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Ladies and gentlemen,
we are gathered here today
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to berieve the loss
of something dear to us.
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We are here today to say
goodbye to a special friend,
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to say goodbye to an idea.
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Some might say that
to be here gathered today
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to mourn the loss of a car
would be going too far.
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In 1996, electric cars began to appear
on roads all over California.
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They were quiet and fast,
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produced no exhaust
and ran without gasoline.
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Ten years later, these futuristic
cars were almost entirely gone.
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What happened?
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Why should we be haunted
by the ghost of the electric car?
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This wasn't the first time
the electric car was killed.
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One hundred years ago,
there were more electrics on the road
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than there were gas cars.
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For many people electric
cars were the car of choice.
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They were quiet an smooth,
and could be charged at home.
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Gas cars by comparison required
cranking and produced exhaust.
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I'm so old I remember electric cars,
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when they were around in the beginning.
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I would've been about six years old
on the way to the symphony
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in that darling little electric car.
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They were very quiet, and it
had beveled glass windows.
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It was almost like
sitting inside a huge lamp.
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What happened?
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Why did the gas car win
over the electric car?
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As the 20th century gathered speed,
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the electric car lost momentum.
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Automatic starters, cheaper
oil and mass production
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gave the edge to the gasoline car.
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By 1920, the internal combustion
engine had won the race
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for control of the roads.
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And the modern automobile age was born.
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Of the hundreds of millions
of cars built in the 20th century,
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almost none were electric.
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They were sleek.
They were fast.
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And they gave Americans the open road.
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But as time went on, their
number one flaw became apparent.
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Smog.
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California has the worst
air quality in the nation.
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And it impacts some of our
largest population centers.
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In my district, we have what is
called the "black cloud of death"
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that hangs over the port areas
and the areas surrounding the ports.
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We are seeing some
tremendously debilitating effects:
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asthma rates, cancer rates,
lung development in children,
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children not being
allowed to play outside.
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In 1989, a study found
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that one out of four 15 to 25
year-olds in Los Angeles county
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had severe lung lesions
and chronic respiratory disease.
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In 1990, there were 41
stage one smog alerts.
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No matter what kind of car we drive,
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every gallon of gas we burn,
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adds 19 pounds of carbon dioxide to the air.
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The more gas we burn,
the more CO2 we create.
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If you don't do something with
that CO2, if you don't sequester it
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it's going up into the atmosphere
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and CO2 is a global warming gas.
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I believe the problems of
global warming will be far greater
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than the problems of social security
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or even the problems of war on terrorism.
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We've got the equivalent of a nuclear time bomb
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on our hand,
with global warming.
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If lung disease from air
pollution is unimportant,
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if all those things don't count,
we're going to be in bad trouble.
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And there's a public health crisis.
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But we have to have incentives
and we have to have alternatives.
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Car companies experimented
with alternatives over the years,
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but none of them ever seem to
make it out of the proving grounds.
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I remember, I was the chairman of the
board of the Tennessee Valley Authority,
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and we were promoting the electric
car back in the late 70's.
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I had even planned a race
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from Gatlinburg, Tennessee
to Nashville
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between Paul Newman
and Robert Redford.
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And I had it all lined up, and then
I realised that we'd get a lot of national publicity,
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but there were no cars in the showrooms.
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It would take a different kind of race to
make the electric car the car of the future.
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The Sunraycer was a solar-powered vehicle
that was developed here, at AeroVironment,
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for the purpose of winning a race.
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In 1987, GM won the World Solar
Challenge race in Australia
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with a one-of-a-kind solar-powered
electric vehicle, the Sunraycer.
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Emboldened by their success,
GM C.E.O. Roger Smith
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challenged the same design team to
build a prototype for a practical electric car.
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If we were to go full speed
ahead with electric cars
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the electronics had to be good enough
in order to warrant that concept,
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and that's where the work
of Alan Cocconi came in.
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You've built the prototype
for this in your garage?
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Yes. Well, my garage
isn't quite the average garage,
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it's a pretty good machine shop and electronics
lab. But yes, I've built it there.
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It's like a three-channel stereo amplifier.
It provides the right size sinus waves
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at right frequency to drive the motor
for all the different driving conditions.
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So it's a 100 000 watt stereo amplifier.
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Alan's breakthrough power system
helped create an electric car
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unlike any that had
ever been driven before.
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They've kept this car also a secret,
much better than any Detroit secret
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because it was all developed
out here in California.
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So it truly was a surprise
when it was introduced
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to Los Angeles auto show.
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This is going to represent a great step
forward for people in terms of
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commuting to work,
from work
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if you don't have to go more
than 120 miles a day.
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Other than the jokes that we made
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about the wisdom of calling a vehicle the Impact
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it was very impressive, it was very high-tech
and it had an interesting premise
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that we've got this Corvette
electric-type car,
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two-seater, slick styling, and that
we can make a business out of it.
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It was interesting.
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Program manager called me and said:
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"Would you like to be on the
electric vehicle program?"
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"That's fine. What do
you want me to do?"
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And he said: "Develop demand for
electric vehicles worldwide."
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I said: "Do you have any instructions?"
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He took a blank piece of paper,
shoved it in front of me and said:
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"No instructions. You go figure it out." At
that point I joined the program.
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It got a lot of interest
flowing in the industry,
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but it did something else.
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It caught the attention of the
California Air Resources Board.
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California's Air Resources Board,
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or CARB as it was known,
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saw the electric car as an
opportunity to solve another problem.
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Since GM had already announced
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that they were going to
produce an electric vehicle
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before we even adopted the mandate,
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the electric vehicle technology
became the technology
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of greatest promise.
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Knowing a modern electric
car was now possible,
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California regulators took a bold
and unprecedented step.
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They passed the Zero Emissions Vehicle mandate.
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The mandate was simple.
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If automakers wanted to
continue to sell cars in California,
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some of those cars would have
to be vehicles with no exhaust.
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They've decided to ramp it up.
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They said 2% in 1998, 5% in 2001
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and 10% in 2003.
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For the car companies there
were only two options;
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Comply with the law or fight it.
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In the end, they would do both.
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The electric car is here.
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The EV1 from General Motors.
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The Impact prototype became the EV1,
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the first modern electric
production car
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from a major US car company
in nearly a century.
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GM chose its Saturn division to market
it in California and Arizona.
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I'd bought my first Saturn at 17,
and they'd said;
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"Do you want to come work here?"
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I thought it would be a good college job,
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I'll put myself through college this way.
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It turned out I loved the cars
more than what I was studying,
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and three years later they announced
the EV1 program and I jumped on it.
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There were the 13 of us, most of
whom were mid-twenties, unattached,
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single, no kids - willing to do
anything for a little money.
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We all handled a particular
geographic region.
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Mine started as Los Angeles,
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and I've worked with everybody:
from engineers and students to celebrities.
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I say, I say, I say Alexandra !
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I have a picture of myself...
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just hearing the Saturn song...
Just being so happy!
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I had one of those early EV1's,
and I used it here in the capital.
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I love the car.
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It's everything Americans want in a car.
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They're cool, fast, sexy.
I got in the car and felt like...
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It was fairly reasonably priced.
It was between 250 $ and 500 $ a month.
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I haven't tried accelerating too much,
because there is too many cops around.
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I'm afraid I'll get a ticket,
I'll be too excited.
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Believe it or not, that sucker goes.
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It will take you down the Pacific Coast
Highway so fast you could get a ticket.
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I did kind of feel like Batman...
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And the way it takes
off out of the cave.
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You know, I have this gate that opens...
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You'd get inside,
and the console was really near you,
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and the lighting is beautiful.
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It was quiet.
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The car was so fast it looked like it
would outrun its own shadow.
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It's an awesome car to drive.
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It was the crust of a wave that
we'd thought was coming in.
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It was going to change the
way everybody travels.
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Other car companies began to comply,
often with conversions of gas cars
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but with many of the same
advantages of the EV1.
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I'm not mechanical at all but I love dealing
wih my electric car, because it's so easy.
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I plug it in at night and when
I need to drive it I unplug
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and drive it away.
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They're for people who
love the environment.
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I said they're for people who love cars.
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They're for people who have to go somewhere.
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This is amazing.
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What you do with this electric car is,
you put the key in,
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- and you turn it.
- Wow.
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And there's this thing on
the floor called the pedal.
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The exciting thing about this is
that the cost of operating a car
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is the same as if you're
driving a typical gasoline car.
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But the gasoline only
costs 60 cents a gallon.
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Going to the gas station is a hassle,
believe it or not. Plugging a car in is not.
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The battery, that you charge at home,
gets between 70 and 80 miles per charge,
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which for me is more than all the driving that I
need to do in the course of a day.
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People started seeing
the cars on the road
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and getting a better
understanding of what they could do.
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Friends and neighbors
and relatives are saying;
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"Hey, that's a neat idea.
I should get one of those."
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And we started seeing the
momentum building for this,
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and the waiting lists
being created for these cars.
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- Cut two.
- Cut two.
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I go online to look for other Toyota
RAV4's and I see Toyota RAV4 EV.
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And wow!
My whole world opened up.
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It's this electric vehicle.
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It goes 100 miles to a
charge, blablabla...
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I was like
"I didn't know this existed."
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"How come I don't know about this?
Have you seen this on tv?"
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When I first tried to buy the Honda EV Plus,
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I drove in it and said:
"Hey, this is a great car."
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The person who was trying to
sell it to us was dumbfounded.
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He didn't know what to do.
He'd never leased one before.
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Didn't know how to do it,
and it took me six weeks of negotiations
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before I was able to get
the car from their hands.
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There's nothing like driving a car
where you realise, as you sit in the traffic
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there's no pollution
coming out of your tailpipe.
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It's just the battery sound.
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By driving an electric car,
what are you sparing us from?
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I'm saving America Dave,
that's what I'm doing.
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I am saving America
by driving an electric car.
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Not everyone was sure that
electric cars would save Ameica.
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Even as GM rolled out its first
batch of EV1's, there were skeptics.
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Consumer acceptance and understanding
has been a key issue in all of this.
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And what we discovered is that people
are very cautious about the electric car.
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I would consider it, but I
haven't done enough research,
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I don't know if they're going to
be strong, big and dependable.
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I have to know where do
I have to go to recharge it,
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what do I have to do for the battery...
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People don't want a mini, tiny car
that has 15 inch wheels.
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How's he gonna fix that up and
go around town and parade it?
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While some consumers expressed
skepticism about electric cars,
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California was pressured
to drop the mandate.
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A group called "Californians
against utility company abuse"
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fought a small utility
surcharge to build charging stations.
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They would go to local city
council meetings and say:
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"You don't want to put an electric
vehicle charging station there.
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"That's a waste of taxpayer money."
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They had this list of supporters.
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Companies like Trader Joe's,
and others for which you'd say
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"Why would they
support something like this?"
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So the EV drivers got together
and started writing letters
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to some of these people that
were listed on their web site.
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as being supporters, and said
"Do you realise what you're supporting here?"
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And they got all these names
removed from the list.
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Further investigation
revealed that these groups
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were consumer
organizations in name only
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funded almost
exclusively by the oil industry.
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Oil companies also paid for
editorials in national publications.
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They even argued that the
environmental benefits of EV's were dubious.
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With electric vehicles we're going
to have this shift of energy away from oil.
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And if we shift it to coal,
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there are some environmental
problems that are just very disconcerting.
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Right now, in the United States,
we're 55 percent coal.
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If you run the numbers with
standard coal power plants,
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you don't end up with a better
environmental performance,
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but with a longer tailpipe.
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There have been numerous studies conducted
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by the California Energy Commission,
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that clearly show that electric
drive is substantially more efficient
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and less polluting, even if you get
your electricity from coal plants.
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But the arguments against
electrics didn't stop there.
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They even made the
ridiculous argument
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that there was an environmental
justice issue involved,
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because they said only rich
people could buy electric cars.
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Well, the air doesn't know a boundary
between Brentwood and south L.A.
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Car companies began to argue
that the mandate was too strict.
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We had to help with the regulations.
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The regulatory people knew
nothing about this stuff,
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and we began to get the eerie feeling
that we were going over a cliff.
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It wasn't going to be possible.
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California was faced with the
prospect of "What do you do
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"...if the car companies don't comply?"
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So rather than do brinksmanship
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about what would happen
if they didn't comply and stick with it,
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they started negotiating,
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a certain flexibility in the mandate.
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California compromised
with the automakers
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adopting a memorandum of agreement.
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One of the agreements with the state
was that the automakers would build
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and market electric vehicles
in accordance with demand.
