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Previously on
Criminal Minds: Evolution...
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-They will let anybody up
on the sixth floor now, huh? -(chuckling)
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MILLIKEN:
Alvez and I
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are retired Army grunts.
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We met in the ARC Program.
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The Army Recovery Care Program.
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We help ill and injured
service members
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reintegrate into civilian life.
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-(whimpers)
-DOCTOR: The tumor's spread.
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There's nothing else we can do.
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(crying)
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I'm sorry.
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Hey. Sorry to interrupt.
Do you have a second?
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If you'll excuse me.
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Did you notice
how he checked you out?
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You look like his wife
who just left him.
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GARRITY:
Welcome to The Sicarius Files.
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I'm your host, Brian Garrity.
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My guest,
the Sicarius Killer himself,
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Elias Voit.
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Whoa!
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(grunts)
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Saved you a whole bunch
of fan letters.
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VOIT:
It's sad how pathetic I am.
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But you know
who's even more pathetic?
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Someone who makes a show
about it.
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And anyone who listens to it.
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LEWIS:
Lance Kingston is the one who took those photos.
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-But he's not the guy
who sent it to you. -Turns out
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your fan stole them.
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VOIT:
Lance, he's just a means to an end.
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He's a sacrificial pawn.
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? ?
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? ?
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(pants) Perimeter breached.
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Ground floor.
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One casualty. Outer corridor.
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BARLOW:
Do you have visual?
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(breathing heavily)
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Negative.
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You motherfuckers!
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HELM:
Reload! Reload!
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On my lead.
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Moving.
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HELM:
Agents under fire.
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We need backup immediately.
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BARLOW:
Copy.
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Backup's on the way.
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WOMAN:
No. (crying)
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MILLIKEN:
Shut up.
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Shut... up.
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WOMAN:
Please, don't.
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(crying continues)
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Hey, you take
one more fucking step...
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Hmm?
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Easy, now. We want to help.
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-I don't want to die.
-No one's gonna get hurt.
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Don't you fucking lie to her.
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Sir, just put the gun down.
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-Look, what's your name?
-Fuck you!
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That's my name.
Why you keeping them from me?
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-Keeping what from you, sir?
-My meds!
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-I need my goddamn meds.
-Okay.
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Okay, put the gun down,
let the woman go, and I...
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Hey!
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You think I don't
fucking see you over there?
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Huh?
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You want this little lady
to die?
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No! Sir, sir.
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-We do not.
-Then give me my goddamn meds!
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BARLOW:
Agent Lowell,
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is target acquired?
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-Negative.
-Reposition. Acquire target.
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-(woman moans)
-HELM: Miss,
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what's your name?
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-Melissa...
-Don't!
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Don't talk to her!
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-You talk to me!
-Command, target has been acquired.
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You understand?!
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Oh-ho-ho!
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I have the shot.
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This guy over here, huh?
This guy over here,
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he wants to kill me so bad
that he can taste it.
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Except, what if he misses, hmm?
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-And this little one
takes the hit. -Sir?
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Enough of this bullshit.
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Okay? Enough!
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Okay?
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I'm gonna count to three,
and either you get me
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-my goddamn meds or I'm gonna
blow her fucking head off. -Please, no. No.
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BARLOW:
Lowell, you're clear.
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Send it.
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MILLIKEN:
Okay?
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One.
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WOMAN:
Just give him what he wants!
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-Two.
-Sir, you kill her,
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-we kill you!
-BARLOW: Take the shot.
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Three!
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(panting)
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What the fuck? What the fuck?
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I took the shot.
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Holy shit. What'd you do?
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Abort, abort!
Abort the exercise!
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(bell rings)
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That was a live fucking round.
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-Holy shit.
-Get O'Connor.
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HELM:
O'Connor!
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We need medical. Stat!
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Secure your weapons now.
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-Magazine check.
-I got blanks.
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Same.
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Billy?
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Billy, we're unarmed.
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Okay? Put down the gun.
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Talk to us, Billy.
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Medical's coming.
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He's dead.
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I took the shot.
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-MAN (over radio): Security.
-Initiate lockdown.
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Now. We have an active shooter.
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This is not a drill.
I repeat, this is not a drill.
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-Copy.
-HELM: Billy, in about 30 seconds,
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the real deal is
barreling in here,
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and they will kill you.
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Hey, you don't want
any more blood on your hands,
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do you, Billy? Please.
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Hand me that weapon.
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Let me help you, Billy, okay?
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Hey.
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I don't fucking get it, man.
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(handcuffs clicking)
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Hey, what were you thinking?
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I had... I had the shot.
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I took the shot.
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ANNOUNCER (over P.A.):
Attention, all personnel.
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This is an emergency.
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You are under lockdown.
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Remain in your location
until further notice.
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This is not a drill.
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I repeat, this is not a drill.
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? ?
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ALVEZ:
"We cannot grow when we are in shame,
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and we can't use shame
to change ourselves or others."
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Bren� Brown.
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So, Tom Milliken was shot?
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During a training exercise
for selectees
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from the Hostage Rescue Team.
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An exercise with live rounds?
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Well, there's
a lot to unpack here,
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which is why Rebecca
has asked the BAU
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to get eyes on it.
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God, does Alvez know yet?
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He's on scene with JJ.
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-(sighs)
-(ringtone playing)
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Tom Milliken
was like family to him.
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-Oh.
-(phone beeps)
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Brian, what have I told you
about phone calls on Saturdays?
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Emily, I wouldn't trouble you
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were it not of
the utmost importance.
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I have, in my possession,
evidence
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of a pre-crime.
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What the fuck is a "pre-crime"?
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-Is that Tara?
-Hi, Brian.
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PRENTISS:
What's with this
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pre-crime?
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It's the thing that happens
before one commits said crime.
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No, I get the term.
What is it you think you have?
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Oh, dare I say, a manifesto,
of sorts.
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Addressed to me by a fan.
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It says, and here I quote,
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"Some may call me a fan,
but He must call me God."
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And since this same
declaration is typed
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over and over again like...
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Do you remember Jack Nicholson's
character in The Shining?
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Like, he starts to go wacko
and he types this one sentence
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over and over and over.
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"All work and no play makes..."
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-Yeah, I've seen the movie.
-Well, you should see this.
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Not only has he repeatedly
typed his affirmation,
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but he's also printed it
into shapes.
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The whole thing is so
wackadoodle, it's like-
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and admittedly,
I'm no profiler-
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he's clearly itching
to do no good.
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Where are you?
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Not far.
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Literally around
the proverbial corner.
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You really should
take a look-see.
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Okay, I'll have a visitor's
pass waiting for you.
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God, when it rains, it pours.
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Okay, look, Dave and I
can handle this for you.
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-Thank you.
-(phone chimes)
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Yeah, I have to get
to the training facility.
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Yeah, yeah.
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MILLIKEN: ...or I'm gonna
blow her fucking head off.
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-One!
-WOMAN: Just give him
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-what he wants!
-Two!
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HELM: Sir, you kill her,
we kill you!
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-Three!
-Who else knows? -(gunshot)
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(sighs) With the lockdown,
we're on a need-to-know basis.
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Director, A.G., president.
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I'd say the news blackout holds
another 24 hours.
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But it's not like we have
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a lot of friends
in this administration.
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An agent-on-agent incident
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like this is exactly
the kind of pretext
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that they can use
to gut the department.
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Peter.
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I am so sorry.
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It's still hard to believe.
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Uh, Emily,
this is Peter O'Connor,
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Milliken's chief of staff.
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Tom spoke very highly of you
and your team.
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He brought you a case
recently, didn't he?
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He did. An equivocal
death investigation.
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And, incredibly,
he's now the subject of one.
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Well, not so equivocal,
I'm afraid.
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Agent Selectee Billy Lowell
fired the fatal shot.
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His weapon was the only one
with live rounds.
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Yes, that seems evident.
However, officially,
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there still needs to be
a determination
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of homicide or accidental death.
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Of course.
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I know it's been a while
since I was in training,
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but is it common now for H.R.T.
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to conduct an exercise
with actors and real weapons?
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Uh, no, it's not common.
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But Tom had his own methodology.
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And carte blanche from up top.
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If he wanted to do something,
he did it.
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In this case,
he felt that the selectees
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were in need of a far more
"real world" experience.
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So, did this exercise include
the entire selectee class?
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No, just Agents Helm,
Barlow and Lowell.
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They were a three-man unit.
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PRENTISS:
Well, Agent Lowell
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is already in custody,
but we are going to need
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to interview
Agents Helm and Barlow, as well.
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-Sure.
-Has the medical examiner
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taken possession of the body?
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Uh, he's doing that right now.
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Excuse me.
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Luke.
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I need a minute.
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I tried to tell him that maybe
he should sit this one out.
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Yeah. (sighs)
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(elevator bell dings)
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LEWIS:
Brian.
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Tara.
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Well, I- what a delight it is
to see you again.
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-Uh, where's Emily?
-ROSSI: She thought it best
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that Tara and I took a look
at what you've got.
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Okay. Um...
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the thing is,
given our previous history,
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wouldn't it be better
if Tara and I were to...
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No. This way.
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LEWIS:
"Some may call me a fan,
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but He must call me God."
258
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What'd I tell you?
259
00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:38,698
(imitating Danny Torrance):
Redrum. Redrum.
260
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When did you get this?
261
00:10:39,933 --> 00:10:41,601
-(normal voice): Yesterday.
-Yesterday?
262
00:10:41,602 --> 00:10:43,202
I opened it today.
263
00:10:44,306 --> 00:10:46,475
Uh, oh.
264
00:10:46,577 --> 00:10:49,308
Postmark
Kensington, Pennsylvania.
265
00:10:50,111 --> 00:10:52,401
You guys have seen this
before, haven't you?
266
00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:54,844
Would you give us a second?
267
00:10:54,979 --> 00:10:56,985
Don't touch anything.
268
00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:05,891
It's virtually identical
to what he sent to Voit.
269
00:11:05,993 --> 00:11:07,864
But why does he send it
to Garrity?
270
00:11:08,699 --> 00:11:10,698
He is listening
to Garrity's podcast.
271
00:11:10,833 --> 00:11:13,434
But the message
still goes to Voit.
