed away from
the original Money Pit
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where the elusive treasure
vault has been safely hidden
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for more than two centuries.
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We got a core coming.
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Now as the
team drills Borehole A-13
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just two and a half
feet to the north...
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48.
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- 48.
- Thank you.
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If they can
penetrate the mysterious void
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or chamber once again
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and recover evidence
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of anything
valuable inside of it,
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they will dig a massive
ten-foot-wide steel-cased shaft
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in an effort to finally solve
the Oak Island mystery.
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The presence of air
trapped underground
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at relatively shallow depths
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indicates some
sort of cavity, cavern.
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Something that can trap air.
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So, that’s kind of
what we’re looking for.
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We’re getting loose already.
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I wonder if it’s gonna
be loose enough
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for us to run into a
chamber or a cavern.
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What it merits is
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some delineation,
some more drilling
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around this air pocket
to see what the heck it is.
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Mother Nature’s finest.
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That’s how loose
I want to see it.
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Is that just indication
we’re close to a chamber?
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Well, if there’s an opening,
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that opening is
partially full of air,
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partially full of water.
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And that looseness
that’s created
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is gonna soften everything up
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and make everything
all the more saturated
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- and could lead to a chamber or a cavern.
- Okay.
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Next two or
three cores will tell the tale.
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All right. Continue on.
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While the drilling
operation continues at the Money Pit...
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There’s the first
spicy meatball coming up.
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Near the southern
edge of the triangle-shaped swamp...
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- We should pull up some interesting stuff.
- Yeah.
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We’ll, uh, we’ll get in there
with you and keep an eye out.
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Metal
detection expert Gary Drayton
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along with Rick and Marty’s
nephews Peter and David Fornetti
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search alongside heavy
equipment operator Billy Gerhardt
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for important clues that may
lie buried in the muck and mud.
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This is, like, the...
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the main triangle of
activity in the swamp.
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I’m hoping that Billy and
this long-range excavator
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is the difference
this year in this area.
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- Mm-hmm.
- And that’s what we’re doing.
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Getting boggy with it.
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Over the past several years,
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while searching this
area, which is just west
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of the potentially ancient
stone ship’s wharf,
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the team has discovered
compelling evidence
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that the swamp was
not only man-made
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but ingeniously designed
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to hide something
of great importance
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and possible value.
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These include pieces
of wooden cargo barrels,
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fragments of a ship
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and even seismic data
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that identified a
200-foot-long object
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resembling the size and shape
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of an ancient treasure galleon.
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Every time we do dig,
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we find things.
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We found the stone road.
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We found the stone path.
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We’re now digging in the
edge of the swamp road,
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and we’re finding artifacts.
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We can start putting the
puzzle pieces together,
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and hopefully, we’ll
finally, once and for all,
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understand what
happened in the swamp.
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What’ve you got, Pete?
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- Is that something?
- Oh, yeah.
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Wow, that is spectacular.
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Definitely an
unusual-shaped piece.
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No idea what it is.
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Perhaps part of a tabletop.
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And look, you can see where
this has been beveled a little bit.
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This was... Had a specific use.
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You’d assume that something
like this would have been
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maybe inside a ship.
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- Yeah.
- Not part of an outside.
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But very, very cool piece.
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I love the shape.
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There’s a trapezoid
piece of wood from the swamp
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that’s absolutely, positively,
clearly shaped by human hands.
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There’s no doubt.
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Who knows what it was,
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but it might have been
from a bigger ship.
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We need to test this thing.
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I’m convinced
something happened here.
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Something pretty big.
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So, this is just another
piece that corroborates that.
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Piece just came out of
the bucket there that’s cut.
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Oh, yeah, I see it.
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Good eye, Billy.
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Yeah, it’s tough to
tell whether it’s a piece
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of planking. I...
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If it was a barrel stave,
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it would be more curved but...
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Could have been
like an oar or a paddle.
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Part of an
oar? Could it be connected
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to ancient ship-related activity
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and offer more evidence
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that the swamp was
once an open harbor?
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- Another one for the collection, for sure.
- Yeah.
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Good eye, Billy.
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We’ll put it with the rest
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- of the interesting wood.
- Sounds good.
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Here we
go. Next bucket up.
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As the investigation
continues at the swamp...
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How we doing?
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Not bad.
How you doing, Scott?
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Back in the
Money Pit area, Craig Tester
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and members of the team
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are approaching
their target depth
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of approximately 60
feet in Borehole A-13,
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where they hope to encounter
a mysterious cavity or chamber.
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Starting to look maroon-ish.
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- Yeah.
- Anyway,
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it’s pretty... It’s
maroon till, but...
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where’s our indication
of an open cavern?
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Hey, Craig!
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Might have it.
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Hey,
Craig! There it is.
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- It’s coming?
- I could see air coming out.
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While drilling Borehole A-13
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in the Money Pit area,
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the team has just encountered
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a burst of air at the surface,
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offering evidence that they
have once again penetrated
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a mysterious cavern or chamber
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some 60 feet below ground.
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It’s almost like
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there’s a bladder
effect there or something
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where you’re
pushing the water in
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and it’s compressing the air.
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When you break the rod,
it pushes it back out again.
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- It shouldn’t do that.
- Yeah.
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Well, you can’t compress air,
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so maybe we got our
cavern, which is our bladder.
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Yep.
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We certainly have an interest
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in the air bubble
phenomenon around Shaft 12
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indicating the possibility
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of an offset
chamber in that area.
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But there was definitely air
coming out when I was threading
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- on that last joint.
- Okay.
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If it is and we confirm that,
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that may be the beginning
point of all the features
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that we see around
the C-1 cluster.
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That’s a phenomenon right there.
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It’s got to be a void.
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I would keep going.
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I mean, ’cause what’s
in the core barrel
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is probably more
important to us.
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Just drive ahead till
you hit something hard.
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Okay.
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Is it possible
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that the team has drilled
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into an offset chamber connected
to the original Money Pit?
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And if so, could they have
finally pinpointed the source
261
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of the silver and gold they
detected earlier this year
262
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in the so-called C-1 cluster?
263
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- 78, two.
- Oh, really?
264
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- It’s going in?
- Yeah.
265
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- Going... Oh, going in there? Okay.
- Yeah.
266
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Empirical data like
this is what’s gonna drive us
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to the Bravo Tango call
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where we succeed,
where we are completely
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and utterly successful
in understanding
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who, what, when, where,
why about the Money Pit.
271
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Here it comes.
272
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82.
273
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Bottom is at 82.
274
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Well, we got some fairly
dense material at the bottom.
275
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- I see that.
- But a lot of slush and murk
276
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up here in our recovery.
277
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I don’t think that
anything can open this up
278
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in a natural sense.
This has to be people
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with a will to dig
and open up a space.
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Oh!
281
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There we go.
282
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Ladies and gentlemen,
283
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what the heck?
284
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Here’s another one right here.
285
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It almost looks like grass.
286
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Maybe eelgrass or
something washing in.
287
00:12:30,298 --> 00:12:31,363
Eelgrass?
288
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Found in the mysterious void
some 60 feet underground?
289
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Back in 1850,
290
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when members of
the Truro Company
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discovered the five stone
box drains at Smith’s Cove
292
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which converged into
a single flood tunnel
293
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leading toward the Money Pit,
294
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they found the drains covered
by layers of coconut fiber
295
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and eelgrass.