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If they didn't want to build more of them,
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the car companies would have to make
the case that there was no demand.
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The person will go unnamed,
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but we were having a lunch in the executive
dining room at the GM tech center one day.
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Just the two of us,
and he leans over to me and says:
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"Dabels, you know something?
You are my worst enemy."
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I asked why, and he said:
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"I'm out there lobbying to show that
there's no demand for electric vehicles,
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"and you're out there proving me wrong."
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We would sit down with Hal Riney
or with executives from GM and discuss
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how fast, how far, how much.
These were the three questions we were getting.
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"Please put it in the advertising.
It's not rocket science."
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And they would go back
and do the exact opposite.
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We never saw a tv ad
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with an electric car scampering
up the side of a hill
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with a good looking man or
woman draped around it.
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That's the way they sell cars.
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How does it go without gas and air?
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How does it go without
sparks and explosions?
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How does it go without
gears or transmissions?
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How does it go, you ask yourself?
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And then, you will ask;
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How did we go so long without it?
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The electric car.
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It isn't coming,
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it's here.
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What was the objective
of these advertisements?
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Was it to entice consumers
or to scare them away?
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Our goal at GM was to make the full
functioning, battery electric vehicle
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a commercially viable business
opportunity for General Motors.
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GM spokesman, Dave Barthmuss,
has worked for GM for nearly ten years.
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We spent in excess of one billion
dollars to drive this market.
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That means award-winning
advertising, developing the vehicle,
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developing the recharging infrastructure.
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In a four-year timeframe,
from roughly 1996 to 2000,
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we were able to lease 800 EV1's.
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We started this waiting list
in order to prove demand to GM,
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but no matter how many
people we got on that list,
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that was never considered enough demand.
Everything was anecdotal to GM.
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We have heard about
these long waiting lists,
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and frankly, we did have a
list of roughly 4000 people
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that raised their hands and said:
"I would be interested in getting a new EV1
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"and being an EV1 lessee."
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We contacted each of those folks
and we riddled that list down.
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And when we got down to
a point when we were able to have
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somebody sign on the dotted line,
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that list from 4000 people
shrunk to about 50.
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Only recently did they finally
admit there actually was a waiting list
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and tried to explain
it in the way of;
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"By the time we explained all the limitations
of the car to them only 50 would sign up."
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If you sincerely want to
market a product,
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you don't start out by describing
the limitations of the product.
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Tom Everhart is president
emeritus at Caltech.
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He served on GM's board
of directors for 13 years.
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I do not think General Motors tried hard
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to get the electric cars out rapidly.
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Whether the C.E.O. of General Motors
understood that, I don't know.
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We had to ask permission of
who everyone to give a car to,
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and by the end we were low on cars,
we had to write case statements.
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We tried to put the cars
in hands of celebrities,
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because they were the only ones
that stood a chance of getting the car.
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The 3rd grade science teacher
didn't stand a chance.
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I had to write a resume for Mel Gibson,
and what he'd done and accomplished,
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because the people I was talking to
didn't believe that he warranted a car.
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I was wondering: "Why do I
have to fill this out?"
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You had to tell them where
your birthmarks were.
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I mean it was everything.
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"Have you recently had
a proctoscope inserted into your..."
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"Well, no."
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You had to get really specific
about a whole bunch of things.
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Consumers wanted it, but they
regarded it as a limited vehicle
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and they expected to
pay a limited price for it.
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And there's nothing irrational about
the consumer that said that to us.
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That's a perfectly
reasonable statement.
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"You're giving me a vehicle that
does less, I wanna pay less."
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Okay.
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But unfortunately, I
couldn't make it for less.
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They argue things like money and that
they're too expensive to build,
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yet they're building four a day.
They were very hand built cars,
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with specialized components.
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And had they mass-marketed them,
they of course would have come down.
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As car companies made the
case there was no demand
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electric vehicle advocates thought
they had a sympathetic ear
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with the appointment of environmental
scientist, doctor Alan Lloyd
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as chairman of the California Air Resources Board.
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First time I presided over that,
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I felt that the car companies
weren't making significant effort,
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so i felt: "Flog them harder.
Flog them often. They need to do better."
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For the regulation - we felt it needed
to be changed drastically.
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And there was some movement that way,
but it didn't go away.
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While the car companies
fought the mandate in Sacramento,
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GM quietly closed its EV1 assembly line
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and began laying off its sales force.
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All of a sudden, we were not only taken
off the project, but taken out of the company.
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They started with the
ones with the most...
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the biggest waiting lists,
and the most customers.
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The primary areas were
the ones that they dismantled first.
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And so, at the end of 2001,
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that was it in terms of my
employment with General Motors.
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Studying general Motors
practices over the years,
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and I don't speak for
the engineers and scientists
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who would really have liked to have done
a better job with motor vehicle technology,
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but the executives at the top,
their motto seemed to have been:
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"Going backwards into the future."
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And that's what they've
been doing for decades.
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As a veteran consumer advocate,
Ralph Nader used grassroots campaigns
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to make cars safer
and more fuel efficient.
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He's familiar with the tactics used
by the car industry to resist change.
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There are all kinds of ways to take
and bring politicians to their knees.
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Once the car companies
get a long delay time,
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then they go to work,
eroding, eroding.
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And than when the deadline is
approaching they say they can't do it
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and there are going to
be terrible consequences.
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Automakers took
the fight to a new level.
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They sued
California's Air Resources Board.
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GM led the lawsuit, soon joined
by Chrysler and several auto dealerships.
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As California withered
under the pressure,
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the carmakers
found a powerful new ally,
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the federal government.
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Shortly after joining the suit,
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the Bush administration
made another announcement.
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Tonight, I'm proposing 1.2 billion
dollars in research funding
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so that America can
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lead the world in developing clean,
hydrogen-powered automobiles.
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The federal government joined
the car and oil industries
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to embrace a new
clean car of the future.
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With more than a billion
federal dollars up for grabs,
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over the next few years,
the campaign for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles
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began to sway California.
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Hello there and welcome
to the California Fuel Cell Partnership
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where we're fuelling the future in
a new and enviromentally friendly way.
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Automakers, energy
and technology providers,
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along with government agencies
are voluntarily working together
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to commercialize the
fuel cell for cars and buses.
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Soon you may see some of these cars
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cruising through your
very own neighborhood.
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We will not just dream about
the hydrogen fuelling stations.
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We will not just dream about the
hydrogen cars. We will build it.
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The hydrogen Hummer is not a production
vehicle, it's a concept vehicle.
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It's a way for governor
Schwarzenegger to have a property
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at various events that ge
goes to when he unveils
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a new hydrogen refuelling station.
At LAX for example.
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I am going to encourage the
building of a hydrogen highway
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to take us to the
environmental future.
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While hydrogen fuel cells offered an exciting
alternative sometime in the future
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what would happen to
the technology of today?
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What would happen to the electric car?
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It all came down to a decisive meeting
at California's Air Resources Board.
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Citizens and industry alike
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testified as CARB prepared to
vote on the fate of the electric car.
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I'd also like to thank
all the other stakeholders,
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particularly also,
the auto industry
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who is going to have a major impact here.
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I like the fact that
hydrogen might be in a position
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to displace the petroleum products.
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I share your optimism on fuel cells,
just not to the extent.
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I think it's a bait and switch
strategy. I hope I'm wrong.
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00:27:26,211 --> 00:27:31,410
I'm concerned that we've picked numbers
that are based entirely on fuel cells.
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What if fuel cells don't work?
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It seems that most of the
recent changes to the mandate
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have been designed to ease
the burden on the automakers.
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You're part of the
environmental protection agency,
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not the corporate profit protection agency.
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I think that we've been a
contributor to this marketplace to...
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I agree. But remember
there are many of you.
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We're not giving more time
to the auto manufacturers.
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Lou Browning had the job
to present the report,
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and he'd been promised ten minutes.
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- One of the things we've found is...
- Dr Browning,
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I would appreciate if you could
summarize this in three minutes.
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00:28:09,621 --> 00:28:11,589
Okay, I thought I had ten, but...
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Alan Lloyd cut him off,
whereas he had given the automakers
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unlimited time earlier in the day.
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The improvements we need in
fuel cells are mainly to get the cost down.
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In addition, we have recently certified and
introduced the Honda FCX fuel cell vehicle.
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Largely this work has been pushed forward
through the California Fuel Cell Partnership
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which has been very valuable in
pulling together the diverse interests.
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Any new information on
batteries that didn't mesh
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with overall conclusions was just
shut out very fast by Alan Lloyd.
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00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:48,921
Let's get it clear. I'm not trying
to show any bias or anything here.
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There were 80 people who came
to speak for electric cars,
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and only two industry representatives
on the side to kill the mandate.
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We have four people out of 78
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who are supporting this proposal.
463
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How did we end up with this?
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This is a tough, tough program.
It's a revolutionary program.
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It pushes the automakers hard.
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And they don't like it,
and they push back hard.
467
00:29:15,553 --> 00:29:18,522
As you deliberate today
on the fate of this program,
468
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:23,427
I urge you to summon
all of your political courage
469
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:27,124
to make the hard choices that you
know you need to make on this program.
470
00:29:27,198 --> 00:29:31,032
Because when it comes to protecting
the health of the people of California,
471
00:29:31,102 --> 00:29:33,935
there are simply no more
easy choices to make.
472
00:29:55,493 --> 00:29:57,757
I saw this as losing
a wonderful opportunity
473
00:29:57,829 --> 00:30:02,596
that we have really invested a great
deal in the infrastructure, in the technology...
474
00:30:03,101 --> 00:30:04,534
It was like the rug was pulled out.
475
00:30:04,602 --> 00:30:08,504
They gave it away.
And to me that is just sad.
476
00:30:09,007 --> 00:30:13,000
It's a sad commentary on
the way our society
477
00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:16,171
and our system in the United States works.
478
00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:18,612
When GM introduced the EV1,
479
00:30:18,683 --> 00:30:22,119
California was setting the toughest auto
pollution standards in the nation.
480
00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:27,452
10% of all cars sold here this year
were to be zero emission vehicles.
481
00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:31,796
But California dropped those standards
after being sued by automakers.
482
00:30:31,796 --> 00:30:35,630
A lot of the vehicles, the Honda vehicles,
the General Motors vehicles,
483
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,827
were all leased, and
nobody had the option to buy.
484
00:30:38,903 --> 00:30:43,704
So the automakers took advantage of
that and pulled all the cars off the road.
485
00:30:43,775 --> 00:30:46,505
They weren't willing to
let people take the cars
486
00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:49,376
and actually drive them and
keep driving them like normal cars.
487
00:30:49,447 --> 00:30:52,541
When I noticed that GM was losing interest
488
00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:56,951
was when I wanted to re-lease
my car, and they wouldn't let me.
489
00:30:57,021 --> 00:31:00,855
I've never had a product
I've had to beg and fight
490
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,023
and cajole and persist so much to get.
491
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,732
And then I had to try and beg and fight
492
00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:13,532
and find any way
possible to try and keep.
493
00:31:13,671 --> 00:31:16,834
- They didn't give you the option...
- They didn't give you an option to buy.
494
00:31:16,908 --> 00:31:20,571
They said: "Thank you for leasing the car.
Goodbye. That's it."
495
00:31:20,645 --> 00:31:23,546
"Turn it in by such and such a date,
or you're going to be held liable."
496
00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:29,019
GM had very quietly gone about taking
cars back, without anybody saying very much
497
00:31:29,087 --> 00:31:30,577
other than some of the drivers
498
00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:32,646
that complained
having their cars taken away
499
00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:34,624
but never in a big, organized fashion.
500
00:31:34,692 --> 00:31:36,489
They had no choice but to turn them in
501
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:41,021
or face legal consequences of stealing a car.
502
00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:45,168
To my knowledge all the cars were
turned in because people had too much to lose.
503
00:31:45,236 --> 00:31:49,297
To this day, the automakers
have fought anyone understanding
504
00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:51,968
how much demand there was,
and how much demand that there is.
505
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:54,807
So we decided we were going to fight them
506
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:58,574
in whatever way we could,
and we became organized.
507
00:31:58,983 --> 00:32:03,420
Across California drivers held
protests to save electric cars.
508
00:32:03,488 --> 00:32:06,423
"...it turned my head around
about electric cars."
509
00:32:06,491 --> 00:32:09,187
"And it broke me of my addiction to oil. "
510
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:37,547
Unable to change policy,
511
00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:41,319
activists staged a funeral
to raise public awareness.
512
00:32:41,926 --> 00:32:45,885
It was the same month as
the first stage 1 smog alert
513
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,933
in southern California in five years.