272
00:11:13,536 --> 00:11:14,800
Kowtowing son of a bitch
273
00:11:14,902 --> 00:11:18,202
even capitalized
the "H" in "He."
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00:11:18,203 --> 00:11:20,479
Conveying some kind of
godlike status to Voit.
275
00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,175
A status that
this guy wants to share.
276
00:11:24,277 --> 00:11:27,209
Okay, so, what?
He's trying to prod Garrity
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into getting Voit
back on his podcast?
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00:11:29,112 --> 00:11:30,522
He hopes, on bended knee,
279
00:11:30,624 --> 00:11:32,914
that, what, Voit's
gonna call him a god, too?
280
00:11:32,987 --> 00:11:36,189
Yeah, old god
crowns the new one.
281
00:11:37,021 --> 00:11:38,763
What are you thinking?
282
00:11:39,961 --> 00:11:42,701
You're not gonna like it,
but, um...
283
00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:47,438
...we need to take this to Voit.
284
00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:49,373
Of course we need
to take it to Voit.
285
00:11:49,508 --> 00:11:51,078
I know we need to take it
to Voit.
286
00:11:51,201 --> 00:11:52,909
Wait, why would I not like that?
287
00:11:52,910 --> 00:11:54,745
You're the one that doesn't
want to be around the guy.
288
00:11:54,746 --> 00:11:56,681
But you're the one
who has to make sure
289
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that Garrity doesn't feel
that we're shining him on.
290
00:12:00,177 --> 00:12:02,212
We're completely shining him on.
291
00:12:02,213 --> 00:12:03,919
But we can't let him
share what he knows.
292
00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,151
Yeah, you're right.
I know it. I know.
293
00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:08,650
I just... just because
I look like the guy's ex
294
00:12:08,718 --> 00:12:11,428
doesn't mean that I have to be
the go-to strategy here.
295
00:12:11,529 --> 00:12:14,590
Okay, I'm open to another.
296
00:12:15,433 --> 00:12:16,599
I don't have another.
297
00:12:16,735 --> 00:12:19,028
Look, I'm not asking you
to babysit him.
298
00:12:19,130 --> 00:12:21,405
Just, uh, tell him to go home
299
00:12:21,507 --> 00:12:23,699
and wait
for further instructions.
300
00:12:23,767 --> 00:12:28,076
Let him feel like he's part of
some special investigation.
301
00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:30,509
He trusts you.
302
00:12:30,577 --> 00:12:31,906
(sighs)
303
00:12:32,009 --> 00:12:34,082
(sighs) Fine.
304
00:12:36,696 --> 00:12:41,788
We really appreciate you
bringing this to our attention.
305
00:12:41,789 --> 00:12:44,092
You free later tonight?
306
00:12:44,093 --> 00:12:45,925
Excuse me?
307
00:12:45,926 --> 00:12:48,030
Free. For, like, dinner, drinks?
308
00:12:48,031 --> 00:12:50,635
I mean, I know the timing
isn't great, in the middle of
309
00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:52,368
a hunt for
a serial killer and all.
310
00:12:52,437 --> 00:12:53,970
I'm married, Brian.
311
00:12:55,174 --> 00:12:56,975
When did...
312
00:12:57,077 --> 00:12:58,407
Mazel tov.
313
00:12:58,509 --> 00:12:59,637
-Thank you.
-Yeah.
314
00:12:59,739 --> 00:13:01,044
Lucky guy.
315
00:13:01,146 --> 00:13:02,781
Gal.
316
00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,279
Oh.
317
00:13:05,381 --> 00:13:06,613
Yeah.
318
00:13:06,715 --> 00:13:08,618
So, let's focus here.
319
00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,147
Brian, the BAU needs you
to help us start
320
00:13:12,283 --> 00:13:14,721
a special covert investigation.
321
00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:16,288
-Covert?
-That is right.
322
00:13:16,390 --> 00:13:20,259
So, what were gonna need you
to do is go home... now
323
00:13:20,361 --> 00:13:22,771
and wait for this unsub
to reach out to you again.
324
00:13:22,772 --> 00:13:24,733
And when they do,
you're gonna call me,
325
00:13:24,734 --> 00:13:26,398
and we'll proceed from there.
326
00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:29,339
Call you.
327
00:13:29,474 --> 00:13:31,671
Yes, that's-that's right.
328
00:13:31,806 --> 00:13:33,372
I don't have your number.
329
00:13:34,271 --> 00:13:36,280
I'll give you my work number.
330
00:13:36,382 --> 00:13:38,509
It's the switchboard.
331
00:13:54,467 --> 00:13:56,527
Do you want to talk about it?
332
00:13:59,871 --> 00:14:02,699
It's not good
to constipate emotions.
333
00:14:03,502 --> 00:14:06,240
I don't know why I just
said it like that. Um...
334
00:14:09,012 --> 00:14:12,649
But, come on,
I don't have to tell you.
335
00:14:12,751 --> 00:14:14,621
That the deeper
you push down grief,
336
00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,846
the more painful
it's gonna become.
337
00:14:16,949 --> 00:14:18,551
You just did.
338
00:14:18,687 --> 00:14:19,820
Just did what?
339
00:14:19,922 --> 00:14:22,286
You said
you're not gonna tell me,
340
00:14:22,388 --> 00:14:24,258
-and then you did.
-Oh, don't deflect.
341
00:14:24,295 --> 00:14:26,191
I...
342
00:14:26,293 --> 00:14:29,729
Just, it would be good
to talk to somebody
343
00:14:29,831 --> 00:14:32,367
who is in tune with you.
344
00:14:32,469 --> 00:14:34,070
Namely moi.
345
00:14:35,868 --> 00:14:37,271
I see you.
346
00:14:38,101 --> 00:14:39,769
I really do.
347
00:14:39,871 --> 00:14:41,771
I know.
348
00:14:41,873 --> 00:14:43,277
You do.
349
00:14:51,689 --> 00:14:53,481
I know what you're going to say.
350
00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:55,557
That, uh,
I'm too close to Milliken,
351
00:14:55,558 --> 00:14:56,857
that I can't be impartial.
352
00:14:56,858 --> 00:14:58,787
You're on the case.
353
00:15:00,991 --> 00:15:04,867
Now, I only want to remind you,
go where the evidence takes you.
354
00:15:04,969 --> 00:15:07,133
Don't get out over your skis
on this one
355
00:15:07,134 --> 00:15:09,364
because of your relationship
with the victim.
356
00:15:09,365 --> 00:15:11,041
Tyler's waiting for you.
357
00:15:12,211 --> 00:15:13,406
Thanks.
358
00:15:17,415 --> 00:15:19,247
(door opens)
359
00:15:32,059 --> 00:15:34,264
-One!
-Just give him
360
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,623
what he wants!
361
00:15:35,624 --> 00:15:37,568
-Two!
-Sir, you kill her, we kill you!
362
00:15:37,569 --> 00:15:39,333
-Three!
-(gunshot)
363
00:15:44,540 --> 00:15:45,834
Why?
364
00:15:49,072 --> 00:15:50,740
Three!
365
00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,988
Why?
366
00:16:00,421 --> 00:16:02,992
You know we're gonna sit here
and watch this
367
00:16:03,094 --> 00:16:06,855
over and over
until you answer my question.
368
00:16:09,763 --> 00:16:11,827
I had...
369
00:16:13,801 --> 00:16:15,534
Excuse me?
370
00:16:17,234 --> 00:16:19,637
I had the shot.
371
00:16:20,527 --> 00:16:23,780
Yeah, I had the shot.
I took the shot.
372
00:16:23,781 --> 00:16:26,182
Yeah, you sure as fuck did.
373
00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:33,130
Why do you think Agent Lowell
refuses to say anything
374
00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:35,522
except, "I had the shot.
I took the shot."?
375
00:16:36,325 --> 00:16:39,157
-Like it's some kind of mantra.
-Jesus Christ.
376
00:16:39,260 --> 00:16:40,890
It... it's something
Milliken was
377
00:16:40,962 --> 00:16:42,496
hammering into our heads.
378
00:16:42,631 --> 00:16:43,892
What?
379
00:16:43,893 --> 00:16:47,170
So, Milliken designed
this no-win H.R.T. scenario,
380
00:16:47,171 --> 00:16:50,569
where the hostage taker,
he can't be taken alive.
381
00:16:50,671 --> 00:16:53,470
Now, Billy, Joey and I
were on the same team together,
382
00:16:53,471 --> 00:16:55,145
so we'd each have a go
at running point.
383
00:16:55,146 --> 00:16:57,478
You mean, being the guy
taking the kill shot?
384
00:16:57,547 --> 00:16:59,276
Yeah.
385
00:16:59,344 --> 00:17:01,183
Joey and I, we had no problem.
386
00:17:01,184 --> 00:17:03,351
We could run through this thing
with our eyes closed.
387
00:17:03,352 --> 00:17:05,782
Especially since we were
handling your standard
388
00:17:05,783 --> 00:17:08,457
laser pistols
and aiming at target dummies,
389
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,190
but... (sighs)
390
00:17:10,292 --> 00:17:12,342
I don't know
what was going on with Billy.
391
00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:16,126
Every single time,
he couldn't do it.
392
00:17:16,195 --> 00:17:18,063
He'd just freeze up.
393
00:17:18,199 --> 00:17:20,168
Which totally set off Milliken.
394
00:17:20,236 --> 00:17:22,704
(chuckles)
I've seen Milliken's short fuse
395
00:17:22,806 --> 00:17:24,066
up close and personal.
396
00:17:24,202 --> 00:17:25,636
It's not pretty.
397
00:17:25,738 --> 00:17:29,270
Hey, that was his job,
was to get agents field ready.
398
00:17:29,372 --> 00:17:30,872
Yeah, no doubt.
399
00:17:30,974 --> 00:17:34,746
That's why Billy was driving
Milliken batshit crazy.
400
00:17:34,848 --> 00:17:36,615
(sighs)
401
00:17:37,589 --> 00:17:40,084
Agent Lowell.
402
00:17:40,186 --> 00:17:41,917
Why the hesitation?
403
00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:45,263
Lives are on the line here, son.
You do understand that?
404
00:17:45,365 --> 00:17:46,415
Yes. Yeah.
