All language subtitles for Through a Different Lens – Olivia Madison, Mckenzie Lee – PervTherapy

Hi.

Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'm
Mackenzie.

Hi. Nice to meet you. I'm Mackenzie.
Hello.

You guys want to take a seat?

Sure. Thank you.

Hello, guys.

How are you?

Doing all right.

Going through some frustration.

Wait, let's start with, what are you
named?

I'm Josh.

Nice to meet you, Josh. Olivia.

Nice to meet you, Olivia.

Nice to meet you.

So, well, clearly, I'm a family
therapist.

I've been doing this now for about six
years. I've had my own practice. I'm

pretty good at what I do, so I'm just
going to ask you guys to trust me.

We just need to trust the process.

Sometimes it can be a little bit
uncomfortable, but trust me, once we

through the opposite end, it's going to
be great.

What's your relationship to each other?

She's my stepsister. Oh, nice.

Okay.

That's cool.

So, do you guys want to take it in turn
and tell me about yourself?

Sure. Well,

let's start out with it. Are you at
school?

Yeah, I just started college, but I've
been away from home now for about a

semester. It's been kind of...

Kind of hard to adjust to not be around
everyone or my family.

That's tough.

And how old are you?

I'm 21.

She's a baby.

I'm actually the older one, though.
Who's the baby here?

Come on, stop.

You are, though.

That's kind of cute.

So do you have hobbies?

Well,

I like...

I like to travel, but like usually with
my family.

I like going out with my friends.

Do you have a boyfriend?

No, I've never had a boyfriend.

I just, I've been waiting for the right
guy to be my first boyfriend.

Yeah. Okay. I feel like I haven't had
much time either. I'm always taking care

of this one.

Oh, wow.

Throwing shots at me.

Just because I'm your little brother
does not mean you've got to treat me

that. What are you talking about?

Okay, so... Okay.

So your turn.

Tell me about yourself, Josh.

I am a senior.

About to graduate from high school.

And... I don't know. I mean, I play
sports.

Straight A student. He's the best on the
football team. That's cute.

The best. The coach needs to make him on
the starting team, but he won't because

it's just them.

But anyway, sorry.

What about you? Do you have a
girlfriend?

I do not. I keep trying, but a lot of
girls that I've,

you know, went on dates with and been
around, and every time I bring them

around, it brings...

Brings up problems. Oh, they weren't
tramps.

Really? Really?

So, let me guess. Is this why we're here
today?

Like, do you want to tell me a little
bit about why we're here and why you

are having an issue?

So, the reason why we're here is I would
like to, you know, date

and see other girls, but every time I
do, I...

stepsister here.

She puts them through tests and then
they end up leaving.

I don't really know what her issue is,
but I don't know. I feel like I'm

to date.

Okay, so let me ask the living room.

I'm going to get a lot of what comes up
for you when Josh tracks it in. It's

crazy that you say that because I just
feel like our whole lives I've been

looking out for him and just protecting
him. He's always getting into trouble.

He's always getting borderline into
fights. I always have to look out for

He's like my baby brother.

He's always getting into trouble. You
just don't even know.

And now I just feel like these girls are
just bad news.

None of them are good enough.

They're just going to get you into more
trouble and they're not going to be able

to protect you like I do.

But I feel like that's for me to find
out, right?

I just, I think you're blindsided by

their assets.

So what kind of test does she put them
for?

She's just constantly like, she'll be
like, what are your expectations on a

date? What is...

Like, what do you expect the boy to do?

Just the typical stuff. It's nothing
crazy.

They just, it's totally, it's totally
more than just the typical stuff. So

why do you feel the need to do this to
him? I mean, why do you, like, why do

feel the need to protect him so hard?

I mean, he's just so special to me.
Like, he's my

little brother, and like...

I just feel like he can't look out for
himself like you're always getting into

trouble and like you just don't even you
don't even realize how much trouble you

would have been in like without me
looking out for you and I just want the

for you like why are you pushing me away
these girls are not going to be there

for you the same way I'm going to be
there for you like I've known you longer

like they're not going to ever
understand you the same way do you

one time in fourth grade on the back of
the bus Steve Kelly almost beat you up

and if it wasn't for me stepping in you
would have been Ground beef right now.