514
00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:54,535
I was an EV1 driver, still am, from
1998 until December of this year,
515
00:32:55,173 --> 00:32:59,273
when GM will have to pry it
out of my charger's dead cold hands.
516
00:33:00,445 --> 00:33:03,744
What the detractors and the critics of
electric vehicles have been saying for years
517
00:33:04,249 --> 00:33:08,646
is true. The electric vehicle
is not for everybody.
518
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,721
Given the limited range, it can only meet
the needs of 90% of the population.
519
00:33:18,596 --> 00:33:20,655
People used to ask me:
"Why do you do what you do?"
520
00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:23,530
And I say, especially
after my son had told them:
521
00:33:23,735 --> 00:33:25,862
"I figure if I do my job well enough,
522
00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:29,805
"my son will never know a time before
there were electric cars on the road."
523
00:33:29,974 --> 00:33:33,876
And he rode in an EV1 on the
way over here, and he said:
524
00:33:33,945 --> 00:33:36,846
"I wish we could keep the EV1 for a long time."
525
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:39,074
And all I could say was: "Me too."
526
00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:50,385
By the summer of 2004,
527
00:33:50,461 --> 00:33:55,398
there was only a single EV1 left in
private hands in southern California.
528
00:33:55,466 --> 00:33:58,492
Today is D-day. Today is the end.
529
00:33:59,404 --> 00:34:02,734
GM did do it right.
They did create a great, great car.
530
00:34:02,807 --> 00:34:06,971
It's well engineered, it's well designed,
and it's enjoyable to drive.
531
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:12,449
I've never seen a company be so
canniballistic about its own product before.
532
00:34:13,317 --> 00:34:15,945
It's such an odd experience.
533
00:34:32,036 --> 00:34:33,526
What makes that car go?
534
00:34:34,038 --> 00:34:38,202
- We press this button.
535
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:41,108
It's an electric car like daddy's.
536
00:34:43,147 --> 00:34:45,081
Hey, you got here just in time.
537
00:34:45,149 --> 00:34:47,481
I know. I see that.
538
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:49,484
It's so sad.
539
00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:55,323
This is the EV specialist I was talking
about, who gave me her car.
540
00:34:55,393 --> 00:34:58,294
It's really sad, heartbroken.
Are you kidding me?
541
00:34:58,463 --> 00:35:00,988
They are my babies, every one of them.
542
00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:12,202
A lot of human potential just drove off.
543
00:35:13,010 --> 00:35:15,444
- The fight continues.
- It does.
544
00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:29,552
With no more electric cars on the road,
545
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:33,893
General Motors now had
possession of their entire EV1 fleet.
546
00:35:34,532 --> 00:35:36,329
Pourquoi vouloir toutes les r�cup�rer ?
547
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,834
Why did they want them back?
What were they going to do with these cars?
548
00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:42,964
We have discovered 78 EV1's
parked in the back parking lot
549
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,339
of a facility that GM owns in Burbank.
550
00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:50,678
Taking off the cars that were
on the road, that were running fine...
551
00:35:50,748 --> 00:35:54,184
Just let those people drive those
cars until they can't drive them anymore.
552
00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:03,319
- Where are you guys from?
- We're members of the EV1 club,
553
00:36:03,394 --> 00:36:06,261
and we want to come
and take a look at our cars.
554
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:08,298
I know they are being mothballed here.
555
00:36:08,366 --> 00:36:12,063
I have no authorization for you guys to
come back there and look at the cars.
556
00:36:12,136 --> 00:36:14,434
- Can we just go and...
- No.
557
00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:17,702
There were no clues as to
where the cars were going,
558
00:36:17,775 --> 00:36:20,471
until a rumor surfaced on the Internet.
559
00:36:21,712 --> 00:36:25,079
We had the understanding,
through back channels
560
00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:29,415
that these vehicles were about to be
taken to the Arizona proving grounds.
561
00:36:29,487 --> 00:36:33,014
Many EV1's had apparently
been trucked out of state
562
00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:36,958
to GM's vast proving
grounds in Mesa, Arizona.
563
00:36:37,028 --> 00:36:40,395
...so large, it has the track denoted on it...
564
00:36:40,665 --> 00:36:43,190
The location was off-limits to the public,
565
00:36:43,267 --> 00:36:46,759
and there was no way of knowing
where the EV1's might be.
566
00:36:54,178 --> 00:36:55,668
We're flying over GM.
567
00:37:03,721 --> 00:37:05,279
There they are.
568
00:37:06,424 --> 00:37:07,789
Wow.
569
00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:13,757
We flew over General Motors,
570
00:37:13,831 --> 00:37:17,528
and looking down, we could see,
right next to the racetrack
571
00:37:17,602 --> 00:37:20,935
where the EV1 was
first tested, we saw
572
00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:23,803
I don't know, maybe 50 EV1's crushed
573
00:37:23,874 --> 00:37:27,776
and put on top of semi-flatbeds,
right next to the yellow crusher.
574
00:37:29,113 --> 00:37:31,809
General Motors is
almost finished off i think.
575
00:37:32,284 --> 00:37:36,451
I imagine there isn't many EV1's
left that haven't been crushed out.
576
00:37:36,954 --> 00:37:38,478
It's pretty sad.
577
00:37:44,862 --> 00:37:47,626
There are one of four
things that will happen with the EV1's.
578
00:37:47,698 --> 00:37:50,633
They'll go to colleges and
universities, to engineering schools.
579
00:37:50,701 --> 00:37:53,761
They'll go to museums and
other displays across the country.
580
00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:57,137
Other EV1 vehicles are
being driven by our engineers.
581
00:37:57,208 --> 00:38:00,666
And the other option for the EV1's
at the end of their life is recycling.
582
00:38:00,745 --> 00:38:04,306
But know that ever part of
the EV1 is going to be recycled,
583
00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:07,749
dismantled through a third party and then
reused. Everything is going to be recycled.
584
00:38:07,818 --> 00:38:10,787
We're not just going to go crush
it and then send it off to a landfill.
585
00:38:17,595 --> 00:38:20,655
When I saw the picture
of the pile of pressed cars,
586
00:38:20,731 --> 00:38:24,895
it hurt. I thought it
was pretty spiteful.
587
00:38:25,703 --> 00:38:30,367
To see on the computer,
on the Internet,
588
00:38:30,508 --> 00:38:33,534
the crushed EV1's that GM did...
589
00:38:34,111 --> 00:38:37,274
- It was wrong.
- Tragic. That was tragic.
590
00:38:37,348 --> 00:38:41,045
But more wrong is the reasons for it.
591
00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:45,919
"What do we do now?"
592
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:48,686
At the time that most of this
was going on, no one had any idea
593
00:38:48,759 --> 00:38:51,193
that every automaker
was going to jump ship.
594
00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:55,399
More internet tips
revealed that the EV1's
595
00:38:55,466 --> 00:38:58,731
were not the only
electric vehicles in jeopardy.
596
00:38:58,903 --> 00:39:01,770
A number of Ford Th!nks
and Ranger electric trucks
597
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:06,333
were discovered in Palm Springs,
and rumored to be set for destruction.
598
00:39:07,712 --> 00:39:12,649
In Los Angeles, activists spotted
a truckload of Toyota RAV4 EV's.
599
00:39:12,983 --> 00:39:16,714
Fearing the destination was
a crushing facility, they chased it.
600
00:39:16,787 --> 00:39:19,085
The next morning the truck turned back.
601
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:24,024
That guy was going as fast as he
possibly could in a big transporter like that,
602
00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:26,026
trying to lose us, it was clear.
603
00:39:26,330 --> 00:39:30,289
but wasn't able to do it and, of
course, that did change Toyota's plans.
604
00:39:30,634 --> 00:39:34,331
It was so inconsistent,
they didn't know what the hell to do.
605
00:39:36,073 --> 00:39:40,442
Then he goes to the end of the pier,
and these two big security guards come out,
606
00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:42,646
they open this locked gate,
607
00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:46,843
the truck goes inside, and then the
security guards come out and survey us.
608
00:39:47,985 --> 00:39:50,783
Somehow we ended up
at this god forsaken place.
609
00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:51,913
She has everything.
610
00:39:51,989 --> 00:39:55,891
It has spewing smoke into the
harbor that kids have to breathe.
611
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,452
It has an oil well, and it has
Toyota, which is supposed
612
00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:03,489
to be the greenest car company,
but which is simultaneously crushing
613
00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:07,503
and hiding the fact that they're
crushing, clean RAV4 EV's,
614
00:40:07,571 --> 00:40:10,404
instead of selling
them to willing customers.
615
00:40:10,775 --> 00:40:15,144
No one had seen Honda's electric car
since they were taken from customers.
616
00:40:15,813 --> 00:40:19,647
Then, an episode of
"California's Green" aired on PBS.
617
00:40:20,818 --> 00:40:24,584
So we're going to be able
to see cars shredded today.
618
00:40:24,655 --> 00:40:25,679
Absolutely.
619
00:40:25,756 --> 00:40:28,122
Which is not something
most of us get to see.
620
00:40:28,192 --> 00:40:32,424
We shred the car, about a car a minute,
1000 cars a day on a good day.
621
00:40:32,496 --> 00:40:36,899
And what's interesting, the first thing
we noticed when we drove up here,
622
00:40:37,001 --> 00:40:39,629
you're going to be shredding
some new cars, too.
623
00:40:39,703 --> 00:40:43,764
These look like perfectly good cars.
Why are you shredding them up?
624
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:47,208
A little bit of a mystery really,
since I've been here last eight years.
625
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:49,803
They bring us these cars
from the dealerships,
626
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,541
and they say that they're test cars.
627
00:40:51,615 --> 00:40:54,379
And they've been brought
over to test various emissions
628
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,477
and the insurance
companies won't reinsure them
629
00:40:56,554 --> 00:40:58,454
so they have to watch
them destroyed here.
630
00:40:58,522 --> 00:41:03,289
Boy, that seems like a shame. I'd like
to drive off in one of these things.
631
00:41:04,728 --> 00:41:09,529
Ladies and gentlemen, that's the
sound of a crushed automobile
632
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,831
being shredded into a million pieces.
633
00:41:26,884 --> 00:41:29,614
There's no precedent for a
car company rounding up
634
00:41:29,687 --> 00:41:31,518
every one of a particular kind of car
635
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:34,353
and crushing them, as if they're
afraid one might get away.
636
00:41:35,125 --> 00:41:37,025
I think they wanted to be sure
637
00:41:37,094 --> 00:41:39,824
that none of them were driving
around the streets any more
638
00:41:39,897 --> 00:41:44,095
to remind people that there
is such a thing as an electric car.
639
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:46,294
People keep making
all these analogies,
640
00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:49,999
"Crushing the EV is a
betrayal of the American dream."
641
00:41:50,074 --> 00:41:52,167
But it's not a dream.
It's here now!
642
00:41:52,243 --> 00:41:56,976
It may be a betrayal of my dream,
but it's a betrayal of the American reality.
643
00:41:57,748 --> 00:42:01,184
After the discovery of the
crushed EV1's in Arizona,
644
00:42:01,252 --> 00:42:03,584
electric car drivers took action.
645
00:42:03,654 --> 00:42:06,817
They vowed to keep watch
over the remaining EV1's
646
00:42:06,891 --> 00:42:10,122
being stored at the GM
facility in Burbank.
647
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:13,186
There are about 70 cars left in California.
648
00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:17,963
They're in the parking lot behind me,
and they have plans to crush those as well.
649
00:42:18,502 --> 00:42:24,668
And we need to make a call to action
on General Motors to give them back.
650
00:42:24,808 --> 00:42:26,969
We ended up rallying enough troops
651
00:42:27,044 --> 00:42:29,945
in terms of interest and
organizations to join our coalition
652
00:42:30,014 --> 00:42:34,849
and then we simply didn't leave,
and stayed 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
653
00:42:34,919 --> 00:42:39,982
It's 6 A.M., and I've been here
for an hour, part of a vigil.
654
00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:44,387
We're making sure that GM doesn't
sneak out their cars in the back lot.
655
00:42:45,262 --> 00:42:48,254
The first two weeks we
were pretty much ignored.
656
00:42:48,332 --> 00:42:49,765
It was like monsoon rains,
657
00:42:49,833 --> 00:42:52,427
it was kind of depressing
to be out there,
658
00:42:52,503 --> 00:42:54,767
but at the same time there
was such a sense of mission.
659
00:42:54,838 --> 00:42:58,001
I was here this morning
from about 5:45 A.M.,
660
00:42:58,108 --> 00:43:00,702
and it's pretty quiet.