405
00:17:46,416 --> 00:17:47,763
MILLIKEN:
If you want to watch,
406
00:17:47,764 --> 00:17:49,232
buy a ticket.
407
00:17:51,868 --> 00:17:53,898
Yes, sir. Sir, but...
408
00:17:54,001 --> 00:17:55,532
No more excuses.
409
00:17:55,601 --> 00:18:00,408
If you have the shot,
you take the shot.
410
00:18:00,409 --> 00:18:02,238
Yes.
411
00:18:02,239 --> 00:18:04,074
Yes, what?
412
00:18:04,176 --> 00:18:06,150
-Yes, sir.
-No.
413
00:18:06,917 --> 00:18:09,049
No, say it. "I have the shot,
414
00:18:09,118 --> 00:18:10,415
-I take the shot."
-I have...
415
00:18:10,416 --> 00:18:12,122
-I have the shot...
-I have the shot...
416
00:18:12,123 --> 00:18:14,886
-...I take the shot.
-...I take the shot.
417
00:18:14,989 --> 00:18:16,325
I take the shot.
418
00:18:17,254 --> 00:18:19,090
All right.
419
00:18:19,192 --> 00:18:20,692
Let's run it again.
420
00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:23,961
BARLOW:
Yeah. We ran it
421
00:18:24,097 --> 00:18:26,368
again and again.
422
00:18:26,369 --> 00:18:28,672
And that's when we went
from using the dummy targets
423
00:18:28,673 --> 00:18:29,872
to role players.
424
00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:33,606
Laser pistols to actual guns.
425
00:18:34,513 --> 00:18:35,806
With blanks.
426
00:18:37,049 --> 00:18:40,749
But upping the ante
did not help Billy.
427
00:18:40,818 --> 00:18:44,385
He was fucking hopeless.
428
00:18:44,386 --> 00:18:46,114
I mean, personally,
I thought it was only gonna be
429
00:18:46,115 --> 00:18:48,858
a matter of time before
he completely lost his shit.
430
00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,928
Being reprimanded
is one thing...
431
00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:53,693
Oh, it went way beyond
being reprimanded.
432
00:18:53,795 --> 00:18:55,958
(panting)
433
00:18:57,969 --> 00:18:59,631
Lowell, you are clear. Send it.
434
00:18:59,733 --> 00:19:02,035
-One!
-Just give him what he wants, please.
435
00:19:02,137 --> 00:19:03,433
-Two!
-Take the shot.
436
00:19:03,535 --> 00:19:05,069
Sir, you kill her, we kill you.
437
00:19:05,171 --> 00:19:06,705
(crying):
No!
438
00:19:07,910 --> 00:19:08,976
Take the shot.
439
00:19:09,111 --> 00:19:10,647
-Three!
-(trigger clicks)
440
00:19:10,749 --> 00:19:12,407
-(bell rings)
-(sighs)
441
00:19:12,509 --> 00:19:16,319
Goddamn it! Goddamn it.
442
00:19:17,449 --> 00:19:19,019
Are you fucking kidding me?
443
00:19:19,155 --> 00:19:21,353
You got another hostage killed.
444
00:19:21,455 --> 00:19:23,685
What the actual fuck
do I have to do
445
00:19:23,821 --> 00:19:26,464
to get it through
your thick skull, huh?
446
00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:27,759
I have the shot.
447
00:19:29,866 --> 00:19:31,565
Should I take it?
448
00:19:33,802 --> 00:19:35,135
You...
449
00:19:35,204 --> 00:19:37,538
-you take the shot.
-Bingo.
450
00:19:39,843 --> 00:19:41,740
Run it again.
451
00:19:45,008 --> 00:19:47,845
And don't think
I'm not ready for your D.O.R.
452
00:19:49,247 --> 00:19:51,520
(bell rings)
453
00:19:51,622 --> 00:19:53,048
Let's go!
454
00:19:54,823 --> 00:19:57,156
D.O.R.
455
00:19:57,258 --> 00:19:59,122
You know what that stands for.
456
00:19:59,225 --> 00:20:00,858
I know you do.
457
00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:05,533
Drop on request.
458
00:20:08,135 --> 00:20:09,566
Hey, I get it.
459
00:20:09,702 --> 00:20:12,335
All right?
Milliken's kicking your ass,
460
00:20:12,437 --> 00:20:14,839
threatening your future.
461
00:20:16,046 --> 00:20:17,748
You couldn't take it anymore.
462
00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:19,707
What else you gonna do, right?
463
00:20:19,843 --> 00:20:23,650
I shot him,
but I-I didn't kill him.
464
00:20:24,722 --> 00:20:27,251
Hey! Billy!
465
00:20:27,386 --> 00:20:30,085
Stop fucking with me.
466
00:20:31,721 --> 00:20:33,756
We're going through your locker.
467
00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,396
Once we match the bullets
in your stash
468
00:20:36,531 --> 00:20:38,601
with the ones
that were in the magazine...
469
00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:40,532
I had blanks.
470
00:20:40,601 --> 00:20:43,171
Just like everybody else.
I swear to God.
471
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,309
-But, clearly, you didn't.
-I know!
472
00:20:47,978 --> 00:20:49,536
I don't understand.
473
00:20:49,605 --> 00:20:51,412
Milliken, he-he
474
00:20:51,514 --> 00:20:53,684
handed out the guns himself.
And the blanks.
475
00:20:53,715 --> 00:20:56,479
And we double-checked
everything before we started.
476
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,847
You're saying you were using
477
00:20:57,848 --> 00:20:59,051
Milliken's weapons
and fake ammo?
478
00:20:59,052 --> 00:21:00,185
Yes.
479
00:21:00,287 --> 00:21:01,516
-Stop lying!
-I'm not.
480
00:21:01,584 --> 00:21:03,921
Check it. I swear.
481
00:21:09,233 --> 00:21:11,993
Agent Lowell,
during the exercise,
482
00:21:12,095 --> 00:21:14,639
this no-win scenario
involved an active shooter
483
00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,140
in a business office.
484
00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:17,937
But your fellow selectees
mentioned that Milliken
485
00:21:17,938 --> 00:21:20,707
had gone a bit off-script,
making himself out to be this...
486
00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:22,938
Crazy guy being denied
his medication. Yeah.
487
00:21:24,645 --> 00:21:27,117
Were you or any
of the selectees aware
488
00:21:27,219 --> 00:21:29,449
of Milliken's own use
of antidepressants?
489
00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:32,048
Had he mentioned it?
490
00:21:32,924 --> 00:21:34,490
Hey, hang on a second.
491
00:21:35,326 --> 00:21:39,088
I want to talk to you
in the other room.
492
00:21:46,399 --> 00:21:47,598
What are you doing?
493
00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:50,038
Tom told me
he was taking citalopram.
494
00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:52,337
So what? It's not relevant.
495
00:21:52,439 --> 00:21:54,042
Luke, of course it's relevant.
496
00:21:54,043 --> 00:21:55,443
Tom's behavior seems as if
497
00:21:55,444 --> 00:21:56,979
it were becoming
increasingly erratic.
498
00:21:56,980 --> 00:21:58,314
No, it sounds like
499
00:21:58,416 --> 00:22:00,609
you're looking for an excuse,
not a motive.
500
00:22:00,677 --> 00:22:02,716
PRENTISS:
Luke, Tyler.
501
00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:05,019
Where are we?
502
00:22:05,154 --> 00:22:06,288
We got no confession,
503
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:08,683
but we're looking
at intentional homicide.
504
00:22:08,819 --> 00:22:10,327
I'm not sure it wasn't suicide.
505
00:22:10,328 --> 00:22:12,297
-Suicide?
What are you taking about? -Listen to me.
506
00:22:12,298 --> 00:22:14,264
If those guns
were under Milliken's control,
507
00:22:14,265 --> 00:22:15,924
and if his behavior
was affected,
508
00:22:15,925 --> 00:22:17,735
either by misuse
of prescriptions
509
00:22:17,736 --> 00:22:19,299
or ignoring them,
then it's possible...
510
00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,201
No, it's not possible.
511
00:22:21,202 --> 00:22:22,702
It's absolutely not possible.
512
00:22:22,703 --> 00:22:26,375
Ballistics came back
on the recovered bullet.
513
00:22:26,477 --> 00:22:29,237
It does match
Milliken's own service weapon.
514
00:22:32,345 --> 00:22:33,649
GREEN:
Yeah.
515
00:22:33,718 --> 00:22:35,319
And...
516
00:22:35,388 --> 00:22:37,953
I think he wanted Agent Lowell
to take that shot.
517
00:22:38,022 --> 00:22:39,423
ALVEZ:
You think?
518
00:22:40,287 --> 00:22:41,818
Tom spent his life
519
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,395
helping vets with
mental health struggles.
520
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:47,180
-He would never
take his own life. -PRENTISS: Hold on.
521
00:22:47,224 --> 00:22:51,559
As I see it right now,
you have two viable theories.
522
00:22:51,695 --> 00:22:54,372
Get it down to one.
523
00:23:01,801 --> 00:23:05,874
MAN (over P.A.):
Strike team to landing 224.
524
00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:07,218
Strike team to landing 224.
525
00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:09,618
LEWIS:
So, you think it's another test?
526
00:23:11,551 --> 00:23:13,323
Yeah, but not just for us.
527
00:23:13,324 --> 00:23:15,624
He's gauging the levels
of his own restraint.
528
00:23:15,625 --> 00:23:17,821
And you think that's why
he sent it to Garrity
529
00:23:17,822 --> 00:23:19,387
-and not to you.
-For some reason,
530
00:23:19,388 --> 00:23:22,628
he's trying to slow himself
down, and if he can't,
531
00:23:22,629 --> 00:23:24,664
it's gonna cost
somebody else their life.
532
00:23:24,665 --> 00:23:27,638
Assuming he hasn't
killed already.
533
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,336
He may have.
534
00:23:29,439 --> 00:23:31,836
And now he wants to be
called God
535
00:23:31,938 --> 00:23:34,836
because he feels he has
the power to show mercy.
536
00:23:34,939 --> 00:23:36,937
To choose
who lives and who dies.
537
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:38,772
-Mm-hmm.
-ROSSI: But not before
538
00:23:38,874 --> 00:23:40,374
you pass him the torch.