Or seventh grade.

Do you remember that one?

I mean, yeah, but... At recess?

I was young.

I'm 18 now.

I'm an adult.

Okay, but wait.

None of these incidents have to do with
girls.

So why are you protecting him so hard
when it comes to other females being in

his life?

They're just not good enough for him.
Like, they're all just like... Do you

a little jealous?

No, I'm not jealous. Why would I be
jealous? He's my brother.

She's totally jealous.

I don't know, because... Why would I be
jealous? I mean, but what comes up for

you? Like, do you think that you're not
going to get the same attention from him

anymore?

Like, there's not enough time, is there,
then?

Like, what is it?

He focuses somewhere else.

I don't know.

I just... I just don't like seeing you
with them.

It just makes me so angry and... They're
just... They're not good for you.

She seems a little jealous.

I hate to say that, Olivia, but it's
true. You seem to be a little jealous.

Go away.

So...

But let me ask you, how are you acting
when you're around these girls to make

her feel that way? Because there might
be something that you're doing that

her feel like that. I mean, obviously,
because it's a girl that I'm going on a

date with or a girl that I'm hanging out
with, I'm going to give her more

attention than I would my sister, right?
But that's how a date's supposed to go,

is it not?

I mean, it is, but you guys are together
every day or you're not together every

day? How does this work?

It's been harder since I've been going
to school, but I try and spend as much

time as I can.

Like, we hang out all the time after
school.

Do you specifically make dates when you
know the interest is coming over?

It doesn't intentionally happen that
way, but, I mean, sometimes it...

Sometimes it could, I mean, sometimes a
girl could be there when she happens to

be home.

So maybe we need to check each other's
schedules a little more and have a few

boundaries set in place, right?

Yeah. So, but it's clear to me that
there's definitely love in this room.

you definitely love each other.

I don't know how comfortable you are in
saying that to each other.

Um.

Um.

Wait. No?

It's not there?

um like emotion is not i don't know if
you've ever said that before

josh do you look at her like she's your
sister or i mean what what what

is it do you have you always thought
she's my sister or

could that be a little more um

Do I have to answer that? I mean, I'm
not going to tell your parents. I mean,

you're in therapy, and therapy is a safe
space for everyone, right?

I mean... So I'm not going to tell your
parents.

It's just going to be between you and I.
Oh, and I also want to bring that up,

the fact that I have a camera set on my
desk, and that's just to, like, help me

later on try and figure out how to work
with you guys better. Okay. So I can

review the footage and then see what you
all have done and go from there.

But as you all step siblings, correct?

Mm -hmm.

When did you come into each other's
lives?

I think it was when we were pretty
young. We've pretty much known each

almost our entire lives.

Yeah, pretty much our entire lives.

I've known him since he was just a
little baby, and I still feel like he's

same little baby, just like in a phase.

I mean, he is. He's very cute.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, I don't know.

There's definitely love here. I just
think that you guys may need to explore

what that love looks like for you.

Have you always looked at Josh like he's
your brother? Or potentially... Of

course. I mean, he's my little brother.

He's just like a little kid brother to
me.

Okay, so let's try something. We're
going to do some exercise, okay?

Would that be okay with you guys?

I mean the only way to get through this
problem is to go through the

uncomfortable, uncomfortability of like
figuring out where you guys stand

with each other because obviously I
think, personally I think there's a

more going on here than you just say and
I know it's a little uncomfortable for

you guys but When I look at you two, I
see two people that clearly may be

attracted to each other in a, in more of
a, you know, way,

a romantic way than just brother and
sister.

Um, I don't know about that, but what
kind of exercise?

Well, I'm thinking maybe you guys should
stand up and you face each other.

Okay, that doesn't seem that bad.

No.

Okay, guys, I just want you to stand
there and actually look at each other

minute. But you guys do want to work
this out, right?

You want to work out these issues to get
to the opposite side of whatever's

going on here.

Yeah, we have to be here otherwise.

So we have to go through a few things
that you may not feel super comfortable

about. Just a warning.

Okay.