296
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These durable, organic materials
297
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worked as a natural
filtration system
298
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to keep sand and
debris out of the drains.
299
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Is it possible
300
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that the mysterious void
the team encountered
301
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was not the long-sought
treasure chamber
302
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but instead a flood tunnel
ingeniously designed
303
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to protect it?
304
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There is no aquifer at 55 feet.
305
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We hit some sort
of loose material
306
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that carried air,
and it wasn’t cribbed.
307
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That sort of sounds
like a flood tunnel to me.
308
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Baffling, that’s for sure.
309
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Baffling all the way
around, no question.
310
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Although
the team is disappointed
311
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with the results
of Borehole A-13,
312
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the fact that they
have already detected
313
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treasure in this area
314
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and may have just
encountered a flood tunnel
315
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gives them hope that
they could still be close
316
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to the ultimate breakthrough.
317
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You know, we’re not
done exploring the area,
318
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but I think, you know,
we need to keep digging.
319
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- See what else is there.
- Sounds good to me.
320
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Let’s get going.
321
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The following morning...
322
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Yeah, baby.
323
00:14:03,595 --> 00:14:05,759
While the drilling operation
324
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in the Money Pit continues...
325
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- I think today’s gonna be good, mate.
- No doubt.
326
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At the southern edge
327
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of the triangle-shaped swamp,
328
00:14:15,628 --> 00:14:17,627
heavy equipment
operator Billy Gerhardt,
329
00:14:17,628 --> 00:14:19,759
metal detection
expert Gary Drayton
330
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and treasure hunter Michael John
331
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continue their
search for more clues
332
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and hopefully valuables.
333
00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:27,363
All right, Billy.
334
00:14:27,364 --> 00:14:29,495
We’ll get stuck in,
mate. We’ll keep our eyes
335
00:14:29,496 --> 00:14:31,363
and the metal
detector to the ground
336
00:14:31,364 --> 00:14:33,099
- and see what we pull up.
- Yep.
337
00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:35,463
- All right, mate.
- Good luck.
338
00:14:40,496 --> 00:14:42,231
Here. What we got here?
339
00:14:42,232 --> 00:14:43,429
What’s that?
340
00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:46,825
- Ooh, yeah. Look at that.
- Wow.
341
00:14:46,826 --> 00:14:49,495
- That is definitely shaped.
- Yeah. No doubt.
342
00:14:49,496 --> 00:14:52,858
And I don’t think
it’s a barrel stave.
343
00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:53,826
The heck is it?
344
00:14:53,827 --> 00:14:57,099
To me, it looks like
probably a-a piece of oar
345
00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:58,363
- or a paddle or something.
- Yeah.
346
00:14:58,364 --> 00:15:01,759
Another piece of a possible oar?
347
00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,760
Could this artifact
348
00:15:02,761 --> 00:15:07,099
and the similar object found
one day ago be connected
349
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to the ship-related discoveries
350
00:15:08,628 --> 00:15:12,231
- the team has recovered in the swamp?
- We recover
351
00:15:12,232 --> 00:15:15,759
a wide variety of pieces
of wood out of the swamp.
352
00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,099
Are we getting closer to
finding that ship in the swamp?
353
00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:21,760
One thing for sure,
354
00:15:21,761 --> 00:15:23,330
it’s definitely been
shaped by man.
355
00:15:23,331 --> 00:15:25,858
- Does it taper? - GARY: Yeah, it tapers.
- Yeah.
356
00:15:25,859 --> 00:15:27,363
All right, mate. We’ll
put this to one side
357
00:15:27,364 --> 00:15:30,628
- and let you keep scooping, mate.
- Yep.
358
00:15:32,199 --> 00:15:33,495
We have found a number
359
00:15:33,496 --> 00:15:35,495
of what we believe
to be nautical items.
360
00:15:35,496 --> 00:15:39,627
We could possibly
infer that there might be
361
00:15:39,628 --> 00:15:42,231
or might have been at one
point a ship in the swamp.
362
00:15:42,232 --> 00:15:45,628
It’s hard to think that
it’s mere coincidence.
363
00:15:51,364 --> 00:15:56,231
That’s a little bit of
dimensional lumber here.
364
00:15:56,232 --> 00:15:57,166
Yeah.
365
00:15:57,167 --> 00:15:59,165
Yeah, you
see those little scrapes
366
00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:02,495
that are taken out? There’s
a little concave area?
367
00:16:02,496 --> 00:16:04,693
That means it was
cut with an adze.
368
00:16:04,694 --> 00:16:08,627
Uh, to me, it looks
like it’s a piece
369
00:16:08,628 --> 00:16:11,231
- of, like, decking even.
- Yeah.
370
00:16:11,232 --> 00:16:14,495
Another
possible piece of ship decking?
371
00:16:14,496 --> 00:16:18,231
And potentially
shaped by an adze?
372
00:16:18,232 --> 00:16:19,759
Oh, look at that.
373
00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,627
- Four weeks ago...
- Is it an old adze?
374
00:16:23,628 --> 00:16:25,759
- Could be.
- While searching Lot 4
375
00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,759
on the western
side of the island,
376
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,099
Gary and Rick Lagina
377
00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,825
discovered one of these
ancient cutting tools.
378
00:16:31,826 --> 00:16:34,363
One that Carmen Legge dated
379
00:16:34,364 --> 00:16:37,627
to between 1620 and 1740.
380
00:16:37,628 --> 00:16:40,627
This looks like it was adze-cut.
381
00:16:40,628 --> 00:16:41,759
Could that ancient tool
382
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,627
have been used to
shape this wooden object?
383
00:16:45,628 --> 00:16:48,627
So, we’ve got the piece of
wood which was adze-cut,
384
00:16:48,628 --> 00:16:51,693
- and we’ve also found the adze.
- We have... Yeah.
385
00:16:51,694 --> 00:16:53,627
It’s brilliant. You
know what, mate?
386
00:16:53,628 --> 00:16:56,363
We got so many
fascinating pieces of wood
387
00:16:56,364 --> 00:16:59,231
- out of this area. I’m gonna text Rick.
- Mm. Okay.
388
00:16:59,232 --> 00:17:02,826
- Get Rick over here, check all this out.
- Check it out. Yeah.
389
00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,231
I mean, this is
getting interesting now,
390
00:17:05,232 --> 00:17:11,297
- isn’t it?
- Yeah.
391
00:17:11,298 --> 00:17:13,297
- Hey, guys. - Hey, Rick. How you doing, mate?
- How’re you doing, Rick?
392
00:17:13,298 --> 00:17:15,726
At the
southern edge of the swamp,
393
00:17:15,727 --> 00:17:18,198
Rick Lagina arrives
after being alerted
394
00:17:18,199 --> 00:17:22,165
to several new and
potentially important discoveries
395
00:17:22,166 --> 00:17:23,462
and joins Gary Drayton,
396
00:17:23,463 --> 00:17:28,627
Michael John and Billy
Gerhardt to search for more.
397
00:17:28,628 --> 00:17:29,759
Because you’re not dancing,
398
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,462
I’m assuming you haven’t
found you-know-what.