539
00:23:40,476 --> 00:23:44,179
That's why he capitalizes
the "H" when he references you.
540
00:23:44,315 --> 00:23:47,582
Without your seal of approval,
he won't feel that, um,
541
00:23:47,684 --> 00:23:50,217
special something.
542
00:23:50,353 --> 00:23:54,121
That may be another reason
to send it to Garrity.
543
00:23:54,189 --> 00:23:56,059
Trying to get me
on the podcast again.
544
00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:59,365
Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
545
00:23:59,467 --> 00:24:01,732
Okay, but maybe if he heard
546
00:24:01,834 --> 00:24:04,308
someone else's voice
on the podcast,
547
00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:06,475
it would engage him enough
so that he gets
548
00:24:06,476 --> 00:24:08,645
careless enough
to reveal himself.
549
00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:10,277
Okay.
550
00:24:10,379 --> 00:24:12,715
-Who are you thinking?
-Me.
551
00:24:12,817 --> 00:24:14,408
Yes.
552
00:24:15,314 --> 00:24:16,819
No.
553
00:24:17,589 --> 00:24:20,458
If he's my fan, he's trying
to walk in my footsteps,
554
00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:22,951
which means he's read
every single one of your books.
555
00:24:22,952 --> 00:24:24,585
Hey, they're not how-to books.
556
00:24:24,721 --> 00:24:27,330
He respects you.
557
00:24:27,331 --> 00:24:29,259
You led the team
that led to my capture.
558
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:32,433
If he hears your voice live
on Brian's podcast,
559
00:24:32,568 --> 00:24:34,536
I don't know
how he can not reach out.
560
00:24:34,638 --> 00:24:38,509
You are the only person
he might surrender to.
561
00:24:41,703 --> 00:24:43,173
I mean...
562
00:24:44,742 --> 00:24:46,616
...because he trusts you.
563
00:24:47,514 --> 00:24:48,679
You know I'm right.
564
00:24:48,747 --> 00:24:50,688
Otherwise, you wouldn't be here.
565
00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:52,446
(sighs)
566
00:24:57,787 --> 00:24:58,925
(knocks on door)
567
00:24:59,061 --> 00:25:00,153
Hey.
568
00:25:00,255 --> 00:25:02,065
-Sorry to interrupt.
-Not a problem.
569
00:25:02,858 --> 00:25:03,925
What do you need?
570
00:25:04,061 --> 00:25:06,194
In reviewing
the incident reports,
571
00:25:06,195 --> 00:25:08,472
we weren't able to find one
describing Milliken
572
00:25:08,473 --> 00:25:10,767
pulling his service weapon
on Agent Lowell.
573
00:25:10,903 --> 00:25:12,533
I wish I could say
I'm surprised.
574
00:25:12,608 --> 00:25:15,105
-Was a report filed?
-Not to me, but
575
00:25:15,207 --> 00:25:18,547
I am now hearing rumors
that many anonymous reports
576
00:25:18,548 --> 00:25:20,613
sent to the Office
of Professional Responsibility
577
00:25:20,614 --> 00:25:21,877
may have been slow-rolled.
578
00:25:21,878 --> 00:25:24,251
Friends in high places?
579
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,447
It's all hearsay, right?
580
00:25:26,448 --> 00:25:28,960
All I know
from personal experience
581
00:25:28,961 --> 00:25:30,992
is he got results.
582
00:25:30,993 --> 00:25:33,654
If he passed you,
you were the best of the best.
583
00:25:33,655 --> 00:25:36,695
So, you're saying they were
willing to look the other way
584
00:25:36,797 --> 00:25:39,496
if he crossed the line
now and again?
585
00:25:39,632 --> 00:25:41,334
You're saying that.
586
00:25:41,436 --> 00:25:43,266
But I wouldn't disagree.
587
00:25:49,672 --> 00:25:52,374
? ?
588
00:25:56,715 --> 00:25:58,095
(billiard balls clacking)
589
00:25:58,113 --> 00:26:00,252
(sighs) It's this new class.
590
00:26:00,354 --> 00:26:01,489
Killing me.
591
00:26:01,591 --> 00:26:04,092
It's triggering
all my old habits.
592
00:26:04,161 --> 00:26:06,425
I'm just not...
593
00:26:06,527 --> 00:26:07,793
-I don't know.
-No.
594
00:26:07,862 --> 00:26:10,757
You don't get to end on,
"I don't know."
595
00:26:10,859 --> 00:26:12,198
Talk to me.
596
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:13,760
It's Cindy.
597
00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:15,232
She's not happy.
598
00:26:16,174 --> 00:26:18,000
Come on, you guys...
599
00:26:18,102 --> 00:26:20,501
-you've been through worse.
-I know.
600
00:26:22,339 --> 00:26:24,843
That's the thing
with getting older and wiser.
601
00:26:24,979 --> 00:26:27,209
You start to realize
you don't have to spend
602
00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,279
the rest of your life
putting up with shit.
603
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,547
Oh, so you-you think
you're putting up with...
604
00:26:31,682 --> 00:26:32,732
No, not me.
605
00:26:32,825 --> 00:26:33,875
Cindy.
606
00:26:33,886 --> 00:26:35,283
-Oh.
-Come on, she has spent
607
00:26:35,352 --> 00:26:38,222
the better part of her life
dealing with mine.
608
00:26:40,023 --> 00:26:41,625
You guys going to counseling?
609
00:26:41,694 --> 00:26:43,733
Yeah, twice a week.
610
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,968
Still...
611
00:26:47,037 --> 00:26:48,669
it's me.
612
00:26:48,738 --> 00:26:51,340
I don't know
what the hell is going on.
613
00:26:51,442 --> 00:26:52,942
I'm bringing work home with me.
614
00:26:52,943 --> 00:26:55,277
I'm barking orders at her
like she's one of my trainees.
615
00:26:55,278 --> 00:26:56,911
It is bad, Luke.
616
00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:02,375
Look, a wise man once told me
that it's one thing
617
00:27:02,511 --> 00:27:05,318
to identify the problem,
and it's another thing
618
00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:06,548
to do the work.
619
00:27:06,650 --> 00:27:07,884
Words.
620
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:10,958
Yeah, until you put them
into action.
621
00:27:12,491 --> 00:27:14,254
I just...
622
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:17,494
don't know what I would do
without her.
623
00:27:17,562 --> 00:27:18,834
You know?
624
00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:25,676
Look, maybe you need
some time off.
625
00:27:30,247 --> 00:27:31,440
You're empty.
626
00:27:32,943 --> 00:27:35,510
-Want another?
-No.
627
00:27:36,517 --> 00:27:37,952
No, I'm good.
628
00:27:38,847 --> 00:27:40,222
Come on.
629
00:27:40,324 --> 00:27:42,616
One more round. On me.
630
00:27:44,343 --> 00:27:46,363
Sure.
631
00:27:46,364 --> 00:27:48,831
Attaboy. That's the spirit.
632
00:28:03,905 --> 00:28:05,544
(sighs)
633
00:28:05,646 --> 00:28:06,945
Hey, so it looks like
634
00:28:07,047 --> 00:28:10,820
we have to reinterview
all the selectees.
635
00:28:13,288 --> 00:28:15,055
You okay?
636
00:28:17,954 --> 00:28:20,192
It's not fair.
637
00:28:21,397 --> 00:28:22,933
Death rarely is.
638
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:24,834
Not death.
639
00:28:26,598 --> 00:28:28,068
Grief.
640
00:28:33,804 --> 00:28:35,372
I'm sorry.
641
00:28:36,705 --> 00:28:39,346
You're the last person
I should be saying that to.
642
00:28:39,448 --> 00:28:41,478
No, I... I get it.
643
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:42,876
Ah, I...
644
00:28:43,712 --> 00:28:46,302
I don't want you to think
that I'm trying to compare
645
00:28:46,385 --> 00:28:49,520
what you went through
to what I'm going through.
646
00:28:49,655 --> 00:28:51,588
Luke, stop.
647
00:28:51,691 --> 00:28:53,926
I understand.
648
00:28:54,028 --> 00:28:56,899
Everyone experiences grief
in their own way.
649
00:28:57,965 --> 00:29:00,330
I mean, Jesus,
it's been over a year,
650
00:29:00,465 --> 00:29:05,706
and not a day goes by
where I don't see Will's eyes
651
00:29:05,808 --> 00:29:08,240
or his sense of humor
in the boys.
652
00:29:09,273 --> 00:29:12,541
It's, um...
it's, uh, fucking brutal.
653
00:29:14,186 --> 00:29:16,549
Grief is not kind.
654
00:29:16,684 --> 00:29:19,350
Or rational or-or fair.
655
00:29:20,753 --> 00:29:22,691
But trust me,
656
00:29:22,827 --> 00:29:27,158
if you don't give yourself
the space to feel,
657
00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:30,526
if you cut yourself off
from those feelings...
658
00:29:32,095 --> 00:29:33,661
...it gets way worse.
659
00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:36,972
Yeah.
660
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:39,238
So?
661
00:29:40,207 --> 00:29:46,080
What can we do
to give you the space you need?
662
00:29:50,679 --> 00:29:52,909
I thought I could
take the lead on this case,
663
00:29:52,949 --> 00:29:55,116
but I, uh...
664
00:29:55,218 --> 00:29:57,390
I need you and Tyler to...
665
00:29:57,493 --> 00:29:59,227
have my back.
666
00:29:59,329 --> 00:30:00,798
We got you.
667
00:30:04,059 --> 00:30:05,334
We got you.
668
00:30:05,402 --> 00:30:07,027
ALVEZ:
Thanks.
669
00:30:07,096 --> 00:30:08,938
(door closes)
670
00:30:15,899 --> 00:30:21,579
JJ: Agent Barlow, apart
from his actions during training,
671
00:30:21,580 --> 00:30:24,290
what else can you tell us
about Milliken's behavior?
672
00:30:24,291 --> 00:30:27,182
I didn't really spend
any time with him
673
00:30:27,183 --> 00:30:29,453
outside of the exercises.
674
00:30:29,555 --> 00:30:33,586
What about before briefings
or after training exercises?
675
00:30:33,587 --> 00:30:35,830
Maybe you checked in
during his office hours?