661
00:43:02,546 --> 00:43:06,107
Finally, on day 15, we did this
announcement of this offer.
662
00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:10,549
As the EV activists recorded the
VIN numbers of the cars in storage,
663
00:43:10,754 --> 00:43:14,952
Chelsea led a last ditch
effort to buy the cars from GM.
664
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:18,795
"Okay, General Motors contends
that no one wants these EV1's here."
665
00:43:18,862 --> 00:43:22,127
"Would anybody be willing to buy them
for the residual price of the lease?"
666
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,828
And within 48 hours,
over 80 people had signed up.
667
00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:27,733
There were only 78 cars in that lot,
668
00:43:27,805 --> 00:43:31,172
and already we had a waiting list
for a car that wasn't available.
669
00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:33,505
It was a tremendous d�j� vu moment.
670
00:43:33,577 --> 00:43:37,274
At this point we thought
it would be appropriate
671
00:43:37,348 --> 00:43:41,182
to some full circle.
Join me in holding this check
672
00:43:41,251 --> 00:43:45,085
offering 1.9 million
dollars to General Motors
673
00:43:45,155 --> 00:43:47,984
to put these cars back on the road.
674
00:43:51,195 --> 00:43:54,221
Despite the offer,
GM did not respond.
675
00:43:55,399 --> 00:43:59,130
The fate of the last
78 EV1's remained in doubt
676
00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:03,338
A small group of activists
would continue their vigil,
677
00:44:03,407 --> 00:44:05,967
to keep the dream
of the electric car alive.
678
00:44:08,846 --> 00:44:10,541
Who controls the future?
679
00:44:13,384 --> 00:44:17,946
Whoever has the biggest club.
In more ways than one.
680
00:44:18,922 --> 00:44:20,913
One they can bash you with,
and one they can belong to.
681
00:44:22,026 --> 00:44:24,685
Gentlemen! Gentlemen!
682
00:44:25,896 --> 00:44:28,956
I know you're all worried,
and I agree.
683
00:44:29,733 --> 00:44:34,363
There's plenty to be worried about.
Like this solar power plant
684
00:44:35,205 --> 00:44:37,696
already operational
outside Los Angeles.
685
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:40,372
Photovoltaic cells,
686
00:44:40,611 --> 00:44:43,910
they converts sunlight
directly into electricity.
687
00:44:44,748 --> 00:44:48,809
Fluorescent, lasts ten times as
long as a conventional light bulb.
688
00:44:48,886 --> 00:44:50,979
uses only a quarter of the power.
689
00:44:51,321 --> 00:44:55,758
Superwindows, insulate as
well as ten sheets of glass.
690
00:44:56,193 --> 00:45:00,254
An electric car, partially
powered by solar panels.
691
00:45:01,298 --> 00:45:04,233
But the truth is, gentlemen,
692
00:45:04,334 --> 00:45:07,963
I'm not worried about
any of these things.
693
00:45:08,605 --> 00:45:12,200
Because no one is ever
going to know about them.
694
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:18,148
There's all these conspiracy theories
out there about who killed the electric car.
695
00:45:18,215 --> 00:45:20,513
So really, who killed the electric car?
696
00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:23,243
Unfortunately, I can't
summarize that in one sentence.
697
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,515
What killed the electric vehicle,
698
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:27,819
very simply, I think,
is lack of corporate wisdom.
699
00:45:27,925 --> 00:45:30,723
In my opinion it's big oil
that killed the electric car.
700
00:45:30,794 --> 00:45:33,854
Alan Lloyd killed the electric car project.
I was there when he did it.
701
00:45:33,964 --> 00:45:37,092
The California Air Resources Board
killed the electric car
702
00:45:37,167 --> 00:45:40,603
under huge pressure
from the auto companies.
703
00:45:40,671 --> 00:45:42,798
They were an accessory
to the murder,
704
00:45:42,873 --> 00:45:45,603
but the murder was commited
by the General Motors.
705
00:45:45,809 --> 00:45:47,743
I don't believe that for a minute.
706
00:45:48,245 --> 00:45:54,411
GM would sell you a
car on pig shit if it sold.
707
00:46:00,491 --> 00:46:04,860
Carmakers argue that there was not
enough demand for the electric car.
708
00:46:04,928 --> 00:46:08,091
Claiming to have spent millions
of dollars on advertising,
709
00:46:08,165 --> 00:46:10,360
they said buyers weren't interested.
710
00:46:10,467 --> 00:46:13,868
But did consumers even know
that the car existed?
711
00:46:13,937 --> 00:46:16,872
Did you ever see this
car advertised?
712
00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:20,706
Never. That's what I'm trying to say.
It's totally under the scope of the radar.
713
00:46:20,878 --> 00:46:23,403
I don't know who drives
an EV1 actually.
714
00:46:23,647 --> 00:46:25,137
- You don't know anybody?
- Anybody.
715
00:46:25,382 --> 00:46:28,783
Maybe Fernando. I know Fernando...
Did you ever drive an EV1?
716
00:46:29,086 --> 00:46:31,350
- I've heard of them.
- He's heard of them.
717
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:34,015
They're not making these
cars in California anymore?
718
00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:35,888
No. They're not
making them anywhere.
719
00:46:35,959 --> 00:46:38,154
That's really too bad.
We need those cars.
720
00:46:38,328 --> 00:46:40,455
Why are they getting rid of it?
721
00:46:42,065 --> 00:46:44,932
They said that there was
no demand for the car.
722
00:46:45,002 --> 00:46:46,367
Are they insane?
723
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:48,262
That's a no-brainer.
Of course there's a demand.
724
00:46:48,338 --> 00:46:51,637
Save gas, save people, save air,
save oxygen, save the world.
725
00:46:51,708 --> 00:46:53,300
All sounds good to me.
726
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,604
We've been selling
vehicles for a century,
727
00:46:58,715 --> 00:47:02,310
and as you might imagine,
we've figured out what people wanted.
728
00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:05,480
If you ask them, they say:
"I want a 300 mile range."
729
00:47:05,556 --> 00:47:08,889
"I want to be able
to go 85 or 90 mph
730
00:47:08,959 --> 00:47:12,122
"I want to carry four passengers
and have a big trunk. "
731
00:47:12,629 --> 00:47:15,359
Which is basically
what we were already selling.
732
00:47:15,432 --> 00:47:17,059
I've said this
time and time again.
733
00:47:17,134 --> 00:47:19,329
People will buy anthing
you convince them to buy.
734
00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:24,873
Feed people enough, and
they believe that's a diet.
735
00:47:25,976 --> 00:47:28,376
Consumers, they
couldn't see the difference
736
00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:30,675
between electric car and
the car they're already driving
737
00:47:30,747 --> 00:47:33,238
because they don't
read environmental impact.
738
00:47:33,884 --> 00:47:36,318
They don't read political instability
caused by oil production
739
00:47:36,386 --> 00:47:37,410
in the Middle East.
740
00:47:37,487 --> 00:47:41,082
All they read is does this car
work and how much does it cost.
741
00:47:42,492 --> 00:47:45,325
What really killed EV's,
is American consumers
742
00:47:45,395 --> 00:47:49,058
because they did not accept this
idea, did not embrace it,
743
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:53,131
that vehicles could have
these limited ranges
744
00:47:53,203 --> 00:47:55,603
and still be functional,
useful, practical.
745
00:48:01,912 --> 00:48:05,541
Did the electric car die
because of the battery technology ?
746
00:48:05,616 --> 00:48:08,346
Did EV's really not
have enough range?
747
00:48:08,418 --> 00:48:11,751
Did car companies use
the best batteries available?
748
00:48:11,822 --> 00:48:15,781
Battery technology at that
time was lead accid batteries
749
00:48:15,859 --> 00:48:18,521
and allowed the car to go 60 miles.
750
00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:23,053
If you started out on a trip knowing
that you were going to go dead in 60 miles,
751
00:48:23,367 --> 00:48:25,358
you'd be nervous about
making the trip.
752
00:48:26,503 --> 00:48:29,529
People think that they need
a car that will go 300 miles
753
00:48:29,606 --> 00:48:32,905
and be able to charge it up
or refuel it in five minutes.
754
00:48:33,143 --> 00:48:37,835
For virtually 90-95% of your driving,
you really don't need that.
755
00:48:38,148 --> 00:48:41,049
You need a vehicle that will go
at least 60 miles or so,
756
00:48:41,118 --> 00:48:44,110
and that way your daily
commute is covered.
757
00:48:44,187 --> 00:48:48,647
For those who wanted greater
range from an EV, a 100 miles or more
758
00:48:48,725 --> 00:48:50,989
a better battery already existed.
759
00:48:51,061 --> 00:48:54,394
Developed by a well known
inventor working in Troy, Michigan,
760
00:48:54,464 --> 00:48:57,058
about 30 miles from
General Motors headquarters.
761
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,102
- I'm Stan and...
- And lris Ovshinsky.
762
00:49:01,972 --> 00:49:03,234
I think you shouldn't do that.
763
00:49:03,307 --> 00:49:06,242
You should say you're Stan Ovshinsky,
and I'll say I'm Iris Ovshinsky.
764
00:49:06,310 --> 00:49:07,902
Don't do that. It's funny.
765
00:49:07,978 --> 00:49:13,177
With over 200 patents to his name,
Stan Ovshinsky had pioneered a new battery
766
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:16,276
and GM purchased
controlling share of his company.
767
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,786
We were chosen over
60 different big companies,
768
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,619
like Westinghouse and others,
769
00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:26,889
who wanted to win the
race to make the batteries
770
00:49:27,264 --> 00:49:30,859
that would be used in pure electric cars.
771
00:49:31,368 --> 00:49:34,337
And we were chosen
because we had a battery.
772
00:49:34,938 --> 00:49:39,272
And to us,
putting it into a car
773
00:49:39,343 --> 00:49:42,005
was not the most
gigantic thing.
774
00:49:42,212 --> 00:49:43,941
What were we supposed to do?
775
00:49:44,014 --> 00:49:46,141
But you did expect
champagne and roses.
776
00:49:46,216 --> 00:49:48,241
I expected
champagne and roses.
777
00:49:48,919 --> 00:49:53,083
When I said that we were going to
put a paragraph into a newspaper,
778
00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:54,817
that said we had achieved this,
779
00:49:54,891 --> 00:49:58,554
I really expected
congratulations to flow in.
780
00:49:58,929 --> 00:50:02,888
And then I knew that something was
different when the opposite happened.
781
00:50:02,966 --> 00:50:07,630
Ovshinsky was censored for publicizing
his battery advances without permission
782
00:50:08,772 --> 00:50:12,139
and asked not to run
advertising in national publications.
783
00:50:12,909 --> 00:50:15,810
The EV1 debuted
with a weaker battery.
784
00:50:16,046 --> 00:50:18,844
It would be another 2 years
before Ovshinsky's batteries
785
00:50:18,915 --> 00:50:20,678
were installed in the EV1.
786
00:50:22,219 --> 00:50:25,848
The first version of the EV1
had defective Delco batteries,
787
00:50:25,922 --> 00:50:27,116
and they kept failing.
788
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:29,681
That was GM's failure,
on those batteries.
789
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,354
Once they put good batteries in,
they didn't have any problems.
790
00:50:32,462 --> 00:50:36,125
Ultimately, GM sold its
share in Ovshinsky's company
791
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:37,894
to an unlikely buyer.
792
00:50:38,168 --> 00:50:40,602
Then, when the Ni-MH
batteries were improved,
793
00:50:40,670 --> 00:50:45,403
so that they're now lasting longer than
the life of the car and cheaper than an engine,
794
00:50:46,076 --> 00:50:51,173
Chevron Texaco stepped in and
purchased control from General Motors
795
00:50:51,248 --> 00:50:53,145
of Ovshinsky technology.
796
00:50:54,117 --> 00:50:56,950
The oil companies do not feel
threatened by battery technology,
797
00:50:58,121 --> 00:50:59,918
because they
effectively crushed it.
798
00:50:59,990 --> 00:51:02,185
The electric car is an
interesting case study.
799
00:51:02,259 --> 00:51:05,293
It was such an abysmal failure,
800
00:51:05,629 --> 00:51:08,325
that there are a lot of people
involved in the initial decision making
801
00:51:08,398 --> 00:51:11,458
that are pointing fingers
at whose responsibility it is.
802
00:51:21,878 --> 00:51:26,611
To Basrah and all of Iraq comes good
news with the opening of a new oil field.
803
00:51:26,683 --> 00:51:30,710
The pipeline runs across the
desert to the Persian Gulf at Al Faw.
