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[engine running]
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[knocking]
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[man] Yo, it's
appointment only.
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[interviewer]
How are you feeling?
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Not as good
as you look.
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Jeez.
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[Johnny] You look like
Lex Luthor.
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It's about 11:45.
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[interviewer] Johnny,
we have a goal today.
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-What's that?
-Before the trip is over,
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-Yep.
-We're gonna come up
with a title for your film.
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Wow, that's gonna
be hard.
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That's gonna be fun.
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[Johnny] Well, I don't
fucking have any idea.
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No idea at all.
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[interviewer] Say that again?
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"Down and Dirty."
Isn't it all that?
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" Johnny Winter:
Down and Dirty?"
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Yes. That's
a great name.
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Hey, Billy!
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-We're leaving pretty soon?
-Yep.
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What, half an hour?
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...told you already.
I know that. He told me.
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I said 12:30.
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That's right. He said
about 20 minutes,
right?
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What's up, rockers?
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Hey.
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Hi, Johnny,
how're you doing?
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What was one
of the suggestions
for the title of the movie?
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I thought,"Down and Dirty"
was a good title.
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"Down and Dirty:
The Johnny Winter story."
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-Yeah.
-That'll be cool.
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It describes
your life.
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Yeah. It sure does.
[laughing]
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-It's pretty cool.
-"Down and Dirty"...
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[laughing]
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No.
Down and Dirty.
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Let's hear
your version.
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Down and Dirty.
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Down and Dirty!
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[ Highway 61 Revisitedplaying]
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[birds chirping]
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[coughing]
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[interviewer] Is it working?
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[Johnny]
Yeah, it is.
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[ Cross Road Bluesplaying]
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[Johnny] That is so good.
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I couldn't believe it
when I first heard
Robert Johnson.
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Nobody could play
slide that good.
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I learned a lot of stuff
listening to his records.
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[record playing]
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[singing along to record]
♪ Save poor Bob
if you please ♪
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♪
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♪ Tried to flag a ride
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Cream did a version
of this, but it wasn't
near as good. [laughs]
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Wasn't even close.
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♪
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Every blues player in
the world does
Robert Johnson songs.
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He's just the best.
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Eric Clapton loves him.
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You can't not love
Robert Johnson.
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If you like blues,
you're gonna like Robert.
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♪
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Come on out here.
I got something
to show you.
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Be right out!
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Oh, ain't that nice?
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Mike got one
for you too.
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He didn't get me nothing. I bought a whole bag...
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[engine running]
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Oh! Oh, great.
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Hello.
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Hi, how are you?
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-This.
-Yep.
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And do this.
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And do this.
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Is it possible or...
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-Yeah, sure.
-Yes?
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-Yes.
-This.
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This, and do this.
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And do this.
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-Cheese?
-Cheese. [laughing]
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[speaking French]
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-Maybe see you again.
-Okay.
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Great.
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[interviewer] You think
sometimes, people bring
too many things to get signed?
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Damn right, they do.
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-Okay, Johnny, for this hand,
you can do it...
-Okay.
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Um, with one hand
or both hands, how...
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did you feel better?
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Okay, can you stand up
please, and we do walks?
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Okay, I go with you.
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One...
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Two...
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Three...
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Four...
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Five...
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Okay.
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Perfect.
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-You have to stand
upright much as you can.
-Yep.
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Perfect.
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Well done.
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That's not too bad.
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If you try it
everyday, so it's getting
better everyday.
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Your muscles
are too short
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from standing
on the...
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wrong position.
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Also much better
for your lungs,
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to get more air inside.
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[Paul] Your arms
are bigger already.
You see that?
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Look at the muscles.
Look at the arm,
the right arm.
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It's great.
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[Paul] This job
is more difficult
then most, obviously,
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because there's the health
issue, and the age issue,
and all that, you know.
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I've had a crystal ball
into everyone's future.
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And what they're gonna
deal with in life,
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and insurance, and health,
way before my time.
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But it's very educating.
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The results of helping
someone that's given you
so much musically
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is priceless.
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To play with an artist
that you've admired
is priceless.
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And to just help out,
as corny as it sounds,
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to help out... a friend.
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Want me to fix
that for you?
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Yeah, come
here, buddy.
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Here, hold
those pliers.
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Okay, here,
just grab that
with a plier.
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Okay.
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Wait a minute.
I can't get it.
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There you go.
Okay, you hold
that thing there.
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All right.
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Just stand there.
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[laughing] I'm not
standing here for long
with this thing out here.
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[Scott] I've never been
a manager, but I could
never manage Johnny.
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I really couldn't.
I couldn't do it
because
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I don't have the,uh,
the wherewithal
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or the patience
in the beginning,
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to get things started
to where they are now.
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All right,
that should do it.
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-Get back in the bus.
-All right.
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Thank you.
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[laughing]
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That's my boss.
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[Scott] When we first
saw Johnny, when I
started playing with Johnny,
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the drummer wanted
to know if he was okay
to tour.
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Would that be okay
to go out and do a gig?
Because...
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He didn't look
so good.
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Johnny's weight was,
I'd say it was 90 pounds.
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You know, he was...
He was not good.
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Uh, he was still
smoking cigarettes,
still drinking.
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Still on his legal
medication, and all
that stuff.
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It was hard to see him
like that because
you liked the guy.
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But we hoped
if he could be brought
out of that,
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and slowly taken off
all that stuff,
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he'd be the guy
he used to be.
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Can we get Archie
back on?
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Oh yeah,
you want some more
Archie Bunker?
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Yes.
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I used to like
that show so much,
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if it was on when I had
to play, I wouldn't play
till it was over.
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[Tommy] I met Johnny back
in 1996, when he was with
his old manager,
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and it was...
It was heartbreaking.
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Johnny was a walking
skeleton, he... Incoherent,
couldn't speak.
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So, to be on the road
with Johnny now,
is just...
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I missed out on a lot
of the bad stuff. I came in
at a great time.
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♪[Johnny] Far across
The deep blue water ♪
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♪ Lived an old
German's daughter ♪
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♪ On the banks
Of the old River Rhine ♪
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♪ Where I loved her
And left her
But I can't forget her ♪
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♪ She is my pretty Fraulein
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A lot of peoples wonder,
"What is the blues?"
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I hear a lot
of people saying,
"The blues, the blues..."
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but I'm gonna tell you
what the blues is.
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When you ain't
got no money,
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you got the blues.
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When you ain't got no money
to pay your house rent,
you still got the blues.
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A lot of people
holler about,
"I don't like no blues,"
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but when you ain't
got no money,
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and can't pay your house rent,
and can't buy you no food,
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you damn sure
got the blues.
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[blues music playing]
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[Johnny] My grandmother,
she had a guy that
worked in her yard
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and a maid that worked
in her kitchen
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and they played
the black station
in Beaumont,
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KJAT.
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And so I started listening
to KJAT all the time.
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[interviewer]
What did it sound like?
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That was great music.
I'd never heard anything
like that before.
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I loved it.
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[interviewer] So, what do you
think attracted you to it?
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I don't know what it was
I was feeling.
Just the emotions.
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It was just great music.
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Really made me feel good
listening to it.
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[ Hoochie Coochie Manplaying]
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[Warren] I can't imagine
what it was like,
to hear that stuff
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before the rock music
that I grew up on existed,
you know.
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I've often thought
what it would be like
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to hear Smokestack Lightning
coming over the radio,
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and Howlin' Wolf's voice
just scaring the hell out
of everybody, you know?
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[ Smokestack Lightning
playing]
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[Edgar] People have a tendency
to look at the blues
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as something old, archaic,
something that, you know,
started long time ago,
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and has already happened,
you know, forgetting
that blues always had,
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and continues to exert
this profound influence,
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over all the pop music
that we hear today.
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[Joe Perry] Most of our music is based directly in the blues,
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where you can hear
the actual influences.
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And then, there are other songs that you don't really hear the familiar chord changes.
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Um, but I know
where they came from,
you know.
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I know who
I'm stealing from.
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[ Death Letter Blues
playing]
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[Billy] Blues has been
pigeonholed into different
kinds of expressions.
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There's the country blues,
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Chicago blues is when all
the Mississippi guys
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and Louisiana guys,
Texas guys, wound up
in Chicago.
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The Texas blues
was not necessarily
electric.
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You had Mance Lipscomb,
you had Lightnin' Hopkins,
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You had so many guys
that were minstrels
from way, way back.
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And then, of course,
when you had the opportunity
to plug things in,
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it was just
more hot rod.
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[ Let's Boogieplaying]
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[Susan Tedeschi]
When I was going
to college,
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I started going
to this record store,
called "The Stereo Jacks".
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And I'd spend like $200
at a time.
224
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Come out with
all these records like,
225
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T-Bone Walker,
Big Mama Thornton,
and Koko Taylor,
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and Etta James,
and Freddie King,
and Otis Rush.
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I was like,
"Why did I never
know these people,
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"and why aren't they playing
on the radio everyday?"
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'Cause to me,
that is powerful music.
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[tuning guitar]
231
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Damn, this is hard
to tune.
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Son of a bitch!
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That's good enough.
234
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Oh, this is not as hard
as it seemed like
it was gonna be.
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-Oh, it's gonna be a pain-
-Oh, it's gonna be hard.
236
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Okay, where's my...
237
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Where's my stuff?
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-Here's your pick,
here's your slide.
-Okay.
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Do your thing.
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[ Death Letterplaying]
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[Edgar] Johnny and I
started out as kids,
242
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playing ukuleles and singing
Everly Brothers' songs,
243
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like, Wake Up Little Susie
and Hey, Bird Dog.
244
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[Johnny] My father was very
musical. He sang, and played
the banjo and the saxophone.
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They'd teach me songs
from the 20's and 30's.
246
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[Edgar] They quickly realized that Johnny and I were special.
247
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And they encouraged us.
248
00:16:32,336 --> 00:16:34,165
[Johnny] I was in
the church choir.
249
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I got kicked out
'cause I was singing
too loud,
250
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and I said, "I'm not singing
too loud, those other fuckers
are singing way too quiet
251
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"that you can't
even hear 'em."
252
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I quit.
253
00:16:42,932 --> 00:16:44,417
[interviewer] How would you
describe your vision when you
were a kid?
254
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What would you...
what could you see?
255
00:16:45,970 --> 00:16:49,284
Well, I was legally blind.
256
00:16:49,318 --> 00:16:54,565
I had 2400 in one eye,
and 2600 in the other eye.
257
00:16:54,599 --> 00:16:56,256
That was 20/20.
258
00:16:56,291 --> 00:16:58,362
[interviewer] Did you feel like
the music was something
where vision didn't matter?
259
00:16:58,396 --> 00:17:01,641
Of course not.
It helps, actually.
260
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Your hearing's better.
261
00:17:03,505 --> 00:17:06,508
[Edgar] I think,
if it had been the situation
in either of our cases,
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where we had been
able to see,
263
00:17:08,579 --> 00:17:11,996
and then suddenly
we're deprived
of vision,
264
00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:13,618
that would be
a harder thing
to adjust to,
265
00:17:13,653 --> 00:17:15,482
but when you're born
a particular way,
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you learn to see
what you can't see.
267
00:17:18,899 --> 00:17:22,213
[interviewer] When was
the first time you realized
that you were different?
268
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Well, I suppose,
probably, seven
or eight.
269
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Somebody in the neighborhood
said, "You're not blind?"
and I said, "No, I'm not."
270
00:17:30,118 --> 00:17:32,913
Then I went home
and asked my mother,
"Hey, Mom, am I blind?"
271
00:17:32,948 --> 00:17:34,294
She said, "Yes.
Yeah, you are."
272
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I'd never heard
the word till then.
273
00:17:36,503 --> 00:17:39,920
I knew that I didn't
look like anybody else.
274
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I just didn't know
there was a word for it.
275
00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:44,201
[interviewer]
How were you treated?
276
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Some kids didn't like it.
Some kids just didn't like it
'cause I was different.
277
00:17:48,688 --> 00:17:50,345
I got in fights.
278
00:17:50,379 --> 00:17:53,417
In elementary school,
I got in a lot of fights.
279
00:17:53,451 --> 00:17:55,660
Somebody would tease me,
and I'd hit them.
280
00:17:55,695 --> 00:17:57,490
[interviewer] What made them
pick on you, do you think?
281
00:17:57,524 --> 00:17:59,423
Ah, it's just nuts.
It's stupid.
282
00:17:59,457 --> 00:18:01,908
Just 'cause you're
a different color,
they don't like it.
283
00:18:01,942 --> 00:18:03,668
They don't like
black people
'cause they're black.
284
00:18:03,703 --> 00:18:05,705
They didn't like me
'cause I was too white.
285
00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:08,225
It's just stupid.
286
00:18:08,259 --> 00:18:09,950
Never could figure it out.
287
00:18:09,985 --> 00:18:11,228
[blues music playing]
288
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[TV host] All right,
let's get back
to our story.
289
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Where were we?
290
00:18:16,025 --> 00:18:19,719
You were in a black club,
in where?
291
00:18:19,753 --> 00:18:20,858
In Beaumont, Texas.
292
00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:22,584
-Beaumont, Texas.
-Club Raven.
293
00:18:22,618 --> 00:18:26,381
Johnny and a few of his friends
came in and said,"Let me play,
let me play."
294
00:18:26,415 --> 00:18:29,556
That's true. Johnny,
he sent someone up
and...
295
00:18:29,591 --> 00:18:33,319
So, he's kinda shy,
he stayed in the background,
and the guy said,
296
00:18:33,353 --> 00:18:38,634
"Johnny would like to play."