399
00:17:32,463 --> 00:17:36,099
No, mate. Unfortunately, I
haven’t got a wood dance yet.
400
00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:37,198
If I did,
401
00:17:37,199 --> 00:17:38,429
it would be over some of these.
402
00:17:38,430 --> 00:17:40,495
If you had a wood
dance, you’d be exhausted
403
00:17:40,496 --> 00:17:43,594
- by now, Gary. Come on.
- Yeah. I’ll show you want we found.
404
00:17:43,595 --> 00:17:48,297
We found some really, really
interesting pieces of wood.
405
00:17:48,298 --> 00:17:50,627
Check some of these out, mate.
406
00:17:50,628 --> 00:17:55,232
This, to me, was one
of the-the cooler ones.
407
00:17:55,298 --> 00:17:59,825
Almost looks like a piece
of decking or planking.
408
00:17:59,826 --> 00:18:01,363
And look, you see that?
409
00:18:01,364 --> 00:18:03,495
- Yeah.
- Almost like it had been hit
410
00:18:03,496 --> 00:18:05,165
- by an adze.
- Yeah. Yeah.
411
00:18:05,166 --> 00:18:07,462
- Yeah.
- And remember, mate, we found the adze
412
00:18:07,463 --> 00:18:08,726
- on Lot 4.
- Yep.
413
00:18:08,727 --> 00:18:10,363
This... I
mean, it’s heavy.
414
00:18:10,364 --> 00:18:11,462
If you feel the heft of that,
415
00:18:11,463 --> 00:18:15,363
- it’s a hard wood by the feel of it.
- Mm-hmm.
416
00:18:15,364 --> 00:18:16,693
And then there’s this one.
417
00:18:16,694 --> 00:18:19,165
That’s a little mystery object.
418
00:18:19,166 --> 00:18:21,330
- Hey, Bill.
- Hey.
419
00:18:21,331 --> 00:18:23,099
Look at all these.
420
00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:27,099
It kind of looks like a
barrel stave to me with that.
421
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,858
Well, we thought barrel stave,
422
00:18:28,859 --> 00:18:32,594
but even if it was a
top, it goes in so thin.
423
00:18:32,595 --> 00:18:33,726
It’s tapered like an oar.
424
00:18:33,727 --> 00:18:35,726
You know an oar
is tapered like that?
425
00:18:35,727 --> 00:18:37,231
Like a broken paddle.
426
00:18:37,232 --> 00:18:38,594
Oh, a paddle.
427
00:18:38,595 --> 00:18:40,297
Yeah, that could be.
428
00:18:40,298 --> 00:18:43,825
Our only methodology
here is C-14 testing,
429
00:18:43,826 --> 00:18:45,693
so I would suggest this one.
430
00:18:45,694 --> 00:18:48,231
This one because
this is functional.
431
00:18:48,232 --> 00:18:51,297
This was designed
to-to serve a purpose.
432
00:18:51,298 --> 00:18:53,099
- Yeah.
- And this one,
433
00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:55,363
this one because of
noticing the adze marks.
434
00:18:55,364 --> 00:18:57,858
Yeah. We have
435
00:18:57,859 --> 00:19:01,627
such a quantity of wood
finds from the swamp.
436
00:19:01,628 --> 00:19:04,231
As we look at the items
that have been found,
437
00:19:04,232 --> 00:19:07,462
any piece of wood that
is obviously shaped,
438
00:19:07,463 --> 00:19:12,429
whether there be dowels
or holes or saw marks,
439
00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:16,099
it demands for us to
find a consulting expert
440
00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:17,363
who can come in and tell us,
441
00:19:17,364 --> 00:19:20,231
"This is important
for this reason."
442
00:19:20,232 --> 00:19:21,627
The hope is that we
443
00:19:21,628 --> 00:19:24,429
maybe not find the
reason why it was used
444
00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:28,198
but really what is it
445
00:19:28,199 --> 00:19:30,330
and why is it there?
446
00:19:30,331 --> 00:19:31,363
I’m hoping,
447
00:19:31,364 --> 00:19:33,198
Rick, that you guys can get
448
00:19:33,199 --> 00:19:35,297
a shipbuilding expert.
449
00:19:35,298 --> 00:19:38,165
Well, we do have a marine
archaeologist coming.
450
00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:39,100
Dr. Spence.
451
00:19:39,101 --> 00:19:41,231
World-renowned, world-class.
452
00:19:41,232 --> 00:19:44,198
So, we’re gonna do
exactly what you suggest:
453
00:19:44,199 --> 00:19:46,297
round up all the
things that even have
454
00:19:46,298 --> 00:19:48,726
a bit of suspicion that
they’re maritime-related,
455
00:19:48,727 --> 00:19:51,693
present them to him and
see what he has to say.
456
00:19:51,694 --> 00:19:52,496
Excellent.
457
00:19:52,497 --> 00:19:55,726
And this is the type of
stuff that hopefully will
458
00:19:55,727 --> 00:19:59,429
lead us to some of those
round things that I like.
459
00:19:59,430 --> 00:20:01,363
They’ve got to be here.
460
00:20:01,364 --> 00:20:02,199
Yeah.
461
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,099
Keep it all, wash
it, catalog it.
462
00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:08,858
- And then the only thing to do is keep going.
- Yeah. Okay.
463
00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:12,628
Okay. Let’s do it.
464
00:20:18,199 --> 00:20:21,297
- The following morning...
- Did I tell you
465
00:20:21,298 --> 00:20:23,759
that when we get close to
50, we got to give Craig a call?
466
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,627
- No, no, I heard that. Yeah.
- Just to be...
467
00:20:25,628 --> 00:20:27,462
While the drilling operation
468
00:20:27,463 --> 00:20:29,231
continues at the Money Pit...
469
00:20:29,232 --> 00:20:32,165
So, gentlemen, we
welcome Dr. Lee Spence.
470
00:20:32,166 --> 00:20:37,231
Very esteemed in marine archaeological
work. - In the war room,
471
00:20:37,232 --> 00:20:40,693
Rick, Marty, Craig and
other members of the team
472
00:20:40,694 --> 00:20:43,858
are meeting with
underwater archaeologist
473
00:20:43,859 --> 00:20:45,858
and author Dr. Lee Spence.
474
00:20:45,859 --> 00:20:48,099
The reason
for Dr. Spence’s visit
475
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:50,726
to the... to the war room,
of course, is these are
476
00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:54,165
items that have been
found, uh, this year.
477
00:20:54,166 --> 00:20:56,726
Now, they’re not
necessarily nautical,
478
00:20:56,727 --> 00:20:59,231
but we thought you
might like to take a look.
479
00:20:59,232 --> 00:21:00,726
But before you get into that,
480
00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:02,495
if you could just
tell Marty and Craig
481
00:21:02,496 --> 00:21:03,594
a little bit about
your background?
482
00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:06,495
Well, it’s something...
something I’ve done all my life.
483
00:21:06,496 --> 00:21:11,099
- I started finding shipwrecks when I was 12.
- Wow.
484
00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,099
I became one of
the early pioneers
485
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,627
of modern underwater
archaeology.
486
00:21:15,628 --> 00:21:17,726
And I say "modern
underwater archaeology"
487
00:21:17,727 --> 00:21:19,561
’cause the first
underwater archaeology
488
00:21:19,562 --> 00:21:22,561
that I’m aware of was
actually in the 1700s.