804
00:51:31,488 --> 00:51:35,720
There, tankers load up with the
precious fuel the world needs so badly.
805
00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:40,521
Yes, it's a big day for Iraq,
and there's a feast to celebrate.
806
00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:44,059
Sheep stuffed with rice
and host of other good things.
807
00:51:44,601 --> 00:51:49,265
But that's only the first of the good
things that will come to Iraq, thanks to oil.
808
00:51:51,641 --> 00:51:54,474
Oil companies have rarely
shied away from global issues.
809
00:51:54,544 --> 00:51:58,002
But why did they lobby so
hard to build a public opposition
810
00:51:58,081 --> 00:52:00,106
to the electric car in California?
811
00:52:00,183 --> 00:52:02,777
I find it difficult to rationalize
812
00:52:04,688 --> 00:52:07,384
why the oil industry got so
intimately involved in this.
813
00:52:07,457 --> 00:52:10,824
Other than maybe
they saw it as a threat
814
00:52:10,894 --> 00:52:15,297
to the monopoly they had on
providing the transportation fuel.
815
00:52:15,432 --> 00:52:19,499
There's no question that the oil companies
who control the market today
816
00:52:20,804 --> 00:52:23,898
have a strong incentive
to discourage alternatives,
817
00:52:24,474 --> 00:52:27,500
except the alternatives
that they themselves control.
818
00:52:27,644 --> 00:52:30,704
Just as General Motors,
819
00:52:32,082 --> 00:52:35,779
40 or 50 years ago, bought up
the trolley systems and shut them down,
820
00:52:35,852 --> 00:52:41,415
the oil companies have opposed
the creation of an electric infrastructure.
821
00:52:43,326 --> 00:52:46,784
I differ strongly with that.
We did not kill the electric car.
822
00:52:46,863 --> 00:52:48,626
The petroleum industry
did not kill the electric car.
823
00:52:48,698 --> 00:52:51,758
What killed the electric car
was antiquated technology.
824
00:52:52,202 --> 00:52:55,501
It's a good example of
something we should not repeat,
825
00:52:55,572 --> 00:52:57,437
an example we need to avoid.
826
00:53:00,977 --> 00:53:05,209
There's still roughly a trillion barrels
worth of oil in the Earth's crust.
827
00:53:05,582 --> 00:53:10,485
And if you figure that the average price
of that subsequent oil will be 100 $ a barrel,
828
00:53:10,554 --> 00:53:14,251
that's a 100 trillion dollars
worth of business yet to be done.
829
00:53:16,293 --> 00:53:20,320
However, at some point when
an alternative is good enough,
830
00:53:20,397 --> 00:53:25,130
people will snap over, and that's
what the oil companies fear the most.
831
00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:28,966
We use 180 million gallons
of gasoline a week in California.
832
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:33,840
Right now, the price is 2,20 $.
A year ago, it was 1,20 $.
833
00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:35,910
There's a dollar more a gallon.
834
00:53:35,979 --> 00:53:40,177
Somebody's making 180
million dollars more a week.
835
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:43,651
It's the same gas, the same
pipeline, the same refinery.
836
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,585
The profits are outstanding.
837
00:53:53,764 --> 00:53:56,359
What the oil companies feared,
838
00:53:56,433 --> 00:54:01,166
is that electric vehicles would
become successful six years from now.
839
00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,468
What the automobile
companies feared,
840
00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:06,634
was that they'd be losing money
on electric vehicles in the next six months.
841
00:54:13,083 --> 00:54:17,611
Even as car companies made electric
cars, they fought them at every step.
842
00:54:17,887 --> 00:54:19,320
What was their motive?
843
00:54:19,389 --> 00:54:22,483
Why were they so determined
to take them off the road?
844
00:54:22,926 --> 00:54:24,894
I think in the beginning,
845
00:54:24,961 --> 00:54:27,327
General Motors didn't believe
the car would catch on.
846
00:54:27,397 --> 00:54:29,922
I don't think they'd thought
they'd ever have to worry about
847
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,902
something like a conspiracy to keep it
from happening. They hated the mandate.
848
00:54:33,970 --> 00:54:36,632
They hated it so much that they
ended up not really wanting
849
00:54:36,706 --> 00:54:38,139
to be in the business of EV's.
850
00:54:38,208 --> 00:54:42,975
What I detected was a huge
resentment about being told
851
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,639
what type of motor
vehicle had to be made.
852
00:54:45,715 --> 00:54:50,243
And it became a fight of
principle rather than one of trying
853
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,221
to technologically
solve the problem.
854
00:54:53,556 --> 00:54:57,925
I do know that I was surprised
at some of the stances they took
855
00:54:57,994 --> 00:55:00,656
in Sacramento in arguing.
856
00:55:03,166 --> 00:55:04,724
End of comment.
857
00:55:06,569 --> 00:55:09,732
In a confidential 1995 memo
858
00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:13,242
the American Automobile
Manufacturers Association
859
00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:16,973
sought to hire a PR firm
to manage a so-called
860
00:55:17,047 --> 00:55:19,880
"grassroots and educational campaign"
861
00:55:20,083 --> 00:55:22,916
to create a climate
to repeal the mandate.
862
00:55:23,286 --> 00:55:25,481
The challenge,
according to the document,
863
00:55:25,555 --> 00:55:29,116
was "greater consumer
acceptance of electric vehicles."
864
00:55:29,859 --> 00:55:34,626
Why would the car companies campaign
so hard against their own creation?
865
00:55:34,898 --> 00:55:38,299
I made the case at the
General Motors board,
866
00:55:39,269 --> 00:55:43,399
that the reason for the EV1
was to give General Motors
867
00:55:43,473 --> 00:55:48,274
a very big head start
in how you transform electricity
868
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:50,870
into the drive power of a car.
869
00:55:50,947 --> 00:55:54,212
And we give them two or three years lead,
870
00:55:54,284 --> 00:55:56,582
and in my judgement it did.
871
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:00,156
But my frustration was
they didn't capitalize on the lead.
872
00:56:00,357 --> 00:56:03,417
And the reason, which
was discussed with the board,
873
00:56:03,626 --> 00:56:08,359
was that there was not a
profit seemed to be coming out
874
00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:11,056
of either electric cars or hybrids.
875
00:56:11,301 --> 00:56:15,795
They could not understand how
Toyota could possibly make a profit
876
00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:19,638
out of the Prius, for example.
They were gonna lose their shirt.
877
00:56:20,176 --> 00:56:25,010
And as evidence have shown,
I don't think Toyota is losing their shirt.
878
00:56:25,882 --> 00:56:28,578
If loss of revenue
worried car companies
879
00:56:28,718 --> 00:56:32,347
than the electric car posed
another problem altogether:
880
00:56:32,422 --> 00:56:37,359
it had no internal combustion engine,
the cornerstone of the auto industry.
881
00:56:38,094 --> 00:56:40,494
These parts represent a large
part of a dealership's income,
882
00:56:41,631 --> 00:56:44,632
through the replacement
and the maintenance.
883
00:56:44,734 --> 00:56:48,602
Esentially, this group of parts
is a visual representation
884
00:56:48,671 --> 00:56:52,163
of the profits the auto industry
doesn't make when they sell an EV1,
885
00:56:52,242 --> 00:56:53,732
or an EV in general.
886
00:56:53,810 --> 00:56:58,076
I can actually identify a lot of these
that didn't get used on the EV1 program.
887
00:56:58,148 --> 00:57:00,116
Oil filters you need
four times a year.
888
00:57:00,183 --> 00:57:01,480
It was the most prominent thing,
889
00:57:01,551 --> 00:57:04,281
along with several
quarts of oil every time.
890
00:57:04,487 --> 00:57:07,115
I didn't enjoy working on the
internal combustion engines,
891
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:09,055
just due to the fact
you got so dirty.
892
00:57:09,125 --> 00:57:12,788
And working on the EV1, I
basically go home looking like this.
893
00:57:13,997 --> 00:57:17,398
Servicing the EV1 was pretty simple.
894
00:57:17,467 --> 00:57:20,561
It came in about every 5000 miles.
895
00:57:20,637 --> 00:57:26,473
We'd rotate the tires, add washer fluid
to it, and send it back out on the street.
896
00:57:27,744 --> 00:57:31,510
It's amazing. Look how dirty
I've gotten just handling this stuff.
897
00:57:31,915 --> 00:57:33,041
It's kind of sad.
898
00:57:33,116 --> 00:57:35,141
In order to sincerely
market a clean car,
899
00:57:35,218 --> 00:57:38,312
you have to suggest
that your core product is dirty,
900
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:40,753
that it uses oil, that it uses gas,
901
00:57:40,824 --> 00:57:43,384
and that increases our
dependance on foreign oil.
902
00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,757
And here's this
product that doesn't.
903
00:57:45,028 --> 00:57:48,293
It looks very schizophrenic,
but I think, when it started...
904
00:57:48,364 --> 00:57:50,730
"We can show the people in California
905
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,566
we can meet the zero
emission requirements."
906
00:57:54,771 --> 00:57:57,968
And later on: "Do we
want to show them?"
907
00:57:58,041 --> 00:57:59,668
"That means, all of
our other cars..."
908
00:57:59,909 --> 00:58:02,776
But the more it caught on, the more
that there was this dichotomy
909
00:58:02,846 --> 00:58:08,216
between clean and efficient and
non-polluting versus a Suburban.
910
00:58:09,052 --> 00:58:11,213
Car companies
had convinced themselves
911
00:58:11,287 --> 00:58:15,018
that they couldn't make money
in the short term with the electric car.
912
00:58:15,091 --> 00:58:19,289
In order to do that, they would
need an entirely different vehicle.
913
00:58:19,796 --> 00:58:22,856
General Motors made a
commitment to the Hummer,
914
00:58:23,066 --> 00:58:26,194
because they could see that
the Hummer would make them money.
915
00:58:29,606 --> 00:58:32,666
When SUV's first came out,
people said: "I can't drive that."
916
00:58:32,742 --> 00:58:34,801
- "That big old truck?"
- Especially for the ladies.
917
00:58:34,878 --> 00:58:36,903
- "I can't see out of there."
- "I'm going to murder somebody in that."
918
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:39,676
- "That's too big."
- "That's too big for me."
919
00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:42,912
- But they convinced people. "This is safer."
- "You need this car."
920
00:58:42,986 --> 00:58:44,920
- "You need a big car."
- "This is a safe car."
921
00:58:44,988 --> 00:58:46,546
- "You need this for your family."
- "Bigger, safer."
922
00:58:46,623 --> 00:58:52,687
The idea of a penny-pinching EV1
that was super-green,
923
00:58:52,762 --> 00:58:54,195
that didn't get a lot attraction.
924
00:58:54,264 --> 00:58:57,722
Whereas the idea of a gigantic SUV
925
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,065
that would crush your neighbor,
that did get a lot attraction.
926
00:59:01,137 --> 00:59:03,970
Basically, that tells us
what the 90's was about.
927
00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:11,080
What began as a 25 000 $ tax
break, grew to a 100 000 $
928
00:59:11,247 --> 00:59:15,445
when Congress passed the President's
economic stimulus package last spring.
929
00:59:15,585 --> 00:59:18,350
We think small businesses need
to have support at this time
930
00:59:18,621 --> 00:59:20,987
to keep them afloat, to
keep the economy moving ahead.
931
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:23,684
But there's an encouragement
for the small business person,
932
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,389
not just to stay afloat, but to go
the biggest gas guzzler there is.
933
00:59:27,463 --> 00:59:31,593
The 6,000-pound car, the biggest.
Does that make sense?
934
00:59:31,801 --> 00:59:35,635
I don't think we can dictate
what vehicles people buy.
935
00:59:35,705 --> 00:59:37,673
- The goal here is...
- This is encouraging them!
936
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:40,334
You can almost buy the
whole car for the tax break.
937
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:42,970
I'm not going to concede
938
00:59:43,046 --> 00:59:45,606
that that would be the
way that this would be used...
939
00:59:45,682 --> 00:59:47,513
There is some evidence that
is how they are being used.
940
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:49,711
I don't know. We'll have
to wait and see what happens.
941
01:00:29,025 --> 01:00:32,586
I don't want to see Hummers driven
off the market by the government.
942
01:00:33,029 --> 01:00:37,363
I want to see everything given
a level, equal chance.
943
01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:41,460
The thing that bothers me is that
it's not a level, equal chance.
944
01:00:41,537 --> 01:00:44,370
We're using our military
to ensure the flow of oil.