So, I said to myself,
"No... Wouldn't like this."
297
00:18:38,669 --> 00:18:41,154
And then I started
thinking about it.
298
00:18:41,189 --> 00:18:43,018
First I asked,
"Can he play?"
299
00:18:43,052 --> 00:18:44,778
He said, "Oh yeah,
he can play."
300
00:18:44,813 --> 00:18:47,505
And I started thinking
about it, I said, "I really
don't want him to sit in,"
301
00:18:47,540 --> 00:18:49,783
'cause normally
I don't let nobody
sit in
302
00:18:49,818 --> 00:18:52,096
unless I really know them
and know what they do.
303
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:55,306
Then I started thinking
to myself,"Now here's a guy
that's white.
304
00:18:55,341 --> 00:18:59,621
"If I was in a white club
and I wanted to sit in,
and they don't let me sit in,
305
00:18:59,655 --> 00:19:02,244
"I might think that
they're doing it
because I'm black."
306
00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:05,558
And I said, "Now, he'll
think I'm doing it
because he's white."
307
00:19:05,592 --> 00:19:08,388
So, then I finally
reasoned with myself,
308
00:19:08,423 --> 00:19:10,218
and I told the guys,
well,
309
00:19:10,252 --> 00:19:13,669
"Got a guy, gonna let him
sit in, man" but I said,
"You can play one number."
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[all laughing]
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[TV host] How'd he do?
312
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Fantastic. He came in,
and people gave him
a standing ovation.
313
00:19:20,504 --> 00:19:22,885
-A standing ovation?
-They never gave me one.
314
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,578
-All the more reason
not to let him play.
-So I said, "Play some more."
315
00:19:25,612 --> 00:19:27,269
[both laughing]
316
00:19:27,304 --> 00:19:29,306
-How old were you?
-I was about 17.
317
00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:32,447
-In fact, I might
have a picture.
-There it is.
318
00:19:32,481 --> 00:19:34,932
-[B.B. King] There we are!
-[TV host] Can you believe it?
319
00:19:34,966 --> 00:19:38,211
[Billy Gibbons]
I remember him when he was
Johnny "Cool Daddy" Winter.
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00:19:38,246 --> 00:19:43,458
Some of the early records
that were regional hits
around the gulf coast...
321
00:19:44,735 --> 00:19:46,150
Johnny was a giant.
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[ Hey Hey Hey Heyplaying]
323
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[Billy] For those that
may not know,
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00:19:55,297 --> 00:19:57,886
of pre-Colombia
release record days,
325
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,303
Johnny had coined a string
of very popular numbers,
326
00:20:01,338 --> 00:20:04,341
that you can still find,
uh...
327
00:20:04,375 --> 00:20:05,894
Gotta dig deep
in the record box,
328
00:20:05,928 --> 00:20:09,553
and you'll find
a Johnny "Cool Daddy" Winter
record in there.
329
00:20:09,587 --> 00:20:11,796
[ That's What Love Does
playing]
330
00:20:21,772 --> 00:20:23,877
[radio jockey] All right,
Johnny, why don't you
gimme some songs?
331
00:20:23,912 --> 00:20:26,397
Let's see if we throw in
some songs up here, and then
we can start talking.
332
00:20:26,432 --> 00:20:28,434
[Johnny] How about,
Tu Le Ton Son Ton
Clifton Chenier.
333
00:20:28,468 --> 00:20:30,090
Groaning the Blues,
Otis Rush.
334
00:20:30,125 --> 00:20:32,231
Loving Man
by Muddy Waters.
335
00:20:32,265 --> 00:20:34,440
Got This Time I'm Through
by Memphis Slim.
336
00:20:34,474 --> 00:20:37,477
Uh... Travelin' Mood,
Wee Willie Wayne.
337
00:20:37,512 --> 00:20:41,274
Johnny, you win
on Wee Willie Wayne.
W-E-E?
338
00:20:41,309 --> 00:20:43,069
-Yeah.
-Yeah. You win.
339
00:20:43,103 --> 00:20:44,277
[laughing]
340
00:20:44,312 --> 00:20:45,278
No Wee Willie.
341
00:20:45,313 --> 00:20:46,659
No Wee Willie Wayne.
342
00:20:46,693 --> 00:20:49,282
I'm not even sure
I've ever heard Wee Willie.
343
00:20:49,317 --> 00:20:51,111
It must have been
one of those
Texas things.
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00:20:51,146 --> 00:20:53,286
♪ Feelin' kinda sad
And lonely
345
00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:55,978
♪ Lost my sweet
One and only ♪
346
00:20:56,013 --> 00:20:57,842
Oh, I do know
that tune.
347
00:20:57,877 --> 00:21:00,776
All right, we're recording.
Let's see if we can make
this magic happen, brother.
348
00:21:00,811 --> 00:21:02,122
All right.
349
00:21:02,157 --> 00:21:03,538
Good day.
My name's Bill Wax,
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00:21:03,572 --> 00:21:07,335
and my guest with me
today, is the fabulous
Johnny Winter.
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00:21:07,369 --> 00:21:08,750
Johnny, how are you today?
352
00:21:08,784 --> 00:21:09,923
Really good, Bill.
353
00:21:09,958 --> 00:21:10,855
It's good
to see you again.
354
00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:12,547
Yeah, it's great
to be back in DC.
355
00:21:12,581 --> 00:21:14,825
And you're looking...
Every time you come in,
356
00:21:14,859 --> 00:21:17,103
it looks like you've
gotten younger
and getting better.
357
00:21:17,137 --> 00:21:18,898
I don't understand
how you're doing it.
358
00:21:18,932 --> 00:21:21,487
Everyone else I know,
we're getting older
and we're lookin' like prunes.
359
00:21:21,521 --> 00:21:23,627
-What are you doin'?
-Got a picture in my closet.
360
00:21:24,835 --> 00:21:26,733
Picture that gets older
and I get younger.
361
00:21:26,768 --> 00:21:32,291
I see. Well, you know,
as long as no one gets
their hands on that picture.
362
00:21:32,325 --> 00:21:33,982
Well, you're looking great,
and you sound great.
363
00:21:34,016 --> 00:21:37,123
So, we got a bunch
of tunes,
some of your favorites.
364
00:21:37,157 --> 00:21:38,573
You're a big fan
of Lazy Lester.
365
00:21:38,607 --> 00:21:40,816
Been listening to him.
Did you know Lazy at all?
366
00:21:40,851 --> 00:21:43,578
Yeah, I was gonna tell you
the story about
when we went to Crawley,
367
00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:46,201
Jay Miller's studio,
where they recorded
Lightnin' Slim,
368
00:21:46,235 --> 00:21:49,308
Slim Harpo,
and Lonesome Sundown,
and all those people.
369
00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:54,243
And Lester was gonna play
on one of my records.
I was about 17.
370
00:21:54,278 --> 00:21:55,969
And he was in jail
for being drunk.
371
00:21:56,004 --> 00:21:57,833
We had to bail him
out of jail.
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00:21:57,868 --> 00:22:00,802
And as soon as he came
to the studio, he said,
"You wanna see a trick?
373
00:22:00,836 --> 00:22:02,493
"Gimme a quarter."
374
00:22:02,528 --> 00:22:06,083
I gave him a quarter.
He put it in the Coke machine
and bought himself a Coke.
375
00:22:06,117 --> 00:22:09,500
The trick was to trick me
into buying him a Coke.
376
00:22:09,535 --> 00:22:10,812
It was fun playing
with him?
377
00:22:10,846 --> 00:22:12,607
It was a lot of fun.
I've always liked Lester.
378
00:22:12,641 --> 00:22:15,851
And then you got
an Otis Rush cut? You wanna
play Double Trouble?
379
00:22:15,886 --> 00:22:18,544
-That was...
-Did you ever play
with Otis?
380
00:22:18,578 --> 00:22:20,511
I think I played
with him once.
381
00:22:20,546 --> 00:22:22,202
I wanted to produce
Otis,
382
00:22:22,237 --> 00:22:25,102
but I talked to him,
and he was very
uncooperative.
383
00:22:25,136 --> 00:22:27,415
He said,"I don't care
what it sounds like,
I just want the money."
384
00:22:27,449 --> 00:22:29,934
Ah well,
we'll just skip that.
385
00:22:29,969 --> 00:22:32,109
[all laughing]
386
00:22:32,143 --> 00:22:34,629
[Bill] The first interview
I ever did with Johnny,
387
00:22:34,663 --> 00:22:36,941
which is now,
six years ago...
seven years ago,
388
00:22:36,976 --> 00:22:39,841
Johnny was just coming out
of his old management.
389
00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:42,602
Paul had just
sort of taken over,
working with him.
390
00:22:42,637 --> 00:22:44,777
So, he brought Johnny in,
and really,
391
00:22:44,811 --> 00:22:48,988
Johnny was still
pretty much, doped up,
and all the other things,
392
00:22:49,022 --> 00:22:52,578
and so, we did this interview
where every answer
was one word.
393
00:22:52,612 --> 00:22:56,547
Yes. No.
Yes. No.
394
00:22:56,582 --> 00:22:58,480
I went home,
and said to my wife,
395
00:22:58,515 --> 00:23:03,416
"Boy, I don't know. That was
a little scary, this interview
with Johnny Winter, because,
396
00:23:03,451 --> 00:23:05,901
"I couldn't even tell
whether Johnny understood
397
00:23:05,936 --> 00:23:08,041
"what I was saying
to him, or anything."
398
00:23:08,076 --> 00:23:11,528
So, I called Paul, and I said, "Paul, I had a great time. Johnny's always welcome, but
399
00:23:11,562 --> 00:23:15,980
"I can't put this interview
on the air, because Johnny's
just too far out of it."
400
00:23:16,015 --> 00:23:18,811
But lo and behold,
the second year
he came in,
401
00:23:18,845 --> 00:23:21,296
Johnny was answering
in sentences.
402
00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:25,645
The third year he came in,
Johnny was answering
in paragraphs.
403
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,338
By the fourth year he came in,
Johnny was telling stories,
404
00:23:29,373 --> 00:23:34,274
and he had full memory,
and he was telling lies,
and having fun.
405
00:23:34,309 --> 00:23:37,657
And it is amazing
to see Johnny today.
406
00:23:37,692 --> 00:23:39,935
[ Double Troubleplaying]
407
00:24:01,957 --> 00:24:03,580
♪
408
00:24:19,596 --> 00:24:20,735
There you go.
409
00:24:32,229 --> 00:24:35,094
[interviewer] You pick up
the guitar because of what?
You heard what?
410
00:24:35,128 --> 00:24:36,647
Chuck Berry.
411
00:24:36,682 --> 00:24:38,960
Pretty much. He made me
wanna play the guitar.
412
00:24:38,994 --> 00:24:40,893
[interviewer]
How do you think
you got so damn good?
413
00:24:40,927 --> 00:24:42,860
Lot of practice.
414
00:24:42,895 --> 00:24:46,277
Even practiced like six hours
a day sometimes,
when I first started.
415
00:24:49,453 --> 00:24:51,938
It was something I really
wanted to do, too.
416
00:24:51,973 --> 00:24:54,769
I was really
obsessed with it
when I first started.
417
00:24:54,803 --> 00:24:57,047
[interviewer] How about
the thumb pick?
Where'd that come from?
418
00:24:57,081 --> 00:25:00,084
Well, Luther Nallie
taught me how to play
with a thumb pick.
419
00:25:01,189 --> 00:25:02,742
He played with
a thumb pick.
420
00:25:02,777 --> 00:25:04,641
So, I just,
when he taught me
how to play.
421
00:25:04,675 --> 00:25:06,539
I can't even play
with a flat pick.
422
00:25:06,574 --> 00:25:08,265
[Luther] When uh...
423
00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:12,165
Johnny was undertaking
lessons, I'd show him
things like...
424
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,857
[playing the guitar]
425
00:25:16,998 --> 00:25:19,276
You know, honky-tonk,
and stuff like that.
426
00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:21,658
They used a thumb pick,
uh,...
427
00:25:21,692 --> 00:25:23,798
[playing the guitar]
428
00:25:31,391 --> 00:25:34,463
You play the rhythm
and the melody
at the same time.
429
00:25:34,498 --> 00:25:36,051
Johnny could do that.
430
00:25:36,086 --> 00:25:37,984
[Johnny] Edgar was playing
guitar too.
431
00:25:38,019 --> 00:25:40,642
And for a while,
I had 'em both
at the same time.
432
00:25:40,677 --> 00:25:42,955
And I'd show him things
we could play together.
433
00:25:42,989 --> 00:25:46,130
Music was all...
what Johnny was,
you know.
434
00:25:46,165 --> 00:25:48,857
He just lived
and breathed
that guitar.
435
00:25:48,892 --> 00:25:52,585
In fact, at one point,
I ran out of things
to show him.
436
00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:56,209
'Cause, you know,
he would just
suck up everything.
437
00:25:56,244 --> 00:25:58,487
Just like a sponge.
438
00:25:58,522 --> 00:26:02,802
That I would show him,
and I was like, "My gosh,
what do I...
439
00:26:02,837 --> 00:26:05,529
"What am I going
to do with him today?"
440
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,910
[interviewer]
Where did the
Firebird come from?
441
00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:09,602
Ah, it came from Ed Seelig
in Saint Louis.
442
00:26:09,637 --> 00:26:10,983
[interviewer]
No, I mean, for you.
443
00:26:11,017 --> 00:26:12,916
In general, like,
how did you get hooked
on the Firebird?
444
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:15,815
Well, from Ed Seelig
in Saint Louis.