Okay. What?

Well, I'm going to show you.

Okay.

Sorry, I just need you to trust me,
okay?

Okay, so you guys, do you think they
look at each other?

And then, Josh, how do you feel when you
look into Olivia's eyes?

I mean, I just see my bratty, older
sister.

I mean, let's get a little deeper in
that, Josh. Come on, what do you see

Like, think about it.

I want you to really look at her face
and the structure of her face.

Like, do you think that the color of her
eyes are pretty?

I mean, I guess.

I don't know. I still need to see my
sister.

I don't know.

We need to dig further in there, Josh.
Like, I know there's something more in

there. Trust me, you're just not giving
it to us.

When you look at Olivia, I'm going to
ask you one more time, and you look at

in her eyes, what do you say I need to
be open, honest, and vulnerable?

Do I really have to? Yeah. It's the only
way to get through.

She's absolutely amazing.

Visual features and pretty eyes.

Do you think that every

day when you look at her?

I can't answer this.

Come on, Josh.

When you look at her.

Yes, I think that every day.

I maybe might even

have a little bit of crush on my sister.

Okay, well, that's okay.

I mean, you are step siblings. These are
normal human emotions, and I want to

make you aware of that. That's okay.

Okay.

Don't feel funny about being my kids.

We're getting somewhere.

Okay, I'm going to need your time.

What do you feel when you look at Josh?

I mean, he's just my kid little brother.

Really?

You watch Josh do the same thing. I need
you to be open, honest, vulnerable

with your feelings, your emotions. I
need you to really look at him and tell

him. What do you see when you look at
him?

Well, I guess he's pretty handsome.

And we're getting so big.

We're going to be up to be a man.

And it's just so strange to watch.

This is so hard.

Are you getting somewhere?

I guess.

I think he has nice eyes as well.

And I think he's

getting stronger.

But what do you see about his
appearance?

Like, are you attracted to him?

I'm going to pull it out of you.

Like, I just don't think about it.

Or maybe have you not thought about it?

I know he's very handsome. That's why I
know these girls aren't good enough for

him.

Okay, so if you really think about that
thought, are you good enough for him?

Oh, yeah.

Well, you answered your own question.

Oh, but like... So, let me ask you a
question.

So, when you look at him, are you
attracted to him physically?

Like... Romantically. Do I find him
physically attractive?

Romantically. Do you want to kiss him?

Maybe sometimes, but...

Sometimes. Or all the time.

Remember, Olivia, I'm not going to tell
your parents you are safe and you can be

free with whatever you say.

I just want to remind you that you guys
are safe.

We're trying to get through the bomb.

Well, I've definitely thought about it
before, but I don't know if I'd ever do

it. Okay, so if you had the opportunity
to kiss him now, would you?

Why would I do that? Why are we asking
these questions?

Because we're trying to figure out what
the cause of your issues are and it

seems that the cause of your issues may
be the fact that you two are attracted

to each other and neither one of you is
acting on it.

Because you think it's wrong because you
guys are stepping in on it.

So in order to push through we're going
to have to get a little uncomfortable.

feedback from it already a little
uncomfortable okay so josh when you look

olivia's body what do you feel and
what's the point where do you feel it

uh i

mean

very uh attractive woman

Mm -hmm.

Do you ever look at her when she's
wearing a bathing suit or a bikini or

like that and feel other things?

I mean, is that really, I don't know, is
that question really necessary?

You have to trust me, Josh.

It's just a yes or no question.

Do you feel things?

Yes, I have.

I suppose.

Have you ever...

Touched yourself while thinking about
the wedding?

Oh my God. I feel like... Are you sure
this is

necessary?

I promise if you trust me, you're going
to feel better.

Maybe I have, maybe I haven't.

Let's do the yes or no, Josh.

Let me restate the question.

How should I have learned?

touched yourself while thinking about
Olivia?

Yes or no?

Yes. Thank you.

And Olivia, thank you for your honesty.

Olivia, have you ever touched yourself
while thinking about Josh?

Well, maybe like...

Only once this week.

Oh, okay. So it's definitely, yes. Yeah.
But, like, only, like, once, like,

recently. This week?