945
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,433
We're using tax dollars to support
the car companies in different ways,
946
01:00:48,511 --> 01:00:53,107
and we're not using our tax money to do
the things that we really need to do
947
01:00:53,182 --> 01:00:54,450
to prepare for the future.
948
01:01:01,257 --> 01:01:05,785
Federal policy has always had
tremendous power to shape the future.
949
01:01:06,262 --> 01:01:09,629
As it gave enormous
incentives to buy SUV's
950
01:01:09,699 --> 01:01:14,398
the federal government also sued
California to stop the electric car.
951
01:01:15,071 --> 01:01:19,363
Some pointed to the influence
of the oil and auto industries.
952
01:01:20,343 --> 01:01:24,007
They control things in Washington,
they and the automobile industry.
953
01:01:25,381 --> 01:01:27,042
Now they've got Andy Card there,
954
01:01:27,116 --> 01:01:31,143
former lobbyist, as chief
of staff in the White House.
955
01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:34,189
I guess they don't have to
pay the lobbyists anymore.
956
01:01:34,257 --> 01:01:36,088
So they're saving a little money there.
957
01:01:36,292 --> 01:01:38,351
Andrew Card was chief of staff
958
01:01:38,428 --> 01:01:42,023
when the Bush administration
joined the suit against California.
959
01:01:42,331 --> 01:01:45,129
Card had also been
president and C.E.O.
960
01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:48,762
of the American Automobile
Manufacturers Association
961
01:01:48,838 --> 01:01:53,036
during its campaign to kill
California's electric car mandate.
962
01:01:53,509 --> 01:01:57,946
Industries began to see if we
don't kill this cancer in California,
963
01:01:58,014 --> 01:02:00,005
it's going to spread to
the rest of the country.
964
01:02:00,083 --> 01:02:04,349
I think it became a strategy
on the part of many companies
965
01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:06,650
to make it a national issue.
966
01:02:06,756 --> 01:02:09,350
I was even told once by a very
prominent congressman
967
01:02:09,425 --> 01:02:11,222
who I shall not mention
by name, that
968
01:02:11,294 --> 01:02:16,095
"I could understand and tolerate
what you're doing in California,
969
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:19,965
"but if you ever try to spread
your California program"
970
01:02:20,036 --> 01:02:23,631
"to the rest of my country,
I'm going to have to do battle with you."
971
01:02:24,807 --> 01:02:28,140
Sometimes, I listen
to the energy debate
972
01:02:28,211 --> 01:02:33,148
and I think I'm watching an old
movie that was made back in the 70's.
973
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:40,050
Because the discussion is exactly
the same as it was 30 years ago.
974
01:02:40,423 --> 01:02:43,483
Our average vehicle,
average car on the road,
975
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,084
is less efficient than
it was 20 years ago.
976
01:02:46,329 --> 01:02:48,661
And this is just a complete
abdication of leadership.
977
01:02:48,731 --> 01:02:50,596
Political leadership, really.
978
01:02:50,967 --> 01:02:55,802
Because it's impossible to get fuel economy
standards passed through the U.S. Congress.
979
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,476
After the OPEC
oil embargo in the 1970's,
980
01:03:01,544 --> 01:03:05,344
the U.S. government created
Corporate Average Fuel Economy
981
01:03:05,414 --> 01:03:10,082
or CAFE standards, to improve
fuel economy in American vehicles.
982
01:03:10,486 --> 01:03:16,789
As a result, in less than 10 years, fuel
economy increased by more than 50 percent.
983
01:03:17,059 --> 01:03:21,496
Unfortunately, two decades later,
there has been virtually no change.
984
01:03:21,564 --> 01:03:23,759
Jimmy Carter was the last president
985
01:03:23,833 --> 01:03:28,395
that really made
energy a high priority.
986
01:03:28,471 --> 01:03:33,306
He devoted his first 90 days in office
to put together an energy plan.
987
01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:35,607
I was there as part of it.
988
01:03:35,845 --> 01:03:39,337
No president since then
has put that kind of effort into it.
989
01:03:39,682 --> 01:03:45,051
I am tonight setting a clear goal for
the energy policy of the United States.
990
01:03:45,621 --> 01:03:49,682
Beginning this moment, this
nation will never use
991
01:03:49,759 --> 01:03:55,254
more foreign oil than
we did in 1977. Never.
992
01:04:04,006 --> 01:04:08,204
There was a radical change
when Ronald Reagan came in
993
01:04:08,277 --> 01:04:12,976
and took down the solar panels off the
White House roof that Jimmy had put up,
994
01:04:13,049 --> 01:04:16,109
and esentially, declared
war on the sun.
995
01:04:16,185 --> 01:04:20,184
I've put a freeze on pending
regulations and set up a task force
996
01:04:20,623 --> 01:04:23,649
under vice president Bush
to review regulations
997
01:04:23,726 --> 01:04:26,422
with an eye toward getting
rid of as many as possible.
998
01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:30,496
I have de-controlled oil, which should
result in more domestic production
999
01:04:30,566 --> 01:04:32,693
and less dependance
on foreign oil.
1000
01:04:32,768 --> 01:04:36,295
When Reagan came in, he was not
a supporter of fuel economy,
1001
01:04:36,372 --> 01:04:38,738
of conservation,
of renewables.
1002
01:04:38,975 --> 01:04:42,843
In the mid 1980's, he basically
stopped any improvement
1003
01:04:42,912 --> 01:04:45,244
in fuel economy
standards for cars.
1004
01:04:45,448 --> 01:04:48,110
And then, in 1985,
the prices of oil collapsed.
1005
01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:52,814
I would not lay all of the blame
at Ronald Reagan's feet, by any means.
1006
01:04:53,956 --> 01:04:57,517
I think he had his share of
responsibility, but so did the Saudis,
1007
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,218
who made a very
calculating decision,
1008
01:05:01,797 --> 01:05:04,231
to drop the price
of oil dramatically,
1009
01:05:04,934 --> 01:05:08,836
principally to ensure that
none of these alternative fuels
1010
01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:16,069
and energy saving measures
really produced the desired results.
1011
01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:21,376
So they kept the junkie
hooked up, in other words.
1012
01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:26,979
And as a result, we are
today still addicted to oil.
1013
01:05:28,858 --> 01:05:31,156
When Clinton came in,
and I worked for Clinton,
1014
01:05:31,227 --> 01:05:35,891
we were definitely quite interested
in trying to come up with alternatives
1015
01:05:35,965 --> 01:05:37,990
and improve the fuel
economy of the fleet.
1016
01:05:38,067 --> 01:05:40,968
Politically, it was still very unattractive.
1017
01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:43,504
The automobile lobby
was quite powerful then,
1018
01:05:43,572 --> 01:05:47,440
so the administration kind of made
a bargain with the automobile companies,
1019
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:50,172
this partnership for
new generation of vehicles
1020
01:05:50,246 --> 01:05:52,237
where we would develop
hybrid vehicles,
1021
01:05:52,315 --> 01:05:55,614
a combination of a gasoline
engine and an electric drive train.
1022
01:05:55,718 --> 01:05:59,154
In return, we wouldn't really
pursue fuel economy standards.
1023
01:05:59,822 --> 01:06:02,154
I've never met a five year
old kid like this in my life.
1024
01:06:02,224 --> 01:06:05,193
He said: "I'm glad
to meet you, Mr. President."
1025
01:06:05,261 --> 01:06:08,856
"I want you to make a car that runs
on electricity and doesn't pollute the air."
1026
01:06:10,266 --> 01:06:12,393
I was so impressed,
I went to get Al Gore
1027
01:06:12,468 --> 01:06:14,197
and I introduced him
to this five year old boy,
1028
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:18,969
and he said: "Hello, Mr. vice pr�sident.
I intend to spend my life working on this."
1029
01:06:19,041 --> 01:06:22,010
"I am going to help you
develop an electric car"
1030
01:06:22,078 --> 01:06:23,773
"that has no pollution."
1031
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,311
Al Gore says: "That means
we're going to be partners."
1032
01:06:27,383 --> 01:06:28,941
He said: "Yes, I guess so."
1033
01:06:29,018 --> 01:06:32,078
"But you don't understand. I'm
going to spend my whole life on this."
1034
01:06:36,425 --> 01:06:40,657
For 8-9 years, we've spent about
a billion dollars of taxpayers' money
1035
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:42,527
to develop hybrid vehicles.
1036
01:06:43,132 --> 01:06:48,160
Ironically, the U.S. car companies
didn't put any hybrids on the road.
1037
01:06:48,237 --> 01:06:50,899
In fact, the minute George Bush
got elected president,
1038
01:06:50,973 --> 01:06:53,533
the U.S. car companies
walked away from hybrids.
1039
01:06:53,609 --> 01:06:55,941
But, and this is the irony,
1040
01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:59,379
the U.S. program got the
Japanese very nervous.
1041
01:06:59,448 --> 01:07:03,885
So Toyota and Honda, in
response, developed hybrids,
1042
01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:06,214
because they didn't
want to be beaten by the U.S.
1043
01:07:12,795 --> 01:07:16,162
Now, they lure people into
thinking they're doing something
1044
01:07:16,232 --> 01:07:18,393
but they sweet-talk.
1045
01:07:18,467 --> 01:07:21,927
I remember way back we
used to have this joke,
1046
01:07:22,171 --> 01:07:24,002
but it's not a joke anymore.
1047
01:07:24,073 --> 01:07:27,531
We're giving the environmentalists
the music and the industry the action.
1048
01:07:27,610 --> 01:07:30,738
The second step toward making
America less dependant on foreign oil
1049
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:33,805
is to produce and refine
more crude oil here at home
1050
01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:36,477
in environmentally
sensitive ways.
1051
01:07:37,953 --> 01:07:40,217
By far the most promising
site for oil in America
1052
01:07:40,289 --> 01:07:43,622
is the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge in Alaska.
1053
01:07:49,398 --> 01:07:53,528
While it is predicted that
the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
1054
01:07:53,602 --> 01:07:58,232
could supply America with slightly
more than one year's supply of oil,
1055
01:07:58,607 --> 01:08:03,067
simply raising fuel economy
standards to 40 miles per gallon
1056
01:08:03,145 --> 01:08:07,172
could save the same
amount of fuel within 15 years.
1057
01:08:15,324 --> 01:08:19,260
The oil industry and
the automobile companies
1058
01:08:19,328 --> 01:08:20,989
are resistant to change.
1059
01:08:21,063 --> 01:08:25,898
The American people need to be reminded
that it took a law to get seatbelts in the cars.
1060
01:08:26,068 --> 01:08:28,502
It took a law to get airbags in the cars.
1061
01:08:28,571 --> 01:08:32,871
It took a law to get the mileage up
from 12 to 20 miles per gallon.
1062
01:08:32,942 --> 01:08:36,605
It took a law to get catalytic
converters to control the pollution.
1063
01:08:37,012 --> 01:08:40,971
I think clean cars are too important
to be left to the automobile industry.
1064
01:08:48,491 --> 01:08:52,985
The California mandate forced
automakers to make electric cars.
1065
01:08:53,195 --> 01:08:56,722
When California changed it,
the cars vanished.
1066
01:08:57,333 --> 01:09:01,736
Why did California retreat
from the bold law it created?
1067
01:09:02,204 --> 01:09:05,037
Having visited all the car
companies, they were saying:
1068
01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:09,107
"Look, we can't produce
these increasing numbers of the
1069
01:09:09,178 --> 01:09:11,146
battery electric vehicles."
1070
01:09:11,213 --> 01:09:13,408
And I became convinced that...
1071
01:09:14,083 --> 01:09:17,416
What are we supposed to do here?
Is our job to clean the air?
1072
01:09:17,486 --> 01:09:22,583
Or is it to force a certain number of a
type of technology out on the road?
1073
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:27,695
Alan Lloyd failed in his
leadership to really steer
1074
01:09:27,763 --> 01:09:31,597
the zero emission vehicle mandate
toward a successful outcome.
1075
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:33,134
Oh, I know Alec very well.
1076
01:09:33,202 --> 01:09:35,693
I know Alec very well. And we had some...
1077
01:09:35,771 --> 01:09:39,229
heartfelt memos come back.
1078
01:09:39,308 --> 01:09:42,835
And it pained me, because I
have the utmost respect for Alec.
1079
01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:47,707
And it pained me to be accused
1080
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:50,910
of basically abanding
the battery electrics.
1081
01:09:51,253 --> 01:09:55,053
In addition to his role as
chairman of the Air Resources Board,
1082
01:09:55,191 --> 01:09:57,557
Alan Lloyd had another position.