[laughing]
445
00:26:15,850 --> 00:26:20,786
He brought one out to me,
and I thought it looked cool,
it sounded cool, played good.
446
00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:24,030
So I bought it.
$225.
447
00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:26,826
[interviewer]
Which one was that?
448
00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:28,517
This one.
449
00:26:28,552 --> 00:26:30,105
-You bought
this one for $225?
-Yep.
450
00:26:30,554 --> 00:26:31,693
Sure did.
451
00:26:32,901 --> 00:26:35,041
That's all it cost me
back then.
452
00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:38,562
First-hand.
It was the 1970.
453
00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:41,876
Though that's
the coolest-looking guitar
I've ever seen.
454
00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:44,154
[ Murdering Bluesplaying]
455
00:27:18,602 --> 00:27:20,121
I love playing guitar.
456
00:27:21,709 --> 00:27:24,746
It's the only thing
I've ever really
been great at. [laughing]
457
00:27:25,609 --> 00:27:28,405
[ Tribute to Muddyplaying]
458
00:27:56,882 --> 00:27:59,781
I found another there,
with the Cohens.
459
00:27:59,816 --> 00:28:03,854
I wrote that
in 1976.
460
00:28:03,889 --> 00:28:06,685
When I bought those coins
for Edwina.
461
00:28:06,719 --> 00:28:11,586
And I paid $6,650
for 'em.
462
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:15,624
And today, they're worth
$87,000.
463
00:28:15,659 --> 00:28:17,696
[Johnny] Whoa! That's
a very good return.
464
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:18,973
That's pretty good.
465
00:28:20,353 --> 00:28:21,665
How are you?
466
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,253
[all talking]
467
00:28:24,323 --> 00:28:26,359
[ Tribute to Muddy
continues playing]
468
00:28:46,241 --> 00:28:47,829
♪
469
00:28:50,694 --> 00:28:51,971
Is it like
it used to be?
470
00:28:52,661 --> 00:28:53,801
No.
471
00:28:55,147 --> 00:28:56,217
No, it's not.
472
00:28:56,251 --> 00:28:58,944
It looks like one of those
roped off communities now.
473
00:28:58,978 --> 00:29:01,256
This was always
nice for a job.
474
00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:04,190
That's your house?
475
00:29:04,225 --> 00:29:05,260
-Wow.
-Where?
476
00:29:05,295 --> 00:29:08,056
Right there.
The porch with
the swing still on it.
477
00:29:08,091 --> 00:29:10,024
-Oh, it does look different.
-I'll knock on the door.
Hold on.
478
00:29:10,058 --> 00:29:12,785
No. I don't
wanna go in.
479
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:16,133
[Johnny] That looks definitely
different. I wouldn't
even recognize it.
480
00:29:16,168 --> 00:29:17,721
[man] What color
did it use to be?
481
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:18,964
[Johnny] White.
The color was white first.
482
00:29:18,998 --> 00:29:20,897
Almost makes me
wanna cry.
483
00:29:20,931 --> 00:29:23,382
Did it seem a lot
to ask I don't wanna
do it.
484
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:26,005
It's very sad.
485
00:29:26,868 --> 00:29:28,352
[women talking]
486
00:29:28,387 --> 00:29:29,802
[dog barking]
487
00:29:34,393 --> 00:29:38,017
I spent all my whole
first part of my life here.
488
00:29:38,052 --> 00:29:40,019
It don't even
look the same.
489
00:29:40,054 --> 00:29:43,195
Yeah, the fence is not up
anymore, it's all open.
490
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,922
[dog barking]
491
00:29:49,615 --> 00:29:52,998
The owner wants
to say hi to you.
She's been dying to meet you.
492
00:29:53,032 --> 00:29:54,862
-She's coming right over here.
-Okay, sure.
493
00:29:56,484 --> 00:29:58,279
Seems like a nice lady.
494
00:29:58,313 --> 00:30:00,212
-Hi, how are you?
-Hey, how're you doing?
495
00:30:00,246 --> 00:30:02,490
-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you too.
496
00:30:02,524 --> 00:30:04,043
Nice to meet you.
497
00:30:04,078 --> 00:30:05,976
I mean, you are more
than welcome if you'd like
to come in.
498
00:30:06,011 --> 00:30:07,391
I think it'll be too sad.
499
00:30:07,426 --> 00:30:10,636
You think it would?
I totally understand.
500
00:30:10,670 --> 00:30:12,362
-I just can't...
-Aww.
501
00:30:12,396 --> 00:30:14,364
Well, thank you
for offering
to let me in.
502
00:30:14,398 --> 00:30:17,332
No problem.
I am really just
thrilled to meet you.
503
00:30:17,367 --> 00:30:19,852
I have two kids.
I have a 12-year old son,
504
00:30:19,887 --> 00:30:21,509
and a 9-year old daughter,
505
00:30:21,543 --> 00:30:25,547
and we've got a game room,
and things that
we have upstairs,
506
00:30:25,582 --> 00:30:27,618
-And, but we...
-That's where we used
to practice.
507
00:30:27,653 --> 00:30:30,587
That's all where
your music was, and we said
if these walls could talk,
508
00:30:30,621 --> 00:30:36,041
what they could tell us
about you and your brother,
and all the music.
509
00:30:36,075 --> 00:30:38,837
-So...
-There's been some great times
in that house.
510
00:30:38,871 --> 00:30:42,875
Well, I am just thrilled
to meet you, and I would
love to get a picture.
511
00:30:42,910 --> 00:30:45,533
-Sure.
-Is it okay if I went in
to get my camera?
512
00:30:45,567 --> 00:30:47,466
Turn around.
513
00:30:50,469 --> 00:30:53,334
I'm just so excited.
I can't wait to tell
my husband.
514
00:30:53,368 --> 00:30:54,853
Look over here, Johnny.
515
00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:56,268
Yeah!
516
00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:00,168
Perfect.
517
00:31:02,412 --> 00:31:05,484
It was nice
meeting everybody.
Thank you.
518
00:31:11,939 --> 00:31:16,081
[Johnny] Oh, that was so sad,
I hated it.
I fucking hated it.
519
00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:18,048
Well, you know...
520
00:31:20,464 --> 00:31:23,019
Oh, that was so sad.
521
00:31:23,053 --> 00:31:24,744
You didn't even
go inside.
522
00:31:24,779 --> 00:31:26,677
No, it was so sad
just looking at it.
523
00:31:26,712 --> 00:31:29,611
Hey, but it's nice to know
there are some nice people
living there.
524
00:31:29,646 --> 00:31:31,234
Oh, yeah.
That's nice.
525
00:31:31,268 --> 00:31:33,753
At least
they like it there.
526
00:31:33,788 --> 00:31:36,273
Made me wanna cry.
I almost did cry.
527
00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:38,206
That's okay.
528
00:31:39,621 --> 00:31:41,209
Sometimes that helps.
529
00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:45,869
-What high school
did you go to?
-Beaumont High.
530
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,147
-Central High?
-It's called Central High now.
531
00:31:48,182 --> 00:31:49,942
It's not even Beaumont
High School anymore?
532
00:31:49,977 --> 00:31:51,530
It's called Central High.
533
00:31:51,564 --> 00:31:53,118
Weird.
534
00:31:53,152 --> 00:31:56,155
We had assembly there.
I sang Cherry Pie.
535
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:58,330
I sang, "Gimme, gimme,
gimme some, I want some
cherry pie."
536
00:31:58,364 --> 00:32:00,953
and they pulled
the curtain.
537
00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:02,196
[laughter]
538
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:04,405
They pulled the
curtain on us.
[laughing]
539
00:32:05,785 --> 00:32:08,271
[ Rock and Rollplaying]
540
00:32:29,361 --> 00:32:30,741
♪
541
00:32:51,176 --> 00:32:52,625
♪
542
00:33:09,332 --> 00:33:11,506
[Johnny] I think it was
the December of '68,
543
00:33:11,541 --> 00:33:13,474
the Rolling Stone article
came out.
544
00:33:13,508 --> 00:33:17,236
And all of a sudden,
everything just
completely changed.
545
00:33:17,271 --> 00:33:20,274
I felt I must have read it
a thousand times.
546
00:33:26,556 --> 00:33:29,524
Everyone had been making
about 50 bucks a week
at that time.
547
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:35,047
And I'd been making,
like $150, $200 a week,
playing in night clubs.
548
00:33:35,082 --> 00:33:36,600
But when we started
doing the blues thing,
549
00:33:36,635 --> 00:33:38,637
we couldn't make
nearly as much money at it.
550
00:33:38,671 --> 00:33:41,157
[Tommy] Uncle John and I
were sleeping on floors,
551
00:33:41,191 --> 00:33:43,124
and we weren't making
any money at all.
552
00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:46,714
I remember Uncle John and I
used to go down to the
fried chicken place,
553
00:33:46,748 --> 00:33:49,061
and get the fried batter.
554
00:33:49,096 --> 00:33:51,926
They put it in paper bags
for us.
555
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,824
And we'd take that home
and eat it.
556
00:33:53,859 --> 00:33:55,309
That's all we had.
557
00:33:55,343 --> 00:33:58,139
The article came out,
and everything
completely changed.
558
00:33:58,174 --> 00:34:00,866
People were calling me
from both coasts,
559
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:02,488
Steve Paul called me
from New York,
560
00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:04,352
and wanted to come down
and meet me.
561
00:34:04,939 --> 00:34:06,458
And I said,"Sure."
562
00:34:06,492 --> 00:34:09,771
Electric wanted us,
Atlantic wanted us,
Colombia wanted us.
563
00:34:09,806 --> 00:34:12,602
Steve just decided that
Colombia would be
the best deal.
564
00:34:12,636 --> 00:34:16,295
[Clive] I would say that
Johnny got a real good deal,
565
00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:20,575
higher than the norm at that time, without question.
566
00:34:20,610 --> 00:34:25,235
Definitely believed from me
that he would not be
a one-hit wonder.
567
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:27,375
There was no hits
to speak of.
568
00:34:27,410 --> 00:34:32,380
The hit... The criterion
of hits was not applicable
in this case.
569
00:34:32,415 --> 00:34:37,385
What we had here
was a dazzling virtuoso
of guitars,
570
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:39,732
with a unique story
to tell.
571
00:34:39,767 --> 00:34:41,493
Certainly a unique look.
572
00:34:41,527 --> 00:34:44,599
I was very proud,
I remember,
to sign Johnny.
573
00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:48,707
He said it was
the biggest deal
of that point,
574
00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:50,088
that anybody had.
575
00:34:50,122 --> 00:34:51,848
I hated to be publicized
in that,
576
00:34:51,882 --> 00:34:54,713
'cause it just put
more pressure on me
to sell records.
577
00:34:54,747 --> 00:34:58,682
Uncle John and I
stuffed everything
in a foot locker.
578
00:34:59,649 --> 00:35:01,133
Everything we owned.
579
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:03,101
And moved to New York.
580
00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:06,863
One day we were sleeping on the floors, the next day, we were in this gigantic house
581
00:35:06,897 --> 00:35:10,315
in upstate New York.
But it was literally
overnight.
582
00:35:10,349 --> 00:35:11,730
[interviewer] Did you ever
get a chance to meet
583
00:35:11,764 --> 00:35:13,594
those writers
of the article, afterwards?
584
00:35:13,628 --> 00:35:16,976
You know, I don't even know
if I met Larry or not.
I hope I did.
585
00:35:17,011 --> 00:35:19,117
I hope I thanked him
for it.
586
00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:20,670
[interviewer] Feel like you
owe him a drink.
587
00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:23,293
I owe him a case.
588
00:35:25,053 --> 00:35:26,779
[ Mean Town Bluesplaying]
589
00:35:46,074 --> 00:35:47,766
♪
590
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:52,840
[Edgar] When Johnny
became famous,
591
00:35:52,874 --> 00:35:57,707
although we had spent
virtually our whole lives
preparing ourselves,
592
00:35:57,741 --> 00:36:01,469
it still seemed that
it had happened
almost instantaneously.
593
00:36:01,504 --> 00:36:03,540
[ Mean Town Blues
continues playing]
594
00:36:03,575 --> 00:36:05,508
[Edgar] Had it not
been for Johnny,
595
00:36:05,542 --> 00:36:09,270
I would probably have been
either a teacher,
596
00:36:09,305 --> 00:36:11,307
I might have been
a scientist.
597
00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:15,242
It was really Woodstock
that changed my life.
598
00:36:15,276 --> 00:36:20,971
And of course, I wouldn't
have been there,
had it not been for Johnny.
599
00:36:21,006 --> 00:36:26,218
[Johnny] Woodstock really
was a good show, but it was
all muddy and nasty.
600
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:28,220
Nobody knew
who was going on when.
601
00:36:28,255 --> 00:36:31,085
I went to sleep
on a bag of garbage.
602
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:34,192
And I got up
at about midnight
to see what was going on,
603
00:36:34,226 --> 00:36:37,022
and somebody said,
"Well, you guys
are all here, play."
604
00:36:37,056 --> 00:36:38,334
I had just woken up.
605
00:36:38,368 --> 00:36:40,646
I'm surprised it was
as good as it was.
606
00:36:40,681 --> 00:36:42,476
[ Mean Town Blues
continues playing]
607
00:36:53,452 --> 00:36:57,180
It was still on of
the coolest things
I've ever done.
608
00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:59,009
This is how we
fatten up Johnny.
609
00:36:59,044 --> 00:37:02,254
The reason being,
when they don't serve
the gigantic croissants
610
00:37:02,289 --> 00:37:05,740
that we used to get,
trying to get some meat
on Johnny's bones,
611
00:37:05,775 --> 00:37:09,192
we have to take these
smaller croissants.