489
00:21:22,562 --> 00:21:26,594
You describe yourself
as a marine archaeologist
490
00:21:26,595 --> 00:21:29,363
more so than a treasure hunter.
491
00:21:29,364 --> 00:21:32,594
Well, that’s ’cause the
objective is the history.
492
00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:34,561
I absolutely love history.
493
00:21:34,562 --> 00:21:36,429
It’s very real to me.
494
00:21:36,430 --> 00:21:38,496
I think it’s very important.
495
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,330
With a career that
has so far spanned six decades,
496
00:21:43,331 --> 00:21:47,627
Dr. Spence has discovered
more than 100 shipwrecks,
497
00:21:47,628 --> 00:21:51,858
including two American
Civil War vessels,
498
00:21:51,859 --> 00:21:54,594
the SS Georgiana
499
00:21:54,595 --> 00:21:55,825
and the HL Hunley,
500
00:21:55,826 --> 00:21:59,858
a Confederate submarine
that was considered by experts
501
00:21:59,859 --> 00:22:03,594
to be one of the key
underwater archaeological finds
502
00:22:03,595 --> 00:22:05,429
of the 20th century.
503
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:08,099
His exploration
of sunken galleons
504
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:12,231
that dated to between
the 16th and 19th centuries
505
00:22:12,232 --> 00:22:14,627
has produced more
than $50 million
506
00:22:14,628 --> 00:22:18,099
in recovered
artifacts and treasure.
507
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:19,594
The reason why
Dr. Spence was invited here
508
00:22:19,595 --> 00:22:23,462
was simply because he
has a lifetime of experience
509
00:22:23,463 --> 00:22:24,232
diving on wrecks.
510
00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:26,858
We’ve never had
that type of experience
511
00:22:26,859 --> 00:22:28,627
to underwater archaeology
512
00:22:28,628 --> 00:22:32,628
that Dr. Spence
brings to the table.
513
00:22:32,859 --> 00:22:34,693
We have assembled here
514
00:22:34,694 --> 00:22:36,726
what we think are the more
ship-like, I’m gonna say,
515
00:22:36,727 --> 00:22:40,330
or more nautical things...
Least to our untrained eye...
516
00:22:40,331 --> 00:22:41,759
- that we pulled out of the swamp.
- Okay.
517
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,594
And we’d really
like your opinion.
518
00:22:43,595 --> 00:22:45,627
And you could start
wherever you like.
519
00:22:45,628 --> 00:22:48,760
Let me start with
this one right here.
520
00:22:49,595 --> 00:22:51,594
You’ve got three holes here
521
00:22:51,595 --> 00:22:55,330
that probably once had
nails going through them.
522
00:22:55,331 --> 00:22:57,759
And I can think of...
523
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,099
Maybe at one point, there
was a board right here.
524
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:05,198
You have this curved edge
here like you would on a paddle,
525
00:23:05,199 --> 00:23:08,198
and it’s-it’s starting to
make the curve back up.
526
00:23:08,199 --> 00:23:11,330
So, it wouldn’t have had to
have been much wider than this.
527
00:23:11,331 --> 00:23:14,429
And they nailed this in,
attached a handle to it.
528
00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:17,297
- That’s likely a paddle, then.
- To make
529
00:23:17,298 --> 00:23:18,363
a paddle.
530
00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:19,364
Lee, take a look
531
00:23:19,365 --> 00:23:22,363
at this one. This was,
uh, clearly a worked piece.
532
00:23:22,364 --> 00:23:24,462
We did radio
carbon-date this one,
533
00:23:24,463 --> 00:23:26,165
and the results are right there.
534
00:23:26,166 --> 00:23:30,363
So, this came off
the swamp, found by Billy.
535
00:23:30,364 --> 00:23:33,232
This is man-made.
536
00:23:33,859 --> 00:23:37,627
And they came up with some
real interesting possibilities
537
00:23:37,628 --> 00:23:40,825
as far as the dates go.
538
00:23:40,826 --> 00:23:42,099
I find this amazing.
539
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:46,759
It dates between 1520 and 1674.
540
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,759
I’m impressed with it.
541
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,100
But does it cry "ship"?
542
00:23:51,199 --> 00:23:54,297
It could easily
be part of a ship.
543
00:23:54,298 --> 00:23:56,364
Very easily.
544
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:07,099
- Does it cry "ship"?
- It could easily be part of a ship.
545
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:07,760
Very easily.
546
00:24:07,761 --> 00:24:09,627
In the war room,
547
00:24:09,628 --> 00:24:13,495
world-renowned underwater
archaeologist Dr. Lee Spence
548
00:24:13,496 --> 00:24:15,231
has just corroborated
549
00:24:15,232 --> 00:24:18,198
that a piece of wood
planking recently found
550
00:24:18,199 --> 00:24:20,231
by the Oak Island
team in the swamp
551
00:24:20,232 --> 00:24:22,759
and which was carbon-dated
to the 16th century
552
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,727
could be part of a
large sailing vessel.
553
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,099
Such an early piece
that you’re finding,
554
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,363
I think this was worked.
555
00:24:32,364 --> 00:24:33,495
I’m sure you didn’t find
556
00:24:33,496 --> 00:24:36,627
the oldest piece of
worked wood on the island.
557
00:24:36,628 --> 00:24:39,462
And yet look how
old this probably is.
558
00:24:39,463 --> 00:24:41,759
Right. -Interesting.
559
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,495
- I’m impressed with it.
- So, it... Really,
560
00:24:44,496 --> 00:24:45,759
to me, the most interesting item
561
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,760
- is right here.
- Yeah.
562
00:24:46,761 --> 00:24:49,495
I think that could be,
like, a belaying pin.
563
00:24:49,496 --> 00:24:50,594
If that’s what it was,
564
00:24:50,595 --> 00:24:52,627
it would be for a
very small sailboat
565
00:24:52,628 --> 00:24:55,462
’cause you wouldn’t
have big line on it,
566
00:24:55,463 --> 00:24:58,759
and you would lace it
around to hold it in place.
567
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,759
Or it reminds me of a fid.
568
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,495
It can be spelled
P-H-I-D or F-I-D.
569
00:25:05,496 --> 00:25:07,627
- Mm-hmm.
- One with this diameter
570
00:25:07,628 --> 00:25:09,231
would be used for working
571
00:25:09,232 --> 00:25:10,759
a real heavy rope.
572
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,429
You know, like anchor cable.
573
00:25:12,430 --> 00:25:13,627
- Oh.
- Either way,
574
00:25:13,628 --> 00:25:15,363
- it looks nautical to me.
- Okay.
575
00:25:15,364 --> 00:25:16,627
That’s what I was trying to ask.
576
00:25:16,628 --> 00:25:19,231
What does it do to a rope?
577
00:25:19,232 --> 00:25:22,363
For a fid, you’re using
it to pry the line apart.
578
00:25:22,364 --> 00:25:24,759
- You know how you have the rope twisted?
- Mm-hmm.
579
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,330
And it’s real tight,
580
00:25:26,331 --> 00:25:28,759
and you take it, and
you stick it between,
581
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,198
and you separate the line
582
00:25:30,199 --> 00:25:32,462
so you can stick
another piece in
583
00:25:32,463 --> 00:25:34,495
- to splice it.