Yeah, maybe, well, maybe twice. Let me
see. Do you see where I'm going? If you

guys are clearly attracted to each
other, the next exercise is going to be

little more uncomfortable.

Are you guys ready?

Oh, my God.

What exactly is the next exercise?

Olivia, I need you to take off your top.

Josh,

have you ever seen Olivia's breath?

Not officially.

Okay, so you've peed.

Possibly. Okay, so Olivia, would you
mind moving your top?

Have to do this. I mean do I have to get
naked just to make you guys feel okay?

Okay

Excited.

So what if I were to like put your hand
on?

Olivia, how does it make you feel now
Josh is actually touching you? Because

fantasized about him once, twice last
week. I never even said that.

You said that.

I feel hot.

Oh, you feel hot?

But is it making you feel better?

Yes.

Okay.

So Josh, maybe you should like put the

other hand there and caress her boobs a
little bit.

How does that make you feel?

Is it good?

It does feel good.

Josh, maybe you should put your tongue
on this very subtle nipple.

My tongue?

Mm -hmm, your tongue.

I mean, with him now.

Yeah.

I mean, clearly you guys do want to work
it out, right?

Yeah.

Okay. Okay.

Which...

Which one do you want?

You can touch your head.

Josh, maybe you should remove your top.

So it's not just that. Okay.

Okay.

I think we're checking off.

We're getting a little strange.

What?

Are you figuring it out?

Okay, guys.

All right.

Now maybe you should put your hands on
each other and see how that feels.

Now how about that kiss?

Is that necessary?

It's just a way to measure things.

Look, I mean, I can kiss all of your
parts.

What?

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Let's remember that.

We're digging deep.

It's not that hard.

I promise you, like, it's just bodies in
a room.

I promise you, it's not that difficult.

Look, I'm about to be a lot smaller. I'm
going to take my shoes off.

how we're supposed to fix this. Yeah,
until we're fixing it, and we're fixing

naked.

I can't believe we're doing this. Well,
kind of naked.

Probably naked by the end of it.

Wouldn't you say you went to school
again?

Many places, don't worry about it.

I'm much smaller and you're very naked.

It's okay.

Touch each other.

Olivia, I want you to put your hand on
him.

You want it? Yeah, touch me.

I'm going to be with Josh.

How does that make you feel, Josh?

Is it sending all tingles through your

body? Yeah.

It really is finally touching you.

I mean, you know, I've seen them before
and touched one.

Okay.

Josh, put your hand on her booty.

Right there.

You guys are now touching each other.

How do you feel?

I feel so good.

Do you feel good?

Do you feel nice?

For most of all, it feels right, right?

Mm -hmm.

It does.

I think so.

How about you turn around and show me?

Touch it, Josh.

Touch it.

It's soft and purple, right?

Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm.

Very.

Okay, now guys, I need you to both take
off your underwear, both at the same

time. Okay.

Okay, we do it together?

Yeah.

I'm going to do it too, just so you guys
feel more comfortable in here.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay guys, keep touching.

How's that feel?

Yeah?

Right there.

Oh my god.

I swear, if I told you to drop Timmy,
I'd put his penis in your mouth.

You're just working your way through
them.

This will help fix our relationship.

It's going to fix all of your problems,
I promise.

Do you trust each other?

Yeah. Okay.

That's it.

Do you want to taste one of these?

Olivia, do you want to make yourself
comfortable?

Are you sure this is okay?

I promise you it's okay Josh you can
touch it, look

at it

Look how wet she is right now.

She's so wet.

She likes you, huh?

See?

Josh, you want to taste it?

Okay, taste it.

Here, can I help if I can play with the
TV while you're done?

Oh, my God.

Yeah. Oh, wow.

So good.

So good. Oh, I keep dreaming of this.
See?

Oh, I feel so much better than I
imagined.

Mm -hmm.

Oh, I feel so good, Josh.

No.

Oh, Josh.

Right? Sounds so good.

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

That's so good.

Josh,

let me just get you ready.

Do you want to feel what it feels like
to see a cock in there?

Yeah,

you wanna?

Or do you want me to feel you first?