612
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,746
Breaking off the left side
of one croissant,
613
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:14,301
shoving the...
614
00:37:14,335 --> 00:37:17,683
right side of one croissant.
Shoving the left side
of the other croissant,
615
00:37:17,718 --> 00:37:21,342
into the broken piece
of croissant, creating
one giant croissant
616
00:37:22,274 --> 00:37:23,620
which he then consumes.
617
00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:26,036
Johnny only eats
one thing at once.
618
00:37:26,071 --> 00:37:29,523
So, when you connect the two,
you have a bigger croissant.
619
00:37:29,557 --> 00:37:32,008
Meaning more weight gain
for Johnny.
620
00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:35,460
And a healthier Johnny
all around.
621
00:37:35,494 --> 00:37:37,324
[ WKRP in Cincinnati
theme song playing]
622
00:37:38,635 --> 00:37:39,705
Sing it!
623
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:42,881
♪ Wondered whatever
Became of me ♪
624
00:37:45,124 --> 00:37:47,575
♪ The air in Cincinnati
625
00:37:49,681 --> 00:37:51,027
♪ WKRP
626
00:37:53,063 --> 00:37:55,756
[singing along]
627
00:38:16,501 --> 00:38:18,951
[Nick] Since the days
when you were a kid
628
00:38:18,986 --> 00:38:20,367
in Beaumont,
629
00:38:20,401 --> 00:38:23,887
did you ever imagine that
loving the music
that you love,
630
00:38:23,922 --> 00:38:26,752
playing the guitar, and singing,
that would carry you out
into this world-
631
00:38:26,787 --> 00:38:29,168
-Oh, I was always
almost sure it would.
-Really?
632
00:38:29,203 --> 00:38:30,998
I was sure
I was gonna
be successful.
633
00:38:31,032 --> 00:38:31,964
You had a lot
of confidence.
634
00:38:31,999 --> 00:38:33,518
Yes, I did.
I always did.
635
00:38:33,552 --> 00:38:38,005
And that was in a tough town,
where you were made fun of,
and had a hard time.
636
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:39,420
And you had
that confidence?
637
00:38:39,455 --> 00:38:40,939
It made me try harder.
638
00:38:40,973 --> 00:38:42,181
Yeah.
639
00:38:42,216 --> 00:38:43,838
It was a good thing.
640
00:38:43,873 --> 00:38:47,255
Made me try harder.
I just wanted to show
people I could make it.
641
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:49,396
In the time that
you were using heroin,
642
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:51,467
did it affect
your music skills?
643
00:38:51,501 --> 00:38:54,504
No, I wasn't as good.
644
00:38:54,539 --> 00:38:56,541
First, I thought
I was just using it,
645
00:38:56,575 --> 00:38:58,232
but I realized
I was addicted.
646
00:38:58,266 --> 00:38:59,785
I couldn't function
without it.
647
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:01,062
I wanted to stop.
648
00:39:01,649 --> 00:39:02,788
Real bad.
649
00:39:03,996 --> 00:39:05,791
I put myself
in rehab.
650
00:39:05,826 --> 00:39:07,034
Here in New Orleans.
651
00:39:08,276 --> 00:39:10,175
What made you
able to do that?
652
00:39:10,209 --> 00:39:13,281
How could you do that,
how did you have the strength
to do that?
653
00:39:13,316 --> 00:39:14,524
I would have died
if I hadn't.
654
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,871
-And you knew that?
-I knew that.
655
00:39:16,906 --> 00:39:18,942
Some people can keep
using it for years.
656
00:39:18,977 --> 00:39:22,429
Dr. John did,
Ray Charles did.
I couldn't.
657
00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:24,707
I don't think Dr. John
would advocate it now, though.
658
00:39:24,741 --> 00:39:28,124
No, he wouldn't.
He did it for 35 years,
though.
659
00:39:28,158 --> 00:39:32,231
It didn't seem to affect
his creativity.
It affected mine.
660
00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:34,613
[interviewer]
Do you remember
the first time you tried it?
661
00:39:34,648 --> 00:39:35,718
Yeah.
662
00:39:35,752 --> 00:39:40,516
Yeah, I first got it
at a press, uh,
663
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:42,380
press party
in Los Angeles.
664
00:39:42,414 --> 00:39:46,004
This guy said,
"Do you do drugs?"
and I said,"Sure."
665
00:39:46,038 --> 00:39:48,627
"You ever done heroin?"
I said,"No, I haven't."
666
00:39:48,662 --> 00:39:54,426
He said "Take some of this."
It was the only time anybody
gave me any free heroin.
667
00:39:54,461 --> 00:39:57,878
I kept it
three or four months.
668
00:39:57,912 --> 00:40:00,121
Then, we were supposed
to do a show
in New Jersey.
669
00:40:00,156 --> 00:40:03,677
I couldn't...
didn't get there. We were
all kinds of depressed.
670
00:40:03,711 --> 00:40:07,163
And I said,
"Seems like a good time
to try that heroin."
671
00:40:07,197 --> 00:40:08,647
We all sniffed it.
672
00:40:10,062 --> 00:40:12,271
I couldn't believe it.
673
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,342
You just don't worry
about anything.
674
00:40:14,377 --> 00:40:16,034
Nothing bothers you.
675
00:40:18,381 --> 00:40:20,521
Well, I really thought
I could just use it,
676
00:40:20,556 --> 00:40:23,593
and just do it
when I want to,
and not get addicted.
677
00:40:23,628 --> 00:40:27,252
Thought only stupid people
get addicted.
678
00:40:27,286 --> 00:40:30,462
And I thought
I was cool enough
to be able to just use it.
679
00:40:31,567 --> 00:40:32,809
[interviewer]
Now what do we do?
680
00:40:32,844 --> 00:40:34,742
[Johnny] Well,
I hope we're gonna drink.
681
00:40:34,777 --> 00:40:36,710
What do you need?
Stoli?
682
00:40:39,437 --> 00:40:41,369
I'll have four shots
on the rocks.
683
00:40:41,404 --> 00:40:42,716
Four shots
on the rocks.
684
00:40:44,303 --> 00:40:45,512
Four shots
on the rocks.
685
00:40:49,136 --> 00:40:50,413
[yelling]
686
00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:52,242
[ Leland Mississippi Blues
playing]
687
00:41:12,711 --> 00:41:13,919
♪
688
00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:36,217
♪
689
00:41:38,116 --> 00:41:39,842
[laughing]
690
00:41:41,257 --> 00:41:43,017
I don't like it.
691
00:41:43,052 --> 00:41:44,640
I don't like it.
692
00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:48,989
-[mumbling]
-What?
693
00:41:50,611 --> 00:41:52,130
What the hell's
going on?
694
00:41:53,407 --> 00:41:54,615
[laughing]
695
00:42:03,313 --> 00:42:04,383
Where are you going?
696
00:42:04,418 --> 00:42:05,868
One step down.
697
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,389
[laughing]
698
00:42:10,424 --> 00:42:11,563
Now, step up.
699
00:42:12,219 --> 00:42:13,807
Step up.
700
00:42:13,841 --> 00:42:14,911
[laughing]
701
00:42:16,603 --> 00:42:18,018
Oh, good God.
702
00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:20,054
Oh, good God!
703
00:42:20,676 --> 00:42:22,574
Oh, good God!
704
00:42:22,609 --> 00:42:23,989
[laughing]
705
00:42:25,612 --> 00:42:27,061
I'm so drunk.
706
00:42:27,924 --> 00:42:30,686
Oh, fuck, I'm really drunk.
707
00:42:31,272 --> 00:42:33,205
I'm really drunk.
708
00:42:33,965 --> 00:42:35,276
Oh, shit.
709
00:42:37,037 --> 00:42:38,348
I wanna go home.
710
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:41,041
I really wanna go home.
711
00:42:41,628 --> 00:42:43,250
I wanna go home.
712
00:42:43,284 --> 00:42:44,389
[laughing]
713
00:42:44,423 --> 00:42:46,218
I really wanna go home.
714
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,843
I'm so fucked up.
715
00:42:49,877 --> 00:42:51,154
[laughing]
716
00:42:51,189 --> 00:42:52,259
Oh, I'm really...
717
00:42:52,293 --> 00:42:54,917
[Paul] Wait a minute.
Who wanted to go drinking?
718
00:42:54,951 --> 00:42:56,159
I did.
719
00:42:56,194 --> 00:42:57,471
[Paul] Well, there we are!
720
00:42:57,505 --> 00:42:58,610
I did.
721
00:42:58,645 --> 00:43:00,716
♪ I just wanna go home
722
00:43:00,750 --> 00:43:03,028
♪ I'm tired and I want
To go to bed ♪
723
00:43:03,063 --> 00:43:05,997
♪ I had a little drink
About an hour ago ♪
724
00:43:06,031 --> 00:43:08,378
♪ And it went
Right to my head ♪
725
00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:12,520
♪ Everywhere that I roam
Over land or sea or foam ♪
726
00:43:12,555 --> 00:43:17,491
♪ You can always hear me Singing this song God, I wanna go home ♪
727
00:43:17,525 --> 00:43:18,768
One more time!
728
00:43:18,803 --> 00:43:20,943
♪ I wanna go home!
729
00:43:20,977 --> 00:43:23,808
♪ I'm tired and I want
To go to bed ♪
730
00:43:23,842 --> 00:43:26,431
♪ I had a little drink
About an hour ago ♪
731
00:43:26,465 --> 00:43:28,502
♪ And it went
Right to my head ♪
732
00:43:28,536 --> 00:43:32,713
♪ No matter where I go
Over land or sea or foam ♪
733
00:43:32,748 --> 00:43:37,269
♪ You can always hear me
Singing this song
God, I just wanna go home ♪
734
00:43:43,068 --> 00:43:44,380
[TV blaring]
735
00:43:48,177 --> 00:43:52,319
[Susan] I was a hippie
down in Miami,
and I met a girl, Barbara,
736
00:43:52,353 --> 00:43:54,873
who knew that
I'm gonna go up,
back up
737
00:43:54,908 --> 00:43:56,772
to New York and
marry Edgar Winter, and
738
00:43:56,806 --> 00:43:58,497
"I'll give you a call
when we come down."
739
00:43:58,532 --> 00:44:00,223
So, a year later,
she called me.
740
00:44:00,258 --> 00:44:03,019
And Edgar and Johnny
were playing in town.
741
00:44:03,054 --> 00:44:05,608
Over the couple
of years, I...
742
00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,645
Went to a few shows
and some.
743
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,717
Then I came up
to New York and started
working for Steve Paul.
744
00:44:10,751 --> 00:44:13,202
And then he...
came up...
745
00:44:13,236 --> 00:44:15,549
and that's...
We've been together
ever since.
746
00:44:15,583 --> 00:44:18,034
[interviewer] You weren't
doing heroin at that point,
were you?
747
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:19,518
Uh, yeah.
748
00:44:19,553 --> 00:44:21,762
[interviewer] Did you know
what you were
getting yourself into?
749
00:44:21,797 --> 00:44:23,108
Not really, no.
750
00:44:23,143 --> 00:44:25,041
I wanted to be, kind of,
on the same plane he was.
751
00:44:25,076 --> 00:44:27,526
So if he was doing something,
I wanted to do it too.
752
00:44:27,561 --> 00:44:29,287
But it did get overwhelming,
and I can...
753
00:44:29,321 --> 00:44:32,704
I bet a few times, go to
the bath and cry my eyes out
because it was too much,
754
00:44:32,739 --> 00:44:34,326
and I didn't wanna do it...
755
00:44:34,361 --> 00:44:36,466
[interviewer] What else
was there besides
heroin and drinking?
756
00:44:36,501 --> 00:44:38,537
Pot and cocaine,
I guess.
757
00:44:38,572 --> 00:44:41,264
Downs. Seconals.
758
00:44:41,299 --> 00:44:43,025
I don't remember doing
that much with you.
759
00:44:43,059 --> 00:44:45,924
I did plenty of Seconals.
Quaaludes.
760
00:44:46,856 --> 00:44:48,340
I did a lot of that.
761
00:44:48,375 --> 00:44:49,341
I loved downers.
762
00:44:49,376 --> 00:44:52,517
It was like drinking
without having
to drink.
763
00:44:52,551 --> 00:44:57,798
We were doing so much coke,
this guy says, "You guys
must know you're gonna die."
764
00:44:57,833 --> 00:44:59,973
"You're gonna die,
if you keep doing this."
765
00:45:00,007 --> 00:45:03,666
Stop, he said
you know you're doing too much.
766
00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:05,703
He just wasn't
used to us.
767
00:45:11,329 --> 00:45:13,987
[Tommy] Back then,
we got high all the time.
768
00:45:14,021 --> 00:45:16,437
I used to do
a lot of LSD,
769
00:45:16,472 --> 00:45:20,648
speed, and downers,
and just about anything
we can think of.
770
00:45:20,683 --> 00:45:22,547
As a band...
771
00:45:22,581 --> 00:45:25,653
Like, the goal was
to ingest as many
772
00:45:25,688 --> 00:45:28,933
different... substances
as possible.
773
00:45:28,967 --> 00:45:33,040
And then see
if we could still
get up there and play.
774
00:45:33,075 --> 00:45:37,769
I remember playing
at the Spectrum, Philadelphia,
775
00:45:37,804 --> 00:45:40,496
and all three of us
tripped on acid.
776
00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:44,017
We got so high,
it didn't sound
like music anymore.