- I see.
584
00:25:34,496 --> 00:25:35,594
If this was a fid...
585
00:25:35,595 --> 00:25:39,495
And it... and it is rather large
at the end... it would’ve been
586
00:25:39,496 --> 00:25:41,330
- a large line.
- Yes, it would be.
587
00:25:41,331 --> 00:25:43,759
Yes, and I think
it’s more likely a fid
588
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,858
- than it is a belaying pin.
- Mm-hmm.
589
00:25:46,859 --> 00:25:49,825
Okay. Well, that’s interesting.
590
00:25:50,502 --> 00:25:53,534
When-when did it come into use?
591
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,931
About as long as
they’ve had rope.
592
00:25:55,932 --> 00:25:57,459
So,
593
00:25:57,460 --> 00:25:59,558
- thousands of years.
- Wow.
594
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:02,195
A possible
fid? A tool designed
595
00:26:02,196 --> 00:26:05,931
for maneuvering large
ropes on sailing vessels?
596
00:26:05,932 --> 00:26:08,063
Could this artifact be connected
597
00:26:08,064 --> 00:26:09,799
to the other
potential ship pieces
598
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,459
and the massive stone wharf
that were found in the swamp
599
00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:16,195
and also help explain
600
00:26:16,196 --> 00:26:19,327
the 200-foot-long
galleon-shaped anomaly
601
00:26:19,328 --> 00:26:21,459
detected by seismic scanning
602
00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:24,459
back in 2018?
603
00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:26,459
This would’ve been
used on a big rope,
604
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:29,063
which implies big ship
visiting at some point.
605
00:26:29,064 --> 00:26:32,799
- And to me, that’s the most likely.
- Mm-hmm.
606
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,063
The so-called fid...
607
00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:37,195
I thought that was
very interesting
608
00:26:37,196 --> 00:26:39,327
because that
instrument has been used
609
00:26:39,328 --> 00:26:41,063
for a very, very long time.
610
00:26:41,064 --> 00:26:44,459
What is a piece of
a sailing ship doing
611
00:26:44,460 --> 00:26:47,195
in the swamp? I don’t know.
612
00:26:47,196 --> 00:26:51,799
I do know it’s worth continuing
investigating this area.
613
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,932
- Now, let’s see this.
- This one?
614
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,063
This was in the swamp
615
00:26:59,064 --> 00:27:01,459
near swamp road,
616
00:27:01,460 --> 00:27:04,328
and it was around ten feet deep.
617
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,931
When I look at this,
618
00:27:05,932 --> 00:27:08,931
something that immediately
jumps to my mind...
619
00:27:08,932 --> 00:27:12,559
Why is... Why does
it have these angles?
620
00:27:13,328 --> 00:27:15,063
This piece is broken off here.
621
00:27:15,064 --> 00:27:16,931
This is not a nice cut.
622
00:27:16,932 --> 00:27:18,459
This is where it broke,
623
00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:21,799
and so this probably
continued on down farther.
624
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,294
- Sure.
- I can also see
625
00:27:24,295 --> 00:27:25,459
this as a step,
626
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:28,931
and you have a block
of wood down here,
627
00:27:28,932 --> 00:27:32,195
and you’re nailing the
remainder that’s broken off here.
628
00:27:32,196 --> 00:27:33,799
You’re nailing it
in. At some point,
629
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,195
Broke. - Mm-hmm.
630
00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:38,327
And that would explain
why there are no nails.
631
00:27:38,328 --> 00:27:40,196
- Yes, it would.
- Yeah.
632
00:27:40,932 --> 00:27:43,459
Which of these would
you carbon-date?
633
00:27:43,460 --> 00:27:45,327
I probably would do-do that,
634
00:27:45,328 --> 00:27:47,063
but the bad thing about that
635
00:27:47,064 --> 00:27:49,426
- is we really don’t know what it is.
- Mm-hmm.
636
00:27:49,427 --> 00:27:51,063
But it’s clearly worked by man,
637
00:27:51,064 --> 00:27:53,459
so if it came back to 1200 AD,
638
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:55,426
- that would be meaningful.
- Yeah. Yeah.
639
00:27:55,427 --> 00:27:59,327
It’s certainly
gratifying that Dr. Spence feels
640
00:27:59,328 --> 00:28:01,459
that several of the
items on the table
641
00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:03,195
are nautical in appearance.
642
00:28:03,196 --> 00:28:05,931
He says, "Yes, this could
be from a ship. This is even..."
643
00:28:05,932 --> 00:28:08,327
I think he might have even
said "likely from a ship."
644
00:28:08,328 --> 00:28:10,459
We need to test this
thing more, though,
645
00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:12,294
because it could
have more information
646
00:28:12,295 --> 00:28:14,459
based on what cultures did this.
647
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:16,195
We need to follow
this one a little bit.
648
00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:17,327
Found it very interesting.
649
00:28:17,328 --> 00:28:21,931
Well, Lee, look, thank you.
That was extremely informative.
650
00:28:21,932 --> 00:28:22,800
It’s a fresh impression
651
00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:24,931
on things we just
didn’t think about,
652
00:28:24,932 --> 00:28:26,558
and that’s always very valuable.
653
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,063
So, I thank you again
on behalf of the team.
654
00:28:29,064 --> 00:28:31,195
Thank you for inviting me here.
655
00:28:31,196 --> 00:28:32,459
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
656
00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:34,294
As Rick, Marty and Craig
657
00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:36,558
finish their meeting
in the war room...
658
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:40,195
So, you ready to put
some coil to the soil, mate?
659
00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:41,558
I’m
ready. I’m ready.
660
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,195
Metal
detection expert Gary Drayton
661
00:28:44,196 --> 00:28:46,195
and treasure hunter Michael John
662
00:28:46,196 --> 00:28:48,063
arrive at Lot 32.
663
00:28:48,064 --> 00:28:51,195
Different lot, different
treasure hunting prospects,
664
00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:54,030
- mate. All the time.
- Yeah. Exactly.
665
00:28:54,031 --> 00:28:55,459
They are eager to search
666
00:28:55,460 --> 00:29:00,195
for new and hopefully
valuable clues and artifacts.
667
00:29:00,196 --> 00:29:02,931
I expect there’s
gonna be some signs...
668
00:29:02,932 --> 00:29:05,195
- Yeah.
- Of wharf activity
669
00:29:05,196 --> 00:29:06,931
- in this area.
- Yeah, that’s right. Exactly. Yeah.
670
00:29:06,932 --> 00:29:11,931
And this could be a
golden opportunity for us.
671
00:29:11,932 --> 00:29:13,030
That’s right.
672
00:29:13,031 --> 00:29:14,063
What have we got here?
673
00:29:14,064 --> 00:29:17,195
- Just one week ago...
- Look at the size of that.
674
00:29:17,196 --> 00:29:19,063
Working with Marty Lagina,
675
00:29:19,064 --> 00:29:21,327
Gary uncovered a large spike
676
00:29:21,328 --> 00:29:24,327
that may date back
three centuries or more
677
00:29:24,328 --> 00:29:27,195
and which blacksmithing
expert Carmen Legge believes
678
00:29:27,196 --> 00:29:33,064
was used to anchor ships to
large boulders on the beach.