How do you feel, Olivia?

I feel good, but I'm just a little
nervous.

Are you sure this is okay?

Yeah.

Mm -hmm. Okay.

Yeah, if you think we should.

Yeah, I think we should.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

my God. Oh,

my God.

First of all, do you guys want to cry?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

my God.

You're having sleep better, isn't it?

Oh, my God. Yeah, it's so good.

I'm just going to let you guys go for a
minute, yeah?

Yeah. Why don't you write some notes?

God, so could I. Holy fuck.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Is it good?

Yes. Are we getting somewhere?

We're getting somewhere.

I hope so, right?

Oh, my God.

You see, your girlfriend could never do
this for you.

Oh, Olivia, we don't talk about that
while we're trying to figure this out.

I'm all you need.

Well,

Olivia, I just need to help you a little
bit, okay?

me. I need you to put places with me.

I need you to keep that or something.

How does it make you feel?

Right there?

Right there?

Right? Right?

How does it make you feel?

I think it's so nice. I know, but you're
sharing. You realize that, right?

You're sharing.

I guess I am.

See?

There's nothing to be jealous of.

You're so good at your job.

I know. That's why I'm trying to fix it.

I have to get your job.

See, you're sharing now.

There's nothing to be jealous of.

Josh, you're sharing.

I'm sharing.

I want

to

see my twin again.

You want to see them?

You're doing such a good job. I know.

Thank you.

Who else likes Angle? Oh, gosh.

You look so good. You look really great
on you. You look so good. Right?

Oh, my God.

Josh,

I love you. I love you. I love you.

Oh,

my God. Oh, my God.

Oh,

my God.

Yes. Oh,

that feels so good. Right there.

He loves it. Look at me.

Oh, he's going crazy.

Look.

You guys are really familiar.

Tell him. Tell him.

Josh,

tell him.

Right? How's that pussy feel?

Oh, God, it feels so good. It's nice and
wet.

Hi. Beautiful.

Right there.

I think we're getting somewhere, guys.

Oh, gosh. Oh,

yes. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh my God. Oh my

God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my

God.

Oh, God. Oh, God.

Oh, God.

Oh, God.

Oh, God. Oh, God.

Oh, wow.

Doesn't it feel so good?

He's the best cock.

He does have a really great cock.

Okay, let's keep going on. What do you
want to do now? Maybe I can try the

now.

Oh, God.

It's so good. Fuck.

You're

so good at that.

Oh my God. Oh my God.

Oh, my God.

Let's go this way.

Holy Christ.

Oh, my God.

I love having you both on. It's so
fucking hot.

Oh, God.

Oh,

shit.

Right there. Right there, right there,
right there, right there, right there.

It's so fucking hot.

Mm -hmm.

Oh,

my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh,
my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Yeah, do you like that?

Oh, my.

Do you like his tongue?

It's so good.

Yeah, he's good at that. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Kathy's going to be in Olivia for the
first time.

Yeah. Better than I, Janice, imagined.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, he loves it.

Yeah.

Like that.

Yeah. Just for you.

She loves it. Oh, I love it so much.

I think it's going to be better.

Oh, yeah.

Right there.

Right there.

Oh, my God. Yeah, you're so good. Oh, my
God. You're

so fucking good.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh,

my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

It's so good.

Oh, my God. It's so good.

That's it.

Oh my God. Oh my God.

Oh, my God.

I want to try something

with him. Okay. Okay.

Come on.

Josh, stand up.

I want you to correct that cock.

Right there at home.

Right there.

Keep washing my cock, Olivia.

Make it feel really good.

And then, keep them coming everywhere.

I'm going to show you how much you like
them.

Right there.

We're going to work that up.

We're going to work it up.

He's going to show you how much he likes
you.

Yeah.

Oh, he loves you.

Oh, he loves you. Right there, he's
going to work it up, right?

Yeah.

Right there.

Right there.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Oh, you're getting so close.

Oh, my

God.

I think we made a lot of progress.

So you guys should go get cleaned up and
I'll see you next

week.

Sounds like a plan.

Make it a funnel with a receptionist,
okay? Okay.

Thank you.