777
00:45:44,051 --> 00:45:45,466
It sounded like...
[humming]
778
00:45:45,501 --> 00:45:46,985
These sounds.
779
00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:50,748
And finally when
the end of the show happened,
780
00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:54,648
we got off stage
and started walking
right up the aisle, you know,
781
00:45:54,682 --> 00:45:56,995
with the people,
instead of backstage.
782
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:59,135
We just took off,
and...
783
00:45:59,170 --> 00:46:03,346
Crew guys had to come,
run out there and get us
and turn us around.
784
00:46:03,381 --> 00:46:04,969
We were the three stooges.
785
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,134
The Scene was the Club, Steve Pauls, our manager at that time...
786
00:46:32,168 --> 00:46:35,482
It was his club.
I remember the first night
I walked in there.
787
00:46:35,516 --> 00:46:39,866
Jimi Hendrix was there,
John Bonham,
Jerry Lee Lewis was there.
788
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:41,937
Total asshole.
789
00:46:41,971 --> 00:46:44,525
Johnny, you know,
Johnny and myself,
we were playing.
790
00:46:45,699 --> 00:46:47,218
Somebody tapped me
on the shoulder.
791
00:46:47,252 --> 00:46:49,634
I turned around
and it was Jimi Hendrix.
792
00:46:49,668 --> 00:46:52,326
He asked if he
could play my bass.
793
00:46:52,361 --> 00:46:56,261
And I just took it off
right in the middle of a song,
and handed it to him.
794
00:47:04,545 --> 00:47:06,168
[interviewer]
What would be
the first moment
795
00:47:06,202 --> 00:47:08,480
where you really felt like
this is where you wanted to be?
796
00:47:08,515 --> 00:47:13,278
Making the first record
was great 'cause it turned out
just the way I wanted it to.
797
00:47:13,313 --> 00:47:15,280
That's still one
of my favorite records.
798
00:47:15,315 --> 00:47:18,594
I knew this is exactly
what I want to be doing.
799
00:47:18,628 --> 00:47:21,217
[ I'm Yours and I'm Hers
playing]
800
00:47:39,339 --> 00:47:40,996
♪
801
00:48:01,223 --> 00:48:02,603
♪
802
00:48:02,638 --> 00:48:04,364
[interviewer] Didn't you meet
Salvador Dali?
803
00:48:04,398 --> 00:48:07,298
[Johnny] Yeah, he told me
I should put a mike
up my ass,
804
00:48:07,332 --> 00:48:10,266
and broadcast
my inner workings.
805
00:48:10,853 --> 00:48:12,475
[laughing]
806
00:48:12,510 --> 00:48:14,098
He was a very
strange guy.
807
00:48:14,132 --> 00:48:16,479
[interviewer] When did
Janis Joplin come
into your life?
808
00:48:16,514 --> 00:48:20,345
[Johnny] We played
a show in Florida
and I was on acid.
809
00:48:20,380 --> 00:48:23,693
And she got me to drink
Southern Comfort.
810
00:48:23,728 --> 00:48:28,664
And it tasted like Kool-Aid,
it wasn't strong at all.
811
00:48:28,698 --> 00:48:31,529
And I got really sick
and we were going back
in a helicopter
812
00:48:31,563 --> 00:48:34,601
after this show,
and I threw up
all over her.
813
00:48:34,635 --> 00:48:37,742
I don't think she even
remembered it. She was
so drunk too.
814
00:48:37,776 --> 00:48:40,469
I didn't even have
a Kleenex to wipe
the vomit off.
815
00:48:40,503 --> 00:48:42,471
[ I'm Yours and I'm Hers
continues playing]
816
00:48:45,025 --> 00:48:48,580
[Johnny] All those people
died around the same time.
Jimi Hendrix, her,
817
00:48:49,098 --> 00:48:50,306
Jim Morrison.
818
00:48:50,341 --> 00:48:51,687
[interviewer] What did
that tell you?
819
00:48:51,721 --> 00:48:54,759
That it was scary.
I was wondering
if I was next.
820
00:48:54,793 --> 00:48:56,450
All the J's.
821
00:48:56,485 --> 00:48:59,419
Jim, Janice, Jimi.
822
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:02,422
I thought I'm Johnny,
I'm next to die here.
823
00:49:02,456 --> 00:49:04,217
[interviewer] How'd you manage
to make it through that?
824
00:49:04,251 --> 00:49:06,944
Just lucky.
Just very lucky.
825
00:49:07,703 --> 00:49:09,325
I'm so lucky
to control it.
826
00:49:11,327 --> 00:49:14,710
Didn't know I could
control heroin.
827
00:49:14,744 --> 00:49:19,335
I was over
at Austin once,
and...
828
00:49:19,370 --> 00:49:24,340
Usually I let somebody else
shoot up first to see
what it did to them.
829
00:49:24,375 --> 00:49:26,411
But I really
wanted to get high then.
830
00:49:26,446 --> 00:49:30,174
I overdosed. They threw me
in a cold tub of water.
831
00:49:31,416 --> 00:49:35,006
I was turning blue.
Ed was hitting me,
832
00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:36,732
slapping me,
trying to wake me up.
833
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:40,736
That's the only time
I overdosed.
834
00:49:42,082 --> 00:49:44,326
But he was afraid
I was gonna die.
835
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,261
I didn't even know
that I was...
all messed up.
836
00:49:49,124 --> 00:49:50,884
When I woke up,
I was just pissed off
837
00:49:50,918 --> 00:49:53,542
'cause it got
my velvet shirt wet.
838
00:49:53,576 --> 00:49:57,270
I said I was okay, and he said,
"No, you weren't okay, man.
You were gonna die."
839
00:49:58,788 --> 00:50:00,238
And that kinda scared me.
840
00:50:04,070 --> 00:50:05,347
[laughter]
841
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:14,528
That's irritating
as hell.
842
00:50:15,598 --> 00:50:16,772
Quit doing that shit.
843
00:50:16,806 --> 00:50:19,188
-No, it's fun.
-It's not fun.
844
00:50:26,333 --> 00:50:28,335
All right, come on
right over here.
845
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:37,793
[speaking Cantonese]
846
00:50:42,832 --> 00:50:44,075
I wanna get this.
847
00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:45,042
Thumbs up.
848
00:50:45,076 --> 00:50:46,422
Thumbs up, guys.
849
00:50:47,354 --> 00:50:51,048
[ Who Do You Loveplaying]
850
00:51:05,545 --> 00:51:07,271
♪
851
00:51:16,797 --> 00:51:18,868
[Johnny]
How's the audience
doing out there?
852
00:51:21,147 --> 00:51:23,183
Well, that's not going
to be no fun to play.
853
00:51:26,635 --> 00:51:28,499
Oh, ZZ Top played
for one person.
854
00:51:28,533 --> 00:51:32,227
-There you go.
-If they can play to one person,
I can play to two rows.
855
00:51:34,021 --> 00:51:36,955
It happens all too often,
where somebody goes
through their life,
856
00:51:36,990 --> 00:51:40,614
and it's just...
because they're always there,
it's just inevitable.
857
00:51:40,649 --> 00:51:43,893
They're always around,
so you wait to see them
next year.
858
00:51:43,928 --> 00:51:45,930
You put it off, and...
859
00:51:45,964 --> 00:51:48,864
And then they're gone.
And then everyone
holds them up,
860
00:51:48,898 --> 00:51:51,591
and they say,"Hero."
And you're like, "You know,
they were a hero,
861
00:51:51,625 --> 00:51:55,698
"one year ago today,
when they were playing
in a club down the street."
862
00:51:55,733 --> 00:51:56,941
All right, guys,
let's go.
863
00:51:56,975 --> 00:51:58,598
Let's go.
No shit.
864
00:51:58,632 --> 00:52:01,048
[Derek] I hear people
now like, "B.B. talks
a lot on stage."
865
00:52:01,083 --> 00:52:03,775
I was like, "I don't
give a shit. You go.
You pay your ticket,
866
00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:07,365
"and you cheer for him,
and shut the fuck up."
867
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:12,025
Yeah, it's B.B. King,
damn it.
868
00:52:12,059 --> 00:52:13,613
It's Johnny Winter.
869
00:52:13,647 --> 00:52:15,028
Go.
870
00:52:15,062 --> 00:52:16,305
[crowd cheering]
871
00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:18,204
Hello, Hong Kong!
872
00:52:18,238 --> 00:52:19,998
Are you ready?
873
00:52:20,033 --> 00:52:21,621
[crowd cheering]
874
00:52:23,001 --> 00:52:25,832
Ladies and gentlemen,
make some noise
875
00:52:25,866 --> 00:52:28,179
for Johnny Winter!
876
00:52:28,214 --> 00:52:30,250
[ Mojo Boogieplaying]
877
00:52:46,473 --> 00:52:48,372
♪
878
00:53:08,219 --> 00:53:09,910
Yeah, Muddy Waters.
879
00:53:11,153 --> 00:53:13,259
[crowd cheering]
880
00:53:16,779 --> 00:53:18,678
[crowd continues cheering]
881
00:53:39,975 --> 00:53:41,839
One... Two...
882
00:53:41,873 --> 00:53:44,013
Two... Three... Four...
883
00:53:44,048 --> 00:53:46,430
[ Dust My Broomplaying]
884
00:53:58,304 --> 00:54:01,376
[Derek] When you see Johnny
with the Firebird,
when that guitar comes out,
885
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:03,274
it's like thinking of
Duane Allman's Goldtop,
886
00:54:03,309 --> 00:54:05,759
or Hendrix with
a certain guitar.
887
00:54:05,794 --> 00:54:07,554
It's iconic.
888
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:09,694
[ Dust My Broom
continues playing]
889
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,185
The way that guitar looks
and sounds, it's very much
his spirit, musically.
890
00:54:18,220 --> 00:54:22,328
It's just, kind of,
in your face, and it's nasty
in the most beautiful way.
891
00:54:40,311 --> 00:54:41,554
Thank you!
892
00:54:41,588 --> 00:54:43,349
So many people
got pissed off
893
00:54:43,383 --> 00:54:45,523
when they started rushing
the stage 'cause they couldn't
see anymore.
894
00:54:45,558 --> 00:54:47,353
No, but I still loved it.
895
00:54:47,387 --> 00:54:49,458
-Yeah, I know.
-It was very cool.
896
00:54:53,048 --> 00:54:57,432
Yeah, I didn't think
it was over until the very last
two, three songs there.
897
00:54:57,466 --> 00:55:00,987
They... I thought,
"Well, this ain't fun at all."
898
00:55:02,195 --> 00:55:03,921
-They finally went nuts.
-Yep.
899
00:55:04,991 --> 00:55:05,854
[Paul] That's great.
900
00:55:05,888 --> 00:55:07,718
How long before
we get out of here?
901
00:55:07,752 --> 00:55:08,753
[laughing]
902
00:55:08,788 --> 00:55:10,134
Oh, that's over.
903
00:55:10,168 --> 00:55:12,792
Now that we're done playing,
let's go home,
watch a movie.
904
00:55:14,034 --> 00:55:16,968
You may ask,
"What is the purpose
of music?"
905
00:55:17,003 --> 00:55:20,903
And I may answer,
"To turn people on
and make them happy."
906
00:55:20,938 --> 00:55:23,354
[ Prodigal Sonplaying]
907
00:55:32,121 --> 00:55:36,540
Steve thought that the blues
had been so big in the 60's,
he said if I didn't
908
00:55:36,574 --> 00:55:39,059
start doing more
rock and roll, then
909
00:55:39,991 --> 00:55:41,924
my career was gonna...
910
00:55:42,408 --> 00:55:44,375
maybe just end.
911
00:55:44,410 --> 00:55:46,481
And it wasn't really
what I wanted to do.
912
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:49,276
I didn't want to do
more rock and roll.
913
00:55:49,311 --> 00:55:51,865
But... I thought
he was probably right.
914
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,696
I still think
he's probably right, so...
915
00:55:54,730 --> 00:55:56,249
I decided to go ahead
and do it.
916
00:55:56,283 --> 00:55:59,563
And it really hurt me
because I loved Tommy and Ed.
They had...
917
00:56:00,529 --> 00:56:02,013
Helped me make it.
918
00:56:02,911 --> 00:56:05,189
But... uh...
919
00:56:05,223 --> 00:56:08,054
I was sad to go ahead
and do the thing
with the McCoys.
920
00:56:08,088 --> 00:56:10,608
[Tommy] They were living
in a house, Upstate New York,
921
00:56:10,643 --> 00:56:12,679
I guess about 100 yards
from us.
922
00:56:12,714 --> 00:56:14,509
We got to be friends
with them.
923
00:56:14,543 --> 00:56:16,752
One day we went for rehearsal,
you know,
924
00:56:16,787 --> 00:56:19,134
and we couldn't come up
with any material.
925
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:25,209
And Johnny started
kinda freaking out.
926
00:56:25,243 --> 00:56:28,971
And the McCoys,
they had material.
927
00:56:29,006 --> 00:56:31,422
And it gradually happened,
you know, he...
928
00:56:31,457 --> 00:56:33,597
He said he was gonna
stick with them.
929
00:56:33,631 --> 00:56:35,771
♪
930
00:56:48,715 --> 00:56:52,581
[Johnny] God, I really felt
like I was selling out.
931
00:56:52,616 --> 00:56:55,791
I started doing a lot
of heroin, I didn't
really like it.
932
00:56:55,826 --> 00:56:58,691
Didn't like
what I was doing.
933
00:56:58,725 --> 00:57:02,833
Started doing way more drugs
than I should have been doing.