676
00:30:35,831 --> 00:30:38,330
Well, yeah, sometimes, I guess.
677
00:30:38,331 --> 00:30:41,266
I suppose it was true
that he was all
678
00:30:41,267 --> 00:30:43,100
fire and brimstone
during the training,
679
00:30:43,101 --> 00:30:45,799
but lately, when he was alone...
680
00:30:47,611 --> 00:30:49,506
...it started to get weird.
681
00:30:50,775 --> 00:30:52,146
How so?
682
00:30:53,744 --> 00:30:56,953
Well, I went to see him
about this procedural question.
683
00:30:58,984 --> 00:31:00,346
And I walked in there.
684
00:31:00,448 --> 00:31:02,285
He was sitting behind his desk.
685
00:31:02,387 --> 00:31:04,887
And he didn't see me,
but I saw him.
686
00:31:04,989 --> 00:31:07,055
(Milliken crying)
687
00:31:07,157 --> 00:31:09,823
And he was... crying.
688
00:31:13,299 --> 00:31:15,132
HELM:
Yeah, Joey told me about it.
689
00:31:15,234 --> 00:31:17,670
He said he was,
like, ugly crying.
690
00:31:17,805 --> 00:31:19,238
It didn't make any sense.
691
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:22,335
I mean, yeah, we were
prepping for our next eval,
692
00:31:22,437 --> 00:31:23,944
but it was a low-stress day.
693
00:31:24,046 --> 00:31:26,543
Clearly, something
got under his skin.
694
00:31:28,652 --> 00:31:29,983
Let me tell you something.
695
00:31:30,085 --> 00:31:32,412
I've known Tom Milliken
for over 20 years.
696
00:31:32,514 --> 00:31:33,784
-I've never...
-Look, Luke...
697
00:31:33,822 --> 00:31:35,120
...never once seen him cry.
698
00:31:35,189 --> 00:31:37,352
Yeah, well, neither have I,
technically.
699
00:31:37,454 --> 00:31:39,429
Okay?
It's just what Joey told me.
700
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:40,828
Joey also couldn't tell us
701
00:31:40,829 --> 00:31:42,694
what was troubling
Agent Milliken.
702
00:31:42,695 --> 00:31:44,231
Can you?
703
00:31:45,228 --> 00:31:47,029
Okay, not for sure.
704
00:31:47,131 --> 00:31:49,801
There was a rumor...
705
00:31:49,903 --> 00:31:51,535
his wife was leaving him.
706
00:31:52,574 --> 00:31:53,707
Cindy? Nah.
707
00:31:53,809 --> 00:31:56,336
-Is that his wife?
-Yeah.
708
00:31:56,438 --> 00:31:58,671
Look, like I said, I can't say
709
00:31:58,672 --> 00:32:01,015
100% for certain
that his wife was leaving him,
710
00:32:01,016 --> 00:32:03,712
it was just something
I overheard.
711
00:32:05,291 --> 00:32:07,056
Are you okay?
712
00:32:16,367 --> 00:32:17,597
(chuckles)
713
00:32:17,699 --> 00:32:19,134
(knock on door)
714
00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:22,534
Cindy.
715
00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:23,868
Luke.
716
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:25,342
It's good to see you.
717
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:28,110
-I'm so sorry.
-Mm.
718
00:32:33,347 --> 00:32:35,814
We took this the day
he retired from the Army.
719
00:32:35,916 --> 00:32:37,449
(laughs softly) Yeah.
720
00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:41,183
Yeah, I remember those days.
721
00:32:41,285 --> 00:32:43,316
New deployment every six months.
722
00:32:43,418 --> 00:32:45,123
Long phone calls home.
723
00:32:45,225 --> 00:32:47,387
-Or no phone calls for weeks.
-Yeah.
724
00:32:47,489 --> 00:32:48,895
CINDY:
After he retired,
725
00:32:48,896 --> 00:32:50,494
he said we'd finally
settle down.
726
00:32:50,495 --> 00:32:53,333
Buy a house,
stop moving from base to base.
727
00:32:54,396 --> 00:32:57,369
You know, he told me that
728
00:32:57,438 --> 00:33:01,238
the best decision he ever made
was joining the FBI.
729
00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:03,173
Said it felt like
you two finally...
730
00:33:03,241 --> 00:33:05,744
Finally had time for each other.
731
00:33:05,879 --> 00:33:07,545
-Yeah.
-Right.
732
00:33:08,784 --> 00:33:13,121
Sometimes the people
that help others the most,
733
00:33:13,122 --> 00:33:16,620
they just can't seem
to help themselves.
734
00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:19,755
I'm not sure what you mean.
735
00:33:23,426 --> 00:33:24,986
Cindy, the BAU is in the process
736
00:33:24,987 --> 00:33:27,233
of putting the pieces together
of what happened,
737
00:33:27,234 --> 00:33:29,733
and some information
has come to light
738
00:33:29,802 --> 00:33:34,875
that suggest Tom might have been
acting out self-destructively.
739
00:33:34,943 --> 00:33:38,213
That, uh, maybe he was suicidal.
740
00:33:39,108 --> 00:33:40,747
Tom?
741
00:33:40,849 --> 00:33:42,079
Okay, who told you that?
742
00:33:42,148 --> 00:33:43,948
I'm not at liberty to say.
743
00:33:44,050 --> 00:33:46,121
Absolutely not, Luke.
744
00:33:46,122 --> 00:33:48,384
And I'm not just saying that
because I'm his wife.
745
00:33:48,385 --> 00:33:51,590
Cindy, were you leaving him?
746
00:33:51,659 --> 00:33:53,125
Wow.
747
00:33:53,227 --> 00:33:56,466
I-I wouldn't ask
if I didn't have to.
748
00:33:56,602 --> 00:33:57,967
I-I don't even believe it.
749
00:33:58,069 --> 00:34:01,201
It's just that one of
Tom's trainees saw him
750
00:34:01,303 --> 00:34:05,274
here in his office, alone,
crying hysterically.
751
00:34:05,343 --> 00:34:06,802
Oh.
752
00:34:06,904 --> 00:34:12,181
One man sees another man crying,
and so he must be suicidal?
753
00:34:13,577 --> 00:34:15,447
Luke, you're
a behavioral profiler.
754
00:34:15,477 --> 00:34:17,120
You should know better.
755
00:34:22,887 --> 00:34:27,988
I know Tom was struggling with
how much he was hurting you.
756
00:34:29,994 --> 00:34:31,435
Yes.
757
00:34:31,503 --> 00:34:33,092
Yes, 30-plus years
758
00:34:33,194 --> 00:34:37,106
of Tom burying his feelings
was killing our relationship.
759
00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:40,836
But Tom was nothing
if not "never say die," right?
760
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,306
I mean, he found
a new therapist,
761
00:34:45,408 --> 00:34:47,212
he got on new medication,
762
00:34:47,213 --> 00:34:48,818
and finally
he was getting in touch
763
00:34:48,819 --> 00:34:50,446
with his emotions, his truth.
764
00:34:50,515 --> 00:34:52,445
And yes, recently,
it made him cry,
765
00:34:52,547 --> 00:34:53,983
which was good for him.
766
00:34:54,085 --> 00:34:55,884
And for us.
767
00:34:57,126 --> 00:34:59,091
So, you weren't
getting a divorce?
768
00:34:59,194 --> 00:35:00,861
As long as he was
doing the work,
769
00:35:00,963 --> 00:35:03,199
I was never gonna leave him.
770
00:35:04,868 --> 00:35:07,060
And I made sure he knew that.
771
00:35:09,144 --> 00:35:13,474
Well, so, then,
as far as you're concerned,
772
00:35:13,475 --> 00:35:18,071
the only thing Tom was
having trouble with was work?
773
00:35:19,041 --> 00:35:23,216
For men like Tom, who felt
a profound responsibility
774
00:35:23,318 --> 00:35:26,051
to prepare the next generation
of warriors,
775
00:35:26,153 --> 00:35:27,990
he had a hard time deciding
776
00:35:28,092 --> 00:35:31,227
whether he wanted
to be loved or feared.
777
00:35:34,598 --> 00:35:36,393
I loved him.
778
00:35:36,495 --> 00:35:39,664
I'm not sure
many others would agree.
779
00:35:40,496 --> 00:35:42,402
And with this last class,
780
00:35:42,504 --> 00:35:45,167
he told me that the best lesson
he could give them
781
00:35:45,269 --> 00:35:46,770
was to drop them.
782
00:35:46,771 --> 00:35:49,241
That's why
that young man decided
783
00:35:49,242 --> 00:35:51,478
to take Tom's life, isn't it?
784
00:35:53,913 --> 00:35:56,109
Isn't it?
785
00:36:01,417 --> 00:36:02,548
(knocking on door)
786
00:36:02,617 --> 00:36:04,922
Hey. Y-You got a minute?
787
00:36:05,025 --> 00:36:06,289
Yeah, of course.
788
00:36:06,391 --> 00:36:07,923
All right. Look, I've been...
789
00:36:09,564 --> 00:36:12,601
...doing like we said
and following the evidence,
790
00:36:12,736 --> 00:36:13,970
where it takes me.
791
00:36:14,105 --> 00:36:18,265
And obviously Lowell shot Tom,
and, uh...
792
00:36:18,401 --> 00:36:19,602
(scoffs softly)
793
00:36:19,737 --> 00:36:23,369
...he neither accidentally
nor intentionally
794
00:36:23,472 --> 00:36:25,208
took his life.
795
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:27,679
-So, suicide?
-No.
796
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,183
And I don't know why
I didn't think about this
797
00:36:31,184 --> 00:36:32,979
from the start, but...
798
00:36:32,980 --> 00:36:35,719
although Tom was fixated
on Lowell's shortcomings,
799
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,010
he would've held
his whole unit accountable.
800
00:36:38,125 --> 00:36:39,960
All for one, one for all.
801
00:36:40,062 --> 00:36:41,821
That kind of bond is everything.
802
00:36:41,923 --> 00:36:43,596
And if Tom
was threatening D.O.R.,
803
00:36:43,664 --> 00:36:46,902
he was threatening to drop
all three agent selectees,
804
00:36:47,005 --> 00:36:49,037
including
Agents Barlow and Helm.