1083
01:09:57,626 --> 01:10:01,494
Just four months before the
meeting that killed the electric car,
1084
01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:06,290
Lloyd accepted the chairmanship
of the California Fuel Cell Partnership.
1085
01:10:07,636 --> 01:10:09,797
I've been involved with
hydrogen since the early 90's.
1086
01:10:09,872 --> 01:10:14,332
When I became chair of ARB ten years
later, I knew a lot about hydrogen.
1087
01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:18,640
So for me, I'm very much
fact-technology driven.
1088
01:10:18,781 --> 01:10:22,512
Maybe you can say that's an asset
or a handicap in the terms of hydrogen
1089
01:10:22,585 --> 01:10:25,315
because I knew what could be done.
1090
01:10:34,096 --> 01:10:36,690
Excuse me while I watch
my baby get off here.
1091
01:10:36,765 --> 01:10:38,995
Carmakers convinced California
1092
01:10:39,068 --> 01:10:43,927
that the facts supported the
development of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
1093
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,936
Were they a better
option than electric cars?
1094
01:10:47,543 --> 01:10:51,604
Toyota's national manager of
advanced technologies, Bill Reinert,
1095
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:56,208
took their prototype hydrogen
fuel cell SUV on a press tour.
1096
01:10:56,485 --> 01:11:01,184
One of our customers didn't really like this
car anywhere nearly as much as the EV1.
1097
01:11:02,458 --> 01:11:06,485
And the reason was not because it
would have anything bad about the car,
1098
01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:08,189
the reason was because his EV1,
1099
01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:10,892
he could charge it at home,
charge it at work,
1100
01:11:10,966 --> 01:11:13,867
and even though it provided limited range,
1101
01:11:13,936 --> 01:11:17,133
he didn't have to worry about
getting his car charged up.
1102
01:11:17,206 --> 01:11:20,903
With this car, with a limited access
to a hydrogen filling station,
1103
01:11:20,976 --> 01:11:23,877
he said he'd spend his whole day
planning how to get hydrogen
1104
01:11:23,946 --> 01:11:24,970
in the car and how to get back.
1105
01:11:25,047 --> 01:11:26,742
It's growing humbly.
1106
01:11:26,815 --> 01:11:29,249
The more you know, the more you realize
1107
01:11:29,318 --> 01:11:33,015
you really don't know what
issues are going to be put forward.
1108
01:11:33,222 --> 01:11:34,883
The number one worst question is:
1109
01:11:34,957 --> 01:11:37,585
"When can...
When will that be on the market?"
1110
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,727
When will that be on the market?
That's the worst question.
1111
01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:44,091
Consumers are probably
going to want to know
1112
01:11:44,166 --> 01:11:46,760
how long it would be for
this to be mass produced.
1113
01:11:46,835 --> 01:11:48,234
That's quite a ways off.
1114
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:51,432
We've got some real technical issues
we've got to solve, with hydrogen storage
1115
01:11:51,507 --> 01:11:53,441
with durability,
with cost reduction.
1116
01:11:53,509 --> 01:11:55,977
Is it a practical solution at this point?
1117
01:11:56,078 --> 01:11:57,841
The cars have a limited range,
1118
01:11:57,913 --> 01:12:02,407
the durability of the car isn't very good...
Let me see, what else?
1119
01:12:02,484 --> 01:12:04,509
They don't do well in cold weather.
1120
01:12:04,586 --> 01:12:06,520
Other than that, they're great.
1121
01:12:06,955 --> 01:12:08,445
Have you ever been to a dog race?
1122
01:12:08,524 --> 01:12:11,357
There's the mechanical
rabbit that's out in front
1123
01:12:11,427 --> 01:12:13,486
and the dogs never quite reach it.
1124
01:12:13,562 --> 01:12:18,158
Well, the fuel cell is the equivalent
of that mechanical rabbit.
1125
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:19,324
We're going for it.
1126
01:12:19,401 --> 01:12:24,464
For the last 15 years they've been telling
us the fuel cells are 10 to 15 years off.
1127
01:12:25,874 --> 01:12:26,863
You're an oil company.
1128
01:12:26,942 --> 01:12:29,100
Your business is to be selling a fuel.
1129
01:12:29,712 --> 01:12:32,146
They think that it's a long time off, 30 years,
1130
01:12:32,414 --> 01:12:34,075
and they want to have a product that sells.
1131
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:36,242
From that point,
they're protecting themselves
1132
01:12:36,318 --> 01:12:39,617
but the other side is that
they're protecting the status quo.
1133
00:12:39,989 --> 01:12:42,618
We see in Scientific American
1134
01:12:42,691 --> 01:12:46,388
a double page ad by
General Motors and Shell both
1135
01:12:46,462 --> 01:12:48,896
touting both the fuel cell
that General Motors is doing
1136
01:12:48,964 --> 01:12:51,865
and also Shell as a potential
supplier of hydrogen.
1137
01:12:55,304 --> 01:12:59,866
If hydrogen can do a better job
as an energy carrier than electricity,
1138
01:13:00,042 --> 01:13:03,808
then by gosh, it should
be the carrier of choice.
1139
01:13:04,613 --> 01:13:06,808
The problem is, it's not even close.
1140
01:13:06,882 --> 01:13:09,510
How far would this car ride
on environmental fuel?
1141
01:13:09,585 --> 01:13:14,522
It's approximately about a 100-125 miles.
1142
01:13:14,757 --> 01:13:17,590
Good. Interesting.
1143
01:13:17,826 --> 01:13:21,853
A fuel cell car powered by
hydrogen made with electricity
1144
01:13:21,930 --> 01:13:26,697
uses three to four times more
energy than a car powered by batteries.
1145
01:13:27,603 --> 01:13:30,333
This is the beginning of a fantastic technology,
1146
01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:32,897
and thanks for having us out here.
1147
01:13:32,975 --> 01:13:35,205
We're going to look at
some other vehicles in a minute,
1148
01:13:35,277 --> 01:13:39,407
but, hydrogen is the way of the future.
1149
01:13:39,515 --> 01:13:42,916
Today, there's a lot of
enthusiasm for hydrogen cars
1150
01:13:43,185 --> 01:13:46,120
but, I wrote the whole book
"The Hype About Hydrogen".
1151
01:13:46,523 --> 01:13:51,115
I think it's pretty clear that hydrogen
is a much tougher alternative fuel
1152
01:13:51,193 --> 01:13:53,957
than any other alternative
fuel we've ever pursued.
1153
01:13:54,029 --> 01:13:55,997
These are the five miracles that you need
1154
01:13:56,064 --> 01:13:57,793
for a successful hydrogen
car in the marketplace.
1155
01:13:58,334 --> 01:14:01,829
First, your average hydrogen
car costs a million dollars.
1156
01:14:02,104 --> 01:14:03,230
That's got to drop.
1157
01:14:04,673 --> 01:14:09,337
Second, no known material to humankind
can store enough hydrogen onboard the car
1158
01:14:09,411 --> 01:14:10,901
to give you the range people want.
1159
01:14:11,281 --> 01:14:15,348
Miracle number three.
The fuel is wildly expensive.
1160
01:14:15,417 --> 01:14:20,377
Even hydrogen from dirty fossil fuels
is 2 or 3 times more expensive than gasoline.
1161
01:14:20,757 --> 01:14:24,191
Fourth, you have to have
the fueling infrastructure.
1162
01:14:24,259 --> 01:14:26,523
We have a 180 000 gas stations.
1163
01:14:26,595 --> 01:14:30,258
Someone's going to have to build at least
10 or 20 thousand hydrogen fueling stations
1164
01:14:30,332 --> 01:14:32,926
before anybody is going to be very interested.
1165
01:14:33,269 --> 01:14:35,627
Miracle five is - you have to hope and pray
1166
01:14:35,704 --> 01:14:39,196
that the competitors in the
marketplace don't get any better.
1167
01:14:39,274 --> 01:14:44,143
Because right now, the best car in
the marketplace just got a lot better,
1168
01:14:44,213 --> 01:14:45,237
the hybrid vehicle.
1169
01:14:45,581 --> 01:14:47,905
Still runs on gasoline,
you can fuel it everywhere,
1170
01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:49,678
it has twice the range of a regular car.
1171
01:14:49,886 --> 01:14:52,615
Current hybrid vehicles
depend on gasoline,
1172
01:14:53,755 --> 01:14:57,213
but use an electric motor
to increase their fuel economy.
1173
01:14:57,292 --> 01:15:01,355
And if battery technology
keeps getting steadily better,
1174
01:15:02,097 --> 01:15:06,397
than the best hybrid, and then
plug-in hybrid in the year 2020
1175
01:15:06,468 --> 01:15:10,234
will be vastly superior
to the best hydrogen car.
1176
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,007
You guys have filmed me long enought to know
1177
01:15:15,077 --> 01:15:18,240
that I'm not going to
dance around the issue.
1178
01:15:18,313 --> 01:15:21,771
And these could be a
long ways out into the future.
1179
01:15:24,319 --> 01:15:27,117
Toyota says: "Fuel cell
cars, 30 years away."
1180
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:30,386
Then I get the calls from the Department
of Energy and the State of California:
1181
01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:31,721
"What the hell are you doing?"
1182
01:15:31,793 --> 01:15:34,091
And all the other fuel cell manufacturers:
1183
01:15:34,162 --> 01:15:37,893
"We're trying to make a living here..."
1184
01:15:37,966 --> 01:15:39,228
It's awful.
1185
01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:43,338
Just because a lot of people
want it to work, it's no guarantee.
1186
01:15:43,405 --> 01:15:46,272
That's Disneyland, you know -
wishing makes it come true.
1187
01:15:46,341 --> 01:15:48,434
I don't work in Disneyland.
1188
01:15:48,777 --> 01:15:51,439
I work in the real world, where
wishing doesn't make it come true
1189
01:15:51,513 --> 01:15:55,449
and you really have to work hard
to make it come true. Hopefully we do.
1190
01:16:02,691 --> 01:16:07,685
On the 27th day of their vigil,
activists finally heard from GM.
1191
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:21,271
Paul Scott called: "Are you guys busy?
They're hauling in the cars right now."
1192
01:16:21,343 --> 01:16:23,903
"GM is loading the cars
on trucks right now!"
1193
01:16:23,979 --> 01:16:24,968
"What, what?"
1194
01:16:25,047 --> 01:16:28,210
"Yeah, we'll drop everything
and run on out there right now."
1195
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:37,016
They've loaded them up,
1196
01:16:37,092 --> 01:16:40,152
tires screeching, and panels
cracking against each other
1197
01:16:40,228 --> 01:16:42,389
as they shoved them onto the tracks.
1198
01:16:47,302 --> 01:16:49,532
We're up against most
of the money in the world.
1199
01:16:49,605 --> 01:16:52,904
We're up against the oil industry,
the automobile industry.
1200
01:16:53,308 --> 01:16:57,836
It's David versus Goliath
in a very big way
1201
01:16:58,614 --> 01:17:02,277
but if there are enough
Davids in the world, we can win.
1202
01:17:09,725 --> 01:17:12,057
GM, shame on you!
1203
01:17:15,063 --> 01:17:18,931
General Motors is taking the EV1's out of here,
1204
01:17:19,434 --> 01:17:20,765
destroying them,
1205
01:17:20,836 --> 01:17:22,997
doing the work of the oil companies.
1206
01:17:24,339 --> 01:17:27,672
We're going to ask you guys just
to give us some grass area
1207
01:17:27,743 --> 01:17:29,734
If you could just get out
of the driveway for us
1208
01:17:29,811 --> 01:17:32,939
so we don't have to put
cuffs on anybody. Thank you.
1209
01:17:57,239 --> 01:17:59,070
Don't crush the EV1.
1210
01:18:14,623 --> 01:18:20,755
On March 15th, 2005,
the last EV1's in the Burbank lot
1211
01:18:20,829 --> 01:18:22,990
were taken away and destroyed.
1212
01:19:29,399 --> 01:19:32,262
- Alright, come on in.
- Cool.
1213
01:19:32,334 --> 01:19:34,928
We'll go down to the vault
and I'll show you the car.
1214
01:19:36,471 --> 01:19:37,870
I miss this little car.
1215
01:19:37,939 --> 01:19:40,373
Yeah. We love having it.
1216
01:19:40,442 --> 01:19:43,570
We have a number of electric
vehicles in the collection, and the hybrids,
1217
01:19:43,645 --> 01:19:45,977
but we're especially happy about this.
1218
01:19:47,315 --> 01:19:49,340
This is a special one.
1219
01:19:49,951 --> 01:19:52,784
- There she is.
- My baby!