934
00:57:04,455 --> 00:57:07,078
That really...
Really messed me up.
935
00:57:08,183 --> 00:57:09,702
[Johnny] Oh, are we on yet?
936
00:57:09,736 --> 00:57:11,738
-Yeah, we're on, yeah.
-We're on?
937
00:57:11,773 --> 00:57:13,740
-We're on TV?
-Here. Yeah.
938
00:57:13,775 --> 00:57:16,398
-I mean, we're really good?
-Yeah.
939
00:57:16,433 --> 00:57:17,503
Oh, no.
940
00:57:17,537 --> 00:57:19,194
I know you like
playing with the new band.
941
00:57:19,228 --> 00:57:21,507
What do you think
is one of the big changes
that you've noticed
942
00:57:21,541 --> 00:57:24,544
since the old band.
You've been with that one
for about two years?
943
00:57:24,579 --> 00:57:27,478
For about two years. Right.
I love playing in the new band.
944
00:57:27,513 --> 00:57:29,963
-You liked the old band too.
-I loved it.
945
00:57:29,998 --> 00:57:34,830
I love the old band,
and when it got
to be... not as cool,
946
00:57:34,865 --> 00:57:40,042
we got tired of doing it,
then almost immediately,
we decided to change.
947
00:57:40,077 --> 00:57:43,805
We were beginning to stagnate.
There was nowhere
we could go.
948
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:46,980
We played straight
and loose for two years,
949
00:57:47,015 --> 00:57:50,328
and I just... I wasn't
giving up blues,
950
00:57:50,363 --> 00:57:53,262
or selling out
or anything, I just wanted
to do some other thing.
951
00:57:53,297 --> 00:57:56,576
[Johnny] That was my biggest
selling record.
"Johnny Winter And- Live"
952
00:57:56,611 --> 00:57:58,509
That's the record
I liked the least.
953
00:57:58,544 --> 00:58:01,581
[Tommy] He sold
a lot of records
doing that.
954
00:58:01,616 --> 00:58:05,827
But he was becoming
more miserable.
955
00:58:05,861 --> 00:58:08,519
That's when he eventually
went back, playing blues.
956
00:58:08,554 --> 00:58:10,176
'Cause that's what
he loved.
957
00:58:10,210 --> 00:58:13,697
When I really got back
in the blues was when
I got to play with Muddy.
958
00:58:13,731 --> 00:58:18,874
I finally felt like
I was doing what I wanted to do
once I played with Muddy.
959
00:58:18,909 --> 00:58:21,498
[Mike] Together
for the first time
on a new album, you two.
960
00:58:21,532 --> 00:58:25,881
Yeah, not really for
the first time, but
the first time on this album.
961
00:58:25,916 --> 00:58:27,849
We've known each other
for years.
962
00:58:27,883 --> 00:58:29,575
And admired each other,
obviously.
963
00:58:29,609 --> 00:58:33,751
Well, Muddy has been
an idol of mine since
I have been...
964
00:58:33,786 --> 00:58:37,030
And I really admire him.
When I first heard him,
I said,
965
00:58:37,065 --> 00:58:39,101
"He's one of the greatest
blues player in the business."
966
00:58:39,136 --> 00:58:40,206
Oh, wow.
967
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,381
[Johnny] We made our
first record in 1977.
968
00:58:43,416 --> 00:58:44,624
[interviewer]
How'd that happen?
969
00:58:44,659 --> 00:58:46,419
[Johnny] His manager
called up my manager,
970
00:58:46,453 --> 00:58:50,527
and asked if I'd be willing
to play on and produce records
with Muddy,
971
00:58:50,561 --> 00:58:52,736
and I said I'd love
to do that.
972
00:58:52,770 --> 00:58:54,669
There's nothing
I'd rather do.
973
00:58:54,703 --> 00:58:56,463
It was a lot of fun.
974
00:58:56,498 --> 00:59:00,053
Muddy said,"This music
is so good, it makes
my pee-pee hard again."
975
00:59:00,088 --> 00:59:02,746
That's why we called
the record Hard Again.
976
00:59:05,196 --> 00:59:08,027
[Derek] I mean, those are
my favorite Muddy Waters
records as a kid.
977
00:59:08,061 --> 00:59:09,994
There was just
something about
978
00:59:10,029 --> 00:59:11,893
the sound and the way
they were recorded.
979
00:59:11,927 --> 00:59:14,171
I remember even when we started building our studio,
980
00:59:14,205 --> 00:59:15,931
those were the records
I had in my head.
981
00:59:15,966 --> 00:59:18,831
I was like...
It's still a goal for me
to try and make a record
982
00:59:18,865 --> 00:59:20,695
that sounds like that
or feels like that.
983
00:59:20,729 --> 00:59:23,663
Hearing him, on Mannish Boy
just went hollering
in the background...
984
00:59:23,698 --> 00:59:25,562
[laughing]
I felt, yeah...
985
00:59:25,596 --> 00:59:26,839
Woo!
986
00:59:26,873 --> 00:59:29,048
[ Mannish Boyplaying]
987
00:59:35,364 --> 00:59:38,471
[Joe] There's something
about the electricity going on
in the room,
988
00:59:38,505 --> 00:59:42,751
when they're playing,
that just naturally
comes to the surface.
989
00:59:42,786 --> 00:59:46,203
And that's one
of my touchdowns,
that record.
990
00:59:46,237 --> 00:59:50,138
[Derek] Johnny was that bridge. He was fully current at that time,
991
00:59:50,172 --> 00:59:52,174
but he fully knew
the history of it.
992
00:59:52,209 --> 00:59:54,625
And he was
the right age,
the right skill set,
993
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,352
the right knowledge,
the right humility.
994
00:59:57,386 --> 00:59:58,905
The right fearlessness.
995
00:59:58,940 --> 01:00:01,183
[ Mannish Boy
continues playing]
996
01:00:04,428 --> 01:00:08,570
It's still the most fun
I ever had playing music.
I just loved Muddy.
997
01:00:08,605 --> 01:00:10,607
Loved him.
Loved his music.
998
01:00:39,705 --> 01:00:41,776
[ Got My Mojo Workingplaying]
999
01:00:51,130 --> 01:00:54,443
[Johnny] It was just great.
I'll never forget it.
1000
01:00:54,478 --> 01:00:58,413
Damn, he should have lived
another 10 or 20 years.
1001
01:00:58,447 --> 01:01:00,691
[interviewer] Yeah.
Was that a big loss for you
when he passed?
1002
01:01:00,726 --> 01:01:03,487
I hated it.
It really hurt me.
1003
01:01:03,521 --> 01:01:06,145
We were extremely close.
1004
01:01:06,179 --> 01:01:09,320
I went over to his house,
couple of time, he...
1005
01:01:09,873 --> 01:01:11,702
made gumbo for me.
1006
01:01:13,566 --> 01:01:15,533
Called me his son.
1007
01:01:15,568 --> 01:01:17,156
Yeah, we were very close.
1008
01:01:19,883 --> 01:01:23,231
[ Got My Mojo Working
continues playing]
1009
01:01:41,421 --> 01:01:45,736
I remember somewhere
around '90 or '91,
1010
01:01:45,771 --> 01:01:51,155
we were all doing this
John Lee Hooker tribute concert
at Madison Square Garden.
1011
01:01:51,777 --> 01:01:53,157
And, uh...
1012
01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:57,058
There were a couple
of days' rehearsal.
1013
01:01:57,955 --> 01:02:01,718
And I remember...
uh...
1014
01:02:03,029 --> 01:02:04,928
Johnny was a little
out of it.
1015
01:02:04,962 --> 01:02:06,792
In the 90's,
he was still standing,
1016
01:02:06,826 --> 01:02:09,726
but he started
doing his wobbling thing
in place.
1017
01:02:16,422 --> 01:02:19,563
[Paul] And then, eventually,
he fell and broke his hip
the first time.
1018
01:02:19,597 --> 01:02:22,255
And then he was just
chair-ridden.
1019
01:02:22,290 --> 01:02:26,881
He was playing, but his voice
started getting
very nasally and very weak.
1020
01:02:26,915 --> 01:02:29,780
We went and saw him
at Antone's, and...
1021
01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:33,301
Kinda broke my heart,
you know, 'cause
1022
01:02:33,335 --> 01:02:35,337
he was just barely there.
1023
01:02:35,372 --> 01:02:39,514
And he was in...
such bad shape that...
1024
01:02:41,033 --> 01:02:42,931
You know, I was worried
he might die.
1025
01:02:42,966 --> 01:02:44,864
I just had
a lot of concern.
1026
01:02:46,314 --> 01:02:48,212
'Cause, you know,
I loved Johnny.
1027
01:02:48,247 --> 01:02:52,458
He's been my friend
for a long time.
1028
01:02:52,492 --> 01:02:55,012
[Johnny] 90's was
a bad decade for me.
1029
01:02:55,047 --> 01:02:57,049
I knew I wasn't
playing good.
1030
01:02:58,326 --> 01:03:00,017
That was embarrassing.
1031
01:03:00,052 --> 01:03:02,226
I was taking
antidepressants then.
1032
01:03:02,261 --> 01:03:04,677
That was more antidepressants
than methadone.
1033
01:03:04,711 --> 01:03:06,817
[interviewer] Okay,
can you tell me what that
would do to you?
1034
01:03:06,852 --> 01:03:08,923
It just puts you
to sleep.
1035
01:03:08,957 --> 01:03:11,373
I slept like 14 hours
a day.
1036
01:03:11,408 --> 01:03:13,790
You were out, just out of it.
You didn't know where you were,
1037
01:03:13,824 --> 01:03:15,826
I hardly even remember
those days.
1038
01:03:15,861 --> 01:03:18,864
I was taking it way too much
for way too long.
1039
01:03:18,898 --> 01:03:23,627
Johnny, I would say, was on,
through research, was on heroin
for two years, tops.
1040
01:03:23,661 --> 01:03:26,388
But methadone for like,
30, 35 years.
It's insane.
1041
01:03:26,423 --> 01:03:29,219
You're supposed to be
on that and off it,
or just do a low dosage.
1042
01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:31,083
When I first started
playing with Johnny,
1043
01:03:31,117 --> 01:03:33,050
Teddy Slatus
was his manager,
1044
01:03:33,085 --> 01:03:35,570
and I kinda knew Teddy
from back in the old days.
1045
01:03:35,604 --> 01:03:39,056
The Edgar days,
but we didn't realize
till we got to Johnny,
1046
01:03:39,091 --> 01:03:40,575
how bad this guy really was.
1047
01:03:40,609 --> 01:03:44,959
He manipulated Johnny
by keeping him...
medicated.
1048
01:03:44,993 --> 01:03:46,684
I guess that'll
be the word.
1049
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:50,378
He was enabling him,
making sure that if Johnny
asked a couple of questions,
1050
01:03:50,412 --> 01:03:53,036
'What's going on?"
"Where's the money?"
"What's going on..."
1051
01:03:53,070 --> 01:03:54,865
Teddy would make sure
he was medicated
1052
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:56,833
to the point
where he stopped
asking questions.
1053
01:03:56,867 --> 01:03:58,973
And he had been good
in the past.
1054
01:03:59,007 --> 01:04:02,459
But the last four, five years,
he was just horrible.
1055
01:04:02,493 --> 01:04:04,737
And Paul was working...
1056
01:04:04,771 --> 01:04:07,947
Everybody was telling me
how bad Teddy was.
1057
01:04:07,982 --> 01:04:09,155
I just didn't want
to believe it.
1058
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:11,330
Everybody knew he was
screwing things up.
1059
01:04:11,364 --> 01:04:15,196
His manager actually
wanted to manage me
as an artist.
1060
01:04:15,230 --> 01:04:17,508
And I was...
I was flattered,
1061
01:04:17,543 --> 01:04:20,235
but the same point...
time, I was saying,
1062
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:23,514
'What's wrong with Johnny?
I mean, you have Johnny Winter!"
1063
01:04:23,549 --> 01:04:26,966
And then, I'm looking,
and I'm listening to the voice,
and listening to the playing,
1064
01:04:27,001 --> 01:04:29,072
and I'm like,
"Something's wrong."
1065
01:04:29,106 --> 01:04:31,591
I kinda stepped forward,
I risked everything I had
1066
01:04:31,626 --> 01:04:35,630
to tell him,
while his other manager
was still alive,
1067
01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:38,288
"There's something
going on here,
and it's a mess."
1068
01:04:39,945 --> 01:04:41,360
So he said,
"Will you manage me?"
1069
01:04:41,394 --> 01:04:44,052
Suddenly I realized
they were right.
1070
01:04:44,604 --> 01:04:46,503
And I just, uh...
1071
01:04:46,537 --> 01:04:49,023
wrote Teddy a letter
and said, "You're fired."
1072
01:04:49,057 --> 01:04:51,473
Then I learned,
in a couple of months
that he was dead.
1073
01:04:53,096 --> 01:04:55,926
He fell down the stairs
and broke his neck.
1074
01:04:55,961 --> 01:04:57,721
He didn't have
anything to live for.
1075
01:04:57,755 --> 01:04:59,516
Nobody else would have
ever hired him.
1076
01:04:59,550 --> 01:05:03,071
He was in way too bad
a shape to be
a manager anymore.
1077
01:05:03,106 --> 01:05:05,418
So, dying was the best thing
he could have done.
1078
01:05:06,523 --> 01:05:08,490
It was horrible
having him for a manager.
1079
01:05:08,525 --> 01:05:12,563
Boy, my career would've
been non-existent
in another few months.