805
00:36:49,139 --> 00:36:52,165
So, you think
one or both of them...
806
00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:56,602
Intentionally slipped Lowell
a magazine with live rounds.
807
00:36:57,405 --> 00:37:00,580
Lowell's history with Tom would
make him the perfect fall guy.
808
00:37:00,581 --> 00:37:03,150
If that didn't work,
they had a plan B.
809
00:37:03,151 --> 00:37:04,977
Milliken's erratic behavior
810
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,680
would suggest
the possibility of suicide.
811
00:37:07,782 --> 00:37:09,559
Either way, they were covered.
812
00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:11,255
(sighs) Until now.
813
00:37:11,324 --> 00:37:13,558
No, until we can prove it.
814
00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:17,323
We only have an hour
before the news breaks.
815
00:37:17,425 --> 00:37:19,192
Luke.
816
00:37:21,166 --> 00:37:22,536
Good work.
817
00:37:31,211 --> 00:37:32,741
Your theory makes sense.
818
00:37:32,742 --> 00:37:34,781
But based on our interviews,
I'm not sure
819
00:37:34,782 --> 00:37:37,881
Barlow and Helm are capable
of that level of deception.
820
00:37:37,983 --> 00:37:42,519
I know, but I think that there's
a way to find out for sure.
821
00:37:42,621 --> 00:37:44,626
We should give Lowell
a cognitive.
822
00:37:44,627 --> 00:37:47,056
-That's right.
-GREEN: His trauma is keeping him from telling us
823
00:37:47,057 --> 00:37:50,558
exactly what happened before
and during that exercise.
824
00:37:50,627 --> 00:37:52,301
-You should do it.
-No.
825
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:55,069
-Luke...
-Look, he and I got off on the wrong foot.
826
00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:56,469
He's not gonna be able to relax.
827
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:57,933
GREEN:
You don't think your presence
828
00:37:57,934 --> 00:37:59,235
won't put him right back
in the mindset?
829
00:37:59,236 --> 00:38:00,339
I do.
830
00:38:00,474 --> 00:38:03,643
We'll be right here
if you need us.
831
00:38:04,608 --> 00:38:06,947
No, I don't want to do that.
832
00:38:07,049 --> 00:38:08,616
-Agent Lowell...
-No.
833
00:38:08,617 --> 00:38:11,019
You've been trying to trick me
into confessing from the jump.
834
00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:14,247
Look, Billy, I'm sorry.
835
00:38:16,122 --> 00:38:17,521
I'm sorry.
836
00:38:17,623 --> 00:38:20,992
Okay? I-I want
to be honest with you.
837
00:38:21,128 --> 00:38:22,656
Agent Milliken-
838
00:38:22,758 --> 00:38:26,297
Tom and I were very close.
839
00:38:26,366 --> 00:38:29,031
He was like family, and...
840
00:38:30,038 --> 00:38:31,768
(sighs) Look.
841
00:38:31,871 --> 00:38:35,809
Hearing some of the things
that he said and did,
842
00:38:35,911 --> 00:38:37,270
it was hard.
843
00:38:38,677 --> 00:38:41,648
Because of that,
I wasn't fair to you.
844
00:38:44,315 --> 00:38:46,081
I apologize.
845
00:38:48,187 --> 00:38:49,722
All right.
846
00:38:51,057 --> 00:38:54,962
ALVEZ:
Now, look, if you're willing to do what we call
847
00:38:55,064 --> 00:38:57,324
a cognitive interview,
848
00:38:57,393 --> 00:39:02,963
I believe that that could really
help us determine what happened.
849
00:39:03,031 --> 00:39:05,441
And together,
we can find the truth.
850
00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:10,611
Okay.
851
00:39:12,674 --> 00:39:14,440
How do we start?
852
00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:15,709
(sighs)
853
00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:18,047
Wh-Why'd you join the FBI?
854
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,723
Growing up, I, um...
855
00:39:25,392 --> 00:39:27,529
...never thought I was enough.
856
00:39:28,658 --> 00:39:30,466
Dad made sure of that.
857
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:33,601
I needed to prove
something to him.
858
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,099
So, I applied to the FBI.
859
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:39,808
(laughs):
And...
860
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:41,543
I got accepted.
861
00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:45,107
My dad couldn't believe it.
862
00:39:46,508 --> 00:39:48,376
But...
863
00:39:48,478 --> 00:39:50,176
you know...
864
00:39:50,245 --> 00:39:52,852
then with the expectations,
everything just...
865
00:39:52,954 --> 00:39:54,457
Grew?
866
00:39:57,123 --> 00:39:58,692
Yeah.
867
00:39:58,693 --> 00:40:02,098
Especially when
I decided to go out
868
00:40:02,099 --> 00:40:03,994
for the Hostage Rescue Team.
869
00:40:05,463 --> 00:40:07,635
That's when I...
870
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:12,706
...started having panic attacks
for the first time.
871
00:40:14,269 --> 00:40:16,679
And Agent Milliken
wasn't sympathetic to that.
872
00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:18,041
He was.
873
00:40:19,147 --> 00:40:22,342
And... wasn't.
874
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,653
Jekyll and Hyde, you know?
875
00:40:26,449 --> 00:40:28,717
He, uh...
876
00:40:28,819 --> 00:40:32,125
recommended a counselor, but...
877
00:40:32,227 --> 00:40:34,925
he kept coming back to...
878
00:40:34,994 --> 00:40:38,666
at the end of the day,
nobody has time for my shit.
879
00:40:39,498 --> 00:40:41,328
"Lives were on the line."
880
00:40:42,138 --> 00:40:44,006
But you didn't quit.
881
00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:46,072
I still had something to prove.
882
00:40:46,174 --> 00:40:48,203
To your father?
883
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:50,480
Yeah.
884
00:40:52,174 --> 00:40:56,717
And Agent Milliken
reminded you of him?
885
00:40:59,647 --> 00:41:01,249
He did.
886
00:41:03,259 --> 00:41:05,891
Every time he would, uh...
887
00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:07,763
...he would yell at me,
888
00:41:07,865 --> 00:41:09,589
I could...
889
00:41:09,692 --> 00:41:11,660
I could hear
890
00:41:11,762 --> 00:41:14,299
my dad's voice, and it would-
891
00:41:14,401 --> 00:41:16,772
literally, it would-
892
00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:19,036
make me shake.
893
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:23,903
All right, Billy.
894
00:41:24,005 --> 00:41:26,606
I want you to close your eyes.
895
00:41:26,675 --> 00:41:28,078
All right?
896
00:41:31,012 --> 00:41:33,182
All right, take a deep breath.
897
00:41:36,024 --> 00:41:38,323
(exhales)
898
00:41:38,425 --> 00:41:40,453
All right, let's go back.
899
00:41:41,896 --> 00:41:45,927
All right, Agent Milliken
hands out the weapons.
900
00:41:46,029 --> 00:41:48,037
He demonstrates
that the magazines
901
00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:51,205
are loaded with blanks, correct?
902
00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:53,967
LOWELL:
Yes, he does.
903
00:41:54,035 --> 00:41:57,110
But Joey, Owen and me, we...
904
00:41:57,212 --> 00:41:58,944
we double-check.
905
00:42:08,818 --> 00:42:10,787
And what happens next?
906
00:42:10,889 --> 00:42:14,555
We started the exercise
and, uh...
907
00:42:14,691 --> 00:42:16,325
Are you sure?
908
00:42:16,427 --> 00:42:18,392
Yes.
909
00:42:21,062 --> 00:42:23,837
Okay, Billy, close your eyes.
910
00:42:30,172 --> 00:42:33,081
Now, Agent Milliken
barks at you guys
911
00:42:33,216 --> 00:42:34,812
to get locked and loaded,
912
00:42:34,914 --> 00:42:37,884
to get your ass started
with the exercise.
913
00:42:39,585 --> 00:42:41,618
Goddamn it, Lowell!
914
00:42:41,753 --> 00:42:43,917
Lives are on the line here, son.
915
00:42:44,019 --> 00:42:46,094
You can't hack it, people die.
916
00:42:46,196 --> 00:42:47,993
It's as simple as that.
917
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,210
-Hey!
-(fingers snapping)
918
00:42:50,264 --> 00:42:51,891
Look at me!
919
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,129
You think this is abuse?
920
00:42:54,231 --> 00:42:58,068
You can't handle me,
you can't handle this job!
921
00:42:58,137 --> 00:43:00,772
But I guess the Bureau
needs its desk jockeys, too.
922
00:43:00,874 --> 00:43:03,937
You want to watch, buy a ticket.
Otherwise...
923
00:43:04,072 --> 00:43:05,774
LOWELL:
I hear my dad.
924
00:43:05,909 --> 00:43:08,283
...no more fucking excuses.
925
00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:11,483
LOWELL:
And I start to shake.
926
00:43:11,585 --> 00:43:14,887
You take the shot. Understand?
927
00:43:14,989 --> 00:43:17,488
-LOWELL: I start
getting sick... -Run it again.
928
00:43:17,590 --> 00:43:19,156
...and I can't stop.
929
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:21,726
(retching, coughing)
930
00:43:21,795 --> 00:43:23,699
-I throw up.
-(distant coughing)
931
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,669
ALVEZ:
What does Milliken do?
932
00:43:27,437 --> 00:43:29,166
LOWELL:
You know, he was pissed.
933
00:43:29,966 --> 00:43:32,768
I mean, everyone was pissed.
934
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:35,408
Joey and Owen, they were like,
935
00:43:35,477 --> 00:43:39,209
"Jesus, here we go again."
936
00:43:41,483 --> 00:43:43,719
All right, what happens now?
937
00:43:45,813 --> 00:43:47,415
Then I...
938
00:43:48,688 --> 00:43:51,025
...felt a hand on my back.
939
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,659
Whose hand?
940
00:43:52,761 --> 00:43:55,197
O'CONNOR:
It's okay. You got this, Billy.
941
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:57,498
-(coughing)
-It was O'Connor.
942
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,559
-Milliken's chief of staff?
-Yes.
943
00:44:02,269 --> 00:44:03,596
(sighs)
944
00:44:05,176 --> 00:44:07,204
I remember now. He...
945
00:44:08,972 --> 00:44:10,809
He did this pat down on me.