679
00:29:37,932 --> 00:29:39,327
Oh.
680
00:29:39,328 --> 00:29:41,459
And it was also on Lot 32
681
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:44,459
that, one year
ago, the team found
682
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:46,195
not only a large wharf spike
683
00:29:46,196 --> 00:29:49,931
but also a lead cargo bag seal.
684
00:29:49,932 --> 00:29:51,327
With there being a wharf here
685
00:29:51,328 --> 00:29:54,195
and the artifacts we’ve
already recovered, mate,
686
00:29:54,196 --> 00:29:58,459
- I want to know what they were unloading here.
- Yes.
687
00:29:58,460 --> 00:30:01,459
And what connection this
area has to the Money Pit.
688
00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:04,931
I got a good feeling about
this lot, especially having
689
00:30:04,932 --> 00:30:06,459
- so many flags to go for.
- Yes.
690
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:09,327
- All right, mate. You ready to get stuck in?
- I’m ready.
691
00:30:09,328 --> 00:30:10,459
Let’s go for it.
692
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:13,525
We have made
some significant discoveries
693
00:30:13,526 --> 00:30:17,459
on Lot 32. Uh, close
proximity to the ocean.
694
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:19,459
One could suggest or speculate
695
00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:21,195
that people were in that area
696
00:30:21,196 --> 00:30:23,459
carrying a load on
and onto a wharf.
697
00:30:23,460 --> 00:30:26,799
If we find that they’re
headed in a certain direction,
698
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,195
we can draw that line.
699
00:30:28,196 --> 00:30:30,898
So, every little
clue is important.
700
00:30:30,899 --> 00:30:35,130
Ah, mate. Another good
two-way repeatable signal.
701
00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:52,799
- Oh, still in the hole, I believe.
- Yes, it is.
702
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,294
Unless it’s on the edge.
703
00:30:54,295 --> 00:30:56,899
Come, baby. Be in there.
704
00:30:57,932 --> 00:30:59,327
Oh, look at how deep
705
00:30:59,328 --> 00:31:01,063
- that is, mate. Yeah.
- That’s deep. Yep.
706
00:31:01,064 --> 00:31:02,195
Like I always tell you, Michael.
707
00:31:02,196 --> 00:31:05,460
- Yeah.
- Deeper it is, the older it normally is.
708
00:31:10,064 --> 00:31:11,931
- Well, mate, we’ll see if we got it out.
- Sure.
709
00:31:11,932 --> 00:31:15,932
- - You have got it out.
- I did. Yeah.
710
00:31:21,328 --> 00:31:22,064
There we go.
711
00:31:22,065 --> 00:31:24,426
Oh, I always get excited
when you see this edge.
712
00:31:24,427 --> 00:31:28,196
- You see that nice, round edge there, mate?
- Yes.
713
00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:32,559
Is it a coin? Or is it a button?
714
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,162
- You see that nice, round edge there, mate?
- Yeah.
715
00:31:44,163 --> 00:31:46,931
Is it a coin? Or is it a button?
716
00:31:46,932 --> 00:31:49,327
- Let it be a coin.
- It’s a coin,
717
00:31:49,328 --> 00:31:51,162
- mate! It’s a coin!
- Yes! Yes.
718
00:31:51,163 --> 00:31:53,063
- Look at that. -Oh, my gosh.
719
00:31:53,064 --> 00:31:57,327
On Lot 32,
just west of the swamp,
720
00:31:57,328 --> 00:32:00,129
metal detection
expert Gary Drayton
721
00:32:00,130 --> 00:32:02,426
and treasure hunter Michael John
722
00:32:02,427 --> 00:32:05,865
have just made a
potentially valuable discovery.
723
00:32:05,866 --> 00:32:08,327
Now, I don’t know how old, mate.
724
00:32:08,328 --> 00:32:10,558
And it is always tempting
725
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:12,931
just to-to rub it,
726
00:32:12,932 --> 00:32:15,327
- but we can’t just in case we damage it.
- Yeah. No.
727
00:32:15,328 --> 00:32:19,525
Get this to Kelly in
the archaeology trailer, mate.
728
00:32:19,526 --> 00:32:20,799
He’ll do his business on this.
729
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,294
- Mm-hmm.
- But why I’m excited
730
00:32:22,295 --> 00:32:26,063
about this coin, mate. It
looks like an old British copper.
731
00:32:26,064 --> 00:32:28,426
And it wasn’t that long ago
732
00:32:28,427 --> 00:32:31,162
when it was Rick, Marty,
733
00:32:31,163 --> 00:32:33,063
uh, Dave and I.
734
00:32:33,064 --> 00:32:35,931
We were on that ridge on
the other side of the swamp.
735
00:32:35,932 --> 00:32:38,459
We pulled two coins
up. British coppers
736
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:42,063
- from the 1600s, mate.
- Yeah. Oh.
737
00:32:42,064 --> 00:32:43,931
That’s Charles II.
738
00:32:43,932 --> 00:32:49,162
- Come on.
- Yeah, that’s Charles. And I can see a carolus.
739
00:32:49,163 --> 00:32:51,525
Four years ago
740
00:32:51,526 --> 00:32:52,799
on Lot 16
741
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,261
in the same area where
the team has found evidence
742
00:32:55,262 --> 00:32:56,898
of cargo being transported
743
00:32:56,899 --> 00:32:58,261
between the swamp
and the Money Pit...
744
00:32:58,262 --> 00:33:01,799
That’s way too early for people
to be here. - Gary,
745
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,426
along with Rick, Marty
and Dave Blankenship,
746
00:33:04,427 --> 00:33:07,799
discovered two
17th-century British coins.
747
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,426
- It means something!
- That is fantastic.
748
00:33:11,427 --> 00:33:14,162
This has been taking a dirt nap
749
00:33:14,163 --> 00:33:16,294
for a very long time.
750
00:33:16,295 --> 00:33:18,195
Although
the team has found evidence
751
00:33:18,196 --> 00:33:20,997
dating as far back
as the 14th century
752
00:33:20,998 --> 00:33:24,426
of both French and Portuguese
activity on Oak Island,
753
00:33:24,427 --> 00:33:26,898
could this coin offer
possible evidence
754
00:33:26,899 --> 00:33:30,129
that a British operation
to hide valuables here
755
00:33:30,130 --> 00:33:32,195
took place sometime later?
756
00:33:32,196 --> 00:33:35,030
Perhaps in the 17th century?
757
00:33:35,031 --> 00:33:37,195
I can’t believe how
thin the-the coin is, man.
758
00:33:37,196 --> 00:33:40,030
Which is great for
us. The thinner it is,
759
00:33:40,031 --> 00:33:43,129
- the more chance that it’s an older coin.
- Yeah.
760
00:33:43,130 --> 00:33:45,865
- Dang, mate. This is brilliant.
- Yeah.
761
00:33:45,866 --> 00:33:48,327
Oh, fantastic.
762
00:33:48,328 --> 00:33:49,525
- You can’t beat it.
- Yeah.
763
00:33:49,526 --> 00:33:52,558
This is the reason
why Michael John and I
764
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,393
came back to Lot 32.