1220
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,252
Number 99.
1221
01:20:00,929 --> 01:20:03,762
- You might recognize this car.
- I do. It was Chris's car.
1222
01:20:03,832 --> 01:20:04,924
Sure was.
1223
01:20:07,469 --> 01:20:08,697
Please, have a seat.
1224
01:20:08,770 --> 01:20:11,500
There's only one challenge,
it doesn't start up.
1225
01:20:12,874 --> 01:20:15,866
You know that General Motors disabled them.
1226
01:20:15,944 --> 01:20:18,208
- I know.
- We wish they didn't, but they had to.
1227
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,441
So we understand that.
We're just happy to have it.
1228
01:20:20,515 --> 01:20:21,504
Yeah.
1229
01:20:21,783 --> 01:20:24,115
That is such an important
part of automotive history.
1230
01:20:24,186 --> 01:20:25,653
- It is...
- To have a manufacturer like
1231
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,780
General Motors participate
in this program. It's wonderful.
1232
01:20:28,857 --> 01:20:32,088
The thing is, it shouldn't be
a part of automotive history.
1233
01:20:48,944 --> 01:20:52,045
Ever since 1939, they
would dangle this electric car.
1234
01:20:52,581 --> 01:20:54,014
They'd have a few models out there.
1235
01:20:54,082 --> 01:20:56,573
They'd say that's something
in another few years.
1236
01:20:56,651 --> 01:20:59,484
And it never came. Because
they never intended it to come.
1237
01:20:59,554 --> 01:21:02,682
They make too much money
with the technological stagnation
1238
01:21:02,757 --> 01:21:04,315
in the internal combustion engine.
1239
01:21:08,296 --> 01:21:12,699
If somethin becomes scarce, then there's
economic pressures to find alternatives.
1240
01:21:12,801 --> 01:21:15,269
And as long as no alternatives exist,
1241
01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:18,999
the scarce item can become
increasingly profitable.
1242
01:21:23,311 --> 01:21:25,506
These are the same batteries that
are used in your laptop computer.
1243
01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:28,174
We have 6800 cells.
1244
01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:30,912
And it can go 300 miles on one charge,
1245
01:21:31,219 --> 01:21:33,210
running along at 70 mph.
1246
01:21:33,388 --> 01:21:35,879
It's now 0-60 in 3.6 seconds.
1247
01:21:36,958 --> 01:21:40,257
It's an amazing performance for
any car, not just an electric car.
1248
01:21:40,328 --> 01:21:41,886
Those same batteries could be put in EV1
1249
01:21:41,963 --> 01:21:44,591
and make it a 300-mile-range car very easily.
1250
01:21:45,166 --> 01:21:48,226
It's a shame seeing these cars destroyed
when you could upgrade them.
1251
01:21:51,273 --> 01:21:53,503
I know what I did and why I did it.
1252
01:21:53,808 --> 01:21:57,039
And if I had to do the same
thing again based on the data,
1253
01:21:57,178 --> 01:21:58,577
and I've seen what has happened to date,
1254
01:21:58,647 --> 01:22:00,615
I would do exactly the same thing.
1255
01:22:03,952 --> 01:22:06,284
When we talk about sensible energy policy
1256
01:22:06,354 --> 01:22:09,517
most people hear is: "You're going
to make me drive a small car,
1257
01:22:09,591 --> 01:22:11,354
"you're going to make
me keep my house cold,
1258
01:22:11,426 --> 01:22:13,519
"and essentially, you're going
to make me live like a European."
1259
01:22:18,266 --> 01:22:20,097
It's a lack of leadership.
1260
01:22:20,402 --> 01:22:23,929
It's a lack of being able
to take on the oil industry,
1261
01:22:24,139 --> 01:22:26,198
and the automobile industry,
1262
01:22:26,274 --> 01:22:28,606
and recognize that they are not Uncle Sam.
1263
01:22:28,677 --> 01:22:30,838
Uncle Sam has to be Uncle Sam,
1264
01:22:30,946 --> 01:22:33,506
and Uncle Sam is acting
like they're General Motors.
1265
01:22:37,218 --> 01:22:39,948
They're squandering
huge amounts of money
1266
01:22:40,021 --> 01:22:43,650
on hydrogen cars, which,
by any reasonable estimate,
1267
01:22:43,725 --> 01:22:46,091
are not going to be
selling in the consumer market
1268
01:22:46,161 --> 01:22:48,493
for two decades at the earliest.
1269
01:22:48,596 --> 01:22:51,531
I think it will go down as
one of the biggest blunders
1270
01:22:51,599 --> 01:22:54,067
in the history of the automotive industry.
1271
01:22:58,406 --> 01:23:01,898
Have you never heard that expression:
"Death by a million cuts"?
1272
01:23:01,977 --> 01:23:05,242
Little tiny cuts, eventually
someone will bleed to death.
1273
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:13,078
The fight over electric cars was
quite simply, a fight about the future.
1274
01:23:14,155 --> 01:23:18,717
Goliath won this round, but
now Goliath has new problems.
1275
01:23:19,594 --> 01:23:22,028
Oil prices have soared.
1276
01:23:22,097 --> 01:23:25,396
America is further
entangled in the Middle East,
1277
01:23:26,301 --> 01:23:29,566
and global warming is an
increasingly serious threat.
1278
01:23:30,205 --> 01:23:32,969
What can we do to reshape the future?
1279
01:23:33,041 --> 01:23:37,171
This city is replete with famous
names that are no longer here.
1280
01:23:38,346 --> 01:23:41,674
Why? Because they
couldn't adapt to change.
1281
01:23:42,183 --> 01:23:44,045
We all have to adapt to change.
1282
01:23:44,586 --> 01:23:47,954
Don't debate about
who's to blame or what to blame.
1283
01:23:48,223 --> 01:23:49,815
Let's build new industries.
1284
01:23:49,891 --> 01:23:52,257
Let's make America strong again.
1285
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,690
Chelsea continues her work with
a new group called Plug In America,
1286
01:23:56,898 --> 01:23:59,196
working with citizens
across the political spectrum
1287
01:23:59,267 --> 01:24:02,202
to promote an independant energy future.
1288
01:24:02,804 --> 01:24:05,830
I met Jim Woolsey at an
event, and as it turns out
1289
01:24:05,907 --> 01:24:08,239
he was already a bit of a fan
of stuff that we were doing,
1290
01:24:08,309 --> 01:24:10,539
and he's come to work
with Plug In America.
1291
01:24:10,612 --> 01:24:14,275
That's one example of the types
of relationships that have to exist
1292
01:24:14,349 --> 01:24:16,544
in order to further what we all want.
1293
01:24:16,852 --> 01:24:21,913
I've served in four administrations,
with presidential appointments,
1294
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:25,187
all in different aspects
of national security.
1295
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:28,093
And the fact that two thirds of
the world's proven reserves of oil
1296
01:24:28,163 --> 01:24:31,564
are in the Middle East, and that we're
so dependant on that part of our world,
1297
01:24:31,633 --> 01:24:34,124
is a very big national security question.
1298
01:24:34,869 --> 01:24:36,268
Behind me there are two things.
1299
01:24:36,337 --> 01:24:39,898
One is a Prius, hybrid
gasoline-electric Toyota,
1300
01:24:40,208 --> 01:24:42,267
and an electrical substation.
1301
01:24:42,343 --> 01:24:44,607
Today, they don't have
much to do with one another,
1302
01:24:44,679 --> 01:24:48,410
but there's a chance that they might be able
to have something to do with one another
1303
01:24:48,483 --> 01:24:49,814
in a positive way.
1304
01:24:49,884 --> 01:24:54,685
And that's where I think that the
plug-in hybrid is the natural next step,
1305
01:24:54,989 --> 01:24:57,219
and that it is avilable to us today.
1306
01:24:57,992 --> 01:25:00,017
This is a plug-in hybrid Prius,
1307
01:25:00,095 --> 01:25:04,156
which is a modification
to a normal Toyota Prius
1308
01:25:04,232 --> 01:25:06,666
that allows you to travel...
1309
01:25:06,734 --> 01:25:10,864
Which gives you up to
150-180 miles per gallon
1310
01:25:10,939 --> 01:25:12,963
for the first 50 to 60 miles of the day.
1311
01:25:13,775 --> 01:25:16,903
We don't need an expensive
charging infrastructure to use this car.
1312
01:25:16,978 --> 01:25:19,242
You can just plug it in
anywhere in your garage.
1313
01:25:19,314 --> 01:25:22,477
So we make the environmentalists
happy because it's cleaner.
1314
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:27,817
We make the neo-conservatives
happy because it uses less gasoline.
1315
01:25:27,889 --> 01:25:30,380
Well, everyone's happy
because it uses less gasoline.
1316
01:25:30,458 --> 01:25:34,451
Plugging in could go a long way to
reducing our dependence on oil.
1317
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:39,095
And generating that electricity
with the wind and the sun
1318
01:25:39,167 --> 01:25:41,727
would create even less pollution.
1319
01:25:42,403 --> 01:25:47,431
With his battery technology in most
hybrid cars, Ovshinsky has also built
1320
01:25:47,509 --> 01:25:50,945
one of the largest thin-film
solar factories in the world.
1321
01:25:51,012 --> 01:25:53,446
This is just an ordinary steel roof.
1322
01:25:55,083 --> 01:25:57,278
And this is with the adhesive.
1323
01:25:57,352 --> 01:26:00,810
You just put the shingles down.
1324
01:26:00,889 --> 01:26:03,255
You're in there. You've
run your wires down.
1325
01:26:03,324 --> 01:26:05,155
Everything is plug-and-play.
1326
01:26:06,094 --> 01:26:09,928
Anybody that wants to make a
revolution shouldn't grab a gun.
1327
01:26:10,231 --> 01:26:13,359
Just go and start
working like we do
1328
01:26:13,434 --> 01:26:16,767
to change the world by
using science and technology.
1329
01:26:19,174 --> 01:26:20,903
I am so optimistic about the future.
1330
01:26:20,975 --> 01:26:24,342
Even given everything that we've
seen, and all of the EV wars,
1331
01:26:24,412 --> 01:26:25,936
I remain an optimist.
1332
01:26:27,115 --> 01:26:29,379
One of the things that makes America work
1333
01:26:29,450 --> 01:26:36,520
is this rampant grassroots
agitation for things that are new.
1334
01:26:37,125 --> 01:26:40,720
When you get a coalition of that size,
and that surprising character,
1335
01:26:40,795 --> 01:26:42,353
you get politicians' attention.
1336
01:26:42,631 --> 01:26:44,759
And here we have a serious problem:
1337
01:26:44,832 --> 01:26:46,891
America is addicted to oil.
1338
01:26:46,968 --> 01:26:50,335
I call all this a potential coalition
between the tree-huggers,
1339
01:26:50,405 --> 01:26:54,136
the do-gooders, the sod-busters,
the cheap-hawks and the evangelicals.
1340
01:26:54,843 --> 01:26:57,743
That's a pretty good-sized coalition.
1341
01:26:57,812 --> 01:27:04,115
We are about to enter into a world that
is truly renewable and completely clean
1342
01:27:04,185 --> 01:27:07,052
if we just had the willpower to implement it.
1343
01:27:07,121 --> 01:27:09,782
You don't have to wait for major
auto companies. You can do it yourself,
1344
01:27:09,924 --> 01:27:11,221
like I'm doing here.
1345
01:27:11,292 --> 01:27:12,691
Old cars, new cars -
doesn't really matter.
1346
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,387
I can convert anything.
1347
01:27:14,596 --> 01:27:15,961
You haven't seen anything yet.
1348
01:27:16,030 --> 01:27:17,897
The future is going to be
very bright in this area,
1349
01:27:18,166 --> 01:27:20,327
and the forces are all
pushing in that direction,
1350
01:27:20,401 --> 01:27:23,462
both the economic
and technological forces.
1351
01:27:23,738 --> 01:27:25,672
Once people see these things,
1352
01:27:25,740 --> 01:27:27,901
they say: "Wow, I want to do this!"
1353
01:27:28,076 --> 01:27:30,067
And so the word is getting out.
1354
01:27:30,712 --> 01:27:33,272
That gives us hope.
1355
01:27:33,915 --> 01:27:39,114
Hope that we can end up our lives
having achieved what we set out to do.
1356
01:27:39,187 --> 01:27:40,279
And we have.
1357
01:27:40,355 --> 01:27:43,119
And you still have so many
years you want to do things.
1358
01:27:43,191 --> 01:27:44,249
I wouldn't have enought time..
1359
01:27:52,776 --> 01:27:55,967
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