946
00:44:10,911 --> 00:44:12,901
-Okay, Billy. You got this.
-(coughing)
947
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:21,569
You dropped.
948
00:44:21,687 --> 00:44:22,782
LOWELL:
Oh, shit.
949
00:44:22,850 --> 00:44:24,386
Thanks.
950
00:44:28,627 --> 00:44:30,832
Jesus Christ.
951
00:44:35,132 --> 00:44:36,865
I thought he was
trying to help me.
952
00:44:36,967 --> 00:44:38,668
HELM:
Reload! Reload!
953
00:44:38,770 --> 00:44:40,534
LOWELL:
I-I...
954
00:44:41,708 --> 00:44:43,108
I don't understand. Wh...
955
00:44:45,041 --> 00:44:47,079
Why would he do that to me?
956
00:44:47,879 --> 00:44:49,583
ALVEZ:
All that mattered to him
957
00:44:49,718 --> 00:44:51,716
was finding someone
to take the fall.
958
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:53,921
But I pulled
the goddamn trigger.
959
00:44:53,922 --> 00:44:57,418
It's just gonna be
my word against his.
960
00:44:57,419 --> 00:44:59,586
Who's gonna b-
Who's gonna believe me?
961
00:45:06,163 --> 00:45:07,766
-Thanks, Peter.
-Not a problem.
962
00:45:07,902 --> 00:45:10,070
But you did get
those reports I sent?
963
00:45:10,172 --> 00:45:11,222
We did.
964
00:45:11,275 --> 00:45:12,541
Turns out, there's, uh,
965
00:45:12,610 --> 00:45:14,504
another item we need
to take a look at.
966
00:45:14,606 --> 00:45:16,512
What's that?
967
00:45:16,614 --> 00:45:19,509
We think Agent Milliken
kept a journal.
968
00:45:19,611 --> 00:45:21,179
In his safe.
969
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:23,050
REBECCA:
When his wife was here collecting his belongings,
970
00:45:23,051 --> 00:45:26,914
she said that you weren't around
to open it for her.
971
00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:29,121
No, but I can grab it now.
972
00:45:32,658 --> 00:45:34,830
(keypad beeping)
973
00:45:44,771 --> 00:45:47,539
Uh, I'm not seeing a journal.
974
00:45:47,608 --> 00:45:49,746
Can you step aside?
975
00:46:03,392 --> 00:46:04,927
Peter O'Connor,
976
00:46:04,995 --> 00:46:07,885
you're under arrest for the
murder of Agent Tom Milliken.
977
00:46:07,927 --> 00:46:09,487
Wh-What the fuck are you doing?
978
00:46:09,488 --> 00:46:11,467
Ballistics confirmed
that Agent Milliken
979
00:46:11,468 --> 00:46:12,834
was killed by his own bullet.
980
00:46:12,835 --> 00:46:14,231
The ammunition he used
was always kept
981
00:46:14,232 --> 00:46:16,266
-right here in this safe.
-(handcuffs click)
982
00:46:16,267 --> 00:46:17,967
Cindy said her husband
and one other person
983
00:46:17,968 --> 00:46:19,301
had that combination.
984
00:46:19,302 --> 00:46:21,172
-You were that other person.
-This is crazy.
985
00:46:21,173 --> 00:46:22,840
I've given everything I have
to this man.
986
00:46:22,841 --> 00:46:24,005
JJ:
We can see that.
987
00:46:24,006 --> 00:46:25,439
But you couldn't help yourself.
988
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,209
You pointed us
in the direction of OPR.
989
00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:28,882
All those anonymous complaints.
990
00:46:28,984 --> 00:46:32,082
One of which was for a selectee
who got D.O.R.'d
991
00:46:32,184 --> 00:46:34,615
and, one week later,
took his own life.
992
00:46:35,557 --> 00:46:38,324
JJ:
Matthew O'Connor.
993
00:46:38,427 --> 00:46:39,820
Your brother.
994
00:46:39,956 --> 00:46:41,323
And nobody cared,
995
00:46:41,425 --> 00:46:44,024
so you had to take matters
into your own hands.
996
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:46,334
OPR is a fucking joke.
997
00:46:46,335 --> 00:46:47,637
What's the goddamn point?
998
00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:49,538
The rules are never
applied equally.
999
00:46:49,539 --> 00:46:50,968
Someone always gets
special treatment.
1000
00:46:50,969 --> 00:46:52,938
Your brother deserved better.
1001
00:46:52,939 --> 00:46:55,037
And Milliken got exactly
what he deserved.
1002
00:46:55,038 --> 00:46:56,637
And what about Billy?
1003
00:46:57,580 --> 00:46:59,508
He didn't deserve any of this.
1004
00:47:00,846 --> 00:47:02,885
Get him out of here.
1005
00:47:09,019 --> 00:47:11,154
Test one, test two. Test.
1006
00:47:11,223 --> 00:47:15,521
"How can a clam cram
a clean, cream can?"
1007
00:47:15,623 --> 00:47:19,592
Well, if I may say,
your script is solid,
1008
00:47:19,593 --> 00:47:21,800
but I'd like to propose
a few tiny punch-ups.
1009
00:47:21,801 --> 00:47:23,231
Like, maybe a couple more
1010
00:47:23,333 --> 00:47:25,300
bumpers
to my commercial breaks...
1011
00:47:25,301 --> 00:47:26,973
No. You stick to the words
on the page.
1012
00:47:26,974 --> 00:47:29,368
Hey.
We've gone over this before.
1013
00:47:29,470 --> 00:47:31,206
Can you honestly not comprehend
1014
00:47:31,308 --> 00:47:33,238
the gravity
of what we're doing here?
1015
00:47:33,251 --> 00:47:35,048
I can, and I do.
1016
00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:37,884
But, seriously, if this guy's
a fan of the podcast,
1017
00:47:37,885 --> 00:47:39,952
he'll probably be able
to tell the difference
1018
00:47:39,953 --> 00:47:41,983
between me and "entrapment me."
1019
00:47:42,052 --> 00:47:43,625
It's not entrapment.
1020
00:47:43,727 --> 00:47:46,053
-You know what I mean.
-LEWIS: Brian.
1021
00:47:46,155 --> 00:47:47,891
We're all set here. Okay?
1022
00:47:47,993 --> 00:47:49,664
And you're gonna do great.
1023
00:47:49,733 --> 00:47:51,423
Right now,
when we're on the air,
1024
00:47:51,424 --> 00:47:53,403
we're hoping
that the scripted words there
1025
00:47:53,404 --> 00:47:54,667
will entice this man
1026
00:47:54,736 --> 00:47:56,067
-to call in.
-And then,
1027
00:47:56,203 --> 00:47:58,313
we need to keep him
on the line long enough
1028
00:47:58,334 --> 00:47:59,806
either to track his location...
1029
00:47:59,908 --> 00:48:02,741
Or get a decent slice
of profile.
1030
00:48:02,843 --> 00:48:04,646
I do know. You did tell me.
1031
00:48:04,748 --> 00:48:07,406
Hey. We also told you
if you deviate
1032
00:48:07,542 --> 00:48:09,648
one syllable
from this script here,
1033
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:11,516
somebody could die.
1034
00:48:11,619 --> 00:48:13,219
Are we clear?
1035
00:48:14,081 --> 00:48:15,755
Crystal.
1036
00:48:15,857 --> 00:48:17,817
Now let's make podcast history.
1037
00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:22,693
(indistinct radio chatter)
1038
00:48:22,694 --> 00:48:24,626
Whoa.
1039
00:48:26,634 --> 00:48:27,930
Hello, Brian.
1040
00:48:28,032 --> 00:48:29,428
Special guest appearance?
1041
00:48:29,429 --> 00:48:30,834
LEWIS:
He's just here to observe.
1042
00:48:30,835 --> 00:48:32,305
Ignore him.
1043
00:48:32,441 --> 00:48:33,665
I mean it.
1044
00:48:33,767 --> 00:48:36,642
Do not say one word
about him being here.
1045
00:48:36,777 --> 00:48:38,043
GARRITY:
Okay, but...
1046
00:48:38,044 --> 00:48:39,750
wouldn't it make more sense
for the guy
1047
00:48:39,751 --> 00:48:41,741
to just be able
to talk directly to him?
1048
00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:45,317
No more questions.
Stay on script.
1049
00:48:49,116 --> 00:48:50,166
Penelope?
1050
00:48:50,253 --> 00:48:51,858
Okay, Emily. Ready when you are.
1051
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,293
Standing by to trace
incoming calls.
1052
00:48:55,631 --> 00:48:56,731
(theme music plays)
1053
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,664
Welcome to
a very special episode
1054
00:48:58,799 --> 00:48:59,998
of The Sicarius Files.
1055
00:49:00,134 --> 00:49:02,902
We are coming to you live
from the FBI,
1056
00:49:02,971 --> 00:49:05,466
and we are joined
by renowned author
1057
00:49:05,568 --> 00:49:09,308
and supervisory special agent
David Rossi.
1058
00:49:11,945 --> 00:49:13,515
Thanks for being here, David.
1059
00:49:13,617 --> 00:49:15,882
Thanks for having me, Brian.
1060
00:49:15,883 --> 00:49:17,952
GARRITY:
This is a live episode, folks,
1061
00:49:17,953 --> 00:49:19,713
so don't be shy.
We're taking calls,
1062
00:49:19,714 --> 00:49:21,689
and you can find
our number at the official
1063
00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:23,521
Sicarius Files website.
1064
00:49:23,657 --> 00:49:25,357
So, David,
1065
00:49:25,358 --> 00:49:28,227
there's so much to talk about
with your storied career,
1066
00:49:28,228 --> 00:49:30,897
but for our purposes,
we'll focus solely
1067
00:49:30,999 --> 00:49:33,429
on Elias Voit,
the Sicarius Killer.
1068
00:49:33,497 --> 00:49:36,464
I'd like to start at,
well, the beginning.
1069
00:49:36,533 --> 00:49:39,541
So, tell me, when were you
first made aware
1070
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:41,503
of Dr. Tara Lewis's discovery
1071
00:49:41,605 --> 00:49:44,307
of the buried shipping container
in Yakima County?