765
00:33:54,394 --> 00:33:55,196
The chance
766
00:33:55,197 --> 00:33:59,459
of holding a beautiful old
coin like this in our hands.
767
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,799
Uh, this has got
1700s written all over it,
768
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,393
and I’m fairly certain when
this coin is cleaned up,
769
00:34:06,394 --> 00:34:09,195
there is gonna be a king on it.
770
00:34:09,196 --> 00:34:12,525
Oh, beautiful. Love it.
771
00:34:12,526 --> 00:34:15,130
You can’t beat it.
772
00:34:21,328 --> 00:34:23,327
What a sloppy mess, eh?
773
00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:26,558
While operations
continue at both the swamp
774
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:28,932
and the Money Pit area...
775
00:34:30,064 --> 00:34:31,931
Every day could
be the day, Charles.
776
00:34:31,932 --> 00:34:34,162
- Afternoon, guys.
- Hi, guys.
777
00:34:34,163 --> 00:34:37,063
- Hello, guys.
- Rick and Marty Lagina,
778
00:34:37,064 --> 00:34:38,898
along with their
partner, Craig Tester,
779
00:34:38,899 --> 00:34:40,898
have gathered
members of the team
780
00:34:40,899 --> 00:34:44,063
in the war room to
hear a scientific report
781
00:34:44,064 --> 00:34:46,799
on two of their most
recent discoveries.
782
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,997
These two items that we
have here, both, I think,
783
00:34:48,998 --> 00:34:50,294
we found quite interesting.
784
00:34:50,295 --> 00:34:51,196
They were retrieved
785
00:34:51,197 --> 00:34:53,558
from roughly ten feet
down in the swamp.
786
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:55,865
The first of these artifacts
787
00:34:55,866 --> 00:34:56,931
was found one week ago
788
00:34:56,932 --> 00:34:59,129
near the southern
edge of the swamp.
789
00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,426
The second, discovered
in the same area this week,
790
00:35:02,427 --> 00:35:05,261
was identified as possibly
being part of a ship
791
00:35:05,262 --> 00:35:09,898
by renowned underwater
archaeologist Dr. Lee Spence.
792
00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:14,799
Marty, you are well aware
of the items in front of us.
793
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,426
We have a little
one. It’s the one
794
00:35:16,427 --> 00:35:19,162
that Tom Nolan mentioned
had a rope burn on it.
795
00:35:19,163 --> 00:35:21,393
Yeah. Yes, I’m quite aware. Yes.
796
00:35:21,394 --> 00:35:23,997
And then we
have this trapezoidal piece
797
00:35:23,998 --> 00:35:26,063
that we thought was very old,
798
00:35:26,064 --> 00:35:28,558
and I think that was
really the impetus
799
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,558
for sending it in
for C-14 testing.
800
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:32,460
But we have those results,
801
00:35:32,461 --> 00:35:34,162
and Dr. Spooner’s
intrigued by them,
802
00:35:34,163 --> 00:35:37,931
I believe. So, he’s gonna
tell us what his thoughts are.
803
00:35:37,932 --> 00:35:41,932
So, the swamp is critical.
804
00:35:42,460 --> 00:35:44,327
Uh, as I’ve said so
many times before,
805
00:35:44,328 --> 00:35:46,865
the swamp is a book.
806
00:35:46,866 --> 00:35:48,799
Because every time we dig there,
807
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,459
there’s something very
important that we might find out.
808
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:53,799
Not just about artifacts
809
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,459
but also about what’s
gone on in the past.
810
00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:59,294
You know, so, we have two
pieces in front of us. Two...
811
00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:00,799
Two wood pieces that
I was very interested in
812
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,294
and because Billy found
them at significant depth.
813
00:36:04,295 --> 00:36:08,327
So we know it’s in an
early chapter in the book.
814
00:36:08,328 --> 00:36:12,931
Um, both of them look
like nautical pieces to me.
815
00:36:12,932 --> 00:36:14,294
And the trapezoidal piece there,
816
00:36:14,295 --> 00:36:19,800
it dated out at,
uh, 1683 to 1735.
817
00:36:24,998 --> 00:36:27,195
The trapezoidal
piece, it dated out
818
00:36:27,196 --> 00:36:29,327
at 1683 to 1735.
819
00:36:29,328 --> 00:36:32,261
In the Oak Island war room,
820
00:36:32,262 --> 00:36:34,327
geoscientist Dr. Ian Spooner
821
00:36:34,328 --> 00:36:38,525
is presenting a carbon-14
report on two wooden artifacts
822
00:36:38,526 --> 00:36:39,460
recently found in the swamp
823
00:36:39,461 --> 00:36:43,799
that he believes could be
parts of an ancient sailing vessel.
824
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,393
- Let’s stop on that one for a minute...
- Yeah.
825
00:36:45,394 --> 00:36:47,525
’cause I just want to say
something with that piece.
826
00:36:47,526 --> 00:36:49,799
We looked at that
with Dr. Spence
827
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,195
in a... in a war room,
828
00:36:51,196 --> 00:36:53,799
and it reminded me of something.
829
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,459
So Scott and I
took a-a road trip,
830
00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:57,426
and we went to the Maritime
Museum of the Atlantic.
831
00:36:57,427 --> 00:37:01,393
And this is what
it reminded me of.
832
00:37:01,394 --> 00:37:02,865
It’s one of the longboats
833
00:37:02,866 --> 00:37:05,261
that you would bring
provisions and whatnot in
834
00:37:05,262 --> 00:37:07,931
from a bigger ship to shore.
835
00:37:07,932 --> 00:37:10,426
And inside that
836
00:37:10,427 --> 00:37:12,932
is this.
837
00:37:13,394 --> 00:37:15,162
It’s like a bulkhead.
838
00:37:15,163 --> 00:37:16,997
- Bulkheads of the boat.
- Yep.
839
00:37:16,998 --> 00:37:19,030
That’s what I think that is.
840
00:37:19,031 --> 00:37:21,558
- Yeah, I’d agree 100%.
- So, that makes it really interesting
841
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,261
- because it is something nautical...
- Right.
842
00:37:24,262 --> 00:37:28,063
In our swamp. Or-or
it would appear to be.
843
00:37:28,064 --> 00:37:29,898
So, does that mean
that people are bringing
844
00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:31,799
small boats into the swamp?
845
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,129
This may lend
846
00:37:33,130 --> 00:37:35,129
a little bit more credibility
847
00:37:35,730 --> 00:37:36,993
to that story.
848
00:37:36,994 --> 00:37:38,795
- A
- fragment of a bulkhead
849
00:37:38,796 --> 00:37:42,465
or cargo hold from a
small sailing vessel?
850
00:37:43,066 --> 00:37:47,362
And dating back
to as early as 1683?
851
00:37:47,363 --> 00:37:48,593
During the colonial period
852
00:37:48,594 --> 00:37:52,263
between the late 15th
and 18th centuries,
853
00:37:52,264 --> 00:37:53,725
massive sailing vessels
854
00:37:53,726 --> 00:37:55,527
that were too big to
be docked at shore
855
00:37:55,528 --> 00:37:58,263
were often anchored
in deeper waters
856
00:37:58,264 --> 00:38:00,263
as smaller boats were utilized
857
00:38:00,264 --> 00:38:02,999
to carry cargo to
shipping wharfs.