1080
01:05:12,598 --> 01:05:15,670
[Edgar] I think that's why
Paul was so effective.
1081
01:05:17,189 --> 01:05:21,400
He was there,
and he could see
the entire situation.
1082
01:05:21,434 --> 01:05:25,922
And, uh... And he really
brought Johnny back.
1083
01:05:25,956 --> 01:05:32,031
He helped, uh, get him
off drugs.
1084
01:05:32,066 --> 01:05:36,760
And, you know,
that's an amazing feat
in itself.
1085
01:05:36,794 --> 01:05:42,041
You gotta understand,
we're on the tour bus
100-140 times a year.
1086
01:05:42,628 --> 01:05:44,147
And we're family.
1087
01:05:44,181 --> 01:05:48,220
And one of our family members
is falling asleep
in his mashed potatoes.
1088
01:05:48,254 --> 01:05:51,775
He's lighting a cigarette
and his hat's caught in fire,
and he doesn't even know it.
1089
01:05:51,809 --> 01:05:55,054
I had to get him
off the methadone,
but I had read that...
1090
01:05:55,089 --> 01:05:58,471
The withdrawals
were insane.
1091
01:05:58,506 --> 01:06:01,888
So, I had to devise a way
to get him off the methadone
without letting him know,
1092
01:06:01,923 --> 01:06:03,407
but at the same time,
without killing him.
1093
01:06:03,442 --> 01:06:08,309
So, for three years,
I sat and whittled
the pills.
1094
01:06:08,343 --> 01:06:13,107
Smaller, and smaller,
every day,
for three years.
1095
01:06:13,141 --> 01:06:15,833
And saw the change,
and talked to doctors.
1096
01:06:15,868 --> 01:06:17,180
"Okay, there's no
upset stomach,
1097
01:06:17,214 --> 01:06:18,940
"there's no problem,
there's no change."
1098
01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:20,424
And he didn't know
it was happening.
1099
01:06:20,459 --> 01:06:23,462
But then, the tablets
started getting so small,
1100
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:26,016
I couldn't hide it anymore.
1101
01:06:26,051 --> 01:06:29,571
How do I say,
"Well, it used to be
this big, here's your..."
1102
01:06:29,606 --> 01:06:35,543
So, I went online,
and I ordered
empty capsules.
1103
01:06:35,577 --> 01:06:38,408
So, for one year, we went.
His wife knew.
1104
01:06:38,442 --> 01:06:41,273
And the changes
were astronomical.
1105
01:06:41,307 --> 01:06:43,413
The alcohol
was already gone,
1106
01:06:43,447 --> 01:06:46,071
the antidepressants were gone,
and the methadone was gone.
1107
01:06:46,105 --> 01:06:49,108
So, we went a year,
and then on Christmas
1108
01:06:49,143 --> 01:06:51,593
when we
were exchanging gifts,
1109
01:06:51,628 --> 01:06:54,458
we gave him a box,
with the box,
with the little box,
1110
01:06:54,493 --> 01:06:57,013
with the little pill...
That joke.
1111
01:06:57,047 --> 01:06:58,566
And he opened the pill,
and he goes,
1112
01:06:59,084 --> 01:07:00,292
"What's this?"
1113
01:07:00,326 --> 01:07:02,294
[Susan] Looks like methadone.
Open it up.
1114
01:07:02,328 --> 01:07:04,054
[Paul] Open up the pill.
1115
01:07:04,089 --> 01:07:05,573
[Paul] Open up the pill.
1116
01:07:06,091 --> 01:07:07,609
[TV blaring]
1117
01:07:08,472 --> 01:07:09,991
How do you
open the pill?
1118
01:07:10,026 --> 01:07:13,270
[Paul] Just pull it apart,
and tell us what's in there?
1119
01:07:13,305 --> 01:07:16,101
[Susan] Honey, you've been
off methadone for two years.
1120
01:07:16,135 --> 01:07:17,516
That's... huh?
1121
01:07:17,550 --> 01:07:19,414
[Susan] You've been
off methadone for two years.
1122
01:07:19,449 --> 01:07:20,795
What?
1123
01:07:20,829 --> 01:07:22,728
[Susan] Yeah. You've been
off methadone for two years.
1124
01:07:22,762 --> 01:07:23,694
No...
1125
01:07:23,729 --> 01:07:24,764
[Paul] Yes.
1126
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:25,869
What have I been taking?
1127
01:07:25,903 --> 01:07:28,078
[Paul] Nothing.
Empty pills and rice.
1128
01:07:28,113 --> 01:07:29,355
[Paul] You've been methadone free.
1129
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:31,219
So, I don't have
to take anything anymore?
1130
01:07:31,254 --> 01:07:32,600
No.[laughing]
1131
01:07:32,634 --> 01:07:34,360
-I've been taking empty pills?
-Empty pills.
1132
01:07:34,395 --> 01:07:38,088
That's great.
I'm off methadone
and I didn't even know it.
1133
01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:40,435
[interviewer] How did you feel?
1134
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:42,403
I felt so good.
1135
01:07:42,437 --> 01:07:45,440
Didn't have to go
to any more
methadone clinics.
1136
01:07:45,475 --> 01:07:46,959
I'd been off of it
for months.
1137
01:07:46,993 --> 01:07:51,550
He just didn't want to tell me
until he was sure I was okay.
1138
01:07:51,584 --> 01:07:55,071
Got to admit,
the best present
I could have ever had,
1139
01:07:55,105 --> 01:07:57,211
was him helping me
get off methadone.
1140
01:07:59,351 --> 01:08:01,387
But he didn't
just help me.
He did it.
1141
01:08:01,422 --> 01:08:03,527
He did it all by himself.
1142
01:08:03,562 --> 01:08:06,427
He changed completely
form there.
It was...
1143
01:08:06,461 --> 01:08:08,912
The weight gain,
the playing,
the alertness,
1144
01:08:08,946 --> 01:08:10,914
the... just eating...
just came back.
1145
01:08:10,948 --> 01:08:13,468
[ Long Tall Sallyplaying]
1146
01:08:31,107 --> 01:08:32,556
♪
1147
01:08:35,249 --> 01:08:36,629
Johnny Winter!
1148
01:08:50,264 --> 01:08:53,025
I love you so much,
Johnny Winter.
1149
01:08:53,059 --> 01:08:54,302
I love Johnny!
1150
01:08:55,027 --> 01:08:57,340
Johnny, you're great!
1151
01:08:57,374 --> 01:08:58,858
I love you, Johnny!
1152
01:09:05,037 --> 01:09:07,419
The Johnny Winter Band!
1153
01:09:10,215 --> 01:09:11,837
[ Long Tall Sally
continues playing]
1154
01:09:18,084 --> 01:09:19,741
[crowd cheering]
1155
01:09:30,787 --> 01:09:31,960
♪
1156
01:09:41,177 --> 01:09:43,455
[crowd cheering]
1157
01:09:49,254 --> 01:09:50,324
Thank you!
1158
01:09:53,016 --> 01:09:55,260
[ Can't You Feel Itplaying]
1159
01:10:15,970 --> 01:10:17,282
♪
1160
01:10:31,468 --> 01:10:33,367
[Paul] ...onions,
just throw it all in there.
1161
01:10:33,401 --> 01:10:34,644
Spin that around.
1162
01:10:34,678 --> 01:10:36,818
[Paul on mic] Chef Boy Winter.
1163
01:10:36,853 --> 01:10:37,923
[Johnny] I need more vodka.
1164
01:10:37,957 --> 01:10:39,200
[Paul] Don't touch that glass.
1165
01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:40,960
-I'm touching it.
-Give me that! Give, give!
1166
01:10:40,995 --> 01:10:42,238
[laughter]
1167
01:10:42,272 --> 01:10:45,655
[growling] I'm having
a really good time.
1168
01:10:45,689 --> 01:10:46,759
[laughter]
1169
01:10:46,794 --> 01:10:47,898
You just love the mic.
1170
01:10:47,933 --> 01:10:51,247
♪ If I knew
If I knew
1171
01:10:51,281 --> 01:10:54,905
♪ Yes I could
If I knew ♪
1172
01:10:55,285 --> 01:10:57,839
[laughter]
1173
01:10:57,874 --> 01:11:01,153
[Johnny] I wanna give it, but you don't want it.
1174
01:11:01,187 --> 01:11:04,190
I don't know
what to do with it.
1175
01:11:04,225 --> 01:11:06,848
But I'm gonna
do it anyway.
1176
01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:10,680
Oh I'd die
before we get home.
1177
01:11:11,059 --> 01:11:12,440
[laughter]
1178
01:11:16,651 --> 01:11:18,032
Oh, crap.
1179
01:11:19,136 --> 01:11:21,138
All right,
here we go.
1180
01:11:21,173 --> 01:11:22,312
[Paul] You got this one, right?
1181
01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:24,487
I love Georgia.
1182
01:11:24,521 --> 01:11:26,592
I love everything
right now.
1183
01:11:27,179 --> 01:11:29,077
[laughter]
1184
01:11:29,112 --> 01:11:31,804
♪ I'm say Georgia
1185
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:36,844
♪ Georgia
1186
01:11:38,501 --> 01:11:42,367
♪ A song of you
A song of you
1187
01:11:44,334 --> 01:11:47,786
♪ Just an old sweet song
1188
01:11:48,718 --> 01:11:55,380
♪ Keeps Georgia
On my mind
1189
01:11:55,414 --> 01:11:58,383
♪ On my mind
1190
01:11:58,417 --> 01:12:01,558
♪ Whoa, Georgia
1191
01:12:02,904 --> 01:12:06,632
♪ Whoa, Georgia
1192
01:12:08,565 --> 01:12:12,569
♪ The whole day through
1193
01:12:14,260 --> 01:12:17,816
♪ Just oh, so sweet and clear
1194
01:12:18,886 --> 01:12:23,649
♪ Like moonlight
Through the pines
1195
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:26,376
Yeah, get it.
1196
01:12:26,411 --> 01:12:31,105
♪ Whoa, Georgia
1197
01:12:33,797 --> 01:12:37,318
♪ Georgia
1198
01:12:37,353 --> 01:12:40,425
♪ No, no peace
1199
01:12:40,459 --> 01:12:42,185
♪ No peace I find
1200
01:12:42,219 --> 01:12:43,462
[laughing heartily]
1201
01:12:44,429 --> 01:12:47,432
♪ Just an old sweet song
1202
01:12:48,433 --> 01:12:55,025
♪ Keeps Georgia
On my mind
1203
01:12:56,441 --> 01:12:58,477
♪ Georgia on my mind
1204
01:12:59,271 --> 01:13:00,790
[cheering]
1205
01:13:04,172 --> 01:13:05,381
Yeah!
1206
01:13:07,348 --> 01:13:08,763
Yeah, I'm good.
1207
01:13:10,178 --> 01:13:11,801
I'm really fucking good.
1208
01:13:12,284 --> 01:13:14,320
[laughing]
1209
01:13:14,355 --> 01:13:15,494
[Paul] What'd you say?
1210
01:13:15,529 --> 01:13:17,910
[Johnny] I said I'm really
damn good!
1211
01:13:18,290 --> 01:13:19,705
[laughter]
1212
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:22,087
Oh, man.
1213
01:13:34,271 --> 01:13:35,963
-You guys ready?
-Yeah.
1214
01:13:35,997 --> 01:13:37,413
[blues music playing]
1215
01:13:47,181 --> 01:13:48,596
It's ready to go, right?
1216
01:13:49,252 --> 01:13:51,047
[talking together]
1217
01:13:58,503 --> 01:14:01,298
Damn, I thought
we were ready to play.
1218
01:14:01,333 --> 01:14:03,473
Why the fuck
did I get ready?
1219
01:14:03,508 --> 01:14:06,165
-It's gonna be late
for half an hour.
-Oh, no.
1220
01:14:10,756 --> 01:14:14,588
It's gonna be 15-20 minutes
before we play, probably.
1221
01:14:17,107 --> 01:14:21,146
Paul said five or 10 minutes.
It's already been five minutes.
1222
01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:23,597
Just fucking play, god!
1223
01:14:23,631 --> 01:14:26,082
It's already been
three or four minutes.
1224
01:14:26,116 --> 01:14:29,534
Well, it's been 10 minutes,
and we're still
not fucking playing.
1225
01:14:30,535 --> 01:14:33,192
What the fuck
are we waiting for?
God!
1226
01:14:33,227 --> 01:14:36,230
I'm talking about
it probably might close
if we had five minutes.
1227
01:14:36,264 --> 01:14:37,887
[Ansgar] Why don't you
just enjoy yourself?
1228
01:14:37,921 --> 01:14:40,924
Because I can't.
I'm not enjoying
just sitting here.
1229
01:14:42,029 --> 01:14:44,272
What is there
to even fucking enjoy?
1230
01:14:44,859 --> 01:14:45,860
Nothing.
1231
01:14:47,379 --> 01:14:49,346
I've always had anger problems.
1232
01:14:49,381 --> 01:14:50,624
[Nicholas]
Since when?
1233
01:14:50,658 --> 01:14:52,557
Since I can't remember.
1234
01:14:52,591 --> 01:14:56,699
Well, give me an idea
of how early you remember.
1235
01:14:56,733 --> 01:15:00,012
Well, somebody would
fuck with me about
being different.
1236
01:15:02,014 --> 01:15:03,050
Yeah?
1237
01:15:04,569 --> 01:15:06,743
I get very angry.
1238
01:15:06,778 --> 01:15:09,539
What was the earliest
time you remember
somebody fucking with you?
1239
01:15:09,574 --> 01:15:11,610
Well, a lot
of different times.