1072
00:49:44,308 --> 00:49:45,681
CALLER:
Uh, my question for Agent Rossi
1073
00:49:45,682 --> 00:49:47,182
has to do with Benjamin Reeves.
1074
00:49:47,183 --> 00:49:49,419
Is it true that Reeves
basically helped Voit...
1075
00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:51,285
CALLER 2: Somebody once told
me that Second Street is, like,
1076
00:49:51,286 --> 00:49:53,515
the most common street name
in America, but...
1077
00:49:53,516 --> 00:49:55,422
ROSSI:
So, in that surveillance video
1078
00:49:55,423 --> 00:50:00,128
from the hardware store, um,
while I couldn't I.D. Voit,
1079
00:50:00,196 --> 00:50:04,127
I was able to see him
reaching into his back pocket,
1080
00:50:04,195 --> 00:50:06,728
trying to mute his cell phone.
1081
00:50:06,729 --> 00:50:09,063
CALLER 3:
Which then led you to conduct a trace
1082
00:50:09,064 --> 00:50:11,837
of cell phone calls to and from
that region of the country?
1083
00:50:11,838 --> 00:50:13,069
Yes, that's right.
1084
00:50:13,171 --> 00:50:14,934
Thanks for your call, Oliver.
1085
00:50:15,036 --> 00:50:18,744
So, um, you run that trace
and you get hundreds of calls
1086
00:50:18,879 --> 00:50:20,079
you have to go through,
1087
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,085
but since you know
the timing of the calls,
1088
00:50:22,086 --> 00:50:24,911
you were able to pretty much
zero in on Seattle.
1089
00:50:24,912 --> 00:50:27,583
-ROSSI: That's right, because...
-And I will pause you there,
1090
00:50:27,584 --> 00:50:29,086
because we are getting
another caller.
1091
00:50:29,087 --> 00:50:31,554
Uh, hi. You are live
1092
00:50:31,656 --> 00:50:35,260
on the air with Brian Garrity
and SSA David Rossi.
1093
00:50:35,362 --> 00:50:38,326
With whom do we have
the pleasure of speaking?
1094
00:50:38,394 --> 00:50:40,366
KINGSTON:
Call me God.
1095
00:50:49,944 --> 00:50:52,272
Okay. We will call you God.
1096
00:50:52,374 --> 00:50:54,611
Do you have a question?
1097
00:50:54,612 --> 00:50:57,984
KINGSTON:
Why Sicarius spiders?
1098
00:50:57,985 --> 00:50:59,349
GARRITY:
The spiders...
1099
00:50:59,350 --> 00:51:01,155
Okay, Emily.
I've isolated the phone line.
1100
00:51:01,156 --> 00:51:04,286
-Can you get a trace?
-Uh, not exactly.
1101
00:51:04,287 --> 00:51:05,653
Is he running countermeasures?
1102
00:51:05,654 --> 00:51:07,359
He is definitely
a student of Voit's.
1103
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,195
Okay, I want you to keep
the phone line open
1104
00:51:09,196 --> 00:51:11,158
but pause the live stream
right now.
1105
00:51:11,227 --> 00:51:12,325
Okay, yeah.
1106
00:51:12,427 --> 00:51:13,660
...the Sicarius case.
1107
00:51:13,729 --> 00:51:15,795
Uh, as a fan of the podcast,
of course,
1108
00:51:15,796 --> 00:51:18,102
you are familiar
with Elias Voit's testimony
1109
00:51:18,103 --> 00:51:19,303
regarding the spiders.
1110
00:51:19,304 --> 00:51:20,807
KINGSTON:
Let David Rossi answer.
1111
00:51:20,808 --> 00:51:22,236
Why Sicarius?
1112
00:51:22,371 --> 00:51:25,074
I-I recognize that voice.
1113
00:51:25,176 --> 00:51:27,010
It's Lance Kingston.
1114
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:29,574
But he can't be our guy.
1115
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:31,281
No, he's not. He's his hostage.
1116
00:51:31,282 --> 00:51:32,655
ROSSI:
Clearly, you're not satisfied
1117
00:51:32,656 --> 00:51:34,688
with Voit's own answer.
1118
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:36,084
(keyboard clicking)
1119
00:51:36,220 --> 00:51:38,058
KINGSTON:
I am not.
1120
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,392
Were the Sicarius spiders
part of Voit's
1121
00:51:40,494 --> 00:51:43,564
counterintelligence training
in interrogation tactics?
1122
00:51:44,565 --> 00:51:48,200
Uh, in a previous episode,
I described how I embellished
1123
00:51:48,302 --> 00:51:50,671
certain aspects
of The Sicarius Files
1124
00:51:50,773 --> 00:51:52,265
for dramatic purposes.
1125
00:51:52,401 --> 00:51:54,602
The fact is, I lied.
1126
00:51:54,737 --> 00:51:58,874
Elias Voit has nothing to do
with the FBI
1127
00:51:58,943 --> 00:52:02,542
and is not associated with any
government agency or program.
1128
00:52:02,611 --> 00:52:04,751
Are you saying Voit is unique?
1129
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:08,080
He's rare but not unique.
1130
00:52:08,923 --> 00:52:12,161
Much like yourself.
1131
00:52:14,897 --> 00:52:17,595
Are you trying to profile me?
1132
00:52:19,861 --> 00:52:22,165
Oh, I, uh, I couldn't
even if I wanted to,
1133
00:52:22,267 --> 00:52:24,629
because I'm not speaking to you.
1134
00:52:24,765 --> 00:52:28,271
I'm speaking to Lance Kingston,
1135
00:52:28,373 --> 00:52:31,239
the man you're holding captive.
1136
00:52:31,341 --> 00:52:33,545
(breathing heavily)
1137
00:52:34,949 --> 00:52:36,850
Penelope, talk to me.
1138
00:52:36,952 --> 00:52:39,012
I'm so close. I am so, so close.
1139
00:52:39,013 --> 00:52:41,484
-We don't have much more time.
-Okay. I know, I know.
1140
00:52:41,485 --> 00:52:42,990
ROSSI:
And I know the reason
1141
00:52:43,092 --> 00:52:45,142
why you're still holding
Lance captive
1142
00:52:45,224 --> 00:52:46,544
and using him as your proxy
1143
00:52:46,592 --> 00:52:51,393
is Lance's death
will satisfy nothing for you.
1144
00:52:51,495 --> 00:52:53,294
KINGSTON:
Ramona Havener.
1145
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:55,395
ROSSI:
What about her?
1146
00:52:55,497 --> 00:52:56,863
Voit spared her life,
1147
00:52:56,864 --> 00:52:58,632
and her testimony
led to his conviction.
1148
00:52:58,633 --> 00:52:59,953
Oh, he didn't spare Ramona.
1149
00:52:59,954 --> 00:53:01,572
He turned her over
to Arthur Kiel,
1150
00:53:01,573 --> 00:53:04,912
whom he knew would abuse
and strangle her.
1151
00:53:05,014 --> 00:53:07,243
-But Arthur Kiel did not.
-No.
1152
00:53:07,312 --> 00:53:10,116
Because we found her first.
1153
00:53:10,185 --> 00:53:12,683
Why didn't Voit
kill her himself?
1154
00:53:15,792 --> 00:53:18,854
Well, that was, um...
1155
00:53:19,657 --> 00:53:22,323
...that was because Ramona
reminded him
1156
00:53:22,425 --> 00:53:25,091
of his ex-wife Sydney.
1157
00:53:27,002 --> 00:53:28,667
Okay, I got him. I got him.
1158
00:53:28,668 --> 00:53:31,868
He's at the Stash-All Storage
facility in Richmond, Virginia.
1159
00:53:31,869 --> 00:53:33,967
It's a garage unit
being rented by Lance Kingston.
1160
00:53:33,968 --> 00:53:35,909
The Stash-All Storage,
Richmond, Virginia.
1161
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:36,910
Yeah, I'm on it.
1162
00:53:36,911 --> 00:53:38,273
GARRITY:
God?
1163
00:53:38,375 --> 00:53:40,375
Are you still with us?
1164
00:53:40,477 --> 00:53:42,178
KINGSTON:
Is he there?
1165
00:53:42,314 --> 00:53:45,045
-Is who here?
-Voit.
1166
00:53:50,692 --> 00:53:52,559
No.
1167
00:53:52,661 --> 00:53:55,155
(panting)
1168
00:53:55,224 --> 00:53:57,398
? ?
1169
00:54:02,167 --> 00:54:03,767
(metal scrapes)
1170
00:54:04,699 --> 00:54:07,034
-(sizzling)
-(screaming)
1171
00:54:08,737 --> 00:54:10,307
-(gasps)
-KINGSTON: Oh, God,
1172
00:54:10,375 --> 00:54:11,775
-tell him!
-What the...
1173
00:54:12,681 --> 00:54:14,215
Lance?
1174
00:54:14,317 --> 00:54:16,487
-No, don't... Stop, stop, stop!
-(sizzling)
1175
00:54:16,488 --> 00:54:19,016
-Brian.
-For fuck's sake, tell him! Is he there?!
1176
00:54:19,017 --> 00:54:20,320
Please!
1177
00:54:20,389 --> 00:54:23,184
Tell him! He's gonna kill me!
(sobbing)
1178
00:54:23,286 --> 00:54:25,220
(stammers)
1179
00:54:25,322 --> 00:54:26,494
Yes, he's here!
1180
00:54:26,596 --> 00:54:27,646
No.
1181
00:54:27,657 --> 00:54:29,227
KINGSTON:
No, no, no, no.
1182
00:54:29,329 --> 00:54:31,061
-(sizzling)
-No, stop! Stop!
1183
00:54:31,163 --> 00:54:32,701
GARRITY:
Lance?
1184
00:54:32,803 --> 00:54:34,435
He's, uh- Voit is here.
1185
00:54:34,570 --> 00:54:37,306
-Elias Voit is here.
You can talk to him. -(screaming)
1186
00:54:38,773 --> 00:54:40,441
Oh, God.
1187
00:54:43,374 --> 00:54:45,447
What just happened?
1188
00:54:45,549 --> 00:54:47,778
(sighs)
1189
00:54:52,989 --> 00:54:55,357
You just caused a man's death.
1190
00:54:55,407 --> 00:54:59,957
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