858
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,098
Since the team has
unearthed the stone wharf
859
00:38:06,099 --> 00:38:08,131
in the southeast
corner of the swamp,
860
00:38:08,132 --> 00:38:11,065
could Doug and
Dr. Spooner be correct
861
00:38:11,066 --> 00:38:13,131
that this artifact is evidence
862
00:38:13,132 --> 00:38:15,197
of such an operation
being conducted
863
00:38:15,198 --> 00:38:18,263
in the 17th century
on Oak Island?
864
00:38:18,264 --> 00:38:23,065
The dates that seem to be
relevant more and more are
865
00:38:23,066 --> 00:38:25,395
mid-1600s to the late 1600s.
866
00:38:25,396 --> 00:38:29,197
Human beings were at
that level doing some work,
867
00:38:29,198 --> 00:38:31,725
some endeavor to hide something,
868
00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:34,197
save something, store something.
869
00:38:34,198 --> 00:38:38,999
I believe we must continue
to do the work necessary
870
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,395
to come to a further
understanding
871
00:38:41,396 --> 00:38:42,494
of what the swamp can tell us
872
00:38:42,495 --> 00:38:47,197
in terms of what the original
depositional work was.
873
00:38:47,198 --> 00:38:48,725
How about the other one?
874
00:38:48,726 --> 00:38:51,197
The second sample, I’ve
never seen that before.
875
00:38:51,198 --> 00:38:52,099
I don’t know what it is.
876
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,527
- But there’s a rope burn on it.
- Yeah.
877
00:38:53,528 --> 00:38:56,329
- Mm-hmm.
- So, again, we have
878
00:38:56,330 --> 00:38:59,725
dates that range
from 1680 to 1740.
879
00:38:59,726 --> 00:39:01,098
Hmm. Interesting.
880
00:39:01,099 --> 00:39:05,999
I’d say that those two
are very, very similar age
881
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,395
but pre-searcher.
882
00:39:08,396 --> 00:39:10,264
Oh, absolutely.
883
00:39:10,462 --> 00:39:12,395
So, that’s sort of
where my story ends.
884
00:39:12,396 --> 00:39:15,362
The swamp is still a
very important place.
885
00:39:15,363 --> 00:39:18,494
I know we’ve done a lot
of looking and searching,
886
00:39:18,495 --> 00:39:21,758
but there’s still areas that we
haven’t really touched too much.
887
00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:25,395
Well, for my part, the
dates are wonderful.
888
00:39:25,396 --> 00:39:28,329
They raise all
kinds of possibilities.
889
00:39:28,330 --> 00:39:30,395
And, okay, there
was a lot of activity
890
00:39:30,396 --> 00:39:32,725
between 1680 and 1750.
891
00:39:32,726 --> 00:39:34,659
Well, who were those people?
892
00:39:34,660 --> 00:39:37,263
Were they here looking
for something themselves?
893
00:39:37,264 --> 00:39:39,725
Or were they depositing,
894
00:39:39,726 --> 00:39:42,197
which would be more exciting?
895
00:39:42,198 --> 00:39:45,527
The swamp is more of a
mystery than it’s ever been.
896
00:39:45,528 --> 00:39:48,593
We found all kinds of
things that seem out of place
897
00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:50,527
and several pieces of wood
898
00:39:50,528 --> 00:39:53,527
that could have
been used on a ship.
899
00:39:53,528 --> 00:39:55,197
Now we have hard science
900
00:39:55,198 --> 00:39:57,197
from many different
methodologies
901
00:39:57,198 --> 00:40:01,725
that something significant
happened here in the late 1600s.
902
00:40:01,726 --> 00:40:05,659
The swamp continues,
really, to be enigmatic
903
00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:07,593
and a real puzzle.
904
00:40:07,594 --> 00:40:09,263
How about you, Rick?
905
00:40:10,726 --> 00:40:15,065
That, you know, you’re
always looking for science
906
00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:17,329
to provide overlap information,
907
00:40:17,330 --> 00:40:20,132
and I think we
have it here today.
908
00:40:20,528 --> 00:40:22,230
I think these dates are
909
00:40:22,231 --> 00:40:23,659
interesting
evidence of activity,
910
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:27,131
- but I-I want to know the why, obviously.
- I do, too.
911
00:40:27,132 --> 00:40:29,659
So, that’s where I’m at.
912
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:31,230
But we have to take every lesson
913
00:40:31,231 --> 00:40:33,659
we learn in this room
and apply it out back,
914
00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:35,527
you know, with
the eyes and boots.
915
00:40:35,528 --> 00:40:39,461
This has been very informative
and-and, uh, and enlightening,
916
00:40:39,462 --> 00:40:42,362
so we appreciate it, certainly.
917
00:40:42,363 --> 00:40:43,330
Good.
918
00:40:43,331 --> 00:40:44,659
- Works for me.
- Okay.
919
00:40:44,660 --> 00:40:47,527
- See you later.
- See you the next time.
920
00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:51,527
At the close
of another incredible week,
921
00:40:51,528 --> 00:40:53,527
Rick, Marty, Craig
and their team
922
00:40:53,528 --> 00:40:55,725
have more scientific evidence
923
00:40:55,726 --> 00:40:58,329
that something of great
importance took place
924
00:40:58,330 --> 00:41:03,000
on Oak Island long before
the discovery of the Money Pit.
925
00:41:03,264 --> 00:41:05,593
But perhaps more importantly,
926
00:41:05,594 --> 00:41:08,329
they have evidence
that something
927
00:41:08,330 --> 00:41:10,527
so valuable was brought here,
928
00:41:10,528 --> 00:41:13,329
it inspired the
creation of a swamp
929
00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:14,330
to hide the evidence
930
00:41:14,331 --> 00:41:18,065
and a burial site so
ingeniously engineered
931
00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:23,065
that it has eluded seekers
for more than two centuries.
932
00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:25,131
The question now is
933
00:41:25,132 --> 00:41:27,527
how much longer
can it elude Rick,
934
00:41:27,528 --> 00:41:32,363
Marty and the
Fellowship of the Dig?
935
00:41:35,264 --> 00:41:38,131
Next time on The
Curse of Oak Island...
936
00:41:38,132 --> 00:41:41,396
- Today could be the day.
- We got a core.
937
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,527
Oh, man. That’s cool.
938
00:41:43,528 --> 00:41:46,197
Were there certain
boxes that would have that type
939
00:41:46,198 --> 00:41:48,659
- of sheeting on it?
- Only for valuables.
940
00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:50,593
- Gary, what do you make of this?
- Oh, yeah.
941
00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:52,758
We’re looking for a ship.
That’s the type of find
942
00:41:52,759 --> 00:41:55,527
- you want to be pulling up.
- We know
943
00:41:55,528 --> 00:41:57,362
that Phips found silver
on the Concepción,
944
00:41:57,363 --> 00:41:58,330
and I believe
945
00:41:58,331 --> 00:42:00,197
some of the treasure
from the Concepción
946
00:42:00,198 --> 00:42:02,131
- was secreted to Oak Island.
- Wow.
947
00:42:02,132 --> 00:42:03,593
That is remarkable.
948
00:42:03,617 --> 00:42:05,617
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