1240
01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:13,681
Said, "Why do you
look so weird?"
1241
01:15:13,716 --> 01:15:16,097
"What's wrong with you?"
1242
01:15:16,132 --> 01:15:18,790
"'Cause I can't help it.
I don't know."
1243
01:15:18,824 --> 01:15:20,861
Do you think
there's anything
wrong with you now?
1244
01:15:20,895 --> 01:15:21,965
No.
1245
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,174
Well, my OCD,
which is not good.
1246
01:15:24,209 --> 01:15:26,038
I wish
I didn't have it.
1247
01:15:26,073 --> 01:15:28,385
Did you use to wish
you didn't have
other things?
1248
01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:29,594
No.
1249
01:15:30,249 --> 01:15:31,527
No.
1250
01:15:31,561 --> 01:15:34,564
No, I never wanted to
look like everybody else.
1251
01:15:34,599 --> 01:15:37,049
I was completely happy
with that.
1252
01:15:37,084 --> 01:15:39,845
[Paul] It was pretty immediate
when the drugs went away.
1253
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,641
'Cause the drugs
were definitely used
to mask this problem.
1254
01:15:42,676 --> 01:15:45,161
And the finger twiddling
was the first to start.
1255
01:15:45,195 --> 01:15:47,750
These little rituals
started happening,
and then...
1256
01:15:47,784 --> 01:15:49,683
You know,
things with water bottles,
1257
01:15:49,717 --> 01:15:52,755
or timing, or getting
very nervous and anxious.
1258
01:15:52,789 --> 01:15:54,584
So, I'm like,
"Something's going on here."
1259
01:15:54,619 --> 01:15:57,276
Chug, chug, chug...
1260
01:15:57,311 --> 01:15:59,278
When he had his watch on,
he would sip,
look at his watch,
1261
01:15:59,313 --> 01:16:01,626
sip, look at the watch.
Every 10 seconds.
1262
01:16:01,660 --> 01:16:05,975
Sip, sip, sip...
'cause some doctor said he was dehydrated or something.
1263
01:16:06,009 --> 01:16:11,083
So, actually it's a good thing
to stay hydrated, but he
took it to the extreme.
1264
01:16:11,843 --> 01:16:13,396
I gotta get
a new bottle.
1265
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:16,192
We would notice
that he would drink it
half way down in sips,
1266
01:16:16,226 --> 01:16:20,058
and then after the half way, he would have to finish it the minute he'll get a new one.
1267
01:16:20,092 --> 01:16:21,715
So, I devised a plan.
1268
01:16:21,749 --> 01:16:25,132
"All right, if he can't
see the level going down,
let's put some duct tape on it
1269
01:16:25,166 --> 01:16:27,997
and then he'll relax
and be able to focus
on other things.
1270
01:16:28,031 --> 01:16:30,482
And we'd broken another
chain of things.
1271
01:16:30,516 --> 01:16:35,763
Then the timing things. Like,
we have to be there, to
our hotel destination at 2:00.
1272
01:16:35,798 --> 01:16:37,869
2:00, 2:00, 2:00.
1273
01:16:37,903 --> 01:16:40,906
And then things like
if you got there at 1:59,
1274
01:16:41,458 --> 01:16:42,598
you lied.
1275
01:16:44,807 --> 01:16:47,119
It's about 11:45.
1276
01:16:47,154 --> 01:16:48,949
Now, to his credit,
1277
01:16:48,983 --> 01:16:51,503
a lot of people
have some form of it.
1278
01:16:51,537 --> 01:16:55,093
Especially people
that are successful,
because it's what drives you.
1279
01:16:56,681 --> 01:16:58,821
So, is it a good thing
or a bad thing?
1280
01:16:58,855 --> 01:17:00,995
It's how, I mean, you know,
a lot of people said,
1281
01:17:01,030 --> 01:17:03,101
if you take heroin,
it makes you
a better musician.
1282
01:17:03,135 --> 01:17:06,311
Miles Davis and all,
they experimented with it
and they became great.
1283
01:17:06,345 --> 01:17:08,106
What happened afterwards?
1284
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:10,039
[interviewer] How does
that OCD fit in your life?
1285
01:17:10,073 --> 01:17:12,973
Well, it's just a problem
I gotta deal with.
1286
01:17:13,007 --> 01:17:18,116
They say that drugs
can help cause it.
1287
01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:20,843
Then you get off the drugs
and you start to hallucinate.
1288
01:17:20,877 --> 01:17:22,879
[interviewer] Are you aware
of it when that's happening?
1289
01:17:22,914 --> 01:17:24,432
Yes.
1290
01:17:24,467 --> 01:17:26,572
[interviewer] But it's not
something you can control,
or would you say...
1291
01:17:26,607 --> 01:17:28,126
I try to control it.
1292
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:29,610
Yeah.
1293
01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:30,922
I don't know if
I'm getting better at it,
1294
01:17:30,956 --> 01:17:34,166
but I still have fears
of pissing people off.
1295
01:17:37,204 --> 01:17:40,103
[interviewer] That's okay
though. You're a rock star,
right?
1296
01:17:40,138 --> 01:17:43,003
[David Letterman]
Our next guest
is a legendary guitarist,
1297
01:17:43,037 --> 01:17:45,384
whose most recent
Grammy-nominated album
1298
01:17:45,419 --> 01:17:49,319
pays tribute to
the great blues players
of the last century.
1299
01:17:49,354 --> 01:17:51,667
Please welcome
Johnny Winter.
1300
01:17:51,701 --> 01:17:53,082
[applause]
1301
01:17:53,116 --> 01:17:57,327
One, two...
One, two, three, four.
1302
01:17:57,362 --> 01:17:59,778
[ Dust My Broomplaying]
1303
01:18:18,624 --> 01:18:20,143
♪
1304
01:18:32,673 --> 01:18:34,468
[Jay Sieleman]
In 1988,
1305
01:18:34,502 --> 01:18:40,094
the Blues Foundation
inducted Johnny Winter
into the Blues Hall of Fame.
1306
01:18:40,129 --> 01:18:42,027
[cheering]
1307
01:18:42,062 --> 01:18:44,512
Now, neither Johnny
nor the Blues Foundation
1308
01:18:44,547 --> 01:18:48,068
know exactly where either
one of us were at that time.
1309
01:18:48,102 --> 01:18:52,900
It is a great pleasure,
a great honor,
and great respect
1310
01:18:52,935 --> 01:18:55,558
to present to you,
Johnny,
1311
01:18:55,592 --> 01:18:59,355
the plaque, from 1988,
1312
01:19:00,632 --> 01:19:03,497
inducting you into the Blues Hall of Fame.
1313
01:19:03,531 --> 01:19:05,085
[cheering]
1314
01:19:06,189 --> 01:19:08,467
[ Dust My Broom
continues playing]
1315
01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:36,737
God almighty!
1316
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:38,049
Thank you!
1317
01:19:38,083 --> 01:19:38,946
Wow!
1318
01:19:38,981 --> 01:19:41,466
That was fantastic.
Very nice.
1319
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:42,881
Johnny, good to see you.
1320
01:19:42,916 --> 01:19:45,159
You know,
here's what
we're gonna do.
1321
01:19:45,194 --> 01:19:46,920
-Paul, get us a van.
-Okay.
1322
01:19:46,954 --> 01:19:49,785
Uh, and I'll get
some cheap speed...
1323
01:19:49,819 --> 01:19:51,165
Right.
1324
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,235
[laughter]
1325
01:19:52,270 --> 01:19:54,617
-Some coffee and some donuts...
-Yep.
1326
01:19:54,651 --> 01:19:56,308
And we'll just
drive all night.
1327
01:19:56,343 --> 01:19:57,378
What do you say?
1328
01:19:57,413 --> 01:19:59,311
My God, let's do it!
1329
01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:01,831
Thanks so much,
and good night, everybody.
1330
01:20:03,833 --> 01:20:05,939
Just to get a trailer,
and some cheap speed,
1331
01:20:05,973 --> 01:20:08,665
and donuts,
and drive all night.
1332
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:10,840
I heard the donuts
and drive all night part.
1333
01:20:12,497 --> 01:20:15,603
The last thing
I'd fucking do
is take any speed.
1334
01:20:19,884 --> 01:20:21,333
Maybe heroin.
1335
01:20:21,368 --> 01:20:22,921
All right, all right.
1336
01:20:23,577 --> 01:20:24,958
No speed.
1337
01:20:26,856 --> 01:20:33,759
[Edgar] I think that Johnny,
now, is really coming back
to being himself.
1338
01:20:33,794 --> 01:20:35,831
I gotta see it again.
1339
01:20:35,865 --> 01:20:37,349
That's so good.
1340
01:20:38,523 --> 01:20:40,421
[Paul] 1988,
you finally get it.
1341
01:20:41,457 --> 01:20:42,527
About time.
1342
01:20:43,459 --> 01:20:46,255
Whoa, that's so cool.
1343
01:20:46,289 --> 01:20:50,052
[Edgar] I hope that he
is going to find happiness
and fulfillment
1344
01:20:50,086 --> 01:20:52,192
in his personal life.
1345
01:20:52,226 --> 01:20:54,159
And to be able to continue
to play the music
1346
01:20:54,194 --> 01:20:57,749
that he loves,
and has always
cared about.
1347
01:20:57,783 --> 01:21:03,375
And has always remained
true to, you know,
throughout his career.
1348
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,963
1988.
1349
01:21:09,140 --> 01:21:12,281
I had tears in my eyes,
I really did.
1350
01:21:12,315 --> 01:21:14,490
Man, I love that.
1351
01:21:17,113 --> 01:21:19,357
Get a picture of it.
1352
01:21:19,391 --> 01:21:21,186
Do you wanna
get a picture of it
or what?
1353
01:21:21,221 --> 01:21:22,912
Hold it up
and smile, brother.
1354
01:21:23,706 --> 01:21:25,225
Oh, I'm smiling.
1355
01:21:26,088 --> 01:21:27,675
I'm smiling all right.
1356
01:21:30,575 --> 01:21:32,853
[interviewer] You're
coming up on 70 years, right?
1357
01:21:32,888 --> 01:21:34,372
[Johnny] Yep.
1358
01:21:34,406 --> 01:21:35,994
[interviewer] How long
have you been doing this?
Like literally,
1359
01:21:36,029 --> 01:21:37,651
playing music
and traveling...
1360
01:21:37,685 --> 01:21:39,273
Since I was 15.
1361
01:21:40,688 --> 01:21:43,829
Started playing
and made my first record
when I was 15.
1362
01:21:43,864 --> 01:21:46,936
Started playing in clubs
when I was 15.
1363
01:21:46,971 --> 01:21:49,594
Started drinking and smoking
when I was 15.
1364
01:21:50,802 --> 01:21:52,873
Sex when I was 15.
1365
01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:55,876
Fifteen was a big year
for me. [laughing]
1366
01:21:55,911 --> 01:22:00,398
But it was fun.
I wouldn't take anything back
except heroin.
1367
01:22:00,432 --> 01:22:02,918
I wouldn't do that
if I had to do it over.
1368
01:22:02,952 --> 01:22:04,712
But...
1369
01:22:04,747 --> 01:22:09,269
All the drinking and sex,
I wouldn't take that back.
[chuckling]
1370
01:22:09,303 --> 01:22:12,582
I've been wanting
to do this ever since
I was like 12 years old,
1371
01:22:12,617 --> 01:22:13,929
I was pretty sure...
1372
01:22:13,963 --> 01:22:15,585
That's what I wanted to do.
1373
01:22:17,553 --> 01:22:20,521
I never wanted to do
anything else.
I didn't have a Plan B.
1374
01:22:20,556 --> 01:22:23,283
"If I don't make it
in music, then I'll do this."
1375
01:22:23,317 --> 01:22:26,148
I knew. I always knew
I was gonna make it
in music.
1376
01:22:27,770 --> 01:22:30,566
I just was sure of it.
1377
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,328
[interviewer] Do you think
that makes you lucky that
you knew what you wanted to do?
1378
01:22:34,363 --> 01:22:35,605
Oh, very lucky.
1379
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,299
I've had one of the best lives
anybody could ever have.
1380
01:22:39,333 --> 01:22:42,543
I've been able to do
exactly what I wanted to do.
1381
01:22:42,578 --> 01:22:45,581
Get paid for it
and have people
love me for it.
1382
01:22:45,615 --> 01:22:48,239
It's great.
It's been a great life.
1383
01:22:48,273 --> 01:22:50,275
[interviewer]
What do you think your life
would have been like
1384
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:51,587
had there been no heroin?
1385
01:22:51,621 --> 01:22:55,522
It would have been better.
Definitely, been better.
1386
01:22:55,556 --> 01:22:58,732
I had to try it,
though. There was
all that mystique and
1387
01:22:59,802 --> 01:23:01,493
Janis Joplin said that,
1388
01:23:01,528 --> 01:23:04,876
"Anything that makes you
fell that good,
can't be all bad."
1389
01:23:04,910 --> 01:23:06,153
She was wrong.
1390
01:23:06,188 --> 01:23:07,775
It can be all that bad.
1391
01:23:07,810 --> 01:23:09,605
It's a terrible drug.
1392
01:23:09,639 --> 01:23:11,710
[interviewer]
Why should people
watch this film?
1393
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I've been through
a lot of shit. [laughing]
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You know, it's interesting,
all these life stories
about people that...
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Drank and had
drug problems and...
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Women problems.
It's just interesting.
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[interviewer]
And usually those
don't end well.
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Yeah, but mine has.
[laughing]
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One, two...
One, two, three.
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